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B
B
Thank
you,
maureen
hello.
Everyone
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
regular
meeting
of
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
meeting
on
this
thursday
january
21st
2021,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
agreeing
to
modify
our
meeting
this
month
and
next
month,
because
I've
I
am
enrolled
in
a
class
that
meets
on
monday
and
wednesday
nights
through
february.
So
thank
you
for
being
willing
to
adjust
our
time
for
those
two
months
and
I
also
wanted
to
amend
our
agenda.
B
B
B
B
Thank
you
and
I
apologize
for
that
mistake
I
didn't
realize
I
did
that
until
last
night
maureen
do
we
have
any
public
attendees
on
call
with
us
today
we.
A
A
B
Also
invited
our
two
new
members,
we
have
two
new
members,
one,
his
name
is
robert
watson
and
the
other
is
chris
underwood.
I
invited
them
both
to
attend
tonight's
meeting,
just
as
visitors
they'll
be
sworn
in
in
february
and
will
be
attending
their
first
meeting
will
be
in
february.
So
if
they
do
join
us,
we
can
stop
real
quick
and
I
can
introduce
you
to
them
all
right.
So
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
consideration
of
minutes.
From
our
december
meeting.
Would
someone
like
to
move
to
approve?
E
B
Thank
you,
carson.
Are
there
any
corrections
or
discussions
colleen.
B
F
You're
you're,
muted,
okay,
I
not
muted
now
right
you're,
good.
Now,
okay,
under
the
new
business,
it
said
that
member
dickerson
volunteered
to
review
title
seven
chapter,
one
a
through
c,
will
be
added
to
list
of
projects
for
ca.
Ceac
prioritization,
I
don't
remember
volunteering,
I
don't
mind
doing
it.
I
worked
on
this
a
lot
and
I
still
have
all
my
notes
and
everything,
but
I
don't
remember
doing
it.
F
So
I
do
remember
volunteering
for
you
know
to
work
with
you
on
the
tree
and
shrub
ordinance,
but
I
don't
remember
volunteering
for
the
other,
but
I
will
do
it
if,
if
you
want
me
to
well.
B
I
I
when
I,
when
we
do
the
minutes,
I
do
go
back
through
in
addition
to
maureen.
I
actually
go
back
through
and
re-listen
to
everything
and
verify
that
we've
got
it
accurate
and
it
went
in
our
discussion
of
animals
and
foul.
You
recommended
that
and
I
proposed
that
we
add
that
to
our
list
of
priorities
and
see
if
that
was
something
that
the
committee
wanted
it
to
do.
B
So
it
is
actually
something
that
you
volunteered
to
do,
but
I
don't
think
it's
material
because
we
added
it
or
I
put
it
on
the
list
of
things
to
talk
about
and
that's
something
that
the
committee
will
prioritize
tonight.
F
B
Otherwise
do
we
we
need
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
the
minutes,
as
amended.
G
B
Okay,
great,
let's
vote
by
by
a
show
of
hands
the
approval
of
our
december
minutes
as
amended.
F
Point
of
order
monica
you
weren't
at
the
meeting,
so
I
don't
think
you
can
vote.
Oh.
B
H
Hi
y'all,
I
don't
have
major
activity.
There
were
several
council
requests
that
were
submitted.
Some
of
them
have
been
already
been
posted
and
there's
a
couple
additional
council
requests
that
were
posted.
I
would
encourage
you
to
go
on
to
the
council
request
portal
and
take
a
look
at
a
few
of
them.
One
was
with
in
regards
to
snow.
H
There
was
a
concern
from
a
citizen
that
code
enforcement
was
not
being
equitable
in
the
way
that
we
do
our
enforcement,
and
so
we
went
ahead
and
gis
mapped
it,
which
I
really
want
to
thank
councilmember
russell
for
asking
for
that,
because
we
don't
do
that
very
often
and
it
is
a
little
bit
of
a
process,
but
it
really
allowed
us
to
see
what
we've
accomplished
with
snow
and
ice
over
the
last
year,
and
it's
you'll
see
that
it's
equally
dispersed
between
a
variety
of
different
zones
and
business
districts,
so
it
is
being
applied
equally
to
all
businesses.
H
Should
we
run
into
a
construction
site?
Most
of
them,
as
you
know,
are
secure.
We
typically
don't
post
directly
onto
a
construction
site.
If
we
recognize
that,
typically,
we
will
mail.
Those
type
of
postings
out
only
because
it
is
in
transition
between
an
llc
or
reconstruction,
it
might
not
be
an
individual
and
so
that
way,
that
person
gets
that
information.
H
H
H
We
are
noticing
a
little
bit
because
we
have
had
colder
weather
and
we're
trying
to
work
with
public
works
as
much
as
possible
and
we're
also
educating
the
public
on
some
of
those
north-facing
streets
they're
going
through
and
using
ice
breakers.
If
you've
noticed,
if
you
walk
in
neighborhoods,
several
of
them
melt
in
an
unusual
way
and
then
re-freeze
and
then
it
doesn't
melt
again
and
then
it
re-freezes.
H
We're
still
on
the
moratorium
regarding
some
of
the
parking
concerns,
and
this
isn't
so
much
about
illegal
parking,
it's
more
about
the
expiration
dates.
As
you
all
know,
the
dmv
has
been
closed
for
months,
and
so
we've
really
we've
been
asked
by
the
governor
and
by
other
state
agencies
to
really
limit
the
number
of
parking
violations.
H
We
issue
for
expired
plates,
so
we're
kind
of
using
that
six
month
kind
of
mark
because
it
is
taking
multiple
months
for
appointments
or
for
people
to
get
in
to
renew
their
license
plates,
so
we're
really
trying
to
be
equitable.
We
are
leaving
notes,
saying
that
the
plates
are
expired.
Please
make
sure
that
you
contact
arapahoe
county
or
wherever
their
their
jurisdiction
is
to
see
about
scheduling
an
appointment
if
they
call
in.
We
also
give
them
additional
options.
H
I
don't
know
if
you
all
know
for
a
very,
very,
very
small
fee,
and
it's
it's
actually
worth
it.
You
can
actually
re-register
your
vehicles
through
some
of
the
grocery
stores.
I'm
a
huge
fan.
I've
used
them.
I've
gone
in,
it
takes
two
minutes
and
they
don't
have
to
wait
in
that
two-hour
line
at
the
dmv.
I
always
like
to
equate
it
to
the
to
the
pixar
tv
show
where
the
the
sloths
are
in
the
dmv
and
they're
just
working
so
slow.
So
let
me
do
that
again.
H
Let
me
still
get
me
in
a
while,
so
I
we
encourage
people
to
use
alternative
methods.
The
mail
still
is
a
great
option.
If
you
hear
from
people
it
is
very
slow,
but
it
is
ensuring
a
lot
of
people.
Safety
and
some
people
still
don't
feel
safe
in
having
that
public
interaction,
so
we're
trying
to
give
them
as
many
alternative
avenues
to
re-register
their
vehicles.
H
H
That
is
real
yeah,
so
there
has
been
some
tightening
of
the
belts
at
the
state
level.
There
were
a
lot
of
furloughs
and
there
were
some
layoffs
just
because
staff
I
mean
you
can't
really
go
into
the
office
and
and
work,
and
you
can't
really
print
those
out
from
home.
So
they
were
really
trying
to
find
a
band-aid
solution
and
fix
that.
H
As
a
result
of
the
snowfall,
we
did
do
some
less
proactive
enforcement
of
animal
control
concerns
and
that's
because
we
really
try
to
shift
our
priority
after
24
hours
after
a
snowfall,
48
hours,
sometimes
even
a
week
where
we're
issuing
some
of
our
snow
notices
to
to
violators
okay,
I
just
want
to
cover
graffiti
again
really
fast,
because
that
was
a
very
important
counsel
request.
H
The
the
day
before
into
the
evening
of
christmas,
we
had
a
graffiti
grinch
who
decided
to
visit
along
south
broadway
and
thought
it
was
very
festive
to
put
up
large
red
letters
on
a
multitude
of
businesses
along
south
broadway,
and
I
really
feel
for
them.
H
Several
of
them
aren't
even
open
or
operating,
and
so
we've
really
been
trying
to
work
with
them
right
now
we
have
four
businesses
that
are
not
in
compliance,
after
all
the
work
that
we've
done
with
them,
and
so
we've
had
to
go
forward
and
do
an
official
posting
notice
on
those
four
businesses,
but
most
of
them
got
it
cleaned
up.
I
really
feel
for
them.
It
was
really
it's
really
not
a
great
time
to
have
to
spend
extra
expenses.
H
I'm
trying
to
clean
up
on
on
a
nuisance
item
and-
and
I
really
feel
the
the
one
of
the
businesses
that
was
hit
really
hard-
has
not
been
open
for
a
long
time-
the
gothic
theater
and
they
really
got
tagged
hard
and
they
really
cleaned
it
up
quickly.
They're
one
of
the
quickest
in
responding
to
our
concerns,
and
so
I'm
looking
at
some
alternative
actions
that
we
may
be
able
to
take
in
the
future.
I
Yes,
I
do
supervisor
lewis,
I
just
I
have
a
question
about
the
snow
and
issuing
notifications
via
mail.
I
Are
we
getting
response
from
the
construction
sites
to
take
care
of
the
snow
issue,
or
is
the
snow
generally
gone
by
the
time
they
get
it
in
the
mail.
H
So,
as
you
all
know,
with
the
snow
ordinance,
they
have
24
hours
and
we
have
documented
so
the
biggest
concern
that
we
have
is
that
snow
season.
So
if
something
should
happen
in
the
future,
we're
not
so
concerned
about
the
the
one-time
notice,
it's
more
about
documenting
and
making
sure
that
we
have
that
in
progress
for
future
violations,
so
that
if
we
do
need
to
take
that
that
next
action.
F
Now
I
have
a
question
about
outdoor
storage,
one
of
the
I
did
hear
from
somebody
about
that
and
if
it's
construction
material,
which
seems
to
be
included
in
your
definition
of
outdoor
storage
stuff,
how
do
how
do
you
handle
that?
