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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning 1/03/13
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CONSENT ITEM --- Item 1 is continued from the November 1, 2012, November 15, 2012, and December 6, 2012 meetings of the Commission.
1. Request from SPTIHS Property Trust (owner) d/b/a Union Park Health Services represented by David Hagerty (officer) to rezone property located at 2401 East 8th Street.
A) Determination as to whether the proposed amendment is in conformance with the Des Moines' 2020 Community Character Plan.
B) Amendment to the Des Moines' 2020 Community Character Plan to revise the future land use designation from Low Density Residential to Medium Density Residential. (21-2012-4.15)
C) Rezone from "R1-60" One-Family Low-Density Residential District to "R-3" Multiple-Family Residential District, to allow expansion of the existing legal non-conforming residential nursing care facility to provide a breezeway and entry vestibule connecting two existing wings of the building. (ZON2012-00183)
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. Request from Eagle Iron Works (owner) 129 East Holcomb, represented by Gary Krantz, for vacation
of the remaining portions of the east/west segment of alley between Reigart Street and East Holcomb
Avenue running west of Oxford Street. (11-2012-1.25)
3. Request from Union Pacific Railroad (owner) for vacation of the following four segments of street rightof-
way where the railroad right-of-way intersects. This would result in the termination of the public
street on either side of the railroad, thereby closing it to through traffic:
A) Hull Avenue between Delaware Avenue and Dixon Street. (11-2012-1.22)
B) Scott Avenue between Southeast 20th Street and Southeast 22nd Street. (11-2012-1.23)
C) Southeast 34th Street between Scott Avenue and East Court Avenue. (11-2012-1.21)
D) Southeast 36th Street at a point north of Scott Avenue. (11-2012-1.24)
4. Request from Kent Lehs (owner) to rezone property located at 2425 Euclid Avenue.
A) Determination as to whether the proposed amendment is in conformance with the Des Moines'
2020 Community Character Plan.
B) Amendment to the Des Moines' 2020 Community Character Plan to revise the future land use
designation from Commercial: Auto-Oriented, Community Commercial to General Industrial.
(21-2012-4.17)
C) Rezone from "C-2" General Retail and Highway Oriented Commercial District to "M-1" Light Industrial
District, to allow reuse of the former lumberyard property for warehousing and contractor storage.
(ZON2012-00212)
5. Request from James Sarcone (purchaser) to rezone property located at 4506 Southwest 9th Street.
The subject property is owned by David Holmes.
A) Determination as to whether the proposed amendment is in conformance with the Des Moines'
2020 Community Character Plan.
B) Rezone from Limited "C-2" General Retail and Highway Oriented Commercial District to Limited "C-
2" General Retail and Highway Oriented Commercial District whereby the condition prohibiting the
use of the property for automobile establishments for display, hire, rental or sales is removed, to
allow reuse of the existing commercial building for a vehicle display lot. (ZON2012-00218)
6. Request from St. Gregory Centers Holdings, LLC (purchaser) represented by Michael Vasquez
(officer) for review and approval of a 7th Amendment to the "Airport Commerce Park West" PUD
Conceptual Plan regarding property located at 6151 Thornton Avenue, to allow conversion of 19,000
square feet of the existing 38,317-square foot building from a retail/restaurant/office use to a
rehabilitation center where 6,000 square feet is proposed for general office use, 3,000 square feet is
proposed for medical outpatient clinic use, and 10,000 square feet is proposed for a residential social
detoxification use. The subject property is owned by Valley Bank. (ZON2012-00219)
7. Request from ST Howard Development (purchaser) represented by Steve Howard (officer) for approval
of a Preliminary Minor Subdivision Plat, "4111 Tonawanda" on property located at 4111 Tonawanda
Drive, to subdivide the 2.54 acre property into a 1.79 acre parcel with existing single-family dwelling,
and a 0.78 acre parcel. The subject property is owned by Susan Muelhaupt. (13-2013-1.18)
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By
the
city,
unless
the
applicant
appeals
to
the
city
council,
you'll
need
to
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
community
development
department
staff
for
details
on
those
council
hearings,
the
applicant
will
be
given
this
evening
10
minutes
to
present
their
request
after
presentation
by
staff
proponents,
and
then
opponents
are
allowed
to
speak
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes.
The
applicant
will
then
be
given
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
after
motion,
the
commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
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All
comments
are
to
be
germaine
to
the
issue
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
Items
listed
on
the
consent
portion
of
the
agenda
will
not
be
individually
discussed,
are
two
of
those
tonight
and
will
and
will
be
considered
for
approval
in
accordance
with
the
recommendation
in
the
staff
report
and
that's
an
individual
president
or
a
member
of
the
commission
request.
C
The
city
of
des
moines
is
pleased
to
provide
accommodations
to
individuals
or
groups
with
disabilities
and
encourages
participation
in
city
government
to
better
serve
you
when
possible.
Please
notify
us
at
least
three
business
days
in
advance
at
area
code
515-283-4209
should
special
accommodations
be
required.
Assistive
listening
devices
are
available
in
the
for
the
meetings
in
the
council
chambers,
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
meetings
are
also
broadcast
on
mediacom
cable
channel
7
for
customers
with
that
service.
The
broadcasts
are
also
streamed,
live
on
real
time
at
the
city
of
des
moines
website
at
www.dmgov.org.
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Number
one
is
a
request
from
sptihs
property
trust,
doing
business
as
union
park,
health
services
represented
by
david
hagerty
to
rezone
property
located
at
2401
east
8th
street.
Is
there
anyone
here
in
opposition
to
that
item
in
opposition
to
that
item
this
evening,
seeing
none
any
of
the
council
desire
to
remove
it?
Okay.
C
The
second
item
is
a
request
from
eagle
ironworks
129
east
holcomb,
represented
by
gary
krantz
for
vacation
of
the
remaining
portions
of
the
east-west
segment
of
the
alley
between
zuri
or
reingard
regard
street
and
east
holcombe
avenue
running
west
of
oxford
street.
Is
there
anyone
that
wants
that
item
in
opposition
that
item
that
they
want
to
remove
tonight?
Do
you
want
it
removed
from
the
consent
portion,
sir?
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C
Do
you
have
a
motion?
Continue
this
greg
all
right,
any
discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
raising
your
right
hand,
opposed
same
sign.
Acclimation
again
passes
it's
continued
to
the
17th,
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
with
item
number.
Two
jason.
Are
you
presenting
on
this
one?
Thank
you,
sir.
D
I'm
not
100
sure
I
what
I
understand
is
they're
putting
the
site
together
and
maybe
a
part
of
a
marketing
plan
and
ownership.
Obviously,
if
you're
going
to
be
selling
or
buying
property,
if
part
of
the
site,
the
function
of
it
depends
upon
right-of-way
that
you
don't
own,
that's
what
has
brought
them
forward
through
our
process.
E
Ladies
and
gentlemen
of
the
commission,
I'm
christopher
talcott,
I'm
here
from
the
davis-brown
law
firm.
We
represent
eagle,
ironworks
llc
our
office
at
215,
10th
street
suite
1300
des
moines
503.09,
that's
right!
The
actually
this
property
did
sell
and
actually,
as
mr
vanessa
noted
the
reason
it's
came
to
light
as
property
was
getting
sold,
they
got
a
title.
Title
examination
done
realized
that
it
appeared
that
this
paper
alley
had
never
been
vacated
properly,
probably
sold
to
another
company,
eiw
llc,
it's
kind
of
closed
subject
to
this
title
issue.
E
Getting
cleared
up,
don't
have
too
much
else
to
add
to
what
the
city
staff
report
shows.
Other
than
that.
I
think
this
property
most
of
this
land
has
been
owned
by
the
same
company
for
well
over
40
plus
years,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
ever
was
in
fact
an
alley.
This
has
been
a
parking
lot
for
as
far
you
know,
as
long
back
as
we
know
so
really.
This
is
just
a
matter
of
cleaning
up
the
title
and
getting
you
know
clear
title
this
little
vacated
alley.
E
C
C
F
F
I
sincerely
wish
that
eagle
ironworks
had
stayed
as
an
operating
company,
but
we're
past
that
now,
apparently,
this
site
is
two
blocks
away
from
north
high
school.
It's
three
blocks
away
from
findlay.
It's
six
blocks
away
from
harding
the
highest
and
best
use
of
this
property.
If
it
is
not
going
to
be
used
for
industrial
purposes,
it
seems
to
me
is
residential,
particularly
in
fact,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
the
levee
has
been
reconstructed
now,
which
offers
the
properties
to
the
north
of
the
river
flood
protection
which
they've
not
enjoyed
in
the
past.
F
Willing
to
entertain
a
a
temporary
easement
of
10
years
or
until
such
time
as
the
property
is
sold
again,
but
I
don't
believe
I'm
prepared
to
accept
a
conveyance
of
this
property
when
we
don't
really
know
what's
going
to
happen
here,
and
it's
very
important
for
the
people
in
this
particular
neighborhood
to
to,
I
think,
have
a
say
in
in
what
happens
in
the
properties
that
were
destroyed
by
the
flood
and
in
this
instance
those
residents
have
not
received
that
consideration.
Thank
you.
E
I
guess,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
guess
I
just
had.
I
don't
know
that
it's
really
known
exactly
what
the
buyer
is
going
to
do
with
this
company.
You
know
that's
another
companies
out
of
state.
I
think
I
don't
really
represent
them,
but
I
just
point
out
that
whoever
buys
this
land
and
if
it
were
ever
to
be
developed
for
any
other
purpose.
This
issue
is
going
to
have
to
be
cleared
up.
E
So
at
some
point
the
sally's
gonna
have
to
be
dealt
with,
and
now
we
have
a
buyer
who
needs
to
get
this
taken
care
of.
Otherwise
you
know
the
land
would
sit
vacant.
I
don't
know
what
else
will
happen
to
it.
It's
really
a
cleanup
work
from
something.
That's
you
know
the
title
work
that
was
pretty
much
done
a
long
time
ago,
just
cleaning
it
up
so
just
wanted
to
add
that.
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C
This
would
result
in
termination
of
the
public
street
on
either
side
of
the
railroad,
thereby
closing
it
to
through
traffic
property
number
one
is
hull
avenue
between
delaware,
avenue
and
dixon
property.
I
guess
it's
b
would
be
scott
avenue
between
southeast
20th
street
and
southeast
22nd
street
item
c
would
be
southeast
34th
street
between
scott
avenue
and
east
court.
Avenue
and
item
d
would
be
southeast
20
or
36th
street.
At
a
point,
north
of
scott
avenue,
jason
you're,
presenting
on
this
one.
D
Members
of
the
commission,
jason
vanessa
and
the
city's
planning
staff
tonight
with
this
item
I'll
give
a
brief
introduction,
but
we're
going
to
do
something
a
little
different
with
the
complexity
of
it
all.
We
do
have
a
powerpoint
that
the
applicant
is
going
to
present
to
you
that
covers
a
lot
of
of
what's
gone
on
with
this
project
and
giving
the
the
magnitude
of
the
project
and
all
that's
gone
into
it.
D
With
regard
to
public
meetings,
neighborhood
meetings
and
stuff,
I
felt
that
it
was
appropriate
with
your
blessing
to
kind
of
change
things
up
I'll.
Do
the
intro
we'll
have
them,
do
a
presentation,
I'll
give
kind
of
the
more
standard
staff
report
or
really
more
of
a
summary
recommendation
than
do
answers.
You
know
if
you
have
any
questions
for
us
and
then
to
public
comment.
If
that
sounds
good
with
everybody.
C
D
Think
the
powerpoint
itself
will
be
around
10
minutes.
All
right,
that'd
be
great,
but
the
key
here
is,
we
didn't
want
to
do
a
5
30
session
and
not
have
have
the
public
be
confused
as
to
what
was
presented
to
you
and
given
the
need
to
keep
everybody
in
the
loop,
we
felt
it
was
important
to
do
it
this
way.
So,
but.
C
D
D
Southeast
34th
and
36th
street
scott
avenue
to
the
south
dean
avenues
a
little
to
the
north,
not
showing
up
on
this
map.
The
other
area
that
I
don't
anticipate
that
we'll
spend
as
much
time
on
is
scott
avenue
over
by
southeast
22nd
street.
This
area
is
already
vacated.
This
is
kevin
and
that
was
vacated
and
barricaded
off
some
time
ago.
There's
actually
a
barricade
on
this
side
to
keep
people
from
entering
and
becoming
stuck.
So
this
right
here
is
probably
all
that
you
really
hear
about.
