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From YouTube: City Council Study Session 20 Aug 2018
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I. Emergency Purchase of SAN Discussion - Informational
City Manager Eric Keck will be present to discuss the budgeting of funds related to the storage area network replacement. Staff will be present for any additional questions related to this item.
II. Flood Discussion - Informational
City Council will discuss the flood that occurred on 24 July 2018. They will be sharing their views and perceptions on what was learned from the response and the recovery. Additional Staff will be pre...
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A
A
C
Alright,
I
think
all
council
members
could
take
their
seats
howsoever
Barrentine.
Do
you
want
us
to
wait
for
you?
He
wants
to
get
started
well,
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started,
so
this
is
a
Monday
August,
20th
2018
and
we
have
a
full
council
tonight
for
this
angle
at
City
Council
study
session.
Our
our
first
item
up
is
the
emergency
purchase
of
sa
and
a
discussion
in,
and
this
is
informational
and
our
city
manager.
Air
Keck
is
here
to
present
discuss
a
budgeting
of
the
funds
related
to
the
storage
area.
C
E
D
So,
as
requested
by
the
council,
this
item
we've
done
some
additional
research
to
provide
specifically
we're
in
the
financial
realm.
This
particular
purchase
was
appropriate
and,
as
you
can
see
what
we
meant
back
to
2013,
the
original
appropriation
went
back
to
2013
for
the
acquisition
of
network
development,
as
well
as
the
addition
of
the
emergency
systems
necessary
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
physical
backup.
D
So,
as
was
provided
in
the
City
Council's
packet
for
the
actual
night
of
the
meeting,
we
still
provided
that
sheet
as
well
the
project
status
and
fund
report,
and
if
you
look
at
that,
it
says
capital
projects
fund,
my
CP,
which
stands
for
a
multi-year
capital
project
fund.
So
this
as
as
we
dug
into
it.
This
funding
has
been
around
actually
in
that
fund
since
that
particular
fiscal
year,
and
you
can
see
from
all
the
documentation
provided
that
that
should
answer
questions
related
to
when
this
was
appropriated.
D
D
So
if
you
go
back
to
2013
you
look,
you
can
see
that
there
was
$200,000
appropriated
for
IT
network,
so
that
was
appropriate
for
the
IT
network.
It
and
you
can
see
what
was
actually
carried
forward
and
then
there
was
another
appropriation
of
additional
funds
in
14
additional
funds
in
15,
and
so
each
of
these
years
this
money
continued
to
roll.
D
Until
such
time
as
our
new
director
of
I-team
Erika
brocklander
decided
to
make
this
purchase
and
make
the
make
the
correction,
so
you
can
see
IT
Network
in
there
and
there's
also
funding
that
was
appropriated
for
the
disaster
recovery
system
in
subsequent,
obviously
to
the
samsam
virus
that
hit
us
back
in
2017.
That
became
a
necessary
component
as
well
for
our
network,
and
so
she
used
the
split
between
IT
network
development
as
well
as
disaster
recovery
to
pay
for
that
$236,000
expenditure.
C
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
information
city
manager,
Keck
I
did
go
back
to
the
2013
budget
to
identify
these
items,
I
think
back
in
2013
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
there
wasn't
as
much
detail
as
what
we
get
in
the
budget
in
2018,
so
it
doesn't
specifically
call
out
the
sand
right.
It
just
goes
under
IT
and
it's
specific
it
down.
So
obviously
we
can't
do
anything
about
the
2013
I
say,
call
out
the
specific
purchase
or
what
was
appropriated
for
2013,
right,
I,
guess,
moving
forward.
D
In
2013,
nor
did
I
prepare
the
14
budget.
Even
though
I
came
right
when
the
council
was
adopting
it,
it
was
kind
of
awkward
I'm
standing
there
going
here's
the
budget,
but
you're
right,
I
think
moving
forward.
We
do
want
to
provide
detail,
and
specifically,
we
will
provide
the
council
with
the
my
CPU
multi-year
capital
projects
list.
You
can
actually
still
see
what's
out
there
and
what
projects
that
we're
going
to
be
bringing
forward
or
there
might
not
have
been
accomplished
in
a
year
so,
for
example,
I'll
just
pull
an
example
up.
D
If
you
look
on
the
sheet
that
says
capital
projects
fund,
my
CP
project
status,
December,
31
17,
you
see
that
there's
an
audio
vision
system
upgrade
audio
video
system
upgrade
for
the
missile
court.
We've
been
carrying
funds
for
that
and
that's
all
predicated
upon
when
the
county
upgrades
their
court
systems
and
so
I
can't
send
that
back
to
the
general
fund,
because
at
some
point
in
time,
when
the
county
does
changes
their
video
arraignment
system,
we
will
also
have
to
change
our
video
arraignment
system
here.
In
order
to
make
that
happen.
D
F
So
if
you
claim
that
it's
the
little
carry
over
here
and
then
a
little
carry
over
here,
but
actually
the
money
that
was
appropriated
here
was
actually
spent,
but
if
I
just
go
ahead
and
say,
and
part
of
the
reason
for
this
concern
was
the
information
that
we
were
handed
said.
Budget
appropriation
appropriated
for
2018
said
zero
in
our
budget
buck.
F
D
Actually,
what
you
just
said,
there's
pieces
of
it
are
true
and
pieces
that
are
not
specifically,
as
you
look
at
our
Charter.
What
we're
required
to
do
is
any
expenditure,
and
that's
you
point
out
a
very
good
point.
I'm
glad
you
enunciated
what
you
just
did,
because
you
just
basically
pointed
out
the
problems
we
have
out
with
our
procurement
ordinance.
So
many
cities
have
a
policy
that
basically
says:
if
money
is
appropriated
and
you
spend
within
your
appropriation,
you
don't
have
to
have
council
approval.
That's
not
what
our
Charter
says.
D
However,
our
procurement
policy
says
in
certain
instances
you
do
have
to
come
up
with.
