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From YouTube: 7-7-22 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, July 7, 2022.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/PZatHome
A
2022
meeting
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission,
I
will
read
the
rules
for
tonight's
meeting.
The
plan
and
zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plots.
Unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
there
thereof,
are
appealed.
A
Applicant
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
A
All
comments
are
to
be
germane
to
the
item
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
Items
listed
on
the
consent
portion
of
the
agenda
will
not
be
individually
discussed
and
will
be
considered
for
approval,
in
accordance
with
the
recommendation
in
the
staff
report.
Unless
an
individual
present
or
member
of
the
commission
request
that
the
item
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
considered
separately
under
the
public
hearing
agenda.
C
A
A
Okay,
johnny.
A
A
All
right,
we
will
move
on
to
the
consent
items.
I
will
read
each
one
and
then
ask
if
anyone
present
would
like
to
take
it
off
of
the
consent,
move
it
on
to
hearing
number
one
determination
as
to
whether
the
proposed
east
army
post
road
urban
renewal
plan
is
in
conformance
with
the
planned
dsm
creating
our
tomorrow
plan.
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight
from
the
public
who
is
in
opposition
or
would
like
to
hear
this
item
tonight?
A
Number
two
requests
from
the
city
of
des
moines
for
vacation
of
an
undeveloped,
east-west
alley,
right-of-way
within
the
block
bounded
by
southeast
15th
street,
to
the
west
east
railroad
avenue
to
the
north
and
harriet
street
to
the
south.
In
order
to
allow
assembly
of
parcels
for
the
city
of
des
moines
solar
field,
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
tonight
who's
in
opposition
and
would
like
to
hear
this
item
on
the
public
hearing
agenda
tonight?
A
No
okay,
we'll
leave
that
one
on
number
three
request
from
euclid
foresight:
llc
represented
by
connor
delaney
for
vacation
of
the
westernmost
.58
feet
of
an
existing
north
south
alleyway
adjoining
413
euclid
avenue.
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight?
Who's
in
opposition
would
like
to
hear
this
item.
A
Rezoned
property
from
p2
public,
civil,
civic
and
institutional
district,
ex
mixed
use,
district
and
n2b
neighborhood
district
to
n2b
neighborhood
district
to
allow
development
of
the
property
for
one
and
two
household
residential
uses.
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight
who
would
like
to
hear
this
item.
A
Okay,
we
do
have
one,
so
we
will
take
that
off.
Consent
number
five
request
from
kec
investments,
llc
represented
by
ryan
winter
for
review
and
approval
of
a
major
preliminary
platt,
stanton
ridge,
preliminary
plat
on
7.93
acres
of
property
in
the
vicinity
of
2300
stanton
avenue
for
development
of
26
lots
for
one
household
residential
use
uses
along
an
extension
of
emma
avenue.
A
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight
who
would
like
to
hear
this
item
all
right
and
number
six
requests
from
david
and
mindy
got
gasho
for
review
and
approval
of
a
preliminary
platt
broadway
meadows
on
5.08
acres
of
property
in
the
vicinity
of
4393
east
broadway
avenue
for
development
of
three
lots
for
one
household
residential
units.
I
will
mention
that
this
is
on
the
consent
agenda,
but
the
staff
recommendation
is
continue
it
to
august
4th
2022.
A
A
E
E
A
Okay,
so
we'll
leave
that
on
the
consent
agenda,
unless
anybody
on
the
commission
wanted
to
hear
it.
Okay,
I'm
sorry
what
yeah
number
six
right:
okay,
okay,
so
tonight's
consent
agenda
is
number
two.
Three
and
six.
Is
that
correct?
E
G
H
A
D
A
Okay:
okay,
moving
on
first
public
hearing
item
bert
will
present
number
one.
Yes,.
F
F
As
this
commission
knows,
when
the
city
proposes
an
urban
renewal
plan,
this
body
is
charged
with
reviewing
that
proposed
plan
to
make
sure
that
it
conforms
with
the
city's
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
So
chandler
pool
with
the
city's
office
of
economic
development
will
be
giving
the
presentation
tonight,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
him.
D
I
All
right
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
chandler
poole,
I'm
an
economic
development
coordinator
for
the
city
of
des
moines,
and
I
can
walk
you
through
the
urban
renewal
plan
or
the
proposed
urban
renewal
plan
for
east
army
post
road.
I
As
you
see
on
the
on
the
screen
in
front
of
you,
it
is
rather
small
urban
renewal
area
a
little
history
on
this
area.
This
area
was
annexed
into
the
city
in
the
mid
to
late
80s
before
there
was
kind
of
a
rural
fringe
area
of
the
city
or
adjacent
to
the
city.
I
I
We
have
an
opportunity
to
look
at
doing
a
project
in
this
area
on
these
parcels
here,
and
this
urban
renewal
plan
allows
us
to
utilize
a
tool
called
tiff
tax,
increment
financing,
to
help
incentivize
this
area
for
redevelopment
and
provide
an
opportunity
to
look
at
improving
the
infrastructure
that
is
currently
there.
The
road
itself
is
a
rural
street.
That
means
it's
not
very
wide.
Engineering
has
identified
the
street
as
needing
to
be
widened
and
modernized
with
two
lanes,
one
going
each
way
and
a
turn
lane
in
the
middle
for
turning
a
safe
turning
movements.
I
I
So,
there's
definitely
a
need
for
some
public
infrastructure
improvements,
as
well
as
the
opportunity
to
incentivize
a
business
to
hopefully
locate
there
and
bring
a
number
of
jobs
that
we've
been
working
on
currently,
so
it's
rather
small.