D
In
2012
union
pacific
came
forward
with
the
the
idea
or
the
thought
of
of
these
four
crossings
being
closed,
and
I
won't
go
into
detail
I'll.
Let
them
explain
the
the
purposes
behind
that,
but
given
the
magnitude
of
something
along
those
lines,
we
didn't.
We
encourage
them
to
go
through
a
process
of
having
some
pre-neighborhood
meetings.
You
know.
Normally
we
have
people
submit
their
application
to
us
already
for
vacation
or
rezoning,
and
then
we
direct
them
between
that
submittal
and
the
meeting
to
have
had
their
neighborhood
meeting.
D
D
Yeah
and
before
I
switch
over
to
powerpoint
there,
we
have,
as
you
can
imagine,
we've
done
a
lot
of
notice,
and
so
we
had
you
know
very
large
notice
area.
So
we
have
response
cards
that
all
pass
around.
There
was
also
an
an
email
that
you
have
from
the
fairgrounds
neighbor
association,
along
with
four
letters
of
support
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
as
well,
that
were
provided
by
the
applicant
so
I'll
pass.
J
C
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
brenda
main
waring,
I'm
the
director
of
public
affairs
for
union
pacific
for
the
states
of
iowa
nebraska,
my
residence
or
my
business
address
is
1400
douglas
street
omaha
nebraska.
I
have
with
me
tonight
our
local
operating
engineer
and
our
manager
of
public
projects
engineering.
K
Three
years
ago
the
city
of
des
moines,
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
asked
union
pacific
to
come
to
a
study
session
because
they
had
a
lot
of
concerns
about
traffic
delays
on
the
east
side
corridor
and
they
asked
union
pacific
to
address
those
concerns
by
finding
a
way
to
make
traffic
vehicle
traffic
flow
better
in
that
east
site
corridor.
So
what
you're
seeing
tonight
is
a
culmination
of
those
three
years
of
work.
K
K
This
is
the
north
south
corridor
for
union
pacific
here
paul
avenue,
dean
avenue,
adm
is
right
up
here.
As
you
come
down
here,
we
make
a
sharp
90
degree
turn
into
our
east
west
yard.
This
is
our
short
line.
Yard
we'll
be
talking
a
lot
about
that
this
track
here,
that's
not
highlighted
is
the
iowa
interstate
track,
that
is
their
route
into
des
moines
and
on
into
omaha
union,
pacific
and
iowa
interstate
share
this
route
in
this
part
of
the
yard.
K
K
We
have
about
100
customers
that
ship
goods
into
or
out
of
des
moines,
so
100
local
based
customers
who
ship
on
union
pacific
about
12
trains
a
day
arrive
in
short
line
yard.
We
have
an
additional
five
to
ten
that
pass
through
des
moines,
so
that's
roughly
the
equivalent
of
about
six
thousand
truckloads
of
goods
semi-truckloads
of
goods
that
are
not
traveling.
On
des
moines
roadways,
we
have
170
employees
in
polk
county
with
an
annual
payroll
of
about
12
million
dollars,
and
we've
invested
about
15
million
dollars
in
des
moines
since
2005.
K
There
are
four
primary
reasons
for
the
traffic
delays
on
the
east
side
due
to
rail
traffic,
that
sharp
curve
that
I
showed
you
limits
the
speed
that
trains
can
travel.
It's
a
speed
limit
of
10
miles
an
hour.
There
are
industries
on
the
line,
local
industries
that
have
to
be
served
that
require
stop
and
go
service.
Those
two
factors
really
cannot
be
changed
in
any
way.
K
The
other
two
factors
that
we
looked
at
are
hand
thrown
switches,
and
that
picture
that
you
see
there
is
is
sort
of
a
an
example
so
that
those
of
you
aren't
too
familiar
with
the
railroad
can
understand
what
we're
talking
about.
The
conductor
has
to
climb
off
the
train
manually
move
the
switch,
so
the
train
can
go
in
the
the
track
that
it
needs
to
go
on.
There
are
a
series
of
those
switches
into
the
yard
where
we
make
that
sharp
turn
union
pacific,
as
part
of
this
plan,
will
invest.
K
Excuse
me
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollars
to
install
power
switches
that
would
be
controlled
from
onboard
the
locomotive.
The
other
factor
is.
We
have
limited
space
between
road
crossings
to
allow
us
to
put
a
train
both
in
the
yard
and
outside
the
yard,
while
we're
waiting
for
space,
so
a
train
can
be
dispatched
into
the
yard.
There
is
no
place
for
us
to
put
a
standard
length
train
where
we
don't
sit
on
a
crossing.
K
Now
the
issue
of
yard
capacity
is
really
not
due
solely
to
the
number
of
cars
on
the
train
or
the
number
of
cars
in
the
yard.
Equally
important
is
the
length
of
track
that
we
have
to
accommodate
those
inbound
and
outbound
train,
and
the
train
length
is
really
determined
by
the
customer
needs
across
the
country.
One
of
the
reasons
that
the
american
rail
system
is
the
best
in
the
world
the
most
efficient,
the
most
economical
is
we're
able
to
adapt
to
the
customer
needs
and
be
flexible
and
have
the
kind
of
train
link.
K
K
These
are
the
east
side,
rail
crossings,
again
to
kind
of
give
you
more
specifics
from
a
street
side.
This
red
line
again
is
the
rail
traffic
because
of
the
way
the
maps
oriented.
I
had
to
divide
it
up,
but
you
can
see
it
goes
from
euclid
hall,
guthrie
and
then
down
here
university,
hubble
easton
is
right.
There,
grand
walnut
dean.
You
can
see
where
we
cross
the
tracks,
southeast
34th,
southeast
36th.
K
K
K
K
So
the
proposal
at
which
jason
showed
you
a
little
bit
would
be
to
close
southeast
34th
close
southeast
36th
install
a
new
crossing.
There
actually
used
to
be
a
crossing
here,
but
reinstall
it
here
at
what
would
be
southeast
38th
street
and
then
because
of
the
flooding
issues
that
we
heard
about
through
the
neighborhood
meetings.
Union
pacific
would
make
available
to
the
city
a
roadway
along
our
right-of-way.
That
would
be
used
for
emergencies
during
flooding,
so
during
flooding
incidents
where
they
could
not
have
access
to
scott
avenue
that
emergency
roadway
would
be
available.
K
K
I
also
talked
about
needing
space
outside
of
our
yard.
We
don't
have
any
place
where
we
can
put
a
train
to
hold
a
train
while
it's
waiting
to
get
dispatched
into
the
yard
without
blocking
a
crossing
to
the
east
side.
That's
iowa.
Interstate
up
doesn't
receive
trains
from
that
direction.
On
the
south
side,
we
have
sufficient
space.
K
It's
the
trains
that
are
coming
in
from
the
north,
where
we
have
the
biggest
problem.
We
do
not
have
enough
space
to
put
a
train
any
place
there,
that
we
don't
block
a
crossing,
so
in
order
to
have
sufficient
space
to
build
that
train.
We're
looking
for
closure
of
hull
avenue.
That
does
a
couple
of
things.
K
In
addition
to
creating
space
for
us
to
hold
the
train
and
combining
with
power
switches,
improving
the
east
side,
rail
crossings,
it
also
gives
space
for
some
adm
improvements
that
are
planned
and
we
do
have
adm
here,
they're
going
to
speak
in
a
little
bit.
I
believe
so.
It
creates
real
capacity
that
adm
is
going
to
need
in
order
to
expand
in
the
future
and
that
we
are
going
to
need
in
order
to
serve
future
business.
K
K
The
city
did
some
traffic
counts
here,
and
I
think
they've
mentioned
this
before
that
there
will
be
about
3
400
road
vehicles
on
a
daily
basis.
That
would
need
to
find
an
alternate
route
and
a
somewhat
over
19
000
on
a
daily
basis.
That
would
be
benefited
in
terms
of
having
that
east
side
traffic
move
more
quickly
because
of
the
improvements
we're
talking
about
making
to
the
roadways.
So
trains
can
move
more
efficiently.
K
It
also
allows
us
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
current
customers,
we're
right
now
being
creative
in
how
we
meet
those
needs.
But,
unfortunately,
those
operating
limitations
are
causing
frustrations
for
east
side
residents
as
they
get
stuck
behind
trains
and
for
our
employees
as
well
as
des
moines
looks
to
compete
for
future
economic
development.
It's
going
to
have
to
have
good
rail
service.
You
have
a
letter
from
the
department
of
transportation.
You
have
a
letter
from
the
des
moines
area,
metropolitan
planning
organization,
explaining
what
des
moines
needs
are
for
rail
service.
K
K
The
bottom
line.
Is
we
see
it
without
these
improvements?
We
cannot
do
what
the
city's
asked
us
to
do,
which
is
to
improve
the
flow
of
traffic
on
the
east
side,
and
we
cannot
meet
the
needs,
continued
needs
of
our
current
customers
and
certainly
cannot
meet
any
new
capacity
needs
that
might
come
into
the
city.
K
It's
been
several
years
in
the
making
for
this
proposal.
We
work
closely
with
city
staff.
We
really
appreciate
their
help.
We
appreciate
all
the
effort
that
they
went
to
to
try
to
get
us
the
neighborhood
input
that
we
needed.
We've
made
a
lot
of
changes
to
the
proposal
as
a
result
of
those
neighborhood
meetings,
we're
requesting
that
the
commission
staff
accept
the
commission
accept
the
staff
recommendation
for
the
vacation
of
these
roadways.
I
I
But
the
red
lines
actually
are
are
rail
lines
correct
and
those
and
the
re
and
their
red
lines
that
are
being
used
by
the
railroad
and
then
there
are
other
lines
that
are
not
red
but
are
also
being
used
by
the
railroad.
You
talked
about
the
interstate
line.
I
think
my
question
is
this:
I
notice
a
number
of
the
rail
lines
north
of
euclid
avenue.
L
I
I
have
another
question:
the
staff
report
mentioned
that
there
would
be
that
the
fire
department
has
determined
that
there
might
be
the
need
to
use
dixon
avenue
at
a
time
when
it's
blocked
and
as
a
result,
there
would
be
a
flashing
light
that
would
warn
emergency
vehicles
to
use
a
different
route.
Is
that
concern
warranted.
K
M
Tom
patava
fire
marshal
with
the
des
moines
fire
department
when
we
were
asked
to
take
a
look
at
this
plan.
The
one
concern
that
we
had
was
since
we
would
not
be
able
to
use
delaware.
If
we
were
coming
from
station
number
three
to
get
to
the
northeast
say
at
luther
park
apartments
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
use
dixon,
but
knowing
that
there
was
a
train
crossing
at
dixon,
we
didn't
want
to
turn
north
on
dixon
and
get
to
that
crossing
and
find
out
that
there
was
a
train.
M
So
we
asked
for
some
type
of
a
signal,
some
indicator
at
guthrie,
so
that
we
knew
that
there
was
a
train
across
dixon.
We
would
continue
east
on
guthrie
to
east
14th
and
then
come
in
from
that
direction.
They've
indicated
that
they
can
do
that
for
us
and
with
that
we
do
not
have
any
concerns
about
responding
to
that
area
with
that
closure
at
all.
N
K
When
I
say
park,
I'm
saying
hold
a
train
while
it
was
to
go
into
a
yard,
so
we're
occupying
our
track
right,
but
there
are
road
crossings
that
go
across
our
track.
In
order
for
us
to
occupy
our
track,
we
do
not
have
any
place
where
there's
sufficient
space
between
road
crossings,
where
we
can
hold
a
train
while
we're
waiting
to
get
into
the
yard
or
to
get
into
the
yard
and
hold
a
train
because
of
the
number
of
road
crossings
that
exist
that
cross
our
right-of-way.
K
It
to
get
longer
rail
is,
I
can
tell
you
that
rail
is,
is
a
growing
industry,
because
it's
the
most
economical,
most
fuel,
efficient
and
cleanest
way
of
transporting
freight,
as
we
all
look
at
ways
to
try
to
reduce
our
carbon
footprint
and
reduce
the
amount
of
fuel
we
use.
More
and
more
industries
are
going
to
rail
because
it's
the
best
choice
to
get
freight
economically,
where
they're
going,
which
is
good
for
the
consumer
and
good
for
the
country.
Rail
is
continuing
to
grow
and.
N
My
second
question
is
about
the
flood
plain:
we've
done
a
lot
of
spent
a
lot
of
taxpayer
money
and
federal
money,
state
money
on
protecting
the
neighborhoods
and
the
flood
plain
I
and
now
you're
talking
about
an
alternate
route
for
flood
plain.
