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From YouTube: CEAC 7 19 2023 Meeting Recording
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1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes
Consideration of minutes from June 21, 2023
3. Public Forum
E-mail from CEAC Member / Englewood Citizen E. Hughes.
4. Code Enforcement Significant Events
Code Enforcement 2023 Q1 Report
5. Update from City Council Liaison
a. Council Member Rita Russell
6. Communications Sub-Committee Update
a. Member Robert Watson or Alt. Member Tara Redavid
7. Unfinished Business
Review and discussion on Code Enforcement 2023 Priorities.
Review proposed changes to Title 6, Chapter 5, Section 6-5-2 of the Englewood Municipal Code Establishing property re-inspection fees.
8. New Business
a. Member Emmelhainz's draft letter to Council regarding Police RMS System.
9. Committee Member's Choice
10. Topics for Future Meetings
a. Schedule next CEAC meeting - August 16, 2023 6PM
Elections and Oath of Office for appointments at August 2023 Meeting
11. Adjournment
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A
C
C
That
was
unanimous,
unanimous
minutes
approved
and
we'll
move
on
as
a
Program
forum
There's
an
opportunity
for
the
public
to
address
expectation.
That
presentation
will
be
conducted
in
a
respectful
manner
in
the
numbers
may
ask
questions
for
clarification,
but
there
won't
be
a
back
and
forth.
Please
submit
your
presentation
to
three
minutes.
Is
anyone
president
who
wishes
to
speak?
Please
come
forward.
E
I
wasn't
going
to
come,
even
though
I
was
a
little
upset
about
some
things
that
had
happened
at
the
last
meeting,
but
I
got
an
email
from
the
city
attorney
which
concerned
me.
As
a
former
member
of
this
committee,
I
can
attest
to
the
process
that
was
confirmed
and
followed
seven
day,
Kim
formal
notice,
14-day
posting
notice,
with
the
option
of
administrative
appeal
before
his
summons
and
complaint
can
be
issued.
That's
the
21
days
that
was
referred
to
in
the
last
meeting.
E
It's
still
in
effect,
and
it's
on
it's
in
the
code,
title
15
and
it's
on
the
code
division
website
under
fax,
and
it's
been
that
way
since
2018.
seven
day,
informal
14-day
posting
notice,
optioned
for
administrative
appeal,
there
is
no
process
indicated
that
allows
for
the
formal
17-day
notice
to
be
used
or
excused
is
educational.
It
is
always
a
warning.
It
says
so
right
in
the
code.
E
This
is
a
new
process
that
is
not
substantiated
by
code
as
a
recipient
of
a
formal
14-day
posting
notice.
I
am
concerned
about
the
violations
of
my
brights
to
appeal
administratively,
but
I'm
most
concerned
about
the
code
section
in
title.
15
that
says
receipt
of
three
such
notices
of
violation
is
prima
foshee
evidence
of
willful
violation
code
doesn't
matter
what
code
section
is
violated,
three
of
them
and
it's
it
subjects.
Any
individual.
E
E
Part
of
it
says
you
may
always
call
me
directly
to
have
these
conversations.
Your
case
has
been
closed.
Based
on
your
testimony
at
seag,
no
administrative
hearing
is
available
to
you
on
this
case
or
any
case
where
the
notice
is
used
for
educational
purposes
or
as
a
warning
and,
as
I
previously
said,
there's
no
nothing
in
code
or
even
in
the
code,
division,
facts
and
processes
that
talks
about
educational
use
of
a
14-day
notice,
and
it's
always
been
a
warning.
My
finished
sentences,
you
didn't
give
me
any
warning.
C
B
B
C
E
And
I,
the
only
response
I
got
was
a
notice
that
my
question
had
been
sent
to
code
enforcement,
the
code
enforcement
manager,
Dave
Lewis,
and
this
is
the
response
and
then
at
the
then
yesterday
I
got
a
follow-up
from
the
city
attorney.
Who
said?
Did
you
ever
get
the
appeal
form
because
I'd
asked
for
it
from
the
city
clerk
and
she
said
yes,
she
could
give
it
to
me,
but
then
I
never
got
it.
E
Get
in
contact
Miss
Dickerson!
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
speak
at
CA,
see
act
last
night.
You
may
always
call
me
directly
to
have
these
conversations.
Your
case
has
been
closed.
Based
on
your
testimony
at
seaac.
No
administrative
hearing
is
available
to
you
on
this
case
or
in
any
case
where
the
notice
is
used
for
educational
purposes
or
a
warning,
though
the
coach
says
it
right
in
just.
E
E
E
The
primary
role
of
Code
Enforcement
is
to
seek
the
voluntary
compliance,
and
that
is
what
is
archived
with
the
seasonal
notice
do
for
future
reference.
The
administrative
hearing
is
requested
with
the
art
Court
Clerk.
As
stated
in
EMC,
you
may
go
to
the
court
to
request
this,
for
the
record.
I
did
not
say
that
seasonal
coding
officials
were
untrained.
C
C
B
F
B
C
C
We
have
it's
not
his
job
to
run
this
meeting,
it's
not
his
job
to
Define
what
happens
in
this
meeting.
It's
not
his
job
to
Define
anything
about
what
this
citizen
committee
to
the
center
pointed
us
and
we
create
our
bylaws
and
we
go
by
our
bylaws,
we're
going
to
stick
with
the
bylaws.
So
that's
why
that's?
What
we're
doing
right
now,
I
have
a
question
about
why
what
is
the
reason
the
snow
removal
was
so
absolutely
higher.
It's
not
a
seasonal,
higher.
F
F
G
C
C
C
So
we'll
move
on
to
our
unfinished
business
and
we'll
have
to
discuss
this
without
input
from
code
manager
this
because
he
just
left
we're
gonna
review
the
proposed
changes
to
title
6:
chapter
5,
Section,
five,
six,
five,
two
of
the
Inglewood
news
establishing
property
or
inspection.