F
Apparently
there
have
been
cases
where
a
permit's
taken
out
and
a
lot
of
material
is
brought
in
and
left
in
the
front
yard,
not
behind
a
fence
or
behind
a
fence,
a
chain
link
fence
and
it's
impacting
the
neighbors,
because
it's
leaned
up
against
the
vents
or
whatever,
and
it's
been
two
years
and
they
just
keep
renewing
the
permit.
But
they
don't
utilize
the
material
who
gets
the
complaint
and
what
can
be
done
about
it.
H
So
we
have
to
evaluate
those
case
by
case,
but
typically,
if
there's
a
permit
on
the
property,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
leeway
as
to
what
we
can
and
can't
do
and
what
the
courts
would
move
forward
on.
So
you
can
always
have
them
contact
code
enforcement
to
file
a
complaint
and
we
can
evaluate
it,
evaluate
the
validity
of
the
permits
and
speak
with
the
building
department
and
see
what
we
can
do.
F
Well,
I
do
know
that
in
one
case
that
I'm
familiar
with
the
permit
just
keeps
getting
renewed
and
from
what
I
understand
from
the
code,
they
get
90
days
of
storage
and
that
has
to
start
being
used.
F
This
has
been
over
two
years,
so
I
will
relay
the
information,
and
I
had
already
did
I
had
already
said.
Please
call
dave
lewis.
H
Yeah,
I
really
would
encourage
if
you
get
complaints
that
they
reach
out
to
me
directly.
They
utilize
the
online
system
and
if
I
may
not
be
the
appropriate
person,
we
sometimes
need
to
go
back
to
the
building
department
and
really
get
them
to
help
us,
because
using
a
materials
I
mean,
as
you
know,
how
do
you
properly
use
use
an
item
if
somebody
has
a
pile
of
bricks
and
they
go
out
there
and
they
remove
one
brick.
Then
they've
said
that
they've
used
that
material.
H
So
it's
a
case-by-case
situation
and
again
in
I
don't,
I
think
I
know
which
case
you
may
be
talking
about
because
we
may
have
heard
about
it.
But
in
the
past
we
have
had
permits
where
they
were
not
renewed
because
of
outlying
code
issues.
F
Okay,
I'll
re,
I
will
re-emphasize
that
she
needs
to
contact
you
and
you
will
tell
her
whether
it's
a
zoning
issue
and
she
has
to
deal
with
the
community
development
department
or
not,
but
she
has
tried
to
deal
with
community
development
and
she's
really
frustrated.
So
I
said
well
give
it
to
dave
he'll.
Let
him
know.
H
I
just
want
to
re-emphasize
to
this
panel.
I
may
not
have
the
correct
answer.
I
may
not
be
the
correct
department.
However,
I
the
way
codes
are
written.
I
work
with
so
many
of
these
different
departments
that,
if
I
may
not
be
the
right
one,
at
least
I
the
complaint
can
stop
with
me.
I
can
take
the
complaint
and
I
can
document
it
and
I
can
forward
the
information
so
and
get
it
to
the
appropriate
department.
H
No,
did
you,
I'm
sorry,
did
you
have
any
other
questions
regarding
any
of
the
statistics.
B
A
A
B
Okay,
I
do
notice
that
robert
watson
is
on
our
call
also
and
robert
hi-
I'm
julie,
bowden
nice-
to
meet
you.
I
did
notify
everybody
on
the
meeting
today
that
you
might
be
joining
us
in
attendance.
So
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
welcome
to
the
committee
and
we'll
have
a
formal
introduction
in
in
february.
B
B
I
Thank
you
and
I've
gotten
a
couple
notices
on
my
computer
screen
that
my
internet
is
up
unstable.
So
if
I
drop
off,
I
apologize.
The
the
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
update
you
on
is
on
the
proposed
animal
change.
I
It
has
gone
to
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
the
originally
the
interim
city
attorney
said
he
would
be
able
to
do
it
in
a
week
and
it
was
the
city
attorney's
last
day
and
she
suggested
we
give
we
give
him
a
month,
and
so
that
will
go
forward
and
I
know
so.
I
I
know
that
you
have
on
the
agenda
an
update
proposal
and
then
that
is
fine,
so
the
process,
what
what
you
already
have
sent
to
city
council
will
be
fixed
and
then
that
will
come
back
to
you
and
then,
if
you
have
additional
proposals,
it
will
have
to
go
back.
F
Yeah,
my
question
is:
what
do
you
mean
by
coming
back
to
us?
The
process
that
was
outlined
by
our
previous
city
attorney
allison
mckinney
brown
was
that
whatever
the
council
directed
the
attorney
to
do
hey,
we
accept
these
proposals,
write
it
up
she's
supposed
to
bring
it
back
to
us.
The
the
city
attorney
is
supposed
to
bring
it
back
to
us
and
negotiate
with
us.
How
we
want
to
see
it.
I
G
G
B
At
maureen
we've
moved
forward
on
the
agenda.
We've
asked
cohen
to
follow
up
with
you
separately
on
the
next
steps.
G
I
Okay,
the
the
process
that
okay,
so
the
end
of
it
is
it
will
be
coming
back
to
code
enforcement
to
look
at
what
the
city
the
changes
the
city
attorney
made.
You
will
decide
if
that's
what
you
wanted
and
then
I
I
suppose
that
if
you
don't,
if
you
want
something
different,
you
can
take
it
back
to
the
attorney
before
you
send
it
back
to
account
to
counsel
to
vote
on
the
ordinance.
B
Any
other
questions
for
member
russell.
B
D
Monica
I
had
a
meeting
on
tuesday
with
chris
hargrooth
and
then
his
communication
team,
and
we
our
topics
were
the
emerald,
ash,
borer
branding
and
communications,
and
the
other
one
was
the
yearly
editorial
camp
calendar
and
you
know
different
ways
that
we
can
communicate
throughout
the
year.
So
some
good
stuff
that's
happening
is
that
chris's
team
has
taken
on
a
branding
project
for
the
emerald
ash
borer
and
they
have
this
really
cool
logo.
That
has
been
designed
and
we
have
a
slogan
which
is
it's
your
ash.
D
So
I
think
it's
catchy
and
will
be
effective
and
that's
still
being
worked
on.
They're
also
going
to
be
using
a
new
service
that
they
just
did.
A
training
on
this
week
called
bang
the
table,
and
it's
for
significant
landing
pages
on
the
website
and
emerald
ash.
Borer
is
going
to
be
one
of
those
and
then
we're
going
to
continue
to
use
the
slate
copywriter,
as
we
did
for
the
last
article.
D
That
turned
out
really
well
and
I
went
through
the
process
with
chris
and
he
is
going
to
include
me
in
the
loop
with
the
copywriter
so
that
I
will
receive
the
different
versions
of
the
articles
as
they
come
back
so
that
I
can
share
them
with
you
and
we
can
be
more
part
of
the
process
instead
of
just
giving
them
the
material
and
letting
them
create
it.
D
So
we'll
have
more
we'll
be
more
involved
in
the
process
going
forward,
including
the
spring
article
and
the
spring
article
will
be
about
emerald
ash
borer,
and
hopefully
I
will
cite
this
new
landing
page
and
hopefully,
some
of
the
tree
and
shrub
a
work
that
julie
and
cowen
are
currently
working
on.
So
there's
a
lot
of
synthesis
to
do
this
month.
D
So
I
what
I
would
like
to
do
and
colleen's
giving
some
feedback
back
on
the
article
we're
kind
of
going
to
base
it
off
of
the
one
that
julie
wrote
for
last
year
that
got
that
got
omitted
in
the
last
fall
magazine.
So
that's
kind
of
our
starting
point,
but
I'll
be
sending
out
communications
about
all
these
topics.
F
Obviously
we
didn't
get
anything
really
going
in
the
last
issue,
but
I
still
think
that
we
need
to
put
in
an
insert
of
some
nature,
because
that's
the
only
way
we're
going
to
be
able,
unless
we
all
volunteer
and
get
some
other
people
to
volunteer,
to
pass
out
flyers
that
have
a
return
label
on
them.
F
F
What
help
can
I
get
something
about
that,
and
also
as
we
develop
the
emerald
ash
borer
solution
process,
whatever
be
able
to
recommend
that
we
need
help
for
citizens
to
do
this,
and
we
need
to
do
it
now,
not
a
month
from
now,
not
three
months
from
now.
It
needs
to
be
done
now.
D
I
did
discuss
your
concern
about
people
who
don't
use
the
internet
to
get
their
information,
so
we
we
talked
about
a
newsletter
that
the
city
currently
puts
out
and
ways
that
we
can
utilize
that
we
talked
about
an
insert
in
the
magazine
and
we
talked
about
doing
surveys
as
a
way
to
collect
a
database
of
residents
that
are
able
to
identify
that
they
have
an
ash
tree
so
that
we
can
assist
them.
So
we
we
did
talk
about
all
of
those
and
and
that's
what
I
will
be
communicating.
D
I
will
be
meeting
with
them
monthly
going
forward
and
we'll
be
in
communication
between
those
talking
about
on
those
topics
as
well
cohen.
Sorry,
I
didn't
not
address
those.
F
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
show
this.
I
did.
I
did
boulder
when
we
gosh
it's
almost
two
years
ago
now
and
they
had
really
in
I
hate
boulder,
but
in
this
case
they
did
a
really
good
job
of
marketing
the
problem
and
they
called
it.
Let's
tree
imagine
boulder,
you
know
and
they've
got
another
thing,
and
I
like
what
you
came
up
with
julie
had
come
up
with
mind
your
ash.
It's
very
close,
so
I
think
it
works
just
fine,
but
they
talk.
F
You
know
they
got
the
citizens
involved
because
and
they
do
have
an
urban
forestry
department
that
manages
over.
I
think
it's
something
like
6
000
to
10
000
trees.
