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A
A
Excuse
me:
I'm
fighting
a
little
cold
or
getting
over
a
cold,
so
hopefully
I'm
not
hacking
here
all
day
so
but
welcome
I'm,
Bill,
vichek
I'm,
a
senior
principal
with
dig
studio,
we're
land
planners
and
urban
designers
and
I
have
the
envious
job
of
trying
to
keep
us
on
track
and
on
schedule
today.
So
I
know
we're
starting
five
minutes
late,
but
I'm
sure
we
can
power
through
this.
We've
got
a
lot
to
go
over
and
I
know.
A
Mayor
Sierra
said:
if
we
don't
get
through
this
he's
going
to
call
a
special
session
tomorrow,
around
3
30
and
have
us
all
come
back.
No
one's
got
anything
going
on
tomorrow
at
3
30.
Do
you
all
right
but
hoping
this
is
a
very
interactive
session
today
and
let's
say
we
have
a
lot
to
go
through,
but
I'm,
confident
that
this
group
will
have
a
lot
of
good,
creative
collaborative
ideas.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Welcome
everyone.
So
a
little
bit
more
about
our
process.
Today,
you
all
have
a
detailed
agenda
at
your
table
seat,
but
in
terms
of
the
general
structure
of
what
we're
going
to
cover,
we
basically
have
nine
sections
set
up
to
date
to
cover
these
topics
and
at
the
end
of
each
one
of
these
sections,
we'll
have
an
opportunity
for
dialogue.
A
So
if
we
can
kind
of
keep
our
questions
in
conversation,
promise
they're
all
not
going
to
be
too
long,
but
we'll
have
that
moment
at
the
end
of
each
section
to
have
interaction.
So
if
you
please
hold
again
questions
to
those
pause
points,
if
you
will,
we
also
have
some
scheduled
breaks
scheduled
in
at
mid-morning.
We
have
lunch
and
then
we
also
have
a
break
in
the
afternoon,
but
if
at
any
time
you
need
to
get
up
and
go
take
care
of
a
restroom
break.
A
T
Thank
you,
Bill
geez,
impressive,
getting
all
three
stakeholder
groups
here
in
total,
we
have
one
missing
member
Blake,
Calvert
and
he's
flying
in
this
morning
and
will
join
us
a
bit
later
so
welcome
again
to
the
three
stakeholder
groups
and
they
are
the
city
council
for
the
city
of
Inglewood,
the
Englewood
Downtown,
Development,
Authority
and
l
r
partners
and
we'll
explain
kind
of
the
relative
roles
as
we
go
along,
but
again
on
behalf
of
city
and
DVA
staff
and
Consultants.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
T
This
joint
planning
session
is
a
reset
opportunity
following
the
withdrawal
of
the
city's
Master
development
partner,
SKB
triba
late
last
year,
as
you'll
remember,
they
were
the
Redevelopment
partner
for
the
city
center
Corps
area.
I.
Think
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
in
these
public
private
Partnerships,
it's
not
at
all
unusual
to
work
through
one
two,
three
four
or
more
potential
development
Partners
before
the
local
municipality
finds
the
right
match,
and
this
is
often
related
to
the
education
and
consensus
building
process
with
the
stakeholders.
T
T
There
are
hard
copies
that
are
available
at
the
back.
If
you
care
to
refer
to
that
during
the
course
of
the
day,
the
constraints
also
underscore
the
need
for
a
master
developer,
to
bring
their
coordination,
expertise,
project
management
and
expertise
and,
of
course,
a
lot
of
project
capital,
and
so
that's
also
very
much
of
a
given
for
this
situation,
and
we
can
discuss
that
as
needed.
T
That
party,
the
preferred
Master,
developer
and
buyer
would
still
have
to
go
through
the
process
of
vetting
their
Redevelopment
plans
with
all
three
entities:
city
council,
DDA
board,
as
well
as
L
and
r,
without
a
concept
plan
and
we'll
let
the
l,
r
Representatives
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this.
During
the
course
of
the
day,
it's
most
likely
that
they
would
sell
that
their
property,
the
property
in
red
outright
that
would
follow
most
likely
some
lease-up
activities,
but
because
of
the
lease
up
activities
and
because
of
the
likely
buyers
for
that
property.
T
A
Thanks
Dan,
so
what
we're
going
to
focus
on
today,
as
Dan
mentioned,
is
really
on
this
diagram
here
kind
of
the
elements
on
the
left
side,
collaboration,
consensus
and
a
revised
vision
for
the
plan
and
more
in
the
physical
sense
of
that.
You
know
where
streets
where,
where
buildings
go
where's
open
space,
there
are
all
these
other
components
that
feed
into
successful
implementation
of
that
Vision,
but
you're,
more
legal
and
financial,
such
as
the
ground,
lease
purchase,
sale
agreement,
development
agreements,
Etc
and
those
will
have
some
secondary
influence
or
input
today.
A
But
but
I
wanted
to
stress
so
that
really
our
time
with
you
all
today
is
focusing
more
on
the
physical
aspects
of
the
plan.
But
it's
very
important
for
you
to
all
understand
the
different
background
components
that
go
into
the
overall
vision
and
the
next
steps
here.
So
next,
please
so
so
our
our
Redevelopment
process
diagram
here
is
really
just
trying
to
say
very
simply
that
there
are.
A
The
broader
Community
input
public
input
into
this
process,
but
the
idea
is
that
these
collaborators
are
those
that
are
really
kind
of
in
our
challenge
here
today
is
kind
of
vision
that
new
goal
or
Envision
the
actions
that
are
needed
to
support
the
new
goal,
which
Dan
again,
is
very
well
articulated
in
the
briefing
memo
about
creating
a
successful
Redevelopment
of
City
Center.
You
know
the
big
overall
overarching
goal,
and
to
do
that,
you
know
we've
kind
of
viewed
these
component
pieces
as
kind
of
building
blocks.
What
are
the?
A
A
But
we
broke
these
out
into
these
building
blocks
of
physical
attributes
on
the
left,
so
things
like
the
open
space
building
density,
et
cetera
the
community
benefits
in
terms
of
what
is
local
identity,
key
components
of
a
plan
such
as
affordable
housing,
fiscal
and
and
economic
benefits.
And
then
the
last
kind
of
series
of
building
blocks
are
the
financial
and
legal
considerations
that
go
into
supporting
this
overall
goal
of
a
of
a
revised
new
plan
for
City
Center.
So
so
at
we'd,
stop
and
pause
at
these
break
sections.
A
So
I
want
to
just
stop
here
and
ask
if
anybody
has
any
questions
regarding
the
diagrams
anything
that
was
in
Dan's
briefing
memo
anything
about
the
you
know,
past
steps
of
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today
today.
So
I'll
just
pause
there
and
see
if
there's
anything
else
that
we're
missing
or
anybody
have
any
questions
about
this
so
far,.
A
U
P
A
Prior
up
until
really,
even
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we
were
doing
what
we
referred
to
as
a
series
of
listening
sessions
where
we
had
one-on-one
phone
calls
a
few
face-to-face
meetings
where
we
probably
not
everyone
in
terms
of
the
stakeholder
group
here,
but
a
good
portion
of
people
on
the
Edda
representatives
of
l
r,
as
well
as
city
council.
We
just
had
some
informal
questions
listening
with
them
particularly
focused
around
what
they
did
or
did
not
like
about
the
previous
SKB
plan.
P
A
T
T
Answer
your
question:
no
none
of
the
city
council
members
met
individually
with
dick
Studio.
You
may
remember
there
was
some
discussion
about
that.
It
was
hoped
that
that
could
have
been
orchestrated,
but
they
the
follow-up
plan.
The
backup
plan
was
for
them
to
collect
feedback
from
Council
Members
at
Council
retreat.
So
there
were
no
individual
meetings.
Yeah
I.
V
A
C
I
have
a
thought
about
this
graphic.
That's
on
the
screen
right
now.
I
think
that
the
Venn
diagram
is
lovely
and
it
shows
kind
of
what's
happening
in
this
meeting
and
throughout
the
behind
like
the
process,
but
the
public
input
I
think
we
need
to
remember
that
the
community
is
the
primary
stakeholder
in
this,
and
so
I
would
invite
all
of
us
to
really
focus
on
how
that
overlays,
with
everything
that
we're
doing
so
what
the
public
thinks
is
very
important
to
the
process.
Yeah.
A
R
I
greatly
value
the
the
point:
Trump
Erica,
I'm,
hoping
and
sort
of
thinking
that
the
the
premise
behind
the
Venn
diagram
with
the
piece
of
the
public
input,
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
on
the
side,
is
absolutely
supporting
the
understanding
that
the
city
of
Englewood
to
include
the
seven
council
members
and
the
leadership
team
are
absolutely
representing
the
interests
of
the
public
and
so
I.
Just
don't
want
that
notion
to
be
lost
that
that
we
do
we
do
Drive
our
decisions
and
our
and
any
you
know
the
the
support
of
any
methodology.
R
We
apply
to
the
decisions
we
make
from
what
the
public
wants
and
yeah.
So
maybe
maybe
the
diagram
can
be
a
little
bit
modified,
but
but
I
just
want
to
add
that
and
you're
absolutely
right,
but
I
I
do
that's
my
feeling,
as
a
council
member,
that
that
was
absolutely
thought
of
in
that
piece
of
it.
Yeah
thanks.
B
Two
groups
of
stakeholders
that
are
identified
on
this
diagram,
RTD
and
Walmart
that
aren't
present
today
is.
Is
there
a
reason
for
that
or
have
we
had
discussions
with
them,
or
are
we
waiting
to
get
a
plan
before
we
present
it
to
them?
If
we
need
their
buy-in,
it
seems
like
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
have
early
discussions
with
them.
A
S
A
All
right
anything
else
comments
on
this.
Okay,
let's
move
along
I
love.
This
quote
from
Jan
gell!
It's!
If
you
don't
know
him
he's
kind
of
one
of
the
leading
planners
in
the
world
today
and
and
I
thought
this
was
I
could
have
an
appropriate
statement
for
what
we
hoped.
Vision,
that
to
be
part
of
downtown
Inglewood
can
become
we're.
All
downtown
England
can
can
become
okay,
all
right,
so
listening
session
feedback.
A
This
is
and
again
my
my
apologies
I'm
speaking
about
talking
individually
with
council
members.
We
did
not
do
that,
but
we
did
talk
with
members
of
of
Edda
and
lnr,
and
this
was
the
feedback
in
terms
of
a
summary
form
of
what
we
heard
and
I've
actually
got
some
some
breaking
news
for
you
here,
which
was
there,
was
a
lot
of
consensus
about
these
points,
and
there
was
very
few
Divergent
points
of
view.
A
I
would
say
that
you're
all
very
much
in
alignment
in
terms
of
what
you
would
like
to
see.
The
next
iteration
and
version
of
City
Center
become,
and
if
there
was
one
kind
of
really
clear
theme,
that
emerged
was
really
that
first
bullet
under
process
and
financing
was
the
need
for
more
collaboration,
and
there
was
a
sense
that
people
weren't
entities
groups
weren't
talking
to
one
another,
and
that
includes
you,
know
the
the
land
landowner
to
Edda,
to
the
city,
to
the
community,
to
really
a
primary
focus,
I.
A
A
So
by
far
that
was
one
of
the
top
themes
that
emerged
from
all
the
things
we
heard
from
those
individual
listening
sessions,
timing
and
the
need
for
I
would
say
patience,
kind
of
balanced
with
urgency
in
terms
of
how
this
process
moves
along
was
another
key
kind
of
element
of
feedback
that
we
heard
of
how
this
fast
or
how
slow
this
process
works
together
and
that
the
need
of
interested
parties
on
both
sides
to
make
that
kind
of
come
together.
Make
that
work.
A
A
What
is
this
elusive
sense
of
Englewood
is,
and
there
was
there
was
a
lot
of
things
of
looking
to
the
past,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
themes
or
messages
of
saying
looking
to
the
Future
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
but
there
was
certainly
a
sense
of
a
spirit
and
a
character
of
Englewood
that
everybody
was
very
proud
of
a
highly
visible
place.
That
provides
a
reason
to
visit.
A
Mobility
and
the
need
for
connections
was
again
a
very
clear
theme
in
terms
of
not
thinking
of
City
Center
as
a
bubble
and
it's
you
know
you
access
it
off
hand
and
you
get
off
of
Santa
Fe,
but
think
about
how
it
works
together
and
stretches
All
the
Way
East
not
only
to
South
Broadway
but
beyond.
When
you
get
to
the
Medical
District,
certainly
the
need
for
parking
strategy
that
entails
the
realities
of
what's
going
on
with
RTD
and
in
current
structure
of
that
agreement.
A
But
the
fact
that
there
is
just
a
lot
of
surface
parking
on
the
on
the
city
center
site
itself.
We
see
a
great
opportunity,
and
people
picked
up
on
this
as
well
in
terms
of
leveraging
open
space
and
connectivity
to
Platte
River
Trail
to
Little
Dry
Creek,
that
that
is,
you
know.
That
is
a
real
key
component.
That
people
are
looking
for
in
urban
living
today
is
is
open
space
and
Trail
connectivity
and.
U
A
A
That
was
definitely
one
of
the
very
top
consensus
themes
and
the
need
to
think
about
City,
Center
being
more
dense.
That
there's
an
opportunity
here
that
you
know
doesn't
come
along
in
a
lot
a
lot
of
cities,
quite
frankly,
from
who
we
do
this
work
in
other
places,
where
you
have
some
more
Consolidated
land
ownership
or
control
by
a
few
entities
that
allows
for
the
potential
of
thinking
about
more
density,
and
we
all
are
related
to
the
the
point
above
about
affordability.
A
I
think
we're
all
very
keenly
aware
of
the
need
for
more
affordable
housing,
not
just
in
Englewood
but
in
in
the
Denver
Metroplex
as
a
whole,
and
then
I
would
say
that
there
was
almost
unanimous
consensus
on
this
building
that
it
was
time
to
move
on
that
the
use
and
the
efficiency.
And
this
and
the.
A
An
open
space,
a
plaza
something
that
is
iconic
to
the
community,
is
a
is
one
of
those
postcard
images
of
when
you
think
about
Englewood
in
the
next.
You
know
10
years,
you
know
you
might
think
of
this
park.
This
Fountain,
this
art
show
this.
You
know
this
opportunity
of
coming
coming
together
and
finding
a
really
Community
focused
space.
A
So
those
were
the
the
very
they're
not
they're,
certainly
not
simple,
because
then
they're
all
layered
together,
but
but
again
they
were
almost
unanimous
in
terms
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
people
in
terms
of
the
top
goals
and
visions
of
what
we,
what
we'd
like
to
see
so
pause
here.
What
else
is
missing
from
from
this
list?
A
G
A
We're
going
to
talk
about
that
when
we
get
to
the
land
use
but
specific
to
like
again
again
just
what
we
heard
I
I
would
say
we're,
probably
maybe
a
little
split
in
terms
of
what
the
you
know.
What
the
individual
said
about
hotel,
no
Hotel
I
mean
some
sought
benefit
of
it.
Some
thought
it
should
be
in
the
Medical
District.
A
T
S
Okay,
I'll
take
that
we'd
like
to
move
faster
than
slower.
This
property
has
not
been
thriving,
to
say
the
least
over
the
last
several
years,
get
to
shovels
in
the
ground
and
a
different
iteration
of
it
I
think
is
the
better
the
session
you
know,
site
plan
is
going
to
be
important
to
us
to
understand
what
it
is
that
the
vision
is
for
the
city
and
we
we
think
's
feasible,
yeah,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
realistic,
feasible
and
understand
you
know
if
it
is
what
the
market
will
be
for
that
and
I
think
that's.
S
Our
goal
today
is
to
work
on
a
site
plan
that
collaboratively,
we
agree,
will
work
for
the
future
and
if
it
is
something
we
will
we'll
try
to
push
forward
with
working
towards
finding
that
future
Master
developer
to
build
and
start
sooner
than
later,
so
we're
not.
We
don't
want
to
continue
to
hold
it
the
way
it
has
been
for
a
long
time.
That's
why
we're
here
on
a
Saturday.
You
know
we
want
to
push
this
forward
so.
K
To
weigh
in
a
little
bit
on
some
of
these
since
city
council
didn't
didn't
meet
with
these
listening
sessions,
which
I
think
was
the
right
decision,
but
we
also
haven't.
You
know,
really
had
a
chance
to
weigh
in
and
I
see
a
couple
of
things
here
that
I
would
I
would
tweak
just
a
little
bit
and
I
think
you
can
put
me
on
the
you
said
he
had
almost
unanimous
consensus
from
the
DDA
on
new
relocating
city
hall
or
demoing.
K
Because
that's
it's
a
money,
you
know
potential
Money
Saver
and
then
it's
also
preserving
a
historical
building.
That
doesn't
mean
that
it's
going
to
be
the
best
plan
or
the
one
we
select,
but
in
terms
of
my
own
evaluation
of
it,
somebody
sends
in
a
workable
plan
that
keeps
this
building
I.
Think
that's
great
and
I
I
don't
want
to
just
decide
up
front
before
we
go
to
through
the
national
search
that
that's
off
the
table.
K
We're
planning
on
demoing
this
building,
because
I
don't
think
this
I,
don't
think
the
citizens
of
Inglewood
would
be
happy
with
that
idea.
But
if
we
did
do
a
national
search
and
we
got
no,
you
know
no
concept
plans
back.
That
included
this
building,
we'd
say:
hey.
We
wanted
to
keep
it,
but
but
all
our
potential
Redevelopment
Partners
just
said
no,
that's
not
not
on
the
table.
That's
that's!
K
What
I
want
to
be
able
to
tell
the
citizens
of
Inglewood
is
we
tried
to
find
somebody
who
could
who
could
reuse
this
building
in
the
future?
So
and
I
also
think
the
potential
there
of
reducing
the
public
investment
costs
by
not
demoing
the
building?
That's
an
expensive
process,
plus
all
the
roads
that
would
have
to
be
rebuilt
within
this
area.
There's
a
there's
a
potential
there
and
I
I,
don't
want
to
just
write
that
off
from
the
very
beginning.
K
The
other
thing
I
see
on
here
is
the
the
parking
strategy
that
accommodates
development
and
RTD.
I
would
say
yes
to
that,
but
would
add
that
minimizes
the
required
parking
we
have
I
think
under
you
know
the
current
RTD
requirement,
and
potentially
even
the
parking
requirements
that
we
have
in
our
Zoning
for
this
District
are
are
too
high
and
I
would
like
to
absolutely
minimize
the
amount
make
this
a
super
walkable
area
we
do
need.
K
You
know,
obviously
we're
going
to
need
some
parking,
but
how
do
we
get
that
down
because
the
number
one
that's
one
again
it
makes
for
a
more
walkable,
more
enjoyable
area,
but
also
it's
going
to
reduce
our
you
know
reduce
our
final
cost
if
we
don't
have
to
put
in
a
huge
parking
structure.
So
those
are
my
two
tweaks,
otherwise
I
I
agree
with
with
you
know,
with
all
of
this
and
I
would
I'd
love
to
you
know,
I'd
love
to
hear
other
people
weigh
in
on
those
two
issues
or
any
others.
G
B
I
think
one
of
my
primary
concerns
is
good
stewardship
of
public
assets
and
I
largely
can
concur
with
my
colleague,
councilmember
Anderson,
with
the
exception
of
parking,
a
discussion
that
we've
had
a
number
of
times
we're
just
not
on
the
same
page.
There
I'm
willing
to
hear
more
about
it,
but
I
like
to
go
places
where
I
can
park.
So
that's
just
a
personal
preference.
We
have
a
city
hall
that
we're
sitting
in
right
now
that
the
citizens
just
spent
25
years
paying
off
and
we
don't
have
debt
on
it.
D
Opinion
on
the
building-
that's
different
than
my
colleagues
I
think
this
is
really
a
great
building
site
and
building
for
a
department
store
which
it
was
built
for,
and
it
doesn't
lay
out
very
well
for
offices.
It
is
not
very
efficient
and
I
think
there's
better
uses
that
could
come
along
for
this
particular
site,
much
better
uses,
and
so
a
relocation
next
door
or
something
else
would
be
much
much
more
efficient
and
over
time,
a
whole
lot
more
efficient.
Just
on
utilities.
That
sort
of
thing
so
I
have
a
little
different
of
opinion
on
it.
P
I
would
like
to
weigh
in
also
I
do
agree
with
the
Adaptive
reuse
and
the
fact
that
the
building
is
paid
off
and
the
citizens.
