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From YouTube: City Council Study Session 06 Sep 2016
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I. Parks and Recreation Master Plan Update 6:00 – 6:25 p.m.
II. Historic Preservation 6:25-7:25 p.m.
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Okay,
good
evening,
everybody
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
welcome
to
the
City
Council
study
session.
Our
first
agenda
item
of
the
evening
is
Parks
and
Rec
master
plan,
update
parks,
recreation
and
library,
director
Dorothy
Hargrove
as
president
to
discuss
the
Parks
and
Rec
master
plan
update.
J
Good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council
I
got
this
right.
There
we
go.
We
are
here
to
provide
an
update
on
the
public
process
that
we
have
gone
through
to
gather
information
about
the
needs
for
Parks
and
Recreation.
All
the
research
we've
done
about
Pirates
Cove
and
the
feasibility
of
a
possible
expansion
and
are
looking
for
your
guidance
and
input
as
we
put
together.
The
the
draft
plan,
which
you
will
then
receive
for
for
further
comment.
I
will
introduce
Jenna
Mackenzie
from
our
consulting
firm
and
Joe
sack
our
recreation
services
manager.
E
All
right
as
I
understand
it,
we
have
about
a
30
minute
agenda
item
here,
25
minutes,
so
we're
gonna
go
through
this
fairly
quickly,
so
that
you
have
plenty
of
time
for
questions
that,
hopefully
we
can
answer
so
we're
going
to
go
through
the
process
kind
of
what's
going
on
with
it's
needs
assessment
and
what's
coming
out
of
it,
Pirates
Cove
concepts,
upcoming
public
outreach.
So
what
we've
done
is
a
lot
of
work
and
we've
met
a
lot
with
the
community.
E
You
know
between
the
survey
and
I
can't
remember
at
what
stage
we
are
here
last
time
to
be
honest
with
you
in
terms
of
the
update,
it
was
early
phase
one.
So
a
lot
of
stakeholder
interviews
and
public
meetings
and
in
the
park's
online
survey,
kind
of
things
needs
assessment,
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
so
there
that's
what
we
did
early.
E
You
know
you
guys
are
doing
a
great
job
and
I
think
that
that
we
have
these
different
categories
of
benefits
that
that
you
provide,
for
example,
with
the
homes
that
are
near
parks
can
be
valued
more
provide
a
really
important
community
identity,
healthy
living,
economic
development,
youth
engagement,
its
kind
of
services.
So
it's
nice
to
make
sure.
E
D
E
No,
that
was
the
last
time
I
was
wondering
why
I
would
had
deja
vu
here.
We
need
to
put
in
the
other
one
that
matches
this
presentation.
That
was
in
that
I
do
I
apologize
for
that.
We
have
a
technical
difficulties
here.
Refresher
course.
Meanwhile,
I
understand
that
you
all
have
blocks
right,
so
don't
throw
them
at
us
right
now
and
that
when
you
have
a
question,
you're
gonna
turn
them
up
right.
So
we
can
see.
K
E
J
E
There
we
go
I
was
wondering
why
those
check
marks
weren't
further
down
the
process
there
I
apologize
for
that
all
right,
so
I
guess
the
short
story
is.
Is
that
we'll
be
back
to
you
with
a
public
draft
for
you
guys
to
have
the
comment,
as
Dorothy
said
before
so
we've
had
nearly
600
citizens
participate
and
we're
going
to
do
some
more
outreach,
and
it
was
really
good
with
a
lot
of
the
meetings
in
the
parks
that
were
well
attended.
E
So
it
was
wonderful
to
intercept
people
in
the
parks
that
maybe
hadn't
even
intended
to
show
up
for
a
meeting,
but
we
found
them
and
they
came
by
and
then
other
people
knew
about
it
and
showed
up.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
engagement.
We
had
it
at
Cushing
Park
and
talked
about
some
of
the
things
that
could
happen
at
Cushing
Park
the
recommendations
that
are
emerging
out
of
there.
It's
it's
it's
it's
it
needs
some
love.
Cushing
does
and
needs
new
shelters.
They
aren't
particularly
safe
now
the
restrooms.
E
So
there's
things
like
to
the
pond
to
improve
the
edges
and
and
it's
approachability,
the
multi-use
field
out
there.
We
there
could
be
some
things
that
are
done
to
make
that
more
functional,
better
landscaping
and
lighting
and
there's
west
side
of
inca
that
the
city
owns.
You
know
we're
a
little
dry.
Creek
goes
out
on
that
side
over
there.
That's
underutilized
underappreciated,
but
it's
also
kind
of
overgrown
and
has
become
a
place
where
people
some
ace,
unsavory
activities
happen
and
people
don't
particularly
feel
safe,
sometimes
on
the
trail.
E
So
there's
things
that
are
coming
out
of
that.
That
would
improve
that.
That
area.
Miller
field,
as
you
know,
has
served
the
youth
athletics
ball
field
for
a
long
time,
and
you
know
they've
relied
heavily
on
those
use
of
those
fields
but
with
miller
field.
There's
some
new
thinking
about
possibilities
of
a
part
of
the
community
feels
pretty
strongly
about
the
ball
fields
and
other
ones
feel
really
strongly
about
having
a
civic
park
in
the
location,
it's
sort
of
ripe
for
some
improvements
there
and
a
festival
space.
E
You
know
places
where
the
community
it's
larger
piece
of
property,
where
you
can
actually
do
more
with
festivals
and
it's
very
centrally
located
kind
of
in
the
heart
of
the
community.
So
so
those
are
the
things
that
are
emerging
out
of
the
Miller
field.
Well,
I.
What
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
some
of
the
synergies
with
the
potential
safety
police
complex
over
there
could
be
quite
synergetic
with
some
of
the
improvements
as
well.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
captured
as
a
synergy.
E
If
that
proposal
moves
forward,
a
lot
of
the
parks
need
infrastructure
improvements,
including
irrigation
upgrades,
so
you've
got
standard
sort
of
playground,
upgrades
that
need
to
happen,
some
other
older
shelters
in
parks
that
need
to
be
upgraded,
and
that
really
needs
to
be
a
priority.
You
have
these
assets
and
it's
time
to
pay
some
attention
to
those
and
make
those
more
functional
for
today
and
the
pot.
The
types
of
improvements
reflect
community
feedback,
so
we
had
all
of
the
parks
arrayed
where
people
made
wish
lists.
E
That
said,
here's
what
they
would
like:
here's
things
that
they
would
like
changed.
You
know
new
things
or
things
that
are
changed.
So
all
of
those
improvements
for
each
of
the
parks
and
I'm
we're
not
going
to
go
through
each
of
them
right
now
and
you'll
see
those
in
the
draft
plan
when
you
get
that
Duncan
Park
is
your
sort
of
flagship
example:
it's
a
beautiful
park
and
people
absolutely
love
it.
So
we
would
love
to
be
able
to
see
those
kinds
of
things
happen
over
the
next
ten
years
in
your
parks.
E
L
Along
along
with
evaluating
all
of
our
facilities
and
parks,
spaces
and
all
of
our
amenities,
we're
also
taking
a
deeper
dive
looking
in
all
of
our
program
and
the
scorecard
is
an
evaluation
tool
that
is
being
used
to
recommend
the
improvements
to
all
of
our
services
offered
by
Parks
and
Recreation.
So,
as
you
can
see
by
the
diagram,
is
that
if
your
services
were
running
along
a
continuum
along
the
bottom
and
if
you
take
a
look
at
all,
the
services
are
kind
of
diagonal.
L
All
the
programs
and
and
activities
that
we
offer
basically
are
along
the
public
service
line,
and
then
you
kind
of
go
up
the
opposite
side
of
the
left
side
of
the
grid,
which
is
the
cost
recovery
expectation.
So,
as
you
move
for
more
of
a
public
offering
of
programs
all
the
way
up
to
more
private
programs,
you
would
anticipate
that
your
cost
recovery
would
be
higher.