It's
not
a
very
big
urban
renewal
area
last
year
came
in
front
of
you
with
the
douglas
avenue
area.
One
was
much
larger,
had
a
much
bigger
area
to
work
on
so
a
little
bit
of
where
we've
come
from.
I
To
get
to
this
point
tonight,
we've
had
neighborhood
meetings,
number
of
two
of
them.
First,
one
was
in
may
working
on
a
neighborhood
meeting
with
the
easter
lake
neighborhood
association
in
regards
to
the
resound
of
the
property
june,
2nd
planning
zoning
commission
to
talk
about
rezoning,
the
property
from
mx
to
i1
june
13.
I
I
we've
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
with
the
neighborhood
in
regards
to
the
plan
itself,
and
that
was
on
june
21st
june
27
city
council
approved
rezone
from
mx
to
i1
and
on
june
28th
we
held
the
public
meeting
with
the
taxing
entities.
That
means
the
dart
the
school
corporation,
the
county,
to
talk
about
the
urban
renewal
plan.
Did
they
have
any
questions
any
sort?
I
We
had
the
county
responded
and
attended
virtually,
and
they
were
supportive
of
the
plan
going
forward
after
this
evening,
we'll
go
in
front
of
the
urban
design
review
board
on
july
12th
for
a
recommendation
of
approval
for
the
plan
and
then,
of
course,
on
july,
18
we'll
go
in
front
of
council
for
the
set
hearing
date,
but
hopefully
they
will
approve
the
urban
renewal
plan.
With
your
recommendation
as
well,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
have
it's
not
a
very
big
area,
so
it's
not
very
complex.
A
C
Hello,
council
and
vice
chairman
jungath
nice,
to
see
you
my
name
is
carol
maher.
I
live
in
ward,
3,
zip
code
50312..
Once
again,
I
don't
think
these
items
should
be
on
consent
right.
One
of
the
bodies
that
is
to
review
this
for
approval
to
give
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
Is
you
and
having
it
on
consent?
I
think,
is
bad
practice.
C
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
raised
my
hand,
so
I
hope
in
the
future,
when
an
urban
renewal
plan
comes
in
front
of
you,
it
doesn't
automatically
land
in
consent
because
you
can't
count
on
me
here
to
come
here
and
be
a
peta.
Also.
As
we
know,
these
addresses
were
on
our
agenda
on
june,
2nd
to
for
a
joni
zoning
change
to
go
to
i1
at
the
at
that
time.
It
was
not
mentioned
that
these
were
going
to
go
into
an
urban
renewal
plan.
C
C
Also
hello,
mr
poole
said
that
there
were
transportation,
says
that
we
need
to
have
four
lanes
of
traffic
plus
a
turn
lane.
There
was
no
mention
of
the
lack
of
sidewalks
that
are
there
today.
It's
a
very
dangerous
road
not
only
to
walk
near
or
ride
a
bike,
but
to
drive
a
car,
which
is
what
I
did
today.
C
It
was
frightening,
so
I
hope,
as
the
city
prioritizes
sidewalks
throughout
the
city,
that
they
lay
down
some
sidewalks
in
that
area,
because
one
of
the
things
that
council
was
so
excited
about
when
they
approved
this
zoning
change
were
the
residents
that
were
going
to
be
able
to
go
right
there
and
work
because
they
live
close
by
well.
They
won't
be
able
to
walk
there,
so
I
hope
you
consider
putting
in
sidewalk
sidewalks.
C
This
is
a
very
small
tiff
and
if
my
calculator
on
my
phone
is
correct
over
20
years
there
will
be
326,
876,
870
dollars
and
fit
tiff
funds
available
over
20
years,
which
is
not
very
much.
The
city
holds
himself
to
75
usage
of
that
which
is
245,
grand
and
change,
and
when
nick
shaw
was
here
on
may
5th,
I
believe
it
was.
C
He
said
that
they
keep
their
funding
stack
to
no
more
than
15
percent
per
project,
which
means
36
772
dollars
will
go
to
a
project
seems
like
an
awful
lot
of
administrivia
for
36
grand
to
go
to
this
company,
or
perhaps
are
they
thinking
about
breaking
their
own
rules
and
giving
more
to
this
company
that
is
going
to
build
a
project
there?
The
only
one
that
I
know
of
that's
going
to
build
a
project
in
this
specially
designed
small
little
urban
design
renewal
plan
for
this
custom
for
this
resident.
C
C
One
of
the
requirements
in
urban
design,
urban
renewal
plan
and
tiff
is
that
there
are
no
code
violations
and
this
applicant
when
he
was
here
said
he
didn't
want
to
fix
the
violations
before
he
did
the
project.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
standoff
as
to
who's
going
to
blink.
First,
on
that,
that's
all
that
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
A
All
right,
seeing
none
the
apple
well,
the
city
can
rebut,
come
up
and
address
the
questions
that
arose.
I
I
This
is
a
very
small
urban
renewal
plan
area.
The
city
has
done
this
in
the
past.
We
have
three
that
we've
already
done.
First,
one
is
a
southwest
42nd
army
post
road
by
the
airport
that
was
done
in
2015,
and
that
was
to
bring
bring
in
and
work
with,
electric
power
products,
ep2
very
successful
project.
I
I
So
we've
done
this
in
the
past,
very
small
urban
renewal
areas
to
try
to
incentivize
a
company
to
come
in
and
make
it
go.
