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B
You
agenda
number
six
is
recognition
of
scheduled
public
comment,
the
deadline
to
sign
up
to
speak
and
the
scheduled
public
comment
is
Wednesday
by
five
pm
prior
to
the
meeting
through
the
City
Clerk's
office,
and
only
those
who
meet
this
to
I
can
speak
in
this
section.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
the
book
to
address
City
Council.
There
is
an
expectation
that
the
presentation
will
be
conducted
in
a
respectful
manner.
Council
may
ask
questions
for
clarification,
but
there
will
not
be
any
dialogue.
Please
limit
your
presentation
to
five
minutes.
B
Written
materials
for
presentation
council
may
be
submitted
to
the
city
clerk
at
my
left.
As
a
speaker
approaches
the
podium
and
a
USB
port
is
available
for
public
presentation.
Just
add
one
comment:
at
the
end
of
the
seventh
agenda
of
the
recognition
of
unscheduled,
we
will
have
one
council
member
responding
to
the
public,
particularly
in
finding
a
council
request
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
it's
more
requested
tonight.
F
Good
evening
CA
dickerson
28
35,
south
pennsylvania,
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
is
comprised
of
private,
unelected,
volunteer
citizens
with
limited
responsibilities
and
little
authority.
The
committee
has
been
charged
with
various
misdeeds
that
have
no
foundation
truth
or
fact
much
less
logic.
F
We
respect
our
liaisons
and
have
had
many
citizens
speak
before
us,
even
though
the
public
forum
we
host
for
citizens
to
express
their
concerns
with
code
enforcement
activities
and
enforcement
has
been
overwhelmingly
critical
of
code
enforcement.
We
have
helped
them,
have
a
positive
interaction
with
us
and
code
enforcement
and
help
them
achieve
resolution
of
their
issues.
The
articles
and
posting
of
codes
has
encouraged
many
citizens
to
address
issues
in
a
positive
manner.
F
The
pause,
or,
as
you
are
calling
it
now,
a
hiatus,
a
forced
hiatus,
is
ill-conceived
and
chill
chilling
to
functioning
of
any
board
and
committee
and
will
serve
no
purpose
or
alleviate
any
problem,
because
there
is
no
problem.
The
stated
issues
which
have
no
basis,
in
fact
logic
or
truth,
will
not
be
served
or
resolved
at
all,
and
certainly
not
by
a
forced
hiatus.
There
are
a
lot
of
contradictions
in
code
and
even
the
police
and
code
enforcement
and
the
city
attorney
admit.
F
There
are
problems
and
enforcement
and
a
great
disconnect
and
confusion
between
various
codes
which
are
overly
broad
or
undefined
language,
and
what
is
criminal
and
what
is
civil
and
feedback
from
citizens
and
police
and
code
enforcement
have
noted
that
police
and
our
code
enforcement
won't
ticket
because
they
claim
the
tickets
won't
be
prosecuted
by
the
city
attorneys
responsible.
The
city
attorney
is
also
noted.
F
Serious
problems
with
the
enforcement
and
a
nuisance
provisions
of
title
15
and
a
year
ago
asked
the
Advisory
Committee
not
to
deal
with
this
until
she's
had
a
chance
to
go
over
it.
What
has
stated,
as
issues
are
actually
council
issues
not
see
acts?
The
Charter
only
prohibits
council
from
interfering
staff,
but
there
is
no
punishment
or
consequences
and
ciick
has
not
in
any
way
shape
or
form
interfered
with
or
directed
staff.
Even
if
the
Charter
applies
to
unelected,
volunteer
citizens
making
recommendation
recommendations
to
the
city
manager,
if
done
at
all,
is
the
process.
F
It
is
not
a
violation.
Setting
priorities
is
not
a
violation,
if
done
at
all.
It
is
merely
noting
the
codes
that
citizens
and
code
enforcement
have
determined
are
the
most
important
to
be
enforced.
Keeping
order
in
our
meetings
is
necessary
and
set
by
Bob's
rules
and
council
policy,
but
you
really
honor
the
hard
work
we
have
done.
F
Supporting
citizens
and
code
enforcement
in
achieving
code,
enforcement's
goals
of
unbiased,
fair
and
voluntary
compliance
and
not
interfere
with
ciick
and
use
our
hard
work
and
knowledge
to
help
you
resolve
the
muni
code
problems
and
address
citizens
concerns
with
code
enforcement.
Siak
committee
members
are
uniquely
qualified
being
so
close
to
the
asset
problems
and
have
the
knowledge
and
foresight
to
help
council
resolve
the
disconnects
and
contradictions
in
muni
code.
Reconsider
this
forced
hiatus
at
least
gives
jack
a
fair
and
real
hearing.
F
It
is
not
just
unprecedented,
but
wholly
illogical
and
without
foundation,
or
fact
much
less
truth
to
force
a
hiatus
on
any
committee.
Consider
that
you
will
be
signaling
to
citizens
that
you
are
continuing
to
ignore
their
concerns.
After
all,
code
enforcement,
whether
proactive
reactive,
are
not
being
done
at
all
and
not
being
done
in
a
fair
and
unbiased
manner.
Is
the
number
one
complaint
of
citizens
a
forced
hiatus
on
siak,
and
you
will
prove
you
don't
care
about
citizens
concerns
and
further
discourage
citizen
involvement.
C
You
mayor,
mrs.
dickerson,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
tonight
and
sharing
this
information
with
us.
Are
you
aware
that
per
chapter
xxxii
neither
the
City
Council
its
members
or
its
committees?
It
doesn't
say
it's
fell
one
minute.
Please
shall
either
publicly
or
privately
attempt
the
dictation
direction
or
interference
with
any
officer
or
employee.
Such
an
interference
is
misconduct
of
office.
This
is
in
the
packet
that
was
before
last
week.
In
a
remember.
F
I
am
aware
of
it
and
the
title
of
it
says:
acts
press
specifically
forbidden
to
council
and
where
it
says
deemed
misconduct,
there
are
no
consequences,
and
that
says,
council
members
who
attempt
dictation
will
be
deemed
misconduct,
it
doesn't
say
who
deems
it
and
there
are
no
consequences
for
this.
It
doesn't,
it
doesn't
say,
committees,
it
says
T,
and
it
quite
clearly
says
indicates
that
it's
a
committee
made
up
of
council
members
councilmember.
B
C
I
have
a
question
I
think
we'll
take
up
the
response
to
that
later,
mrs.
Dickerson.
Would
you
kindly
provide
the
the
counsel
via
the
city
clerk,
a
report
citing
these
code
enforcement
claims
are
indeed
the
number
one
complainant
among
our
36,000
citizens.
You
made
that
statement.
I
would
love
to
see
the
the
numbers,
so
we
can
move
forward
well,.
F
B
Right,
thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
person
up
is
mr.
JJ,
Ma,
Giada
and
Inglewood
residents
who
will
address
council
topic
is
not
given,
is
not
here
all
right
move
on
to
mr.
John
Dolan.
He
would
actually
someone
who
owns
a
home
in
Inglewood
will
adjust
city
council
regarding
sewage,
backup
on
1300
East,
Bates
Parkway.
G
Was
a
resident
of
the
city
angle
which
he
owned,
a
house
on
1320
speights
Parkway?
She
recently
passed
away
and
I'm.
The
personal
representative
of
first
aid
I
live
in
Houston
Texas,
the
address
8315
hunters,
Drive,
Houston,
Texas;
seven,
seven,
zero,
two
four!
Thank
you
mayor
and
city
council
for
allowing
me
some
time
to
speak
tonight.
I
wanted
to
address
this
ongoing
problem
with
the
city,
sanitary
sewer
in
the
1300
block
of
East
Bates
Parkway,
my
mother's
owned,
the
home
since
1972
in
1964.
G
My
mother
was
widowed
and
left
to
raise
three
children
on
her
own.
She
returned
to
school
at
University
of
Denver
and
got
her
master's
in
special
education,
with
special
education
teacher
at
the
city
of
Littleton,
till
she
retired
in
the
1980s.
She
saved
enough
money
in
1972
to
buy
a
permanent
residence
for
herself
and
for
her
children
to
raise
us
at
1310
a
space
parkway
in
the
city
of
Englewood
and
the
home
was
her
pride
and
joy.
G
She
was
a
proud
resident
of
the
city
of
Englewood
and
I
loved
the
services
at
the
city
of
from
1972
to
2015.
We
never
had
any
issues
with
any
of
the
city
services
in
2015
I
received
a
phone
call
from
my
sister
who
lives
at
the
residence
who
was
helping
take
care
of
my
mother
because
she
was
getting
older
at
the
city
that
the
sewage
was
backing
into
the
basement.
G
After
calling
plumbers
in
the
city,
it
was
discovered
that
the
city,
sanitary
sewer,
had
bat
had
clogged
in
the
alleyway,
and
the
sewage
from
the
neighbors
homes
was
coming
into
the
basement
of
the
house,
the
city
of
Englewood
contracted
with
Balfour.
At
the
time
who
came
out
and
remediated
the
site.
G
They
did
flood
cuts
on
the
wall,
they
sanitized
the
basement.
They
replace
tile
and
damage
I,
flew
up
from
east
and
a
personal
expense
to
remove
all
the
family
possessions
from
the
basement
and
then,
at
a
later
date,
my
brother
and
his
wife
came
from
New
York
took
time
off
from
their
work.
I
and,
along
with
my
wife,
came
from
Houston
and
took
off
time
Morrow
work
to
remove
to
go
through
all
the
items
of
personal
items,
we'd
removed
from
the
home.
We
removed
three
home
depot
banksters.
G
We
had
to
dispose
of
personal
possessions,
memories,
and
things
were
handed
for
my
grandparents
that
were
damaged
in
the
flood
and
had
fecal
and
excrement,
and
we
couldn't
no
longer
keep
them
so
we
disposed
of
those
at
the
time.
The
city
said
that
the
approach
that
what
they
were
going
to
take
was
to
monitor
the
city
sewer
system
in
that
area.
More
do
more,
roto
routing
do
more
scoping
of
it.
We
hoped
the
problem
was
solved
in
2017,
there
was
a
smaller
backup.
G
Fortunately
it
didn't
require
remediation,
but
we
advised
that
the
city's
program
was
still
in
place
and
maybe
the
problem
with
the
sewer
was
the
line
that
we
had
from
the
house
to
the
city
system
so
for
at
expense
of
$9,000.
The
family
replaced
the
sewer
system
from
the
house
to
the
city
sewer,
and
we
felt
maybe
now
the
problem
solved.
Agent
92,
my
mother
passed
away
Thanksgiving
week
of
2018.