L
Now,
to
take
a
look
more
at
our
service
categories
you
see
listed
on
the
right
are
all
the
categories
and
in
order
of
more
public,
on
top
all
the
way
to
the
more
private
entity,
so
your
open
access
is
really
a
park,
would
be
a
good
definition
of
what
does
open
access
mean
and
it's
a
park.
People
can
go
there,
they
can
drop
in.
You
don't
have
to
schedule
anything.
L
It's
just
open
to
the
public
in
food
and
beverage
as
being
a
very
private
service,
because
I'm
consuming
something
I'm
buying
something
to
be
consumed,
and
that
could
be
identified
like
at
our
Pirates
Cove
concession
stand.
People
are
buying
a
product,
a
piece
of
pizza
for
lunch,
that
that
is
the
service,
and
so
it's
a
very
private
service.
L
And
this
is
just
a
matrix
that
the
scorecard
provides
us.
So
basically,
the
first
thing
that
we
take
a
look
at
with
our
services
is:
does
it
align
with
our
purpose
and
it's
basically
an
easy
question
to
ask
you
know
it's
yes
or
no?
Do
these
programs
really
align
with
our
purpose
or
mission
with
the
city
and
basically
from
there?
You
just
follow
the
grid
along
down
the
line,
financial
viability?
Is
it
something
where
we
are
able
to
recover
costs
for
the
program?
Is
it
financially
viable?
L
Can
we
offer
the
service
at
a
reasonable
cost,
and
then
we
go
into
the
target
market
position,
which
is
basically
are
we
capable
of
providing
that
service?
And
you
have
your
yes
or
no
based
upon
the
matrix,
and
then
you
get
down
to
the
competitive
position
where
that
is.
What
is
the
market
in
our
community?
Are
other
people
offering
the
same
activity
and
a
good
example
of
that
would
be
parks,
there's
no
one,
that's
competing
with
us
and
offering
a
park
and
we're
the
only
competitor
so
we're
in
a
good
competitive
position
with
parks.
L
I
can't,
and
so
at
the
end
result
of
this
matrix.
Basically,
as
we
run
each
through
our
services
through
this
matrix,
it
will
tell
us
the
answer
that
either
are
we
going
to
invest
in
the
service?
Are
we
going
to
collaborate
with
other
people
that
might
be
in
our
competitive
market,
or
is
this
something
that
it
aligns
with
our
purpose
with
the
mission?
L
But
we
know
that
it's
going
to
be
something
that
the
city
is
going
to
want
to
subsidize
and
continue
that
subsidy,
or
is
it
best
for
us
to
try
to
take
a
look
at
the
exit
strategy
of?
How
do
we
remove
ourselves
from
offering
this
service
just
because
it's
not
viable
at
all,
and
that's
what
the
scorecard
process
will
guide
us
through
with
each
of
our
programs
and
service
levels,.
L
Moving
on
to
Pirates
Cove,
the
feasibility
study
has
shown
that
Pirates
Cove
is
very
successful,
as
we
all
knew,
and
it
continues
to
do
so,
but
to
continue
to
be
at
our
competitive
level
and
the
remain
in
the
market
niche
we're
going
to
have
to
to
continue
to
invest
into
that
product,
and
basically,
we
did
a
very
intensive
study
of
similar
parks.
We
compared
their
offerings
and
amenities
that
they
have.
We
did
a
impact
survey
with
all
the
users
we
actually
even
had
one
of
our
subcontractors
through
the
study.
L
I
actually
sit
out
there
one
whole
day
at
Pirates
Cove
and
do
just
user
input,
everyone
from
the
kids
to
the
adults,
and
basically
the
findings
show
that
you
know
for
us
to
really
and
even
going
back
into
history
when
Pirates
Cove
was
originally
created.
We
knew
that
we
were
going
to
have
to
invest.
We
knew
that
we
were
going
to
have
to
keep
up.
Originally,
the
plan
was
for
us
to
add
an
amenity
to
that
park
every
couple
of
years,
one.
What
that
does
is.
It
helps
us
stay
vital.
L
True
with
the
feasibility
study
we
haven't
been
able
to
keep
up
with
that
and
we
haven't
been,
we've
been
very
well
maintaining
what
we
have,
but
we
haven't
been
able
to
add
new
attractions,
and
basically
the
feasibility
study
has
shown
that
that
our
audience
is
aware
of
that,
and
so
the
recommendations
basically
indicate
that
to
do
all
of
the
things
that
people
would
like
us
to
have
at
the
park.
It's
about
five
million
dollars
for
us
to
be
able
to
add
and
update
the
facility,
not
knowing.
L
If
that's
going
to
be
possible
in
the
very
near
future.
We
actually
took
another
look
at
it
and
said:
well
if
we
were
going
to
phase
this
in
or
if
we
were
going
to
do
some
priority,
what
could
we
do
and
basically
what
we
could
do
is
there's
a
number
of
different
features
and
I
can
go
quickly
through
all
of
them.
The
large
ride
on
the
right
of
the
slide
is
a
matte
racer
and
that's
just
basically
a
large
signature
attraction,
something
where
people
can
do
together.
L
This
is
just
something
that
we
identified.
This
would
necessarily
be
the
the
the
the
ride,
though
it
could
even
be
a
multi-person
raf
ride,
but
we
use
this
as
a
good
example,
because
it's
very
popular
and
people
can
identify
with
it
quickly.
But
you
know
you
can
have
four
users
on
this
example.
You
know
four
users
at
once
use
this
and
they
basically
write
down
mats
and
there's
usually
a
timer
at
the
end.
That
basically
shows
who
was
the
fastest
to
get
down
to
the
end
of
the
slide,
but
that's
a
signature
attraction.
L
That
in
itself
would
be
about
a
1.7
million
dollar
investment,
so
that
would
be
one
phase
that
would
be
able
to
be
able
to
be
completed.
The
other
items
that
would
need
to
be
done
is
a
replacement
of
our
existing
children's
area,
kind
of
an
updating.
It's
a
replacement
of
the
play
structure
and
the
spray
pad,
and
that's
actually
you
can
see
that
it's
a
top
photo
in
the
middle
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
works
or
not
there.
It
is
so
that's
this
photo
right
here
and
that's
where
the
bucket
dump
see.
L
Everybody
knows
where
the
bucket
is
that's
our
play
structure,
and
that
is
something
that
is
in
need
of
being
updated.
It
is
original
to
the
facility,
and
it
has
some
maintenance
issues
that
were
not
able
to
nurse
along
much
longer
we're
doing
the
best
we
can,
but
some
of
the
features
some
of
the
spray
nozzles
just
can't
be
replaced,
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
it's
needs
to
be
updated.
The
spray
ground,
that's
actually
in
the
foreground
of
this
photo
is
actually
even
in
more
need
of
repairs.
L
L
L
Right
now,
really,
that's
only
used
with
a
diving
board
and
we
have
a
drop
slide,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
unutilized
space
in
that
area
that
this
we
just
add
to
an
interaction
that
we
already
have
a
couple.
Other
exciting
features
that
were
identified.
This
is
a
wave
wave
surfer.
So
basically
you
are
able
to
serve
now
that
we
have
surfing
down
at
Riverrun.
People
need
to
place
a
practice,
and
so-
and
this
is
a
very
popular
attraction-
it's
actually
more
for
sightseeing.
L
It's
a
one-person
ride
and
it
usually
lasts
anywhere
from
30
seconds
to
a
minute
and
then
the
next
person's
up.
But
everybody
just
comes
to
be
a
spectator,
to
watch
how
long
people
will
last.
So
it's
it's
a
pretty
exciting
kind
of
entity,
but
it
is
another
expensive
amenity.
It's
about
a
1.5
million
dollar
structure,
just
for
that,
there's
a
lotta,
the
water
supply,
the
piping
and
the
location
to
be
able
to
put
that
another
thing
that
was
identified
through
our
feasibility
study.
The
last
item
is
a
Pahlavi,
a
pavilion
kind
of
a
group
area.
L
This
could
be
something
that
we're
able
to
use
with
our
daycares
that
come
out
throughout
the
daytime,
and
then
we
can
also
rent
out
to
larger
groups,
which
would
also
have
a
return
on
investment
for
that,
so
a
couple
of
these
items
could
be
bundled
together.
