►
From YouTube: 9.16.2020 Historic Preservation Committee Meeting
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
B
C
All
right
and
let's
come
to
order
then,
and
we
should
probably
do
a
roll
call
of
for
the
record
right.
C
I
couldn't
tell
because
my
screen
is
maxed
so
for
a
roll
call.
I'm
melinda
ellswick
the
chair.
D
Want
to
speak
up
I'll
I'll,
just
go
down
the
list.
Cj
here,
matt
crabtree,
here,
lauren
cooper.
E
A
F
C
H
No
comments
I'll
move
to
approve
minutes,
as
is.
D
D
So
let's
go
ahead
and
do
public
forum,
so
we
have
a
mister,
come
on
just
a
second
josh
goldstein,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
promote
him.
Allow
him
to
talk
and
josh.
You
can
go
ahead
and
speak
to
the
kushners.
J
Hey
everybody.
Can
you
hear
me
all
right?
Well,
thanks
for
letting
me
crash
your
party,
no
I'm
kidding
thanks
for
letting
me
attend.
My
name
is
josh
goldstein.
I
am
a
former
architect
and
I
am,
I
have
a
master
of
architecture
degree
and
I
currently
work
in
software
development,
but
I
I
grew
up
around
inglewood
and
cinderella.
J
City
mall
was
actually
the
thing
that
got
me
interested
in
architecture
and
I'm
here
tonight,
because
I
wanted
to
basically
offer
my
comments
on
what
I
saw
at
the
open
house
last
week
for
the
city
center
redevelopment,
specifically
the
civic
center
building
or
the
former
broadway
southwest
building.
That
was
part
of
cinderella
city.
J
So
basically
I
I
was
at
that
meeting
and
I
you
know
we
I've
been
following
the
project
and
I
saw
all
the
rfps
and
I
saw
that
the
city
of
englewood
solicited
all
these
firms
to
put
in
their
ideas
and
in
every
single
one
of
those
proposals.
The
broadway
southwest
building
remained
as
far
as
I
could
tell
so
I
didn't
think
that
the
city
would
actually
sort
of.
J
I
don't
know
be
interested
in
demolishing
that
building
and
when
I
attended
the
open
house
or
whatever
it
was
last
week,
it
looks
like
that
it
looks
like
all
those
proposals
are
sort
of
out
the
window
and
they
basically
suggested
tearing
down
the
broadway
southwest
building,
and
I
know
that
there
are,
you
know
operational
concerns
and
maintenance
concerns
about
that
building.
J
But
I'm
here
tonight
as
a
fan
of
history
and
I'm
also
working
on
something
called
the
cinderella
city
project-
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
heard
of
it,
but
I'm
basically
so
I
know
I
said
I
work
in
software.
I
work
at
a
3d
modeling
company
and
I'm
rebuilding
cinderella
city
mall,
virtually
in
its
in
its
early
years,
like
in
the
1968
to
81
and
I'm
doing
another
version
in
its
later
years
after
it
got
renovated,
and
then
I'm
doing
a
third
version.
That's
basically
what
I
would
have
done
as
an
architect
and
a
developer.
J
I
used
to
work.
I
redeveloped
shopping
centers
for
a
living
for
a
few
years.
Basically,
what
I
would
do,
what
I
would
have
done
with
the
mall,
had
they
not
demolished
it
completely
and
instead
cut
it
up
and
and
exposed
certain
areas
of
it
and
make
it
sort
of
a
mixed
use
development
without
raising
the
entire
property.
So
that's
that's
why
I'm
here
is
because
I'm
doing
this
project-
and
I
know
a
lot
about
them
all
and
a
lot
about
the
history-
and
I
am
just
a
big
fan
of
adaptive.
Reuse
generally.
J
We
did
a
lot
of
this
at
the
firm
when
I
worked
in
the
industry,
and
I
just
think
we
have
a
really
really
cool
opportunity-
a
really
exciting
opportunity
to
take
the
broadway
southwest
building-
or
you
know
the
civic
center
as
it
is
now,
and
do
something
really
interesting
and
creative.
That
would
maintain
a
little
bit
of
that
historic
fabric.
Since
that's
the
last
piece
of
cinderella,
city
mall
on
that
site,
rather
than
tear
it
down
completely,
I
think
that
you
can.
J
You
can
actually
adaptively,
reuse
it
and
make
a
very
cool
narrative,
a
very
interesting
narrative
that
does
what
the
you
know.
Tribal
architects
and
the
other
folks
are
trying
to
do,
which
is
introduce
some
nice
streetscape
elements
and
make
sure
the
pedestrian
experience
is
as
nice
and
you
know,
get
some
mixed
use
and
some
different
uses
in
there.
I
think
that
you
can
accomplish
all
that
without
demolishing
the
building
entirely.
J
So
I'm-
I
guess
I'm
here
tonight,
because
I
wanted
to
just
offer
that
as
an
architect
as
as
a
former
developer,
not
a
software
developer,
but
a
real
estate
developer.
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
there
and
I
would
hate
to
see
inglewood
lose
another
piece
of
its
history
because
we
didn't
you
know
I
I
actually
think
20
years
ago,
if
we
thought
a
little
bigger
and
maybe
had
some
more
money,
we
really
could
have
done
something
interesting.
J
We've
got
a
walmart
now
it
is
what
it
is,
but
that
building,
I
think,
is
another
opportunity
for
us
and
I
would
hate
to
see
inglewood
lose
it
because
we
didn't.
You
know
somebody
didn't
offer
some
thoughts
or
some
other
ideas,
so
I'm
actually
working
with.
I
mean
I've
offered
to
the
folks
at
triba
that
I
would
put
together
a
little
proposal.
Given
my
experience,
some
some
ideas
of
what
you
could
do
with
that
building,
you
know
it's
certainly
not.
J
I
don't
expect
it
to
look
like
a
department
store,
but
I
think
that
you
can
keep
a
majority
of
it
and
adaptively
use
it
and
put
like
some
interesting
uses
in
there
and
cut
it
up
a
little
bit
and
maintain
it,
while
still
getting
all
of
those
elements
that
we
want
in
the
new
development
for
city
center.
So
I
guess
I
think
that's
that's
it.
I
just
wanted
to.
J
No,
I
mean
that
that
open
house
last
week
was
the
first
time
like
I
said
that
was
the
first
time.
I
was
even
aware
that
the
idea
of
tearing
it
down
was
truly
like
in
the
books
yeah.
J
I
didn't
know
about
it
either
yeah
yeah,
so
that
that's
it
took
me
by
surprise
and
I
got
pretty
passionate
on
the
call,
because
I
really
did
it
just
came
out
of
left
field
for
me,
given
all
the
proposals
didn't
say
that
so
no,
this
is,
I
don't
know
if
that
group
is
going
to
listen,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
offended
them
by
saying
I
can
do
a
little
study
and
show
you
some
options
here,
but
you
guys
are
just
the
second
group
of
folks.
K
Well,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
you
know
josh-
I
I,
I
guess
so
everybody's
clear
here,
and
so
I
understand
correctly
and
for
the
benefit.
I
guess
of
the
record,
is
that
you
you
want
to
try
to
kind
of
voice.
This
concern
stand
on
the
soapbox
and
say
you
know:
darn
englewood,
you've,
you've
done
you've,
you
kind
of
messed
up
city
center,
the
first
round.
Please
don't
do
it
again
by
losing
the
last
bit
of
history
that
that
city
center
might
have
right.
Is
that
a
good.
J
Way
of
looking
at
it
yeah
and
actually
it's
just
so
nobody
thinks
that
I'm
just
you
know
against
what
they
what
was
done
in
2000
all
you
know
altogether.
I
think
that
the
fact
that
they
saved
the
broadway
southwest
building
to
begin
with
and
use
it
as
a
library
in
the
civic
center
city
offices
and
court
houses.
All
that
stuff,
I
think,
is
very,
very
cool.
I
think
that
was
I
thought
that
was
very
progressive
and
to
be
commended
by
the
city
of
engle.
J
That
was
like
the
one
thing
I
think
was
done
well
in
in
the
development,
and
there
are
some
other
pieces
too,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
it
just
wound
up
being
like
a
lot
of
parking,
lots
and
a
walmart
and
some
other
things.
So,
yes
matt.
I
would
say
that
you're
right,
I
don't
want
to
poo
poo
on
the
entire
project,
as
it
was
because
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
factors
that
went
into
what
what
we
ended
up
with.
J
J
C
J
Architecturally
is
very
of
you
know
it's
the
broadway
southwest
division
when
they
built
these
buildings.
There
was
one
at
villa
italia,
one
at
cinderella,
city.
It's
it's
enigma!
It's!
You
know
it's
of
a
time
it's
of
a
certain
architecture,
it's
of
the
80s,
but
it's
also
of
shopping
centers
and
of
inglewood
and
very
much
of
metro
denver.
J
You
know,
broadway
southwest,
wasn't
exactly
a
global
thing,
so
there
are
only
a
few
of
these
built
and
so
just
yeah,
just
in
terms
of
its
original
architecture
and
the
fact
that
it
represented
whatever
it
did
in
the
80s,
I
think,
is
worth
considering.
Even
though
you're
right,
it's
not
a
50
year
old
building,.
A
E
A
Is
the
parking
lot
at
parking
lot
stuff?
The
garage
and
things
like
that?
Is
that
considered
part
of
the
building.
J
Well,
it
was,
I
mean
if
I
may
speak
to
it.
I
believe
it
was
demolished.
The
original
parking
garage
structure
that
was
there
was
actually
demolished
and
rebuilt.
I
believe
that
what
we
have
today
is
is
much
newer.