G
After
coming
home
from
her
viewing
on
November
27th,
we
expected
to
have
keep
memories
or
share
memories
of
my
mother
and
to
try
to
make
what
we
could
at
a
Thanksgiving
weekend
when
we
came
home
to
the
residence
to
find
sewage
backing
up
in
the
base.
My
brother
and
I
and
my
nephew
used
vacuum
of
wet/dry
vac
and
we
figure
we
took
about
to
over
200
gallons
of
fecal
water
and
other
items
removed
from
the
basement.
It's
raw
sewage.
G
Basically,
our
wives
are,
and
it's
to
Home
Depot,
to
get
to
get
pumps,
mops
and
other
things
to
help
sanitize
basement
after
three
hours
of
work,
the
city
responded,
and
there
was
a
blockage
in
the
city
sewer
behind
the
house
for
the
third
time
as
I
mentioned,
Balfour
was
responded
and
they
did
very
little
work.
They
got
about.
Maybe
a
square
foot
of
drywall
off
the
walls.
I
came
back
out
and
looked
at
the
residence
and
there
was
still
fecal
matter
on
the
walls
and
had
to
call
the
city
they
sent
bail
for
back
up.
G
They
came
out
and
they
removed
more
of
the
walls
and
did
some
other
work.
I.
Do
have
issues
with
bail
for
because
they
damaged
a
sewage
vent
pipe
there
and
the
the
shower
in
the
basement.
The
pan
was
filled
with
feces
and
water
got
underneath
it
and
they
won't
remove
that
pan
and
I.
Don't
know
why
Aaron
rod,
aaron
ross
on
and
Dorothy
Hargrove
and
very
helpful
mayor
I
know
you
called
me
after
this
happened
and
I
know
you're
out
of
the
country.
G
It's
been
a
great
expense
to
the
family
and
I
know
it's
great
expense
to
the
city.
To
have
to
continue
to
do
this.
This
is
something
that
a
family
shouldn't
have
to
go
to
and
mow
through
and
most
don't
face
the
residents
still
occupied,
and
this
is
a
health
and
safety
issue
for
the
elephants.
My
sister
and
nephew
live
there.
We
haven't
asked
anything
of
the
city
in
return,
y'all.
B
G
I
wanted
to
ask
if
the
city
is
that
I,
don't
think
the
inspection
program
is
working
and
they
I
believe,
there's
fundamentally
something
changed
in
that
sewer
system
since
2015
I'd
like
to
have
an
engineering
or
cold.I
reviews
of
that
system,
so
we
don't
have
to
go
through
this
again.
Thank
you
great.
B
H
I
G
C
G
G
C
J
G
The
basement
still
hasn't
been
remediated
I
mean
it's
been
cleaned,
but
Belvoir
still
has
work
to
do.
They
disappeared
for
two
months.
I
had
to
call
this
be
to
get
them
to
show
up
again
the
quality
of
work
they
did
compared
to
what
they
did
in
2015
has
been
very
subpar,
I.
Think
photographs
of
the
feces
on
the
wall
that
they
said
was
sanitized
as.
G
B
G
Own
personal
I
think
that
there's
something
fundamentally
changed
in
that
sewer
system
from
when
we
lived
in
the
house
bought
the
house
in
1972,
2015
I
think
something
happened
in
2015
I.
Think
there's
something
that's
repeatedly
calling
a
backup
and
the
city's
inspections
increase
inspections
and
roto-rooter
hasn't
solved.
I
believe
there
needs
to
be
a
either
engineering
or
cold
eyes
review
of
that
section
and
see
if
it
needs
to
be
replaced
or
somehow
repaired
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
through
this
again.
That's
what
asked
the
city
to
do
all.
B
I
Jerry
Walker
4180
South
Pearl,
Street,
Englewood,
howdy,
Council
how's
things
going,
I,
listen
to
you
guys
in
study
session
last
week,
talking
about
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
and
it
dawned
on
me
that
most
of
you
know
absolutely
nothing
about
what
we
do.
But
that
really
doesn't
surprise
me.
I
What
we
do
is
we.
We
actually
go
out
to
people's
houses.
People
in
this
committee
actually
go
out
to
people's
houses
to
help
solve
code
problems
and-
and
that
makes
me
worried,
because,
if
you're
going
to
give
us
12
weeks
of
vacation,
I
contacted
my
financial
adviser
and
he
told
me
that
we
could
get
through
that
12
weeks
without
the
amount
of
pay
that
the
city
gives
me
for
going
out
to
these
people's
houses.
I
But
I'm
worried
about
the
vacuum.
That's
gonna
occur,
you're,
saying:
there's
a
vacuum.
Well,
if
you
take
code-enforcement
out
of
a
play
and
there's
nobody
below
us,
then
it's
gonna,
be
the
people
above
us
who
are
gonna,
have
to
go
out
to
these
houses
and
solve
these
code
problems
to
go
out
and
sit
in
the
kitchen
at
night
and
talk
to
these
people
and
then
you're
gonna
have
to
fight
tooth
and
nail
with
Dave
Lewis,
because
he's
gonna
have
seven
excuses.
Why
it
can't
be
done.
I
The
trash
cans
can
move
because
everybody's
handicapped,
the
truck,
can't
go
down
the
alley
cause
it's
not
wide
enough.
There's
a
dumpster
back
there,
but
don't
let
that
bother
you
that
truck
must
be
much
smaller
than
the
garbage
truck.
So
if
I
get
a
call
once
we
get
on
our
vacation
or
12
a
week,
vacation
I'm
just
going
to
give
them
the
telephone
numbers
for
City
Council,
and
these
people
can
call
you
and
you
can
do
the
job
that
you
tell
us
we're
not
doing.
Okay,
so
I
don't
see
it
happening.
I
But
but
you
know,
I
have
been
contacted
by
some
citizens
and
hearing
now
you
know,
would
any
in
Arapahoe
County
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
think
it's
as
gone
as
high
as
the
state
government
about
oversight
about.
Perhaps
maybe
a
civilian
committee
just
to
check
on
what's
going
on
here
in
this
city
and
I
mean
seriously
check
everything
that's
going
on
as
far
as
following
the
code
and
following
everything
else,
and
by
the
way
from
your
discussion
this
afternoon,
code
enforcement
says
that
they
put
a
900
door
tags
during
the
last
snow.
I
K
Good
evening
council
thicky,
hoffman,
46:30
south
bangkok
tonight,
I'm
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
something
that
happened
to
me
on
Friday
I
went
to
join,
to
go
to
an
eighth
meeting
and
I
was
told
that
there
was
no
evening.
I
was
told
that
twice
when,
in
fact,
there
was
that
I
did
finally
get
to
go.
Sit
in
on
I
was
also
told
that
day
that
the
drain
of
the
Acoma
bana
galley
had
been
cleaned.
It
happened.
I
had
a
9
minute
conversation
with
Tom
Brennan.
Today
it
wasn't
very
pretty
I
told
him.
K
I
had
pictures
that
the
vac
truck
did
not
take
anything
out.
So
my
point
is:
is
I
really
don't
like
to
have
to
call
people
out
on
these
things,
but
I'm
finding
that
staff
isn't
always
enough?
Unfortunately,
I'd
also
like
to
thank
Dave
cuesta
and
Laura
Barrentine
for
responding
to
my
email
to
come
meet
with
Calibri.
K
They
responded
to
me
saying
they
couldn't
attend
mayor
pro-tem
did
attend
and
the
rest
of
you
I
never
got
a
response
from
so,
unfortunately,
I
really
kind
of
isn't
acceptable.
I
might
also
was
directed
to
inquire
as
to
why
the
mayor
I'm,
didn't
have
to
go
through
metal
detectors
and
I
was
told
to
ask
the
city
attorney
by
Chief
Collins
as
to
why
that's
okay
and
why
the
rest
of
us
have
to
I
also
had
emailed
you
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
asking
for
Elaine
Holt's
to
receive
a
public
apology.
K
I
still
have
not
heard
that
I'm
still
embarrassed
by
myself
that
I
didn't
say
anything
that
night
that
that
happened.
So
the
communication
that
I
gave
you
is
from
Eric
Keck
I'm.
Regarding
the
July
24th
Stormers
I
highlighted
a
lot
of
inconsistencies.
I
do
have
a
couple
extra.
If
anybody
here
wants
to
look
at
him,
the
estimated
rainfall
or
a
rainfall
that
day
estimated
was
1.4
inches
it's
in
the
back
of
this
packet
by
the
National
Weather
Service,
not
two
inches.
K
There's
a
lot
of
inconsistencies
in
this
report
and
I
can
tell
you
everything
about
every
drain.
Probably
in
the
city,
the
the
city
does
not
have
a
plan.
A
plan
should
be.
You
should
be
asking
the
police
this
plan.
Somebody
is
in
charge
of
emergency
operations,
and
what
worries
me
right
now
is
that
we
are
getting
to
the
monsoon
season.
K
Apparently
we
have
no
intergovernmental
agreements,
that's
a
huge
problem
and
that's
why
I
believe
that
we
never
had
a
response
after
the
flood.
I
never
saw
anybody
from
Harappa,
Howe,
County
I
never
saw
anybody
from
Red.
Cross
never
saw
anybody
from
a
church.
Nobody,
there
was
nobody
until
Rita
came
through
man.
K
There's
also
states
in
here
that
the
city's
Emergency
Operations
and
continued
continuty
of
operation
plans
needs
to
be
refreshed.
There
is
no
plan
seriously
refreshed,
also
says
in
here
that
that,
once
they
determined
what
was
broken
from
the
flood
from
the
storm,
and
it
was
not
on
the
people
side
of
the
disaster.
The
people
side
is
the
human
side,
not
the
stuff,
because
then
the
reality
is
when
we
all
die,
we
don't
need
the
stuff.
We
need
our
lives
and
at
and
when
I
know,
I
die.
K
All
the
stuff
in
the
world
isn't
going
to
matter
so
I'm
going
to
continue
to
come
here
and
to
tell
you
that
this
is
not
okay.
Code
enforcement
in
the
public
and
private
alleys
needs
to
be
increased
as
many
conditions
that
led
to
the
clogged
drains
were
due
to
the
fact
that
homeowners
have
not
been
diligent
with
keeping
the
alleys
clean
and
clear.
That
is
that's
an
insult.
So
there's
plenty
of
things
in
here.
I
hope
you
take
the
time,
read
it
because
I,
you
know
felt
like
this
really
needs
to
be
addressed.
Thank
you.
K
E
K
Side
I
think
it
needs
to
happen.
We
have
people
that
are
having
lost.
You
know,
I
know
one
couple
that
loss:
they
both
lost
their
jobs
because
of
the
flood
they're
having
marital
issues,
people
aren't
receiving
counseling
I
think
that
people
need
to
be
heard.
I
really
do
you
know
it
was
a
traumatic
event,
and
somebody
needs
to
address
that
in
order
for
people
to
move
on.
