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From YouTube: 4-10-23 City Council
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Des Moines City Council regular meeting on Monday, April 10, 2023.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
A
Be
it
therefore
signed
that
signage
will
be
spread
around
to
encourage
and
be
placed
in
The
Lawns
of
the
participants
and
now
therefore,
I
mayor,
the
city
of
Des
Moines,
on
behalf
of
our
city
council
and
all
of
our
residents
of
Des
Moines,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
May
2023
as
Nomo
May
and
encourage
all
of
our
citizens
to
observe
this
great
event.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
we're
gonna
try
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible.
This
is
our
April
10th
meeting.
This
particular
meeting
before
the
start
of
our
city
council
meeting
is
going
to
be
the
municipal
housing
agency
governing
board
I'm,
going
to
call
a
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
please
take
role.
County.
A
A
A
A
Item
six
is
approving
the
annual
agency
plan
for
the
fiscal
year,
beginning
July,
1st
of
2023,
to
include
the
2023
Capital
Improvement
Grand
and
the
public
housing
in
admissions
in
continued
occupancy
policy,
the
family
self-sufficiency
action
plan
and
Section
8
housing,
Choice
voucher
administrative
plan.
This
was
a
board
Communication
number.
C
A
F
A
All
right
and
just
make
sure
everybody
understands
that
this
is
April
10th.
Are
you
good
all
right
he's
good
all
right
item
two
is
approving
the
agenda
as
presented
and
or
as
amended
move.
A
second
I
will
quickly
mention
a
couple
of
things.
We
have
item
41.
It
was
added
it's
consideration
of
a
five-day
Class
C
liquor
license
beer
wine
for
the
great
Caterers
of
Iowa
for
the
Ronald
McDonald
House
fundraiser
on
April
20th
of
2023
and
I
sponsored
that
other
than
that.
G
G
D
A
All
right,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
die
any
opposition
hearing.
None,
let's
go
to
item
three
item.
Three
is
improving
the
consent
agenda
tonight.
Those
are
items
three
through
fifty
four
generally.
These
are
routine
items
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
rule
called
vote
without
separate
discussion.
Unless,
pursuant
to
the
council
rules,
the
council
requests
an
item
be
removed
to
be
considered
separately.
This
evening,
I'm
gonna
vote
no
on
item
five
and
councilmember
Gatto
wishes
to
speak
on
item
43.
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A
A
A
Quickly
for
our
hearing
items
this
evening,
the
hearings
we
have
two
conveyance
hearings
for
zoning
hearings,
items
57
to
60,
one
HUD
hearing
one
license
hearing
three
budget
hearings
and
one
public
Improvement
hearing
as
a
reminder
for
the
zoning
items,
only
we're
going
to
ask
the
people
and
the
parties
in
interest
to
speak
first
and
that's
either
the
applicant
or
anybody
that
lives
within
250
feet
that
has
been
noticed
by
the
city.
After
all,
the
parties
in
interest
have
commented.
We'll
then
open
it
up
to
anybody.
A
Member
of
the
public
for
Germaine
comments
to
Aiden
recognizing
those
parties
in
interest
who
may
speak
I
will
request
everyone
else
not
step
to
the
microphone
unless
they
are
one
of
those
parties
and
anyone
who
approaches
the
mic
that
is
not
is
going
to
be
won't,
be
recognized
not
only
for
that
item,
but
the
remainder
of
the
meeting
and
will
be
required
to
lead
for
the
HUD
and
budget
hearings.
Any
interested
person
may
make
Jermaine
comments
at
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
for
all
other
hearings.
A
This
evening,
any
interested
person
may
make
Jermaine
comments
Ed
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
per
hearing
unless
the
hearing
is
added
sooner
or
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
Germain
public
comments
or
when
come
NCS
as
a
reminder
on
the
public
Improvement
items
only
comments
as
to
the
plan,
specifications,
form
of
documents
and
Engineers
estimate
and
low
bidder
designation
will
be
considered
germane.
So
with
that,
let's
quickly
move
into
our
hearing
items
and
let's
note.
A
That
it's
509
that
we
start
item
55,
is
on
the
conveyance
of
a
portion
of
vacated,
41st,
Street,
located
east
of
and
adjoining
4126
Ingersoll
Avenue
to
Plymouth
Congregational
Church
foundation
for
90
890,
Council,
Communication
number
23-181
and
we'll
quickly
open
it
up
and
see.
If
there
are
any
Germaine
comments
from
the
General
Public.
A
A
A
I
Good
evening,
Abby
Gilroy
with
neighborhood
Development
Corporation
2331
University
Avenue,
just
stopping
in
we've,
held
some
neighborhood
meetings,
our
Planning
and
Zoning
hearings
prior
to
this
evening
and
have
had
a
lot
of
support.
We
did
address
any
concerns
that
were
happening
kind
of
around
the
site
and
adjacent
to
the
project,
but
really
excited
for
the
Redevelopment
of
this.
It's
been
a
long
time
coming.
I
A
D
D
A
J
A
Item
58
item
58,
is
on
the
request
of
TB
building
LLC
Stephen
Rooney
is
the
officer
to
amend,
planned
DSM,
creating
our
tomorrow
plan
to
revise
the
future
land
use
classification
from
low
density,
residential
to
Business,
Park
and
rezone
1202
Thomas
Beck
Road
from
nx1
neighborhood
District
2
ex
mixed-use
District
to
allow
multiple
uses,
including
a
religious
assembly,
fabrication
and
production
in
an
office,
choose
one
alternative
below
a
would
be
to
approve
one.
The
first
consideration:
the
ordinance
above
two
is
the
final
consideration.
A
K
Hi
Stephen
Rooney
1202
Thomas
back
road,
yeah,
okay,
I've
purchased
this
building
about
a
year
ago,
oh
I,
rented
it
from
the
previous
owner.
The
printer
ink
then
there's
a
foreclosure
I
took
it
over
with
the
transition
and
rented
it
from
the
bank.
After
that,
and
then
became
the
owner
last
year,
when
made
the
purchase
the
biggest
purchase
of
my
life
and
after
that
I,
it's
a
60,
000
square
foot,
building
I
ended
up
renting
it
to
a
cabinet
maker
part
of
it.
K
My
business
occupy
occupies
about
25
000
square
feet
of
the
sixty
thousand
square
feet,
I
rented
part
of
it
to
a
cabinet
maker
and
then
another
7,
000
square
feet
or
so
I
rented
two,
a
Hispanic
Church
of
about
80
people,
I
realized
I,
got
the
cart
in
front
of
the
horse
with
not
rezoning
it
first.
So
my
appeal
today
is
just
to
try
to
get
the
property
rezoned
so
that
I
could
keep
my
commitments
to
my
current
tenants
and
provide
more
jobs
in
the
Des
Moines
area.
K
K
I
know
it's
not
the
five-story
high
rises,
that's
in
the
plan,
but
I'm
sort
of
at
the
end
of
the
area
where
I
think
across
the
street
there's
going
to
be
commercial
buildings.
My
spot
is
a
commercial
building.
That's
a
Precast
building
that
I
think
as
well
as
as
long
as
it's
well
maintained.
It's
going
to
survive
quite
a
long
time,
so
I
don't
think
it's
too
economical.
It's
I've
ran
the
numbers.
K
So
my
My
Hope
Is
that
I
could
re-zone
this
in
order
to
not
have
to
go
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustments
and
then
potentially
have
my
back
up
against
the
wall
and
based
on
some
language
that
I
know
that
they
would
be
familiar
with
is
I
couldn't
couldn't
get
a
reasonable
return
for
the
building
based
on
chapter
135
6.7.7
says
the
zoning
board.
Adjustments
has
to.
K
The
subject
property
cannot
yield
a
reasonable
return
from
any
use
permitted
by
the
subject.
Zoning
regulations-
and
so
my
hope
is
that
I
could
get
this
rezone
so
that
I
don't
fall
into
that
tough
spot.
And
if
that
is
not
the
case,
would
I
be
able
to
get
some
sort
of
continuance
or
opportunity
so
that
I
don't
have
to
wait
12
months
to
come
back
here
again,
I
think
it's
a
good
piece
of
fabric
of
what's
been
around
and
could
be
implemented
well
into
the
future.
Oh
go
ahead.
H
But
I
mean
we
can
it'd
be
great
to
have
staff,
come
up
and
answer
your
questions,
but
we've
talked
the
issue
that
you
have
and
you
will
I
think
have
a
very,
very
good
case.
