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A
B
A
B
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C
Yeah
and
back
there
it's
not
a
dry
cold.
So
it's
my
family
has
an
ongoing
joke
with
the
when
my
parents
first
moved
here,
my
dad
was
from
virginia
and
he
asked
my
mom.
Doesn't
it
get
cold
in
colorado
and
she
told
him?
Well
yes,
but
it's
a
dry
cold,
so
you
don't
notice
it
and
a
year
or
so
later
they
one
of
the
worst
winners
in
history
that
and
he
had
just
come
in
from
shoveling
off
the
porch
roof.
C
So
now
it's
a
it's.
A
dry
cold
is
a
a
joke
phrase
in
our
family
man.
A
C
C
Degrees,
but
what's
that
norwegian
expression,
there's
no
such
thing
as
bad
weather,
just
poor
clothing
choices
so.
F
C
Well,
being
a
a
spinster,
I
have
lots
of
wool,
so
I
have
wolves
socks
and
walls,
sweaters
and
all
of
those
things.
C
It's
the
the
miracle
fiber
when
it
gets
wet
it
gives
off
heat
so.
G
Sorry
guys
I
there
we
go
had
to
help
cj
get
connected.
A
Okay,
so-
and
I
know
lauren
had
emailed
me
earlier
today
and
said
she
was
not
gonna-
be
able
to
make
it
tonight,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started
linda.
If
you'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order.
C
Yes,
let's
come
to
order,
I
have
it
at
6,
34
p.m
and
eric
do
you
want
to
call
the
roll.
A
I
will
call
the
roll
all
right,
chair,
melinda
ellsworth
here
vice
chair
jason,
o'brien.
H
A
Okay,
we'll
come
back
to
cash
if
he
happens
to
come
back
in
helene
federiche.
D
A
All
right,
council,
member
dave
cuesta
president
and
staff,
eric
sampson
and
staff
madeline.
Thank
you.
C
We'll
approve
the
minutes.
Yeah
we
have
two
sets
of
minutes
to
approve.
First
was
our
regular
meeting
on
january
20th.
C
E
I
do
not,
I
would
move
to
approve
both
minutes,
as
is.
H
B
B
B
A
A
Okay,
so
moving
on.
A
H
G
Cj
was
having
trouble
with
the
link
just
a
little
bit
ago,
and
I
think
there
may
be
a
problem
with
the
link
again.
G
I
could
I
could
do
that.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
figure
out
what
the
problem
is
here.
I
think
the
problem
is
the
link
itself.
Okay,
so
that
works.
It
wasn't
me,
I
don't
think
it
was
you.
I
think
this
happened
once
before
with
the
link.
I
could
be
wrong
in
it,
but
is
it
getting?
Is
he
getting
an
error?
What
is
he
getting
when,
when
he
changes.
I
Had
to
click,
it
said
invalid,
and
then
I
had
to
click
join
as
an
attendee.
G
The
passcode
this
time
so
I
believe
in
the
email,
the.
G
Oh
well,
if
he's
on
his
computer,
maybe
I'll
just
email,
the
link
that
I
emailed
you
to
him.
J
J
J
C
No
public
of
our
modifications
to
16
611,
I
believe.
A
Yes,
alex
is
here
to
discuss
the
landmark
protection
language
and
moving
forward
with
code,
rewrites
and
whatnot.
B
F
J
Well,
so
what
I
my
goal
in
coming
here
and
talking
to
all
of
you-
is
really
give
you
the
framework
for
how
you,
as
a
board
and
commission,
can
best
operate
and
best
work
within
the
sort
of
charge
you're
given
by
the
city
council,
and
so
I
think,
oftentimes
gets
confused
for
borden's,
commission
boards
and
commissions.
Is
you
feel
like
you
have
to
do
all
of
the
work?
J
If
you
will
in
anything
you
want
to
bring
forward,
you
have
to
figure
out
the
language
and
the
legalese
and
that's
a
that's
a
real
misnomer,
your
job
as
a
boarding
commission.
The
best
analogy
I
can
come
up
with
is
your
well.
It
probably
doesn't
work
anymore,
since
we
don't
do
this
as
much
anymore,
but.
J
You
can
have
discussions
with
the
chef
about
how
you
want
it
prepared
and
things
like
that,
but
the
actual
preparation
comes
down
to
typically
the
city
attorney's
office,
especially
we're
looking
at
code
changes,
which
I
believe
what
you're
looking
at
with
this
historic
preservation
with
your
historic
preservation
code
amendments.
J
So
the
most
efficient
way
for
this
to
happen
is
for
you
to
talk
and
decide
how
you
want
historic
preservation
to
work
in
it.
Don't
worry
about
the
magic
language,
and
certainly
I
can
assist
with
that
and
we
can
discuss
it,
but
don't
let
that
be
the
thrust
of
what
you're
doing
and
worrying
about
the
specific
language,
because
that's
my
burden.
H
J
J
You
know,
no,
no,
I'm
blanking
on
any
specific
order
from
a
restaurant,
but
I
you
know,
I
want
a
medium
rare
flank
steak
with
some
sort
of
sauce
on
it
and
lately
so
maybe
some
green
beans-
and
I
say
well,
you
could
do
we
could
do
it
these
number
of
ways.
Then
we
sort
of
back
and
forth
and
then
once
you
have
those
ideas
together,
you
go
to
city
council
and
say
hey.
J
H
J
Certainly,
I
know
and
see
what
I
got
from
forward
by
staff
was
basically
a
well
it's
a
relatively
wri
and
to
be
to
be
frank,
relatively
well
written
piece
of
code.
But
what
I,
what
is
helpful
to
get
is
what
you
actually
want
the
code
to
say
what
your
goals
are
and
discuss
and
to
discuss
those
in
really
sort
of
basic
terms
and
then
flesh
out
from
there,
and
I
apologize
because
I
know
that
I
can.
I
would
certainly
feel
a
piranha
and
so
wait.
Why
do
we
go
through
all
that?
J
And
I
sincerely
apologize
for
that
and
that's
that
is
not
I
don't
want
to.
I
certainly
don't
want
to
fault
anyone
if
any,
if
it
should
be
anyone's
fault,
it's
my
office
because
we
should
have
done
more
robust
training
with
boards
and
commissions
and
with
with
liaisons
from
staff,
because
a
lot
of
times
they
are
just
sort
of
assigned
to
that
and
they're
doing
the
best
that
they
can.
So
I,
if
there's
any
fault
it's
with
my
office,.
F
Alex
briefly
so
this
conversation
had
begun
initially
with
city
city
attorney,
mckinney
brown,
you
know
your
predecessor,
so
I
I
can
support
you,
those
communications
as
well,
and
it
might
shed
some
light
here.
I
you
know.
I
think
that
this
group,
I
think
this
group
followed
the
process
as
they
were
instructed
with
mr
kenny
brown,
and
so
I'd
like
to
get
that
over
to
you.
F
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you
think
it's
a
well-written
communication,
because
I
thought
it
was
great
too,
but
I
understand
if
you
want
to
touch
it
up,
I
mean
to
me
the
end
goal
here
should
be.
Can
we
get
the
will
of
this
group
through
council?
F
What
language
would
best
suit
that,
and
if
that
means,
we
still
need
to
do
some
fine-tuning
I'd.
Rather
we
get
it
to
a
place
that
we
can
get
it
through.
Council
I
mean,
even
if
that
takes
a
little
bit
more
time,
which
again
this
group
has
been
a
you
know
plenty
of
meetings
on
it
and
been
diligent
about
it
more
time
on
it.
But
again,
if
end
goal
is
passing
counsel,
you
know
that
would
still
be
my
objective
in
getting
the
will
of
mr.
G
Completed,
okay,
sorry
go
ahead
alex
so,
if
I'm
kind
of,
if
I
understand
and
translating
correctly
with
what
what
you're,
what
you're
saying
is
that
getting
the
actual
code,
language
itself
leaves
out
some
context,
context
that
they
could
assist
with
you
know,
terminating
the
the
statements
and
making
sure
that
things
are
properly
understood
that
they're
going
into
the
code
is
that
right,
matt?
That
is
exactly
right!
G
Okay,
so
another
interesting
thing,
though,
about
our
commission
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
very
talented
people
on
here
that
have
a
lot
of
history
and
experience
with
the
historic
preservation
commission
commissions
and
other.
Oh,
it's
been
a
long
day,
I'm
the
same
brain
fart.
You
did
a
little
bit
ago
here,
but
other
experience
with
historic
organizations.
That's
that
was
what
I
was
trying
to
try
to
find.
So
what
we
did
is
we
actually
researched.
G
We
kind
of
went
around
to
the
solutions
that
other
organizations
and
other
cities
and
other
places
had
come
to
and
then
incorporated
that
in.
I
think
we
could
potentially
I'm
not
speaking
for
the
rest
of
the
commission
here,
but
we
could
provide
context
around
each
one
of
the
each
one
of
the
entries
we
have
in
there.
But
you
know
a
lot
of
the
research
that
was
done
was
based
upon
experience.
E
E
You
know,
including
you
know,
cash
and
some
other
people
looked
at
a
lot
of
comparative
cities,
but
then
also
one
thing:
I
kind
of
what
I
drew
from
most
a
lot
was:
there's
template
language
from
history
colorado,
which
is
where
I
work
for
their
certified
local
government
program
and
so
yeah
that
was
kind
of
where,
where
that
stuff
came
through,
if
it
looked
pretty
good,
it
was
because
it
was
a
lot
of
copy
and
paste
type
stuff.
You
know,
certainly
from
my
end
but
yeah.
