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A
I
guess
first,
we
should
did
it
go
through
a
quorum
as
far
as
who
has
read
the
meeting
invites
and
how
this
works.
B
Yep,
so
patrick,
if
you
just
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
we'll
do
roll
call
so
I'll
do
that.
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
meaning
to
order
okay,
a
new
roll
call.
I
have
president
tiffany
o'connell
myself,
maria
yunjia
guy
norris
chris
groth,
othenil,
syria,
sierra
craig,
madison
and
and
christopher
anybody
else.
No,
I
don't
think
so.
C
B
D
F
B
Here
we
go
here,
we
go
so
okay,
yeah
we'll
start
at
the
top
here.
So
I
we
don't
have
anybody
on
for.
Oh
excuse
me
we'll
do
approval
of
the
minutes
before
you
move
on
to
public
comment.
A
Yeah,
has
everyone
read
and
want
to
approve
the
minute,
so
I
get
here
you
hear
ye
from
somebody.
E
A
D
B
Oh
you're
right
you're
right
sorry,
so
can
addison
hi
dietrich.
G
F
A
Okay,
so
next
on
the
agenda
is
old
business
organized
garbage
and
recycling
collection
initiative,
update
maria.
B
Yep
so
just
some
background,
so
we
haven't
met
since
june
11th
or
excuse
me
june
13th,
and
so
at
the
next
study
session,
the
city
council
did
establish
a
citizens
committee.
We
had
solicited
names
earlier
this
year
from
citizens
who
wanted
to
be
on
that
committee.
It
is
you
know,
it's
not
a
standing
committee,
but
we'll
probably
meet
between
four
and
five
times,
so
we
did
have
originally
19
people
had
signed
up.
B
B
So
though,
that
group
met
for
the
first
time
on
july
14th,
I
think
we
have
a
nice
cross-section
in
terms
of
both
where
people
live
in
the
community
as
well
as
how
long
they've
lived
here
and
just
their
perspectives,
you
know
not.
Everybody
is
a
hundred
percent
gung-ho
that
this
is
the
best
idea
and
so.
A
A
B
And
we
did
get
so
we
did
have
the
rfps
go
out.
We
got
proposals
back
on
july
16th
and
we
did.
We
received
two
one
from
waste
management,
one
from
republic
services
and
those
have
been
shared
with
the
citizens
committee,
along
with
the
summary
of
the
cost
proposals,
so
we're
trying
to
schedule
that
next
meeting
with
them,
probably
for
the
last
week
in
august.
B
Right
now,
is
what
it's
looking
like,
and
so
we'll
begin
that
discussion
proposal
and
then
talk
about
too
I've
laid
out
a
schedule
for
how
we're
going
to
engage
the
community
again
once
we
have
a
better
idea
now
of
costs
of
levels
of
service.
That
sort
of
thing
so
that'll
happen
in
the
fall
and
then
we'll
take
that
back
to
council
at
some
point
for
a
formal
vote.
F
G
I
know
you
put
together
sort
of
a
list
or
a
group
of
people
volunteers
for
that
have
I'm
just
kind
of
curious.
How
has
that
worked
out?
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
some
of
the
other
times
that
you
guys
have
done
public
comment
or
input
on
things,
since
this
is
sort
of
a
big
deal.
Are
they
staying
engaged?
Is
that
are
you
feeling,
like
that's,
been
working.
B
It
has
so
we've
spent
I've
spent
some
time
individually
with
some
of
them,
and
then
our
first
meeting
was
really
background
to
kind
of
get
everybody
up
to
the
same
place.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
we've
done
to
date,
what
what
our
goals
are
and
then
kind
of
the
process
that
has
been
undertaken
so
far,
so
I
shared
with
them.
Those
survey
results
a
lot
of
the
background
material,
that's
been
created,
and
so
they,
I
feel
like
we're
on
a
good
place
in
terms
of
them.
Having
good
background.
G
B
Yeah,
you
know,
of
course,
we've
lost
some
time
here
due
to
due
to
the
virus,
but
we're
we're,
anticipating,
probably
another,
probably
three-
to
four
meetings
with
the
citizens
committee,
at
which
time
we'd
probably
be
ready
to
roll
that
out
to
the
public,
get
input
on
kind
of
these
proposals.
B
Maybe
it's
only
one
one
vendor,
maybe
it's
both
but
share
those
results
with
the
community
get
their
input
again.
Now
that
we
have
firm
prices
and
then
we
take
all
of
that
back
with
the
recommendation
from
the
citizens
committee
back
to
city
council
and
that's
probably
going
to
be
late
fall,
you
know
time
frame
probably
november
december,
and
the
intent
would
be
is
that
if
we
move
forward
it
would
roll
out,
probably
in
june
or
july
of
next
year,
give
them
a
good.
B
You
know
five
to
six
months,
to
get
their
plan
together
of
how
we
would
do
this,
because
that
transition
is
going
to
be
difficult.
That's
a
long
time
yeah,
but
we
don't
want
to
do
it
in
the
winter.
You
know
with
the
snow
or
anything,
and
we
want
to
give
people
plenty
of
time
to
if
they
have
an
existing
contract.
You
know
and
that
with
their
current
service
provider
or
just
you
know
again
the
communication
you
have
to
communicate
with
people
multiple
times
in
order
to
get
them
started
used
to
this
process.
A
Okay,
what
do
you
guys
think
tiffany.
A
B
Thank
you
we'll,
we'll,
probably
if
not
at
the
next
meeting,
probably
the
one
after
that
is
share
the
results
with
with
the
etac
as
well,
so
we'll
have
more
of
more
than
just
an
update,
but
probably
go
over
the
merits
of
the
proposals
with
etac
as
well.
Okay,.
C
A
Like
I
want
to
make
sure
that
greg,
christopher
tiffany
myself,
neil,
like
let's,
let's
make
some
let's
make
some
opinions,
stated
and
get
things
going.
A
All
right
so
moving
on.
B
So
I
know
we
had
talked
last
or
in
june
we
didn't
meet
in
july,
but
about
the
25
mile
per
hour,
speed
limit,
and
so
I
know
I
don't
think
the
group
took
a
formal
vote
on
this,
but
I
think
we're
at
that
point
we
just
wanted
to.
This
is
the
memo
that
guy
had
prepared
for
may
and
so
bring
this
back
and
if
there's
a
recommendation
from
etac
back
to
city
council,
we
did
talk
about
the
model
traffic
code
with
council
about
a
week
and
a
half
a
couple
weeks
ago.
B
D
We
did
at
the
june
meeting
I'm
just
reading
through
it
in
the
in
the
minutes.
We
did
have
a
motion
to
encourage
city
council
to
investigate
lowering
the
speeds.
We
could
be
more
more
direct
about
it.
Maybe.
F
G
G
You
know:
do
we
have
the
authority
to
do
that
or
is
it
should
it
maybe
be
reworded
slightly
since
we're
requesting
counsel
to
move
forward
with
this
change
or
if
we
have
the
authority
to
do
that?
That's
great.
We
should
talk
about
some
other
things
too,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
do
so.
I
wasn't
sure
within
the
context
of
that
memo.
If
maybe
we
need
to
change
that
the.
G
Yeah
would
it
be
if
council
decides
to
move
forward
rather
than
etac,
and
maybe
this
this
you
know
memo
would
be.
I
guess
our
recommendation
to
counsel
as
well
sort
of
like
from
etac
through
public
works,
as
this
is
written,
because
I
think
for
the
most
part,
I'm
I'm
pretty
comfortable
with
how
it
sits.
G
We
we
did
talk
about.
You
know
looking
at
the
implementation
section
here,
we
did
talk
about
all
these
things
in
the
previous
meeting
about
you
know
how
it
would
be
implemented
and
what
the
steps
are.