So
hopefully
everyone's
read
these
changes
and
has
prepared.
C
A
lot
more
I
think
what
would
be
most
appropriate
is
for
us
to
ask
the
City
attorney
to
come
to
our
meeting
and
help
us
understand
it
because
I'm
hearing
it
would
show
up
as
well
as
a
bunch
of
people.
Who've
contacted
me
from
the
community.
People
are
concerned
about
this
and
it's
we've
recommended
some
modifications
to
it,
and
it
came
back
with
some
of
the
modifications
that
make
sense,
but
others
they're
not
clear.
C
It's
still
not
clear
that
this
is
not
going
to
accumulate
for
someone
over
time
and
cause
once
you've
hit
three
over
a
total
period
of
time
across
violations,
then
you
suddenly
start
getting
reinspection
fees,
not
the
way
that
that's
not
the
way
it's
been
in
the
city
and
I
would
be
asking
code
manager
Lewis
to
interpret
this
right
now.
But
what
I
would
recommend
is
that
we
request
the
City
attorney
to
come
to
our
meeting
and
help
us
understand
this
and
I.
C
The
discussion
that
we
asked
and
this
the
language
that
came
back
does
not
make
me
comfortable
that
it
satisfies
what
could
manager
Lewis
explained
to
us.
It
would
do
in
the
meeting
where
he
was
willing
to
talk
to
us
and
the
second
part
is
taking
away
the
judge's
discretion.
So
it's
putting
a
shower
a
shell
on
reinspection
fees
from
if
it's
a
a
judge,
part
and
a
judge
choice.
If
it's
in
the
course
it's
taking
away
the
judge's
choice
and
I,
don't
like
that,
I
think
that
needs
to
be
may
as
well.
C
I
think
we
need
to
allow
the
judge
to
have
discretion
as
well,
because
from
what
I'm
understanding
most
of
the
time
something
even
gets
to
this,
there
is
an
ability
to
pay
whether
it's
an
elderly
person
who
couldn't
mow
their
lawn
quick
enough
because
it
was
raining
or
whatever
and
they're
already
dealing
with
money
issues,
and
the
judge
takes
that
into
account
in
his
decisions.
If
it's
not
someone
who's
repeatedly
negligent,
the
judge
should
have
the
discretion
to
be
able
to
choose,
not
to
find
them,
and
that's
not
in
here
right
now.
C
B
B
C
C
The
code
manager
Lewis
brought
up,
and
this
was
another
one
that
was
kind
of
back
and
forth
where
he
had
brought
up
that
there
were
situations
where
could
enforcement
officer
couldn't
do
anything
because
the
code
specifically
said
dog
and
cat,
but
they
were
dealing
with
like
a
lizard
right.
So
that
kind
of
thing
we
thought
made
great
sense.
We
did
a
separate
recommendation
to
city
council.
We
recommend
we
make
that
you
know.
However,
we
made
it
generic
enough
to
cover
the
legal
pets
that
people
have
right.
B
A
The
code
enforcement
advisory
committee
is
an
advisory
committee
to
city
council
yeah,
and
so
you
don't
make
the
recommendations
to
City
staff
and
that's
part
of
the
reason,
there's
public
forum.
You
need
to
hear
from
the
citizens
what
they
want,
because
we
have
representative
government,
okay,
and
so
this
goes
to
city,
council
and
then
the
city
council
should
you
know,
listen
and
take
into
consideration
your
suggestions
but
you're.
Looking
at
suggestions
from
citizens
and
then
weighing
everything
out.
Okay,.
B
So
in
fact
I
just
so
whatever
it
is,
we
communicate
to
city
council
and
say
we.
The
consensus
is
the
following:
we
think
this
should
happen
or
change
or
whatever
city
council
says.
Thank
you
for
your
input.
City
council
then
decides
what
they
do
with
it.
Exactly
could
put
it
on
a
shelf
where
city
council
could
send
it
to
code
manager,
Lewis
and
say
make
it
happen.
Is
that
is
that
how
it
works?.
B
Okay,
in
any
event,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
the
flow
right
of
the
influence.
So
normally
we
recommend
city
council
city
council
says
thank
you
for
your
input,
ranging
from
we're
going
to
ignore
it
or
we're
going
to
get
behind
at
100.
It
goes
to
the
City
attorney
and
then
something
happens:
I
guess
where
I'm
confused
on
the
50
fee
discussion,
Xiao,
May
Etc.
Where
is
this
coming
from
and
what
is
our
role
so,
for
example,
Carson?
If
you
say
what
you
said
if
I
could
have
just
written
that
down,
I
could
have
said.
B
C
C
It's
it's
us
as
a
body
coming
up
with
what
we
think
makes
sense
and
then
turning
that
into
a
letter
of
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
So
that's
our
output
is
we
we
create
a
letter
to
city
council.
We
give
it
to
our
liaison
city
council
member
Russell.
She
right
and
then
you
take
it
to
city
council.
A
B
Actually
think
at
this
point
we
should
draft
our
letter
to
the
council.
I
think
that
we
should
put
in
the
letter.
If
we
all
agree
the
May
language
and
I
also
believe
that
we
should,
in
our
letters,
say
the
calendar
year.
Issue
needs
to
be
put
back
in
separation
between
violations
and
I.
Think
we
should,
because
we've
been
spinning
our
wheels
on
this
for
a
long
time
and
we've
allowed
different
entities
to
push
us
off
and
it's
making
us
look
inactive
and
I.
B
C
It
goes
to
council.
The
reason
I
was
suggesting
that
is
because
she's
clearly
the
one
who
is
making
these
changes,
which
and
what
has
been
ineffective
is
us
because
we
describe
what
we
wanted
like
we
all
came
to
that
and
asked
could
manager
Lewis
for
that,
and
then
he
took
that
to
City
attorney
and
then
she
came
back
with
this.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
game
of
telephone
going
on
there.