You
know
you
can
purchase
without
with
money,
that's
appropriated
without
taking
the
council
for
commodities
like
chemicals
and
things
like
that
for
the
water
treatment
plant
or
utilities.
In
other
instances,
though,
it
basically
says
if
there
is
a
purchase,
that's
over
$25,000
in
the
general
fund,
because
you
can
first
up
to
$50,000
in
the
utility
that
agreement
needs
to
go
this
Council
for
approval,
and
that's
precisely
what
happened
here,
but
just
like
any
other
critical
infrastructure
that
failed.
D
This
particular
infrastructure
was
just
as
important.
It's
digital
infrastructure
that
actually
started
to
take
down
systems
within
the
city,
so
we
had
req
track
was
starting
to
fail.
We
had
C
is
infinity,
which
is
the
utility
billing
software
that
was
beginning
to
fail.
We,
if
we
didn't
take
action,
all
of
our
digital
systems
would
have
crashed
because
of
the
sand.
Storage
area
network
was
full
and
it
couldn't
accommodate
upgrades
and
updates
that
critically
would
allow
programs
to
us
operate
effectively.
D
F
That
your
answer
to
that
brings
me
to
my
next
question,
and
that
was
that
this
was
not
an
anticipated
expenditure
and
therefore
couldn't
have
been
appropriated
in
the
context
of
the
information
that
we
were
doing,
because
it
was
unexpected.
It
was
unexpected
with
a
company
that
we
paid
for,
and
this
is
to
the
contract
more
than
the
appropriation
piece
we
paid
a
company.
They
did
an
upgrade.
That's
what
caused
the
need
for
the
storage.
So
it
was
not
an
anticipated
expenditure
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
speaks
more
to
it.
F
Being
an
emergency
and
probably
couldn't
have
been
appropriated
for,
but
if
there
was
money
that
got
moved
around
and
we
all
saw
that
they
showed
us
where
they
moved
the
money
around,
but
it
wasn't
appropriated
for
this
particular
thing.
I
think
that
we
come
to
some
understanding
as
a
council
on
what
we
have
to
what
we
want
to
do
with
this,
and
at
this
point
the
situation
existed.
F
We
might
want
to
look
back
at
the
contract
and
see
exactly
what
the
players
did
with
peak
resources
and
how
they
might
have
created
this
situation
because
they
should
have
anticipated
it.
Our
vendor
should
have
anticipated
piece
of
this,
but
also
on
whether
we
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
bind
future
councils
in
continual
practice
where
we're
going
off
of
something
that
happens
councils
ago,
and
how
much
do
we
know
about
that?
And
how
much
are
we
aware
of?
F
What's
going
on,
then
behind
the
background
that
we're,
if
we
go
to
a
system
that
fixed
what
the
city
manager
says,
he
believes
is
a
problem,
then
we
may
make
future
councils
unaware
of
money
that's
being
spent
from
three
councils
ago.
That's
already
committed
and
may
put
them
in
an
in
an
odd
position.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
put
this
information
more
as
a
process
of
policy
procedure.
I'm
dealing
with
what
you
believe
is
the
problem,
but
also
on
what
could
create
a
problem
for
future
councils.
F
Is
it
kind
of
did
for
us
on?
How
far
do
we
go
back?
I
think
the
Charter
brings
some
issues
about
no
more
than
five
years
and
we
might
want
to
set
a
time
limit
so
that,
if
something
happens
with
a
project
that
doesn't
get
fulfilled,
that
there's
some
something
that
triggers
a
conversation
for
the
next
council
two
or
three
councils
or
five
years
from
now
on
that
so
I
do
understand.
F
But
I
am
still
concerned
that
the
emergency
piece,
because
it
was
an
emergency
and
it
was
a
situation
that
was
created
that
even
the
vendor
didn't
identify
I,
don't
believe
it
could
have
been
appropriated
for
I.
Do
believe
that
you
probably
have
the
authority
to
move
the
money
within
some
of
the
capital
improvements.
Piece
of
it
and
I
understand
the
moving
of
money.
But
this
can't
really
be
money
left
over
from
2013
because
more
than
what
was
appropriated
got
spent
in
2014,
15
16.
F
So
but
going
forward
I
mean
this
council
really
has
to
have
an
idea
of
what
we're.
What
are
we
going
to
do
and
how
are
we
going
to
handle
it?
Because
it's
not
really
something
that
we
we
voted
on
it.
We
spent
the
money
so
but
I
think
it's
more
of
a
policy
procedure
that
we
have
to
do
moving
forward.
F
D
Well,
we'll
see
I
mean
right
now,
we're
so
busy.
We
haven't
had
really
time
to
depict
all
the
issues,
but
yeah.
We
have
a
running
list
of
issues
related
to
procurement
that
we
would
like
for
the
council
to
weigh
in
upon
so
that
these
situations,
when
they
arise,
hopefully
they
do
not
arise.
There
are
not.
You
know,
allegations
made
that
something
illegal
has
gone
on
and
it
makes
the
public
believe
that
you
know
we're
running
fast
and
loose
with
our
funds
and
clearly
that
is
not
the
case
here.
D
D
That
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
had
the
failure
in
the
systems
that
we
do
and
so
I
think
it
was
our
new
IT
director
again
Margaret
brocklander,
who
came
up
and
said:
we've
got
to
replace
that
as
well
as
disaster
recovery,
and
this
sand
does
that
for
us
in
the
event
that
we
have
another
god
forbid,
we
have
another
virus
or
malware
attack.
This
will
put
us
in
a
position
that
we
will
hopefully
be
sound
in
our
systems.
I
do.
C
So
we've
got
to
come
to
some
kind
of
agreement
on
this,
and
part
of
this
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
the
city
has
adopted
a
new
finance
program
and
that
is
very,
very
open
and
transparent.
So
we
can
now
see
when
things
stack
with
one
company
over
time.
That
goes
beyond
the
amount
that
we've
agreed
to,
which
is
what
twenty
five
thirty
thousand
for
capital
versus
yeah.