So
you
know
this
is
really,
I
think,
a
reflection
of
sort
of
our
discussion,
but
this
is
our
time
to
talk
about
it
and
debate
and
make
sure
that
you
know
guy
captured
what
we
talked
about
and
what
we
think
we
should
recommend,
yeah
and
and
councilman
sierra.
G
Maybe
you
know
refer
to
you
on
this
one,
how
between
the
wording
and
how
it
would
be
good
for
council
to
receive
this
communication.
H
Yeah
from
my
point
of
view,
it
would
be
good
to
hear
from
etax
just
stating
that
they
recommend
the
posted
limits.
Well,
obviously,
it's
gonna
be
this
one
and
then
obviously
the
next
agenda
item.
H
But
if
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
the
way
that
it's
worded
in
there,
if
b
tags
decides
to
move
well,
I
guess
if
etac
recommends
moving
forward,
that
recommends
moving
forward
with
the
25
mile
per
hour
change
something
along
those
lines,
but
I
think
that
would
provide
at
least
cancel
direction
that
the
transportation
advisory
committee
does
agree
with
the
with
the
change.
G
I'm
thinking
about
the
wording
there,
what
if
it
says
you
know
what,
if
we
said,
etac
recommends
counsel
to
move
forward
comma
adopting.
So
then
it's
just
not
this.
If
statement,
but
if
it
just
says
etac
recommends,
counsel,
move
forward
that
yeah
maybe
fix
that.
G
B
I'm
taking
notes
chris,
so
I
think
I
captured
that
so
yeah,
okay
and
again
it
would
be
in
the
context
of
the
overall
model
traffic
code.
So
this
would
be
become
part
of
that,
so
that
action
by
city,
council.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
based
on
our
our
last
our
last
meeting
I
do,
I
did
feel
there
was
a
there,
was
a
a
vote
from
the
city
from
this
board
to
move
a
move
to
the
next
step,
which
was
asking
dugan
to
create,
create
the
legion
of
code,
and
so
that
has
been
done
so
right
now,
the
the
language,
it's
actually
already
part
of
the
the
changes
to
the
the
in
mtc
that
the
council's
council
will
be
reviewing
our
israel.
I
I
don't
know
where
they're
at
with
that,
so
it
has
been
it.
I
do
believe
we
did
not.
You
guys
did
not
officially
endorse
final
endorsement,
but
you
endorsed
my
understand.
Was
you
endorsed
it
being
proposed
as
as
part
of
a
a
language
change
for
the
model
traffic
code,
so
that
that
has
been
done?
Dugan
has
put
it
part
of
the
the
material
for
council
to
review.
A
I
That's
up
to
you
guys
because
it
was
more.
It
was
more
of
the
endorsement
of
next
step.
It's
up
to
you
guys
to
decide
whether
you
need
to
make
a
more
official
endorsement
to
it,
because
it
was
the
endorsement.
Wasn't
more
phrase.
My
understanding
was
to
just
bring.
I
have
dugan
added
to
the
attitude
his
list
of
things
change
in
the
code.
Okay,
so
so
it's
up
to
you
whether
you
feel
that
a
stronger
endorsement
is
needed.
D
A
G
Yeah,
I
think
this
is
a
good.
I
mean
this
together
with
the
updated
code,
is
a
great
package
and
then
that
makes
it
pretty
straightforward
for
council
to
just
look
at
it
and
and
make
a
decision
pretty
easily
on
that.
You
know
it's
pretty
well
supported
throughout
the
community
as
well.
We've
heard
this
several
times
over
the
years,
so
you
know
I
I
think
this
stuff
combined.
I
think
we
just
need
to
get
it
to
council,
let's
get
them
looking
at
it.
F
B
E
B
A
And
anybody
else
second
motion
to.
A
E
B
E
A
I
Yeah,
so
we
did
have
data
pulled
as
part
of
the
accounts,
which
also
include
this
speed
data
pulled
in
in
january
right
before
the
applying
for
the
dartmouth
traffic
common
corridor,
but
they
were
done
at
franklin
and
also
during
during
us
during
a
normal
school
era
and
and
that's
about
a
quarter
mile
away
from
dartmouth
circle
improvements
so
between
the
fact
that
the
project
like
this,
like
it
says
in
the
middle
of
the
relative
size
of
the
improved
relative
small
size,
improvement,
distance
from
the
counts
and
the
ch
and
the
change
in
traffic
patterns
through
the
pandemic
right
now,
I
don't
think
there
would
be
any
engineer
validity
to
a
speech
study
I
conducted
right
now
I
couldn't
like.
I
I
could
not
verify
I
mean
whatever
results
I
got
whether
they
showed
quicker
or
faster.
I
would
have
to
assume
that
not
valid
because
of
all
these
factors.
I
I
wasn't
intended
to
have
a
before
and
after
analysis
for
our
larger
traffic
calming
projects,
but
but
for
this
smaller
thing
I
don't
think
there's
much
validity
to
any
results.
Just
because
of
all
the
different
factors.
D
Okay,
one,
I
wonder
just
sort
of
for
general
background
on
the
subject:
do
you
have
a
sense
of.
I
F
I
Like
this,
this
yeah,
this
was
this,
so
I
mean
I
mean,
there's
their
speed.
There's
the
85th
percentile
in
these
accounts
they
actually
were
pulled
for
accounts
not
for
speed
study,
but
when
I
negotiated
the
current
contract
were
under,
I
I
think
I
paid
an
extra
25
bucks
for
location
to
get
the
effort
and
basically
process
the
feed.
Now
I
upgraded
from
the
original
my
original
request
for
quotes
just.
A
I
Well,
I
I
just
did
it
for
scientists,
I
did
the
study
for
the
counts,
but
I
mean
there
is
a.
There
is
a
there
is
a
85th
and
90s
in
these
counts,
and
so
one
thing
you
can
tell
from
this
study.
I
Hit
you
know
that
that
you
know
kind
of
clear
that
area
where
there's
the
rapid
fashion
beacon
and
they
get
close
to
university.
A
I
It
looks
like
they
tend
to
speed
up
more
and
they
do
tend
to
which
is
a
good
thing.
I
mean
they
tend
to
slow
out
slow
down
as
as
it
gets
denser
going.
I
think
I
think,
maybe
I
said
it
wrong.
I
meant
I
think
it's
I
think
I
said
what
I
mean.
Peop
people
leaving
getting
closer
to
university
seem
to
go
faster
approaching.
I
I'm
sorry,
I
think
I
said
that
wrong
and
people
approaching,
like
the
denser
area
and
the
and
the
and
like
the
the
places
where
there's
school
crossing
appear
to
slow
down.
So
it
does
indicate
that
a
traffic
common
further
to
the
east
close
to
the
university
is
is
would
be
beneficial,
but.
I
Just
the
effect
of
the
of
of
this,
I
just
don't
think
the
data
would
be
valid
honestly,
I'm
if
we
like,
saw
a
significant
reduction
in
speed,
our
significant
increase,
since
we
all
I
mean
we
all
we're
all
pretty
aware
and
have
observed
that
some
people
seem
to.
I
seem
to
think
they
should
speed
up
during
coven
19.
I
It
still
would
not
invalidate
or
validate
improvement.
So
there's
not
not
too
much
purpose
to
it.
At
this
point,
okay,
like
I
said,
if
anything,
I'm
a
little
afraid
if
you're
for
it,
it
will.
Actually,
you
know
we
could
get
higher
numbers
just
because
of
coven
19
or
we
could
just
get.
B
Yes,
you
can
see
here.
This
is
kind
of
the
data
we
get
so
then
guy
basically
has
to
take
this
and
interpret
it.
So
you
can
see
here
this.
This
old
number
is
showing
that
the
largest
amount
of
traffic
is
occurring
between
seven
and
eight
and
then
again
at
five
o'clock
and
we'll
we'll
definitely
take
the
data
again
closer
to
dartmouth
place.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
it's.