E
I
guess
kind
of
you
know
how
matt
framed
it
too,
with
context.
I
think
it's
you
know
what
we've
been
working
through
as
far
as
you
know,
maybe
we
start
kind
of
started
with
specifics
of
code
language,
but
you
know
that's
that
was
that
was
also
you
know,
kind
of
ourselves
working
through
what
we
wanted.
So
I
think
it
would
be
relatively
easy
to
provide
you
some
kind
of
context
on
what
those
more
specific
areas
kind
of
what
we're
driving
towards.
J
J
I've
I've
certainly
been
in
positions
with
whether
with
other
things,
even
written
by
you
know
likely
and
usually
written
by
attorneys
that
are
a
lot
less
poorly
written
and
a
lot
less
thought
out
and,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
this
has
to
be
scrapped
or
I'm
not
saying
any
of
that.
Really.
J
If
the
whole
goal
is,
can
we
take
what
the
intent
of
your
recommendations
are
meaningfully
present
them
to
city
council
and
then
city
council
can
make
whatever
decision
city
council
wants,
although
to
be
frank,
typically
city
council
really
respects
the
work
done
on
boards
and
commissions,
and
if
it's
presented
in
a
meaningful
way,
city
council
goes
okay.
Well,
we
will
adopt
things
unless
we
have
a
real
problem
with
them,
and
then
it
comes
back
to
me
to
rewrite
it.
J
But
the
goal
is
never
to
the
goal
is
to
take
what
your
thoughts
are
and
what
city
council's
decision
is
and
then
make
it
into
both.
Something
that's
legally
that's
holds
up
legally
and
also
is
something
that
can
be
used
by
the
common
or
non-legally
oriented
citizen
to
understand
what
the
expectations
are.
J
We
certainly
can
and
so
and
if,
if
what
you
have
is
what
you
are
happy
with,
I
looking
at
I'm
not
saying
there's
a
problem
with
that.
J
J
You
know,
staff
says
there's
an
issue
with
this
or
there
may
be
a
legal
issue
with
that,
and
I
I've
read
it,
but
I
haven't
read
it
with
the
the
specific
fine-tooth
comb
only
because
I
knew
I
was
going
to
come
here
today
and
be
able
to
talk
to
you
and
make
sure
that
I
understood
what
your
goals
in
writing.
It
are
because
I
didn't
you
know
I
didn't
want
to
spend
the
hours
necessary
to
go
through
it.
D
Alex
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
I
didn't
contribute
a
lot
to
the
writing,
because
there
is
so
much
talent
in
the
commission,
and
everybody
was
really,
I
think,
did
an
excellent
job.
Writing
it,
but
the
whole
time.
I
think
everyone
was
acknowledging
that
it
would
eventually
have
to
go
through
city
council
and
go
through
legal
muster.
I
don't
think
anybody
ever
thought.
We
just
wrote
code
and
it
was
going
to
be
it's
done.
D
I
think
we
are
aware
of
that
process
actually
and
so,
and
I
think
that,
because
we
have
so
many
talented
people
on
the
commission
lauren's
not
here,
but
she
has
an
advanced
degree
in
historic
preservation.
Matt
is
the
president
of
the
inglewood
historic
society,
so
we
do
have.
All
of
that.
I
think
there
was
just
some
initiative
taken
to
be
as
clear
as
possible,
instead
of
just
speaking
in
generalities,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
because
I
remember
we
talked
about
city
council
taking
you
know,
passing
it
through
them
throughout
the
process.
J
And
that-
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
not
faulting
anyone
or
I
mean
in
many
ways
I'm
in
some
ways
trying
to
trying
not
to
come
in
and
say:
okay,
we
gotta
do
this,
because
that's
not
the
point
at
all.
My
point
is
to
understand
your
goals
in
writing
this
and
then
and
then
read
through
what
you've
written
and
make
sure
that
it
meets
those
goals,
because
it's
not
my
place
to
have
any
position
about
how
historic
preservation
should
go.
J
You
all
are
far
more
experienced,
you've
put
more
effort
into
it
and
it's
really
council's
ultimate
job
to
make
that
decision,
but
please
don't
hear
any
fault
or
anything
else.
The
only
message
I
want
to
give
is:
I
can
help
you
and
that
oftentimes
and
this
this
isn't
the
best
example.
Because
again,
when
I
look
at
what
you've
written
it,
it's
scholarly
but
oftentimes
work.
Sometimes
boards
and
commissions
will
get
bogged
down
in
arguing
over
the
legalese
when
that's
not
really
the
role
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
that's,
what's
really
happened
here.
J
That
would
be
absolutely
fine
with
me,
that's
and
that
I
can
and
I'm
very
open
to
that
and
in
the
end,
what
there's
there's?
No,
you
know,
there's
no
reason
why
it
can't
work
that
way,
because,
ultimately,
the
goal
is
to
send
something
to
council
and
say
this
is
the
this
is
it
could
be
done
one
of
two
ways:
it
can
either
be
done
through
study
session
and
asking
council's
opinion
on
it
or
it
can
be.
J
For
these
reasons,
it's
not
going
to
go
very
far
with
council,
because
at
the
very
least
council
is
going
to
want
to
sort
of
parse
through
all
of
that,
the
you
know
the
best.
The
best
way
is
to
start
is
when
you
come
through
with
this
is
what
staff
wants.
This
is
what
historic
preservation
wants.
This
is
what
the
goal
of
this
is,
and
then
you
have
a
very
clear
message:
you're,
giving
to
council
and
council
again.
C
And
gives
some
background
if
you
will
that
original
ordinance
that
established
the
historic
preservation
commission
was
written
a
number
of
years
before
the
city
actually
got
around
to
establishing
the
commission
and
when
it
was
written,
they
really
didn't
know
what
a
commission
would
be
doing
or
was
supposed
to
do
just
that
they
thought
well,
they
ought
to
have
one
when,
when
we
formed,
we
started
out
by
well
establishing
our
bylaws,
but
also
our
our
goals
and
objectives.
C
Of
what
we
wanted
to
be-
and
this
is
pretty
much
an
outgrowth
of
our
goals
and
objectives-
and
we
realize
that
ordinance
is
like
way
out
of
date
and
has
no
teeth
in
it,
and
so
we
pretty
much
did
all
of
this
because
we'd
like
a
little
more
say
in
and
and
we're
not
asking
for
the
moon.
Just
you
know
if
we've
designated
something
as
a
historic
landmark
we'd
like
to
for
them
to
ask
our
approval
before
they
tear
it
down.
C
And
would
any
of
the
others
agree
with
that
or
disagree
that.
B
G
F
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
guess,
procedurally
moving
forward
if
the
group
is
comfortable
with
jason
speaking
with
the
city
attorney,
I
wouldn't
mind
sitting
in
either
so
that
when
this
does
get
to
council,
I
I
can
make
sure
that
I'm
I'm
messaging
correctly
and
getting
every
everything
across
as
well
as
I
can.
But
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
is
comfortable
that
if
it's
just
jason
or
if
other
folks
would
care
to
join
as
well,
I
I
imagine
it's
an
open
forum
for
whoever
would
like
to.
J
The
only
issue
with
additional
people
beyond
two
is
that
it
didn't
create.
It
creates
an
open
meeting
issue
which
is
fine.
We
could
schedule
it
as
a
meeting
and
that
may
be
a
better
way
of
doing
it,
and
just
with
this
specific
goal
of
having
jason
dave
and
eric
walk
me
through
the
goals
of
it,
and
have
me
ask
questions,
I
would
the
only
again
the
only
concern
being
open
meeting
if
we
have
a
number
of
attendees,
which
is
fine.
J
F
Certainly
not
a
secret.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
everybody
else's
thoughts.
I
don't
mind
that
then
it
just
does
create
the
public
record.
It's
something
we
can
point
to.
Is
it's
in
front
of
council
and
move
towards
council.
It's
opposed
to
yeah,
I
don't
know
dave
and
alex
and
jason
spoke
somewhere
sometime,
so
it
might
put
just
a
bit
more
of
an
official
stamp
on
it.
F
And
now
I
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
cj,
I'm
thinking
this
takes
place
ahead,
and
I
again
I
I
invite
other
thoughts
or
direction
here.
I'm
thinking
this
takes
place
ahead
of
the
study
session
so
that
we've
got
it
orderly
and
again.
You
know
I've
hopefully
got
the
messaging
down
to
that
we're
looking
to
get
across
and
not
that
it's
a
it's
a
finished.
Well,
I
guess
it's
just
finish
the
draft
as
we
can
present,
and
then
we
see
what
council
has
to
say
and
then
adjust
from
there
is.
F
Is
that
what
you
guys
were
thinking
as
well
or
cj?
Do
you
think,
would
you
prefer
we
take
it
in
its
current
form
to
council
and
then
meet
with
city
attorney
after
getting
feedback
from
council.
J
I
would
definitely
prefer
to
meet
first,
because
what
frequently
happens,
especially
with
things
that
have
a
legal
implication,
is
someone
on
council
asks
me
a
question
and
I
can
address
the
legal
issue.
But
if
we
have
a
conversation
first
then
I
know
what
the
focus
of
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
is.
So
I
can
answer
that
question
much
more
meaningfully.
F
And
I
should
say
this
too:
it's
it's.
I
am
happy
to
go
either
way
and
it's
certainly
it's
it's
the
commission
of
the
citizens
and
you
you
guys,
should
certainly
decide
how
you'd
like
to
proceed
either.
One
is
certainly
fine
to
me
meeting
prior
to
council
and
then
you
know
fine-tuning
wherever
we
might
need
to
or
waiting
for
council's
points
and
then
in
that
fine-tuning
afterwards
I
mean
there's
the
chance
that
if
we
fine-tune
it
enough,
it
might
go
through.