B
C
L
K
L
And
my
second
question
is
you're
correct
on
the
website.
It
is
listed
that
the
police
department
knows
specifically
the
fire
marshal
is
in
charge,
as
currently
listed
as
our
emergency
manager
with
our
may
think
inadequate
plan.
But
we
do
have
a
plan
listed
on
the
website
and
there
was
one
at
the
time
of
this
incident.
Have
you
received
the
report
from
the
fire
marshal
from
the
police
department
on
their
assessment?
No.
K
B
M
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council
cone
3051
South
Marion
Street
I'm,
going
to
talk
about
the
IDA
family
I
mentioned
them
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
a
Japanese
immigrant
family
attack
on
Pearl
Harbor
in
1941.
There
were
very
hostile
feelings
towards
people
of
Japanese
descent,
the
politicians
most
Americans,
the
newspapers,
the
radio
magazines
like
time
in
life
were
all
anti-japanese
and
all
wanted
something
done.
This
month
is
a
77th
anniversary
and
one
of
the
most
evil
actions
ever
taken
by
the
government
of
this
country.
M
President
Franklin
Roosevelt's
executive
order,
9066
On,
February,
19th,
1942
Roosevelt
signed
the
executive,
the
forced
relocation
of
tens
of
thousands
of
men
and
women
and
children
of
Japanese
descent
from
the
West
Coast
and
other
areas
near
military
installations,
depriving
them
of
their
rights
as
citizens
of
this
country
most
were
citizens.
Those
not
were
legal
residents.
He
seems
to
have
forgotten
his
words
from
ten
years
earlier.
The
only
thing
we
have
to
fear
is
fear
itself.
M
They
discovered.
Sometimes
you
have
to
fear
the
government
who
Roosevelt's
order
affected
a
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
people
of
Japanese
descent,
two-thirds
of
whom
were
native
born.
There
were
also
some
Italian
and
German
Americans,
rounded
heaven.
There
was
almost
no
resistance
to
this
order.
In
Colorado
and
Englewood
there
was
resistance.
Governor
Ralph
Carr,
a
Republican
was
one
of
the
resistors.
He
invited
those
being
disciplines
to
come
to
Colorado
the
item
family
moved
to
England
in
1931
the
family
had
emigrated
from
Japan
earlier
he
had
become
citizens,
there
were
eight
children,
four
boys
and
four
girls.
M
Harry
Ida
was
the
oldest.
They
were
from
Poisson
dr.
John,
Simon's
farm,
just
west
of
the
Platte
River
on
Oxford.
They
lived
in
1400,
West,
Oxford
or
the
new
apartments
and
the
upper
Colorado
building.
Are
they
so
produce
at
a
stand
on
Oxford
and
Santa?
Fe
things
were
going
well
until
December
7th
the
items
were
at
the
Gothic,
theater
and
God
mean
looks
and
trash-talking
as
they
were
leaving.
Then
they
heard
the
news
about
a
proper
bur
in.
M
Of
42,
the
federal
agents
began
rounding
up
the
Japanese
and
sending
them
to
internment
camps
when
the
feds
came
take
away
the
Ida
family,
the
most
extraordinary
thing
happened:
dr.
Simon,
the
neighbors,
the
business
people
along
the
way
and
the
local
politicians
went
the
throw
agents
at
the
train
station
and
they
told
him
that
the
IDA
family
was
part
of
Englewood
family
and
they
told
the
agents
they
were
not
going
to
take
them
away.
M
Our
forefathers
firmly
told
the
feds
to
get
back
on
the
train.
The
agents
got
back
on
the
train
and
the
height
of
family
stayed
our
forefathers
in
governor
car.
They
used
to
cooperate
with
evil.
Governor
spoke
out
stridently
against
the
permanent
of
japanese-americans
as
inhumane
and
unconstitutional.
In
1942,
the
first
Japanese
Americans
arrived
at
the
Omachi
internment
camp
in
Colorado.
They
were.
M
With
violence
by
the
locals,
Carr
confronted
the
mob
and
he
told
them
if
you
arm
them.
You
must
harm
me.
First,
the
people
listened
Carr,
merely
remembered
what
others
had
forgotten,
that
Japanese
Americans
are
Americans
and
should
be
treated
as
such
is
opposition
to
Roosevelt's
order
cost
him
his
political
future
Carr
and
Simon,
and
the
people
of
England
were
the
quintessential
Americans
embodying
the
spirit
of
individualism
and
a
stent
that
gave
birth
to
this
country.
Car
stood
by
the
Japanese
American
community
in
opposition
to
fear
and
the
angry
public.
M
M
Harry
items
two
younger
brothers
joined
the
military
and
fought
in
the
war.
They
both
went
on
to
start
their
own
produce
businesses
and
eventually
moved
to
Long
Maude
I
urge
you
all
who
are
here
tonight
to
be
like
dr.
Simon
and
governor
Carter,
and
the
people
of
England
the
lights
in
the
darkness
of
bigotry.
Hatred,
don't
follow
the
mob
choose
to
stand
up
against
the
evil,
in
whatever
form
it
takes
and
defend
the
rule
of
law.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
You
mr.
Koopman,
no
one
has
any
questions.
Thank
you.
Our
next
idea
is
a
recognition
of
unscheduled
public
comment
and
I'm,
not
going
to
repeat
everything.
I
said
the
last
time
other
than
that
we
expect
people
to
be
respectful
in
addressing
council
and
you'll
have
three
minutes
during
this
time.
Just
the
time
when
you
sign
up
out
in
the
foyer
for
this
and
council
members
may
ask
questions
so.
The
first
person
up
tonight
is
Miss
Judy
Dunlap
here
to
speak,
about
ceac.
A
Judy
dunlop
29
35
south
Acoma
I'm
here
tonight
to
discuss
a
few
items
that
I
believe
the
citizens
of
angle
would
can
benefit
from.
Through
my
observations
and
involvement,
I
attended
the
study
session
on
Monday
January
28
2019,
to
hear
more
about
a
proposed
pause
being
considered
to
be
placed
on
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
or
ciock
as
it
is
called
I
was
seated
in
the
room
and
I
was
straining
my
ears
to
hear
the
dialogue.
A
There
were
many
problems
with
the
audio
and
there
was
an
apparent
inability
for
some
council
members
to
maneuver
the
microphone
effectively
and
didn't
seem
to
have
a
clue
that
no
one
in
the
room
could
hear
it,
let
alone
anyone
trying
to
access
it.
On
audio
later
I
spoke
to
a
few
people
last
week
that
attempted
to
access
the
audio
and
experience
the
same
problems
that
I
incurred.
I
would
ask
that
both
situations
be
investigated
and
if
more
training
is
needed
on
how
to
use
a
microphone,
then
I
would
hope
that
that
is
accomplished.
A
I
felt
it
was
important
for
me
to
address
this
issue
about
the
paws
on
the
siak
group.
So
I
wrote
a
letter
to
the
council
on
Friday
February,
1
2019
to
date,
I
have
only
received
two
responses
and,
more
importantly,
as
was
often
discussed
at
the
study
Shasta
session
mayor
Olsen
made
it
sound
like
citizen
communication
would
be
taken
seriously
and
sponsors
could
be
affected.
I
received
a
phone
call
from
my
district,
one
council,
member
Sierra,
from
an
email
that
I
sent
him
prepared
to
this
letter.
I
appreciated
the
response,
but
not
the
results.
A
I'm
particularly
disappointed
the
decision
by
my
district,
one
representative,
to
propose
a
pause.
The
regular
meeting
schedules
of
the
see
a
group
I
am
equally
discouraged
by
the
other
council
members
that
support
this
idea.
That
seemed
to
appear
like
a
magic
trick
out
of
thin
air
Council
members
see
as
a
junior
liaison,
fails
to
have
a
unified
voice
with
his
own
counterpart
senior
liaison
on
the
ciock
Mayor
Pro
Tem
Rita
Russell
I
heard
nothing
tangible
at
the
study
session.
That
would
precipitate
this
type
of
action.
A
Berelson
said
she
listened
to
past
audio
of
the
siak
meetings
and
yet
vacillated
on
her
assessment,
while
going
back
and
forth
on
a
pause
to
no
pause
to
a
reset
to
a
pause
now
I
see
on
the
agenda
tonight,
it
is
called
a
hiatus.
I
was
spoken
at
past
siak
meetings
and
one
recently
I
did
not
come
with
a
time
speech
and
so
I
gave
full
latitude
to
the
chair
to
cut
me
off.
If
I
went
long,
he
graciously
did
and
then
I
answered
questions
from
the
group.
A
There
is
an
important
situation
being
used
as
a
precedent
regarding
public
response
at
a
staff
meeting.
It
has
become
both
emotional
and
political.
In
one
of
my
commission
meetings,
the
citizen
forums
left
off
of
the
agenda,
which
had
been
an
item.
However,
a
citizen
showed
up
that
could
have
provided
relevant
input,
but
was
it
ever
called
on
and
listened
attentively
to
the
meeting
citizens
are
invited
to
attend
and
discuss
relative
relevant
issues,
but
no
one
has
the
right
to
disrupt
the
meeting
or
ultimately
be
disrespected
of
any
board
or
committee.
Miss
Dunlap.
A
B
O
Good
evening
my
name
is
Colleen
Moore
for
175
South
Ikoma
Street
in
Englewood,
Colorado
and
I
would
like
to
echo
what
miss
Dunn
said
on
the
audio
quality
of
your
meetings.
That
was
very
very
hard
to
hear
to
to
go
back
and
unwind
what's
happened,
and
why
this
hiatus
is
even
being
considered.
I
think
clear.
Expectations
are
important
and
the
city
owes
its
citizens
clear
direction
on
our
community's
rules
and,
what's
required
of
us
to
be
citizens
and
to
hold
up
our
the
deal.
O
The
Municipal
Code
is
the
main
way
the
city
communicates
its
expectations
to
its
citizens
and,
objectively
Inglewood
could
do
a
much
better
job
with
the
muni
Code,
poorly
written
codes
looked
at.
Poor
policy
or
policy
leads
to
the
failure
of
government
to
address
the
basic
needs
of
the
citizenry.
It
leads
to
a
lack
of
enforcement,
of
the
laws
that
are
already
on
the
books
and
it
will
eventually
decay
both
the
physical
city
and
the
relationships
of
the
people
who
live
there.
O
Many
people
in
our
community
are
frustrated
with
the
lack
of
response
from
the
code
enforcement
department
within
the
Inglewood
Police
Department
and
I
was
one
of
them
and
I
got
involved
with
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
to
help
fix
it.
Now,
we're
being
told
that
the
committee
is
being
put
on
hiatus
and
I,
don't
fully
understand
why
that
is
so,
I
did
go
back.