Probably
around
1999
or
2000
is
my
understanding
from
what
I
can
tell
from
satellite
photos.
J
So
I
I
don't
know
that
that
would
be
a
critical
component
at
all
and
actually,
when
I
talked
about
this
at
the
at
the
meeting
last
week,
one
thing
that
a
couple
of
folks
brought
up-
and
I
I
agree
with
is
there-
is
a
really
interesting
opportunity
to
play
with
the
terrain
and
the
the
topography
there,
because
you
know
the
mall
had
that
parking
garage
and
it
was
basically
17
feet
below
street
level
to
accommodate
for
the
parking
garage
people
were
asking,
you
know,
should
the
parking
garage
around
that
building
even
remain,
and
I
don't.
J
Of
course,
there's
always
going
to
be
a
need
for
parking,
but
you
could
do
something
really
interesting
where
the
hand
inside
becomes
a
gateway
into
the
into
the
project
and
you
slope
down
from
there
towards
the
broadway
southwest
building
towards
the
light
rail
and
then,
of
course,
you
keep
sloping
down
as
you
get
to
the
north
side
of
the
site
where
the
mary
carter
greenway
and
all
that
stuff
is,
and
so
there
could
be
a
really
interesting
band
that
cuts
through
the
site
and
goes
down
from
hamden
level,
all
the
way
down
to
the
north
side
and-
and
you
could
make
a
really
interesting
procession
with
stairs
and
and
terraced
gardens
and
things
that
kind
of
cuts
through
the
building
or
around
the
building.
J
C
We
just
said
josh,
I
remember
you
giving
a
a
presentation
about
the
within
a
tour
of
the
virtual
cinderella
city
yeah,
that
I
was
absolutely
fascinated
by
and
in
fact
I've
said
to
matt.
If
you
want
to
bring
back
one
of
those
lectures
and
everything
can
we
have
that
one
again.
J
Oh
yeah,
and
by
the
way
the
project
is
so
much
further
than
it
was.
Then
I
mean
I've
got
3d
people
walking
around.
I've
got
the
two
eras
that
you
can
time
travel
between.
It's
really
really
cool
now,
so
I
will
I
plan
on
actually
giving
another
presentation
soon
to
give
an
update
on
the
project.
I
think
you
all
might
be
interested
in
it,
but
thanks
for
attending
melinda,
I
appreciate
that.
K
So,
and
back
to
the
point
with
with
addressing
this
with
the
commission,
I'm
not
sure
what
we
can
necessarily
do
as
a
commission,
but
it
kind
of
sounds
like
the
city
may
not
be
looking
at
all
options
and
they
not
may
not
be
aware
of
all
options,
and
it
would
be
unfortunate
for
the
last
remaining
portion
of
the
cinderella
city.
You
know
landmark
to
be
lost
through
this,
and
you
know
a
mistake
made
that
you
know
could
be
both
from
an
environmental
impact,
but
then
also
from
a
you
know.
K
Physical
and
historical
element
be
reused,
and-
and
I
I
guess
I
ask
you-
know
the
folks
that
you
know
jason
lauren-
you
both
have
been
involved
with
history,
colorado,
melinda
you're,
the
chair
of
our
group.
What
what
can
we
do
to
help
josh
in
his
venture
here
to
spread
the
word
and
communicate
help
help
him
with
his
mission
here.
C
Because
like
if
we
can
protect
it
as
a
a
city
landmark,
but
somebody
has
to
apply
we're
not
allowed
to,
and
I
don't
know
that
it
has
to
be
the
building
owner,
because
certainly
somebody
else
did
all
the
application
for
the
the
key
bank,
for
instance.
C
So
it
might
be.
If
we
can
get
a
citizen
to
apply
for
landmark
designation
for
that
building,
then
we
can.
K
K
E
Well,
I
was
just
going
to
say
yeah
that
we
we
have
the
landmark
application
and
everything,
but
that's
unfortunately,
still
not
approved.
So
I
think
what
we
can
do
as
a
commission
is,
you
know,
sort
of
really
try
and
keep
pushing
to
get
the
application
approved
and
get
whatever
protections
in
place
that
we
can.
Those
are
things
that
you
know
we're
working
towards,
but
we
don't
have
solidified
yet,
but
in
the
meantime
I
think
just
advocacy
and
promoting
it
and
getting
spreading
the
word
about
it.
E
I
think,
is
you
know
the
most
important
thing
we
can
do
at
this
point
is
like
really
just
try
to
like.
Let
people
know
that
this
is
what's
happening,
and
this
is
this
building
is
important,
and
this
is
why
yeah,
I
don't
know
jason
if
you
have
anything
to
add.
H
No,
I
think,
that's
good
good
advice
on
you
know.
The
best
approach
we
can
do
is
just
try
to.
H
Other
pieces
we've
been
working
on
in
place,
so
we
can
start
kind
of
doing
this
sort
of
work
and
helping
folks
with
the
properties
they're
interested
in.
K
Now
this
may
be
a
question
for
eric,
but
is
it
possible
for
us
to
as
a
board
agree
to
some
sort
of
wording
or
letter
that
would
encourage
counsel
to
further
review
other
options
with
that
due
to
the
historic
nature
of
that
structure,.
D
Let
me
look
into
that.
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
off
the
top
of
my
head
of
what
would
be
appropriate
in
the
situation.
A
J
Yeah,
that's
that's
hard
to
say
I
guess
I'm
from
my
perspective,
I'm
I
don't
know.
I'm
just
gonna
say
this
like
I'm
a
visual
guy
and
I
feel
like
some
people
might
be
visual
people,
and
so,
if
I
guess
my
that's,
why
I'm
kind
of
looking
at
doing
a
study
myself
just
to
show
like
here's
an
alternate
future
of
not
tearing
it
down
and
actually
get
buy-in
through
by
way
of
like
here,
is
a
well-thought-out
proposal
for
something
you
could
do
in,
like
you
know,
put
a
hotel
in
there
and
here's.
J
What
that
could
look
like
and
make
the
ground
floor
really.
Nice,
retail
and
you
know
here's
what
that
could
look
like.
So
I
think,
from
my
perspective,
if
I
did
some
sort
of
study
and
put
together
so
when
I
used
to
work
at
the
design
firm,
we
called
it
a
vision
book
and
our
goal
was
always
to
get
the
clients
bought
into
the
vision
and
a
lot
of
it
was
just
like
you
know
it's
like
reference
imagery
and
it's
showing
you
a
design,
but
it's
also
sort
of
saying
like
well.
J
J
We
got
them
interested
in
the
possibilities
that
they
hadn't
considered,
because
we
gave
them
some
visuals
and
we
gave
them
some
ideas
that
just
would
not
have
come
into
their
head
if
we
didn't
put
those
visuals
in
front
of
them
so
from
for
me,
it
seems
like
if
I
were
to
put
something
together
just
as
a
discussion
point
and
then,
if
you
guys,
could
you
know
if
I
put
something
together
and
it
was
really
compelling
like
you
want
to
buy
into
this
vision,
you
want
to
be
there.
You
want
to
experience
this.
J
Maybe
we
get
other
buy-in
that
way
and
if
you
guys
could
maybe
circulate
that
around
and
say:
hey,
here's
an
alternative.
Wouldn't
this
be
nice?
If
we
had
this-
and
you
can,
you
know
show
them
that
I
mean
that's,
that's
been
our
weapon
in
terms
of
getting
people
to
understand
the
significance
of
history
and
adaptive.
Reuse
is
showing
them
what
the
possibilities
are
not
just
talking
about
it.
J
A
J
So
no,
I
only
talked
to
triba
and
and
the
folks
that
were
on
that
call
last
week
and
I
gave
them
those
thoughts.
But
I
was
considering
getting
my
old
firm
involved.
Just
to
you
know,
they're
they're
always
looking
for
new
work
and
they
would
have
done
an
incredible
job.
But
I
to
answer
your
question.
No
because
I
didn't
really
know
until
last
week
that
this
was
even
a
problem
because.
K
J
K
And
there's
there's,
obviously
I
mean
you're
doing
this
and
for
full
disclosure
josh-
and
I
have
talked
about
this-
you
know
before
beforehand
and
josh,
putting
together
any
kind
of
proposal
or
anything
like
that
would
be
done
on
his
own
time
and
for
no
expectation
of
money
out
of
it.
Whereas
architects,
you
know
that
are
frustratingly
working
for
the
city
right
now,
they're
getting
paid
for
this
and
they're
not
coming
up
with
as
many
ideas
as
what
josh
is
coming
up
with.
K
It's
an
interesting
situation,
josh
that
you're
interested
that
you're
willing
to
put
in
so
much
time
to
create
a
plan
like
that
and
effectively
not
get
anything
out
of
it.
G
That's
what
I
wanted
to
just
mention
is
that
I
think
it's
really
special
when
a
member
of
the
community
wants
to
put
so
much
heart
into
the
development
of
the
community,
and
I
think,
there's
just
so
much
value
in
that,
and
so
I
want
to
support
you
in
any
way
that
I
can.
G
I'd
be,
I
would
love
to
see
what
you're
seeing
I
I
it
sounds
beautiful,
but
I'm
one
of
those
visual
people
so.
J
Totally
yeah
I
mean
I
could
talk
about
it
all
day
until
I
give
you
a
visual,
it's
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
the
vision
in
your
head
is
the
same
as
the
vision
in
mind.
So
that's
that's
why
I
want
to
do
this.
You
know
just
to
get
everybody
on
a
page
like
and,
like
I
said,
our
clients,
even
the
people
who
were
the
most
sort
of
anti
they
didn't
want
to
spend
the
money
they
didn't
want
to.