We
only
have
400
public
hash
trees,
but
they
one
of
the
things
they
did
was
I
pledged
to
help
boulders
trees
buy
and
then
there's
a
whole
list
of
things
that
can
be
done,
so
they
were
really
proactive
and
getting
citizens
and
providing
means
for
citizens
to
deal
with
it.
F
They
have
a
whole
disposal
site
and
everything
that
we
can
discuss
when
we
get
to
that
point,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
I'll
I'll.
Send
you
a
copy
of
this
or
maybe
the
link?
I
think
I
printed
this
off
of
their
website,
but
they
had
some
really
good
ideas
and
you
know
to
really
gin
up
the
citizens
and
get
them
involved
in
taking
care
of
their
property,
because
even
boulder
recognizes
there's
not
much.
F
The
city
can
do
on
private
property,
but
they
can
make
it
possible
for
people
to
have
a
place
for
the
diseased
trees
to
go.
They
have
a
yard,
you
can
take
it
for
free
and
they'll,
take
care
of
it
so
that
you
don't
spread
it
anywhere.
D
For
send
me
workers
any
of
those
things,
and
that's
also
that
sounds
like
something
to
discuss
with
dave
lee
as
far
as
what
this,
how
the
city
can
partner
with
citizens
before
we,
you
know.
F
F
F
Well,
no,
I
think
it
would
go
on
an
insert.
You
know
with
a
little
pranking
thing
so
that
people
could
return
it
that
and
not
everybody's
going
to
return
it.
Obviously,
so
it's
not
going
to
cost
very
much.
I
wha,
I'm
not
things
that
we're
going
to
send
out
at
this
survey,
but
an
online
survey
is
fine,
but
we
also
need
to
get
something
in
the
hands
of
people
that
don't
deal
online.
F
And
a
survey
about
the
issue
and
we
can
make
it
kind
of
general
dead
and
dying
trees,
diseased
trees
and
specifically
about
emerald
ash
borer,
because
we
do
need
an
inventory
of
what
we're
looking
at.
I
mean
there
was
an
estimate
that
dave
lee
passed
out
about
22
000
emerald
ash
trees
on
private
property.
We
have
no
idea
if
that's
accurate
or
not,
because
we
don't
have
an
urban
forestry
department
or
anybody
that's
paying
any
attention.
F
E
E
That
tool
with
the
map,
where
you
can
mark
them,
that's
pretty
well
filled
out
for
denver.
You
know
it's
been
probably
a
year
since
I
dug
into
that
as
extensively
as
I
did
when
we
first
looked
into
this
and
well.
F
We
need
to
be
able
to
do
it
both
in
an
insert
and
in
a
and
online,
and
so
we
got
it
get
that
information
out
more
directly
and
more
urgently,
but
we
also
need,
if
you
think,
that's
adequate,
then
we
could
put
that
on
an
insert.
If
you'll
tell
me
how
to
get
to
it,
I
you
know,
then
I
can
send
it
to
chris
hargith
and
maybe
he
can
design
something
as
an
insert
that
can
be
returned
for
those
people
that
pay
attention
to
the
magazine.
E
F
Yeah,
that
would
be
fine
with
me.
I
just
was
thinking
we
might
need
a
little
more
information
thoughts
of
well,
I'm
going
to
need
some
help.
If
I'm
going
to
save
these
trees,
I'm
going
to
need
some
help
getting
these
trees
removed
and
we
could
possibly
ask
those
questions
in
a
survey,
but
I
would
if
you
can
get
me
that
information,
because
I'm
feeling
a
little
technologically
inept
these
days,
you
can
call
me
or.
G
F
B
So
so,
if
I
can
make
a
comment
here,
I
mean
there's
no
shortage
of
good
ideas.
I
think
we're
all
starting
to
see
the
opportunity
in
front
of
us
and
the
gaps
that
we
have
in
our
in
our
processes,
not
only
with
the
code
but
with
our
communication
in
order
to
help
protect
the
city
so
later
on
in
the
agenda,
we'll
get
more
in
depth
with
that,
but
these
are
all
really
good
ideas
to
consider
and
getting
an
inventory
of
our
current
risk
right
now
with
our
existing
trees
is
certainly
a
good
step.
B
D
No,
I
just
we
have
so
much
to
cover.
I
just
thought
that
I
would
start
mail
emailing
everybody
updates
and
asked
for
feedback.
You
know
individually,
just
so
that
we
can
like
colleen
said
it
is
it's
urgent?
It's
imminent
and
I
just
think
that's
a
a
great
way
to
communicate.
Everything's
documented
that
way.
B
And
so
free
to
utilize,
the
google
drive.
If
there
are
documents
that
you
want
to
send,
instead
of
putting
them
in
an
email,
you
can
send
the
email
and
link
to
the
google
drive
where
the
documents
are,
and
then
please
remind
everybody
that
this
is
a
one
basically
a
one-way
communication.
They
can
only
reply
back
to
you
not
reply
all
so
that
we
don't.
D
B
Thank
thank
you
so,
at
this
point
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
new
business
and
we
didn't
really
break
out
new
business
between
well
okay.
So
I'm
going
to
just
re-title
that
as
a
unfinished
business
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
an
update
on
the
proposal
for
the
our
amendment
to
animals
and
foul
as
it
relates
to
cruelty
and
neglect.
B
So
we
found
out
in
a
very
short
notice
all
of
this,
including
rita
that
we
were
on
the
agenda
for
a
week
ago
to
present
to
city
council-
and
I
was
in
class
and
carson,
had
a
competing
city
meeting,
also
so
monica
presented
on
our
behalf
and
did
an
extremely
good
job.
I
think
the
message
got
across
and
there
was
really
no.
You
know
no,
no
question
as
to
whether
or
not
this
should
move
forward.
As
rita
said,
it's
been
sent
to
the
city's
attorney's
office
for
them
to
propose
a
draft.
B
I
received
that
draft
this
afternoon
I
haven't
even
opened
the
email.
So
what
happens?
Next?
Is
the
committee?
Will
you
know
we
asked
the
city
attorney
to
review
the
existing
code
and
make
changes.
There
were
several
different
ways
that
that
could
be
done
and
that's
why
we
asked
the
city
attorney
to
do
the
draft
for
us.
So
my
question
for
you
all
and
I'll
send
the
response
after
we
get
off
the
call
tonight.
F
B
I
I
I
can't
tell
you
how
if
it's
complex,
I
have,
I
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
even
open
the
email
so
I'll.
Send
this
hit
the
email
out
after
our
meeting
tonight
and
if
you
can
look
over
the
change-
and
let
me
know
if
you
think
we
need
to
get
together
before
february,
or
are
you
okay
with
the
changes
that
the
city
attorney
made.
A
Go
ahead:
maureen,
okay,
if
you're
going
to
send
out
the
email
with
title,
7
propose
changes
attached.
A
Please
make
sure
that
you
let
everybody
know
not
to
respond
all
right
and
none
of
you
can
discuss
what
the
changes
are
in
title.
Seven.
If
you
want
discussion,
you
will
have
to
have
a
meeting
to
discuss
it,
got
it.
Okay,.
A
You're,
basically
having
a
meeting
you're
discussing
something
that
has
not
been
discussed
in
a
public
meeting
previously,
my
advice
would
be
not
to
do
that.
My
advice
would
be
you
all
review
it.
Each
one
of
you
individually
sent
back
either
I'm
okay
with
this
to
julie,
but
it's
the
thing
is
that
you
guys
can't
take
action
as
a
body
saying
yep
we're
happy
with
this:
let's
send
it
off
on
to
the
city
council.
You
can't
take
that
action
unless
you're
in
a
meeting.
A
A
A
No,
you
can
discuss
it
all.
You
want
in
a
meeting
take
action
whatever
you
want
to
do,
but
you
cannot
take
any
action.
You
could
even
discuss
it
right
now.
If
you
wanted
to
you,
just
can't
take
any
action
and
an
action
is
saying.
Yes,
the
committee's
good,
with
this
we're
moving
it
on
to
the
city
council.
Yes,
we
want
to
meet
with
the
city
attorney
you,
as
chairperson,
can't
make
that
decision.
That's
a
committee
decision
that
has
to
be
done
in
a
meeting
dave.
H
I
I
did,
and
my
recommendation
was
going
to
be-
to
have
a
special
meeting
to
have
the
conversation
just
about
this.
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
I
did
review
the
document
and
the
only
changes
were
to
remove
dog
or
cat
and
specifically
outline
domestic
animal,
so
you
can
review
it.
It's
pretty
much
the
same
ordinance,
it's
just
replacing
dog
and
cat
in
most
areas
with
a
domesticated
animal.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
So
what
I'd
like
to
propose
is
that
we
have
a
short-term
meeting
before
our
next
meeting
in
february,
carson.
E
A
F
Yeah,
my
idea
was:
if
we
look
at
it,
we
decide
if
we
want
to
have
an
interim
meeting
to
discuss
it
with
the
city
attorney
or
wait
until
february
to
discuss
it
with
the
city
attorney.
But.
F
An
enter
a
meeting
to
discuss
it,
but
if,
if
that's
all
that
happened,
I've
got
a
problem
with
that,
because
that
couldn't
be
all
that
happened
because
the
code
is
divided
into
other
animals
and
dogs
and
cats.
There
would
have
to
be
a
sweeping
rewrite.
You
can't
just
change
everything
to
domesticated
animals.
A
So,
in
regards
to
an
interim
meeting
okay,
that
is
when,
because
the
public
has
a
right
to
know
what
you
guys
are
doing-
okay,
so
you
you
you
in
in
regards
to
having
an
interim
meeting,
you
need
to
decide
that
right
now,
that's
where
you
would
discuss
and
the
public
can
join
in
if
they'd
like
and
take
action
at
that
meeting,
you
can
all
look
at
the
you
can
all
look
at
the
rewrite
and
scribble
in
whatever
you
know,
changes
you
want
to
make
and
present
them
at
the
interim
meeting,
but
you
can't
even
make
a
decision
individually
at
having
an
interim
meeting
julie
as
a
chairperson
would
have
to
call
that
meeting.