F
D
A
Well,
I
think
a
study
session
as
well
when
it
finally
goes
to
study
session
before
council.
That
should
be
a
litmus
test
to
see
how
council
is
going
to
react
to
some
of
that.
The
landmark
protection
language.
E
No,
that
would
work,
and
you
know,
as
far
as
kind
of
you
know,
just
kind
of
noting
scheduling
wise
to
you
know.
Teleworking
obviously
gives
me
a
little
more
flexibility
when
when
to
meet,
so
I
know
that
you
know
three
of
you
are
all
busy
and
have
other
responsibilities
do
for
you
know
the
city
wise,
but
yeah.
E
If
there's
something
like,
I
don't
know
how
you
guys
usually
do
things
if
there's
like
a
doodle
poll
or
something
or
try
to
nail
something
down,
but
with
the
exception
of
conflicting
meetings,
I
should
be
pretty
flexible
on
when
I
could
do
that.
G
E
Yeah,
I
guess
trying
to
think
the
best
way
you
know
you
know
we
have
minutes,
but
it
may
be
kind
of
worthwhile.
Perhaps
if
there's
a
way
to
see
kind
of
thoughts
on
those
specific
things
we
put
into
the
the
code
revision
that
we're
looking
for
that
people
were
kind
of
hoping
for
you
know
we.
E
I
know
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
again
kind
of
say
on
design
review
and
things
like
that,
but
yeah,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
would
be
the
most
yeah
assistance
and
making
sure
I've
represented.
Anything
good
would
be
helpful.
I'm
just
trying
to
think
the
best
way
to.
F
Well
and
jason,
I
like
the
point
you're
making
there
and-
and
you
know
I
I
hope
the
group
isn't
feeling
too
discouraged
here-
I'm
hoping
that
this
does
go
in
front
of
alex
and
we're
not
bringing
back
a
different
document.
It's
pretty
similar
to
what
we've
got
now.
We've
we've
again,
just
maybe
fine-tuned
a
few
things
if
there
any
are
drastic
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
I'd
almost
prefer.
It
comes
back
to
this
group
before
council
so
that
everybody
is
coming.
F
If
we
need
to
now,
let's
find
something
that
is
just
let's
say
just
out
of
whack,
but
just
you
know
quite
different
from
what
we've
how
it's
been
written
so
far.
You
know.
I
want
this
group
to
be
comfortable,
of
course,
before
we
go
before
council,
and
is
it
still
getting
across
the
mission
that
we're
trying
to
get
to
here.
So
to
me
I
think
it'd
be
worth.
I
mean
I
don't
know
how
we
can.
F
Maybe
we
can
do
that
through
email,
I'm
getting
a
bit
out
of
my
realm
here
in
terms
of
the
open
meetings,
and
we
just
circulate
that
after
we
meet.
I.
J
Give
you
a
list
of
questions,
but
then
we
meet
with
those
questions
to
make
it
more
efficient
and-
and
I
am
in
complete
agreement
with
you-
councilmember
requested
it.
If
there's
fine-tuning
things,
that's
one
thing,
but
if
it's
a
you
know,
if
I
say
to
jason,
this
really
can't
be
done
that
way
and
jason
says:
well,
that's
really
the
way
we
want
it.
It
has
to
come
back
to
you
to
your
group,
because
now
it's
not
the
document
that
you
proposed
and
so
and
I'm
happy
to
sort
of
explain
why?
J
Because
I
think
you
deserve
the.
Why
it's
you
know
there's
it's
certainly
unavailing
to
get
a
you
can't
do
this
sort
of
shutdown
and
then
not,
and
I
and
I
there's
nothing
that
I
saw
on
going
through
it.
But
again
it's
it's
a
long
enough
document
where
I
don't
want
to
say
with
absolute
confidence,
but
there's
certainly
nothing
that
jumped
out
when
I
said
where
I
thought
you
absolutely
cannot
do
this
legally,
but
I
also
want
to
be
able
to
have
the
conversation
about.
This
is
the
legal
effect
of
this.
J
So
this
is
what
I
will
tell
council
or
if,
if
council
asks,
I
will
say
this
about
this
specific
point
so
that
you
also
know
what
you're
setting
up.
But
I
don't
I
didn't
see
anything
that
is
a
deal
breaker
from
the
start.
Where
I
were,
I
would
be
in
the
in
the
position
telling
council
this
is
illegal.
J
If
you
pass
this,
there's
nothing
like
that,
but
there's
there
may
be
things
that
we
go
through
where
well,
we
don't
want
to
presuppose
anything
or
you
know,
go
too
far
without
having
gone
without
speaking
of
sp
without
speaking
in
specifics,
but
I
think
that
if
we
do
get
to
a
point
where
it
doesn't
feel
the
same
anymore,
it
has
to
come
out.
F
Well,
in
cj,
I
know
that
you've
highlighted
how
much
work
this
group
has
put
in,
and
it's
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
again.
I
think
that
that
speaks
to
how
I
think
we
polish
this
document
is
now
so
in
terms
of
timeline.
I
was
thinking
that
this
group
might
even
be
able
to
get
into
one
of
the
march
study
sessions.
F
Let's
say,
though,
that
we
met
with
alex
between
now
in
our
next
meeting,
and
then
this
group
can
meet
again
with
all
the
suggested
revisions
that
alex
might
have
at
our
march
meeting
and
then
that
we
aim
for
getting
in
front
of
council
before
april.
That
to
me
would
be
one
potential
timeline,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that
pushes
things
out
further
than
this
group
would
like.
F
Yeah
I
raised
in
january
that
we
would
like
to
get
in
front
of
council
for
a
study
session
and
then
that
raised
that
annually
we're
supposed
to
meet
with
all
boards
and
commissions.
Let's
start
getting
those.
I
asked
that
this
commission
ended
up
in
the
front
end
of
scheduling,
preferably,
and
then
the
thought
was
that
we
would
begin
that
in
march.
So
that's
I
think
I
can
still
push
that
back
to
april.
F
If,
then,
that
would
give
us
a
time
review
with
the
city
attorney,
we
have
our
scheduled
meeting
in
march.
Go
over
any
revisions
that
alex
has
and
then
hopefully
present
before
study
session
in
april.
F
And
you're
right
clean
that
none
of
this
stuff
moves
too
quickly
and
you
know
there's
two
study
sessions
a
month,
so
you
can
get
pushed
back
to
the
following
month,
pretty
quickly.
D
Do
we
have
to
like
vote
on
starting
that
process
for
a
study
session,
or
how
do
we
what's
the
first
step
to
getting
that
ball
rolling.
F
I
would
say-
and
this
is
just
and
I
I
would
invite
the
perspective
of
staff
here
to
me-
it's
just
you
guys-
think
we're
ready
to
go.
Dave
go
tell
council
that
we
want
the
next
slot
that's
available.
It's.
H
C
Well,
ed,
I
mean
that,
would
it's
our
time
before
the
council,
then
we
present
our
work
and
and
not
just
the
ordinance
but
like
you
say,
the
scared
house
and
cinderella
city
and
our
historic
maps
and
everything
else
so.
G
Is
it?
Is
it
advisable
to
do
it
all
at
once?
If
we've
got
a
big
thing
on
the
agenda,
though,
because
I
mean
dave
alex-
I
mean
that's.
Obviously
we
want
the
legal
language
to
be
correct
and
I
don't
know
I
guess,
there's
two
parts
to
this,
but
I'll
I'll
start
with
that.
One.
F
Well,
I
I
guess
it's
just
more
to
procedurally
for
the
meeting.
How
much
time
can
we
get
and
then
does
that
give
us
enough
time
to
cover
the
topics
just
outlined,
and
then
how
do
we
give
you
up
that
time,
and
I
know
that
that
can
those
are
hard
to
do
rigidly
once
you
get
in
front
of
council,
it
can
shift
a
little
bit
but
I'd.
Let
me
reach
out
to
it's.
F
It's
the
mayor
and
mayor
pro
tem
that
do
the
scheduling,
so
let
me
reach
out
to
them
this
week
and
just
see
what
they
have
in
mind
for
each
group,
including
each
group
boarding
commission
that
comes
in
front
of
them,
and
let
me
ask
you
guys
this:
do
you
have
any
idea
of
it
in
a
perfect
world?
How
much
time
you
might
need
to
cover
all
those
subjects
it
might
be
hard.
Yesterday,
30
minutes.
C
At
least
the
last
time
we
presented
to
council,
we
we
were
allotted
30
minutes
and
because
there
was
so
many
other
things
going
on
that
jumped
in
front
of
us,
we
were
squeezed
into
like
20
minutes
and
really
didn't.
I
think,
get
a
chance
to
do
a
very
effective
presentation
that,
with
all
of
those
things,
I
would
like
us
to
have
I'll
say:
45
minutes.
F
D
D
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
too
much
kind
of
going
on
if
there's
gonna
be
any
work
done
on
the
code
part
like
if
I
think
peop
everybody
needs
to
be
focused
on
that
in
a
way-
and
it's
I
don't
know
if
you
can
do
all
four
by.
C
C
So
it's
an
up
or
down
vote
for
council.
Is
that
not
correct
dave.
F
Yeah,
so
I
I
think,
there's
one
of
two
possibilities
coming
out
group
presents
the
language
as
everybody
agrees
to
it,
and
council
says:
okay,
it
looks
good.
We
like
it
pling
it,
please
bring
it
before
a
formal
meeting
and
then
it
would
get
its
two
votes.
