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B
Okay
good
evening,
everybody
welcome
to
the
Englewood
Count
City
Council
study
session
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
order.
Please
take
your
seats
first
agenda.
Item
of
the
night
is
keeping
to
a
beautiful
presentation.
Ke
be
chair.
Bruce
Warner
is
here
to
give
an
update
on
the
keep
England
beautiful
Commission
welcome.
Please
join
us
at
the
table
here.
B
E
G
C
E
Right
how's
this
okay,
thank
you
for
doing
so.
Yeah
KB,
its
its
mission
is,
is
essentially
we're
charged
with
being
responsible
for
enhancing
the
quality
of
life.
In
Englewood,
we
promote
community
participation
in
environmentally
responsible
behavior
through
participate
by
partnerships
among
citizens,
schools,
businesses,
governments
and
other
organizations.
We
communicate
with
the
city
to
help
identify
and
address
and
resolve
emerging
environmental
issues
and
concerns
Commission's
the
sounding
board
for
the
community
and
through
the
community
education
impacts,
current
and
future
environmental
uses
in
Englewood
and
community
surrounding
communities.
H
H
D
I
So
there's
a
kind
of
large
kidney
shaped
flower
bed
in
Cushing
Park
and
we
got
together
planted
some
flowers
in
there
in
the
beginning
of
summer,
and
then
we
take
care
of
one
of
the
gardens
in
the
Englewood
recreation
center
and
those.
We
actually
have
a
very
clever
commissioner,
who
decided
to
put
perennials
in
there
last
year.
So
we
didn't
have
to
replant
flowers
this
year,
but
we
weed
it
throughout
the
season
and
keep
it
looking.
Nice.
E
E
E
E
H
E
E
I
A
I
So
we
also
have
a
autumn
event
that
leaf
and
tire
wear
over
a
series
of
three
weekends.
The
keep
Englewood
beautiful
in
the
city
of
Englewood,
along
with
Littleton
Sheraton
and
Columbine
Valley,
have
an
area
where
people
can
come
in
and
drop
off
their
Leafs
and
that
they've
raked
up
and
I
believe
those
leaves
are
mulched
and
reused.
And
then
it's
also
an
opportunity
for
people
to
drop
off
tires.
E
I
That
we
wanted
to-
let
you
guys
know
about,
is
it's
new
for
us,
we're
doing
a
cleanup
event
we're
looking
at
working
with
the
Englewood
Police
Department.
They
have
a
date
where
they
do
kind
of
City
cleanup
and
they
identify
zones
that
they
want
to
clean
up
and
we're
hoping
to
partner
with
them
and
get
bring
volunteers
to
help
clean
up,
and
this
is
actually
based
on
an
study.
I
guess
you
could
call
it
something
that
we
put
together.
I
Keep
angle
beautiful
is
a
part
of
the
larger
Keep
America
Beautiful
and
to
be
in
good
standing
with
them.
We
have
to
every
year,
take
a
look
at
different
zones
in
our
city
and
actually
count
the
litter
and
identify
the
zones
that
have
collected
more
litter
and
we're
looking
at
potentially
doing
more
of
these
cleanup
events
and
expanding
them
and
really
kind
of
looking
at
those
more
littered
areas.
E
And
part
of
that,
having
onto
the
letter
index
part
of
it
if
we
can
coordinate
our
activities
with
able
wood,
Police
Department,
because
they've
got
functions
already
they're
advertised
and
we
might
be
able
to
add
both
manpower
and
some
other
supports,
I
think
it
speaks
to
something
I've
heard.
Counsel
mentioned
I
know.
Mr.
mayor
you've
mentioned
it
recognizing
that
there
are
certain
gateways.
E
How
do
we
leave
our
hand
and
say
the
first
people
that
people
who
come
to
the
city
of
Inglewood?
What
are
the
first
impressions?
It's
it's
my
belief
and
that
we've
talked
about
it
in
our
commission
that
I
think
our
city
parks
as
an
example
are
one
of
those
gateways.
Somebody
new
to
the
city
might
go
to
our
parks
before
they
go
to
Walmart
or
whatever
they
might
spend
a
day
with
the
family.
It's
it's
my
belief
that,
by
enhancing
the
the
physical
appearance
of
those
environments,
we
can.
E
E
Our
first
contribution
was
made
from
the
bottle
glass
last
bottle.
Liquor
store
on
Camden
about
Delaware
or
Cherokee
was
over
there.
They
gave
us
a
big
box
of
plastic
bags
and
response
to
a
letter
we
sent
and
in
a
trading
post
again
they
they
regularly
participated.
It
sounds
like
with
other
functions
with
this.
Idiom.
We're
reaching
out
will
have
resources.
We
need
for
that,
except
for.
E
H
H
E
E
Whose
Department
is
our
liaison
for
this
set
of
events
we'll
make
that
happen?
I'd
also
to
offer
that
that
I
had
a
quick
conversation
with
Tom
bond
with
with
Harold.
He
wanted
to
know
when
it
was
going
to
occur,
so
he
might
be
able
to
take
him
some
pictures
and
put
in
Harold
for
us
to
about
encouraging
other
participation
throughout
the
city.
G
The
new
liaison
to
this
group
so
I
know
I'm
kind
of
new
catching
up
to
all
this
Linda
I
think
you
were
on
before
Oh
as
a
member,
okay,
gotcha,
but
thank
you
I
appreciate
it
and
I
really
appreciate
your
initiative
as
far
as
finding
other
resources
within
our
community
that
you
can
use
I
think
that's
really
cool
and
that's
a
really
neat
way
to
get
our
local
businesses
and
other
entities
involved
in
the
great
things
that
we're
doing
so
I
think
you
know
a
great
job
for
that.
Thank
you.
G
So
much
and
I
wanted
to
say
also
I'm
I'm
impressed
with
the
collaboration
that
this
group
does
with
other.
You
know,
like
the
police
department,
the
fire
department,
so
I
think
we
should
just
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
work
with
the
other
groups.
If
there's
other
projects
that
we
know
that
might
be,
you
might
want
to
help
on
or
the
things
that
they're
working
on
that.
Maybe
we
could
kind
of
partner
up
and
I
had
a
question.
G
Is
there
anything
else
that
we
could
do
from
the
city
to
help
kind
of
support
you
more
or
maybe
get
the
word
out
about
your
events?
More
I
know
we
talked
about
the
Herald
in
the
city
of
cities
of
service
is
a
great
one
and
I
think
I
mentioned
it
briefly
at
a
meeting
or
something
but
I
think
if
we
can
get
whatever
you
need
volunteers,
for
if
we
can
get
all
those
events,
so
I'm
cities
of
service,
it
would
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
you
guys.
E
H
E
G
Sure
and
I
know
we
put
on
some
of
the
events
in
the
citizen
newsletter,
so
I
know
that's
something
we
do
and
I
believe
we
put
on
the
Facebook
page
and
we
have
our
own
KETV
Facebook
page
too
right
yeah,
just
wondering
if
there's,
if
you
guys
have
any
other
ideas
of
things
that
we
could
do
to
get
the
word
out
more
or
support
you
better
or
help
you
brainstorm
ways
to
expand
the
scope
of
the
group
or
whatever
I
think
the
possibilities
are
open
itself.
We'll.
B
Cohorts
there
on
your
board,
I
know
firsthand
for
my
time
on
ke
B
that
you
guys
are
one
of
the
hardest
working
groups
in
town.
So
thank
you
for
everything
you
guys
are
doing.
I
love
your
ideas
about
coordination
with
police
and
Gateway
improvements,
as
they
really
do
impact
our
perception
of
live
and
do
business.
I
love
the
idea
of
a
parks
cleanup.
You
know
right
now.
We
do
have
one
partnership
with
Englewood,
Unleashed
and
nonprofit
who
helps
us
with
cleanups
in
the
park
areas.
B
Honestly,
it
was
probably
more
dog
oriented
dog
waste
oriented
these
type
of
issues,
so
certainly
they
can
operate
in
and
any
health
I
think
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
I
love
the
idea
that
you
guys
are
partnering
some
of
our
local
businesses.
This
is
something
that
we've
been
kind
of
work
on
and
Bruce.
B
If
you
wouldn't
mind,
maybe
passing
along
some
of
your
contacts
at
some
of
these
organizations
to
the
city
manager
I've
greatly
appreciate
that,
so
that,
as
we
start
looking
for
other
opportunities
with
them,
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
a
list
or
network
to
go
off
of
the
other
resource
might
be
the
local
Englewood
chamber.
For
you
guys.
You
know
there
is
something
you're
looking
for
local
sponsorship
or
something
with
give
them
a
call.
I'm
sure
they'd
be
happy
to.
B
J
B
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
Paul
Weiser
I'm,
an
attorney
with
Klein,
Alvarado
and
vo.
We
represent
issuers
on
some
occasions
and
on
other
occasions
we
represented
banks
and
underwriters
in
these
types
of
transactions.
We've
done
about
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
leased
purchase
transactions,
since
our
firm
was
founded.
J
L
J
Thanks
for
taking
some
time
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
first
start
out
by
telling
you
I
had
a
chance
to
test
out
how
well
the
fire
department,
the
city,
police
and
the
EMTs
work
about
six
weeks
ago,
and
my
wife
and
I
and
my
daughter
were
hit
in
a
car
accident
over
at
about
Broadway
and
Bellevue.
Our
car
was
completely
totaled.
We
had
the
jaws
of
life
cut
us
out,
the
am
units
came,
got
there,
the
police
got
there.