This
could
be
basically
a
three-year
phasing
plan
and
we
would
need
to
kind
of
take
a
look
at
how
we
would
be
able
to
do
that
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
If
we
wanted
to
move
that
to
that
direction,.
E
And
then
the
topic
of
off-leash
dogs
came
up
quite
a
bit
in
a
lot
of
the
meetings,
yes
and
and
and
there's
a
there.
There
are
some
conflicts
with
some
other
park
users
out
there,
and
yet
it's
a
very
well
of
a
very
unique
thing
in
in
the
city
of
Englewood.
So
you
know
some
of
the
biggest
conflicts
sometimes
had
to
do
with
the
fields
and
youth
sports
that
that
are
happening
in
the
same
areas
that
people
are
running
some
dogs.
E
So
right
now
the
plan
is,
is
recommending
two
things
to
think
about,
and
it
really
has
to
do
with.
Maybe
some
new
designated
fenced
dog
parks.
You
just
have
that
one
there
right
at
Bellevue
and
some
people
could
use
that
there
might
be
some
areas
for
which
in
which
that
can
be
accommodated.
But
there's
some
you
know
we
have
to
search
for
that
property.
One
area
that
might
have
been
discussed
was
the
west
side
of
the
Cushing.
E
You
know
in
that
area
over
there
next
to
the
little
Dry
Creek
on
the
other
side
of
the
road,
though
access
over
there
is
a
little
challenging.
You
know.
So.
We've
looked
at
some
of
those
things
and
met
there
might
be
something
over
at
Centennial,
Park
or
some
other
place
where
you
can
do
that.
The
next
one
really
has
to
do
with
the
possibility
of
the
licensee
program
and
Boulder
has
a
pretty
interesting
model
on
how
to
do
that.
E
E
It
would
actually
probably
pay
for
the
Ranger
to
salary
to
do
that,
and
you
might
be
able
to
solve
that
and
then
police
the
existing
parks
that
are
being
used
in
a
way
that
makes
sure
that
people
are
cleaning
up
after
each
other,
that
you've
got
the
right
uses
going
on
and
so
forth,
and
it
could
be
a
very
reasonable
fee
for
that.
So
so,
without
having
to
had
this
plan
solve
all
those
issues,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
probably
take
longer,
we
all
believe
it'll
take
longer
in
a
public
process
to
to
do.
E
E
The
the
funding
is
always
a
challenge.
You
know
in
a
community
that
nobody
of
money
doesn't
grow
on
trees,
and
so
it's
going.
The
2006
master
plan
rent
recommended
some
of
those
and
really
none
of
which
really
were
implemented.
So
we'll
relook
at
what
some
of
the
options
are
and
as
you
grow
in
population
you're
going
to
continue
to
have
greater
demand
on
on
the
limited
number
of
facilities
so
that
it's
not
like
the
needs
not
there.
E
And
it's
not
like
people,
don't
appreciate
it
and
can
understand
that
you
need
to
make
some
investments
in
your
park
systems
they.
Certainly
in
the
last
year,
especially
construction
prices
have
gone
up,
and
even
since
February,
probably
up
ten
to
fifteen
percent,
is
what
we've
seen
a
jump
in.
So
there
that's
a
reality
of
our
world,
and
so
knowing
that
we
will
attribute
cost
to
some
of
the
improvements
and
try
to
figure
out
what
that
will
cost
for
these
parks.
E
But
we
would
like
the
city
council
to
be
able
to
put
that
in
your
toolkit
to
say
what
are
these
different
options,
and
so,
when
you
move
forward
the
plan
won't
come
up
and
say
you
have
to
fund
this
this
way
and
that
that
way
right.
So
we'll
give
you
the
suite
of
options
and
potential
range
that
you
might
generate
out
of
different
kinds
of
funding
options.
And
then,
when
you
go
through
that,
just
as
Joe
described
about
Pirates
Cove
you'll
have
a
package
that
you
can
work
on
over
the
next
year.
E
A
I
I
L
So
basically,
as
was
mentioned,
a
very
public
service
would
be
a
park,
so
that
is
its
open.
Anyone.
Anyone
can
come
into
the
facility
and
and
utilize
it
and
those
are
relatively
at
low
costs.
Another
public
service
example
would
be
like
a
special
event,
something
that's
open
to
the
community.
Like
sounds
of
summer
kids
stage
those
types
of
things:
it's
something
that's
open
to
the
public,
it's
a
relatively
little
or
no
cost,
and
it's
open
to
everyone
and
then,
as
you
move
up
to
this.
L
L
The
dual
benefit
is
basically
where
it's
it's
mutually
shared,
so
it's
a
program
where
it
is
going
to
be
subsidized.
The
costs
are
subsidized,
but
then
also
the
individual
user
is
paying
a
portion
of
that.
Now,
it's
not
only
it's
not
always
determined
that
it's
at
50%.
It's
also
it's
a
community
decision
of
how
that
is
subsidized,
so
a
dual
benefit
would
be,
for
example,
a
good
example
would
be
youth
swim,
learn
to
swim.
Lessons
where
you
have
it
very
much.
A
service
aligns
with
the
community's
mission.
You
want
kids
to
be
safe.
L
You
want
them
to
learn
to
swim.
It's
a
safety
concern,
so
we
would
basic.
We
offer
those
programs
and
have
those
programs,
even
though
that
we
know
that
they
to
keep
them
accessible,
that
we
would
have
the
costs
at
a
lower
rate,
so
they
would
pay
some,
but
it
probably
wouldn't
be
100%
cost
recovery
and
then,
as
you
get
up
to
the
private
services,
a
good
example
that
we've
been
using
is
like
a
personal
trainer.
Someone
that
is
coming
in
this
is
an
individual
benefit.
L
I'm
coming
in
to
hire
a
personal
trainer
to
address
some
health
concern
that
I
want
to
work
on
and
basically
at
that
point
in
this
model
would
be
at
a
higher
rate
of
return,
so
might
not
still
be
at
a
hundred
percent
cost
recovery,
but
it
would
be
something
that
it
said
it
much
higher
than
some
of
the
other
programs
that
have
dual
benefit.
It's
a
safety
concern,
but
it's
also
improves
the
individual.
A
private
would
be
basically
the
only
one
is
going
to
get
help
from
being
working
with
the
personal
trainer
as
that
individual.
I
When
we
were
talking
in
the
Parks
and
Rec
were
talking
about
the
philosophy
behind
this,
though,
and
and
the
decision-making
that
has
to
go
into
the
private
services
at
what
level
do
we
subsidize
a
personal
trainer?
That's
a
private
use
that
and
in
what
level
do
you
want
to
recoup
all
of
it
and
we
were
some
of
the
cheapest
private
trained.
If
you
want
to
get
a
private
trainer
angle,
it's
place
to
go
and
they're
good
to
so,
but
to
what
extent
should
public
amenities
or
taxes
be
put
forth
to
provide
a
private
service?
I
I'm
only
bringing
them
up
as
an
example,
so
people
understand
I,
think
I
thought
this
was
really
helpful
to
realize
the
decision-making
process
it
needs
to
go
into
fee
setting
and
we
we
need
to
know
if
we're
gonna
ask
them
to
get
more
fees
out
of
some
of
the
services.
We
have
to
philosophically
agree
that
some
of
these
are
more
important
to
take
more
fees
than
others,
and
it's
a
value
decision
that
every
council's
faced
with
I
think
in
helping
set
those
yes,
community
values
right
and.
E
J
What
I,
I'm,
hoping
that
we'll
get
feedback
and
and
a
level
of
comfort
with,
is
that
this
is
a
framework
by
which
we
can
make
decisions
over
the
next
several
years.
So
if
we
decide
to
stop
providing
personal
training,
we
will
be
able
to
identify
why
that
decision
was
made.
But
it's
not
individual
programs
will
not
be
part
of
the
master
plan,
but
what
we're
hoping
is
that
the
priorities
about
the
parks
that
we
wanted
to
address
primarily
cushing
and
miller?