I
guess
I'd
like
one
of
the
engineers
to
explain
to
me
what
has
changed
in
that
area.
If
anything
has.
D
What
when
we
had
the
neighborhood
meetings
in
july,
there
was,
the
concern
was
raised
that
at
certain
times
the
four-mile
creek
to
the
east
and
the
seventh
ward-
ditch,
which
is
just
a
little
over
here
to
the
west,
are
flooded
onto
scott
avenue.
At
the
same
time,
we
reviewed
that,
with
our
storm
water
engineering
staff
that
went
back
through
historic
data
for
the
four
mile
for
the
ditch,
that's
been
more
based
on
observation.
D
Those
two,
those
two
problems
with
those
two
points
are
independent
of
each
other.
So
they
don't
always
when
one
floods,
it's
not
always
that
the
other
one
floods,
but
there
are
times
when
they
both
do
so.
That's
where
the
proposal
to
do
you
know
how
do
you
mitigate
that,
and
so
the
concept
of
of
this
emergency
access
road
that
public
works,
would
have
the
keys
to
and
maintain
came
into
play.
D
So
if
by
chance
here
by
the
softball
field,
where
it
comes
onto
the
road
and
then
down
here,
are
flooded
at
the
same
time,
then
this
would
be
able
to
be
accessed
and
come
down
to
38th
and
either
go
laurel
hill
road,
which
is
part
of
the
staff
wreck
we
can
cover.
This
is
proposed.
This
would
need
to
be
overlaid
and
this
would
be
a
full-time
crossing.
The
this
would
be
emergency
only,
but
this
would
be
a
full-time
crossing
to
be
365.
D
Yeah,
we
would
act,
they
would
and
we're
kind
of
jumping
around,
which
is
probably
fine,
but
if
this
project
moves
forward
in
the
city,
council
ultimately
says
yes,
this
is
something
we
want
to
do.
We
will
be
developing
an
agreement
with
the
railroad
and
that
legal
agreement
would
include
the
list
of
these
improvements
that
would
be
made.
We
they
would
actually
pay
for
them.
The
city
would
be,
we
would
be
constructing
them,
but
this
so
long
story
short.
D
N
D
D
We,
as
staff
have
looked
through
this
there.
There
are
things
that
need
to
be
mitigated.
We've
developed
this
list.
That
would
be
it's
a
part
of
our
recommendation.
We
do
not.
We
only
are
comfortable
recommending
approval
if,
if
these
improvements
are
made,
and
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
through
them-
and
I
can
show
you
where
they
are
impacted
on
this
map-
one
is
the
flashing
notification
that
was
already
discussed.
So
that
would
need
to
be
part
of
the
construction
b.
D
Is
lengthening
the
east
euclid
avenue
turning
lane
and
installing
a
left
turn
arrow
at
dixon
in
euclid.
So
how
well?
This
shows
up
right
now.
This
is
a
200
foot,
long
turning
lane,
so
it
would
be
increased
to
400
feet
and
an
actual
turn
an
arrow
right
now,
there's
no
turn
arrow
will
be
added
to
help
facilitate
with
movement.
So
that's
one
of
the
improvements
see
is
the
enlargement
of
the
dixon
street
whole
avenue
intersection
to
accommodate
truck
movements.
D
D
So,
as
that
indicated,
if
this
project
would
move
forward,
the
city
council
will
receive
whatever
your
recommendation
ends
up
being
and
they'll
have
to
a
decision
before
them
to
make,
and
that
will
be
either
to
at
that
point
make
the
decision
that
we're
not
proceeding
that
they're
not
interested
in
the
project.
The
other
decision
would
be
to
direct
staff
to
continue
to
work
with
applicant
and
to
iron
out
all
the
kind
of
contractual
requirements
that
would
ensure
that
all
this
would
take
place.
D
Other
we
we've
con,
we
were
continuing
to
look
at.
You
know
comments
as
they
come
in.
I
anticipate
that
we'll
have
a
lot
of
comments
tonight
and
perhaps
new
concerns
that
may
be
brought
forward,
and
you
know
we're
willing
to
continue
to
to
look
at
those
as
well
I'd
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
have.
R
R
D
S
Hi
jennifer
bohack
city
traffic,
engineer
city
of
des
moines.
We
basically
took
a
look
at
the
turning
radius
at
this
intersection,
and
this
is
kind
of
our
ultimate
scenario.
Here.
We
have
been
in
discussions
with
property
owners
along
whole
avenue
in
this
area
in
general,
about
this
project.
We
have
not
had
specific
discussions
about
right-of-way
and
right-of-way
purchases.
S
We
do
have
more
land
on
the
west,
and
so
it
could
be.
If
we
can't
and
on
the
kind
of
the
north,
we
can't
get
land
on
the
southeast.
Maybe
we
can
widen
to
the
northwest,
so
those
specifics
could
be
worked
out
that
could
kind
of
shift
or
slide
depending
on
how
those
negotiations
go
with
the
property
owners.
But
we
haven't
gotten
into
those
specifics
yet
yep.
S
Yeah
they
do
understand
that
a
lot
of
the
traffic
is
now
going
to
have
to
use
dixon
and
it
has
been
explained
to
them
how
emergency
vehicles
would
have
to
reroute
in
this
area,
and
they
have
especially
those
that
are
east
of
dixon.
A
long
haul
there's
been
discussions.
The
fire
has
been
at
those
same
meetings
with
those
business
owners
that
we
have
had
as
well,
so
they've
it's
been
communicated
to
them.
S
They
do
know
yeah
that
that
track
could
sometimes
be
blocked
and
the
amount
of
activity
on
that
track
south
of
dixie.
It's
a
spur
track
that
just
serves
a
few
businesses.
It's
not
a
regular
mainline
track,
so
the
amount
of
blockages
in
a
day
is
not
as
much
as
you
see
on
the
regular
main
line
track
is
how
union
pacific
has
explained
it.
C
Is
that
all
you
have
jason,
yes,
jason?
I
I
want
to
thank
you.
I
want
to
commend
you.
I
understand
that
you've
done
yeoman's
duty
on
this
on
this
work
and,
and
it's
been
a
lot
of
tireless
hours
working
on
this,
I
want
to
thank
you,
as
I
always
do,
staff
for
all
the
work
that
they
put
into
this
thanks
thanks
dan.
C
C
D
T
T
If
the
plan
changes
are
affected
due
to
reduced
wait
times
at
intersections
in
downtown
area,
while
3400
would
have
to
be
rerouted.
Additionally,
the
study
confirmed
an
emergency
response
to
the
area
will
not
be
affected
if
hull
avenue
is
closed.
The
proposed
section
along
the
tracks
adm
places
a
high
value
on
safety
and
the
safety
of
our
employees
and
the
safety
of
our
our
community
members.
We
believe
that
closing
crossing
at
hull
avenue
will
allow
for
safer,
more
efficient
access
for
trucks
and
rail
cars
to
the
local
businesses.
T
T
T
Because
of
this,
we
always
suggest
that
commercial
vehicles
use
a
route
which
will
allow
them
to
arrive
from
the
west
on
hull
avenue
when
delivering
or
leaving
from
adm
infrastructure
improvements
are
extremely
expensive.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
the
community
and
local
residents
to
benefit
from
private
investment
through
improved
roads
and
intersections,
coupled
with
less
wait
times.
T
In
addition,
the
total
public
or
the
total
private
investment
in
projects
related
to
the
success
of
this
project
and
these
road
closures
amounts
to
more
than
20
million
dollars.
A
significant
portion
of
this
amount
is
related
to
labor
design
and
construction
of
railroad
track
and
local
improvements
in
industry.
T
For
some
comments
on
further
economic
impact.
Edm
operates
a
facility
that
was
built
in
the
1930s
and
we
currently
employ
about
150
people
in
des
moines
and
more
than
2
000
in
the
state
of
iowa.
There
are
several
hundred
truck
drivers
that
earn
a
livelihood
and
support
their
families
by
hauling,
soybeans
and
products
into
and
out
of
the
adm
plant
on
the
northeast
side
of
des
moines,
these
soybeans
are
grown
by
more
than
four
thousand
farmers
across
the
state
of
iowa.
T
The
reason
the
production
from
so
many
farms
across
the
state
are
delivered
to
des
moines
is
because
the
price
levels
and
the
services
we
provide
the
single
highest
cost
component
in
getting
ag
commodities
from
the
field
to
food.
On
the
end
users
table
is
cost
of
freight
through
improved
rail
and
truck
infrastructure.
We
are
able
to
reduce
these
freight
costs.
T
Efficient
rail
access
to
the
destination
markets,
to
which
our
products
flow
equates
to
more
viable
business
environment
at
the
origin.
That
means
that
projects
such
as
this
not
only
improved
traffic
flow
for
des
moines
residents,
but
it
adds
sustainability
and
long-term
economic
impact
to
companies
like
the
union,
pacific
adm.
All
the
businesses
with
whom
we
engage
in
the
greater
metro
area
and
farmers
across
the
state.
The
social
and
economic
impact
of
infrastructure,
improvements
and
investments
is
large
and
far-reaching,
and
that's
why
we
support
this
project.
T
J
T
C
U
U
This
project
supports
a
lot
of
our
our
goals
and
our
long-range
transportation
plan
improvements
to
rail
infrastructure,
reducing
impediments
to
rail
traffic.
Rail
transportation
is
critical
to
the
success
of
the
transportation
system
in
the
region,
as
well
as
to
the
economy.
So
we
would
recommend
supporting
this
project.
We
have
to
answer
any
questions.
C
C
V
V
This
closure
also
cuts
the
small
business
owners
off
from
quick
routes
to
access
supplies
and
services
that
they
require
to
conduct
daily
business,
especially
disconcerting
for
the
businesses
that
I
have
talked
to
along
the
delaware
corridor.
East
of
the
railroad
tracks
is
the
fact
that
they
are
being
cut
off
from
the
hall
avenue
ups
service
center
on
the
west
side
of
the
track,
which
many
of
them
use
on
a
daily
basis.
V
I
think
it's
important
to
be
reminded
that
all
our
small
businesses
combined
employ
more
people
than
the
170
people,
reportedly
employed
by
the
railroad
and
adm
is
not
offering
to
add
jobs
with
their
expanded
capacity
that
they
would
be
allowed
through
this
project,
when
small
businesses
are
not
properly
protected
and
supported,
it
has
a
negative
impact
on
the
in
on
the
neighborhoods
they
reside
in,
as
goes
our
small
businesses.
So
goes
our
neighborhood.
V
These
people
eat
in
our
restaurants,
buy
gasoline
grocery
shop
and
buy
merchandise
at
our
retail
outlets.
The
impact
on
our
residential
neighborhoods
is
equally
destructive,
allowing
big
businesses
to
build
barricades
that
create
unsightly
dead-end
neighborhoods,
lowers
our
property
values
and
threatens
our
viability
and
sustainability
as
a
community.
V
If
we
are
serious
about
making
des
moines
a
desirable
destination
for
families,
we
need
to
consider
and
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
doing
things
that
require
us
to
default,
to
low
rent
housing
over
and
over
again,
what
family
will
want
to
buy
a
house
on
the
west
side
of
the
barricade
when
garden
elementary
school
and
goodwill
middle
school
are
on
the
east
side
of
the
barricade.
What
builder
would
ever
consider
this?
In
a
new
development?
There
are
serious
consequences
for
fire
and
rescue
services.
V
The
best
scenario
is
for
the
hubble
station
to
take
our
call
on
the
east
side
of
the
proposed
barricade,
but
that
is
not
always
possible
when
rescue
services
come
from
the
east
12th
fire
station
to
travel
east
to
my
garden,
neighborhood
euclid
avenue
is
not
always
accessible
because
it
floods
and
it
blocks
installed.
Cars
block
traffic
and
just
as
troubling,
is
the
guthrie
avenue
route,
because
there
are
three
speed
bumps
each
100
feet
apart.
V
V
Add
to
this
equation
the
fact
that
the
guthrie
overpass
ice
is
over
repeatedly
and
you
have
a
formula
for
disaster.
An
important
asset
to
our
neighborhood
are
the
luther
park,
apartments
and
care
facilities.
Many
of
us
on
these
side
of
the
tracks
have
elderly,
vulnerable
family
members
who
live
there.
Many
of
the
residents
that
I
talk
to
are
dismayed
that
the
city
would
consider
doing
this
to
them.
V
The
other
thing
that
is
disappointing
is
that
the
city
has
asked
nothing
of
the
of
the
railroad.