The
numbers
that
were
presented,
yes,
are
correct.
If
nothing
is
built
there,
if
we
are
able
to
build
something
and
move
forward,
that's
how
tiff
works,
then
we
take
the
increment,
that's
generated
beyond
that,
and
that's
what
we'll
be
able
to
use.
I
do
not
have
numbers
like
that
at
this
point
in
time,
because
we
don't
have
a
deal
put
together.
B
I
D
J
I
I
can
answer
the
second
part
first,
and
that
is,
I
would
hope,
so
I
imagine
traffic
is
making
sure
that
we
move
people
properly
and
safely
that
they'll
have
the
plan
for
sidewalks.
I'm
not
the
engineer,
my
conversations
with
traffic
engineering
with
that
this
will
be
a
number
of
years
off.
However,
if
we
don't
have
a
funding
stream
it'll
be
pushed
out.
If
we
have
a
funding
stream
might
be
able
to
accelerate
the
date
as
to
when
we're
able
to
make
the
improvements
happen
along
east
army
post
road.
E
If
I
could,
on
the
I
believe,
for
the
city's
complete
streets
policy,
you
would
have
to
and
I'd
like
to
think
about
indianola
avenue
when
that
was
reconstructed
at
a
it's
probably
been
longer
than
I
remember,
but
it
feels
like
maybe
a
decade
ago
and
and
the
pedestrian
bike
facilities
are
put
in
with
that.
D
A
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
at
this
time
and
open
it
up
to
the
commission
for
discussion.
K
A
Thank
you.
Moving
on
to
item
four
sri
yoshi.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chairs,
ryoshi
chakraborty
planning
staff.
I'm
going
to
give
a
presentation
on
item
number
four,
which
is
a
rezoning
request
for
a
couple
of
parcels
within
the
vicinity
of
southwest
56th
street
southwest
mckinley
avenue
and
waters
avenue.
The
applicant
is
requesting
to
rezone
to
n2b
neighborhood
district
to
allow
single-family
residential
use.
L
This
is
a
really
large
document,
so
it's
just
being
a
little
clunky,
but
here
you
can
see
the
rezoning
area
right
here
here
is
waters
avenue.
These
are
the
two
parcels
for
the
subject
property
and
are
being
proposed
to
be
rezoned.
L
This
map
right
here
provides
you
a
little
bit
more
detail
regarding
the
change
in
the
zoning
and
the
land
use
the
reason
being.
There's
a
few
different
zones.
Zoning
districts
and
land
use
designations
that
overlap
within
the
property.
L
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
portion
to
the
north,
that's
kind
of
yellow
is
already
and
zoned
in
to
be
residential.
This
right
here
is
being
rezoned.
It
being
requested
to
be
rezoned
from
business
park
to
low
density
residential.
L
So
is
this
portion
right
here
to
the
southwest
this
large-ish
white
area
in
the
middle
is
a
airport
development
control
zone
that
covers
a
portion
of
the
property,
and
then
this
little
triangle
here
to
the
south
east
is
the
the
runway
protection
zone,
which
also
has
the
development
control.
So
there's
a
few
different
parts
here
that
are
being
proposed
to
be
rezoned.
L
The
the
summary
of
this
is
that
all
of
the
the
portions
here
are
going
to
are
being
requested
to
be
rezoned
to
n2b,
except
for
this
small
outlet.
Right
here
that's
been
identified
in
the
large-scale
development
plan
and
that's
essentially
the
runway
protection
zone.
That
is
not
developable.
As
per
the
regulations
of
the
airport,.
L
L
L
The
applicant
at
at
this
time
is
proposing
to
develop
the
northern
parcel.
So
you
can
see
the
layout
here
the
proposed
layout
for
for
the
parcel.
There
are
currently
no
plans
to
develop
the
southern
parcel,
but,
as
per
our
large-scale
development
plan
requirements,
contiguous
parcels
belonging
to
the
same
landowner
have
to
be
included
in
the
large-scale
development
plan
and,
as
as
a
result
has
been
shown
in
this
plan.
L
As
well
as
the
rezoning
proposal,
the
undevel
developable
outlot
that
falls
within
the
runway
protection
zone
is
shown
right
here
in
the
in
the
plan
as
well.
L
Staff
has
reviewed
the
the
rezoning
request
and
we
believe
that
the
rezoning
request
to
residential
to
n2b
and
residential
users
appropriate
for
this
area.
There
are
some
conditions
that
need
to
be
adhered
to,
and
therefore
staff
has
worked
with
the
applicant
and
been
in
communication
with
the
the
des
moines
international
airport
to
ensure
that
any
future
development
that
happens
is
concurs
with
all
the
necessary
regulations
in
place
and
therefore
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
rezoning
with
six
zoning
conditions
and
I'm
going
to
zoom
in
a
little
bit.
L
It's
not
the
computer,
is
it's
not
frozen,
but
it's
not
connecting
to
the.
L
All
right,
so
these
are
the
six
zoning
conditions
and
staff
has
worked
with
the
applicant
to
go
over
each
one
of
them
and
staff
and
the
applicant
are
in
agreement
essentially
in.
In
summary,
the
the
zoning
conditions
pertain
to
the
future
development
of
the
of
the
parcels.
L
Ensuring
the
designated
runway
protection
zone
is
identified,
as
you
may
have
seen
in
the
in
the
land
use
map
that
I
showed
earlier.