It's
not
totally.
Apples
to
apples
is
all
we're
saying.
I
A
D
I
D
There
was
somebody
who
was
claiming
that
people
travel
40,
50
miles
an
hour
on
dartmouth
constantly
and
and
constantly
felt
like
a
bit
of
an
exaggeration
to
me
but
and
looking
so
that's
what
got
me
thinking
about.
This
was
yeah.
What's
the
current
data
and
is
it
before
or
after
that
crosswalk
was
installed
and
the
placemaking
was
installed.
D
Have
been
looking
at
this,
it
seems
like
there's
really
just
one
or
two
people
per
hour
traveling
at
that
speed
of
you
know,
40
miles
an
hour
or
above
it's
really
not
that
common.
So
I
I
wouldn't
call
it
constantly
or
even
regularly.
I
would
call
it
infrequently
at
best
or
at
most,
but
but
it
did
make
me
wonder
about
you
know
what
kind
of
insight
we
might
be
able
to
get
about
the
impact
of
the
different
measures
that
we're
doing.
D
Of
you
know
just
what's
going
on
in
the
world
and
what
we
like,
what
might
be
appropriate
engineering
measures
based
on
what's
going
on
in
the
world
and.
D
F
D
B
B
So
yeah,
I
think
that's
one
thing
that
guy
and
I
have
talked
about
greg
is
trying
to
do
the
counts
consistently
throughout
the
city,
so
we
have
very
random
counts.
You
know
here
and
there
like
this
one
we
just
happen
to
have
on
dartmouth
at
franklin,
probably.
F
B
Somebody
might
have
requested
it
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
instead
is
every
year
take
a
certain
number
of
accounts
so
that
we
can
start
to
track.
This
is
what
cdot
does
they
take
them
at
the
same
place
every
couple
of
years,
so
they
can
see
those
trends
occurring
so
and
then
it's
you
know
normalized,
because
it's
not
two
blocks
here
or
two
blocks
away,
but
it's
at
the
same
location
over
and
over
again.
So.
F
B
I
We've
only
done
like
about
a
about
a
dozen
of
these
that
I've
been
here,
but
this
was
that
this
one
was
I,
I
ordered
three
of
them
on
dartmouth
within
the
project
for
the
for
the
study,
and
there
is
it's
even
available
online,
I
mean
there's
a
whole
a
whole
and
I'm
trying
to
also
not
not
over
use
counts
because
there's
a
whole
like
c
dot
counts
our
roads
as
well.
So
I
don't
count
those
recount
those.
I
If
I
need
a
speed
study
I
either
then
I
would
need
need
to
run
account.
Wait.
I
I
We
just
actually
had
agency
called
dr
cogg,
which
I
don't
know
who
you
are
familiar
with,
basically
has
just
done
right
before
coven,
which
is
going
to
be
useful
for
some
of
our
other
things,
counted
all
the
intersections
on
broadway
and
hampton,
like
all
the
turning
movements
and
stuff,
which
will
be
helpful
for
a
couple
of
couple
products
and
a
couple
of
other
agencies
as
part
of
a
timing
study.
I
So
so,
like
marie
was
said,
she
tasked
we've
created
a
pro
program
to
probably
over,
like
a
three-year
period,
we're
creating
a
program
to
kind
of
get
a
and
to
continuously
rotate,
to
get
a
better
to
have
more
reliable
accounts.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
accounts
already
out
there
we're
trying.
So
my
goal
is
to
fill
in
the
gaps.
I
don't
have
enough
information.
A
B
I
Yeah,
it's
actually
less
than
we
got
a
really
good
deal
right
now,
it's
actually
less
than
two
hundred
dollars
right
now,.
B
A
All
right,
tiffany,
have
you
noticed
anyone
in
your
area
talking
about
traffic
issues
or
any
sort
of
I
don't
know
stuff
like
this
or
no.
E
A
Yeah
same
here,
I'm
just
wondering,
but
okay
does
anybody
else
have
anything
to
thanks
guy
for
the
information
this
has
been.
I
think
it's
been
helpful
so
as.
I
I
just
as
related
to
this,
as
we
are
starting
to
get
feedback
on
the
the
the
dartmouth
project
and.
J
I
That
kind
of
input
is
being
received
from
from
other
citizens,
both
via
the
survey,
but
I've
also
been
getting
calls
and
handling
a
couple
emails
about.
Oh
and,
of
course,
obviously
speed
is
it's
a
big
issue
that
comes
up
during
those
conversations.
G
Yeah
I'd,
I
just
like
to
say
one
thing:
real,
quick
yeah.
It's
really
encouraging
for
me
to
hear
that
you
guys
are
looking
at
doing
more
studies
and
more
consistency
with
the
studies.
When
I
saw
this
memo.
The
first
thing
I
thought
was:
why
are
we
even
gonna?
Do
it
in
the
middle
of
the
year?
We
should
do
it
january
next
year,
so
that
shows
the
same
time
period
in
the
year
for
a
good
com.
G
You
know
good
comparison,
and
so
you
know
for
some
of
these
higher
traffic
areas
or
the
areas
that
need
the
studies.
You
know,
knowing
that
the
price
is
not
ridiculous.
You
know
I'm
glad
to
hear
it's,
not
thousands
of
dollars
or
something,
but
for
some
of
the
important
areas
in
town.
I
encourage
you
guys
to
do
so,
maybe
even
some
seasonal
stuff.
I
don't
want
to
tell
you
to
drive
the
costs
up
really
high,
but
you
know
summer
or
school
year
and
winter.
G
There
are
definitely
some
seasonal
differences
around
here
and
if
you
can
start
compiling
some
of
that
year
over
year
stuff,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
great
down
the
road
to
see
really
what
the
impacts
were
from
some
of
these
projects
that
you're
doing
right
now.
So
thanks
for
keeping
an
eye
on
that
stuff,
we
appreciate
that.
B
B
I
And
the
biggest
factor
is
school
in
anything
when
it
comes
to
that
so
yeah,
but
like
doing
it
right
now
would
not
be
even
even
if
there
was
no
pandemic,
because
we
went
away
until
that.
The
full
season
started
again
and
that's
assuming
that
there
was
no
pandemic
school
opened
up.
E
B
B
There
was
no
formal
movement
by
e-tac
staff
continues
to
not
recommend
moving
forward
with
this,
and
I
guy
is
available
to
answer
any
questions
I
see
sergeant
mckay
is
on
the
line
as
well,
so
for
the
traffic
signals
you
know
is
that
we've
talked
about
there's
those
lead
lag
turn
arrows
that
we
think
you
know
would
lead
to
some
confusion
by
bicyclists,
so
we're
not
recommending
that
there
there
may
be
some
inconclusive
results
for
the
stop
signs
and
it
would
be
convenient
for
cyclists
and
but
at
this
time
we're
not
recommending
it,
but
you,
you
can
certainly
still
move
forward
with
it
and
there
was
interest
by
the
city
council
in
pursuing
this.
B
As
you
may
recall,
there's
a
couple
other
communities,
including
the
city
of
thornton,
who
has
adopted
this
and
I
believe,
breckenridge
and
a
couple
other
mountain
communities.
B
So
you
know,
I
think
the
results
we're
hearing
from
them
are
seems
to
be
working
unless
guy
you've
heard
something
else
please
chime
in,
but
that
would
be
our
take
at
this
point.
But
again
the
the
commission
is
totally.
You
know
it's
up
to
you
to
either
make
a
recommendation
council
one
way
or
the
other
to
endorse
this.
Whatever
you
want
to
do
and
we're
here
to
answer
questions.
A
Well,
personally,
I
I
can
see
benefits
and
ambiguity
around
it.
I
don't
know
I
I
feel,
like
the
police
officers
have
already
said
that
they're
not
going
to
really
enforce
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
people,
let's
be
honest,
if
you
want
to
roll
through
a
red
light
or
a
red,
stop
sign,
not
a
red
light.