J
Everybody
worked
well
together,
I
was
at
a
hospital
within
about
20
minutes
and
I
hung
out
there
for
about
three
days
and
because
everybody
worked
so
fast,
I'm
hanging
out
with
you
here
today,
so
I
want
you
to
know
it's
working
because
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
big
topics
was
how
well
these
groups
would
work
together.
So
I
thought
I'd
just
throw
that
in
there
and
and
let
you
know,
I
did
a
test
run.
J
J
Business
of
tonight,
my
understanding
from
being
it
at
a
number
of
meetings
and
also
I
started
this
way
back
when
you
were
talking
about
the
fire
department,
what
you
were
going
to
do
with
the
extra
money
and
I'd
already
known
since
I'm,
only
a
block
away
that
the
police
department
is
in
bad
health
since
that
time,
one
of
the
thoughts
that
I
can't
I
mean
you
came
up
with
a
two,
but
I
was
thinking
about.
How
could
we
fix
this
problem?
J
Well
since
that
time,
over
the
last
probably
eighteen
months,
I've
had
three
architects
through
your
police
facility,
I've
met
with
a
number
of
one
of
the
architects,
actually
did
Littleton's
and
we've
reviewed
how
the
process
works.
Who's
done.
What
and
I've
tried
to
come
up
with
a
solution
that
I
feel
is
best
for
the
city
of
Englewood
and
that's
what
I'm
going
to
present
here
tonight
for
your
listening
pleasure.
J
It's
my
understanding
that
Inglewood
needs
a
new
police
station
immediately
and
that
the
most
cost-effective
way
to
do
that
according
to
jll,
is
if
you
build
a
long
term
solution.
One
of
the
problems
that
prevents
the
long
term
solution
is
that
where's
the
cash
going
to
come
from,
although
it's
still
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
go
according
to
Jol,
there's
a
problem
with
where
you're
gonna
get
the
money
and
there's
been
a
couple
of
meetings
talking
about
a
geo
bond.
Getting
that
started
trying
to
get
it
done
yet
by
november.
J
So
with
that
I'm
gonna
start
seeing
how
we
did
with
our
slides
the
regional
slide
that
you're
going
to
see
up
there
tonight
is
a
box
shape
and
the
reason
it's
a
box
shape,
because
it's
the
most
cost-effective
product
that
you
can
build.
It
turns
out
to
be
something
that's
in
roxbury
Maryland,
but
at
least
gives
you
an
idea
that
a
box
can
look
more
than
just
a
box.
That's
that's
the
only
reason
for
showing
you
that
Omni
Development
Corporation
we've
been
in
Inglewood
since
89
I
had
a
construction
general
contracting
firm
as
well.
J
I
still
hold
my
general
contractor
class
a
license,
but
I'm
mostly
a
developer,
and
we
hire
that
all
done
by
the
people
that
have
special.
Somebody
in
my
three-minute
presentation
last
week
asked
me
something
about
experience.
Well,
what
you
got
to
find
out
is
that,
whatever
you
do,
you've
got
to
find
the
people
that
are
most
experienced
in
what
that
is,
and
so
we've
interviewed
three
architects
that
are
that
have
done
a
lot
of
police-station
work
and
then
we
would
follow
that
up.
J
I
J
Million
dollars
with
the
ground
up
construction
anywhere
to
a
thirty
three
high
story:
high-rise
in
downtown
Denver
to
other
stuff,
all
over
the
country
we're
currently
redeveloping.
There
are
one
hundred
eighty
thousand
square
foot
campus,
where
first
data
moved
out.
We
got
some
new
roofs.
Now
we're
gonna
put
in
a
new
asphalt
and
and
we're
actually
holding
out.
J
We've
had
some
opportunities
to
lease
it
out
to
some
call
centers
that
I
do
not
believe
is
right
for
this
community
I
know
it's
not
right
for
my
portfolio,
so
we're
holding
out
and
hopefully
to
find
another
first
data
like
a
tenant,
we're
fortunate.
We
can
do
that
and
then
the
other
thing
I
might
mention
I
pride
myself
on
being
creative.
It's
something
I
enjoy
I
love.
What
I
do
and
that's
what
I'm
hoping
to
do
here
tonight
to
show
you
that
we
have
a
solution.
J
J
What's
rumor
and
what's
not
true,
but
I've
heard
that
there's
been
discussions
about
doing
a
building
stuff
in
in
Miller
Park
and
then
converting
part
of
the
police
station
into
a
park?
This
would
be
so
much
cheaper
if
you
can
stay
on
your
existing
site,
it's
just
the
numbers
are
just
off
the
charts
because
you
can
reuse
a
lot
of
the
utilities
and
if
you
can
do
this
in
such
a
way
that
you
don't
interrupt
too
much
the
existing
police
activities,
then
I
believe
that's
your
best
solution.
J
I
know
in
jll
study
they're
talking
about
buying
land
somewhere
else,
you
would
have
to
go
through
community
reviews.
You'd
have
to
find
out
if
people
are
going
to,
let
you
build
a
police
station
there
yeah.
If
you
build
a
police
station
right
where
you
are
right
now,
that's
your
easiest
solution.
If,
again,
from
my
point
of
view,
the
Omni
municipal
lease
it's
similar
to
loan
I
think
you've
all
read
this
right.
You've
all
been
presented
with
this
earlier.
J
B
C
This
this
is
an
informational
piece.
You
know
previously,
the
council
had
looked
at
several
different
project
delivery
methods,
aside
from
obviously
the
city
doing
its
on
its
own
through
the
government
general
obligation
bond
and
and
utilizing
that
the
typical
procurement
practices
we
would
do.
It's
been
discussed,
look
at
private
public
partnership,
this
particular
proposal-
the
dentist
is
bringing
forth-
is
more
of
a
lease
option:
capital
lease
option
for
the
city
to
examine
and
I
think
from
an
educational
standpoint.
C
It
was
determined
that
this
might
be
fruitful
for
the
council
to
understand
that
there
are
different
project
delivery
methods
and
this,
this
being
one
of
them
as
well
as
helping
to
keep
capital
local,
rather
than
going.
You
know
with
somebody
who's
in
California
or
Texas,
or
something
to
come
in
and
do
something
similar.
So
mr.
Witte
has,
as
he's
none
ceated
this
evening,
been
looking
and
listening
for
a
long
time
and
how
he
can
assist
the
community.
So,
as
a
corporate
citizen
he's
here
to
make
his
pitch
tonight,.
B
J
J
F
J
J
H
J
When
I
heard
that
you
guys
were
talking
at
the
meetings-
and
you
were
already
heading
down
the
Geo
bond
direction,
I
said
we'll
give
me
a
chance
and
I
jumped
in
a
meeting
and
tried
to
do
this
presentation
in
three
minutes
about
two
weeks
ago,
which
did
not
go
well
and
I
apologize
for
that.
So
I
asked
the
manager.
If
you
could,
let
me
show
you
one.
F
J
Well,
I
will
tell
you
one
reason
that
you're
doing
it
is
because
I
believe
the
way
that
I
have
picked
out
here,
whether
you
use
me
or
someone
else
is
the
way
you
should
do
it
and
I
listen.
You
know
couple
of
meetings
where
you
were
told
things
that
I
did
not
necessarily
believe
was
the
correct
way
to
do
this.
So
since
this
is
what
I
do
for
a
living,
I
couldn't
sit
on
the
sidelines.
B
Again,
Rick
and
I
make
those
decisions
that
the
mayor
manager
meeting
we've
decided
to
hear
from
them
this
evening
again,
your
question
was
whether
or
not
you
should
be
reading
every
slide.
My
suggestion
is,
do
a
brief
overview
and
then
we
can
cut
to
you
some
more
questions
and
comments
from
Council
all.
J
Right
I'll
try
to
speed
it
up,
but
not
quite
as
fast
as
last
week,
yeah,
okay,
all
right!
So
the
good
thing
about
this
is
it
actually
it's
it's
like
it's
very
similar
to
a
loan
in
that
the
city
still
owns
its
property.
It's
very
it's
also
similar
to
a
loan
in
that
we
can
get
construction
draw
financing.
J
Now
this
one
is
very
important
because
if
you
go
out
and
get
a
general
obligation
bond,
the
way
that
I
understood
it
when
I
was
in
the
meetings
and
listened,
is
that
you
get
like
a
giant
20
million
dollars
or
25
millions
or
whatever
you
get,
and
if
you
don't
have
a
security
against
that.
You
couldn't
spend
that
money
in
in
one
timeframe
in
any
way,
because
if
you're
going
to
build
a
product,
if
you
build
a
twenty
five
million
dollar
police
station,
you
spend
five
hundred
thousand.
J
You
spend
a
million
dollars
and
you
work
your
way
up
and
in
overtime.
So
if
you
get
all
twenty
million
dollars
in
one
lump
sum,
that's
that's
not
a
prudent
way
to
to
a
protest.
So
that
was
the
purpose
of
that.
At
that
point,
it's
similar
to
a
lease
and
that
defining
dancing
is
subject
to
a
yearly
renewal,
and
that
keeps
us
okay
with
Tabor.
J
So
it's
a
yearly
allocation,
it's
probably
very
similar
than
probably
what
you
do
with
the
city.
Is
that
probably
not
how
you
guys
do
it?
Don't
you
have
a
certificates
of
purchase
with
the
city
that
you
have
to
allocate
every
year?
Okay.
This
would
be
very
similar
to
that.
If
you
were
looking
on
how
that
works,
it's
a
capital
lease
so
by
our
legal
guys
can
tell
you
here
that
it
works
is
that
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
one
I'm
the
appropriation
lease
structure.
I!