There
are
with
this
particular
rezoning
and
land
use
plan
amendment
the
the
area,
the
significant
area
that
falls
under
the
the
development
control
zone
will
be
rezoned
to
residential
and
will
be
the
land
use.
Designation
will
will
change
to
residential.
However,
however,
there
are
other
surrounding
land
owners
that
still
will
have
that
development
control,
designation
and
so
a
land
use
map.
L
Amendment
will
be
initiated
by
the
city
in
the
future
to
remove
or
modify
any
of
those
development
control
zone
out
of
the
future
land
use
map
designation
and
again
to
clarify
the
reason
is
that
the
airport
had
updated
their
runway
protection
zone
area,
which
is
why
that
needs
to
be
updated
in
the
in
the
land,
use
plan
and
there's
other
conditions
here
that
pertain
to
the
the
outdoor
sound
levels
and
making
sure
appropriate
mitigations
are
met
in
order
to
address
that
the
noise
and
navigation
easements
need
to
be
worked
out
as
per
the
requirement
of
the
airport.
L
There's
also
conditions
on
connecting
to
the
to
the
public,
water
and
sanitary
sewer,
as
well
as
dedication
of
the
right-of-way
for
the
future
south
southwest
56th
street
alignment,
which
was
real
aligned
as
a
result
of
the
the
runway
protection
zone
at
the
south
east
corner
of
the
of
the
parcel.
L
So
that's
the
summary
of
the
zoning
conditions
that
staff
is
recommending
with
the
approval.
I
did
have
a
summary
of
the
neighborhood
meeting
that
the
applicant
did
as
well
as
we
received
a
couple
comment
cards
in
support
of
the
rezoning
from
adjacent
landowners.
So
those
are
the
additional
items
I
had
in
my
presentation,
but
if
you
have
any
questions
I'll
be
happy
to
take
them
at
this
time.
L
So
the
the
it
doesn't
have
a
precise
address.
It
is
bounded
by
waters
avenue
to
the
north,
southwest
56
to
the
to
the
east
and
then
southwest
mckinley
to
the
south
and
just
to
align
you,
the
the
waldinger
corporation,
is
to
the
to
the
west
and
southwest
63rd
street
beyond
that.
So
if
that
gives
you
an
idea.
E
Will
do
you
want
to
see
if
I
can
answer
your
question,
what
why
they.
J
E
M
M
Really
was
so
that
area
is
in,
like
is
a
bleed
out
area
for
the
airport.
Is
that
specifically
just
for
safety,
or
is
that
for
redevelopment
and
expansion
of
the
airport.
L
Yeah
so
there's
there's
a
future
runway
proposed
and
which
is
why
the
the
airport
has
identified
a
runway
protection
zone
associated
with
that
runway,
and
so
there's
additional
regulations
that
apply
in
terms
of
whether
it's
development
or
noise.
You
know
there
has
to
be
mitigation
in
order
to
reduce
the
amount
of
noise
and
it
as
the
closer
you
are
to
the
runway
protection
zone.
The
the
regulations
are
higher,
so.
L
But
the
but
the
very
corner
the
the
outlet
x
that
I
was
talking
about,
which
is
the
south
east
corner
of
the
parcel.
That
is
where
there
can
be
no.
F
I
think
justin
to
answer
your
question
really.
The
reason
we're
here
tonight
is
that
the
airport
has
reconfigured
their
future
plans.
So
if
you
look
at
this
area
right
here
was
a
future
runway.
That's
not
there
today,
but
right
now,
there's
the
runway
that
goes
north
east
to
southwest
and
then
from
northwest
to
southeast
there's
plans
to
add
a
third
runway
here,
and
their
plans
have
now
shortened
that
runway.
So
this
area
up
here
is
no
longer
needed
for
a
future
runway
protection
zone.
F
So,
what's
like
this
trapezoid
shape
required,
whatever
you
call
it
shape
is
now
able
to
slide
to
the
southeast,
which
frees
up
the
subject
property
for
12
months.
But
as
the
map
that
shows
she'll
show
you,
the
future
airport
runway
control
zone
does
clip
just
the
extreme
south,
west
or
southeast
corner
of
the
subject.
Property.
M
Concern
because
I
knew
the
development
was
going
to
take
place
and
noticing
that
it
does
clip
part
of
that
property.
I
didn't
know
if
that
would
be
a
problem
for
the
airport's
development
and
then
would
it
be
a
hindrance
to
the
potential
residents
living
there,
but
as
long
as
long
as
it
meets
spec
and
it's
okay.
That
was
my
only
only
concern.
L
Yeah
the
the
runway
protection
zone
is,
is
the
area
that
fa
the
federal
aviation
administration
describes
as
the
area
which
might
be
prone
to
if
there
is
a
airplane
crash
or
something
while
landing
or
taking
off,
there's
a
potential
risk,
so
there's
a
kind
of
a
buffer
that
goes
beyond
the
runway
area,
which
is
the
identified
as
the
runway
protection
zone
yeah
and
here's
the
the
corner.
L
That
bert
was
talking
about
that's
with
the
updated
airport
plan.
This
is
the
only
corner
that
falls
within
the
runway
protection
zone.
Now
for
this,
for
these
two
parcels,
there's
other
parcels
adjacent
parcels
that
have
portions
of
the
runway
protection
zone
going
through
them,
but
for
these
two
parcels,
that's
where
that's
the
only
corner
and.