Would
you
agree
that
those
are
top
priorities
recognizing
that
funding?
J
F
J
Well,
we
continually
increase
the
entrance
fee,
even
as
it
is
I
mean
that
the
the
question
is
the
balance
between
you
know
the
price
and
a
diminishing
return.
You
know
I'm
assuming
we
would
increase
that,
but
we
would
certainly
present
an
analysis
before
we.
You
know
invested
any
further,
but
that's
you
know
it's
it's
it's.
You
know
a
larger
question
of
whether
we
should
continue
to
invest
in
Pirates,
Cove
and
okay
and.
F
And
if
once
the
master
planned,
the
parks
master
plan
is
in
place
it.
It
is
just
a
guideline,
but
what?
If
we
real
that?
There's
no
funding
and
I'll
tell
you.
My
major
concern
is
to
see
things
in
here
like
we
have
a
huge
deferred
maintenance
backlog
and
then,
when
we
apply
for
grant
funding
and
all
of
those
things,
yes,
we
can
do
funding
or,
yes,
we
can
do
maintenance
because
we
maintain
all
of
this
and
and
then
the
growth
piece
to
this
and
buying
new
parkland.
J
F
J
A
J
Again,
that
is
not
necessarily
the
recommendation.
The
recommendation
of
the
plan
is
that
this
is
an
issue
we
need
to
address
what
the
answer
is.
I
I
can't
say,
because
it
is
an
important
amenity.
We
have
to
balance
it
are
there
other
alternatives.
What
we're
recommending
is
a
continuing
discussion
on
the
topic
because
it
came
up
so
loud
and
clear
at
our
community
sessions.
J
E
Think
yep,
we
should
be
a
little
bit
clear,
we're
not
recommending
taking
away
dog
privilege
parks
and
that
the
Ranger
program
would
be
one
step
to
see
how
this
works,
to
manage
some
of
the
issues
that
are
occurring
out
there
right
now.
So
you
know
don't
need
to
get
the
public
all
upset
about
taking
away
something
I.
E
E
We're
small
animals
or
whatever
so
so
perhaps
the
slide
wasn't
clear
enough
on
that,
because
there's
different
levels
of
responsibility
with
the
owners,
but
also
you
know,
dogs
training.
So
so
we
see
a
need
for
an
additional
dog
park
fence
put
dog
park
so
that
people
in
other
is
the
city.
Can
access
that.
So
thank.
A
K
To
Rita's
point
I
appreciate
that
you're
trying
to
create
a
matrix
so
that
you
can
answer
questions,
but
the
matrix
has
to
be
done
within
the
budget
and
the
budget
has
to
be
set
prior
to
that
I
mean
so
I
mean
that
kind
of
it
can't
just
have
been
flow.
Whenever
I
mean
it's
got
to
be
identified
prior
so
that
there
can
be
some
budgeting
that
it's
in
the
budget
framework,
okay
and
then
we've
had
problems
over
the
years.
We
do
have
code
enforcement
right
now
and
code
enforcement
is
supposed
to
enforce.
K
This
I
would
like
to
know-
and
there's
been
some
resistance
to
doing
that
at
both
the
off-leash
parks
and
in
the
fenced-in
areas
for
the
rules
that
are
pretty
clearly
posted
and
every
once
in
a
while.
We
get
a
group
of
people
that
are
upset
one
way
or
the
other,
but
code
enforcement
seems
to
have
been
pretty
reluctant
on
enforcing
that
any
rules
there.
So
either
that
or
there's
no
violations
and
no
need
for
any
of
the
rules.
K
So
if
there
is
no
need
and
the
rules
are
being
followed,
then
it's
unlikely
that
a
ranger
would
pay
for
himself.
If
there
is
some
concern
and
code
enforcement
sparked
that
there
is
the
availability
there
are
that
there
is
not
there's
non-compliance,
then
it
would
be
helpful
to
find
out
exactly
how
they're
enforcing
what
problems
they're,
seeing
to
make
a
determination
on
whether
a
ranger
would
be
sustainable
or
not
or
not,
or
whether
it
would
do
us
any
good.
Well,.
J
You
know,
obviously,
that's
part
of
the
discussion
you're
absolutely
right,
but
we're
recommend
at
this
point.
The
park
ranger
would
not
be
able
to
issue
some
ones.
There
were
some
ones
what
fees
citations.
Thank
you
that's.
The
word,
I'm
looking
for
the
registration
of
the
dogs
would
pay
for
a
part-time,
Park
Ranger.
That's
what
we're
we're
recommending,
because
registration.
L
L
These
were
you
know
some
of
the
recommendations,
because
the
community
is
very
tied
to
their
privilege,
dog
parks
and
off-leash
dog
parks,
and
but
they
don't
want
to
lose
them
and
probably,
and
and
we've
all
agreed
that
the
people
that
are
talking
to
us
are
probably
the
people
that
have
very
well
maintained
dogs,
it's
the
people
that
are
the
other
people
that
aren't
coming
to
the
table
that
are
causing
the
problems,
and
these
are
dogs
that
are
running
through
soccer
games.
These
are
dogs
that
are
running
through
other
events.
L
We've
heard
stories
that
the
dog
ran
into
the
pavilion
and
ate
the
birthday
cake
from
the
party
they're
not
being
reported
to
code
enforcement,
because
what
do
you
once
the
dog
is
in
the
birthday-cake?
You're
upset
you
pack
up
and
you
leave
and
you
don't
call
code
enforcement,
so
there's
really.
No
tracking
of
these.
L
These
are
just
incidences
that
we're
hearing
from
the
users
over
time
and
it's
built
up,
and
we
know
that
there
are
certain
places
where
we
have
more
conflicted
uses
so
from
all
the
people
from
all
the
sides,
because
we
did
feel
that
we
had
a
good
perspective
from
both
sides
of
you
know.
Would
morph
instant
dog
parks
help.
L
We
think
it
would
because
it
would
relieve
some
of
the
pressure
from
some
of
the
other
parks
could
potentially
a
licensing
program
that
so
that
people
will
get
some
training
along
with
how
to
use
the
parks
appropriately
be
beneficial,
and
could
that
then
subsidize
enforcement,
because,
right
now
there
isn't
a
lot
of
enforcement.
So
they
this
person
would
be
able
to
maybe
do
some
patrolling
going
around
and
catching
the
instances
where
dogs
are
running
into
the
soccer
games
and
that
sort
of
thing.
But.
K
That
was
my
question:
if
they're,
if
they're
not
going
to
enforcement,
isn't
hey,
don't
do
that
dude!
That's
a
ticket,
that's
enforcement
and,
if
you're
not
going
to
have
a
ranger
and
that's
what
I
thought
when
you
said
a
ranger
who
would
be
who
would
be
self
paying,
would
be
enforcing
something
and
then
generating
a
ticket
like
a
copper
parking
meters
in
Denver,
because
they
must
be
making
a
gazillion
dollars
off
my
son
alone
in
Denver
when
I
was
going
to
school
there.
K
But
if
we're,
but
if
you're
going
to
do
licensing
and
the
vast
majority
of
people
do
not
use
those
parks
who
have
dogs,
the
vast
majority
and
if
they're
going
to
feel
like
they're
subsidizing
that
I
think
you're
going
to
have
some
pushback.
But
if
you're
going
to
have
people
and
the
only
time
you're
really
going
to
see
him
is
not
in
somebody's
backyard.
It's
going
to
be
when
they're
at
a
park
or
one
of
these
things
and
you
don't
really
have
an
enforcement
where
somebody's
riding
a
citation
and
I
understand.
E
I
understand-
and
we
weren't
necessarily
advocating-
and
this
is
all
part
of
the
process
as
well-
that
every
dog
in
Englewood
is
licensed.
It's
the
license
to
use
the
dog
privilege
parks
yeah,
it's
it's
a
way
of
saying.
If
you're
here,
you've,
you've,
you've
and
in
some
places
they
make
them
prove
that
their
dog
is
under
voice
control
before
they
get
the
license.