A
B
Thank
you
and
I'm
sorry
for
the
circle
circle
around
everyone,
but
that's
basically
what
I
was
going
to
recommend
is
that
I'll
send
this
out
tonight
and
then
during
the
meeting
tonight.
I
would
like
to
set
up
a
time
for
us
to
get
together
and
discuss
our
reaction
to
the
proposed
changes
by
the
city
attorney.
B
If,
at
that
point
we
want
to
meet
with
the
city
attorney
on
the
suggested
changes
we
can
set
that
time
up
and
if,
if
not,
then
we
can
decide
at
that
point
what
our
next
actions
are,
but
at
least
it
will
be
on
public
record
and
the
public
can
attend
that
make
sense.
Okay,
so
in
terms
of
looking
at
a
time
over
the
next
week,
is
I
again,
I
I'm
only
available
on
tuesdays
and
thursdays.
B
F
B
B
B
Update
on
the
next
agenda
item
is
update
on
off
leash
review
at
our
last
meeting
supervisor
lewis
shared
with
us,
a
presentation
that
had
been
given
to
city
council
and
asked
us
all
to
review
that,
because
it
had
implications
for
code
enforcement.
Did
everyone
have
a
chance
to
look
at
that?
B
I
did
too,
and
I
know
that
the
next
step
is
to
do
a
survey
to
get
feedback
from
the
residents,
but
I
thought
the
most
dramatic
recommendation
in
there
was
that
we
would
have
animal
licensing,
which
was
actually
something
that
this
committee
had
on
its
agenda
to
address
in
the
future,
because
we
felt
like
that
was
important
for
the
city.
So
did
anyone
else
have
any
takeaways
from
the
pre
from
the
recommendation
from
the
off
leash
task
force?.
F
We
don't
have
any
authority
over
licensing
according
to
what
we
were
told
in
our
enabling
legislation.
Dave
go
ahead.
H
You
could
add
to
title
seven
because
it
does
require
in
there
specifically
for
rabies,
for
people
to
have
rabies,
vaccination,
and
that
could
be
a
continuation.
The
city
attorney
can
draft
it
into
title
seven,
because
this
would
be
a
specific
animal
related
permit,
just
like
it
would
be
for
a
dangerous
dog
permit.
B
D
Not
a
question,
but
I
just
wanted
to
offer
a
little
just
my
little
take,
because
I
was
on
the
committee
that
are
the
panel
that
helped
the
mediator.
Come
up
with
these
recommendations,
and
you
know
everybody
had
different
points
of
view,
but
what's
good
is
that
a
lot
of
these
topics
are
now
being
brought
up
in
the
public
in
the
parks
and
rec
committee
and
they,
regardless
of
what
actually
gets
decided
going
forward.
D
This
is
a
great
conversation
to
have
and
dave.
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
not
on
our
agent
anywhere,
but
I
think
something
worth
mentioning
in
our
committee
tonight
is
that
in
the
parks-
and
this
might
be
like
out
of
order
but
there's
the
new
park
ranger
got
sworn
in.
I
believe
and
that's
kind
of
a
big
deal
because
they
work
under
you
dave
and,
and
that's
a
big
you
know
all
these
things
are
kind
of
tied
together.
D
So
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
mention
that,
and
I
don't
know
where
licensing
falls
in,
but
I
will
say
that
within
our
group
discussion,
people
were
open
to
it.
So-
and
I
know
that
as
far
as
animal
welfare
goes
and
helping
pets
get
or
pets
get
returned
to
their
owners,
it's
a
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
positive
outcomes
that
can
come
from
that.
So
I
don't
know
worth
investigating.
E
Remember
johnson
pretty
much
answered
it.
I
was
just
wondering
where
the
you
know:
the
interest
in
the
licensing
program
came
from.
D
It
it
came
from
it
started
as
a
as
a
negotiating
tool
in
that
in
that
committee.
It
was
something
that
we
had
talked
about
in
our
meetings
previously,
but
in
within
that
group
it
was
offered
as
some
way
to
retain
off-leash
parks
without
fencing.
So
what
if
we
got
a
special
license
for
our
dog
and
then
it
kind
of
turned
to
well
there's
benefits
to
having
dogs
licensed
and
and
kept
track
of
in
general.
So
that's
kind
of
the
way
the
conversation
went
from
my
perspective
in
that
in
that
panel.
D
Yeah
it's
well,
it
was
interest
groups
yeah.
Well,
it's
a
parks
and
rec
project,
and
so
they
had
a
panel
and
they
felt
like
it
was
kind
of
underrepresented
when
they
started
their
work
and
they
they
did
take.
Some
findings
to
the
city.
Council.
D
Rita
can
probably
answer
that
and
for
some
reason
they
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
that's
when
I
that's
right
at
the
time
that
I
joined
parks
and
rec
committee,
and
so
because,
I'm
in
both
committees,
it
was
suggested
that
I
I
joined
that,
and
so
that's
when
I
joined
the
conversation
and
that
second
round
of
the
panel,
they
had
a
mediator
and
they
really
tried
to
include
all
the
interests.
D
So
the
denver
off-leash
group
or
you
know
the
bengal,
would
off
leash
group
and
the
and
then
people
from
parks
and
rec
and
then
interested
parties
that
lived
near
some
of
these
parks
specifically
jason
park.
That
was
probably
more
discussed
than
any
park
neighbors,
who
felt
impacted
that
were
not
dog
owners.
So
they
were
just
trying
to
get
all
the
voices
heard
and
and
the
mediator
kind
of
took
what
everybody
said
and
came
up
with
that
proposal.
B
Did
anybody
else
have
any
takeaways
from
reviewing
the
proposed
off-leash
recommendation.
F
Coin,
the
only
I
remember
when
it
was
the
subcommittee
was
formed
and
when
we
had
two
liaisons
one
of
them
came
back
and
said
because
he
was
on
the
park
and
rex
committee
liaison
also.
F
He
said
this
subcommittee
is
looking
into
the
possibility
of
making
all
the
parks
off
leash
and
we
they
killed
that
committee
and
did
nothing
for
a
while,
and
we
had
made
the
suggestion
as
a
committee
to
ask
them
to
please
bring
that
to
us,
because
it
was
our
responsibility
for
animal
welfare
and
animal
control
and
it
just
sort
of
died,
completely
died.
F
And
now
every
you
know
it's,
oh
well,
we've
got
all
these
fenced
dog
parks.
Well,
I
have
to
tell
you
it's
very,
very
bad
for
dogs
psychologically
to
be
in
those
things
and
little
dogs
cannot
be.
My
dog
would
die,
but
a
lot
of
dogs
were
very
you
know,
they're
they're.
If
they
know
other
dogs
that
they're
fine,
but
once
they
get
fenced
in
they
become
a
you
know,
it's
just
a
problem,
but
my
biggest
problem
with
this
presentation
was
mostly
the
survey.
F
All
these
surveys
reveal
something
that
I
know
aren't
quite
right.
You
know
they're
not
really
random,
they're,
very
expensive,
they're
geared
in
a
way
that
doesn't
work
real
well
and
if
we
make
decisions
based
on
those
surveys
and
ignore
two
or
three
hundred
people
that
have
petitioned
in
the
past.
B
Well,
if
I,
if
I
can,
stop
right
there,
so
it's
really
not
our
purview
to
oversee
what
the
what
the
off
leash
committee
is
recommending,
or
the
steps
that
they're
taking
that
have
been
approved
by
city
council.
I
mean
our
our
role
is
to
review
their
proposal
and
identify
any
impact
that
that
could
have
on
our
existing
code
or
or
code
processes,
and
so
what
I'm
looking
for
from
this
team
is
is
outside
of
you
know.
Potentially
licensing
animals
was
there
anything
else
that
members
saw
that
could
impact
our
code
or
processes
rita.
I
B
And
the
the
the
presentation
that
you
reviewed
the
next
step
is
to
conduct
the
survey
and
that
has
been
approved
and
it
is
moving
forward,
so
are,
were
there
any
other
comments,
cohen.
D
Yeah
and
then
maybe
rita
or
dave,
can
even
chime
in
on
this,
but
to
my
understanding
what
happened,
because
it
is
expensive,
they're
taking
a
statistically
valid
they're,
trying
to
get
a
statistically
valid
sample
in
the
mail-in
and
they're
hoping
to
get
enough
returns
on
the
on
the
random
sample
for
it
to
be
statistically
valid
and
then
they're.
Opening
an
online
survey,
which
you
know
there's
been
discussion
of,
that
you
could
possibly
game
that
survey,
but
they're
going
to
keep
them
in
separate
pools
and
and
kind
of
compare
to
see.
D
If
those
two
groups
align
you
know
and
if
they
have
consistency
among
the
two
samples,
the
random
male
and
sample
on
the
other
and
the
online.
That
would
lend
more
validity
to
that
to
to
the
results,
but
that
I.
E
D
D
Online
version
already
it's
already
been
mailed
out
and
in
the
last
meeting
at
the
parks
and
rec
meeting
one
of
our
committee
members
actually
received
it.
So
you
know,
but
nobody
else
did,
but
they
have
gone
out.
D
D
Well,
I
don't
think
that
part
has
gone
out
yet
I
think
it's
just
the
hard
copy
right
now
and
then
the
second
tier
of
that
is
the
open
survey
where
you
respond
and
they're
going
to
ask
you
some
qualifying
data,
but,
like
your
address,
I
think
and
stuff
like
that,
but
so
they
do
want
to
gather
as
much
information
as
possible,
but
the
random
sample
and
the
hard
copy
is
expensive
and
they
and
it's
the
thing
that
they
can
control
the
best.
H
H
They
have
validated
ips
addresses
on
computers
and
validated
information
from
these
people
who
have
participated
in
multiple
different
surveys.
They're
also
going
to
open
it
up
to
anybody,
so
they're
going
to
take
information,
and
they
will
ask
qualifying
information
as
to
where
you
live.
How
did
you
hear
about
this
because
we
could
get
people
from
canada?
H
H
E
H
My
data
from
the
isp
they're,
using
more
than
one
valid
checkpoint
for
some
of
those
processes.