The
two
million
offered
to
the
city
to
widen
dixon
does
nothing
for
my
neighborhood
and
the
city
hasn't
asked
or
expected
anything
from
them.
We
have
a
beautiful
green
space.
We
have
a
small
park
in
my
neighborhood
that
sits
empty
because
there's
nothing
there
to
bring
our
families
back.
The
waiting
pool
doesn't
work
and
there's
scraggly
playground
equipment.
V
Approving
this
proposal,
perpetu
perpetuates
the
idea
that
those
who
can't
be
of
use
to
market
forces
and
big
business
are
considered
expendable.
This
ideological
framework
makes
our
east
side
neighborhoods
simply
a
drain
on
the
system.
The
issue
at
hand
is
not
the
viability
and
profitability
of
adm
or
union
pacific.
The
city
needs
to
protect
neighborhoods
from
the
insatiable
desirable,
insatiable
desire
by
multi-million
dollar
corporations
to
further
line
their
pockets
with
obscene
profit
margins.
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
W
W
We've
occupied
that
property
since
1964,
and
we
are
opposed
to
this
for
numerous
reasons
in
the
board
or
in
the
meetings
that
they
held
with
everybody
they're
talking
about
fire
and
rescue,
there's
something
that
didn't
come
up
tonight,
that
if
there's
a
train
blocking
dixon,
there's
also
another
rail
at
hull,
avenue
that
if
they,
if
there
is
something
at
dickson
and
they
have
to
proceed
up
to
14th,
come
down
hole,
there's
another
crossing
there.
What
if
that's
crossed-
and
they
don't
know
you
know-
we've
got
a
great
concern
on
fire.
W
Somebody
has
a
heart
attack
needs
rescue,
the
design
for
widening
dixon
and
hull
is
not
enough
for
what
that
area
produces.
If
you
take
the
amount
of
traffic
that
comes
in
and
out
of
there,
when
the
price
of
soybeans
is
up,
there's
way
more
traffic
than
that
area
can
handle,
it
can't
handle
it
now,
adm
part
of
their
program.
They
added
another
turn
another
lane
into
their
area.
W
For
trucks
coming
in,
that
area
has
been
open
and
since
it's
been
open,
we
still
have
trucks
parked
on
hull
avenue
waiting
to
get
into
the
plant
granted
the
moving
time
is
quicker
than
what
it
used
to
be,
but
there's
still
vehicles
parked
there.
So
now,
by
blocking
hull
avenue,
we
are
now
taking
what
we
were
getting
traffic
from
two
directions
and
all
congested
into
one
direction
creates
a
big
problem
for
rescue
as
far
as
we're
concerned,
there's
not
one
business
owner
in
the
area
that
is
in
favor
of
the
idea.
W
W
W
C
X
X
We
keep
getting
promises
that
30th
and
dean
were
continually
floods.
Every
spring
gonna
be
fixed,
never
been
done
when
it
floods
and
you've
got
30th
and
dean
and
you've
got
four
miles
where
you
turn
off
onto
williams
as
you're
going
east
on
dean
avenue,
and
then
you
make
the
turn
onto
william.
That
goes
down
into
four
mile
that
floods.
X
X
This
is
going
to
be
absolutely
no
different
and
it's
going
to
take
away
our
escape
route
during
this
flooding.
It's
going
to
take
away
our
escape
route
during
the
state,
fair
and
as
the
way
this
folk
first
said,
the
city
nor
the
railroad
have
offered
any
type
of
compensation
for
our
loss
and
property
values
by
letting
this
go,
and
if
you
will
burn
with
me
one
moment
this
has
far
more
reaching.
X
X
If
you're
anywhere
close
to
the
tracks,
they've
got
to
come
down
to
quote
their
yard.
The
last
gentleman
that
spoke
said:
let
them
park
their
trains
out
in
the
country.
There
is
absolutely
nothing
wrong
with
that.
They
can
put
out
two
or
three
tracks
out
along
there
right
away
and
they
can
park
this
stuff.
X
The
young
lady
spoke
about
putting
in
automatic
switchers
instead
of
manual
switches.
The
question
is:
why
haven't
they
done
it?
How
do
they
know?
What's
going
to
you
going
to
work?
They
don't
because
they're
sitting
here
wanting
to
have
their
cake
and
then
maybe
we'll
put
a
little
frosted
on
top
of
it.
That
is
not
right
people.
I
did
not
move
to
my
neighborhood
eight
years
ago
and
buy
a
home
to
be
cut
off
from
the
rest
of
the
world
two
times
a
year.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Y
Hi
jason
merkley
409
southeast
35th
street
in
des
moines,
which
is
currently
a
dead
end
street,
just
a
little
history
there.
I
just
moved
into
the
area
a
couple
years
ago,
but
have
been
in
that
area.
My
whole
life,
my
grandpa
lives
next
door
to
me,
has
been
in
the
neighborhood
65
years,
just
a
little
quick
deal.
Y
So
the
main
concern
with
security
is,
I
have
personally
had
to
run
people
off
of
my
street,
which
is
one
of
the
four
dead-end
streets
from
30th
street
to
pleasant
hill,
and
you
know
christmas
eve.
I
a
guy
was
dumping
over
at
the
at
the
ball
fields
and
there
there
is
no
emergency.
You
know,
there's
no
police,
no.
Y
Y
Security
as
down
in
that
neighborhood,
except
for
the
u.p
service
trucks
that
are
running
up
and
down
that
right-of-way
and
my
grandpa
has
been
working
with
those
guys
for
years
to
get
peop
keeping
people
from
dumping
on
that
right
away
down
there,
and
you
know,
with
the
manual
switches,
I
don't
ever
see
anybody
getting
off
the
train.
I
see
them
getting
out
of
their
trucks
that
they
drive
up
and
down
the
right
of
ways.
Currently,
you
know
that's
an
added
security
for
us.
Y
They
have
a
lot
of
lights
down
there,
but
my
concern
is:
is
major
safety
issues
and
emergency
personnel
to
be
able
to
get
down
there
because
most
of
the
majority
of
the
people
in
the
neighborhood,
I
would
out
place
an
estimate,
probably
55,
60
years
old
would
be
about
the
average
age
there.
You
know
it's
just
a
bad
idea
to
put
more
debt
in
streets
down
there.
That's
pretty
much
all
I
have
thanks.
Z
My
name's
don
kern,
I
live
at
2912
dean
avenue
and
I
agree
with
the
guy.
Why
haven't
they
already
put
these
automatic
switches
in
if
it's
going
to
speed
the
train
up?
I've
never
heard
nothing
else
said
about.
The
all.
I've
heard
is
what
the
good
is
is
going
to
be
for
the
railroad.
I
haven't
heard
no
good
said
about
the
people
that
live
in
the
area,
the
railroad.
I
think
u.p
came
to
des
moines
in
1995..
Z
AA
AA
AA
Not
very
long
ago
there
was
an
article
in
the
paper
saying
the
iowa
dot
has
put
a
grant
through
that
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
will
go
toward
the
updating
and
the
fixing
of
that
intersection.
So
that
leaves
a
lot
less.
That
union
pacific
would
be
doing
in
their
little
video
here,
their
powerpoint.
It
said
that
to
install
those
switches
would
take
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
install
those
switches.
Well,
there
you
go,
there's
one
in
one
million
dollars
right
down
the
tubes
and
already
spent.
AA
The
other
thing
is
that
union
pacific
has
abandoned
a
bridge
over
the
river
down
here,
south
of
the
city
and
the
article
on
that
said
that
they
had
agreed
to
take
that
down
at
no
cost
to
us.
The
cost
to
take
that
down
is
a
million
dollars,
there's
the
two
and
that's
without
having
the
intersections
up
at
hull
and
dixon
and
any
improvements
on
the
proposed
southeast
38th
street.
AA
AA
So
at
that
time
I
was
reminded
of
the
things
that
they're
saying
that
are
supposed
to
happen
to
make
sure
that
any
developers
and
any
expansion,
any
changes
are
good
for
the
neighborhood
and
while
and
I'm
going
to
just
quickly,
read
them
number
one.
It
says
ensure
that
new
development
does
not
have
an
exceptional
owner,
okay.
Well,
we
don't
know
that
it
will
demonstrate
new
development
or
expansion
will
not
only
protect
but
enhance
the
environment,
I'm
not
so
sure
about
that.
AA
AA
I
live
two
blocks
south
of
that
almost
three,
maybe
three,
but
my
grandchildren
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
go
easily
like
they
do
now.
Instead
of
walking
two
and
a
half
blocks,
they'll
have
to
go
a
mile
and
a
half
to
go.
It's
a
half
mile
to
get
to
30th
street
intersection.
I
live
at
southeast
36th
street.
It's
a
half
mile
to
get
to
that
intersection.
It's
another
half
mile,
just
to
get
across
the
viaduct
to
the
dean
intersection,
a
half
mile
back,
not
counting
little
extra
few.
AA
You
know
houses
here
and
there
that
are
going
to
be
between
that
to
go
to
the
pleasant
hillway.
It's
even
further.
It's
even
further
to
get
to
pleasant
hill.
Over
back
on
dean
up
over
the
hill
by
the
fairgrounds
and
down
I
mean
we're
talking
quite
a
ways:
kids
are
not
going
to
do
it,
there's
not
going
to
be
a
teenager
that
will
walk
that
far
or
go
that
far
when
they
can
think
hey.
I
am
going
to
cross
that
railroad
yard.
My
dad
said
he
used
to
do
it.
AA
People
you
read
about
people
doing
it
all
the
time.
That's
not
safe,
it's
just
not.
The
number
four
is
minimize
negative
traffic
impacts
on
surrounding
areas.
Well,
I
don't
think
this
is
minimizing
any
traffic
situation.
I
think
that
it's
just
making
it
worse.
Six
is
best
faith
efforts
to
hire
established
residents
and
then
seven
is
to
utilize
local
contractors,
and
I
hope
they
do
cynthia.
AA
H
AA
What
it
is
is
a
petition
that
we
had
drawn
up
for
the
first
meeting
of
just
the
neighborhood
that
was
in
august
sleepy
hollow,
hosted
it
for
us
and
so
the
some
people
that
were
at
that
meeting
signed
it.
And
we
anybody
our
our.
The
petition
basically
reads
that
anyone
who
uses
the
road
and
is
affected
by
it
is
able
to
sign
if
they
wish
or
not-
and
there
were
some
that
didn't.
But
I'm
saying
that
they're
definitely
out
weighed
by
those
that
did.
AA
AB
AB
Any
of
us
who
have
lived
on
the
east
side
for
a
long
time
know
that
we
have
issues
with
trains.
We
also
have
issues
with
rain
anyone
who's
who's
had
to
travel
from
the
east
side
to
the
to
the
west
side
of
the
tracks,
or
vice
versa.
If
in
a
heavy
rainstorm
you're
very
limited
to
how
you
can
get
around
university
has
been
closed.
I
understand
there's
pumps
there
now,
but
that's
very
low,
fills
with
water.
AB
But
it's
we
talk
about
economic
development
and
many
times.
I
wonder
and
I'm
beginning
to
wonder
more
and
more,
whether
we're
really
selling
out
our
communities
and
our
neighborhoods
to
those
words
there's
quality
of
life
involved
here,
access
for
businesses,
access
for
community
I
live
on
once
on
the
east
side
of
those
railroad
tracks.
I
go
to
grandview
university
for
many
activities.
AB
AB
AB
Should
these
intersections
be
closed,
and
I
think
there
are
some
questions
about
whether
the
funding
that
we're
talking
about
is
actually
going
to
cover
the
need,
the
improvements
that
would
need
to
be
made
or
if
we
will
be
shortcutting
those
improvements
that
are
needed,
so
I
speak
in
favor
of
those
neighborhoods
who
would
like
to
keep
these
intersections
open.
Thank
you.
C
AC
Name
is
marty
mock,
2701
arthur.
I
would
like
to
start
by.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
here
about
this,
but
didn't
want
to
speak
those
people
who
are
against
the
closing
of
the
streets
that
are
here.
Can
you
raise
your
hand
just
to
see
so
they
get
an
idea
of
how
many
people
are
here
trying
to
protect
the
neighborhoods
that
they
are
living
in?
AC
AC
You've
heard
a
lot
about
three
different
railroad
crossings,
but
has
not
nothing's
been
mentioned
about
the
other
closings
that
may
be
happening
at
these
railroads.
I've
asked
the
beginning
of
this
process
that
the
city
and
the
railroads
show
a
complete
composite
picture
of,
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
with
all
the
crossings
in
these
areas.