You
know
so
there's
all
sorts
of
variations
of
this,
and
but
but
they
it
is
a
self-funded
kind
of
thing
through.
E
A
D
H
A
G
We
as
the
board
of
directors
for
the
Englewood
Historic,
Preservation
Society,
and
our
members
here
tonight-
are
very
grateful
for
the
opportunity
and
very
honored
for
the
opportunity
to
be
part
of
this
discussion
and
talking
to
you
about
the
importance
of
history,
historic
preservation
here
in
Englewood.
So
as
mr.
mayor,
he
recommended
let's
go
ahead
and
kind
of
go
around
and
introduce
everybody
from
the
board
of
directors
here
and-
and
we
also
have
a
special
guest
this
evening.
Also
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
with.
M
G
G
Start
things
off
tonight
we
have
a
PowerPoint
presentation
and
we
have
a
lot
of
exciting
things.
To
talk
about.
First
of
all,
history
in
Inglewood
is
really
unique.
There
are
very
few
other
cities
out
there
that
can
boast
the
amazing
accomplishments
that
a
lot
of
the
people
here
in
the
city
of
Inglewood
over
the
course
of
the
over
100
years
that
the
Inka
woods
been
around
have
accomplished.
G
These
are
all
things
that
are
very
unique
to
angle,
would
and
had
a
lot
to
do
with
our
identity,
but
there's
so
much
more
history
out
there
that
many
of
our
residents-
and
quite
possibly
many
of
you,
don't
even
know
about
the
accomplishments
that
people
that
have
lived
here
and
really
what
it
comes
down
to
is.
This
is
this
is
who
we
are.
This
is
our
identity
and
actually
there's
one
accomplishment.
That
is
really
amazing,
and
we
found
out
about
this
recently
and
Doug
may
have
talked
about
this,
but
there's
in
1945.
G
There
was
a
invention
that
occurred
here
in
Inglewood,
an
invention
and
patent
that
reached
the
I,
Triple
E
20th
century
milestones
and
electronic
engineering
and
has
a
American
Society
of
Mechanical
Engineers
landmark
this
invention
was
patented
invented
and
even
well,
it's
by
a
company
that
still
exists
here
in
Englewood.
This
is
the
history
that
we
need
to
keep
telling
our
generations.
This
is
the
history
that
we
need
to
capitalize
on
as
a
city
and
really
form
our
identity
around.
G
G
A
lot
of
people,
don't
know
that-
and
that's
that's
a
fascinating
bit
of
history
here,
but
tonight
our
presentation
will
go
ahead
and
start
off
with
our
mission
statement
here.
Our
mission
as
our
mission,
Linkwood
Historic,
Preservation
Society
endeavors,
to
identify
and
gather,
preserve
and
protect
our
his
city's
history
legacy
by
acquainting
and
educating
our
citizens,
their
children,
visitors
and
new
residents
to
our
city
about
our
roots
and
the
importance
of
history,
to
maintain
a
strong
foundation
and
building
for
our
future.
G
Will
be
predominantly
via
PowerPoint
here,
we'll
go
through
various
people
speaking
and
then
at
the
end,
we'll
offer
an
opportunity
for
questions
and
answers.
We
also
have
a
special
guest
with
us
tonight.
Lauren
from
Colorado
preservation
incorporated
she's
offered
her
time
tonight
to
help
us
with
our
presentation
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
benefits
of
historic
preservation.
G
So
really
the
main
thing
I
think
that
brought
us
to
the
Taylor
one
of
the
main
things.
There's
a
lot
of
stuff
we'll
be
talking
about
tonight.
But
then
really
probably
the
crucial
thing
right
now
is
the
Englewood
Comprehensive
Plan.
As
many
of
you
know,
the
draft
original
draft
of
the
Englewood
Comprehensive
Plan
included
information
in
there
and
and
included
portions
that
are
that
were
historically
oriented.
G
The
those
sections
were
actually
very
well
written
and
through
various
revisions.
I
guess
that
has
somehow
been
removed
from
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
we're
here
tonight
to
request
that
the
englidh
City
Council
recognize
the
important
of
importance
of
history
and
historic
preservation
and
put
that
back
in
the
comprehensive
plan
and
to
incorporate
language
in
the
comprehensive
plan
that
promotes
encourages
historic
preservation
and
education.
We've
taken
an
opportunity
also
and
we'll
talk
about
this
through
our
presentation-
to
provide
some
recommendations
on
some
of
the
wording
that
could
be
applied
to
the
comprehensive
plan.
G
So
the
wording
that
we've
recommended
really
falls
into
many
different
categories
within
the
plan.
Strategy,
strategy
and
vision,
shop
and
work
play
and
learn,
and
especially,
live
shop
and
work
is
I.
Think
a
unique
opportunity
for
the
city
of
Englewood
to
capitalize
on
areas
like
Littleton,
Boulevard
or
downtown
at
various
places,
downtown
they've
capitalized
on
the
historic
nature
of
that
area
and
could
be
a
business
encouragement
for
small
business
here
in
the
city
of
Englewood.
G
D
Good
evening
in
2005,
the
england
city
council
adopted
an
ordinance
in
the
municipal
code
of
16
611,
a
preservation
code
and
for
brevity
I'm
going
to
call
the
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission
hpc
that
I'll
keep
using
that
word.
Those
initials
I'm
gonna,
use
that
a
lot
when
the
preservation
code
was
adopted
in
2005
a
part
was
left
out.
D
D
It's
a
commission
that
designers
to
save
historic
buildings
and
places
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission,
would
designate
historic
areas
and
landmarks
for
the
educational,
cultural
and
benefit
of
England
citizens
with
the
consent
of
City
Council.
It
would
preserve
and
protect
buildings
and
structures
and
sites
and
areas
that
are
reminders
of
past
eras
and
events
and
people.
The
hpc
would
be
a
an
official
Commission
like
the
Planning
and
Zoning
and
Parks
and
Rec
and
yura
appointed
by
City
Council.
D
H
D
Know
much
about
how
an
HPC
worked,
and
it
was
a
good
first
step
just
to
kind
of
get
an
idea.
How
the
other
thing
worked.
A
number
of
concerns
were
expressed.
What
about
private
property
rights?
We
recommend
that
the
private
property
rights
be
fully
recognized
and
honored.
There
would
be
voluntary
participation
only.
How
would
it
affect
zoning?
The
hpc
could
recommend
historic
overlay
zoning
if
2/3
of
the
people
in
the
neighborhood
agreed
with
it.
D
D
D
D
The
creation
of
a
Historic
Preservation
Commission,
and
there
were
the
preservation
code-
could
have
some
impact
in
the
sense
that
they
would
talk
about
architectural
standards
and
and
having
your
structure
fit
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
So
these
are
kind
of
things
we
talked
about
that
night.
What
a
an
HPC
have
to
be
part
of
a
certified
local
government
in
the
answer.
That
would
be
no,
it
could
exist
independently.
I
visited
the
HP
C's
in
Cheyenne
and
Linkwood
and
I've
studied
those
in
Littleton
and
Brighton
and
buena
vista
and
Louisville
and
Monta
Vista.
D
G
D
D
C
So
Paul
and
I
will
be
sharing
this
one,
so
the
first
one
that
I'm
going
to
touch
with
is
generate
an
inventory
of
historic
and
architectural.
A
significant
structures
preserve
what
is
identify.
What
is
significant
to
the
city
of
Englewood,
not
only
us
as
the
Preservation
Society,
not
only
you
as
the
council,
but
to
the
public
through
the
city
of
Englewood
many
have.
We
have
lost
many
structures
already,
there's
an
urgency
to
save
those
that
do
remain.
C
The
next
part
defined
qualifications
and
criteria
for
recognition
recognized.
What
is
the
qualifications
in
criteria
have
been
established
in
various
areas:
local
localities,
statewide,
national
wide
nationwide
and
the
idea
that
that
could
continue.
We
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel
that
some
of
that
information
is
already
out.
There
definitely
would
save
time
as
far
as
establishing
what
we
would
qualify
for
recognition
and
defining
worthiness.
