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From YouTube: 11-7-22 City Council work session
Description
Des Moines City Council morning work session on Monday, November 7, 2022.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
A
A
Yeah,
we'll
we'll
let
Andrew
get
going,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
thank
her
for
being
here
I.
You
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
homeless
population
in
Des
Moines
and
how
we
serve
them
and
how
we
can
better
serve
them
and
one
of
the
things
if
we
as
a
council
want
to
better
understand
the
landscape
and
what
is
going
on
it's
pretty
critical
Homeward
is
Central
to
all
of
that.
C
Good
morning,
thank
you
very
much
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
front
of
you
and
share
a
little
bit
about
our
organization,
as
well
as
provide
some
updates
about
things
that
are
happening
within
our
community
Mr
I
said
my
name
is
Angie
Arthur
I'm
executive
director
of
Homeward,
and
we
are
the
regional
planning
Organization
for
homelessness
in
Polk
County.
Within
that
we're
working
to
create
strategic,
Partnerships
and
homelessness.
We
do
that
by
working
with
a
variety
of
individuals
and
we'll
start
with
the
first
slide.
C
Our
government
officials,
as
well
as
individuals
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
through
these
Partnerships,
we're
we're
working
together
to
look
at
the
overall
efficiency
and
effectiveness
of
our
system,
understanding
that
we
have
very
limited
resources
in
the
best
way
to
work
together
so
that
we
can
collaborate
and
evolve
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community
members
with
that
overall
Vision
that
one
day
that
everyone
in
Polk
County
has
a
safe
place
to
call
home.
That
is
our
overall
vision
of
Wonder,
one
of
the
things
that
we
want
for
our
community.
C
There
are
a
lot
of
homeless
experts
within
the
overall
community
that
they're
doing
great
work
on
a
daily
basis,
and
what
we're
able
to
do
as
an
organization
is
to
look
at
a
system-wide
approach
to
look
at
all
those
different
pieces
that
we
have
within
the
community.
What
are
the
gaps
that
we
have
within
the
community?
C
What
are
the
benefits
that
we
have
the
resources
that
were
currently
in
place
what's
best
for
our
community
as
we
look
and
have
those
discussions
and
conversations
with
folks
that
are
receiving
the
services,
the
partners
that
are
providing
their
services?
Looking
at
those
overall
leading
initiative,
Innovations
and
solutions,
what
can
we
do
to
better
serve
the
folks
to
meet
the
needs
of
homelessness
in
Polk
County?
We
do
that
for
a
variety
of
ways.
We
talk
about
and
disseminate
best
practices.
We
look
at
Community
standards.
What
the
expectation
is,
if
you're,
providing
a
rapidly
housing
program.
C
Why
do
we
exist
part
of
it
has
to
do
with
legislation?
The
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development
HUD
has
a
mandate
and
I've
included
if
you
love
to
get
into
Federal,
Registries
I've
recorded
put
the
site
there
for
you
to
look
at
some
of
the
specifics
there,
but
it
exists
to
create
our
community
response
to
homelessness.
So
there
are
specific
guidelines
and
expectations
about
what
our
community
needs
to
have
in
place
to
be
able
to
make
that
work,
and
also
what
we
need
to
have
in
place
to
receive
funding
for
our
community
and
again.
C
Overall
goal
is
to
work
to
end
homelessness
and
what
we
can
do
to
provide
those
different
funding
opportunities
for
our
service
providers
within
the
community.
We
are
not
a
direct
service
provider,
so
that
allows
us
to
step
back
and
look
at
those
systemic
holistic
approaches.
What
are
some
of
those
changes
that
we
need
in
our
system?
What
are
some
barriers
that
we
can
look
at
and
reduce
what
are
some
things
as
an
organization
that
we
can
do
to
help
support
our
service
providers?
C
So
again,
we're
looking
at
that
overall
searching
Viewpoint
of
what
we
have
going
on
in
our
community
from
a
homeless
system
perspective
and
moving
that
forward
again.
There's
that
goal
that
we
want
to
have
a
safe
place
called
home,
and
that
is
important,
but
we
want
that
so
that
our
community
members
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
can
Thrive.
We
want
them
to
be
able
to
focus
on
their
health,
their
well-being
again
attend
school
or
work
whatever
that
might
be
for
those
individuals.
C
But
we
know
that
if
we
don't
have
that
stability
of
housing
for
individuals
and
for
households,
that
that
is
a
challenge
for
them
and
they
have
more
barriers
that
they're
experiencing
higher
incidence
of
physical
health
issues.
Mental
health
stress
trauma
a
variety
of
those
different
things.
So
those
are
some
of
the
the
aspects
to
get
into
a
little
bit
of
the
nuts
and
bolts
Homeward
has
a
board
of
directors.
There's
23
current
members
who
have
up
25
members.
Those
are
made
up
of
various
Partners
within
the
community.
Again.
C
The
federal
registry
has
some
guidelines
that
encourages
us
and
who's
going
to
be
on
that
board.
We
have
service
providers
that
are
providing
homeless
service
resources.
We
have
employers
within
the
community
representation
from
education
from
the
Des
Moines
School
Districts,
as
well
as
various
other
entities.
We
have
representations
from
the
police
department
as
well
as
a
variety
of
folks.
That
now,
of
course,
can't
think
of
all
the
other
categories
of
what
they
are.
C
But
again
we
have
a
wide
representation
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
have
good
input
as
well
as
including
some
folk
with
lived
experience
and
participation
on
that.
There
are
several
folks
from
the
city
of
Des
Moines
that
also
participate.
We
scrapped
one
of
the
members
here,
that's
on
our
board,
as
well
as
Manisha
Patel,
Lorna,
Garcia
and
Rebecca
Foster
from
Municipal
housing
agency.
So
again
we
want
to
have
a
good
representation
of
folks.