We
can't
speak
for
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment,
but
have
a
very
good
case
to
get
that
variance
so
that
you
can
fill
the
building
because
you
cannot,
as
the
building
exists,
fill
the
building
without
having
that
ability
to
allow
these
uses
and
run
for
tenants.
H
We
we
had
a
chance
to
have
a
conversation
and
I
know
you're,
really
nervous
about
the
zoning
Board
of
adjustment
process.
We
want.
We
want
you
to
be
successful,
we
get
the
issue
with
the
with
the
building
and
that
this
building
is
going
to
be
around
for
a
long
time
when
we
talked
and
and
I
know,
this
whole
Council
went
through
a
process.
Recently
we
approved
the
south
of
Gray's
Lake
master
plan
and
we
don't
want
to
start
undermining
that
that
plan,
because
we
make
an
exception
for
one.
H
We
likely
will
get
requests
for
similar
exceptions.
We
understand
the
situation
that
you're
in
and
and
again
think
what
you
were
trying
to
do
is
appropriate
for
that
spot
in
the
appropriate
way.
To
do
so
is
to
to
get
at
least,
in
my
opinion,
a
variance
from
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
and
I.
Think
hey.
H
L
There
is
no
time
delay,
I,
guess
in
requesting
that
if
they
were
denied
that
request,
they
could
submit
a
different
zoning
application
immediately
without
requesting
a
year
or
waiting
a
year,
but
they
could
request
that
and
you
just
have
to
be
a
change
in
their
application
to
some
extent,
so
maybe
a
different
zoning
District
than
they
had
sought
before.
If
that
doesn't
work
out,
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
The
staff
is
supportive
of
a
use
variance
for
the
property,
so
we
would
be
supporting
that
to
the
board
of
adjustment
and
again
I.
G
L
D
H
Okay
and
it's
a
master
plan
that
that
you
know
you
were
part
of
approving
and
yeah.
It
looks
at
that
whole
area
where
that's
not
the
only
Warehouse
building
and
the
question
is,
is
how
do
you
deal
with
you
know
the
long-term
signal
piece
which
we've
zoned
for
different
uses
in
that
whole
area
to
the
north,
all
south
of
Gray's
Lake.
H
D
Just
I
mean
this:
this
gentleman
purchased
purchased
a
building,
probably
wasn't
very
cheap.
He
started
his
own
business,
he's
he's
doing
what
he
needs
to
do
to
survive
and
we
went
through
the
process
of
changing
the
zoning.
You
probably
couldn't
have
had
your
religious
assembly
in
there
when
it
was
zoned
before
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know,
but
I
mean
we're
gonna
make
him
go
through
another
step,
possibly
risk
not
getting
it
and
then
coming
back
to
us
and
asking
for
another
rezoning
for
something
completely
different.
D
I
I,
just
think
that
I
mean
I
I
would
be
supportive
of
rezoning
it
and
and
being
fine
with
it.
It's
not
going
to
change.
Use
that
building's
not
going
anywhere
he's
right.
It's
Precast!
It's
solid!
It's
not
going
anywhere!
It's
not
getting
torn
down!
It's
not
if
anything.
The
buildings
to
the
north
are
much
older
and
much
more
in
tough
shape,
and
that
is
all
I
mean.
You've
got
everything
from
warehouses
to
Confluence,
to
everything
else.
On
that
other
side
of
the
road.
D
This
guy's
just
trying
to
operate
a
business
and
he's
using
part
of
it
as
a
as
a
church
assembly.
I.
Don't
know
why
we
wouldn't
and
I
don't
know:
maybe
you
are
willing
to
approve
it,
but
I
would
be
in
favor
of
approving
it
and
and
moving
forward,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
what
he's
trying
to
do
and
I
don't
know
why
we
would
make
him
go
through
another
step.
It's
already
important.
M
G
M
It
okay,
we'll
see
you
you'll,
see
it
too.
Okay
on
the
screen.
Oh
well,
that's
really
tiny.
Do
you
zoom
it
in
they'll,
zoom
out
zoom
out?
Okay,
there
you
go,
you
can
see
the
different
places.
The
yellow
is
his
Warehouse.
The
brown
is
the
shop
in
the
church.
Is
the
blue
and
the
office?
Is
the
green
one
of
the
things
as
I
began
to
study
this
thing.
M
M
Okay?
Let
me
just
read
this:
this
is
not
my
words.
This
is
just
straight
out
of
chapter
134
and
I
have
to
comply
to
this
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
do
it.
Nx1
sets
is
intended
for
it's
every
word's,
important
too.
It
is
intended
for
a
mix
of
single
and
smaller
scaled
multi-family
household
uses
and
building
forms
to
preserve
the
scale
and
character
of
the
existing
neighborhood,
while
allowing
for
new
infill
housing.
M
They'll,
probably
just
just
directly
to
the
west
of
this
property,
is
a
housing
project
and
they're
going
to
do
nine
buildings
they're
going
to
be
four
units,
each
they're
going
to
be
condos
and
one
thing
about
a
condo.
Is
you
got
to
have
a
front
door
and
you
got
to
have
Windows
in
the
front
to
the
street
and
you've
got
to
have
Windows
to
the
back
for
the
bedrooms
and
this
building
that
Steve
owns
here
is
315
feet.
M
Long
and
200
202
feet
in
depth
now
I'm
an
architect
but
I
can't
figure
out
how
to
get
a
door
to
the
front
of
the
building
and
then
windows
in
the
back
of
the
building.
When
the
back
of
the
building
is
200
feet
and
the
condos
that
they're
putting
in
are
nine
of
them
and
they're
about
40
feet
wide,
and
so
the
end
units
will
probably
have
Windows
on
three
sides
and
the
ones
the
two
in
the
middle
will
probably
have
Windows
in
the
back
and
in
the
front.
M
But
I
don't
know
how
you
get
this
building
to
go
with
chapter
134.
It
is
when
it
says
it's
intended
for
small
scale,
housing
or
small,
like
that.
The
building's
20
feet
tall
and
you
know
I,
don't
know
how
to
do
it
without
tearing
it
down.
Poor
guy
Steven's
got
3.2
million
dollars
in
this
building
and
he
went
he's
always
lived
in
Des
Moines
went
to
Drake,
went
to
the
great
College
of
Drake
campus.
Here,
learn
business
and
I.
M
Don't
know
what
wrong
what
went
wrong
with
the
system,
but
his
first,
this
first
project
he
did
was
down
on
campus
and
he
was
going
to
do
these
sunbathing
booths
or
whatever
and
he
lost
he.
It
didn't
go
very
well.
There
was
some
bad
stigma
about
the
sun
machines
and
so
forth.
So
he
lost
his
business.
M
It's
pretty
hard
to
come
straight
out
of
college.
Take
everything
you've
learned
and
then
go
busted
now.
This
is
the
second
project
for
this
young
man,
and
now
this
would
also
bust
him
again.
I.
Just
don't
think
that
this
would
be
a
very
good
deal
if
you've
ever
if
you've
ever
taken
on
a
Calamity
like
that,
you
know
it's
hard
to
hold
your
head
up.
It's
your
arms
feel
like
they're,
dragging
on
the
floor,
but
I
don't
even
see
practically
how
you
could
ever
do
this
with
a
building.
That's
200
feet
in
down.
C
D
L
Has
well
we
we
had
done
work
as
part
of
the
master
plan
for
that
whole
Corridor.
So
there's
dense
housing
along
the
south
side
of
Gray's
Lake
on
the
north
side
of
George
Lake
Parkway,
and
this
was
going
to
be
a
transition
to
the
single
family
residential
further
to
the
South
he
went
in
there
and
they
occupied
it.
They
have
some
uses
that
were
not
allowed
in
the
ex
District.
The
church
is
one,
and
so
basically
they
came
in
for
rezoning
and
because
we
have
that
master
plan
in
place.
D
Mike,
so
it
was
a
printer,
it's
always
been
a
printer
shop.
So
when
we
went
through
and
did
the
rezoning
stood
with
our
Master
plans
or
with
when
we
rezoned
it,
you,
you
and
staff
decided
not
to
Zone
that
for
its
original
use,
what
it
was
built
for,
we
decided
we
were
going
to
Zone
it
for
something
completely
different
and
that's
fine.
But
that's
not
what
the
use
was
when
it
was
in
play
and
then
it
went
belly
up
and
so
now
he's
got
mill,
work
and
he's
got
a
warehouse,
and
you
know
I.
D
The
church
probably
doesn't
fit
into
it,
but
I
don't
understand
why
it
wasn't
zoned
for
what
it
was,
because
it
was
still
in
business.
When
we
did
the
rezoning
it
should
have
been
zoned,
so
they
could
have
had
a
printer
shop.