O
I
did
look
into
the
reasons
that
were
cited
in
your
study
sessions
and
council
meetings,
but
this
issue
is
a
multi-faceted
problem
and,
as
the
public
comments
show
tonight,
it
indicates
that
the
problem
is
across
the
city
departments.
It's
not
just
code
enforcement.
It's
it's
parks.
It's
the
sewer,
sewer
line,
soare
treatment,
folks,
this
D
doesn't
know.
O
What's
going
on,
we
can't
get
information
or
answers
from
any
of
staff,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
better
define
what
council
wants
from
the
city
commissions
and
boards,
but
not
at
the
detriment
of
the
code
enforcement
Advisory
Committee
and
there
also
needs
to
be
a
reckoning
of
sort
with.
The
Englewood
staff
has
layers
upon
layers
of
conflicting
direction.
Poorly
written
laws
and
a
general
level
of
apathy
has
infected
our
city
government
and
I
encourage
you
to
address
that.
O
B
N
Evening
my
name
is
pulse
Kaczynski,
I
resided
4260,
Southie,
ladee
Street
in
Inglewood,
honorable
mayor
Angeles,
City,
Council
members,
city
attorney,
city
clerk,
acting
city
manager
and
dignitaries.
As
most
of
you
know,
I
have
been
waiting
for
four
years
for
a
favorable
decision
regarding
the
proposal
to
allow
accessory
dwelling
units
to
be
built
on
certain
residential
properties
in
Englewood,
including
my
own.
N
The
decision
was
finally
made
and
on
the
surface
it
seems
it's
favorable
to
me,
except
that
we
have
our
home
and
a
family
trust
which
is
technically
a
limited
liability
company
is
my
contention
that
neither
the
members
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission,
who
wrote
the
words
nor
the
members
of
City
Council,
who
voted
on
those
words
intended
to
have
it,
apply
to
properties
being
held
in
a
family
trust.
Yet
the
city
attorney
has
interpreted
the
wording
to
do
just
that.
It
would
be
a
credit
to
City
Council
to
correct
the
wording.
N
So
it
will
say
what
counsel
intended
to
say
where
the
wording
reads:
corporations
and
for-profit
business
partnerships.
It
should
read
for-profit
corporations
and
for-profit
business
partnerships.
That
might
be
all
this
needed
to
be
more
specific.
His
sentence
could
be
added
to
state
clearly
this
restrict
and
does
not
apply
to
properties
being
held
in
a
family
trust.
In
fact,
a
portion
of
the
wording
and
City
Attorney's
interpretation
states
quote
business
partnerships
that
own
real
property,
otherwise
eligible
an
Adu
that
can
provide
verification
that
they
are
not-for-profit,
including
filing
title
limitations
are
permitted
to
construct
an
Adu.
N
B
P
Good
evening,
there's
a
council,
my
name
is
Stephen
Ward
I
reside
at
46,
20
South
Delaware
Street
I'm
here
tonight
to
address
a
couple
of
things,
one
of
which
is
some
statements
that
were
made
right
here
on
the
record
by
other
citizens
within
the
last
two
months.
Regarding
the
city,
the
primary
reason
why
I
came
is
because
two
people
alleged
that
the
city
had
lost
over
eight
million
dollars
in
its
investment
portfolio.
There
is
no
factual
basis
whatsoever,
as
the
finance
director
has
dated
for
that
allegation.
P
Those
types
of
allegations
are
incredibly
destructive
to
the
public.
Indeed,
our
investments,
as
you
saw
in
the
council
request,
are
held
mostly
in
bonds.
We
make
somewhere
around
2%
Antley
on
the
investment
portfolio.
There
is
something
in
that
investment
portfolio
on
the
monthly
statement
that
says
unrealized
losses.
That
is
the
loss
that
the
city
would
take
if
we
sold
the
bonds
today,
if
we
liquidated
the
entire
50
plus
million
dollar
portfolio,
we're
not
doing
that,
we
have
worse
things
to
worry
about
than
a
$700,000
loss.
P
If
we
are
ever
forced
to
do
that,
so
I'm
here
tonight
to
stick
up
for
the
competent
financial
management
staff
that
our
city,
when
allegations
like
this
are
made.
Often
what
happens
is
counsel
request
comes
up
and
it's
put
in
and
then
it's
returned
in
writing
to
Council
and
published
on
the
website.
That's
good
that
I
found
the
information,
but
I
think
it's
inadequate.
I
really
would
like
to
hear
some
of
the
allegations
that
are
being
leveled
on
a
regular
basis
against
staff
addressed
from
the
Dyess
in
a
follow
up.
P
The
other
allegation
that
was
leveled
against
staff
about
two
months
ago
in
December,
was
in
regards
to
an
emergency
call
and
it's
a
delicate
subject,
but
the
facts
that
were
presented
from
the
podium
do
not
match
the
facts
of
the
case,
and
there
was
a
report
issued
to
things
particularly
stuck
with
me.
The
first
is
that
it
was
alleged
that
it
was
a
20-minute
response
time
that
is
not
correct
and
the
city
has
records
to
establish
that
that
is
not
correct,
actual
response
time,
six
minutes.
P
The
second
allegation
that
was
addressed
is
something
that
was
aided
by
one
of
the
people
who
spoke
quote:
I,
don't
think
they
care
about
England
I,
don't
work
for
the
city
of
Englewood
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
city
of
Englewood
I.
Don't
work
for
the
city
of
Denver
I've,
no
affiliation
with
either
organization
other
than
living
here,
but
I've
had
that
Denver
Fire
Department,
my
house
to
say
that
they
don't
care
about
the
city
of
Englewood.
It's
horrible,
horrible,
I,
don't
agree.
B
Q
My
name
is
Scott.
My
address
is
31
South
Washington
Street
I'm
speaking
for
mr.
Dale
Harris,
who
was
unable
to
make
it
here
tonight
so
I'm
reading
a
statement
on
his
behalf,
please.
My
argument
here
is
to
respectfully
request
the
City
Council
not
engage
or
not
enforce
a
pause
or
a
recess
on
the
code
enforcement
Advisory
Committee
a
few
years
ago.
I
believe
it
was
the
end
of
2015
or
perhaps
the
beginning
of
2:16.
Q
There
was
a
public
forum
meeting
for
the
liquor
and
marijuana
board
for
public
discussion
about
a
proposed
marijuana
shop
in
the
5000
block
of
South
federal.
That
meeting
became
rather
raucous.
The
neighborhood
citizens
against
the
store
were
at
least
seven
times
more
than
those
in
favor.
It
was
allowed,
and
some
aggressive
seemed
bottom
line
is
that
the
liquor
board
rubber-stamped
approval
for
that
store?
That
committee
clearly
was
not
public
friendly
and
was
pretty
blatant
about.
Q
City
council
at
the
time
did
nothing
to
that
committee
and
I
believe
was
not
even
an
issue
for
them
that
the
neighborhood
was
not
listened
to.
Nor
properly
served
today,
I
discussed
a
different
committee.
The
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
I'm
a
member-
and
this
is
Dale
Harris
I
am
a
member
of
that
committee.
I
believe
our
committee
has
found
a
way
for
the
public
to
bring
forward
their
concerns
that
code
enforcement
is
not
answering
their
concerns.
We
don't
get
rooms
full
of
irate
citizens.
Q
We
in
the
public
forum,
part
of
our
monthly
meeting,
do
listen
to
those
who
want
help
me
with
a
code
enforcement
issue.
Our
Chairman's
solution
is
pretty
simple,
make
sure
the
citizen
understands
written
code
document
this
happened
and
who
they
talked
to
and
worked
with
in
code
enforcement,
make
a
video
or
photos
of
the
suspicious
a
suspected
violation,
use
social
media
or
a
city
council
meeting
to
politely
make
your
case.
These
steps
seemed
solve
the
huge
majority
of
the
miscues
and
communication
problems
because
of
one
citizen's
issue
with
our
committee.
Q
What
I
consider
personal
issue
with
our
committee
and
with
one
or
more
of
its
members,
City
Council,
is
now
taking
about
stopping
this
committees
meetings
a
month,
maybe
more
I,
don't
believe
City
Council
can
correct
any
perceived
problems
in
a
month.
Two
months
or
even
six
months,
I
have
watched
this
council
for
years
and
nothing
can
be
done
quickly
or
or
effectively
done.
I
asked
you
to
let
this
committee
continue
the
fantastic
work.
It's
been
doing,
work
on
challenges
to
its
character,
if
you
must,
but
do
it
methodically
and
correctly,
not
knee-jerk
fashion.
B
B
R
N
R
This
time,
and
primarily
to
address
fundamental
understandings
and
using
this
as
an
opportunity
to
bring
about
some
of
those
understanding
or
the
committee
in
my
four-times
there
I
have
seen
relations
with
staff
degrade
and
become
more
and
more
acrimonious
I've
also
seen
growing
frustration
from
committee
on
a
number
of
different
answers
regarding
policies
for
getting
these
priorities
and
setting
just
how
we
go
about
adjusting
the
code.
I've
heard
is
not
the
easiest
code
to
work
with,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
to
address,
but
just
getting
on
to
counsels
agenda
and
aligning
our
priorities.
R
I
R
I
think
a
pause
can
be
a
very
beneficial
thing.
It
gives
the
space
and
the
breath
to
actually
discuss
and
to
bring
these
things
about
rather
than
trying
to
fix
the
engine
on
the
plane
while
it
flies,
but
regardless
I
think
whether
or
not
the
committee
does
want
a
hiatus.
These
things
should
be
addressed
on
how
we
go
about
aligning
our
priorities:
better,
aligning
work
with
staff
both
of
the
code
enforcement
officers,
but
also
with
the
attorney
and
making
sure
that
the
codes
that
were
working
on
ultimately
get
a
vote
in
front
of
Council.
R
B
R
R
So
this
is
I
think
an
opportunity
for
council
to
discuss
amongst
them
to
maybe
correct,
or
at
least
address
some
of
these
fundamental
issues
with
a
committee,
as
the
committee
itself
to
address
these
things,
we
have
we've
tried,
we've
talked
about
it.
These
are
you
know,
made
aware
or
well
known
amongst
the
committee
and
I
think
for
us
to
do.
It
would
be
to
continue
to
work
in
a
vacuum
that
doesn't
have
an
appropriate
outlet
for
decision
or
for
progress.
So
I
think
this
is
something
that
the
council
should
be
bringing
up
you've.
L
Had
several
members
of
your
committee
come
up,
who
are
in
disagreement
with
you
and
would
prefer
not
to
have
a
pause?
Do
you
think
that
the
council
should
include
they
may
be
in
some
conversation
if
there
is
a
positive
that
we
convert
some
of
the
issues
since
there
seems
to
be
some
disagreement
amongst
the
committee
that
there
is
a
problem.