They
didn't
care
about
this
or
that
we
showed
them
visually
go.
I
want
that.
F
C
Well,
presenting
something
like
that
to
city
council
could
also
be
starting
the
conversation
in
the
right
direction.
J
Totally
I
I
totally
thought
of
that
too.
It's
just.
I
don't
wanna
step
on
toes,
because
I
know
that
they
hired
a
firm
and
I'm
gonna
come
in
as
some
nobody
who
comes
in
like
well.
Here's
this.
You
know,
I
don't
it's
a
little,
maybe
a
little
touchy
in
that
regard,
but
yeah.
I
would
love
to
show
city
council
some
ideas,
because
I
think
they
would
they
would
also
go.
I
want
that
for
my
community.
G
In
the
absence
of
an
official
application
for
historical
significance,
is
it
possible
for
someone
like
josh
to
to
write
at
least
a
letter
or
submit
something?
So
it's
on
the
record
that
that
is
being
requested.
D
D
I'd
be
happy
to
write
it
up
yeah,
I
would
say
that
might
be.
I
mean
you
might
want
to
talk
to
the
council
member,
that's
in
charge
of.
F
That
area,
that's
an.
D
Idea
but.
K
Well,
it'll
also
be
good.
I
was
you
know
it's
kind
of
disappointing
that
dave
cuesta
was
unable
to
attend
tonight
because
he's
you
know
being
a
council
member,
he
would
have
been
a
good
resource
to
to
sound
this
off
of,
but.
E
Hey
jason
it'd
be
possible
to
do
like
a
architectural
inventory
form
for
the
building
through
the
shippo's
office
and
get
that
submitted
and
like
approve,
for
you
know,
get
an
official
eligibility
determination
from
them.
H
Yeah,
so
the
process
for
that
is
it's
a
the
first
steps.
It's
a
little
different
than
a
site
inventory
form.
So
it's
a
preliminary
property
evaluation
form
and
that's
something.
That's
certainly
anybody
can
submit
to
our
office.
You
know
repo
counties
in
my
area,
so
it
could
be
sent
to
me
and
certainly
I
can
try.
H
You
know
forward
that
form
and
and
that's
something
that
captures
just
kind
of
the
basic
historic
information,
and
you
know
current
photos
and
all
that
stuff
and
once
a
month
we
have
a
eligibility
committee
where
we
review
submitted
properties
to
provide
a
recommendation
if
they
are
eligible
for
the
national
or
state
register.
H
And
if
they
are,
you
know
if
we
do
think
they're
eligible.
You
know
which
register
would
be
most
appropriate.
So
that's
certainly
something
that
you
know
anybody
can
can
do
and
submit
to
our
office.
E
H
Yeah
no,
I
mean
that's,
certainly
something
that
that
can
be
done
and
again
it's
reviewed
by
both
staff
as
well
as
includes
leadership,
so
the
deputy
shippo's
are
on
there.
So
you
know
it's
full
full
recommendation
kind
of
indemnified
by
you
know
management
and
stuff.
So.
H
So
the
one
I'm
talking
about
is
the
it's
called
a
preliminary
property
evaluation
form.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
a.
We
never
seem
to
have
a
chat
on
our
zoom
thing.
Otherwise
I
would
a
link
right
now,
but
it
can
be
found
on
our
on
history
colorado's
website
under
the
national
and
state
register,
historian
page
there's
a
tab
that
says
you
know.
I.
H
My
property
and
there's
a
link
to
the
forum
there
and
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
stripped
down
form
because
it's
kind
of
like
the
first
first
step
in
things.
So
it's
not
too
too
intensive,
but
meant
to
provide
the.
H
Needed
for,
for.
A
C
Oh
well,
it
is
in
our
mandate
that
we
recommend
to
city
council.
A
J
So
that
form,
if
I
went
and
filled
out
that
form
the
nominating
property
I
it
doesn't
have
to
happen
in
tandem
with
like,
in
other
words,
the
form
that.
J
J
H
Yeah,
sorry,
I
could
have
clarified
for
that
yeah.
So
the
preliminary
property
evaluation
form
that
is
solely
on
its
eligibility
to
either
national
or
state
register,
so
yeah
the
kind
of
proposals
for
ideas
for
adaptive
reuse.
That
would
be
something
outside
of
this.
It's
kind
of
just
the
narrow
is.
J
J
K
H
And
I
saw
your
email
eric
on
amending
the
agenda,
who.
J
H
Come
first
and
I
was
also
going
to
recommend
another
adjustment
after
clarification
in
our
old
business
part
of
the
agenda,
it
looks
like
c
neighborhood
survey
update
and
then
there's
also
e
survey
grant
plan
estimates,
and
if
that,
if
c
is
also
talking
about
the
survey
plan,
grant,
I
think
c
and
e
should
be
one
in
the
same,
because.
D
Yeah
the
neighborhood
survey,
that's
with
madeleine.
H
H
Matter,
yeah
they're
pretty
similar,
but
it
doesn't
matter
but
never
mind
I'll
I'll.
Just
get
to
the
point
that
I
moved
to
recommend
new
business
before
old
business
for
the
purpose
of
allowing
wade
burkholder
to
speak
to
the
unified
development.
A
F
D
Passes
and
so
yeah
wait.
K
I
I
Me:
okay,
okay,
perfect,
so
my
name
is
wade
burkholder,
I'm
the
planning
manager
in
the
community
development
department
at
the
city-
and
why
we're
here
this
evening
is
we
are
beginning
the
process
of
updating
our
unified
development
code
or
our
zoning
code
is
another.
A
term
that
you'll
hear
title.
16
is
another
term
that
you
might
hear
the
unified
development
code
houses
all
of
our
development
regulations.
I
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
tonight
is
introduce
you
to
jen.
Gardner
jen
is
with
logan
simpson,
llc
and
fort
collins,
and
the
city
has
hired
logan
simpson
to
help
us
with
this
assessment
and
what
jen
is
doing
is
is
really
reaching
out
to
the
community
and
all
the
boards
and
commissions
to
gather
their
thoughts
as
to
what's
working
in
the
code.
What's
not
working.
What
would
you
like
to
see
changed
in
this
sort
of
thing?
I
B
Great
thank
you
wade
and
good
good
evening.
Commissioners,
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight.
That
was
actually
a
really
great
presentation
that
josh
just
gave
that
was
really
inspiring
to
hear
that
so
kind
of
hard
to
follow
it
with
the
unified
development
code,
but
we'll
give
our
best
shot.
So
would
you
guys
mind
if
I
shared
a
quick
presentation
with
you
on
the
screen?
B
So
anyway,
as
wade
said
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
unified
development
code
assessment,
I
am
going
to
give
a
quick
project
overview
and
then
we're
going
to
have
a
good
discussion
with
you
guys
so
for
the
project
overview.
Really,
the
the
primary
purpose
of
updating
any
any
zoning
or
development
code
is
to
make
sure
that
the
core
policy
documents
of
the
community
and
the
community
goals
and
values
are
reflected
in
the
unified
development
code.
B
So
when
we
talk
about
core
policy
documents,
we're
talking
about
the
inglewood
forward,
comprehensive
plan,
transportation,
master
plans,
parks
and
rec
master
plans.
Those
those
type
of
documents
like
the
comprehensive
plan
was
updated.
I
believe
in
2016
and
a
lot
of
those
policies
have
not
been
directly
rolled
into
the
unified
development
code,
yet
so
and
then
just
making
sure
that
we're
aligned
with
the
the
community
values
of
of
what
development
should
look
like
in
the
in
in
inglewood.
B
So
some
potential
outcomes
of
this
assessment
could
could
result
in
dimensional
regulations
changing
to
align
with
neighborhood
character
and
when
I
say
dimensional
regulations,
I
mean
your
side,
your
setbacks,
your
property
setbacks,
building
heights.
Some
of
those
type
of
of
regulations,
we've
heard
a
lot
about
parking
regulations
already
in
our
in
our
initial
conversations
with
people.
B
So
I
would
expect
to
see
some
proposed
recommendations
to
tweak
the
parking
recommendations
to
to
suit
this,
the
community
a
little
bit
better
sustainability
goals,
there's
not
a
ton
of
very
specific
sustainability
elements
rolled
into
the
code.
As
of
now
like
solar,
solar
access,
electric
vehicle
park
charging
stations,
some
some
of
those
types
of
things
are
low
impact
development,
where
you're
taking
storm
water
and
and
running
it
through
pervious
surfaces
or
rain
gardens.
B
Some
of
that
stuff
is
is
not
quite
in
the
code
yet
so
you
know
just
looking
at
whether
that
needs
to
be
added
or
not,
and
then
providing
options
for
for
diverse,
diverse
housing
for
a
range
of
incomes
and
age
levels
and
everything.
So
we
can
keep
keep
inglewood
great
and
keep
the
right
mix
of
people
in
the
city
so
by
right
mix,
I
just
mean
so
so
anyway,
our
process
kind
of
has
three
steps.
The
first
two
steps
go
hand
in
hand.
B
We
as
a
as
a
consultant
team,
are
reviewing
the
unified
development
code
top
to
bottom
looking
through
all
those
core
policy
documents.
I
think
I
have
a
stash
of
like
100
documents
that
wade
sent
me
different
development
applications.
B
Some
information
from
from
you
guys
that
you
guys
have
been
working
on
some
documents
that
the
design
review
team
has
worked
on
so
just
just
a
lot
of
different
documents,
so
we
can
really
get
our
heads
into
how
development
is
occurring
in
inglewood
currently
and
where
maybe
some
of
those
pinch
points
are
that
we
can
try
to
make
some
recommendations
to
address
with
the
code
listening
to
the
community
is
the
second
piece
of
that
and
that's
why
we're
here
with
you
guys
tonight
we
kicked
off
our
community
outreach
last
week
with
a
telephone
town
hall
and
an
online
questionnaire.