You're
gonna.
Do
it
it's
just
the
fact
of
the
matter.
A
D
Well,
I'm
I'm
just
not
sure
that
it's
the
highest
priority
right
now
without
a
clear
path
forward
is
my
perspective.
So
I
guess
I
wonder:
was
there
some
like
a
specific
request
that
somebody
had
I
just
wanted?
I
would
want
to
give
them
time
just
to
speak
if
there
was
a
specific
request
to
put
this
back
on
the
agenda.
H
The
traffic
code
that's
coming
up
back
to
council
and
right
now
it
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
coming
back
to
us
on
the
8th
of
september,
so
obviously
I'm
a
big
proponent
of
moving
forward
with
the
safety
stop.
When
we
talked
about
it
last
on
august
3rd
sounded
like
there
were
two
other
people
that
were
ready
to
move
forward.
With
this.
There
was
obviously
there's
four
other
members
that
we're
not
sure
where
it
is.
So
you
know
from
my
experience,
just
as
a
cyclist.
H
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
and
I
can
I
could
somewhat
agree
with
remember
lewis
in
terms
of
just
if
you
know,
if
you're
gonna
roll
through
a
stop
sign,
you're
gonna,
do
it.
H
Just
we
wanna
make
it
more
bike
friendly.
Obviously,
as
a
cyclist,
my
purpose
is
to
try
to
get
away
from
vehicles,
so
you
know
they're
the
red
light
and
using
that
as
a
yield
moving
forward,
I
think,
would
be
a
big
help.
There's
going
to
be
times,
I'm
not
going
to
take
advantage
of
it
like
you
know,
since
I
do
cycle
on
broadway
and
dartmouth,
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
not
gonna
treat
that
as
a
yield
during
rush
hour.
There's
just
no
way.
H
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
make
it
across,
but
I
think
at
certain
parts
of
the
day,
especially
early
morning,
it
makes
sense
for
me
to
get
away
from
vehicles
and-
and
I
see
that
as
a
safety
priority
when
I'm
in
that
type
of
situation,
so
I
think
overall,
I
think
it
does
make
sense
for
the
city
to
move
forward,
but
obviously
we
would
want
to
hear
the
recommendation
of
etac
as
well
before
moving
forward
with
the
traffic
code
on
september,
8th.
G
So
in
some
of
our
previous
discussions,
you
know:
we've
we've
gotten
over
this
several
times
over
the
last
couple
years
and
had
some
presentations
about
it
and
and
we've
talked
about
a
lot
of
the
benefits
of
it.
Some
of
the
drawbacks.
G
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
important
in
this
memo
right
here
is
separating
stop
signs
and
traffic
signals.
I
think
that's
where
some
of
the
discrepancies
came
from
some
of
the
opinions
on
the
committee
here.
You
know
my
my
opinion
is
that
I
I'm
in
favor
of
this.
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
how
it's
implemented,
though,
what
what
is
the
intent?
G
What
exactly
are
we
trying
to
solve
and-
and
I
think
of
that,
because
of
some
of
the
other
stuff
we're
talking
about
tonight,
like
our
25
mile
per
hour,
recommendation
for
the
neighborhood
streets,
some
of
the
issues
people
had
with
the
model
code
revolved
around
it
being
a
little
bit
more
standardized.
Maybe
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
certain
communities.
G
You
know
inglewood
in
particular,
we
have
some
major
thoroughfares
with
that.
Have
you
know,
vehicles
traveling
at
high
speeds,
and
so
there
were
some
concerns
around
those
types
of
intersections
being
incorporated
into
the
general
blanket
statements
of
the
you
know,
standard
language,
that's
available
that
we've
been
looking
at,
so
I
personally
I'd
like
to
move
forward
with
something
here.
I
I
think
maybe
there's
something
we
can
talk
about
relating
the
25
mile
per
hour
zones
with
or
something
with
speed
limits
might
be
incorporated
into
this.
G
You
know
thinking
about
santa
fe
and
some
of
the
other
thoroughfares
versus
you
know
a
stoplight
on
logan
or
something
is
is
quite
a
different
situation.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we
consider
that
and
and
kind
of
keep
the
objectives
and
the
you
know,
safety
to
daniel's
point
you
know
being
able
to
get
out
of
situations
where
you
need
to
keep
moving,
or
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
a
backlist
to
stop.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
different
safety
situations
there
too.
B
So
chris,
just
to
clarify
you're
kind
of
saying,
like
maybe
not
a
one
size
fits
all,
but
like
certain
corridors,
if
this
would
be
applicable
to
or
residential
streets,
but
not
like
arterial
streets.
Something
like
that.
G
I'm
just
bringing
up
that.
I
know
there
were
the
the
standard
language
that's
available
for
us
to
adopt
is
is
somewhat
general
and
I
know
people
had
some
issues
with
certain
parts
of
it
and
that's
why
this
memo
was
sort
of
broken
into
two
parts
with
the
stops
hunts
and
the
traffic
signals,
and
so
we
have
this
memo
here
to
discuss
and
and
do
we
want
to,
you
know,
make
any
changes,
or
I
don't
see
the
proposed
language
attached
on
this
memo
either.
A
D
Yeah,
so
I
think
in
one
of
the
previous
meeting
agenda
packets
we
had
some
slides
from
bicycle
colorado
with
links
and-
and
they
are
with
that
that
mention
the
you
know.
These
are
papers
that
have
been
published
in
academic
journals,
so
they've
been
reviewed
by
a
lot
of
people
whose
academic
reputations
are
on
the
line
for
making
those
claims,
and
they
are
also
being
used
by
bicycle
colorado
in
in
support
of
their
policy
position.
A
F
G
D
I
think
part
of
what
the
colorado's,
I
think
it's
senate
bill,
144
part
of
what
that
did
was
to
try
to
standardize
the
language,
because
in
the
different
mountain
communities
the
language
was
slightly
different,
and
so
the
goal
was
to
create
one
standard
across
the
whole
state.
So
you
don't
have
a
patchwork.
I
think
you
know
we're
following
a
similar
strategy
with
going
to
25
miles
an
hour.
There's
like
one
there's
one
section
of
our
border
with
unincorporated
arapaho
or
something
like
that.
That
is
still.
D
D
G
I
Yeah,
I
mean
no,
I
I
don't
know
of
any
and,
like
I
said
as
and
also
as
we
said,
as
the
city
doesn't
support,
it
it'd
be
kind
of
hard
to
design
towards
something
that
we
have.
You
know
that
we
have
questions
about,
I
mean
as
so.
That
would
become
an
issue
as
well
as
there
is
no
design
guidelines.
The
design
guidelines
available
does
not
really
allow
for
this.
I
I
A
I
Like
it's,
that
is
one.
The
one
of
the
issues
is
why
we
don't
support.
It
is
obviously
the
the
police
department
talked
about
a
lot
of
difficulty
enforcement,
but
besides,
like
even
with
the
stop
sign
issue
versus
signal,
there's
really
no
way
to
for
me
to
follow
guidelines
and
design
towards
sports.
This.
It
would
just
have
to
be
a
change
in
the
code.
C
A
A
G
Know
I
have
a
question
on
this.
I
guess
we
don't
have.
Do
we
have
a
representative
from
the
police
department
on
today.
G
J
No
motor
scooters
fall
under
motor
vehicle
guidelines
with
the
restrictions
of
limitations
on
30
miles
an
hour
and
lower
to
travel,
and
they
would
they
would
have
to
comply
with
all
motor
vehicle
regulations
bicyclists.
I
don't
know
very
many,
if
probably
very
few
instances
that
we
would
enforce
a
rolling
stop
on
a
bicyclist
unless
there
was
a.