J
Don't
even
need
to
go
through
this
anymore
because
of
what
I
just
shared
with
you
in
that
it's
Tabor,
it
passes
the
Tabor
test
and
that's
why
I
brought
the
lawyers
with
me
today
in
case
there
was
any
questions
that
whether
it
does
or
it
doesn't
so
that's
a
if
someone
has
a
question
about
Tabor
and
whether
it
works
or
not.
I'd
love
to
hear
it.
Now,
since
you've
all
read
it
I.
B
J
I
thought
of
that,
especially
you,
a
mayor
because
I've
watched
you
through
the
years
and
you've
always
been
very
sensitive
to
what
your
voters
are.
You
know
not
doing
things
that
your
voters,
don't
you
know,
ask
you
to
do
and
and
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
also
will
say
that
they
also
voted
you
guys
in
an
office
for
the
simple
reason
that
you're
supposed
to
make
these
decisions.
I
mean
you
can't
you
got
to
run
it.
You
got
to
run
your
run
your
place
here.
J
Basically
it's
it's
a
whole
bunch
of
1-year
leases.
That's
how
you
get
past
Tabor
common
lease
components,
a
series
of
one-year
terms
you
get
a
renewal.
If
you
guys
decide
you
don't
like
the
police
station,
you
want
to
move
out,
you
don't
appropriate
the
money,
although
I
will
tell
you
that
the
Sheridan
may
disagree
with
you
from
walking
away
from
you
know
a
commitment
like.
H
K
J
Honest
with
you,
that's
why
I've
got
my
friend
here,
the
banker
who's
willing
to
use
your
good
name
of
Inglewood
and
believe
that
somebody
believes
enough
that
put
out
25
million
dollars
and
believe
you
guys
would
not
skip
on
it
and
that's
the
trick
trick
to
what
we're
doing
or
the
trick
or
the
secret
trick.
I.
Don't
like
the
word
trick.
So
don't
nobody
quote
me
on
that,
but
that's
that's
the
secret.
What's
that?
Okay,
that's
the
opportunity!
I
always
go
for
opportunity
when
I
can't
think
of
anything
else.
We
have
a
challenge.
J
J
We
won't
find
anything
I
think
even
your
mr.
Hart
said
that
right
now
is
the
time
to
do
financing,
because
it
will
probably
won't
get
much
lower.
Well,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
take
advantage
of
that
today.
Build
you
a
police
station
today
and
the
other
thing
we
all
get
to
the
next
step.
Let's
go
that's
a
simple
comparison.
You
guys
probably
all
saw
that
it's
very
simple
we
got
Taber
covered.
You
got
to
go
to
the
voters.
If
you
want
to
do
a
Geo
bond,
that's
that's
basic!
All!
That's
telling
you
all
right!
J
What
are
we
going
to
build
here?
Kids,
the
police
station,
on
the
north
side?
We've
done
a
study
where
we
believe
we
can
get
123
feet
across
without
disturbing
the
existing
police
building.
If
we
can
get
a
23
feet
across,
we
can
build
a
police
garage
underneath
the
police
station
and
I've
heard
from
the
police
chief
who
talks
about
security.
Now
he's
got
a
bunch
of
issues
in
that
camp
plus.
J
J
The
other
thing
that
the
good
thing
that
happens
with
us
being
there
if
I,
can
throw
a
couple
local
development
ideas
in
there
is
that
we
have
construction
staging
that
we
could
also
put
on
our
site
and
also
additional
parking
for
construction
during
a
time
period
to
help
mitigate
the
impact
during
construction.
So
that's
that's
about
all.
We
bring
to
the
table
other
than
I.
Think
I
got
a
good
idea
and
I
know
what
I'm
doing
that's
pretty
short.
That's
that's!
Who
I
am,
and
so
any
questions.
B
L
So
2.15,
so
the
way
that
we
look
at
financing
is
based
on
the
term
of
the
loan,
plus
a
risk
spread
times
your
tax
factor
because
we're
in
Colorado
we
get
to
take
advantage
of
federal
exemption
and
state
exemption,
and
we
have
attributed
a
risk
factor
to
Englewood.
Now
part
of
that
is
based
on
your
historical
payment,
history,
your
finances
etc.
But
part
of
that
is
also.
L
So
part
of
the
risk
is:
is
that
there's
construction
risk
involved
generally
with
this
type
of
financing?
So
what
we?
What
we've
done,
is
taken
those
factors
on
a
seven-year
term
and
said:
okay,
we
can
fix
this
rate
during
construction
so
that
you
don't
have
any
fluctuation
during
that
12
or
18
months,
because
we
know
dennis
is
gonna
get
the
project
bill.
We
know
you
guys
are
gonna
pay
it.
We
know
you're
good
for
it.
We
are
a
Colorado
company.
L
L
B
B
Mr.
woody,
you
brought
up
some
interesting
kind
of
like
time
value
of
money
issues
when
you
get
a
pot
of
money,
and
you
know
you're
not
able
to
spend
it
right
away.
That
you're
still,
of
course,
paying
interest
on
that,
and
have
you
done
any
calculations
to
get
an
idea
of
what
that
time
value
might
be
well.
J
Usually,
what
happens
when
you
build
a
construction
project?
You
know,
like
the
first
six
eight
months,
you
may
spend
$300,000
getting
the
architects
all
cranked
up
and
ready
to
go
Minna,
but
then
there's
usually
a
bell
curve
when
you
actually
start
the
construction
and
so
what
we
use.
A
figure
on
our
interest
rates
say
just
rule
of
thumb,
we'll
just
cut
it
in
half
and
say
if
I'm
doing
a
twenty
million
dollar
job
I'll
put
the
interest
rate
of
two
point:
one
five
on
ten
million
dollars
and
that's
how
that
will?
J
Actually
you
guys
are
all
understanding
the
bell
curve
right
all
in
the
game
on
that?
Okay,
so
that's
kind
of
an
idea
of
the
time
value
of
money.
Now,
if
you
took
that
same
amount
of
money
and
you
and
you
got
it
all
on
day,
one
you
take
that
same
rule
of
thumb,
two
point:
one
percent
on
five
percent
Interest
turns
into
four
point
three
percent
interest,
so
you're
gonna
for
the
first
two
years
of
your
loan,
you're,
really
paying
four
point:
three
percent
cuz
you've
got
the
whole
bag
of
money
and
you're
paying.
B
J
I,
take
a
half
of
I'm
gonna
use,
20
million,
because
my
head
work
fast
enough:
twenty
five
million,
so
you
take
half
a
twenty
million.
That's
ten
million
you
take
two
percent
of
that.
That
would
be
about
2.15
I'd
be
two
hundred
fifteen
thousand
for
one
year.
So
you
take
that
times.
Two
years
it's
around
a
half,
a
million
dollars
in
in
best
guess
and
I
have
that
in
my
slide,
I.
Hopefully
that
was
on
there
somewhere
I
think
it
was
on
there
somewhere.
J
J
So
it's
just
I'm
just
trying
to
get
the
facts
on
the
table,
and
so
what
happens
is
you
only
have
to
do
it
once
and
then,
once
you
get
the
building
built
now
you
can
do
anything
you
want.
You
can
go,
do
a
geo
bond,
you
can
do
a
co
P.
You
can
do
anything
you
want,
or
you
can
ride
for
seven
years
and
in
seven
years,
when
this
building
is
paid
off.
It's
my
understanding
that
this
building
gets
paid
off
in
seven
years
or
somewhere
near
that
is
that
accurate.
J
So
that's
how
I
felt
the
timing
worked
so
perfect.
So
if
you
can
lock
in
22.1%
financing
and
if
you
just
can't
decide
that
you
guys
want
to
get
a
geo
bond
and
you
can't
decide,
you
want
to
get
a
co
P,
we
can
wait
seven
and
a
half
years
and
we'll
just
refinance
with
the
same
bank
that
we
financed
here
and
I'm
gonna.
Have
this
gentleman
explain
the
next
part
to
you?
J
The
Libor
rates
would
have
to
go
up
three
times
and
probably
more
than
three
times
in
order
for
for
you
to
break
even
with
what
we're
presenting
here
to
you
tonight.
If
you
started
today
at
the
two
point,
one
five
percent.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
hear
about
that,
I'd
be
happy
to
pass
it
on
to
my
friend
here,
I.
B
B
L
I,
do
it
quickly
so
back
to
that
kind
of
the
formula
on
how
we
price
we
take
a
LIBOR
rate,
and
then
we
plus
a
risk
spread
times
that
tax
factor.
That's
how
we
get
to
that
2.15.
Well,
if
you're,
that
1300
payment
is
based
on
rates
going
up
to
a
330
rate.
Well,
that's
on
a
tax
exempt
basis.
So
what
that
means
is
that
the
LIBOR
rate
that
we
were
using
in
our
pricing
formula
would
essentially
have
to
triple
before
you
would
hit
that
rate.
So
you
would
be
able
to
keep
your
exact
payment.
L
You'll
amortize
a
little
quicker
in
those
first
seven
years
so
that
over
the
next
18
years
or
I
guess
23
years
on
a
30-year.
Am
you
could
have
that
rate
go
up
pretty
significantly
before
you'd
actually
see
an
increase
in
rate
and
and
really
what
I
believe
that's
a
factor
of
is
that
you
have
a
lot
of
banks
competing
for
municipal
credit
banks
by
municipal
credit
for
the
last
five
to
ten
years
and
no
investor.
L
J
J
J
B
B
L
L
C
Yeah
and
that's
obviously,
that
was
enough
to
dentists
to
suggest
for
us,
one
of
the
things
we're
gonna
have
to
do
is
look
very
very
closely
to
ascertain
what
amount
we
do
have
that
we
could
apply
to
a
mechanism
such
as
this.