So
I
hear
I
work
in
a
government
server
server,
so
you
know
I
kind
of
go
all
over
the
place,
but
I
hear
what
you're
saying
carson.
F
Cohen
yeah,
just
as
a
follow-up
to
what
carson
was
asking.
My
problem
with
these
surveys
is
not
so
much
qualifying
who's
responding,
but
the
questions
that
they
ask.
It's
always
leading
to
a
predetermined
conclusion
and
I
have
not
been
able
to
answer
any
of
the
surveys.
I
mean
I've
taken
them
all
and
I
go.
I
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
this
wasn't.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
anything.
And
finally,
I
just
say:
look
until
you
can
ask
me
questions
that
make
sense
to
me.
F
I
can't
respond
because
this
isn't
this
isn't
what
I
wanted
to
see.
I
can't
answer
these
questions.
They
don't
make
any
sense
to
me,
and
this
is
what
I
want
to
see,
but
as
far
as
your
question
as
to
what
takeaway
and
how
it
impacts,
I
think
it's
just
screwing
with
our
use
of
the
parks,
the
whole
thing.
F
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
when
you
see
this
particular
survey
coming,
I
I
think
you'll
like
it.
It
actually
has
maps
of
the
it
has
the
maps
on
it
and
everything
so
I
mean
you
could
have.
You
could
have
never
thought
of
this
issue
before
and
if
you
get
this
survey
you
would
it
would
make
sense
to
you
so
like
I
hope
I
don't
know
but
yeah
it's
I
don't
know
I
I
I
I.
D
The
thing
is
that
all
of
our
committees
overlap
and
we
all
we're,
and
we
all
live
here
so
and
if
you
have
a,
if
you
have
a
deep
concern,
you
can
always
go
to
the
city
council
and
and
tell
them
directly
and
to
be
honest
with
you,
people
who
are
on
that
committee
have
done
so.
You
know
because
they
they
may
have
not
liked
the
way
the
mediation
turned
out.
So
you
always
have
a
voice.
You
know
and-
and
we
do
have
a
part
in
in
animal
safety
and
animal
control
so
but.
F
We're
the
only
committee
charged
with
revising
deleting
advocating
new
codes,
we're
the
only
ones
that
are
charged
with
this.
That's
our
sole
purpose
and
the
person.
H
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
few
things.
This
is
not
a
change
in
any
code.
The
licensing
portion
was
just
a
suggestion,
it's
something
that
would
have
to
go
before
council
and
before
this
body
before
we
move
forward
with
any
changes
with
that
particular
code.
The
city
attorney
did
remind
me
that
this
body
is
not
required
to
review
every
single
code
that
goes
before,
council.
H
I
will
tell
you
that
moving
forward
with
major
portions
of
these
changes
is
going
to
allow
code
enforcement
in
our
park.
Ranger,
who
will
be
sworn
in
on
february
1st
has
been
selected,
will
allow
us
to
more
adequately
enforce
the
ordinances
that
we
have
in
place.
Currently,
they
are
open
to
too
much
interpretation
too
many
gray
areas
and
it's
very
difficult
for
us
to
enforce
a
lot
of
the
ordinances
within
our
parks,
and
so
this
is
further
clarifying.
H
Some
of
those
off-leash
concerns
that
we
have
and
it's
going
to
open
up
areas
for
longer
periods
of
time,
where
we
wouldn't
have
those
strange
hours
that
everyone
has
complained
about,
where
it's
limiting,
how
much
time
an
animal
can
be
there
that
it's
allowing
for
coexistence
and
co-mingling
and
the
most
amount
of
variety
of
park,
patronage
within
our
communities.
It's
not
just
right
now.
It
seems
like
it's
kind
of
a
back
and
forth.
It
seems
like
it's
a
battle.
It's
dog
people
know
dog
people
and
my
goal
here.
H
You
know
I
live
here
too,
and
I
have
a
beautiful
son
that
that
likes
to
take
go
out
to
the
parks
we
want
to
make
it
equitable
for
everyone
to
go
to
a
park,
not
just
one
particular
segment
of
our
public,
and
so
that's
why
the
parks
and
recreation.
This
is
a
two-year
project.
The
committee
was
was
several
months
and
they'll
be
coming
back
to
re-evaluate
that,
but
this
is
a
two-year
plan.
H
Where
public
comment
was
made
to
the
parks
and
recreation
committee,
they
discussed
it
multiple
times
and
and
in
all
fairness
it
has.
It's
been
very
transparent.
People
have
been
able
to
make
comments.
People
have
been
sending
emails,
they've
talked
about
it.
Is
it
perfect?
No,
is
anybody
going
to
be
completely
100
satisfied?
No,
but
is
it
a
compromise
between
multiple
groups
that
use
the
part
to
make
it
more
adequate?
H
I
would
say
we
have
an
80
slightly
over
80
percent
buy-in
from
those
that
were
participating
in
this
and
we're
going
to
see
even
more
feedback
from
the
survey,
which
is
why
we're
adding
that
component
to
go
back
to
council,
because
what
we
want
the
community
as
well
as
council,
to
be
the
most
informed
parties
when
making
this
decision
it's
been
very
difficult
and
rita
can
attest
to
this.
Several
of
you
can
attest
to
it.
H
The
enforcement
of
our
park
rules
has
been
one
of
the
most
contentious
parts
of
this
community
in
the
last
several
years,
and
it's
been
very
difficult
and,
and
I
think,
moving
forward.
This
is
a
way
to
put
aside
some
of
that
contention
and
maximize
the
uses
within
our
parks
and
make
it
enjoyable
for
all
users.
E
I
was
gonna
say
I
understand
where
colleen's
coming
from.
In
regard
to
some
of
the
other
servers
that
have
come
out
like
around
single
hauler
and
the
increased
density,
I
thought
those
surveys
were
extremely
leading
and
biased
and
found
them
very
difficult
to
answer.
I'm
excited
to
see
this
one
because
of
everything
you
guys
have
put
into
it
and
it
says
developed
with
this
national
research
center.
D
Monica
I
just
the
survey
itself
is
based
on
the
on
the
proposed
consensus
that
we
came
up
with
so
and
that's
I
wouldn't
say
that
that's
a
bias,
it's
just
it
it.
The
survey
is
based
on
our
best
options
that
we
came
up
with
so
yeah.
I'm
I'm
excited
about
it
too.
I'm
and
you
know
I'm
hoping
that
our
committee
can
start
using
surveys.
D
We
have
a
service
called
pulco
that
I
think
that's
what
you're
already
referencing,
but
if
we
can
learn
from
this
and
create
surveys
that
maybe
just
help
us
get
information
in
the
future,
I
mean
this
is
a
good.
This
is
a
good
jumping
off
point
for
a
lot
of
things.
I
hope
sonia
you
had.
C
Yes,
I
received
the
surveys
myself
and
I'm
not
impressed
with
the
technology.
C
I
need
to
probably
sit
down
and
do
it
at
a
computer,
because
I
tried
to
do
it
several
times
for
my
cell
phone,
my
iphone
and
multiple
times.
I
could
not
get
the
address
to
pull
up
and
then
once
I
was
able
to
get
my
address
put
up.
It
wouldn't
respond
to
where,
where
I
was
supposed
to
click
to
add
into
my
access
code
like
it
was
not
easy.
So
hopefully
we
will
get
enough
people
to
interact
and
do
it.
C
C
It
just
says:
if
you
have
any
problems,
please
call
okay,
so
I
probably
could
do
that
as
well,
but
just
adding
in
just
my
own
experience.
Okay
coin.
F
F
Why
aren't
we
seeing
summons
and
complaints
on
parcc
rules
they're,
always
in
something
that's
in
code?
I
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there.
It
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
from
a
code
standpoint,
a
legal
standpoint
to
equate
enforcing
park
rules,
but
using
code
that
have
almost
nothing
to
do
with
park
rules.
F
B
All
right:
well,
this
is
really
good
conversation
and
I
think
you
know
you've.
Now.
We've
now
been
brought
into
the
loop
and
we're
aware
of
what's
being
considered,
and
we
know
the
next
steps
so
we'll
we'll
keep
this
front
and
center
and
of
course
monica
will
continue
to
attend
both
the
park
meetings
and
the
the
off-leash
committee
meeting.
So
thank
you
all
dave.
Did
you
have
another
comment
so.
H
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
only
takeaway
that
I'm
that
I'm
hearing,
and
so
that
monica-
and
I
can
relay
this
to
the
committee
when
we
meet
again,
which
might
be
in
february
or
march-
is
that
you
were
interested
in
hearing
more
about
possible
licensing
concerns
or
bringing
that
forward
to
this
committee
as
well.
That
you'd
be
interested
in
hearing
that,
because
you've
discussed
it
right,
colleen
was
concerned
about
park,
rules
are
enforced
and
that
that's
currently
under
11-4-3
park
rules
violation.
H
It
is
a
municipal
ordinance
charge,
and
that
includes
any
posted
signs
or
violations,
including
anything
that
might
be
posted
on
the
official
inglewood
website,
which
has
been.
I
believe,
city
council
approved
that
as
the
official
posting
site
of
notices
and
information,
every
single
park
that
you
enter
in
the
city
of
inglewood
does
have
posted
park
signs.
Some
of
them
may
be
adjusted
or
need
to
be
adjusted,
but
they
do
include
non-smoking
in
parks
par.
That
is,
a
park
rule
that's
enforced.
H
H
B
F
F
B
Okay,
carson
did
you
have
your
hand
raised.
E
Yeah,
just
in
regards
to
supervisor
lewis
asking
about
you
know
what
we
thought
of
it
like
like,
for
instance,
like
some
things,
aren't
like
hard
decided,
they're
like
on
duncan
part.
It
talks
about
possibly
an
open-ended
fence
in
the
middle
versus,
like
I
mean,
or
is
that
the
proposal
to
do
a
single
fence
in
the
middle?
H
H
It
will
allow
us
to
enforce
ordinance
more
fairly
and
more
effectively
without
having
all
the
loopholes
or
complications
that
we
currently
are.
