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A
All
right
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
here,
it's
just
after
six
o'clock
here
I
know
we
still
got
some
more
people
trickling
in
here
again.
This
is
for
to
discuss
the
university
avenue
corporate
improvements
31st
street
to
48th
street.
I
just
want
to
cover
some
of
the
typical
instructions.
This
meeting
is
on
zoom.
A
We
are
recording
the
meeting
that
way
it
can
be
viewed
at
a
later
time
as
well,
for
if
there
are
folks
that
were
not
able
to
attend
or
or
want
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
meeting
it'll
be,
it
is
being
recorded,
we'll
post,
that
on
the
website
on
our
city
webpage,
just
some
general
instructions
for
for
zoom
if
you're
on
a
computer,
hopefully
you
see
a
menu
bar
kind
of
like
the
one
shown
right
on
the
middle
of
the
screen
here,
where
you
can
click
on
the
participants
tab
and
that
participants
tab
will
give
you
some
options
to
raise
hand
and
lower
hand
so,
and
so
so,
that'll
that'll
allow
you
to
raise
and
lower
your
hand,
and
then
that
way
we
can
run
the
meeting
in
orderly
fashion.
A
Give
other
folks
time
to
speak
and
and
and
not
interrupt
each
other,
and
so
again
we
ask
that
you
raise
your
hand
if
you'd
like
to
speak
and
if
you
want
to
lower
your
hand,
there's
a
command
to
lower
your
hand
as
well,
if
you're
on
a
cell
phone
you're
on
a
phone
and
you
press
star,
nine
to
raise
your
hand
and
to
mute
and
unmute
yourself
press
star
six.
A
So
again,
if
you're
on
a
phone,
I'm
not
seeing
if
there
are
folks
that
are
on
a
phone
yet
or
not,
it
looks
like
well
there
might.
There
may
be
one
yeah.
So
if
you're,
if
you're
on
a
phone
star,
nine
to
raise
your
hand,
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand
and
then
star
six
to
to
mute
or
unmute
yourself
so
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand
star
six
to
mute
or
unmute
yourself,
otherwise,
folks
that
are
on
the
computer.
You
know
again,
please
see
on
the
screen
there.
A
There's
a
participants
tab
that
you
can
click
on
to
to
to
raise
your
hand
and
lower
your
hand.
So.
B
A
All
right,
so
my
name
I'll
start
off
with
my
name
is
steve:
nabor,
I'm
the
city,
energy
city,
engineer
for
the
city
of
des
moines,
also
a
des
moines
resident,
and
I
have
with
me
a
whole
bunch
of
a
number
of
city
staff
on
the
call
from
different
departments,
from
planning
to
engineering
and-
and
so
I
got
a
number
of
team
members
with
me
as
well.
I
do
I
do
note.
We
have
some
of
our
our
council
members.
A
Councilmember
carl
boss
is
also
on
the
phone
with
us
as
well
see
if
I'm
missing
anybody,
that's
on
the
phone
as
well,
but
so
again,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
joining
us
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
university
avenue
corridor
improvements,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
give
a
quick
presentation
here.
I'm
gonna
give
you
some
background
and
why
the
project
is
put
before
us
here.
A
Why
we're
proposing
that
the
project
and
and
then
we're
gonna
look
at
dave
camp
is
gonna
help
me
with
with
kind
of
going
through
some
of
the
proposed
improvements,
the
details
and
the
schedule
and
then
we'll
then
we'll
we'll
we'll
stop
for
questions
and
comments.
So
so,
okay,
yep
and
I
see
we
also
have
some
more
council
member
josh
mandelbaum
has
has
joined
us.
Thank
you.
Councilmember
mandelbaum,
councilmember,
indira,
schumacher.
A
And
joined
us,
so
let's
see
here,
okay,
all
right!
So
thank
you,
council
members,
shoemaker,
mandelbaum
and
vos
for
for
for
joining
us.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
here.
Okay,
all
right!
So
a
little
bit
of
background
in
2019
university
avenue
from
63rd
to
55th
was
converted
to
a
three-lane
roadway
with
a
center
left
turn
lane.
A
This
was
done
kind
of
with
that,
when
the
the
old
pedestrian
bridge
near
windsor
elementary
was
replaced
with
a
high-intensity
activated,
crosswalk
and
refuge
island
that
you
see
today
in
2019.
Also
university
avenue
from
55th
to
48th
was
converted
to
three
lanes,
and
then
the
multi-use
trail
was
added
along
the
wavelength
golf
course
in
2020
university
avenue
from
31st
to
25th
street
was
converted
to
a
from
a
five
lane
to
a
three-lane
roadway
section
with
the
center-left
turn
lane
and
and
on-street
bike
lanes.
A
This
was
done
in
coordination
with
a
streetscape
plan
that
was
developed
by
drake
university
and
the
city
at
the
time
had
a
had
a
large
sewer
project
that
was
going
through
this
segment,
and
so
this
was
a
pro
effort
that
was
coordinated
between
drake
and
and
the
city.
A
So
why
are
we
here
to
talk
about
this
project,
this
particular
section?
Well,
the
main
the
main
goal
of
this
project
is:
is
roadway
safety
and
multimodal
accessibility.
So
so
we
talk
about
safety,
you
know
reducing
unsafe
corridor
speeds
and
vehicular
maneuvering.
That's
that's
really!
That's
one
of
the
big
focuses
in
goals
of
this
project.
A
We
there
was
a
traffic
study
that
was
done
by
a
private,
consulting
firm
that
looked
at,
took
speed
radar
data
showing
that
the
85th
percentile
speeds,
which
is
speeds
at
which
85
percent
of
people
are,
are
traveling
at
or
are
at
at
at
generally
30
miles
an
hour
39
miles
an
hour
and
37
miles
an
hour
in
this
30
mile
an
hour
speed
limit
area,
so
the
actual
radars
were
set
up
between
45th
and
46th,
and
so
that
that's
a
those
are,
those
are
high
numbers.
A
Those
are
high
numbers
for
definitely
for
a
corridor
that
that
goes
so.
This
is
the
space
key
right
through
oops.
Sorry,
let
me
get
everyone
to
get
some
folks
that
maybe
were
got
unmuted
here
and
it
so
that's.
Those
are
high
speeds
that
for
for
a
quarter
that
goes
right
through
the
heart
of
of
of
two
of
our
very
large,
our
large
neighborhoods
in
waveland
park
and
drake,
and
so
so
speed
reduction
of
the
goal
there
improving
pedestrian
crossing
different
distance.
Obviously,
today
you
know
again.
A
This
goes
right
through
the
heart
of
our
neighborhoods,
two
large
neighborhoods
and
and
and
in
reducing
the
cross
section
to
a
a
three
lane,
shortens
the
pedestrian
crossing
distances.
So
we'll
show
that
graphically
here
in
a
little
bit
and
then
also
this
is
on
our
our
our
core
bike
network.
So
we
would
look
to
also
add
reallocate
the
space
for
the
lanes
to
add
dedicated
bicycle
facilities,
so
so
again,
safety,
road
diets,
the
they
if
you're.
If
you're
you
know
road
diets
have
been
proven
nationally
and
locally.
A
A
Why
is
this
project
needed?
We
also
want
to
provide
a
consistent
right-sized
corridor.
Okay,
the
vehicular
traffic
volumes
that
have
been
collected
multiple
times
along
this
quarter
by
us
and
and
iowa
dot
for
their
accounts,
the
the
daily
volumes
range
between
ten
thousand
and
fifteen
thousand
vehicles
a
day.
This
is
well
well
within
the
capacity
of
a
three-lane
roadway,
three-lane
roadways
generally
can
hold,
can
handle
about
twenty
thousand
vehicles
a
day.
A
We
then
also
look
at
the
the
metropolitan
planning
organization
who
does
modeling
for
and
future
planning,
that
modeling
shows
that
the
2040
volumes
are
about
17
000
vehicles
a
day
so
again,
still
well
well
within
the
capacity
of
the
roadway.
So,
okay.
A
So
again,
when
you
talk
about
priming,
a
consistent
corridor,
the
the
roadway
has
already
been
is:
is
three
lanes
between
48th
and
63rd
street,
so
here's
shown
in
purple
and
the
roadway
is
already
three
lanes
between
31st
and
25th
shown
in
blue.
So
so
this
is
kind
of
looking
at
that
middle
section
there.
So,
okay
and
then
another
component
of
this
project
is
to
improve
pavement
condition
and,
and
so
the
this
project
would
include
resurfacing,
rehabilitating
the
roadway
as
well
oops.
A
Okay,
we
do
look
at.
We
have
our
planning
documents.
Move
dsm
is
the
city's
transportation
master
plan
that
was
approved
in
2018,
so
we
that's.
That's
a
a
an
awesome
document
that
we
use
anytime.
We
have
a
roadway
project
such
as
this
one.
Where
we
have
you
know,
we
have
we're
looking
at
improving
the
roadway
surfacing,
the
roadway
reconstructing
the
roadway.
We
we
we
stopped
first
thing
stop
and
look
at
that
document
to
see
what
does
our
roadway
want
to?
What
should
our
roadway
look
like?
What
is
it?
A
What
are
some
of
the
needs
from
our
planning
documents,
and
so
this
this
roadway
goes
to
a
number
of
nodes,
and
it
is,
it
is
on
the
core
bike
network.
It
is
on
the
it
is
on
our
transit.
It
is,
does
have
transit
routes
along
it,
our
dart
bus
routes
along
it,
so
it
so.
It
is
also
a
truck
route,
an
emergency
vehicle
route.
So
these
are
things
that
we
we
you
know
to
to
look
at
from
a
planning
standpoint
whoops.
A
So
here's
a
general
proposal
of
what
we're
we're
looking
at
and
so
we're
the
existing
roadway
is.
Is
five
ten
foot
wide
lanes?
A
A
That's
that's
for
the
emergency
response
and
and
and
truck
route
capabilities
or
to
accommodate
those
those
factors,
and
then
a
center
bi-directional
left
turn
lane
and
then
we'd
be
adding
bike
lanes
on
each
side
of
the
road
that
which
are
separated
by
a
3
foot
wide
buffer.