L
M
L
L
The
the
applicant
can
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
from
what
we
understand,
they
don't
have
any
intention
at
the
moment
to
develop
this
area,
but
if,
in
the
future
they
do
develop
this
area
they
would
like
to,
they
would
probably
do
low
density
residential,
so
the
n2v
zone
would
be
more
appropriate
than
p2
or
ex
district.
D
A
N
I'm
paul
claussen
civil
engineering
consultants,
2486th
street
unit
12
in
urbandale
iowa,
just
to
hit
on
a
few
things
that,
with
the
vicinity
of
this
to
the
airport,
there
is
that
noise
navigation
easement,
which
sets
restrictions
and
building
requirements
and
also
elevation
requirements
for
the
glide
paths,
for
the
airplanes,
which
is
why
we're
not
proposing
any
development
with
this
large
scale
development
plan
on
that
south
portion.
There's
really
too
many
limitations
with
the
elevations
to
build
a
house
in
that
property.
N
But
when,
with
going
through
the
staff
comments,
it
required
any
properties,
adjacent
properties
with
the
same
owner
to
go
through
the
large-scale
development
plan
and
we
figured
we'd
throw
that
property
into
the
rezoning
just
so
that
the
existing
structures
were
in
compliance
with
the
with
zoning.
N
A
Seeing
no
questions,
sarah,
anyone
in
from
the
public
tonight
who
would
like
to
speak
in
support
of
this
development
or
is
there
anyone
who's
neutral?
Who
would
like
to
speak
all
right?
Anyone
who
is
in
opposition,
you
may
speak
now
come
forward
put
your
sign
in
name
and
address,
and
you
have
five
minutes.
C
Hi
carol,
maher
ward,
3,
zip
code
50312.,
the
the
gentleman
just
mentioned,
the
height
limitation.
One
of
my
concerns
was
going
to
be.
We
are
in
desperate
need
of
housing
in
des
moines
and
building
more
single-family
residences
on
these
large
lots
seems
a
little
lot
of
whack.
For
for
that,
so
I
was
wondering,
if
perhaps
I
believe
it's
n3a
might
be
a
more
appropriate
zoning
change
to
allow
for
more
density
in
that
area.
C
There
are
a
lot
of
jobs
nearby
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
would
like
to
live
there
and
work
nearby
there.
So
I'm
wondering
why
we
wouldn't
consider
putting
more
homes
in
that
location
due
to
its
great
access
to
the
airport
and
jobs,
jobs
at
the
airport
and
jobs
in
other
places.
Also
southwest
5th
southwest
56
is
really
hazardous,
and
I
hope
that
the
city
is
considering
soon
to
deal
with
the
drop
off
on
each
side.
No
sidewalks
lots
of
trucks
stuff
like
that.
It's
it's
not
safe
for
anyone.
Also.
C
I
want
to
remind
this
developer
about
the
impervious
percentages
that
are
allowed
in
the
front
yard.
I
believe
they've
been
in
front
of
this
body
before
asking
for
exceptions
for
three-car
garages,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
is
reminded
and
known,
and
it
would
be
really
great
if
the
developer
was
committing
to
all
electric
houses.
C
All
electric
buildings
saves
you
money
from
not
having
to
run
a
gas
line,
and
it
really
is
climate
friendly
for
for
the
world
for
the
city
and
it's
such
an
opportunity
when
you're
building
from
scratch
to
build
nice
houses
multi-family
units-
hopefully
that
are
all
electric
that
are
better
for
everyone,
including
the
owner.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
seeing
none
the.
N
Paul
claussen
again
just
we
went
with
the
n2b
zoning,
because
that's
consistent
with
the
adjacent
development
to
the
north
in
the
vicinity
and
staff
was
on
board
with
that
proposal,
and
two
of
the
three
existing
houses
are
all
electric,
but
no
word
on
any
commitments
to
the
future
developments.
I
know
that
mid-american
energy
does
incentivize
to
go
all-electric,
but
that's
that
has
not
been
discussed.
A
Okay,
sorry,
I
have
a
question
as
part
of
this
to
allow
the
development
of
the
property
for
one
and
two
household
residential
uses
is.
That
is
that
the
intention
is
to
build
both
one
and
two.
E
E
A
N
Yeah,
just
one
thing:
could
we
keep
that
n2b
dash
too,
with
to
have
an
option
for
the.
E
We
didn't
notice
that
I'm
sorry,
let
me
turn
my
mic
on.
I
don't
believe
we
actually
noticed
for
the
n2b
dash
2.,
it's
just
in
the
body
of
the
report
and
agenda
the
way
it
got
drafted.
It's
probably
a
save,
as
the
n2b,
which
was
what
was
on
your
application,
is
just
allow
single
family
there's
a
variation
of
that
district.
That's
called
dash,
2
or
dash
4.,
I
don't
believe,
did
we
notice
we
didn't
notice
for
the
dash
too
we'd
have
to
start
over
again.
I
guess
I'm
getting
that.
E
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
I
apologize
for
the
typo
in
the
confusion,
but
the
the
text,
the
actual
district
of
what
we
notice
is
just
the
single
family.
M
N
J
I
have
another
question,
then,
for
you
before
you
leave,
are
you
perfectly
satisfied
with
the
explanation
that
jason
gave
to
you?
As
far
as
the
typo
was
concerned,.
O
O
So
I
I
honestly
was
planning
to
do
something
like
that.
What
paul
showed
you?
There
was
just
kind
of
the
throw
a
sketch
up
where.
O
E
E
E
Suggest
well
I,
what
I
would
like
to
suggest
is:
maybe
we
just
get
this
on
the
like
move,
this
forward,
get
it
on
the
books
and
then,
if
you're
playing
if
you're
is
you
want
to
tweak
something?