G
Crash,
okay
and
and
just
for
a
little
more
clarification,
I
know,
we've
got
some
sort
of
motorized
and
electric
bicycle
type
things
out
there
they're
becoming
more
popular,
and
you
know
just
does
that
30
mile
an
hour
limit
apply
to
like
electric
or
motorized
bicycles
as
well.
I
just.
H
So
guys,
do
you
guys
mind
if
I
jump
in
in
terms
of
the
wording
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
for
the
traffic
code,
electric
scooters
and
e-bikes
are
also
included
as
part
of
this
safety.
Stop
ordinance
as
well,
so
it.
I
know
you
guys,
don't
have
the
wording
in
front
of
you,
but
I
have
the
word
in
here,
but
it
is
state
straight
from
the
state
regulation
that
was
passed
or
that
the
state
adopted
back
in
18.
H
That
is,
that
is
part
of
the
the
warning.
So
there's
four
parts
to
it.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
guys
want
me
to
read
it
to
you,
but
but
I
can,
if
you
like,.
H
It
doesn't
state
it
by
engine
size,
it
just
says
a
person
riding
a
bicycle:
electric,
assisted
bicycle
or
electric
scooter
and
approaching
an
intersection
of
a
roadway
with
a
stop
sign,
and
then
it
says
it
for
each
three
parts
so
that
one's
specifically
around
stop
signs.
The
next
section
is
about
a
reasonable
speed.
The
next
one
is
a
person
riding
a
bicycle
to
a
stop
light
through
a
red
traffic
control
light.
J
A
Chris
roth,
what
do
you
think
do
you
have
you
noticed
any
like
when
you're
you're
out
working?
What
do
you
think
about
this
whole
thing.
F
F
G
Oh
daniel
have
a
question
about
process
here.
You
know
what,
if,
if
we
send
this
forward
to
counsel,
what
is
that
going
to
look
like
on
your
end?
I
assume
something
like
this
will
probably
have
a
bit
of
discussion,
but
you
know
what
what
what
might
this
look
like
as
it
goes
through
on
your
ring.
H
Yeah,
so
what
would
happen
is
obviously
you're
providing
a
recommendation
or
not
providing
a
recommendation.
So
it's
just
some
another
piece
of
information
that
we
would
take
into
account
when
we're
making
a
decision.
I
personally
am
obviously
you
know
my
stance
on
it.
Obviously,
today
the
the
police
department
and
their
leadership
are
not
moving
forward
in
terms
of
enforcing
this,
but
that
obviously
can
change
at
any
point
with
any
type
of
change,
and
I
just
think
in
terms
of
the
safety
of
cyclists
pedestrians.
H
Overall,
I
think
it
just
makes
sense,
and
I
think
I
think
part
of
the
issue
is
this
uniformity.
Is
that
we're
treating
cyclists
vehicles
and
pedestrians
the
same,
and
I
just
don't
agree
with
that,
because
there
is
different
ramifications
when
it
when
you
know
to
me,
there's
different
ramifications
when
there
is
an
accident
so
but
yeah,
I
think,
just
in
terms
of
just
gonna
be
another
recommendation
which
I
would
or
excuse
me.
That's
just
another
piece
of
information.
H
D
Well,
I
have
a
phone
you
like
that
made
me
think
about
pedestrians
and
what
the
rules
are
for
them.
If
pedestrian
goes
to
an
intersection
that
has
a
stop
sign
and
as
they're
walking
at
a
walking
speed,
they
look
both
ways.
They
see.
There's
nobody
there,
they
just
keep
walking.
That's
that's!
Okay,
right.
J
J
E
D
And
and
then
what
about,
if
there's
a
red
light
and
a
like
a
red
hand
for
a
pedestrian
at
a
crosswalk,
but
it's
3
a.m
and
there's
no
cars
on
the
road
in
any
direction
if
they
cross
at
that
red
light,
then
that
would
would
that
be?
Okay?
Would
that
be
like?
If,
if
that
was
observed,
would
that
be
a
ticketable
offense
or
would
it
could
they
get
in
trouble
for
that.
J
D
Yeah
but.
D
Well,
yeah,
I
mean
I,
I
just
wonder
you
know
to
the
point
about
a
stop
sign
as
a
stop
sign
for
everybody,
but
it
you
know
was
was
a
comment
guy
that
you
made
earlier,
but
I
I
think
you
know
my
my
thought
in
based
on
what
athonia
was
saying,
and
it
just
got
me
thinking
about
this
like.
Is
it
true
that
that's
that's
actually
the
case,
or
is
it
that
you
know?
D
Pedestrians
are
different
than
cars,
their
natures
are
different
and
and
bikes
and
scooters
are
also
different,
the
nature
of
the
different
modes
of
transit,
whether
you're,
walking
or
biking
or
in
a
car
or
in
a
giant
truck
because
they're
all
different,
and
so
they
have
different
rules
for
some
of
these
different
things.
You
know
like.
D
On
dartmouth,
if
they're
fully
loaded
and
too
heavy
right,
so
we
we
have
different
rules
for
for
even
different
kinds
of
cars
and
trucks.
So
I
guess
that
I
I
just
wonder
about
whether
it's
a
pro
you
know,
what's
the
appropriate
rule
for
different
modes
of
transit,.
J
I
think
that's
a
great
question
greg
because
we
do
also
have
weight
restrictions
on
local
roadways.
So
if
something's
over
ten
thousand
pounds,
then
they
can't
be
on
a
they
have
to
be
on
a
collector
street
or
on
designated
areas,
and
so
there
is
different
different
regulations
for
different
modes
of
transportation.
G
I
I
like
that
we're
talking
about
this
stuff.
This
makes
me
really
happy.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
stay
focused
on
the
bicycle
stuff
and
on
the
memo,
but
we
should
definitely
bring
this
up
in
the
future
as
well.
I
I
think
this
could
be
some
good
debate
for
this
committee.
A
Yeah,
so
back
to
the
the
bicycle:
idaho
stop
research,
so
I
think
we
have
a
little
bit
of
agreement,
but
also
disagreement,
and
I
don't
know,
should
we
should
we
pause
it
and
continue
this
conversation
I'd
like
some
more
opinions
on
what
we
should
do,
because
it
seems
like
this
is
a
I
get.
I
mean
personally,
I
get
both
sides.
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
so.
G
We
can,
we
can
always,
you
know,
take
a
motion
order
or
do
something
today
and-
and
you
know,
depending
on
what
the
results
are,
there's
no
things
that
are
blocking
us
from
bringing
this
up
in
the
next
meeting
or
any
other
meetings
as
well.
G
B
As
you
heard,
council
is
re
considering
this
on
september,
8th.
That
would
be
an
ordinance,
so
it
would
be
two
readings
and
mayor
pro
tem
I'll
throw
this
out.
You
know
we
could
potentially
because
our
next
meeting
of
etac
is
on
september
10th.
So
we
could.
B
Potentially,
you
know,
bring
this
back
with
the
actual
wording
to
you
at
the
10th
meeting
and
then
you
could
vote
and
then
maybe
we
moved
this
item
to
the
21st
for
city
council
consideration
which
would
give
etac
another
meeting
to
discuss
and
would
push
the
decision
to
counsel
out
two
weeks.
Wait:
maria.
B
A
H
Yeah,
I
don't
think
that
we
have
it
on
the
agenda
as
of
now,
but
I
think
the
earliest
date
that
we
were
going
to
have
it
back
was
going
to
be
the
8th
of
september.
So
I
think
you're
right.
We
would
just
delay
it
until
the
21st
until
we
get
yeah
a
recommendation
in
either
direction
from
e-tech.
F
G
A
Neil
neil
had
mentioned
last
meeting,
which
I
wasn't
I
didn't
attend,
but
I
really
I
strongly
strongly
vote
that
we
meet
on
our
own.
Like
you
know,
it's
like
the
well.