It
is
interesting
there
are
some
buildings.
C
We
already
know
that
may
not
be
worth
the
time
and
energy
and
finances
and
funding
or
resources
to
reestablish
it
to
its
grandeur
of
before
or
even
to
its
knowledge.
But
just
that
idea
of
being
aware
of
what
is
worthy.
We
would
look
at
its
age,
its
architecture,
its
historical
significance
and
maybe
an
individual
that
was
fairly
historically
significant
to
Englewood.
The
next
part
provide
local,
historic,
landmark,
registration
and
recognition
to
me
it's
publicize.
C
What
is
recognition
would
have
a
historic
markers,
maybe
for
posting
it
would
even
encourage
a
listing
may
be
on
the
Inglewood
City
website,
as
well
as
our
Inglewood
Historic
Preservation
Society
and
as
a
member
of
the
Arapaho
Acres
neighborhood.
That
idea
that
we're
also
concerned
about
some
of
these
recognitions.
That
idea
of
where
do
we
go
from
here
and
so
I
pass
it
on
to
Paul.
M
M
Ultimately,
when
council
has
established
it
and
and
named
members
to
it,
they
will
they
will
come
up
with
their
own
idea,
but
this
will
give
them
a
foundation
to
build
on.
So
we
feel
that
it's
important
to
develop
historic
and
architectural
standards
and
guidelines.
This
is
somewhat
different
from
the
qualifications
that
are
required
for
identifying
those
historic
structures
in
that
this
relates
more
to
what
it
takes
to
maintain
a
structure
as
historically
important.
M
M
Systems
in
guiding
design
and
ways
to
maintain
historic
significance
say
a
homeowner
or
even
a
business
owner
has
a
property.
That's
been
designated
as
historically
important.
The
Commission
could
serve
as
a
resource
for
helping
to
work
with
the
homeowner
or
property
owner
and
and
doing
whatever
upgrade
is
planned
and
making
sure
that
it
fits
within
the
as
dark
guidelines.
M
The
Commission
should
prepare
a
series
of
general
guidelines
that
are
available
to
any
property
owner
that
requests
it
and
in
fact
they
could
serve
as
a
review
board
in
a
kind
of
voluntary
situation
with
a
property
owner
says
well,
this
is
what
I'd
like
to
do.
Can
you
members
of
the
Commission
review
this
and
advise
me?
Okay
beyond
that,
then
continuing
to
the
documentation
of
Angela
woods
history?
M
This
has
been
done
once
it's
it's
a
book
available
here
at
the
library,
and
there
are
a
few
other
personally
owned
copies
around
there's
a
book
that
was
assembled
by
our
predecessor,
the
Englewood
Historical
Society
now
defunct,
and
we
have
chosen
a
distinctly
different
name.
This
book
was
assembled
essentially
by
copies
of
articles
in
newspapers,
magazines,
photographs
and
and
things
it's
a
very
good
resource.
I've
looked
at
it
a
number
of
times
myself
and
it
is
available
here
at
the
library
it's
not
to
be
checked
out
but
to
be
used
right
here
at
the
facilities.
M
We
would
we'd
like
to
make
this
available
to
any
citizen
that
is
interested
and
there
should
be
steps
available
to
make
accessibility
for
this
information
using
the
Internet
connections
and
make
sure
that
it's
available
to
and
to
the
public.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
our
preview
of
what
the
Commission
might
look
like.
Thank
you.
N
Okay,
my
part
is
to
advocate
history
program
that
encourage
community
involvement
in
education,
develop
Ingle,
educational
programs
in
the
Englewood
public
school
system,
focusing
on
the
historic
accomplishments
of
Englewood
and
the
surrounding
area.
Doug
cone
has
been
sending
history
series
to
the
Englewood
high
school
for
the
high
school
prior
pirate
tier
newspaper
with
the
idea
of
in
interesting
the
journalism
students
in
writing.
N
Englewood
history,
three
of
our
members
have
taken
early
Inglot
history
into
the
elementary
schools
and
introduced
it
to
the
second
graders,
our
goal
in
the
futures
to
continue
the
education,
older
Elementary's
children
and
instilled
a
love
and
interest
in
our
local
history.
Research
in
design,
a
historic
bicycle
and
or
walking
tour
and
I
I
passed
that
around
copies
of
the
Ingo
at
history,
sir,
given
to
you,
are
just
a
sample
that
our
society
had
come
up
with
shortly
after
we
begin
began
our
lectures.
N
There
are
more
historic
buildings
and
areas
to
showcase
and
historic
markers
and
some
with
memorials
such
as
the
nine
citizens
who
died
in
the
Alexander
film
fire.
We
would
like
to
do
a
memorial
to
them.
Coordinate
provide
an
archive,
historic
lecture
series
for
the
general
public.
We
have
been
providing
educational
history
lectures
monthly
to
the
general
public,
since
May
of
2012,
out
of
one
of
our
recent
programs
showcasing
the
famous
Englewood
Speedway
folks
held
a
successful
reunion
in
the
Elks
parking
lot
on
August
28th
2016,
approximately
1200
people
participated
throughout
that
day.
It
was
wonderful.
N
We
also
have
a
historic
website
and
we
send
out
a
monthly
newsletter
with
historic
articles
and
upcoming
events.
Our
future
goal
is
to
achieve
or
to
archive
family
history
involving
our
citizens.
We
need
to
establish
a
History
Museum.
History
tells
us
the
story
and
has
enormous
power
in
bringing
the
past
before
our
eyes
as
if
it
were
the
present
to
establish
a
History
Museum.
N
Our
legacy
is
in
is
the
inner
connection
across
time,
with
a
need
for
those
who
have
come
before
us
and
a
responsibility
to
those
who
come
after
a
history,
museum
encompasses
past
and
future
old
and
young
and
brings
a
caring
for
history.
Me
then
becomes
we
we,
the
Ingo,
Historic
Preservation
Society,
are
so
appreciative
with
all
that
is
happening
with
our
history.
N
N
Lindsey
Runyan
is
our
graphic
designer.
She
does
an
outstanding
job,
and
these
are
pictures
that
have
been
in
our
window
display
downstairs
in
the
library
and
if
you
could
just
all
take
a
peek
at
those
please.
We
are
very
excited
about
the
potential
of
maybe
of
working
with
the
Museum
of
outdoor
arts.
N
Okay
and
anyway,
we're
very
excited
with
the
possibility
of
working
with
the
museum
about
our
arts
and
cahoots
and
creating
a
quality
display
of
Inglot
history.
The
opportunity
to
work
together
was
a
historic
preservation
and
the
live
bird
commissioned
would
be
a
dream,
come
true
for
us
and
very
welcomed.
We
are
grateful
to
use
the
City
Council,
our
city
manager,
mr.
Keck,
and
Dorothy
Hargrove,
for
the
opportunity
you've
given
us.
Thank
you
so
much.
G
All
right,
we'll
move
on
to
the
suggestions
we
have
for
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
I
just
kind
of
want
to
summarize
here
that
you
know.
There's
there's
really
a
lot
of
opportunity
here
in
the
city
of
Englewood,
specifically
with
history,
but
then
how
what
we
do
with
that
history.
A
lot
of
residents
are
moving
into
this
city,
there's
a
lot
of
homes
that
are
being
replaced
with
new
structures
and
there's
a
lot
of
change
happening
here
in
the
city
of
Englewood
ins.
Very
quick.
G
This
is
kind
of
our
opportunity
to
hold
on
to
the
community
that
we
know
of
today
and
then
kind
of
go
forward.
I
understand
that
we
can't
save
every
house
I
understand
that
we
can't
save
every
neighborhood,
but
we
can.
We
can
kind
of
build
on
what
we've
had
in
the
past.
We
can
encourage
developers,
we
can
work
with
developers
and
encourage
them
to
use
certain
architectural
guidelines
when
developing
new
houses.
G
So
when
you
drive
down
the
street
there
isn't
that
dramatic
or
Drass
to
change
in
architecture
or
change
in
neighborhood,
we
could
encourage
developers
to
instead
of
tearing
down
structures
to
adaptively
reuse
them.