It
was
interesting
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
The
citizens
have
said
that
this
is
one
of
the
historic
buildings
in
Inglewood,
which
is
incredibly
sad
because
I
don't
see
it
as
a
historic
building,
but
in
essence
they're
right.
All
the
other
historical
buildings
in
the
city
have
been
torn
down,
and
so
I
would
lean
more
to
preserving
the
building.
P
I
believe
you
would
get
more
citizen
buy
into
that,
and
and
at
least
adaptive
reuse
and
I
would
like
to
weigh
in
on
the
parking
also
I
saw
in
the
plans
that
doing
building,
and
not
so
much
flat
ground
parking
I
would
be
open
for
that.
But
my
one
concern
in
not
providing
parking
relatively
close
to
this
area
is,
if
we're
doing
retail
spaces
on
the
bottom
floor,
if
there
is
no
parking,
people
will
not
come
from
outside
the
city
to
shop
here
and
that's
what
we
need.
P
U
T
Think,
just
for
all
the
stakeholders
consideration
over
the
balance
of
the
day,
I
just
like
to
reiterate
something
that
was
presented
in
the
SKB
tribe
concept
plans.
Two
key
elements:
one
is
because
this
building
was
originally
designed
as
a
department
store
structurally
there's,
not
very
much.
That
can
be
done
with
it
on
an
economic
basis.
It
that's
just
a
given
and
tribod
did
a
very
detailed
analysis
of
trying
to
break
this
building
into
different
uses,
which
has
been
something
that's
been
talked
about
in
the
community
and
as
a
practical
matter.
T
It's
really
not
feasible,
physically
or
or
cost
wise
more
important
than
that,
though,
I
think
to
keep
in
mind
the
building
in
the
garage
their
footprints
on
this
Civic
Center
site,
which
is
labeled
as
partial,
basically
unlock
the
vertical
development
potential
of
this
site,
which
unlocks
the
monetary
value
for
the
city,
which
unlocks
the
ability
to
build
this
as
a
really
vibrant
Redevelopment.
So
just
so
you
just
so
everybody's
aware,
as
we
keep
this
building.
T
Basically,
it
eliminates
most
of
the
Redevelopment
potential
of
this
block
and
arguably
then
it
it
starts
to
dismember
the
Redevelopment
of
the
city,
property
and
the
l
r
property
together.
That's
fine!
If
that's
a
value
judgment
of
the
council
and
the
edpa.
That's
fine
I
think
it's
just
really
important
to
keep
that
in
mind,
and
certainly
we
could
go
out
with
a
developer
RFP.
T
That
said,
as
an
alternative
Mr,
you
know
Mr
or
Mrs
developer
we'd
like
you
to
respond
to
the
city's
desire
to
look
at
alternatives
for
this
building,
and
is
there
any
way
that
you
could
develop
this
site
and
keep
the
building
perhaps
develop.
You
know
where
the
parking
structure
is,
but
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
stretch
just
so
that
we're
all
aware
of
that.
I.
K
I
want
to
just
weigh
in
on
that
again
I
understand
the
argument
and
I.
You
know.
If
that
turns
out
to
be
the
case,
then
that's
fine
I,
think
that
you
know
if
we're
starting
from
SKB
to
be
triba,
said
it's
not
going
to
work,
that's
different
from
putting
out
a
national
plan
that
says:
hey
any.
You
know
any
plans
that
that
can
keep
that
can
make
this
financially
productive
and
keep
the
Civic
Center
are
going
to
receive
specially
close
attention
because
I
think
maybe
there's
somebody
out
there
that
can
do
it.
K
You
know
obviously
SKB
tribe
didn't
think
they
could,
but
there
are
I
think
there
are
developers
out
there
who
who
specialize
in
that
and
I.
Don't
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
convinced
that
it
cuts
off
the
development
potential.
It
would
change
the
shapes
of
the
buildings
that
would
go
into
those
areas
and
require
some
different
structuring
of
the
roads
and
and
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
hey
I
think
it's
worth
a
try
to
put
that
out
there.
T
I
I
would
say:
Joe
certainly
get
structure
an
RFP
that
way,
but
we
as
time
allows
take
a
look
at
I.
Think
it's
sheet,
four
of
exhibit
three
to
the
briefing
memo.
It
shows
specifically
how
the
footprint
of
this
building
and
the
parking
struct
structure
overlaps.
The
vertical
development
that
had
been
proposed
on
site
you'll
see
that
essentially
it
it
eliminates.
B
U
B
L
L
That
I
think
that
you
know
city
hall
or
that
could
be
built
and
replaced
here,
and
so
I
I
think
that
it's
great
to
evaluate
all
the
different
Alternatives.
But
I
really
do
think
that,
if
we're
keeping
this
building
you're
limiting
the
Redevelopment
potential
and
the
scope
of
the
Redevelopment,
that
could
happen
in
the
area
and
I.
L
Think
that
you
know
the
reason
we're
all
gathered
here
today
is
to
find
a
master
redeveloper
to
bring
catalytic
development
that
changes
and
connects
the
area
and
flows
through
to
the
rest
of
the
city
and
with
this
building
remaining
will
be
a
limiting
factor
for
a
lot
of
those
parties.
So
I'm
just.
W
I
just
like
to
add
in
that
one
of
our
board's
key
priorities
is
to
respond
to
the
pressing
need
for
housing
opportunities
for
middle-income
workers
in
this
community
and
in
order
to
to
build
Workforce
housing
in
a
in
a
project
like
this.
It
typically
needs
to
be
done
on
publicly
owned
land,
because
there
are
trade-offs.
W
Housing
in
the
parcel
where
the
parking
structure
currently
is
typically,
it
would
occur
near
Transit
access,
because
you
want
your
workers
to
have
access
to
Transit.
But
you
know
one
trade-off
here
could
be
if,
if
this
building
is
redeveloped,
how
many
new
homes
for
rent
and
for
for
for
ownership
could
we
build
for
Area,
Teachers
nurses,
police
officers,
restaurant
managers
and
firefighters.
A
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
we,
this
afternoon
we're
actually
going
to
roll
out
the
plans
roll
out
the
trace
paper
and
we're
going
to
be
drawing,
and
some
of
those
drawing
Alternatives
will
take
into
consideration
all
this
feedback
for
getting
was
good
feedback
that
we're
getting
right
now.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
like
you
know
yet
to
come
today,
so
we're
going
to
have
that
opportunity
to
physically
begin
to
sketch
what
that
might
look
like
in
terms
of
this
feedback.
You
know
with
or
without
this
building.
A
A
There
are
some
vestiges
of
small
single-family
detached
housing,
some
little
vestiges
of
some
industrial
uses,
but
for
the
most
part,
the
site
back
in
1953
was
a
park
in
Little,
Dry
Creek
came
through
meandered
through
the
park
and
then
eventually
went
out
and
connected
to
the
plat
1993
40
years
later,
Cinderella
City
came
along
in
terms
of
you
know,
a
really
big,
bold
move
right
I
mean
that
was
the
the
Advent
of
people
moving
to
the
suburbs,
everybody
being
kind
of
automobile
based.
You
know
the
regional
mall.
A
So
you
know
at
the
time
that
was
a
you
know,
a
very
big
move
and
undertaking
when,
when
that
happened,
and
then
you
know
forward
from
that
from
the
closing
of
Cinderella
City
to
2000,
with
the
Advent
of
of
the
sense,
the
plan
that
we
have
today
of
City
centers,
which
is
keeping
of
this
building,
but
with
the
coming
of
Light
Rail
Tod,
really
became.
You
know
the
prominent
driver
of
the
site.
You
know
that
was
you
know.
This
was
really
viewed
on
a
national
basis.
A
It's
kind
of
a
model
for
what
Tod
could
become
back
in
2000
when
this
first
opened
up
I
think
people
would
maybe
think
differently
about
what
Tod
has
evolved
to
today
in
terms
of
the
importance
of
different
types
of
land
uses.
But
you
know
it
was
another
big
move
to
to
go
on
from
the
mall
reconfigure.
A
What
is
the
next
version
right?
What
is
City
Center
3.0?
You
know,
we
know
where
it's
come.
We
know
where
we're
at
what
does
it
look
like
and
that's
what
we'll
talk
about
this
afternoon
as
we
start
to
draw
with
you,
but
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
Reflections
on
this
evolution
of
the
site,
I
mean
in
in
some
ways.
A
It
shows
that
city
has
been
open
to
change,
has
been
open
to
thinking
big,
trying
new
things
and
I
think
we're
kind
of
at
that
that
precipice
Point
again
right
now,
where
you
know
we're
looking
to
a
vision
for
the
next
40
years
and
what
is
in
really
the
opportunity
and
vision
for
this
site
be
moving
forward.
So
any
thoughts.
P
I
would
just
I
would
just
like
to
say
I've
been
here
for
most
of
that
time
and
and
I've
seen
all
of
the
changes.
One
correction,
though
Cinderella
city
was
not
built
in
93.
It
was
built,
probably
in
67
or
68.,
and
I
I
was
in
high
school
at
the
time,
but
I
think
there
was
a
huge
battle
wanting
to
take
this
to
city
center
because
it,
and
so
when
we've
done
Redevelopment
in
the
past,
it
hasn't
just
been
really
easy.
P
There
is
struggle
with
the
community
and
I
think
that
probably
we're
experiencing
that
a
little
bit
even
now
in
wanting
to
change
so
anyway,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
change
in
Inglewood
and
and
I'm
okay
for
change,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
going
to
be
an
easy
battle
which
we've
already
seen
so
far.
Thank
you.
There
are
a
little
bit.
D
D
D
That's
an
observation
that
goes
back
into
the
late
or
28
2008
2010
when
fast
tracks
did
that
revoked
on
or
that
additional
vote
I
believe
it
was
in
2003
or
2000,
or
in
more
parking
was
looked
at
here
and
one
of
the
things
we
were.
We
looked
at
and
considered
on
the
south
portion
of
Walmarts
Lots
there,
the
very
south
of
doing
some
sort
of
structure
there
to
meet
the
Walmart
and
to
meet
the
new
RTD
parking
that
was
called
out
for
in
that
vote.
That
was
never
has
never
been
met
and
I.
G
One
thing
I
want
to
highlight
is
that
when
I
speak
to
our
residents,
who
have
been
here
for
a
long
time,
even
my
own
family,
my
parents,
generation,
grandparents
generation,
the
Heyday
of
Cinderella
city-
was
such
a
source
of
Pride
for
this
community.
It
put
us
on
the
map.
People
knew
what
Inglewood
was.
It.
Was
this
incredible
kind
of
regional
good
that
Inglewood
was
proud
of,
and
when
we
look
at
this
space
today,
it
is
not
a
source
of
Community,
Pride
and
I.
G
Think
a
resurrection
of
that
would
be
a
really
powerful
thing
to
invest
back
into
this
community
and
that
this
space
would
maintain
a
unique
sense
of
place
that
it
doesn't
just
kind
of
blend
into
the
rest
of
the
community.
But
it
really
is
a
city
center
that
has
unique
goods
and
attractions
for
this
community
that
we
play
off
and
kind
of
bring
back
that
sense
of
Pride
from
the
Cinderella
City
days.
L
I
I,
that's
awesome,
I
love
that
I,
you
know
the
Cinderella
City.
What
would
have
been
great
is
having
Light
Rail
and
people
could
take
the
light
rail
and
get
off
and
go
to
the
mall
right
now
we
have
a
TOD
site
and
like
why
is
someone
stopping
in
Englewood
to
get
off
at
the
light
rail
to
go
to
City
Hall
to
walk
to
Walmart?
And
so
what
can
we
bring
to
the
area?
L
That
can
be
a
reason
to
come
to
Englewood
and
Shop
in
Englewood
and
walk
through
the
retail
Corridor
and
stay
and
want
to
live
here?
It
is
like
bringing.
How
do
you
have
like
a
Cinderella
City
again
or
something
that
you
know
is:
isn't
you
know
and
I
think
that
we'll
get
to
it?
But
you
know
something
in
the
SKB
tribal
plan
is
a
lot
of
apartment
units
and
an
office
building,
and
maybe
a
hotel.
A
A
Any
other
thoughts
where
we've
the
history.
Okay,
let's
keep
rolling
here
the
other
I
mean
you
know
all
these
things
begin
to
to
layer
into
one
another
right
so
kind
of
where
the
site
has
come,
where
it's
evolved
and
kind
of
what
is
again
the
framework
for
moving
forward.
So
we
we
dig
Studio
where
part
of
the
team
that
was
involved
in
the
formation
and
writing
of
the
Englewood
downtown
plant.
A
It
was
adopted
just
a
couple
years
ago
that
led
to
the
formation
of
the
Edda,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
you
know
that
background
knowledge
about
the
Big
Ideas
behind
that
plan
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
always
said
about
downtown
Inglewood
is
that
it's
not
just
Old
South
Broadway,
it's
not
just
City
Center,
it's
not
the
Medical
District.
It's
really
all
three
of
those.
A
You
know
old,
older
parts
of
neighborhoods
of
Englewood.
It's
really
this
wonderful
kind
of
melding
in
coming
together.
All
these
different
aspects
that
that
I
think
people
think
about
Englewood
and
think
about
you
know
what
makes
it
kind
of
rich
and
very
interesting
place.
The
other
thing
is,
you
know
again.
What's
really
important
is
the
connectivity
of
these
areas
and
even
within
City,
Center
and
I
know
we're
focused
on
kind
of
the
West
End
of
City
Center?
A
A
Think
it's
also
important
to
look
at
the
you
know
the
eight
kind
of
big
overall
arching
ideas
behind
the
downtown
plan
were
these,
and
this
is
you
know
directly
from
that
plan
and
if
you
we're
going
to
read
all
these
but
and
hopefully
you've
all
read
this
plan
many
times
over
and
over,
but
I
think
there
is
a
you
know.
Probably
six
of
these
eight
Big
Ideas
are
really
can
all
be
embraced
and
embodied
within
what
the
next
evolution
of
City
Center
is
in
terms
of
vibrancy,
infill,
connectedness
Etc.
A
A
You
know
that
it's
all
parking,
whether
it's
surface
or
structured,
but
it's
all
parking.
The
the
red
color
maybe
called
that
the
orange
identifies
some
buildings
that
are
vacant
and
are
of
no
current
use
and
then,
if
you
even
think
about
the
areas
that
again
that
are
Beyond
to
the
yeast
before
you
get
to
Broadway,
that
sense
of
just
fields
of
parking
is
even
you
know,
even
more
heightened
and
increased.
A
So
as
a
planner,
you
know
we
always
like
to
think
we're
a
bird
in
the
sky
and
look
down
on
these
things,
but
this
was
just
a
really
telling
diagram
to
us
in
terms
of,
if
you
really
think
about
what's
here
today,
this
is
what
you
got
and
I
think
it
really
opens
up
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
what
can
be
in
the
future.
So
any
thoughts,
comments
on
this
or
actually,
let's
keep
going
Beth
Vogelsang
from
OV
Consulting
has
joined
us.
A
Beth
is
transportation
planner
and
is
part
of
that
was
part
of
our
team
on
the
downtown
plan
and
was
currently
working
on
some
studies
for
the
city
as
part
of
the
CDOT
Grant
right,
Beth,
so
doctor,
okay,
so
come
on
up
come
on
up
and
we
want
to
get
you
recorded
so
come
on
up
and
and
I
want.
I
want
Beth
and
then
Hillary's
going
to
talk
about
a
couple.
Other
plans
that
are
going
on
that
again
are
not.
X
Hey
hi
nice
to
meet
you
all,
so
so
one
of
the
studies
we
have
going
on
and
John
is
managing
this,
for
us
is
this
Dr
Cog,
multimodal
Corridor
study,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
as
you
guys
are
thinking
about
this
Redevelopment
is
what
is
happening
in
the
area
and
what
is
the
role
of
Inglewood
Parkway
in
the
new
future
of
this
area?
So
this
this
map
just
illustrates
kind
of
a
combination,
diagram
of
all
the
different
things
that
have
been
taking
place.
X
So
the
walk
on
Wheels
study,
the
update
to
that
that
we
did
recently
the
downtown
plan.
The
purple
circles
are
the
gateways
or
primary
entrances
to
this
area.
How
we
want
to
think
about
those
sites
we
have
in
dash
black
there
along
the
bottom.
That's
the
Hamden
study,
that's
going
on,
which
is
thinking
about
vehicular
movement
through
the
area
and
what
improvements
need
to
take
place
to
ensure
safety
of
pedestrian,
Crossings
and
vehicular
movement
combined,
and
then
we
have
a
lot
of
different
bike
and
pedestrian
nodes.
X
You
can
see
it
with
those
little
symbols,
meaning
these
are
the
places
that
have
been
identified
through
other
plans
that
are
important
to
reconnecting
this
site
to
the
surrounding
area.
So
in
the
center
of
all
that
you'll
see
a
black
line,
just
that's
our
Inglewood
Parkway,
but
what's
really
interesting
to
us
and,
as
you
guys
think
about
what
this
new
node
is
at
here
by
the
station
is
what
is
that
connection?
It
doesn't
need
to
be
primarily
vehicular.
Maybe
we
de-emphasize
vehicular
and
we
emphasize
pedestrians
and
bikes.
Maybe
it's
a
straight
line
to
Main
Street.
X
Maybe
it's
a
trail
as
well.
You
know.
So
how
do
we
start
to
integrate?
What
we're
thinking
of
on
the
Parkway
and
this
link
to
to
kind
of
pull
together
the
barbell
that
we
have
today
on
South
Broadway
in
the
station?
So
that's
what
this
study
is
basically
this
this
just.
We
don't
really
have
to
spend
much
time
here,
but
our
goals
are
at
the
bottom.
X
We
will
have
some
public
involvement
through
our
process,
just
to
get
that
feedback
and
that
will
come
later
and
then
we'll
get
to
plan
sets
and
approvals
and
recommendations
on
where
this
might
go.
So
just
another
key
in
in
your
whole
thinking
and
I
think,
let's
see
what's
left
on
there
yeah
this
just
gets
into
a
little
more.
So
one
of
the
things
in
terms
of
short-term
Alternatives
and
even
our
long-term
vision
is.
We
need
to
get
some
consistency
in
our
facility
type
along
Inglewood
Parkway.
X
We
have
a
whole
host
of
things
out
there
today,
so
even
including
the
signals
so
so
just
creating
that
continuity
and
visibility
and
recognition
for
all
users,
even
if
they're
on
foot
and
income,
ensuring
comfort
and
safety
and
then
just
going
to
the
long-term
column.
Some
of
the
ideas
that
might
tie
in
for
you
guys
are
this
notion
of
Trail
oriented
development
and,
and
that
might
be
something
not
only
are
we
thinking
about
the
station.
But
how
do
we
re-green
some
of
this
parking
lot
space?
X
Do
we
make
Inglewood
Parkway
a
link
in
that
green
system
as
well?
Do
we
try
tie
into
Little
Dry
Creek
and
some
of
the
work
being
done
there,
and
how
do
we
just
think
about
all
that?
And
so
that's
really
what
I
had?
Hopefully
it's
a
big
piece
of
the
overall
enhanced
placemaking
questions
or
I?
Guess
that's
good.
Okay,
awesome.
A
W
Okay,
so
the
Inglewood
downtown
plan
talks
a
lot
about
multimodal
Connections
and
place
making
as
an
economic
development
strategy.
It
recommends
looking
into
a
new
Greenway
connection
between
the
Little
Dry
Creek
Park
and
the
South
Platte
River.
Our
board
really
wanted
to
investigate
that
idea,
because
it
could
create
a
major
new
amenity
through
the
city
center
area,
connecting
everybody
to
the
river
to
transit,
to
South,
Broadway
shopping,
dining
destinations,
Etc,
and
so
we
commissioned
a
preliminary
feasibility
study.
That's
underway
right
now.
Next
slide,
please
by
the
next
slide
person.
F
W
There
are
many
potential
benefits
to
a
project
like
this.
It
would
provide
a
major
East-West
connection
between
the
city
center
new
neighborhood,
which
could
have
thousands
of
new
residents
in
the
next
10
years,
right
to
shopping,
dining
and
services
on
South
Broadway,
as
well
as
connecting
into
the
New
multimodal
Path,
that's
being
planned
along
South,
our
old
Hampden
and
the
wellness
District.
W
W
This
way,
plus
you
could
go
off
onto
The,
High,
Line,
Canal,
that's
a
destination
for
recreationalists
around
the
metro
area
to
come
out
and
do
a
loop
like
this
lots
of
sustainability
benefits
as
well:
new
Green
Space,
new
tree
canopy
and
a
heat
island
in
an
area
that
is
now
95
impermeable
in
terms
of
Economic
Development.