You
know
first
hearing
second
hearing
or
there
might
be
the
request
that
can
we
tweak
this?
Can
we
change
that
and
then
in
many
cases
those
changes
are
made
and
then
it
just
goes
before
council.
F
There
isn't
another
study
session
unless
it's
something
that
it's
really
a
deeper
issue
and
council
feels
they
need
more
information,
then
it
could
trigger
a
second
study
session,
but
one
way
or
another
if
it's
small
changes
or
they
like
it
as
presented,
it
should
just
move
forward
to
that
regular
meeting.
D
Is
it
possible
just
as
an
alternate
path
to
have
two
study
sessions,
one
dedicated
to
the
code
and
then
the
other
for
the
cinderella,
city
and
landmark
discussion
and
map
discussion?
Just
two
separate
meetings.
F
I
do,
I
don't
think
that's
too
big
a
request,
I'll
that
put
that
request
to
the
mayor
pro
tem
in
mayor
when
we
conclude
this
evening.
I
don't
think
that's
too
many
requests.
Let
me
ask
you
this
of
the
two.
I
assume
we'd
want
to
get
the
code
language
in
front
of
council
first,
if
they
say
you
know,
in
terms
of
scheduling
with
your
priority,
is
it
safe
to
say
that's
the
priority
of
the
group?
Okay,
okay,
very
good!
F
C
Thanks,
I
think
things
like
this
garrett
house
designation
doesn't
really
need
to
go
to
a
study
session.
First,
it's
just.
It
was
just
a
work
product.
B
D
F
D
If
we're
waiting
till
april
for
the
code
meeting,
even
though
it's
a
bigger
priority,
would
we
would
we
be
able
to
meet
sooner
about
the
other
issues?
And
I
don't
know
what
the
timeline
is
or
what
the
urgency
is
for
cinderella,
cinderella
city.
So
if
we
weren't
meeting
till
april
about
code
and
we
were
intentionally
placing
that
after
would
we
be
in
any
kind
of
jeopardy
of
being
too
late
to
have
our
presentation
about
that?
You
know.
F
I'm
I'm
a
bit.
I
say
this
sheepishly.
I
am
not
entirely
sure
of
the
cinderella
city
timeline
as
well.
That
has
really
been
a
moving
target
and
there's
been
different
conversations
with
different
groups
that
have
various
interests
for
it.
Eric
offhand.
Do
you
know
where
that
happens
to
stand?
I
know
it's
been
brad
doing
a
lion's
share
of
the
work
on
that.
A
Yeah,
that's
been
a
lot
of
brad
and
john
vorberl,
our
long-range
planner,
and
the
last
I
heard
they
were
going
to
try
to
get
it
rezoned
to.
I
think,
an
mub1
district
don't
hold
me
to
that,
but
that
is
the
last
that
I've
heard
about
that
project.
So
I
know
it's
not
moving
ahead.
It's
not
going
full
speed
ahead
by
any
means,
so
there
would
be
time
for
in
the
future,
for
you
guys
to
present
your
thoughts
on
the
cinderella,
city
and
the
history
surrounding
it.
F
And
that's
a
good
point,
you
know
I
I
certainly
nothing
imminent
coming
before
council
there'd
be
several
hearings.
You
know.
I
think
that
there
would
be.
You
know
public
comment
sessions
just
independent,
so
I
would
imagine
any
changes
to
in
royal
city
or
months
away.
At
this
point
I
mean
I
could
be
told
I'd
be
surprised
if
something
gets
done
in
2021.
G
What's
the
timeline
with
any
kind
of
code
changes,
because
I
know
there's
been
a
more
of
an
overall
review
of,
I
believe,
all
of
title
16.
If
I'm
correct
on
that,
is
that
right,
dave.
F
A
Yeah
kind
of
we're
looking
at
two
different
items
here,
the
big
one
is
the
landmark
protection
language.
That's
really
what
we
want
to
get
fleshed
out
with
council
and
get
in
the
books
and
then
the
other
half
part
of
that
is
the
title:
16
rewrite
rewrite
language
which
kind
of
they're
going
to
end
up
in
the
same
place
in
the
in
the
code
in
the
title
16,
but
the
landmark
protection
language
definitely
takes
takes
precedence
in
terms
of
moving
forward
with
one
of
the
items
sooner
than
the
other
one.
A
C
Well,
and
one
other
cynical
comment
is
my
experience
has
been,
it
sometimes
takes
several
tries
to
get
on
the
agenda
for
a
study
session
because
other
things
keep
coming
up
so.
F
And
you
know
melinda,
that's
not
cynical!
That's
true!
That
certainly
happened
sometime.
It's
been
a
little
bit
slower
for
us
lately
I
mean
it's,
it's
never
to
stand
still,
but
it
hasn't
been
quite
as
packed
the
recent
agendas
for
study
session,
so
I'm
hoping
there's
a
gap
council's
certainly
overdue,
to
meet
with
their
boards
and
commission.
So
I
think
this
is.
This-
has
taken
a
pretty
high
priority,
great.
C
So
we
may
we
officially
resolve
that
we're
going
to
appoint
jason
as
a
subcommittee
of
one
to
enter
into
some
explanations
and
discussions
on
our
proposed
changes.
E
J
Efficient
way
to
do
it
so
that
we're
definitely
not
running
a
foul
of
open
meeting
is
for
just
myself,
jason
and
dave
to
come
up
with
a
time
to
meet
and
then
come
back
and
present
to
all
of
you,
as
david
suggested
in
march,
with
the
plan
of
then
going
to
council
in
april.
J
This
is
how
I
read
this
and
and
any
potential
legal
issues
which
I
don't
see
any
really
big
ones,
but
this
is
what
this
means
legally
and
make
sure
that
that's
what's
captured
and
then
maybe
some
smaller
suggestions
for
language
tweaks
or
perhaps
there's
some
stats
suggestions
about
what
may
or
may
not
be
viable,
but
I'll
get
that
done.
Then
we
can
come
up
with
the
time
to
meet
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
present
to
all
of
you.
B
J
D
So
we
we're
pretty
much
where
we
were
the
last
time
that
we
gave
our
update
on
our
end.
But
I
there's
a
little
confusion
just
about
the
map
project
that
madeline's
working
on
and
the
one
that
we're
working
on
and
sort
of
how
they
are
different
and
similar.
And
all
of
that-
and
so
maybe
we
can
have
that
discussion.
C
Yeah
I
actually
put
that
in
the
new
business,
but
it
is
actually
part
of
the
whole
mapping
project
that,
if
we're
attempting
to,
as
I
understand
present
history
of
englewood
in
the
in
map,
format,
kind
of
which
is
and
madeleine,
is
working
on
englewood
as
it
is
today,
and
so
these
are
actually
two
different
projects.
G
Well
so
real
fast
on
this
tonight
middle,
and
I
want
to
hear
what,
where
your
update
is
on
this
and
kind
of
where
we're
at
and
and
background
and
intent,
but
also
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
in
the
situation
when
we
were
first
formed
as
a
commission.
G
B
G
Exactly
exactly
that
was
something
we
all
got
together
and
we
said:
hey
that'd,
be
a
really
great
idea,
and
this
was
before
sean
was
a
city
manager
and
our
our
intent
with
doing
so
was
to
create
a
strong
community,
feel
community,
pockets
and
neighborhoods
that
could
associate
with
one
another
and
what
eventually,
I
think
would
be
coined
with
later
efforts
as
a
neighborhood
kind
of
identification
or
place
making.
B
G
I
Awesome
so
we
obviously
talked
about
this
last
meeting
and
after
the
meeting
I
reached
out
to
helene-
and
we
were
just
talking
about
the
project
and
I
definitely
think
you
guys
are
right.
These
are
two
separate
projects.
One
is
historical
record
keeping
and
one
is
today's
neighborhoods.
I
So
I
think
what
we're
going
to
do
on
the
communications
team
is.
Take
the
awesome
historical
map
that
this
committee
created
and
bring
it
to
the
public
and
ask
them
you
know:
where
do
you
see
your
neighborhood?
Does
anyone
want
to
step
up
and
lead
this
neighborhood?
We
need
liaisons.
How
do
you
feel
about
the
boundaries,
but
then
this
historical
map
will
always
you
know,
live
on
our
website
and
it
will
always
just
be
the
historical
map
that
we
refer
to.
D
These
specifics
of
the
two
projects
madeleine's
project
has
fluid
boundaries.
Neighborhood
community
members
can
go
to
madeleine
and
establish
a
neighborhood
in
any
direction
they
want.
They
can
name
it
whatever
they
want.
D
If
there,
if
the
neighborhood
down
the
neighbor
down
the
street
does
the
same
thing
and
the
neighborhoods
overlap,
because
I
asked
madeline
this
question
when
she
first
explained
her
project
to
me
and
a
house
or
a
street
could
be
in
multiple
neighborhoods
at
once.
That's
fine
and
if
people
change
their
mind
down
the
road
and
new
leaders
want
to
emerge
and
draw
new
boundaries
and
have
new
names.
D
Those
are
now
the
new
neighborhoods
and
I
think
that
this
is
first
of
all,
I
don't
think
the
project
the
commission
started
is
a
records
keeping
project.
I
think
record
keeping
is
part
of
it.
It
was
a
neighborhood
designation
project
and
so
what
you're
describing
is
also
a
neighborhood
designation
project.
D
H
H
You
know
what
was
that
house
block
number
whatever
title
and
everything
got
too
overwhelmed
when
all
three
of
us
got
together
and
with
your
I.t
background
we
did
you
did
you
know
you
were
saying
well
gosh.