This
is
on
record,
but
like
the
old
mob,
you
know
they
the
mob
used
to
meet
back
room.
Let's,
let's
go
like
hang
out
in
the
park
and
chat
because
I
would
like
because
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
good
opinions
and
I
I
value
your
opinions
and
I
think
that
sometimes
maybe
what's
wrong
with
chatting
off
the
record.
D
Are
rules
about
open
records
in
colorado
yeah,
so
so
that
was
why
it's
making
a
grimacing
face.
I
would
love
to
talk
to
all
of
you
more
often,
and
I
think
that
there
are
ways
that
we
can
do
that
that
meet
the
goal,
the
the
goal
and
the
letter
of
the
colorado
open
meeting
rules,
but
we
just
have
to
be
sure
that
we
are
following
them.
A
G
Yeah,
so
I
don't
know
greg
or
tiffany,
if
you
guys,
you
know,
have
what
do
you
guys
feel
about
next
steps?
We
got
a
couple
other
members
absent
today,
but
we
do
have
a
quorum
and
we've
got
a
you
know.
People
who've
listened
to
the
presentations
on
this
here.
C
D
Okay,
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
it.
I
do
think
that
it
makes
sense.
I
I
hope
that
the
state
of
colorado
will
just
make
it.
You
know
fact
for
all
of
colorado.
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
much
simpler
thing
that
would
get
rid
of
the
ambiguity
about
it.
You
know
this.
D
I
I
having
read
through
all
of
the
studies
and
you
know
even
with
their
flaws.
I
I
think
that
they
show
that
it's
safer
or
at
least
not
worse,
and
that
feels
like
a
good
thing
to
me,
so
I
don't
know
why
we
would
be
opposed
to
something
that's
safer
or
not
worse,
but
somehow
we
have
a
memo
in
front
of
us.
That
is
with
no
citations
of
studies
that
are
contrary
to
those
studies.
So.
D
Like
there's
this
question
of,
what's
the,
what
what's
of
something
worth
trying
to
pursue
and
put
your
effort
into-
and
I
I
don't
feel
right
now
like
this-
is
worth
putting
more
effort
into.
A
Okay
and
chris
diedrick
yeah.
G
You
know
I
I
I
would
be
okay
tabling
this
for
our
next
meeting
or
or
sometime
in
the
future
as
well.
You
know
I,
I
definitely
see
the
benefits
and
the
drawbacks,
and
you
know
want
to
make
sure
everybody
has
enough
information
to
feel
comfortable,
and
it's
also
something
that
we
can
always
come
back
to
so.
F
A
All
right,
I
motioned
that
we
move
on
to
the
next
topic.
Maria,
do
you
have
the.
E
B
So
if
you
recall
the
june
meeting
the
direction
was
people
were
going
to
look
at
the
bylaws
and
send
any
changes
back.
I
don't
believe
we
received
any,
so
we
can
do
that
process
again
or
if
we
want
to
talk
tonight
through
the
various
sections,
just
kind
of
work
down
and
and
make
any
changes.
It's
really
at
the
pleasure
of
the
committee.
A
Okay,
well,
I
read
through
them
and
I
don't
have
any
changes
but
tiffany
greg
and
chris.
I
guess
it's
up
to
you.
D
There
were,
there
were
two
things
that
are
a
concern
to
me.
Still
there
was,
I
guess,
did
we
so
there
was
there's
a
difference
between
the
term.
E
D
So
are
we
saying
that
it
would
be
three
years?
Is
the
term
that's
what's
still
in
the
bylaws,
it
was
that
I.
B
I
believe
lorraine
did
check
with
the
city
clerk,
and
this
is
accurate.
The
way
that
it's
written
in
the
bylaws
yeah.
E
D
It's
in
the
regular
meetings
section
saying
that
if
quorum
is
three,
then
two
members
must
be
in
physical
attendance
and
no
less
than
one
can
be
can
participate
via
electronic
telephonic
means
to
constitute
quorum,
and
so
it
feels
a
little
rough
to
me
to
be
voting
on
something
in
a
way
that
would
not
be
allowed
once
the
bylaws
are
passed.
B
And,
and
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
think
this
is
pretty
standard
language
in
a
lot
of
the
boards
and
commissions,
and
I
think,
through
the
city
manager's
executive
order.
He
overrode
that
in
order
to
for
the
for
the
pandemic
situation,
so
I
believe
council
has
very
similar
language
or
something
you
know
where
they
have
to
meet
in
person,
and
so
he
had
to
basically
override
that
to
allow
them
to
participate
like
we're
doing
in
zoo
meetings
or
teams,
meetings.
E
F
D
Long
as
often
as
we
want
as
long
as
we
do,
the
proper
notice
to
the
public.
F
G
I
didn't
see
a
provision
in
here.
This
is
going
to
sound
funny,
but
I
I
don't
see
a
provision
for
a
chairperson
term
length.
A
In
here,
oh
well,
chris,
that's
that's
news
to
you
because
I'm
chairman
for
life,
yeah.
F
D
In
the
article
on
page
14,
article
two
section,
two
that
they're
a
two-year
term
and
they
can't
serve
in
the
same
capacity
for
more
than
two
consecutive
terms.
G
Okay,
I
think
I'm
you
know
what
I
think,
I'm
looking
at
the
wrong
link.
I
apologize
clicked
on
the
link
in
the
agenda,
that's
on
the
website
and
it
took
me
to
the
alliance
for
commerce
bylaws.
So
I
was
looking
at
the
wrong
one.
Apologize.
A
G
B
Oh,
I'm
sorry
so
great
you
were.
G
D
Yeah,
I
think
so
yeah
I
mean
my
my
personal
preference.
I
worked
have
worked
at
home
for
the
past
15
years,
so
I
have
a
preference
for
that.
I
feel
like
it.
Works
really
well
and
I
feel
like
it's
been
working
really
well
for
us
for
the
past
couple
months,
but
you
know
I
understand
that
this
is
the.
If
this
is
the
standard
for
the
city,
then
I'm
happy
to
see
it
like
this
and
happy
to
know
that
it
can
be
overwritten
for
extraordinary
circumstances.
G
I
think
for
a
general
comment
to
the
city
and
I'm
sure
they're
considering
this,
but
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
they
or
would
recommend
that
they
just
make
a
sort
of
overarching
rather
than
just
a
city
manager.
You
know
memo
or
order
on
this
sort
of
thing
that
we're
talking
about
here
with
the
in-person
participation,
but
I
would
love
to
see
them
just
sort
of
adopt
something
across
the
board
for
this.
So
it's
not
an
issue
for
these
types
of
meetings.
G
I
know
in
the
past
it
was
an
issue
because
we
would
typically
have
people
over
the
phone,
you
couldn't
see
them
and
it
was
hard
to
verify
the
identity.
But
I
think
where
right
now
is
good.
F
G
F
G
Motion
to
approve
the
bylaws
as
written
here.
A
E
F
A
B
Yeah
sorry,
we
took
the
dartmouth
out
of
out
of
order
there,
but
yeah
now
we're
up
to
number
seven
director's
choice
so.
A
A
A
Okay,
chairperson's
choice.
A
D
I'll
jump
in
then,
and
I
guess
that
they're
just
it-
it's
been
a
bit
of
a
tough
two-month
period.
Since
our
last
meeting,
I
think
there
was
a
a
car
crash
on
bannock.
D
I
think
was
the
corner
where
a
truck
ran
over
a
bicyclist
and
killed
them
and
then
drove
away
and
as
far
as
I
know,
they've
not
been
they've
not
been
identified,
and
there
was
a
car
that,
as
best
I
can
understand,
it
was
just
out
of
control
on
285
on
hampden
and
bannock,
and
they
ended
up
upside
down
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
and
I
believe
that
a
person
in
that
car
also
died
and
then
at
dartmouth
and
franklin
there
was
a
car
and,
as
I
understand
it,
the
driver
had
some
kind
of
a
medical
emergency,
maybe
a
heart
attack
or
something
like
that
and
ended
up
driving
into
the
like
living
room
or
the
front
entryway
of
the
house
at
the
corner
of
dartmouth
and
franklin.
