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tem
sierra
is
going
to
be
joining
too.
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just
sent
him
the
link
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in
now.
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great
thanks
director
d'andrea.
Will
you
be
also,
and
I
we
can
do
this
either
way?
Do
you
want
me
to
put
the
agenda
up
on
the
screen
and
and
in
that
way,.
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let
me
know
if
everyone
can
see
it.
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good,
okay
thanks
everyone
for
joining
us
here,
I'm
going
to
call
to
order
the
inglewood
transportation
advisory
committee
meeting
for
today,
thursday
april
8
2021.
B
Thank
you
we'll
move
on
first
approval
of
minutes
on
the
agenda
here
and
it's
from
our
previous
meeting
that
was
february,
11
2021..
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Time
I
see
chris
shaking
his
head.
No,
that
looks
good.
So,
okay,
very
good.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
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Thank
you,
member
o'connell,
and
any
further
discussion
on
the
minutes.
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B
Thank
you,
director,
andrea,
so
we'll
move
on
recognition
of
public
comment,
and
so
this
is
a
portion
of
the
meeting
where
we
hopefully
invite
anyone
from
the
community
to
join
us
and
provide
any
comments,
suggestions,
questions
they
they
may
have
and
director
d'andrea.
Do
you
have
any
anybody
on
the
line
or
anybody
attempting
to
get
in
or
have
you
received
any
anything
from
the
community.
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B
Okay,
great
and,
of
course,
if
they're
they're
going
to
join
it
at
any
time,
we'll
welcome
them
openly.
So
we'll
do
that
all
right!
Let's
move
on
into
the
first
kind
of
item
on
the
agenda
here
for
the
discussion
or
presentation
in
this
case.
So
it's
an
informal
presentation,
dr
cog,
2050
regional
transportation
plan
and
welcome
jacob
rigger
or
you
will
you
be
presenting
on
and
go
ahead,
and
please
tell
us
who
you're,
where
you're
from
and
and
what
you'll
be
presenting
today.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,
yes,
great,
my
name
is
jacob
rieger,
I'm
the
long-range
transportation
planning
manager
at
dr
cogg
from
denver
regional
council
governments
really
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
this
evening.
F
We
had
intended
to
originally
come,
I
think,
to
your
march
meeting,
but
we're
glad
to
be
here
tonight
and
wanted
to
give
you
a
short
presentation
on
our
soon
to
be
adopted,
what
we
call
2050
regional
transportation
plan.
So
if
I
may
mr
chair
looks
like
I
can
share
my
screen,
maybe
nope
can
someone?
Can
someone
give
me
permission
to
share
my.
F
F
Okay
well
again,
thank
you
very
much
really
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
this
to
you
this
evening.
F
This
is
a
regional
planning
effort
that
we've
been
engaged
in
the
last
almost
two
years
now,
and
so
we
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
up
to
speed
and
talk
to
you
about
what's
in
this
plan,
so
just
first
a
little
bit
of
background
I'd
be
curious.
I
can
only
see
some
of
you
in
the
screen
format.
I
have
right
now,
but
how
many
folks
have
heard
of
dr
cogg?
F
I
have
okay
cool,
so
the
first
joke
of
the
presentation
is:
we
are
not
a
doctor's
office,
denver
regional
council
governments.
We
work
in
several
areas
as
you
see
on
the
screen,
but
primarily
we
do
a
lot
of
work
with
older
adults,
regional
growth
and
development
and
then,
obviously
the
topic
of
tonight's
meeting
transportation
and
mobility.
If
you've
heard
of
dr
cogar,
even
if
you
haven't,
probably
the
thing
that
you
have
heard
of
and
hopefully
participated
in,
is
our
annual
bite
to
work
day.
F
That
is
our
perhaps
our
most
signature
event,
but
just
really
quickly.
What
is
dr
cogg?
We
are
a
membership
driven
sort
of
association
of
all
of
the
governments
in
the
metro,
denver
area
that
you
see
on
the
map
here,
both
kind
of
the
green
areas
and
the
in
the
blue
area.
So
it's
portions
of
it's
all
or
portions
of
10
counties,
58
member
governments.
Every
single
government
has
a
seat
at
our
board
table
and
seated
our
membership
table
of
dr
cogg,
and
we
work
together
on
on
these
issues.
F
So,
specifically,
tonight
one
of
the
primary
things
that
we
do
at
dr
cogg.
We
wear
several
different
hats,
we're
the
area
agency
on
aging,
we're
the
state
designated
regional
planning,
commission
and
we're
the
federally
designated
metropolitan
planning
organization,
which
is
just
a
fancy
term.
That
says
we
are
charged
federally
with
leading
the
region's
multimodal
transportation
planning
process,
and
we
do
that
in
cooperation
with
rtd
and
cdot
tall
highway
authorities,
local
governments,
like
you,
the
regional
air
quality
council
and
the
other
stakeholders
in
the
region.
F
When
we
do
that
regional
transportation
planning
process,
one
of
the
signature
things
that
we're
federally
required
to
produce,
although
we
would
do
it
anyway,
is
something
called
a
regional
transportation
plan
and
in
a
nutshell,
what
is
the
regional
transportation
plan?
It's
really
that
document
that
lays
out
that
vision
for
what
our
region's
transportation
system
is
going
to
look
like
over
the
next
20
or
in
this
case,
30
years.
So
it
really
sets
that
framework.
What
are
the
investments
that
we
want
to
fund?
F
What
are
the
programs
and
services
projects
and
things
that
we
want
to
invest
in
in
this
region?
It
really
brings
together
everything
that
everyone
is
doing
in
the
region,
so,
regardless
of
either
revenue,
source
or
expenditure.
So
even
if
it's
federal
funds
or
the
work
that
cdot
does
local
governments,
you
know
dr
cogg,
of
course,
ourselves
rtd
again.
The
toll
highway
authorities
doesn't
matter.
F
We
bring
all
of
that
together
into
this
regional
transportation
plan,
both
in
terms
of
the
revenues
that
we
think
will
get
from
all
of
those
sources,
federal
state
and
local
over
the
next
20
to
30
years
and
the
expenditures
over
the
next
20
to
30
years.
Based
on
those
revenues,
there
are
a
lot
of
federal
requirements
associated
with
that
work,
but
one
of
the
biggest
you
know
pieces
is
that
you
know
those
revenues
and
those
expenditures
kind
of
have
to
match.
F
F
So,
as
you
can
imagine
it's
a
big
regional
planning
effort.
We
update
this
plan
every
four
years,
which
is
what
we're
doing
now.
Our
adopted
plan
is
a
2040
plan
that
we
adopted
back
in
2017..
This
plan
will
be
a
2050
plan
that
we'll
adopt
and
actually
hopefully
at
our
board
meeting
this
month.
F
So
I
think
that's
enough
on
that,
and
I
guess
just
to
say
one
last
thing
is
that
you
know
this
is
a
it's
a
big
regional
plan,
so
it
doesn't
include
a
lot
of
the
smaller
kind
of
local
projects,
but
definitely
depend
on
partnerships
with
local
governments
and
all
of
our
stakeholders
to
help
implement
the
plan
over
time.
F
So
just
a
little
bit
about
the
planning
process.
As
I
said,
it's
been
almost
two
years
by
the
time
we
get
the
plan
adopted
and
have
our
federal
partners
review
and
certify
this
plan.
It
will
be
a
two-year
planning
process.
We
broke
up
that
process
into
the
four
phases
that
you
see
here,
so
you
know
definitely
started
before
covet,
thankfully,
with
a
lot
of
public
engagement
at
the
beginning
of
the
process
to
really
talk
about
visioning
education.
F
What's
working
for
people
what's
desired
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
I'm
glad
we
were
able
to
do
that
before
covid
and
then
we
got
into
looking
at
some
specific
investment
priorities
and
what
we
call
scenario
options
and
then
recently
we've
been
working
on
actually
putting
the
plan
together
and
now,
as
you
see
by
the
big
green
arrow,
we're
kind
of
at
that
point,
we
had
the
draft
plan
out
for
a
30-day
public
comment
period
again.
F
My
apologies
that
we
weren't
able
to
visit
with
you
during
those
30
days,
but
we
got
the
plan
out
there
for
the
region
to
be
able
to
engage
with
it
and
provide
comments,
and
we
received
almost
300
comments
on.
You
know
submitted
comments
on
the
draft
plan,
as
well
as
all
the
presentations
and
public
meetings
and
online
things
that
we
did
to
try
and
engage
the
public.
So
we
were
really
pleased
with
that.
F
So
kind
of
you
know
what
we've
heard
overall,
it's
it's
really
hard
to.
You
know
in
a
two-year
planning
process
to
really
sort
of
summarize
what
we
hear
from
people,
because
we
want
to
do
justice
to
the
depth
and
breadth
of
comments
that
we've
received
over
the
past
two
years,
but
just
in
a
nutshell,
a
lot
of
support
and
a
lot
of
interest
for
investing
in
regional
transit,
sidewalks
bike
paths,
projects
that
improve
safety
in
our
region,
kind
of
some
less
interest
in
some
quarters
for
new
roadways
and
new
highway
projects.
F
Although
there
is
some
support
for
those
as
well
again,
given
that
this
is
a
30-year
plan,
certainly
also
a
lot
of
interest
in
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
our
air
quality
vehicle
miles
of
travel,
some
of
those
big
picture
things
as
well,
the
bottom
of
the
slides.
You
see
several
ways
that
we
engage
folks
over
the
past
two
years.
We
try
to
do
a
variety
of
different
techniques
to
go
where
the
people
are
and
really
hear
from
people,
particularly
people
that
haven't
been
engaged
before
and
certainly
since
the
pandemic.
F
Let's
see
so
that
was
sort
of
public
engagement,
obviously
also
working
with
our
stakeholders.
Again,
our
counties,
our
local
governments,
rtd
c-dot
tall
highway
authorities,
our
other
stakeholders.
What
did
we
hear
from
those
folks
multimodal
projects
with
regional
benefit?
F
We
used
what
are
known
as
our
county
transportation
forms
of
which
you
remember.
We
have
set
up
forms
at
the
county
level
to
include
each
county
and
all
of
the
local
governments
within
that
county,
and
we
have
used
those
throughout
the
planning
process
that
was
actually
the
main
sort
of
vehicle
we
used
to
solicit
and
identify
and
prioritize
candidate
projects
that
ended
up
being
included
in
the
plan.
F
So
one
of
the
things
we
heard
was
to
kind
of
respect
those
candidate
project
rankings
from
the
forums
that
did
that
for
us,
obviously,
a
big
regional
plan
30
years
over
10
counties,
as
you
saw
from
the
map.
So
you
know
big
region,
long
time
frame,
geographic
balance
and
social
equity
were
very
important
and
again
that
theme
of
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
F
So
what's
included
in
the
plan,
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
that
I'm
not
going
to
rattle
off
bullet
points
to
you.
We
worked
really
hard
to
make
this
plan
the
most
visually
engaging
and
the
most
sort
of
you
know
easy
to
read,
plan
that
we
possibly
could
there's
a
lot
that
we
need
and
want
to
include
in
this
plan.
F
It
ends
up
being
kind
of
big
and
unwieldy,
a
lot
of
federal
requirements,
state
requirements,
as
I
mentioned
before,
but
we
wanted
to
focus
on
a
plan
that
people
could
sort
of
pick
up
and
engage
with
at
their
level
of
interest.
So
we
have
a
plan
document.
That's
about
180
pages
in
the
main
document,
pretty
breezy
read
easy
to
easy
to
work
through
and
then
there
are
19
appendices
that
have
more
technical
detail
on
specific
topics.
So
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
these
to
you.