There
might
have
been
up.
Could
you
add
a
printer
shop
with
this
with
the
zoning
that
it
has
currently
right.
D
No
I
I'm
not
saying
your
Sony
pushed
them
out
of
business,
but
that
building
is
not
was
never
going
to
be
residential
unless
you
tore
it
down
that
that
to
me
is
beyond
I,
don't
know
why
we
would
ever
do
something
like
that.
That's
ridiculous
and
to
have
him
even
stand
up
here
and
have
to
go
through
another
process
and,
let's
not
say
it,
absolutely
we're
going
to
rezone
it.
For
you
right
now
is
ridiculous.
I
won't
be
supportive
if
you
guys
are
going
to
deny
it.
D
D
N
Right
so
you've
done
a
good
job,
encapsulating
the
challenge
in
Des,
Moines
and
older
communities
that
need
to
transition
into
a
different
use.
The
way
this
is
standard
in
understanding
that
we
need
to
show
in
our
land
use
and
our
zoning,
what
we're
projecting
the
future
use
of
those
buildings
and
then
find
a
way-
and
this
is
our
process,
so
that
businesses
that
can
come
forward
have
a
slightly
different
use
that
can
still
work
through
the
transition.
D
And
this
this
process,
where
we
went
through
the
rezoning
process
and
you
and
staff
picked
out
what
you
wanted
to
rezone
certain
things,
and
this
isn't
the
only
one
we've
had
this
conversation
about
this
isn't.
This
is
not
the
only
one
we've
had
the
conversation
about,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
we
keep
seeing.
You
know
this
is
a.
This
is
a
very
large
piece
of
product.
This
is
3.2
million
dollars
that
a
very
young
man
probably
signed
his
life
away
and
now
he's
gambling
to
go
to
the
board
of
adjustment.
D
E
O
O
So
if
everybody
wants
a
zoning
change,
if
everybody
has
these
issues,
then
maybe
things
were
done
without
looking
closely
at
that
building
and
Stephen?
Don't
you
have
a
picture
that
shows
that
building
being
made
into
condos
that
you
showed
me
yeah
on
the
master
plan
where
Steven's
building
is,
it
does
show
condos,
so
that
would
mean
that
strong
sturdy
building
would
be
torn
down
to
make
those
so
I,
think
and
plus.
If
this
is
going
to
have
Steven
go
back,
let's
say
the
cabinet
maker
moves
out.
O
L
Again,
they
would
have
the
right,
within
six
months
to
reoccupy
the
building
under
our
code
with
the
same
use
in
the
building,
so
they
would
have
those
opportunities
and
then
again,
Redevelopment
of
site
would
require
acquisition
on
the
property,
so
there'd
be
compensation
to
any
have
to
be
a
willing
willing,
buyer
and
a
willing
seller
in
that
situation
in
the
future.
Again,
we
did
a
long-term
master
plan
for
the
area,
which
was
the
south
at
Grace.
C
L
D
Yeah
and
tear
everything
down:
that's
there!
If
they're
going
to
put
housing,
you
have
to
tear
everything
down
to
the
north,
that's
been
there
for
years
and
it's
been
occupied
for
years
for
Confluence
and
there's
a
electrical
place.
There's
other
so
they'd
have
to
tear
all
that
down
and
then
on
the
other
side,
which
this
is
probably
the
newest
building.
That's
ever
been
built
on
Thomas
Back,
Road
1989,
and
you
know
we're
asking
to
tear
down
how
many
square
feet
is
it
and
60
000
square
foot
concrete
building
we're
going
to
tear.
C
N
Do
have
to
keep
this
clean.
The
the
concern
here
is
that,
with
an
industrial
zoning,
somebody
could
come
in
and
tear
that
building
down
or
gut
it
and
then
put
a
strong
heavy
industrial
use
in
it.
That
industrial
will
allow.
That's
part
of
the
process
here
is
to
narrow
that
as
much
as
possible
in
the
event,
possibly
decades
from
now,
somebody
doesn't
take
advantage
of
that
High
industrial
zoning.
N
D
To
be
done,
wait
a
minute.
What
type
of
industrial
are
we
so
scared
of
when
it
was
built
there,
and
it
was
a
printer
what
what
it's
fabrication
or
production
or
religious
assembly?
What
I
mean
they
can't
put
a
junkyard
down
there,
I
mean
what
are
we
talking
about?
That's
so
going
to
be
so
bad
in
a
sixty
thousand
square
foot
building.
What
could
be
so
bad.
L
D
Mean
it
was
a
printer,
that's
what
it
was
built
for.
He
went
had
a
neighborhood
meeting,
I,
don't
see
a
bunch
of
people
standing
here
being
mad
about
it
that
he
wants
to
leave
it.
What
it
is,
do
what
you
guys
want,
but
you
this
is
silly,
and
this
is
why
it's
people
say
you
know
what
we're
not
gonna,
We're
Not
Gonna
redevelop
in
the
city
of
Des
Moines.
This
is
exactly
why
and-
and
we
all
keep
doing
the
same
mistake.
It's
like
Groundhog
Day
over
and
over
and
over
same
thing,
but.
A
P
Hi,
my
name
is
Carol
Maher
I
live
in
Ward
three
as
a
member
of
the
planet.
Zoning
commission,
where
we
discuss
this
item
I,
was
a
big
believer
in
the
South.
The
Grays
master
plan,
which
is
a
a
plan
that
is,
it
takes
a
long-term
look
right
at
what's
going
down
there
and
the
plan
for
the
long-term
look
is
not
industrial
and
that
truck
area
is
being
depopulated.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
Copeland
is
buying
a
city
parcel
right
on
the
river,
so
it's
not
a
plan.
That's
going
to
happen
overnight.
P
This
building,
I'm
betting
in
20
years
will
probably
worth
a
lot
more
because
all
around
it
will
be
developed
all
this
sexy
housing.
So
while
I
originally
on
pnz
was
like
oh
yeah,
Architects
on
the
commission
told
me
hey.
This
building
will
stay
up
for
a
long
time
and
he
doesn't
need
to
be
the
first
Block
in
the
master
plan
that
changes
it
can
grow
up
around
him
and
then,
frankly,
I'm
not
an
economist
either
I
would
think
his
property
would
be
worth
more.
So
that's
my
thought.
Process
on
that.
Q
H
H
We
also
want
to
protect
the
master
plan,
protect
the
future
uses
and
the
work
that
went
into
that
Master
planning
process
and
the
best
way
to
do
that
is
to
go
through
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
and
get
a
variance
so
that
you
can
use
the
building
in
the
way
that
you
want
and
that
we
can
continue
to
move
forward
with
the
master
plan
and,
if
a
future
use
in
the
future
that
building
is
sold
and
someone
else
comes
without
this
history
and
wants
to
redevelop.
We
have
the
master
plan
input.
H
In
addition,
it
allows
for
the
other
Parcels
we
we
get
that
this
building
is
not
going
anywhere.
The
building
is
solid.
It's
a
question
about
what
is
the
best
process
to
allow
you
to
get
the
uses
that
you
want
out
of
it
now
and
into
the
future,
and
I
firmly
believe
that
this
master
plan
is
the
right
way
to
go
and
the
way
to
get
you
your
uses.
Staff
is
recommending
it
as
well.
H
Staff
is
recommending
that
that
or
would
recommend
that
a
variance
we
heard
it
today
that
a
variance
be
approved
that
it
there
is
a
very
high
likelihood,
very,
very
high
likelihood
of
that.
I
can't
guarantee
that,
because
we
don't
control
that
other
profit,
but
that
to
me
is
the
best
way
to
accomplish
this,
to
support
the
master
planning
effort
and
to
keep
that
use
in
this
building.
So
that's
why
I'm
moving
item
58b?
We
want
you
to
be
successful
and-
and
we
want,
we
want
this
process
to
to
move
forward.
A
L
Board
of
adjustment
meets
monthly
I,
don't
know
they
have
an
application
in
yet
for
that
so
it'd
be
the
main
meeting
of
the
board
of
adjustment.
We're
not
actively
enforcing
on
this,
so
their
uses
can
continue
in
the
interim
we're
working
through
the
rezoning
process
right
now,
so
there's
a
Stay
on
any
enforcement
action
and
we.
A
L
L
A
F
D
D
G
G
A
All
right
take
this
one
to
59.
59
is
a
request
from
chasing
waterfalls.