Frankly,
it
could
be
done,
but
there
would
be
a
cost
to
the
city
of
what
else
isn't
going
to
be
done
in
the
interim,
because
we're
taking
this
particular
route,
and
so
that
is
a
that's.
C
A
policy
decision
for
this
particular
council
to
make,
as
you've
already
have
seen
from
some
some
preliminary
analysis
that
we've
done
on
our
budget
you've
seen
where
our
fund
balances
are
well.
If
we
pull
from
those
reserves
that
may
accelerate
when
we
will
have
our
curve
of
expenses
and
revenues
pass
each
other
and
not
in
a
good
way,
so
council
would
have
to
look
at
that
very
closely
and
carefully.
C
C
I
have
to
hand
it
to
him
appreciate
that
there
there
would
be
additional
funds
coming
available
at
the
retirement
of
the
certificates
of
participation
on
this
building,
but
yet
that's
well
beyond
the
2019
figure
that
you've
already
seen
from
our
Center
for
priority-based
budgeting
model
of
where
we
are
so
at
some
point
in
time.
While
I
appreciate
the
the
zeal
for
this
group
to
want
to
delay
taxation
delay
additional
revenue
streams,
you
have
to
face
the
piper
at
some
point:
pay
the
piper
at
some
point
in
time.
C
So
saying
that
you're
to
answer
your
question,
I'm
along
Lane,
which
I
just
did,
we
would
have
to
pull
from
full
firm
reserves
at
potentially
the
detriment
of
other
cap
projects.
However,
as
you've
enunciated
from
January,
when
this
council
first
took
up
council
goal-setting,
this
was
your
top
priority
project
it.
Additionally,
other
projects
have
have
come
along
as
well
such
as
the
Broadway
Improvement
Plan,
which
we're
going
to
study
again
here
in
August
that
we'd
like
to
fund.
So
there
are
some
other
things
we
have
to
take
into
to
account
as
well.
M
This
is
a
plan
for
a
way
of
going
at
this,
but
in
terms
of
people
listening,
it
doesn't
create
any
new
money
for
us
to
pay.
So
it's
a
it's
a
way
to
do
it.
So
I
would
really
appreciate
when
we
get
our
next
step
and
Mia.
Hopefully
this
is
gonna
happen
next
week
right,
we're
gonna
get
another
report.
I
would
love
to
see
this
next.
Another
option
have
apples
to
apples
so
we're
we're
able
to
say
what
is
the
cost
to
citizens?
What
is
it.
M
C
M
B
J
You
could
start
tomorrow
afternoon,
meaning
that
the
Geo
bond
does
not
take
that
option
off
the
table
in
any
way.
The
the
the
the
part,
the
premise
that
I
started
with
is
that
you
need
a
new
police
station
and
and
then
I
supported
that
premise
with
jll
study.
That
said
that
the
sooner
you
get
a
new
police
station,
the
cost
per
year
for
the
city
is
I,
think
was
1:7
or
2/7.
What
was
the
difference?
I
can't
remember
I
apologize
for
not
having
a
good
memory,
but
it
was.
It
was
a
number
of
dollars.
J
So
if
you
can
already
be
saving
and
again,
I
know
that's
hard
for
some
people
to
understand.
Unless
you
really
think
about
it
for
a
little
bit,
because
I
don't
mean
to
be
diminutive
in
any
way,
but
if
you
really
are
saving
1.4
or
2.4
and
I
can't
remember
so
a
million
dollars
a
lot
of
money.
I
wish
I
remember
that
number.
But
if
there
really
is
a
savings
of
that
much
by
going
forward
today
and
getting
that
done,
plus
you
have
a
police
station.
J
It
only
takes
one
time
to
have
some
public
person
get
involved
with
a
with
us,
some
kind
of
a
police
activity
over
there
from
a
safety
I,
don't
use
a
scare
tactic,
but
from
the
chief's
standpoint,
he's
managing
quite
a
situation
there,
given
the
lack
of
maintenance
or
lack
of
I,
don't
know
what
the
right
word
is
whatever
it
is.
You
have
over
there.
B
J
The
Geo
money
and
believe
mr.
heart
would
have
to
probably
address
this,
but
it's
my
understanding
from
listening
him
over
the
last
couple
weeks.
It
comes
in
a
big
lump
sum
and
if
that's
true,
then
we
fit
right
in
we're
the
construction
loan
to
his
big
lump
sum,
and
if
you
are
not
successful
with
your
situation
here
in
November
two
years
from
now,
you
go
out
again,
which
is
what
I
understood
it
takes
two
years
and
I
can't
remember
why
that
is
but
we're
not
whatever
it
takes.
You
guys
to
go
back
whatever
it
takes.
J
You
guys
to
go
back
out
again.
Meanwhile,
you've
got
a
functioning
police
station
that
all
you
have
to
do
is
allocate
a
maximum
of
1.3
million
dollars
per
year.
If
all
my
other
assumptions
are
correct,
I
can
build
on
your
existing
site,
which
I
think
I
can,
if
I
can
deliver
a
product
with
a
programming
which
I
think
I
can
and
I
won't
know.
All
of
those
assumptions
to
be
true
until
I
spend
somewhere
between
30
and
40
thousand
and
I
know
you
guys
are
spending
30
or
40
thousand
dollars
to
go
find
out.
J
B
F
I
guess
when
I'm
having
problems
with
is
that
is
the
assumption
we,
you
said
you
started
with
the
assumption
that
we're
gonna
build
a
police
station,
that
we
need
a
police
station
and
what
I'm
concerned
about.
Is
that
we're
talking
about
all
of
the
options
on
how
to
fund
that
police
station
that
this
council
is
not
agreed
to
that
we
need.
We
haven't,
looked
at
the
other
options,
any
other
options
on
how
to
take
care
of
this,
whether
it
would
be
to
use
the
hundred
and
thirty
eight
thousand
square
feet.
F
But
let's
say
you
go
with
that
assumption
because
for
right
now,
although
I
don't
think
that
that's
quite
where
we're
at,
if
I'm
hearing
you
right,
what
you're
actually
suggesting
is
that
we
would
go
ahead
and
build
a
building,
and
if
it
fails
that
the
citizens
say
no
I,
don't
want
this
money
that
we
would
go
ahead.
They
don't
want
to
give
us
the
money.
We
don't
sell
them
on
it.
We
don't
win
them
over.
We
just
go
right
ahead
and
run
them
over
cuz.
F
J
Once
you
weigh
the
dollars
that
were
presented
by
Jol
and
David
Hart,
and
once
you
see
all
of
that
you're
making
the
best
decision
as
a
city
council
person
to
make
sure
you
get
a
police
station.
And
yet,
as
a
good
city
council
person
taking
care
of
your
people's
taxes,
that
you
make
sure
that
you
still
give
them
the
option
to
do
the
Geo
bond
later
or
a
seal.
P
later.
But
you're
going
to
have
a
new
police
station
to
protect
your
city.
And
if
a
new
police
station
isn't
what
you
need.
Then.
H
F
Think
I
have
heard
you
right
as
to
my
question
was
that
you
are
suggesting
that
we
would
go
ahead,
be
able
to
build
the
building
and
then,
if
it
fails
this
time,
we'll
just
go
in
two
years
for
another
geo
bond
after
the
building's
built,
because
in
the
mean
time
you
said,
we
would
have
a
functioning
safe,
beautiful
new
police
building
and
then
we'd
go
out
and
ask
him
again
for
the
money.
If
it
didn't
pass
this
time.
F
I
began
it
by
saying
that
you
probably
have
every
right
to
make
the
assumption,
since
this
has
gone
very
quickly
on
that
that
that
it's
a
possibility,
a
police
station
could
get
built
and
that's
what
you'd
like
to
participate
in
and
what
I
said
was
trying
to
explain
was
that
my
bosses,
when
I
go
out
there
and
talk
to
them
our
concern
that
we're
not
looking
at
all
of
the
other
options.
It's
just
going
fast
and
then
the
other
concern,
of
course,
would
be
building
a
building
and
then
asking
for
the
taxpayers
buy
into
that.
J
B
You
know
I,
guess
now:
I
guess
I'd
like
to
ask
Eric
how
you
see
a
sort
of
proceeding
on
this
I
liked
Linda
suggestion
about
kind
of
getting
some
of
the
terms
together
and
that
way
council
can
have
another
study
session
and
I
mean
perhaps
without
some
guests
to
you
know,
talk
about
these
ideas
figure
out.
You
know
what
questions
we
had
and
kind
of
go
from
there.
I
guess,
I
personally,
you
know
see
value
in
working
with
somebody
like
Dennis
who
could
help
us
with
this
type
of
stuff.
B
B
H
C
Yeah
there
there
have
been
quite
a
few
studies
and
obviously
because
of
timeframes
and
changes
in
council,
we
haven't
been
able
to
present
all
the
information
to
you
about.
What's
been
examined
already
as
far
as
next
steps
to
go
with
this
particular
project,
I
believe
that
next
next
Monday
night,
obviously
you're
going
to
be
reviewing
polling
results
and
then
determining
whether
not
of
the
feasibility
of
going
for
for
the
geo.
What
is
difficult
with
what
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
project
delivery
methods.
C
C
Dennis's
way
of
what
he's
proposing
tonight,
I
believe
I'm
hearing
him
say
as
more
of
a
design-build
which,
which
private
sector
can
certainly
move
much
faster
than
public,
and
we
would
be
facing
some
some
headwinds
if
we
had
to
go
and
do
a
normal
project
delivery
where
we
would
do
an
AI
RFP
for
an
architect,
and
that
would
be
a
set
period
of
time,
then
the
architect
gets
going,
does
their
design.