C
So
it's
it's
different,
but
that's
what
we're
bumping
into
that's.
Why
tonight,
where
you
have
this
long
meeting
again:
Mayor,
Pro,
teller
and
I,
keep
talking
about!
How
are
you
gonna
get
some
of
these
things
out
because
it's
going
to
take
us
forever,
but
we
we've
got
to
do
this
sooner
than
later.
We're
gonna
be
here
really
late,
every
Monday
night.
B
Question
that
I
have
it
goes
to
our
procurement
policy,
because
I
actually
looked
up.
We
have
spent
a
lot
of
money
in
the
last
three
years
with
peak
resources.
Is
there
anything
in
our
procurement
policy
that
limits
the
amount
of
money
that
we
can
spend
with
one
company,
and
could
you
address
why
there
might
be
a
reason
that
we
would
need
to
with
this
sure.
D
In
and
really
there
isn't
anything
in
the
policy
that
delineates
how
much
you
can
spend
with
one
particular
vendor.
Obviously,
with
issues
such
as
this
peak
resources
has
provided
significant
amount
of
not
only
product
but
technical
expertise
with
the
installation
of
their
product
and
I
I
won't
say
this
is
a
sole
source,
but
also,
if
you
look
back
to
that,
June
18th
procurement
of
this.
They
were
part
of
and
have
been
part
of,
the
state's
cooperative
purchasing
program
where
they
have
the
most
responsive
and
responsible
price
for
products
that
we
needed
and
I.
D
D
Question
as
a
vendor
that
the
vendor
that
they
are
basically
a
hardware
vendor,
they
don't
get
involved,
maybe
their
salespeople
do
and
try
to
understand.
Hey.
What's
going
on
with
your
network,
let's
ask
questions:
do
you
need
a
disaster
recovery
system
or
is
your
as
your
topology
for
your
network
shaky
so
that
there's
something
else
I
can
sell
you
to
replace
I
know
that
in
the
past,
because
we've
had
a
changeover
in
directors,
keeping
IT
directors
is
difficult
and
we're
blessed
to
have
miss
brocklander
I.
D
Don't
think
she's
here
this
evening,
we're
blessed
to
have
her
in
that
she
has
clearly
dedicated
to
the
public
sector
rather
than
private,
enjoys
that
piece
of
IT,
but
I
I
think
it's
dependent,
I
think
just
to
rely
on
a
vendor.
To
tell
you
what
you
need
to
buy
is
somewhat
troublesome.
We
don't
want
to
buy
more
than
what
we
actually
need
and
don't
want
to
be
oversold.
D
So
that's
an
excellent
question,
but
without
miss
brocklander
here
to
answer
that
I
couldn't
tell
you
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
they
would
know
unless
we
enunciate
to
them
with
an
IT
master
plan
and
we
have
an
IT
master
plan
but
I.
Don't
think
we
market
that
out
and
say
hey.
We
want
to
Chum
that
around
and
see
how
people
bid
on
okay.
B
C
D
Think
we
need
to
have
definitely
have
a
study
session
on
that,
because
I,
don't
think
Council
realizes
the
number
of
purchases
that
are
starting
to
hit
then
I'm
pushing
towards
you.
I
mean
this
includes
knowing
full
well
again.
Now
that
we
have
our
ERP
system
items
that
historically
haven't
come
forward.
D
Commodities
such
as
chemicals
we've
got
chemicals
being
purchased
for
our
water
and
wastewater
utilities
that
they
absolutely
positively
must
have
if
we
do
not
procure
them
when
they
run
out,
because
sometimes
we
can't
tell
because
of
the
systems
and
processes
that
they
use
to
use
more
chemical
or
more
methanol,
for
example,
for
denitrification
or
more
sodium
hypochlorite
for
water
treatment
at
the
plant.
They
can't
always
figure
out
when,
when
they're
gonna
be
buying
it,
so
we
could
do
a
master
purchase
at
the
beginning
of
a
year
and
have
Council
approve
that.
D
But
those
are
the
types
of
things
you've
never
seen
before.
I
hadn't
even
seen
him
before,
because
they
would
go
directly
to
procurement
for
appeal.
They
get
appeal
and
they
purchase
and
pay
without
any
approval.
But
again,
that's
because
a
procurement
policy
says
I'm
a
cop
commodities
and
chemicals
are
excluded
from
that.
If
the
money's
been
appropriate,
you
just
go
buy
it.
So
that's
the,
however,
in
conflict
with
the
Charter
that
says:
thou
shalt
bring
forth
to
council
all
contracts
and
agreements
over
25
for
the
general
fund
or
50
for
an
enterprise.
Maybe.
D
Like
to,
but
again
it's
very
complex
because
you're
talking
about
not
just
identifying
that
piece,
there
are
other
pieces
of
procurement
that
also
need
to
be
examined
and
we
want
to
bring
forth
all
those
issues
at
one
point
in
time,
as
opposed
to
do
it
piecemeal,
which
would
frustrate
you,
as
well
as
staff
going.
Okay
council
said
this,
but
how
about
that
and
monetary
levels?
You
know
that
we're
set
in
the
60s,
for
example,
$50,000,
doesn't
even
buy
a
pump
at
for
wastewater,
and
so
whether
or
not
council
wants
to
go.
D
C
A
Didn't
have
any
this
lack
of
understanding
behind
the
decision
that
was
made
so
I
don't
have
any
comments
except
to
what
the
city
manager
just
mentioned
about
potentially
amending
an
old
old
language
old
thoughts.
Financials
that
align
with
years
ago,
purchasing
I
know
that
there
are
several
areas
within
our
government
where
we
need
to
update
some
documentation.
So
I'd
like
to
see
us
take
that
seriously,
not
just
for
this
type
of
instance,
but
across
the
board.
Frankly,.
H
H
We're
saying
that
we're
ending
up
with
the
long
agenda
is
because
we're
voting
on
things,
pumps
that
costs
over
fifty
K
or
whatever
the
case
may
be
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
it
shouldn't
be
that
difficult
to
rectify
the
procurement
process
you
mentioned
that
could
take
three
or
four
study
sessions.