Llc
Christopher
Thompson
is
the
officer
to
amend
playing
DSM,
creating
our
tomorrow
plan
to
revise
the
future
land
use
classification
for
business
park
to
Industrial
and
to
rezone
the
two
Lots
located
on
the
west:
half
of
the
property
at
2215
Sunset
Road
from
ex
mixed
use,
District
to
Limited
I
won
industrial
district
to
allow
outdoor
storage
for
a
landscaping
business
a
is
the
first
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
B
is
the
final
consideration.
A
A
S
I'm
Katie
McCain
I'm
an
attorney
at
Brown,
Winnick,
666,
Grand,
Avenue
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
chasing
waterfalls,
Christopher
Thompson's
here
as
well.
To
answer
questions
if
you
have
any
for
him
directly
we're
applying
to
rezone
from
ex
to
limited
i1
to
allow
for
outdoor
storage
in
connection
with
their
landscaping
business
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions.
Anybody.
A
A
Foreign
60's
on
a
request
from
WC
MRP
Des
Moines,
Center
LLC
Nathan
Paul,
is
the
officer
for
review
and
approval
of
the
First
Amendment
to
the
Southdale
PUD
conceptual
plan
at
4900
Southeast
14th
Street,
to
allow
the
expansion
of
a
retail
use,
Home
Depot
to
include
additional
outdoor
display
and
Merchandising
in
the
parking
lot
continued
from
the
March
27th
of
2023
council
meeting
quickly.
We'll
ask
any
parties
in
interest
in
the
audience.
T
D
We
met
Friday
and
we
talked
and
I
think
you
had
conversation
with
staff
I
think
we
have
a
good
plan
set
forth.
Hopefully
the
owner
of
the
property
will
will
put
in
some
of
the
screening
that
has
been
taken
out
over
the
years,
because
there's
no
trees,
no
shrubs
and
things
like
that
would
really
help
so
I'm
happy
to
move
item
16.
thanks
for
working
with
us.
F
A
A
A
U
Alan
Richards
405.
6th
Avenue
I've
been
up
on
the
hill
this
morning,
just
talking
about
block
grants
more
in
the
mental
health
area,
and
an
issue
came
up
concerning
the
public
hearing
public
hearings
for
these
block
grants.
One
of
them
is
grantees,
must
document
the
public
participation
process,
including
any
public
hearings
or
meetings
held
and
provide
a
summary
of
the
input
received
from
the
public.
U
My
issue
with
the
block
grant,
is
number
one:
why
are
we
taking
good
taxpayer
money
from
some
local
person,
sending
it
to
Washington
D.C
and
then
have
a
process
where
they
send
it
back
to
you?
But
with
that
said,
my
bigger
issue
is
the
overall
spending
trend
of
government.
Here
where
this
is
unspent
is
supposed
to
been
done
last
year.
It
wasn't
done
so.
Why
are
we
coming
up
with
a
new
way
to
go
ahead
and
keep
spending
it?
N
N
W
F
V
D
A
J
A
J
J
Allow
those
of
us
who
have
an
interest-
and
there
are
several
here
in
the
audience
tonight-
who
have
an
interest
in
the
police
budget
specifically
and
believe
that
it
needs
to
be
attended
to
and
that
you
are
not
doing
that
at
this
point,
to
suggest
that
in
one
minute
somebody
is
going
to
be
effectively
be
able
to
talk
about
an
81
million
dollar
part
of
your
overall
budget.
And
this
is
the
only
opportunity
or
that's
possible.
J
I
attended
the
December
meeting
on
the
east
side
and
I
can
guarantee
you
that
I
had
no
opportunity
to
make
any
kind
of
a
cogent
explanation,
because
we
didn't
have
a
copy
of
the
budget
at
that
point
which
I
didn't
receive
until
after
December
30
or
January
31..
So
right
now,
I'm
asking
that
you
wave
waive
that
requirement
and
give
me
the
five
minutes
I
was
told
I
would
have
and
others.
A
C
C
D
F
A
Okay,
we've
got
a
a
motion
and
a
second
to
extend
and
give
additional
time
of
up
to
five
minutes
in
a
boy's
boat
is
sufficient.
I
think
I
will
say
that
we
would
underline
it
and
say
we
don't
want
repetition.
We
want
to
hear
what
people
have
to
say,
but
repetition
is
not
helpful.
We
want
to
hear
new
information
so
with
that
I
guess
all
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
opponents
hearing
none
Harvey
go
ahead.
Thank.
J
J
According
to
the
1977-70
census,
the
population
of
Des
Moines
was
200
587.,
the
2020
census
reports,
a
population
of
214
137,
a
growth
of
about
seven
percent
since
1970,
primarily
in
response
to
the
war
on
drugs
and
political
fear.
Mongers,
the
Des
Moines
police
budget
has
grown
from
about
four
million
dollars
to
a
projected
81
million
dollars
in
2324
more
than
19
times
larger.
J
In
this
period,
our
police
department
has
become
more
militarized,
with
no
improvement
in
public
safety,
while
the
other
City
agencies
have
been
starved
for
resources,
as
you
saw
in
the
civilytics
report,
if
you
actually
took
a
look
at
it,
when
you
look
at
the
police
budget
now
it
consumes
about
37
percent
of
general
fund
expenditures,
it
funds.
What
many
of
us
believe
is
an
overpriced
militarized
Department,
not
focused
on
public
safety
and
a
department
that
refuses
to
Embrace
Transparency
and
accountability,
you're
supporting
the
wrong
set
of
values.
J
Over
the
last
eight
years,
the
community
has
printed
presented
to
you
evidence
of
wrongful
conduct
by
the
Des
Moines
Police
pointed
out
to
you,
the
refusal
of
the
police
department
to
meet
with
us
and
absolutely
and
pointed
out
the
absolute
refusal
to
adopt
any
of
the
recommendations
represented
by
even
the
people
you're
paying
and
appointing
on
his
watch
and
years.
We
have
I
believe
somewhere
around
two
million
dollars
of
settlements
and
judgments
against
the
department,
all
of
which
were
avoidable.
You
should
be
appalled
by
this
as
I
am
and
as
we're
here
today.
J
J
I
attended
a
part
of
that
trial
and
it'll
be
ongoing
all
week,
and
my
suspicion
is
that
you'll
have
additional
judgments
to
be
to
be
paid.
All
of
this
could
be
avoided,
and
it's
up
to
you
to
make
sure
it
is
during
the
2020
protest
that
followed
the
murder
of
George
Floyd.
The
full
power
of
our
militarized
Police
Department
was
on
display
in
addition
to
the
suit
pending.
Today
there
are
now
multiple
lawsuits
pending
because
of
wrongful
conduct
of
the
militarized
police
department.
During
the
protest,
this
should
outrage
you
as
it
does
me.
J
Your
police,
chief
city
manager
and
some
members
of
this
Council
have
ignored
the
request
for
creation,
for
example,
of
a
civilian
review
board
to
provide
oversight
and
accountability
for
our
police
department
and
have
instead
funded
what
I
consider
a
ridiculous
quest
for
accreditation.
Without
ever
explaining
to
me
as
a
public
citizen
how
it's
going
to
improve
Public
Safety
in
the
city,
you
received
from
just
voices
earlier
an
analysis
of
the
police
department
budget
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
that
highlights
in
detail
the
things
that
I'm
talking
about
right
now.
J
The
manner
in
which
your
approval
of
this
budget
will
once
again
reflect
your
support
for
a
militarized
police
department
that
is
still
disproportionately
targeting
people
of
color,
and
we
have
the
statistics
again.
This
point
through
now
2021
to
demonstrate
it
continues
to
start
and
then
continues
to
starve
those
other
agencies
that,
in
the
city
that
are
actually
working
to
improve
the
public
safety
of
the
citizen.
This
is
a
budget
that
needs
police
budget
needs
to
be
frozen,
examined
and
transformed
thanks
for
the
extra
time
you're
here.
X
Thanks
Harvey
and
thank
you
guys
for
giving
us
this
extra
time.
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
like
60
seconds.
You
know
what
what
can
we
do
with
that
for
something?
That's
so
important.
I
mean
this
is
our
city
that
we
love
all
of
us
and
we
may
not
always
agree,
but
we
want
our
children
to
stay
here.
My
daughter
has
left
she's
not
coming
back
my
youngest
daughter.
She
moved
she's
not
coming
back
to
Des
Moines
she's,
not
coming
back
to
Iowa,
and
that's
not
all
your
problem.
X
Some
of
it's
state
problems
right
that
she
doesn't
want
to
deal
with,
but
part
of
it
is
this
city.
What
do
we
want?
The
city
to
look
like
in
the
next
20
to
50
years,
for
our
children
and
as
a
white
woman
I
don't
have
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
the
bias
that
happens
when
I'm
stopped
by
the
cops,
but
I
have
seen
it.