AC
I've
already
heard
from
a
couple
people
that
there's
at
least
two
more
closings
that
may
have
to
happen
for
for
them
to
get
the
closings
that
they
really
desire
from
this.
The
whole
thing
has
been
done
in
a
very
peaceful
manner.
It's
been
done
for
a
way
to
divide
and
conquer.
We'll
get
these
closed
here
now
we'll
come
after
these
a
little
bit
later,
we
may
have
to
close
easton.
We
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
do
with
hubble
avenue.
You've
got
dean.
AC
You've
got
grand
all
these
kind
of
things,
we're
not
even
talking
about
as
a
planet.
Zoning
commission.
I
would
hope
that
you
guys
would
say
no.
This
is
very
peaceful
planning.
Let's
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
find
out,
what's
going
to
take
for
all
these
railroads
in
the
future,
all
these
tracks,
all
these
crossings
and
say:
let's
look
at
it
in
a
big
picture.
Eastsiders
know
that
advancement
has
to
go
they're
not
against
advancement
but
they're
against
the
fact
that
they're
doing
it
in
a
peaceful
manner
in
a
divide
and
conquer
manner.
AC
AC
I
don't
know
who
did
the
negotiating
but
to
think
that
couple
million
dollars
is
paying
for
the
economic
economic
impact
of
the
east.
Siders
is
ridiculous.
It's
ridiculous.
What
really
needs
to
happen
here
in
this
long-term
thing
is
some
considerations
from
viaducts
to
keep
the
city
tied
together
in
a
way
that
allows
for
traffic
flow.
But
do
you
hear
about
any
kind
of
discussion
about
viaducts?
AC
We
really
want
to
keep
the
city
together
as
one
city
and
not
divided
into
two
cities.
We
need
to
seriously
in
our
long-term
planning
look
at
what
it's
going
to
cost
to
do.
Viaducts
they've
been
promised
to
people
on
the
east
side
for
years
and
years
and
years,
and
it
just
keeps
getting
pushed
off
and
pushed
off
and
pushed
off.
AC
AC
We
need
to
have
better
planning
and
what
I'm
asking
for
the
this
particular
body
is
to
send
it
back
to
city
council
and
say
no
we're
not
going
to
close
these
until
we
get
better
planning.
We
know
what
the
impact
of
the
city
is
going
to
be
long
term,
and
we
can
start
planning
to
be
able
to
benefit
the
citizens
who
are
most
severely
being
handicapped
as
a
result
of
this
process
and
finally,.
AC
When
we
look
at
this
and
we
start
planning
it
and
going
okay,
is
this
going
to
be
good?
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
have
economic
impact?
Are
we
going
to
have
this
again?
We
have
to
look
at
the
figures
that
are
really
being
promised
because
they
are
not
good.
Figures
talked
about
that.
Can
I
pay
back
of
adm?
I
think
that's
a
good
company.
I
know
that
they
want
to
be
able
to
be
improved.
AC
AC
No,
it's
just
going
to
be
easier
for
it,
and
if
the
railroad
was
really
serious
about
safety
issues
and
doing
that,
they'd
have
been
putting
in
those
remote
control
things
long
ago
to
save
on
the
wear
and
tear
the
engineers
have
to
jump
off
the
train
all
the
time
to
switch
those
we'll
give
you
about
one
more
minute.
Thank
you
to
switch
those
tracks.
The
reality
is
folks.
AC
There's
a
lot
behind
the
scenes
that
are
not
being
brought
up
because
they
don't
want
it
brought
up.
They
won't
don't
want
it
discussed.
What
we
need
to
have
is
the
ability
to
say
no
for
right
now,
go
back
to
the
drawing
board.
Talk
about
remuneration,
talk
about
a
long-term
planning,
talk
about
what
it's
really
going
to
cost
the
citizens
of
des
moines
in
the
long
run-
and
I
hope
you'll
do
that.
Thank
you
very
much
marty.
Yes,
christine.
AD
AC
AC
That's
our
expectation
is
when,
when
city
staff
is
sitting
there
negotiating
on
behalf
of
the
city,
we'd
expect
the
city
to
get
the
best
deal
possible,
and
so
when
we
know
that
there
has
to
be
viaducts
being
built-
and
we
know,
for
example,
nobody's
talked
about
east
and
east.
A
lot
of
money
was
put,
so
easton
could
go
through
and
now
there's
a
possibility
that
could
be
closed
down
the
line
here,
and
so
all
that
money
we
did
and
all
that
access
from
going
down
straight
downtown
on
east
avenue
onto
the
university
is
shot.
AD
AC
N
I
have
a
question
for
my
mari:
has
there
been
any
street
closures
on
that
side
in
that
area
that
could
be
reopened
in
the
past?
That
would
help
with
this
I'm
really
concerned
about
dead,
ending
these
neighborhoods,
because
that
really
creates
impact
on
neighborhoods
the
value
of
their
homes
and
is
there
any
other?
Is
there
no
master
plan?
For
this
I
mean
this
is
a
critical
question.
AC
AC
Again,
if
you
start
looking
at
the
little
details,
for
example,
the
practicality
of
hull
being
open,
I
mean
halt-
is
so
bad
at
an
intersection
right
now
that
it's
kind
of
like
self-fulfilling
prophecy
we'll
make
that
intersection
so
bad.
Nobody
wants
to
travel
on
anyway,
so
we
might
as
well
close
it,
and
you
have
that.
I
went
there
three
times
today.
My
mother
is
over
at
luther
park,
and
so
I
go
see
her.
I
do
take
the
whole
process
every
time.
AC
All
three
times
I
had
to
go
around
hull
because
there's
a
train
blocking
it.
One
time
there
was
30
minutes
between
the
two
I
went
by
it
went
to
luther
park,
came
back
by
it
again
same
train
sitting
in
the
same
spot
for
30
minutes
now
these
are
tracks
that
supposedly
are
supposed
to
be
open,
and
yet
again
it
doesn't
matter
if
those
streets,
you
know
if
they
think
those
streets
should
be
open
because
they
park
their
trains
there
anyway,
if
they
need
to
is
again
not
conducive
to
a
a
good,
friendly,
neighborhood
discussion.
AE
AC
That's
a
fair
question:
I
think
that
there
is
a
there
are
always
compromises
that
could
be
made.
The
viaducts
would
be
by
far
the
best,
for
both
sides
and
expectation
is
that
when
a
railroad
is
going
to
force,
cro
closings
along
in
a
neighborhood
and
they're,
only
going
to
be
required
to
put
you
up
five
percent
of
something
that's
going
to
benefit
them,
not
the
citizens
around
there,
then
there
should
be
a
reconsideration
of
of
a
negotiating
thing
is.
AC
You
had
to
talk
about
the
issue
of
again,
there's
no
guarantee,
for
example,
hubble,
which
is
the
most
used
area
there.
The
most
used
tracks,
there's
still
no
discussion
about
how
this
is
going
to
mitigate
hubble,
there's
no
guarantee
from
any
of
the
railroad
people
about
how
much
time
is
going
to
be
cut
off
at
hubble
or
how
long
the
trains
are
going
to
actually
be
because
they
got
to
slow
down
anyway.
AC
There
is
no
viaduct
of
grand.
There
is
no
viaducted
dean
scott
by
the
way
folks
scott's
done
already
like
was
said.
You
can
vote
on
scott
because
it's
already
been
closed,
but
the
reality
is
there
has
to
be
some
way
by
which
the
railroad
and
the
city
can
reimburse
not
reimburse
monetarily
reimburse
by
equality
of
life.
The
citizens
that
are
being
so
affected
by
this
closing-
and
I
don't
think
the
city
or
the
railroad-
has
even
scratched
the
surface
in
that
kind
of
discussion.
X
AE
AC
AE
AC
AF
My
name
is
valerie
madison.
I
live
at
2716,
samson,
west
side
of
delaware
and
one
thing
I
held
off
for
a
while
because
I
wanted
to
see
if
anyone
spoke
on
this
school
situation
garton
elementary,
we
have
a
lot
of
individuals
in
our
immediate
neighborhood.
All
they
do
is
just
drive
across
hall
across
delaware.
Their
kids
are
at
school,
well,
they're
going
to
have
a
big
mess
and
I've
got
a
lot
of
upset
parents
in
my
neighborhood.
AF
I
think
our
brothers
and
sisters
over
in
laurel
hill
mentioned
the
situation
with
schools,
and
I
all
I
could
think
was
was
willard
elementary.
That
would
affect
their
children,
and
this
is
a
big
deal
with
parents
here
and
at
this
point
too,
I'd
like
to
thank
suzette.
Thank
you.
I'm
not
a
religious
person,
but
I
pray
when
I
cross
got
three
two:
the
biodoctor
who
put
it
in
neutral
and
slide,
and
you
when
you're
thinking
of
parents
with
children
in
their
cars
come
on.
AF
AF
AF
Yes,
yes,
that's
right!
Yes,
okay,
anything
else!
You
know
you
know
a
little
personal
note.
I've
lived
in
two
houses
in
des
moines,
the
first
house
I
lived
in
the
freeway
came
through
okay.
That
ages
me
destiny.
The
second
house
is
a
house.
I'm
in
now
I
purchased
that
from
my
parents
estate
I
grew
up.
We
could
either
swim
in
the
basement
or
ride
the
rapids
in
the
backyard
because
of
the
flooding,
thank
god
for
neil
smith
and
a
few
others.
The
flooding
situations
have
been
improved
immensely.
C
F
John
morrissey
2913
oxford
street.
I
did
attend
one
of
the
public
meetings
that
the
the
railroad
held.
It
was
at
the
adm
plant
very
appreciative
that
the
adm
plant
made
accommodations
for
us
at
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
which
wasn't
exactly
the
best
timing
didn't
seem
to
me.
It
was
very
well
attended
and
at
that
time
a
representative
from
snyder
engineering
indicated
that
they
were
going
to
take
our
feedback
and
do
something
with
it
and
and
to
my
knowledge
I
don't
know
what
they've
done
with
it.
F
F
The
union
pacific
wants
to
posit
this
as
a
traffic
matter
and
it
started
as
a
traffic
matter,
but
your
jurisdiction
is
as
planners,
and
it
is
a
planning
matter
now,
because
we
are
impacting
neighborhoods
on
both
sides
of
the
railroad
and
it
is
within
your
purview
and
it's
in
fact
it's
your
duty.
I
think
to
determine
what
the
impacts
are
going
to
be
when
we
restrict
access
across
this
right-of-way.
F
K
K
Iowa
is
in
a
great
place,
with
a
good
economy,
we're
very
lucky
to
have
that
good
economy
we're
lucky
to
have
people
like
the
metropolitan
planning
organization,
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
make
sure
that
iowa
continues
to
grow,
that
des
moines
continues
to
grow.
This
whole
conversation
started
three
years
ago,
because
the
city
wanted
to
address
the
issues
that
have
come
up
on
the
east
side
of
des
moines
and
because
the
city
wants
to
continue
to
allow
des
moines
to
grow
and
to
expand
the
services
that
it
offers
in
rail
to
expand
its
economy.
K
We
committed
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
solve
the
problems
with
minimum
disruption,
but
we
know
these
are
tough.
We
know
that
our
solutions
are
causing
heartache
for
people.
We
know
that
our
solutions
are
not
going
to
make
everybody
happy,
but
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
a
lot
of
options,
addressing
a
lot
of
concerns
in
these
neighborhood
meetings.
K
K
We
are
going
to
pay
for
the
benefit
that
we
see
out
of
this,
and,
yes,
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
that
union
pacific
isn't
going
to
get
benefit
out
of
this.
Of
course,
we're
going
to
get
benefit
out
of
this.
That's
why
we
make
these
decisions
and
we're
going
to
pay
the
money
to
to
pay
for
those
benefits
that
we
see.
K
K
K
At
least
half
of
the
trains
that
are
in
the
des
moines
yard
originate
in
des
moines.
We
would
have
to
leave
des
moines
and
bring
them
back
here
in
order
for
us
to
to
stage
trains
in
the
country.
These
are
trains
that
are
produced
by
des
moines
businesses
by
people
who
work
in
des
moines
by
people
who
shop
in
des
moines.
These
are
des
moines
trains.
H
I
appreciate
all
the
time
and
and
energy
you've
put
into
this.
It's
it's
a
very
important
matter.
Obviously,
and
one
of
the
things
that's
really
standing
out
to
me.
There
are
so
many
neighborhood
associations
that
have
weighed
in
on
this
and
so
many
residents.