R
L
S
Evening
Janice
brown,
3808
Southie
line,
my
husband
and
I
visited
nature
is
obscure
of
exhibit
January
23rd
and
we
were
thoroughly
entertained.
This
interactive
exhibit
is
well
worth
an
hour
of
your
time.
There
is
so
much
to
see
that
I'm
sure
I
miss
some
things
we
may
want
to
go
again.
I
believe
Inglewood
should
be
very
proud
of
their
alliance
with
the
Museum
of
outdoor
arts.
Thank
you
thank.
B
You
very
much
I
see.
No
thank
you
for
coming
right.
This
is
a
portion
of
our
time
where
councilmember
is
going
to
respond
and
councilman
request
has
been
drafted
to
do
that
tonight
in
council.
If
you
think
of
other
things
and
save
those
until
your
council
time
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
to
add
in
so
councilmember
cuesta,
would
you
please
respond?
You.
J
J
Mr.
Marsh
mr.
Unger
all
were
here
to
address
CAC
and
I
may
have
looked
over
a
couple
folks
there
as
well
I,
believe
our
discussion
started
last
week
during
the
study
session.
It
seemed
to
spill
over
into
this
this
week
and
it
will
continue
tonight.
I
think
that
that's
the
second
to
the
last
item,
our
agenda
this
evening
and
then
I
think
is
mr.
singer
alluded
to
the
conversations
going
to
continue,
regardless
of
how
this
hiatus
work
out
tonight
or
where
the
vote
falls.
J
J
Mr.
Dahle,
that
is
a
that's
a
hard
story
that
you
were
kept
for
us
here
and
I.
Certainly
sympathize
with
you,
and
that
is
that
would
be
difficult
for
any
homeowner,
let
alone
one
that
lives
in
another
state.
So
that
is
very
challenging.
I
appreciate
the
very
very
long
time
that
your
your
mother
was
here
in
England
as
a
residents
and
that
now
you
have
family
members
living
there
at
this
time.
This
would
get
to
one
of
my
council
requests.
J
He
mentioned
that
it
sits
at
the
1310
East
base
residence,
but
I
wonder
if
there's
other
houses
impacted
in
that
neighborhood
and
what
my
thought
is.
If
we
have
bail
for
going
out
to
this
particular
residence
to
do
work,
are
they
going
to
other
residences?
What
is
the
cost
that
is
accumulating
over
time
for
us
to
keep
sending
a
third
party
company
out
there
to
make
these
repairs?
What
is
the
is
there?
J
A
long-term
problem
that
we're
able
to
resolve
it
sounds
like
2015,
was
the
trigger
point
and
seems
to
be
consistently
occurring
since
then
so
I'm,
hoping
that
as
a
council
request
for
myself
that
we
can
get
some
more
information
there,
Jan
Brown.
Thank
you
for
the
comments
on
MOA
a
visit
of
myself
and
agreed
that
it
was
it
was.
It
was
great
I
enjoyed
it
and
mr.
Kosinski
I
think
it
is
worth
reviewing
again
what
you
identified,
and
that
was
definitely
one
of
the
sticking
points
and
we
had
our
conversations
of
ad
use.
I.
J
Think
the
intention
of
the
keeping
LLC's
at
bay
and
I
think
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
is
that
we
don't
want
a
lot
of
speculators
or
renters
potentially
using
that
as
a
dual
rental,
with
the
both
front
and
back
property.
That
certainly
was
not
intended
to
exclude
folks
that
have
a
family
trust
there,
where
there
would
still
be
that
resident
and
one
of
the
two
dwellings
on
the
property.
So
that's
something
I'm
sure
the
council
would
be
happy
to
revisit
and
Doe
Cohn
I
always
appreciate.
J
B
Thank
you
very
much
all
right
next
on
our
agenda
is
item
number
888,
and
this
is
a
recognition
of
newly
appointed
boards
and
commission
members
and
so
I
will
Mayor
Pro
Tem
has
agreed
to
come
up
with
me
and
we're
going
to
hand
out
certificates
of
appointment
and
pins
for
everyone
who's
here
tonight.
We
know
that
are
there
several
who
could
not
make
it
tonight,
but
we
will
be
here
with
these
they'll
get
sent
to
them
in
some
way
or
another.
So
mayor
pro-tem,
would
you
like
to
join
me
in
the
front.
B
B
B
B
B
B
Thank
you,
so
these
boards
and
commissions
are
critical
to
our
functioning
as
a
city
and
with
council
getting
advisement
and
I
appreciate
those
taking
the
time
both
now
and
will
in
the
future,
with
those
that
are
newly
appointed.
We
appreciate
all
the
time
that
you
give
and
we're
still
working
on
how
to
make
these
appointments
be
the
best
possible.
As
you
could
hear
tonight,
we
have
some
things
going
on
that
we're
trying
to
make
sure
we
get
optimal
experiences
for
everyone.
So
appreciate
again
your
willingness
to
serve
the
city
of
Inglewood.
B
B
E
U
B
Right
so
we'll
start
with
9c
one
Mayor
Pro
Tem.
So
this
is
staff
recommend
City
Council,
approved
by
resolution
they're
just
of
swimming
pool
chemicals
for
the
recreation
center
Pirates
Cove
recreation
program
facility,
improviser,
Brad
Anderson-
is
your
hopefully
answered
questions.
Mayor
Pro
Tem
kicks
it
off.
Okay,.
E
E
E
E
V
B
B
You
next,
thank
you.
Next
item
is
9c,
for
this
is
staff
recommend
City
Council,
approved
by
motion
a
contract
between
the
city
of
Englewood
and
MV
and
transportation
corporation
for
the
2019
management,
operation
and
maintenance
of
the
wood
trolley.
The
contract
amount
is
three
hundred
ninety
nine
thousand
one
hundred
and
twenty
dollars.
V
E
Okay
and
I
think
the
questions
are
pretty
simple,
because
I
I
think
they're
they
are
answered
in
here,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
Are
we
anticipating
that
we
will
be
reimbursed
eighty
percent
of
the
contract
and
fuel
costs
in
2019?
Absolutely
so
really,
then
it's
not.
We
have
to
pay
the
three
hundred.
Ninety
nine
thousand
one
hundred
ninety
two
but
RTD
will
reimburse
us
eighty
percent
right
and,
and
so
that
will
leave
us
a
cost
of
approximately
seventy
eight
thousand
dollars
correct.
Okay,.
L
V
L
So
it
was
just
kind
of
the
way
that
it
was
put
together
with
that
wording
made
it
a
little
seemed
a
little
vague
like
we
had
whatever
the
contract
was,
we
were
going
to
pay
eighty
percent,
but
we
knew
we
had
that
in
the
budget
for
the
amount
of
the
contract.
We
were
anticipating.
This
amount
correct.
V
V
V
H
B
B
Item
10
is
public
hearings.
We
have
none
agenda,
item,
11
ordinances
resolutions
and
motions;
11
see
the
resolution
and
motions.
First,
one
is
application
for
a
Vale
grant
the
pelisses
v-a-l-e
the
police
department
is
recommending
that
city
council
approved
a
resolution
authorizing
the
police
department
to
apply
for
and
accept
funding
up
to
the
amount
of
22,000
$110
from
the
victim
assistant
and
law
enforcement
grant.
Here
to
present
his
deputy
police
chief
Sam
Watson
sorry
I'll
jealous
we'd,
like
to
stretch
our
legs.
Y
Good
evening
Sam
Watson
deputy
police
chief
for
the
police
department,
we
are
recommending.
The
city
council
approve
a
resolution
authorizing
the
police
department
to
apply
for
funding
up
to
the
amount
of
twenty-two
thousand
one
hundred
and
ten
dollars
from
the
victim
assistance
in
law
enforcement.
Grant
this
Vale
grant
finance
is
approximately
forty
percent
of
the
salary
for
the
Victim
Witness
advocate
position,
which
is
a
science.
The
England
Municipal
Court,
the
Victim
Witness
advocate,
provides
services
for
victims
of
domestic
violence.
Y
A
E
Z
City
staff
recommends
council
approved
by
ocean
the
open,
gov
and
workiva
software
proposal
through
the
shi
international
colorado
state
contract,
workiva,
subcontractor
of
open
cove,
and
you
have
familiarity
with
open
gov.
We
use
this
system
to
create
transparency
of
our
budget
and
our
expenditures.
Right
now,
this
software
was
selected
as
an
optimal
source
vendor.
We
did
research
on
somewhat
similar
products
that
are
offered
by
other
organizations.
Z
The
costs
were
much
higher
or
they
did
not
provide
the
capability
to
link
to
our
current
financial
system
Tyler
new
world.
The
two
systems
that
we
looked
at
were
products
of
Adobe,
PDF
element
and
quark
and
quark
specifically
was
a
publishing
platform
that
was
over
four
times
the
cost
of
what's
included
in
this.
We
not
go
out
bid
because
there
was
a
state
contract
through
Shi,
so
a
little
bit
more
about
the
product.
Z
It's
a
cloud-based
publication
software
to
be
used
in
creating
the
budget
book
that
we
currently
do,
Matt
really
and
also
our
comprehensive
annual
financial
publication
or
Khafre
documents.
This
is
a
three
year
contract
with
a
total
cost
of
eighty.
One
thousand
I
should
correct
that
it's
a
one-year
contract
with
the
option
to
renew
for
two
years
it.
The
cost,
is
thirty,
seven
thousand
dollars
in
the
first
year
there
is
an
implementation
fee
and
then
it's
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
ongoing
for
both
the
budget
and
the
kafir'.
Z
As
you
know,
the
budget
book
and
the
kafir'
documents
are
very
important
resources
for
the
financial
transparency
they
detailed,
the
city's
financial
and
non-financial
information.
These
documents
are
used
internally
by
city
staff
and
then
also
council
and
also
sternly
by
the
citizens.
Both
are
very
labor,
intensive
and
particularly
the
budget
book.
If
changes
are
made
throughout
the
budgeting
process
oftentimes,
it
requires
a
change
to
be
made
in
three
four
five
Word
or
Excel
documents
which
can
lead
to
errors.
Z
Unfortunately,
and
with
the
volumes
of
changes
that
we
make
throughout
the
budget
season,
it's
it's
difficult
and
time-consuming.
We
have
observed
the
product.
We
had
a
demo
done.
In
fact,
we
and
many
other
municipalities
to
join
us
who
also
use
Word
documents
and
Excel
files
to
make
up
their
budget
books.
Z
They
also
expressed
an
interest
in
this
particular
product,
not
only
again
because
of
the
time
factor
involved,
putting
together
the
book,
but
also
the
accuracy
factor
and
I
will
say
you
know
looking
at
the
product
where
I
think
the
most
benefit
will
come
to
us
beyond.