So
that's
the
general,
the
the
general
existing
and
proposed
cross
section.
B
A
All
right
and
then
looking
at
it
kind
of
by
segment
by
segment.
This
is
this
is
looking
at
just
kind
of
some
highlights
of
of
what's
been
proposed
west
of
47th
street
and
so
we're
looking
at
again
converting
to
the
three
lane
and
then
connecting
to
that
shared
use,
pedestrian
trail
as
well,
and
then,
in
this
case
we
are
proposing
to
maintain
the
front
end
angled
parking.
A
We
have
had
a
handful
of
meetings
with
various
stakeholders
in
the
pa
in
the
past,
about
this
project
and
and
and
we're
looking
at
at
the
back
and
angle
parking
based
on
those
those
meetings
and
and
those
discussions
we
are,
we
are
proposing
to
maintain
the
front
end
angle,
parking
that
you
see
today
between
48th
street
and
polk
boulevard,
and
then
one
change
would
be
a
right
turn
in
and
out
only
at
47th
street
and
signal
improvement.
So
we'll
show
a
graphic
here
that.
A
C
D
Sure
sure
I
can
step
through
the
rest
of
the
project,
thanks
everybody
for
joining
us
today.
My
name
is
dave
camp.
I'm
the
chief
design
engineer
with
the
city
we're
going
to
just
it's
a
very
long
quarter,
so
we're
just
going
to
step
you
through
the
corridor
and
kind
of
talk
about
each
area
and
then
once
we
get
done,
we
can
kind
of
open
it
up
for
questions
for
folks,
and
so
this
this
project
on
the
west
end
actually
starts
where
the
previous
work
ended.
D
This
is
also
being
in
developed
in
coordination,
with
the
trolley
plaza,
that's
being
developed
right
just
to
the
east
of
the
waveland
golf
course
entrance
at
the
west
end
of
this
area.
So
so
this
this
section
of
roadway,
it
really
provides
on-street
parking
on
the
north
side
of
the
roadway
near
the
west
end.
It
extends
the
multi-use
trail
all
the
way
from
where
we
ended
it
near
the
wavelength
golf
course
on
the
south
side
over
to
polk
boulevard.
D
It
also
provides
for
re-establishing
some
of
the
head-in
parking
at
the
business
area
or
business
hub
at
just
west
of
polk
boulevard
there
on
the
north
and
south
side
of
the
of
the
roadway.
D
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
section
sections
below
that
kind
of
shows
it's
going
from
a
five
lane
with
a
two
lane
in
each
direction
down
to
a
one
lane
in
each
direction,
exactly
how
it
looks
off
to
the
west
of
this
area
as
well.
So
we'll,
if
you
want
to
skip
down
to
the
next
slide,
this
kind
of
gives
you
a
little
bit
different
views
of
this
area
and
how
what
is
possible
through
this
area.
D
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
a
rendering
showing
you
know
a
little
bit
more
detail
than
just
the
drawing
that
we
showed.
So
these
are
views
and
if
you
want
to
step
through
it,
we'll
get
a
better
view
of
some
of
these
renderings
to
the
next
slide.
A
Okay,
and
as
dave
mentioned,
I
just
want
to
you
know
these
are
these
are
graphics
that
we
had
a
consultant
team
and
our
planning
folks
draft
up
of
kind
of
what
the
area
could
could
look
like.
Ultimately,
our
the
roadway
project
that
is
is
currently
funded
is
focused
is
on
focused
on
the
roadway
improvements,
the
trail
and
the
roadway
improvements
it
does
it
would.
It
does
not
have
elements
like
the
the
columns
here
in
the
decorative
lighting
and
landscaping.
A
I
wanted
to
just
make
sure
we're
clear
on
that
that
this
was
a
visionary
document
that
what
what
the
node
area
could
be
the
roadway
project
doesn't
is.
Is
it
doesn't
have
the
funding
for
those
streetscape
decorative
type
elements
just
to
to
make
sure
we're
transparent
on
that?
So.
D
Okay,
so
so
yeah,
so
it's
b,
these
are
just
some
various
views
through
the
the
area.
This
one
is
actually
looking
east
from
the
waveland
golf
course
entrance
you're
kind
of
up
high
looking,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
we've
added
parking
on
the
north
side
of
the
roadway
there
or
the
left
of
your
screen
and-
and
you
can
see
the
multi-use
trail
on
the
on
the
south
side
of
the
roadway
or
the
right
hand
of
your
side
of
your
screen.
D
So
this
just
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
a
different
view
on
the
next
slide
is
looking
east,
as
if
you
were
above
48th
street,
really
focused
on
that
business
area,
as
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand
of
the
screen,
the
trying
to
delineate
between
the
sidewalk
area
and
the
trail
usage
by
using
different
colors
on
the
bike
trail
system,
and
also
you
see
the
head-end
parking
through
through
the
area
similar
to
what
it
is
today
so
and
the
next
slide
is
actually
looking
east.
D
If
you
were
above
polk
boulevard
there,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
47th
street
and
how
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
leave
in
and
out
today,
so
we're
proposing
a
median
there
to
restrict
the
the
left
turn
movements
from
47th
street
onto
university.
D
So
this
actually
creates
the
intersection
at
folk
boulevard
that
functions
normally
you
can.
You
can
pull
up
that
that
does
come
with
creating
47th
street
as
a
in
right
out
only
but
right
as
today,
you're
not
quite
sure
where
to
stop
when
you
pull
up
to
that
intersection,
so
that
that
provides
a
little
bit
of
a
benefit
and
a
safety
feature
as
part
of
the
project.
D
So
the
next
line
now
we're
kind
of
we're
gonna
shift
beyond
47th
to
the
east.
Looking
toward
42nd
street,
there
again
we're
converting
from
a
five
lane
to
a
three
lane,
with
a
two-way
center
left
turn
lane
and
on
street
buffered
bicycle
lanes.
D
There
is
some
an
improved
pedestrian
crossing
and
dart
stop
near
45th
street,
which
we'll
kind
of
see
in
the
graphic
here
so
this
is
this
is
the
view
of
kind
of
what
the
what
it
looks
like
from
the
47th
streets
off
to
your
screen
to
the
left
and
42nd
streets
off
to
the
screen
to
the
right.
So
I
know
a
lot
of
comments
came
in
about.
D
We
need
a
better
crossing
in
this
vicinity
and
that's
where
the
enhanced
pedestrian
crossing
would
be
this
crossing
is
would
be,
would
have
a
pedestrian
refuge
and
and
some
signage
it
would
not
be
a
signalized
crossing
per
se.
So
moving
on
to
the
next
section,
this
is
another
section.
The
the
area
back
at
40
at
polk,
boulevard
and
and
university,
and
this
area
from
42nd
to
41st
are
part
of
the
nodes
of
the
invest
dsm.
D
So
these
are
focused
in
from
from
some
of
our
folks
to
enhance
these
areas
as
focal
points
of
the
corridor
as
well.
So
this
we're
looking
between
42nd
and
41st.
D
It's
also
converting
it
down
to
a
three
lane
with
the
left
turn
lane
and
the
off
street
off
street
bicycles,
because,
as
you'll
see
from
the
graphic
keeping
it
on
the
street
creates
some
confusion
there
near
the
signals
and
the
42nd
street
is
looking
to
improve
some
signals
and
also
address
some
of
the
dart
stops
and
and
41st
to
39th,
also
kind
of
going
back
to
that
five
lane
to
three-lane
conversion
back
to
on-street
bicycle
lanes
with
the
improved
crossing
pedestrian
crossing
near
39th
street.
D
So
looking
at
this
is
one
of
the
larger
graphics
42nd
street
there
on
your
left.
What
we're
looking
at,
enhancing
that
those
bicycle
lanes
behind
the
bus
stop
areas
in
this
particular
area
to
try
and
eliminate
those
conflict
points
between
the
buses
and
the
bicycles
and
the
moving
traffic
as
well.
D
These
have
some
bus
pull
out
areas
in
the
42nd
street
and
we
have
a
graphic
here
to
kind
of
enhance
this
area
a
little
bit
more
but
looking
down
at
39th
street
that
that
has
a
enhanced
pedestrian
crossing
as
well
down
in
this
vicinity.
D
So,
looking
at
the
next
slide,
we're
looking
at
the
what
the
city's
option
preferred
option
would
be
is
is
having
that
parallel
parking
remain
on
the
north
side.
The
area
on
the
south
side
would
would
kind
of
create
a
bus
pull
off
area
in
this
area,
and
then
you
could
see
some
of
the
bus,
stop,
shelters
and
and
stops
with
a
another
enhanced
crossing
with
a
median
in
the
area.
D
These
visions
below
that
area
on
the
bottom
of
the
sheet
are
what
would
be
possible
there
again.
These.
This
is
a
a
vision
of
what
this
area
could
be.
I
know
these
enhanced
medians
take
a
lot
of
maintenance
and
a
lot
of
work,
so
this
is
just
an
idea
of
what
this
area
could
look
like
as
well,
so
so.
A
So
dave
in
the
in
the
budget
is,
is
probably
like.
I
said
the
roadway
improvements
the
median
would
would
probably
be
maybe
similar
to
what's
down
by
windsor
elementary
as
a
concrete
median.
Unless
you
know
you
know
something,
changes
with
that
right,
correct.
D
So
so
so,
looking
further
to
the
east,
from
between
39th
and
35th,
we're
continuing
to
keep
that
conversion
of
the
five
lane
to
three
lane
with
the
two-way
center
left
turn
lane
with
the
on-street
buffered
bicycle
lanes,
we're
adding
some
parallel
parking
on
the
north
side
between
37th
street
and
35th
street.
Looking
at
enough
at
a
a
dark
stop
near
37th
street
as
well,
and
this
also
includes
installation
of
a
storm
sewer
for
what
we
call
the
western
ingersoll
sewer
separation
on
the
south
side
between
39th
and
35th.
D
We
did
not
include
this
as
part
of
our
our
western
ingersoll
sewer
separations
that
we
are
currently
building
now,
because
we
didn't
want
to
disrupt
university
two
different
times.