This
is
a
technique.
That's
been
used
in
other
communities
in
different
ways,
but
I
think
it
could
be
adopted
to
homes.
Also,
maybe
a
certain
percentage
of
the
front
facade
would
be
kept
the
same
and
that
addition
could
be
back.
You
know
built
on
the
back,
in
fact,
there's
a
developer
on
Lincoln.
That
did
that
so
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
here.
G
But
what
makes
this
discussion
so
timely
is
that
big
change
and
we
need
some
sort
of
plan
going
forward
for
what
the
city
of
Englewood
is
going
to
do
for
history
and
for
preserving
our
community.
So
on
to
the
community
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan
suggestions,
we
we
handed
out
and
actually
we
provided
to
the
city
all
this
information
in
a
document
we've
kind
of
been
following
this
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
have,
but.
G
G
Now,
under
the
live
section,
we
can
retain
historic
character
and
form
in
our
established
neighborhoods
incentivize
preservation
of
homes
identified
as
possessing
historical
and
architectural
II,
significant
character,
encourage
development
to
include
adaptive
construction
techniques
to
preserve
a
percentage
of
the
existing
structure
when
demolition
is
considered,
such
as
Street
facing
or
front
facades
instead
of
complete
demolition.
This
could
apply
to
both
commercial
and
residential
properties,
incorporate
a
local
historical,
cultural
and
aesthetic
references
and
new
housing
developments.
G
Assessor
read
Welling
units
and
that's
a
discussion-
that's
come
in
going
on
recently
and
that
actually
offers
a
unique
opportunity
for
historic
preservation,
because
that
allows
for
the
reuse
of
a
structure.
If
you
have
a
small
home
and
you
don't
have
enough
room
for
people
living
in
the
existing
structure
being
able
to
build
a
accessory
dwelling
unit
or
have
Asus
read
Welling
unit
on
the
same
structure
may
make
that
home
relevant
again
and
not
have
to
be
torn.
You
know
demolished
shop
and
work
use
history
to
promote
local
business
districts.
This
is
huge.
H
G
H
G
Something
that
we
need
to
really
focus
on
and
capitalize
on,
identify
and
encourage
preservation
of
historically
significant
commercial
buildings.
Incentivize
rest
restoration
of
historically
significant
commercial
buildings
under
play,
encourage
artistic
and
our
historical
elements,
and
new
developments
with
facade
and
fat
enhancements.
G
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
kind
of
summarize
here
with
a
quote
from
Doug.
History
is
a
lens
to
look
at
ourselves
to
find
solutions
to
problems,
to
understand
our
past
and
our
present
to
explore
new
places
and
ideas.
With
the
goal
of
improving
our
situation,
history
is
made
by
people
who
think
of
new
things
and
do
not
give
up
now.
G
H
Well,
hi
I'm
very
happy
to
be
here
tonight
and
to
build
upon
to
build
upon
everything
that
they
just
spoke
about
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
sort
of
the
basics.
What
is
preservation,
why
does
it
matter
and
how
it
can
benefit
Englewood
and
then,
in
addition,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
organization
and
how
we
can
help
with
that
as
well.
H
H
H
Oftentimes
a
lot
of
preservation
terms
are
thrown
around
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
go
over
the
differences
between
common
terms
that
are
used
preservation,
and
when
we're
talking
about
development,
it
is
maintaining
a
his
historic
form.
Integrity
materials,
often
such
as
like
a
house
museum
that
uses
preservation.
Rehabilitation,
is
improving
a
resource
to
make
it
compatible
for
a
new
use.
This
is
often
used
for
downtown
development,
converting
an
office
building
into
apartments
or
redeveloping
an
office
in
existing
commercial
structure.
H
Restoration
is
removing
or
adding
architectural
elements
to
bring
a
resource
back
to
a
certain
period.
House
museum
could
also
be
an
example
of
that
and
then
reconstruction
is
simply
rebuilding
a
resource
based
on
historic
documentation
and
the
board
touched
on
local
state
and
national
register
listing,
and
these
are
the
most
common
and
effective
ways
of
recognizing
a
site's
importance
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that.
That's
that's
mostly
what
they
do
is
they
recognize
that
it's
important
they
don't
National
Register
listing
in
and
of
itself
doesn't
provide
any
restrictions
on
a
property.
H
Local
and
state
registers
may
do
that,
but
that
is
dependent
on
each
city
and
they
also
increase
the
potential
for
funding
opportunities
for
the
designated
buildings
and
again
listing
in
the
National
Register.
The
National
Register
does
not
inherently
protect
a
site
from
demolition
or
restrict
what
you
can
do
with
the
property,
and
they
touched
on
some
of
creating
guidelines
for
what
should
and
shouldn't
be
done
with
a
historically
designated
building.
H
There
are
established
guidelines
that
you
could
certainly
build
upon,
and
these
are
the
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
and
they're
a
list
of
concepts
about
maintaining,
repairing
and
replacing
historic
materials,
as
well
as
designing
new
additions
or
alterations
to
historic
buildings,
and
there
are
separate
lists
for
each
of
those
four
items.
I
talked
about
earlier
preservation,
rehabilitation,
restoration
and
reconstruction
they're
the
basis
for
many
rehabilitation
projects
that
use
state
or
federal
funds.
H
Their
state
and
federal
entities
will
look
to
these
before
during
the
funding
process
and
they
often,
as
I
said,
help
decide
and
influence
local
design
review
processes,
financial
incentives.
There
are
numerous
financial
incentives
for
preservation.
One
of
these
is
grants
through
public
and
private
entities.
H
Nonprofits
such
as
the
National
Trust
for
Historic,
Preservation
or
private
foundations,
such
as
the
Gates
Foundation
Colorado,
is
very
unique
and
that
it
has
a
State
Historical
fund
through
which
is
operated
through
history
Colorado,
and
this
is
a
very
strong
program
that
offers
grants
for
many
purposes,
from
acquisition
of
a
historic
building,
to
planning
the
development
of
a
restoration
to
the
bricks
and
mortar
rehabilitation
itself,
and
actually
Colorado
preservation
is
partially
funded
through
grants
from
the
State
Historical
fund.
So
it
covers
a
lot
of
ground.
H
Another
financial
incentive
is
tax
credits,
historic
tax
credits
and
these
there
are
state
and
federal
historic
tax
credits.
The
Colorado
State
Tax
Credit
provides
20
to
30
percent,
return
on
all
eligible
work
for
a
site,
depending
on
use,
whether
it's
for
a
private
homeowner
or
income,
producing
property
and
federal
historic
tax
credits
provide
a
20%
return
on
all
eligible
work
for
income
generating
sites,
and
so
essentially,
if
a
developer
wants
to
come
in
and
Rehab
a
historic
building,
he
can
get
up
to
50
percent
of
his
eligible
costs.
Back
and
I
used
before
coming
here.
H
It
was
done
in
2011,
so
the
numbers
are
a
little
dated,
but
there
is
a
new
one
that
will
be
coming
out.
This
February
at
our
annual
saving
places
conference
with
updated
information
on
the
benefits
of
preservation,
economic
benefits.
The
preservation
projects
in
and
of
themselves
are
more
labor-intensive
and
they
require
specialized
skills.
That's
creating
more
construction
jobs.
There
are
32
new
jobs
for
every
1
million
dollar
spent
on
preservation
projects
in
a
community
in
Colorado.
This
created
34,000,
full-time
jobs
between
1981
and
2010,
and
preservation
projects
also
generated
tax
revenues.
H
H
The
community
itself
be
proud
of
their
heritage,
but
a
little
bit
about
numbers
heritage
tourists
spend
an
average
of
one
hundred
and
fourteen
dollars
more
than
just
general
tourists,
and
they
also
stay
longer
in
the
communities
where
they
visit,
and
there
are
also
grant
opportunities
available
to
support
heritage
tourism
in
communities
such
as
the
funding
of
a
museum
or
preserving
historic
sites.
Things
like
that
community
benefits
again.