I
mean
just
the
comment
cards
that
that
came
through
that
we
all
we
all
looked
at,
at
least
for
me
personally.
H
It's
making
a
definite
impact
on
my
perception
of
this,
but
what
I'd
like
to
ask
of
you
is:
if
you
can
address
marty
mock's
request:
is
there
any
other
other
things
you
could
do
could
or
are
viadox
a
possibility?
Is
there
any
you
know
instead
of
five
percent,
could
you
go
up
higher?
What
what
could
you
do
to
address
the
concerns
of
so
many
people
that
have
have
weighed
in
in
so
many
neighborhood
associations
that
are
concerned.
K
K
K
We
have
taken
all
those
neighborhood
concerns
and
we've
got
run
it
through
the
experts
who
know
these
things
and
we've
said
you
know
what
this
plan
is
the
best
that
we
can
come
up
with
and
and
in
regard
to
mr
mock's
comment
about
the
train
on
hubble.
Remember,
I
told
you,
there
were
four
things
that
are
reasons
why
you
get
stopped
by
a
train.
One
is
that
corner
one
is
trains
that
serve
local
business,
that
train
that
he
was
stopped
by
today,
and
I
confirmed
it
with
our
operating
manager.
AE
I've
listened
to
a
dozen
citizens
representing
a
number
of
other
citizens,
raise
questions
which
I
catalogued
as
nine
general
issues,
you're
more
than
familiar
with,
all
of
them,
I'm
sure,
from
emergency
response
to
school
access
to
all
these
isolation
to
safety.
Everything
we've
seen
50
or
60
cards
go
by
here
that
you
probably
also
have
seen
or
addressed.
AE
But
one
thing
that
caught
me
was
that
you
said
we
discussed
a
lot
of
options
in
getting
to
where
we
are,
I'm
the
guy.
That's
looking
for
the
options
to
try
and
find
some
middle
ground,
and
I
I
hear
I
I
I
know.
On
the
one
hand,
railroads
aren't
going
to
go
anywhere
and
I
know
they're
the
lifeblood
of
many
of
our
industries
here
and
of
our
state.
I
get
that.
I
agree
with
that.
AE
I
know
viaducts
at
three
or
four
intersections,
probably
are
not
financially
feasible
and
are
probably
going
to
displace
a
lot
of
property
owners.
I
understand
that
I
think
I
hear
that
we
can't
dig
holes
underpasses
because
of
the
flooding
situation
and
the
water
table
in
the
vicinity.
So
now
the
railroads
aren't
going
to
go
away
big
picture.
I
understand
that
they're
going
to
be
here
for
a
long
time
we're
going
to
have
more
of
it.
That's
all
good.
We
can't
build
viaducts
and
we
can't
go
under.
K
I
would
defer
to
staff
to
go
into
the
options,
because
we
assume
that
you
don't
really
care
about
our
opinion
about
what's
the
best
way
to
to
deal
with
your
streets.
That's
not
our
job,
that's
not
our
business.
Our
business
is
to
say
here's
what
we
think
we
need
to
do
and
then
talk
to
the
staff
about.
K
What's
the
best
way
to
get
this
done,
for
the
city
of
des
moines
and
for
the
neighborhoods
and
the
staff,
as
mr
flair,
you
pointed
out,
has
been
tremendous-
has
put
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
and
work
in
this.
Given
us
a
lot
of
good
advice
about,
let's
go
to
the
neighborhoods
first,
let's
not
just
throw
a
plan
out
there
without
having
discussed
it
with
the
neighborhood.
K
Let's
find
out
what
the
issues
really
are.
We
did.
We
had
a
completely
different
plan
for
southeast
34th
and
southeast
36..
We
thought
we
knew
what
they
wanted,
that
wasn't
what
they
wanted.
We
completely
revised
that
plan,
so
I
am
not
going
to
tell
you
you
know
we
had
this
option
in
that
option.
We
weighed
it
and
we
gave
it
away.
K
The
fact
is,
we
went
to
the
city
and
said
we
need
to
try
to
improve
traffic
and
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
wait
a
way
to
continue
to
serve
des
moines,
because
if
we
can't
figure
out
a
way
to
serve
des
moines
des
moines
is
economically
limited,
and
that's
I
I
don't
know.
Yes,
we
like
to
think
of
it,
instead
of
you
being
stuck
with
the
railroads
that
you're
blessed
with
the
railroad,
because
the
railroad
brings
a
lot
of
economic
development,
but
not
if
we
can't
add
capacity.
K
K
C
K
I
think
I've
done
you
a
disservice
by
staying
staging
area,
and
I
tried
to
to
not
get
into
railroad
lingo
too
much
the
trains
that
we
are
saying
we
need
some
place
to
put.
Those
are
trains
that
are
that
are
on
that
line,
they're
on
that
line,
because
they're
either
coming
into
des
moines
to
offload
for
des
moines
customers
or
because
they've
been
built
here
in
des
moines
from
des
moines
customers
who
need
their
shipments
to
go
outside
of
here.
K
If
we
were
to
try
to
move
those
onto
an
industrial
line,
we
would
be
going
through
industrial
lines
by
their
nature,
are
not
high
speed
lines,
we'd
be
going
through.
Curves
we've
been
going
through
and
often
cases
a
lot
more
traffic,
a
lot
more
neighborhoods
operationally
we're
not
looking
for
some
place
to
store
a
car,
and
if
I
said
that
and
misled
you,
I
apologize
for
that.
What
we're
looking
for
is
some
place
for
all
of
that
traffic
that
we've
got
coming
in
to
serve
the
city
of
des
moines
or
going
out
of
des
moines.
K
K
Towards
broadway
right,
okay,
there
is
7
400
feet
between
hall
and
broadway
at
broadway.
Our
line
goes
off
to
the
north.
Trains
that
are
coming
from
the
south
headed
north
have
to
be
able
to
make
that
line
if
we
hold
them.
North
of
hull
standard
length
is
about
7
500
feet
and
again,
remember
that's
over
nationwide.
K
N
I
I
just
have
a
question
for
you:
you've
mentioned
that
you
started
talking
to
the
neighborhoods
at
staff's
recommendation
and
I
commend
staff
for
that,
and
I
commend
you
for
for
taking
their
advice.
But
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
here
is
you're
spending
two
million
dollars
which
to
me
is
chunk
change
I
mean
when
I'm
looking
at
this
big
picture.
N
I
mean
that
a
little
neighborhood
project
cost
us
more
than
that
and
have
you
given
any
consideration
to
doing
some
enhancements
in
these
neighborhoods.
If
you
could
come
to
some
agreement,
I
mean
for
the
railroad
to
say
we're
going
to
spend
two
million
dollars
to
all
of
these
neighbors
who
are
taking
a
decrease
in
value,
giving
up
some
security
in
their
neighborhoods.
Can
you
come
to
some
agreement
with
them
and
help
them
out?
It
seems
to
me
like
that,
there's
a
compromise
here
somewhere,
because
we
do
need
the
railroads.
K
K
AG
K
There
is
a
million
dollars
for
roadway
improvement.
We
essentially
we,
you
know,
we
started
off
with
an
idea
of
what
those
roadway
improvements
were,
and
it
was
going
to
cost
about
a
million
dollars.
Okay,
we
can
do
that
and
then
we
decided
after
a
neighborhood
input
those
weren't
the
right
improvements,
so
the
city
went
back
and
we
said:
okay,
we're
still
in
for
a
million.
You
figure
out
where
you
need
to
spend
it.
So
there's
a
million
dollars
for
roadway
improvements.
The
other
million
and
we've
said
this
consistently.
It
has
not
necessarily
been
reported
consistently.
K
So
I
apologize
if
there's
confusion,
there's
a
million
dollars
in
roadway
improvements
about
1.1
million
to
be
specific,
and
then
there
is
an
additional
1
million
in
improvements
to
rail
infrastructure
that
are
specifically
being
implemented
for
the
benefit
of
the
community.
Yes,
we
will
also
get
benefit
from
them.
That's
why
we're
paying
for
them,
but
we
would
not
implement
these
improvements
if
it
were
not
for
the
projects
that
were
undertaking
to
benefit
the
community.
K
Bridge
is
essentially
already
removed.
That
was
a
gesture
of
good
faith.
You
all
know
that
the
corps
came
to
you
with
a
new
proposal,
a
new
flooding
plan,
and
they
said
you
have
some
problems
and
one
of
the
problems,
one
of
the
constraints
down
there
is
that
abandoned
bridge
we've
been
working
with
the
city
of
des
moines
for
probably
10
years
on
whether
or
not
that
bridge
was
going
to
be
an
appropriate
bike
trail.
At
one
point,
it
was
listed
in
the
master
plan.
K
As
a
bike
trail,
we
were
working
with
them
to
determine
when's
the
right
time.
How,
when
you're,
going
to
how
you're
going
to
take
all
these
things
that
we
needed
to
answer
and
then,
when
it
came
about
that
the
corps
said,
that's
an
impediment.
The
city
has
very
few
options
for
how
to
improve
its
flooding.
We
said,
okay,
we'll
take
it
out,
we're
just
going
to
take
it
out.
K
AG
AG
First
of
all,
I
just
wanted
to
stress
that
a
lot
of
good
comments
tonight
that
was
the
purpose
of
the
neighborhood
meetings,
was
to
get
comments,
as
well
as
for
the
planning
commission
to
have
a
public
hearing.
All
the
comments
from
tonight
get
forwarded
in
meeting
summary
minutes
to
the
council.
For
for
any
consideration
of
further
action,
the
commission
is
making
a
recommendation
or
asked
to
make
a
recommendation
this
evening.
So
this
is
not
by
any
means
the
final
action
on
on
on
this
request
very
quickly.
AG
I
I
tried
to
kind
of
hit
some
highlighted
concerns
that
I
heard
this
is
not
to
at
the
detriment
of
any
other
comments,
but
they
were
just
ones
that
I
thought
maybe
staff
might
be
able
to
ask.
There
was
a
question
about
trains
blocking
dixon
and
there
being
multiple
crossings
that
might
be
impacted
by
a
train
being
blocked,
and
I'd
heard
that
there
was
a
signal
that
was
going
to
be
on
guthrie.
I
believe
that
was
going
to
alert
the
emergency
responders.
AG
D
I
believe
the
the
crossing
on
dixon
that
has
been
raised
as
a
concern
by
the
fire
department
is
down
here.
I
think
that
perhaps
the
gentleman
that
spoke,
maybe
also
was
talking
about,
maybe
the
crossing-
I
don't
know
if
he's
mentioned
hole,
there's
a
crossing
here
on
hole.
I
don't
know
if
he's
kind
of
talking
about
how
there's
multiple
points
within
the
neighborhood,
but
this
is
the
one
that
was
identified
by
the
fire
department
as
a
concern.
D
D
AH
AG
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
that
we,
through
this
process,
we've
been
working
with
our
the
design
section
of
our
engineering
department
and
they've,
been
providing
feedback
about
feasibility
and
placement
of
that
emergency
road
or
construction
of
the
38th
street
crossing.
So
we
have
gone
to
the
level
of
detail,
that's
beyond
just
drawing
a
line
on
the
map
and
assuming
that
it
can
be
done.
We've
made
sure
that
we've
worked
with
engineering
to
evaluate
those
proposals.
AG
AG
AG
D
Yeah,
the
within
this
area,
there
has
been,
I
mean,
a
lot
of
discussion
about
access,
north
and
south
and
into
the
park
this
to
the
north
and
they're
they're.
Really,
that's
just
one
of
those
things
that
it's
really
hard
to
sort
through.
I
mean
there's
as
as
you
know,
this
project
and
the
the
impacts
and
the
different
things
that
we've
tried
to
sort
through.
D
Have
you
know,
there's
been
a
long
list
and
we
had
the
big
notepads
at
the
early
meetings
and
we
wrote
everything
down
and
made
notes
and
tried
to
boil
it
down
to
kind
of
this.
What
like
jack
to
those
major
points-
and
that
was
one
that
we
were
able
to
come
back
and
provide
or
propose
that
38th
street
crossing,
which
will
it's
not
as
direct
as
34th
and
36th,
but
it
is,
does
provide
another
means
of
north-south
egress
besides
30th,
and
so
those
were
the
ways
we
were
trying
to
not.
AH
AG
S
Thank
you
dad.
This
question
came
up
at
one
of
our
last
meetings
and
spring
break.
2011
was
march
14th
through
18th.
Our
accounts
for
the
whole
avenue
study
were
taken
both
the
week
of
march
7th
through
11th
and
the
week
of
march
24th
through
30th,
so
the
week
before
and
the
week
after,
so
it
was,
they
were
not
taken
during
spring
break
was.