We
didn't
want
to
disrupt
it
once
for
the
sewer
installation,
then
come
back
and
then
all
of
a
sudden.
Oh
we're
gonna
address
this
some
improvements
along
the
corridor.
We
like
to
do
those
all
at
once
and
and
reduce
the
impacts
to
the
to
the
traveling
public
as
much
as
possible.
D
So,
on
the
next
slide,
I
think
we
have
some
graphics
of
the
corridor
as
well,
starting
there
at
39th
street
on
the
left,
the
we're
looking
and
hoping
for
a
enhanced
bus
stop
there
at
37th
street.
However
there
we
we
need
to
get
into
the
design
of
this
and
and
the
grades
and
how
that
works
with
the
adjacent
you
know
retaining
walls
and
the
other
properties.
D
That
grades
may
be
a
constraint
on
whether
we
can
perform
this
or
not
so,
but
looking
east
of
there.
You
can
see
some
parallel
parking
spots
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
with
also
an
enhanced
pedestrian
crossing
there
at
35th
street
as
well.
So
this
kind
of
takes
us
over
to
35th
street,
and
then
this
extends
beyond
from
35th
over
to
31st
street,
converting
that
five
lane
to
three
lane
continues
on
we're.
D
Looking
at
the
dark
stops
near
31st,
32nd
34th,
and
then
we
have
some
31st
street
intersection
improvements
to
basically
tie
that
previous
conversion
and
streetscape
improvements
together
with
this
project.
D
So,
looking
at
the
next
slide
with
that
graphic,
it
kind
of
shows
the
the
continuation
from
the
from
the
left
hand
of
the
screen
of
the
west
back
to
the
east
and
then
looking
at
some
of
the
continuing
on
the
off
street
bicycle
lane
crossing
that
30th
street
right
on
the
north
side
of
the
intersection
and
coming
back
and
to
a
on
street
facility.
So
those
will
be
trying
to
mold
those
two
projects
together
to
to
create
a
very
safe
and
continuous
project
through
the
corridor.
D
Is
we
will
be
designing
this
winter
2122
looking
at
if
we
need
any
right-of-way,
easements
or
acquisitions,
if
necessary
this
next
year,
hoping
to
start
construction
and
where
you'll
see
the
the
lane,
closures
and
start
of
construction
is
spring
of
23
so
a
year
from
now
and
then
hoping
to
have
everything
wrapped
up
and
substantially
complete
by
the
end
of
2023,
and
then
we
may
have
to
come
back
in
the
following
year:
spring
24
to
resurface
or
seed
or
solder,
or
do
some
touch-ups
here
and
there.
D
So
so
with
that.
That's
the
schedule
and
the
next
slide
kind
of
shows.
I
know
that
shive
henry
has
been
working
with
the
invest
dsm
and
our
planning
folks
to
to
really
focus
on
a
couple
of
these
nodes,
one
over
at
polk
boulevard
and
one
at
42nd
to
41st
street.
D
So
they've
created
a
a
what
they
call
a
micro
there
at
that
website,
at
the
top
to
to
kind
of
give
that
input
and-
and
you
know,
give
it
there's
some
questions
there
and
some
more
information
and
some
more
renderings
in
that
area,
so
the
to
provide
some
more
input
for
those
nodes
we
will,
if,
if
you
have,
if
you
don't
have
a
chance
to
to
talk
tonight
or
you're
uncomfortable,
you
can
always
contact
chris
cool
he's
the
project
manager
for
in
for
engineering
and
and
call
him
email
him.
D
He
has
his
phone
number
here,
283-4073
or
chris
cool
and
and
this
way,
if
even
if
after
the
meeting
you're
like
oh,
I
forgot
to
ask
that
one
question:
you
can
always
send
that
in
to
chris
and
if
we
could
get
those
before
the
end
of
january,
that
would
be
helpful
just
so.
We
can
incorporate
those
comments
and
incorporate
those
modifications
or
thoughts
into
the
design.
D
So
we
don't
get
too
far
down
the
road
of
starting
the
design
and
then
somebody
comes
back
with
a
good
idea
or
some
suggestions
and
we
we've
gone
down
the
road
of
of
of
design.
So,
like
steve
said,
this
zoom
meeting
is
being
recorded,
so
we
will
post
this
on
our
website
under
the
engineering
department
of
project
and
studies.
D
We
will
also
post
this
presentation,
so
you
can
go
back
and
look
at
it
a
little
bit
more
detail
zoom
in
and
see
any
of
the
details
you
may
have
missed
or
had
questions
on
as
well,
and
that
may
generate
some
questions
as
well.
So
with
that,
I
see
some
folks
with
their
hands.
A
That's
great,
thank
you
dave.
If
I
could
have
you
mute,
I
think
you'd
get
some
feedback
there.
Sorry
so
yeah
we've
got
a
few
people
with
their
hands
up
I'll
I'll.
Just
read
them
out.
You
know
todd
hotchkiss,
danielle
brooks
todd,
todd,
schnell
and
darren
schlapkol.
We
see
you
got
your
hands
off
scott
bentz
as
well.
So
we'll
start
here
and
caramel.
We'll
start
we'll
start.
Let's
start
with
todd
todd
hotchkiss!
Let
me
see
if
we
can
unmute
you
there.
Okay,
there
you
go.
E
I'm
getting
a
feedback,
but
anyway
I
noticed
that
the
street
widths
didn't
change
any.
It
went
from
50
feet
to
50
feet
mostly
between
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
when
I
walk
my
dog
from
about
polk
boulevard
to
42nd
street,
and
I
I
go
down
that
street
and
there's
three
feet
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
road,
and
I
know
that
we're
going
to
have
most
of
the
traffic
be
another
12
feet,
15
feet,
maybe
oh,
what
is
that
eight
feet
away
from
where
it
is
currently
which
is
a
bit
of
a
help?
E
But
I
wish
there
was
a
way
to,
and
I
have
it,
the
thought
occurs
to
me
that
you
have
sometimes
you
have
you
call
it
off
street
bicycling,
and
sometimes
you
have
on
street
bicycling
what?
E
What
is
the
rationale
for
having
on
street
bicycling
versus
off
street,
because
off
street
seems
like
it's
more
like
on
a
next
to
the
sidewalk
and
it's
more
of
a
quieter
kind
of
traffic,
that
three
feet
of
buffer
between
a
car
and
a
bike
is
kind
of
nebulous
and
not
very
there's
not
much
there,
whereas
if
that
was
grass
and
the
bike
was
up
on
the
same
level
say
as
the
sidewalk,
it
might
feel
a
little
bit
better.
A
Concern:
okay,
thank
you,
tom.
That's
a
great
question
so
to
to
be
honest:
if,
if,
if
the
budget
wasn't
an
issue,
if
we
had
a
a
a
blank
sheet
of
paper,
we
we
would
prefer
a
wider
parking
or
parkway
green
space
to
separate
the
the
sidewalk.
A
The
this
project
kind
of
is
kind
of
a
combination
of
where
the
road
needs
to
be
resurfaced.
So
we've
we
had
money
in
the
budget
to
to
mill
and
overlay
the
road,
and
so
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
to
improve
it
as
we
can
it.
The
road
is
not
is
not
being
fully
reconstructed
so
so
the
curbs
are,
for
the
most
part
other
than
some
select
areas.
A
The
curves
are
are
in
sidewalks
that
they're
staying
as
is
so
it's
so
the
majority
of
the
length
of
the
corridor
is
literally
milling
down
the
asphalt
and
then
putting
on
new
asphalt
surface,
and
then
the
pavement
markings
will
will
be
go
back
different.
So,
instead
of
a
five
lane,
it
would
go
back
as
what
you
see
here
and
then
we
are.
A
We
we
did
add
money
to
the
budget
to
to
do
these
pedestrian
crossings
to
work,
to
do
more
additional
work
at
the
nodes,
and
so
so
I
get
so
in
regards
to
your
question
on
the
parkway
and
the
green
space.
Ultimately
yeah,
we
we
would
we
we
would
prefer
it
to
be
wider,
but
it's
not.
It
is
not
not
part
of
the
but
the
budget.
So
it's
not
in
terms
of
you
know,
is
it
a
the
road
is,
does
not
does
not
really
warrant
full
reconstruction.
We
talk
about
full
reconstruction.
A
To
give
you
an
example,
flew
or
drive,
that's
a
full
reconstruction
project
to
be
on
that.
That
project
is
probably
shorter
than
this
length
than
this
one,
but
it's
in
terms
of
length,
but
that's
a
20
million
dollar
project.
So
to
give
you
a
rental,
we
we
don't
have
20
million
dollars
to
reconstruct
a
road
that
that,
quite
frankly,
pavement
condition
wise
doesn't
doesn't
need
it.
So
so
it's
it's
the
payment
rehabilitation.
A
That's
that's
that's
selected
there
and
I
don't
know:
if
do
we
have
jeff
wiggins
or
anybody
from
traffic
that
could
maybe
help
better
explain
that
todd
had
a
question
on
the
bike
lanes,
you
know
what,
when
do
we
go
on
street
versus
off
street?
I'm
not
sure.
C
Steve
I'm
here,
if
you
want
me
to
tackle
that
awesome.
C
C
That
was
extended
as
part
of
the
previous
project
up
to
the
end
of
the
wavelet
golf
course,
and
so
we
were
looking
as
we
were
getting
into
the
more
urban
area
to
transition
back
onto
the
on-street
system,
and
so
that's
exactly
what
you
see
here
is
to
tie
it
back
to
the
areas
to
the
east,
for
example
in
front
of
drake
university,
where
you
already
have
the
on
street
lanes
in
place.
C
So
it's
sort
of
the
difference
between
the
urban
and
suburban
context,
in
terms
of
why
keep
it
on
street
versus
on
off
street.
A
Okay,
so
yeah
in
this
case,
jeff
you're,
saying
that
you
know
because
it
goes
right
through
the
heart
of
of
our
neighborhoods,
we're
looking
at
you
know
a
speed
limit
of
30
miles
an
hour.
So
we
would
not,
when
you
say
the
suburban,
you
know,
of
course,
I
you
know,
I
think
of
you
know
kind
of
our.