B
B
We
had
our
first
park
in
person
park
event
last
weekend.
We
have
another
one
tomorrow
night
and
three
more
following
that
and
there's
a
calendar
on
the
website
of
when
those
events
are
just
to
provide
another
opportunity
for
people
to
interact
with
covid
we're
trying
to
be
more
more
digital
outreach.
But
we
did
still
want
to
provide
those
in-person
opportunities
and
then
we've
spent
a
bunch
of
hours
this
week
meeting
with
focus
groups.
B
So
we've
been
meeting
with
developers
chamber
of
commerce
members
community
members
to
understand
some
again,
some
of
the
what's
working
and
what's
not
with
the
existing
code.
So
with
that-
and
I
know
wade
already
kind
of
explained
what
the
code
does
regulate.
So
I
have
a
few
questions
for
you
guys
more
specific
to
your
of
your
alley
with
the
historic
preservation
commission.
B
So
in
general,
if
you
do
have
general
ideas
of
what's
working
and
not
with
the
code,
if
you
have
worked
with
the
code
and
you
and
you
want
to
throw
some
of
that
in
by
all
means,
go
for
it.
But
basically
we
were
looking
through
kind
of
what's
in
the
code
now
and
there
is
a
historic
preservation
section.
It's
only
about
two
pages
long
and
it
speaks
more
to
establishing
designating
structures
or
districts.
B
So
it's
a
great
start
and
that
that'll
really
help
you
guys
in
in
doing
some
of
these
things
that
even
what
josh
was
just
talking
about.
B
So
I
know
you
guys
are
working
on
a
landmark
designation
application
and
I
believe
what
else
was
there
a
demolition
permit?
I
don't
know
if
that
has
been
passed
yet,
but
all
you
know
sounds
like
you
guys
are
moving
in
in
the
right
direction
to
try
to
really
get
get
some
teeth
in
the
commission.
B
But
so
these
questions
are:
are
there
any
design,
guidelines
or
regulations
that
should
be
codified
to
ensure
historic
preservation?
I
know
that
arapaho
acres
is
designated
as
a
historic
district,
but
I
have
been
searching
high
and
wide
and
I
can't
find
any
design
standards
or
design
regulations
or
guidelines.
So
I'm
not
sure
if,
if
how
how
development
is
restricted
or
not
within
that
area,
so
I
live.
A
In
a
repo
acres,
oh
good,
no,
we
have
nothing,
nothing.
We've
already
lost
six
homes.
We
have
nothing
to
protect
them.
The
idea
that
there
was
covenant
housing
that
was
no
longer
enforced
from
the
60s
on
so
whoever
I
guess,
hawkins
that
developed
the
neighborhood
that
lived
here
when
he
died
and
moved
on,
so
to
speak.
No
one
else
kind
of
took
up
the
reins
so
with
them
not
being
enforced
for
over
60
years,
they're,
pretty
much
moot.
A
B
So
is
that
something
that
you
guys
as
a
commission
feel
like
is
needed
some
more
guidelines
or
some
sort
of
direction
for
people
to
develop
or
not
develop
within
that
area?
Or
you
know
if
there's
a
remodel,
how
they
need
to
be
how
that
needs
to
be
handled
well,.
A
Jen,
just
so
you
know,
diane
ray
tommaso
was
is
a
historic
preservationist
ourselves
herself
and
she
lives
in
the
neighborhood,
and
she
created
a
book,
a
design
guidelines
book.
If
you'd
like
me
to
loan
it
to
you,
I'm
I'm
more
than
willing
to
do
that.
Do.
B
A
B
A
B
Okay,
I
was
gonna
see
if
you
guys
knew
about
that.
It's
the
neighborhood
preservation
overlay,
oh,
and
it's
that
small
little
area.
I
have
a
map
of
it
actually
right
here.
I.
B
Okay,
this
is
this
map
is
twisted
sideways,
so
right
or
north
is
to
your
right.
It's
a
neighborhood
preservation
overlay
that
was
adopted.
Wade
might
have
to
jump
in
on
this.
It
hasn't
been
around
for
too
horribly
long.
I
think
it
was
a
citizen-led
effort.
I
Yeah,
essentially
it
was
citizen-led,
but
city
council
did
have
to
adopt
the
designation.
It's
probably
been
around
since
2000
fifteen.
Sixteen
and
it's
really
an
area
that
is
a
budding.
The
medical
district
and
this
area
essentially
got
together
in
in
efforts
to
sort
of
limit
the
amount
of
density
that
could
be
built
within
this
boundary.
I
I
Those
densities
are
locked
in,
so
they
they
basically
can't
go
any
higher
than
that,
but
they
can
build
back
to
that
density.
Should
they
say,
for
example,
some
disaster
happens
or
anything
like
that
they
can
build
back
to
that
density,
but
any
new
17
unit,
20
unit
buildings
will
not
be
permitted
in
that
area.
So
if
you
have
a
single
family
house,
you
want
to
redevelop,
you
can
go
up
as
a
single
family
house
or
a
duplex.
I
Because
they
wanted
to,
they
wanted
some
flexibility
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
redevelopment
in
this
area,
but
not
to
overshadow
the
character
of
that
neighborhood.
I
A
Just
for
my
help
here,
what
what
do
the
black
lines
and
the
red
things
mean.
I
F
B
I'm
not
sure
either
and
I
clipped
this
out
of
a
larger
map
and
some
of
those
symbols
were
kind
of
around.
I
I
wonder
if
they
were
just
kind
of
left
over
in
creating
the
map,
I
I
didn't
see
any
rhyme
or
reason
to
them
either.
I
didn't
create
this
map.
We
kind
of
borrowed
it
from
somewhere
borrowed
it
from
the
city
from
a
city
document,
but
well
so
a
neighborhood
protection
overlay
is
a
way
to
provide
some
protection
to
specific
areas
of
historic
significance.
B
So
you
know
arapaho
acres
could
potentially
you
know,
just
as
a
thought.
You
could
put
an
overlay
over
that
and
provide
some
basic
recommendations
or
regulations
if
there's
any
other
areas
of
town
that
that
feel
like
they
would
be
suited
to
a
situation
like
this.
So
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
if
you
guys
have
had
any
conversations
about
that.
If
that's
ever
come
up,
if,
if
the
historic
preservation
section
of
the
code
is,
is
good
the
way
it
is
then
you
know
then
work,
then
we're
good.
So.
A
Everything
can
use
improvement.
Sure
I
do
know
that
there's
one
or
two
blocks
that
have
all
the
craftsman
houses
that
I
thought
would
be
so
cool
to
be
able
to
protect
that
block,
but
I've
never
taken
the
time
to
knock
on
their
doors
and
say
hey
now
that
I
know
what
an
npo
is.
Maybe
you
guys
want
to
do
this
for
your
block.
H
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean
I
think
this
is
something
that
would
broadly
support
this
type
of
protections
and
something
kind
of
looking
into
seeking
other
ways.
You
know
with
our
landmark
designation,
we're
trying
to
see
if
there's
like
level
of
protections
that
we
can
have
to
go
with
with.
H
That
are
designated,
but
you
know
this
is
certainly
another
tool
and
you
know.
H
Of
density
makes
such
a
huge
difference.
You
know,
inglewood
has
a
very
particular
kind
of
residential
character,
all
the
setbacks
and
houses,
and
you
can
really
see
how
much
of
a
negative
impact
it
has
when
things
are
built
out
and
redeveloped,
and
so
I
think
this
sort
of
stuff
is
something
that
would
be
really
great
to
have
as
a
tool
more
codified
within
the
development
code
and.
H
Okay,
yeah.
H
And
you
know
looking
at
you're
speaking
to
sustainability
and
that's
something
that
historic
preservation
plays
a
really
big
role
in.
So,
if
there's
people
who
are
of
interest
in
sustainability,
I
think
this
is
another
way
to
tie
that
into
it
that
historic
preservation.
You
know.
F
H
Also
speaks
to
you
know:
housing
equity,
older
houses.
You
know,
typically,
you
know,
house
more
middle
class,
lower
class
people
provide,
you
know,
naturally
provide
affordable
housing
and
as
well
as
historic,
commercial
buildings,
typically
house
local
locally
owned
businesses.
So
I
think
just
overall,
if
there's
things
that
we
can
do
in
this
code,
overhaul
to
either
incentivize
reusing
buildings
that
are
there
or
using
more
of
these
neighborhood.
K
Yes,
please
so
these
these
are
very
specific
and
very
important
questions
that
do,
I
think,
need
to
be
reviewed
again.
We
didn't
have
much
influence.
I
don't
think
cj
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
this.
We
we
didn't
have
much
influence
on
exactly
what
was
written
in
the
england
municipal
code,
that
is,
that
just
existed
before
us
and
we
were
added
as
a
commission
as
a
result
of
that
after
the
fact
is
that
right,
cj
that
the
aware
of.
A
That
from
what
I
understand,
doug
doug
had
brought
out
something
that
had
happened
10
years
before
and
finally,
you
know
and
finally
said
you
know,
hey
guys.
Well,
maybe
eight
years,
hey
guys,
you're
not
doing
this.
Yet
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I
know
there's
been
some
sort
of
step
where
something
was
stated,
but
then
didn't
follow
through
just
like
jen
had
kind
of
alluded
to
with
our
2016.
B
Yeah
the
ordinance
looks
like
it
was
prepared
in
2004,
so
it
was
definitely
very
general
just
to
just
to
give
that
option
for
historic
designation.