I
mean.
Obviously
we
had
a
speaker
tonight
that
was
pushing
density
and
we
wouldn't
be
opposed
to
that
as
staff.
If
it's
done
right
so
okay,
but
I
would
need
to
continue
it,
we
would
need
to
update
the
larger
scale
development
plan
and
I
just
think
it
slows
you
down.
O
A
A
P
All
right,
we
can
try
to
finagle
a
little
bit
nick
tarpey
planning
staff
all
right
so
item
five,
we're
looking
at
preliminary
plat
2300
stanton
avenue
for
a
division
of
land
subdivisions
about
7.9
acres
right
now,
they'd
be
turning
it
into
26
lots
for
residential
development,
it'd
be
all
one
household
residential
uses
through
here.
P
So
here's
a
aerial
image
of
the
subject
property.
So
this
is
it's
currently
two
parcels
right
now,
combined
about,
like
I
said
before,
about
7.9
acres.
If
you
follow
my
cursor
to
the
right
over
here,
this
is
fleur
drive.
So
a
lot
of
commercial
uses
some
a
little
bit
heavier
residential
uses,
apartments
things
like
that
and
then,
as
you
go
further
to
the
west,
it's
mostly
single
family
type
uses
to
the
south
is
the
airport.
P
So
that's
this
is
that
a
lot
of
those
easements
and
stuff
that
shiroshi
was
just
talking
about
actually
exist
to
the
south
here.
This
is
emma
avenue
here
as
part
of
this
plat
m
avenue,
which
is
a
public
street,
would
get
extended
and
it
would
basically
curve
up
and
kind
of
flow,
with
the
property
lines
and
hook
up
to
stanton
avenue
up
here.
We'll
take
a
look
at
that
later.
P
P
All
right,
so
here's
basically
pretty
much
a
basic
layout
of
what
they
want
to
do.
As
you
can
see,
here's
the
street
extension
street
extension
here
the
cul-de-sac
would
get
reconstructed
to
basically
mirror
a
typical
public
street.
Section
residential
street
section
in
the
city
of
des
moines
street
would
curve
all
the
way
up
here
to
stanton
avenue.
Here's
all
the
lots
26
slots
like
I
said
earlier.
Each
of
them
are
going
to
be
larger
than
8
000
square
feet.
So
these
are
relatively
large
single
family
type.
Lots
here.
P
A
couple
of
the
conditions
that
I
did
want
to
note
as
we
dig
into
the
staff
recommendation
from
a
staff
end.
I
don't
know
if
I
mentioned
it
at
the
outset,
but
the
zoning
of
this
property
is
n3a
neighborhood
district.
That
would
necessitate
a
house
type
b.
So
as
one
of
the
conditions
for
future
development
on
this
plat,
all
the
homes
will
be
developed
with
that
house
type
b,
architectural
style
in
terms
of
building
siting
building
materials.
That
sort
of
thing
additionally,
another
thing
public
sidewalks
are
required
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
P
We
made
that
a
condition
of
approval
and
that
will
be
required
as
part
of
the
public
improvements
terms
of
utility
hookups.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
extend
existing
public
utilities
and
tap
into
those
and
enhance
that
public
infrastructure,
so
in
terms
of
their
sanitary
sewer,
their
storm
sewer,
as
well
as
the
water
service
it'll,
be
provided
for
within
emma
avenue
and
then
also
connecting
to
existing
off-site
city
infrastructure
that
exists
out
to
the
east.
P
A
D
P
P
K
Over
on
this
side
head-
oh
this
garage
right
here.
This
was
a
single
parcel
all
the
way
back
to
here
and
has
since
been
re-platted
back
to
this
line.
So
as
part
of
that
replanting
process,
this
owner
removed
this
garage
back
to
the
property
line,
so
it
shows
up
on
here
it's
removed.
Now
it's
been
replated
so
that
it
can
be
encompassed
in
this
new
development.
K
K
One
of
the
primary
things
I
wanted
to
point
out,
for
was
the
utilities.
The
plan
is
to
extend
water
main
from
emma
all
the
way
through
and
up
to
stanton
sanitary
is
actually
located
all
the
way
down
to
the
east
and
we're
at
the
bottom
of
the
world
down
here.
So
the
way
we're
pulling
in
sanitary
is
through
the
airport
property
up
into
the
development
in
order
to
facilitate
servicing
all
of
these
new
lots.
K
K
I
know
one
of
the
homeowners
on
this
corner
is
here
in
attendance
that
we
talked
to
earlier
before
the
meeting
started.
There's
a
small
detention
facility-
that's
located
there,
currently
all
of
the
storm
runoff
from
emma
avenue
on
both
sides
of
the
street
pools
and
is
facilitated
into
this
right
now,
along
with
the
runoff
that
comes
from
the
back
of
the
homes
as
part
of
this
we're
pushing
through
m
avenue.
K
So
all
of
that
drainage
that
was
directed
into
their
pond
will
now
continue
into
the
storm
infrastructure
and
through
the
street,
down
to
our
new
pond
down.
Here,
we
won't
be
able
to
get
rid
of
this
facilitate
facility,
as
it
directs
all
of
the
runoff
from
the
back
of
the
yards
behind
and
through,
but
we'll
be
able
to
mitigate
and
reduce
substantially
the
amount
of
water.
That's
able
to
sit
and
stand
here
in
today's
conditions.