The
accuracy
is
also
that
we
will
be
able
to
spend
more
time
with
analysis
and
answering
questions
specifically
related
to
the
budget,
which
is
truly
how
we
should
be
spending
our
time.
Quite
frankly,
again,
the
city
is
selecting
this
from
the
state's
vendor
list.
Z
T
Z
E
Z
B
H
You
I
think
the
solution
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
especially
for
the
the
items
that
you
mentioned.
The
accuracy
and
time
savings
for
your
department.
I
think
that
that's
great
in
2019
the
cost
is
37,000,
and
then
you
said
in
20
and
2021
you
would
have
the
options
to
add.
Is
that
additional
support
and
help
putting
the
books
together?
Oh
no.
Z
H
E
Z
Z
B
Z
You
very
much
if
you
recall,
we
joined
you
last
week,
I
believe
well,
actually,
no
I.
Take
that
back
what
day
was
it?
I
have
to
look
at
my
schedule:
January
22nd,
sorry,
the
weeks
just
go
by
so
quickly.
We
came
to
you
with
a
fee
and
read
schedule
during
a
study
session,
but
tonight
we're
here
to
ask
you
the
resolution
to
approve
the
fee
and
rate
schedule.
Z
I
did
note
in
the
memo
that
I
provided
to
you
that,
based
on
your
feedback
during
the
study
session,
there
was
one
modification
to
the
new
and
changes
in
fees
to
revert
back
to
the
utility
service
request
fee
for
red
tags
back
to
the
five
dollars
and
also
the
door
tag
versus
a
mailing
that
would
cost
$15
I
believe
that
was
the
one
recommendation
through
the
study
session.
That
was
made.
So
you
would
it
be
approving
the
new
fee
and
rate
with
that
change
in
it.
So
I
wanted
to
point
that
out.
Thank.
L
You
could
you
point
that
out,
or
that
is
what
I'm
looking
at
that
I
think
is
confusing.
Is
that
the
penalty
delinquent
bills,
late
fees
inside
cities,
a
one-time
charge
of
the
bill
for
5%
of
not
five
dollars,
so
I
kind
of
I'm
not
sure
we're
seeing
that
and
that
it's
going
to
half
percent?
So
it's
not
a
percentage
currently
the
bill
and
that
I'm
reading
the
wrong
line.
I.
L
Z
Z
Z
What
what
would
Jenny
is
saying
so
I
apologize
for
the
confusion?
The
item
that
I
was
talking
about
is
not
specific
to
this
item.
This
is
indeed
a
new
fee.
What
I
was
referring
to
changing
is
the
five-dollar
fee,
with
the
request
tree
and
the
red
tags.
That
is
currently
an
existing
rate,
so
it's
not
included
in
the
first
two
pages
of
this
document.
It's
included
where
it
belonged
in
the
back
because
it
was
an
existing
fee
already.
Could
you.
L
There's
now
a
five
dollar
charge
and
it's
being
stated
that
it's
a
five
dollar
charge
for
the
door
hanging
where,
as
before,
what
was
on
that
document
was
that
there
is
a
late
charge
of
five
dollars,
which
would
mean
that
this
utility
charge,
which
I
don't
think
came
to
us
before
for
a
percentage,
also
would
end
up
being
an
increase
to
the
late
fee.
So
there
was
no
charge
before
lifted
for
five
dollars
for
hanging
it.
L
Z
Okay,
I
do
not
have
a
copy
of
what
was
presented
on
January
22nd
I'd,
like
an
opportunity
to
look
that
up,
because
I
do
not
believe
we
added
a
new
one.
I
think
they
both
included
on
the
previous
one
I
can't
say
for
certain
I'd
like
an
opportunity
to
look
to
see,
but
if
there's
still
a
question
as
to
whether
or
not
that
exists
or
should
exist,
that's
a
whole
other
matter.
Hey.
L
If
I
go
with
what
you
said
at
the
beginning,
that
there
wasn't
the
intention
to
go
ahead
and
remain
keep
the
current
late
fee
as
it
is
currently,
then
it's
five
dollars
and
not
five
percent
of
the
bill
that
I
would
agree.
It
would
agree
with
the
other.
Would
an
increase
that
I
think
is
inappropriate.
L
J
There
might
some
folks
that
just
are
not
paying
their
bill
and
have
the
resources
to
do
it.
But
I
still
think
that
there's
a
fair
amount
of
folks
out
there
that
are
unable
to
pay
their
bill
because
they
don't
have
the
resources
and
they're
putting
together
with
money.
They
can
to
do
so
and
I
hate
putting
another
2.5
percent
on
those
folks.
I
do
wonder
to
what
do
we
really
collect
over
the
course
of
a
year
on
extra
2.5%
for
the
city?
What's
our
gain?
J
First,
the
burden
we
might
put
on
some
families
that
are
really
just
trying
to
get
their
bills
paid
and
you
know
get
their
utilities
caught
up.
That
one
gives
me
a
lot
of
apprehension
and
probably
enough
that
I
won't
support
this
increase
with
with
that
increase
on
the
delinquent
bill.
Thank
You,
Marilyn.
E
Z
L
Would
like
to
have
some
more
information
on
the
one
tone
charge.
What
councilmember
cuesta
said
is
that
this
document
says
that
there's
currently
a
rate
of
2.4%
'im
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
aware
of
that,
and
the
way
the
document
reads
is
that
the
proposed
for
your
rate,
increase
column
number.
The
second
from
the
right
proposed
for
your
rate,
increase
effective
on
1
1
2019
would
be
a
2.5
I
realized,
whether
that's
the
difference
of
it
or
whether
we're
initiating
it.
L
L
Assessment
being
done
on
the
amount
of
the
bill
at
this
time,
only
the
five
dollars.
That's
what
the
tag
says.
Is
you
have
a
late
charge
added
to
your
bill
of
five
dollars
about
five
percent
of
0.5?
So
if
we
can't
we'd
have
to
have
a
little
bit
more
information
on
this
I'm,
not
comfortable
passing
that.
I
Z
Jenny
kindly
pulled
up
the
information
that
was
shared
at
the
study
session
on
January
22nd.
The
one-time
charge
was
included.
The
current
rate
is
2.5%
of
outstanding
bill
balance
and
at
that
time
utilities
was
proposing
the
one-time
charge
for
bill
5%
of
outstanding
bill
balance,
so
that
is
not
new
from
the
22nd
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
bringing
forth
the
fee
rate
schedule
in
such
detail
and
we're
planning
to
post.
It
is
so
that
we
can
eliminate
any
question.
Z
You
know
regarding
that,
the
fees
that
we're
asking
so
as
we
become
aware
of
them-
they're,
not
you
know,
listed-
we
put
them
on
here,
so
I
can't
speak
to
whether
or
not
this
was
on
a
schedule
that
the
public
has
seen.
I
have
researched
that,
but
it
was
on
the
22nd
document.
So
that
is
not
a
change.
L
L
The
question:
okay
great
at
the
Water
and
Sewer
board
meeting
the
redtag
piece
of
it
was
brought
up.
I,
don't
remember
anything
about
the
five
percent
I'm,
not
questioning
that
the
document.
What
I'm
questioning
is
that
I?
Don't
think
that
it's
been
implemented
so
I
need
to
know
whether
they
have
even
been
doing
that
previously.
If
they
have
not
been
enforcing
it,
then
it
would
be
a
much
bigger
increase
in
the
shock
to
the
public.
L
L
L
H
L
B
J
You
bet
in
speak
to
that.
Certainly,
I
would
like
to
see
it
at
least
a
2.5
for
now
I
think
there's
a
secondary
component
also,
which
is
the
torn
off
fee
right
now
it
stands
at
$15.
We're
increasing
it.
20
bucks
would
push
it
at
35.
This
goes
back
to
you
know
those
folks
that
think
being
an
individual,
a
family
that
are
that
really
scraping
together
their
resources.
If
it's
gone
so
far
that
you've
had
your
power
or
what
your
excuse
me.
J
Your
water
shut
off,
20
bucks
matters
and
so
I
hate
to
see
20
bucks
I,
don't
know
why
we
would
do
that
to
those
folks,
I,
don't
know
what
that
really
does
to
this.
What
that
gains
for
the
city
as
much
as
it
might
impact
a
particular
individual
or
family.
So
that's
another
component
of
this
that
in
a
I
didn't
realize
this
was
gonna
advance
as
quickly
I
was
going
to
bring
that
up
as
the
conversation
continued,
but
that
was
another
component
that
I
would
like
to
see
removed.
J
C
B
C
B
E
U
Now
you,
the
main
motion
to
approve
the
document
as
presented,
you
have
an
amending
motion
to
withdraw
that
specified
section
regarding
an
additional
2.5
percent.
So
by
your
own
bob's
rules.
You
cannot
have
more
than
one
amending
motion
at
a
time,
so
you
have
to
act
on
this
amending
motion.
Then
mr.
cuesta
stated
he
wanted
to
do
a
secondary
amendment.
The
main
motion
would
be
approved,
subject
to
any
amendments
that
you
have
approved.
C
T
L
Two
comments:
I
appreciate
what
council
member
question
is
acknowledging
that
when
people
have
these
kind
of
issues
going
on
we're
trying
to
keep
people
in
our
community-
and
maybe
we
can
visit
this
again
in
the
future,
if
we
get
a
little
bit
more
information
on
whether
it's
really
beneficial
to
the
city
or
not
or
detrimental,
in
increasing
this,
but
I
do
want
a
clarification.
Was
your
motion
that
I
seconded
to
remove
this
Mayor
Pro
Tem
from
the
it's
still
there
I
mean
okay,
thank
you.
I
I,
misunderstood
I
thought.
L
E
D
B
J
This
time,
I
would
also
move
that
we
removed
the
line
item
pertaining
to
turn
off
non-payment.
The
current
fee
is
$15,
there's
an
increased
fee
of
$20,
which
would
total
it
out
at
$35,
which
would
be
retroactive.
Lee
applied
to
1,
1
2019,
again
I
would
move
that
we
removed
that
line
of
line
item
as
well.
Thank
you,
Mary.
A
second
right.
B
Further
conversation,
so
anyone
here
anybody
I,
want
to
say
that
I've
been
on
the
Water
and
Sewer
board,
where
we've
had
cases
like
this
come
up
to
us
and
in
one
case
there
were
several
of
us
who
were
concerned
because
it
looked
like
the
city
was
gonna,
go
actually
not
only
turn
off,
but
big
up
and
and
really
turn
off
in
the
street
some
things
and
we
had
them.
Please
stop
and
make
sure
that
someone
had
contacted
the
person
directly,
because
perhaps
there
was
some
sort
of
a
financial
thing
going
on
and
turned
out.