We
have
the
individuals
from
the
county
also
that
are
serving
on
the
board.
C
E
C
Three
primary
places
we
receive
funding
from
HUD
planning
grant
that
is
out
is
in
the
overall
process
of
the
regular
thing
throughout
the
community.
We
have
funding
from
the
city
of
Des
Moines
and
we
have
funding
from
Polk
County
that
those
are
the
three
larger
primary
ones.
We
also
do
applications
with
local
foundations,
so
we
have
funding
that
we've
received
local
foundations
as
well
and.
C
One
is
community
collaboration,
it's
very
obvious
that
we
can't
do
the
work
on
in
our
silos
whether
we
need
to
work
together
and
make
sure
that
what
we're
moving
forward
is
best
for
the
community
and
also
is
supported
overall
within
the
community.
We
also
discussed
racial
equity
and
the
need
for
the
resources
and
the
services
that
we
provide
Not
to
cause
further
inequity
Not
to
cause
disparity.
And
what
can
we
do
to
address
that
so
A
Brief
example
of
what
that
might
look
like?
C
Is
we
have
a
tool
called
a
vulnerability
index
review,
and
so,
when
you're
coming
into
the
system,
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
serving
the
most
vulnerable
individuals.
So,
if
we're
looking
at
the
vulnerability
of
your
likelihood
to
die
on
the
streets,
and
so
what
does
that
look
like
higher
score?
You
have
the
more
vulnerable
and
individual.
C
There's
some
that
just
reflected
what
was
in
the
community.
But
we
looked
at
that
looked
at
the
questions.
Look
we're
able
to
put
in
a
different
version,
we're
able
to
add
some
additional
assessment
questions
so
that
we
could
help
remove
some
of
that
and
navigate
in
the
work
that
we
do.
So
that's
an
example
of
what
racial
equity
and
why
that's
so
important
and
then
the
other
thing
the
community
felt
was
important
to
have
is
housing.
C
First
and
I
know
you've
had
some
conversations
regarding
that
in
your
previous
discussions
and
discussions
with
other
service
providers,
but
I
also
wanted
to
include
with
you
some
of
those
elements
of
what
is
included
in
housing.
First
and
overall,
we
want
to
remove
the
barriers
that
people
experience
to
go
moving
into
housing.
What
does
that
look
like
immediate
access
to
permanent
housing?
So
it
means
you
don't
have
to
be
housing
right.
You
don't
need
an
ID.
You
don't
need
a
clean,
Corrections
record.
You
don't
need
to
have
a
job.
C
It
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
work
towards
supporting
you
to
those
different
forms
of
incomes
right
once
you
get
there,
but
it's
important
to
get
you
housed.
Example:
I
used.
If
you
are
a
person,
that's
diabetic.
If
you
don't
have
a
refrigerator
to
put
your
insulin
in
like
that
is
a
health
issue
in
a
challenge.
So
it's
best
to
get
you
house
first
that
we
can
support
you
and
Surround
you
with
services.
C
The
next
element
again
is
also
talking
about
client
client
driven
supports,
so
we
talk
about
moving
folks
into
housing,
but
it's
also
important
to
support
people
with
those
Supportive
Services
so
that
they
can
be
successful
and
continue
to
be
housed.
So
again,
that's
one
of
those
other
elements
and
the
fifth
element
that
we
talk
about
in
maybe
not
as
well
known.
But
if
you
think
about
it,
we
want
you
to
be
connected
from
a
social
and
Community
integration
aspect.
So
it's
important
that
you
have
those
supports
from
a
community
aspect
and
connected.
C
C
So,
a
little
more,
the
nuts
and
bolts
that
we've
asked
one
of
the
questions
kind
of
to
segued
into
this
is
we
do
have
three
staff
members,
so
there's
a
lot
of
work
for,
or
three
small
staff
members,
our
three
staff
members,
a
small
number
of
folks.
So
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
do
is
we
need
to
rely
on
the
committee
structure
that
we
have
to
achieve
our
goals
and
those
committee
structures.
C
Lisa
also
sits
on
back,
committed
you
as
well,
and
we
of
course,
look
at
the
allocation
of
funds
and
go
to
got
those
and
move
those
forward
have
some
of
the
basic
structures
as
well
for
Homeward
and
the
Continuum
of
Care
One
of
the
one
of
the
titles
that
you
might
hear
us
call
is
a
Continuum
of
Care
lead
and
that's
more
of
a
HUD
term
within
that.
So
just
to
kind
of
let
you
know
that
that's
part
of
our
role
within
the
community.
C
We
have
finance
committee,
coordinated
services
that
talks
about
policies
and
standards
and
practices
so
getting
some
of
those
nitty-gritty,
detailed
things
as
well.
As
you
see,
we
have
racial
equity
and
communication
and
also
as
we're
looking
at
collaboration,
we
will
have
a
shared
committee
with
two
other
organizations
in
town
regarding
housing,
because
we
felt
it
was
important
to
Not
Duplicate
those
committee
members
and
meetings
to
move
that
forward.
So
again,
it
just
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
information.
C
C
They
kindly
issue
like
a
90
pages
of
instructions
on
an
annual
basis
and
how
we
move
forward
the
process
and
how
the
scoring
and
things
are
to
move
forward
and
happen,
and
so
with
that
there's
different
things
that
have
Buzz
one
of
those
things
or
several
of
those
things
you
can
see
listed
up
here,
but
centralized
intake,
homeless
management
information
system.
The
planning
Grant
to
help
us
move
forward
with
the
work
that
we're
doing
rapid
rehousing,
permit,
Supportive,
Housing,
Supportive
Services.
C
Only
so
again,
those
are
the
kind
of
resources
that
come
into
our
community
that
we
partner
with.
We
go
through
that
allocation
process,
vote
on
it
and
move
that
forward.