You
know
out
in
the
suburbs,
where
you
see
sometimes
wider
higher
speed
streets
as
where
the
off
street
facilities
would
come
into
play.
Is
that
correct,
jen.
C
A
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
todd.
Those
are
great
questions.
Thank
you.
We
have
danielle
brooks
danielle,
let's
see
if
we
can
mute
you
here.
Well,
there
you
go
okay,.
F
Hi
there
so
I
currently
live
on
the
on
47th
street
on
the
block
just
north
of
university.
F
So
I
definitely
think
that
the
intersection
of
47th
and
university
does
need
some
restructuring,
and
I
do
like
some
of
the
proposed
plans.
F
One
of
my
concerns,
though,
with
the
write-in
write
out,
is
it
really
does
limit
accessibility
onto
my
street,
especially
when
you
are
going
eastbound,
there's
no
way
to
turn
left
onto
47th
anymore,
and
I
think
that
that
is
fine.
However,
for
a
lot
of
guests
or
residents
on
that
block,
you
know
right
now,
there's
only
northbound
parking
on
47th
street,
which
would
mean
that
the
only
way
to
park
is,
if
you're,
coming
westbound
on
university.
F
That
way
for
those
who
have
to
reroute,
instead
of
like,
instead
of
turning
left
from
university
on
to
47th
street,
you
might
have
to
go
around
to
like
carpenter
and
turn
right
to
get
to
your
house.
There's
no
way
to
now
park
on
that
side
of
the
street,
so
it'd
be
great.
If
we
could
maybe
change
47th
street
to
both
side
on
street
parking.
A
And
so
that
that
that
that's
an
excellent
comment,
thank
you
danielle.
The
things
we
will
have
to
go
look
at
when
to
to
in
response
to
that
is,
is
the
width
of
the
street,
and
then
we
have
with
the
width
requirements
are,
are
also
looked
at
from
an
emergency
response
standpoint.
So
if
the
street
is
is
too
narrow,
we
need
to
have
a
certain
width
between
parked
cars
on
both
sides
for
emergency
response.
So
that's
what
we
would
have
we'll
have
to
look
at
to
to
see
if
that's
a
possibility
yeah.
A
Okay,
todd
todd
snow,
I
think
todd
you
mentioned
in
the
chat.
You
have
a
comment.
The
question
about
this:
is
this
area
as
well:
let's
say
right:
todd
yeah,.
H
I
also
live
on
47th
street
near
college,
and
I
I
really
wish
that
you
wouldn't
limit
the
accessibility
to
47th
street.
You
know
I
use
that
very
frequently
turning
north
into
47th
street
from
university
and,
of
course,
then
also
coming
out
of
47th
street
going
on
to
university
east
and
it
looks
like
I
guess
my
question
is:
will
u-turns
be
permitted
in
this
area?.
H
A
A
I
think
the
thought
was
that
you
know
that
the
folks
would
go
north
to
carpenter
and
either
go
over
to
46th
or
48th
that
this
was
a
a
challenging
intersection
to
say
the
least
it
is.
It
is
confusing
when
you,
when
you're
kind
of
you
got
to
get
caught
in
that
unknown
zone
where
you're,
which,
where
do
I
stop
when
the
the
you
know,
the
traffic
signal
is,
is
red
at
polk
boulevard,
so
so
it
is.
A
A
H
Tell
you
that
I've
lived,
I
live,
lived
on
47th
street
for
17
years
now,
and
although
it
is
confusing,
I
agree
with
danielle,
that's
very
confusing
there,
but
I
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
accidents.
H
Traffic
accidents
there
and
I,
the
reason
I
make
comments
here-
is
that
I
feel
like
this
is
inviting
some
traffic
accidents
here,
because
I
like
I
can
see,
including
myself
when,
when
I,
when
I'm
coming
from
university,
wanting
to
turn
north
into
47th
street
I'll,
probably
want
to
go
around
that
median
and
then
up
into
47th
street
and
then
coming
south
on
47th
street
on
east
onto
university.
I'll
probably
want
to
go
around
that
median
and
I
feel,
like
my
neighbors,
will
do
the
same.
Okay.
B
A
Okay,
I
have
darren
darren
schlapkol.
Is
that
let
me
see
if
I
can
mute
you
here.
I
There
you
go
thanks
thanks,
steve,
yeah,
okay,
hey
appreciate
you
guys,
taking
the
time
you
and
staff
to
go
through
this
project,
I'm
with
wesley
life.
We've
recently
acquired
the
building
at
3206
university,
so
we're
on
the
far
east
eastern
side
of
the
project
and
our
we're
relocating
our
meals
on
wheels
mission
to
that
location
and
expanding
it,
as
well
as
adding
a
couple
other
services
to
the
building
that
we
recently
acquired
there.
I
It
we
are
looking
to
get
through
design
and
into
construction
later
this
year
and
wondering
about
impact
of
the
project
once
it
gets
started
on
just
commercial
traffic
from
a
construction
standpoint
for
our
project.
I
know
there'll
be
plenty
of
activity
going
on
with
your
portion
of
the
project
as
well
as
if
it
continues
beyond
our
completion
date.
I
What
type
of
restrictions
would
you
foresee?
I
know
hard
to
plan
and
timing,
but
on
this
end
of
the
project,
as
we
get
into
the
time
of
operations
where
we
will
have
produce
deliveries,
other
goods
delivered
by
cisco
or
whomever
the
provider
might
be
just
trying
to
understand
some
of
those
aspects
of
the
project.
I
I
think
the
project
looks
great
excited
for
it
to
happen.
You
know
for
what
we're
doing
there.
It's
going
to
be
great,
but
just
curious
about
some
of
those
logistical
items
for
us
and
how
we
might
have
to
you
know,
work
around
or
schedule
certain
activities
based
on
what
might
be
going
on
on
our
main
point
of
access
into
the
building.
I
A
Thank
you
darren.
I
don't
know
if
dave
campbell.
D
A
D
So
so
the
for
the
most
part,
the
majority
of
this
project
is
going
to
be
a
milling
and
resurfacing.
So
it's
going
to
be,
I
want,
I
don't
want
to
call
it
minimal
impacts,
but
it'll
be
a
short-lived
impact.
The
majority
of
the
the
impacts
to
this
project
will
be
associated
with
the
storm
sewer
installation
from
about
35th
street
over
to
39th
street,
and
also
at
your
nodes,
30th
street
42nd
and
then
over
near
polk
boulevard.
D
So
as
far
as
the
impacts
to
your
to
your
specific
property
should
be
fairly
limited
and
manageable,
because
you're
in
that
section
of
of
a
just,
a
million
resurface
section
so
that'll
just
be
something
that
you'd
want
to
coordinate
with
our
project
engineer
and
our
inspection
staff,
who
will
be
out
on
the
job
through
the
entire
project,
to
kind
of
keep
coordination
of
what
to
expect
and
when
to
expect
it.
So
that's
what
I
would
see
as
the
impacts
to
your
specific
property.
A
Yeah
and
chris,
if
you
can
make
note
of
chris
cool
and
dave,
you
can
make
note
of
darren's
na
information.
I
I
think
when
he,
when
he
registered,
he
would
have
provided
his
email
too.
We
can
maybe
connect
as
well
yeah.
I
That
that
would
be
great
yeah,
I
think
for
us.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
staying
out
of
your
way
and
doing
what
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
get
whatever
contractor
or
or
vendor
you
know
into
the
property.
So
there's
no
changes
in
types
of
vehicle
use,
weights
gross
weights,
those
types
of
things
that's
going
to
be
noted
here
or
or
restricted.
Will
there
from
what.
I
A
Go
ahead,
steve,
oh
yeah!
This
will
stay
a
truck
route,
yeah
yeah
great
thanks,
guys,
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
darren
and
just
dave
just
to
clarify
dave
camp.
I
think
what
I
was
hearing
you
know
is:
is
we
we
don't
anticipate
by
any
means?
A
full
closure
of
university
avenue
that
that
university
avenue,
even
during
construction,
wouldn't
remain
open
one
lane
in
each
direction
to
traffic?
A
But
what
you
probably
would
see
again
and
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
is
especially
around
these
nodes,
you
would
see
extensive
lane
closures,
so
there
might
be
only
you
know,
one
lane
in
each
direction,
while
they're
working,
say
on
the
south
side.
There'd
be
one
lane
in
each
direction.
Kind
of
similar
to
how
university
in
front
of
drake
was
done.
Is
that
that
sound
like
what
people
should
expect
dave
dave
right,
correct.
D
D
One
day
maybe-
and
I
just
don't-
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there,
so
people
wouldn't
be
surprised.
You
know
a
section
of
roadway,
you
know
maybe
a
one
day
on
a
weekend
closure
to
just
get
it
all
done.
D
Instead
of
making
people
go
through
the
construction
pavement,
you
know
that's
what
we
did
on
university
to
the
west
granted
there
was
less
access
points,
but
I
just
want
to
throw
it
out
there
that
it
might
happen
for
one
day,
but
for
the
majority
of
the
time
it's
going
to
be
open.
So.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
okay,
scott
bentz,
scott.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
get
you
I
made
it
here.
B
Great
okay,
hi
thanks
steve,
I
I
live
near
this
area
and
I
drive
to
some
of
the
businesses
on
this
stretch
of
university
as
well
as
I
bike
to
them
with
my
four-year-old
kids,
and
I
think
that
you
know
what
I'm
seeing
here
is
going
to
be
a
big
improvement
to
make
the
roads
safer
for
everybody,
whether
they
walk
or
bike
or
take
the
bus
or
drive,
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
my
support
to
it.
So
that's
all
I
had
thanks
great.
Thank
you
so
much
scott
appreciate.
A
It
okay
carol
maher.
Let
me
see
if
we
can
get
carol.
J
Awesome,
thank
you
and
thank
you
once
again
for
including
the
community
on
this
and
other
projects,
and
thanks
for
listening
to
me
as
some
on
this
call
know
that
I've
I've
been
vocal
about
the
intersection,
the
current
intersection
at
hulk
and
university,
especially
going
north
on
polk
arriving
at
university
on
a
on
a
bike
and
trying
to
turn
left
because
you
can
sit
at
that
light
and
wait
for
the
sign
to
turn
green
and
it
never
will
because
there's
not
a
hoop
there
to
recognize
a
bicyclist
in
that
left,
turn
lane.