We
didn't,
we
didn't
draft
the
description
of
what
we
wanted,
which
is
what
I
think
we
need
to
do.
C
B
C
How
about
this,
but
let
me
try
to
make
a
motion
to
describe
and
then
we'll
see
if
we're
on
the
same
page,
so
I
would
I
agree
with
member
Vincent.
Let's
go
ahead
and
take
this
step
to
make
our
letter
of
recommendation
to
city
council
I'm,
going
to
keep
it
high
level
and
not
try
to
turn
it
into
legal.
C
C
F
C
I
accept
so
we'll
we'll
make
the
motion
what
I
stated,
but
with
the
the
year,
starting
from
the
first
of
that
per
type.
Obviously,
the
clarification
is
type
right.
I
mean
yes
and
we're
talking
completely
I
know
yeah,
which
I
mean
I,
know,
there's
some
dispute
about
how
they
track
the
type
but
I
think
it's.
If
they're
gonna
do
this.
C
B
For
each
one,
yeah
yeah
and
I
and
I
like
the
12th
month
that
you
bring
up
because,
let's
just
say,
I,
have
a
weed
violation
in
May
and
then
I
have,
and
so
12
months
goes
by
and
then
the
next
year
I
have
two
violations
in
April
I'm,
a
Problem
Child
I
mean
if
I'm
a
habitual
within
a
12-month
period,
I'm
a
frequent
flyer
and
and
that's
a
good
way
to
track.
Yeah.
C
I
agree
and
that's
what
it's
for
and
then
it's
not
designed
around
a
language
that
enables
you
know,
beating
people
off
unnecessarily,
who
are
trying
to
do
the
right
thing.
So,
let's
take
in
that
friendly
Amendment
and
vote
all
in
favor
say
odd,
unanimous
in
favor,
okay,
good
cool!
Thank
you
everyone!
So
we
have
our.
So
what
I'll
do
is
all
all
draft
that
and
include
that
in
our
next
agenda-
and
we
can
agree
in
the
next
meeting
to
send
that
to
city
council
or
modify
it.
Then
beautiful.
G
B
F
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
okay.
So
then
we
have
a
discussion
on
our
priorities,
another
one
that
would
be
supposed
to
have
that
manager.
This
is
so
our
current
when
we
drafted
our
discussion
of
priorities.
What
we
ended
up
with
was
trash,
probably
service
and
pick
up
consistency
Communications
with
public
and
ways
of
getting
our
message
out:
code
enforcement
fact
sheet
social
media
and
magazine
topics
and
messaging,
and
how
to
engage
with
code
enforcement.
C
As
someone
reporting
in
as
someone
contacted
by
photos,
enforcements
discuss
overall
code
enforcement
processes,
protocols
and
procedures
and
discretion
any
other
books
or
things
we
want
to
add
to
this
to
consider
like
prioritization
of
anything
else.
Anyone
wants
to
include
about
their
unique
or
good.
C
C
B
C
So
we
had
done
a
bunch
of
work
on
informing
the
public
about
it
and
we
actually
have
made
some
change
to
municipal
code
regarding
trees
because
it
wasn't
it
was
kind
of
when
we
evaluated
it
like
Inglewood
doesn't
have
like
you
can
have
this
tree.
You
can't
have
this
tree,
but
it
has
recommendations
and
we,
we
went
through
all
of
that
and
updated
code
a
couple
years
ago,
especially
in
regards
to
Emerald
dashboard
and
we
utilized
our
Avenue
of
communication
with
the
public.
C
F
C
The
codes
around
it
are
around
the
rule
because
there
are
code
enforcement
issues
around
tree
like
dead
trees,
tree
branches
over
the
sidewalk,
so
it
that's
partly
why
it
fell
into
US
is
unruly
or
you
know
that
there
are
rules
that
fall
under
code
enforcement
related
to
trees.
And
so
that's
why
I
believe
you
know
and
let.
B
Me
tell
you
why
I
bring
it
so
yeah
we
I'm
also
serving
on
the
sustainability
Community,
okay,
we're
in
the
process
of
drafting
with
the
Forester
specifics
regarding
trees.
Okay,
so
we
are
trying
to
come
up
with
some
things
that
would
would
address
healthy
trees,
how
to
treat
or
treat
on
your
property,
so
to
speak,
to
keep
it
healthy
Etc.
It
seems
duplicitous
a
little
bit
that,
if
we're
doing
it
here
and
they're
doing
it
there
that
we're.
C
Vice,
chair,
co-chair
Vice,
chair
Watson's,
point
about
emerald
ash
borer.
Since
it's
come
up
as
now
it's
here
and
we
have
done
a
ton
of
discussion
about
it.
It
makes
sense
to
like
consider
do
we
need
to
do
anything
about
it,
but
I
think
knowing
that
the
parts
departments
on
it
and
sustainability
is
already
working
on
messaging
and
we've
already
addressed
the
code
AS
completely
as
I
think
we
need
to
so
I
doubt.
We
really
have
anything
else.
F
B
C
Heard
a
tree
for
folders,
you
know
what
I
mean
like
a
bunch
of
as
long
as
it's
a
number
that
I
kept
track
of
it
all,
but
I
can
share
that
with
that
with
you
guys
have
yeah
I
mean
most
of
it's
code
oriented
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
other
information,
anything
that
would
help
us,
because
we
also
did
a
bunch
of
research
and
made
a
whole
grid
on
what
all
the
other
City's
policies
were.
Oh
fantastic.
B
Well,
just
to
add
to
that
we
had
a
discussion
at
our
last
meeting
and
city
council
actually
asked
us
for
our
input
on
a
potential
tree
ordinance,
which
we
generally
think
is
a
great
idea.
If
the
day
comes,
when
Englewood
has
a
tree
ordinance
which
addresses
private
use,
public
trees,
dying,
trees,
planting
trees,
somehow
there
would
probably
be
a
code
Connection
in
there.