H
That's
really
was
just
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed.
It
wasn't,
even
I
don't
think,
moved
forward
by
council
and
I
would
not
recommend
having
that
conversation
with
council
or
council
having
entertaining
that
idea
as
part
of
this
package,
because
it
is
more
complex
than
just
changing
a
few
locations
where
animals
are
being
being
allowed
to
use
park
facilities
and
how
those
are
being
used.
H
I
think
that
is
a
more
complex
issue
that
would
require
a
rewrite
in
the
code,
and
I
would
really
garnish
public
input
on
that
and
how
that
would
go
forward.
It
was
just
an
idea
that
was
brought
forward,
like
monica
said
we're
really
having
a
struggle
with
people
utilizing
our
facilities
that
do
not
live
in
inglewood,
and
so
they
were
really
looking
at.
A
special
like
boulder
does
special
permitting
to
utilize
certain
off-leash
parks,
and
if
you
didn't
live
in
the
city
of
inglewood,
you
would
pay
a
higher
fee
to
utilize.
H
E
I
see
I
mean
I
like
what
you're
saying
about
separating
licensing
out
from
it
and
that,
because
you
know
the
whole
plan
that
all
these
people
work
together
to
come
up
with
how
to
equitably
use
the
parks.
That
makes
sense.
I
know
that's
a
lot
of
people
that
were
involved
with
you
know
opposite
interests
and
you've
gotten
80
buy-in
I
mean
that's,
that's
huge.
I
think.
Yes,
let's
have
the
rest
of
the
public.
E
B
Okay,
all
right
sonia.
J
F
B
Sonia
there's
there
should
be
a
button
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen
that
says
mute
it.
Actually,
there
you
go
there,
you
go.
C
Okay,
yes,
when
I
was
reading
all
the
park
review
reviews,
I
completely
all
the
parks,
I
really
know
indepthly
everything
that
they
were
recommending.
I
really
agreed
with
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
so
any
of
the
parks
that
I've
gone
to
in
the
last
year
and
walked
through.
I
could
really
see
that
they
put
a
lot
of
thought
and
input
to
who
uses
it
and
what's
going
to
create
the
most
safety
for
the
people
in
the
park.
C
B
F
Go
there
we
go.
I
had
actually
gone
to
the
dave
lee
and
I
forget
her
name,
the
part
director
and
recommended
a
few
things,
because
at
bates
logan
park
we
never
know
when
somebody's
going
to
be
there
using
the
ball
field
or
whatever
and
they're
supposed
to
put
a
sign
up
with
people
that
have
applied
for
permits
to
use
any
one
thing:
it's
unreadable,
it's
like
hey,
I
mean
even
with
the
most
with
a
huge
magnifying
glass.
You
can't
read
it.
F
It's
really
tiny
and
it
doesn't
say
who's
doing
it
and
what
their
requirements
are,
and
there
have
been
a
lot
of
problems
with
people
getting
permits
and
they
take
over
the
park
and
nobody
else
can
use
it
and
they're
never
inglewood
residents
and
I
had
recommended
that
they
prioritize
inglewood
residents
that
they
do
a
better
job
of
signing
this
and
maybe
utilize
code
enforcement
and
park
rangers
whenever
somebody
is
permitted
to
use
a
certain
area
of
the
park
to
make
sure
that
that's
all
they're
using
and
not
taking
over
the
whole
park.
F
Because,
more
than
one
time
and
it's
been
since
cobin
too,
there
was
a
permit
issued
for
a
50
group
member,
no
more
than
50
people
and
there
were
literally
300
people
there
and
you
couldn't
walk
through.
You
couldn't
have
your
dog
on
a
leash.
You
couldn't
do
anything
because
they
were
so
rowdy
and
they
left
so
much
trash.
F
But
so
I
made
a
recommendation
and
dave
lee
and
I
forget
her
name
again.
The
director
said
those
were
very
good
ideas
and
she
was
going
to
do
something
about
it.
But
nothing's
happened
yet
still
can't
read,
who
has
permission
to
be
in
the
park
and
who
doesn't-
and
I
think
originally
parks
were
for
families
and
their
pets
and
they
played
and
up
until
a
few
years
ago
we
even
had
dog
obedience
classes,
permitted,
use
dog
obedience
classes.
F
F
It's
about
the
use
of
park,
but
it
seems
to
be
there's
other
issues
about
the
use
of
parks,
and
that's
the
that
is
the
topic
is
the
use
of
the
parks
and
dogs
are
being
restricted
and
people
are
being
restricted,
but
the
people
that
are
being
restricted
are
more
denver
schools
that
are
using
our
parks
and
to
the
detriment
of
the
homeowners
in
the
area
that
want
to
use
the
parks,
but
that's
all
part
of
the
park
rules
so,
but
I
think
the
reason
it
happened
is
because
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
don't
want
dogs
to
use
the
parks.
B
Okay,
all
right,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close.
This
discussion
and
I
appreciate
monica
and
dave
keeping
us
in
the
loop
and
we'll
continue
to
look
forward.
Progress
and
dave
feel
free
to
take
anything
back
to
the
committee
that
you
learned.
J
B
B
But
with
this
you
can
see
in
2020
we
had
a
list
and
I've
identified
a
couple
of
things
that
we've
addressed
and
completed
number
one.
We
updated
our
bylaws
because
our
enabling
legislation
had
changed
and
number
two.
We
we
presented
an
amendment
to
animal
code
for
dogs
and
cats
or
animals
in
general
that
were
suffering
from
neglect
and
abuse.
B
B
This
time
last
year,
I've
added
what
colleen
had
talked
about
at
our
last
meeting
that
we
wanted
to
do
it.
You
know
just
a
complete
overview
and
rewrite
of
chapter
one,
a
through
c
for
public,
safe
safety
on
animals
and
foul
and
dogs
and
cats
and
animals
in
general.
B
Is
there
something
that
we
should
take
off
because
we've
you
know
it's
no
longer
relevant
or
somebody
else
is
addressing
it
or
do
we
want
to
reprioritize
how
things
are
listed
here
and
what
we
should
be
working
on
next,
so
I'm
going
to
go
around
the
room
and
and
ask
people
just
to
provide
you
know,
based
on
what
I
just
asked
for
you
know,
give
me
your
feedback:
do
we
have
the
right
things
listed,
that
we
should
be
working
on
in
2021,
and
if
we
don't
what
what
should
we.
J
B
E
My
I
mean
my
initial
feeling
is
you
know
great.
I
like
that
we
got
the
couple
things
done
and
we're
doing
good
on
the
trees,
and
I
mean
in
general
I
feel
good
about
the
existing
prioritization
list.
I'd
like
to
ask
supervisor
lewis,
I
know
you
are
about
to
present
to
the
other
committee
that
I'm
on
right
now,
the
the
committee
that's
considering
single
hauler,
and
I
know
you
had
input
related
to
like
trash
hauling
issues
around
that
is.
Are
there
things
around
that
that
we
should
be
considering.
E
H
Think
what
you
might
want
to
consider
is
once
the
task
force
has
completed
what
they
need
to
do
that.
Maybe
you
do
the
same
thing
that
you
just
did
with
the
off-leash
task
force
that
this
committee
may
review
just
the
process
and
maybe
make
any
recommendation,
not
recommendations,
but
just
see
if
how
it
would
impact
the
processes
of
code
enforcement,
because
I'll
talk
about
illegal
dumpings
and
large
items
when
I
meet
with
your
group.
But
I
think
it's
important
for
this
committee
to
to
be
reminded
that
this
is
something
that's
being
evaluated.
E
Okay,
so
that's
the
other
thing
chair,
bowden
is
eventually
we're
gonna,
possibly
have
a
change
in
the
whole
way
that
I
mean
we
don't
know
that
there's
even
that
our
committee
is
gonna,
end
up,
recommending
it
or
not
or
and
even
if
we
did,
if
city
council
is
going
to
choose
to
vote
on
it
themselves
or
put
it
to
ballot,
we
don't.
E
B
E
I
think
our
committee
record,
I
mean
it's,
it's
very,
very
unfirm,
so
currently
we're
working
on
defining
a
new
rfp
and
we
still
have
probably.
I
would
guess
a
couple
months
before
that
rfp
is
done
and
then
that'll
go
out
and
then
you
know,
potential
providers
will
have.
You
know,
I'm
sure,
a
couple
months
to
respond
to
that.
E
And
then
our
committee
will
probably
have
at
least
a
couple
months
evaluating
those
responses
and
then
we'll
give
recommendation
to
city
council,
and
then
you
know
who
knows
how
fast
anything
might
happen
there,
but
I
would
say
that
it'd
be
late
next
year
at
the
soonest.
F
B
C
B
You
thank
you
all
right
monica.
B
B
Let
me
let
me
see
how
the
rest
of
the
committee
members
feel
sonya.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
about
priorities
for
2021.
G
C
We
can't
hear
you
here,
we
go
sorry,
I
am
not
a
techie
person
tonight.
Things
have
not
been
working.
No,
I
feel
just
so
happy
that
we
got
as
much
done
in
the
last
eight
months
with
covid
that
we
have
done
so.
I
feel
like,
as
I
think
we
should
just
start
moving
along
and
I
think
things
are
going
to
come
to
our
attention
when
they
when
we
need
to
work
on
them,
but
I
feel
like
we're
getting
everything
done.
I'm
happy
with
what
we're
working
on.
F
F
F
We
can
suggest
whatever
we
submit
revisions
to
code,
to
put
the
code
into
the
violation,
bureau
and
limit
or
tier
the
fines
per
code
for
each
code
and
bring
such
code
into
the
established
process
of
title
15.,
but
we
can't
just
say
anywhere
in
the
code
everything's
going
to
be
tiered
fines
and
so
there's
you
know
it's
kind
of
something:
it's
not
really
our
purview
to
set
fines,
they're
set
by
council
in
court.