F
So
just
some
quick
highlights
of
what's
in
this
plan,
you
know
throughout
our
planning
process
over
the
last
two
years,
whether
it
was
the
public
or
various
stakeholders.
There
were
certain
themes
that
really
rose
to
the
top
and
we
actually
structured
the
plan
around
these
six
six
themes
that
you
see
on
the
slide
here
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
each
of
these
really
really
briefly
in
terms
of
highlights
of
what's
in
the
plan.
But
what
ended
up
being
you
know?
F
Really
regional
priorities
in
the
planning
process
was
multi-modal
mobility,
freight
active
transportation,
meaning
excuse
me
walking
and
bicycling
safety,
in
particular
air
quality,
of
course,
in
regional
transit.
F
Say
a
couple
words
about
funding
in
the
plan.
Remember
I
said
at
the
beginning
that
it
brings
together
all
the
revenues,
regardless
of
source,
whether
it's
federal
state,
local
or
otherwise
brings
all
those
revenues
together
and
all
the
expenditures
together.
So
there's
a
very
detailed
financial
plan
that,
if
you're
having
trouble
sleeping
at
night
you're
welcome
to
kind
of
look
through
lots
of
charts
and
tables
in
there,
but
at
a
really
high
level.
Just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
how
this
is
put
together.
F
The
top
right
revenues
available
for
use
in
this
plan
is
being
shown
by
kind
of
who
administers
those
funds.
Some
funds
come
to
us
directly
at
dr
cog.
Some
obviously
go
to
cdot
or
rtd
or
other
entities.
So
you
can
see
that
breakdown,
the
non-regional
system
funds
are
actually
local
funds.
We
actually
do
an
estimate
of
what
local
governments
spend
and
all
the
great
work
that
you
do
to
maintain
and
operate.
F
You
know
your
transportation
system
in
your
local
streets
and
that's
actually
a
big
expenditure
and
a
big
revenue
within
the
plan
and
then
for
the
three
big,
regional
and
state
agencies
at
the
bottom.
You
can
see
the
breakdown
just
kind
of
generally
what
that
looks
like
between
both
projects,
infrastructure
that
we
want
to
fund
in
the
plan,
as
well
as
programmatic
things,
which
is
ongoing
operations
maintenance.
You
know
maintaining
the
system
that
we
have
over
the
life
of
this
plan.
F
Another
way
to
look
at
funding
is
just
kind
of
where
the
dollar
is
going
in
the
plan.
I
will
say
the
plan
is
not
a
budget
document
per
se.
We're
not
funding
specific
projects
with
specific
dollars
at
specific
times,
but
what
we
are
doing
is
really
showing
the
regional
priorities.
This
again
sets
a
framework
for
identifying
those
project
and
program
investment
priorities
and
it's
used
by
cdot
and
rtd
and
ourselves
and
others
to
then
fund
specific
projects
as
they
get
developed
over
time.
F
So
again,
the
plan
really
sets
that
template.
It's
kind
of
like
a
blueprint
for
a
house.
The
blueprint
doesn't
build
the
house,
but
it
certainly
tells
you
what
that
house
is
going
to
look
like
what
you
need
to
build
that
house
and
have
in
that
house.
So
I
won't
go
through
these
numbers
individually,
but
this
just
gives
you
a
sense
by
those
six
themes
of
kind
of
the
breakdown
of
what's
in
the
plan
and
then
just
really
quickly.
Let
me
touch
on
each
of
these
themes.
F
Most
of
these
six
themes
have
both
kind
of
project
investments,
and
you
see
a
small
portion
in
this
case
of
safety
projects
in
the
plan.
This
was
an
innovation
for
us.
This
was
the
first
time
that
we,
you
know
all
the
projects
in
plan,
of
course,
are
supposed
to
help
address
safety,
but
this
is
the
first
time
that
we
specifically
included
projects
in
the
plan
that
are
specifically
dedicated
towards
safety.
F
We
also
created
a
programmatic
sort
of
investment
as
well.
That
says,
you
know
over
time
through
the
30
years
of
this
plan,
we're
not
going
to
necessarily
identify
all
those
projects
at
once,
but
we
want
to
have
a
pot
of
dollars
if
this
is
a
priority
for
the
region,
you
know
we
want
to
have
that
set
aside
of
dollars
to
be
able
to
continue
to
identify
and
implement
safety
projects
over
time.
F
Similarly,
active
transportation.
Again,
this
is
walking
bicycling,
anything
that
we
do
without
a
motor
or
an
engine
human
power
transportation.
You
see
a
small
subset
of
the
projects
that
we're
funding
in
the
plan
for
active
transportation,
but
again
we
also
have
that
programmatic
element.
This
is
a
priority
for
the
region,
so
we're
dedicating
a
specific
pot
of
dollars
to
continue
to
identify
and
implement
fund
these
projects
over
time,
I
should
also
say
for
both
safety
and
natural
transportation
and
some
of
the
other
themes.
F
One
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
in
this
regional
plan
was
bring
together
the
great
work
that
both
dr
cogg
and
our
partners,
including
you
all,
have
been
doing
over
time.
Lots
of
local
governments
have
bike
pad
plans.
Dr
cogg
recently
adopted
a
vision,
zero
safety
plan.
Cdot
has
also
done
some
great
work,
so
part
of
that
is
bringing
forward
actually,
some
of
that
work
and
integrating
it
into
the
larger
regional
transportation
plan.
F
Air
quality
obviously
super
important.
I
think
you
all
know
the
importance
of
air
quality
in
this
region
and
our
continuing
challenge
to
meet
current
standards
for
air
quality.
F
The
philosophy
here
is
that
this
is
an
all-of-the-above
approach,
whether
it's
a
transit
project
or
a
bicycle
pedestrian
project.
Whatever
it
is,
you
know
teleworking,
particularly
in
the
pandemic.
F
Multimodal
mobility
is
just
a
little
bit
of
a
fancy
term.
That
basically
means
that
all
the
projects
in
the
plan
should
really
help
accomplish
several
bottom
lines.
For
us,
you
know,
funding
at
the
local
state,
even
national
level
has
been
limited.
So
these
projects
we
want
them
to
be
the
very
best
projects
they
can
be.
So
the
idea
is
that
even
a
roadway
project,
you
know
in
a
locally
appropriate
context.
Every
every
jurisdiction
is
different,
but
even
roadway
projects
where
it's
appropriate
will
have
things
like
bike
lanes
or
sidewalks.
F
If
there's
bus
service
that'll
have
transit
infrastructure,
you
know
a
transit
project
will
help
be
a
safety
project.
A
safety
project
will
help
with
air
quality.
That's
really
the
idea
here
behind
multimodable
building
and
there's
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
plan
kind
of
under
that
banner.
The
four
you
see
here,
just
kind
of
where
I
picked
out
sort
of
in
your
area
of
the
region,
but
there's
a
long
list
of
multimodal
mobility
projects
in
the
plan
and
then
two
more
of
these
freight
is
obviously
very
important,
particularly
during
the
pandemic.
F
Again,
dr
cogg
and
cdot
have
recently
done
multimodal
freight
plans
that
have
been
incorporated
as
part
of
the
larger
regional
transportation
plan
and
again,
like
some
of
these
other
topics,
we're
identifying
both
a
specific
set
of
projects
to
help
improve
freight
and
goods
movement,
but
also
other
projects
in
the
plan
will
help
with
that
and
we're
identifying
a
programmatic
element
in
the
plan
to
continue
to
identify
these
projects
and
implement
them
over
the
30
years
of
the
plan
and
then
finally,
last
one
here,
regional
transit,
there's
actually
a
lot
in
the
plan
about
regional
transit
kind
of
at
several
levels.
F
It
includes
everything
from
kind
of
the
day-to-day
operations
and
maintenance
of
the
service
that
rtd
provides
on
their
existing
system.
One
of
the
appendices
is
they
specialize,
what's
known
as
a
coordinated
transit
plan
which
looks
at
all
all
aspects
of
transportation,
whether
it's
local
bus
service,
human
service
transportation,
you
know
fixed
guideway,
transit,
meaning,
like
light
rail
commuter
rail
bus,
rapid
transit,
rtd's,
fast
tracks
program.
So
this
plan
really
covers
the
spectrum
of
transit
in
our
region.
F
Specifically
in
the
plan,
we
have
a
couple
sort
of
very
specific
investments.
Besides
the
overall
financial
plan,
investments
one
is
building
off
the
work
that
rtd
has
done
over
the
last
couple
years
on
their
bus,
rapid
transit
feasibility
study.
We
view
the
2050
plan
as
a
primary
implementation
tool
for
that
work,
so
we've
identified
a
network
of
about
8
to
10
bus,
rapid
transit
corridors.
Some
of
those
you
see
listed
on
this
slide
to
begin
building
that
brt
network
across
the
region
over
the
next
30
years.
F
The
idea
there
is
that
we
know
those
are
priorities
in
the
region,
so
the
plan
is
dedicating
significant
planning
and
project
development
and
financial
resources
to
help
flesh
out
the
vision
for
the
exact
type
of
transit
that
should
be
in
those
corridors
over
time.
So
there's
a
big.
You
know
pretty
significant
transit
investment
in
this
plan,
so
I
know
that
was
like
drinking
from
a
fire
hydrant,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
those
highlights
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
And
again
I
really
appreciate
the
time
and
the
opportunity.
Thank
you.
B
B
E
Thanks
yeah
well,
first,
thank
you
jacob
for
for
presenting
and
sorry
we've
missed
you
last
month.
I
appreciate
you
coming
by
and
giving
this
presentation
it's
very
informational.
There's
a
like,
like
neil
said,
there's
quite
a
bit
to
unpack
there,
and
you
know
I,
I
think,
every
single
bar
and
every
graph
across
the
board.
Here
we
probably
have
questions
on
things.
You
know
to
really
take
a
good
hard
look
at
it.
I
so
first
I'm
kind
of
curious.
E
Is
there
a
way
we
can
get
a
copy
of
this
presentation?
I
I
saw
it
wasn't
linked
in
our
agenda.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
share
that
the
maybe
the
board
might
be
or
sorry,
commission
committee
would
be
able
to
maybe
get
a
copy
of.
E
Okay,
thank
you
appreciate
that
yeah.
I
I'm
I'm
one
of
my
biggest
questions
here
is
you
know,
I
know
you
guys
have
these
big
cycles
that
you
work
through
we've
been
trying
to
be
more
involved
in
our
area,
especially
because
of
the
number
of
different
you
know,
transportation
things
that
come
through
include
all
the
various
modes
and
the
major
highways.
E
I
thought
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
money
on
there
for
285
and
santa
fe,
which
both
go
right
through
our
community,
which
is
great
to
see
that
some
of
that's
going
to
be
coming.
We've
been
talking
about
some
of
that
stuff
for
a
while
here,
what
what's
a?
What's
the
best
way
for
us
to
be
involved
in
the
process
or
to
be
able
to
provide
inputs,
and-
and
is
there
any
opportunity
for
us?
In
addition
to
some
of
the
public
comment
sessions
that
you
guys
hold.
F
Yeah,
no,
that's
a
good
question.
I
guess
in
a
nutshell,
I'd
probably
advise
you
to
email,
our
our
public
engagement
specialist,
just
to
kind
of
get
on
our
sort
of
general
list,
so
they
continue
to
get
updates
from
from
us.
So
that's
sort
of
the
easy
first
flashing
answer.
One
thing
I
should
say
so.
F
I
appreciate
your
prompting
is
that,
even
though
we're
sort
of
drawing
to
a
close
on
the
plan
development
process
again,
hopefully
my
board
will
adopt
it
this
month
in
some
ways,
that's
really
just
the
beginning
of
the
journey,
because
what
really
matters
here
isn't
just
what's
in
the
plan,
it's
how
it
gets
implemented
and
we're
dedicated
dr
cog
to
really
implementing
this
plan
in
the
most
sort
of
multimodal
appropriate
way
possible,
as
I
mentioned
during
the
presentation.