A
trail
amenity
like
this
can
be
a
catalyst
it
can
support
property
values
of
adjacent
properties
and
properties
that
the
trail
might
actually
go
over.
W
U
W
Large
Culvert
underground
that
that
is
about
12
feet
high
by
18
feet
wide
and
3
600
feet
long.
There's
a
40
foot
wide
easement
over
the
Culvert
that
we
can
work
with.
Okay,
we
have
public
access
to
that
easement.
It
does
go
through
some
private
properties,
so
private
property
engagement
is
going
to
be
critical
to
considering
this
Greenway
connection,
the
good
news
is
that
the
culverts
in
good
condition
and
has
about
50
years
left
in
its
lifespan,
so
perhaps
a
Greenway
could
be
built
on
the
surface.
W
The
feasibility
study
is
looking
at
engineering,
private
property
plans
financing
and
what
that
would?
What
that
would
cost
long-term
maintenance
considerations
really
important
one
to
consider
storm
water
and
flooding
mitigation
current
and
Future
and
Alternatives.
Do
we
daylight
the
creek?
Do
we
do
a
Greenway
on
the
surface?
Are
there
options
that
we
should
be
considering?
A
Okay,
so
you
can
see
lots
of
moving
Parts
lots
of
moving
pieces,
lots
of
other
different
studies
going
on.
We
just
wanted
to
be
sure
everybody
was
aware
of
those
other
components
or
studies,
because
they
all
you
know
fit
into
one
another
and
just
want
to
pause
now
and
see
get
any
questions
comments,
feedback
on
any
of
these
kind
of
site,
physical
studies
and
and
attributes
we
were
discussing
here
at
this
section.
A
J
J
I
A
J
S
J
Then
not
on
that
side,
but
on
this
side,
as
it
lined
up
with
that
1953
slide
that
aerial
footage
where
that
Culvert
goes
through
right
now,
that
seems
to
me
to
be
a
little
bit
higher
than
where
that
open
space
was
am
I
or
am
I
just
looking
at
that
differently.
I'm
just
curious
is
that
that's
under
parking
right
now,
correct
or
under
a
building.
Well.
A
A
V
I
have
a
question
regarding
and
I
think
it's
more
for
Miss
Vogel
saying
regarding
the
trail
oriented
development.
What
are
the
implications
of
that?
What
is
it
that
it's
trying
to
tell
us?
How
is
it
different
than
multimodal?
Is
it
just
stating
that
it's
going
to
be
less
vehicle
traffic
or
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
that
means
in
terms
of
design.
X
So
so
that's
really
up
for
you
to
decide.
You
know
it's
just
an
idea,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
face
in
this
area
is
the
vehicles
and
Paving
right,
and
so
this
is
just
the
notion
that
we
do
need
to
reintroduce
bikes
and
pedestrians
pretty
heavily.
But
not
everybody
is
comfortable
on
the
street
and
and
that's
not
always
the
right
approach
and
it's
a
just
biking
through
an
area
isn't
also
very
recreational.
So
there's
a
broader
audience.
X
We
can
capture
if
we
not
only
provide
facilities
on
street,
but
if
we
turn
toward
re-greening
this
area
as
an
idea
and
using
trails
and
park
space
to
do
that,
and
that
brings
in
all
our
recreational
users
as
well.
So
that's
kind
of
the
notion
and
where
those
Trails
go
is
really
up
to
you
guys
to
decide
as
the
whole
thing
comes
together.
A
Yeah
I
guess
comment.
Add
to
that
too,
about
the
multimodal
connectivity
is.
It
is
a
great
recreational,
ass
asset
you
know
for
the
the
weekend,
spandex
crowd
right.
That
wants
to
go
all
the
way
North
and
go
all
the
way
down
around
Chatfield
yeah,
but
it
is
also
a
great
opportunity
in
terms
of
thinking
about
it
in
context
of
Light,
Rail
and
access
to
light
rail,
but
also
commuting
in
terms
of
the
Platte
River
Trail
is
commuting
when
we
start
thinking
about
the
the
Redevelopment
nodes
that
are
occurring
as
you
go
north
as
well.
A
T
T
The
big
the
big
properties
in
that
area
so
I
think
what
I'm
suggesting
is
that
I
think
there's
going
to
be
just
some
natural
organic
focus
on
that
area?
That's
going
to
be
really
useful
in
defining
the
character
of
that
area
that
and
it
also
won't
leave
City
Center
as
an
island
of
development
and
I,
think
that
was.
T
Z
Trust
me,
this
is
not
my
background,
so
take
it
into
Spirit
as
I'm
trying
to
say
it
is
that's
going
to
happen
in
the
wellness
District.
It's
not
going
to
be
safe
for
those
that
we
serve
to
even
get
to
Broadway
unless
we
address
opportunities
that
pull
us
all
together.
The
other
thing
you
had
mentioned
earlier
is
there
was
a
statement
from
feedback
from
the
community
that
we
want
a
sense
of
community
that
reflects
the
spirit
and
the
character
of
Inglewood,
but
I'm,
not
clear,
I
know
what
that
is.
Z
W
Diane
I'm
just
just
quick
reminder
of
the
Hampton
public
improvements
project,
which
will
be
all
about
identity
for
the
wellness
district
and
a
multi-modal
corridor
up
Hampden
that
gets
folks
to
South
Broadway
and
could
even
connect
to
this
little
Dry.
Creek,
Park
and
trail
I
mean
it.
It
is
part
of
a
larger
connection.
W
I
also
think
a
little
Dry
Creek
is
a
big
part
of
the
city's
identity.
When
we
start
to
talk
about
bringing
back
local
history
and
meaning-
and
this
is
where
gold
was
discovered
in
this
community-
it
was
the
basis
to
to
found
the
city
of
Inglewood
so
really
embracing
the
Little
Dry
Creek
Corridor
and
having
a
little.
It
goes
through
some
of
the
historic
areas
in
the
city
center
area,
the
the
tularies
and
where
the
airplanes
were.
W
Invented
were
some
of
the
greenhouses
were,
there's
real
opportunities
there
to
celebrate
local
history.
So
to
me,
identity
is
really
looking
at
Community,
Values,
community
history,
cultural
Traditions
patterns
in
the
architecture
and
the
landscape.
We
we
have
those
elements,
it's
just
a
matter
of
putting
them
together.
A
I
would
just
add
to
that
too,
that
the
city
recently
completed
a
branding
and
signage
and
wayfine
study
that
I
think
also
is
contributes
to
what
is
Englewood.
You
know,
and
you
know
to
be
very
honest:
it's
it's
one
of
those
elusive
things
that
we
have
been
as
even
in
the
downtown
plant
and
now
the
city
center
study
and
other
studies
is
like
everybody
says.
Well,
we
want
it
to
be
uniquely
Englewood
and
we're
like
okay.
What
is
that
you
know
Express
this
help
help
us
I
mean
there's
wonderful
history.
A
You
know,
there's
the
flowers,
the
growing
of
carnations.
There
was
gold
on
Little
Dry
Creek,
there
was
Aviation,
there's
automobile
Automotive
kind
of
a
focus.
I
mean
there
are
all
these
wonderful
little
kernels
right
of
history
and
richness
of
what
Englewood
is
about
and
I
think
is.
You
know
as
we
move
forward
and
Collective
planning
here
is
how
you,
how
do
you,
you
know,
tease
those
out
and
how
do
you
unify
those
into
something?
That's
consistent,
I
think
moving
for
so
we'd
love
to
hear
more
thoughts
and
and
ideas
about
that.
P
I
would
like
to
thank
Diane
for
her
comments,
because
I
think
they're
really
well
taken
I
mean
it's
obvious
that
right
now
we
are
focusing
on
the
city
center
area,
but
if
we
don't
tie
the
wellness
District
together
to
this,
and
if
we're
talking
about
affordable
Workforce
housing,
it
is
the
hospitals
that
are
going
to
benefit
the
most
and
if
there
is
not
that
connection,
it's
going
to
create,
create
a
problem
for
them.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
address
that.
Also.
Thank
you.
A
Absolutely
we're
110
percent
behind
you
on
that,
because
I
think
that's
really
the
opportunity
that
we
have
here.
One
of
the
key
ones
I
did
want
to
just
comment
on
this
diagram
as
well,
because
it's
up
here
because
again
as
a
planner,
this
this
this
to
us
this
means
a
lot
and
which
is
this
really
reflects
the
parcelization
of
you
know
when
this
occurred
partly
evolved
when
Cinderella
City
came
along
then,
partly
when
its
next
evolution
of
the
Tod,
but
in
planning
terms,
this
is
what
we
would
call
Super
blocks.
A
You
know
they
were
probably
in
the
past,
as
you
saw
in
some
of
those
old
photos,
were
a
much
more
finer
grain
of
streets
and
size
of
streets
in
size
of
blocks
like
you
can
see,
North
on
this
photo
and
south
on
this
photo
of
probably
what
was
there
before
right
and
so
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
now.
In
terms
of
back
to
the
issue
of,
does
this
building
state?
Does
it
not
stay?
You
know
things
were
set
up
around
a
super
block
pattern
that
was,
that
was
a
big
movement
of
planning.
A
You
know
30
40
years
ago
and
I
think
what
people
planners
and
communities
have
come
to
realize
is
that
these
big
super
blocks
are
really
geared
towards
putting
buildings
down
and
surrounding
them
surrounding
them
with
parking
and
what
people
I
think
in
communities
really
want.
Today
is
more
a
sense
of
walkability,
more
a
sense
of
buildings
addressing
the
street
edges
and
more
of
a
sense
of
kind
of
creating
a
feel
of
of
an
in
some
ways:
hearkening
back
to
an
older
Town,
an
older
Main
Street.
C
I'll
make
a
comment
about
the
sense
of
identity
and
what
that
is,
I
think
our
friend
Peter
kudla
had
an
article
in
the
Denver
Post,
where
he
described
it
as
the
land
of
opportunity
and
to
me
that
really
encapsulated
the
historic
sense
of
Inglewood
and
the
current
sense
of
Inglewood
I
mean
I
moved
here,
because
I
couldn't
afford
to
live
in
Denver
and
it
was.
This
was
an
accessible
place
and
then
I
built
my
business
here
along
with
my
husband,
because
it
was
accessible
and
a
great
community.
C
Think
that,
as
we
progress
on
this
and
thinking
about
what
kind
of
development
we
would
like
to
see,
I
think
if
we
keep
that
in
mind
that
this
is
the
land
of
opportunity
where
people
can
come
and
build
a
family
and
start
a
life
and
start
businesses.
I
think
that
might
be
a
really
good
sort
of
guiding
bite
for
how
we
choose
to
develop
the
site.
Z
I
would
add
to
that
I
think
what's
interesting
about
what
you
just
said
is
those
to
me
are
the
characters
that
that's
the
language.
Do
we
want
Inglewood
to
be?
You
know
known
for
its
history
known
for
its
Innovation,
those
type
of
things,
so
that
as
we
move
forward,
those
are
the
things
we
focus
on
and
that's
the
piece
that
I
feel
like
is
not
well
defined.
Yet.
G
Oh
and
my
colleagues
know
that
I
have
a
lot
of
thoughts
and
feelings
about
the
character
and
identity
of
Inglewood.
The
the
thing
that
I
consistently
hear
from
our
citizens
is
that
Inglewood
is
a
small
town
wrapped
in
a
big
city
and
that
we
want
to
maintain
that
small
town
feeling
and
connectivity
as
we
grow
and
change
right
and
actually
more
the
people
who
think
we
can
do
both.
G
But
it's
going
to
take
a
tremendous
amount
of
intentionality
to
do
that,
and
so
how
do
we
keep
a
sense
of
community
as
we
grow,
but
then
also
most
of
the
people
who
live
in
Inglewood?
You
know
this
is
a
traditional
place
where
Blue
Collar
families
can
Thrive
and
and
build
a
life,
but
they
live
here
because
they
don't
want
to
live
in
Denver.
They
don't
want
to
live
in
Highlands
Ranch.
G
There
is
something
unique
to
the
quirky
and
some
would
say,
gritty
nature
of
our
community
that
is
distinct
and
something
that
I
think
our
community
wants
to
maintain.
And
so,
as
we
think
about
what
this
space
looks
and
feels
like,
it
has
to
have
that
unique
character.
The
artistic
creative
character
that
Innovative
spirit,
that
I
think,
is
what
we're
talking
about.
U
P
One
thing
I
think
that
would
be
helpful,
is
going
from
the
city
center
and
taking
the
street,
which
is
Inglewood
Parkway,
so
straight
East
to
Broadway.
Instead
of
all
these
little
roundabouts
and
everything
and
making
it
an
access
to
Broadway
and
with
retail
lining
both
sides
of
that
street
I
mean
that's
originally.
A
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
we'll
be
talking
more
about
these
physical
aspects
when
we
get
into
this
afternoon
session
and
actually
rolling
out
the
paper
and
start
drawing
so
with
that,
we're
actually
a
little
bit
ahead
of
schedule
and
it's
break
time.
So
why
don't
we
take
a
15
minute
break
and
be
back
here
at
10
to
11.,
and
we
will
then
talk
about
some
financial
and
economic
impacts
at
shape,
City
Center.
So
thank
you.
J
AA
J
Y
Y
J
Y
I
J
J
X
AC
AC
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
AC
AC
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
U
Y
A
A
A
A
So
no
plan
is
just
a
physical
plan,
there's
always
financial
and
legal
and
other
considerations
that
go
into
it.
So
with
that
we
have
a
great
team
of
Mark
and
Lizzy
and
Troy
who
are
going
to
take
us
through
the
some
of
the
financial
considerations
and
approaches
to
the
city
center
project
as
well.
So
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
you.
Another
one's
gonna
kick
off
Lizzy.
Are
you
okay,.
AA
So
I,
you
know
a
couple
key
points.
As
we
start
kick
this
off.
I
mean
the
big
thing
to
remember
here
is
that
when
we
start
evaluating
the
financial
piece,
the
market
participant
that
comes
up
with
a
plan
for
the
city
center
is
probably
the
key
component
to
being
able
to
start
in
the
financial
underwriting
and
that's
a
player.
We
don't
have
at
the
table
right
now.
AA
So
how
do
we
think
about
Public
Finance
in
general?
Well,
you
know
Public
Finance
as
part
of
a
real
estate.
Development
project
is
really
intended
to
be
the
minimum
amount
investment
necessary
to
achieve
the
goals
of
the
project
to
achieve
the
pr,
the
public,
schools
and
incent
the
private
development.
So
if
you
you
can
see
here,
sorry,
the
graph
has
got
a
little
messed
up.
I
had
a
dream
that
they
did,
but
the
the
private
funding
is
really
the
largest
component
here
as
part
of
any
development
project.
AA
So
the
risk
really
sits
with
the
private
sector.
The
private
sector
is
going
to
be
evaluating
the
participation
in
this
project
from
a
return
basis,
so
the
profitability
is
really
important.
They'll
be
looking
at
irr
return
to
investors.
But
again,
as
we
said,
we
don't
really
know
what
this
is.
We
don't
know
the
slice
of
the
pie.
We
don't
know
what
the
return
metrics
are.
We
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
be
looking
for
until
they
come
up
with
a
proposal
or
a
plan.
AA
So
but
but
overall,
the
intent
is
to
maximize
the
slice
of
the
pie.
Have
the
public
components
be
the
smallest
amount
necessary
to
achieve
the
goals
in
the
vision
for
what
the
community
wants
so
on
those
shifting
gears
on
the
public
side
we'll
go
through
the
left
side
of
the
slide.
The
city
is
a
key
component
to
that
the
city
has
taxing
Authority,
it
has
a
general
fund.
AF
Good
morning,
everyone
it's
great
to
be
here
and
part
of
this
conversation.
We
might
overlap
a
little
bit
in
comments
and
that's
to
be
expected.
Talking
about
p3s
or
public-private
Partnerships,
really
looking
at
what
that
Public,
Finance
or
public
sector
component
looks
like,
as
Lizzy
touched
on,
you
can
have
direct
contributions,
perhaps
from
excess
or
unassigned
fund
balance.
If
that
is
available
and
approved
certain
Municipal
revenues,
certainly
not
the
ones
essential
to
your
function
and
service
provision.
Think
of
revenues
like
use,
tax
or
fees
paid
during
the
development
process.
AF
Those
are
fees
that
or
revenues
that
the
city
might
consider
in
incentive
package.
That's
very
common.
Those
might
be
waived
for
a
period
of
time
and
then,
lastly,
as
Lizzy
touched
on
land
very
crucial
and
vital
asset
to
all
municipalities,
and
it
can
be
leveraged
in
a
number
of
different
ways
to
be
a
public
component
to
a
P3,
Metropolitan
districts
or
met
districts
are
governed
under
title
32
of
the
Colorado
revised
statutes.
These
are
quasi-governmental
entities
that
are
put
in
place
to
fund
substantial
infrastructure
for
development.
AF
Property
tax
is
then
assessed
on
that
development,
whether
it
be
commercial
and
or
residential,
and
that
property
tax
pays
back
that
upfront
infrastructure
could
be
available
on
an
ongoing
basis
as
well.
Public
Improvement
fees
are
very
common.
They
can
be
initiated
by
a
Metropolitan
District
that
fees
apply
to
purchases
made
in
the
Metropolitan
District
or
elsewhere.
Depending
on
the
agreement,
let
me
draw
your
attention
to
Grants.
Those
are
always
something
I
really
keep
on
top
of
mind
for
my
engagements
and
clients.
It's
free
money.
AF
AF
AF
Ddas
are
governed
under
their
own
statute:
31
25
8,
yes,
I
have
room
memorized
the
statute.
It
is
the
only
other
entity,
besides
uras
that
can
collect
and
expand
incremental
property
and
or
sales
tax
revenues.
What
ddas
typically
do
with
those
revenues
is
support.
A
project
of
public
benefit.
Okay,
now
I
recognize
that's
a
large
umbrella
of
improvements
to
consider.
AF
So
we
really
direct
our
attention
to
the
Englewood
downtown
plan,
as
well
as
the
board's
adopted
tax,
increment
investment
policy,
and
so
those
documents
will
give
us
more
guidance
on
eligible
costs
which
we'll
talk
about
in
a
few
minutes.
The
DDA
and
certainly
Englewood
DDA,
is
no
different
participates
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
some
of
which
we've
already
talked
about
and
highlighted.
AF
W
Sorry
excellent,
okay,
I
was
told
I
was
on
slide
two,
so
I'm
I'm
flustered
anyway
per
the
Colorado
DDA
statute.
First
and
foremost,
the
Inglewood
Downtown
Development
Authority,
was
formed
to
serve
a
public
use
in
exchange
for
significant
investment
of
public
tax
increment
funds.
A
development
project
should
do
more
than
maximize
the
needs
of
the
developer.
W
W
These
include
alignment
with
the
Inglewood
downtown
plan,
Workforce
housing
for
area
employers
and
the
school
district,
multimodal
connections,
public
spaces
and
green
features,
quality,
Urban,
Design,
enhancement
of
local
identity
through
historical
connections,
cultural
uses,
small
business
opportunities,
the
opportunity
idea
that
that
Erica
communicated
and
to
me
it's
a
notion
of
livability
for
a
small
community
opportunities
to
leverage
funds
or
attract
more
funding.
So
we
can
go
out
and
get
more
money
and
use
our
money
as
leverage
to
do
that
and
the
Investments
of
others.
W
AF
AF
And
if
you
haven't
been
there,
I
highly
suggest
it,
particularly
if
you
haven't
been
there
in
a
long
time,
Grand
Junction's
housing
Market's
a
little
different,
so
that
kind
of
drove
this
particular
project
that
I'll
speak
about
here.
Private
development
did
follow
public
commitment
in
this
instance
and
the
DDA
excuse
me.
The
city
committed
up
to
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
fees
that
I
referenced
on
the
previous
slide,
related
to
the
development
and
sales
and
use
tax
paid
on
the
construction
materials.
AF
The
DDA
contributed
up
to
3.5
million
dollars
of
tax
increment
to
this
project
and
the
developer.
Richmark
companies
finished
up
the
capital
stack.
So
what's
the
return
on
investment,
The
Junction,
it's
called
is
a
250
seven
rental
unit
apartment,
mostly
family
multi-family
units,
and
this
project
really
reactivated
kind
of
an
economically
depressed
parcel
on
the
west
Corridor
of
their
downtown,
but
also
brings
much
needed
housing
to
that
particular
corridor.