S
AG
S
D
AG
And
then,
finally,
there
was
a
question.
Well,
I
won't
say.
Finally,
there
was
a
question
about
the
meeting
that
was
held
at
the
adm
plant
and
they
were
told
there
would
that
their
feedback
would
be
analyzed,
and
I
guess
there
were
a
few
things
that
I
thought
were
in
the
report
that
were
was
information
directly
from
those
meetings
or
response
to
those
meetings.
One
was
about
school
impacts.
I
think
there
was
a
follow-up
done
with
the
school
district
to
ask
them
about
for
their
input
on
the
impact
on
the
schools.
AG
S
Yes,
that
is
correct.
The
we
worked
extensively
with
the
fire
department
to
see
what
their
needs
would
be
in
order
to
maintain
good
emergency
response
in
this
area.
As
far
as
the
schools,
we
did
contact
the
transportation
director
for
the
district
to
find
out
if
a
closure
at
hall
would
be
problematic
for
them
for
the
busing
and
other
things
that
they
do,
and
they
had
said
that
they
that
would
not
be
problematic
for
them.
AG
And
then,
finally,
I
guess-
maybe
I
don't
know
if
any
clarifications
you
know
from
our
legal
department,
but
as
far
as
there's
a
request
about
remuneration
to
private
property
owners
for
impacts
and
that
that's
really
not
the
planning
commission's
per
view
in
their
right-of-way
vacation
request,
and
I
don't
know
that
that
really
is
specifically
considered
the
private
remuneration.
I
guess
is
really
more
tied
to
the
public
improvements
where
we're
asking
for
those
public
improvements
like
the
right-of-way
acquisition
for
some
of
those
turning
movements,
and
that
would
be
a
private
negotiation
that
would
occur.
N
AG
And
I,
and
I
think
that
that's
something
that
clearly
the
council
can
can
look
at
as
to
whether
or
not
that's
that's
something.
That's
that's
part
of
their
consideration
or
part
of
their
decision
making.
I
mean,
ultimately,
the
council
has
to
decide
whether
or
not
this
is
an
acceptable
deal
in
their
minds
or
not.
So
I
think
that
that
was
a
majority
of
the
of
the
comments.
The
final
thing
was
just
a
request
that
it
be
sent
back
to
the
council
for
further
review.
AG
AG
If
it's
to
refer
back-
and
you
think
there
should
be
more
study
that
that
can
be
made,
but
I
I
do
believe
that
recommendation
does
need
to
be
made
back
to
the
council,
so
the
council
can
direct
what
they
want
worked
on
next
on
this
we've
tried
to
get
it
to
at
least
a
point
where
there
could
be
a
public
hearing
on
it
and
some
sort
of
recommendation
made.
You
have
the
staff
recommendation,
if
that,
if
you
think
that's
insufficient,
feel
free
to
add
whatever
conditions
you
think
are
appropriate.
Thank
you.
AI
Did
that
northern
line
that
was
going
up
to
ankeny
the
comment
was
made?
Has
that
been
looked
into,
and
I
this
is
probably
repeating
you've
already
said:
you've
looked
into
everything,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify
somebody
mentioned
that
that
line
is
being
abandoned.
Is
there
any
reason
for
that
and
why
isn't
that
being
looked
at.
K
The
line
that
goes
to
ankeny
essentially
serves
john
deere.
John
deere
in
ankeny
has
determined
they
no
longer
need
rail
service.
That
is
essentially
a
dead
end
line.
It
doesn't
do
us
any
good
for
the
traffic
that's
originating
in
terminating
in
des
moines.
There's,
there's
no
value
to
that
line
from
an
operating
standpoint
to
have
any
use
for
us
in
in
the
operating
issues.
You're
trying
to
address
here.
Thank.
AI
AJ
N
No,
I
I
just
would
like
to
see
more
study
and
a
master
plan.
If
there's
more
of
these
closings
coming
down
the
road,
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
have
a
master
plan
and
also
maybe
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
a
viaduct
or
in
other
cities
that
I
visited,
they'd
call
them
flyovers
and
to
have
a
price
actually
put
on
that
and
how
much
cost.
For
one
of
these
I
mean
if
the
city's
looking
to
conserve
its
neighborhoods.
I
I
If
we
say
yes
to
b,
if
we
say
yes
to
c,
if
we
say
yes
to
d,
it
comes
as
hardly
any
surprise
sometime
down
the
road,
we're
going
to
be
saying
something
or
other
to
a.
If
we're
going
to
do
something
in
a
comprehensive
way,
we
do
need
to
do
it
in
a
comprehensive
way
and
with-
and
my
thought
is
to
reiterate
what
cj
said-
that
two
million
dollars
for
a
project
like
this-
that
the
the
railroad
corporation
has
offered
is
a
paltry
number.
C
AE
The
requested
action
is
vacation
of
four
segments.
It's
presented
as
four
segments.
I
don't
know
as
we
can
do
it
piecemeal.
We
either
have
to
either
have
to
have
the
guts
to
affirm
the
city
staff
or
we
say
no
and
we're
providing
advice,
as
I
understand
at
this
point
in
time
to
the
city
council
by
our
vote
in
this
role,
city
council
ultimately
is
going
to
make
a
decision,
considering
our
advice
or
not,
I'm
not
so
sure,
breaking
out
a
b
c
and
d
greg
all
due
respect
accomplish
as
much.
AE
C
C
AK
In
a
railroad
business,
shall
we
say
my
father
worked
on
it.
His
father
worked
on
it
since
the
turn
of
the
last
century
and
I've
watched
what
the
railroads
have
done.
They
shot
themselves
in
the
foot
when
gas
was
cheap
and
went
with
trucks
now
they're
finding
oi
the
gas
is
expensive
and
we
need
to
get
back
to
the
railroads,
and
I
am
very
very
pleased
that
they're
beginning
to
wake
up,
but
in
doing
that
this
way
they
ended
up
with
a
situation
like
we
have
where
the
yard
is
the
houses.
AK
The
original
houses
were
all
built
around
where
these
people
worked.
So
now
they
have
no
place
to
expand.
That
yard
is
cramped.
They've
got
a
little
bit
of
space.
I
think
it's
kind
of
south
of
there
where
they
might
put
another
track,
but
there
is
no
line.
There's
no
place
for
side
tracks,
there's
no
place
for
anything,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
do
what
we
can
do
to
get
it,
and
maybe
they
can
buy
land
as
it
comes
available
heck.
AK
So
I'm
thinking
I
I'm
agreeing
with
jack,
we
need
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
tell
them
yes
or
we
need
to
tell
them.
No,
because
there's
just
no
way
we're
going
to
have
a
comprehensive
anything
when
you
don't
have
anywhere
to
go,
we're
going
to
have
to
nitpick
and
pick
away
what
we
can
when
we
can
do
it.
AL
AH
H
I
just
cannot
ignore
the
sheer
numbers
of
residents
and
the
neighborhood
associations
that
weighed
in
on
this,
like,
I
don't
think
we
can
ignore
that
I
would
also
say
jack.
I
I
support
what
your
position
is
as
well.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
us
helping
us,
refocus
and
focus
on
our
task
at
hand,
and
I
would
support
that.
AI
I
thank
everyone
for
their
work
also,
and
I
appreciate
what
jack
said.
I
think
we
need
to
up
or
down
all
of
it
and
based
on
what
it's
going
to
do
these
neighborhoods.
I
can't
support
it
and
I
also
have
a
question
for
mike
as
far
as
which
city
council
person
represents
this
area,
so
I
mean
they
appoint
the
people
on
this.
AI
C
I
C
AD
AG
AD
C
J
I
I
think
I
have
a
little
bit
different
take
than
than
several
folks
and
I'm
you
know,
I'm
not
going
to
thank
staff
for
the
work
that
they
did,
because
they
get
paid
for
the
work
that
they
do
by
the
people
in
the
city
that
are
in
these
neighborhood
associations
and
one
that,
when
the
that
pay
taxes
and
when
marty
mock
brings
up
the
fact
that
the
city
is
in
place
to
negotiate
for
the
neighborhoods.
He's
he's
absolutely
right.
J
Now,
whether
or
not
you
think
the
city
negotiated
correctly
for
the
neighborhoods
and
for
the
the
citizens
of
the
city
is
certainly
up
for
debate
and
always
is
no
matter
what,
but
the
and
the
term
economic
development,
I
think,
is
used
very,
very
much
too
often
and
is
probably
kind
of
a
throwaway.
Now,
and
we
say
it's
for
the
good
of
economic
development.
J
I
happen
to
be
a
huge
believer
in
economic
development
and
I
think
about
things
like
passenger
rail
from
chicago,
and
I
think
about
things
like
carbon
footprints
and
and
and
how
many,
how
many
trucks
that
that
that
rail
cars
displace
and
and
in
my
old,
I
used
to
work
on
on
hull
avenue
at
a
place
that
that
didn't
get
as
many
rail
cars
as
they
would
have
liked
to
have
had
because
of
limitations
and
the
trackage
and
and
what
have
you.
And
so.
Therefore,
trucks
were
needed
instead
and
they
cost
more.
J
Even
when
gas
was
a
lot
cheaper.
This
country
wants
railroads
more
so
than
they
want
trucks,
and-
and
I
I'm
not
going
to
solve
the
entire
country's
problems
with
with
a
couple
of
street
closures
in
des
moines,
but
I
think
from
a
from
a
to
say
that
we
haven't
planned
for
this.
I
think
is
inaccurate
to
say
that
the
city
hasn't
considered
a
lot
of
the
the
issues
around.
J
This
is
inaccurate
and
I
think
that
that
that
this
is
a
particularly
tough
thing,
but
I
I
just
can't
for
the
life
of
me
think
of
what
you
would
do.
Instead,
I
think
of
that
company
that
I
used
to
work
at
on
on
hull
and
how
several
companies,
like
it
over
the
last
25
30
years,
have
moved
out
of
cities
and
moved
out
of
industrial
parks
that
have
lost
their
rail
service
and
when
that
happens
and
you're
forced
to
to
find
a
location
that
has
rail
service.
J
AH
J
C
AH
AJ
I
have
a
last
word
since
jack
beat
me
up.
I
was
only
wanting
it.
I
was
only
wanting
it
separated
because
we
are
here
to
help
the
city
council
come
up
with
an
answer.
I
agree
with
the
lawyerly
comment
that
we
need
to
look
at
it
all
as
one
and
with
that
said
since
jack
beat
me
up,
I'm
going
to
change
my
view
and
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this
because
we
need
to
send
it
on.
AL
AK
AK
O
I
hear
what
joanne
is
saying
and
I
understand
what
ted's
motion
is
and
what
everyone
else
is
saying,
but
all
of
the
information
that
has
been
shared
here
this
evening
is
going
to
be
documented.
It's
going
to
be
forwarded
to
the
city
council.
They
are
going
to
hear
loud
and
clear
that
hull
avenue
is
part
of
what
everyone
once
looked
at
a
little
closer,
so
I
think
we're
just
kind
of
repeating
ourselves
when
we
break
it
down
like
that.
That's
just
my
opinion.
C
R
AM
D
AN
AL
A
AN
P
AO
AN
C
C
D
D
D
D
We
don't
feel
that
it's
the
appropriate
location
to
amend
the
land
use
plan
to
general
industrial
and
then
also
for
light
industrial
zoning
or
m1
zoning.
There
is
residential
development
in
the
area
you
can
see
on
the
map.
It
is,
you
know
this
area
is,
you
know,
is
kind
of
what
you
typically
think
of
for
highway
oriented
commercial
kind
of
development
c2.
AQ
What
we've
done
we
bought
this
property
a
couple
years
ago.
It
had
been
abandoned
for
about
three
years.
Prior
to
that
we
have
a
rental
property
business.
We
it's
mostly
single-family
homes.
We
are
operating
with
storage
out
of
that
facility
and
we'd
like
to
we've
put
some
rental
areas
in
that
we've
used
the
existing
buildings.
That
site
plan
is
the
site
plan,
the
there's
we're
not
planning
on
moving
any
buildings,
changing
any
of
that
direct
view
and
look
from
the
street.
AQ
What
we
have
done
over
the
last
two
years
is
is
on
a
beautification
site.
We've
we've
covered
what
we've
been
asked
to
cover.
We
met
with
the
lower
beaver
neighborhood
association.
We
had
them
tour,
the
main
building
and
the
entire
grounds
facility
to
make
sure
we
were
on
track
with,
with
being
part
of
that
neighborhood.