So
now
is
a
great
time
for
you
guys
to
get
some
more
in
there.
Now
that
your
commission
is
starting
to
gel
and
you're
you're
kind
of
getting
your
feet
wet,
so
to
speak,
so
yeah.
F
B
K
Is
there
a
timeline
or
expectations
associated
with
this?
These
questions,
I'm
sure
that
there's
a
pretty
these
are
three
rather
broad
topics
that
are
going
to
require
some
time
to
think
about.
B
A
Hey
matt,
I
was
curious
with
the
historic
society
map
that
lindsay
was
working
on
years
ago.
I
don't
know
where
that
is
in
the
scheme
of
life,
but
where
that
has
those
different
pieces
on
it,
maybe
even
in
draft
form
sending
that
to
jen.
A
Going
to
point
out
the
the
house,
that's
with
the
the
brown
palace,
you
know
different
little
things
like
that.
K
Right
yeah
the
walking
tour
of
historic
landmarks
in
england
we're.
Actually
we
have
we've
received
some
support
from
the
city
on
that
there
will
be
something
coming
up
with
that
pretty
soon
here,
but
having
having
that
list
and
providing
it
over
would
be
certainly
helpful.
A
C
There
are
so
within
inglewood
right
now
that
are
a
state
or
national,
historic,
designation,
okay,.
A
Well
and
what's
cool,
is
I
forget
what
the
name
of
it
jason
or
lauren?
You
may
know
it
got,
save,
save,
save
designation
by
historic
colorado,
and
it
was
right
here
along,
I
want
to
say
harvard
gulch-ish
area
off
of
yale
and
ogden.
Do
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about?
A
It
was
amazing.
I
met.
I
met
a
lady
there
that
does
photography
at
the
malley
center,
went
to
her
house
to
pick
up
cards
and
it
was
a
whole
neighborhood.
I
had
never
even
knew
existed
and
she
said
that
it
it
had
got
financial
as
well
has
obviously
administrative
support
to
protect
that
area.
A
B
Well,
she's,
looking
that
up
just
another
question
that
I
didn't
throw
in
here,
it
gets
a
little
bit
more
specific,
but
I
know
you
guys
have
the
demolition
permit
that
you're
working
on
have
you
thought
about?
I
just
give
walk
me
through
a
little
bit
about
your
thought
process
with
the
demo.
Permit.
Is
it
because
that
is
a
way
that
we
that
you
can
kind
of
slow
down
development
of
a
historic
home?
So
is
that
kind
of
the
thought
process.
K
Here
I'll
give
you
a
little
background.
That
was
a
project
that
I
was
working
on,
so
inglewood
has
a
demolition
permit
that
is
uncharacteristic
to
other
cities.
Most
cities.
When
you
apply
for
a
demolition
permit,
you
fill
out
a
permit
that
is
dedicated
to
just
demolition.
It's
usually
multiple
pages.
It
usually
carries
requirements
such
as
notifying
adjacent
properties,
any
kind
of
health
impacts
of
them,
demolishing
property,
any
kind
of
environment.
You
know
other
environmental
impacts,
but
then
also
references,
a
local,
historic
preservation,
commission
and
asking
questions
like.
Is
it
50
years
old?
K
You
know
so
on
and
so
forth.
The
city
of
englewood
application
was
paired
with
a
building
permit
and
was
about
three
quarters
of
a
page,
okay,
so
quite
a
bit
quite
a
bit
behind
the
times
on
that.
But
what
was
interesting
is
that
there's
actually
within
the
inwood
municipal
code,
it
specifically
states
that
the
building
permit
has
to
list
very
specific
items
and
those
items
were
listed
on
the
building
perm.
K
So
we've
been
working
pretty
closely
with
karen
there
to
you
know,
raise
some
of
the
suggestions
that
we
would
like
to
see
on
there
and
you
know
she's
kind
of
pushed
back
on
a
few
of
them
and,
and
you
know
those
sort
of
things
but
effectively.
K
I
I
think
our
ultimate
goal
is
to
go
to
england
city
council,
with
with
our
recommendations
for
a
one,
get
rid
of
the
portion
of
the
england
municipal
code
that
specifically
states
that
only
certain
things
can
be
said
on
that,
and
then
second
to
that
is
you
know,
listing
things
that
would
track
and
document,
and
you
know,
identify
structures
that
were
being
torn
down
and
their
age
and
things
along
those
lines,
and
I
guess
the
third
objective
would
be
to
kind
of
help
the
city
realign
the
demolition
permit
with
what
other
cities.
A
Yeah,
it's
called
ditch.
I
sent
it
to
matt
asking
if
he
could
throw
it
out
there
somehow.
So
it's
called
city
ditch
it
stretches
from
emerson
park
up
through
emerson.
So
you
know
emerson
kind
of
stops.
It
stops
at
what's
this
street
amherst.
A
A
K
What's?
What's
the
what's
the
address
or
what's
the
the
cross
streets
again
because.
A
B
K
B
F
C
It
shows
it's
numbered
in
the
zoning
map
and
called
timberlea.
A
B
Interesting
cool
learn
something
new
every
day,
yeah
well
great.
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
more
of
your
guys's
meeting
time.
If
you
want
to
think
about
these
questions
and
and
get
back
to
us
within
like
the
next
month
or
so
that
would
that
would
be
fantastic,
but
it
sounds
like
you
are
leaning
towards
wanting
a
little
bit
more
teeth
in
the
in
the
code,
so
we
can
certainly
even
look
at
some
what
some
other
communities
are
doing.
A
C
It
leadville
we
looked
at
the
number
of
greely
golden.
B
B
Of
those
I'm
I'm
somewhat
familiar
with
greely's
and
longmont,
so.
K
And
we
can
I've
got
the
we
researched
peer
community,
specifically
for
and
cash
yeah.
I
think
you
helped
a
little
bit
and
it
was
also
the
other
guy
that
used
to
be
on
here.
K
Name
mike
jones
and
we
researched
adjacent
communities,
their
demolition
permits
and
then
dug
a
little
bit
into
their
historic
preservation
process
in
relation
to
when
a
structure
is
being
requested
to
be
demolished.
So
we
have
some
of
that
information.
I
can
provide
that
over
to
you.
A
K
We
looked
at
denver,
we
looked
at
littleton,
but
littleton
is
a
is
a
different
situation
with
something
something
with
theirs
is
a
little
different.
A
B
All
right,
well,
you
guys
have
been
very
helpful.
It's
been
really
enjoyable
talking
with
you
guys
here
at
the
end
of
this
long
day
of
meetings.
So
thanks
jen,
thanks
for
your
help,
yeah
thank
you
guys
and
yeah
just
shoot
some
some
ideas
my
way
or
wade's
way.
As
soon
as
you
have
some
some
you
know
have
some
time
to
think
about
this.
I
We
just
no
just
want
to
say
thank
you
all
to
for
listening
for
to
us
tonight.
Look
forward
to
talking
with
you
more.
A
B
E
G
E
I
have
a
follow-up
question
to
that.
You
know
sending
them
information,
because
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
sort
of
voice
what
we
are
looking
to
do,
and
you
know
through
another
venue:
do
we?
How
do
we
want
to
go
about
it
like
do
something
formally
or
send
them
ideas
individually?
L
E
H
F
A
Okay,
I
really
just
want
to
know
what
an
overlay
thing
is
and
work
like
heck
to
get
arapa
wakers
covered.
I
mean
I
that
just
like
blew
my
mind.
Yeah
there.
K
The
I
know
wade
mentioned
it
was
about
2015
or
2016..
I
think
it
actually
may
have
been
a
little
bit
earlier
than
that,
because
I
remember
when
that
was
on
council
and
its
purpose
was
to
protect
the
homes
in
that
area.
If
I
remember
correctly,
there's
some
paraphrasing
here,
but
I
believe
that
was
to
protect
the
homes
in
that
area
from
the
medical
district
zoning
that
was
occurring
and
prevent
large
high
density.
You
know
medical
use
and
or
high
density
apartment
complexes
from
moving
in,
because
that
was
a
concern.
K
F
K
Values
their
property
value
would
drop.
I
believe,
well,
a
substantial
amount
as
a.
K
I
don't
know,
I
really
don't
know,
probably
not
now,
but
I
think
at
that
point
that
may
have
happened
right
now.
I
think
dairy
is
pretty
well
recovered,
but
they
there
was.
There
was
some
financial
analysis
that
somebody
had
brought
stating
that
it
would
be.
K
You
know,
granted
housing
values
are
a
lot
different
than
england
at
that
point,
but
I
think
they
said
somewhere
between
70
to
100
000,
for
something
like
that
lost
in
their
house.
A
K
K
In
addition
to,
like,
I
said
we're
on
the
record
right
now,
so
I
don't
want
to
paraphrase
too
much,
I'm
trying
to
remember
from
a
long
time
ago,
but
cj
would
be
worth
looking
up
the
history
of
those
city
council
minutes
back
back
to
that.
Thank
you
because
it
was
it
was.
It
was
really
an
interesting
discussion.
C
Currently,
if
we're
to
designate
a
historic
district,
we
have
to
have
two-thirds
of
the
people
in
the
district
agree.
But
a
historic
overlay
doesn't
happen
that
kind
of
requirement-
and
I
wish.
A
A
F
K
C
That
is
what
and
dave
questa
was
going
to
clarify
that
with
the
city
attorney
and
he's
not
here
to
tell
us
what
she
said.
A
D
And
I
know
dave
had
emailed
me
earlier
this
week,
along
with
the
city
attorney,
and
I
think
me
and
the
city
attorney
are
going
to
sit
down
and
just
kind
of
get
everything
in
order
in
mind
in
terms
of
what.