AF
Moving
to
our
neighbors
to
the
south
of
us,
Castle
Rock
they're,
halfway
through
their
DDA
life
cycle
and
their
projects
have
ranged
from
beautification
to
Adaptive
reuse,
which
we've
talked
about
to
large
development
projects
and
the
river
rock
the
River
Walk
excuse
me
project
was
one
of
the
first
projects
in
their
downtown
to
revitalize
and
catalyze
their
sleepy
and
underused.
Downtown
corridor
funding
came
from
a
variety
of
sources.
Here
again,
the
town
put
in
3.3
million
dollars
of
fees
in
use
tax.
AF
What
was
the
return
on
investment
for
Castle
Rock?
Well,
it
ended
up
being
a
transformative,
Suburban
mixed-use
development.
It's
two
buildings,
five
and
six
stories
with
a
bridge
that
goes
over
seller's
Gulch
in
there
in
downtown,
and
there
was
also
below
grade
parking
as
part
of
the
buildings.
So
you
had
230
units
total
343
parking
spaces,
fourteen
thousand
square
feet
of
ground
floor
retail,
as
well
as
30
000
square
feet
of
Office
Space.
AF
Our
La,
the
last
project
called
talk
in
detail
about,
is
Loveland
downtown
district
or
Loveland
Downtown
Development
Authority.
This
is
one
of
the
newer
Downtown
Development
authorities
based
on
the
examples
we
used.
They
were
formed
in
2015
and
The.
Foundry
really
set
the
foundation
for
the
revitalization
of
their
Historic
downtown.
It
was
a
sweeping
development
of
nearly
Three
City
Blocks.
That
was
catalytic
in
nature.
That's
a
word:
we've
been
throwing
around
what
that
has
done
in
in
downtown
Loveland.
AF
Is
it's
created
more
development
around
it
and
that's
certainly
an
outcome
we'd
like
to
see
in
this
case
there
was
a
lot
of
forethought
by
the
municipality,
the
city
of
Loveland
kind
of
conceptualized,
that
this
was
an
area
ripe
for
redevelopment
or
development.
More
than
a
decade
ago,
in
the
in
the
city
took
steps
to
strategically
acquire
property
that
ended
up
being
part
of
the
development
and
the
city
in
that
case
spent
five
million
dollars
on
those
properties.
AF
AF
There
was
a
Ura
involved
initially,
but
the
DDA
came
in
and
helps
pay
for
the
city
financing
of
infrastructure.
What's
interesting
about
that
and
I'll
tell
you
about
the
return
on
investment
in
just
a
second
there's,
a
movie
theater
a
surprise,
surprise
and
50
cents
of
every
movie
ticket
helps
go
to
pay
that
financing
that
the
city
issued
on
behalf
of
the
project,
and
that
is
100
percent
of
property
and
sales
tax
Tiff
that
the
DDA
is
contributing
from
that
project.
AF
There
was
a
Metropolitan
District
involved
in
this
particular
project.
They
provided
some
of
the
upfront
infrastructure
costs
at
just
about
1.4
million
dollars
and
what
was
the
return
on
investment
here?
105
155
rental
units
between
two
buildings,
a
seven
theater
Metrolux,
which
is
the
first
kind
first
kind
of
its
movie
theater
run
in
Colorado.
We
had
14
000
feet
of
square
feet
of
new
retail
restaurant
space
there
as
well
and
a.
AF
Lastly,
there
was
a
hotel,
a
Marriott
Hotel,
a
Town
Place
Suites,
that
was
part
of
the
development
and
parking
was
also
a
part
of
the
development
460
spots,
where
I
helped
financed
by
that
City
financing
I
mentioned,
and
there
was
a
public
Plaza
that
wrapped
around
the
buildings
for
a
gathering
and
event
space
with
that
I'll.
Let
Lizzie
finish
up
the
slide.
AA
AA
Now
you
could
probably
accept
expect
similar
returns
from
a
similar
type
project.
I
think
one
important
thing
to
think
about
is
those
returns.
Will
change
based
on
what
is
the
final
outcome
of
the
plan
so
again,
more
public
space
probably
would
return
a
lesser
Financial
return
again.
All
these
things
need
to
be
weighed
together.
The
qualitative
impacts,
as
well
as
the
quantitative,
so
I
think
we're
on
to
the
next
slide.
AF
AF
AG
This
slide
is
really
trying
to
go
from
all
right.
We've
talked
about
other
examples.
We've
talked
about
big
stuff,
we've
talked
about
small
stuff.
Let's
talk
about
this
place
and
what
we
know
today
and
earlier
comments
talking
about
Walmart
and
are
they
at
the
table
or
not
RTD?
Are
they
at
the
table
or
not
I?
AG
Think
the
the
response
was
the
right
one
and
I
just
want
to
tie
it
back
until
there's
a
plan
very
much
like
the
DDA
very
much
like
the
city
nobody's
going
to
say
yes
to
anything
until
there's
a
plan
right
until
there
is
an
applicant
who's
saying
this
is
what
I
want
to
build,
and
this
is
what
you're
going
to
get
out
of
it,
and
this
is
what
I
need
to
make
that
happen,
and
so
what
we've
done
here
is
say
all
right.
What
do
we
know
today?
What
are
our
existing
obligations
today?
AG
If
we
want
to
have
the
ability
to
have
Civic
Center
here,
there's
about
a
hundred
parking
stalls
that
are
needed
for
the
city,
to
conduct
business,
okay
and
and
based
on
some
work
that
HPM
Contracting
did
we're
estimating
that's
about?
Fifty
thousand
dollars
a
parking
stall
to
build
structured
parking,
either
above
grade
or
below
grade,
and
that
will
all
change
based
on
the
final
plan.
AG
If
it's
all
above
grade,
it
might
be
a
little
cheaper
if
it's
all
below
grade,
it
might
be
a
little
more
expensive
but,
let's
just
say,
50
a
stall
for
rough
order
and
magnitude.
Today
we
have
a
permanent
Transit
easement
in
place
with
our
TD
that
obligates
the
city
to
provide
a
certain
number
of
parking
stalls.
600
of
them
are
taken
care
of
on
that
North
lot.
That
leaves
305
that
have
to
be
taken
care
of
within
this
development
again,
if
nothing
changes.
AG
So
that's
about
15
million
dollars
to
recreate
those
required
stalls
and
then
again,
based
on
the
previous
development
plan.
If
you
impose
infrastructure
onto
this
site,
the
horizontal
infrastructure,
rectilinear,
building
Parcels
demolish
this
building
the
parking
garage,
it
was
estimated
to
be
about
19
million
dollars
of
both
Demolition
and
horizontal
infrastructure
necessary
to
support
that
plan.
Okay,
so
that's
the
best
available
information.
AG
Until
we
have
a
proposal
that
says
here's
what
I
want
to
build
and
here's
what
I
would
propose
the
way
to
build
it,
and
then
we
can
have
those
conversations
with
development
or
with
the
the
public
Partners
RTD
Walmart
Etc,
and
so
we
just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
as
a
baseline
of
this
is
what
we
know
today
to
make
this
happen.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
this
point
loud
and
clear,
because
in
our
discussions
we
also
got
wrapped
around
the
axle
around
this.
AG
You
add
those
up
you
get
to
around
39
million
dollars.
That's
not
the
gap
nobody's
standing
up
here
today
and
saying
the
public
should
be
expected
to
put
39
million
dollars
of
public
subsidy
into
this
thing.
To
make
it
happen,
that's
why
you
need
a
proposal,
that's
why
you
need
a
development
partner
and
you
need
to
do
your
underwriting,
so
you
can
quantify
what
that
ask,
might
be
and
but
keep
this
in
mind
as
we
have
our
further
discussions
today
that
this
is
what
we
know
today
and
its
worst
case
scenario.
AF
I'm,
a
bit
of
a
Public
Finance
geek,
so
I
get
a
little
excited
jumping
ahead
there.
My
apologies
next
yep
great,
so
you
know
I
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
before
I.
Go
into
details
about
this
particular
slide
that
the
city
or
municipality
in
any
kind
of
P3
is
still
an
important
component
to
the
public
financing
picture.
AF
As
I
mentioned,
Metro
districts
are
formed
on
a
piece
of
property
Often
by
the
efforts
of
a
developer,
with
the
appropriate
jurisdictional
approval,
they'll
get
formed
and
they'll
typically
fund
infrastructure
like
streets,
curb
gutter,
sewer,
storm
drainage
and
other
types
of
utilities.
That's
what
the
Metro
District
did
in
Loveland
exactly.
AF
There
is
a
financing
mechanism
that
Metro
districts
will
use
to
raise
that
money
to
install
the
infrastructure
and
then,
as
I
said,
property.
Taxes
are
then
assessed
on
that
development
to
repay
those
obligations
along
with
special
ownership
taxes,
as
well
as
public
Improvement
fees.
That
I
mentioned
earlier.
Metropolitan
districts
on
an
ongoing
basis
can
be
responsible
for
a
lot
of
things
like
those
noted
on
the
slide.
AF
Safety
security,
Landscaping,
snow
removal,
general
maintenance,
ddas,
as
Hillary
touched
on,
has
a
slightly
different
mission
where,
where
formed
we're,
doing
good
work
and
we're
looking
at
multimodal
transportation
and
parking
for
use
of
our
funds,
we're
looking
at
attainable
and
diverse
housing,
we're
looking
at
Place
making
and
public
space
enhancement
among
other
things,
but
those
are
a
few
that
are
on
the
screen
to
show
you
on
an
ongoing
basis.
The
DDA
can
be
a
very
powerful
entity
with
programming
activation
marketing
and,
in
some
cases,
event
management.
R
U
AF
AF
Agreement
Erica:
that's
when
the
DDA
would
expend
their
funds,
so
the
developer
in
these
instances
is
expected
to
upfront
the
costs
of
the
infrastructure
and
what
the
ddas
really
do
is
use
a
reimbursement
or
development
agreement
to
allow
for
performance
measures
to
be
put
in
place
once
those
performance
measures
are
met.
That's
when
the
DDA
would
expend
its
funds.
AA
I'm
gonna
volunteer
Mark
here
to
talk
about
Denver,
Union
Station,
because
I
think
you
know
they're
example
of
a
project
where
the
the
DDA
was
instrumental
in
in
packaging.
The
deal
that
there
was
so
much
infrastructure
to
pay
for
up
front
that
having
the
DDR
participation
from
the
very
beginning
was
critical.
So.
AG
Yeah
the
the
Union
Station
project
Authority
entered
into
a
it,
was
a
300
million
dollars
worth
of
Federal
loans,
tifia
and
rif
Loans,
both
real
estate
and
trans
Transportation
infrastructure
loans,
and
so
like.
A
hundred
percent
of
the
increment
pledged
from
the
from
generated
from
the
DDA,
was
pledged
to
repay
those
Federal
loans,
which
was
you
know
the
majority
of
the
Capital
stock
necessary
to
put
in
the
480
million
dollars
of
infrastructure
for
Union
Station
for
ninth
and
Colorado.
That
was
the
former
CU
Hospital
site.
AG
That
was
2
million
square
feet
of
an
abandoned
hospital
after
they
relocated
out
to
Fitz,
and
that
the
Public
Finance
came
in
after
the
building
was
down.
There
was
there
was
a
trigger
mechanism
where
the
developer
approached
the
urban
renewal,
Authority
and
said:
okay,
it's
time
to
float
bonds
for
this,
and
it
was
48
million
dollars
was
the
was
the
public
contribution
of
the
tax
increment
and
then
the
the
Met
District
floated
their
bonds
about
the
same
time,
and
so
there's
the
timing.
P
AG
We
would
expect
that
the
opportunity
Zone
would
be
absolutely
something
that
we
would
tell
the
development
partner
that
they
need
to
explore
and
maximize
right,
bring
all
those
tools
to
the
table.
In
my
former
job,
as
as
a
deputy
director
for
the
Denver
urban
renewal
Authority,
we
always
said
the
Tiff
is
the
icing
on
the
cake.
You
actually
have
to
bake
the
cake
first
and
then
the
Tiff
can
come
in
and
kind
of
be
that
last
little
piece
that
completes
the
project,
and
so
it
was.
AG
It
was
the
last
dollars
in
and
I,
don't
know,
Hillary
how
you
guys
are
going
to
administer
that,
but
I
would
expect
it
to
be
a
similar
approach,
right,
that's
a
precious
local
resource,
and
so,
if
there's
Federal
programs
or
other
dollars
out
there,
that
can
help
with.
The
financing,
though,
should
be
explored
and
maximized
first,
but.
P
L
On
the
opportunity,
Zone,
specifically
yeah,
so
the
opportunity
Zone
when
he
brought
up
the
pie
of
where
money
comes
from
the
development,
and
you
have
the
private
sector
and
the
public
sector.
It's
really
for
the
private
Capital
coming
into
the
transaction.
It
enables
a
developer
to
bring
gains
that
don't
have
to
come
from
Real
Estate.
They
can
come
from
selling
stock
or
whatever
and
not
pay
the
taxes
on
those
gains
and
use
that
as
their
private
funding
for
the
development
deal.
L
That
will
allow
them
to
delay
the
tax
implications
and
let
it
grow
tax-free
for
a
decade
now
fewer
years,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
for
the
ultimate
partner
developer
coming
in
to
know
that
this
is
a
federal
opportunity,
Zone,
because
it
allows
them
to
bring
sources
of
capital
on
their
side
that
are
more
advantageous
than
just
a
another
dollar
to
the
the
table.
The
table.
P
AF
U
L
Credit,
it's
a
incentive
for
how
that
private
funding
piece
comes
into
play,
so
there
are
I'm
sure
opportunity.
Zone
developments
happening
in
Englewood,
I
would
I
would
think
the
equity
coming
in.
For
that
developer
is
more
the
benefit.
We
don't
necessarily
see
the
benefit
of
it
other
than
it
makes
it
more
attractive
for
a
developer
to
come
in
and
do
something
in
our
city
because
of
the
federal
opportunity,
Zone
overlay.
Q
Yeah
I
think
that's
very
well
said
in
terms
of
the
discussion
of
how
it
works.
One
of
the
things
we
do
in
our
economic
development
program
is
we
make
sure
that
people
who
are
investing
in
the
community
and
bringing
projects
that
are
aware
that
a
large
part
of
Englewood
is
within
the
opportunity
zone,
so
they
could
take
advantage
of
that
on
the
private
side.
Q
The
other
thing
that
applies
to
the
entirety
event
of
of
Englewood
is
the
Enterprise
Zone,
the
federal
Enterprise
Zone,
and
that
gets
to
some
things
in
terms
of
the
employment
that's
brought
to
this
area,
there's
certain
tax
credits
and
other
things
for
training
and
equipment
that
investors
can
can
take
advantage
of.
That's
the
other
thing
that
we
try
to
convey
when
people
come
in
as
well.
AA
So,
if
you
think
about
who
pays
for
that
program,
it's
really
the
collectors
of
capital
gains
taxes.
So
it's
the
state
and
federal
level
that
actually
pays
for
that
program.
Through
the
you
know,
non-collection
of
capital
gains.
So
if
you
remember
I'll,
just
repeat
this,
that
I
talked
about
the
private
sector
is
going
to
have
investment
hurdle
returns.
That's
where
you're
going
to
see
the
impact
of
those
opportunity
zones,
because
they're
not
paying
capital
gains.
Taxes
on
a
portion
of
these
Investments,
their
irr
return
might
be
a
little
bit
less.
AF
P
P
AA
Like
it's,
not
a
piggy
bank,
that's
available,
it's
sort
of
a
investor
comes
to
the
table,
says
I'll,
invest
in
this
site
and
I'll
maybe
pay
a
little
bit
more.
For
you
know
a
better
construction
or
bet.
You
know
more
units,
because
I
have
a
cost
offset
on
my
tax
bill
and
I
I,
because
I
don't
have
to
pay
federal
and
state
capital
gains.
Taxes
on
this
I
may
be
willing
to
invest
a
little
bit
more
into
the
project
or
take
a
little
bit
lower
of
an
economic
return.
AF
I
believe
that's
a
grant
and
a
subsidized
loan
program
if
I'm
not
to
me
those
are
absolutely
opportunities
under
the
grant
section
that
we
we
have
to
explore.
I
can't
speak
to
how
they
would
specifically
work
in
a
plan
of
development,
since
we
don't
really
have
a
specific
conceptual
plan
today
or
an
applicant,
but
those
are
things
that
I
absolutely
implore.
My
engagements
to
explore
I
certainly
know
that
the
transformational
affordable.
R
AF
Q
One
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
is
we're
starting
to
explore
some
of
the
opportunities
with
that
that
legislation,
and
one
of
the
things
that's
on
the
table
is
the
opportunity
to
for
cities
to
actually
get
grants
under
that
program.
That
would
help
for
land
acquisition,
land
banking,
that
type
of
thing.
So
if
there
are
funds
available
through
that
Grant
process
that
could
help
underwrite
the
cost
of
the
underlying
land
for
those
types
of
projects
very.
J
So
as
we're
trying
to
entice
developers
to
come
in
and
work
with
us,
there
are
certain
things:
I've
heard
that
I
mean
we
can
utilize.
We
can
have
this
carrot
at
the
opportunity.
Zone,
we
have
the
formation
of
the
Edda.
What
else
do
we
have?
That
makes
us
stand
out
to
a
developer
that
they
may
choose
us
over?
Something
else.
I
mean
we've
spent
plenty
of
time
talking
about
what
our
what
we
want
and
where
our
issues
are
and
where
our
concerns
are,
but
what
other
carrots
do
we
have.
AF
To
me,
you
know
as
much
of
the
sources
that
I
covered
on
this
slide,
that
we
could
impose
I
think
makes
the
deal
potentially
more
attractive
from
an
incentive
package.
For
me,
I
think
it's
all
of
these
players
coming
together
to
bring
these
sources
to
the
table.
Mark.
Do
you
have
any
other
comments.
AG
Or
when
you
have
22
acres
of
developable
land,
so
it's
it's
a
very
large
site
that
creates
a
lot
of
opportunity
just
in
and
of
itself,
and
when
you
talk
about
mix
of
uses
developers
like
that,
it's
just
like
any
other
portfolio
right
it.
If
you
can
diversify
your
risk,
because
hotel
is
out
of
favor
right
now,
but
you've
got
four
or
five
buildings
that
you
might
build
residential
on,
that
that
doesn't
put
all
their
eggs
in
one
product
type
basket.
AG
If
you
will
and
so
I
think
that
that's
a
really
important
piece-
the
proximity
to
light
rail
I
mean
there
are
very
few
sites
right.
There's
64
sites
in
Denver
that
are
light
rail,
stop
adjacent
and
you
guys
are
not
just
adjacent
to
it.
Right,
you're,
you're
right
on
top
of
it,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
physical
attributes
to
this
site
that
will
make
it
really
attractive.
I
think
the
large
availability
of
land
can
make
it
something
that's
attractive
to
people,
because
they
can.
AG
They
can
curate
their
own
kind
of
center
of
gravity
within
the
development.
They
don't
have
to
hope
that
all
the
adjacent
property
owners
are
also
going
to
deliver
in
a
period
of
time,
so
they
can
control
their
own
destiny
to
a
lot
of
to
a
large
degree
and
that's
attractive
for
for
Real
Estate
Investors.
W
Oh
just
to
add
that
our
our
work
today
is
critical
having
a
cohesive,
Community
Vision
that
we're
all
comfortable
with
that
we're
all
willing
to
contribute
to
that
interests
of
all
the
parties
are,
are
balanced
out
and
we're
looking
forward
and
moving
forward
together
efficiently.
That's
what
makes
us
competitive.
AF
A
So
to
Hillary's,
Point
Troy's
point
about
a
cohesive
vision,
and
we
wanted
to
share
with
you
in
this
next
section
that
we
get
to
go
to
lunch
this
next
section.
We
wanted
to
share
with
you
what
we've
seen
in
terms
of
what
makes
for
successful,
mixed-use,
Urban,
Tod,
neighborhoods
and
not
every
project,
has
every
one
of
these
components,
but
kindly
most
of
the
successful
ones
do
have
nearly
all
of
these.
So
again,
I
didn't
even
think
again
that
we
have
the
slate
and
the
opportunity
here
to
create
something
like
this
at
City
Center
Englewood.
A
So
what
are
those
attributes
that
are
shared
across
these?
One?
Is
an
integrated
platform
of
land
uses
and
densities,
and
part
of
that
is,
is
we
were
just
saying?
We
big
planning
term
we
use
these
days?