Then
there's
some
some
funding
that
comes
into
and
actually
granted
to
the
city
of
Des
Moines
for
emergency
Solutions
Grant,
but
in
the
legislation
and
the
requirements
that
talk
about
partnering
with
Continuum
of
Care,
and
so
we've
partnered
with
the
city
and
doing
the
the
RFP
process
for
the
Emergency
Solutions
Grant.
C
So
you'll
see
that
funds
a
few
of
the
same
items
of
centralized
intake,
homeless
management,
information
system
and
Rapid
rehousing.
But
then
the
funds
are
also
used
for
shelters
for
Street
Outreach
and
for
homeless
prevention.
So
it's
important
that
we
have
those
variety
of
services,
but
also
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
the
different
resources
don't
always
fund
the
same
type
of
needs
within
our
community.
C
We
all
of
those
are
important
resources
for
us
to
use
well,
I
also
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
when
an
organization
receives
the
funds
or
its
contract
and
granted,
they
do
receive
those
dollars.
But
there
is
an
expectation
from
the
federal
government
that
those
organizations
provide
additional
funds
to
that.
So,
for
example,
the
Continuum
of
Care
funding.
If
you
receive
a
hundred
dollars,
you're
required
to
match
25.
So
you
need
to
match
additional
25.
It's
a
it's
a
bit
steep,
more
steep
for
the
Emergency
Solutions
Grant
because
they
require
100,
100
man.
C
C
Again,
a
little
bit
more
of
that
structure
and
how
it
interacts
with
the
city
council.
Here
again,
we
talked
about
the
grant
committee
doing
the
review
and
the
scoring
and
the
board
then
reviews
and
approves
those
allocations,
and
then
you,
as
the
city
of
Des
Moines,
are
a
collaborative
applicant,
the
The
Entity
that
actually
submits
that
application
into
the
federal
government
and
because
of
that
role,
we
you
have
that
that
aspect
of
the
the
responsibility
to
be
able
to
vote,
to
approve
that
overall
Grant.
C
It
applies
to
both
okay,
you
are
the
applicant
for
the
collaborative
applicant
in
general,
and
so
even
when
we
had
the
new
source
of
funding
that
was
brought
forward
to
this
group
last
month
for
the
unsheltered
application.
That
would
also
be
there
there's
a
possibility
of
some
other
grants
coming
up
this
next
year.
We
don't
know
what
they
are
I'm,
just
in
some
conversations
with
a
representative
from
the
United
States
and
Rachel
interagency
Council
on
homelessness.
C
The
homeless.
Coordinating
council
is
one
of
the
questions
that
you
asked
about
is
a
comprised
of
local
elected
officials,
so
this
is
a
little
bit
different
in
the
aspect
of
compared
to
the
Homeward
board
homework.
It's
also
should
have
set
a
501c3
organization,
so
we're
an
independent
non-profit
as
well
homeless.
C
And
so
we
need
to
reinforce
that
with
those
conversations
that
we're
having
so
we're
taking
this
group.
That
has
an
opportunity
to
learn
about
homelessness
in
Polk
County.
What
it
looks
like,
what
are
the
available
resources
that
we
have
again
we're
talking
and
asking
those
individuals
to
bring
back
this
information
to
their
communities,
to
to
share
that
and
educate
their
other
community
members
and
their
fellow
elected
officials
within
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
again
asking
for
input
for
different
entities
of
different
pieces
of
information
that
we
share
of?
C
What's
going
on,
we
share
information
comparable
to
to
this
group
about
point
in
time,
other
information
that
we
have
about
what's
happening
within
the
community
and
then
we're
asking
about
what
are
those
needs
of
Community
Resources
that
can
be
addressed.
What
does
that
look
like
having
those
kind
of
discussion
we
meet
quarterly
and
again
we
talked
about
we're
focused
on
collaboration
across
the
county.
So
that's
why
we
have
this
other
suburban
community
members
in
there
for
that
representation
and
is
staffed
by
Homeward
as
well.
So
those
are
some
some
pieces
there.
D
C
D
C
D
G
H
C
Right
and
so,
for
example,
like
the
city
of
West,
Des,
Moines,
we've
helped
them
in
some
of
their
consolidation
right,
because
that's
that's
also
part
of
the
expectation
of
the
HUD
guidelines
is
that
we
support
those
communities
that
are
required
to
do
the
fair
housing
planning
and
things
along
that
line.
That
is
part
of
our
role
as
well
as
requirements.
F
C
F
A
C
Again,
we're
wanting
to
what
we're
wanting
to
achieve
with
the
homeless
council
is
connecting
more
with
communities
overall,
and
the
leaders
in
the
communities
have
those
conversations
about
homelessness
that
be
able
to
talk
about
what
kind
of
information
we
have
to
share.
We've
shared
municipality,
specific
information
about
their
gaps
in
affordable
housing
and
the
needs
that
they
have
to
help
support
them.
I
know
we're
talking
about
homelessness,
but
affordable.
C
Lack
of
affordable
housing
is
one
of
the
lead
causes
of
homelessness,
so
they
go
hand
in
hand,
and
it's
important
that
we
have
those
conversations
again.
We
wanted
to
create
a
space
to
regular
updates
for
them
about
what's
happening
within
the
system
and
the
resources
that
we
have
overall
within
the
community
with
the
HCC
we've
had
the
work
group,
the
extreme
weather
work
Group,
which
came
about
regarding
a
request
from
this
body
here
and
looking
at
how
we
can
better
serve
the
community
members
that
are
experiencing
on
sheltered
homelessness
within
the
community.
C
C
I'm
going
to
transition
now
to
more
of
from
what
homework
is
and
does
to
more
of
what
is
happening
within
the
community
and
wanted
to
provide
some
demographic
information
regarding
racial
and
ethnic
ethnicity
and
what
you
can
see
there
is
that
35
of
the
individuals
that
we
serve
throughout
the
overall
homeless
system,
so
we're
talking
full
spectrum
of
resources
that
are
happening
in
the
homeless
system.
