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From YouTube: 9-12-22 City Council work session
Description
Des Moines City Council morning work session on Monday, Sept. 12, 2022.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
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D
A
A
You
may
recall
that
that
was
a
40
000
square
foot,
building
roughly
that
was
intended
and
probably
around
a
40
million,
if
not
much
higher,
with
the
construction
costs
these
days
to
fill
that
space
and
replace
the
armory
in
lieu
of
that,
we
are
very
fortunate
that
we
had
this
opportunity
come
to
us
at
1200,
locusts,
so
you'll
hear
more
through
the
video
and
we
have
staff
here
to
help
with
any
questions.
A
Matt
anderson,
our
deputy
city
manager
and
our
facility
staff
are
very
diligent
in
going
through
this
building,
recognizing
it
as
an
opportunity
to
solve
quite
a
few
of
our
facility
needs
and
so
you'll
hear.
At
the
end
of
this,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
engage
with
a
consultant
to
talk
through
all
those
opportunities
to
see
what
makes
sense
over
the
next
several
months.
A
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
matt,
and
I
really
appreciate
staff's
work
on
this
and,
as
you
might
imagine,
nationwide
was
excellent
to
work
with
in
this
in
this
endeavor.
So
we're
cleaning
up
some
other
agreements
we
have
with
nationwide
while
we're
at
it
and
just
feel
really
good
about
bringing
this
opportunity
to
the
council.
D
Thank
you,
scott
mayor
pro
tem
members
of
city
council,
matt,
anderson,
deputy
city
manager,
I'm
here
today
as
the
spokesperson
for
a
great
project
we've
been
working
on
since
the
beginning
of
the
year
with
nationwide
and
as
scott
said
nationwide
has
been
a
great
partner
in
this
I
get
to
be
the
spokesperson,
I'm
not
the
only
person
who's
been
working
on
this.
It's
been
a
big
team
effort,
so
I
want
to
thank
nick
schallen
finance,
jim
hoff
and
ann
in
facilities.
D
If
you
haven't
met
and
you're
going
to
get
to
see
her
a
lot
because
she's
going
to
be
working
on
this
project
for
many
many
months,
if
not
years
so
it's
it's
gonna
take
a
while
al
and
his
team
dev
and
peter
and
david
and
coms
you're
gonna,
see
the
the
great
video
they
put
together
messaging.
This
both
externally
and
internally,
was
really
important
to
us,
and
the
legal
staff,
tom
and
lisa
and
heck
even
jeff
was
pretty
helpful
in
all
this.
So
we
we
appreciate
everything
you
guys
did.
D
It
was
not
easy,
scott,
scott
and
nick,
and
I
get
to
go
cook
up
the
business
terms
and
then
we
hand
it
to
legal
and
say
here
sort
out
our
mess
and
then
they've
done
a
really
nice
job
of
it.
So
I
appreciate
everybody's
patience.
The
video
today
it's
about
four
or
five
minutes
long.
It's
going
to
answer
a
lot
of
the.
Why?
Why
are
we?
Why
are
we
doing
this?
Why?
Why
is
this
important
and
then
afterward
I'm
going
to
take
a
few
minutes
and
kind
of
address
some
of
the
the
who?
D
What
when
questions
that
might
come
up
and
so
we'll
get
those
out
of
the
way?
I
know
you've
got
a
closed
session
later,
so
give
me
about
15
minutes
and
we'll
get
you
to
get
you
on
your
way.
This
is
again
about
a
four
to
five
minute:
video.
D
We've
been
examining
new
office
space
for
both
administrative
offices
and
for
the
police
station
for
a
number
of
years
now,
in
our
capital
improvement
budget,
even
has
money
in
it
in
that
budget
for
an
armory
building
replacement.
This
is
a
great
opportunity
kind
of
a
once
in
a
lifetime
chance
to
kind
of
rewrite
the
physical
space
for
the
for
our
office
staff
police
force.
A
lot.
F
C
D
Buildings
really
weren't
built
for
modern
day
office
use
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
inefficiencies
of
occupying
space
like
that,
and
this
is
a
chance
to
really
modernize
our
entire
operation.
Our
entire
service
delivery
for
the
residents
of
the
city
of
des
moines
really
make
it
easier,
more
effective
and
more
efficient
for
everybody
that
interacts
with
the
city.
If
we
were
to
go
ahead
and
build
that
arm,
rebuilding
replacement
today,
we've
all
heard
about
the
supply
chain
problems.
D
We've
all
heard
about
construction
inflation,
we'd
be
faced
with
that
we'd
be
entering
a
construction
of
a
major
office
building
at
really
about
the
worst
time
possible
on
the
flip
side
for
buying
existing
space,
we're
entering
a
market
at
about
the
best
time
possible
that
plays
perfectly
to
what
we
want
to
do.