X
I
volunteer
for
Jeff's
voices,
I've
looked
at
the
and
and
listened
at
the
videos
from
the
police
cars
and
from
the
the
cameras
on
the
lapel,
and
the
rhetoric
coming
out
at
the
time
would
say.
Oh
yes,
lots
of
violence
from
our
citizens.
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
right
now,
if
you've
taken
any
time
to
look
at
these
videos,
it's
traumatizing
just
to
watch
them,
so
you
can
imagine
mostly
kids
wearing
summer
clothing
and
what
they
were
dealing
with
for
the
first
three
to
four.
You
know,
protests
and
then
ongoing
ones.
X
X
I,
don't
want
any
of
my
family
members
and
my
family,
my
friends
and
and
community
members
to
feel
unsafe,
and
many
of
my
black
and
brown
community
members
and
family
members
do
not
feel
safe.
They
do
not
feel
listened
to.
I
think
it's
interesting
that
you
took
the
initiative
to
get
two
different
organizations
to
help
you
in
this
this
problem
that
we
have
right
to
Consulting
groups.
That's
great!
That's
not
just
your
money!
X
That's
our
money
being
spent
to
do
that,
and
we
want
you
to
take
in
consideration
all
of
the
things
that
they've
suggested.
It's
best
practice.
We've
seen
it
in
action
in
other
cities
and
at
this
point
to
have
almost
40
percent
of
our
our
city
budget,
go
to
our
police
department
and
there's
still
this
other
stuff
hanging
around
it
doesn't
make
sense,
doesn't
make
sense
from
a
non-uh
like
doesn't
make
sense
from
a
corporate
point
of
view,
and
it
doesn't
make
sense
from
the
city
point
of
view.
X
W
A
W
My
name
again
is
Lori
Young
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
tonight
about
the
city
budget
for
the
fiscal
year
ending
2024.
I
live
in
Ward,
one
I
I
work
with
just
voices
Iowa
and
we're
a
non-profit,
that's
dedicated
to
seeing
an
end
to
racially
biased
policing
in
Des
Moines.
My
comments
are
focused
on
the
Des
Moines
police
budget,
specifically
which,
as
you
know,
is
the
largest
part
of
our
general
fund
at
around
36
percent,
larger
than
any
other
City
agency
or
Department.
W
The
budget
you're
about
to
approve
is
around
80
million
dollars,
80
million
with
a
capital
in
because
of
its
ginormous
size.
It's
the
exact
reason
that
U.S
council
members
should
examine
it
and
closely
and
and
freeze
it
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year,
not
cut
it.
Just
freeze
it
with
a
budget
that
large,
you
would
think
you
would
have
some
reasonable
questions.
Questions
like
the
patrol
unit
is
projected
to
pay
out
2.4
million
dollars
in
contracts.
W
Does
this
mean
that
this
money
is
leaving
the
community
and
being
spent
on
vendors
outside
of
the
city?
What
are
these
contracts
for?
Could
these
contracts
be
fulfilled
by
small
women-owned
minority
owned
disabled
owned
businesses
within
Des
Moines,
and
then
there's
the
projection
of
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
fines
and
forfeitures?
The
budget
offers
little
explanation
about
who
is
paying
these
fines
and
are
they
being
assessed
equitably
across
neighborhoods
and
racial
groups?
W
I
imagine.
The
patrol
section
is
largely
responsible
for
these,
so
what
kind
of
incentives
might
that
create
for
police
officers?
Now,
when
I
worked
in
the
corporate
world,
my
salary,
my
Department's
bonuses,
was
in
direct
correlation
to
how
well
we
met
our
goals
and
how
well
we
performed
well.
Our
police
department
has
lost
several
lawsuits
in
recent
years,
costing
taxpayers
around
one
and
a
half
to
two
million
dollars
in
settlements
and
Counting.
W
W
W
Let's
just
say
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year,
we
don't
hire
more
officers
nor
replace
those
that
retire
or
leave.
What
would
happen?
How
could
that
cost
savings
be
used?
These
are
questions
that
your
constituents
and
the
community
wants
answers
to,
and
we
really
rely
on
you
to
do
the
work
to
do
the
cost
benefit
analysis
to
act
in
prudent
and
diligent
manner
for
the
best
interests
of
the
city.
How
could
Des
Moines
improve
Public
Safety
by
reallocating
some?
W
V
V
We
need
transparency
and
accountability
in
our
police
force.
I,
don't
trust
them.
You
know.
Some
of
you
know
that
my
children
are
mixed
race.
It
terrifies
me
at
night
when
my
son
is
out
late
because
I'm
afraid
he
might
get
pulled
over
here
in
Des,
Moines
I
shouldn't
have
to
be
afraid
of
that
here
in
Des
Moines,
my
daughter,
she
was
got
arrested
up
at
the
Capitol
and
she
got
stepped
on,
but
by
the
police.
V
I
still
have
the
shirt
she
was
wearing
with
the
footprint
on
it
and
they
ground
her
face
in
the
dirt.
Now,
whether
it
was
dmpd
or
not
can't
say
things
were
pretty
chaotic
that
day
and
they
got
boxed
in,
but
she
was
trying
to
help
people
get
away
safely,
and
you
know
I
sympathize
with
our
our
African-American
families,
the
parents
and
the
grandparents
who
worry
about
their
children
being
accidentally
killed
by
our
police.
That
is
unacceptable.
V
We
need
to
do
the
basic
best
practices
that
can
make
things
better.
We
need
to
have
responsibility
and
accountability
and
I
think
you
know
we
need
to
send
that
message
by
freezing
their
budget
until
those
some
of
these
things
start
getting
implemented.
I,
don't
think
that's
asking
a
lot.
I
think
it's
good
use
of
taxpayer
time
and
money.
Thank
you.
Y
Y
I
agree
with
the
the
previous
speaker,
I,
don't
feel
safer
because
of
how
much
money
we're
spending
on
a
militarized
police
force.
What
makes
Community
safe
is
when
all
of
us
work
together
and
I
know
you
all
are
trying
to
work
together
as
city
council
people,
but
I
think
we
let
this
propaganda
of
fear
overtake
our
ability
to
make
sound
decisions
about
how
much
policing
we
need.
We
don't
need
to
fear
each
other
and
Corral
people
into
impoverished,
neighborhoods
and
then
surround
them
with
police.
I,
hardly
see
any
police
ever
in
my
neighborhood.
Y
So
where
are
those
37
of
our
budget
and
100
some
Patrol
people?
Where
are
they
they're
all
surrounding
those
other
neighborhoods?
And
instead
of
spending
the
money
on
police
to
keep
people
corralled
in
poverty
and
without
the
education
or
the
health
care
that
they
need?
Let's
spend
the
money
on
that
instead
and
raise
people
up,
and
there
are
studies
that
show
that
that
reduces
crime.
I
would
like
you
all
to
present
to
the
public
how
what
evidence
you
have
that
the
amount
of
money
we're
spending
on
the
police
is
really
being
effective.
Z
I
recognize
that
there
are
a
goodly
number
of
reasons
for
us
to
be
proud
of
our
police
force
and
of
most
of
the
individual
policemen
there
on
it
there
upon
us,
concurrently,
I'm
aware
and
by
now
I
think.
You
should
be
aware
that
there
is
a
very
deep
thread
of
distrust
and
dissatisfaction
about
some
of
our
policing
aspects
and
about
your
supervision
of
the
police
department,
they're
beginning
to
grow
throughout
our
citizenry
I've,
been
through
the
just
voices
analysis
that
was
provided
to
us
all
I've
been
through
it
very
carefully.
Z
AA
AA
AA
I
did
observe
what
was
going
on
during
that
summer.
I
was
unbelievably
unimpressed
with
the
lack
of
command
and
control
the
lack
of
professionalism
with
the
response
from
the
Des
Moines
Police
Department
I,
again
promised
my
wife
that
I
would
not
share
what
I
really
feel
tonight.
So
I,
don't
get
hauled
out
of
here
and
I
also
promised
some
of
my
colleagues
that
I
wouldn't
call
for
what
I
would
like
to
see.
AA
So
I
would
call
for
a
Frozen
budget.
I
would
call
for
honest
evaluation
and
implementation
of
the
recommendations
of
the
two
Consulting
organizations
that
you've
hired
one
that
has
reported
out,
one
that
will
report
out
and
I
will
say
ditto
with
Harvey
Harrison
and
Laura
Young
from
just
voices
have
said
and
call
for
a
freezing
of
the
DMP
budget
until
those
reports
have
been
fully
evaluated
and
implemented,
and
we
can
rationally
say
that
we
have
regained
positive
control
of
the
policing
function
in
the
city
of
Des
Moines.