D
Be
in
this
situation
so
give
me
a
moment.
C
C
Establish
what's
already
established,
we
just
wanted
design
review
ability,
which
maybe
is
something
you
know
for
a
designated
building.
C
So
maybe
that's
something
we
should
poke
at
the
the
development
code.
People
instead
of.
D
So
something
to
keep
in
mind
that
I
just
thought
of
so
jason
had
emailed
me
a
couple
examples
of
landmark
protection
language
that
were
right
from
history
colorado
and
there
was.
There
was
two
types:
there
was
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
basic
protection
language,
and
then
there
was
kind
of
a
more
intense
protection
language,
and
so
my
thought
is
if
we
want
to
keep
the
ball
moving
on
this,
if
you
guys
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
two
sections
of
the
like
the
kind
of
it's.
D
What
I'm
looking
for,
like
example,
protection
protection,
landmark
language,
see
what
you
like
in
each,
what
you
don't
like,
or
what
you
don't
think
would
be
feasible,
and
then
you
could
bring
those
ideas
to
the
meeting
next
month
as
well.
So
if
we
have
like
kind
of
a
blend
of
the
two
documents
which
is
I'm
assuming
is
what
ultimately
is
gonna
move
forward
that
might
just
save
that
might
save
us
a
month.
C
H
So
I
think
I
think
eric's
talking
about
the
clg
draft
language
from
the
history
colorado
document.
That's
what
was
forwarded
to
the
city
attorney
for
review
on.
You
know
asked
him
to
look
at
what
what
level
of
review
he
thought
would
be
feasible.
So
I
don't
think
I
don't
know.
I
don't
think
it
was
like
research
from
what
other
people
were
doing.
I
think
it
was
from
that
draft
language
from
the
clg
program
at
history,
colorado.
D
Yeah,
because,
ultimately,
what
you're
going
to
want
to
bring
forward
to
the
attorney
is
the
language
like
you
know
you
want
to
pull
from
that
those
two
documents
and
anything
else
you
want
to
add,
and
ultimately
that's
what's
going
to
be
reviewed
by
the
city
attorney
so
by
having
by
giving
her
both
documents,
I
think
she
was
like
like
she.
I
don't
think
she
was
understanding
what
we
wanted
her
to
do,
or
what
the
what
the
goal
of
the
the.
D
Blanking
on
everything,
but
yeah,
so
I
mean
ultimately
that's
what
you're
going
to
want
to
bring
to
study
session
with
council
and,
what's
ultimately,.
D
D
D
No
because
the
I
don't
believe
the
city
attorney
really
grasps
what
we
were
asking
for,
which.
H
J
E
Yeah,
can
you
jason
or
whomever,
can
you
resend
those
two
different
documents
with
the
language.
E
A
C
No
thing
to
think
about
it,
so
we
can
come
up
with
a
draft.
A
H
L
Yeah,
it's
a
good
question.
I'm
trying
to
figure
that
out.
I
I
think
the
issue
is
we
didn't,
I'm
not
sure
we
submit,
we
didn't
submit
any
draft.
I
I
think
we
probably
why
we're
running
into
the
issue
is.
I
think
we
saw
some
general
comments
about
different
different
models
that
were
in
that
that
handbook
or
those
two
documents
that
jason
sent
out
and
it
didn't
it
didn't
result
in
anything
except
this
sounds
like
it
would
be
difficult
or
impossible
to
do.
I
think
the
sort
of
opinion.
C
Yeah
I
thought
we
presented
like
they
were.
It
was
one
that
was
stricter
than
the
other
and
the
milder
one
was
like
totally
harmless.
Really
I
don't
see
why,
but
we
apparently
didn't
ask
the
question
correctly
of
the
city
attorney,
so
she
thought
we
were
asking
to
rewrite
the
whole
like.
D
So
yeah,
if
you
want
to
take
those
two
documents
and
like
pull
what
you
like
from
each
one
and
and
you
know,
based
on
our
conversations
with
dave,
questa
and
council
kind
of
come
up
with
something
that
you
think
would
be
feasible
to
bring
before
council
and
that's
what
we
want
to
give
to
the
to
the
attorney.
K
K
But
basically,
what
you're
asking
for
eric
is
that
we
actually
have
a
draft
ready
by
next
meeting
to
vote
on.
Is
that
correct.
D
Let's
say
just
have
it
ready
for
discussion.
I
think,
if
we're,
if
we
have
like
both
the
documents
in
front
of
us
and
say
you
know,
have
your
notes
ready
to
go
and
say
I
like
this
and
this
and
this
and
just
kind
of
pull.
You
know
like
actively
pull
together
the
draft
during
the
next
meeting
and
just
have
it
structured
and
ready
to
go
and
to
see
if
there's
any
other,
additional
language
that
you
that
might
not
be.
F
C
C
Always
so
much
easier
when
we
could
sit
around
a
keyboard
and
fix
it
on
the
fly
everything's
a
little
slower
nowadays.
D
So,
while
I'm
on
so
moving
on
to
the
mapping
and
designation
neighborhood
mapping
and
designations
cj,
you
might
have
an
update
with
that.
Madeline
was
on,
but
she
had.
She
had
another
engagement
this
evening
that
she
had
to
run
for
so
for
her
updates
they're
working
on
creating
a
neighborhood
registration
process
that
will
be
finalized
in
the
coming
months,
working
with
the
historic
preservation
subgroup
to
create
a
starter
map
that
neighborhood
group
leaders
can
refer
to
when
drawing
neighborhood
boundaries.
D
D
A
Thank
you.
Sorry
I
mean
it
was
just
like
we
might
as
well
bring
it
up.
So
just
so,
you
know
so
we're
kind
of
calling
it
neighborhood
map
project
just
for
the
heck
of
it
right.
What
we
started
doing
I
met
with
elena
gosh.
Is
it
already
been
three
weeks
ago,
and
just
so
you
know
she's
a
ball
of
fire.
That's
awesome!
One
of
the
things
that
was
really
cool
was
that
she
helped.
I
brought
up
the
history
of
where
this
project
map
came
from
right.
A
The
gps
guy
at
the
arapahoe
county
helped
create
that
big
form.
We
kind
of
colored
it
to
try
to
see
where
our
historic
neighborhoods
are.
There's
bank
additions
here
and
then,
if
you
remember
mike
jones,
got
very,
very
detailed
right
to
where
he
was
looking
at
a
lot
and
in
that
lot,
what
district
was
it
in
and
finding
that
certain
houses
had
different
districts,
even
though
they
were
kind
of
in
the
same
neighborhood
or
yeah?
Is
that
the
right
word
district?
A
Whatever
it's
written
on
your
title
and
we
were
getting
very
mired
or
you
know,
just
lost
in
the
in
the
detail
in
the
minutia
and
so
in
talking
with
elena,
and
thank
goodness
she
bought
some
caffeine
for
me,
was
the
idea
that
what
where
I
was
going
was
too
narrow.
A
What
I
wanted
to
do
was
to
make
sure
that
these
people
knew
they
were
on
chicken
ranch
land
and
what
these
people
knew
was
that
they
were
on
the
heinz
carnation
land.
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
and
to
know
these
different
neighborhoods?
Well,
it's
not
that
pretty,
and
so
what
we
then
jumped
to
doing
was
collecting
all
the
different
maps
that
have
to
do
with
inglewood
and
number
one
you'd
be
surprised.
You've
got
the
police
map.
I
did
not
get
a
fire
map,
but
you
got
the
school
map.
A
You
got
the
park
map,
you
got
the.
What
do
you
call
it?
The
comprehensive
plan
map
you've
got
some
of
the
little
maps
that
madeleine
when
trying
to
find
out.
Where
are
the
neighborhoods,
where,
where
do
people
feel
they
have
a
sense
of
community
in
that
neighborhood,
and
so
the
way
that
we
met?
All
three
of
us
yesterday
was:
what
helena
helped
me
figure
out
was
what
I'm
looking
for
was
structure.
A
What
is
this
and
where
is
it
in
the
historic
and
then
madeleine's,
looking
more
for
culture
and
for
organic
aspect
that
may
change,
depending
on
the
dynamics
of
your
neighbors
in
this
50
house
area
or
this
12
house
area,
and
so
hers
is
a
little
more
again.
The
word
that
was
used
was
organic,
so
that's
the
history
we're
coming
from.
Take
it
away
helena
did
I
set
it
up
right.
G
I
don't
know
it's
such
a
complex
subject.
Really.
One
of
the
things
that
I
learned
yesterday
talking
with
madeline,
is
that
their
project
is
going
to
be
up
and
running
in
a
couple
months,
as
you
said,
but
that
just
is
the
beginning
of
it.
G
G
So
then
I
also
asked
you
know
what,
if
you
have,
let's
say
in
south
broadway
heights,
or
you
know
a
neighborhood
like
that.
You
have
a
lot
of
people
interested
in
this
initiative,
but
then
nobody's
interested
in
other
areas.
So
you
you
don't
have
designated
neighborhoods
for
parts
of
the
city
and
then
you've
got
all
this
overlapping
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
So
that's
when
we
were
like,
let's
do
a
starter
map.
That
way.
G
We've
got
some
kind
of
organization
that
this
program
is
rolling
out
with
some
structure,
so
100
of
the
city
is
mapped
out
so
that
if
people
don't
jump
on
day,
one
to
start
drawing
neighborhoods,
they
don't
exist
in
no
man's
land.
At
the
same
time,
they
there
there's
already
something
there,
and
so
also
to
to
speak
to
what
cj
is
saying.