F
So
the
point
there
is
that
as
these
projects
come
forward-
and
I
think
you
all
understand
it's-
you
know-
there's
a
whole
constellation-
it's
very
confusing
about
who's
who's.
The
project
sponsor
of
a
particular
project
right.
Is
it
a
state
highway?
Is
it
a
transit
project?
Is
it
a
local
project?
But
the
point
is
that
we
want
to
work
with
all
of
those
stakeholders
to
really
focus
on
implementing
these
projects
in
a
way
that
is
consistent
with
what
we've
laid
out
in
this
plan.
F
So
that's
a
long-winded
way
of
saying
that
one
way
to
become
involved
is
you
know
not
just
now
at
the
tail
end
of
plan
development,
but
as
we
go
forward
and
implementation,
you
know,
and
working
together
on
projects
that
impact
your
community.
There
will
be
many
opportunities
for
you
all
to
get
involved
there
as
well.
E
Yeah,
that's
that's
great
to
hear,
and
we
appreciate
that
and
understand
that
in
a
couple
of
years
here,
you'll
be
starting
a
new
cycle
as
well,
so
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
that
goes.
Also,
I
just
for
the
broader
group
to
understand
sort
of
you
know.
We
saw
lots
of
big
numbers.
I
I
mentioned
some
of
the
projects
that
had
some
some
large
funding
in
our
community.
E
E
You
know
we
regularly
hear
from
maria
and
her
team
about
things
that
are
going
on
with
dr
cogg
as
well,
which
is
great,
and
we
really
appreciate
that
sort
of
communication
as
well,
but
just
for
the
broader
group,
the
things
that
you
have
in
your
budget,
things
that
you're
sponsoring
funding
various
things
going
on
are
those
already
like
what?
What
is
the
planning
stage
that
those
are
at
right
now
and
is
it
more?
E
F
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
The
short
answer
is
yes,
but
because
it's
a
30-year
plan,
there's
a
continuum
of
projects.
So,
if
you
think
you
know
there
are
some
projects
that
are
actually
well
on
their
way
to
project
development,
some
projects
even
under
construction,
but
we're
still
including
them.
You
know,
because
they're
in
the
planned
time
frame
right
other
projects
right
now
are
going
through
studying.
So,
for
example,
you
mentioned
santa
fe
in
285,
you
know
santa
fe
in
particular.
F
F
You
know
those
are
more
conceptual
and
the
idea
is
that
we're
identifying
them
as
priorities,
because
we
know
that
those
are
important
projects,
but
they,
you
know
they're
a
little
bit
later
in
line
just
in
terms
of
they
need
to
sort
of
work
on
kind
of
developing
that
concept,
doing
some
planning
work
and
then
getting
into
you
know
a
formal
project
development
process.
F
So
without
making
this
long-winded,
I
guess
the
point
is
that
it
covers
the
full
spectrum
of
the
status
of
projects
in
our
region
over
time,
and
one
of
the
reason
that
we
update
the
plan
every
four
years
is
that
we
know
things
change
right.
So
it's
it's
sort
of
our.
F
You
know
our
best
estimate
of
where
we
are
right
now,
but
we
know
that
four
years
from
now,
particularly
for
successful
getting
some
of
these
funded
working
together
to
implement
some
of
these,
and
that's
that
changes
the
context
and
we
constantly
need
to
keep
you
know,
sort
of
re-prioritizing,
updating
and
so
on,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
do
with
the
plan.
E
Great
and
and
I'll
have
one
more
question
then
I'll
relinquish
my
spot
here
for
someone
else
before
I
ask
a
few
more.
But
just
can
you
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
specifically
dr
cogg's
role
in
some
of
these
projects,
as
it
relates
to
all
of
these
various
entities
that
are
all
stakeholders
in
the
projects
that
are
going
on.
F
Yep
so
again
without
boring,
you
all
to
tears
with
planning
process
and
and
federal
and
state
requirements.
Just
in
a
nutshell,
dr
cogg
does
directly
receive
some
federal
funding.
You
know
we
don't
build
and
operate
things
directly,
we're
a
planning
agency
right,
but
again
we
coordinate
the
regional
transportation
planning
process.
As
I
said
in
my
presentation,
and
specifically,
you
know,
just
as
you
are
probably
familiar
with
your
you
know,
city
of
englewood's
capital
improvements
program.
We
have
a
version
of
that
at
the
regional
level,
known
as
the
transportation
improvement
program.
F
Cdot
has
one
as
well
known
as
the
state
transportation
improvement
program.
The
point
is
that,
just
like
you
at
the
local
level,
you
know
we
identify
these
projects
in
long-range
plan,
but
they
actually
get
implemented
through
the
tip
and
through
c
dot
step,
and
it's
actually
a
federal
requirement
that
to
implement
those
projects,
you
know
through
the
tip
instead
process,
they
need
to
be
identified
in
our
long-range
transportation
plan,
so
that
helps
link
the
long
range
in
the
short
range
together.
F
So
our
role
at
dr
cogg,
even
though
we
don't
build
things
directly,
we
do
disperse
a
lot
of
federal
funding
through
our
tip
process.
We
also
do
that
every
four
years
we're
actually
gearing
up
to
start
our
next
big,
four-year
tip
maria,
can
probably
tell
you
a
lot
more
about
you
know
kind
of
the
work
that
goes
into
we
work
with
all
of
our
local
governments
across
the
region
have
a
funding
call
for
projects.
These
are
projects
that
are
actually
going
to
be
constructed
in
the
next
four
years.
F
So
that's
a
big
way
that
we
get
involved.
There's
many
other
ways
we
get
involved
as
well,
but
in
the
big
picture
you
know
we
want
to
work
with
each
of
the
project
sponsors
each
of
our
communities
and
each
of
our
stakeholders
to
implement
these
projects,
whether
it's
something
that
we
fund
directly
or
we,
you
know,
participate
in
planning
studies
or
we
coordinate
multiple
agencies
or
whatever.
It
is
we're
kind
of
involved
in
as
many
ways
as
we
can
to
help
move
this
forward.
D
D
F
F
The
plan
does
reflect
a
lot
of
priorities,
so
we
definitely
heard
the
public
and
we
appreciate
that
again,
not
a
scientific
sample
of
the
public,
but
those
who
chose
to
you
know
to
participate
in
our
process,
which
we
really
appreciate,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
innovations
in
this
plan
that
that
I
glossed
over
just
a
little
bit
in
this
presentation
just
in
the
interest
of
time.
But
this
plan
is
the
most
multimodal
plan
long-range
plan
that
I
think
we've
ever
published
a
doctor
cog,
certainly
for
many
years.
F
F
So
we
really
are
trying
to
you
know
sort
of
reflect
that
general
public
sentiment
about
multimodalism
as
well
as,
as
I
said,
even
on
the
roadway
projects,
we're
working
on
some
other
projects
that
I
didn't
have
time
to
get
into,
but
really
briefly,
a
complete
streets
tool
kit-
and
you
probably
are
familiar
with
that
concept-
that
we
want
to
use
as
a
tool
that,
when
it
comes
tip
time
and
stip
time
to
implement
these
projects,
that
we
have
some
of
these
tools
available,
so
that
even
these
roadway
projects
can
be
implemented.
F
F
When
we
went
through
this
process-
and
we
asked
folks
to
identify
candidate
projects
for
consideration
of
inclusion
in
the
plan,
we
got
several
projects
along
the
santa
fe
corridor.
Very
specific,
like
you
know
this
intersection
or
this
section
of
santa
fe,
we
actually
generalized
the
santa
fe
corridor
in
the
plan
and
if
you
look
in
the
plan,
you'll
actually
see
like
a
funding
amount,
I
think
100
or
150
million
for
the
entire
corridor,
and
the
whole
point
of
that
was
that
we
actually
didn't
want
to
predetermine
specific
projects,
because
the
planning
process
is
underway.
F
We
want
that
to
be
a
really
good
planning
process
that
will
be
comprehensive
about
identifying
the
best
set
of
projects
we'll
amend
those
in
the
plan
later,
but
we
actually
wanted
to
honor
that
idea.
Let's
not
presuppose
an
interchange
or
presuppose
of
xyz.
Let's
do
that
planning
process
together,
figure
out
the
best
set
of
multimodal
projects.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
B
Very
good
jacob,
I
have
a
question
for
you:
can
you
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
background
information
regarding
how
dr
cog
scores
or
some
of
the
criteria-
I
guess
and
some
of
these
projects
or
some
of
the
funding
and
you
know
say
for
you've-
got
a
number
of
agencies
coming
to
dr
cog
requesting
funding
for
several
many
projects
and
how
do
you?
How
do
you
address
that
and
just
generally
and
score
that
I
mean?
B
F
Yeah,
that's
a
really
good
question
and
I'll
try
and
keep
this
brief
as
well.
So
when
we
do
the
long-range
plan
and
the
transformation
improvement
program
each
time,
we
do
one
of
those
major
updates
like
we're
doing
on
the
plan.
Now
we,
you
know
kind
of
reassess
our
scoring
methodology,
so
we
do
a
little
bit
different
every
time
when
it
comes
to
tip
time
the
translation
improvement
program.
You
know
we're
actually,
as
I
said,
we're
about
to
start
that
next
kind
of
major
tip
process.
F
Part
of
that
process
is
actually
to
revisit
our
scoring
and
to
look
at
you
know:
here's
how
we
did
it
last
time:
here's
how
we
might
do
it
this
next
time,
so
that's
to
be
determined
on
the
next
tip
for
this
plan
for
this
2050
plan.
What
we
did
is
we
did
a
little
bit
more
of
a
qualitative
approach
because
it
is
a
30-year
plan,
but
we
did
it
against
a
couple
things.
One
is
our
overall
metrovision
plan,
which
hopefully
some
of
you
have
heard
of,
and
that's
analogous
to
your
local
comprehensive
plan.
F
Our
metrovision
plan
was
unanimously
adopted
by
our
board
in
2017.
It
really
is
our
aspirational
vision
for
the
future
in
the
denver
region,
and
it
includes
a
lot
more
than
transportation
includes
growth
and
development
and
housing
and
all
those
sorts
of
things.
So
there's
there's
some
key
objectives
in
that
plan.
We
actually
use
those
objectives
again
as
a
qualitative
sort
of
scoring
to
say
when
we
got
this
candidate
project.
How
well
does
it
respond
to
or
address
these
objectives
that
we've
said
are
important
to
us
in
the
metro
vision
plan.
F
We
also
had
some
federal
requirements
around
performance
management,
because
the
feds
want
us
to
have
sort
of
a
data
driven.
You
know
performance-based
planning,
planning
process.
That
says
you
know
when
you
look
at
safety
when
you
look
at
congestion
when
you
look
at
travel
time
when
you
look
at
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
air
quality
and
there's
a
couple
others
again
looking
at
the
projects
in
terms
of
how
do
they
score
against
those
metrics,
so
it's
unscientific
again.
B
A
Yeah
just
a
couple
of
things
to
mention
here,
so
we
participate
in
that
process
and
there's
a
variety
of
of
funding
sources
that
dr
coggle
receives.
But
when
we
talk
about
the
transportation
improvement
program
or
tip
both
three
projects
that
we
were
successful
in
getting
through.
That
program
was
the
u.s
285
and
broadway
interchange,
the
oxford
pedestrian
bridge
and
then
the
u.s
285
congestion
mitigation
study.
A
So
we
went
through
the
tip
process
back
in
2019
to
get
federal
funds
for
that,
and
so
dr
cogg
was
very
instrumental
in
assisting
through
that
process,
and
so
that's
really
just.