D
So
I
feel
you
know
it
just
like
when
we
look
at
traffic
studies,
so
we're
looking
at
different
proposals.
I
think
that
it
can
be
easy
to
forget
about
the
real
world
impacts
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about,
and
those
were
just
a
couple
things
that
I
was
aware
of.
You
know
I.
I
know
that
a
lot
more
things
happen
than
we
necessarily
hear
about
in
the
news.
D
You
know
smaller
issues,
but
just
wanted
to
mention
that
that's
on
my
mind-
and
you
know
something
that
I
think
should
be
on
all
of
our
minds
as
we
think
about
what
we're
working
on.
I.
A
F
A
Do
you
think
it's
become,
is
it
congestion
or
is
it
just
like
just
life
or
why
are
these
things
be
becoming
so
prominent.
D
As
I
drove
down,
I
noticed
that
bannock
is
one
way
for
a
good
section,
and
I
wonder
about
why
why
that
is
and
if
that's
appropriate
or
if
that's
perhaps
a
contributing
factor
to
you,
know
confusion
in
that
area.
I
think
that
that's
like
maybe
two
or
three
blocks
north
of
where
that
crash.
That
incident
actually
was
so
I
think
you
know,
like.
I
think
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
good
things
to
you
know.
I
know
that,
like
the
turn
signals.
F
D
Have
been
adjusted-
and
I
think
that
that
was
you
know,
based
on
some
strong
evidence
about
crashes
there,
that
you
know,
hopefully,
we've
reduced
the
crashes
happening
there,
I'm
not
sure
what
contributing
factors
there
might
have
been
for
that
car.
That
was
out
of
control
on
285
yeah,
and
then
you
know
how
do
you
know
when
somebody's
gonna
have
a
heart
attack
or
have
a
seizure
or
something
like
that
right?
So
I
I'm
not
sure
what
things
could
be
done
to
try
to
help
with
that.
D
I
do
think
that
you
know
to
the
extent
that
speed
played
a
role
in
how
bad
that
car
running
into
the
house
was
to
the
extent
that
speed
played
a
role
in
that
that,
having
like
the
the
mini
roundabouts
on
dartmouth,
could
be
helpful
to
get
the
speeds
there
a
little
bit
lower
so
that
then
the
impact
of
the
car
and
into
the
houses
is
less.
That
could
be
beneficial
yep.
C
E
D
My
only
guess
was,
like
maybe
large,
trucks,
turning
or
emergency
vehicles,
turning
something
like
that.
A
Have
you
noticed
anything
out
of
the
ordinary
with
that
with
that
not
intersection,
but
that
area
of
manic.
J
F
A
Just
curious
guy
anything
that
you
want
to
add
that's
concerning
as
far
as
the
traffic
studies
and
as
far
as
this
committee
goes,
yeah.
I
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
of
stuff,
I
mean
to
work
on.
I
mean
okay,
everything
from
the
multimodal
stuff
or
working
on
some
stuff
right
now
to
like
the
more
studies
more
dealing
with
some
larger
vision,
and
even
honestly,
you
know
so
like
just
I
guess
to
kind
of
finish.
Your
response
is:
is
my
understanding
bannock?
It
used
to
be
that
the
the
way
broadway
in
hampden
was
configured
was
different
and
there
wasn't
a
clear
movement
so
that
it's
it's
from
there
and
we
have
already
identified.
I
I
don't
believe
it
should
be.
It's
not
so
much
the
one
way,
but
it's
too
late.
One
way
that
we
should.
We
will
initial
eventually
want
to
deal
with
either
either
that
although
I've
pulled
crash
data
and
despite
the
recent
accident,
it
does
not
appear
to
be
causing
a
lot
of
specific
safety
issues,
which
is
a
little
surprising,
because
it's
not
the
primarily
the
fact.
There's
two
lanes
in
one
direction
would
indicate
that
that
would
be
a
speed
issue.
I
The
crashes
are
so
just
on
our
like
a
mile
long
list
that
we
currently
have
it's.
It
hasn't
been
put
on
that,
but
we
fight
we
are
planning
to
eventually
look
at
doing
something
else
about
it.
There
there's
a
couple
different
options,
but
I
think,
and
not
necessarily
even
the
one
way
is
the
issue,
but
having
the
two
lane
in
the
same
direction
is
not
really
appropriate
for
our
neighborhood.
That
neighborhood
context.
A
Anybody
else
maria
chris
groth
and
then
back
to
our
council
members
othenio,
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure,
are
you.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
see
you.
I
don't
know
sorry.
B
I,
I
would
just
add
one
thing:
you're
pr,
if
you're
south
we're
working
right
now,
south
of
oxford
and
west
of
broadway,
what
we
refer
to
as
zone
two.
F
B
We're
starting
our
concrete
utility
work,
which
involves
a
lot
installation
of
a
lot
of
pet
new
pedestrian
ramps,
as
well
as
our
mill
and
overlay
project
is
occurring
down
there
so
and
then
chris
is
also
marking
crosswalks,
so
we're
kind
of
hitting
that
area
of
town
this
year
and
then
next
year
we'll
be
up
in
zone
three,
which
is
kind
of
the
northwest
quadrant
of
town
great,
but
yeah
so
you'll
see
a
lot
of
activity
going
down
in
that
area
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
F
G
I
have
a
question
for
the
city.
I
I'm
curious
in
the
past
couple
years,
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
budget
set
aside
for
some
alley,
paving
projects
and
I'm
curious.
If
that's
I
and
I
hadn't
seen
the
budget,
so
maybe
it
didn't
make
it
in
the
budget.
But
I'm
curious
what
the
outcome
was
from
some
of
that
or
if
you're
aware,
and
if
there's
a
plan
to
continue
with
some
of
those
pilot
projects.
B
Yeah
there
was
money
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
we've
foregone
that
in
order
to
do
what
we
did
this
past
year,
we
just
completed
it
actually
in
that
same
area,
south
of
bro
or
south
of
oxford
and
west
of
broadway,
where
we
actually
went
in
with
a
contractor
and
fine
graded
the
alley
to
create
more
of
a
v.
B
So
we
to
get
the
drainage
away
from
the
homes
as
well
as
to
create
positive
drainage
to
each
end
of
the
alley.
So
that's
worked
really
well,
and
then
we
applied
a
dust
suppressant
to
the
surface,
sprayed
that
on
and
the
results,
and
then
we
trim
back
the
trees
as
well
on
either
side
to
create
more
of
a
open
area
for
vehicles
as
they
pass
through.
So
it's
been
really
well
received
by
the
community
and
so
we're
moving
up
into
zone
one.
B
This
fall,
which
is
the
northeast
portion
of
town,
but
so
we
have
what
we
need
to
do
before
we
actually
pay
valleys.
We've
got
to
develop
a
policy
for
who's
going
to
pay,
for
that,
so
is
it
100
on
the
residence?
Is
it
partially
the
city
and
then
have
to
if,
let's
say
we
move
forward
with
a
policy
where
the
city
paid
a
portion
of
that?
B
How
do
we
prioritize
those,
and
then
that
would
have
to
go
through
the
budget
process,
so
we're
going
to
work
on
that
over
the
winter
time,
because
I
think
there
is
still
a
desire
to
while
I
think
citizens
have
appreciated
what
we've
done.
There
is
still
a
desire
to
at
least
look
at
paving
and
how
we
can
do
that.
A
Okay,
I
have
one
more
question
also
for
the
city:
is
there
any
more
impetus
to
get
the
bike
share
program.
B
I'm
sorry,
patrick
you
broke
up
bike
share.
Did
you
say.