Thank
you.
U
Alan
Richards
405,
6th,
Avenue
and
I
was
coming
up
here
to
say
to
freeze
the
whole
budget.
A
billion
dollars
is
the
point
where
we
need
to
think
in
fact,
in
my
by
tried
to
get
in
where
I
would
be
in
a
position
to
lower
the
budget
by
25
percent,
at
least
for
the
county
attorney
in
that
process.
So
that's
what
I'm
here
I
do
want
to
follow
up
about
the
public
hearing.
U
I
got
all
the
rules
on
these
Federal
block
grants
where
they
have
these
systems,
where
you
would
pre-register
and
if
there's
a
block
of
people
you
try
to
allocate
time
and
you
give
them
more
time.
So
I
do
appreciate
it
here,
but
with
that
said,
with
the
police,
I
practice,
law
and
I've
done
the
murder
cases
here
and
and
I
want
to
talk
about
it
that
it
the
hours
and
hours
that
just
multiply
up
in
the
wrong
direction.
U
You
know
where
you
have
31
officers
come
in
to
testify
and
they're
all
there
and
they
depend
on
the
attorneys.
You
got
to
depositions
and
they
come
back
again
and
again
and
again
so
five
times
the
derivative
is
five
times
so
one
traffic
cop
standing
there
to
guard
in
the
neighborhood,
because
I
think
the
police
do
a
good
job
and
then
all
that
money
we
spend
to
make
sure
that
we
get
through
there,
because
a
lot
of
that
could
be
cut
out.
U
If
you
just
had
intelligent
people
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
the
culture
better.
And
with
that
said,
and
even
when
I
talked
to
these
31
Des
Moines
police
officers,
I
have
asked
every
one
of
them
about
their
training
in
athletics,
ethnicity
and
so
every
one
of
them
said
they
had
no
training
except
for
two.
U
They
had
four
hours
of
training
while
they
were
flying
them
to
Afghanistan
about
different
ethnic
types
of
people
and
I
just
found
that
troubling
now
my
my
mom's
cousin
was
the
mayor
of
of
Marion
and,
of
course,
I'm
talking
about
the
derivatives.
Well
they're
cops
over
there.
They
pull
your
pro-wa,
they
give
you
two
questions:
I'm
towing
your
car,
taking
a
motel
or
taking
you
to
jail.
What's
your
answer?
They
say:
okay,
take
the
car,
the
cops
over
there
think
well,
I
don't
have
to
do
the
derivative
I.
Don't
do
the
reports.
U
I
don't
have
to
follow
up.
I
got
the
guy
safe
I
got
the
car
off
the
road.
I
don't
have
to
go
to
court.
I,
don't
do
more
reports,
I
don't
do
depositions
and
if
that
cop
is
that
way,
he
spends
half
his
time
just
having
to
deal
with
that.
One
cherry
picking
case
that
he'd
gotten
if
it's
against
the
wrong
ethnic
people,
it's
bad
but
in
any
event
the
spending's
too
high
I'm
asking
for
governments
to
stop.
U
You
know
to
try
to
somehow:
let's,
let's
talk
it
over
Polk
County
has
a
criminal
justice
coordinating
Council
I,
don't
even
think
they
meet
anymore.
You
know
so
that
there's
there's
a
lot
of
good
police
around
this
community
around
the
county
and
it
can
be
done
unless
money,
the
County
attorneys
I,
was
coming
up
here.
U
To
ask
for
get
rid
of
a
half
a
position
and
I
think
you
can
get
rid
of
a
whole
position
if
you
just
start
analyzing
from
the
top
down
that
we
want
to
save
money,
we
want
to
do
a
better
job
as
well.
All
that's
done
is
just
going
to
be
good.
People
like
you,
because
you
do
good
and
I
think
that
I.T
people
you're
putting
in
there
is
good
so
that
we
can
get
good
reports
across
the
board.
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
Adam
callanan
I
live
in
Ward,
three
wanted
to
also
say:
I
agree
with
the
calls
for
a
frozen
police
budget
and
an
honest
accounting
with
the
reports.
City
paid
a
lot
of
money
for
reports
and
recommendations
that
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
honoring
at
this
time.
Hopefully
that
changes
I
also
wanted
to
talk
about
just
the
budget
as
a
whole.
These
budget
meetings
in
December.
It's
awesome
that
we
had
budget
meetings
before
the
budget
came
out.
Q
They
were
more
mostly
informational
sessions,
though
they
weren't
public
Council
meetings
and
they
weren't
handled
the
same
way.
Council
decided
they
didn't
want
to
have
to
announce
and
go
through
all
the
open
meeting
rules.
So
there
weren't
allowed
to
be
like
majority
of
city
council
people
there
in
previous
years.
I
know
that
the
the
input
that
is
receiving
those
sessions
does
not
always
actually
come
back
to
council.
Q
It
doesn't
always
make
it
up
the
whole
way,
which
is
a
shame,
but
I
just
wanted
to
Echo
the
the
need
to
have
more
budget
meetings
that
actually
are
full
public
meetings.
Open
meetings
with
Council.
Somebody
before
me
brought
up
that
Indira
Shoemaker
won
a
City
Council
election
on
similar
calls.
I
would
also
like
to
mention
that
Kimberly
Graham
also
won
it's
at
the
county
level,
but
it's
the
same
people
of
this
city
voting
in
that
they're
all
kind
of
sending
the
same
message
election
after
election
I'm
guessing
in
November.
Q
We
will
see
similar
things
with
that
city
election,
and
that
is
the
way
things
are
going.
I
also
wanted
to
talk
about
again.
Just
put
the
police
budget
a
lot
of
the
funds
we
see
I
feel
use
dishonest.
We
see
the
start
team
when
they
ask
for
funding
a
lot
of
times.
It's
a
phrased
is
like
they're
like
a
counter-terror
team.
I
can
tell
you
that
when
I've
seen
the
Star
team,
it's
been
here
in
City
Council
meetings
where
we're
talking
about
police
spending.
Q
They
come
and
have
harassed
to
arrest
people
arrested
people
who
are
speaking
against
the
police.
So
that's
where
a
lot
of
that
star
team
funding
does
actually
go,
and
just
the
police
spending
in
general
does
not
get
the
accounting
that
other
departments
do
most
of
the
police
spending
items
end
up
on
the
consent
agenda
and
are
just
things
that
happen
behind
the
scene.
It's
based
on
police
chief
Wingard
asking
for
things
is
what
it
appears
like.
Q
AB
Good
evening,
thank
you
very
much
for
listening
to
all
of
us.
I'm
Regina,
McRae
I
live
in
Ward,
one
Lower,
Beaver,
Road
and
four
things.
I
guess:
I
support
the
request
of
a
freeze
for
the
budget
of
the
police
department,
but
I
also
want
to
see
that
money
put
into
increase
funds
for
Community
Support
Services
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
a
minute
reduction
in
the
military
style
equipment
on
our
police
department
and
the
data
that's
coming
from
the
traffic
stops
being
made
available
to
the
public.
AB
The
city
has
combined
with
Broadlands
Medical
Center
for
that
wonderful
care
team
to
be
able
to
help
with
mental
health,
and
so
I
just
support
that
there
be
more
programs
like
that
with
other
community
agencies
that
can
help
address
the
real
needs.
That's
below.
What's
going
on
in
those
calls,
but
I
also
want
to
thanks
the
police
chief
for
the
special
order
that
was
made
in
October
regards
to
documenting
every
single
traffic.
AB
Stop
that
there
is
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
general
public
knows
that
as
much,
but
I'm
really
glad
that
it's
being
done
and
what
very
much
looking
forward
to
what
the
results
of
that
will
be.
Imagine
there'll
be
fewer
stops.
Imagine
that
we
might
see
less
disparity
in
who
is
being
stopped
and
perhaps
the
improved
relationship
with
our
black
and
brown
community,
so
I
think
that's
the
main
things
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
I'm
grateful
for
your
willingness
to
listen
and
appreciate
your
taking
into
consideration
all
that
you've
heard.
Thank
you.
AC
Foreign
Council
Sharon,
zanderzakis,
Iowa,
CCI
and
Des
Moines
resident
I
wasn't
going
to
speak
and
I
don't
have
anything
prepared,
but
as
I'm
listening
to
all
the
other
speakers,
my
mind
went
back
to
the
year
1989.
when
I
moved
here
to
Des
Moines
I
moved
here
in
June
of
1989
and
by
August
I
was
stopped
by
the
Des
Moines
PD
I
was
leaving
with
my
two
daughters,
who
were
in
the
back
seat
of
the
car.