J
So
the
remedy
for
that
is
you
park
your
bike.
There
you
can.
If
you
have
a
kickstand,
you
put
your
bike
there.
You
walk
over
to
the
crosswalk
on
the
west
side
and
hit
the
cross
button
and
then
go
back
and
wait
for
the
light
to
turn
green.
So
I'm
hoping
that
this
project
will
remedy
that,
because
currently,
even
if
there's
five
cars
behind
you
at
the
intersection,
the
lights
still
will
not
turn
green.
J
So
there's
something
in
the
pavement
right
there
that
it
must
only
pick
a
car
up
at
that
first
slot,
because
it
doesn't
recognize
cars.
Further
back
and
it
doesn't
recognize
bikes
at
all,
so
please
please
fix
that.
B
A
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
northbound
travelers
on
polk
boulevard,
and
so
obviously,
if
you
were
going
northbound
to
turn
left
going
westbound
if
you're
a
bicyclist,
the
light
doesn't
change
you
it's
stuck,
it
gets
stuck
at
red
and
it
doesn't
change
and
even
if
a
car
pulls
up
behind
you
as
a
bicyclist,
there
must
not
be
loops
that
are
are
triggering
anything
as
well
there.
So
that's
something
we
have
to.
J
J
That
would
be
really
great
and
it
appears
from
this
drawing
too
that
you
are
going
to
recognize
the
crosswalk
going
across
university
on
the
east
side
there
at
that
intersection,
because
today,
there's
not
a
button
to
hit
to
go
across
there
or
even
to
come
west,
so
hopefully
you'll
add
a
big
button
there
on
that
light,
that
would
be
really
great
and
if
you
could
put
countdowns
on
those
that
those
are
so
lovely
for
everyone.
J
So
thank
you.
You
mentioned
rush
hour
parking
currently.
Is
that
going
away,
or
is
that
saying
I
was
confused
on
that.
A
So
so
carol,
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
is
today
there.
There
is
I'll,
be
honest.
I
I
actually
find
it
confusing
a
little
bit
today,
but
you
know
there
is
parking
during
certain
time
frames
on
university
to
the
east
of
there.
So
so,
in
this
case
the
roadway
would
go
to
three
lanes
and
let
me
show
some
graphics
here,
so
obviously
the
parking
would
be
there
would
not
be
parking
on
the
university,
except
for
where
we're
adding
in
parking
spaces
so
see.
A
Here
we
are
we're
adding
some
spaces
here
between
35th
37th
as
well
as
west
of
48th
street.
So
so
there
would
not
be
parking
on
along.
You
know,
because
it
would
just
be
one
traveling
in
each
direction,
plus
this
my
directional
left
turn
lane.
So,
okay.
A
No,
they
would,
they
would
not
be,
they
would
be,
they
would
be
not
be
rush
hour
restricted
because
they
would
actually
be.
These
are
actually
bump
outs
if
you
will
or
actual
parking
insets,
so
they're
off
they're
off
the
roadway.
J
Okay
got
it.
Thank
you
and
then
I
have
a
question
regarding
the
pavement
color
you're
using
I
see
red
in
some
places
and
I'm
curious
as
to
how
you're
going
to
use
the
red,
especially
around
this
uptown
shopping
district,
that
you
have
up
there
as
well
as
like
connecting
to
the
wavelength
golf
course.
Yep
are
those
going
to
be?
Are
those
multimodal
lanes
or
are
those
bike
only
lanes
because
often
like,
for
instance,
on
igersol?
A
Yep
and
so
so
to
answer
your
question
this,
this
is
following
an
ingersoll
model,
so
the
red
is:
is
the
bike
lane
bringing
it
off
street
just
through
the
node,
so
the
red
using
the
different
color
is,
is
for
the
the
bike
lane
and
then
you
can
see
here,
there's
a
sidewalk
next
to
the
bike
lane
in
this
case,
so,
okay.
A
A
The
oh,
I
apologize,
the
bike
lane
actually
would
be
red
pavement,
and
so
it
would
be,
as
you
kind
of
see
here
in
this
graphic,
hopefully
maybe
in
the
lower
left
here,
see
how
there's
a
bike
lane
marking
and
then
it's
red
right,
yep.
So
that's
exact!
That's
what
it
would
would
look
like.
Yeah.
J
Okay
and
you'll
add
maybe
more
often
than
they
are
on
ingersoll
on
pavement
markings
as
far
as
where
you're
supposed
to
walk
and
where
you're
supposed
to
ride.
A
J
J
But,
as
mr
wiggins
mentioned,
when
you
have
curb
cuts
along
an
off
street
bike,
lane
there's
really
contention
and
I'm
concerned
the
one
that
is
existing
right
there
that
that's
going
to
be
used
a
lot
more
than
any
of
them
that
are
on
ingersoll
are
used
today,
and
it's
tough
going
along
ingersoll,
knowing
that
that
people
aren't
expecting
you
there
and
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
about
that.
J
Frankly,
because
cars
are
just
going
to
pull
all
the
way
out
to
the
road
right
and
they
don't
know
to
look
that
a
bike
may
be
coming
at
them
earlier
than
expected.
J
So
that's
you
know,
that's
just
a
concern
right
there,
because
there's
a
lot
going
on
and
then
how
you're
stitching
that
together
to
go
from
on
street
to
off
street
to
the
left
there
at
42nd
is
really
important
because
there's
a
lot
going
on
there
and
trucks
and
not
the
best
view
sheds
and
stuff.
So
please
be
cognizant
of.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
put
green
markings
across
the
intersection
or
some
way
so
that
the
bikes
and
the
cars
know
that
bikes
are
are
sort
of
changing
where
they're
going
through
that
intersection.
J
And
then
one
more
thing
as
far
as
stitching
it
together
on
the
other
end
from
36
31st
excuse
me
going
west
because,
currently
that
red
lane
goes
behind
a
bus,
stop
and
then
goes
right
into
like,
I
think
you
said,
you're
gonna,
maybe
rework
that,
but
goes
right
into
like
a
wide
sort
of
piece
of
concrete
where
pedestrians
are
and
such
it
kind
of
ends
in
an
odd
way,
so
being
cognizant
how
to
stitch.
Those
together,
I
think,
is
really
important
to
go
from
off
street
to
on
at
that
intersection.
J
Again,
it's
a
very
busy
lots
of
going
on
so
taking
care.
There
would
be
really
important
and
then
finally,
the
streetscaping
and
the
funky
lights
and
the
medians
and
stuff.
You
know
we
have
this
big
part
pot
of
arpa
funds.
Perhaps
if
you
put
together
a
budget
for
that
and
pitch
it
to
the
city
manager,
there
might
be
arpa
funds
available
for
that.
As
long
as
we're
doing
this,
let's
get
it
done
is
my
point
of
view.
So
I'm
sorry
I
thank
you
for
all
the
time
you've
given
me
rock
on.
A
Thank
you
so
much
yep
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
and
the
american
rescue
plan
act
funds
we
we
are
still
right
now
is
our
understanding
and
we
still
are
waiting
for
the
for
more
direction
on
those
on
those
requirements.
But
it's
it's
it's
there
there
there
might
need
to
be
comments
for
or
I'm
sorry
there
are
requirements
for
how
those
funds
could
be
spent.
A
So
I
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
answer
obviously
that
if
we
could
make
that
happen,
the
other
challenge
that
we
have
to
do
with
the
landscaping
is
typically
these
are
done
and
there
is
the
maintenance
component.
I
I
don't
have
teams
who
maintain
this
type
of
landscaping
so
typically,
where
you
see
it,
for
example,
on
ingersoll
avenue,
there
is
a
what's
called
a
a
schmidt,
a
self-serving
district
that
they
maintain
these
elements
just
as
the
same
in
the
cases
downtown.
A
So
those
are
the
challenges
we'd
face
with
with
how
to
implement
that.
But
but
thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments
carol.
I
I
just
wanna
the
next
one
I
got
just
is
ashley
b
she
wrote
a
comment:
the
chat
a
little
bit
ago.
I
have
a
clarifying
question
as
a
resident
living
on
41st
street.
A
Initially,
when
I
was
made
one
of
these
plans,
there
were
three
options
and
then
the
second
was
eliminated
due
to
hyvee
trucking
concerns.
Are
there
still
two
options,
or
was
one
determined
already
so
so
what
ashley
is
talking
about
is
when
there
was
the
surveys.
A
There
were
a
number
of
different
concepts
for
for
this
node
here
at
the
uptown
at
42nd
street,
which
you
see
here
on
the
screen
and
so
in
working
through
property
owners,
one
of
the
op.
The
options
were
eliminated
because
of
how
the
truck
the
the
the
the
trucks
and
delivery
trucks
and
everything
accessed
the
site.
I
think
there
was.
It
was
an
option
that
had
that
the
access
from
here
moved
over
to
the
middle
it
was.
A
It
was
not
feasible
to
make
it
move
there
and
then,
after
evaluating
the
options
further
and
kind
of
looking
at
how
traffic
flows,
this
option
was
recommended
based
on
one
trying
to
keep
this,
but
how
to
place
this
pedestrian
crossing
in
proximity
to
driveway
access
points.
You
know,
since
it's
right
next
to
and
then
how
to
lay
out
the
bus
stops
where
the
buses
stop.
That's
that's
kind
of
generally,
where
this
this
this,
this
alternative
came
to
be
so.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
ashley.
Hopefully
sorry
we
missed
your
comment
there.
You
had
to
wait
a
little
bit
and
next
we
could
comment.
We
have
terry
terry
taylor,
let's
see
terry,
let's
see
if
we
can
there,
you
go.
K
I
just
shut
that
so
I'm
talking
on
terry's
computer,
but
this
is
elizabeth
stamper
and
I
also
registered.
I
live
on
44th
street
and
I've
lived
here
for
a
long
time.