We
have
departments
that
really
do
feel
like
they're
out
on
an
island.
Our
housing
department
is
five
miles
north
of
town,
so
is
our
civil
and
human
rights
department.
We've
got
our
hr
department
at
the
municipal
services
center.
It
works.
D
F
D
Rit
department,
headquartered
in
100
year
old
building
that
really
wasn't
designed
for
that
is,
is
certainly
not
best.
Practice.
Policing
has
evolved
tremendously,
but
the
facilities
haven't
same
with
the
rest
of
the
services.
We've
delivered.
We've
been
static
in
our
space,
but
not
in
our
services
and
not
in
our
delivery.
With
this
opportunity
in
front
of
us
today,
the
bang
for
our
buck
that
return
on
investment
is
as
great
as
we're
ever
going
to
get.
D
It
lets
us
accelerate
that
that
that
space
improvement
at
the
100
million
plus
price
tag
that
it
was
going
to
take
to
build
a
new
police
station.
I
don't
think
it
was
going
to
happen
in
my
during
my
career
at
the
city,
but
there's
a
point
where
backed
up
sewers
and
and
leaking
roofs
are
just
not
they're,
not
acceptable
for
a
first-class
city.
The
handicap
accessibility
will
be
tremendously
improved
at
the
new
building,
parking
will
be
improved
at
the
new
building.
We've
got
it
we're
skywalk
connected
to
a
to
a
1600
space
parking
ramp.
D
So
in
inclement
weather
you
don't
have
to
go
out
in
the
snow
you
can
get
on
the
skywalk
and
get
to
the
to
the
new
city
administration.
Building
the
nice
thing
about
the
nationwide
building
1200
locust
is
this
building
is
really
a
it's
a
blank
slate.
It's
big
open
floor
plates.
It's
not
chopped
up,
it's
not
a
lot
of
private
individual
offices,
so
the
ability
for
the
architects
to
come
in
and
have
a
you
know,
really
a
clean
slate
to
start
from
is
going
to
reduce
our
costs,
make
it
faster
to
deliver
that
space
and.
D
Nationwide
will
take
it
off
the
market,
we'll
have
it
we'll
have
a
look
at
it
and
what
we'll
do
during
that
period
is?
We
will
engage
an
architectural
consultant
to
look
at
our
needs.
They'll
look
at
the
head
count
the
square
feet.
The
any
unique
space
needs
that
they
have
and
kind
of
put
together.
That
jigsaw,
puzzle
of
who
should
be
where,
where
do
they
fit,
do
it?
Does
the
building
have
enough
square
feet
to
make
all
that
happen?
D
E
D
Build
an
army
building
replacement
would
be
well
over
30
40
million
dollars.
Here
we've
got
an
opportunity
to
buy
the
square
feet
that
we
need
to
really
put
most
of
our
administrative
operations
under
one
roof
at
a
fraction
of
the
cost
of
what
we
could
build
new
there's
a
nice
opportunity
here
to
have
that
clean
slate
to
start
over
and
say:
okay.
This
is
our
one
shot
right.
I
mean
you've
seen
we
we're
kind
of
here
for
the
long
haul,
so
I
anticipate
we'll
be
in
this
building
for
another
100
years.
D
So
you
have
two
items
on
tonight's
agenda:
the
first
is
an
amendment
to
the
existing
development
agreement
nationwide.
This
is
something
we
would
have
been
bringing
to
you.
Even
if
we
hadn't
been
pursuing
the
purchase
of
1200
locusts,
the
the
current
agreement
as
written
nationwide,
met
their
job
goals
for
the
payment
of
the
future
paid
for
the
payment
of
the
future
incentive
payments.
D
The
if
you
stay
in
one
place
long
enough,
some
of
your
mistakes
will
come
back
to
haunt
you
and
I
worked
on
this
original
2006
deal
and,
for
some
reason,
the
calculation
paragraph
for
computing.
Those
future
payment
streams
is
unnecessarily
complex
and
complicated.
It's
kind
of
like
when
you're
in
school,
the
the
math
problem
where
a
train
leaves
leaves
denver
going
100
miles
an
hour.
Another
leaves
leaves
chicago
going
80
miles
an
hour
where
you
can't
figure
it
out.
It's
really
complex,
so
we
sat
down
with
nationwide,
figured
it
out
together.
D
Nick
and
tom
fisher
and
lisa
were
very
involved
in
that,
and
we
said,
let's
just
get
a
fixed
payment
stream
instead
of
having
to
calculate
it
every
year.
So
that's
really
what
the
amendment
does
tonight
is.