B
Z
B
A
L
L
So
I
would
like
to
get
some
additional
information
and
the
fact
that,
once
we
have
some
additional
information
on
how
this
is
happening,
what
population
that
might
be
happening
and
if
there's
any
other
steps
that
we
can
take
to
mitigate
that
help
or
understand
it
better?
What
benefit
this
additional
$20
is
really
going
to
do
the
city.
J
You
Mary
and
I
appreciate
your
point
on
that.
There
are
some
folks
that
don't
pay
their
bills
and
it
reaches
that
point.
I
would
think
that
that's
the
smaller
that's
the
minority
of
the
group
and
I'd
rather
err
they'll,
just
give
the
benefit
that
doubt
to
the
folks
that
really
didn't
have
the
resources
get
their
bill
paid
on
time
and
want
their
water
on.
Even
if
that
means
we
let
a
few
people
ride
on
the
20
bucks
that
are
just
being
not
paying
attention
as
they
should
to
their
bill.
Thanks
Mary
councilmember.
C
You
mayor,
the
fact
here
is
that
we
do
not
know
what,
to
what
degree
and
with
a
percentage
of
our
population
payments
are
being
made
or
not,
and
and
also
any
fees
removed
or
decreased
today
is
going
to
equal
a
direct
increase
in
the
budget
next
year.
So
let's
keep
that
in
mind
and
keep
in
mind
that
we
don't
have
the
raw
numbers
and
the
the
pure
facts.
We
can
estimate
and
assume
only
one,
but
we
don't
know
so.
Yeah
Thank
You
mayor
great.
E
The
question
that
I
have
it
says
here
turn
off
and
then
it
has
non-payment.
Do
people
actually
call
the
city
when
they
sell
the
house
or
went
and
a
renter
moves
out
because
they
would
do?
Does
this
actually
turn
off
water
when
a
property
has
been
sold
and
then
turn
it
back
on?
Or
can
people
just
call
in
and
change
owners
of
the
account
if.
V
V
We
get
a
lot
of
information
from
title
companies
about
who
the
new
owner
is,
and
then
there
would
be
no
turn
off
if
a
property
is
vacant
or
there's
some
question
about
the
title,
which
is
much
more
unlikely
than
they
might,
there
might
be
a
turn
off
and
they
party
of
the
owner
of
curd
would
have
to
pay
that,
but
in
the
vast
majority
of
times
it's
just
a
switch
of
title
and
not
a
turning
off
of
water.
Okay,.
B
So
what
I,
what
I
thought
was
happening
with
us
and
maybe
that
this,
where
we
need
a
lot
more
information,
was
that
there's
quite
a
bit
of
time
before
anything,
it's
turned
off.
Sometimes
it
can
be
as
much
as
six
months
or
to
nine
months
at
least
I,
remember
being
on
a
Water
and
Sewer
board
made
it
one
time
where
someone
came
up
for
a
hearing,
and
it
was
an
interesting
situation
now.
B
That's
not
normal
I
mean,
though
it
doesn't
happen
very
often
so
I
would
prefer
to
have
a
little
heavier
handed
at
the
further
end
and
get
lighter
to
try
and
figure
out.
What's
going
on
with
someone
along
the
way,
but
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
happening
and
what
our
a
Venusian
interaction
with
their
citizens
that
might
be
strapped
and
I.
Guess
you
probably
can't
tell
me
either
right.
Z
E
Pro-Tem
Russell
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
comment.
This
is
it's
very
difficult
for
some
people,
probably
more
likely
homeowners.
We
had
a
rental
property
in
Denver
and
I
notified
public
service
and
the
water
department
that
I
wanted
to
be
notified
before
they
turned
off
public
service
or
before
they
turned
off
the
water
and
I
forget
which
one
it
was
they.
She
got
three
notices
before
I
ever
got
notified
I
got
notified
just
before
they
were
going
to
shut
it
off
so
I.
T
L
T
L
So
to
turn
it
to
turn
it
back
on
is
35
just
shut.
It
off
is
35.
That's
$70!
Now
for
somebody
who
didn't
pay
the
bill
and
before
it
was
just
the
15,
so
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
huge,
that's,
a
huge
increase,
so
customer
request
as
point
isn't
even
arguing
about
the
turnin
on
increase
of
$35,
which
is
100%
increase
of
$35
just
to
lower
the
turning
off
fee
that
that
late
part
not
not
to
be
that
$20.
L
So
we're
still
garnering
an
additional
$35,
this
70
or
actually
$55
swing,
is
it's
kind
of
steep
for
somebody's.
In
that
position,
I
mean
to
the
mayor's
point.
I
understand
that
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
have
some
kind
of
deterrent
on
that,
but
we're
in
we're
already
deterrent
it
$35
for
them
to
get
it
back
on
if
they've
gotten
far
enough
to
have
it
shut
off,
it's
gonna
cost
some
$55
more
now
to
go
ahead
and
deal
with
this
situation
than
it
did
before.
That's
that's
substantive
I.
J
You
and
I
yeah
I
was
miss
reading
that
section
as
well
that
that
that
I
wasn't
acknowledging
that
as
an
additional
fee
turn
on
is
supposed
to
turn
off
I'm
gonna
restate
my
motion
and
well
I'll.
Just
put
it
forward
here
and
we'll
see
where
this
lands
I
would
motion,
remove
two
line
items,
the
first
being
the
increase
in
the
non
patent
fee.
Currently
the
fee
sits
at
$50,
there's
a
proposed
additional
$20
increase
on
that
$15
fee
for
a
total
of
35.
J
L
B
Discussion,
I'm
I'm
actually
wondering
this,
probably
poor
timing.
No,
but
we
have
to
move
on
this
one
I
wonder
if
we
should
just
table
the
entire
thing
it
seems
like
we
have
a
lot
more
questions
than
we
did
at
City
study
session
that
are
competing.
Some
of
this
so
vote
on
this.
Your
emotion
one
way
or
the
other,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
the
whole
thing,
is
creating
a
lot
of
confusion
and
maybe
different
ways
to
thinking
that
we
hadn't
thought
about.
It
had
been
considered
before
and
I'm.
J
L
B
B
Right,
so
we
have
a
second
to
that,
a
second
all
right.
So
in
questions
related
to
that.
So
my
question
to
you:
is
this
hamstring
you
in
any
way
we
can
live
with
what
we
have
currently
until
we
figure
this
out
some
more
apologize
that
so
many
questions
came
up
that
we
hadn't
really
probably
looked
at
as
clearly
before.
Do
you
think
you
have
enough
info
from
all
of
us
of
what
we
were,
what
the
concerns
are
I.
B
Think
if
we're
gonna
go
through
this
paces
again,
what
I
would
prefer
is
to
see
sort
of
if
we
can
get
some
documentation
of
how
many
cases
are
we
talking
about
and
what
are
the
reasons
for
people
not
paying
I'm
sure
they're
all
over
the
map,
but
we
do
know
and
then
secondly,
how
perhaps
some
examples
of
other
cities
and
how
they're
handling
this
at
different
times.
I
know
sometimes
utilities.
This
major
way
that
people
show
their
difficulty
with
handling
homeowner
and
renter.
Z
B
C
V
B
Z
Z
B
C
V
L
I
would
think
it
might
be
necessary
to
go
ahead
and
have
some
information
presented
at
study
session.
That's
been
clarified
prior
to
this
coming
forward
again
that
that's
what
I
think,
if
you
just
think
bringing
this
back
again,
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
resolve
anything.
So
I
would
assume.
We've
got
some
information
opportunities.
My.
L
V
L
B
B
Z
Z
B
J
You
Mary,
this
does
seem
somewhat
tidy
to
me.
It's
three
line.
Items
and
I
know
that
there's
some
research
to
be
done
on
your
side
and
I
certainly
appreciate
staff,
doing
that,
but
I
don't
need
a
great
deal
of
information
determination,
one
way
or
the
other,
so
I
would
hope
that
this
isn't
an
extremely
long,
extensive
conversation
when
we
get
into
study
session,
if
we're
able
that
she
Hornet
into
the
11th
I
believe
it
is
I.
Think.
V
It'll
be
a
tight
meeting
on
the
11th,
because
we
have
a
full
agenda
already
on
the
study
session,
but
you
know
we
can
also
supply
some
information
and
written
form
to
counsel
I.
Whatever
you
you
prefer
I'm,
just
my
understanding
is
the
motion
or
the
decision
that
counsel
is
made
is
to
bring
it
back
on
the
19th
and
I.
Think
we're
sort
of
suggesting,
maybe
instead
session
at
some
point,
would
make
more
sense.
V
E
H
W
Making
an
observation
here
on
the
three
line
items
that
we're
talking
about,
even
if
we
come
back
with
a
little
bit
more
for
me
and
that
there's
only
people
that
are
being
affected
or
ten
people
being
affected
from
some
of
the
conversation
it
sounds
like
even
five
could
be
too
much.
Ten
is
gonna,
be
too
much,
so
I
almost
feel
that
maybe
the
additional
information
would
be
overkill.
I
think
the
sense
that
I'm
getting
is
that
it
may
be
a
fee
that
we
don't
want
to
put
on
the
citizens
that
are
in
that
situation.
W
So
I
know
we're
gonna
bring
it
back
on
the
19th.
We
may
talk
about
it
during
city
council,
but
I
think
just
may
be
a
situation
that
we're
just
gonna
agree
that
we
don't
want
that
additional
fee
for
people
that
are
in
that
situation,
because
it's
not
just
this.
If
they're
in
that
situation,
there's
other
bills
that
they're
also
facing
the
epilady
song
just
for
thought,
I
guess
in
a
sense,
yeah.
L
L
What
I'm
willing
to
listen
to
is
that
if
this
is
truly
recouping
our
cost
or
whether
it
was
meant
to
just
be
a
little
bit
more
punitive
who
knows
or
maybe
do
tore
things
and
if
they
believe
it's
going,
deter
people
what
evidence
they
have
for
that
and
how
it
would
benefit
us,
so
I
actually
against
raising
these.
But
if
the
city
has
some
logic
behind
this
I
would
like
to
here
for
these
three
items
and
I
think
for
three
items
like
councilman
request.
L
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Did
you
get
what
you
needed?
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
move
us
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
11
C
for
executive
search,
firm
contract
approval
staff
recommends
City
Council,
approved
by
motion
of
a
professional
services
contract
with
gov
HRE
USA,
to
undertake
the
search
for
the
new
city
manager
and
presenting
as
answering
question
as
interim
city
manager.
Dorothy
Hargrove
I
would.
V
B
B
B
V
You
all
in
response
to
a
consensus
of
council,
we
had
drafted
an
assessment
period
recommendation.