I
wanted
to
tie
that
to
some
localized
projects
here
and
how
we
utilize
that
and
go
through
that
process,
and
then
I
would
like
to
mention
that
I
remember
lewis
also
joined
us
at
about
a
quarter
after
so
I
just
he's
been
elevated
to
a
panelist,
just
fyi,
okay,.
B
Great
okay,
very
good,
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
jacob
rigger.
Here.
B
Very
good,
thank
you
jacob.
I
I
really
have
to
say
that
you
know
this
really
emphasizes
just
how
much
of
a
force
in
the
community
dr
cogg
is,
and
so
there
there's
quite
a
bit
there
and
we
present.
We
appreciate
your
presentation
just
taking
the
time
to
kind
of
run
through
this,
and
and
certainly
we
can
also
go
back.
B
This
is
being
recorded
to
look
some
of
those
slides
and
everything,
but
if
you
wouldn't
mind
sending
over
the
presentation,
as
you
would
put
together,
we
we'd
appreciate
that
as
a
group,
because
it
was
there.
B
F
Yeah
again,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
time
and
the
opportunity.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
will
send
this
presentation,
should
I
send
it
to
maria
to
distribute.
I.
B
F
So
I
think
yeah,
okay,
so
I'll
do
that
and
then
I'll
also
include-
and
I
should
mention
just
in
terms
of
adoption-
you
know
I've
said
that,
hopefully
my
board
will
adopt
it
this
month,
so
it's
been
through
our
transportation
advisory
committee
that
was
on
monday
that
they
recommended
approval.
So
I
can
actually
share
that
sort
of
agenda
link
that
has
kind
of
the
final
revised
plan.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
kind
of
digging
further,
you
can
see
the
latest
version
of
it.
F
B
B
There
we
go,
and
so
director
d'andrea
you
pre
you.
This
is
from
you
and
thanks
again
for
updating
the
committee
on
this
on
what's
happening
with
this
issue.
It's
been
going
on
for
some
time
and
I
see
that
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
movement
here.
The
committee
has
met
obviously
and
reviewing
the
final
draft.
B
Rfp
will
make
a
number
of
recommendations
to
the
city
council,
issuance
of
the
revised
rfp
consideration
of
multi-family
dwellings
and
composting
options
among
them
so,
and
I
think
overall,
what
I'm
seeing
here
is
earliest
time
frame
in
which
that
consideration
would
occur
in
basically
seeking
input
from
bringing
this
before
the
city
council
for
consideration
would
be
fall
of
21,
and
if
a
decision
is
made
to
proceed,
inflammation
implementation
would
begin
mid-2022.
A
No
just
it's
been
quite
a
process,
I
think
getting
a
citizens
committee
involved.
A
We
really
have
dug
through
a
number
of
issues,
so
I
think
it's
been
a
very
thorough
process,
we're
sort
of
getting
to
the
end
here,
and
so
I
think
we're
at
the
point
again
as
the
memo
states
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
council
to
determine
if
we
want
to
reissue
that
rfp,
we
would
also
likely
have
it
on
the
discussion
as
whether
or
not
as
it
says
there
to
place
it
on
the
ballot
so
depending
on
which
track
we
we
pursue.
A
So
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
get
your
feedback.
You
know
like
the
multi-family
dwellings,
there's
only
44
of
those,
so
it
didn't.
We
thought.
Maybe
this
is
a
way
to
enhance
the
number
of
units
that
the
contract
would
serve,
but
it
really
ends
up
being
not
too
much
of
a
you
know,
swaying
it
one
way
or
the
other.
Actually.
There's
legislation
that
units
over
eight
or
greater
we
cannot,
as
a
municipality,
require
them
to
be
involved
in
a
garbage
program
so
or
state
statute.
B
Yeah
I
I
did
see
also
that
that
the
committee
interviewed
these
companies
agreed
to
gain
greater
insight
as
you've
mentioned
there,
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
are
part
of
those
interviews
at
all
or
whomever
from
the
the
city,
so
I
but
I
I
okay
yeah.
I
mean
I
think
with
that.
I
think
that
was
very
good
to
have
that
as
part
of
the
rfp
and
and
to
do
that,
because
that
really
gets
both
parties
at
the
table.
A
Yes,
I
think
it's
really.
I
think
they
were
very
informative.
They
we
asked
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
think
really
truly,
like
you
said,
gave
that
in
point
from
their
perspective
on,
you
know
how
best
to
structure
this
rfp
and
how
best
the
service
that
we
can
get,
while
still
being
reasonable
in
costs,
is,
of
course,
that
ultimate
balance.
E
Yeah
yeah,
so
this
is
a
question
for
maria.
Although
mayor
protep,
daniel
potentially,
might
have
some
input
on
this,
but
I
I
see
you
know
this
highlighted
piece
here.
The
city
council
evaluate
whether
to
issue
the
rfp
or
consider
if
this
should
be
on
a
ballot.
E
Originally,
I
thought
this
was
going
to
be
something
that
the
city
council
would
potentially
be
taking
action
on,
rather
than
putting
it
to
a
ballot
measure,
and
so
I
didn't
see
that
as
an
option
in
your
highlighted
space,
there
is-
and
so
maybe
this
is
why
it
could
be
from
mayor
pro
temps,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
if
they
just
the
city
doesn't
want
to
go
that
direction.
If
that's
not
on
the
table
or
just
kind
of
curious,
why
that's
not
on
there
as
well.
A
I
I
think
it's
really
up
to.
I
can
let
mayor
pertem
speak
as
well,
but
it's
still
within
council's
purview
to
decide
whether
they
want
to
put
this
on
the
ballot
and
ask
the
voters
for
their
input
or
proceed
in
this
direction
with
the
rfp.
I
think
the
intent
would
be
is
if
we
wanted
to
place
it
on
the
ballot
for
say
this
fall.
We
need
to
make
that
decision,
probably
by
the
june
july
time
frame,
so
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
the
rfps
back.
A
C
Yeah,
I
would,
I
would
agree
with
that,
so
I
really,
I
don't
think
city
councils
really
discuss
whether
or
not
we
want
to
put
this
on
the
ballot.
I
know
that
there's
been
some
questions
around
previous
attempts
to
put
it
on
the
ballot.
There
was
actually
a
council
request
by.
I
believe
it
was
a
member
quest
that
asked
for
information
on
whether
or
not
this
has
ever
been
a
valid
question
and
it
came
back
that
it
was
not
ever
or
it
hasn't
ever
gone
to
the
voters.
C
So
things
like
that,
but
we've
never
actually
directly
asked
the
question
whether
or
not
we
want
to
bring
this
bring
this
to
the
voters.
I
think
I,
I
think,
everybody's
just
waiting
to
hear
back
on
the
rfps
and
seeing
where
it
goes
from
there
but
yeah.
I
guess
it's
more
more.
C
At
some
point,
I
think
city
council
is
going
to
have
to
decide
which
way
to
go,
but
I
haven't
heard
any
any
direction
one
way
or
another
on
which
way
they'll
go.
E
All
right:
well,
thanks
for
the
clarification
there,
you
know
I've.
I've
got
on
the
record
before
saying
I
support
this
sort
of
thing,
so
I
you
know
I've
continued
to
hear
grumblings
from
people
in
the
community
about
trash,
and
I
know
that
we
have
some
accountability
issues
and
some
other
things
with
the
current
situation.
So
I
thank
you
to
maria
and
team
and
council
for
continuing
to
work
on
this
and
consider
and
regardless
of
where
it
ends
up.
B
Yeah
well
thanks
for
that
member
louis
yeah
I
mean
this
is
this
has
been
something
that's
going
on
for
quite
some
time
and
yeah,
and
I
think
the
city
is
doing
everything
that
they
can
right
now
and
going
through
this
process.
It's
just
you
know
it's
something
that
it's
just
taking
its
time
and
through
the
process
itself.
So
I
do
want
to
make
a
note
here
that
those
highlights
there
and
they're
not
part
of
the
agenda
from
the
city.
Just
just
a
comment
on
that.
B
These
are
just
my
highlights,
as
I
went
through
the
agenda
myself,
so
just
to
be
noted
there
so,
but
thank
you
director
to
andrea
for
actually
continuing
to
update
us
on
this,
even
though
this
is
something
prolonged
and
it
just
keeps
being
pushed
and
now
we're
looking
at
22.
But
I
think
I
understand
that
the
process
surrounding
this
and
and
the
time
that
it's
taking
to
accomplish
it,
but
we
appreciate
you
updating
us
on
that.
E
Yeah-
and
I
I
just
have
a
general
observation
of
a
related
topic
to
this-
you
know
over
the
last
few
years
I
think
a
number
of
trash
companies
have
stopped
doing
the
alley
pickup,
which
is
something
that
was
on
the
rfp
for
this
as
well,
and
you
know,
the
objective
was
to
reduce
the
number
of
alley
trips.
You
know
if
we
just
had
one
company
that
was
doing
it
well
in
the
last
few
years,
as
some
of
these
companies
have
pulled
out
of
doing
the
alley.
E
Pickups
no
longer
doing
it,
it
seems
as
though
the
alleys
have
been
in
better
condition.
So
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
aiming
for,
while
not
completely
solving
the
problem.
Yet
you
know
it
seems
like
some
of
those
benefits
we've
talked
about
are
even
you
know,
showing
themselves
to
be
true
benefits
by
the
reduced
number
of
trips
down
the
alleys,
whether
it
was
by
people
pulling
out
or
us
just
reducing
the
number
of
carriers.
E
So
you
know
looking
forward
to
seeing
what
some
of
those
other
benefits
might
play
out
to
be
in
the
long
term.
Should
this
get
implemented.
C
Now
we're
dj
guys,
that's
an
interesting
observation,
because
I
haven't
thought
about
it.
That
way,
but
I
know
I
haven't
received
as
many
complaints
recently,
but
I
know
originally
when
some
of
those
trash
haulers
did
pull
out
of
doing
alley
pickup.
I
I
heard
from
quite
a
few
people,
especially
in
my
district,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
this
new
rfp
look
like
looks
like,
but
having
ally
pickup
as
yeah
just
requiring.
C
E
Yeah,
I
could
could
certainly
solve
one
of
those
problems
and-
and
that's
very
near
and
dear
to
me,
because
I
don't
have
a
good
op
way
to
get
my
trash
can
out
front
so.
E
Yeah
and-
and
I
realize
the
city
is-
has
also
done
some
new
treatments
with
the
gravel
toppings
in
the
alleys
and
things
like
that
as
well,
which
are
likely
contributing
significantly
to
that
along
with
the
reduced
traffic.
But
you
know
less
trips
on
the
on
the
main
roads
by
the
big
trucks
and
stuff
we'll
keep
those
in
better
shape
longer
as
well.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
there.
C
And
remember:
dietrich,
actually,
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
just
regarding
the
topic
just
based
off
my
answer,
so
I
think
I've
been
one
of
the
council
members
that's
been
pretty.
I
wouldn't
use
the
word
frustrated,
but
I
I
wish
this
would
go
a
little
bit
quicker.
I'm
actually
pretty
impressed
with
the
citizen
committee.
That's
looking
over
the
the
rfp
and
the
options
and
the
fact
that
they
did
push
back
on
the
two
rfp
responses
that
we
did
get
back
earlier
this
year.
C
Basically,
just
they
just
felt
that
the
cost
and
the
and
basically
the
the
response
weren't
adequate
for
the
citizens
of
inglewood,
so
they
pushed
back
and
did
a
little
bit
more
due
diligence
and
met
with
these
followers,
apparently
and
trying
to
get
a
little
bit
more
feedback
on
what
is
possible
or
not.