35
are
black
as
compared
to
that's
a
huge
over
representation
as
compared
to
the
2020
census,
where
almost
eight
percent
of
individuals
in
within
Polk
County
are
black.
C
So
the
folks
that
we're
serving
there's
an
over-representation
there's,
a
higher
level
of
need,
you're,
seeing
again
some
more
as
you
look
at
the
numbers,
it's
55
why
35
black
African-American?
These
are
also
terms
used
by
Hud
as
well.
So
that's
the
definitions
that
we're
we're
being
defining
for
race,
race
and
ethnicity.
Eight
percent
of
people
are
two
or
more
races.
One
percent
American
Indian
Native
American
point
seven
percent,
Asian
and
point
three
percent
native
Hawaiian
Pacific
island.
C
Talked
a
little
bit
about
this
before
about
why
we
have
homelessness
in
our
County.
It's
a
myriad
of
reasons
right,
there's
a
there's,
several
systemic
and
societal
barriers
that
are
providing
challenges
again,
the
lack
of
affordable
and
accessible
housing.
That's
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we
have
I,
think
not
just
in
Polk
County
but
across
the
state.
I
think
that's
a
challenge
and
a
barrier
again
when
we
have
folks
with
high
barriers,
there's
Financial
mental
cognitive,
behavioral
and
other
physical
challenges
that
they
experience
as
well
as
racial
discrimination,
domestic
violence.
C
All
those
issues
have
impact
for
us.
One
thing
to
note:
we
talk
about
a
lack,
affordable
and
appropriate
housing.
This
is
some
numbers
that
came
from
the
National
Coalition
Coalition
for
low-income
housing
is
that
just
fairly
recently
released
for
every
hundred
households
of
the
of
the
low
extremely
low
income,
so
30
of
every
meeting
income
and
below
so
for
every
household
that
are
looking
for
housing.
C
There
are
23
housing
units
available
so
that
lets
you
know
that
there's
a
significant
gap
of
housing
in
that
area,
you'll
see
it
shrinks
as
incomes
increase
and
then,
when
you
get
higher
income,
there's
actually
a
surplus
of
housing
happy
to
provide
more
detail
or
information
on
that
and
more
information.
If
that
is
of
interest
group,
unfortunately
we're
not
able
to
get
that
by
Community
level,
but
we
can
get
that
by.
G
C
Sure
and
yes,
I
think
both
of
those
when
people
are
re-entering
from
the
correctional
system.
If
that's
on
your
background,
that
is,
can
be
a
barrier
for
landlords,
and
that
is
you
need
to
know
who
might
be
in
the
community
that
we're
willing
to
support
that,
and
sometimes
that
is
a
challenge,
particularly
depending
on
what
the
charge
might
and
as
we
develop
more
green
space,
we're
seeing
folks
move
that
maybe
were
unhoused
and
unsheltered
and
camping
there,
and
so
yes,
both
of
those
things
will
have
affected
homelessness
within
our
community.
Thank.
G
C
These
are
some
numbers
that,
probably
you
know,
ebb
and
flow
might
have
changed
a
little
bit,
but
not
significantly,
since
we
put
this
report
together,
they're
currently
521
households
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
that
are
on
the
wait
list
for
housing
support.
So
that's
a
significant
number
of
of
households
and
that's
not
individuals
but
households.
It
could
be
singles
or
families
in
that
number.
So
it's
again,
it's
we
just
don't
have
those
housing
supports
in
our
community,
provide
them
those
resources
right
now
or
when
I
ask
the
question.
C
We
have
76
families
that
are
on
the
wait
list
for
emergency
shelter
that
is
higher
than
we've
seen
since,
before
the
pandemic,
there
was
a
couple
times
during
the
pandemic.
We
were
down
to
single
digits,
but
now
it's
increased
again.
So
that's
a
that's
a
challenge.
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
these
folks
are
living
unsheltered.
They
could
be
doubled
up,
but
again,
that's
not
stability
of
housing
for
folks
or
living
in
their
heart
could
be
living
the
most
like.
There's
a
very
variety
of
things:
I
think
what
we're
also.
A
C
Yes,
exactly
there's
very
few
exceptions
we
have
and
when
you
look
at
from
the
shelter
perspective,
we're
doing
some
data
work
with
Hope
Ministries
and
we
should
be
at
100
from
the
shelter
perspective
very
soon.
So
that's
important
for
us
from
a
data
knowledge
perspective
and
and
adding
information
into
our
system
to
best
understand,
what's
happening.
C
One
of
the
challenges
that
we're
seeing
right
now
is
in
the
rental
market.
It's
been
very
difficult
for
rentals
to
to
connect
with
affordable
apartments
or
just
Apartments
apartments
in
general
to
find
that
appropriate
housing,
even
when
we
have
resources
of
Supportive,
Housing
or
rapid
rehousing
dollars
to
go
to
them,
even
when
we
guaranteed
for
a
period
of
time
that
you
will
have
payment
for
that
rent,
that's
becoming
a
challenge
for
us
in
the
community
and
you
know,
as
we
know,
as
whether
cold
weather
quickly
approaches
us.
C
G
C
And
they're
coming
in
and
they're
having
people
move
out
and
they
may
or
may
not
remodel
and
then
increasing
rent
yeah
yeah
increasing
the
rent.
So
that's
a
challenge,
I
think
with
the
pandemic,
there's
several
of
our
small
landlords
that
have
transitioned
into
property
management
companies
and
lots
of
times
larger
property
management
companies.
Don't
always
have
flexibility
and
interest
in
working
with
organizations
as
well.