AQ
My
wife
is
here
tonight.
She
has
an
extremely
bad
cold
that
I
have
never
seen
her
have
that
bad
of
a
cold
and
our
daughter's
leaving
for
texas
permanently
tomorrow.
So
we
are
a
family-based
small
business
and
we
really
work
hard
to
to
fit
in
and
be
part
of
what
what
needs
to
happen
here
and
what
we
have
out
there.
AQ
We're
not
we're
not
dirty
we're,
not
noisy,
there's
less
traffic
than
there,
I'm
sure,
there's
less
traffic
with
what
we're
doing,
with
a
little
bit
of
things
that
we're
doing
than
there
was
with
the
retail
lumber
company
or
lumber
business
there.
So
we've
improved
visually
the
park
and
rec
department
has
never
complained
about
when
we
mow
along
the
between
our
building
and
the
the
bike
path.
That
is
not
our
property,
but
we
help
maintain
that
make
sure
we
we
look
at
that
visually
along
ml
king,
that
whole
long
building
stretch
that
he
showed
you
earlier.
AQ
We
are
quite
busy
erasing
graffiti
and
picking
up.
I've
learned
all
about
beer
and
wine
and
liquor.
I've
seen
plenty
of
things.
I've
never
seen
before,
and
it's
a
constant
battle
to
pick
that
up.
But
we
we
do
work
hard
to
pick
that
up.
So
we've
we've
tried
to
do
what
we
we
think
we
can
do
to
again
fit
in
visually
with
that
and
and
not
create
again
something
that's
dirty,
something
that's
noisy
and
problematic
to
the
neighborhood.
AQ
So
we
have
added
extra
white
steel,
which
was
which
complements
what
is
there
to
fill
in
some
gate
areas
and
some
areas
so
there's
again
to
to
add
to
the
attraction
of
that
or
or
or
don't
bring
in
extra
detraction
for
that
facility.
So
with
the
m1
we
can
have
our
general
warehousing
and
our
construction
storage.
We
would
like
the
ability
to
to
store
materials
and
equipment
outside,
as
as
as
it
has
been
in
the
past,
but
you
know
if
I
have
a,
I
have
a
machine,
a
dump
truck
something
like
that.
AQ
C
AR
It
down,
mr
chairman
distinguished
board
members.
My
name
is
come
on
dan.
My
name
is
brian
millard.
I
live
at
3920
leonard
drive,
I'm
I'm
the
here
as
the
president
of
the
lower
beaver
neighborhood
association
and
also
be
speaking
as
an
individual.
At
one
point,
I
believe
you've
all
seen
the
letters
went
around.
AR
AR
AR
If
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
area
over
here
is
the
old
target,
huge
investment
polk
county.
Just
did
it
an
awesome
building
river
place
up
here,
we've
got
plaza
lanes
and
trophies
randy
thompson
owns
a
lot
of
land
in
the
area
and
a
lot
of
businesses
and
everything
in
fact
we're
undergoing
the
revitalization
process
in
our
neighborhood,
and
he
is
a
key
component
as
a
business
owner
and
stuff.
He
was
very
concerned
about
m1
I've
reassured
him
about
who
the
individual
is.
This
is
a
trestle
trestle
trail
that
runs
up
there.
AR
Alongside
of
it
is
the
mlk
green
belt
that
the
neighborhood
developed
without
city
funding
or
anything
it's
the
largest
green
belt
in
the
city.
That's
done
that
way,
and
it's
almost
a
half
mile
long
and
where
it
ends
is
at
the
thai
village.
Another
awesome
development
in
the
area,
the
lower
beaver,
neighborhood.
AR
AR
AR
So
why
would
we
consider
an
m1
use
in
the
area?
Well,
we
like
the
applicant.
We
think
we
can
control
it,
but
what
it
has
to
do
is
go
through
this
body
and
be
denied
and
it
has
to
go
to
the
city
council
being
died,
it's
kind
of
weird
for
him
to
get
a
variance
to
do
the
things
he
wants.
He
has
to
go
this
route
and
he
has
to
go
against
what's
good
for
the
neighborhood
in
the
long
run,
so
we've
promised
to
help
him
when
he
gets
to
that
point.
AR
Certainly,
m1
is
going
to
make
this
very
easy
for
him
tonight.
If
you
guys
vote
for
m1
and
the
council
does
too
ken
gets
to
do
what
he
wants
and
he
probably
will
have
little
impact
on
the
neighborhood,
but
he's
not
gonna
he's
not
gonna
want
to
do
this
forever
and
he's
not
gonna
live
forever,
and
it's
too
bad,
because
we
need
people
like
this
around
we're
not
gonna.
AR
Do
anything
to
you,
though,
but
but
what
we
really
need
to
do
is
get
used
variants
and
we're
gonna
have
some
good
conditions
and
things
that
the
city
you
know
wants
him
to
do
like
landscaping
and
stuff
the
neighborhood's
going
to
do
on
the
right
away,
I'm
going
to
do
on
the
other
side
of
the
building
too.
Why
should
he
have
to
cut
up
his
property
in
his
lot
and
take
out
parking
just
to
put
in
landscaping?
AR
AR
I
urge
you
to
think
really
hard
about
this.
This
is
a
good
guy
and
I
would
really
like
to
see
a
recommendation
come
from
this
group
that
if
you
do
vote
it
down
that
you
send
on
a
recommendation
to
the
council
that
the
ultimate
use
is
going
to
be
a
use
variance.
So
we
can
get
that
through
all
the
way,
to
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment,
with
a
good
recommendation
that
this
is
the
right
thing
for
this
property.
AR
AR
Shortest
speech,
you've
ever
heard,
hey
and
I
gotta
say
this-
was
a
real
education
tonight
too,
and
it
was
coming
back
and
I
I
watched
each
of
you
and
I,
and
I
know
quite
a
few
of
you
pretty
well
and
I
was
impressed
with
with
with
what
you
guys
did
and
what
you
had
to
do
tonight
and
everything
stuff,
and
I
don't
have
a
big
corporation
that
doesn't
want
to
get
along.
I've
got
a
guy
that
I
know,
even
if
he
loses
he's
going
to
be
a
good
neighbor
to
the
neighborhood.
C
C
C
D
And
then
this
is
the
sheet
that
we
have
for
the
concept
plan.
The
update
this
is
an
existing
pud.
This
is
a
specific
use.
This
use
is
not
specifically
mentioned
within
the
pud
as
it
stands
now.
Therefore,
it
needs
to
go
through
this
amendment
process,
which
is
really
the
same
process
as
rezoning,
but
really
the
only
change
that's
proposed
here
is
specific
to
the
language
of
allowed
uses.
D
We've
reviewed
the
proposal.
We
think
that
it's
in
line
with
intent
of
of
the
the
pud
and
then
also
with
the
the
establishment
of
the
designation
and
land
use
plan.
We
are
recommending
approval.
We
do
have
a
list
of
conditions,
but
these
are
really
I'm
not
going
to
read
through
them,
because
they're
really
housekeeping
type
additions.
With
regard
to
notes
on
the
pud
they're,
not
you
know
such
as
identifying
buildings
that
have
been
built
since
the
original
concept
plan
was
approved.
C
AH
AG
C
AM
AM
It
was
interesting
after
we
had
the
discussion
that
they
did
vote
unanimously
to
support
it.
The
reason
being
is
the
way
the
recommendation
reads:
saint
gregory
holdings
owns
several
types
of
facilities.
We
own
health
clubs,
we
own
medical
clinics,
as
well
as
substance
abuse
facilities
with
about
100
beds
from
spirit
lake
down
through
western
iowa.
AM
When
I
first
read
this
because
I
belonged
to
the
neighborhood
association,
I
actually
was
going
to
vote
against
it.
Then
I
realized
it
was
me,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
the
fact
that
there
is
not
a
proposed
rehabilitation
facility
for
this
property.
We
are
purchasing
this
property
for
our
medical
practices,
which
provide
services
to
iowa
health
systems,
and
it
will
be
a
corporate
office
as
well
as
an
additional
medical
facility
which
provides
medical
services
and,
as
part
of
that,
the
state
calls
under
the
licensing
of
part
of
this
social
detoxification.
AM
Internally,
it's
a
medical
stabilization
unit.
We
have
a
very
unique
actually
it's
the
only
facility
like
it
in
the
u.s,
where
80
percent
of
our
patients
fly
in
from
la
dallas
miami
and
new
york
just
to
come
to
this
facility.
It's
currently
located
in
adair
iowa
because
of
growth
we've
had
to
relocate
it.
AM
Doctors
and
nurses,
stabilizing
patients
and
about
10
000
square
feet,
we're
purchasing
the
entire
property
and
we're
gonna
they'll,
be
there
for
two
to
five
days
under
the
care
of
doctors
and
nurses
during
this
stabilization
period,
about
five
thousand
square
feet
for
corporate
headquarters
for
the
medical
clinic
operation
and
then
actually
a
medical
clinic
for
growth,
because
we
have
a
medical
clinic
currently
across
the
street
from
valley
high
school,
that's
already
going
to
be
operating
at
capacity,
so
we're
looking
to
increase
our
at
an
additional
clinic
at
this
location.
Did
you.
AM
AE
AD
AM
When
we
talk
about
outpatient
again,
it
may
be
semantics,
but
it's
from
a
medical
clinic
aspect.
So
so
some
of
these
people
that
are
coming
to
the
medical
clinic,
this
is
not
licensed
as
a
substance.
Abuse
treatment
that
clinic
is
does
not
provide.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
screen
patients
and
then
refer
them
off
to
substance
abuse
treatment
in
that
clinic
okay.
C
AD
C
O
And
and
mr
chairperson,
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment.
I'm
sure
that
mr
vasquez
heard
the
laughter
roar
when
you
made
mention
about
something
coming
before
your
neighborhood
association
and
that
you
were
a
member.
My
heart
was
made
glad.
There
is
still
hope
when
people
stay
involved
in
their
neighborhoods
and
they
know
what's
going
on
and
they
come
and
they
hear
firsthand
it
makes
a
huge
difference
in
the
outcome
makes
our
job
a
lot
easier.
C
C
Item
number:
seven
requests
from
st
howard
development,
represented
by
steve
howard,
for
approval
of
a
preliminary
minor
subdivision
flat
411
tawanda
on
property,
located
at
411
tawanda
drive
to
subdivide
the
2.54
acre
property
into
1.79,
acre
parcel
with
existing
family
single-family
dwelling
on
a
.078
acre
parcel
subject:
property
is
owned
by
susan.
I
can't
read
it
malhot.
Okay,.
D
D
D
The
one
thing
to
point
out
here
is
that
you
know
this:
these
lots
meet
zoning
and
stuff.
The
reason
this
is
before
you
is
essentially
is
because
of
to
extend
a
water
main
to
this
lot,
which
is
within
the
vicinity,
but
it's
not,
it
will
have
to
happen.
It
does
require
a
preliminary
plat
comes
before
you.
If
that
line
had
been
in
place,
this
would
have
been
done
through
our
plat.
A
survey
process
administratively.
D
In
reviewing
this
really,
we
only
had
one
note
that
we
wanted
to
have
added
to
the
plat.
You
know
it's
a
wooded
lot.
It
is
subject
to
our
mitigate
tree
mitigation
ordinance,
but
in
addition,
we
have
a
note
that
we
are
recommending
be
added
to
the
plot
that
basically
states
that
no
tree
removal
or
grading
shall
occur
on
the
site
until
such
time
that
a
plot
plan
for
the
future
consideration
of
a
single
family
dwelling
in
the
driveway
has
been
approved
by
the
planning
administrator.
C
N
Hasn't
has
a
neighborhood
weighed
in
on
this
or
anything
or
is
this
not
cards?
Not
they
not
notified,
or
I
mean.
I
think
this
is
a.
This
is
a
huge
project
for
being
this
close
to
salisbury
house
and
a
large
amount
of
land,
and
I
don't
see
anybody
here
that
unless
you
guys
are
oh
you're,
the
applicant
okay,
so
I
just
I
just
wondered
you
know
if
the
neighborhood
had
been
notified.
N
D
C
G
G
G
I
G
R
This
was
part
of
the
original
estate
and
this
home
that's
going
to
remain.
Most
of
it
was
built
by
a
son
of
carl
and
edith
week's
name
hud
weeks,
and
it's
two
lustron
homes
that
were
tied
together
and
that's
still
pretty
much
intact,
but
yeah.
It
was
originally
part
of
the
estate,
but
I
think
it
was
parceled
off
a
long
time
ago.
So.