If
we
take
it
all
on
at
once,
am
I
understanding
that
correctly?
No.
D
No
I'm,
sorry,
sir
I
didn't
want
to
split
it
up
into
multiple
study
sessions.
We're
not
prepared
to
bring
forth
right.
Now.
All
the
items
I've
identified
only
one
issue
of
concern
where
there's
not
congruency
between
our
current
policy
and
the
Charter,
but
there
are
others
that
we
may
want
to
bring
forth
a
comprehensive
list.
That
might
take
me
more
time,
along
with
the
city
attorney
to
prepare
I
wasn't
suggesting
you
need
to
take
it
it's.
F
I
think
in
the
past,
as
to
councilmember
Ciara,
what
he
brought
up
about
the
budget
last
time
is
that
if
we
had
the
detail
in
the
budget
on
what
they
expected
to
spend,
then
we
could
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
that.
That's
part
of
how
that
was
done
before,
as
we've
always
seen.
This
was
already
in
the
budget.
This
line-item
was
there.
This
pump
was
there.
F
This
is
what's
going
on
and
those
things
were
were
made
a
lot
easier
because
the
discussion
about
whether
the
money
should
be
spent-
and
we
never
want
to
have
a
policy
that
bypasses
this
council,
because
we
are
the
representation
of
the
community
and
the
taxpayers
who
are
providing
the
round.
We
never
want
to
bypass
them.
F
So
I
think
some
of
that
could
be
taken
care
of
with
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
the
budget
as
well,
so
that
we're
already
made
aware
that
these
things
are
going
to
be
being
being
spent
as
to
the
emergency
nature
of
this.
That's
what
caused
the
problems
for
I
think
the
community
is
that
there
was
an
anticipation
that
probably
the
vendor
should
have
had
an
idea
that
it
was
being
created
or
we
should
have
had
an
idea.
F
It
was
being
created,
but
it
was
the
eight
week
delay
and
then
the
emergency
nature
of
it
that
the
way
that
it
came
forward
and
then
his
people
started
to
delve
into
this
a
little
bit
more.
The
amount
of
money
that
was
spent
on
this
contract,
which
isn't
showing
as
spent
or
encumbered
right
now,
even
for
2018,
yet
through
June,
was
significant
to
the
amount
of
money
that
they've
been
paid
in
the
past
years.
The
total
amount
of
their
contracts
so
to
have
something
that
kind
of.
F
Necessary
and
so
important
and
not
have
it
come
for
eight
weeks.
I
think
was
somewhat
of
an
issue
as
well,
so
I
think,
while
we're
discussing
those
concerns
that
we
need
to
bring
up
not
having
this
happen
again
as
well
as
much
as
we
can
provide
and
if
it
does
happen,
setting
some
kind
of
timeline
so
that
we
have
a
little
bit
more
timely
response
and
counsel
being
addressed
on
this
Thank.
D
I
appreciate
appreciate
that
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
made
by
councilmember,
Barrentine
and
again
I
apologize
to
the
council
for
not
alerting
all
of
you
to
this
particular
mergency
nature
of
the
purchase
that
did
through
first
of
all
through
mark
Wolfe
alert,
the
Mayor,
Pro
Tem
and
then
I
talked
to
the
Mayor
Pro
Tem
now
the
following
week,
so
somebody
was
notified
but
again
moving
forward.
As
I
said,
we
will
make
sure
that
all
council
members
will
be
notified
in
a
timely
fashion,
not
dissimilar
to
the
storm
water
failure.
D
On
the
twenty
fourth
of
July,
you
saw
I
sent
on
an
email
that
night,
a
council
I've
got
to
bring
out
American
civil
constructors
immediately
that'll
be
brought
back
where
you're
gonna
have
to
do
in
a
supplemental
appropriation
from
the
storm
water
utility
to
pay
for
the
damage
that
transpired
on
River
Point
and
an
Oxford.
So
not
too
similar
to
that.
This
is
again
one
of
those
things
where,
if
we
didn't
act,
we
would
have
had
a
bigger
problem
and-
and
we
would
have
had
a
deeper
conversation,
I
think
about
our
network.
So
thank
you.
D
C
F
We
got
that
there
was
at
least
some
kind
of
bid
process
or
bid
consideration
in
there.
And
if
we're
not
going
to
put
that
on
that
portal,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
information
is
more
out
there
or
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
also
include
in
our
discussion
the
requirements
for
a
bid,
even
when
it
is
an
emergency
when
it
is
possible
and
what
this
council
wants
to
do
with
it.
I.
D
D
As
a
matter
of
fact,
they
gave
us
a
better
price
than
the
state
bid
because
of
our
experience
with
them,
as
well
as
was
able
to
cut
down
the
time
necessary
to
bring
that
product
to
the
fore
and
again,
our
procurement
ordinance
basically
enunciates
that
we
have
the
ability
to
not
utilize
a
bid
process
when
cooperatively,
you
can
piggyback
on
a
state
or
federal
or
GS
GS
budget,
and
that's
what
we
did
here.
Thank.
F
D
D
F
D
C
First
off
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
city
manager
for
all
of
the
documents
in
the
past
that
we
have
received,
with
all
of
the
information
of
what
transpired
I'd
like
to
kick
this
off
and
then
have
each
of
us
maybe
take
turns
with
some
of
our
perceptions
and
understanding.
If
each
of
us
took
like
two
or
three
minutes,
and
then
we
could
have
some
discussion
from
that
point,
given
what
everyone
has
said
collectively,
then
we
might
have
enough
time.
C
C
So
one
of
the
things
that's
really
important
in
my
mind
of
learning
from
this
is,
is
how
important
it
is
for
each
of
us
to
share
information
from
our
districts
and
to
know
sort
of
what's
happened.