C
So
I
I
wish
that
this
would
have
been
a
decision
that
we
would
have
made
earlier,
but
I
kind
of
do
like
the
fact
that
there's
a
lot
of
due
diligence
being
done
by
the
citizen
committee,
but
and
and
in
terms
of
my
answer
earlier-
it's
just-
I
just
can't
speak
for
the
rest
of
council.
I
don't
know
where
they
said.
I
know
based
off
of
what
they
said
when
they
did
rant
when
they
did
run
for
council
and
just
previous
comments
on
where
they
possibly
stand.
C
But
I
can't
make
that
same
guess
at
this
point
in
time.
So
I
think
I
that's
kind
of
like
why
I
provided
the
answer
that
I
did
earlier.
C
B
Okay,
very
good
thanks
for
that
mayor
pro
tem.
Any
other
questions
comments
on
this
topic.
E
B
And
this
is
actually
one
of
a
kind
of
a
surprise
to
me,
director,
andrea,
that
that
that
you
added
here,
although
I'm
glad
you
did
because
we
had
discussed
this
and
it
kind
of-
fell
off
the
radar
a
bit.
So
I'm
glad
you
just
brought
this
back
to
our
attention
and
provided
explanation
as
to
what
happened
with
this.
This
issue,
because
especially
earlier
on,
I
guess
in
as
kovit
said-
you
know
a
year
or
so
ago.
B
B
Your
comment
here
about
staff
submitted
this
concept
to
arapahoe
county
for
consideration,
but
were
denied,
cares,
act
funding,
and
so
is
that
through
the
county
itself
that
they
make
those
decisions
in
terms
of
the
allotment
of
those.
I
think
it
was
23
000
here
that
would
have
had
to
go
to
this,
and
so
they
rejected
that.
A
So
that
was
done
through
our
finance
department.
We
had
a
number
of
requests
that
were
funneled
through
arapahoe
county,
to
kind
of,
say
yes
or
no,
and
this
was
the
one
one
of
them
of
several.
We
had
staff
across
the
board
had
submitted
some
other
ideas
that
ultimately
were
not
funded
or
recommended
for
funding
just
because
they
didn't
meet
necessarily
the
spirit
or
the
intent
of
cares.
So
right.
E
E
So
I
I'm
kind
of
curious
on
this.
You
know
this
was
a
an
idea
that
seemed
pretty
the
city
and
and
the
citizens.
Just
generally,
people
were
pretty
excited
about
seeing
something
else
get
implemented,
and
I
think
in
in
many
areas
where
it
was
implemented,
they've
even
been
instituting
longer
term
programs
or
making
these
types
of
things
more
permanent
on
some
of
the
non-main
thoroughfares
where
they
were
put
in,
and
so
I'm
just
kind
of
curious.
E
You
know:
is
there
any
intent
to
look
back
at
this
in
the
future
at
any
point
in
time
or
something
or
is
this?
You
know
something
the
committee.
Could
you
know,
recommend
the
city
look
at
again
in
the
future
or
you
know
kind
of?
Where
do
we
go
from
here
on
this
and
and
then
maybe
that's
an
open
question
to
the
committee
as
well.
A
A
We
didn't
get
a
whole
lot
of
comments
back
from
residents,
so
we
did
send
out
a
postcard
to
all
the
people
along
the
the
I
think,
six
or
seven
blocks
that
we
were
looking
at
to
do
this
on
just
to
get
their
feedback,
and
there
are
some
pretty
vehement
comments
against
it.
So
it
was
really
surprising
to
me
that
people
did
not,
even
though
you
know
we
explained
you
could
still
technically
park
there,
you
could
still
technically
get
a
delivery
truck.
We
would
make
accommodations.
A
Let's
say
if
you
needed
to
get
a
moving
vehicle
in
there
or
you
know
a
moving
truck
or
whatever
the
intent
was
to
be
sort
of
temporary.
You
know
not
a
permanent
closure
that
sort
of
thing
and
people
were
still
just
and
ranging
from
comments
like
I
don't
want
more
people
on
my
street.
A
I
don't
want
people
around
my
house,
some
of
those
types
of
things,
but
again
overall,
probably
not
a
whole
lot
of
comments
and
to
your
second
question,
I
think
we
are
open
to
considering
this
in
the
future
and
I
would
probably
recommend
doing
that
on
a
more
basis
where
there
are
streets
that
would
be
welcoming
or
open
to
this.
So
instead
of
us,
maybe
picking
staff
picking
the
streets.
A
E
B
Well,
for
myself,
chris,
you
know
this
dovetails
a
bit
into
our
conversation
regarding
the
bike
boulevard.
I
think
at
was
it
sherman.
B
I
believe-
and
I
think
that
was
something
that
as
a
committee
we
we
really
did,
support
and
and
would
like
to
see,
come
to
fruition
and
just
curious
again,
and
I
think
going
back
to
director
d'andrea
what
you
had
just
mentioned
in
terms
of
feasibility
and
and
just
the
expectation
that,
hopefully,
we
can
get
a
number
of
people
on
board
or
at
least
identify
those
streets,
though
that
feel
that
it
would
be
a
positive
and
something
that
they
would
like
to
see
there.
B
So
how
we
go
about
that,
I
guess
is-
is
open
in
in
my
mind
how
we
go
there,
but
I
think
it's
still
a
great
idea
and
just
executing
that
and
just
having
the
community,
or
at
least
the
people
on
that
street
support.
It,
I
think,
is
a
is
a
very
important
task
to
take
to
take
to
to
these
to
the
pd
to
the
people
in
the
community.
C
So
yeah,
I
I
I
think
I
mean,
I
wonder
if
anybody
has
anybody
any
insights
from
places
where
this
was
put
into
place.
My
sense
is
that
there
was
sort
of
a
window
of
opportunity
for
a
change
like
this
and
that
I
think
that
we
did
a
like
a
prudent
job
of
seeing
if
it
would
be
acceptable
or
not
in
the
community,
but
that
by
by
doing
that,
somewhat
slower
process
that
it,
you
know,
gave
people
enough
time
to
say.
No.
I
don't
want
that.
C
I
wonder
I
I
get
the
sense
that
denver
just
sort
of
did
it
like
overnight.
You
know
I'm
basing
that
on
totally
nothing
on
like
reading
news
articles
and
stuff,
not
any
insider
information,
but
that's
what
it
sure
seemed
like
to
me
is
that
you
know
one
day
they
didn't
have
those
signs
and
the
next
day
those
streets
were
blocked
so,
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
the
the
process
that
you're
describing
and
taking
comments
and
everything.
C
Follow-Up
and
and
to
see
how
things
worked,
but
the
window
for
it
has
passed,
and
I
I
also
I'm
really
curious
about
the
cares
act.
Funding
like
I
wonder
if
arapaho
ended
up
spending
all
of
their
money
or
not.
I
hope
that
it
went
to
lots
of
really
good
things.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
Remember
ken
addison,
yeah
and
and
it's
interesting
greg
because,
as
I
was
driving
through
or
just
in
denver
at
certain
locations,
I
think
16th
street
comes
to
mind
and
I
don't
have
the
background
on
that
either
on
how
that
they
came
to
that
decision.
B
Those
streets
16th
street
in
denver,
had
already
had
the
infrastructure
for
the
bike
lanes
there.
It's
one
street
off
of
colfax
and
it
was
kind
of
already
that
semi-corridor.
If
you
will
that,
I
think
made
it
very
accommodating
to
make
that
transition.
Okay,
we're
going
to
close
this
off
and
it'll
be
fully
for
that.
B
So
it's
again
going
back
to
looking
within
the
community
to
see
if
there's
anything
that
kind
of
can
tie
into
that
where,
where
it's
not
so
much
of
a
drastic
change
to
where
someone
the
people
there
on
that
street
might
feel
hey.
This
is
really
a
quite
a
difference
from
what
what
it
was,
and
it
could
be
something
that
hey.
This
is
just
a
kind
of
an
extension
and
to
that,
what
we're
what's
already
here
and
doing
that.
B
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
mean
you-
you
mentioned
the
sherman
street
bike
boulevard
concept
and
I
feel
like
this
could
have
given
englewood
some
more
experience
with
something
along
those
lines.
But
you
know
we
we
won't
get
that
information,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
a
very
valuable
concept
that
we
should
should
definitely
move
forward
with
that
as
a
as
a
like
experimenter
as
something
that
we
try
out
to
see
how
it
goes
there
is,
I
guess,
one
other
structural
difference.
C
As
you
mentioned
16th
street,
I
realized
that
they
they're
like
there's
the
street
and
then
there's
the
street
lawn
with
the
grass
or
with
plants
usually
and
then
there's
the
sidewalk
and
then
there's
people's
front
yards.
So
if
you
you
give
people
the
opportunity
to
be
in
the
street
rather
than
on
the
sidewalk,
then
that
actually
gets
people
away
from
someone's
house,
whereas
the
dynamic
in
inglewood
with
streets
and
sidewalks
is
that
I
think
it
would.
C
You
know,
as
some
of
those
concerns
that
you
mentioned
director
d'andrea,
that
it
would
bring
people
closer
to
houses,
so
I
can
understand
in
a
pandemic
when
your
goal
is
to
stay
away
from
other
humans,
that,
if
you
found
out
that
this
was
going
to
be
on
your
street,
that
might
be
unappealing.
E
I'm
I'm
just
kind
of
curious,
maybe
a
question
for
maria,
but
you
know
we
greg
made
a
really
good
point
earlier
when
he
said
that
you
know
there
was
a
period
of
opportunity
that
you
know
was
very
finite
in
time,
and
you
know
part
of
that.
E
An
important
part
of
that
was
that
the
funding
right
you
know
being
able
to
submit
for
and
receive
funding
to
support
something
like
this,
and
so
you
know
if
we
did
want
to
implement
some
version
of
this,
whether
it
be
you
know,
a
predecessor
to
the
the
bikeways
or
potentially
just
you
know,
a
couple
of
streets
that
are
not
three
streets.
You
know
packed
in
the
neighborhoods
where
they're
a
little
bit
further
from
the
park,
so
people
have
a
safer
place
to
play.
A
So
we
could
certainly
revisit
that.
There
sounds
like
there
may
be
additional
funds
being
coming
available
for
types
of
projects
like
this,
whether
that
would
be
successful
again
or
not,
but
we
are
beginning
the
2022
budget
cycle
as
well
believe
it
or
not,
it's
only
april
and
we're
already
talking
about
2022.
So
if
there
were
projects
that
were
of
interest
like
this,
you
know
we
could
certainly
consider
those
through
the
budget
process
and
anything
else.
You
know
like
we
talked
about
the
some.
A
We
are
moving
forward
with
the
traffic
calming
program
this
year
to
develop
that,
but
then
we
would
need
funding
to
do
those
types
of
projects,
and
this
might
fit
into
that.
You
know,
as
is
as
part
of
a
umbrella,
under
a
larger
program
of
traffic,
calming
doing
initiatives
like
this,
and
we
are
planning
to
request
funding
for
that
type
of
implementation.
Traffic
calming
in
2022.
E
This
is
a
standalone
project
might
be
a
little
bit
harder
to
fund,
but
because
it
does
tie
in
pretty
nicely
with
some
of
the
other
things
traffic
calming
or
you
know,
bike
routes
potentially
as
part
of
this
or
something
like
that,
you
know
we
we've
had
some
other
processes
with
similar
projects
in
the
city,
where
we've
had
some
things
available
and
there
have
been
some
barriers
that
I'm
not
sure
how
we
get
over
them,
but
I'm
thinking
about
like
we
had
some
money
available
for
ally
paving,
but
it
required.
E
You
know
citizens
to
take
the
initiative
and
go
and
get
half
their
block
or
more
to
to
do
that
and
pay
up.