Then
they
do
another
RFP
to
get
a
contractor
and
there's
there's
there's
money
you're
losing
money
in
time.
I!
B
C
Exactly
and
that's
something
that
we
certainly
can
do.
Of
course,
all
that's
gonna
be
predicated
upon
the
council's
desire
willingness
to
find
the
appropriate
financial
mechanism,
because
that's
a
big
decision
to
be
made-
and
so
I
think
has
been
discussed
tonight
and
questions
have
been
asked.
What
makes
the
most
sense?
How
do
we
gonna?
C
I
thought
it
was
I,
went
back
and
actually
listened
to
tape
and
believed
it
was,
but
we
will,
you
know,
have
to
figure
out
with
with
your
concurrence
and
your
recommendation
Council
and
how
to
move
forward
with
with
this.
So,
first
and
foremost
do
you
want
to
do
Gio
you'll
hear
about
that
next
week
and
then
from
there
we
can
begin
to
look
at
again.
Setting
on
an
RFP
for
design-build
team
and
Dennis
seems,
like
mr.
Witte
seems,
like
he'd,
be
Athlete
prepared
to
present
something
on
that
as
well.
The.
J
One
thing
I
might
add,
and
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
this,
but
I
do
have
the
problem,
all
three
architects
that
I
am
talking
to
said.
Dennis,
don't
waste
your
time
with
a
city
it'll
be
so
drawn-out.
You'll
have
to
spend
so
much
money
just
to
get
the
job.
The
only
people
that
can
spend
that
kind
of
money
are
the
RN
ELLs
of
the
world,
which
are
the
big-time
companies
and,
and
so
you
will
also
get
a
big
time
budget.
Once
you
get
those
three
big-time
architects
to
decide.
J
You
know
that
they're
gonna
do
an
RFP
and
then
the
other
thing
to
remember,
with
a
large
and
again
I've
been
around
a
while
I've
worked
for
big
companies
and
small
companies
is
just
remember
when
you
get
to
an
RN,
L
or
one
of
those
larger
companies.
You
have
somebody
who's
working
for
somebody,
who's
working
for
somebody,
who's
a
vice
president,
who's
working
for
somebody,
who's
worked
for
somebody
and
by
the
time
you're
done
the
guy
who's
actually
doing.
J
The
drawings
got
out
of
college
last
year,
where
most
of
my
architects,
that
I'm
using
are
local
architects
that
have
the
main
guys
with
their
with
our
spoon
in
the
stew.
So
that's
the
only
thing
I
can
tell
you,
as
you
guys
march,
on
that
these
medium-sized
architectural
firms
don't
want
to
have
anything
to
do
with
an
RFP
of
something
like
this
and
again,
whether
you
use
me
or
somebody
else,
I'm
trying
to
be
a
just
an
educational
faucet
tonight,
for
you
all
I,
think.
B
J
The
the
reason,
the
CM
maximum
price
project
works
in
the
private
sector
so
well
today,
is
because
you
don't
hire
an
RN
L
that
does
a
complete
design,
gives
you
a
product,
you
bid
it
out,
and
you
find
out
that
you're
27
or
50
percent
over
budget.
What
happens
with
this
process
is
the
architect
doesn't
have
to
work
as
hard
to
make
sure
he's
detailed
because
he's
not
going
to
get
sued,
because
this
is
I'm.
Sorry
about
that,
but
it's
a
very
there's
a
lot
of
litigation
that
goes
on
and
everybody
has
to
protect
themselves.
J
J
So
the
only
thing
that
you
do
is
you
find
people
that
are
capable
make
sure
they
bid
a
reasonable
fee
and
long
as
you
know,
the
reasonable
fee,
it's
an
open
book
process
and
then
you,
the
city,
can
hire
your
own
Wizards
like
GL,
jll
or
there's
any
number
of
consultants
that
can
help
you
that
understand
this
process
to
make
sure
that
they
protect
the
city.
So
I
really
want
to
wreck
it
again.
J
M
J
N
K
D
B
C
C
C
C
That
that
is
what
Bruce
was
referring
to
about,
but
the
problem
is
it's
the
same
day:
September
10th
is
the
National
Day
of
Service
the
same
day
as
their
one
of
their
cleanups,
but
there's
quite
a
bit
of
interest
from
the
community
already
in
this
project,
and
people
are
signing
up
already
I
think
Tony
arnoldii
sent
out
a
email
today
and
put
it
on
next
door
too.
It's
called
the
website
just
sign
up
yeah,
it's
not
up
to
be
a
volunteer.
C
B
B
O
Were
you
did
leave
off
at
goal
shop
three?
But
you
may
remember
that
there
was
some
discussion
at
the
last
meeting
about
the
possibility
of
inserting
some
references
to
historic
preservation
in
some
of
the
goals
in
a
council
in
your
packet,
page,
24
or
48
toward
the
bottom.
We've
listed
a
couple
potential
historic
preservation
options
for
your
consideration
where
they
would
fit
in
both
to
live
in
the
shop
locations
of
the
goals.
O
B
H
F
Since
they
did
spend
their
time
and
we're
spoken
to
by
the
consultant
originally
and
then
the
second
time
I,
apparently
staff
talked
to
him
and
without
them
knowing
had
that
information
taken
out
since
they
were
good
enough
to
be
the
source
for
that
information
from
the
beginning.
And
then
the
controversy
has
been
because
they
were
the
only
ones
who
knew
that
it
had
been
taken
out
because
we
certainly
didn't
it
was
never
presented
to
us.
F
So
it
would
be
nice
to
kind
of
met
in
that
I
mean
we
thought
enough
of
them,
or
at
least
the
consultant
thought
enough
of
them
and
their
role
in
the
city
to
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
they
were
originally
interviewed
and
talked
to
and
had
meetings
with.
So
I
think
it
would
be
respectful
to
go
ahead
and
have
this
discussion
with
them.
First
to
see
what
so
that
we're
not
reinventing
the
wheel.
F
What
was
discussed
with
them
go
over
some
of
the
things
that
were
important
to
them
and
then
kind
of
go
from
there
and
you're
right
they're,
not
the
only
people
in
the
community
that
have
a
say
in
that,
but
they
were
the
ones
that
the
consultants
went
through.
So
I
would
like
to
bring
them
back
in
and
be
respectful
of
their
work
in
the
community
in
their
position.
F
A
Think
the
important
part
of
the
whole
situation
when
it
comes
to
historical
preservation
is
that
we
do
recognize
it
in
this
particular.
What
staff
is
brought
to
us
under
recognize
that,
and
once
we
establish
that,
then
we
go
ahead
and
appoint
the
board
members
for
that,
and
we
start
talking
about
what
form
and
shape
it
should
take.
It's
too
too
much
of
a
conversation.
I
mean
it's
gonna,
be
another
comp
plan
thing
so
I
think
it's
just
recognition.
Establishment
of
the
board
and
move
forward.
P
F
F
P
F
The
other
degree
with
councilmember
Russell
on
this,
because
the
interpretation
of
what's
healthy
changes
all
the
time
I
mean
we're
going
through
the
resurgence.
Now
where
the
food
pyramid
is
actually
killing
us
off,
I
mean
it's
too
heavy
in
grains.
It's
too
the
government
trying
to
tell
people
how
they
should
to
try
to
control
that
it's
been
foo
barred
up
for
a
while
I
mean
now.
It
turns
out.
F
Butters
actually
got
this
one
I
mean
as
long
as
it's
good
butter
and
not
her
dry
generated
oil
or
whatever
is
one
of
the
best
foods
you
can
eat.
It
has
some
values
and
properties
in
it
that
no
other
food
actually
has
so
the
whole
the
whole
up
and
down
of
it,
is
probably
better
served
in
the
market
rather
than
us.
F
Trying
to
identify
and
I
think
the
problem
comes
in
is
not
whether
it's
a
food
desert
or
not,
but
that
we're
pushing
what
we
believe
our
interpretation
of
what
healthy
is
and
that's
where
the
problem
comes
in,
because
if
we
put
healthy
in
there,
we've
got
to
make
a
determination
of
what
healthy
is
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
and
I
don't
think
that's
an
appropriate
thing
for
us
to
be
doing
with
the
land
use
document.
F
B
P
My
parents
got
divorced
when
my
youngest
brother
was
five
and
he
was
raised
by
a
single
mother
and
she
fed
him
Grainne
to
fill
him
up,
and
so
he
was
very
heavy.
Now
he's
very
healthy.
He
only
eats
healthy
food
now,
but
I
do
believe
that
it
is
a
socio-economic
issue
and
if
we
don't
make
all
types
of
restaurants
in
food
sources
available,
we
are
harming
certain
people
in
the
city
as
well.
B
F
We
can't
ensure
the
affordability
or
even
that
a
business
that
sells
healthy
stuff
can
survive
in
the
community.
I
mean
we
can
put
it
in
there.
We
can
insist
that
we
give
preferences
to
businesses
that
are
healthy
and
then,
if
they
don't
survive,
I
mean
we
can't
force
people
to
shop
there.
Thank
God
we're
not
to
that
level.
H
C
F
M
M
B
B
M
F
Think
there's
healthy
food.
That's
fast
food
there's,
obviously
options
coming
out,
but
if
we're
going
to
tell
them
that
we
don't
want
to
be
part
of
that
thing.
That
is
a
viable
business
for,
however
long
they
last
for,
however
long
that
fad
last
that
they
want
to
be
in
business
in
our
community
that
they
can't
come
here
and
I
think
that
we're
sending
them
I
think
we're
sending
a
wrong
message
having
stuff
like
that
in
there.
Thank
you,
Steve.