It
just
makes
it
simplifies
that
that
agreement
we
were
going
to
ask
you
to
do
that
anyway,
and
then
the
second,
the
second
action
you're
being
asked
to
take,
is
to
approve
a
purchase
agreement.
It's
a
non-binding
purchase
agreement.
D
We
have
a
nine
month
due
diligence
period
and
as
scott
mentioned,
that's
when
the
next
step
is
jim
and
ann.
Have
an
rfp
prepared
to
go
out
to
seek
architectural
services.
We
need
to
take
a
little
time
and
examine
the
building
with
a
consultant
to
look
at
all
of
our
space
needs.
All
of
our
administrative
needs
and
police
needs
and
see
how
we
fit
in
the
building,
where
you
would
put
people
put
a
rough
timeline
to
that
construction.
Put
a
rough
budget
to
that
construction.
D
That's
what
the
consultant
will
help
us
do
also
during
that
nine
month
period,
nick
and
the
finance
team
and
our
bond
council
will
start
working
with
potential
lease
purchase
partners
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
parking
garage
across
the
street
for
at
least
purchase
financing.
So
they'll
take
that
nine
months
and
do
that
as
well.
That
will
bring
periodic
updates
to
you
as
we're
as
we're
moving
along
those
two
steps.
D
We've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
in
that
nine
months.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
it's
exciting,
but
it's
not
always
going
to
be
easy,
but
we
appreciate
your
support
in
this.
I
think
scott
and
I
realized
that
from
a
management
standpoint,
if
we
keep
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
with
our
facilities,
we're
just
setting
the
future
generation
of
leaders
and
the
next
council
up
for
a
really
hard
lift,
and
I
think
we've
hopefully
solved
that
that
one
big
problem
that's
been
looming
over
us.
A
We
want
to
have
a
quite
frankly,
I'd
like
to
see
us
have
a
world-class
police
training
facility
within
that
building.
So
there
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
review
all
of
that,
but
we
do
have
still
some
significant
cost
within
this
building.
Moving
forward.
F
Within
our
current
cip
that
we
have
what
36
million
so
that
already
is
in
there
for
to
be
expended
for
the
armory,
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
importance
it
is
for
it
to
be.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
talked
about
the
police,
but
the
I.t
department,
and
I
see
back
anna-
is
critical
in
the
armory.
So
therefore
we
know
that
we're
going
to
open
up
space
armory
becomes
open.
Yes,
a
lot
across
the
street
becomes
open.
The
police
station
has
a
potential
and
how
much
land
is
around
the
police
station.
D
D
Historic
building
itself,
it's
the
other
surrounding
development,
land,
all
adjacent
to
the
market
district.
So
the
timing
on
that.
I
think
when,
when
we
have
a
better
idea
of
a
move
date
for
it
and
the
armory
building
staff,
we'll
back
into
that
and
maybe
a
year
out
from
that,
we'll
issue,
an
rfp
for
redevelopment,
the
armory
building
that
could
be
anything
from
and
we'll
take
some
guidance
from
you
anything
from
an
historic
rehab
to
to
to
scrape
it
and
and
build
new.
We
could
you
could
do
any
that
and
anything
in
between.
D
F
Now
I
just
think
that
that
is
very
important,
because
the
amount
of
money
that
we
could
get
just
for
redevelopment
is
huge.
The
other
thing
within
that
building
does
the
office
furniture.
That's
already.
There
stay
you're.
F
Why
I
just
was
wondering,
because
that
would
offset
quite
a
bit
of
the
cost
if
they
can
be
reused,
I
would
assume
they're
in
they're
very
good,
very
good.
Yes,
so
again,
this
is
a
huge
opportunity,
a
great
way
to
be
efficient
with
the
money
that
we
have
for
taxpayer
dollars
and
provide
the
city
services
that
we
need
to
provide.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
work
you've
put
in.
B
Yeah
some
of
connie's
comments,
a
question
to
you:
scott,
as
you
talk
about
the
cip
and
taxes
as
we
move
forward.
Are
you
anticipating
a
levy
increase
for
this
purchase?
A
C
B
A
Well,
I
like
to
let
them
speak
to
that,
but
it
this
is
going
to
be
a
team
effort.
Okay,
because
it
again
it
will
touch
on
nearly
every
department.
The
exception
might
be
parks,
but,
and
maybe
public
works,
but
really
the
rest
of
the
organization.
A
B
You
know
I
know
some
of
the
news
stations
had
it
completely
wrong
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
stuff
is
going
to
be
moving
out
of
here
and-
and
you
know
how
much
money
we
put
into
this
building-
and
you
know
I
mean
that
that's
going
to
happen.