But
something
like
this
might
not
necessarily
have
to
come
entirely.
You
know
have
some
money
out
of
the
citizens
pocket
or
something
so
I
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
question,
maybe
more
of
a
statement,
but
I
think
you
know
if
we
were
to
do
something
like
that.
E
It
would
be
good
to
think
of
ways
that
we
could
creatively
engage
the
community
such
that
you
know
they
would
want
to
participate
in
these
programs,
because
I
think
we've
done
some.
You
know
not
similar,
but
somewhat
similar
things
in
the
past
and
the
participation
rate
has
been
really
low
and
they've
been
really
good
opportunities.
So
you
know
I
fully
support
this.
I
think
it'd
be
great
if
we
could
figure
out
a
way
to
make
something
happen,
but
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
if
we
commit
the
time
to
trying
to
do
it.
B
B
You
would
hope
that
and
of
course,
it's
impossible
to
get
everybody
on
board
fully,
but
you
would
hope
that
there's
a
certain
amount
of
consensus
there
on
that
street
because
you
wouldn't
want
to
be
either
a
pedestrian
or
a
cyclist
going
through
that
street,
realizing
that
a
lot
of
people
there
are
don't
want
your
presence
there
in
the
first
place.
I
think
that's
something
to
consider
you
know
it's
not
at
all.
B
You
know
again
seeking
100
for
anything
is
not
going
to
happen.
We
understand
that
nowadays
and
certainly
just
generally,
but
but
that
is
something
to
consider,
because
you
know
as
a
community
if
we're
implementing
something
like
that,
I
I
would
just
like
to
feel
that
well,
this
decision
was
made
with
the
concurrence
of
the
people
on
this
street
and
they
find
it
to
be
something
of
value
for
the
most
part.
B
So
that's
a
thing,
but
but
just
something
that
I
think
adds
to
this
discussion
that
that
that
we're
all
talking
or
commenting
on
here
so-
but
I
appreciate
you
director,
andrea
again
for
bringing
this
back
and
putting
some
closure
to
this
because
it
was
there-
and
I
know
we
were
all
excited
about
this-
as
a
committee
group
and
unfortunately
it
kind
of
closed
out
as
greg
mentioned,
but
maybe
there'll
be
another
opportunity
here
in
the
future
and
with
that
is
there
anything
else
from
the
group
on
this
topic.
B
B
B
B
She
voiced
some
concerns
and
comments,
and
also
some
suggestions
regarding
the
bike
lanes
on
dartmouth,
as
well
as
the
roundabouts
we'll
leave
that
for
now
we'll
just
deal
with
the
bicycle
lanes.
This
was
passed
on
to
the
city
as
well
as
to
the
group
and
her
attachments
as
well.
So
the
city
has
responded
with
that.
They've
provided
a
memo
to
this
in
partnership
with,
I
believe
it's
ov
consultants
as
well
too.
So
we
appreciate
that,
but
member
o'connell,
I
don't
exceed
the
floor
to
you.
B
This
was
your
your
topic
and
I
want
you
to
add
to
that
or
anything
else
you'd
like
to
summarize.
D
Thank
you
yeah.
I
just
well.
D
I
ride
the
dartmouth
bike
lane
every
day,
so
its
shortcomings
are
clear
to
me
every
day
when
I
write
it,
and
I
know
that
when
the
2015
walk-in
wheel
came
out,
it
was
recommended
that
dartmouth
would
have
a
protected
bike
lane
and
that
the
current
configuration
was
identified
as
kind
of
a
quick
fix,
low-hanging
fruit,
almost
like
a
temporary
solution,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
remind
the
city
and
continue
to
push
for
improvements
on
dartmouth.
D
I
know
that
wasn't
that
what
we
have
now
wasn't,
hopefully
isn't
the
final
version,
but
I
just
wanted
to
continue
to
move
that
process
forward.
B
Okay,
great
yeah
I
did
have-
I
did
research,
this
just
a
bit
of
tiffany
and
and
just
to
to
speak
to
it.
But
I
went
back
and
I
think
the
date
here
I've
got
that
12
13
18.
So
in
late
december
of
2018,
the
city
did
provide
the
committee
a
these
dartmouth
plans
for
our
review
is
actually
the
14th
is
when
it
was
distributed,
but
that
at
our
etac
meeting
on
the
13th
they
did
do
present
the
these
plans
in
its
existing
condition.
B
Right
now,
acknowledging
that
you
weren't
part
of
the
committee
at
that
time,
but
just
to
speak
to
the
fact
that
the
city
was
did
not
circumvent
the
the
committee.
They
did
share
that
with
us,
and
I
do
have
the
time
is
from
one
hour
and
one
minute
to
one
hour
18.
B
B
But
if,
if
you
want
to
go
back
and
look,
look
through
our
conversation
on
that,
but
just
bringing
out
that
it's
something
that
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
as
a
committee
and
yeah
and-
and
I
agree
that
pretty
much
this-
I
view
this-
the
the
bike
lanes
on
dartmouth
as
a
two-parter
two-phase
deal
and
would
support
that
yeah.
I
hope
in
the
future.
We
can
make
those
improvements,
as
was
indicated
in
the
in
the
bike
and
wheel
plan
there
or
the
walk-in
wheel
plan
yeah.
A
Yeah
and-
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
so-
I
I
had
ov
weigh
in
on
these
comments
and
provide
the
response,
because
they
were
the
ones
who
helped
develop
the
walk
and
wheel
plan,
so
both
chris
vogelsang
and
kevin
rangel
are
on
the
call
tonight,
if
there's
specific
questions
or
if
you'd
like
to
kind
of,
have
them
walk
through
the
thought
process
of
that
two-phased
approach
of
where
we
started
with
keeping
the
on-street
parking
and
then
eventually
evolving
to
something
else.
They
are
available
to
speak
to
that.
If
you'd
like.
D
G
Yes,
I
think
this
is
chris
vogelstein,
so
I
think
that
is
a
patch
cost
to
me
right.
So
thanks
for
thanks
for
having
me-
and
I
I
recognize
some
of
your
faces
from
previous
conversations,
but
it's
nice
to
be
back
yeah
so
select
director
d'andrea
said
I
was
a
project
manager
for
the
walk-in
wheel
plan
and
I
actually
did
the
design
plans
for
the
dartmouth
facility
too.
G
So
I
have
a
pretty
good
history
and
I
think
I
think,
basically,
what
it
what
it
came
down
to
at
the
time
was
that
the
walk-in
wheel
plan
envisioned
a
sort
of
a
high
comfort
facility
along
dartmouth,
that's
kind
of
a
new
term
or
use
like
a
protective
facility.
It
was
pretty
expensive
to
implement
at
the
time,
and
there
just
weren't
funds
available
for
that.
G
But
at
the
same
time
we
identified
that
dartmouth
was
an
important
corridor
for
bicycles,
especially
commuter
bicyclists,
traveling,
to
to
the
maricar,
to
greenway
and
back
and
then
using
that
to
get
to
get
around
as
one
of
the
main
access
points.
So
we
wanted
to
do
something.
G
Did
a
parking
study
in
march
of
2016
at
you
know
we
kind
of
counted
park
cars
along
dartmouth
from
university
all
the
way
over
to
to
inca,
I
think
at
5am
or
6
a.m,
noon
and
5
p.m
and
found
that
the
volumes
were
really
low.
They
were
like
three
to
five
percent
which,
which
I
think
comes
back
to
one
of
your
other
points.
Remember
o'connell
is
you
know,
can
we
remove
parking
or
not?
G
Wouldn't
that
be
a
better
solution
at
the
time
you
know
we
have
42
feet
basically
to
work
with
between
the
the
faces
of
curbs
so
from
the
north,
curb
to
the
south
curb-
and
you
know,
with
the
funding
that
was
available
and
the
the
improvements
that
would
be
needed
to
do
the
facility
vision,
walk-in
wheel,
the
options
were
and
they're
kind
of
laid
out
in
the
memo
too.
Actually,
if
you
scroll
down
just
a
little
bit
there,
neil
the
you
know
we
looked
at,
I
think
three
configurations.
G
One
was
what
got
ended
up
being
implemented
and
I
can
describe
why
that
looks
the
way
it
does.
Another
was
another,
was
a
you
know,
bike
lanes
in
each
direction,
full
bike
lanes
and
the
other
was
protected
bike
lanes
and
the
bike
lanes
and
the
protected
bike
lanes
both
required.
You
know
curb,
you
know,
parking
removal
essentially-
and
I
know
we
say
parking,
but
really
it's
curbside
uses
and-
and
you
all
in
this
meeting,
really
hit
some
of
the
hot
buttons.
G
So
it's
trash
collection,
it's
deliveries,
drop
off
pick
up
parking,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
happen
in
that
curb
that
needed
to
be
dealt
with
and
sort
of
figured
out
and
at
the
time
the
city
and
the
city
still
doesn't.
G
I
I
believe,
have
a
policy
for
like
how
to
how
to
go
through
those
discussions,
what
how
to
define
what
those
uses
are
and
how
to
best
appropriate
that
space
and
with
the
time
available
and
the
money
available,
we
ended
up
saying:
let's
do
an
initial
implementation
that
makes
it
a
little
better
for
the
type
of
bicyclists
that
are
using
dartmouth
today
and
then,
let's
wait
and
hope
for
funding
and
really
kind
of
kind
of
get
on
that
for
a
future
better
facility,
and
I
think
that's
that
kind
of
ties
into
the
second
part
of
of
member
o'connell's
comments
about
the
roundabouts
and
that
project
funding.
G
So
that's
kind
of
the
basically
that's
the
background
and
totally
agree
that
it's
not
ideal
at
the
time
that
you
know
the
design
criteria
were
that
the
the
incidences
of
the
statistical
you
know,
incidence
of
parking
and
the
turnover
was
very
low
and
it
was
deemed
to
be.
You
know
a
better
than
than
it
was
type
of
facility
and
you
ride
it
every
day.
So
you
probably
have
some
great
input
back
to
me
on
how
that's
working
for
you.
G
But
I
love
I'd
love
to
hear
that
maybe
I'll
just
kind
of
stop
there
and
just
let
let
you
all
ask
questions
or
ask
follow
up.
D
Well,
I
kind
of
think
that
the
since
the
well,
obviously
the
trash
collection
and
deliveries
is
kind
of
a
separate
issue,
but
as
far
as
the
number
of
people
parking
there,
if
the
number
is
so
low,
then
I
think
that
kind
of
even
strengthens
the
argument
for
eliminating
the
on-street
parking
through
that
corridor.
G
Yeah,
no,
I
think
I
think
that's
right.
I
think
it.
It
kind
of
goes
both
ways
with
so
little
parking.
There
aren't
a
lot
of
dooring
opportunities
and
the
dooring
is
a
real
concern
that
we
thought
through
and,
and
that
can
be
a
very
serious
accident.
G
If
that
happens,
especially
you
know
you're
just
going
by
and
it
opens
up
and
there
have
been
some
some
serious
accidents
that
occurred.
That
way
and
that's
why
we
looked
at
the
protected
bike
lanes
too
and
at
the
time
the
city
politically
just
didn't,
have
the
momentum
or
you
know,
didn't,
wasn't
ready
to
engage
in
that
conversation
with
citizens,
and
I
feel
like
it's
more
than
it's
more
than
a
corridor
discussion.
Although
this
corridor
is
specific,
particularly
low,
I
have
a
slow
parking
numbers
right.
G
It's
more
of
a
city-wide
discussion
that
you
know
you
can
see.
I
the
earlier
discussion
we
had
about
the
shared
streets,
like
people
get
really
personal,
whether
they
use
that
parking
or
not,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
should
stay
as
parking.