Is
the
10-minute
neighborhood,
meaning
that
you
can
live
in
one
place
and
be
10
minutes
to
basically
anything?
A
You
really
need
in
life
whether
it's
access
to
Transit,
whether
it's
a
grocery
store,
whether
it's
a
place
to
recreate
whether
it's
a
place
to
shop,
a
place
to
work
place
to
live
so
integrated
land
uses,
we
think
are
very,
is
one
of
these
common
traits?
Second
identifiable
a
place
that
is
known
by
its
character,
its
image,
something
that
goes?
Oh,
it's
like
that
postcard
shot.
Oh
that's,
downtown,
Inglewood
I
know
where
that
is
whether
that's
a
park,
whether
that's
a
Greenway,
but
it's
an
open
space,
whether
it's
a
sculpture,
whether
it's
something
iconic.
A
Fourth
is
walkable
a
place
where
people
want
to
be
because
you
can
feel
comfortable
walking
down
the
street.
You
walk
to
a
coffee
shop,
walk
to
a
restaurant,
walk
to
a
little
Park,
walk
to
the
light
rail
scaling
the
streets
properly,
so
that
you
feel
comfortable
walking
down
the
exterior
environments
and
that
usually
means
bringing
buildings
to
the
edges
of
blocks
as
opposed
to
having
big
Seas
of
parking
and
buildings
set
behind,
because
who
wants
to
walk
next
to
parking
lots
right?
A
A
Fifth,
one
here
is
varied,
and
by
that
we
mean
there
are
Revenue
producing
assets
as
well
as
again
back
to
this
mix
of
uses.
There's
cultural
assets,
there's
recreational
aspects
again,
it's
this
idea
of
a
10-minute
neighborhood,
where
everything
you
want
and
everything
you
want
to
experience
is
very
close
to
you
that
you
can
walk
to
it.
You
don't
necessarily
have
to
drive
your
car
to
it
and
then,
lastly
intuitive-
and
we
know
we've
gotten
some
comments
on
this.
A
By
intuitive,
we
mean
there's
a
logic
to
how
you
find
yourself
find
your
way
around
a
place,
whether
it's
orienting
to
a
green
space,
whether
it's
orienting
to
the
street
edges.
But
it's
also
important
to
realize
that
all
we
are
a
TOD
we
do
want
to
provide
multimodal
connectivity.
We
do
want
to
leverage
that
investment
in
transit,
that
we
still
have
the
realities
of
the
car
in
today's
environment,
and
hopefully
it's
less
getting
less,
but
we
still
have
to
be
responsive
to.
A
How
do
we
accommodate
for
parking
within
the
context
of
these
projects
as
well?
So
we
can't
totally,
you
know,
disband
a
focus
on
on
parking,
but
how
do
we
integrate
into
plans
into
buildings
so
it
becomes
more
secondary
and
subsidiary
than
again
being
just
building
surrounded
by
Seas
of
parking.
So
those
are
what
we
think
are
the
important
attributes,
and
this
is
a
kind
of
a
good
setup
for
what
we're
going
to
do
after
lunch.
I
want
you
to
think
think
about
these.
A
In
terms
of
of
how
we
can
integrate
these
basic
planning
principles
into
the
alternative
planning
exercise,
we're
going
to
do
in
terms
of
actually
drawing
and
just
to
give
you
a
little
flavor
too
of
some
places,
and
there
are
lots
of
examples,
but
a
little
bit
of
a
flavor.
You
know
beyond
the
ones
that
at
the
Troy
and
Margaret
Lizzy
had
a
great
great
examples
of
some
projects
from
the
economic
side,
and
they
probably
have
these
projects
may
have
all
many
of
those
components
as
well
from
an
economic
input
standpoint.
A
But
these
are
some
examples
of
you
know
when
we're
talking
about
envisioning,
what
city
center
can
become?
Is
you
know
locally,
for
example,
downtown
Westminster?
Really
not
that
different
from
where
you
all
are
right?
I
mean
it
was
a
big
shopping.
Mall
Transit
came
Scott
Transit
access
now
and
is
really
kind
of
turning
itself
into
the
downtown
for
Westminster.
A
They
never
really
had
it
downtown
before
Bellevue
station
just
down
the
road,
obviously
leveraging
that
investment
in
transit
at
a
much
later
date
in
terms
of
where
Transit,
in
terms
of
how
long
Transit
was
there
before
really
Redevelopment
started
to
occur
around
it.
But
but
again
it's
really
I
think
leveraging
two
things:
leveraging
access
to
Transit
and
also
leveraging
or
realizing
how
people
are
working.
Today.
A
This
was
more
of
a
Greenfield
site
but
developed
itself
into
residential.
It's
got
more
bus
access
in
terms
of
its
Transit,
but
you
know
really
has
become
a
destination
in
terms
of
of
Market
Hall
Center
there
and
hotel
tells
so
all
of
these
again.
All
of
these
projects,
many
many
others
share
I-
think
many
commonalities
of
higher
focus
on
residential
units,
a
mix
of
you
of
uses
that
includes
Hotel,
hospitality
and
and
the
appropriate
amounts
of
retail,
and
also
include
connectivity
to
Green
Space
and
Open
Spaces
identifiable
elements
within
the
projects.
A
So
with
that
I
want
to
see
if
there
are
others
think
of
other
places
that
they
like
that
go
gee.
If
City
Center
Englewood
could
become
this
there's
I
was
visiting
there,
I
was
visiting
here
or
or
anything.
You
know
you
think
about
either
these
overarching
attributes
of
principles
or
other
places
that
you've
been
that
you
think
kind
of
embody.
What
you
would
like
to
see.
The
next
steps
of
City
Center
Englewood
become.
A
V
That's
the
area
down
in
Dry
Creek.
Isn't
it?
Okay,
all
right,
I,
guess
I'll,
say
a
few
words
kind
of
we
kind
of
kicked
it
off
earlier
today
with
what
we
wanted,
what
we
don't
like!
So
when
I
look
at
these
diagrams,
it's
obviously
the
walkability
that
I'm
very
keen
on
so
I
think
of
Pearl,
Street,
I.
Think
of
what
we're
doing
on
Hampton
in
terms
of
the
wellness
center,
even
Broadway,
I
think
South.
V
Everything
else
I
am
in
favor
for
I
just
want
to
know
how
do
we
get
there,
because
it
is
something
that
I
want
to
see
and
even
that
top
left-hand
corner?
It's
walkable.
It
is
two
lanes
of
Road.
There
still
can
be
cars,
but
it
feels
very
walkable
or
it
looks
very
walkable,
so
that
to
me
is
what
sticks
up
whenever
I
look
at
some
of
these
designs.
T
Thinking
ahead,
one
of
the
things
you
know,
I
think
we
can
include
a
lot
of
that
description
in
the
solicitation
for
developers.
Now
we
have
a
lot
more
kind
of
flavor
to
work
with
and
I
think
they'll
respond
to
that
I
wanted
to
get
back
to
Amy's
question
about
what
do
we
have
to
work
with?
Certainly
we
have
a
lot
to
work
with,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
to
keep
in
mind.
T
You
know
the
complexities
or
the
constraints
that
we
have
to
work
with,
because
we
have
an
awful
lot
of
complex
constraints
and
we're
going
to
have
to
be
creative
and
proactive
to
overcome
those
and
just
to
keep
in
mind
as
we
go
into
the
analysis.
This
afternoon
we
have
a
RTD
shared
parking
requirement,
which
is
currently
top
910
cars
that
we
have
to
figure
out.
Ways
to
reduce
spread
around
deal
with
RTD
has
told
us
they
need
to
have
our
development
partner
on
board
before
they'll.
Take
our
request
seriously.
T
What
makes
sense
to
you
know
what
is
a
good
trade-off
for
termination
of
the
ground
lease
we
have
the
Civic
Center
building
and
it's
odd
location
as
it
sits
on
the
site
and
its
parking
garage.
And
then
we
have
this
Walmart
agreement
that
has
some
complexities
to
it
too,
and
those
are
going
to
have
to
be
that
that
agreement
is
going
to
have
to
be
significantly
amended.
T
So
we
we
have
this
playing
field
that
has
these
big
challenges
to
it,
and
it's
just
really
important
to
keep
those
in
mind
because
most
Tod
development
situations
don't
have
the
combination
of
challenges
that
we
have
to
deal
with.
I
think
we
can
get
through
them
with
the
right
development
partner,
but
it
is
truly
going
to
be
a
partnering
in
so.
B
Some
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
about
when,
when
I
picture
my
vision
for
City
centers,
the
amenities
that
we
have
existing
here
now,
you
know
this
is
a
hub
for
City
Hall.
We
have
our
library
here
we
have
an
Amphitheater
outside
where
we
do
concerts.
In
the
summer
we
have
a
fountain
that
draws
kids
in
the
summer.
You
know
a
place
where
we
light
a
Christmas
tree
around
Christmas
time.
B
I
would
like
to
see
a
continuation
of
this
being
a
a
gathering
hub
for
the
community,
a
place
where
residents
feel
comfortable,
coming
and
engaging
in
business
and
living,
but
also
just
being
together
and
celebrating
Inglewood,
and
as
much
as
we
can
incorporate
that
in
in
the
design.
I
see
some
very
commercial
pictures
here
that
focus
on
business
and
commerce
and
Resident,
but
I'm,
not
detecting
that
sense
of
community
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
preserve
going
forward.
G
I'll
plus
one
that
I
agree,
I
think
that
the
need
for
kind
of
a
Civic
and
cultural
Hub
or
core
in
the
city
is
still
an
important
value
for
the
community.
And
what
are
the
challenges?
You
know?
Obviously,
right
now,
the
way
it's
constructed,
it's
very
it's
circular
right.
We
have
this
circle
where
we're
kind
of
gathering
it
and
in
the
SKB
plans
it
was
much
more
kind
of
spread
out.
G
P
And
I
I
appreciate
those
comments
by
my
fellow
council
members.
I
think.
Another
thing
that's
important
to
me
is
more
what
I
don't
want
to
see
and
what
I
don't
want
it
to
be.
Like
is
every
other
Transit
oriented
development
down
the
road
I
want
this
to
look
unique
and
different.
That
will
set
us
apart
from
everything,
that's
already
been
done,
foreign.
A
Not
to
say
that
it's
going
to
look
like
something
else,
that's
already
been
done,
but
to
this
point
of
a
community
Gathering
space,
a
cultural
Hub,
a
place
where
the
community
comes
together.
Are
there
any
examples
of
places
and
they
don't
have
to
be
Transit
oriented,
but
any
other
anything
come
to
mind
just
to
help
us
kind
of
get
inside
your
head
of
what
you're
thinking
any
place
that
you
can
think
of
that
you've
been
at
a
really
that
specifically
embodies
those
Community
aspects
of
a
gathering
space.
R
K
All
right
I
can
wait
on
that,
because
I
agree
with
councilmember,
Russell
and
I.
Think
I
think
there
is
something
that
Inglewood
finds
a
bit
distasteful
for
our
our
community
as
a
cookie
cutter.
You
know
the
kind
of
that
what
I
would
call
maybe
a
managerial
kind
of
aesthetic,
an
aesthetic
that
is
that
you
could
plop
down
into
Highlands
Ranch
or
you
know
so
you
know
Suburban
somewhere
in
California
or
what
it's
the
same
everywhere
you
go
and
you
know
you
walk
in.
K
You
know
you
walk
into
that
that
coffee
shop
that's
in
there
whatever
and
it's
going
to
have
the
same
exact.
You
know
dangling
lights
or
whatever,
and
this
you
know,
there's
there's
just
there's
this
I
I
think
it's
hard
to
put
words
to,
but
there
is
a
a
copycat
aesthetic
that
is
used
in
every
single,
not
just
Transit
oriented
development,
but
but
any
retail
you
know
kind
of
Community,
Development
and
I.
Guess
that's
really
easy
to
build
to
I.
Think
developers
know
these.
Are
you
know
these
are
things
we
know
sell?
You
know
right.
K
We
know
that
if
we
come
in
and
build
a
building
that
looks
like
this
and
it
has
when
you
walk
in
the
door,
it
has
these
kind
of
this
kind
of
lighting,
this
kind
of
seating,
this
kind
of
arrangement,
these
kind
of
quotes
on
the
wall.
Everybody
knows
what
I'm
talking
about
right.
It's
the
same
thing
everywhere
you
go
and
and
and
I
don't
know.
Maybe
it's
not
possible
to
break
away
from
that.
Maybe
when
we
put
out,
you
know,
put
out
the
the
RFP
on
it.
K
Everybody's
gonna
bring
back
the
same
cookie
cutter
thing,
but
man,
wouldn't
it
be
nice
to
do
something
uniquely
Inglewood
and
I,
think
we
do
have
an
aesthetic
history
here
with
the
with
Cinderella
City,
like
you
mentioned
the
Carnation
thing
earlier,
there's
a
lot
of
historical,
aesthetic
things.
You
know
we
have
the
the
Bank
building
over
there.
That's
some
unique
architectural
Aesthetics.
But
what
do
we
need
to
you
know?
K
How
can
we
motivate
developers
to
bring
us
back
something
that
doesn't
look
like
everything
else
everywhere,
I
mean
it
is
all
so
boring
and
the
same
everywhere
and
I
don't
want
it
for
ingwood
and
and
I.
Don't
know
how
you
break
out
from
that,
because
it
really
is
kind
of
a
it
seems
to
have
metastasized.
But
that's
that's
my
opinion.
W
You
know,
building
building
unique
places
that
that
have
meaning
and
support
local
identity.
Isn't
just
nice,
it's
smart
marketing
right.
It
makes
it
makes
it
a
place
where
people
want
to
live,
where
they
want
to
move
their
business
where
they
want
to
visit
and
where
they
want
to
spend
money
and
spend
their
time.
And
so
this
is
a
very
important
topic.
It's
not
just
about
what
we
hope
for
it's
about
making
a
really
vibrant
place
in
this
community.
V
V
I
do
like
aspects
of
ninth
and
Colorado
as
well.
They
have
the
dog
park
that
or
I
think
it's
a
talk
by.
They
have
a
park
just
to
the
north,
of
all
the
restaurants
and
and
bars
in
their
area.
I
think
they
did
a
pretty
decent
job
there
in
terms
of
making
it
feel
like
a
community
I'm,
also
a
big
fan
of
what's
going
on
in
Confluence
Park,
and
that
big
Park
area
that
they
happen
to
have
out
there
on
both
sides.
They
have
businesses,
restaurants.
V
Obviously
that's
such
a
grand
scale,
but
I
do
like
what
they're
doing
there
in
terms
of
what
member
noon
Camp
brought
up.
You
don't
have
to
go
and
spend
money
there
in
order
to
enjoy
yourself.
So
there
are
aspects
of
that
that
I
do
want
to
see
here
with
the
city
center
area.
Bellevue
station
there's
still
a
lot
of
construction
going
going
on
there,
but
they
also
have
a
dog
part.
V
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Q
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
that
happened
here
in
the
last
couple
years
was
a
rezoning
effort
to
change
this
from
a
very
Suburban
surface
parking
oriented,
planned
unit
development
back
to
the
underlying,
essentially
the
downtown
zoning,
and
then
beyond
that
and
John
can
amplify.
Is
we
have
various
design
guidelines
and
efforts
that
will
come
along
with
the
development
as
well?
So
once
we
have
a
development
partner
in
place,
we're
starting
to
talk
about
how
it's
going
to
be
phased.
Q
What
the
public-private
partnership
looks
like
in
terms
of
the
investment,
then
we
come
along
in
terms
of
integrating
the
design
of
how
that
works,
so
we'll
actually
have
design
professionals
be
part
of
that.
Obviously,
the
city
council
and
the
DDA
will
be
helpful
and
instrumental
actually
in
in
defining
that
effort
and
defining
that
character,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
that
to
keep
in
mind
is
the
sense
of
Discovery
for
future
Generations
here
as
well.
One
of
the
things
that
we
probably
expect
is.
Q
H
M
This
is
our
heart
of
of
the
city.
It
and
I.
Think
that
that's
why,
when
I
think
about
the
possibilities
it's
more
than
just
redeveloping
22
acres
of
land,
it's
not
what
should
we
put
at
Bellevue
and
I-25
that
will
be
attractive
and
get
a
get
a
return
on
our
money,
both
City
and
and
developer?
It's
it's
part
of
who
we
are
today
and
I.
Think
there's
also
I've
been
trying
to
challenge
myself.
You
know
comments
that
you
made
Brad
is
where
do
we
want
to
be
in
the
future?
M
And
you
know
I
asked
myself
the
question
of
oh:
do
we
want
to
reinforce
a
community
Identity,
or
do
we
want
to
re-envision
a
community
identity
that
places
us
at
that
spot
in
the
future?
Gosh?
It's
such
a
large,
complex,
prod
project.
As
you
said,
Dan
that
we
really
need
to
probably
hone
in
on
some
specifics,
I
believe
I'm,
not
in
a
not
a
really
artistic
person,
but
I
have
people
in
my
family,
and
my
observation
is:
is
that
creativity
flourishes
when
there's
constraints?
Okay?
M
So
what
are
the
constraints
that
drive
us
to
a
solution
that
help
Focus
us
into
what
we
want
that
identity
that
Hometown
that
heart
for
us
to
be-
and
you
know
Dan
you
mentioned
some
I'll,
just
add
to
that-
there's
a
physical
area,
so
there
is
22
Acres.
There
is
a
budget,
probably
that
we
need
to
consider
what's
practical,
what's
feasible,
what
are
the
essential
needs
and
maybe
the
essential
needs
also
translate
into
what
is
the
most
most
common
thing.
We
hear
people
asking
for
in
in
the
area,
so
just
a
couple
thoughts.
A
That's
well
said:
Brad
I,
think
that
this,
uniquely
in
Inglewood,
is,
is
embedded
somehow
and
what
you're
expressing,
which
is
people
here,
really
care.
It
feels
like
this
heart
and
soul
and
trying
to
articulate
physically.
What
that
looks
like
I
think
is
an
opera
is
a
constraint
not
really
constrained,
but
is
the
opportunity
ahead
of
us
right,
but
you
feel
it
it's.
You
know
anybody
talks
about
it.
It's
just.
How
does
it
begin
to
really
physically
manifest
itself,
but
comments
well
taken
yeah,
other
thoughts,
yeah.
C
I
think
what
we're
all
talking
about
kind
of
all
hinges
on
having
space
that
is
programmable.
So
what
we
have
here
is
lovely,
like
you
were
talking
about
mayor
Pro,
tem,
where
we
have
tree
lightings
and
the
kids
are
playing
in
the
fountain
and
all
of
that,
the
Gathering
space
that
gives
us
that
sense
of
identity,
and
so
it's
not
just
building
that,
though
it
has
to
be
spaces
that
are
programmable.
C
So
you
were
asking
us
if
there
were
places
that
we
have
been
that
we
like
and
I,
went
to
one
that
I
love
and
it's
more
urban
than
what
we
would
want
to
see
here.
I
think.
But
it's
the
at
T
Plaza
in
Dallas
Texas
and
it's
old
buildings.
They
didn't
change
the
architecture
they
just
sort
of
spruced
it
up.
They
built
a
food
Hall
in
one
old
building,
that's
not
homogeneous
like
every
other
food
Hall
across
the
country.
It's
very
unique.
They
have
a
beautiful
Fountain.
C
C
They've
got
some
green
space
too
I
don't
know
if
I
said
that
they
have
grass
it's
fake,
it's
there
all
year
and
there's
people
of
all
ages,
Gathering
all
the
time,
there's
outdoor
dining,
so
I
think
that
it's
important
to
think
about
how
does
the
built
environment
contribute
to
Gathering
people,
but
it
has
to
be
a
programmable
space.
It
doesn't
just
happen
so
I
think
we
need
to
keep
that
in
mind
too.
L
I'll
piggyback
on
that
a
little
bit
I'm
working
on
a
development
actually
in
South
Westminster
right
at
the
Westminster
Light
Rail,
stop
on
28
acres
and
we're
under
contract
to
sell
it
to
a
local
developer.
Zocalo
who's
been
working
on
this
for
three
years,
but
what
they
did
is
they
went
out
to
the
community
and
a
lot
of
the
stakeholders
and
it's
very
music
driven
in
South
Westminster,
with
Colorado
sound
Swallow,
Hill,
Music
and
a
couple
of
other
groups,
and
so
for
this
28
acre
development.