I
know
that
councilmember
Martinez
was
sending
me
text
messages
with
some
pictures
of
hail
that
looked
like
they
were
shoveling
from
your
driveway
or
somebody
was
so
I
knew
it
was
a
lot
but
I
think
the
quickness
of
understanding
the
depth
of
what
was
going
on
with
what
I
feel
the
most
badly
about
and
then.
C
Secondly,
for
me,
as
sort
of
the
presiding
officer,
though
I
don't
have
any
more
power
than
anyone
else
here,
I
do
see
that
people
look
to
whoever
is
in
charge
to
be
that
maybe
a
point
person
for
communication.
So
when
I
look
back
on
what
happened
now,
I
realize
that
I
kept
pushing
everything
towards
the
city
manager.
Please
put
things
out,
asked
him
to
do
some
press
release
kind
of
stuff
that
that
had
gone
out
but
I
realized.
C
She
called
me
right
away
and
I
was
able
to
say:
hey,
remember,
cuesta,
so
I
think
right
now
on
the
street,
maybe
go
out
with
with
him,
but
that
kind
of
coordinated
effort
amongst
us
of
what
we
each
want
to
do
and
should
do
you're.
Looking
at
me
kind
of
funny,
she'd
ask
what
can
I
do
to
be
helpful
and
I
said
I.
C
A
We
had
a
lot
going
on
and
which
developed
as
the
days
went
on,
but
but
I
happen
to
see
that
that
wonderful
email
from
secure,
Grace
and
partners
about
the
food
they
were
preparing
and
we're
going
to
deliver,
etc,
etc.
I
mean
the
list
was
long
from
my
vantage
point,
but
I
I
saw
a
disconnect
in
terms
of
all
of
the
citizens,
really
understanding
all
of
what
was
available
in
the
ramifications
of
all
of
that
included
in
that
also
as
disposal,
even
just
support
through
manual
labor,
which
mr.
cuesta
was
out
there
doing.
A
I
still
applaud
you
for
that,
and
it
was
amazing
and
then
detailed
on
flood
insurance,
just
information
that
was
centralized
to
consistency
in
that
information.
So
wherever
citizens
seem
to
have
gotten
pieces
of
information,
it
wasn't
consistent.
That
was
very
clear
and
remained
sort
of
inconsistent,
depending
on
who
the
citizens
may
have
spoken
to,
and
it
may
have
been
and
I'm,
not
speaking
in
the
real
specificity
here,
but
maybe
a
public
works
person
was
out
performing
some
utility
duty
related
to
the
storm,
and
maybe
the
neighbors
spoke
with
them.
A
A
So
some
of
the
homes
got
vacuumed
out
and
dried
out,
pretty
quickly
ordered
services
themselves
and
even
ripped
out
drywall
and
we're
down
to
studs
and
we're
still
living
in
the
homes
where
they
shouldn't
have
been
living
and
so
I
think
two
too
many
days
of
that
passed
before
the
city
was
able
to
communicate
with
them
or
whomever
was
able
to
communicate
with
the
citizens
and
help
them
understand.
I
mean
this
is
a
big
safety
issue.
Yep
you
can
no
longer
reside
in
your
home
until
XYZ
happens.
A
So
those
three
issues
and
all
of
it
boils
down
to
what
you
membered.
What
you
mentioned
mayor,
Olsen,
then
I
absolutely
feel
an
emergency
manager
is,
is
tantamount
to
us
being
able
to
manage
anything
like
this
natural
or
man-made
disaster
moving
forward.
It's
come
before
a
council
before
and
unfortunately,
we've
had
this
incident,
but
crisis
brings
opportunity
and
the
fact
is
that
this
role
is
an
insanely
busy
role,
there's
almost
not
enough
time
for
one
person
to
do
it.
A
B
A
It's
far
too
vast
and
complex
and
time-consuming
for
the
city
manager
to
possibly
take
on
that
role.
The
role
typically
liaises
with
appointed
members
of
the
administration
to
to
form
out
the
team
and-
and
it
takes
a
while-
it's
a
really
major
process
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
that
in
place.
I
mean
natural
disaster
is
not
just.
What
might
you
know
upon
us
in
the
near
future,
so
I
think
that
could
have
helped.
We
talked
about
the
centralization
and
everybody
sort
of
going
to
Eric
and
manager,
CAC
and
saying
hey.
C
A
G
Counselor
Martinez,
thank
you.
I
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said
so
far,
I
agree
with
the
importance
of
having
a
dedicated
emergency
manager
position.
I
think
had
we
already
had
that
in
place
and
a
plan
clearly
in
place
a
lot
of
this
miscommunication
or
what
some
folks
feel
is
a
lack
of
response
could
have
been
avoided.
So
I
think
we
need
to
really
a
dedicated
person
for
angle
would
help
us
work
through
those
plans
and
I.
G
Think
I'm
really
glad
we're
talking
about
what
we
learn
from
this,
because
you
know
we
really
we
really
need
to,
and
what
I
really
realized
quickly
is
that
we
need
a
better
plan
and
to
have
a
better
plan.
We
need
someone
dedicated
to
that
the
plan
and
we're
like
councilmember
wink,
said
working
with
all
the
different
staff.
G
Members
and
I
know
I'm
sure
all
of
us
were
calling
and
emailing
and
asking
Eric
this,
let
alone
all
the
citizens
and
all
the
staff,
and
you
know
that's
a
lot
to
ask
a
person
to
who
doesn't
have
that
dedicated
role
to
fill
in
kind
of
a
emergency
situations.
So
I
think
you
know
the
fact
that
council
didn't
know
our
specific
roles
probably
didn't
help
anything.
We
were
all
just
trying
to
help
which
wasn't
sure
what
to
do,
but
I
think
we
clearly
need
a
better
plan.
G
H
You
I
don't
want
to
sound
too
much
like
an
echo
chamber,
but
they're
probably
going
to.
Let
me
touch
on
some
of
the
things
the
other
folks
mentioned.
I
think
you
know
the
first
thing
that
I
heard
in
that
initial
moment.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
overlooked.