K
I
know
they
were
talking
about
having
some
issues
with
the
existing
pipe
that
might
be
out
there
right
now
might
be
plugged
or
it
might
not
be
functioning
as
it
does
today.
So
as
part
of
these
improvements,
we're
taking
that
out
and
just
facilitating
a
way
to
provide
the
runoff
a
path
to
go
to
our
new
detention
facility.
K
A
Q
Well,
hopefully
you
can
hear
me
here:
my
name
is
sean
mcveigh,
I'm
at
2400
emma,
which
is
at
the
end
of
the
cul-de-sac
where
the
retention
area
was
where
he
was
speaking
of.
I
guess
he
answered
a
lot
of
questions.
My
only
concern
was
one
was
we
were
getting
a
lot
of
water
in
there
and
back
up
and
we've
over
the
years
have
dealt
with
that
and
and
we
have
a
sump
pump
and
we
have
a
backup,
sump
pump.
Q
Q
My
concern
at
this
point
would
be
if
the
pit
has
to
be
there,
it's
about
six
foot
deep,
I
think
without
measuring
it.
You
know
it
could
be
a
potential
safety
thing.
You
know.
I've
over
the
years
have
helped
landscape
around
it
and
put
rocks
in
it,
but
with
the
potential
addition
of
a
lot
of
kids
in
that
neighborhood.
The
reason
we
moved
there
was
that
cul-de-sac,
it's
a
great
little
place
for
kids,
but
with
more
kids
and
stuff
coming
into
the
area,
is.
B
Q
Anything
that
can
be
done
or
thought
about
done
about
making
it
a
little
safer.
You
know
so
nobody
will
get.
You
know
fall
down
in
there
also,
along
with
that
I've
I've
built
a
little
retaining
wall
to
help
hold
the
dirt
back
against
my
property
from
sliding
down
into
this
area.
That's
a
concern.
It's
it's!
It's
starting
to
bow
now!
Q
You
know!
Is
there
something
that
can
be
done
to
develop
that
to
to
hold
that
a
nicer
to
make
it
look?
Aesthetically,
you
know
nice,
so
it
so
it
blends
into
the
neighborhood,
I'm
a
I'm
a
homeowner
landscaper,
I'm
not
a
professional.
So
that's
that
would
be
my
concern
with
the
water
runoff
and
I
think
they
can
explain
that.
My
my
main
concern
again
would
be
you
know
the
safety
aspect
of
it.
I've
got
boulders
and
rocks
starting
to
slide
down
their
mouth.
So
I
appreciate
your
time.
A
E
G
G
I
know
the
southern
hills:
neighborhood
association.
It
says
here
that
george
davis
was
notified
in
june.
We
never
received
anything
until
after
the
4th
of
july.
That
was
the
first
we
knew
about
this
really.
We
just
would
like
to
know
the
price
range
as
a
neighbor
and
a
realtor.
Obviously
we're
excited
for
single
family
homes
and
as
the
board,
we
do
support
this
development.
A
R
Hello,
my
name
is
jason,
bruce
I'm
representing
the
owner
and
I'm
also
the
contractor
on
the
project.
I've
met
with
some
of
the
people
in
the
neighborhood,
as
well
already
so
I'm
kind
of
familiar
face,
addressing
the
what's
going
to
actually
happen
in
the
in
the
in
the
development.
As
far
as
building
and
the
price
points,
it
will
be
an
open
to
realtors
and
open
to
builders,
but
the
hope
the
price
of
the
cove
or
the
of
the
neighborhood
will
be
in
that
lower
below
300
range.
R
So
that's,
you
know
single-family
homes,
not
anything
low-income,
not
anything
at
a
lower
price
point,
but
that
medium
price
point
that'll
support
the
south
side
of
des
moines,
so
that
answers
everybody's
questions
on
that.
A
But
if
the
owner
would
like
to
make
any
further
comments
in
response
to
the
questions
raised,.
D
F
E
Justin,
if
I
could,
I
mean
I
think
you,
you
noted
a
little
bit
about
what,
in
your
presentation,
will
take
some
of
the
water
pressure
off
of
that
with
the
street
extension,
but
there's
some
stuff
that
will
still
on
the
backyards
come
through.
But
I
guess
one
thing
that
I
wondered
is
and
listening
to
the
question
is
how
much
conversation
you've
had
with
our
engineering
staff
about
any
modifications.
K
K
The
only
way
to
necessarily
get
rid
of
it
is
to
extend
the
pipe
all
the
way
to
the
back
of
the
property
more
in
line
with
where
the
I'll
call
it
a
ditch
along
the
back
of
the
homes
is
going
any
attempt
to
kind
of
fill
that
in
without
any
infrastructure,
extending
back
is
just
blocking
the
water
and
forcing
it
to
stand
there.
So,
unfortunately,
it's
got
a
lower
point
on
the
back
of
the
of
the
homes.
E
Okay,
I
was
just
in
those
conversations
with
our
engineering
staff.
I
didn't
know
if
the
changes
you
were
making
if,
if
at
any
point
there
was
any
thought
that
modifications
could
be
made
to
this
after
you
pull
out,
or
I
mean
I
know,
that's
probably
not
the
the
net.
You
know
like
the
focus
of
your
conversations
with
our
staff.
K
We
don't
have
a
number
to
put
on
it,
but
there
could
be
opportunities
to
to
clean
it
up,
reshape
it
a
little
bit
dress
it
up
a
little
nicer.