L
The
concert
venues
kind
of
tiered
so
when
it's
not
being
used
as
a
concert
venue,
it's
a
park
and
kids
are
running
around
and
able
to
play
on
that
open
space
and
behind
it
they're
doing
this
mixed-use
development,
that
is
apartments
and
single-family
housing,
but
it
it
that
kind
of,
like
you
know,
morphs
into
the
the
background
that
is
really
you
know
led
by
this
Catalyst.
That's
going
to
bring
people
to
the
area.
L
You
know
seven
days
a
week
and
utilize
the
space
and
help
make
the
development
that
sits
behind
it
successful
and
long-lasting
and
speaks
to
the
identity
of
Southern,
Westminster
and
groups
that
are
already
there.
That
can
use
this
new
development
and
new
space
to
advance.
What
they've
already
been
doing
for
a
long
time.
A
Anyone
else
we'll
have
plenty
of
time
to
talk
about
this
when
we
do
our
breakout
sessions
right
after
lunch,
so
I'm
sensing
everybody's
really
hungry,
it's
a
great
time,
we're
right
on
schedule
at
noon,
good
time
to
break
and
we'll
have
a
half
hour,
lunches
are
in
the
back
corner
and
then
we'll
reconvene
right
after
lunch.
So
thank
you
all
good
comments,
good
feedback.
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A
That
was
a
really
good
lunch.
Thank
you
Nancy
and
City
team
who
put
that
together.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
are
going
to
break
out
into
some
smaller
group
sessions
in
just
a
minute
or
two
here
and
I'll,
describe
how
we're
going
to
do
that.
But
first
we
have
a
news
flash
from
Hillary
and
the
Edda.
So
Hillary
would
like
to
add
something
in
here.
Breaking.
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W
W
We
also
have
an
interim
situation
that
we
need
to
work
together
on
and
that's
the
current
conditions
of
this
property
while
we're
doing
our
long-range
planning,
while
the
the
retailers
are
running
through
their
leases,
we
have
low
foot
traffic,
more
concerns
about
crime
and
safety
in
the
area
and
a
shared
interest
in
Shoring
things
up.
So
many
downtowns
around
the
country
right
now
are
trying
to
fill
vacant
spaces
with
temporary
uses,
pop-up
retail
promotions
Etc.
W
So
we
started
thinking
about
what
that
might
look
like
here
in
city
center
and
reached
out
to
several
reputable
organizations
that
represent
those
local
identity,
values,
Cultural
Arts,
local
history
and
Small
Business
Development,
and
ask
them
what?
If
we
could
provide
you
with
very
low-cost
space
for
a
one
to
two
year
period,
to
help
you
incubate
and
build
new
ideas.
W
What
if
the
Inglewood
Economic
Development
departner
Department
played
a
role,
we're
working
with
security,
we're
working
with
all
Health
Network
on
homeless,
Outreach
Services
and
we're
we're
building
something
right
here
and
making
this
area
marketable
safer,
attractive
and
fun?
Okay,
everybody
said:
yeah,
that's
great,
we're
in
we'll
figure
it
out,
let's
work
together,
but
it
all
depends
on
the
private
property
owner.
W
W
We
will
we
will
provide
space,
the
art
walk,
apartment,
space,
Around,
The
Fountains
that
has
been
empty
for
years
at
no
cost
to
the
Inglewood
Historical
Society
The
Guild,
which
is
a
shared
space,
small
business
operator
that
is
going
to
be
converting
into
a
small
business
incubator
model
and
Redline
Contemporary
Arts
Center,
which
provides
affordable
Studios
to
local
artists,
as
well
as
Community
Arts
programming,
so
we'll
all
be
meeting
with
the
property
manager
next
week
to
get
things
rolling.
I
want
to
publicly
thank
you
for
starting
this
out.
It's
a
great
initial
public-private
partnership.
W
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U
A
A
We
actually
get
to
put
some
pens
in
our
hands
and
you're
all
willing
to
get
if
you're
willing,
you
put
some
pens
in
your
hands
too.
I
saw
John
kind
of
fast
scribbling
on
top
of
some
things
over
there
also,
but
we're
gonna
break
out
into
three
groups,
and
we
have
three
options
and
I
want
to
stress
that
word
option.
They
are
just
points
of
beginning
for
us
to
begin
a
dialogue
about
some
potential
ways
of
how
we
might
refine
this
master
plan
for
City
Center.
A
A
We
certainly
have
heard
this
morning
to
develop
a
plan
that
incorporates
this
building,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
roll
up
our
sleeves,
we're
gonna,
reconfigure,
the
tables
here
slightly,
and
we
have
three
different
breakout
groups
and
we're
going
to
myself
and
Ryan
and
Laurel
from
dig
we're
going
to
kind
of
facilitate
a
discussion
for
a
half
hour
each
at
each
table
on
the
three
options.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
half
hour,
the
groups
will
rotate.
A
So
you
will
get
a
chance
to
comment
and
give
feedback
on
all
three
plans,
so
you'll
just
move
from
one
group
to
the
next
table
to
the
next
table
and
how
you
know
what
group
you're
in
is,
if
you're
wondering
what
that
dot
was
on
the
back
of
your
name
tag,
you
either
got
a
yellow
red
or
blue.
So
we'll
start
with
yellow
over
here
in
this
corner
red
over
here
in
this
corner
and
we're
going
to
put
blue
and
blue
in
the
back.
So
so
that's
going
to
be
our
exercise.
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A
A
Thank
you.
The
park
becomes
a
much
bigger,
Park
usable
space.
Then,
on
the
back
side,
there
could
be
a
taller,
Tower
residential
tower
that
could
be
potentially
even
higher
in
height
than
typically
what
we
were
thinking
earlier
of.
Five
to
you
know,
four
to
five
six
story:
buildings.
Maybe
this
is
10
to
12
stories
to
take
advantage
of
the
western
views,
but
again
the
economics
of
that
would
need
to
be
played
through.
As
you
get
taller,
you
get
a
different
building
systems
and
life
safety,
Health
Systems
within
a
building.
A
A
City
hall
building
would
be
served
by
parking
in
this
front.
It
would
be
at
the
base
of
this
Residential
Building
would
serve
here.
It
would
also
serve
the
hotel,
which
has
visibility
off
of
Hampden,
and
then
these
two
blocks,
or
this
bigger
super
block,
gets
split
into
special
street
down
the
middle
and
then
two
larger.
A
You
know
Market,
probably
market
rate
residential
buildings
in
here
and
probably
affordable
in
one
of
these
two
buildings
in
terms
of
housing,
distribution,
change,
the
block
orientation
for
better
solar
exposure,
as
well
as
a
kind
of
a
visibility
Corridor
into
Inglewood
Parkway
as
well.
So,
interestingly
enough,
the
three
groups
have
rotated
through
and
kind
of
all
rotated
to
this
idea.
A
Should
I
touch
on
your
big
idea?
Okay,
okay!
Well,
we
will
save
that
for
the
edit
because
it
really
applies
to
any
of
them,
okay,
so
anyway,
so
that
was
really
kind
of
all
three
groups
kind
of
landed
on
this
direction
in
a
scheme
that
keeps
City
Hall
in
its
current
location.
But
again
you
know
the
financing
aspect
of
that
and
operations.
Maintenance
Etc
needs
to
be
looked
at.
So
what's
up.
K
K
You
know
go
around
to
the
left
or
something
like
that
after
they
get
past
that
building
but
you're
you're,
and
then
you
you
can
open
up
that
space
along
where
Inca
is
to
even
more
more
green
space
and
and
make
it
think
of
the
place
rather
more
as
a
destination
rather
than
taking
Inca
just
past
having
income
just
be
a
pass-through
for
cars
going
up
to
Dartmouth
or
whatever.
Okay.
U
A
AE
L
Is
important,
yeah,
no
I
think
that
if
City
Hall
remains
or
if
you
create
more
open
space,
it
just
requires
more
density
on
the
east
and
west
sides
of
the
plan
so
that
you
can
still
hit
the
the
development
numbers
that
make
sense
to
come
in
and
pay
the
price
for
the
for
the
the
real
estate.
I.
Think
that
specific
to
the
City
Hall
that
we
talked
about
I
I
would
be
inclined
to
figure
out
how
to
keep
this
building
if
we
can
come
up
with
the
use.
L
That
is
the
draw
that
can
use
this
building.
If
it's
going
to
be
used
as
Office
Space
I,
don't
know
if
it's
it's
financially
viable.
So
it's
it's.
What
what
can
be
done
here
or
brought
here?
That's
going
to
draw
someone
from
outside
of
the
area
to
come
to
Englewood
in
this
footprint
and
if
that
doesn't
exist,
I
think
it's
a
really
hard
piece
to
try
to
keep
in
its
present
form.
S
S
L
C
What
if
this
building
had
like
different
paint,
and
maybe
some
beautiful,
modern
wood
on
this
facade
and
on
the
inside
it
offered
a
specialty
grocery
store
a
food
Hall,
a
wine
shop?
What
else
did
I
say
movie
theater
a
bowling
alley,
a
Historic
Society,
a
museum:
all
of
these
uses
are
compatible
with
a
building.
That's
designed
to
be
interior
facing,
which
is
what
I
hear,
is
an
issue
with
this
one.
AD
C
AB
AB
AB
Each
one
of
the
groups
that
met
with
option
three-
this
is
three
not
two
came
up
with
different
ideas,
so
I'll
just
show
all
three
of
them
really
quickly.
What
what
this
was
specific
about?
This
one
was
the
idea
of
the
two
yellow
streets
of
the
middle
large
open
space
in
the
Middle
with
pedestrian
oriented
oriented
streets
were,
were
there
indicated
in
yellow
all
the
all.
The
orange
buildings
are
indicated
as
housing
with
parking,
and
then
it's
moving
the
hotel
and
the
City
Hall
out
to
Hampton.
AB
AB
No,
not
pedestrians,
excuse
me
more
residential
oriented
street,
so
the
idea
here
was
that
you
could
actually
have
entries
at
the
ground
level
on
those
buildings
instead
of
making
that
a
retail
Street
concentrating
the
retail
Street
along
Englewood
Parkway,
with
potentially
keeping
retail
along
there
and
even
parking
along
there,
potentially
allowing
these
two
streets
to
be
closed
off
if
you
want
to,
but
that
they're
still
circulating
streets
that
go
through
especially
Inca
I.
Think
we
felt
on
this.
One
was
really
important.
AB
Making
this
building
over
here
a
much
bigger,
bigger
building
with
a
large
parking
structure
associated
with
it.
That
would
work
with
the
art,
RTD
or
the
light
rail,
although
there
would
be
parking
in
all
of
these.
So
that's
that
one
another
fun
thing
that
came
out
of
this
one
was
emphasizing
the
entry
along
Hamden
and
creating
a
Gateway
feeling
off
of
Hampden
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
that
this
is
the
center
of
the
town.
AB
So
then
the
second
one,
as
you
can
see,
is
going
to
be
great
minds,
think
alike
a
little
bit
different
and
that
the
city
hall
was
moved
up
into
this
location,
same
big
block
strategy
on
this
side:
emphasis
on
the
north-south
circulation
through
again
with
less
emphasis
on
the
on
this
circulation
because
it
doesn't
come
all
the
way
through.
It's
actually
broken
at
this
point.
AB
So
those
are
you
know
you
bring
people
through
here
and
they
have
to
turn
either
way,
but
taking
the
open
space
and
bringing
it
all
the
way
through
and
identifying
a
center
focal
spot
in
the
middle
that
you
can
see
both
coming
in
from
the
north
coming
in
potentially,
if
you
moved
it
over
here,
coming
in
from
Englewood
Parkway
and
coming
in
from
the
south.
So
this
focal
point
would
be
the
identity
that
everybody
would
recognize
as
the
Town
Center
I'm,
not
sure,
oh
Hotel
office.
AB
AB
The
idea
here
was
that
not
to
let
it's
a
Lottie
right,
Anka
I
knew
I,
had
it
wrong
not
to
let
Inca
go
all
the
way
through
as
a
driving
street,
but
to
actually
bring
people
in
from
the
north
and
turn
them
down.
Englewood
Parkway
bring
people
in
from
this
side
turn
them
down
this
new
Cinderella
street,
whatever
it's
called
and
Cinderella
sorry
Cinder,
app
or
Cinder
whatever
Ally,
and
then
make
these
streets
these
streets,
usable,
but
they're
pedestrian
bus
fire
lane
streets.
AB
You
could
even
put
it
in
the
middle
of
the
park.
It
could
be
a
smaller
structure
that
is
related
to
the
park,
because
you've
got
parking
associated
with
all
these
buildings
and
potentially
a
big
structure
here.
Another
thing
we
talked
in
all
of
them
was
the
fact
that
now
that
we
have
Walmart
owning
our
Broncos,
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we
can
get
this
street
a
real
Street
and
not
pass
through
through
a
parking
lot.
AB
That
Englewood
Parkway
needs
to
be
closed
off
as
a
street,
with
pedestrian
walkways
on
both
sides
and
not
be
used
the
way
it
is
now
because
it's
so
important
to
get
people
off
Hampden
and
onto
Englewood
Parkway
so
that
they
know
they're
in
the
Town
Center,
because
otherwise
they
don't
so
those
were.
The
three
did.
I
miss
anything
for
anybody.
Who's
on
these
groups
that,
like
these
retail
around
the
park
and
this
one
and
I
think
the
other
ones
were
very
similar
in
that
thinking
that
there's
still
some
ground
sheer
ground
floor
retail.
AB
V
AB
This
one
was
out
of
the
core
trying
to
get
it
as
pedestrian
friendly
and
as
flexible,
so
that
you
know
you
could
you
could
keep
these
streets
open,
sometimes
when
you
need
to,
but
you
could
close
them
all
down
and
have
like
what
was
that
place?
We
saw
in
Cleveland
where
they
every
every
weekend.
They
have
Farmers
events
and
all
that.
AB
G
K
AE
AB
AB
U
AB
City
Hall
could
be
on
any
one
of
these
I
mean
that's
what
we
were
looking
at
as
long
as
we
felt
I
think
the
groups
I
talked
to
felt
very
strongly
that
they
wanted
city
hall
because
of
the
lighting
the
Christmas
tree
because
of
the
concerts
because
of
the
library
that
they
wanted,
that
feeling
of
having
it
associated
with
the
green
space.
The
other
thing
we
really
liked
about
this
was
when
you
look
in.
AB
If
this
is
your
fountain,
which
is
in
exactly
the
location,
you
have
it
today
that
you
can
see
that
from
down
Englewood
Parkway,
you
can
see
it
from
the
north.
You
can
see
it
from
the
south
when
you
turn
so
your
iconic
element
is
there
that
you
can
see
from
all
locations
as
you
come
in,
except
this
street.
Of
course,.
AH
AB
AH
One
word
of
caution
is
like
closing:
off
streets
will
have
a
ripple
effect
in
other
parts
of
the
community,
especially
like
the
residential
up
there,
I
mean
from
CDOT
standpoint.
Inc
is
a
very
important
Street.
It's
a
signalized
intersection.
That's
already
permitted
that
way,
and
so,
if
you
start
to
redistribute
the
traffic
every
one
of
the
other
signals
along
that
Corridor
is
going
to
have
to
be
re-looked
at
and
then
it
will
affect
the
neighborhoods
around
the
perimeter.
AB
AB
P
M
M
AH
Totally
get
understand
the
concept
it
just
gets
challenging
when
there's
there's
just
really
choppy
Street
grid
system
up
in
there,
and
it
will
start
to
divert
cut
that
cut
through
traffic
through
the
neighborhoods.
So
just
something
to
be
careful
about,
there
could
be
Traffic
Solutions,
but
just
something
to
think
I.
AB
Think
I
think
the
interesting
thing
about
this
plan
too.
If
you
wanted
to,
you,
could
decide
that
this
section
stays
open,
but
this
closes
from
here
to
here
or
do
the
opposite.
Keep
this
open
and
close
that
section
or
you
could
have
it
where
it's
open
most
the
time,
but
it's
closed
when
you
want
it
to
be
I,
don't
think
it
ruins
the
plan
and
we're
being
Pie
in
the
Sky.
We
wanted
cars
out
of
here
so.
AE
M
M
Just
traveling
that
intersection
there
are
times
when
I
can't
turn
on
Inca,
because
there's
so
much
traffic
on
285,
I,
I,
hop
off
of
Santa
Fe
and
I
either
have
to
turn
right
at
Jason
and
sneak
around.
You
know
the
vet
in
the
Burger
King
to
head
back
North
on
Inca
or
I,
go
down
to
the
next
block
and
turn
left
just
to
get
into
the
area.
So
it's
already
a
problem
intersection.
So.
AB
And
it
would
be
nice
to
some
degree,
I
mean
not
that
everybody's
going
to
agree
to
keep
this
is
Galapago,
keep
keep
people
yeah
to
keep
more
people
on
that
street.
Where
there's
you
know
where
parking
lots
and
all
that
and
let
this
become
more
pedestrian,
friendly
and
core
in
its
feeling
right.
Well,
my
they're
not
going
to
complain
yeah.
A
I
do
think,
there's
back
to
our
earlier
history,
photographs
and
diagrams,
so
I
think
there's
something
very
intriguing
about
kind
of
a
hearkening
back
to
this
being
a
bigger
park
space.
You
know
from
what
we
saw
originally
back
in
when
it
was
1953
I
mean
to
this
kind
of
recall
of
what's
Inglewood
about
and
what's
its
history
I
could
see
a
lot
of
possibilities
in
a
bigger
park.
Space
like
that.
L
We
in
our
group
we
talked
about
like
how
do
you
have
the
Catalyst
for
the
area
in
the
space
and
like
even
doing
something?
That's
maybe
less
expensive,
lower
brow
like
putting
in
an
ice
rink
or
putting
in
something
that
you
know
makes
that
a
park
that
people
outside
of
Englewood
would
want
to
come
to
and
spend
time
and
go
eat.
All
you
know
off
of
could
be
pretty
easy
and
lower
hanging
fruit
than
and
the
other
thing
I'll
mention
in
a
little.
AD
But
again,
some
of
the
big
things
we
talked
about
that
were
recurring
in
all.
The
groups
were
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
hotel
or
a
hotel
being
back
here
behind
Chuck
E
cheese,
that
kind
of
accomplishes
visibility
both
from
Hampden
as
well
as
from
Santa
Fe.
If
it's
tall
enough
a
couple
groups
talked
about,
it
could
be
cool
if
it
had
a
roof
deck.
Even
without
it.
The
views
would
be
really
great
to
the
north
to
the
west
to
the
South,
so
it
could
be
a
pretty
signature.
AD
Building
that
you
see
from
from
the
highway
and
from
Hampden,
potentially
the
other
big
theme
was
that
there
needs
to
be
something
visible
and
iconic
really
on
access
with
both
Englewood
Parkway
and
Inca
Street,
that
you
see
from
those
points
and
particularly
that
you
see
from
Hampden,
we
tossed
around
the
idea
of
it
being
city
hall
or
being
some
sort
of
Beacon
of
public
art.
A
vertical
element.
That's
lit
up
some
sort
of
Jewel
box
structure
in
the
park.
That's
maybe
a
pavilion
museum
event
space
that's
beautifully
lit
at
night
right.
AD
It
could
be
all
sorts
of
things,
but
that
really
the
street
Network
set
up
really
well
for
it
to
be
kind
of
right,
visible
on
access
for
both
those
streets.
Also
that
City
Hall
could
be
in
a
number
of
places,
but
that
generally
people
really
liked
the
idea
of
it
being
on
the
park
and
having
that
Civic
relationship,
we
actually
one
one
group
we
talked
about
it
being
here,
sort
of
when
you
come
down
the
stairs
that
it's
at
Beyond.
AD
You
know
right
in
your
line
of
sight,
which
was
kind
of
an
interesting
idea
in
terms
of
the
blocks
being
broken
up
into
four
kind
of
mixed
mixed
reviews
on
that.
So
there
were
concerns
about
people
like
the
idea
of
maybe
one
of
them
being
just
pedestrian
only
passageway,
but
making
sure
that
design
was
such
that
you
try
to
minimize
security
concerns
that
it's
well
lit,
Etc.
Actually,
one
interesting
idea,
I'm
just
going
to
sketch
over
this,
was
doing
this
with
a
passageway.
AD
AD
AD
In
in
this,
what
I
sketched?
Yes,
because
in
several
of
the
conversations,
that's
kind
of
where
it
landed,
but
again
different
groups
talked
about
it.
It
was.
It
was
more
important
that
it
had
a
relationship
to
the
park
than
it
was
specifically
where
it
was
I
would
think
I
think
right.
Anyone
want
to
disagree
with
that.
You
can't
did
I
miss
anything
from.