The
most
was
the
human
element
of
this
and
that
we
weren't
gonna
solve
any
problems
that
next
day,
but
we
should
have
been
in
person
somebody
something
from
Council
from
city
staff
knocking
on
every
door
within
that
several
block
radius.
H
Just
so
somebody
came
by
and
left
a
card
and
we
fell
short
there.
I
certainly
am
accountable
for
that
as
well.
So
I
think
that
would
have
been
one
of
the
biggest
components.
We
certainly
need
that
central
point
of
contact
as
well,
who
could
have
said
Dave
quest,
has
been
to
that
blog
showing
finding
that
block.
You
know
staff
members
been
to
that
block.
It
was
very
fragmented
and
I
know
it
was
just
a
series
of
texts
and
phone
calls
and
it
really
was
a
game
for
telephone,
essentially
and
I.
H
H
So
business
is
a
volunteer,
beat
the
city
to
getting
dumpsters
out
and
that
just
alludes
to
the
larger
plan
and
the
response
time
that
we
really
need
to
have
in
place.
I
do
still
feel
like
we're,
really
picking
up
the
pieces
and
we're
just
on
the
early
early
and
of
recovery.
I'm,
not
sure
if
you
guys
got
rain
this
past
Saturday,
but
disturbing
in
my
house
called
10:30
11:00.
My
heart
drops
anymore,
I
mean
I.
H
I
myself
was
nervous
and
I
know
again
we're
still
putting
things
together
and
so
I
got
a
little
nervous
myself
to
the
point.
We
need
to
have
a
collective
list
of
who
can
folks
reach
out
to
its
homeowners.
I
wonder
if
we
have
one
too,
as
a
governmental
agency
and
I
know,
there
was
a
lot
of
work
done
by
city
staff
reaching
out
to
FEMA,
County
resources
etc.
H
But
do
we
have
these
folks
on
speed
dial
that
as
soon
as
these
things
are
occurring,
we're
reaching
out
to
them
so
again,
I
think
we're
still
on
the
very
front
end
up
getting
this
figured
out
not
only
picking
up
the
pieces
of
what
just
happened,
but
hopefully
again,
mitigating
or
preventing
any
future
problems
we
have
there
and
throughout
the
community.
This
is
one
thing
that
can
go
wrong
and
there's
hundreds
is
everybody
has
alluded
to
so
plenty
of
lessons
learned,
I,
I,
think
we've
got
a
long
road
ahead
of
us.
H
F
One
of
the
citizens
affected
by
this
on
their
property
brought
to
our
attention
that
we
did.
We
did
have
a
plan
and
we
did.
We
do
have
a
person
who's
already
designated
as
that
in
any
plan,
any
person
we
put
in
no
matter
how
dedicated
we
call
them
if
we
don't
follow
the
plan,
if
we
don't
examine
it
and
assess
what's
going
on
and
city
managers,
have
a
rough
job
and
I
agree
with
that,
but
they
are
the
central
point,
as
is
the
mayor
city
manager.
F
Keck
has
said
several
times
that
in
his
previous
cities
he
was
the
point
for
that
person.
He
was
the
emergency
person.
It's
not
unlike
when
we
had
situations
happen
before
they
are
the
point
person
they
direct
the
nine
directors
at
that
time
that
we
had
and
then
each
one
has
a
role,
but
any
plan
that
you
have
in
place
is
only
as
good
is
that
you
know
what
the
plan
is
and
that
you
have
some
kind
of
accountability
to
it.
F
F
It
does,
but
we
can't
ignore
the
fact
that
we
had
one
out
there
and
whether
we
followed
it
or
not,
is
something
that
I
had
hoped
that
we
would
have
a
little
bit
more
a
discussion
on
and
on
how
we
followed,
through
with
that
plan,
whether
there
was
an
assessment
of
it,
whether
it
was
training
for
it
and
then
how
could
we
do
better
from
there?
Otherwise,
how
we're
going
to
do
is
get
an
emergency
manager
and
pay.
F
Somebody
did
do
a
job
that,
while
time
passes
and
no
emergency
happens,
things
fall
through
the
cracks
and
people.
Don't
people,
don't
you
know,
exercise
it
or
plan
for
it
or
do
those
preparedness,
drills
and
stuff.
That
can
happen
again
whether
we
have
a
dedicated
person
or
not.
We
had
somebody
listed
there.
We
had
a
plan
on
the
website.
The
citizens
found
it
and
they
came
in
complained
to
us
that
we
didn't
follow.
F
That
and
I
think
that
we
should
make
sure
that
that's
made
available
to
everybody
and
try
and
maybe
make
that
to
foundation
of
where
we
go
to
moving
forward.
I.
Think
that
if
it's
too
much
for
one
person-
and
maybe
we
should
pony
up
at
the
other
other
cities,
maybe
we
should
have
marva
of
a
collaborative
agreement,
told
each
other
accountable
on
how
we're
moving
forward
with
things.
And
maybe
it
would
give
that
position
more
to
do
if
they're
involved
in
in
other
communities,
but
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
we
didn't
bring
forward.
F
What
we
already
had
in
place,
because
I
don't
like
giving
the
impression
that
we
had
absolutely
nothing
like.
We
were
totally
like
ostriches
with
our
head
in
the
sand.
Had
nobody
dead
designated
as
as
that
person
in
our
information
on
the
website,
that
is,
the
farm
marshal
and
the
Charter
also
lists
out
in
certain
emergencies.
F
I
think
if
it
goes
far
enough
that
the
mayor
does
have
additional
powers
in
those
situations,
not
in
the
other
time,
but
in
those
situations,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
that
we're
aware
of
that
I'd
great
I'm.
Very
grateful
and
the
people
that
are
out
there
were
very
grateful
for
the
council.
Members
had
spent
the
time
out
there.
You
were
not
in
interference,
you
were
not
unwelcome,
you
were.
F
It
was
desperately
needed
what
you
did
and
if
that
void
was
filled
by
the
work
that
you
did
because
there
was
a
void
existing.