K
I
know
they
had
some
maintenance
issues,
so
if
there
was
some
lower
maintenance,
more
prairie
grass
or
something
I
mean
that
whole
east
side
of
there
is
a
is
a
drainage
easement,
that's
connected
to
the
back
of
the
lot
so
that
they
don't
really
have
the
opportunity
to
do
anything
from
a
development
standpoint.
But
if
they
there
was
an
improvement
that
was
provided
some
improvement
to
the
drainage
and
also
provided
lower
maintenance
or
issues.
We
could
work
with
city
staff
to
see
what
we
can
do
there.
Okay.
E
J
I
have
a
question
about
if
something
does
go
wrong
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
talked
with
with
a
neighbor,
but
I
would
really
recommend
that
you
have
a
conversation
one-on-one.
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
if
the
neighbors
wants
that.
But
my
question
is
you
know
if
something
goes
wrong,
what
kind
of
liability
is
the
developer
under
as.
K
Goes
wrong,
as
in
far
as
what
well
with
the
drainage
as
far
as
filling
up
and
having
a
place
to
go,
is
that
what
you're
asking
yeah
we
are
providing
a
larger
pipe
that
provides
more
capacity
and
we're
taking
more
runoff
away.
So
there
shouldn't
be
a
problem
that
we're
creating
if,
for
some
reason,
the
pipe
were
to
plug
like
we
always
plan
for
worst
case
scenarios,
it
would
over
top
to
the
street
and
we're
also
providing
a
swale
along
the
backsides
of
15
14,
13,
12
and
11.
K
That
helps
take
an
additional
storm
water
detention
facility
to
south
away
from
these
properties
too.
So
an
overflow
path
will
be
provided
so
that,
if
it
were
to
plug
and
the
runoff
had
nowhere
to
go,
it
would
not
flood
the
houses
it
would
overflow
in
a
manner
which
is
standard
practice
for
how
we
design
subdivisions
like
this.
P
L
D
H
H
H
H
They
would
also
be
widening
the
driveway
approach
to
accommodate
that
24
foot
wide
driveway,
so
it
would
be
24
feet
wide
at
the
property
line
and
then
it
would
flare
out
to
30
feet
at
the
curb
line.
H
H
Some
of
those
staff
has
supported
that
those
expansions
up
to
40
percent,
I
think,
is
the
highest
that
staff
has
supported.
So
this
exceeds
kind
of
that
threshold
that
we've
supported
in
the
past.
So
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
that.
H
H
Yeah,
so
we
would
be
comfortable
with
them
expanding,
not
the
the
full
14
feet,
but
expanding
an
additional
eight
and
a
half
or
19
feet.
So
obviously
that
would
bring
that
width
down
on
their
private
property,
but
we
would
also
match
the
drive
approach
to
that
width
so
that
the
I
think
that's
your
question
is
the
drive
approach
would
be
18
and
a
half
or
19
feet
wide.
Then
you
would
have
that
flare
for
an
additional
two
or
three
feet
that
you
typically
see
on
those
drive
approaches.
H
S
Howard
ross
2010
east
41st
street
the
request
to
do
this
is
because
I
want
to
extend
the
porch
and
have
the
driving
the
porch
is
14
foot
off
the
side
of
the
house
so
to
match
that
I'd
like
to
bring
the
drive
out.
I
don't
have
to
go
the
whole
way
to
the
street
that
way,
but
to
match
at
the
driveway
to
the
porch.
I
think
it
would
look
unusual
to
be
having
eight
foot
and
the
porch
come
out
to
14.
E
Kyle,
do
you
want
to
flip
the
slide
back
to
the
one
that
shows
the
picture
with
the
house
and
the
just?
I
think
it
might
help.
E
S
Yes,
I'd
like
to
have
the
additional
parking
there,
where
the
10
foot,
if
you
park
in
the
middle
of
the
driveway
half
the
time,
if
you
don't
get
exactly
in
the
center
you're,
either
walking
in
the
mud
on
either
side
at
10
foot.
So
I
would
like
to
have
at
least
10
foot
next
to
this
drive
to,
I
don't
think
eight
foot
would
parking
would
be.
You
know
suitable
to
get.
E
Around
it
is
the
so
I'm
sorry,
just
one
more
question
14
feet
would
get
you
to
the
corner
of
the
back
corner
of
the
porch
or
to
that
stone
that
shows
up
in
the
drawing
which
really
looks
like
it's
past
the
porch,
the
corner
of
the.
S
House
to
the
existing
porch,
there
is
14
foot,
okay,
so
the
red
line-
jogs.
Yes,
no,
it's
actually
just
lined
up
with
and
that's
right
at
the
back
of
the
door
when
you
open
the
door
open.
It
goes
to
the
railing,
which
I
would
leave
the
railing
on
that
and
then
just
extend
the
front
and
the
side
as
stairs
going
into
it.
A
H
J
A
O
O
E
Well,
and
to
be
honest
with
you,
you
might
like
what
we
had
recommended.
A
staff
is
just
like
a
square
footage
number
and
you
might
actually
depend
on
how
you
tapered
this
that
might
have
worked
within
that
square
footage
number.
But
I
think
if
the
commission
you
could,
we
could
approve
the
request
subject
to
provide
you
know
providing
a
taper
down
to
the
origin.
You
know
to
the
current
width
at
the
property
line,
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
plan
administrator
and
we
just
would
work
with
them,
so
that
makes
sense.
A
S
A
D
A
Did
you
hear
him,
okay,
dory?
How
do
you
vote
yes?
Okay.
Thank
you.
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passes
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zero.
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