So
it's
clear
that
obviously
the
cost
for
this
building
went
up
as
we
went
through
the
whole
remodeling
portion
of
it,
because
we
added
and
we
took
away-
let's,
let's
try
to
get
everybody
in
the
room.
B
D
Building
we
will
form
a
pretty
large
internal
stakeholder
team.
It'll
include
chief
winger
and
and
major
ness
and
their
administrative
team
we're
not
and
we'll
go
back
and
and
we'll
make
sure
that
our
the
new
consultant
that
we
hire
is
also
is
familiarizes
themselves
with
the
police
study
that
we
did
a
few
years
ago.
They're
still
that's
still
valid,
is
still
our
value
to
what
the
police
needs
for
their
best
practices,
so
we
won't
be
starting
from
scratch.
Well,.
B
Good
work
I
mean
I,
I
think
that
this
is
a
real
positive
game
changer.
I
know
that
we
do
have
some
economic
development
opportunities
once
this
is
done
so
nice
work
by
all
to
be
able
to
pull.
D
It
off,
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
we're
not
at
all
turning
our
back
on
the
east
village
and
the
in
the
riverwalk
area.
I
think,
if
anything,
the
reuses
will
invigorate
this
area.
These
are
government
buildings,
they're
eight
to
five
right
monday
through
friday,
yet
we're
kind
of
in
an
entertainment
district,
that's
seven
days
a
week
and
I
think
new
uses
will
just
reinvigorate
this
area.
So
when.
D
Or
will
that
go?
It'll
stay
it'll
stay,
so
those
those
businesses
are
under
lease.
We're
excited
to
have
those
as
an
amenity
to
our
employees:
okay,
yeah,
absolutely
perfect,
yeah
in
fact,
and
the
mirror
image
the
left
hand,
the
east
hand
side
of
that
locust
street
frontage.
We
could
do
more
retail
bays
if
we
wanted
to.
If
we
have
the
space.
Okay.
D
G
D
The
financing
plan
right
now
is
to
buy
the
parking
garage
separately
from
the
building
and
it
will
be
purchased
by
the
parking
system
enterprise.
So
we
plan
to
operate
that
just
like
any
other
parking
garage
so
similar
to
the
one
across
the
street
where
city
employees
use
it,
but
also
we
share
it
with
the
businesses
surrounding.
So
absolutely
it's
gonna.
It's
gonna
run,
it
won't
say,
city
employees,
only
above
the
garage
everyone
will
with
with
16.
D
E
E
A
So
you
are
correct
that
the
urgency
would
be
the
I.t
and
the
armory
to
be
replaced,
but
we
have
found
that
the
police
training
down
on
the
south
side
needs
to
be
in
that
first
phase
as
well.
So
that's
that's
my
anticipation,
but
I
think
you
need
to
give
us
a
little
flexibility
when
we
come
back
with
that
space
analysis
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
even
guess
on
the
timing
of
what
that
might
be.
D
The
other
thing
that
we
are,
we
aren't
sure
of,
is
exactly
who
goes
where
so
it
could
be
when
we
talk
about
vacating,
the
armory
building,
maybe
the
engineering
department.
That's
here
goes
to
1200
locust
and
economic
development
moves
from
the
armory
over
to
city
hall.
We
don't
know
who's
going
to
exactly
slide
where
so
you
might
have
some
some
some
in
that
first
phase
could
be
some
departments
here
that
are
easy
to
move,
move
them
over
there
and
then
there's
just
some
shifting
and
sliding
around.
D
We
also
have
civil
and
human
rights
in
the
housing
department
river
place
that
we
need
to
figure
out
what
we're
gonna,
where,
where
their
best
landing
spot
is,
and
when
does
the
lease
on
that
face,
I
don't
know
that
off
top
my
head
and
it's
open.
A
A
C
E
Yeah,
but
I
mean
I
know
this-
this
represents
the
culmination
of
a
lot
of
work
and-
and
I
echo
what
what
the
others
have
said,
I
mean
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
improve
the
efficiency,
improve,
improve
the
quality
of
city
facilities
and
solve
some
issues
for
the
long
term
at
a
very,
very
reasonable
rate.
E
So
so
it's
great
work
and
it
and
then
it
on
the
on
the
flip
side
of
that
it
presents
some
additional
economic
development
opportunities
in
this
neighborhood
in
the
east
village,
so
really
great,
creative
thinking
and
and
follow
through
on
this
and
eager
to
see
what
what
happens
as
we,
we
get
the
rfp
and
we
work
with
the
consultant
and
see
how
this
can
work
out.
So
thanks
for
this
work
and
thank
you
mayor,
do
you
have
any
anything
else?
You
want
to
add.