C
That
have
some
of
those
supports
I
think
also
having
the
legislation
in
place
that
the
state
approved
regarding
income
also
has
legal
source
of
income
also
has
an
impact
as
well.
So
there's
a
variety
of
reasons
within
that
and
what
you're
seeing
built
is
not
blowing
housing.
It
is
higher
end,
housing
and
so
I
think
that's
more
challenges.
A
C
A
That
that's
an
important
clarification
right,
because
the
folks
who
are
who
are
homeless
and
are
most
vulnerable,
we're
talking
about
the
lowest
level
of
affordability,
right
and
and
when
we
talk
at
the
council
table
oftentimes.
You
know
we're
talking
80,
even
affordable
projects
that
we
get
down
to
60.
Very
rarely
do
we
get
units
in
that
30
to
40
percent
of
Ami.
H
I
always
get
concerned
that
we
always
talk
40
30
in
reality
to
people
to
understand
what
does
that
mean
for
a
family
of
four?
What
would
you
make
if
you
considered
30,
Ami
I
think
sometimes
people
when
you
hear
that
number
it's
a
much
right
is
much
more
tangible
to
what
people
are
facing
so
30.
What's
that
mean.
H
Just
think
it's
some
we
always
and
every
agency
I've
ever
you
know,
United
Way
We
all
talk
about
the
numbers,
but
for
the
regular
for
people
to
understand
what
that
means
for
people
out
there
is,
you
know
a
family
of
four
twenty
four
thousand.
Is
that
a
family
I
don't
know
if
this
is
accurate
or
not,
but
I
think
it
helps
put
in
perspective
the
problems
people
are
facing
based
on
the
incomes
you
can
earn
in
today's
exactly.
G
G
G
Okay
and
then
we
are
discussing
today
family
we're
going
to
be
discussing
changing
our
payment
standard
for
the
new
year
down
from
107.
We
just
said
a
few
months
ago
to
100.
Would
that
change
effect
I
mean
we're
talking
about
challenges
in
the
rental
market?
Would
going
back
down
to
100
payment
standard
for
Section
8?
Would
that
sort
of
exacerbate
this
problem
or
would
it
have
an
effect.
G
C
Just
a
couple
numbers
behind
the
need
here
to
let
you
know
number
of
people
being
served
we
have
centralized
intake.
Is
that
process
that
we
have
in
the
community
it's
administered
by
Primary,
Health
Care,
and
that's
how
folks
enter
in
the
homeless
system
and
be
able
to
be
referred
to
housing,
supports
and
services
and
other
resources.
So
to
look
at
the
numbers
that
we
have
there's
about
1744
households
that
completed
that
intake.
A
A
E
I
C
So
with
this
chart
we'll
go
back
real,
quick
because
I
know
I'm
running
out
of
my
time
here,
just
to
let
you
know
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
numbers
of
people
that
are
going
through
the
centralized
intake
process.
Again,
that's
that
vulnerability,
assessment
and
letting
us
know
what
kind
of
needs
folks
have
and
referrals
being
made
from
that
system.
So
you
can
see
we're
on
track
this
year
to
probably
have
comparable
numbers
not
surpassed
the
number
that
we
had
last
year.
C
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
important
for
us
to
know
it's
not
just
a
number
of
people
on
in
need,
that's
increasing!
It's
also,
the
their
needs
are
increasing
their
level
of
barriers.
Are
their
experience,
they're
increasing.
So
that's
what
this
chart
shows
in
2020,
38
of
people
that
completed
that
vulnerability,
assessment
tested
or
excuse
me
not
just
it
scored
higher
levels
of
vulnerability,
meaning
that
they
would
be
eligible
for
the
most
and
the
highest
level
of
services
and
supports
that
we
can
give
within
the
community.
So
that
means
there's
more
barriers.
C
There's
higher
barriers
due
to
health,
to
to
mental
health
due
to
disability
due
to
violence,
substance
use
Correctional
history,
whatever
that
might
be
eviction
history,
whatever
that
might
be
that's
vulnerability.
In
2021,
we
saw
that
number
go
up
to
47
percent
and
the
first
nine
months
of
this
year
we
saw
increase
to
over
54.
So
that's
a
significant
change
in
the
number
of
folks.
The
number
of
households
I
should
say
that
are
experiencing
higher
barriers.
I
C
I
guess
category
I
think
that's
where
that
collaboration
comes
in
and
has
conversations,
we've
had
conversations
with
substance
use
service
providers
and
a
few
months
ago,
regarding
what's
available
in
the
community,
are
there's
different
resources
that
we
can
do
I.
Think
that
allows
us
some
opportunities
for
advocacy
on
different
things
along
the
line.
Eviction
expungement
is
one
of
those
things
that
is,
you
know
when
you
have
an
eviction
filing,
not
even
if
you
have
a
dismissal
or
even
if
it
was
done
in
error,
that
stays
on
your
record
and
shows
on
Iowa
courts.com.
C
So
even
if
it
was
an
error,
so,
for
example,
I'm
aware
of
a
lawyer
in
town
that
was
representing
someone
in
a
criminal
case
and
the
landlord
put
their
name,
the
lawyer's
name
on
the
case.
So
now
the
lawyer,
who
is
representing
someone,
has
an
eviction
filing
on
their
history
and
there's
no
way
for
them
to
get
that
off.
So
those
are
some
of
those
advocacy
things
that
we
could
do
in
Partnership.
That
can
address
some
of
those
different
barriers.
A
I
would
say
lemonade:
the
resources
are
through
the
Continuum
of
Care
Grant
and
the
emergency
Solutions
Grant
and
some
of
those
so
one
of
the
biggest
sources
I
mean
we.
We
have
permanent,
Supportive,
Housing
and
work
with
a
partner.
Our
permanent
Supportive
Housing
are
dealing
with
that
full
range
of
issues,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
think
this
data
helps
illustrate.