If
you
would
want
some
kind
of
you
know
the.
B
B
It's
not
that
hard
and
I
said
in
defense
of
Code
Enforcement
I
said
well,
you
know
they
can't
go
around
with
a
with
a
weed
book.
You
know-
and
it's
still
response
was
we're
talking
about
four
or
five
leads
here:
we're
not
talk
interesting
play
of
what's
reasonable,
so
that
when
the
inspector
goes
down
the
street
or
the
alley
they
could
ascertained.
B
Is
it
an
accidental,
10
inch
weed
or
you
know
what
I'm
saying
so
we
more
or
less
tabled
it.
Our
staff
person
said
they
would
talk
to
some
other
departments
and
again,
how
do
we
coordinate
this?
How
do
we
not
create
these
owners
regulations
on
citizens
but,
on
the
other
hand,
there's
a
lot
of
effort
towards
pollinator
Gardens
and
Native
grasses,
and
you
know
water
conservation,
so
you
can't
just
stop
stomp
it
out
and
tell
citizens.
C
Addressed
this
and
he
said
that
when
they
tag
someone
for
something
that
they
thought
was
too
long
weeds
and
the
person
says
this
is
intentional.
Look
at
I'm
generating
seeds,
I
like
that
plant,
I
I,
you
know
it's
intentional.
It's
an
objective
thing
and
that
code
enforcement
accepts
that
respond.
Okay,
much
of
an
issue
around
that.
Okay,
you
know
I
mean
there's
plants
like
like
I'm.
F
C
Good
and
I'm
still
sitting
here
with
what
I
told
you
guys
about
last
time,
I
got
a
notice
on
my
house
that
said:
violation
Alice
out
of
property
and
front
side
of
property
after
I
got
this
I
took
pictures
of
all
of
it.
There
was
nothing
too
long,
except
for
I.
Do
have
some
soap
work
in
a
section
of
my
rock
garden
that
I
do
let
grow
and
I
like
it,
and
it's
not.
You
know
it.
It
might
be
what
they're
talking
about,
but
it's
not
on
the
island.
C
Nothing
on
the
Alley
was
too
long,
and
this
is
like
you
know
part
of
my
questions
tonight
about
this
we're
going
to
be
around
this.
Was
this
a
case
and
because
this
is
equivalent
to
what
Ms
Dickerson
brought
up,
she
got
an
email
saying
that
the
case
was
closed.
Well,
when
I
asked
about
it,
I
was
told
it
wasn't
the
case
Okay,
so
it
there's
definitely
confusion.
C
G
C
Does
this
create
a
a
cumulative
record
for
her
for
me
that
somehow
triggers
something
else
once
you've
got
three
of
these,
especially
when
they're
potentially
in
dispute?
And
where
is
how
is
that
tracked?
What
is
that
like?
These
are
all
questions
that,
as
chair
of
the
code
enforcement
advisory
committee,
I'm
still
not
clear
on
this
many
times
as
I've
tried
to
understand
it,
because
so
I
agree.
It's
not
clear.
C
I
have
good
fit
that
with
what
code
manager
Lewis
has
said
in
regard
to
the
objectiveness
around
this
is
an
intentional
plant
versus
it's
not
at
the
at
whatever
point
in
the
process.
You
get
to
say
that
I
believe
him
saying
that
they
accept
that.
Okay,
but
you
know
we
need
the
process
better
clarified
right,
so
that
everyone's
just
their
connotation.
C
B
An
ad
on
I'm,
sorry
here,
fairly
quickly
and
I'm,
glad
to
hear
this,
because
we
can
bring
this
to
the
table.
We
can
kind
of
address
this
and
I
think
to
dovetail
into
the
code
enforcement
model,
so
we,
you
know
bring
these
two
pieces
together.
It
kind
of
helps
and
membership
is
also
on
this
condition
that
we're
kind
of
setting
gears
to
this.
B
We
can
kind
of
listen,
what's
different
perspective
and
you're
welcome
to
come
to
the
beat
absolutely
it's
the
31st
and
and
my
question:
what
31st
of
July
my
question
would
be
in
a
nutshell.
What
would
you
want
us
to
reflect
in
our
recommendations?
In
other
words,
you
know
when
you
did
all
the
homework
you.
C
And
it
really
comes
down
to
you,
you
have
to
figure
out
if
you
have
an
ash
tree
or
not,
okay,
and
if
you
do
whether
you
want
to
keep
it
or
not,
and
if
you
do,
then
you
need
to
treat
it.
So
that's
a
recommendation.
That's
pretty
much!
It
yeah
like
education.
If
it's
a
giant
ash
tree
and
and
you
don't
treat
it-
then
you're
gonna
either
have
to
figure
out
how
to
cut
it
down
yourself,
which
most
people
can't
do
or
write
thousands
to
have
it
removed
right
like
that's.
C
B
C
We
figured
out
then
right
well
and
at
the
time
the
city
didn't
have
a
City
Arborist.
Could
we
do
again
now?
Whoever
the
arborist
is
is
going
to
have
probably
the
most
valuable
input
on
this?
In
general,
we
didn't
have
an
arborist.
At
the
time
we
had
the
former
head
of
the
parks
department
was
an
arborist,
but
he
wasn't
officially
the
City
Arkansas.
He
came
in
and
spoke
to
us
a
couple
times
and
filled
Us
in,
but
all
right.
So
no
other
topics.
C
Anyone
want
to
suggest
what's
most
important
among
these
and
figure
out,
let's
try
to
figure
out
an
order,
because
these
I
don't
consider
them
in
order
because
they're
just
dunked
out.
But
what
does
anyone
feel
like
any
of
these
things
are
highest
priority
that
we
should
consider
what
matters
most
to
Citizens.
You
know.
Maybe
the
I
really
want
personally
I,
really
liked
the
idea
of
the
code
enforcement
fact
sheet
and
I.