This
is
something
that
people
when
they
have
you
when
they
recognize
the
unique
history
of
their
neighborhood
or
of
their
city
or
of
their
downtown.
H
It
helps
to
establish
a
sense
of
place
and
a
sense
of
belonging
in
that
community.
It
builds
healthy,
neighborhoods,
towns
and
cities,
and,
in
addition
to
that,
one
common
misnomer
with
preservation
is
that
it
decreases
property
values.
Preservation
does
not
decrease
property
values.
It
often
leads
to
appreciation
rates
that
are
either
consistent
with
or
higher
than
rates
in,
similar
non
designated
areas
and
there's
a
few
case
studies
in
the
pamphlet
about
that
from
Colorado
and
again
environmental
but
benefits.
As
I
said,
the
greenest
building
is
one
that
already
exists.
H
When
you
demolish
a
building,
you
are
destroying
the
embodied
energy
that
was
in
that
building
and
then
you're
spending
more
energy
on
demolition,
on
new
construction,
new
materials.
Everything
like
that
and
to
help
with
preservation.
There
are
numerous
partner
organizations
and
that's
sort
of
where
we
come
in.
We
help
to
connect
cities,
individuals,
organizations
with
partner
organizations
so
that
they
can
work
with
each
other,
learn
from
each
other.
H
There
are
several
national
and
state
nonprofits
that
support
historic
preservation.
There
are
public
organizations
such
as
certified
local
governments
and
private
organizations
as
well,
and
we
are
a
public
nonprofit,
Colorado
preservation,
Inc.
We
are
founded
in
1984
to
help
with
statewide
preservation
projects
we
use.
We
accomplish
this
through
a
three
prong
approach
that
focuses
on
outreach,
advocacy
and
technical
services,
and
these
are
done
through
five
signature
programs.
The
endangered
places
program,
which
I
am
a
part
of
our
annual
saving
places
conference
preservation
services
program,
which
helps
individuals
with
managed
grants,
apply
for
grants.
H
H
The
endangered
places
program
itself
was
created
in
1997
and
we
are
about
to
celebrate
our
20th
year,
and
this
is
a
way
to
save
historic
sites
that
are
under
immediate
that
are
threatened
with
immediate
loss
through
demolition.
Changing
economics
encroaching
development,
a
variety
of
things,
and
we
also
have
a
variety
of
sites
that
have
been
listed
and
we
will
list
in
the
future
buildings
entire
districts.
We
have
the
neon
signs
on
Colfax,
so
there
are
just
a
lot
of
resources
in
your
community
that
could
be
saved.
That
could
be
recognized
as
important.
H
We
have
39
sites
or
I'm
sorry
sites
and
all
over
the
state.
We
have
39
sites
that
have
been
listed
and
then
saved
69
sites
that
have
been
that
are
currently
in
progress
and
six
sites
that
have
been
lost
and
another
kind
of
part
of
the
endangered
police
program
are
weekend
workshops
that
are
a
way
for
volunteers,
local
volunteers,
to
come
together
to
work
on
a
project.
H
They
learn
about
historic
preservation,
they
learn
about
historic
building
techniques
and
they
can
have
a
greater
stake
in
their
community
through
these
and
some
of
success
stories
that
we've
had
through
this
program
that
could
easily
be
replicated
in
Englewood
and
Boulder.
We
had
the
Grand
View
Terrace
neighborhood
that
was
threatened
with
encroaching
development,
and
we
worked
with
University
of
Colorado
and
the
city
to
maintain
to
keep
11
of
these
historic
bungalows
in
their
locations
and
to
move
others
off-site
as
a
way
to
preserve
them.
H
Another
success
story
was
in
Pueblo.
There
were
two
historic
downtown
buildings
that
were
actually
being
threatened
with
demolition
and
the
developer
wanted
to
put
in
a
parking
lot.
But
we
worked
many
organizations
work
together
and
the
buildings
were
sold
to
the
Pueblo
housing
administration
and
turned
into
low
income
apartments
for
the
community
and
they've
had
full
occupancy
when
they
opened
in
2000
and
I'm.
A
H
A
A
K
Don't
think
four
and
a
half
minutes
is
enough
to
discuss
trying
to
organize
a
board.
So
maybe
I
would
think
that
we
would
want
to
have
some
discussion
and
come
back
on
some
of
the
plethora
of
issues
that
have
been
brought
up
and
some
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
concerns
with
some
of
the
boards
that
have
been
done
in
other
areas.
How
you
connect
it
with
the
comp
plan.
K
I
connect
it
with
designing,
who
would
decide
who
would
get
be
eligible
for
any
incentives
or
tax
credits
and
stuff,
whether
that
would
and
then
how
the
the
makeup
of
this
board
you
guys
have
suggested
five
and
with
a
couple
of
him
being
from
your
organization.
So
I
was
just
hoping
that
we
would
be
able
to
schedule
something
in
the
future
to
have
maybe
a
more
in-depth
conversation
about
all
of
the
stuff
that
they
brought
up,
because
it's
just
not
enough
time.
Sure.
G
A
A
I
like
the
idea
of
a
Historic,
Preservation,
Committee
I,
think
the
council
will
have
to
try
to
discuss
that
and
come
up
with.
You
know
what
what
we
think
sort
of
makes
sense.
I
love
the
idea
that
you're,
focusing
on
voluntary
efforts
of
the
private
property
owners
and
working
in
partnership
with
them,
rather
than
trying
to
you
know,
force
something
down
some
one
sort
of
throat
and
I.
A
Finally,
I'll
just
say
that
I
really
appreciate
all
of
your
efforts
personally
I
recognize
that
the
history
of
Englewood
is
really
uniquely
Englewood
and
makes
us
uniquely
desirable
place
to
be
so.
I
think
this
is
something
that
we
need
to
do.
A
better
job
of
communicating
and
celebrating
with
our
community
moving
forward.
So
I
again
appreciate
your
efforts.
There
Linda
thank.
I
You
for
coming
and
I
am
in
strong
support
of
seeing
us
do
a
historic
commission
of
some
sort,
I've
been
saying
it
for
a
while,
so
I'm
really
glad
that
you
agree
and
I
also
would
like
when
we
have
our
next
discussion
about
this.
Let's
take
a
look
at
the
EMC.
Sixteen
six,
eleven
and
tego
I
mean
this
was
I
could
never
understand
this
I've
had
this
in
a
file
for
a
while,
like
what
are
we?
What
have
we
been
doing
with
us?
There
was
a
time
and
I
think
Loretta.
I
You
were
probably
on
council
at
the
time
which
was
2005
right.
So
maybe
we
can
go
back
and
see
what
the
historic
records
are
for
this
being
developed
and
why
there
wasn't
a
commission
set
up.
It
would
be
helpful.
I
particularly
live
in
a
district
that
has
some
really
amazing
homes
and
arapaho
acres
is
an
obvious,
beautiful,
bright,
pink
elephant
to
the
room.
That
needs
some
care
and
it's
it's
and
care
in
terms
of
the
kind
of
desires
that
many
of
the
homeowners
want
to
preserve
it,
and
yet
some
of
the
property
rights
issues.
I
It's
one
thing
to
say:
oh
we'll
just
have
property
rights
be
central
here.
Well,
we
got
to
describe
what
that
is,
and
I
would
hope
that
you
would
be
a
little
bit
more
articulate
about
where
you
come
down
on
that
to
be
helpful,
I
mean
I.
Looked
at
your
mission
statement
and
I
see
that
it's
really
you're
really
about
educating
and
acquainting,
so
that
it's
no
more
than
that,
it's
not
advocating.
Is
it
or
is
it?
I
G
Not
everybody
agrees
with
and
that's
the
unique
opportunity
here
with
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission,
because
they
can
be
too
too
into
independent
portions.
You
know
we
reach
out
to
the
community
right
now
and
we
offer
education
to
the
community
of
the
historical
importance
in
the
history
of
the
city
of
Englewood,
whereas
the
Historic
Preservation
Commission.
We
can
work
closely
with
them
to
help
balance
that
design.