G
Plan
the
comprehensive
plan
start
there
compare
it
with
the
district,
the
city
council
district
map,
because
one
thing
you
don't
want
is:
if
groups
of
neighborhoods
get
together
they're
going
to
want
to
have
the
same
council
member,
you
know
for
the
most
part,
so
try
and
make
reconcile
those
two
maps
only
and
then
the
comprehensive
planning
map
has
some
pretty
functional
names
like
medical
district
and
things
like
that,
and
that's
where
we
would
come
in
and
give
them
names
that
are
more
historically
accurate.
G
That
maybe
speak
to
the
larger
of
the
developments
for
that
area
or
just
something
very
intuitive,
and
that
will
be
the
starter
map
that
madeline's
group
works
off
of
it's
not
something
we
have
to
belabor,
because
ultimately,
any
group
of
residents
can
get
together
and
redraw
those
lines
at
any
moment
and
redraw
them
again
and
again.
Actually,
so
it's
not
something!
I
would
recommend
that
we
like
belabor,
but
it
would
be
a
good
starting
point
to
give
them
something
to
work
off
of.
G
Meanwhile,
what
we
want
to
do
with
all
of
the
research
that's
been
collected,
including
all
the
maps
that
cj
just
talked
about,
is
organize
and
classify
and
write
some
documentation
about
some
of
the
oral.
You
know,
history
that
came
from
out
of
madeleine's
research
and
be
able
to
keep
that
maybe
attach
it
to
each
of
these
starter
districts
and
then
find
a
way
to
digitally
archive
and
display
it
online
so
that,
at
the
very
least,
whatever
happens.
Moving
forward.
A
G
Possible
historical
map
interfaces
there.
A
G
G
But
what's
cool
is
that
it
will
archive
the
research
that's
been
done
and
that
we're
continuing
to
do,
but
it
also
will
create
a
display
that
is
an
asset
to
the
community
that
can
sit
on
the
website
and
again
it's
really
just
about,
because
all
these
decisions
are
being
made
and
people
are
very
connected
to
the
history.
But
we
can't
keep
it
all
together
and
sorted
out.
It's
just
not
feasible,
so
archiving
it
and
displaying
it.
E
I
think
that
sounds
really
great.
I
think
it's
a
yeah
good
idea
to
just
kind
of
start
with
what
we've
got
or
what's
already
kind
of
been
established
and
especially
to
try
and
align
the
boundaries
with
district
boundaries.
I
think
that
will
be
really
helpful
and
beneficial
like
in
the
future,
as
hopefully
these
neighborhoods
become
more.
I
don't
want
to
say
established,
but
you
know
people
come
to
recognize
these
neighborhoods
more
and
just
like
the
bringing
in
the
police
and
fire
maps.
H
K
G
Okay,
we'll
just
move
forward
we're
meeting
with
madeline
next
week,
we'll
probably
have
something
to
share
with
you,
maybe
that
starter
map
by
the
next
meeting-
and
you
know
we
should
all
agree
on
that
as
a
group
before
handing
that
off
to
madeline.
Officially
all
right
awesome
thanks
guys
cool.
C
Well,
let's
move
on
then
the
the
demolition
permit
wish
list
man,
I'm
glad
you
sent
that
out
in
advance
so
that
I
could
get
my
blood
pressure
back
down
again
after
reading
it.
K
C
K
A
lot
we
we
haven't
had
a
lot,
but
now
we
have
quite
a
bit
tonight.
I
don't
know
how
do
you
guys
want
to
address
this?
I
assume
most
most
folks
have
had
the
opportunity
to
read
read
through
the
the
points
that
were
raised,
and
I
don't
know
I
guess
we
can.
We
can
read
through
them
one
at
a
time
if
you'd
like
or
melinda
cj.
K
K
K
L
K
All
right
so
then,
for
the
benefit
of
discussion.
I
don't
know
melinda.
What
do
you
think
about
it?
I
want
to
hear
your
opinion
yeah.
C
I
already
told
you-
and
I
mean
you,
highlighted
her
some
of
her
questions.
You
know
it's
great
that
she
had
no
issue
with
a
few
things,
but
does
the
commission
know
of
any
structures
that
are
registered
well
duh,
we're
the
historic
preservation
commission?
Of
course
we
know
why.
C
We
have
six
that
are
they're,
actually
two
more,
that
the
state
shows
as
being
inglewood
but
they're,
actually
in
cherry
hills,
village
or
greenwood
village.
But
in
inglewood
we
have
arapahoe
acres.
As
a
district.
We
have
the
david
brown
house,
we
have
the
drensfeld
building,
that's
34
31
to
35
south
broadway.
It's
where
the
inglewood
herald
originally
was.
Oh.
K
C
K
You
email
that
over
for
everybody
on
the
board.
C
F
C
Right
yeah,
because
I'm
reading
this
into
the
record
okay
post
office
on
south
broadway,
that's
in
the
national
register
also
and
the
key
bank,
which
is
also
in
the
national
register.
You
already.
C
Oh,
I
did
well
no,
I
said
that
earlier,
but
that
that's
the
six
inglewood
locations
that
are.
A
C
And
it
is
in
fact
the
only
surviving
stucco
mission
style
depot
left,
all
the
others.
There
have
been
demolished.
It.
A
C
Well
and
apparently
the
the
post
office
also
is
you
know,
there's
the
mural
on
the
wall
in
there,
which
is
there
were
four
of
them
at
one
time,
but
now
this
this
is
one
left.
A
K
So
I
mean
to
move
on
the
next
yeah
I
mean,
so
we
need
to
get
her
the
list
of
that
so
she's
aware-
and
this
is
honestly
part
of
the
reason
for
this,
because,
honestly,
what
would
happen
if,
if
the
building
department
received
a
demolition
application
for
both.
F
K
And
then
so,
the
second
one
that
she
had
problems
with
or
had
questions
on
problems,
questions
on
survey,
site
plan
describing
detail,
the
structure,
structures
being
demolished.
She's
asking-
and
this
is
maybe
more
of
a
question
for
lauren
and
jason-
for
a
little
bit
of
help
on
what
is
normal
with
this.
Maybe
because
I
didn't
think
that
that
would
be
that
big
of
a
deal
but
she's
she's
saying.
Are
you
asking
for
a
full-blown
survey?
E
E
H
E
Of
the
property
just
a
line,
drawing
of
okay,
here's
the
main
house
here:
the
property
boundaries,
here's
maybe
a
garage
accessory
and
then
yeah.
Something
simple
like
that,
and
did
we
want
like
a
written
description
of
the
building
itself
or
would
that
be?
Is
that
not
something
we
were
looking
for
as
well?.
A
L
L
That
seems
pretty
simple
to
me
to
define
that
as
a
hey
describe
it
in
writing
type
of
deal
and
make
it
more
innocuous
that
we're
not
requiring
some
formal
survey.
And
then
you
know
the
later
the
color
photographs
I
not
to
jump
ahead,
but
it's
sort
of
related.
To
this
point
I
mean
I,
I
totally
disagree
with
that.
It's
with
iphones
and
everything
it's
it's
difficult
to
take
photographs
of
the
side
of
it.
If
those
weeds
and
it's
overgrown.
L
E
C
E
K
Well,
I
I
last
time
I
mean
last
time
I
built
anything
on
my
property
I
had
to
have
a.
I
had
to
have
a
survey
done
to
define
the
property
line.
K
A
And
again,
if
it's
just
a
matter
of
verbiage,
I
mean,
if
you're
going
to
talk
to
her,
you
can
easily
say.
Oh
obviously,
this
was
something
like
you
said,
a
buzzword,
yeah
and
just
see
where
she
comes
from.
When
you
mention
you
know,
we
just
wanted
a
document
that
we
can
archive
or
something
I
don't
know.
K
A
K
H
Yeah
I'm
like
I
said
I
recall
what
lauren
did.
I
think
we
for
that
we
even
talked
about
just
from
you
know
something
from
google
maps.
Just
a
you
know,
a
satellite
aerial
image
of
that.
If
I
I
recall.
C
No
we're
not
even
all
that
fussed
about
an
accessory
structure.
It's
the
primary
structure
that
concerns
us
most.
C
K
Okay,
notification
of
pending
demolition
to
neighboring
properties,
what
type
of
notification
postings
and
timeline
postings
and
timeline
would
be
great.
It's
something
that
I
mean.
This
is
the
benefit
of
informing
your
neighbors
that
something's
going
to
happen.
Your
block
is
about
ready
to
change
they're,
going
to
be
tearing
down
a
house
next
door
to
you.
A
K
C
A
D
F
D
Specific
size
sign
on
their
yard,
and
then
we
also
have
to
they
basically
basically
have
to
take
a
picture
of
it
and
then
bring
this
little
form
to
a
notary
to
have
it
signed
just
to
have
that
legal
evidence
that
the
property
had
been
posted.
So.
A
K
K
K
A
K
K
A
C
Well,
that's
why
we
want
a
design
review
yeah,
but
that's
the
other.
You
know
that's
another
issue,
but
but
really,
if
I
mean,
wouldn't
you
want
to
know,
if
they're
going
to
tear
down
the
house
next
to
you
and
probably
tear
down
your
fence
while
they're
at
it,
you
know
so
you
couldn't
at
least
you
know,
keep
your
dog
out
of
the
way.
A
K
I'd
say,
post
and
sign
for
zoning
similar
to
similar
to
our
same
as
zoning
variants
would
be
our
recommendation.
The
timeline
would
would
be
would
be
seems
reasonable
to
have
that
similar
as
10
days
prior.
A
I
printed
it
myself
because
I'm
that
cheap
and
and
put
it
up
myself,
but
it
still
cost
me
20
30
bucks
plus
time.