If
we
had
so
many
different
neighborhoods,
you
know
we'd
end
up
with
like
40
neighborhoods
rather
than
the
28
we
have,
and
it
was
like.
So
we
did
meld
some
stuff
together.
H
That's
where
broadway
strayers
got
kind
of
glumped
into
bates
logan,
that's
where
arapa
wakers
got
kind
of
blocked
in
to
romans
park,
and
we
tried
to
honor
the
the
districts,
the
city
council,
districts
that
could
also
change
and
yet
right
now
we're
using
those
as
kind
of
a
fixed
thing.
So
I
have
to
be
honest.
I
even
think
our
historic
aspect
got
a
little
melded,
weird
in
in
like,
but
you,
but
the
way
you
documented
everything
is
awesome.
D
I
do
I
agree
with
you
and
actually
I
think
that
I
would
suggest
there's
three
areas
where
one
was
broadway
striaes,
which
we
did
add
to
the
map.
We
have
it
on
our
map.
Madeleine
does
not
have
it
on
hers.
D
The
other
two
areas
that
I
know
that
concerned
you
was
arapahoe
acres,
which
we
also
parsed
out
after
the
commission
voted
on
the
map.
So
we
have
pulled
arapahoe
acres
out
broadway
heights.
We
ended
up
cutting
in
half
as
a
compromise
with
madeleine
and
that's
something
that
I
know
cj
didn't
like,
and
I
would
propose
that
we
go
back
and
revisit
and
make
sure
that
those
three
decisions
are
more
accurate
to
history
and
less
of
a
compromise
that
we
made
to
work
with
madeleine's
project.
D
So
we
did
make
compromises
to
work
with
madeleine's
project,
but
it's
not
going
to
work
in
the
long
run,
because
they're
there's
a
they're
kind
of
tr,
both
trying
to
do
the
same
thing
in
completely
different
ways.
They're
trying
to
us.
Both
projects
are
trying
to
establish
neighborhoods
one
is
trying
to
honor
the
historic
neighborhoods
and
and
promote
those
in
the
community,
and
the
other
is
trying
to
establish
new
neighborhoods
and
promote
those
in
the
community,
and
I
think
we'd
be
doing
our
community
a
disservice
to
both
charge
forward.
G
G
You
know
that
date
back
to
well
this,
and
you
know
this
into
the
city
that
both
melinda
and
I
are
in
those
date
back
to
the
1880.
Some
of
them,
and
some
of
them
are
small.
Some
of
them
are
big.
There's
always
going
to
be
probably
the
requirement
for
compromise
here.
G
Denver
went
through
this
when
they
named
their
neighborhoods.
They
had
to
do
that.
So
we,
I
don't
think
we
can
hold
exactly
to
the
historic
boundaries,
but
I
mean
from
my
perspective
here,
what
it
seems
like
is
very
little
if
any
of
the
historic
neighborhoods
were
included
in
the
the
final
kind
of
designation.
It
was
more
or
less
based
around
parks
and
parks
have
a
very
short
history
in
our
city
made
slogans
park.
G
I
I
will
say
that
many
residents
who
come
to
me
and
say
I
want
to
get
my
neighborhood
organized
and
then
I
say:
okay,
great,
let's
draw
boundaries
and
let's
name
the
neighborhoods
they're
very
much
like
I
don't
know.
So.
If
we
had
this
type
of
starter
map,
I
think
that
they
would.
I
know
that
they
would
completely
embrace
it
and
then,
of
course,
there
would
be
some
neighborhoods
who
would
want
to
rename
themselves
or
draw
different
boundaries.
I
D
I
That
will
it
will
not
get
cut
in
half.
There
is
a
process
to
get
a
neighborhood
registered
and
part
of
the
process
is
sending
out
postcards
having
some
type
of
neighborhood
meeting
in
order
to
approve
neighborhood
names
and
boundaries,
and
things
like
that,
I
wonder.
D
Why
the
commission,
the
historic
preservation
commission,
isn't
more
of
like
why
we're
not
more
involved
in
this
process,
and
it
just
worries.
It
seems
like
people
who
coordinate
with
you
and
have
access
to
you
are
going
to
be
drawing
neighborhoods
in
inglewood,
essentially
erasing
historic,
essentially
racing
history,
and
so
I
you
know
when
we
first
started,
you
had
made
a
distinction
between
our
two
projects.
You
had
said
that
ours
is
a
record-keeping
project
and
yours
is
a
neighborhood
project.
D
D
So
I
wonder
where
those
seven
new
neighborhoods
are,
but
if
the
mailer
has
characterized
your
project
as
a
resources
project
and
it's
really
a
community
organizing
project,
maybe
what
the
solution
lies
in
distinguishing
the
projects
as
ours
is
a
historic
neighborhood
project
and
yours
is
a
community
organizing
project
and
that
way
you
can
have
all
the
fluidity
you
want.
People
can
overlap
and
intersect
and
organize
all
day
long,
but
it
doesn't
change
the
physical
intersections
of
historic
neighborhoods
when
they
do
it.
H
And
but
the
idea
that
we
wanted
historic
input
for
some
people
that
have
lived
here
and
have
said?
Oh
this
area,
it
says
signal
hill,
but
we
really
called
it
blah.
I
mean
that's
what
I
had
hoped
to
get
from
people,
but
because
of
this
overlap
with
madeleine's
project
with
the
community,
organizing
neighborhood
versus
the
historic
neighborhood.
Now
that
that
terminology
is
is
confusing
people
just
like
it's.
G
We
do,
which
one
which
one
I
mean
honestly
when
this
first
this
idea
first
came
about,
we
were
hoping
that
the
city
would
be
able
to
invest
a
little
bit
of
money
in
putting
the
second
sign
above
street
signs,
saying
you're
in
broadway
strayers
heights
you're
in
you
know
south
broadway
heights
or
the
swedish
craig
area
or
the
you
know,
ironworks
area,
or
you
know
cherylin
or
these
other
areas
and
our,
I
guess
my
concern
specifically
with
this
is
I
associate
with
broadway's
trader's
heights.
It
is
known
it's
not
confusing.
G
I
can
look
at
my
title
of
my
property
and
it
says
subdivision
broadway,
strayer
heights,
that
that
information
is
already
there
and
already
exists.
Now.
I
understand
the
matter
of
compromise
here:
broadway
heights,
both
south
broadway
heights,
on
the
other
end
of
the
city
and
broadway
strayer's
heights.
Those
are
large
areas.
G
There's
you
know
it's
very
easy
to
define
cinderella's
city,
it's
very
easy
to
define
some
of
these
others
very,
very
easy
to
find
arapahoe
acres,
but
by
creating
a
countermeasure,
that's
a
name
that
was
developed
on
the
bates
logan
park
that
dates.
What
to
the
late
1960s
there's,
not
a
tremendous
amount
of
history.
There
jason
park,
similar
most
of
the
parks
in
the
city,
were
developed
around
the
the
mid
1960s
to
late
1960s.
C
Yeah
well,
could
I
just
point
out
too
that
part
of
the
original
legislation
that
created
the
historic
preservation
that
our
job
was
to
like
foster
civic
pride
in
our
history
and
our
neighborhoods
and
educate
the
public
on
what
our
history
and
neighborhoods
is
about,
and
this
is
actually
a
an
educational
project.
If
you
will.
I
I
agree,
I
think,
we're
all
working
towards
the
same
end
goal
here:
I'd
love
for
a
neighborhood
to
have
broadway
stairs
heights
on
their
street
signs,
and
I
think
what
helene
said
earlier
is
what
I
was
trying
to
describe
that
this
is
historical
record
keeping
and
then
there's
also
a
community
outreach
effort
that
the
city
would
like
to
also
also
conduct.
I
don't
know
eric
if
you
can
talk
about
it
a
little
bit
more
because
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
it
at
length.
Also.
A
A
I
guess
I
guess
my
question
would
be
so
if
somebody
wanted
to
in
the
neighborhood
organization
efforts
wanted
to
go
through
the
process
of
saying
renaming
or
identifying
different
boundaries
of
a
certain
neighborhood
one.
I
think
that
would
probably
need
to
be
a
public
process
of
some
of
some
sort
with
public
outreach
and
two,
I
guess
I
I
guess
I
am
envisioning
them
coexisting.
A
Let's
say
if
a
couple
subdivisions
want
to
get
together
and
we
have
to
say
I
could
be
way
across
town,
but
idlewild
and
broadway
heights
want
to
get
together
and
create
a
neighborhood
group.
They
would
be
still
kind
of
utilizing
those
historic
boundaries
to
create
that
neighborhood
and
if
there
is
some
overlap.
A
I
guess
I
don't.
I
necessarily
I
don't
necessarily
see
a
problem
with
that.
If,
if
the
historic
preservation
goal
is
to
get
those
neighborhoods
identified
by
by
street
signs
eventually,
because
you
could
still
be
in
the
historic
district
of
idlewild
but
be
in
a
neighborhood
group
that
encompasses
a
little
yeah,
it
becomes
something
larger
than
that.
D
H
Well,
we'll
bring
up
marion,
south
marion
is
two
blocks:
half
of
it
is
arapahoe
acres
and
half
of
it
isn't
they
are
their
own.
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
they're,
if
they've
already
or
they're,
going
to
submit
a
request
to
be
a
neighborhood
when
they
do
block
parties.
It's
just
those
two
city
blocks.
D
But
they're
not
two
neighborhoods,
that's
the
problem,
I'm
having
is
that
it
okay.
We
voted
on
a
map,
so
we
have
the
same
end
goal
right
and
we
worked
on
a
map,
the
three
of
us
and
then
we
voted
on
it.