G
G
So
and
I
didn't
that
framework
hadn't
been
built
yet,
and
so
maybe
it's
being
built
now
to
engage
in
a
more
fruitful
discussion
down
those
lines
in
2018.
That
wasn't
the
case.
B
Is
the
consideration
that
I
believe
in
the
near
future,
west
dartmouth
will
have
a
bike
lane
placed
there
as
well
too,
if
I
recall
correctly,
and
so
with
that
it
kind
of
could
in
begin
a
whole
conversation.
This
is
the
whole
corridor,
as
you
mentioned
there
chris
and
then
further
this
discussion
of
what
we
can
do
with
the
on-street
parking
or
not.
So
I'm
I'm
just
thinking
again
long
terms
of
thinking
well
this
this
corridor.
B
G
Yeah,
that's
that's
true,
and-
and
I
don't
know
what
I
know,
that
project
is
happening.
I've
been
talking
with
john
vogel.
About
that.
I
know
maria
is
well
aware.
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
kind
of
city-wide
discussion.
G
What
we
found
and
so
we've
dealt
with,
was
we've
engaged
in
this
process
in
other
cities,
with
having
these
conversations
about
trade-offs
and
values
right
and
about
how
the
public
right
away
how
the
space
gets
used.
It's
really
important
to
have
that
be
a
city-wide
discussion,
not
just
a
court
or
specific
discussion,
because
when
you
make
a
quarter
specific
specific,
it
becomes
a
winners
and
losers
thing
and
it
really
polarizes
people
and
it
needs
to
be
a
more
holistic
like
what
is
englewood
about.
What
are
our
policies
tying?
G
B
Yeah,
that
was
my
initial
thought
as
well
too,
when
and
and
tiffany
you,
you
brought
that
up
was
it
was
kind
of
that
double-edged
sword
of
well.
This
is
great
that
there's
not
many
people
parking
on
the
streets
here,
so
it
feels
like
if
the
city
just
was
able
to
contact
them
and
provide
some
some
input
or
request
input
from
them.
B
E
G
B
G
G
I
think
the
the
key
thing
that
she's
pointed
out
that
needs
to
be
taken
forward
is
there
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
of
careful
consideration
in
in
a
in
a
concept
design
process
about.
You
know
how
are
how
are
all
those
modes
handled?
How
are
kids
safe?
I
know
the
charles
hay
school
is,
is
right
there
at
downing
and
how
do
pedestrians
cross
safely
and
things,
and
I
don't
believe
I
I'm
kind
of
joining.
I
know
the
previous
city
traffic
engineer.
G
This
was
one
of
his
initiatives
to
try
to
get
funding
for
some
traffic
calming
and
safety
projects
along
dartmouth,
and
but
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
discussions
past
that,
but
in
general
the
design
elements
need
to
be
carefully
considered
and
the
you
know
the
as
chance
would
have
it
I'm
in
I'm
in
phoenix
arizona
this
week-
and
I
was
just
driving
yesterday
in
tempe
and
saw
a
protected
bike
laying
facility
into
a
roundabout,
and
I
was
looking
for
examples.
G
I
just
happened
to
see
that
by
chance,
and
so
it
can
be
done.
I
think
that
when
you
looked
at
the
figure,
the
only
thing
really
that's
available
as
far
as
director
d'andrea
and
I
have
talked
about-
is
that
figure
on
the
website?
That's
like
a
sort
of
a
concept
on
inglewood
city
of
inglewood's
website
that
talks
about.
Can
you
fit
it
within
the
right-of-way?
And
how
would
you
do
it?
G
Some
key
elements
are
that
to
accommodate
less
confident
cyclists
like
if
we
end
up
with
a
protected
bike
lane
facility
in
the
future,
like
the
walk-a-wheel
plan,
says
that
we
need
to
accommodate
a
a
facility
that
sort
of
skips
the
circulatory
roadway
of
the
roundabout
for
those
users
and
deal
with
the
crossings
real
carefully.
So
it
can
be
done.
There
is
guidance
to
do
that,
but
it's
not
as
simple
as
a
traffic
signal
installation
and
how
to
handle
it
there.
But
I
will.
G
I
will
temper
that
with
I
was
on
the
cdot
statewide
safety
plan
team
last
year
and
looking
at
five
years
of
crash
data
across
the
state,
and
there
were
zero
fatalities
at
roundabouts,
so
in
general,
very
safe
and
into
your
point,
member
connell,
very
safe
for
auto
to
auto
collisions.
It
needs
to
be
very
careful
designed
for
the
pedestrian
and
bike
elements
too.
So
anyway,
my
my
kind
of
two
cents
and
the
memo
was
just
really
more
to
just
have
a
discussion
than
to
like
heaven.
It
definitely
was
an
argument.
D
Yeah,
I
can
definitely
see
an
issue
where,
if
the
city
does
go
ahead
and
implement
a
protected
bike
lane,
so
then
we're
going
to
be
inviting
more
a
wider
range
of
people
on
bikes.
That
may
not
have
the
confidence,
then
they're
going
to
be
approaching
these
roundabouts
and
okay,
so
they're
not
confident
enough
to
merge
with
traffic,
and
I
don't
blame
them,
because
that
sounds
terrifying.
D
G
But
I
I
have
a
an
image
that
might
might
help
just
to
think
about
how
this
could
be
handled.
I
know
it
might
be
a
little
premature,
but
is
it
possible
you
know
for
me
to
share
my
screen
sure
can.
G
Yeah
I'll
see
when
it
comes
up,
I'm
on
my
computer
and
my
phone
so
I'll
be
able
to
see
it
when
you
see
it
great
so
so
this
is
a.
This
is
just
an
example
of
some
of
the
design
treatment
that
designers
have
used
with
bike
lanes
protected
bike
lanes
as
they
enter
roundabout
areas.
So
you
can
see
this
is
a
actually
a
multi-lane
roundabout,
which
is
bigger
than
the
ones
we're
talking
about,
and
that's
a
really
big
distinction
single
lane
entry
exits
are
much
easier
for
pedestrians
and
bicycles
to
negotiate
than
multiples.
G
So
the
the
concept
so
far
has
cigarette
entries,
and
then
this
is
one
way
where
an
experienced
cyclist
can
choose
to
you.
Would
you
would
dash
this
line
and
they
could
choose
to
merge
and
take
the
lane
or
you
can
come
up
onto
this
side,
pass
circulatory
piece
and
you
wouldn't
be
required
to
dismount.
G
You
would
be
allowed
to
ride
across
and
one
of
the
key
things
you
can
see
in
this
picture.
I
don't
know
if
everybody's
on
a
big
screen,
but
the
key
element
is
that
the
crosswalks,
the
crossings
are
actually
far
back
they're
25
to
50
feet
generally
back
from
the
circulatory
roadway
to
give
some
some
some
visibility
and
some
time
for
people
to
see
each
other
and
make
appropriate
decisions,
but
anyway,
this
is.
G
This
is
one
way
that
that
could
be
treated
when
that
and
director
d'andrea
could
give
us
an
update
on
the
status
of
that
funding
and
project.
But
as
that
design
moves
forward,
my
understanding
is
there
really
isn't
a
concept
that
anybody's
weighed
in
yet
just
an
idea
and
that
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
need
to
be
fleshed
out
at
that
at
that
level.
So
I'll
stop
sharing.
Unless
there's
a
specific
question
about
that
photo.
D
I
I
appreciate
you
for
providing
that
example.
My
only
concern
is
just
how
tight,
particularly
like
logan
and
dartmouth.
I
just
don't
know
that
there
would
be
room
without
taking
some
property
or
something
like
that.
It
would
be
a
really
tight
corner.
G
Yeah,
let's
pull
I
just
want
to.
I
thought
of
the
same
thing,
so
what
I
did
here.
Let
me
share
this
too.
I
should
have
just
shared
my
screen,
not
individual
pieces,
but
so
this
is
the
concept
I'll
wait
till
it
comes
up
on
your
screen
there.
So
this
is
the
concept.
That's
on
the
website,
and
my
understanding
is.
This
was
really
an
attempt
to
see.
G
Could
you
fit
around
about
within
the
existing
right-of-way
is
really
was
its
main
goal,
and
it
shows
some
of
the
features
that
we're
talking
about
with
the
crosswalk
setback,
the
shortened
crossing
distances,
the
median
splitter
islands
as
refuges,
and
then
it
shows
the
the
bike
lanes.
It
just
shows
this
little
concrete
piece
like
in
this
concept.
It
comes
up
and
does
this
right
and
so
right.
You
know
this
would
be
something
to
talk
through
with
the
public
works
department.
G
A
Yeah,
oh
you're,
exactly
right!
Chris
is
you
know
this
was
a
concept
drawing
so
I
think
we
would
start
here,
but
certainly
not
necessarily
say
that
this
is
absolutely
required.
I
think
the
concern
is
we
would
be
willing
to.
You
know,
consider
some
small
takes
at
the
corners,
but
not
we're
not
taking
these
four
homes,
basically
to
try
and
make
something
work
there.
Yeah.
G
Yeah
so
there
could
be,
you
know
there
could
be
some
small
improvements
like
maybe
you
know.
These
should
be
like
this
from
here
as
you
head
east
and
you
exit
and
then
you
come
across.
Maybe
this
is
a
wider
sidewalk
section
right.
Maybe
it's
a
an
eight
foot
or
ten
foot
section
instead
of
a
five
foot
section
which
would
need
to
be
to
to
come
with
that.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things,
but
you
do
make
a
good
point
that
it
will.
G
It
will
require
some
navigation
right
and
some
other
direction
travel.
And
so
those
are
things
I
think
for
this
committee
to
stay
involved
with,
as
as
these
things
move
forward,
but
the
benefits
you
know,
the
previous
traffic
engineer
did
identify
a
right
angle,
crash
pattern
that
was
addressable
at
logan
and
downing
and
that's
important
too
so
just
kind
of
it's
a
it's
a
balance
of
how
how
all
these
things
come
together
and
and
how
it
would
work.
D
A
Yeah
well
so
we
did
receive
federal
and
some
grant
funding
for
this,
and
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
finalizing
the
intergovernmental
agreement
with
cdot,
and
then
we
would
hire
a
consulting
firm
to
assist
us
with
not
only
the
design
the
elements
that
chris
was
talking
about
like
getting
really
specific
but
also
outreach
to
the
community.
So
we're
not
set
on
this.
The
project
is
called
dartmouth
traffic
calming.
So
what
those
ultimate
elements
end
up
being
is
really
going
to
be
evaluated
through
that
public
input
process.
A
This
was
a
concept
we
we
know
that
we,
as
chris
just
mentioned.
We
have
some
crash
history
at
a
couple
of
the
signalized
intersections
people
get
frustrated,
especially
you
know,
if
it's
early
morning
or
late
when
they
have
to
sit
at
a
signal
and
they
don't
get
the
and
then
there's
the
potential
for
red
light
running
so
removing
those
and
putting
something
in
place
that
will
allow
traffic
to
move,
but
maybe
more
slowly
is
a
good
concept.
We
just
don't
know
how
maybe
we
get
there
so
the
hawk
signals,
the
mid-block
crossings.
G
Great
one
other
thing
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
we
just
we
discussed
a
little
in
the
memo,
was
there
is
an
opportunity
with
the
roundabout
installations
to
do
a
maybe
a
depending
on
how
much
money
we
have
to
implement
like
to
do
a
little
broader
traffic
calming
reach
and-
and
that's
really
important.
So
probably
the
the
main
point
I
want
to
say
about
the
roundabouts
is
speed.
G
Is
the
number
one
factor
in
serious
and
fatal
accidents
and
the
slower
we
can
get
traffic
done,
especially
at
the
intersection
of
crossings,
the
better
outcomes
we're
going
to
have
so
so
that's
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
do
think
there
are
some
details
to
be
to
be
developed
with
roundabouts,
the
devil's
really
in
the
details
and
and
how
they're
actually
designed.