A
What
I
actually
read
out
of
that
would
be
trying
to
create
something
more
like
a
Pearl
Street
or
you
know,
shops
within
certain
neighborhood
areas.
I,
don't
necessarily
see
what
the
concern
is
over.
It
question
be:
do
we
want
to
encourage
shops
within
neighborhood
areas?
You
know
like
over
at
Clarkson
and
and
Floyd.
You
know
we
got
a
convenience
store
over
there,
which
could
have
been
a
small
grocer.
It
could
be
whatever
I
mean.
A
B
You
know
I
I'm,
generally
supportive
again
of
the
language
I.
You
know,
I'm
not
reading
anything
here
that
I
think
with
me
business,
tough,
for
what
some
subjectively
might
think
of
as
unhealthy.
You
know
I
think
it's
just
being
mindful
I
think
of
a
long-term
nationwide.
You
know
hopefully,
trend
towards
healthier
eating
and
healthier
lifestyles.
I
think
this
is
just
something
that
is
attractive
to
our
residents
and
our
businesses
generally
Amy.
B
M
B
I'm,
sorry,
it
seems,
like
members
again
are
expressing
frustration
with
our
informal
decision-making
piece
here
and
again.
I
think
you
guys
need
to
understand
that
you
know
we're
not
discussion.
I
feel
like
they're
frustrated
by
me.
Continuing
to
ask
questions
of
the
council
members
and
again
I'm
gonna
continue
to
ask
those
questions
until
I
feel
like
they're
there.
We
have
clarity
to
move
forward
to
the
next
issue
and
so
I.
F
Guess
my
objection
is:
is
that
once
when
we
make
a
decision
like
that,
we
have
the
discussion
and
then
you
just
go
back
and
go
yeah
we're
going
to
put
it
back
in,
but
it's
generally
on
things
that
you're
wanting
to
have
done.
So
if
you
would
make
sure
that
you
are
even-handed
in
your
continuing
the
discussion
and
changing
it
even
when
it's
something
that
you
would
have
agreed
on,
I'd
appreciate
it.
But
it's
frustrating
because.
F
Come
to
a
decision,
it
constantly
gets
changed
back,
so
we
all
sit
here
and
agree
and
say:
okay,
take
healthy
out,
we'll
go
with
your
stuff
and
then
five
minutes
later
nope
we're
not
doing
that
anymore.
So
I,
don't
think,
have
a
problem
with
the
informal
process
of
the
consensus
format
here
that
we're
doing
it's
legitimately,
frustrating.
P
Actually
I
would
just
I'm
not
blaming
you
anyway
whatsoever,
but
the
thing
that
is
very
frustrating
to
me
is
that
we
come
up
with
suggestion,
go
ahead
and
tell
mr.
powers
to
do
it
and
then
we
go
on
and
we
discussed
the
next
one
and
then
we
go
back
to
that,
and
that
is
a
little
bit
frustrating
to
me
too.
O
B
Excellent
I
am
here
and
consensus
to
stick
with
the
wording
that
mr.
power
suggested
for
goal
shop
three
and
to
leave
the
objectives
alone.
Let's
move
on
to
goal
learn
one.
Unless
anybody
else
that's
increased
educational
and
learning
opportunities
for
English
citizens.
Does
anybody
have
a
comment
about
that?
And/Or
the
objectives
underneath
them.
H
M
M
M
M
A
K
A
A
They're,
bringing
people
out
of
the
state
and
giving
them
special
permits
to
be
electricians,
because
there
just
isn't
enough
people
here
in
this
state
to
do
it.
So
it's
I
think
this
is
very
appropriate
and
I'm
fine
with
the
way
it
sits
and
I
like
the
idea
that
if
we've
got
space,
we
have
some
classroom
space
that
we
can
potentially
use
people
to
use
for
programs
to
better
the
quality
of
life
of
our
residents.
F
I
think
goal
to
where
we're
supporting
the
school
district
is
more
appropriate
than
anything.
That's
in
one.
We
don't
really
have
the
opportunity
to
to
impact
that,
like
that
and
except
through
our
own
facilities
that
we
have
currently
and
the
school
district.
So
I,
don't
know
why
we're
not
just
supporting
the
school
district,
the
community
college
system
and
the
community
ad
system,
if
they
they
have
waiting
lists
for
certain
programs.
I
think
that
are
pretty.
F
Pretty
sought-after
today
and
they
have
the
opportunity
to
go
ahead
and
change
quickly.
You
know
to
come
up
to
speed
when
the
census,
you
know
when
people
are
looking
for
more
IT
people
are
they're.
Looking
for
more
nurses,
I
know,
ACC
still
has
waiting
lists
for
their
nursing
program
or
their
mortuary
program
or
the
car
program
there's
still
one
of
the
nationally
recognized
programs.
C
Information,
please
recall
to
counsel
that
one
of
the
eight
priority
results
that
you
have
for
a
priority
based
budgeting
is
recreational,
cultural,
educational
and
lifelong
learning,
opportunities
and
I
know
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity
yet
to
bring
forward
programs
that
show
you
where
these
were
these
specifically
aligned
with
that
particular
priority
result.
But
there
are
lots
of
programs
that
do
fit
in
that,
mostly
again
in
the
recreational
realm,
either
at
the
Rec
Center
or
the
Mallee.
C
C
An
excellent
question
I
think
that's
something
for
you
to
decide
as
a
council
again,
but
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that
point
too
well.
I
agree
with
you
say
that
we
need
to
be
looking
more
towards
the
schools,
but
this
is
something
that
we
do
provide
to
as
a
as
a
piece
of
our
a
major
piece
of
our
budgeting.
I.
F
Guess
that's
what
I
was
asking
was
whether
it
was
really
appropriate
in
the
comp
plan
or
whether
it
was
more
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
we
have
to
to
have
the
wok
and
wheels
we
have
to
have
the
next
stepping
wood.
We
have
to
have
the
complan.
We
have
to
have
everything
as
if
every
piece
is
on
its
own
I
mean
they're
going
to
work
together.
We
don't
have
to
reiterate
and
regurgitate
every
single
thing
and
every
single
thanks
for.
M
M
G
I
was
just
specifically
looking
at
go,
learn
one
first,
I
wasn't
kind
of
considering
the
other
ones,
but
I
think
part
of
go
learn.
One
is
also
our
library.
Our
library
offers
a
lot
of
adult
programs,
education.
They
have
language
classes,
they
have
writing
groups.
They
have
a
number
of
programs
that
lead
right
into
this.
B
Of
the
things
we're
coming
forward
with
this
was
job,
fair
and
so
I
think
that'll
be
a
great
indicator
of
what
type
of
local
demand
is
there,
and
is
there
some
major
employers
in
the
region
even
that
we
could
start
to
develop
programs
for
in
the
future?
Do
you
guys
this
point
so
I
think
you
know
that
job
fair
I
think
is
gonna,
be
great
indicator
of
what
type
of
local
demand
there
is
here.
Steve,
I'm,
sorry.
M
F
And
I
remember
going
over.
It
was
somebody
with
the
census,
some
people
we
were
comparing
things
with
little
tenon
I,
was
kind
of
very
surprised
that
we
are
we're
very
comparable,
not
as
far
office.
We
like
to
diss
ourselves
from
our
neighboring
community,
either
age,
wise
or
money,
wise
or
education
wise,
but
that's
what
I
remember,
unfortunately,
not
savings
wise
or
the
health
of
them.
A
Comment
about
working
with
businesses,
I
think,
would
be
a
good
one.
I
know.
In
the
past
year
I've
worked
with
half
a
dozen
young
people
and
so
I'm,
not
so
young
in
the
thirties
to
just
get
their
GEDs.
A
lot
of
these
folks
are
they're
scared
to
begin
with,
because
of
whatever
reasons
they
never
got
their
their
diploma.
A
In
the
first
place,
they
don't
know
what
their
options
are,
and,
frankly
a
lot
of
employers
don't
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
options
for
people
to
get
something
as
simple
as
a
GED,
so
that
would
in
itself,
even
if
it
was
just
a
flier
that
went
out
to
the
business
community,
saying
hey
high
school
or
whatever,
but
I
think
that's
very
much.
A
part
of
what
we
should
be
doing
is
encouraging.
M
N
M
B
H
B
A
One
point
three:
you
know
we're
specifically
saying
malli
and
recreation
and
now
the
library,
but
is
that,
do
we
want
to
narrow
it
down
to
just
those
particular
things?
I
mean
our
own
service
center,
very
I'm,
not
saying
they
should
or
would,
but
they
potentially
could
have
an
opportunity
there.
You
know
so
I
guess
maybe
provide
activities.
B
The
idea
of
a
catch-all,
because
I
do
think
those
three
facilities
are
the
ones
that
are
more
directly
open
to
the
public
that
are
kind
of
low-hanging
fruit,
but
I,
like
the
idea
that
you
know,
perhaps
is
something
that'll
work
somewhere
else.
Anybody
else
wanted
a
voice
support
or
against
that.
What.
F
Stephen
said
you
know
if
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
do
that
you
know:
consumer
Martinez
is
right,
we're
dissing
the
library
and
they
have
a
huge
contribution
in
this
community.
So
if
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
doing
that
and
we're
going
to
show
that
we
have
that
commitment,
then
I
think
we
ought
to
put
maybe
some
stronger
language
in
there
that
we
not
that
the
city
will.
H
F
Least
for
us
that
if
there's
an
opportunity
that
we
make
the
city
facilities
available
when
those
things
come
up,
so
that
people
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
place,
that's
free
to
have
these
kind
of
events
or
trainings,
or
that
that
they
want
that.
We
make.
We
make
a
solid
commitment
in
there
that
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
the
city
participates
in
that,
so
I
think.