As
a
commission
unanimously
by
the
next
meeting,
madeleine
had
already
changed
the
map.
A
neighbor
had
come
to
her.
There
was
no
public
forum,
boundaries
were
redrawn
and
neighborhood
was
renamed.
D
It
wasn't
eric
a
public
forum
issue.
It
was
a
madeleine
in
her
group
decision
and
it
rewrote
a
map
that
we
as
a
commission
already
voted
on.
So
the
idea
that,
like
it's
not
gonna,
create
problems
is
unrealistic
because
already
seven
new
neighborhoods
have
popped
up
in
the
last
few
months,
so
it's
happening
rapidly.
D
Clearly,
just
saying
we
have
the
same
end
goal
in
mind:
isn't
going
to
see
us
through
the
conflicts
that
these
two
objectives
actually
have.
In
my
opinion,
I
do
not
think
personally,
I
do
not
like
the
idea
of
new
neighborhoods
being
drawn
in
the
context
of
madeleine's
group.
I
don't
I
don't
like
it.
I
don't
mind.
Neighborhood
groups
being
established
community
groups
being
established
like
interest
groups,
similar
interest
groups
being
established.
D
I
That
that
might
be
a
great
way
to
look
at
it
also.
I
was
talking
to
a
neighborhood
group
leader
and
we
looked
at
the
historical
map
and
there
was
like
2
000
residences
in
in
the
boundary,
and
that
was
just
too
much
for
him.
You
know
he
said
to
to
have
you
know,
neighborhood
events
and
things
with
2000
residences,
it's
just
too
much,
so
he
was
maybe
going
the
route
of
calling
it
an
association
or
calling
it
some
type
of
neighborhood
group.
I
So
that
could
also
be
a
route
that
we
also
go,
but
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
at
and
we
only
have
two
registered
neighborhoods,
I'm
not
sure
where
the
seven
is
coming
from.
It's.
D
D
Well,
I
think
that
is
the
solution,
and
so,
if
you're
willing
to
distinguish
your
project
as
a
community
organizing
project
as
a
groups
project
as
an
association's
project
or
or
as
it
was
built
in
the
mailer
a
resources
project,
so
it
was
billed
as
that
as
well,
and
ours
can
be
distinguished
as
like
neighborhood
boundaries,
and
then
we
can
continue
to
work
towards
the
ends
of
having
signage
and
creating
these
like
districts
and
potentially
some
of
them
getting
historical
designation.
D
So
it
really
plays
into
the
conversations
we
just
had
about
code
and
things
like
that
too,
like
some
of
these
areas
can
be
just
historically
significant,
with
no
no
like
repercussions
to
that
designation
other
than
to
build
community
pride,
which
is
one
of
our
initiatives.
I
think
that's
a
good
solution,
and
then,
additionally
and
I'll
make
this
really
quick.
D
D
It's
a
pretty
robust
tool,
and
I
know
that
you
also
have
a
tool
that
works
for
the
project
that
you
have
in
mind.
So
it's
like
a
really
good
tool
for
like
drawing
around
these
communities,
but
I
think
for
cj's
interest
in
having
more
of
an
oral
tradition
being
starting
to
be
recorded,
because
what
cj-
and
I
documented
was
information
from
maps
that
we
organized
geographically
in
order
to
capture
oral
tradition
in
a
really
meaningful
way.
D
I
think
that
the
tool
that
melinda
said
denver
would
give
us
access
to
is
a
really
good
tool
for
that.
So
we
do
have
like
more
to
discuss
moving
forward
in
ways
that
we
can
capture
that
oral
history,
which
was
part
of.
I
think
it
was
part
of
your
project,
but
I
think
that
maybe
that
can
move
over
more
into
our
project
and
we
can
organize
that
oral
history
using
a
tool
like
the
one
that
melinda
shared
with
me,
because
I'm
not
sure
how
you're
going
to
track
it.
I'm
not.
D
I
I
don't
think
that
originally,
when
we
thought
of
this
together,
we
were
thinking
of
like
neighborhood
boundaries
and
then
asking
the
community
for
historical.
I
So
we
can
definitely
still
put
all
the
history
into
a
story
map
and
then
we'll
just
the
neighborhood
map
if
it
changes
and
things
like
that,
probably
won't
go
into
the
official
story
map
but
yeah.
I
like
the
idea
of
neighborhood
groups
also,
I
can't
necessarily
commit
that.
That's
what
we're
going
to
do.
I
don't
know
if
we're
still
going
to
launch
the
community
engagement
effort
for
the
neighborhoods,
but
that's
I
guess
why
we're
here
and
I
really
I
like
that
idea.
Moving
forward.
H
I
G
I'm
just
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
here
and
and
well
so
where
does
the
information
go
at
the
end,
I
mean
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
community
groups
and
things
like
that.
But
where
does
this
information
go?
How
does
this
city
view
the
information?
Does
it
does
the
city
understand
that
bates
logan
is
not
actually
the
area,
it
is
just
a
group
or
community
group
or
or
is
that
actually
going
to
be
published
as
you've
got
district
1,
which
is
largely
bates
logan?
So
now
we're
going
to
call
this
officially
bait
slogan
park.
G
That's
what
I'm
really
worried
about
here,
because
it's
almost
going
to
be.
I
guess
my
entire
concern
is
that
we're
going
to
whitewash
over
the
actual
real
historic
neighborhood
that
exists
with
a
new
name
that
was
arbitrarily
chosen
in
a
short
period
of
time.
I'm
not
saying
that
your
work
was
not
beneficial.
I
mean
what
you're
doing
is
great.
I
think
that's
a
fantastic
thing
for
the
community,
but
I'm
just
very
concerned
that
we
are
adjusting
modern
day
inglewood
and
not
looking
back
at
what
actually
exists.
H
I
You
know,
anyway,
no-
and
I
know
through
the
community
engagement
effort,
a
lot
of
the
messaging
will
focus
on
how
this
map
was
created
and
what
history
went
into
it.
I
mean
we
want
to
conserve
all
of
this
history,
so
there
will
definitely
be
tons
of
messaging
and
all
of
the
feedback
will
be
taken,
and
things
like
that.
We
just
definitely
want
to
reach
out
to
everyone
in
englewood,
so
everyone
kind
of
is
able
to
give
their
input
and
participate
in
this
city-wide
process.
D
Maybe
it
would
be
better
to
focus
on
like
the
community
organizing
of
today
and
like
send
the
history
our
way
and
we
can
keep
expanding
on
what
we've
started
and
potentially
using
the
interface
that
melinda
introduced
to
me
that
we
have
to
see
if
it's
still,
if
denver
still
offers,
still
stands,
but
it's
actually
very
sophisticated
way
of
inventorying
landmarks,
historic
neighborhoods,
all
the
way
down
to
the
plot
to
plot.
So
we
could
really.
D
D
Can
we
separate
them
further
and
yeah,
and-
and
really
I
think,
maybe
what
matt
is
also
ultimately
trying
to
say
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
we
want
to
be
part
of
establishing
the
official
neighborhoods
of
inglewood,
and
so,
if
we
are
over
here
doing
our
neighborhood
project
and
the
city's
ignoring
us
and
they're
just
going
with
whatever
neighborhoods
your
project
has
we
haven't
fully
separated
the
projects
yet
like
that's
our
stake
in
it
like
we
want
to
be
able
to
say
this
is
broadway
heights.
This
is
a
rapidly
designated
yeah.
D
We
want
to
be
able
to
have
some.
We
that's
what
we
want
to
be
working
on
as
a
commission.
I
G
And
actually
yeah,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
but
we
haven't.
We
haven't
heard
from
some
of
the
other
members
on
the
commission.
I'd
like
to
I
mean,
with
your
permission
melinda,
can
we
open
the
floor
up
to
see
what
everybody
else's
opinion
is
on
this.
B
E
Yeah
I'm
kind
of
the
same
suggestions
and
then
I
also
know
this
you
know
is
a
project
that
started
well
before
I
came
on
board,
so
I
know
there's
people
that
you
know
or
have
been
putting
a
lot
more
hours
into
it.
So
I'm
more
invested,
so
it's
kind
of
somebody's
hard
to
say,
but
yeah
again
I
recognize
what
the
concerns
are
just
kind
of
I'm
not
sure
what
a
solution
it
is,
but
perhaps.
J
E
What
kind
of
came
up
earlier?
You
know
a
matter
of
semantics,
or
what
kind
of
things
are
called
to
just
slot
them
into
parallel
kind
of
things
that
you
know
the
community
both
wants
their
history
and
also
identify
what
their.
E
C
Other
question,
this
being
the
21st
century,
no
matter
how
many
maps
we
have
and
how
much
history
we've
compiled
and
so
forth,
it's
got
to
be
housed
somewhere
and
we're
we're
not
writing
a
book
for
the
library
where
we
wanted
to
be
accessible
to
all
the
citizens.
C
A
J
A
Available
publicly
kind
of
like
envisioning
say,
for
example,
here's
a
map
of
the
what
has
been
determined
to
be
the
historical
neighborhoods
which
you
can
then
click
on.
And
then
that
would
take
you
to
another
page,
which
shows
a
little
bit
more
of
the
depth
of
that
neighborhood.
And
that's
where
the
public
outreach
would
come
in
for
the
historical
aspect
was
that
people
would
be
able
to
come
to
you
and
provide
pictures,
documents
etc.
And
things
like
that
that
we
could
add
to
that
portion
of
the
web
page.
A
H
G
I
think,
or
even
dominating
or
even
dominating
the
discussion.
If
it's
that's
that's
the
thing
is
when
you
take
this-
and
I
understand
the
whole
community
aspect
to
this-
and
this
is
really
great-
I
mean
it's
a
it's
reaching
out.