I
I
have
some
issues
similar
to
todd's
issues.
K
My
husband
and
I
are
walkers
and
we've
walked
a
lot
in
our
neighborhoods
for
over
20
years
and
have
recognized
that
there
are
some
issues
on
universities
that
are
really
unpleasant,
and
I
don't
think,
even
though
you
all
have
addressed
the
issue
with
the
road
being
in
need
of
repair,
I
don't
think
you've
addressed
the
issue
of
a
walkable
neighborhood.
For
us
at
least
biking
is
important.
I
recognize
that,
but
my
safety
is
just
as
important
as
a
person
on
a
bicycle.
K
In
my
estimation,
and
I
live
on
the
south
side,
no
correct
the
south
side
of
the
street,
and
so
when
I
walk
on
the
south
side
of
the
street,
whether
I'm
walking
to
the
hyvee
or
whether
I'm
walking
to
the
hardware
store.
My
safety
is
in
jeopardy
and
I
say
that
because
the
sidewalk
on
my
street
is
not
on
university
is
not
wide
enough
for
two
people
to
walk.
K
So
if
somebody
is
waiting
for
a
bus
or
I'm
walking
near
somebody
who's
waiting
for
a
bus,
one
of
us
has
to
crawl
up
into
someone's
yard
to
be
able
to
do
that.
That
won't
change.
If
you
put
in
a
bike
lane,
if
I
am
walking
the
dog,
if
I
am
walking
the
dog
to
the
hardware
store,
there
are
parts
that
are
roughly
two
and
a
half
feet
wide
from
the
street,
and
there
are
parts
that
are
roughly
three
and
a
half
feet
wide.
There
is
no
guidelines
for
that.
K
K
If
that
allows
for
people
to
be
able
to
walk
safely
and
to
be
able
to
bike
safely,
because
currently
you're
addressing
the
bike
issue,
but
you're,
not
a
just
the
pedestrian
walk
again,
I'm
the
one
who
also
sent
in
a
comment
in
regards
to
41st
and
university,
and
I
didn't
see
any
improvements
in
regards
to
the
crosswalks
there.
I
know
that
the
buildings
are
right
there
and
they
are
very
close,
but
there's
no
addressing
the
sidewalk
or
the
the
street
signage,
or
anything
like
that.
K
That
states
that
that's
a
a
crosswalk
and
I
think
those
need
to
be
addressed
just
as
important
as
putting
in
things
that
are
attractive
in
terms
of
plants.
Somebody
else
has
to
take
care
of
in
the
long
run
if
we're
going
to
spend
the
money.
Let's
look
at
all
the
people
who
are
involved
in
this.
Please
thank
you.
A
K
It's
just
a
passionate
issue
and
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
walkers.
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
catch
the
bus
in
and
around
this
area.
I
know
that
I've
caught
the
bus
to
downtown.
I
know
that
I've
crossed
the
cross,
the
bus
west
if
there
isn't
enough
room
on
the
sidewalk
for
you
to
stand
with
someone
else,
you
know
that's
not
safe
and
that's
not
fair,
no
matter
what
season
it
is,
so
you
can
change
the
roads
but
gosh.
A
A
So
so
appreciate
the
comments
elizabeth,
I
there
there's
no,
no,
no
arguing
any
of
that.
If
we,
if
we
had
a
blank
sheet
of
paper
and
the
budget
that
we
you
know,
our
our
city
standard
for
sidewalks,
when
we
put
new
sidewalks
in,
is
five
feet
at
a
minimum.
So
that's
that's
what
we
would
prefer
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
would
also
would
prefer
a
wider
parking.
But
but
again,
please
know
that
that
is
involving
more
intrusive.
A
If
you
want
to
call
it
reconstruction,
you
know-
and
again
I
you
know,
I
guess
using
fluid
drive
as
an
example
that
that,
in
that
case,
floor
drive,
you
can
see
that
you
know
everyone.
You
know
we
haven't.
We
got
the
t-shirt
from
raygon
making
fun
of
us
right
because
it
takes
so
long.
A
Well,
it's
taking
that
long,
because
it's
a
full
reconstruction
we're
actually
digging
completely
down
and
replacing
the
entire
full
pavement
structure
in
in,
and
you
know,
adding
the
five
foot
wide
sidewalks
all
the
way
through
and
and
the
reason
for
that
again
is
fluid
drive.
The
condition
of
its
pavement
warranted
full
full
depth
payment
reconstruction.
So
that
was
what
was
was
budgeted
in
this
case
it.
A
What
was
programmed
was
a
resurfacing
project,
and
so
the
budget
is
not
anywhere
and
dave's
looking
it
up,
but
it's
I
can
tell
you
it's
not
even
in
multiple
multiplier
near
that
that
amount
so
yeah,
it's
two
million,
so
so
again
to
do
what
what
we'd
be?
What
you're
talking
you
we'd
be
looking
at
something
the
magnitude
of
probably
10
times
that
amount
dave.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
just
to
give
you
a
rough
magnitude
in
it.
So
again,
it's
not
that
we
don't
want
that.
A
We
we
do
it's
it's
it's.
We
have
money
programmed
or
resurfacing
it.
So
how
can
we
improve
it
and
then?
Yes,
we
did
stretch
the
dollars
more
to
add
these.
These
crosswalks,
you
can
see
here
at
fort,
for
example,
at
45th
there
would
be
a
median
and
signage
with
a
crosswalk,
so
that
way,
that
residents
would
only
be
crossing
three
lanes
instead
of
two,
and
so
you
know
again,
we
do
feel
it's
an
improvement.
Is
it
what
we
would
want
on
a
blank
sheet
of
paper?
No,
it's
it's!
It's
not!
A
So,
there's
no
arguing
that
we
would
we
we
agree
with
you
that,
ideally
it
would
be.
We
would
have
five
foot
wide
sidewalks
the
whole
way
with
wider
parkways
and
not
so.
K
K
It
seems
inappropriate
when
the
safety
of
the
people
who
are
walking
the
area
can't
be.
You
know,
can't
be
addressed
because
you're
saying
the
funds
aren't
there.
So
you
know
I'm
asking
you
to
look
at
the
possibility.
I
I
don't
know
where
the
bike
path
leads
or
ends
after
you
get
beyond
pulp
boulevard,
whether
you're
turning
right
and
going
down
polk
or
whether
you're
expecting
it
to
catch
up.
You
know
by
uptown
shopping
center.
I
don't
I
don't
know
that.
K
Doesn't
it's
not
explained
at
all,
but
the
walking
in
that
area
is
key
to
keeping
the
neighborhood
lively
and
people.
I
mean
we
call
kingman
boulevard,
2
35
at
4
o'clock
in
the
afternoon,
because
everybody
is
out
walking.
I
would
like
to
see
people
consider
university
that
important,
if
you're,
going
to
take
it
down
to
three
lanes,
but
right
now
you
can't
walk
it
safely,
and
so
people
don't
go
on
it,
except
for
those
who
are
trying
to
be
in
their
neighborhood
are
those
who
are
attempting
to
catch
a
bus.
K
D
I
have
one
question
for
you
is
it
the
issue
of?
I
know
that,
based
on
the
earlier
comment,
it
was
not
feeling
safe
close
to
the
traffic
currently
as
it
is
today
and
with
the
bike
lane
being
there,
it's
kind
of
pushing
the
traffic
eight
feet
further
from
you,
so
is
the
is
the
issue
that
the
traffic
isn't
far
enough
from
you,
or
is
it
that
the
existing
sidewalks
are
four
feet
versus
five?
D
K
It
is
both
so,
and
it
is
the
case
of
currently
there
is
parking
on
university
between
40,
2nd
street
and
our
street,
because
there
are
several
units
there
and
there
are
several
businesses
there
that
park
on
the
south
side
of
the
street.
So
when
you
get
a
car
parked
there
in
the
afternoon-
and
you
get,
you
know
a
bicyclist
on
the
sidewalk
and
you
try
to
walk
just
to
go,
get
a
gallon
of
milk.
It's
either
your
local
convenience
store
or
at
the
grocery
store.
You
can't
do
it.
Gotcha.
K
Direction
one
last
thing:
if
you
go
the
other
direction
from
44th
street
down
to
boulevard,
you
go
from
a
three
foot
wide
to
maybe
a
foot
and
a
half
wide
to
a
three
foot
wide
back
and
forth.
There's
no
consistency,
and
I
know
that
that
some
of
that
belongs
to
the
street,
and
some
of
that
belongs
to
the
city,
and
some
of
it
belongs
to
the
neighborhood.
But
there's
no
consistency,
so
it
it
portrays
badly
for
our
city
because
it
doesn't
represent
us.
I
K
D
Yeah
and
and
yeah,
not
not
like
steve,
said
we're
not
disagreeing
with
what
the
existing
conditions
are
out
there.
We
understand.
K
I'm
just
saying
that
you
know
before
you
allocate
the
money
for
green
space
and-
and
you
know
pull-offs-
and
you
know
things
like
that-
I
I
appreciate
those-
and
I
know
that
the
kids
who
are
using
the
bus
or
the
people
who
are
using
the
bus,
appreciate
those.
But
I
also
look
at
you
know
I'm
looking
at
that
and
you
have
the
shelter
stop
in
one
spot
and
the
pull-up
in
another.
So
are
you
hoping
they're
gonna
walk
from
there
to
there.
A
Oh
so
so
that's
that's
a
good
question
I
mean
that's,
I
I'll.
Let
me
try
and
clarify
this
area
so
again
we're
transitioning
into
the
node,
so
the
red
would
be
the
bike
lane.
The
white
marking
here
would
be
a
six
foot,
a
new
six
foot
wide
sidewalk
in
this
node.
We
are
proposing
some
more
improvements
just
to
eliminate
the
access
and
then
dart
dart
has
requested
that
they
they
have
currently
the
bus
just
stops.
A
So
so
this
is
one
of
their
main
routes
and
the
bus
has
kind
of
a
holding
spot
where
they
stop
for
a
while,
and
so
they
they've
requested
this.