U
AD
AD
S
You
could
see
right
through
and
you
can
see
your
Park
diagonally
right
through
it,
and
so
then
Hampton
has
that
visual
corridor
to
your
Park,
which
is
otherwise
hidden
and
you'd,
have
to
find
it
not
from
Hampton,
but
you'd
have
to
know
it's
there
and
it
eliminates
more
of
your
interior,
roads
and
gosh.
That
plan
has
a
lot
of
asphalt
on
it.
L
It
also
draws
I
think
a
lot.
You
know
kind
of
back
to
the
conversation
to
the
Galapagos
Hamden
intersection
being
kind
of
a
major
intersection,
keeping
more
people
off
of
Inca
from
that
kind
of
corner.
How
you
kind
of
look
in
through
that
and
if
you're
looking
at
the
connectivity
of
going
to
the
South
Side,
it
seems
like
that
Corridor
would
plug
really
well
to
pop
South
on
Galapagos,
pedestrian,
friendly
or
cars.
G
Okay,
I'll
plus
one
I
think
that
the
line
of
sight
from
Galapago
is
really
interesting
and
I
like
that.
You
can
see
whatever
the
jewel
box
thing
is
at
the
corner
of
the
park
from
two
places
now
on
Hampton,
hypothetically
from
Galapago
and
from
Inca,
and
then
you
can
still
maintain
Inca
as
a
through
Affair,
which
I
still
like,
and
then
maybe
you
make
the
horizontal
from
Galapago.
That's
the
pedestrian
street
that
can
be
utilized
for
different
things.
G
Our
team
had
discussed,
putting
the
jewel
box
piece,
putting
actually
City
Hall
they're
kind
of
at
the
corner
of
the
L-shaped
Park,
which
I
think
is
interesting.
How
do
you
make
it
accessible
and
kind
of
a
little
bit
separated
from
the
different
commercial
areas
and
residential
areas,
but
still
have
green
space
on
either
side?
I
think
that's
interesting,
but
I
really
like
the
horizontal
or
the
diagonal.
Excuse
me.
AD
And
one
thing
I
would
add
to
it:
I
was
just
thinking
is
that
gallopago
also
North
and
South
I?
Think
if
you
think
long
term
in
the
future,
you
know
things
becoming
more
pedestrian
friendly,
connects
to
more
directly
more
into
the
neighborhoods
than
Inca
sort
of
skirts
them
right.
And
when
you
go
south
of
Hampden,
it's
a
little
wonky
for
walking.
So
the
potential
for
Galapago
to
become
more
of
a
north-south
pedestrian
bike
route
through
City,
Center
and
connect.
The
neighborhoods
on
the
North
and
South
as
well
is,
is
pretty
strong.
G
The
only
thing
I'll
add-
and
this
was
from
another
conversation-
is
the
more
we
can
break
up
from
Hampton
the
between
Inca
and
Galapago,
even
if
whether
it's
diagonal
or
whether
the
if
we
want
to
do
two
large
buildings,
if
they
go
if
they
run
north
to
south
instead
of
east
to
west,
it
just
gives
more
visual
interest
from
Hampton
right
now.
Hampton
has
very
little
visual
interest
or
kind
of
attractiveness
from
the
curb
the
more
we
can
do
to
draw
people
in
any
way.
G
We
configure
this
the
better
and
that's
why,
in
many
of
the
groups
I've
been
I
was
really
pushing
for
this,
like
this
Gateway
idea,
how
do
we
create
this
identifiable
destination
place?
That
says
this
is
our
city
center.
This
is
an
invitation
to
come
into
this
place,
that's
full
of
character
and
creativity,
but
adds
a
lot
more
visual
interest
from
the
street
foreign.
A
Of
drawing
in
Alternatives
right,
you
start
with
three
and
you
end
up
with
six
seven,
but
I
mean
I.
Do
think
that
when
I'm
hearing
are
some
common
principles,
regardless
of
the
kind
of
ultimate
configuration
of
roads
and
angles
or
going
through
not
going
through,
but
maybe
some
common
principles
that
are
consistent
amongst
all
these
number
one
is
this
relationship
of
City
Hall
to
the
main
public
Community
Gathering
space?
A
Two?
Is
this
idea
of
visibility
and
gateways
and
connections?
You
know
into
City
Center,
not
feeling
like
it's.
It's
walled
off
three.
Is
you
know
again
this
or
nothing?
We've
said
this
all
along,
but
this
notion
of
Greater
connectivity
going
to
the
east
I'm
not
didn't,
hear
anything
about
office
in
terms
of
a
real
desirable
land
use,
but
definitely
Hotel
and
then
a
range
of
housing.
C
U
C
U
V
Right
actually
I'm
going
to
speak
up
just
because
I,
it
just
occurred
to
me,
there's
something
that
we
missed
in
this.
But
we
really
didn't
talk
about
the
rail
trail
aspect
of
it
was
so.
The
master
plan
is
to
connect
from
the
north
part
of
the
city,
where
the
Ironworks
development
occurs
all
the
way
south
and
we've
already
accomplished
some
of
the
rail
trail
from
the
north
to
Dartmouth,
I
believe
and
then
again,
south
of
Hampton
I
guess.
V
A
He
had
John,
you
wanna
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
about
the
the
broader
connectivity.
The
rail
trail
I
know
when
we
talked
about
in
the
downtown
plan,
we'd
actually
kind
of
identified
Inca
because
it
was
signalized
as
kind
of
a
it
was
a
route
for
it
to
come
and
go
south,
but
from
North
and
and
the
in
the
in
the
Redevelopment
up
here.
Is
it
coming
down
Inca
or
coming
along
the
rail
Corridor
in.
H
Previous
planning
efforts,
such
as
the
stationary
master
plan
and
the
next
step
studies.
Basically,
it
was
supposed
to
it.
The
the
routing
was
to
parallel
very
closely
the
the
light
rail
line
itself
and
was
to
also
use
the
dips
where,
where
Hampton
goes,
underneath
the
railroad
as
well
as
Dartmouth
being
able
to
also
extend
a
pedestrian
bridge
in
those
areas
as
well.
Okay,
parallel
to
the
railroad
lines.
U
A
A
U
A
Has
really
kind
of
become
that
attraction?
We've
talked
some
of
the
little
groups
about,
could
be
an
abstraction
of
the
of
the
old
dry
creek
and
opportunities
for
kids
to
play
in
water
and
pretend
they're
mining
or
you
know,
but
it
kind
of
a
history
or
a
timeline
of
Englewood
as
well,
could
be
I
think
incorporated
into
that
idea
in
terms
of
the
Green
Space,
so
something
that
could
really
be
a
a
draw
outdoor
sculpture,
outdoor
light.
You
know
something
at
night
that
that
could
attract
people
as
well,
so.
K
If
I
could
jump
in
real,
quick
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
of
seeing
this
plan
where
it
broke
up
that
initial,
the
initial
idea
had
that
blocked
to
the
east
broken
up
into
four
pieces
which
I
don't
think
we
we
weren't,
you
know
I,
think
most
a
lot
of
us
landed
on.
Let's
just
have
break
that
up
in
One
Direction,
but
I.
Think
that
points
to
a
broader
principle
of
if
we're
trying
to
you
know,
keep
our
our
public
infrastructure
cost
down.
K
Then,
let's
not
build
build
roads.
We
that
aren't
necessary.
You
know
necessary
to
make
sure
we
have
sufficient
flow
of
the
traffic
so
whether
that
goes
diagonal
or
straight
north
and
south
or
east
and
west
I
think
it
you
lose
a
fit.
You
know
you
lose
efficiency
of
those
structures
by
having
a
road
cutting
them
in
half,
but
you
also
are
building
extra
roads,
so
your
public
infrastructure
costs
go
down
and
the
use
utility
of
the
structures.
K
K
Is
it
working
okay,
okay?
Well,
anyway,
the
I
scared,
it
I,
guess
the
you
know,
I,
don't
know
why
we
need
it
in
this
particular
drawing
quite
so
many
roads
and
intersections
on
the
west
side
of
the
plan.
You
know,
if
they're
necessary
to
for
the
proper
flow
of
traffic
and
everything,
but
I
would
like
to
keep
that.
That's
one
of
the
things
I
didn't
like
about
the
SKB
plan.
K
A
Yeah
and
just
to
give
everybody
a
sense
of
scale,
a
block
like
this:
the
parameters
of
this
about
250
by
oh,
what
is
it
400
and
something
almost
500
like
480
250
by
40.?
That's
the
size
of
a
typical
downtown
Denver
block.
So,
if
you
think
about
those
areas
in
downtown,
that's
typically
what
that
size
is
they're
longer
in
twice
as
long
as
they.
R
A
A
Is
that
a
is
that
a
safe
assumption
to
to
kind
of
work
on,
as
we
refine
these
to
a
next
step,
or
just
put
that
out
here
to
the
table,
as
we
did
hope
that
we
come
out
of
here
with
One
Direction?
But
you
know
we
understand.
This
is
a
process.
We
understand
this
is
iterative,
but
we
do
need
to
try
to
kind
of
narrow
the
focus
on
these
options
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
get
a
temperature
of
the
room.
In
regards
to
that,
you
know
a
one
or
two
Alternatives
versus
one
alternative.
S
A
Its
cost
challenges
and
implications
which
have
to
be
studied,
or
are
we
moving
forward
with
two
plans
that
gets
rid
of
this
building
and
you
know
kind
of
in
whether
it's
you
know
the
the
park
here
or
like
the
scheme
2
that
Laurel
had
you
know
kind
of
keeps
the
bigger
gridded
blocks
around
a
central,
open
space,
and
maybe
maybe
there's
an
angle
in
there.
We'd
look
at
that
one
or
the
other,
but
but
basically
moving
forward
with
this
with
two
plans
as
opposed
to
one
is
the
is
the
simple
question.
V
I
guess
I'll
start
off
I
I
think
this
is.
This
is
probably
where
we're
going
to
differ
as
a
council
in
terms
of
what
our
next
step
is
I'm
just
of
the
opinion
that
keeping
this
building,
as
this
I
think
is
probably
not
economically
feasible,
so
my
preference
would
be
to
just
look
at
just
the
Redevelopment
of
the
entire
area
without
the
the
current
building
in
place.
If
there
is
a
way
to
make
it
feasible
to
include
this
building
in
any
future
development
that
I'm,
okay
with
it
I,
just
don't
think
it's
possible.
W
This
is
done
on
to
operate
this
building
and
what
it's
likely
lifespan
is
going
to
be.
It's
two-thirds
empty
now.
Can
the
city
afford
to
operate
it
over
the
long
term?
I,
don't
know.
When
I
worked
at
the
Lowry
Air
Force
Base
Redevelopment,
we
did
do
reuse
studies
of
some
of
the
existing
buildings
to
determine
their
reuse
value
over
the
long
term.
W
C
I
liked
what
councilman
Anderson
said
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
where
you
know,
maybe
we
leave
it
as
an
option
to
developers
and
if
a
proposal
comes
in
that
does
include
reusing
this
building,
then
maybe
we
give
that
extra
consideration,
but
if
all
of
the
developers
say
there's
no
way
to
make
this
work
and
we
can
still
get
you
know
more
green
space
and
more
attainable
housing
and
the
list
of
things
that
we
would
like.
Then
then
we
evaluate
the
proposals
accordingly,.
G
I
agree
with
that
approach
as
well,
and
what
I
can
tack
onto
my
comments
from
this
morning
is
I'm
not
wed
to
this
building
remaining
City
Hall
I
think
it
could
be
different
things,
and
maybe
it
can't
that's
I
think
the
outstanding
question
that
I
don't
have
Clarity
on
and
so
leaving
it
as
an
option
to
the
developer.
I
think
is
interesting
to
me.
S
Interestingly
enough,
you
see
that
hotel
right
there
on
that.
One
and
I
don't
really
like
this
overall
design,
but
that
hotelier
would
have
a
lot
of
incentive
to
go
to
Chuck,
E
cheese
and
say:
what's
it
going
to
cost
to
get
you
to
go
away
because
he
could
double
the
size
of
his
hotel
and
take
that
hard
Corner
that
is
Santa,
Fe
and
Hampden
from
a
visibility
standpoint.
That's
like
80,
000,
Cars,
This,
Way
60.
This
way,
that's
a
winner,
so
yep
and.
G
L
I
think
the
way
that
the
mayor
put
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
I.
Think
that
hearing
everyone's
kind
of
want
for
more
open
space,
more
views,
more
pedestrian,
friendly
access
goes
against.
Keeping
this
building
in
its
present
form
with
how
it
sits
on
the
site
and
I
think,
would
impact
allowing
more
open
space
alongside
the
amount
of
development
that's
required
to
make
it
feasible.
R
K
K
Just
put
it
out
and
say
hey
if
you
can
make
it
work
with
this,
the
Civic
Center,
then
you
know
that
if
two
two
ideas,
otherwise
financially
being
equal
and
having
equal
amount
of
open
space
or-
or
you
know
enough
open
space
to
satisfy
kind
of
our
desires,
then
you
know
somebody
like
me
is
going
to
side
with
the
one
that
keeps
the
Civic
Center.
Maybe
there's
a
developer
out
there
that
goes.
This
is
what
we
specialize
in.
We
do
food
hauls.
We
convert.
K
You
know
old
buildings
into
new
stuff,
put
it
out
to
the
market.
If
the
market
can
come
up
with
something,
then
that's
the
one
I
want
to.
You
know
that
that's
competitive
with
the
others.
That's
the
one
I
would
want
to
go
with,
but
if
they
come
back
and
say
no,
then
okay,
it's
not
you
know
it's
not
meant
to
be.
Sometimes
it
is
best
just
to
start
from
scratch.
B
I've
already
made
my
pitch
for
keeping
this
building
so
I'll
spare
everybody
else
that
at
this
point,
my
concern
is
that
the
two
plans
method
pays
lip
service
to
the
concept
of
keeping
this
building,
but
doesn't
actually
take
that
concept
seriously.
So
I,
as
opposed
to
just
going
full
bore
on
the
idea
that
we're
going
to
bulldoze
this
building
I
would
take
both
plans
to
a
developer
and
say
hey.
B
P
What
I
would
like
to
suggest
is
that
we
move
forward
with
keeping
the
building,
but
also
adding
the
option
of
working
a
plan
around
that
would
perhaps
redesign
what
this
building
could
be
10
years
from
now
15
20
years
from
now,
so
that
we
can
keep
the
building
now
with
a
plan
in
the
future
that
we
don't
have
to
redo.
The
entire
development
I
think
I
think
that's
wise.
As
far
as
cost
to
the
city.
P
M
I
guess
the
question
I
have
when
we
consider
keeping
this
building
or
not
keeping
the
building
kind
of
for
me
boils
down
to
am
I
married
to
the
building
or
am
I
concerned
about
the
value
that
it
represents
to
the
city
and
I
would
say
my
response
to
that
is
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
the
value
that
it
represents
to
the
city.
So,
if
there's
an
there's
a
good
exchange
for
the
value
I,
it
opens
up
possibilities
for
design
of
of
the
area
so
that
we're
not
just
giving
the
building
away
to
be
bulldozed.
B
I
think
that's
a
pretty
good
summary
I
mean
the
value
of
this
building.
As
I
see,
it
is
about
1.4
million
dollars
a
year
because
that's
what
we
were
paying
on
the
mortgage.
So
as
long
as
the
utilities
costs
and
the
maintenance
costs
are
less
than
that
we're
saving
money
every
year
we
stay
in
this
building,
so
the
the
other
standpoint
is
that
the
community
I
have
community
members
who
are
telling
me
that
they
want
to
preserve
this
building
from
a
historic
standpoint.
B
B
D
Is
that
you
should
give
it
to
a
developer
to
look
both
ways,
this
building
or
next
door
or
I
guess,
possibly
even
the
third
choice
but
I
think
economically
long
term.
This
building
is
probably
going
to
be
pretty
expensive,
just
simply
because
there's
truly
so
much
unused
space
right
out
in
these
lobbies
and
stuff,
it's
not
very
efficient
as
far
as
the
planning
goes,
I
think.
D
The
these
conceptual
plans
that
we
came
up
with
and
the
the
original
or
not
the
original,
but
the
drawings
that
were
we
have
over
on
the
boards
and
stuff
ought
to
be
submitted
to
developers
to
take
a
look
at
and
let
get
their
input
and
some
pricing
that
sort
of
thing
and
move
forward
from
there
come
up
with.
You
know
a
real
plan
with
economics
tied
to
it,
knowing
what
they're
planning.
D
C
U
T
L
Yeah
I
mean
if
the
city
needs
40
000
feet,
they
can
go
in
a
new
building
at
let's
just
say:
25
bucks,
a
foot,
30
bucks,
a
foot
you're
at
a
million
or
a
million
two,
the
occupancy
cost
on
140
000
foot
building
at
10
bucks.
A
foot
is
a
million
four,
so
it's
more
expensive
for
the
city
to
stay
in
this
building
than
to
move
into
new
space
that
is
well
designed
unless
it
can
be
a
landlord
and
rent
a
portion
of
it
and
earn
back
the
income,
but
even
owning
it,
free
and
clear.
N
O
And
from
an
operational
standpoint,
I
think
the
answer
is
yes,
we
don't
have
a
great
track
record
of
being
an
awesome.
Landlord
of
you
know,
Parcels
that
we're
not
occupying,
but
you
know,
I
would
remind
everybody
that
to
make
the
city
center
the
1.0
work
they
had
to.
You
know
give
the
Moa
space
for
20
years
they
had
to
you
know
partner,
find
a
partner
in
Inglewood
Arts
to
occupy
Hampden
Hall.
So
it
was.
There
was
a
big
push
to
give
away
to
try
to
get
something
in
this
building.
O
The
only
program
that's
been
done
on
it
so
far
has
been
in
partnership
with
triba
when
they
were
still
part
of
the
deal,
and
we
did
some
space
planning
on
that
we've
kind
of
figured
out
that
the
library
would
not
fit
in
that
building
most
likely
that
it
would
be
you
know,
but
that
it
could
accommodate.
You
know
the
office
uses
that
are
here,
foreign.
W
A
S
Well,
we
don't
control
this
site.
This
is
the
city
site
and
so
I'll
tread
carefully
here
because
telling
you
what
to
do
with
your
site,
it
would
be
overstepping
we
control
east
of
here,
so
we
need
to
Market
it
both
ways
and
it's
something
that
would
be
a
collaboration
between
Jim
and
I,
Dan
and
Brad,
with
a
broker
that
we
would
select.
S
You
know
we'll
Market
it
in
a
way
that
if
we
want
to
do
a
dual
track,
where
it
stays
and
one
where
it
goes,
we
can
give
both
an
equal
shot
and
let
the
market
decide
what
they
think
they
can
make
out
of
it.
Assuming
people
will
let
the
market
speak
and
not
force
one
or
the
other
I
think
we'd
be
comfortable,
trying
that
what
I
see
here
is
some
apartment
sites
on
our
particular
Parcels
I.
Think
we're
excited
and
comfortable
with
that.
We
think
there's
a
big
market
for
that.
S
Quite
a
bit
of
capital
will
form
around
that
debt
will
form
around
that.
So
it's
very
easy
to
deliver.
Apartments
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
we're
reducing
the
office
footprint
where
we
are
in
2023
there's
a
change
in
the
Paradigm
of
the
way
office
is
used.
Your
office
vacancy
in
Denver
right
now
is
19
and
that's
increasing.
S
That
will
continue
to
increase
as
Lisa's
role,
I
think
if
you're
trying
to
go
after
office,
tenants
you're
going
to
be
stealing
them
from
other
buildings
in
Inglewood,
and
you
are
robbing
Peter
to
pay
Paul,
so
I,
don't
think
you're
creating
a
new
demand,
at
least
not
initially
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
we're
fading
away
from
that
I
think
this
plan
also
has
too
much
ground
floor.
Retail
I
love
the
idea
of
retail
around
the
park.
S
I,
don't
like
it
buried
back
in
an
apartment
complex
with
no
drive-through
traffic,
that's
going
to
be
better
utilized
as
apartments
for
dog
owners
and
senior
citizens
and
others
who,
like
that
ground
floor
unit.
So
if
we
can
reduce
the
retail
footprint
sum
and
focus
it
around
the
park
and
reduce
the
office
speculative
office,
demand
I
think
they'll
have
a
much
greater
chance
of
finding
excited
developer
pool
that
will
be
happy
to
make
offers
on
this
in
either
way
keeping
this
building
or
not,
but
my
opinion
on
what
you
do
with
this
building.