Let's
get
opinions,
it's
good
ideas,
but
the
loudest
voices
are
the
ones
that
oftentimes
win
in
those
situations
that
doesn't
necessarily
define
what
is
actually
it's
just
what
is
said.
It's
the
individual
or
the
group
or
the
people
that
come
together,
and
I
don't
know
how
we
fixed
that
in
this
case.
D
Let's
fix
it
well,
I
think
that
we've
really
we're
really
narrowing
in
on
it.
I
think
that
you
know
the
communities
project
is
about
today.
Families
today
communities
today,
and
I
think
that
sharing
information
about
today
on
that
map
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
then
routing
the
history
to
us
to
make
sense
of,
for
our
project
makes
sense
and
that
way,
they're
they're
sort
of
separated,
not
just
in
name
and
not
just
semantically,
but
also
you
know,
inherently
with
the
content
that
they
showcase.
D
Organizing
project
is
a
very
contemporary
snapshot
of
inglewood
and
then
the
historic
project
is
just
that
and
there's
ways
that
we
could
accept
submissions
from
the
community
for
the
historic
information
for
the
oral
traditions,
the
pictures
and
all
of
that
we
could
set
up
a
submission
button
on
the
website
and
they
could
submit
it
and
those
submissions
could
come
to
us
as
a
commission
and
we
can
sort
through
them
and
decide
where
they
go
and
file
them,
and
we
can
use
that
software
that
we
were
talking
about,
that's
really
set
to
like
catalog
and
inventory
his
neighborhoods
and
geography.
D
So
I
think
that
we
just
have
to
like
there
has
to
be
agreement
with
the
city
and
with
our
commission
to
keep
our
projects
separate,
to
call
them
distinct
things
and
to
stay
in
distinct
lanes,
and
I
think,
by
doing
that,
we'll
be
performing
a
service
for
our
community,
ultimately
and
and
avoiding
what
what
could
be
just
a
lot
of
confusion.
Otherwise,.
I
I'm
taking
notes,
I
feel
great
about
that.
I
don't
I
hate
to
say
this.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
super
clear
with
what
the
two
lanes
are.
If
we
keep
the
two
lanes
with
the
neighborhoods
and
the
historical
project
like
I
said,
I
see
the
historical
map
as
a
historical
map,
and
that
is
the
version
and
then
we'll
take
the
historical
map
as
the
neighborhoods
and
just
bring
it
to
the
community,
and
I
guess,
for
lack
of
a
better
term
modernize
it.
If
residents
see
different
neighborhoods
in
that.
D
I
don't
think
that's
it.
I
don't
think
I
don't
think.
That's
the
that's
what
we're
saying
well.
I
think
that
our
map
would
be
working
towards
established
neighborhoods
that
are
recognized
by
the
city
and
your
project
is
a
community
group
project
where
community
members
can
come
in
and
form
groups,
but
not
change
the
map.
D
The
community
members
aren't
coming
to
you
to
change
the
map.
We
voted
on
a
map
unanimously,
but
even
then
20
and
you
changed
it
right
away
where
there
was
no
vote.
When
the
map
got
changed.
A
community
member
came
to
you
and
asked
to
redraw
the
map
that
we
voted
on
and
you
redrew
it.
So
like
that's
what
would
if
we
were
to
stay
in
our
lanes?
There
wouldn't
be
any
more
of
that.
A
A
You
know,
as
things
have
changed
over
time,
you
know
it
might
not
make
sense
from
a
community
development
standpoint
to
you
know
basically,
wall
off
a
certain
district
and
basically
have
to
say
that's,
that's
the
neighborhood
community.
You
need
to
be,
I
said
I
mean
think
of
it
as
kind
of
like
it's,
how
I'm
viewing
this
is
like
you
have
your
historical
map,
but
then
you
also
have
your
kind
of
neighborhood
group
map
which
you
could
have
see
as
like
a
zoning
overlay.
A
If
you
will
so
like,
we
have
multiple
zone
districts,
but
we
also
have
a
zoning
overlay
which
crosses
multiple
zone
districts,
I'm
kind
of
viewing
this
and
the
outcomes
of
these
two
projects.
It's
kind
of
looking
similar
to
that.
Where
he's
like
yeah,
you
have
the
the
broadway
strayer
heights,
etc
neighborhood
group,
but
you
also
have
another
map
which
you
can
like
overlay
it.
On
top
of
your
historic
networks,
that's
going
to
include
portions
of
historic
districts.
A
I
don't
think
that
after
you
say,
you
go
through
the
approval
process
of
approving
this
historic
map
that
you've
worked
on,
that
those
boundaries
are
just
going
to
immediately
be
changed
from
a
historic
perspective.
I
think
I
think
the
projects
could
overlap
in
terms
of
a
map.
If,
if
you
will
well.
G
If
we
I
mean
all
things
said,
if
we
have
say,
for
instance,
I
keep
saying
broadway
straight
outside
somebody
doesn't
live
in
that
area,
but
the
neighborhood
is
broadway's
trailers
heights
with
community
groups
or
community
pockets
within
that
that
can
associate
individually,
but
you're
you're,
still
respecting
and
understanding
that
a
you
know.
Your
property
records
state
broadband
heights
as
the
subdivision
and
community.
G
That's
not
changing
and
that's
not
getting
confusing,
and
then
you
still
have
the
community
opportunity
there
for,
for
instance,
for
I
could
be
in
the
you
know,
the
you
could
make
bates
logan,
because
I'm
just
a
few
blocks
away
from
bates
logan,
where
the
bates
logan
community,
within
the
broadway
strayers
heights
neighborhood,
and
then.
C
Or
the
other
way
around,
actually
I
was
going
to
say
pretty
much
the
same
thing
that
so
we
have
the
at
some
time
in
the
future.
We
have
treya's
broadway
heights
historic
district
and
it
is
contained
within
bates
logan,
but
it
is,
it
has
its
own
identity
within
that.
G
G
So
that's
what
that's
the
caution,
I
guess
the
red
flag
that's
getting
thrown
up
here
is
if
we
have
fluid
boundaries
and
fluid
names
and
areas
that
are
defined,
that
are
fluid,
but
not
fluid,
but
you
know
hard
to
change
once
they're
really
set
because
they're
they're
defined.
How
does
that
work
with
designating
specific
areas?
Historic.
E
I
guess
kind
of,
for
example,
is
on
stuff
that
comes
up
with
the
the
national
state
register.
You
know
a
lot
of
these
times.
The
the
naming
conventions
is
based
off
of
what
it
was
known
as
during
its
period
of
of
significance-
and
you
know
a
lot
of
the
times,
a
lot
of
the
buildings,
even
buildings
or
ranches,
or
whatever
usually
have
multiple
names
and
the
the
forms
usually
kind
of
reflect
that
you
know
has.
E
E
So
you
know,
I
guess,
as
far
as
historic,
designation
under
landmarks
or
or
for
pursuing
other
things,
you
know
kind
of
it
recognizes
that
it
recognizes
that
historic
name
when
it
was
it
earned
its
significance,
and
I
don't
know
if
we'd
really
run
into
too
much
of
the
the
concerns
that
are
coming
up
here.
But
but
perhaps
there
could
be
confusion
but
yeah,
just
kind
of
speaking
from
other
examples
of
historic
districts
and
stuff
around
around
the
state.
E
G
Well,
I
mean
it
seems
we're
taking
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
can
define
a
solution
right
now,
but
this
is
just
simply
expressing
the
concern
with
this.
Is
it
the
competing
names?
I
don't
think
would
will
turn
out
well
personally,
and
I
don't
know
how
we
get
around
that,
but
it's
it's
just
simply
simply
concern.
C
Yeah,
I
I
felt
it
was
important
to
air
our
our
concerns
and
our.
I
Great,
so
thank
you
and
we
can
continue
this
discussion.
I
guess
next
meeting
and
eric
and
I
can
talk
offline
and
things
like
that.
So.
H
I
I
Might
eric
do
you
have.
A
D
I
D
It
was
actually
the
next
month
we
had
voted
on
the
map,
and
that
month
you
had
moved
to
the
boundary,
and
you
said
that
you
renamed
a
new
you.
You
established
a
new
neighborhood
after
we
had
voted
on
the
map.
You
had
cut
one
of
the
neighborhoods,
we
voted
in
half,
I
don't
know
who
you
did
it
with
well.
I.
B
D
It
something.
G
G
But
let's,
let's
look
at:
let's
look
at
the
path
going
forward
as
to
how
we
how
we
get
there.
D
But
eric
I
I
just
do
want
to
confirm
to
you
that
it
has
happened
and
also,
I,
I
think
part
of
our
plan
with
the
map
that
we've
been
working
on
and
we
voted
on
was
to
ultimately
bring
it
to
a
public
forum.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
to
you
that
that
was
part
of
our
process
is
actually
to
to
more
like
to
to
go
officially
through
the
process.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear,
and
I
agree
with
that.
We
can
do
the
overlays.
I
see
your
vision
there.
My
only
issue
is
when
we
call
the
different
layers
of
the
overlays,
the
same
thing:
neighborhood
neighborhood
neighborhood.
I
think
the
the
light
the
overlays
need
to
have
different
names
other
than
neighborhood,
like
community
group
or
association.
Or
what
did
you
say
matt?
I
thought
it
was
great.
D
But
I
think
one
of
those
terms
just
something
different
than
neighborhoods.
I
think
we
need
to
preserve
the
the
term
neighborhood
for
the
more
established
based
in
history
gone
through.
The
public
forum
gets
the
signage.