Actually
it
should
be
more
specific.
F
Steve
brings
up
a
good
point,
I
mean
if
you
take
something
like
what's
going
on
with
ACC,
and
they
have
this
award-winning
mechanics
program
and
we
have
a
service
center
that
could
participate
in
those
kind
of
internships
and
things.
We
ought
to
make
sure
that
we're
committing
to
it
that
we're
making
our
facilities
our.
F
F
I'm
sure
they
do
so
I
think
we
really
ought
to
make
a
much
bigger,
more
definite,
commitment
and
statement
in
here
that
that's
what
we're
going
to
do
that
if
these
opportunities
come
through
this
community
room,
Hampton,
Hall,
the
library,
the
service
center,
the
molle
center
that
we're
making
that
that
commitment
and
we're
going
to
have
those
things
available
to
people
at
no
charge,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
happens.
If
we're
gonna,
if
we're
going
to
do
it,
then
we
might
as
well
enjoying
it
all
and
not
make
it
vague.
B
M
M
O
F
But
that
we
would
encourage
I
mean
that
not
I
mean
stronger
language
than
encourage
that
if
those
opportunities
come
available
that
we
are
committed
to
them,
whether
they're
with
the
judges
office
or
the
attorney's
office,
or
the
service
center
or
Molly,
or
the
recreation,
whatever
it
is,
or
with
the
city
manager's
office.
Who
knows
maybe
there's
some
up-and-coming
City
future
city
managers
that
want
to
come
in
the
intern.
So
our
mayor
guys,
so
maybe
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
that.
But.
B
Organizations,
you
know
and
I
feel
like.
Perhaps
what
we're
talking
about
is
another
objective
that
would
provide
learning
opportunities
within
our
own
organization
for
internships
and
those
type
of
things.
What
working
with
local
educational
type
of
programs
to
be
able
to
provide
those
opportunities?
It's.
F
Certain
councilmember
Yates
and
councilmember
Martinez
you
can
possibly
go
ahead
and
list
the
other
two
and
not
lose
the
library.
I
mean
and
I
do
think
to
Steve's
point.
We
probably
should
put
in
another
area
of
the
city
like
the
service
center
to
just
give
that
and
then
at
all,
maybe
after
that,
so
that
people
understand
that
we're
not
just
talking
about
the
ones
that
currently
provide
some
educational
opportunities.
That
believe,
that's
part
of
their
current
mission
statement
that
we
really
are
branching
out.
F
B
So
now
we're
talking
about
1.3
and
should
we
add
the
library
and
the
service
center
and
then
and
catch-all?
Can
people
weigh
in
again
on
the
specific
language
they'd
like
to
see
in
1.3
and
again
whether
or
not
you'd
like
to
see
this
kind
of
internal
operations
piece
be
a
separate
objective
or
try
to
be
rolled
into
one
of
these
as
well?
G
H
A
A
M
M
B
F
F
F
M
F
Absolutely
I
think
that
to
both
councilmember
Russell's
point
and
councilmember
Olson
I
think
if
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
specific
that
we
leave
this
one
more
generalized.
Then
I
would
take
back
my
original
decision
to
have
all
three
there
and
do
something:
that's
a
little
bit
more
specific
and
add
another
one
on
and
leave
this
one
just
all
facilities
and
then
have
another
one.
F
That's
got
something
more
to
what
you're
talking
about
I
think
would
be
something
I
would
like
to
explore,
and
so,
in
that
case,
I
think
we
would
benefit
by
having
this
one
be
a
little
bit
more
generalized
like
Rita.
You
don't
object
to
me,
calling
me
that
Rita
I
might
I
get
the
tongue-twisting
Rita
said
about
keeping
it
more
general
and
then
to
your
point
about
maybe
having
something
in
there
where
we
are
a
little
bit
more,
have
that
specificity
and
that
other
another
area
where
we're
actually
addressing
that
piece.
F
If
we
don't
do
the
separate
piece,
then
I
do
believe
that
we
should
call
out
some
of
the
opportunities
so
that
people
as
what
councilmember
gates
said
earlier,
gets
them
thinking.
And
if
you
put
something
that's
out
of
the
normal
realm
of
an
educational
opportunity,
current
in
the
city
like
the
service
center,
something
that
you'll
get
people
thinking
that
we
are
broadening
that
opportunity
for
them.
So.
H
B
F
Would
if
we're
not
going
to
add
a
separate
piece
like
what
counts
a
member
Olson
discussed,
which
I
would
agree
with
doing
I
think
that's
worth
pursuing.
Then,
if
we're
not
doing
that,
then
let's
call
out
all
of
the
organizations
and
add
something
that
isn't
in
the
normal
realm
of
an
educational
thing
that
we
already
do
to
show
that
we're
expanding
that
and
where
some
opportunities
are.
F
B
O
If
you
did
want
to
craft
something
around
that
alternative
language,
around
internships,
I
could
offer
you
something
for
your
consideration.
Please
fall,
but
you
could
say:
encourage
internship
and
vocational
development
opportunities
within
the
city
of
Englewood
or
organization,
and
the
business
community.
M
F
And
I
and
I
guess
it's
all
I'm
wanting
to
see
this
reflect.
Is
that
we're
wanting
to
control
that
we're
walking
the
walk?
We're
not
just
talking
the
talk,
go,
hey
we're
gonna,
encourage
this,
but
that
we
are
committed
to
making
us
available
our
facilities
available.
Our
expertise
available
are
we're
gonna,
provide
opportunity
here
and
we're
also
going
to
encourage
the
businesses
to
do
it,
though,
because
we
don't
have
as
much
control
so
I
thought
you
were
wanting
to
craft
something
that
was
a
little
bit
more
like
committal,
okay,.
M
F
B
B
B
A
M
F
C
A
A
A
E
M
A
Well,
I'm
thinking
more
of
a
general
sort
of
term
I
know
that
not
every
department
within
this
city
would
be
an
appropriate
place
to
do.
A
internship
I
think
that's
kind
of
up
to
the
department
themselves
to
make
that
decision,
if
it's
appropriate
or
if
they
have
a
spot
for
my
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
telling
every
department
they
have
to,
but
as
a
community.
We
would
like
to
see
more
opportunities
for
this.
M
B
Linda,
my
answer
to
you
is
yes,
so
that
you
know
there
would
be
some
later
follow
up
to
say:
hey,
which
are
the
appropriate
departments
and
programs.
Is
it
one
or
is
it
each
department
you
know
comes
up
with
their
own
or
how
do
we
gonna
handle
that
I
think
that
type
of
strategy
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
laid
out
in
the
objective
Loretta.
F
I
agree
with
councilmember
Olson
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
just
doing
stuff
here
to
just
feel
warm
and
fuzzy
and
great
about
doing
it.
Otherwise
the
things
that
we
have
control
over
then,
if
we're
putting
it
in
this
document,
then
we
have
to
know
that
we're
going
to
put
the
meat
on
the
bones
of
it
that
that's
the
obligation.
That's
the
commitment
that
this
means
something
that
we're
not
just
wasting
our
time
here.
F
So
if
this
is
something
that
is
that
valuable
and
that
important
to
us
to
put
into
this
document,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
that,
especially
since
we
don't
have
control
over
business,
we
know
that
we
can
suggest
to
them.
We
can
encourage
we
can,
but
what
we
do
have
control
over
is
this
organization,
and
if
we're
not
going
to
go
ahead
and
make
that,
why
should
we
have
the
business?
Follow
us
they're
not
going
to
follow
us
if
we're
not
even
committed
to
doing
it,
so
I
believe
that
stronger
language
would
be
appropriate.
K
A
As
time
goes
on,
we
review
every
couple
of
years
every
year
we
kind
of
review,
what's
happening
within
this
comp
plan
and
determine
if
things
need
more
attention
or
if
maybe
it
was
a
bad
call
on
our
part
to
say
this,
and
maybe
we
should
just
go
ahead
and
remove
it.
But
at
this
stage
again
it's
we're
giving
vision.
P
I
find
it
interesting
that
this
is
the
20,000
foot
view
that
we're
just
giving
vision,
because
this
is
pretty
detailed,
I
mean
you
wouldn't
need
this
many
pages
just
for
the
vision.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
careful.
The
document
is
already
really
long
and
look
how
many
weeks
we've
already
spent
on
this
councilmember
Yates
and
how
many
more
weeks
we're
going
to
be
spending
on
it
two
years
from
now.
That's
not
that
far
I
don't
want
to
deal
with
this
again.
I
want
to
get
it
right.
The
first
time.
B
G
A
F
Do
energy
efficiency
I've
even
attended
a
couple
of
classes
that
the
city
of
Littleton
is
sponsored
on
water
and
and
just
how
to
how
to
do
your
property
in
different
ways
to
capture
water
on
your
property
so
that
you're
not
wasting
it
or
so
that
you're
not
having
problems
with
it
as
well
and
not
rain
barrel
kind
of
stuff
I
mean
pretty
pretty
pretty
nice
information
on
there.
So
there's
this
really
huge
piece
out
there
that
could.
F
But
now
that
councilmember
Yates
brought
that
up
I
think
maybe
it
would
be
better
served
if
we
went
ahead
and
did
it
with
the
Historic
Society
to
see
what
kind
of
piece
they
might
bring
into
that
too,
because
if
we
have
opportunities
to
use
this
and
have
classes
so
that
we're
may
be
maintaining
or
at
least
contributing
to
remodel
and
then
being
able
to
give
them
some
information
on
historic
piece,
we
might
be
able
to
bring
it.
That
might
be
a
section.
We
could
bring
the
historic
preservation
and
as
well
at
least
as
an
acknowledgement.