F
F
Because
there's
no
way,
I
don't
know
what
that
means,
except
that
code
enforcement
would
then
be
collecting
the
money,
and
I
don't
think
that's
what
anybody
wants,
not
even
code
enforcement,
and
we
do
have
a
process
already
set
up
where,
if
you,
you
can't
keep
somebody
from
going
to
court
and
opposing
what
or
pleading
innocent,
but
if
they
don't
want
to
go
to
court.
There
is
an
online
process,
so
they
don't
have
to
go
down
to
the
courthouse
and
just
pay
the
fine.
If
that's
what
we're
talking
about?
That's
a
done
deal.
F
And
occupancy
registration-
I
don't
remember
that
ever
being
discussed.
The
problem
was,
according
to
the
code
enforcement
supervisor,
contacting
owners
and
holding
owners
responsible
for
property
violations,
particularly
out-of-state
owners,
trust
corporations
and
property
undergoing
title
transfers.
F
F
F
So
I
think
we
should
stick
to
cleaning
up
the
codes
that
are
a
mess
and
it's
going
to
take
a
while
to
get
anything
through
on
the
trees
and
shrubs,
because
when
they
eliminated
the
forestry
department
they
didn't
change
all
the
other
codes.
You
know
the
few
that
are
remaining
and
we
can
discuss
that
when
we
go
through
that,
but
it
there's
nobody
in
the
city
that's
going
around
and
checking
on
street
trees.
F
B
There
were
some
codes
that
needed
to
be
cleaned
up
and
updated.
Do
you
have
a
any
specifics
on
what
codes?
Those
are.
F
But
mostly
the
tree
and
shrub
one
we
did
snow
and
ice,
it
didn't
come
out
quite
the
way
we
wanted,
but
it's
not
too
bad.
What
did
come
up
in
that
one
was
that
the
city
attorney
said
it's
a
good
idea
to
move
a
lot
of
these
codes
into
the
via.
You
know
the
fines
into
the
violation
bureau
and
one
of
the
reasons
she
gave,
though
she
didn't
specify
it.
Quite
this
way
is
the
general
penalty
allows
for
a
twenty
six
hundred
and
fifty
dollar
fine
and
that's
felony
weight.
F
So
she
did
offer
the
the
option
of.
F
Of
she
said
all
you
know
like
title
15
and
anything
code.
Enforcement
in
forces
should
probably
be
in
the
violation
bureau
and
a
limitation
on
the
fines.
F
But
I
would
say
that
the
I
don't
think
it's
within
our
purview
because
of
our
enabling
legislation,
but
the
park
ordinance
in
title
11
is
a
little
bit
weak
and
it
may
come
up
in
this
discussion
on
park
rules.
F
I
don't
have
it
right
in
front
of
me,
but
it's
not
within
our
purview,
because
you
know
it's
not
part
of
the
things
that
we're
supposed
to
be
discussing,
except
as
it
relates
to
dogs.
I
assume,
because
there
does
seem
to
be
a
little
overlap
there.
F
Title
15
is
a
bit
weak,
there's
the
vehicle
code.
I
think
it's
the
last
one
in
title:
15,
that's
the
only
vehicle
code.
We
have
per
view
over
and
that's
the
one
that
says
one
off
off-street
parking
for
inoperable
vehicles
and
one
off-road
vehicle
can
be
parked
on
private
property,
but
the
citizen
initiative
that
was
done
in
oh
gosh.
I
just
lost
track
of
when
it
was
done.
2D.
F
F
To
vehicles
yeah
it's
right
at
the
end,
I
forget,
I
think
it's
title,
15,
nine,
something:
okay
and
then,
of
course,
depending
upon
what
the
attorney.
F
If
the
attorney
replaced
dog
and
cat
with
domesticated
animals,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
codes
in
there
that
make
no
sense
and
are
really
inappropriate.
Like
molesting
birds,
it
doesn't
apply.
You
know,
it's
been
left
over
from
a
one.
Size
fits
all
so
that
entire
that
you
were
adding
still
needs
to
be
discussed.
F
Horses
and
they're
prohibited
right,
so
there's
no
point
in
having
and
other
animals
code
at
all
and
there's
two
different
definitions
of
that
large
and
it'd
take
a
while
to
sort
all
that
out.
Okay,.
B
J
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
the
list
looks
great.
I
think
you
know
colleen
raised
some
really
great
points,
and
I
just
don't
know
enough
on
whether
we
should
or
shouldn't
be
talking
about
some
of
this
stuff,
but
I
think
we
can
figure
that
out
as
we
go,
and
I
think
sonia
also
raised
good
point
that
you
know
stuff's
gonna
come
out
come
up
throughout
the
year.
That's
gonna
require
our
focus,
so
I
I
think
you
know
it's
a
great
starting
point
and
just
take
the
year
as
it
comes.
J
B
Thank
you
cara.
I'm
I'm
very
much
in
agreement.
I
think
that
priorities
and
a
plan
are
good
the
day
you
put
you
put
it
down
on
paper
and
it
needs
to
be
reviewed
continually.
So
I
subscribe
to
that
before
giving
my
opinion,
I
wanted
to
ask
council
member
russell
if
there's
any
priorities
that
she
sees
coming
up
on
city
council,
that
may
impact
code
that
we
need
to
proactively
address.
I
B
Thank
you
and
then
supervisor
lewis,
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot
here,
because
I
think
we
started
this
conversation
last
year
with
you
know
what
is
your
focus
for
2020
and
you
provided
us
some
good
insight
and
that
actually
helped
us
form
our
priorities,
and
so
we'd
like
to
hear
again
from
you.
You
know
what
are
the
priorities
for
code
enforcement
in
2021
that
we
can
best
support
you
with.
H
So
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
few
of
the
things
that
are
on
this
list.
If
that's
okay,
number
two,
I
don't
really,
I
agree
with
coween.
I
don't
think
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
discussed.
H
We've
had
conversations
with
the
city
attorney
the
the
court,
as
well
as
the
city
attorney,
are
going
to
be
reassessing
and
adding
additional
violations
to
the
violation
bureau
and
that
just
that
really
is
just
to
make
it
more
consistent
with
other
municipalities
and
to
make
it
easier
for
our
court
systems
bogging
down
a
court
system
for
a
barking
dog.
H
It
doesn't
really
make
sense,
and
if
somebody
has
the
option
to
go
to
the
violation
bureau
and
pay
a
fine
or
contested
at
that
time,
they
are
more
than
welcome
to
do
that.
So
that's
going
to
be
evaluated
through
the
city
attorney
and
the
judge
we
won't
ever
find
on
on
spot.
I
think
that
was
more
for
the
violation
bureau.
We
are
making
it
easier
for
us
to
issue
free
infractions
and
violation
bureau
tickets.
H
H
We
have
seen
a
lot
of
concerns
and
I
did
bring
this
forward
and
it
might
be
something
you
want
to
reconsider.
It
is
part
of
a
title,
16
and
title
16
is
currently
being
is
under
review
and
would
not
be.
I
wouldn't
make
this
recommendation
at
this
time.
I
think
it
would
really
burden
the
city.
G
H
Okay,
we're
already
title
five.
I
think
we
are
number
five
we've
addressed.
I
think
we've
talked
about
that
we're
not
doing
anything
different
with
rental
properties.
I
think
it
was
more
of
a
registration
similar
to
strs,
where
rental
properties
would
need
to
register
an
emergency
contact,
and
that's
really
not
something
within
our
department.
It
was
a
recommendation
through
community
development
and
zoning.
So
that
might
not
be
something
that
you
want
to
undertake
and
again
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
to
work
on
that.
D
H
I
would
consider
moving
forward
with
animal
licensing.
I
think,
there's
a
huge
benefit
and
that
would
be
a
huge,
separate
meeting.
But
you
guys
have
heard
a
little
bit
about
that.
The
biggest
thing
and
I'm
on
tuesday
council
did
have
a
conversation
about
the
title:
seven
and
bringing
that
forward
the
city
rev.
H
The
city
attorney
did
ask
for
direction
from
city
council
about
a
review
of
the
animal
ordinances
in
title
vii
and
they
are
moving
back
moving
forward
with
sending
you
which
they
did
already
for
your
review
and
you'll
have
a
special
meeting
about
impounding
and
cruelty
and
neglect
those
were
the
that
was
the
component
of
that.
But
this
further
triggered
conversations
and
reviews
by
the
city
attorney
and
code
enforcement
and
other
departments.
H
H
H
So
it's
not
going
to
well
it's
up
to
you.
All
city
council
said
that
they
want
it
to
be
brought
forward
at
a
later
time.
However,
the
concern
of
the
city
attorney
and
the
concern
of
code
enforcement
is,
if
we
we
can
they've
agreed
to
move
forward
with
the
one
section.
However,
there
is
bigger
conversation
that
needs
to
be
had
by
council
and
potentially
for
your
review,
and
I
think
councilmember
russell
did
indicate
that
they
they
would
really
like
you
to
look
at
parts
of
it.
Some
of
it
can't
be
changed.
H
I
Council
member
russell,
thank
you
and
I
had
forgot
that
supervisor
louis
it
was
brought
up
that
there
were
more
some
more
concerns,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
supervisor
lewis
is
aware
of
those
things
that
we
might
need
to
talk
about,
so
I
just
suggested
that
it
come
back
to
this
county.
So
that
may
be
something
that
you
would
want
to
put
on
the
priority
list.
I
H
Say
so
only
because
it
is
something
that
does
need
to
happen
because
you
did
trigger
we.
We
knew
that
this
potentially
could
happen
trigger
review
of
other,
like
when
you
change
one
part
of
code.
It
triggers
multiple
areas
of
code
that
need
to
be
changed,
and
so
there
will
be.
There
has
to
be
changes
in
other
parts
of
title,
seven
to
be
compliant
with
state
law.
Now
that
you've
reviewed
part
of
title
vii
and
be
compliant
with
being
more
consistent.
B
H
Know
I
know
no
and
the
title
15
review.
I
would
really
caution
you
on
on
doing
any
kind
of
review
with
that
portion.
It
was
a
citizen
initiative
and
can
only
be
changed
by
a
citizen
vote.