You
know
that
those
to
me
are
the
neighborhoods
and
the
other.
Things
are
like
groups
and
associations.
C
Well,
I
would
say
historic:
district
is
a
better
term
that
can
be
within
a
neighborhood.
G
D
Not
everything
that
we
on
the
map
that
we
worked
on
not
everything
is
historic,
though
so
some
of
the
neighborhoods
like
we,
we
delet,
we
basically
figured
out
28
neighborhoods
and
we
did
take
into
consideration
their
their
pinnacle
in
history.
D
As
you
said,
jason
we
considered
that
and
we
considered
their
use
today
as
well
eric
which
you
brought
up.
So
those
were
like
considered
not
perfectly
so,
but
we
considered
them
and
then
the
idea
was
and
then
we
voted
on
it
and
the
idea
was
to
take
it
to
the
city
council
and
have
them
look
it
over
and
open
it
up
to
the
community
at
large
and
not
all
of
those
neighborhoods
are
historic,
so
some
of
them
would
get
historic
designations.
D
Some
of
them
would
just
be
neighborhoods,
but
they
wouldn't
be
fluid
boundaries
at
that
point
because
they
would
have
had
the
public
buy-in
they
would
have
had
our
eye
on
them
and
so
we're
trying
to
like
establish
non-fluid
neighborhoods
to
some
degree
and
so
yeah.
G
Well,
why
don't
why
don't
how
about
this
metal-
and
you
had
mentioned
both
you
and
eric
this?
I
think
I
think
we
made
our
point.
Can
you
take
us
offline
and
kind
of?
Let
us
know
where
you
come
back
with
we're
asking
for
and
looking
for
a
middle
ground
and
a
compromise
that
really
allows
the
work
we've
already
done
to
be
incorporated.
A
We
will
brainstorm
and
get
back
to
you.
I
do
like
the
idea
of
identifying
them
with
historic
districts
and
that
might
help
avoid
some
confusion
between
historic
districts
and
neighborhood
groups,
but
yeah
also
I'll
talk
with
madison
and
communications
and
we'll
see
what
we
can
come
up
with
to
move
forward.
C
Great,
let's
yeah,
we
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
time
left
in
our
meeting.
So
let's,
let's
do
press
on
for
now.
C
E
Yeah
so
with
the
oh,
eric
was
gonna,
say
something.
A
Yeah,
so
we
did
get
a
letter
of
recommendation
or
approval
from
the
city
manager
for
the
grant
application,
so
jason
when
you're
ready
to
are
ready
to
move
forward
with
that
application.
I
can
go
ahead
and
give
that
a
forward
that,
to
you.
E
Okay,
that's
right,
yeah,
that's
great
news!
I
think
we
have
everything
we
need.
So
if
it's,
okay
with
everybody
and
eric
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
kind
of
pull
together
all
the
materials
that
I
have
the
draft
language
for
the
application
itself,
the
the
letters
and
send
that
to
eric,
and
then
we
can
coordinate
on
when
when
the
city
you're
filling
that
out
for
the
city-
and
you
know
it's
on
an
online
forum
that
can
be
saved.
E
So
if
you
come
across
a
section
that
you're,
not
sure
of
you
can
just
you
know,
reach
out
to
me,
but
I
can.
I
can
send
you
that
that
chunk
of
stuff
and
the
link
to
the
application-
and
we
can
get
on
doing
that
perfect.
A
Yeah,
if,
if
you're
good
to
go,
we
can
go
ahead
and
start
get
that
application
submitted.
I
did
hear
from
someone
recently
that
it's
taken
about
30
days
to
review
the
grand
submittals
at
this
time.
C
Yeah
cool,
I
I
just
viewed
a
presentation
on
applying
for
grants
from
shf
and
part
of
what
I
learned
from
that
is.
Oh,
I'm
so
glad
jason's
around
to
make
this
easier
for
us
so
because
yeah,
it
was
definitely
making
my
head
spin.
C
If
anybody
had
any
comments
on
the
on
the
thing
I
didn't
other
than
I
think
we
can
probably
add
some
photographs
just
coming
out
of
google
maps
or
something
like
that.
E
Yeah,
I
guess
I'd
perhaps
recommend
that
we
just
wait
for
next
meeting
to
hear
so.
Lauren
can
hear
those
comments
and
you
know
what
she's
done
she
may
have
taken
photographs
or
thing
things
like
that.
So
I'd
recommend
when
she's
available
kind
of
going
over
anybody's
comments.
C
Yeah,
I
had
a
look
at
what
was
there
already
and
it's
I
say
pretty
complete.
Just
I
think
just
lacks
photographs
basically,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
many
or
like
at
least
the
present
owners.
C
That
I
thought
well
because
the
other-
and
I
had
a
note
about
that-
it's
been
granted
a
preservation
easement
back
a
number
of
years
ago.
E
It
means
that
the
entity
that
holds
the
easement
has
approval
on
alterations
to
the
building.
It's
from
historic
denver
and
their
easements
are
typically
just
building
envelopes.
So
it
only
concerns
the
outside
of
the
building.
Other
properties
may
have
interior,
but
so
any
alterations
that
they
plan
to
do.
They
have
to
go
to
historic
denver
for
approval,
make
sure
that
it
meets
the
secretary
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation.
E
C
C
And
we
already
discussed
the
new
business
here
so
moving
on
staff's
choice.
Eric
did
you
have
anything
madeline.
A
The
only
thing
I
had
is,
I
got
some,
not
some
just
one
piece
of
mail,
a
package
for
the
englewood,
historic
society
that
ended
up
in
my
office.
I
know
that's
happened
in
the
past
and
I
would
just
bring
the
stuff
to
matt,
but
since,
in
the
time
of
covid
I
want
to
get
that
package
to
whoever
it
needs
to
go
to
so
matt
is.
Are
you
still
my
guy
on
that.
G
Sorry
yeah
I
could,
I
can
take
it
or
paul.
It
may
be
easier
for
me
to
come
down
right
now
than
paul.
If
there's
a
time
that
you're
at
city
hall,
are
you
at
city
hall
right
now,
and
the
open
office
is
backed
up.
A
Yeah,
so
offices
are
open,
we're
operating
at
a
limited
reduced
staff
capacity,
so
I'm
in
the
office
every
other
week
and
working
remotely
the
other
week.
So
I'm
in
the
office
this
week
and
then
I'll
be
working
remotely
next
week.
So
doesn't.
G
That
that's
a
good
point,
cj
the
the
proper
place
is
actually
the
library.
I
wonder
how
I
got
to
you
that
was
funny.
A
G
G
G
A
Okay,
that
was
all
I
had
for
staff
stories.
Oh
also,
I
was
going
to
ask.
I
know
some
of
you
had
attended
the
saving
places
conference.
A
I
think
three
of
you,
jason,
cj
and
melinda,
and
I
was
gonna-
ask
if
you
could
maybe
for
an
agenda
item
next
time,
just
have
like
a
little
bit
of
a
discussion
of
like
if
there
was
any
interesting
presentations
or
anything
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
the
group
from
the
conference.
That
was
the
the
thought
that
I
had.
H
And
one
thing:
that's
really
cool
I
found
out
so
I
had
to
work
during
the
whole
conference,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
attend
anything
but
they're
archiving
it.
So
anybody
that
had
signed
up
get
just
gets
to
see
it
for
a
whole
year.
So
I
I
watched
number
three
today,
melinda
was
there
from
the
get-go,
I
guess
and
jason
I
don't
know,
were
you
there
from
the
get-go
too.
C
Now
mikey
was
there
part
of
the
time
at
least
I
saw
her
in
one
of
the
sessions
that
I
was
in.
What's
that
lauren
was
there
or
somebody
named
lauren
cooper?
Was
there
well.
A
Considered,
I
tell
you
what,
if
those
of
you
who
attended
you
want
to
just
email
me
individually,
and
I
can
just
forward
those
on
to
melinda
when
she
crafts
the
agenda.
B
A
I
will
let
you
know
yeah
if
there,
if
there's
overlap
I'll
I'll,
get
back
to
you
and
say
hey,
you
know
you
two
picked
these
two.
Do
you
want
to
have
a
conversation
among
yourself
about
who
wants
to
take
what
yeah,
I
think
I'll
be
pretty
easy
to
navigate.
B
C
I
C
Not
all
right
well
and
if
we're
going
to
rehash
the
one
thing
I
have
to
mention,
though,
because,
like
I
say,
one
thing
I
learned
at
the
conference
is
that
the
cherryland
horse
car
is
not
the
only
trolley
car
that
ever
served
inglewood.
C
There
was
also
the
loretta
heights
railway
and
which
was
actually
in
operation
before
englewood,
was
a
city
and
was.
C
All
the
way
out
actually
to
fort
logan,
almost
with
a
spur
up
federal
to
take
the
students
to
loreto
heights.
And
it
was
owned
by
the
archdiocese.
C
And
there
was
the
cdot
has
a
whole
gis
project
of
historic
trolleys
and
I
emailed
cj
and
helene
with
the
the
link
to
that,
because
it
was
really
fascinating
and
say,
inglewood
is
included
on
that
and
but
one
of
the
things
that
they
had
on
their
web
page
was
a
time
slider
that
you
could
advance
the
the
time
through
and
see
when
you
know
where
the
thing
appeared
and
when
it
died
out
and
so
forth
and
just
and
go
through
time
with
it.
And
I'm
just
thinking.
C
Oh,
if
we
could
do
something
like
that
with
our
historic
maps
or
our
map
of
inglewood.
You
know
so
that
when
a
new
section
was
annexed,
it
appears
all
of
a
sudden.