A
A
G
C
G
C
You're
talking
about
the
partnership
with
the
Monarch
apartments
and
we're
looking
at
that
opportunity
and
supporting
the
work
of
that
organization,
putting
that
together,
anim
housing
from
the
perspective
of
partnership
and
what
that
will
do
is
there
will
take
referrals
from
centralized
intake
and
supports
in
there
and
so
they're
bringing
in
other
partners
as
well
from
a
recovery
perspective
from
a
substance
use
perspective
from
a
mental
health
perspective
partner
to
support
those
individuals.
There
I
think
from
the
work
that
we
do
as
some
of
those
conversations
and
discussions.
C
So
a
small
example
of
this
might
be.
Is
we
met
just
last
week
with
ARL,
because
we
know
that's
that
can
be
a
barriers
for
some
folks
now
they're
working
with
some
individual
shelters,
but
we're
talking
from
a
system
perspective?
What
is
that
system
perspective
so
that
all
the
shelters
in
the
community
or
some
of
the
housing
programs
can
work
with
them
when
animal
placement
is
needed
to
be
able
to
support
someone
from
that
work?
So
those
are
the
kind
of
conversations
that
we're
going
to
have
from
that
person.
C
A
C
Believe,
there's
42
new
units
from
that
perspective,
and
so
that
will
offer
us
again
one
of
the
things
that
the
challenges
is.
It's
not
just
one
solution,
there's
many
solutions
for
us
in
the
community
and
our
permanent
Supportive
Housing
has
been
scattered
site
in
the
past
or
currently,
and
this
will
provide
us
an
opportunity
to
have
a
community
setting
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
which
is
a
better
solution
for
some
folks
in
our
community.
That's
important
to
be
able
to
have
those
variety
of
options.
B
Homeless,
yeah
and
so
I
can
just
make
sure
everyone's
understanding
that
the
Continuum
of
Care
funds
are
going
to
Supportive
Housing
Partners,
the
nonprofits,
who
are
then
oftentimes
subcontracting
for
these
specific
needs,
and
so
the
funds
are
flowing
through
to
those
types
of
services.
It's
just
layered.
Does
that
make
sense.
G
C
I
think
there's
a
variety
of
reasons
to
have
an
actual
puzzle
study
to
know
that,
but
I
think
there's
a
variety
of
things
proven
19
and
the
the
impact
from
that
I
think
we're
seeing
more
kind
of
moving
on
to
that
next
slide
as
well.
More
covered
resources
are
have
ended,
and
so
there's
a
lot
less
less
resources
in
the
community
to
address
those
things.
C
C
The
fair
market
rent
is
determined
by
Hud
for
Polk
County
in
our
community
is
889
dollars,
so
you
might
be
paying
more
for
your
rent
than
you're
going
to
get
for
disability,
so
that
just
shows
you
a
gap
in
the
resources
and
services.
Even
if
you
would
get
find
some
place
where
you
can
do
30
of
your
income,
that
leaves
you
with
less
than
600
a
month
to
be
able
to
If
you're
receiving
disability
payment
of
that
amount
to
be
able
to
have
food
medicine.
C
Whatever
else
you
need
within
those
resources
so
again
that
lack
of
affordable,
accessible
housing
talked
about
the
properties
being
sold
to
other
investment
companies.
So
we're
again
doing
things
to
be
able
to
make
efforts
within
our
community
the
HUD
funding
that
we
get
on
an
annual
basis,
the
application
for
the
4.4
million
dollars
for
the
unsheltered
homelessness
work.
C
We
have
Main
Street
vouchers
for
individuals
with
disabilities,
emergency
housing
vouchers
for
folks
that
are
experiencing
homes
so
again
trying
to
connect
with
those
different
partners
to
look
at
systemic
changes
and
things
that
we
need
to
do
so
again.
We
know
we
can
make
an
impact
if
we
have
the
appropriate
level
of
services
within
there.
D
C
Seen
it
happen
with
veterans
within
our
community
and
having
functional,
zero
and
meeting
those
four
measures
that
are
needed
to
to
do
that?
We've
been
successful
of
that
since
2016.
youth
homelessness
funding
came
into
our
community.
We
added
35
new
housing
units
for
that
specific
to
that
and
had
zero
youth
that
were
unsheltered
during
the
winter
session.
So
again
that
worked
there.
C
So
there's
different
ways
to
advocate
for
federal
dollars
and
I
would
say:
State
dollars
to
support,
affordable
housing
and
homelessness.
Services
we're
going
to
build
a
plan
around
our
unsheltered
study
to
look
at
ways.
We
can
eliminate
barriers
for
shelter
and
housing,
knowing
we
can't
eliminate
every
barrier,
but
we
can
eliminate
some
significant
ones
that
would
be
important
again:
lack
of
affordable
housing.
How
do
we
partner
and
look
at
other
opportunities
and
funding
Creative
Solutions
and
then
legislating
for
advocacy
and
systematic
changes?
C
H
C
H
G
So
our
next
steps,
as
a
partner
in
this
sort
of
large
Coalition
kind
of
what
you've
outlined
is,
is
looking
at
those
barriers
that
exist
looking
how
we
can
eliminate
those
barriers
and
then
the
big
one
really
would
be
that
lack
of
affordable
housing.
I,
like
that
you
put
in
long-term
innovative
solutions,
so
that
can
be
a
goal
for
us
to
be
looking
for
those
solutions
to
increase,
affordable
housing
in
our
community
I.
B
B
J
Pro
Tema
members
of
council
Jonathan
gain
a
public
works
director.
It's
a
borrow,
a
phrase
from
Monty
Python
Now
for
Something
Completely
Different,
so
we
have
2
200
miles
of
roadway
in
the
city
of
Des
Moines
that
are
in
our
care.