The
sun
was
just
setting.
I
was
at
a
stop
sign.
AC
I
was
met
with
flashlights
in
the
car,
looking
at
the
back
seat,
where
my
kids
were
not
really
provided
an
answer
they
win
or
what
round
the
car
searched.
Looked
at
the
back
trunk,
Pro,
nine
yards
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
still
had
Blackhawk
County
plates
on
there
and
then
after
they
got
through.
AC
They
said
well,
your
back
tail
light.
Wasn't
working
go
get
that
fixed,
and
that
was
that,
of
course,
I
checked
my
back
tail
light
once
I
got
home
and
the
tail
light
was
working
I,
don't
think
you
understand
the
trauma
and
organizationally
working
on
this,
it's
personal
and
for
a
lot
of
people,
it's
personal.
AC
So
many
people
are
telling
the
stories
and
they're
not
changing
from
1989
to
now
same
things
are
happening
but
rethink
it
and
then,
as
I
believe
it
was
Laurie
said
earlier.
You
reward
people
when
you
see
a
job
well
done,
but
I
cannot
sit
down
and
not
acknowledge
those
of
you
on
this
Council
that
have
been
listening.
AC
We
appreciate
what
that
you
have
heard.
Community
Voices
we've
shared
some
things
with
you
and
it
didn't
start
off
that
way,
but
we
do
see
improvements
being
made
not
as
quickly
as
we
like,
because
if
we
want
to
see
them
the
way
we
want
it
to
it,
be
there,
but
unfortunately
it
takes
work.
It
takes
more
conversations.
It
takes
trust,
it
takes
transparency.
It
takes
all
these
things
to
build
community
and
a
relationship
with
each
and
every
one
of
you.
AC
So
rather
look
at
us
some
as
the
enemy
we're
here
out
of
concern
and
love
for
our
community,
and
we
will
continue
to
fight.
We
will
continue
to
stand.
We
will
continue
to
say
what
we
know
is
happening
out
here
and
hope
that
you
will
do
your
jobs
and
take
some
initiatives,
some
steps
to
actually
that
we
as
Des
Moines,
can
be
proud
and
say
we
did
that
thing
and
we
did
it
together.
AC
AD
AD
Now
we've
asked
for
many
things
like
reform
and
accountability,
and
you
have
to
understand
that
Scott
Sanders
are
city
manager,
but
so
are
you
guys?
So
are
we
as
residents
here
we
don't
come
here
to
Badger
you
and
tell
you
off
and
piss
you
off.
We
come
here
to
work
with
you
for
improvements
when
we
see
deficiencies
in
our
community
or
crying
out
for
you,
as
our
representatives
to
represent
us
and
spending
more
money
without
telling
people
who
are
asking
you.
AD
AD
R
I
am
a
Drake,
University
student,
so
I
believe
I'm
in
Ward.
One
I
come
here
with
members
of
my
student
organization,
the
Roosevelt
Institute,
we're
a
policy
making
group
and
I
can't
advocate
for
freeze
or
not
I,
don't
think
I
have
enough
information
on
Des
Moines
policing
in
particular,
but
I'm
from
the
city
of
West,
Des,
Moines,
I'm,
the
Dei
intern
for
their
new
Dei
office
and
I.
Think
what
we're
seeing
here
is
an
issue
of
communication.
R
AE
My
name
is
Elijah
alsop,
I'm,
also
a
drake
student,
and
last
year
my
car
was
broken
into
I.
Had
a
lot
of
things
stolen
and
I
called
the
police.
I
got
everything
done
and
afterwards
they
said
we'll
be
in
touch
with.
You
never
never
happened.
It's
called
multiple
times.
Nothing
ever
happened
and
that's
okay,
I'm
fine.
But
the
thing
that
worries
me
is
the
items
stolen
from
my
car.
It
wasn't
the
most
expensive
golf
clubs
that
I
had
back
there.
AE
It
was
a
box
of
granola
bars
and
my
laptop,
which
I'm
sure
they
probably
tried
to
sell
or
something,
but
the
granola
bars
and
a
pair
of
shoes
was
more
important
to
them,
because
it's
probably
out
of
need
that
they
went
up
to
my
car
and
took
things
out
of
it
and
I
think
if
we
spent
more
money
on
taking
these
communities
out
of
poverty,
things
like
that
wouldn't
happen,
as
often
I
wouldn't
even
need
to
call
the
police,
even
when
I
don't
get
any
answers
back.
Thank
you.
H
H
We
have
to
follow
up
on
some
of
those
things
so,
for
example,
I
continue
to
support
the
implementation
of
all
of
the
recommendations
of
the
marijuana
task
force.
It's
good
that
we're
talking
about
steps
up
at
the
Capitol
and
we're
supporting
legislation
to
decriminalize
and
legalize,
but
there's
more
that
we
can
do
and
I
continue
to
support
making
marijuana
enforcement
the
lowest
enforcement
priority.
H
We
took
some
important
steps
with
the
study
by
Public
Works
LLC
to
look
at
data
analysis
and
practices
there,
and
I
am
glad
that
we
are
working
to
implement
those
recommendations
and
again
I
support
implementing
the
recommendations
that
were
identified
in
that
report.
I
think
those
recommendations
will
help
help
us
improve
the
the
type
of
service
that
we
provide.
H
I
support
additional
resources
for
the
mobile
crisis
unit
and
the
care
team
I
think
those
have
been
much
needed,
a
much
needed
step
so
that
we
can
respond
to
more
more
calls
for
service
with
the
right
service.
The
first
time
and
I
think
we've
seen
good
results
from
that.
I
think
there's
room
for
that
to
continue
to
grow
and
I
support
that
approach.
H
H
I
support,
an
approach,
that's
similar,
though
not
identical
to
to
the
city
of
Cedar,
Rapids
and
I.
Think
we
can
do
all
these
things
and
we
can
continue
to
do
more.
We
should
always
be
working
to
improve
the
way
we
provide
public
service
and
and
I'm
glad
that
we
are
taking
steps,
I'm
willing
to
look
at
additional
steps
and
have
additional
conversation.
H
It's
the
type
of
thing
that
I
am
constantly
learning
more
as
I
engage,
and
we
should
look
for
opportunities
and
we
should
constantly,
as
a
city,
be
looking
at
how
we
can
improve
the
service
we
provide,
and
if
there
are
ideas
or
or
practices
that
we
can
be
implementing.
I
hope
we'll
continue
to
do
that
and
I.
H
A
C
I
just
want
to
Echo
too
I'm
going
to
support
the
budget
and
I
think
that
we
are
making
strides
to
look
at
things
differently.
I
think
we
have
the
reports
that
have
come
in
based
on
what
Josh
has
talked
about,
so
I
think
that
we're
ongoing
and
I've
always
been
the
proponent
of
the
expanding
the
Mental
Health
crisis
team
I.
Think
we've
seen
once
you
do
Implement
something
new.
It
has
been
very
effective
and
I
do
think.
A
AF
Right
Carl
did
you
have
anything
without
sawing
the
sawdust?
Our
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
work
toward
the
implementation
of
the
Public
Works
in
in
21st,
CP
and
yeah.
These
changes
move
at
glacial
speeds,
but
but
I
appreciate
the
the
chance
to
engage
with
the
Iowa's,
a
CCI
racial
Justice
team
and
I
hope.
You'll
continue
to
invite
me
to
those
meetings
and
I
think
we've
made
some
good
progress.
We
have
more
to
do.
A
I
will
say
to
all
the
citizens.
We
continue
to
appreciate
your
input
and
your
thoughts.
We
hear
from
lots
of
citizens
in
the
neighborhoods
that
we
go
out
to
they
meet
us
on
the
street.
They
meet
us
in
the
grocery
stores.
They
made
us
in
the
pharmacies
they
mean
it's
everywhere.
We
go
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
need
to
do.
Is
we
look
at
21st
century
policing
as
we
look
at
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it?
A
I've
heard
students
say
they
want
more
protection.
Question
is
how
how
do
we
do
that?
How
do
we
make
those
students
feel
safe
in
the
school
for
the
10
year
old
say
that
he
sometimes
is
afraid
to
go
to
school
because
he's
afraid,
there's
guns
in
the
lockers
there's
guns
in
the
hands
of
students
and
he
doesn't
feel
safe,
set
it
at
a
public
meeting.