S
S
We
are
here
because
we
think
this
is
a
a
adventure
on
both
parts
that
that
is
that
can
benefit
us
as
well
as
as
well
as
the
city
we,
you
know,
we
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility
to
all
the
bondholders
that
are
in
the
Remick
trust
that
owns.
You
know
our
parcel.
If
you
will,
we
certainly
have
an
understanding.
What
we
believe
is
if
we
took
this
our
collateral
to
market
tomorrow,
just
as
as
a
retail
development
of
what
it
is
or
what
our
parcel
is,
we
have.
S
We
have
a
good
idea
what
we
think
value
might
be
we're
here,
because
we
believe
in
this
joint
effort
of
trying
to
create
the
the
the
new
downtown
four
Englewood
will
be
accretive
to
our
value
above
and
beyond
what
we
could
sell
our
piece
in
and
of
itself,
and
it
is
and
that's
why
we
are
here
I
want
to
if
I
may
just
touch
base
on
when
Dan
asked
John
earlier
about
about
timing.
This
is
kind
of
critical
with
regard
to
us.
S
S
Is
you
know
here
in
2023
and
into
contract
and
into
feasibility
with
a
a
close
on
the
purchase?
You
know
the
first
second
quarter
of
2024..
Our
business
plan
does
have
us
exiting
our
ass,
our
collateral
sometime
in
2024.,
so
we,
you
know
we're
here
wanting
to
just
do
everything
that
we
can
to
help
move
this
process
us
along.
You
know
apologize
that
you
know
that
the
the
you
know
the
Venture
with
with
SKB
didn't
work
out.
S
You
know
the
the
developers
could
very
well
just
have
a
some
other
ideas
or
suggestions
on
things
that
that
that
we
all
might
have
to
consider.
But
for
us
it's
it's
it's!
Let's
move
forward.
Let's
move
forward
now
and
and
and
see
if
we
can
get
this
all
done
with
a
clear
sign
of
success,
going
into
2024.,
okay,.
S
I
would
just
say
in
terms
of
next
steps
we
had
contemplated,
having
dig
Studio
kind
of
document
the
results
from
today
and
then
circulate
that
to
the
three
stakeholders
and
see
if
we
could
get
enough
consensus
on
that
that
it
would
be
the
basis
of
then
a
developer.
Rfp
I
think
is
a
practical
matter.
Doing
two
Alternatives
is
doable,
you
know
and
we
can
develop
the
narrative
for
that
and
what
the
city
wants
to
see.
I
think
we
can
give
voice
to
a
lot
of
other
things
that
have
been
brought
up
today
as
well.
S
You
know
one
of
in
terms
of
the
next
steps,
at
the
same
time
that
we
would
be
doing
that
I
think
we've
contemplated
working
on
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
L
and
R.
That
would
be
kind
of
a
precedent
to
then
a
subsequent
framework
agreement
with
lnr
and
the
framework
agreement
would
be
would
lay
out
a
the
termination
of
the
ground
lease
and
that's
been
something
that's
been
discussed
for
a
couple
of
years
now.
So
hopefully
that's
not.
S
You
know
a
major
issue,
but
it
is
something.
That's
going
to
require
further
further
consideration,
I
think
as
we
work
on
the
mou,
we
can
work
on
the
timing
question
further,
because
early
24
there's
just
so
much
that
would
need
to
be
done
in
terms
of
the
procurement
and
all
the
agreements
and
then,
of
course,
the
selected
preferred
developer
would
have
to
vet
their
the
proposed
plans
with
all
three
entities
and
deal
with
all
their
due
diligence
issues
at
the
same
time.
S
S
Anyone
else
like
that,
any
comments
I
mean
you're
correct.
You
can't
put
the
cart
before
the
horse.
You
have
to
have
a
site
plan
to
price
it
to
have
that
mou
discussion
and
the
framework
agreement
so
point
of
today
is
to
get
one
perhaps
now
two
site
plans
and
then
look
to
find
out
what
we
think
those
are
worth
and
that
will
lead
right
into
your
framework
and
mou
discussion,
which
you
could
probably
dual
track
with
also
having
potentially
getting
these
on
the
market
and
getting
some
developer
feedback
to
what
is
feasible.
S
What's
economically
viable
and
they're,
going
to
ask
Troy
a
bunch
of
questions
about
you
know
with
with
attainable
housing.
How
that
can
be
financed
also
could
be
with
the
parking
structure
as
well.
So
I
think
we
have
a
framework
or
a
path
now,
with
the
next
iteration
of
site
plans
to
then
start
to
price
this
and
then
understand
how
to
get
to
a
framework
agreement.
S
S
We're
gonna
do
a
little
visual
yeah.
We
we
call
it
a
mentee
moment,
there's
a
program
called
mentimeter
and
it's
just
some
visual
preference
and
the
reason
why
this
is
important
and
I
know.
We
said
this
at
the
beginning,
but
you
know
we're
we're
still
working
on
land
use,
framework,
distribution
of
blocks
and
whatnot,
but
as
we
go
to
develop
these
next
round
of
Alternatives
and
I'll
have
two
Alternatives
moving
forward.
S
That
would
be
an
accompaniment
to
this
developer,
RFP
that
we
get
a
sense
of
what
you're
all
thinking,
fully
understanding
that
it's
going
to
need.
You
know
a
new
new
developer.
We
come
on
board
yeah
and
in
their
input,
but
take
it
away.
Ryan
yeah,
yeah.
First
of
all,
does
anyone
want
we
have
analog
sheets?
You
could
Mark
your
answer.
If
you
don't
want
to
do
this
into
your
phone,
that
was.
Was
that
a
yes?
Can
you
pass
it
yeah,
okay.
S
Otherwise
this
is
fairly
simple.
The
instructions
are
at
the
top
there
mentee.com
put
in
the
eight
digit
code,
and
this
survey
will
pop
up
you're
already
Off
to
the
Races.
So
we
have
four
categories
here:
first
being
type
of
street
and
just
to
clarify
a
little
bit
in
case
there
I
know
they're
they're,
somewhat
similar
number
one
is
think
something
that's
a
little
bit
more
modern
right.
There's
some
special
Paving
in
the
sidewalks.
Some
you
know
beautifully
designed
aesthetic
sort
of
seating
integrated
into
planters.
S
S
S
S
S
You
got
the
American
flag
in
it.
I
think
we
need
to
balance
the
increased
density
with
the
feeling
of
a
small
town.
Pretty
small
town,
I
I
chose
option
two
I
like
option
three
better,
but
I
mean
that
kind
of
Paving
looks
really
expensive.
I
think
option
two
is
probably
a
better
fit
for
for
what
we're
dealing
with
in
this
area.
S
All
right
I,
like
that
the
walking
area
is
a
little
bit
more
narrow
and
that
there
are
benches
facing
in
toward
the
buildings
on
number
two
yeah.
That's
always
a
nice
touch
right,
because
you
don't
really
want
to
face
the
parked
cars,
but
you
see
benches
facing
that
way.
A
lot
all
right.
Let's
see,
if
I
just
do
this,
does
it
yes?
S
Okay
number
two
is
public
spaces
open
spaces,
so
the
gist
here
number
one
is
like
think:
more
urban
programmed
Plaza
type,
Festival
space
number,
two
being
a
little
bit
more
gardeny
passive
kind
of
neighborhood
park
feel
and
number
three
is
much
more
of
a
traditional
Town
Center
sort
of
focal
point:
gazebo
Pavilion,
Community
festivals,
Etc!
Do
you
know
what
number
three
is
an
actual
image
of?
It's
called
South
Lake,
Town,
Center
Texas,
my
hometown,
oh
she's,
like
it
looks
familiar,
the
middle
is
in
Cleveland
and
the
top
one
is
in
Columbus.
S
S
S
S
S
There's
also
what
I
can
only
assume
is
a
Civic
building
at
the
far
end
of
that
Park.
It's
the
courthouse
and
they've
started
building
this
in
the
late
90s
and
it's
been
built
out
in
a
lot
of
phases.
There's
also
a
hotel.
That's
not
pictured
in
here.
That's
behind
that
Courthouse!
It's
a
really
sprawling
area,
but
this
Central
Area
faces
one
of
the
main
thoroughfares
kind
of
like
Hampden,
and
it
is
always
packed
with
people.
It's
I,
don't
they
did
a
really
good
job
with
it
for
what
it's
worth.
S
All
right
so
architecture,
these
are
a
little
more
clear,
I
think
but
number
one
obviously
is
more
brick
more
traditional
type
of
architecture.
This
is
a
fairly
new
building.
That's
sort
of
I
think
hearkening
back
well
to
Historic
architecture.
Number
two
would
be
very
modern,
very
forward-looking.
21St
century
number
three
is
a
little
bit
of
an
in-between
right,
so
contemporary
use
of
brick,
but
not
necessarily
echoing
historic,
historic
building
forms.
Yes,
historic,
ornamentation,
no.
S
Any
thoughts
comments,
this
does
I,
will
say
kind
of
go
along
with
the
previous
two
I
I'm,
seeing
it
a
trend,
but
any
thoughts,
I
want
to
say:
I
I
chose
the
the
first
one,
but
I
it
doesn't
quite
I
mean
it
looks
like
a
kind
of
a
modern
take
on
something
old
which
is
better
than
you
know
better
than
the
Alternatives
I
guess.
But
I'm
thinking,
like
my
preference,
would
be
something
that's
more
classical
kind
of
architecture.
S
S
S
You
know
brick
or
you
know
signage
sort
of
integrated
into
these.
It
may
be
empty
retail
spaces.
Number
two
gets
to
kind
of
that.
Mid-Century
neon,
theater,
Drive-In
Vibe
number
three
is
just
think:
don't
don't
respond
as
much
to
the
exact
signage,
but
something
like
contemporary
funky
colorful,
like
kind
of
really
recognizable,
doesn't
mean
it's
orange
and
fanned,
but
it
just
funky.
S
S
S
The
third
option
could
be
like
the
creative
edgy
option
right,
but
I
think
maybe
not
very
many
of
us
liked
that
particular
image.
It's
a
hard.
This
is
a
hard
one.
We
wanted
to
ask
the
question
just
to
get
the
temperature.
It
is
a
really
hard
one
to
because
it's
hard
not
to
respond
to
these
exact
images
but
yeah.
We
know
you
know
you
also
have
the
place
making
and
wayfinding
plan
that
identifies
sort
of
already
sort
of
sets
out
some
design
for
some
of
these
elements.
S
S
To
that
last
Point
I
want
to
respect
the
work
that
was
done
in
the
signage
and
wayfinding
study,
which
I
thought
was
good,
and
we
can
look
at
layering
that
into
some
of
these
materials
and
illustrations
that
we
prepare
moving
forward
with
the
two
options.
So
and
then
we
had
like
five
six
options,
but
there
was
even
a
seventh
option
that
Hugo
do
you
want
to
spend
a
moment
and
just
throw
out
what
you
were
saying,
or
do
you
not
want
to
offer
that
to
the
group?
S
Yeah,
no
I'm,
fine
and
I
think
they
meant
to
say
it
earlier.
Yeah
yeah,
no,
no
problem,
I
think
that
what
I
think
it'd
be
really
important
for
the
area
again
is
some
type
of
catalyst
and
again
whether
it's
repurposing
this
building
to
be
a
draw,
whether
it's
putting
in
something
that's
basic
like
a
an
ice
rink.
S
That's
a
draw
I
think
that
when
we're
working
and
putting
this
RFP
out,
I
think,
instead
of
just
seeing
a
plan,
that's
apartment,
building,
apartment
building,
Hotel,
that's
seeing
something
that's
going
to
bring
people
to
the
area
that
will
make
it
successful
for
the
long
term.
I
think
would
be
would
be
important.
S
I
was
shared
by
a
local
real
estate
owner,
and
this
is
not
a
plan
that
I
am
advocating
for,
but
I'm
advocating
for
the
concept
of
a
catalyst
and
a
draw
was
actually
using
the
full
l
r
site,
so
the
square
that's
not
shown
with
any
coloring
in
the
Square
adjacent
to
it
and
building
it
full.
It's
about
six
acres,
approximately
I,
believe
building
six
acres,
full,
which
is
roughly
a
250
000
foot
floor
plate
over
five
stories,
which
is
a
million
and
a
quarter
square
feet.
S
The
development
is
about
a
500
million
dollar
development
that
was
a
sports
complex.
The
lower
level
is
1300
parking
spaces
that
could
com
accomplish
a
lot
of
the
parking
needs
for
the
whole
area
and
do
so
Subterranean
the
area
actually
right,
where
the
hotel
is
shown
in
this
plan
in
front
of
us
in
that
big
building
would
actually
be
a
hotel
right.
Next
to
it
could
have
office
space
with
everything,
then
that
goes
to
the
east.
S
Being
kind
of
this
Sports
Complex,
the
sports
complex,
would
draw
Monday
through
Friday
teams
and
people
locally
to
kind
of
the
gym
into
practices,
and
so
that
it's
bringing
people
and
consistently
used
on
the
weekends.
It
would
be
a
draw
bringing
people
for
competitions
tournaments,
so
there's
three
ice
rinks,
and
so
you
could
have
25
teams
in
town
for
a
ice
hockey,
tournament
or
other
tournaments
that
utilize
the
hotel.
You
could
accomplish
office
space
here
that
could
be
part
of
the
city
space
and
so
you're.
Creating
a
big,
mixed-use
complex.
S
That's
very
dense,
a
lot
of
square
footage
in
an
area
of
the
plan
that
then
allows
the
other
part
of
the
plan
to
have
more
open
space,
more
pedestrian,
friendly
access
by
by
bringing
a
dense
catalytic
type
of
development
and
draw
to
the
l,
r
site.
I.
Think
that
the
plan
that
was
presented
to
me
was
very
high
in
the
sky,
but
I
do
think
some
concept
of
a
development
that
brings
people
Monday
through
Sunday
daytime
and
night
time.
S
I
think
can
help
whatever
is
being
done
at
city
center
3.0
to
be
successful
for
the
long
term
and
I
know
that
there's
we're
in
a
very
active
place
where
we
live.
There's
a
lot
of
sports
teams,
and
things
happening
here
regularly
that
this
type
of
space
is
in
high
demand
and
is
not
there
isn't
enough
in
the
city
especially
ice,
and
that
I
think
that
it
could
bring
a
lot
of
groups
together
to
utilize
a
space.
It
could
bring
a
medical
type
of
office
user.
S
That
could
be
a
good
ancillary
resource
to
it.
I
think
it
plugs
in
really
well
with
the
hospitals
that
are
a
big
draw
to
Englewood
I
think
could
employ
a
ton
of
people
that
can
live
and
work
and
walk
in
the
area.
I
think
it
can
tie
into
the
Tod
of
people
being
able
to
take
the
light
rail
to
go
there
or
take.
S
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
comments
and
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
I.
Think
our
perspective
is
kind
of
the
Consulting
team
on
it
is
if
there's,
if
there's
a
deal
to
be
had
between
L
and
R,
and
somebody
like
this
you're
saying
if
there's
a
developer
I
think
that's
a
look.
That's
a
little
bit
outside
the
magnitude
of
this
and
how
the
economics
of
all
that
works
is
probably
a
little
bit
outside
the
scope
of
what
we're
dealing
with
here.
S
But
if
you
want
to
connect
people,
you
know
John
Jim
speak
up,
but
I
I
I
would
think
that's
the
path
that
goes
as
opposed
to
throwing
a
third
alternative
into
what
we
were
going
to
and
I.
Don't
think
you
suggested
yeah,
but
you
go.
I
grew
up
playing
hockey.
I
grew
up
in
Colorado,
I'm
gonna
go
watch
the
Avs
game
in
20
minutes
when
it
starts
those
facilities.
You're
talking
about.
We
have
a
couple
in
Florida.
S
I'm
not
saying
you
don't
need
one,
but
it's
going
to
be
outside
of
the
C-470,
where
you
have
some
land
to
build
something
like
this
and
then
you
will
build
your
hotels
around
it.
It's
a
big
Vision.
It
just
needs
a
much
bigger
site
than
City
Center.
So
no
no
I
I
thought
it
was
interesting
and
interesting
hearing.
Somebody
present
it
to
me
specifically
for
Englewood
and
the
six
acres
that
you
guys
owned.
S
Coincidentally,
I
think
that
it
is
maybe
a
little
grandiose
in
what
was
presented,
but
I
think
that
the
base
concept,
someone
that's
maybe
smaller
and
more
tangible,
creating
a
mixed
use
facility
that
can
be
utilized.
You
know
seven
days
a
week.
I
think
is,
is
important
to
have
a
Redevelopment
here,
that's
successful
and
we
don't
have
a
room
full
of
people
20
years
from
now.
S
Talking
about
redeveloping
it
again,
if
you
build
the
right
park,
that's
a
365
day
use
and
so
it'll
have
utility
every
single
day
when
the
winter,
maybe
you
do
bring
on
an
ice.
Rink
and
you'll
have
the
space
for
it.
If
it's
large
enough,
so
I
still
think
that
would
be
your
focal
point
for
that
360
five
day.
Where
do
people
Collide?
Where
does
that
happen?
S
Well,
thanks
for
sharing
that
I'll,
let
if
it
has
any
legs
I'll,
let
you
to
take
it
forward
from
here,
but
I
do
appreciate
and
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying
about
kind
of
a
bigger
Vision
catalytic
approach
to
this.
So
with
that,
we
are
at
our
time
or
close
to
our
time.
I
want
to
ask
and
just
I
had
some
closing
comments,
but
I
didn't
know.
S
If
anybody
else
had
any
closing
comments,
they
want
to
make
amongst
the
group
or
installer
burned
out
and
tired,
and
one
get
the
heck
out
of
here
so
well,
I
was
gonna,
say
no
closing
comments
for
me.
Just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
for
all
the
time.
You
know
the
time
on
a
Saturday
for
coming
here.
I
appreciate
everyone
from
dick
from
dig
so
Bill
Ryan
Laurel.
Thank
you
very
much
for
facilitating
for
running
the
meeting,
everyone
from
the
DDA
Mark
Troy
Lizzy.
S
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
especially
Eleanor.
You
know
after
today,
I
realized
that
we
probably
should
have
had
conversations
leading
up
to
this,
hopefully
that
we
don't
make
this
mistake.
Moving
forward.
I
want
to
continue
the
conversations
as
we
move
along
through
this
process,
but
Jim
and
John.
Thank
you
very
much
for
making
time
and
just
everyone
from
city
council
as
well
in
DDA.
So
thank
you.
S
S
You
know,
just
three
weeks
ago
you
were
giving
up
a
whole
nother
Saturday
then,
and
you
probably
got
more
of
these
scheduled
in
the
late
nights
and
everything
you
put
into
it
in
terms
of
council
sessions
and
committees,
and
all
that.
So
thank
you
for
all
you
do
there,
Edda
members
as
well
I
mean
you're
you're,
going
above
and
beyond.
S
Thank
you
for
all
your
contributions
and
time
and
to
make
Englewood
a
great
City
and
I
would
say
too
that
it's
interesting,
I
think
I
started
this
by
saying.
If
there
was
one
thing
that
was
very
clear
was
that
there
was
a
need
for
more
communication
and
more
collaboration
and
I
think
we
made
a
big
step
today
in
terms
of
building
just
that
sense
of
togetherness.
The
sense
of
everybody
has
skin
in
the
game.
S
Not
everybody
will
get
everything
they
want,
but
everybody
realizes
the
collective
common
goal
and
that
together
you
know
we'll
be
successful,
so
I'm
feeling
that
you
know
I
do
a
lot
of
these
public
meetings.
You
can
tell
ones
that
are
going
to
go.
Oh
man,
this
is
going
to
be
we're
going
to
be
here.
A
long
time
or
this
is
never
to
get
through.
I
can
really
sense
that
there's
there
there's
a
spirit
of
cooperation
to
move
forward
here
in
putting
these
forward
plant
this.
S
These
two
alternative
plans
forward
and
coming
up
with
a
process
and
a
pace
that
works
for
everybody.
So
Bill
to
that
point.
Can
I
also
just
acknowledge
that
these
things
don't
go
off
successfully
without
incredible
amounts
of
planning
from
staff
and
so
Dan
really
taking
the
lead,
Brad
Nancy,
Shelley
John,
all
the
Community
Development
staff
that
had
done
a
great
job
and,
of
course,
with
your
guidance
and
help
with
that,
but
just
want
to
thank
them
and
they've
been
communicating
with
lnr
for
years
now
and
all
of
the
partners.
So
two
continued
success,
yeah,
absolutely!