It
is
one
of
the
few
pieces
of
city
services
that
is
accessed
by
almost
everybody
every
single
day
and
even
those
that
don't
rely
on
it
for
the
delivery
of
goods
and
services.
So
it's
something
that
is
literally
the
top
of
everybody's
mind
as
soon
as
they
pull
down
the
driveway.
J
We
aim
to
make
that
experience
as
smooth
and
safe
and
reliable
for
everybody
so
that
they
can
get
to
work
school
without
having
to
think
about
or
worry
about.
What's
the
road
going
to
do
to
my
car
can
I
get
to
where
I
want
to
be,
but
2
200
miles
is
a
lot
of
stuff.
It
would
take
you
if
you
laid
it
out
and
and
to
Juno
Alaska
and
a
little
bit
beyond
I.
Don't
know
if
Geno
has
suburbs,
but
it
would
get
you
there.
J
J
And
it
would
take
you
a
very
long
time
to
do
just
that,
even
if
that
was,
if
you
just
had
one
tool
in
the
tool
kit
I
would
take
26
years
on
our
current
level
of
expenditure,
to
Mill
off
everything
and
put
two
inches
of
asphalt
back
on
top
of
it.
That's
neither
practical
nor
advisable.
So
we
have
a
different
way
that
we
try
to
maintain
Pavements.
J
And
that's
your
only
choice.
So
we
try
to
restore
the
life
of
Pavements
by
intervening
earlier
in
their
life
cycle,
restoring
their
condition
and
then
bumping
that
degradation
curve
further
out
to
the
Future.
Some
payments
are
what
you
can
call
Perpetual
payments.
You
can
do
this
cycle
again
and
again.
Other
payments
are
not
and
you
just,
but
that
still
extends
and
the
the
life
of
the
roadway
system
as
a
as
a
as
a
composite,
but
it
lets
you
defer
And
Delay,
more
expensive,
Rehabilitation
and
reconstruction
into
the
future,
even
if
not
indefinite.
J
It's
still
a
good
value
in
the
lexicon
of
payment
management,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
roads
fall
apart
and
a
lot
of
ways
that
you
can
fix
them.
But,
roughly
speaking,
we
have
problems
on
one
side
of
that
curve
and
Solutions
on
the
other.
We
have
every
single
one
of
these
Tools
in
our
toolkit
except
one.
J
That's
the
chipseal
scrub
seal
option
because
it
breaks
windshields
and
is
a
terrible
mess,
but
everything
else
is
in
the
public
works
departments
and
Engineering
Department's
tool
kits
to
try
to
achieve
that
life
extension
as
we
go
along.
We
do
benefit
from
a
wonderful
tool
that
is
available
to
every
roadway
owner
in
the
state
of
Iowa,
the
state
of
Iowa
funds
and
subsidizes
the
data
collection
for
what
the
roadway
condition
is
in
your
jurisdiction.
J
We
would
probably
do
this
anyway,
even
without
it,
but
it
is
a
it
is
a
whale
of
argon,
it's
about
six
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
for
licensing
fees
for
the
software
and
then
the
state
of
Iowa
furnishes
the
data
on
our
roadways
at
no
additional
cost
in
my
former
jurisdiction.
This
would
be
something
we
would
do
about
once
every
10
years
at
about
at
the
cost
of
a
quarter
million
dollars
and
that's
not
even
including
the
software
just
hiring.
J
The
major
arterials
using
the
same
kind
of
equipment
generated
similar
results,
but
they're
running
over
the
roadway
and
using
their
sensors
to
capture
every
single
within
the
the
inspection
area.
Every
single
crack
every
single
surface
defect,
every
pothole,
every
kind
of
of
Oddball
defect
that
you
can
find,
and
it
rolls
all
of
that
up,
assigns
a
identifies.
It
measures
it
categorizes.
It
assigns
a
severity
to
it
and
then
throws
that
into
a
a
rather
a
large
relational
database.
J
J
But
the
good
news
is
we
are
after
you,
you
run
the
numbers
on
all
2
200
miles
of
roadway.
Our
pavement
condition
index
is
a
60.5
which
is
kind
of
on
the
boundary
between
between
fair
and
good.
The
good
news
is
that
this
is
the
chart
from
the
2017
briefing
on
pavement
condition,
a
management
that
that
I
that
I'd
done
and
we
are
exactly
where
I
said
we
would
be
five
years
ago.
J
J
You're
not
expected
to
pinch
and
zoom
on
this
that
this
is
The
Five-Year
Plan.
It
is
a
lot
of
color
in
a
lot
of
places,
but
it
have
no
fear.
There
is
a
zoomable
version
on
the
city's
website
and,
as
you
zoom
in
it
is
easily
found
on
the
Public
Works
Department's
main
page
and
the
on
the
city's
website.
Just
hover
over
streets
on
the
left
side
bar
and
you'll
see
the
20-year
Street
Maintenance
forecast.
J
J
G
J
So
we
we
do
intend
to
spend
a
level
amount,
but
the
the
reality
of
of
taking
the
algorithms
output
and
and
then
applying
engineering
judgment
to
that,
the
algorithm
is
not
smart
enough
to
know
that
we're
going
to
do
a
sewer
project
in
a
neighborhood,
so
we'll
bump
projects
in
one
way,
or
it
will
say
you
know
it
will
take
one
segment.
You
know
one
long
block
of
roadway
and
the
the
algorithm
will
suggest
doing
five
different
years
worth
of
Pro
work
on
it.
We
will
not
want
to
do
that.
I
J
The
previous
in
the
the
20
I'm
just
working
for
memory
here
but
I,
want
to
say
in
the
2010
or
you
know:
first
half
the
2010s,
the
the
city
was
putting
about
5
million
per
year
right
and
that's
why
payment
conditions
were
going
down,
unlike
solving
many
of
of
life's
both
difficult
problems
that
face
a
city.