Since
the
road
is
going
down
to
three
lanes,
this
bus
pull-off
area
and
so
that
the
buses
would
just
sit
there
for
a
while,
but
then
when
they
when
they,
when
their
actual
the
buses
are
in
operation,
they
would
stop
right
here
in
front
of
the
shelter.
So
when
there
are
buses
at
the
bus
stops
just.
H
K
I
mean
I
I
I
appreciate
that,
but
you
know
I
I'm
sorry,
I
I
still
have
some
real
issues
with
this
and
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
hoping
to
spend
on
it.
I
understand
that
university
needs
to
be
resurfaced
and
we
would
like
to
contain
it
all,
but
I
I
think
you
need
to
reevaluate
some
of
this
stuff.
That's
my
personal
opinion.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak,
though.
L
This
is
india's
shoemaker.
Just
was
elected
for
the
ward
one
city
council
seat.
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
really
appreciate
your
comments
and
I've
been
writing
down
everything.
You're
saying
and
you
know
I
absolutely
appreciate
everything
that
you
said
and
the
concerns
that
you
hold.
I
want
to
guarantee
to
you,
first
of
all
that
we
are
not.
We
don't
have
money
allocated
for
the
green
space
right
now,
so
it's
not
like
there's
any
prioritizing
of
making
the
41st
or
42nd
node
pretty
and
then
disregarding
safety
down
the
street.
L
That
is
all
just
you
know,
artist,
rendering
type
of
thing,
but
there's
absolutely
no
priority
of
allocating
money
for
green
space
over
safety.
But
regardless
of
that
specific
concern,
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I
appreciate
everything
that
you
brought
up
and
the
issues
that
you
and
others
have
brought
to
our
attention
today.
A
Thank
you.
So
much
colin
becomes
your
major,
so
yep
and
consumer
shoemaker's
correct
yeah.
As
I
mentioned
there,
isn't
we
don't
have
funding
for
the
the
landscaping
and
the
aesthetic
type
features
at
this
time.
It's
currently
on
the
two
millions
for
the
roadway
improvements
in
the
in
the
the
the
roadway
improvements
that
you
see
so.
A
Okay,
let's
see
I
have
tim
urban
tim.
Let's
see
if
we
can
try.
Let
me
oh,
I
had
just
for
a
second
here
and
now
I'm
trying
to
find
it
here
there
we
go.
Let's
see
if
we
can
try
and
unmute
you
tim
just
oh
there
you
go
yep.
G
Yeah,
I
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
a
lot
of
issues
that
I
raised
in
a
correspondence
with
chris.
Chris
can
get
back
to
me
on
many
of
those
issues.
G
I
am
curious
about
one
thing,
which
is:
there's
been
no
mention
whatsoever
throughout
the
various
meetings
we've
had
with
consultants
on
overhead
electric,
while
the
city
has
a
very
new
zoning.
Ordinance
has
a
very
strict
requirement
that
everybody
that
develops
their
property
or
improves
it
has
to
go
underground
with
electric.
G
Obviously
it's
too
late.
You
can't
do
that
now.
It
would
be
ridiculous,
but
you
could
do
it
here,
because
there
is
a
ability
to
go
up.
40
first
run
behind
the
north
buildings
along
the
alley,
where
there's
overhead
power
lines
and
back
down
again
on
the
other
side
of
the
road,
so
that,
through
this
section
of
the
shopping
center,
you
don't
have
overhead
lines
and
and
the
big
transformers
and
all
the
other
apparatus
with
it
on
one
side
of
the
road
and
nothing
on
the
south
side.
G
G
I
have
a
couple
of
other
small
questions.
It
seems
to
me
from
what
you've
said
that
you're
trying
to
work
within
the
same
curb
to
curb
template
that
you
have
already,
because
you
can't
really
afford
to
completely
tear
out
sections
of
existing
pavement
and
then
repave,
because
that
you
move
into
a
whole
different
cost
situation.
G
I
assume
explains
why
you
went
from
a
10
10
10
10
10
cross
section
detail
to
at
an
11
foot,
12
foot
11
foot
dimension,
which
seems
a
little
contrary
to
intuition,
and
that
is
if
you're
trying
to
slow
traffic
down,
you
don't
create
a
wider
street
generally.
G
The
guideline
is
that
the
the
narrower
the
street,
the
slower
people
travel
because
they
are
more
cautious,
but
if
it's
because
you
have
to
work
within
the
same
50-foot
curb
to
curb
section,
then
it's
just
a
matter
of
where
you
put
the
stripes
and
I'm
assuming
that's
what
this
represents.
When
I
see
the
three-lane
concept,
a
striped
section
that
separates
the
cars
from
the
on-street
bike
lane
and
then,
of
course,
the
existing
curb
that's
correct.
A
Yep
so
yep
that's
right,
and
so
so
again
we
are
holding
the
curves.
As
you
stated,
the
reason
for
the
11
foot
lanes
is
is
more
due
to
this
being
a
the
emergency
response,
primary
route
truck
route
and
the
dart
route.
We
do
generally
propose
10
foot
lanes
most
everywhere
else
when
there's
not
these
conditions.
A
In
this
case,
when
we
talk
about
the
speeds,
the
the
speed
benefit
of
this
project
is
is
going
down
to
the
three
lanes,
and
so
you
have
one
lane
in
each
direction.
So,
generally
you
know
people
drive
at
a
reasonable
speed
and
so
most
people
driving
at
a
reasonable
speed.
The
lead
car
will
control
the
speed,
and
so
you
don't
have
like
you
have
on
a
five-lane
road
or
a
four-lane
road.
So
so
I
live
on
the
east
side.
I
live
on
east
hole
and
so
on.
A
I
take
hubble
avenue
every
day
and
so
hubble
avenue
a
four-lane
road.
I
can
tell
you:
there
are
maneuvers
that
I
see
people
do
that
would
make
nascar
drivers
jealous,
and
so,
when
you
get
those
four-lane
roads
there
isn't
the,
though
the
reasonable
it
was
pretty
bluntly.
The
reasonable
driver
controls
the
speed
most
likely.
A
So
that's
that's
actually
more
where
the
speed
the
the
speed
reduction
comes
into
play
here
with
a
three
a
road
diet
or
three
lane
reduction
is,
is
because
we're
reducing
the
amount
of
lanes,
but
we
agree
with
you
you're
absolutely
right
tim
that
that
generally
there
it
there
is
a
correlation
between-
and
you
could
find
this
published.
A
You
know
between
12
foot
lanes
down
to
11
foot
lanes
down
to
10
foot
lanes
as
well
for
speed
reduction
in
this
case
we're
keeping
the
11
foot
primarily
because
of
its
the
corridor
being
a
truck
route
and
primary
emergency
response.
So.
G
The
other
question:
is
you
have
a
crossing
in
front
of
dmu
on
grand
avenue,
which
is
a
a
pedestrian
activated
signal,
yeah
and
a
small,
safe
zone
platform
in
the
middle
of
the
road
that
people
can
get
on
and
get
off
and
you've
had
to
create
a
zigzag
around
it
with
the
cross
section.
But
with
this
50
feet
to
work
with,
you've
got
a
lot
of
room.
G
G
G
Lastly-
and
I
picked
this
up
on
my
communication
to
chris
I'd
like
to
see
that
landscape
median,
that
you
have
shown
in
part
of
the
uptown
cross
section
extended
as
far
as
you
can
go
west
before
you
need
the
deceleration
turn
section
on
the
paving
in
order
to
provide
keep
in
mind,
we're
unique
in
this
entire
project.
We
own
both
sides
of
the
road,
and
so
that
has
a
real
positive
for
you
by
the
way,
because
we
could
landscape
that
median
as
a
common
area.
G
Expense
for
the
shopping
center
doesn't
have
to
be
a
smidge.
They'd
have
to
go
through
all
the
rigor
role
that
you
have
of
creating
a
separate
tax
district,
but
we
already
landscape
public
right-of-way
around
our
shopping
center
anyway,
and
it's
paid
for
through
you
know,
benefit
assessments,
if
you
will,
through
our
common
area,
maintenance
with
our
tenants.
A
I
appreciate
that
just
for
for
note
in
terms
of
the
the
overhead
burial
lines,
so
so
tim
is
right
that
that
the
city
does
have
within
their
development
requirements
that,
when
properties,
redevelop
or
there's
new
developments
that
happen,
they
are
required
to
to
bury
the
overhead
lines
and
and
so
that
that
is
a
requirement
downtown,
there's
a
designated
overhead
burial
district,
and
so
that
is
done
through
agreements
with
mid-american
energy
based
on
charges
where,
where
those
are
buried
from
because
they're
in
the
district
fleur
drive
that
that
those
lines
weren't
buried,
one
it
was
literally
a
a
financial,
it's
a
there
is
bearing
the
red
lines
is
is
is
is
very
expensive.
A
It's
usually
when
I
do
these.
I've
done
these
projects
across
the
midwest
I
used
to
live
in
chicago.
Before
I
came
here,
they
were
generally
70
70
to
75
000
per
pole.
So
when
you
look
along
the
block
here,
you
count
up
the
polls.
That's
generally
how
much
it
would
cost
to
to
completely
bury
the
overhead
utilities
again
it
could
very
drastically.
A
It
depends
on
the
number
of
private
property
owners
and
how
their
services
are,
but
it
it
again
tim
frankly,
it's
a
a
money
thing
and
then
also
an
issue
of.
If,
if,
if
not
here,
why
not
everywhere
right.
G
G
We
may
have
to
get
into
an
expense
of
running
a
different
connection
from
the
overhead
lines
into
the
rear
sections
of
some
of
the
tenants
along
that
north
building,
but
we
we
could
deal
with
that.
It
just
seems
that,
if
we're
going
to
make
this
kind
of
investment
for
the
aesthetics
of
it,
particularly
that
we
do
it
all
the
way
we
don't
just
halfway,
do
it.
G
A
Okay,
next,
I
I
have
spencer
spencer
richardson
jones.
Let's
see
there,
you
go
yeah.
M
Great,
thank
you
so
much
for
for
having
this
meeting.
I'm
really
grateful
to
see
this
process
go
forward
and
hear
all
these
comments.