C
C
You
know
Ali
service
I,
don't
know
what
we
can
really
do.
I
mean
I.
Think
that
kind
of
comes
down
to
you
know
I
I
feel
like
it'd,
be
nice.
If
city
council
would
you
know
incentivize
haulers
to
goodbye
to
Ali's
service
instead
of
not
support,
Ali's
service,
but
they've
been
you
know
going,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
have
much
say
or
influence
there
pick.
C
So
our
committee
looked
at
the
RFP
and
said
well,
this
doesn't
take
into
account
most
of
what
the
hundreds
of
people
who
showed
up
to
the
public
meetings
said
they
cared
about.
So
we
recommend
the
city
council
to
throw
out
the
existing
RFP.
Let
us
write
a
new
one
and
then
put
that
up
and
that's
city
council
accepted
that
they
canceled
the
original
RFP.
C
We
spent
almost
two
years
creating
a
new
RFP
and
putting
that
out,
and
it
included
all
the
things
that
everyone
had
said
they
wanted
from.
You
know,
because
there
are
a
couple
public
meetings
where
hundreds
of
people
showed
up
and
expressed
what
they
wanted
and
Alley
service
was
the
number
one
thing
specified:
hundreds
of
people
followed
by
yard
waste
included,
which
is
now
being
dominated
by
the
haulers
too,
and
so
we
created
the
RFP.
We
put
it
out.
Two
companies
responded,
neither
of
them
satisfied.
C
More
than
what
everyone
was
already
paying,
so
they
they
eliminated
alley
service,
one
of
them
eliminated
Ali's
service
and
was
more
expensive
than
everyone
was
already
paid.
The
other
one
included
all
this
service
Ed
was
more
expensive
than
everyone
was
already
paying
and
wouldn't
do
large
item
pickup,
and
so
neither
of
them
satisfied
the
requirements.
So
our
committee
unanimously
recommended
to
city
council
that
city
council
try
to
negotiate
with
the
haulers
to
get
the
points
that
matters
and
we
had
a
final
list.
You
could
look
at
the
history,
there's
a
ref.
C
What
our
letter
was
to
city
council
said
if
you
can
get
a
hauler
to
agree
to
this
this
this
and
this,
which
were
the
things
that
we
found
out
that
citizens
wanted,
then
do
it.
But
if
you
can't
get
this
this
this
and
this,
then
just
let
it
stay
the
way
it
is
and
city
council
instead
of
trying
to
negotiate
when
they
reviewed
our
recommendation,
they
voted.
C
B
A
Literally,
you
have
24
hours.
If
I
mean
we
have
Street
pickup,
because
we
don't
have
an
alley
you
have,
you
can
put
your
trash
out
24
hours
before
the
pickup
and
you
have
to
have
your
trash
can
put
away
24
hours
after
I.
Don't
remember
who
asked
for
this
but
they're
in
the
code.
It
talks
about
trash
pickup
days
are
Monday
and
Wednesday
a
lot
of
times.
The
trash
company
wasn't
coming
and
that
may
be.
That
was.
B
That
was
funny
now
I.
Remember
because
say
it
was
Bundy
and
and
they
picked
it
up
this
Monday,
but
next
Monday
they
didn't.
There
was
no
accountability,
so
then
the
following
Monday
we
had
two
weeks
worth
of
trash
and
and
we
got
nowhere
if
we
called
the
service,
they
just
gave
us
the
runaround
and
it
was
maddening
because
it's
like
doesn't
the
city
have
some
say
in
this
I
mean
that's
unacceptable.
Now
it's
we
went
through
like
three
services
in
about
three
months.
B
C
B
C
C
C
C
There
was
a
potential
problem
where
there
was
a
gap
between
like
an
incident
of
a
dangerous
dog
and
it
actually
being
adjudicated,
and
during
that
time
there
was
no
rules
around
having
it
identifiable.
Somehow
like
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
through
I
my
yeah.
That's
something
I
think
we
need
to
ask.
Could
manager
Lewis
the
current
status
of
because
I'm,
not
really
sure
yet
and
I've
been
my
what's
in
my
head,
is
that
we
were
asked
to
wait
until
they
had
a
new
draft
breast
review.
C
C
B
C
B
B
To
the
fact
sheet
that
goes
to
the
fact
sheet:
it
goes
to
to
communication
issues.
You
know,
I
mean
we've
heard
it
twice
now
it's
actually
from
from
in
about
how
you
know
the
communication,
the
the
ability
to
give
the
information
that
you
need
to
get
and
that
kind
of
thing,
I
think
that
the
fact
sheet
would
help
a
lot
to
track
that
and
then
utilizing
the
social
media
to
communicate
with
people
on
how
to
contact
code
enforcement,
so
that
things
can
be
done.
That
kind
of
goes
together.
Yeah.
D
A
C
A
lot
of
West
councilmember
Russell
is
referring
to
is
after
our
agenda
has
approved.
Last
week
we
received
an
email
from
a
citizen
with
pictures
of
weeds
in
the
alley
complaining
about
like
that
feature
in
the
alley
and
they're
not
code
enforcement's,
not
taking
care
of
it.
So
then
Russell
followed.
A
C
That
right,
so
it
sounds
like
that
was
just
because
they
like,
as
could
manager,
Lewis,
told
us
they're,
going
through
the
city
in
like
a
grid
system,
and
so
they
probably
just
hadn't
gone
to
that
section.
Yet
it
is
a
lot
of
ground
cover,
so
all
right
back
priorities
invite
media
person
to
discuss
the,
maybe
our
fact
fee
and
Communications
with
how
you
know,
topics
and,
as
you
best
utilize,
our
ability
to
communicate
and
maybe
even
hear
from
them
what
they
think
needs
to
be.
C
B
Other
just
a
quick
question,
so
we
will
be
sending
a
message
to
city
council
relating
to
our
recommendations,
as
we
discussed
tonight
right.