B
B
Okay,
yeah
the
you
know
those
those
companies.
We
saw
right
at
the
beginning,
a
lot
of
those
e-scooters
and
those
bikes
or
not
e-scooters,
but
the
e-bikes
and
the
scooters
kind
of
scattered
around
town,
and
that
seems
to
have
dropped
off
a
bit.
But
we
can
certainly
bring
that
back
for
discussion
again.
Is
the
bike
share
program
and
where
that
might
be
makes
sense,
we've
been
talking
about.
You
know:
how
do
we
connect
kind
of
the
civic
center
area
and
the
rtv
platform
all
the
way
over
the
hospital?
B
B
F
D
My
sense
is
that
englewood,
isn't
I
mean,
doesn't
have
like
an
official
position
on
it.
It's
just
whatever
is
in
our
current
version
of
like
model
traffic
code
is
what
governs
what
can
or
can't
be
done
and
and
that
the
companies
who
provide
those
have
drawn
boundaries
of
where
you're
allowed
to
use
them.
That
are.
D
Of
englewood
north
of
englewood,
mostly,
and
so
we're
just
I
don't
know
like
we
would,
I'm
not.
I
think
that
they're
not
viable
in
englewood
on
their
own,
given
the
nature
of
our
traffic
and
the
density
of
the
city
are
not
viable
at
this
point
anyway,
or
none
of
the
companies
are
willing
to
take
that
risk.
So,
but
it's
possible
that,
like
maybe
the
hospitals,
would
want
to
subsidize
a
program
or
try
to
court
a
program
to.
D
The
that
hospital
to
rtd
connection-
and
maybe
they
could
try
to
help
to
make
that
happen,
providing
space
for
scooters
to
be
left
or
something
like
that.
Okay,.
D
A
Okay,
like
the
last
mile,
you
know
people
get
into
as
opposed
to
I
mean,
let's
be
honest,
we
do
have
a
you
know,
there's
a
homeless
population
and
what
if
people
were
able
to
get
to
work
and
get
to
where
they
need
to
go
there
might
be
a
better
better
usage
of
these.
Oh,
that's
just
my
personal
opinion,
so
patrick.
F
D
H
F
A
A
That's
fine.
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
discuss
the
idea
of
modes
of
transportation
at
some
point
if
it's
next
month,
whatever,
but.
F
G
A
Because
come
on
this
is
our
community
and
it's
the
homeless
problem's
not
going
away.
I
think
we
should
address
it
and
we
should
address
it
with
a
proactive,
positive
response
and
biking
is
one
of
those.
In
my
mind,
positive
response,
so
I
mean
I'm
welcome
to
other
opinions
and
I
think
I
think
other
you're
right.
We
should.
I
think
we
should
put
it
for
next
for
next
meeting.
A
H
A
J
J
The
decorating,
I
guess
a
light
box
on
broadway
and
and
floyd
are
awesome.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
got
a
chance
to
look
at
that
and
they
put
a
ton
of
bicycle
lanes
and
they're
working
on
windermere.
J
So
thank
you
very
much
for
putting
those
bicycle
lanes
in
and
then
I
wanted
to
check
and
I
think
it
was
with
member
of
o'connell
and
maybe
ken
addison,
two
or
three
meetings
ago
about
floyd
and
university
lake
placing
university
the
intersection
there
we're
going
to
think
about
closing
off
the
left
turn
on
to
flowing
place,
and
maybe
I
would
hope
to
even
block
that
off.
So
it's
a
a
closed
street.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
what
the
progress
of
that
is,
I
think
it
kind
of
got
tabled.
J
B
Mark-
and
we
just
haven't
followed
up
on
that-
the
mayor
had
asked
about
that
too,
at
our
discussion
on
august
3rd,
not
necessarily
closing
it,
but
just
the
speeds
in
that
area.
So
that's
on
guy's
to-do
list,
basically
so.
J
Yeah,
look
at
that
speed
is
less
more
of
a
it's
more
of
a
collector
street.
You
know
because
people
are
turning
right
onto
race
and
then
using
floyd
place
as
a
collector
street
to
go
into
the
marketplace
and
also
gps
turns
them
onto
floyd
place
when
they're
trying
to
go
towards
broadway.
You
know
if
you're
going
towards
the
west,
so
yeah
and
then
kent
place.
A
About
over
by
the
fancy
king
zippers.
A
A
A
Yeah
that
that
that
area
is
we
were
talking
about
that
for
a
while
yeah.
What
do
you
guys
think
I
I
don't
really.
I
don't
know
that
that
junction
that
well
other
than
that
it
seems
like
it's.
It's
been
misused
for
turning
on.
You
know
to
make
the
quick
left
when
you
shouldn't
kind
of
thing,
so.
J
J
I
So
I
actually
did
look
a
follow-up
on
this.
The
crash
that
I
had
seemed
to
be
a
little
defective,
so
actually,
I
kind
of
reached
out
to
you
at
some
point
sergeant
mckay,
and
I
never
heard
back
on
that.
I
So
you
know
we
were
busy,
so
I
got
dropped,
we're
actually
working
on
a
larger
scheme
to
improve
stuff
around
there
and
in
the
end
it
might
end
up
that
trying
to
incorporate
into
that
effort
might
make
more
sense,
and
I
also
would
have
to
coordinate
with
denver
if
I
was
going
to
provide
certain
restrictions
because
it
would
affect
how
things
operated
on
the
denver
side
of
the
road.
So
I
did
follow
up
the
crashes.
It
was
a
little
hard
to
def
my
database.
I
It
was
a
little
hard
to
define
the
difference
between
the
crashes,
because
I
don't
think
they
were
always
labeled
properly
and
they're,
not
all
just
inglewood
either
because
the
denver
so
I
was
actually
I
did.
I
was
gonna
like
I
said,
and
but
even
even
when
we
kind
of
defined
that
there
it
was
like,
I
said
there
would
be
incorporated.
We
probably
have
to
incorporate
denver
in
this
discussion
and
also
we're
actually
working
on
a
number
of
I
mean.
I
There's,
you
know,
there's
a
thousand
crashes
in
inglewood
a
year
and
there
we're
actually
are
looking
at
that
area
for
crash
reduction
and
it
might
in
a
long
way
it
might
make
sense
to
try
to
attack
at
the
tackles,
at
the
same
time,
we're
working
on
some
stuff
on
floyd
avenue.
A
I
A
J
I
A
A
D
Has
like
a
eight
foot
high
concrete
wall
all
the
way
around
it,
and
so
the
only
way
to
get
there
from
the
neighborhood
is
along
either
hampden
or
university,
and
that
the
sidewalk
on
hampden
is
luckily
like
four
or
five
feet
wide,
something
pretty
good,
but
on
university,
it's
just
like
two
and
a
half
feet
wide
for
that
half
block
there.
So
it's
it
is
for
for
bikes
and
pedestrians.
It's
a
pretty
rough
spot.
A
Yeah
and
guy
I'm
not
trying
to
call
you
out.
I
think
this
is
just
a
unique
situation
where
the
jurisdictions
kind
of
overlap,
so
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
help
out
and
work
with
you
or
sergeant
mckay.
You
know
like
let's.
I
just
think
we
should
get
it
done,
because
this
isn't
gonna
go
away.
That's
that's!
That's
a
weird
little
interjection
interjunction!
A
B
Yeah,
so
I
think
we
can
put
some
data
together,
we'll
get
together
with
or
talk
to
denver
and
then
bring
something
back
to
you
at
the
next
meeting.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
so
tiffany,
do
you
have
anything
else?
You
want
to
chat
about.
A
Okay,
greg
chris.
D
I'll-
just
sorry
I
didn't
say
this
earlier
in
my
second,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
the
thanks
to
the
city
staff.
I
feel
like
we've.
A
A
Okay,
I
guess
with
that
we
can
adjourn.