This
is
a
problem
you
can
solve
by
throwing
money
at
it
and
and
then
that
creates
a
different
problem
of.
J
If
you
don't
have
the
money,
that's
a
different
problem,
but
things
like
the
first
half
of
the
agenda.
That's
not
something
that
you
can
solve
just
by
throwing
money
in
it.
This,
however,
is
the
council
has
resource
payments
appropriately
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
give
credit
to
the
engineering
department
and
the
staff
of
the
public
works
department.
We
have
done
what
we
said
we
would
do
and
we
are
where
we
said
we
would
be.
So
that's
that's
the
the
good
news,
Jonathan.
B
If
I
could
just
add
to
that,
I
mean
that
was
a
pretty
significant
decision
by
city
council
back
in
2017,
because
what
they
did
at
that
point
was
decide
that
they
were
committed
to
improving
the
roadways
and
so
that
took
Bond
issues
and
a
commitment
and
additional
funding
at
that
point
in
time
and
efforts
towards
the
local
option,
sales
tax,
which
did
eventually
pass,
and
so
the
local
option.
Sales
tax
is
really
the
game
changer
on
that
funding.
G
J
So
as
we
work
through
our
different
sets
of
problems
and
all
of
their
Solutions
I
can
present
you
with
a
map
of
where
we
expect
to
be
going
forward.
The
five
years
in
the
plan
now
kind
of
stalls
out
at
that
at
that
mid,
60s
range,
and
if
we
can
get
into
the
middle
of
that
12
to
18
million
dollar
a
year,
expenditure
range
we'll
see
a
continued
upward
trajectory.
As
I
said
before
my
my
confidence
in
the
out
years,
you
know
kind
of
falls
off
a
little
bit.
J
Will
we
hit
75
I'm,
not
sure
I
did
come
from
a
community
where
decades
worth
of
solid
pavement
management
done
by
my
predecessors,
also
a
beneficial
climate,
because
it
was
six
hours
straight.
South
I
enjoyed
a
pavement
condition
index
average
city-wide
about
85,
and
it's
just
it
was.
It
is
possible,
but
it
is
Decades
of
investment
and
it
never
goes
away.
So,
although
it
is
a
problem
you
can
solve
by
throwing
money
at
it,
it
is
a
Perpetual
problem
that
requires
the
Perpetual
application
of
money.
J
So
I
can
say
for
the
first
five
years.
That's
in
the
CIP
now
I
would
recommend
that
we
increase
our
our
average
level
of
expenditure.
Now
is
about
12
million.
It
fluctuates
what's
approved
now
between
12
and
13.,
but
as
we
get
closer
to
14
in
the
five-year
into
the
out
years
of
The,
Five-Year
Plan
and
Beyond
you'll
see
a
continued
upper
trajectory
in
that
payment
condition.
J
A
little
bit
I
would
I
would
want
to
reserve
the
right
to
adjust
this
in
the
future.
You
know
we
we
update
this
every
year,
although
the
data
is
refreshed
with
a
a
new
drive
over
of
all
the
roadways,
all
once
only
four
every
four
years,
we
can
run
this
analysis,
the
it
is
a
forecast,
so
we
are
using
modeling
of
with,
with
that
pavement
degradation
curve
that
I'd
showed
before
to
predict
what
the
future
the
condition
will
be
in
the
future.
J
We
are
always
on
the
lookout
for
new
things
that
will
do
a
better
job
at
lower
expense,
particularly
interested
in
solving
problems
that
don't
have
good
Solutions.
An
example
of
that
is
the
less
than
maybe
completely
slightly
surface
patches
on
you'll
see
them
on
the
on
MLK
Parkway,
where
we're
trying
to
solve
a
problem
of
inadequate
drainage.
J
Under
the
roadway
and
saturation
of
the
pavement
joints
with
Salts
Road
salts,
we
have
to
use
Road
salts
in
the
wintertime,
but
that
that
can
cause
some
premature
Decay
at
the
joints,
kind
of
a
powdering
of
it
and
if
you
cut
it
out,
you've
now
just
created
two
more
joints
that
just
makes
your
problem
worse.
We've
started
sealing
over
that
with
a
special
kind
of
mastic
that
is
new
to
our
tool
to
our
tool
kit
and
it
is
dramatically
decreased.
J
The
amount
of
potholes
that
we
have
to
get
to
in
those
joints
over
the
the
winter
you'll
see
those
on
Indianola
Avenue
as
you
head
south
by
the
ball
field,
our
second
and
third.
Turning
into
Indianola,
that's
that's
a
new
application
of
something
where
we
can
stop
problems
from
happening
that
require
repeat
interventions
over
the
winter
and
if
I
can
get
a
year
out
of
it.
It's
great.
Some
of
the
application
has
been
in
the
on
the
ground
for
two
now
coming
up
on
its
third
year.
J
I
And
so
as
we
increase,
if
you
go
back
a
slide
to
the
14
million,
you
know
we
always
hear
the
argument
that
we
can't
you
know
engineering
is
not
able
to
keep
up.
We
can't
we
can't
get
out
and
do
that.
Do
you
see
that
as
a
potential
issue
or
as
we
increase
that
or
are
we
I'm
just
confident
that
you
this.
J
B
We'll
need
to
have
that
conversation
in
this
budget
cycle
about
whether
this
is
where
you
want
to
put
it
understand
that
just
the
time
value
of
money
we're
losing
that
battle
as
well
with
inflation.
So
we
absolutely
need
to
put
more
funds
just
to
get
the
same
expectation
of
work
done,
knowing
that
it's
going
to
cost
us
more,
especially
over
the
next
12
months.
So
there's
several
challenges
with
that
budget
cycle
that
we're
going
to
need
to
to
talk
through
okay,
but
this
would
be
one
option,
is.