Then
we
need
to
address
that
and
how
we
can
do
that
better,
but
it
was
very
much
appreciated
what
was
done.
I
really
appreciated
that
the
Public
Works
Department
came
forward
and
attended
my
meeting
on
Saturday,
but
it
did
start
even
for
me.
F
It
started
to
become
painfully
aware
that
there
was
an
abyss
that
was
filling
up
with
whoever
was
willing
to
kind
of
do
the
work
and
those
people
appreciated
as
councilmember
Martinez
and
councilmember
wink
brought
up.
They
appreciated
the
consistency
of
information
from
somebody
from
the
city
and
as
a
director,
so
I
hope
that
when
we
go
forward
with
this,
that
we
can
at
least
start
with
the
plan
that
we
presented
to
the
public
and
had
on
our
on
our
website
where
we
fell
short
with
that
and
if
we're
not.
F
So
I'd
like
a
little
bit
more
conversation
on
that
as
we're
moving
forward,
because
I,
don't
think
just
having
a
dedicated
person
is,
is
really
the
answer
to
it.
It
really
takes
a
little
bit
more
thought
and
input
from
all
of
us
and
I
would
like
that
to
start
with,
where
we
already
were,
and
what
we
already
presented
to
the
public
Thank.
E
You
know
one
of
the
comments
that
I
made
to
you
about
my
concern.
There
was
that
we
maybe
should
be
able
to
arrange
the
SOPs
or
the
standard
operating
procedures
from
some
of
the
other
cities
that
are
near
us
that
are
facing
the
same
type
of
issues
that
we
are
and
obviously
just
tailor
it
to
suit
the
needs
of
Englewood.
E
But
obviously
we
just
want
to
have
more
conversation
on
that
before
we
make
a
final
approval
on
that
that
what
I
did
experience
during
you
know,
the
days
after
the
flood
were
within
the
district,
one
was
around
the
Yale
and
Washington
and
really
the
the
floodplain
area,
the
designation
within
Englewood.
They
did
receive
flooding.
E
Obviously,
after
the
fact
that
was
a
lot
of
sand
and
debris
in
there
and
I
know,
we
talked
about
an
asset
management
system
and
we
do
have
one
in
place
that
can
track
down
to
that
level,
so
obviously
moving
forward
and
having
that
trap
that
type
of
track
ability
and
visibility
for
for
us.
So
we
can
actually
state
that
what
our
constituents
would
be
great
and
also
want
to
echo
in
terms
of
flood
insurance.
E
There's
still
a
lot
of
confusion
around
the
flood
insurance
within
district
1
and
I
know
that
at
least
within
the
floodplain
designation.
There's
a
lot
of
confusion
about
what
that
really
means
and
so
having
a
meeting
with
Public
Works
and
urban
drainage.
Whoever
needs
to
be
involved,
but
there's
a
lot
of
questions
coming
from
my
constituents
about
that.
That'll
really
like
to
clear
up
in
the
near
future:
oh
one
other
thing,
but
we
do
border
demmer.
The
one
thing
that
I
did
notice
is
that
we
do
have
to
coordinate
with
Denver.
E
There
were
storm
drains
that
were
not
clean
by
Denver
even
a
week
after
the
fact,
and
so
it
was
brought
to
our
attention.
I
brought
it
to
your
attention,
I
believe
the
Monday
after
and
I
believe
them
or
did
go
out
a
little
bit
afterwards,
but
just
the
coordination
with
Denver
presented
actually
clean
their
storm
drains
because
on
yellow
in
Washington
there
is
a
storm
drain
that
leads
into
Harvard
gold.
That
was
completely
backed
up
with
debris,
tree
branches
and
once
that
clogged
up
back
in
jail
or
excuse
me
into
Washington
into
the
neighborhood.
C
So
I
wanted
to
follow
up
with
just
a
couple
more
things
that
I
did
here.
That
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
thought
some
would
get
said.
Most
of
them
did,
but
those
that
I
did
speak
to
after
I
think
you
all
know
that
I
was
out
of
town,
starting
on
what
4:00
a.m.
on
Friday
morning
for
a
family
reunion
for
my
in-laws
65th
wedding
anniversary.
C
I
think
what
I've
heard
here
tonight
really
resonates
well
with
me
and
what
I
heard
from
residents
about
needing
some
central
place
to
even
know
they
could
call
some
people
that
I
followed
up
with
the
week
later,
when
I
went
from
house
to
house
and
left
my
card
said
they
didn't
even
think
about
calling
the
city,
and
so
what
there's
some
some
kind
of
emergency
number
that
we
need
to
help.
Our
citizens
know
where
they
can
get
some
support.
C
Even
if
it
isn't
something
the
city
will
do
when
we
know
that
churches
stepped
up
right
away
with
food,
whatever
they're
willing
to
wash
clothes,
if,
if
mister
Krista
could
have
all
done,
but
there
are
people
who
are
willing
to
do
some
things
and
they
think
if
we
had
a
number
that
would
go
along
with
this
I
think
remember:
Barrentine
suggested
having
this.
You
know
taking
what
it's
currently
on
our
website,
which
I
was
fully
not
aware
of
nor
I.
C
Think
most
of
us
and
take
that
in
the
meantime,
and
figure
out
what
we're
doing
so
that
as
we
go
into
this
idea
of
having
a
devoted
person,
it
cannot
be
you
for
anything.
Most
of
us
believe
the
other
things
that
I
heard
from
residences
are
very
concerned
about
the
alleys
and
trash.
That's
strewn
and
everything
did
get
swept
I
mean
the
videos
that
I've
seen
and
we
all
have
seen
them
since
things
anything
that
was
laying
out
got,
swept
away.
You
can't
protect
all
of
those
things.
C
You
could
have
a
tripe
out
or
whatever,
and
it
just
happens,
but
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
coordinated
effort,
and
maybe
the
code
Advisory
Committee
will
really
help
us
think
that
through
on
some
ways
we
can
self
manage.