C
B
Group,
okay,
I
just
have
to
say
appreciate
you
bringing
this
to
our
attention.
There
remember
o'connell
and-
and
this
was
really
a
difficult,
difficult
one
I
think-
to
kind
of
sort
through
and
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
because
as
chris
alluded
to
that,
the
data
regarding
how
much
safety
is
in
the
safety
improvements
there
with
these
roundabouts
really
is
quite
substantial
in
terms
of
cars
and
from
the
data
that
I
saw
it
was,
is
somewhat
greatly
improved
for
pedestrians
as
well.
B
But
it's
difficult
to
advance
that
when
you
feel
like
well,
a
grouper
is
not
is
being
left
behind
we're
not
taking
into
consideration,
as
you
pointed
out,
so
it's
a
really
difficult
one
and
that
the
things
that
I
can
I
think
speak
to
is
that
if
there's
something,
as
we
mentioned-
we're
ahead
of
this
and
through
the
city
and
through
the
design
process
through
these
different
tools
in
a
toolbox
that
maria
you
mentioned,
we
can
make
this
a
win-win-win
for
everybody.
B
B
Okay,
anything
else
on
this
topic
pretty
good.
Thank
thank
you
chris,
as
well
too,
for
for
joining
us
here
this
evening
and
speaking
to
that
and
giving
a
voice
behind
the
comments.
If
you
will
too
and
giving
a
little
bit
more
clarity
on
that,
so
we
thank
you
for
that
for
joining
us.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
Okay:
okay,
moving
on
to
new
business
speed
versus
safety,
road
design.
This
is
something
again
that
was
brought
to
our
attention
by
member
o'connell
and
I'll
get
us
to
that.
To
that
link
there.
B
B
D
B
So
speeder
safety,
so
I
think,
just
a
general
overview.
I
think
this
was
a
another
great
insight
from
member
o'connell
here
talking
about
some
of
the
inc
incompatibilities
to
safety
and
speed,
and
I
think
just
pretty
much
looking
ahead
and
pretty
much
in
our
planning
and
design
process
to
consider
speed
versus
safety
and
again
remember
o'connell.
This
is
your
item
here
so
I'll.
Let
you
speak
to
this.
D
Oh,
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
on
the
committee
got
a
chance
to
see
that
document,
because
I
felt
like
it
was
just
really
well
put
together
and
has
a
lot
of
great
suggestions
and
ideas
for
cities
when
they're
thinking
about
their
street
design.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
had
a
chance
to
see
that.
A
D
Yeah,
I
think
part
of
smart
growth.
America
was
involved
in
the
development
of
that
and
they
have
a
lot
of
great
resources
on
their
website.
I
know
when
I
was
looking
at
for
the
hampton
broadway
interchange.
D
I
know
they're
thinking
about
making
a
like
a
free
right-hand
turn
from
southbound
broadway
onto
hampton,
and
it
kind
of
points
out
the
ways
in
which
those
can
be
really
dangerous
for
pedestrians.
So
just
I
think
it
makes
it
really
approachable
and
easy
to
understand
for
people
that
aren't
traffic.
D
E
I've
it's
this
is
kind
of
interesting
to
me
too.
You
know
they
put
a
few
markers
on
here.
You
know,
there's
the
obvious
grocery
store
and
the
bus
stop
across
the
street
and
and
it's
kind
of
neat
they.
You
know
you
got
to
really
look
at
what
the
things
are
in
the
image
to
really
get
the
full
picture
of
what's
going
on
and
what
the
recommendations
are
and
stuff
and
a
pretty
interesting
website.
Thank
you
for
sharing
this.
I
think
this
is
stuff.
E
That's
really
important,
and
you
know
I
think
some
of
this
applies
to
various
places,
all
around
ninco
wood.
You
know
the
broadway
corridor
seems
kind
of
more
like
the
high
traffic
area
down
the
middle
of
this,
but
there's
lots
of
other
places
in
englewood
that
are
similar,
and
I
think
this
gives
some
really
good
context
for
people
who
aren't
as
familiar
with
this
and
and
just
generally,
I'm
going
to
keep
this
as
a
reference
thanks.
B
So
it's
a
good
sign
and
you
know
it's
something,
some
things
I
I
guess
are
just
generational
and
I
think
that,
as
I
mentioned
just
recently,
I
think
the
city
has
really
come
on
in
terms
of
understanding
these
different
concepts
and
and
just
being
a
little
bit
more
open
to
considering
a
different
calming
traffic
calling
measures,
and
all
of
that
so
you
know.
Hopefully
we
can
continue
that
here
in
the
future.
So.
B
B
B
All
right
moving
on
here
next
agenda
item.
B
So
our
next
item
is
chairperson's
choice,
but
I've
done
this
a
few
times
and
I
think
that
for
some
reason
the
director's
choice
isn't
on
there
and
I'd
like
to
not
exclude
that.
So,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
director
d'andrea
taking
this
opportunity
right
now
for
you
for
yourself.
A
Sure,
thank
you.
So
thank
you.
Everybody,
the
just
a
couple
of
things
to
follow
up
on
from
previous
meetings.
We,
if
you
recall
we
had
that
zunai
parking
lanes
or
excuse
me
parking
and
bike
lanes
on
street
bike
lanes
public
meeting
that
was
hosted
by
the
city
of
denver
in
late
february,
and
there
was
only
about
probably
10
or
12
people
on
the
call
vice
chair
or
mayor
potem.
A
But
there
is
definite
interest
from
the
city
of
denver
to
continue
to
move
forward,
which
would
mean
that
we
would
remove
parking
kind
of
like
what
we're
talking
about
with
dartmouth
is
remove
parking
from
one
side
of
the
street
and
they're
recommending
that
that
be
removed
from
the
englewood
side,
because
if
you
know
zunai
half
of
it
is
in
or
the
west
side's
in
denver
east
sides
in
englewood,
and
so
they
would
remove
the
parking
in
order
to
stripe
those
bike
lanes.
A
So
they
are
working
towards
preliminary
design
and
we're
going
to
have
another
meeting
with
the
community
in
late
may,
which
is
not
the
date
has
not
been
set
yet,
but
I'll
make
sure
you're
aware
of
that,
and
we're
also
going
to
we're
also
talking
internally
about
how
we
make
our
citizens
more
aware
of
that.
So
I'm
not
sure
you
know
there
was
those
signs
that
you
could
put
in
yards.
There
was
some
direct
mailing,
but
if
it
came
from
denver,
I
don't
know
how.
A
If
englewood
residents,
would
you
know
really
hone
in
that
it
might
still
affect
them,
even
though
it
was
a
piece
of
mail
from
denver?
So
I
think
we're
going
to
think
about
how
do
we
reach
out
to
our
own
folks
about
that
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
they're
engaged
in
that
process
and
then
I'll?
Let
you
know
the
specific
date
of
that
next
meeting.
A
Then
we
had
a
presentation
two
months
ago
in
february
about
the
oxford
pedestrian
bridge
and
we
have
made
some
significant
progress
forward
in
terms
of
design
and
so
we're
at
that
point
where
we're
going
to
have
an
open
house
with
the
public
for
that
one
as
well,
and
that
will
be
held
two
weeks
from
the
night
on
thursday
april
22nd
and
that
will
be
a
virtual
meeting
online,
and
so
you
can
go
on
to
the
city's
website
to
find
that
data,
and
I
can
also
send
out
the
the
link
for
that
I'll
follow
up
with
once
I
get
the
the
presentation
from
mr
rieger
from
dr
cog
I'll.
A
Send
you
just
a
few
things
in
there
all
in
one
email
and
then
finally,
for
a
future
meeting
might
not
be
for
may,
but
probably
for
june,
we'll
be
giving
you
an
update
on
the
us
85
pel
study,
so
they're
getting
to
the
point
where
they
have
some
specific
recommendations,
and
so
we
just
like
to
brief
you
on
that
and
and
get
you
up
to
speed,
okay.
That
was
all
I
had
for
tonight.
Thank
you,
chair
sergeant,
all
right.
Thank
you.
Director.
B
Dandria,
that's
quite
a
list.
We
appreciate
that
seems
like
we've
got
a
lot
coming
down
to
coming
down
the
pike
so
great,
all
right
and
I'll
continue
on
with
other
members
from
the
city
here
just
to
see
if
they
have
anything
else
to
add
and
who
else
is
on
the
line
here
sergeant
mckay,
do
you
have
anything?
B
I
do
not
have
everything
to
add.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight
and
then
we
have.
We
also
have
director
lundqvist.
B
A
A
Chair
sarnoff,
I
forgot
to
mention
one
thing:
we
did
get
a
request
for
a
memorial
sign
for
the
bicyclist
that
was
killed
at
the
intersection
of
tufts
and
bannock,
so
that
should
be
going
up
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
here.
Just
fyi.
B
C
Actually
I'll
just
ask
the
question
actually
for
director
d'andrea,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
does
cdot
maintain
the
sidewalks
along
santa
fe.
A
C
B
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
pro
tem
and
okay,
moving
on
to
chairperson's
choice,
and
I
do
not
have
anything
at
this
time.
So
thank
you
again,
member
o'connell
for
bringing
these
issues
up
and
that
provided
me
an
opportunity.
I
did
some
research
and,
and
did
that,
so
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
go
to
deep
dive
on
that
in
terms
of
everything
else
I
found
there.
B
I
think
I
spoke
to
that
during
the
those
topics,
but
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up
so
we'll
just
continue
on
committee
members
choice
so
start
with.
Let's
go
with
member
can
addison.
C
Thanks
chair,
sorry,
no
nothing
for
me
tonight.
It
already
got
covered.
I
my
one
thing
that
I
was
going
to
talk
about
was
that
memorial
sign
at
panic
so
great
to
hear
that
that's
been
requested
and
is
in
progress.
Thank
you
for
that.
B
Thank
you
and
then
we'll
go
to
member
dedrick.
E
No,
no
further
comments
or
topics
for
me
tonight
we
had
a
number
of
presentations
from
outside
parties
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
their
presentations
and
the
great
conversation
tonight
and
for
sticking
around.
So
thank
you
guys.
D
No
nothing
further
tonight
I
just
I
appreciate
everybody's
time
and
input
on
on
the
issues.
I
brought
up
great.
B
And
member
lewis,
nothing
for
me
as
well.
Well,
thank
you
all
right
thanks!
There
is
one
thing
just
just
caught
my
mind
right
now,
but
yeah
just
appreciate
everybody's
input
on
this
and
doing
that
so
and
actually
I
just.
I
just
think
that
I
just
lost
it
right
now,
but
it'll
always
be
coming
back
to
me
for
the
next
meeting.
I
suppose,
but
we'll
make
it
happen.
B
B
We
did
have
a
correspondence
from
a
citizen
christine
brinker,
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
that,
but
she
really
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
city,
of
course,
some
different
funding
opportunities
with
cdot
and
again
this
sort
of
concept
that
we
can
really
go
farther
in
the
city
with
engaging
with
dr
cogg
cdot
and
so
on
and
some
of
these
grants,
so
that
was
forwarded
to
the
city
or
she
also
mentioned
that
to
the
city
and
included
them.
B
But
my
response
was
that
I
think
the
city's
again
doing
a
great
job
in
advancing
that
and
certainly
asserting
themselves,
much
more
so
at
least
the
last
several
years
than
they
have
previous
to
that.
So
that
was
my
comment
there,
but
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
a
email
from
christine
brinker
to
the
from
the
community.
So
again
thanks
everyone
for
your
time
and
we'll
catch
you
in
may,
thanks
again,
all
right.
Thank.