How
do
we
track
it
or
is
it
just
normal
Communication?
In
other
words,
three
months
from
now
you
will
report,
oh
by
the
way
city
council
took
this
action,
or
they
didn't
I
mean.
Is
that
something
we
should
bird
dog
or
is
that
something
that,
in
the
flow
of
communications,
we
would
always
know
what
city
council
did
really.
A
C
All
right
I
want
to
try
and
get
a
prioritization
of
these.
Are
there
any
suggestions
for
prioritization
any
other
thoughts
on
One
support
the
track
is
there?
Is
there
something
we
need
to
do?
It
sounds
like
that
might
be,
or
there's
nothing
yeah
how
much
we
can
do
so.
Let's
just
take
that
off
of
our
priorities.
C
B
C
That
it's
very
difficult
to
conduct
this
meeting
without
his
input,
because
he
he
knows
code
enforcement,
he's
the
guy
knows
it
all
and
usually
I'm
very
excellent,
back
and
forth
some
digging
into
the
details.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned
yeah
can
I
ask
a
question
yeah
what
is
number
five
discretion?
I.
Don't
remember
that
was
I!
Think
around
the
xiaomi,
oh
well.
It
was
around
like
code
enforcement
discretion
in
general
in
the
way
that
they
enforce
things.
C
You
know
this
goes
back
to
in
that
discussion.
Remember
Chisholm
brought
up
that
you
know,
discretion
is,
can
be
good
and
it
can
be
bad
because
when
it's
bad
it
can
be
violent
right
on
on
consistently
enforced
rules.
Where
some
people
get
you
know
something
beat
on
them
and
some
people
get
away
with
it.
C
The
Experience
could
be
that
it's
biased
law
enforcement
in
the
United
States,
so
that
I
understand
I
mean
it
makes
sense
to
put
that
on.
There
I
think
it's
more
of
a
something
that
we
should
be
aware
of
and
discuss
in
maybe
even
potentially
review
code
to
see
if
there's
anywhere
in
the
code
that
there
is
or
isn't
discretion
where
there
maybe
should
or
shouldn't
be,
and
we
could
make
recommendations
to
city
council
around
that.
It
sounds
like.
B
D
C
Right
so
emerald
ash,
borer
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
guys
info
and
we'll
wait
until
it's
brought
up
to
us
as
something
and
then
of
the
prioritized
communication
with
public
way
of
getting
our
messages
out.
What
those
messages
are
social
media,
yeah
code
enforce
the
fact
sheet
will
kill
track,
because
something
like
that
there's
anything.
We
can
really
do
on
that
right
now,
I
mean
almost
all
of
this
really
comes
to
communication.
I
mean
the
overall
import
from
across
protocols
procedures.
C
C
If
we
feel
like
something
should
be
refined
in
the
code,
then
make
recommendation
to
city
council
around
how
to
make
that
more
simple
it.
You
know
that
might
be
something
we
do
like
when
when
we
try
to
understand
this
and
it's
if
it
isn't
really
clear
or
or
if
it
you
know
like
what
I'm
seeing
you
know,
the
code
talks
about
a
seven
day
warning,
but
it's
been
thrown
out
and
the
way
that
it's
implemented
like
you
know.
Why?
C
Don't
we
get
that
all
consistent
or
recommend
a
city
council
that,
whatever
the
protocols
are
that
we're
doing?
Let's,
let's
have
it
be
something
that
a
citizen
can
read
in
code
and
understand
you
know,
or
at
least
read
the
fact
sheet
and
understand
and
have
that
tie
back
clearly
to
code
all
right,
I
think
we
beat
that
up
any
other
input
on
priorities.
B
C
A
A
That
is
for
all.
Well,
it's
all
three
now
because
excuse
me,
council,
member
wink
resigned.
She
did
on
Monday
night,
actually
sent
a
letter
of
resignation
just
before
the
meeting,
so
so
Council
found
out
at
the
meeting.
So
there
will
be
the
recall
election
for
three,
which
means
what
ever
happens.
I
mean
if
Cheryl
Lloyd's
Position
will
be
on
the
November
ballot.
Normally
she
would
be
two
years
from
now.
A
A
A
Is
still
in
the
charter
that
well
one
person,
if
there's
only
one
person
vacant
city
council
can
replace
that
position
right
now
it
doesn't
impact
the
quorum.
We
have
a
form
because
there
are
still
six
council
members,
the
only
area
where
that
becomes
problematic.
When
you
have
six
council
members,
if
the
boat
was
split,
three
and
three,
because
three
and
three
is
a
failure,
but
you
know.
B
A
Days
if
there
are
things
there
are
things
that
can
happen.
If
there's
an
emergency
I
think
that
I
asked
the
City
attorney,
they
can
get
the
appeal
to
the
district
court
and
get
permission
to
address
that,
but
since
they
know
that
this
could
happen,
I
mean,
if
no
one
is
recalled,
then
there's
no
problem
so,
but
they
know
ahead
so,
hopefully
they'll
be
able
to
plan
to
get
things
in
the
works
before
that.
A
A
B
A
And
so
it
just
I
I
have
no
idea
yeah
what
is
going
to
happen
so,
but
I
do
know.
There
was
a
recall.
They
tried
to
recall
the
District
3
Council
number
five
years
ago
and
it
failed
and
and
a
lot
of
times
recall
elections
do
fail
unless
the
council
members
have
done
something
egregious
and
the
reason
is
because
they
want
to
give
people
the
benefit
of
the
Town.
Whether
this
Council
has
done
what
the
citizens
consider
egregious
or
not.
Is
the
question
so.
B
A
B
A
C
That
I
see
on
social
media
like
one
one
good
thing
to
follow
is
the
golden
Herald,
and
if
you
follow
them,
then
you
get
notifications
when
they
put
out
articles
that
are
about
Inglewood
and
pretty
much
every
step
of
the
way.