So
it's
not
always
just
code
people
going
around
telling
people
to
do
things,
but
I
think
that
emergency
number
in
a
place
I
think
Toni
Arnoldi
did
a
great
job
of
pulling
some
things
together
and
the
list
got
longer
and
longer,
but
a
place.
C
The
right
kind
of
a
go
to
emergency
place
on
our
website
and
a
number
might
really
be
helpful
with
that
as
well.
But
all
of
that
is
undergirded
by
I.
Think
what
councilman
request
I
said
of
that
that
human
connection
doesn't
matter
what's
on
your
website,
because
nobody
can
even
get
on
to
a
computer
or
maybe
even
figure
out
how
to
do
the
phone
thing
in
the
midst
of
an
emergency
so
figuring
out.
How
do
we
mobilize
ourselves
and
others
to
get
out
right
away?
C
B
I
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
kinds
of
my
requests
have
said
about
the
human
element.
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
way
for
all
of
us
to
know
the
far-reaching
effects
of
where
the
flood
went.
I
mean
I
do
believe.
It
was
obvious
in
the
home
where
there
was
a
fatality,
because
that
hits
the
news,
and
so
it
was
the
evening
after
the
flood.
B
They
they
weren't
asking
for
a
whole
lot.
I
think
they
just
wanted
somebody
to
care,
but
the
one
thing
that
had
taken
a
lot
of
stuff
out
of
their
houses-
carpets
and
things
like
that
and
they
needed
they
just
needed-
that
to
be
picked
up
and
so
I
did
contact
the
city
manager
and-
and
we
talked
about
first
about
you-
know,
sending
out
Public
Works
to
pick
up
the
stuff.
And
then
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
we
needed
trash,
bins
and
I.
B
Think
perhaps
that
is
one
thing
that
the
city
needs
to
be
prepared
to
to
put
out
right
away
immediately,
because
it's
really
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
not
just
the
citizens
and
and
it
would
help
them
I-
think
another
thing
that
the
city
could
do
is
to
develop
a
resource
list.
I
mean
and
kind
of
what
I'm
thinking
is
when
we
have
the
tri-cities
meeting,
the
city
of
Littleton
went
out
and
identified
all
the
resources
and
generated
this
resource
list,
and
we're
taught
we're
talking
about
homelessness
there,
but
I
think
it's.
B
The
city's
responsibility
would
be
if
churches
are
going
to
be
available
for
health,
and
things
like
that.
We
should
develop
a
resource
list
for
the
citizens.
I
agree
with
councilmember
Barrentine
I
am
NOT
certain
that
we
need
an
emergency
manager.
I
believe
the
way
because
of
the
size
of
our
city,
I,
believe
and
the
way
it's
set
up.
B
The
city
manager
or
the
assistant
city
manager
could
fill
that
position,
and
then
we
have
department
heads
because
you
are
working
very
closely
with
Public,
Works
and,
and
things
like
that,
I
think
what
is
on
the
website
is
a
good
outline,
whether
it's
you,
whether
it's
the
fire
marshal.
It
also
indicates
that
the
police,
department
and
Department
coordinates
the
city
response.
I.
B
You
may
work
yourself
out
of
a
position
because
during
an
emergency
it
will
be
the
emergency
manager
that
everyone
is
going
to
and
and
so
I
think
and
I
mean
before
when
we
talked
about
this
a
couple
of
months
ago,
a
lot
of
whenever
there's
a
need
for
an
emergency
manager,
a
lot
of
the
situations
that
are
created,
it
really
does
need
to
be
the
fire
department.
I
mean
in
most
cities.
That's
the
department
that
that
would
be
in
charge.
B
However,
we
don't
have
our
own
fire
department,
so
I
think
that's
one
thing
that
we
need
to
consider,
but
but
I
think
I
think.
Perhaps
this
is
a
time
when
we
as
a
city
could
begin
to
work
together.
Better
I
mean
City
Council
also,
but
the
truth
is
had
people
not
called
me
so
I
spent
the
morning
out
on
West,
Radcliffe
and
I
went
home
to
get
lunch
and
my
phone
rang
again,
and
it
was
somebody
from
Bannock
and
and
I
thought.
B
I
don't
want
to
do
this,
but
I
thought
okay,
I'm
going
so
I
spent.
You
know
three
or
four
hours
over
there
and
it's
important
for
us
to
be
available,
but
unless
people
call
the
council
members
a
lot
of
times,
we
wouldn't
know
there
was
a
problem
and
so
I
agree
with
you
as
a
council.
We
could
work
together,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
ought
to
do.
B
F
Tomorrow,
Barrentine
think
I
just
have
a
quick
point
of
information.
Somebody
was
misunderstood
that
just
because
we
got
rid
of
our
fire
department
that
we
no
longer
had
a
fire
marshal,
we
do
have
a
fire
marshal
and
it
was
the
fire
marshal
who
was
designated
and
so
in
thinking
that
the
fire
department
went
away
that
all
of
a
sudden
that
plan
was
null
and
void.
We
were
not
that
unprepared
or
that
foolish
not
to
have
somebody
at
least
designated
as
the
point
person.
C
A
Thanks
for
all
your
comments
tonight,
I
think,
given
what
I've
learned
on
the
topic
I
think
it's
clear
that
that
we
all
need
some
more
edification
on
just
what
the
role
of
the
emergency
manager
entails.
Just
so
we
can
understand,
detail,
look
forward
to
us
all,
getting
that
in
for
me
being
a
little
bit
more
price.
C
You
and
councilmembers,
my
hunch,
is
that
you
have
even
more
information,
I,
think
House
member
wink
said
she
has
pages
I
have
some.
You
know
really
specific
things
around
this,
that
I
heard
when
I
was
walking
around
so
if
you
can
collect
those
and
send
them
to
the
city
manager
so
that
we
we
are
gathering
those
all
in
one
place
as
we
consider
what
our
next
steps
are.
That
would
be
really
helpful.
I
think
you
will
take
a
few
minutes
of
a
break
and
then
start
in
next
door
in
five
minutes.