A
A
A
We
need
to
find
a
way,
calm
that
fear
down
and
again
work
together,
as
a
community
I,
also
I'm,
going
to
vote
to
support
this
budget,
but
I
want
you
to
know
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
look
we're
going
to
continue
to
listen
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
look,
how
we
spend
our
money
and
where
we
spend
it
and
think
about
what
Public
Safety
means.
We've
talked
about
Mental,
Health
and
working
with
Broadlawns.
A
A
on
the
2023
sidewalk
replacement
program,
a
resolution
proving
the
plan,
specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
Engineers
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
in
designating
the
lowest
responsive,
responsible
bidder
as
BT
Construction
LLC
Barrett
Tucker
is
the
owner.
356
975
Council
Communication
number
23-182,
a
it's
approval
of
the
contract
and
a
bond
and
permission
to
sublet
well
as
the
general
public.
To
make
any
comments
they
would
like
regarding
the
plan,
specifications,
form
of
documents,
Engineers
assessment
or
the
low
better
designation,
any
comments.
I.
E
D
D
So
that's
almost
2.5
million
dollars
over
the
past
three
years
to
support
Dart
in
in
any
other
Transportation
Alternatives
that
that
go
above
and
beyond
our
public
transportation
commitment
that
we
already
do.
We
are
already
at
our
cap,
our
property
tax
levy
cap.
We
are
one
of
the
few
communities
that
are
at
that
cap,
but
we
are
the
only
community
that
is
giving
extra
dollars
to
Dart
and
I.
D
So
I'm
happy
to
support
this
and
I
will
move
item
43,
but
it
I
just
want
that
to
be
on
record
and
we've
asked
and
I
know:
Elizabeth
isn't
here
for
the
last
nine
years
they
come
every
year
we
had
asked
what
what
we're
doing
for
the
funding.
You
know
they
changed
the
governance
before
they
did.
The
funding
and
now
they're
now
they're
trying
to
figure
that
out
never
got
any
answers.
D
C
H
But
also,
if
you
look
at
the
service
and
you
look
at
what
is
going
on
at
Dart,
the
vast
majority
of
the
service
is
service
to
our
residents
and
not
everyone
appreciates
that
service,
but
that
service
is
absolutely
critical
to
our
residents.
It's
critical
to
being
the
type
of
community
I
think
we
want
to
be.
We
talk
a
lot
about
the
list
that
we're
proud
to
be
on
and
how
we
are
more
livable
than
other
communities
of
a
similar
size.
H
You
can't
be
that
type
of
community
without
without
a
strong
transit
system,
without
making
sure
that
your
community
is
accessible
to
all
your
residents
without
being
able
to
connect
people
to
jobs,
to
health
care,
to
child
care.
Transit
does
all
of
those
things
and
Transit
is
absolutely
essential
for
for
accomplishing
that,
and
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
through
work
through
Solutions
and
work
on
the
funding.
H
But
that's
my
only
comment
that
also
means
that
we've
got
to
be
willing
to
engage
in
conversation
on
what
the
solutions
are.
Should
we
not
get
the
help
we
need
up
at
the
up
at
the
legislature
what
the
solutions
are
going
forward
and
we'll
have
time
to
have
those
conversations,
but
there
aren't
easy
answers
in
terms
of
how
we
solve
that.
H
H
D
We
did,
we
did
go
above
and
beyond
the
two
and
at
2.5
million
that
is
above
and
beyond,
would
any
other.
No
other
community
has
given
any
other
money
to
to
backfill
any
structural
deficits
that
I
asked
for
nine
years
to
Elizabeth
what
what
her
strategy
was
and
never
came
up
with
this
solution,
no
other
community
that
is
at
their
cap
or
any
other
community
that
has
the
low
job
centers
that
we're
taking
our
residents
and
going
there
and
they're
working
in
other
communities
that
keep
threatening
to
pull
out.
D
You
need
to
be
the
voice
that
says:
okay.
If
you
want
to
pull
out
you're,
not
going
to
have
any
workers
there.
That's
what
I
expect
you
as
our
representative
to
be,
and
to
do.
We
did
go
above
and
beyond
Josh
whether
it
can
be
used
for
any
other
thing.
Transit
wise,
I'm
sure
we
could
have
figured
something
out,
but
that
is
the
best
place
for
it.
D
I'm
just
saying
to
everyone
else,
so
they
understand
because
I
don't
think
our
residents
see
they
see
their
assessment,
they
see
what
they're
paying
they
see,
what
they're
paying
to
Dart
we're
at
our
Max.
This
deal
was
done
20
some
years
ago,
when
the
MTA
was
turned
to
Dart
and
we're
at
our
cat,
and
no
other
community
wants
to
go
up
to
that
cap,
but
we're
we're
shelling
out
more
money
and
more
money
of
taxpayer
dollars.
I
do
not
want
our
services
cut
and
you
need
to
be
that
vocal
voice
for
us
since
you're.
A
68
is
amending
chapter
114
of
the
municipal
code
regarding
traffic
regulation
changes
as
follows:
Council
Communication,
number
23-185
a
is
a
parking
modification
12th
Street
between
Keosauqua
way
and
Crocker.
Street
B
is
the
corner
clearance,
parking
restrictions,
1
11th,
Street
and
Garden
Avenue
to
the
Fleming
Avenue
and
Lower
Beaver
Road
C
is
parking
modification
on
the
north
side
of
Grand
Avenue
between
17th
Street
and
18th
Street.
AA
H
A
A
Adam
70s
amending
chapter
94
of
the
municipal
code
relating
to
public
Improvement
bids
pursuant
to
Iowa
Code
chapter
26
and
amending
chapter
2,
the
municipal
code,
relating
to
an
exception
for
the
Iowa
Code
chapter
26
A
from
the
definition
of
services,
Council
Communication
number
23-177a
is
the
final
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
the
waivers
requested
by
the
engineering
department
requires
six
votes.
B
is
authorizing
the
issuance
of
a
notice
of
intent
to
enter
into
a
guaranteed
maximum
price
contract.
A
A
AF
A
A
AG
Carolyn
you
Walker
ward,
two,
the
nature
crisis
that
we
talked
about
today
with
Nomo
May
and
the
climate
crisis
are
connected
poet.
Hirschfield
says
we
will
not
save
this
Earth,
because
it's
a
good
idea.
We
will
save
this
earth
and
its
beings
because
we
love
it
and
we
love
them.
The
latest
ipcc
report
on
the
video
clip
makes
this
connection
between
nature
and
the
climate
crisis.
AG
AG
AG
AG
AH
Thank
you,
so
no
more
Proclamation
that
we
heard
this
evening
is
a
great
start
and
tool
for
helping
landowners,
transform,
moan
Landscapes
with
their
heavy
use
of
fossil
fuels,
fertilizers
and
pesticides
into
Naturescapes
that
support
native
biodiversity
and
provide
ecosystem
services
such
as
the
pollinators
we
we
talked
about.
Non-Native
species
have
been
coming
to
North
America
ever
since
Europeans
and
others
set
foot
on
its
Shores
over
the
past
200
years
or
so
more
than
50
000
foreign
plan
animal
species
have
become
established
in
the
United
States.
AH
It's
not
native
to
the
ecosystem,
where
it's
present
and
two
whose
introduction
causes
or
is
likely
to
cause
economic
or
environmental
harm
or
harm
to
human
health.
Invasive
species
are
the
number
one
threat
to
Natural
areas
and
Native
species
damage
and
control
costs
are
estimated
nationwide
at
more
than
138
billion
dollars
per
year.
Think
about
all
that
tax
money
that
could
be
going
to
something
else.
AH
This
estimated
about
14
of
non-native
species
become
invasive.
That
means
we
have
about
seven
thousand
invasive
species.
The
first
step
in
creating
yet
another
invasive
species
is,
is
to
introduce
or
use
a
non-native
species,
because
non-native
species
did
not
evolve
in
the
place
where
they
are
now
present.
They
do
not
have
to
live
by
All,
the
Rules
of
Nature.
AH
This
allows
them
to
overrun
and
displace
native
species.
An
invasive
species
in
climate
change
are
connected.
Climate
change
can
accelerate
and
exacerbate
many
of
the
most
severe
impacts
of
invasive
species.
Likewise,
invasive
species
make
both
the
urban
Landscapes
we
live
in,
and
the
natural
systems
we
all
depend
on
less
resilient
to
the
effects
of
climate
change.
We
must
all
do
our
part
to
protect
native
biodiversity,
conserve
resources
and
mitigate
climate
change.
Using
native
species
in
our
Landscapes
is
important,
and
the
right
thing
to
do.