With
this
whole
recall
thing,
there's
been
articles,
so
that
would
I
would
say
that's
one
of
the
best
ways
to
stay
on
top
of
what's
happening
with
that.
Yeah.
B
A
Not
till
January
like
well
no
used
to
the
council
was
seated
the
second,
the
second
council
meeting
in
November,
so
the
election
would
be
on
the
first
Tuesday
and
then
the
second
council
meeting,
which
will
be
the
third
week
of
November,
but
Council,
put
it
on
the
ballot
a
year
ago
to
change
that
so
to
make
sure
that
the
certification
of
the
election
occurred
before
the
council.
The
new
Council
was
seated,
so
the
new
Council
will
be
seated
on
December
12th,
which
may
create
some
problems.
That
was
that
was
16..
A
Yeah
I
mean
we've,
never
I
mean
we've
always
done
it
before
the
election
is
certified
and
so
we'll
see
I
mean
I.
Think
that
was
an
unintended
consequence,
but
it
would
have
to
go
if
we
want
to
change
it
back.
It
has
to
go
back
on
the
ballot
again
for
election.
That
is
another
thing.
There
are
Charter
changes
that
go
there.
A
We
don't
make
the
charter
changes,
but
we
voted
to
put
those
Charter
changes
on
the
ballot
for
the
next
election
there's
another,
the
second
reading
of
that
and
some
of
them
regard
how
to
conduct
a
recall
election.
Instead
of
the
way
we
do
it
now,
you
would
have
somebody
that
wanted
to
run
against
the
person
recalled
would
have
to
sign
up,
so
they
both
would
be
on
the
same
ballot.
A
It
would
probably
be
individual
like,
shall
this
person
be
recalled?
Do
you
want
this
person
I
actually
think
it
might
create
more
problems?
Yes
and
and
the
one
thing
the
City
attorney
did
say
about
that,
because
I
asked
about
that
and
she
goes,
it
may
be
that
people
do
not
want
to
run
against
a
person
being
recalled,
which
makes
total
sense,
but
if
they
got
recalled
they
may
be
willing
to
put
their
name
out
there.
C
C
So
then
we
have
member
Emma
hunts's
drop
letter
to
council
regarding
the
police,
RMS
system,
we're
reporting,
which
thank
you
very
much.
Remember
I'm,
honest
for
writing.
That
I
thought
it
was
great.
Hopefully
everyone
had
a
chance
to
read
that
any
questions
or
thoughts.
I
didn't
have
time
to
get
your.
You
said
you
had
a
spelling
correction,
I
yeah
I
sent
it
back
over.
It
was
down
because
I
the
agenda
had
already
been
approved,
but.
B
C
Does
everyone
agree
to
just
send
it,
as
is
that
I
didn't
do
it?
Okay,
then,
with
let's,
why
don't
we
someone
do
a
motion
for
that
I
moved
that
we
send
the
letter?
Is
there
a
second
restaurant?
Thank
you
all
in
favor
said
aye
aye,
aye
opposed
I.
Think
I
was
unanimous
yeah.
So
then
our
procedure
previously
with
our
old
liaison,
would
be
on
a
letter
like
this.
C
B
C
C
Because
when
I
could
call
a
membership's
home-
and
we
could
talk
all
day
about
all
this
stuff
but
as
soon
as
we
include
remember
emelons,
that's
a
violator
on
a
book
and
I've
sent
it
to
the
whole
group
yeah,
so
you're
not
allowed
to
send
an
email
to
all
of
us
with
you
know,
unless
it
was
like
decided.
Please
send
this
chart
to
all
of
us
right,
but
we're
not
allowed
to
like
send
a
message
to
all
of
us
with
opinions
and
thoughts
and
discussion.
That's
what
our
meetings
are
for.
So
we
attend
our
meetings.
C
We
all
voted
unanimously
to
make
our
meetings
in
person
now
so
that
this
is
where
we
have
our
chance
to
discuss
and
I'm
always
going
to
give
everyone
a
chance.
I
mean
as
long
as
I'm
sure
I
I
want
to
hear
everyone
I
want
to
everyone
to
participate,
but
the
way
that
we
participate
is
by
being
in
person,
and
you
know,
participating
asking
questions,
making
statements
expressing
opinions
Etc,
so
you
sent
that
email
and
then
you
weren't
here
for
that
meeting
I
did
ask
you
said
that
you
watched
it
yeah.
C
Why
you
know
my
gut
reaction
when
I
received
that
email
was
I
wanted
to
respond,
but
I
knew
that
that
would
be
a
continuation
of
a
violation
of
open-made
installs,
because
instead
I
took
your
email,
I
put
it
in
the
agenda,
I
read
it
out
and
then
I
used
it
as
an
example
of
what
we
don't
do
and
I
said
this
is
not
what
we
do.
We
have
these.
We
have
our
meetings,
our
we
discuss
these
things
all
together.
C
Now,
if
you
remember
Strom
want
to
discuss
something
and
that's
totally
fine
or
any
two
of
us
can
talk
about
any
you.
You
could
even
I
mean
there's,
there's
technically,
not
even
something
that
would
stop
us.
As
far
as
I'm
aware
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
liaison
future
or
C
Johnson,
remember
Russell,
you
know
these
things
better
than
I
do.
C
But
if
I
talk
to
member
chisel
about
something
and
then
he
talked
to
remember
Emma
Hines
about
something
and
then
it
went
back
and
then
back
to
me
I,
don't
think
that's
even
a
violation,
but
it's
when
there's
more
than
two
involved
in
the
conversation,
so
you
can't
send
emails
with
opinions
and
thoughts
and
statements.
We
can't
absentee
votes.
There's
no
such
thing
as
that.
All
right,
so
I
made
a
point
of
that.
I
read
your
email.
I
said
this
is
not
how
we
do
it.