So
that's
really
not
something
that
this
that
this
committee
or
even
council
can
consider,
because
it
can
only
be
undone
at
this
point
by
a
vote
of
the
people.
F
Coween
yeah,
no,
it
wasn't
changed
according
to
2d.
They
changed
a
lot
of
things
that
shouldn't
have
been
changed,
but
they
didn't
change
those
two
things:
it's
not
compatible
with
2d
because
it
says
it
limits.
One
and
2d
specifically
stated
it
can't
be
limited.
F
In
vehicles-
and
it
was
supposed
to
have
been
changed
and
it
was
not-
and
I've
gone
round
and
round
with
the
courts
on
this
and
they
agreed
so
there's
nothing.
F
That
was
the
only
thing
that
should
have
been
changed
is
that
limitation
of
one
off-road
vehicle
and
one
unlicensed
vehicle
it
should
be.
F
It's
a
mistake,
so
it
does
need
to
be
addressed,
but
that's
a
real
simple
thing:
2d
says
you
can't
limit
it,
so
you
just
take
out
the
one
and
that's
that
is
truly
a
really
simple
thing.
As
far
as
other
things,
I
mean
it's
very
well
within
our
purview
because
it
it's
not
2d
is
already
passed
and
it
doesn't
reflect
what
2d
said.
But
that's
I
mean
if
we
want
to
add
it.
F
It's
a
very
simple
thing:
it's
a
lot
more
simple
than
the
impound,
which
I
cautioned
you
all
that
if
we
just
added
the
one
impound
under
other
animals,
it
might
not
trigger
a
big
change,
but
it
is
going
to
trigger
a
big
change.
It
has
already
triggered
a
big
change,
so
I
will
say:
we'd
concentrate
first
on
the
eab
and
what
we
can
do
about
that
and
communicate
with
citizens
and
then
delve
into
title
vii,
because
that
is
part
of
this
park
initiative
too,
and
we
need
to
have
that
cleaned
up
and.
F
F
That's
the
development
code
and
we
not
even
code
enforcement,
has
anything
to
do
with
that,
except
if
code,
if
community
development
asks
them
to
act
as
agents
for
service
of
process
for
the
investigation.
F
Okay,
all
right,
I
would
say
that
you
know
the
eab
is
going
to
take
a
considerable
and
the
tree
and
shrub
codes
going
to
take
considerable
thought.
Dealing
with
title.
Seven
is
going
to
take
some
considerable
thought.
The
other
things
on
here,
except
for
maybe
ally
and
weeds.
The
other
things
as
dave
said,
are
not
things
we
want
to
address
right
now,
great.
B
Thank
you.
Well.
That
was
a
really
helpful
conversation,
especially
in
light
of
the
fact
that
I
didn't
know
what
some
of
these
things
were.
Of
course,
I
wasn't
at
the
meeting
where
it
was
discussed,
but
thank
you
all
for
for
going
through
that,
and
I
I
concur
with
what
cohen
just
summarized
that
I
think
we've
got
our
priorities
right
with
focusing
on
tree
and
shrub
code
and
helping
the
city
get
processes
in
place
in
order
to
help
residents
with
the
upcoming
infestation.
B
I
do
think
the
the
the
following
five
after
that
are
something
things
that
we
need
to
keep
on
our
radar
and
with
those
as
we
progress
with
trees.
We
we
prioritize
those
five
moving
forward.
Nobody
really
mentioned
the
the
committee
guidelines
for
communication.
B
The
idea
there
was
that,
when
in
social
media
right
now,
if
someone
from
the
community
has
a
question
on
code,
city
is
not
allowed
to
answer
the
code
because
they're
they're
not
allowed
to
to
monitor
it.
So
we
have
an
opportunity
to
help
residents,
understand
code
and
respond
in
a
thoughtful,
meaningful,
positive
way
on
on
how
code
is
written
and
help
them
with
their
question,
and
that
was
what
that
was
was
designed
to
be.
So.
B
B
You
guys
that
was
very
fruitful
next
on
our
agenda
was
to
start
talking
about
eab
and
what
the
first
that
I
want
thing
that
I
wanted
to
do
was
to
share
with
you
the
the
exercise
that
cohen
and
I
went
through
to
help
explain
right
now
what
our
processes
are,
and
I
I
prepared
what
I
guess
is
a
flow
chart,
but
I
did
it
in
a
spreadsheet
format
so
that
it
didn't
confuse
people
because
it
can
get
quite
complicated,
but
I
was
what
I
was
trying
to
do
was
to
show
how
our
existing
code
is
is
is
working,
and
I
sent
that
to
you.
B
So
the
question
is:
if
a
resident
doesn't
have
an
ash
tree,
what
happens
right
now?
Nothing!
Our
code
says
nothing,
but
we
know
what
happens
nothing.
The
rip
we
don't
the
resident
doesn't
need
to
worry,
but
if
a
resident
does
have
an
ash
tree,
what
happens
after
that?
Well,
if
they
have
an
ash
tree,
that's
not
infected,
nothing
happens,
but
if
they
do
have
an
ash
tree,
what
happens
after
that
and
then
there's
all
kinds
of
things
that
occur,
the
the
copy?
That's
in
the
light
gray,
that's
actually
the
code
itself.
B
I
provided
that
for
you,
so
you
could
see
how
it's
written.
There
is
an
element
where
the
city
is
allowed
to
issue
an
emergency
notice,
and
if,
under
that
then
then
the
whole
process
takes
a
different
path.
But
as
you
go
down
through
here,
you
can
see
what
happens
if
the
tree
is
under
emergency
notice
and
then
own
an
owner
doesn't
fix
it
and
they
don't
pay
what
happens
and
if
it's
not
under
an
order
then,
and
the
resident
doesn't
take
care
of
it.
B
They
get
a
warrant
and
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
we're
running
out
of
time.
But
if
you
wouldn't
mind
taking
the
time
and
effort
to
read
through
that
and
understand
how
how
we
currently
are
set
up,
the
other
thing
is,
I
wanted
to
brainstorm
with
you
all
based
on
on
this
information
and
also
from
all
the
work
that
we've
done
so
far
with
looking
at
other
cities
and
you've
heard
several
of
us
talk
about
ideas.
B
I
think
I
heard
cohen
say
earlier
today
that
if
a
you
know
a
resident,
doesn't
you
know
or
if
a
resident
needs
help
with
identifying
a
tree,
or
you
know
addressing
a
diseased
tree,
the
city
should
be
able
to
help.
Does
our
current
code
address
that?
Well,
the
answer
is
no,
but
it's
those
types.
So
I
want
to
brainstorm
in
a
perfect
world.
B
What
what
would
it
look
like
if,
if,
if,
if
we
have
the
ability
to
write
code
and
again,
it's
not
about
code,
but
it's
about
what
we
want
to
see
happen,
and
I
actually
did
that
myself.
So
I
wanted
to
show
you
some
examples
of
what
those
id
ideal
scenarios
would
be,
and-
and
this
is
this-
I
didn't
send
this
out
to
you,
because
I
would
I
would
like
everybody
to
kind
of
come
up
with
their
own
ideas.
B
I
know
cohen,
you
and
al
went
through
and
did
a
lot
of
these,
but
you
know
residents
need
help
with
their
ash
trees.
They
need
help
identifying
them
determining
the
condition
helping
with
mitigation
treatment
plans
tree
removal
tree
tree
disposal.
B
B
The
city
needs
to
be
able
to
prune
spray
or
remove
any
diseased
or
infested
trees.
So
what
we
would
do
is
we'd
go
through
and
brainstorm
all
these.
These
are
what
I
did
on
my
own,
but
I'd
like
each
of
you
to
do
that
and
we'll
go
through
that
the
next
meeting,
and
then
we
look
at
those
and
compare
it
to
our
current
code.
Does
our
current
code
fit?
Does
it
work
and
then
that
will
inform
us
moving
forward,
so
the
our
next?
B
So
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
end
our
conversation
there
with
today
for
today
and
then
ask
for
any
topics
for
our
next
meeting.
I
definitely
would
like
to
have
eab,
and
this
is
not
the
special
meeting.
This
is
our
full
meeting
in
february
just
to
just
the
the
eab
in
terms
of
brainstorming.
What
we
think
we
we
would
like
to
see
happen
and
then
I
can
also
review
the
existing
process.
Is
there
any
other
agenda
items
you'd
like
to
see
cohen.
F
You
go
something
happened
to
my
screen
and
I
can't
see
anybody
and
I
can't
get
anything
up.
Okay,
yeah.
I
I
think,
if
we're
only
going
to
have
an
hour
meeting
on
what
the
city
attorney
is
proposing
and
I
think
it's
going
to
end
up
we're
gonna
have
to
say
we
can't
go
ahead
with
this
without
a
complete
review
which
is
okay.
So
I
think
we
need
to
put
a
deter.
F
You
know
a
conversation
with
the
city
attorney
and
or
a
discussion
on
other
changes
that
need
to
be
made
to
title
seven:
okay,
chapter
one
a
through
c,
and
I
think
those
two
things
I
mean
if
we
can
get
through
anything
on
emerald
ash
borer
in
an
hour,
that'd
be
great,
but
if
we
haven't
been
able
to
resolve-
or
we
see
that
we
do
really
need
to
go
forward
really
far
forward
on
title
seven
at
the
individual
meeting
I
mean
the
special
meeting,
we're
going
to
end
up
doing
that.
B
B
B
So
I
we
we
already
just
set
the
february
second
meeting,
I'm
just
trying
to
recall
what
we
set
for
our
regular
meeting
in
february
and
I
apologize
15th
18th
great
okay,
thank
you.
So
the
next
meeting
will
be
on
the
18th
and
then
we'll
follow
up
with
minutes
from
today
and
an
agenda
for
our
next
meeting
and
then
I
will
also
be
following
up
with
everybody
on
our
meeting
on
february,
2nd
to
review
the
recommended
changes
from
the
city
attorney
and
with
that,
I'm
going
to
call
this
meeting
to
a
close.