A
K
F
H
K
That
it's
happening
because
we
didn't
actually
specify
that
in
there
that's
a
pretty
valid
point.
But
but
it
also
notifies
your
neighbors
of
of
something
happening.
K
I
mean
what
I'm
going
to
do.
Is
I'm
going
to
do
a
little
research
here
and
see
what
other
cities
require
for
posting
if
it's
30
days
prior?
If
it's,
if
it's
10
days,
I
mean,
I
think,
with
this,
this
is
kind
of
swag
we.
This
is
what
we'd
like
to
see
we're
going
to
throw
this
at
council
and
see
what
they
like
see
what
they
don't
like
see.
K
K
Of
giving
I'm
sorry.
A
G
Get
out
there,
you
know
if
it's
closer
to
the
event
of
happening,
then
you're
less
inclined
to
forget
and
shelve
it
just
just
just
throwing
that
out.
There.
A
K
Historic
preservation
review
if
the
property
is
older
than
50
years,
not
sure
that
any
other
committee
etc
has
review
of
common
construction
practices.
Review
time
would
be
affected
and
how
would
the
commission
have
access
to
such
documents
to
review
access
to
the
city's
computer
systems
would
be
required,
so
this
could
become
an
I.t
concern.
K
Me
so
here's
what
I
got
from
no
other
committee
has
review
of
she's,
considering
a
demolition
as
a
common
construction
practice,
and
no
other
commission
has
review
of
that.
K
However,
it
is
well
documented
in
the
research
that
we've
done,
that
the
city
of
denver
does
have
that
in
the
review
process
that
the
city
of
golden
has
that
in
the
you
know,
what
was
support
these
other
cities
that
we
looked
at
most
of
them
that
had
a
historic
preservation.
Commission,
the
historic
preservation
commission
was
involved
in
the
process
if
it
was
of
certain
age,
property.
A
K
F
A
K
F
K
K
However,
there
is
also
a
community
attached
to
that
property
and
adjacent
to
that
property
and
having
notification
and
having
review
of
these
these
an
additional
review
time.
I
think
I
mean,
if
you're,
going
to
change
the
character
of
your
block
by
tearing
down
a
house
having
it
take
another
30
days
to
be
to
have
it
reviewed
and
approved.
K
I
think
your
your
neighbors
would
like
you
for
that.
Personally,
I
don't
know
what
do
you
think.
A
K
A
Was
the
main
thing
and
I
think
because
obviously
the
other
thing
is
is
we
know
we
could
say
really
don't
do
this?
Can
we
find
someone
else
to
do
this,
or
can
we
bring
in
some
historic
monies
to
help
you
save
it?
Well,
I
don't
know,
but
I
I
don't
think
we
were
going
to
approve.
I
think
it
really
was
just
notification.
K
Eric,
yes
yeah,
so
you
know
we
obviously
don't
have
any
teeth
when
it
comes
to
denying
this,
we
all
agree
to
that
right.
You
can't
we.
We
have
no
ability
unless
they
change
the
code
to
be
able
to,
inter
you
know,
intervene
on
any
demolition,
but.
C
D
Then,
if
somebody
were
to
come
in
and
want
to
demolition,
that's
when
you
start
having
the
ability
to
do
that
review
if
that
language
is
approved,.
K
So
we
would
have
to
have
access
to
the
city's
computer
system
to
get
access
to
the
information
of
a
demolition.
That's
becoming
further,
that's
been
that's
either
been
approved
or
pending.
D
It's
just-
and
I
don't
know
enough
about
this-
to
speak
to
this
confidently,
but
I
think
it's
just
because
of
user
rights
like
you
have
access
to
a
lot
of
information.
If
you
have
access
to
the
program,
I
think
that's
what.
A
D
C
Necessarily
but
for
instance,
I
got
the
the
most
recently
list
of
demolitions
from
the
city
and
I
I
just
send
in
a
request
and
say
this
is
the
the
the
information
I
need
and
like
the
city
clerk
passed
it
on
and
10
minutes
later
I
got
a
pdf
document
by
email.
It
was.
K
Well,
yeah,
and
that
has
that
information
has
to
be
recorded
somewhere
too,
but
data
construction-
I
guess,
is
where
that.
F
K
Yeah
we
asked
for
that,
but
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
answer
for
that,
but
I
mean
I
can.
I
can
cite
other
cities
that
that
have
review
over
the
process
and
clarify
that
we're
not
asking
for
approval.
We
just
need
notification.
K
K
Sorry,
if
the
society
wants
this
information,
a
list
of
features
and
materials
should
be
provided
to
check
off.
I
don't
know
what
that
necessarily.
K
C
E
K
K
All
right
that
was
easy
was
the
primary
structure
lived
in
prior
to
demolition
within
what
timeline
fairpoint
probably
was
lived
in
at
one
point
in
time.
A
L
H
C
K
I
think
I
think
occupied
is
probably
a
good
thank
you
for
that
cash.
That's
helpful
yeah,
let's
see
here
and
no
alterations
or
additions.
In
some
cases,
this
would
require
investigative
demolition,
which
would
be
time
and
cost.
A
So
all
again
we're
just
asking
for
a
picture
so
note
alteration
or
additions
in
the
building's
lifetime
in
the
isn't
that
what
we
were
just
asking
you
know
like.
So
this
was
a
regular
building
from
1920,
but
they
added
a
bathroom
onto
the
back.
They
added
a
porch
onto
the
front
right,
that's
kind
of
what
we
want
to
know
right.
A
A
I
mean
it's
interesting
to
me,
but
it
does
seem
like
this
was
kind
of
a
negative
hit
from
the
get-go.
You
know
like
what
are
things
that
I
don't
like
about
this
more
than
how
can
we
collaborate?
So
I
really
do
believe
after
we
talk
about
this
matt
you're
such
a
wonderful
personality
that
maybe
just
asking,
can
we
sit
down
over
coffee
and
just
talk
about
this?
Is
you
know,
so
it's
not
an
attack
and
then
trying
to
make
everything
so
minutia
controlled.
We
really
aren't
going
that
way.
K
I
I
can
see
in
some
ways
where
she
may
be
concerned
and
the
building
department
is
is
incredibly
overworked
right
now,
then
you
throw
on
kobit
and
then
you
throw
on
the
fact
that
they're
probably
a
little
understaffed
additional
work
like
this
may
be
seen
as
as
as
an.
K
Yeah
so.
G
I
mean
it
could
discourage
positive
improvements.
You
know
to
some
degree
I'm
just
saying
personally
how's
that
well
like
I
you
know
I
I
could
use
a
front
porch,
but
you
know
if
I
have
to
go
through
a
lot,
I
would
I
might
not
do
it
and
it
would
be
like
an
improvement
to
the
neighborhood.
All
the
other
houses
have
one.
I
don't
I
just
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there
like
it.
You
know
a
lot
of
improvements
are
for
the
better,
not
all.
G
So
if
you
take
something
off,
though,
to
put
something
if
you're
gonna
like
replace
it,
does
that
don't
you
still
have
to
go
through
this
like
if
you're
gonna
remove
like
like
I've,
got
neighbors
that
have
some
porches
that
could
be
done
better,
like
they
weren't
done
well
in
the
first
place.
So
if
they
are
going
to
remove
that
to
build
something
better,
they
have
to
go
through
this
process.
Correct.
K
D
F
K
In
fact,
my
next-door
neighbor-
decided
to
do
this
all
of
a
sudden
one
day,
there's
a
front
end
loader
sitting
in
your
neighbor's
front
yard
and
you,
while
you're
on
conference,
calls
you're
hearing
the
sound
of
a
house
being
torn
down
next
door
to
you
and
you
had
no
way
of
knowing
that
that
was
going
to
happen.
E
F
E
K
Best
possible
yeah
and
I'll
yeah
so.
A
F
K
Continue
this
offline
so
that
by
email,
so
we
don't
go
much
later
because
cash's
point!
Oh
my
god!
It's
been
two
hours
and
ten
minutes.
C
Right
I'll
compile
the
response
here.
Basically,
I've
gotten
to
the
last
new
item
or
old
item
of
as
the
rfp
for
the
purvey.
D
Yeah,
so
the
scope
of
work
for
bids
that
they
were
sent
out.
The
the
deadline
is
this
friday.
First
and
middles
we
actually
sent
it
out
to
six
different
companies.
Well,
I
should
say
five
companies
and
then
one
individual.
D
So
I've
only
heard
back
from
one
saying
that
they
were
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
so
otherwise,
hopefully
we'll
have
more
info
on
friday.
F
A
Is
doing
a
chart,
art
chuck
art
competition
this
weekend.
So
if
you
want
to
go
for
a
walk,
a
stroll
or
whatever
sunday,
one
to
three
we're
doing
the
judging
so
I
would
say
come
by
anytime
after
sunday,
you
know
after
one-
and
you
can
see
you
know
right
now
we
have
about
15
or
16
houses
that
are
going
to
have
uplifting
creative
and
colorful
chalk
art.
C
Well
and
the
historic
preservation
society
is
having
a
picnic
in
the
park
on
saturday.
Are
they
not.
K
That
is
correct.
Thank
you
for
the
reminder
on
that.
We're
gonna
send
out
the
email
here
we
are
having
a
picnic
in
the
park
to
meet
folks
and
just
reconnect
with
our
membership
or
anybody
else
interested
in
history.
Bates
logan
park
saturday
september
19th
from
11
30
a.m
to
1
30
pm
it's
logan
park.
Do
you
want
to
come
stop
on
bob.
G
K
G
A
C
Well,
we
could
read,
it
can
be
downloaded
too.
So
true,
that's
true
we're
just
you
know,
sharing
links
or
things
like
that.