M
M
F
B
I
would
like
to
weigh
in
here
real
quick
I
agree
that
you
know
there
should
be
a
historic
piece
somewhere
in
the
learn,
learn
if
this
is
the
best
spot
I
like
the
idea
of
at
least
for
now,
including
the
language
that
Amy
suggested,
as
well
as
some
historic
preservation
reference
here,
and
then
we
kind
of
loop
back
around
to
all
the
historic
spots
as
we
think
about
them
and
meet
with
them.
Others
want
to
weigh
in.
F
B
H
G
H
D
G
O
B
B
M
M
F
F
When
I
was
on
counsel
before
I
did
the
invocation
for
that
four
years
and
they
had
the
cards
that
had
been
used
and
I
don't
know
if
we
could
go
back
to
doing
something
like
that,
where
it's
more
of
a
open
thing,
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
want
to
open
it
up,
because
once
you
open
it
up
to
the
public,
then
I
don't
think
there's
anybody
we
can
refuse
and
I
think
that's
a
dangerous
thing
to
do.
This
is
a
council
function
right
and
and
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into.
B
M
F
F
But
I
think
some
pressure
gets
put
on
from
certain
individuals
with,
and
maybe
it's
just
when
certain
people
are
talking
I
don't
know,
but
I
I
do
feel
and
have
talked
to
the
mayor
about
this
speaking
over
people
and
doesn't
just
happen
to
me
so
I'm
sure
it's
something
he's
working
on
and
maybe
I'm
a
little
more
sensitive
to
it.
Now
I
don't
know,
but
I
thought
tonight
went
really
well
so
I,
don't
know
that
I
suppose
well
is
in
the
mind
of
the
beholder
of
the
councilperson
whatever,
but
I
generally
feel
that
we
do.
F
And
I
appreciate
the
letter
that
they
sent
on
the
on
the
prayer
and
I've
counseled
once
you
decide
to
switch
it
around
or
do
whatever,
but
we
did
choose
councilmember
Russell
to
do
this
and
we
didn't
exactly
give
direction
and
say
you
can
only
do
this
and
you
can
only
do
that
because
I
think.
If
that's
what
we're
deciding,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
conversation
with
the
person.
F
That's
made
that
decision
to
to
do
the
invocation
and
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
it,
and
we
probably
would
want
to
make
sure,
counsel
and
agility
is
here,
but
I
thought
it
was
a
productive
meeting
tonight.
So,
for
the
most
part,
there's
always
going
to
be
bumps
in
the
road,
but
I
think
every
one
of
us
have
have
at
times
felt
slighted
by
the
mayor
and
at
times
felt
good
he's
on
my
side
today
and
not
gonna
torture
me.
F
B
G
H
G
We
did
have
a
really
productive
meeting
tonight
and
I
think
it
had
to
do
partially
with
the
topic
that
we
were
discussing
and
it
seems
like
we
all
really
care
about
it
and
it's
from
a
positive
place
and
its
new
and
it's
it's.
You
know
the
background
behind.
It
is
giving
us
all
to
a
better
place
in
our
city
to
be
better.
G
So
I
want
us
to
not
forget
that
when
we're
having
discussions
and
when
we're
kind
of
getting
interrupted
or
somebody's
irritated
or
whatever
I
want
us
to
just
keep
in
the
back
of
our
pockets
that
we're
all
here,
because
we
love
our
city
and
that
we
really
care,
and
sometimes
we
are
we're
passionate.
So
sometimes
we
can
feel
certain
ways,
but
I
just
want
to
keep
that
in
our
back
pocket
that
we're
all
here,
because
for
the
same
reasons
we
love
our
city
and
we
want
to
make
it
better.
So
thank
you.
G
G
I,
wasn't
surprised
how
much
they
talked
about,
they
loved
the
library
and
they
loved
the
art
bus,
and
they
did
mention
that
they
would
love
to
go
to
the
Inglewood
concerts.
But
the
art
bus
doesn't
go,
it's
done.
It's
like
five
o'clock
and
the
concert
start
at
6:30,
so
they
can
get
down
there,
but
they
can't
get
back
so
just
an
idea.
That
was
something
they
wanted
to
participate
in,
but
weren't
able
to
use
that.
G
I
also
appreciated
the
email
about
the
the
prayer.
I
have
felt
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
with
that
I'm,
not
particular
I,
don't
sign
up
for
any
particular
religion
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
better
for
and
I've
had
also
members
of
the
community
come
to
me
and
say
that
they
are
very
uncomfortable
with
the
implication
even
before
I
was
on
council,
so
I
think
it's
better.
G
If
we
either
open
it
up
or
switch
it
around
or
have
a
moment
of
silence
or
maybe
have
team
members
take
turns
or
I
like
the
idea
of
opening
up
two
different
faiths
but
I
think
then
it
would
get
into
a
very
labor
some
process
about
you
know
laying
people
sign
up
and
decide
who's
gonna
speak
one
and
I
think
that
would
be
very
labor.
Some
and
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
see.
In
that
sure.
F
F
F
G
And
I
don't
have
any
particular
agenda,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
inclusive
and
we
need
to
not
by
mistake
how
people
feel
like
a
side
effects
that
they
are
left
out
or
they're,
not
being
included
so
any
way
that
we
could
be
more
inclusive
in
this
process.
I
think
would
be
good
and
obviously
at
least
one
person
made
a
formal.
You
know
issue.
A
A
You
know.
So
if
we
keep
from
specifically
stating
anything
that
could
be
construed
as
a
specific
religion,
I
think
we
can.
We
can
still
accomplish
what
we
want
to
accomplish
and
show
that
we
are
doing
this
to
make
decisions
not
on
our
own
will,
but
the
will
of
God
or
the
universe
or
nature
whatever
your
your
specific
deity
may
be,
and
I
think
the
only
folks
that
will
probably
insult
would
be
the
atheist.
A
A
F
B
M
F
A
I
am
so
excited
about
the
future
of
Englewood
I.
Think
we
have
so
many
positive
things
going
on
and
our
future
is
very
bright
and
part
of
being
leaders
is
that
we
need
to
point
that
part
of
of
what
the
opportunities
are
out
to
the
community.
And,
yes,
we
do
have
things
that
we
need
to
fix
and,
yes,
we
do
need
to
address
those
things,
but
part
of
being
leaders
is
creating
a
vision
and
I
just
I'm
just
really
excited
about.
Where
were
the
opportunities
we
have.
B
F
F
H
D
B
Be
aware
that
I
am
cognizant
of
that,
and
and
for
those
who
feel
like
it
is
an
issue,
it
is
something
I'm
working
on
and
will
be
appreciated.
Steve's
comments
about,
you
know,
sort
of
being
excited
for
the
future.
You
know
this
vision,
process
of
long
term
planning.
It
really
does
get
you
excited
about
the
future.
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
great
opportunities.
As
a
council,
you
know
we've
gone
through
a
bit
of
a
goal-setting
session
and
I.
Think
we've
gained
some
consensus
on
some
really
wonderful
things,
and
you
know
right
now.
B
I
know
that
that
vision
might
be
a
little
more
shotgunned
or
scattered
than
we'd
like
it
to
be.
You
know,
in
my
mind,
I
feel
like
I.
Do
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
you
know,
talking
points
that
I
work
with
with
the
public
where
I
feel
like
we,
we
do
have
some
consensus
around
some
sort
of
central
themes.
I
think
I've
highlight
a
few
of
those
for
you
before
you
know
again
the
five
that
I
really
hit
on.
In
addition
to
that,
you
know,
the
long-term
plans
is
economic
development,
customer
service,
communication
placemaking.
B
B
G
C
Week,
I
was
brought
up
by
believe
councilor
Olson,
who
asked
for
a
town
hall
meeting
concerning
the
island
filter
plant
and
so
I've
talked
with
staff
about
that
and
and
I
think
staff
agrees
that
they'd
be
happy
to
put
that
on
with
the
help
of
people
like
CDM
Smith
who's,
the
engineer
of
the
plant,
as
well
as
our
Cadis,
who
we
utilize
quite
heavily
with
respect
to
you,
know
residual
analysis
and
management
of
residuals
and
disposal,
and
so
before.
We
scheduled
that.
C
M
M
C
F
C
A
G
B
F
I
think
he
came
out
of
the
synergy
of
the
council
meeting
before
and
I
actually
think
that
the
idea
was
coming
from
the
citizens
as
much
that
conversation.
So
since
the
people
that
were
in
the
audience,
you
know
quite
a
few
of
them
that
live
over
in
that
area
seem
to
be
nodding
their
heads
that
they
would
like
that
opportunity
in
that
access.
F
We
just
you
have
to
be
careful
because
you
have
a
pretty
you
have
quite
a
few
of
them
that
are
pretty
savvy.
Pretty
smart
people
have
looked
into
this
quite
a
bit,
so
we
need
to
know
that
it's
not
just
going
to
be
that
you
get
to
say
it's
safe
now,
be
quiet
now
feel
better
now
feel
safe,
and
it's
it's
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
and
a
lot
of
them
are
really
researching
this
quite
a
bit.
B
C
C
C
Preview
of
coming
attractions
next
Monday,
the
first
eye
and
I've
been
negligent.
It's
not
mayor,
Jefferson's
fault.
With
respect
to
travel.
He
has
a
desire
to
go
to
the
doctor.
Cog
meeting
and
I
didn't
prepare
the
travel
paperwork
appropriately.
So
if
you're
gonna
be
upset,
you
get
upset
with
me.
So
that's
gonna
be
coming
next
week
for
council
approval
under
mayor's
choice,
but
that
that
memo
will
go
out
next
week.