We
are
asking
council
to
approve
by
emotion
an
8-week
assessment
period
for
the
code
enforcement
Advisory
Committee.
The
idea
is
that
during
that
time
we
will
there
take
a
study
and
discussions
about
the
legal
and
procedural
issues
brought
forward
and
discussions
about
this
committee
and
come
back
to
Council
with
any
specific
recommendations
at
the
end
of
that
period.
In
brief,
so
thank
you.
J
Requests,
oh
thank
you
Mary,
any
time
that
I'm
not
going
to
support
something
feel
like
providing
reasoning
and
articulate
why
I
I
think
that
there's
a
collective
agreement
amongst
those
on
the
board
and
everybody
up
here
that
we
do
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
code,
how
it
aligns
with
charter,
even
cut
the
policy
and
buy
a
lot
that
we
have
beneath
that
code
and
I.
Think
that
that
does
stretch
across
the
board
now
I
know
that
that
is
a
very
time-consuming
process
to
do
that.
J
Every
for
every
board
in
committee
I'm
not
sure
that
this
hiatus
and
I
believe
it's
set
at
eight
weeks
currently
that
that,
after
eight
weeks
by
preventing
this
group
for
meeting
that,
that's
going
to
be
some
silver
bullet
here.
I.
Think
that
really
the
onus
is
on
council
to
work
with
the
group
as
a
mr.
on
senior
suggest
and
I.
Think
several
members
of
the
committee
have
as
well
that
we
really
just
work
as
cooperatively
as
we
can
to
review
these
review
the
code.
J
Obviously,
anything
about
charter
purview,
the
code
review,
the
bylaws,
get
them
as
aligned
and
clearly
defined,
clear
defined
roles,
parameters,
functions,
goals,
etc.
So
everybody
knows
that
they're
on
the
same
and
that's
why
won't
people
are
supporting
I
think
that
it's
best
that
they
they
stay
in
motion
and
they
do
what
they're
doing
Minh.
You
know
I
know
that
we
did
just
pass
the
questions,
but
I
did
have
somebody
pose
a
question
to
me
and
I
think
it
was
a
good
one
and
didn't
come
from
a
member
ceac
I.
J
U
If
you,
if
you
put
any
of
the
volunteer
committees
that
you
create
and
you
appoint
on
a
hiatus,
they
cannot
meet
as
whatever
their
committee
might
be,
so
if
they
all
get
together
and
chat
about
code
enforcement.
At
that
point,
it's
not
an
open
meeting.
It's
not
a
meeting.
It
has
its.
It
does
not
impact
the
public
when
they
meet
under
the
regulations
of
this
council.
They
meet
as
public
bodies
and
under
the
rules
of
public
bodies.
U
J
Guess,
and
thank
you
for
the
clarification
on
that
I
appreciate.
You
know
to
that
point.
That
gives
me
even
more
posit
a
could
still,
essentially
you
know,
be
meeting,
but
without
minutes
being
taken
without
a
beacon
being
open
to
public.
You
know
for
that.
For
those
reasons
you
know
certainly
something
that
we
do
need
to
review.
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
those
discussions
on
the
policy,
the
code
bylaws,
but
I
won't
be
supporting
tonight
thanks
Mara
thank.
W
As
I
made
mentioned
during
the
study
session
last
week,
my
main
concern
was
just
the
fact
that
there
was
an
email
that
was
sent
between
members
of
the
code,
Advisory
Committee,
and
it
basically
outlined
two
items
that
really
affected
me
in
the
sense
that
they
were
violating
section
32
of
the
Charter,
and
that
was
the
videotaping
of
code
enforcement
officers
and
also
the
accordion
a
police,
the
code
enforcement
officers.
That
was
the
the
crux
of
my
issue
with
the
committee
is
that
they
were
violating
charter
and
that
led
to
other
aspects
of
the
you
know.
W
Of
the
city
manager,
there
just
needed
to
be
a
better
understanding
of
what
their
priorities
were
and
I.
Don't
feel
that
that
that's
the
case
right
now,
but
it
all
stand
from
that
initial
realization
that
they
were
going
by
elating
charter,
section
32
of
the
Charter
and
videotaping
and
recording
the
police
officers.
So
that's
where
I
stood
on
that
aspect.
W
C
C
It's
a
pause.
It's
temporary!
It's
not
punitive!
It's
it's
a
chance
for
us
to
make
things
better,
such
that
the
committee
does
this.
This
group
can
come
back
together
and
move
forward
in
a
stronger
way
and
fulfill
their
duties
with
more
confidence
and
without
any
likelihood
or
less
likelihood
of
impeding
charter
or
infringing
upon
what
they
shouldn't
and
with
citizens
feeling
comfortable
going
to
those
meetings
and
feeling
that
they
they
do
have
a
right
to
attend.
Those
meetings.
E
Then
one
thing
that
I
very
concerned
about
is
we
really
haven't
given
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
and
opportunity
to
come
and
talk
to
City,
Council
and
addressing
these
accusations
have
been
made.
The
that
email
that
was
generated
was
in
response
to
a
request.
There
was
and
I,
don't
have
it
before
me,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
remember
this
from
from
memory.
So
if
I
get
it
wrong,
you
can
help
me.
E
One
of
the
code
enforcement
committee
saw
a
post
on
next
door
about
an
ice
dam
being
built
up,
and
then
the
question
went
to
the
chair.
What
would
you
what
would
you
do?
He
just
literally
stated
facts:
the
the
committee
somehow
that
question
got
asked
at
the
last
committee
meeting
and
it
was
very
matter-of-fact
straightforward.
It
really
involved
documenting
the
situation
and
it
was
specifically
about
that
ice
dam
and
what
to
do
and
how
to
resolve
the
issue
that
the
videotaping
was
all
about
documenting.
E
It
was
not
about
gotchu,
so
I
think
in
not
allowing
this
dialogue
between
us
and
them
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
resolve
that.
The
other
concern
that
I
have
is
this
hasn't.
Even
been
put
on
the
agenda
for
a
study
session
until
March
11th
is
that
correct,
so
I
think
that's
where
we
put
it
last
week?
Am
I
correct
or
I'm.
E
E
It
cannot
support
this
I
that
we
absolutely
should
address
these
issues
and
I.
Think
it's
not
only
this
committee.
This
committee
is,
though
you
know
this.
My
mother
always
said
the
squeaky
wheel
gets
the
grease.
This
is
the
committee
that
needs
the
grease
right
now
and
I
do
believe.
We
need
to
address
these
issues
and
I
would
like
to
move
forward
addressing
them,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
to
take
a
hiatus.
V
B
E
L
L
Is
the
underlying
legislation
and
language
does
not,
in
my
opinion,
clear
up
what
I
think
is
an
assumption
by
councilmember
Ciera
what
he,
how
he
interprets,
how
he
reads
it,
and
that
is
that
there's
a
violation
of
the
Charter,
because
somebody
films,
the
code
enforcement
I,
maintain
that
they
are
public
servants
and
public
servant.
You
can
film
them
as
you
desire
to.
There
is
no
limitation
on
that.
Nor
do
I
believe
that
that
is
a
violation
of
the
Charter
or
either
a
council
member
or
a
member
of
any
of
the
boards
or
commissions
I.
L
L
A
great
portion
of
that
that
asked
for
the
removal
of
that
person
is
not
on
the
tape,
as
my
understanding
and
prior
to
that,
the
meeting
prior
to
that
that
that
person
talked
for
15
minutes
and
was
heard
by
that
board
and
they
respected
their
opportunity
to
speak,
and
she
had
her
opportunity
to
talk
so
until
we
have
an
opportunity
to
take
a
citizen
Court
and
ask
them
what
they
think
happened.
Instead
of
all
the
conjecture.
I
think
that
this
is
ill-advised.
H
H
We
obviously
need
to
do
some
policy
cleanup
to
make
things
clearer
to
them
and
give
them
guidance,
so
they
can
be
an
effective
and
efficient
with
their
time,
their
citizen
volunteers.
They
give
us
a
lot
of
their
energy
and
and
work,
and
we
need
to
do
what
we
can
to
help
them
be
successful,
which
includes
which
was
mentioned
earlier
tonight,
improving
the
relations
between
that
group
and
staff,
so
I'm
supportive
of
this
tonight.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
it.
H
B
B
I
would
and
that's
what
I
would
like
I
think
it
would
be
in
best
way
to
honor
the
folks
that
are
giving
you
of
their
time
engage
them
in
some
conversations,
I'm
sure
within
the
eight
weeks
that
we
have,
but
not
me
to
do
what
they
think.
They're
supposed
to
do
at
this
point,
I
do
believe
whether
it's
a
charter,
violation
or
not
I
do
believe
they're
varying
views
about
what
people
think
they're
supposed
to
be
doing.
B
So
I
will
be
in
favor
of
this
as
a
way
to
move
us
forward
as
a
positive
way.
If
people
want
to
view
that
negatively
I,
it's
unfortunate
to
me,
it's
a
positive
statement
to
figure
out
how
to
best
help
these
folks
serve
us
and
for
us
to
serve
them
and
for
all
the
citizens
to
have
their
voices
heard
in
that
process.
I
don't
take
this
lightly
at
all.
This
is
I,
just
I
think
it's
an
important
step
to
make
things
work
for
everyone.
Better,
so
looks
like
we
have
no
more
comments.
Please
vote.
V
B
You
our
next
agenda
item
is
agenda
item
12,
which
is
general
discussion.
Mayor's
choice
under
under
we
have
a
posting
for
an
executive
session
motion;
I
move
to
go
into
an
executive
session
for
the
discussion
of
specialized
details
of
security
arrangements
or
investigations
under
CRS,
section
24,
6
dash
402
a
second
second.
J
You
and
I
know
that
I'm
the
broken
record
on
this,
but
I
do
feel
like
I'm
speaking
this
one
again,
I'm
not
going
to
support
strictly
because
I
don't
think
that
we
disclose
enough
here.
Same
security
arrangements
is
far
too
broad
and
I
think
that's
something
that
critical,
because
I
imagine
it's
going
to
be
security
arrangements
regarding
a
public
place
that
could
be
schools
that
could
be
this
chamber.
That
could
be
wherever
we
could
provide
a
little
bit
more
specificity
of
where
we
think
that
there's
a
security
concern
to
the
public,
Thank
You
councilmember.
C
L
Jane
I'm,
given
that
we're
given
the
directive
when
we
go
into
an
executive
session
that
if
we
go
off
topic
that
we
are
supposed
to
protest,
that
and
we're
advised
that
that
protest
will
be
for
the
record.
I.
Don't
think
we
have
enough
information
here
for
me
to
be
able
to
make
that
determination.
I
would
have
to
agree
with
counsel
and
request
that
they
cannot
support
this.