C
Please
don't
do
this
going
forward
in
between
our
last
meeting
in
this
meeting,
remember
Hughes
sent
an
email
to
me
and
code
manager
Lewis,
stating
her
opinion
on
what
we
were
discussing
today
and
tried
to
make
an
absentee
vote
as
well,
and
she
didn't
ask
for
it
to
be
in
the
agenda.
She
didn't
state
that
it
was
public
comment.
It
was
exactly
what
you
did
except
she
didn't
send
it
to
all
of
us
and
it's
going
to
break
the
law.
C
I
the
way
our
bylaws,
if
you
read
our
bylaws
or
bylaws,
are
such
that
are
liaison
drafts.
An
agenda
sends
it
to
the
chair
and
the
chair,
edits
and
finalizes.
The
agenda
left
it
out
of
the
agenda,
even
though
they
the
liaison,
had
put
it
in
because
she
didn't
ask
for
it
to
be
public
comment
and
she
didn't.
She
didn't
even
follow.
What's
written
in
the
agenda
as
the
procedure
force
of
any
public
comment,
it
wasn't
public.
It
was
a
member
trying
to
put
their
opinions
into
the
meeting
without
being
present.
C
That's
what
it
was
and
that's
not
how
it
works.
Put
your
opinions
in
you're,
an
appointed
member
of
the
committee,
show
up
to
the
meeting.
You
know:
that's
how
it
works.
I've
scheduled
my
life
around
these
meetings
for
20
years,
I
think
in
20
years
I
might
have
missed
two
of
all
the
boards
and
committees
I've
been
on.
You
know:
I
lead
a
busy
life.
I
run
companies
I'm,
you
know,
I
do
a
lot
of
stuff
and
somehow
I
managed
to
prioritize
my
Inglewood
volunteerism,
and
you
can
do
that
or
you
cannot.
C
C
My
final
agenda
does
not
include
that
and
they
put
it
back
in
basically
accusing
me
of
censorship,
which
is
the
opposite
of
everything,
I
believe
in
and
and
then
I
wrote
out
a
pretty
strong
explanation,
which
is
basically
what
I
just
said
to
the
City
attorney
and
that's
why
I
shut
it
down
when
it
when
it
was
tried
to
be
forced
into
the
agenda
our
bylaws
state
that
the
chair
finalizes
the
edits
of
the
agenda.
My
final
edit
of
the
agenda
is
not
what's
here.
C
C
So
if
she
had
wanted
to
submit
it
as
public
comment,
then
she
could
have
seen
the
agenda
and
and
written
it
sent
it
to
futro,
and
then
it
would
have
been
public
calling
so
I'm
forcing
the
procedure
to
be
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be
and
I'm
fighting
any
violations
of
open
meeting
laws,
especially
when
they
happen
right
after
I
went
over
it.
So
that's
what.
C
C
B
Know
right
now,
I
do
have
a
question,
though
yeah.
So
if
this
happens
because
I
don't
have
that
same
freedom,
because
I
worked
for
a
large
corporation,
wait,
wait
and
sometimes
I
do
get
taken
away
where
I
have
to
be
gone.
If
I
did
want
to
speak
on
a
matter
as
a
citizen,
I
could
send
something
in
as
public
comments
send.
It.
C
C
Quoted
on
yeah
I
wasn't
meaning
to
imply
to
try
to
get
around
the
open
meeting
law.
I
meant
more
like
if
I
talked
to
member
chis
home
about
like
tree
stuff,
and
then
he
happened
to
talk
to
remember
Emma
Hines,
about
like
types
of
trees
and
like
possible
things,
and
then
we
all
met
and
discussed
those
things.
I
don't
mean
like
like
trying
to
get
around
them.
I
wouldn't
suggest
that
that's
a
good
idea.
Okay,
there's
precedent
that
in
Douglas.
B
County,
that's
basically
we're
out
of
trouble.
This
whole
thing
happened
say
it
again
in
Douglas
County
regarding
the
school
board
and
the
firing
of
the
superintendent.
It
was
done
outside
of
it
exactly
in
that
process,
it
was
Daisy
chained
among
the
members
who
were
planning
on
voting
so
that
it
basically
walked
into
that
meeting
without
public
discussion
and
became
an
action
and
that
and
there's
the
lawsuit
pending
right
now.
By
about.
B
C
Be
doing
now,
we
want
us
to
all
be
open
to
the
public.
Your
Public's
welcome
to
be
here
and
communicate
as
well.
All
right,
I
just
lost
the
last
page
of
the
agenda
there.
It
is
topics
for
future
meetings.
So
are
we
planned
to
have
election
for
officers
for
our
meeting
next
time
and
then
I
guess
there's
going
to
be
oath
of
office
for
appointments,
whoever
hasn't
already
done
that
and
then
let's
plan,
so
our
next
meeting
would
fall
on
August
16th
at
6
p.m.
C
C
B
Oh
go
ahead:
can
we
have
a
discussion
or
open
a
discussion
at
the
next
meeting
regarding
the
venue
of
these
meetings?
It
was
brought
up
last
time
that
this
perhaps
was
not
the
best
venue
for
citizens
to
feel
comfortable
coming
to
to
express
their
concerns
regarding
the
police
department.
Essentially,
you
know,
rather
than
directing
that
I
would
just
like
it
to
be
an
open
discussion
that
we
perhaps
could
begin
with
and
and
since
we
are
now
doing
more
communicating
among
each
other
just
to
happen,
can
we
put
them
please.
C
It
is
on
futro.
Thank
you.
I
have
actually
heard
that
myself
again
since
our
last
meeting
I've
heard
of
at
least
one
instance
where
someone
wanted
to
talk
about
this
was
afraid
to
come
here.
You
know
people
are
intimidated
by
it.
Sometimes
so
you
know
it's
a
it's
unfortunate
that
that
is
reality,
because
this
is
a
really
nice
room,
it
is,
and
we
have
video
recording
and
audio
that
works.