I
just
wanted
to
echo
a
couple
of
the
earlier
comments
I
think
elizabeth's
comment
about
walking
is:
is
a
really
good
one
and
I
it's
my
hope,
I
guess,
by
reducing
the
line,
one
of
the
when
I
go
walking
along
here
or
have
one
of
my
children
with
me.
It's
really
just
the
speed
of
the
cars
going
by
the
proximity
of
the
sidewalk,
that's
so
troubling
to
me.
M
So
I
do
hope
that
you
know
with
the
bike
lane
there
being
painted
reducing
the
number
of
lanes
that
that'll
make
the
big
the
big
difference,
which
is
people
just
go
more
slowly,
so
you
don't
have
a
truck.
You
know
three
feet
away
from
you,
while
you're
walking.
I
also
wanted
to
echo
back
to
carol's
earlier
comment
about
the
new
entrance
point
at
the
sort
of
at
the
uptown
shopping
thing.
It's
you're
on
the
slide
right
now
at
41st
street,
where
people
will
be
coming
in.
M
If
that's
the
main
entrance-
and
I
also
worry
that
that's
going
to
be
a
real
conflict
point
just
because
it
it
already
is
a
pretty
extreme
one-
people
are
kind
of
gunning
it
there
and
if
there's
any
place
to
put
a
a
stop
light
or
something
like
that
or
really
you
know
enhanced
crossing,
I
mean
that
would
be
my
number
one
vote
for
just
because
I
live
on
39th
street,
so
I
cross
along
there
a
lot.
M
I
just
I
see
that
41st
street
might
be
still
kind
of
dicey,
especially
with,
as
carl
was
mentioned
before,
like
bikes,
cars,
pedestrians
and
people
who
are
trying
to
get
into
the
hyvee
area
kind
of
maybe
getting
impatient,
and
that
will
be
something
where
I
think
a
lot
of
care
needs
to
be
taken
to
protect
everyone,
especially
because
I
you
know,
I
think,
when
there
was
that
last
fatality
around
here
was
right
around
there
my
lap.
M
My
main
question
is
about
the
sort
of
enhanced
crosswalks
and
I
missed
a
little
bit
of
what
tim
said
a
moment
ago
is
in
the
sort
of
40th
to
35th
stretch.
M
I
think
you
had
two
crosswalks
planned,
and
I
know
that
these
are
going
to
be
sort
of
you,
and
you
said
before
that
these
are
sort
of
going
to
be
like
unlighted.
It
will
just
be.
You
know,
space
for
a
pedestrian
to
cross,
wait
and
then
cross
again,
but
there
won't
be
any
additional
flashing
lights
or
or
anything
to
like
indicate
the
cars
that
the
pedestrian
will
be
going
through.
A
That
that's
correct,
so
spencer
know
is
this.
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
here,
this
little
photo
right
here.
Maybe
I
could
zoom
in
it's
in
powerpoint.
M
I
can
look
it
up
later.
I
guess
this
is
more.
I
mean
I'm
doing
this
on
my
phone,
so
it's
the
everything
is
itty
bitty,
but
just
one
of
the
hard
parts
about
the
stretch
between
31st
and
42nd
right
now
is
just
it's
really
wide
people
drive
really
really
fast
and
it's
very
dangerous
to
cross
there.
So
I
think
that
the
lane
diet
or
the
will,
help
with
that
and
ameliorate
that,
but
it's
still
going
to
be
it's
a
pretty
big
stretch
before
anyone
has
to
slow
down.
M
It's
still
going
to
be,
there's
no
stop
light
or
stop
sign
or
anything
between
31st
and
40
seconds
so
and
when
you're
right
in
the
middle
of
that
that's
when
the
cars
will
have
picked
up
speed
if
they're
gonna
pick
up
speed.
So
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
put
something
that
is
more,
I
don't
know
flashier
or
you
know,
brightly
lit
or
somehow
to
really
indicate
that
the
pedestrians
crossing.
I
would
recommend
that
that
would
be
a
good
spot
to
do
it.
The
same
sort
of
thing
between
42nd
and
polk
is
a
long
stretch.
M
People
are
going
downhill
in
one
direction
and
that's
I
when
I've
walked
along
there,
you
know
that's
where
you
really
see
the
speed
is
about
the
middle
of
it.
So
if
there's
going
to
be
a
enhanced
pedestrian
crossing
there,
I
know
we
can't
necessarily
do
it
everywhere,
but
those
would
be
places
that
I
would
really
recommend
it
if
it
is
possible.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
spencer,
yep,
and
so
that
this
photo
kind
of
shows
a
graphic
of
what
we're
we're
proposing.
Generally
examples:
there
was
one
put
on
easton
boulevard,
east
of
east
hubble.
I
know
it's
it's
on
the
east
side,
but
that
that
was
a
roadway
that
was
taken
from
a
wider
roadway
and
converted
to
a
three
lane,
and
then
it
had
these.
I
had
this
pedestrian
refuge,
island
and
crossing.
A
I
could
tell
you
it
was
that
project
was
successful
not
only
by
measurements,
but
also
by
the
fact
that,
to
be
honest,
I
got
calls
from
a
resident
who
was
angry
because
he
we
were
slowing
him
down,
so
I
I
don't
mean
to
sound,
come
off
as
rude,
but
that
that
was
my
goal.
So
so
I
was
even
though
he
was
very
angry
with
voice.
A
I
was
happy
with
that
result
of
a
call
to
be
honest,
so
so
I'm
just
to
get
trying
to
give
you
some
examples
of
what
what
it
would
look
like.
M
So
that's
that's
really
encouraging
to
hear,
and
you
know
I've
been
looking
forward
to
this
project
coming
together
for
a
long
time
when
it
happened
on
either
side
of
us.
I
was
really
you
know,
feeling
good
that
it
was
going
to
happen
someday,
but
I
really
can't
wait
for
it
to
happen.
This
looks
great.
A
N
Great,
thank
you
so
much
steve
ryan.
Arnold
typically,
I
talk
to
you
from
my
role
as
drake
university's
director
of
community
engagement,
but
today
I'm
I'm
a
resident
interested
in
this.
As
a
citizen
of
des
moines,
you
know
I
I
really
just
want
to
echo
some
of
tim
and
spencer's
comments.
I
specifically
around
the
crossings
at
38th
and
35th
street.
N
I
do
believe
that
the
pedestrian
refuge
island
is
an
improvement
clearly
from
the
current
condition
and
which
is
no
crossing,
especially
at
35th
street,
and
you
know
I'm
thinking
back.
It
was
probably
2014
2015
when
the
neighborhood
really
organized
advocated
with
the
city
to
have
a
hawk
signal
put
in
there
at
35th
street
so
that
we
could
connect
the
neighborhood.
N
You
know
I
I
understand
the
cost
around
the
hawk
signals
and
I
understand
that
rapid
flashing
beacons
aren't
the
end
all
to
be
all
they
don't
solve
everything
they
give
a
false
sense
of
security
to
pedestrians,
but
we
found
pretty
good
success
there
at.
I
guess
that's
26
and
27
streets
on
university
avenue
with
rapid
flashing
beacons
and
that
doesn't
include
the
pedestrian
refuge.
N
G
L
Please
I
know
it
was
at
the
very
beginning,
but
is
todd
hotchkiss
still
in
here?
I
wanted
to
know
if,
after
all
the
comments,
if
he
felt
like
his
concern,
was
you
know
addressed.
A
We
have
a.
We
have
a
registration
list,
so
I
know
john,
maybe
john
davis,
or
that
we
could
download
it
and
see
if
we
have
the
contact.
If
that
we,
if
you
need
that
contact
indira.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
pause
for
a
little
minute
to
see
if
anybody
else
has
any.
Let
me
I'm
waiting
just
for
a
little
bit
here.
A
Go
hold
up
this
screen
again,
if
you
think
of
anything
afterwards,
here's
chris
cool's
information,
I
know
tim
had
urban
had
said
he
had
sent
an
email
to
chris
and
so
that
that's
that's
excellent.
If
you
think
of
any
questions
as
well
after
this,
please
feel
free
to
to
to
send
chris
an
email
and
here's
his
email
here,
c-k-k-u-h-l.
A
B
A
All
right:
well,
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
questions
comments
I
wanna.
I
can't
thank
everyone
enough
for
all
your
time.
It's
it's
awesome
to
see.
70
plus
people
attend
a
public
meeting,
that's
outstanding.
That's
just
I
mean
that
that's
awesome
news,
and
so
I
appreciate
everyone's
time.
I
know
it's
been
it's
taken
your
evening
up,
but
this
is
an
important
project
for
the
city.
A
You
know
as
a
resident,
I'm
a
and
as
a
as
a
city
staff
member,
I'm
very
excited
about
this
project
in
making
safety
improvements,
and
so
so
I
can't
thank
you
all
enough
for
for
providing
input.
I
want
to
thank
our
council
members.
You
know
we
have
council,
member
indira,
shoemaker,
council,
member
josh,
mannelbaum
councilmember
carl
voss.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time.
They've.
A
You
know
they've
put
a
lot
of
time
into
this
as
as
well
to
say
the
least,
and
also
helping
us
program
and
get
money
to
do
improve
our
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
thank
you
and
and
again,
thank
you
to
the
this.
Our
from
my
fellow
city
staff
team
members
for
all
your
time
on
this
as
well.
So
seeing
no
comments,
questions
again,
if
you
have
anything
later,
please
reach
out.
This
is
a
project
that
I
know
it's
a
year
away.
A
We
generally
like
to
have
these
meetings
early
before
we
start
detailed
design,
because
that
way,
if
we
need
to
make
changes
and
and
whatnot
so
but
it
so
it
is
a
year
away,
even
though
it
is
a
2023
project.
Please
please,
if
you
have
any
comments,
try
and
get
them
to
us
this
month,
because
we
do
want
to
start
getting
into
the
design
features
here.
So
all
right!
A
Well,
everyone
thank
you.
So
much
again
for
for
your
time
and-
and
everyone
have
a
plea-
please
have
a
a
wonderful
evening
and
and
and
stay
warm
out
there,
it's
it's
it's
it's
cold!
So
thank
you!
So,
yeah
night,
everybody.