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Oh
yeah,
oh
stand
by
here
I
found
1611.,
I'm
sorry
dave.
What's
the
what's
the
one
I
missed
this
in
the
email
here
I
didn't
realize
you.
You
mentioned
this.
The
city
already
has
a
historic
preservation.
Oh
okay!
No
we
we
don't
need
title
two
chapter
15.
We
just
need
16,
6,
11
and
16
5
3..
Is
there
anything
else.
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So
I
was
going
to
know
for
the
comments
that
the
city
attorney
forwarded.
You
know
the
very
first
like
bullet
point
to
have.
I
want
to
make
sure
to
note
that
that
is
not
accurate,
that
all
the
codes
proposed
impact
the
rights
of
private
property
owners,
because
you
can
have
it
where
it's
either
courtesy
review
by
staff
or
commission,
where
that's
just
something
between
planning
and
the
commission
or
you
can
also
have
things
where
it's
a
review
by
the
board,
but
it's
voluntary
compliance
by
the
property
owners.
F
So
it
would
just
be
one
of
those
things
where
it
could
come
in
front
of
the
board.
We
say:
well,
we
think
that
a
addition,
you're
gonna
you
want
to
put-
or
you
know
whatever
the
alteration
you
want
to
make
is
gonna
negatively
affect
this
historic
property
and
the
property
owner
can
say.
Thanks
for
your
comments,
that's
what
I
want
to
do.
I'm
gonna
do
it
anyway,
so
I
just.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
note
that
that
first,
that
number
one
to
propose
that
saying
that
they
all
propose
impact.
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Ahead,
well,
jason,
real
quick.
Those
are
good
points,
I'm
taking
notes
here,
so
I
can
respond
back
to
the
city
attorney
as
well.
Consider
this
a
a
two-way
conversation
also,
you
know
if
there's
things
that
maybe
were
were
misconstrued
on
that
end,
then
then
we'll
provide
the
clarification
we
can
keep
moving
it
forward.
Your
point
is
certainly
taking
on
the
first
one
in
the
second
and
third
as
well.
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Yeah,
the
you
know
again,
just
kind
of
I
know
I've
brought
it
up
before,
but
speaking
to
my
experience
as
a
preservation
planner
for
the
park
county
clg,
that's
how
they
headed
up
there,
just
knowing
that.
Obviously
a
very
rural
area
with
you
know,
ranchers
and
stuff
that
any
kind
of
more
heavy-handed
regulations
would
not
really
fly
up
there.
So
ours
was
just
courtesy,
review
and.
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Guess
I
that's
what
I'm
feeling
as
well,
I'm
going
to
you
know
when
I
say
we,
let's
I'll
point
that
at
me,
I'll
get
back
with
the
city
attorney
again.
I
appreciate
those
clarifications,
jason
and
the
way
you
describe
it
as
you
have
in
these
meetings
several
times.
It
certainly
varies
from,
I
think
with
which
she
took
it
to
be,
and
so
allow
me
to
make
that
distinction
with
her
and
then
kind
of
see
where
she
lands
after.
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I
know
like
in
the
documents
that
you
had
forwarded
to
the
attorney.
There
was
only
certain
sections
of
them
that
we
wanted
to
look
at,
because
the
entire
document
discusses,
like
the
creation
of
the
hpc
kind
of
what
she
what
allison
had
referred
to
in
an
email,
the
creation
of
the
hpc
and
the
landmark
designation
criteria.
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So
the
language
we
want
her
to
look
at
is
the
language
regarding
landmark
protections
and
the
difference
between
the
basic
and
the
limited
landmark
protections,
and
that
is
ultimately
going
to
be
up
to
you
guys,
I
think,
to
decide
the
language
you
want
to
bring
before
council,
because
that
will
require
a
change
to
title
16
code.
So
I
think
that
reaching
out
to
the
attorney,
though,
that
was
that
first
step.
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Yes,
well,
I
will
quickly
zoom
with
that
the
little
delay
I'm
a
bad
dance
partner,
I'm
an
even
worse,
zoom
conversationalist,
I'm
constantly
stepping
on
people's
senses.
So
pardon
me
melinda.
I
I
caught
your
sense
there.
It
is
eric!
Well,
I've
got
the
muni
code
up
right
now
too,
can
you
point
me
to
exactly
the
the
section
that
we
want
her
to
look
at
just
so
that
I'm
clear
when,
when
I
get
back
with
her
again.
A
So
it's
actually
not
the
section,
that's
in
our
unicode,
it's
actually
the
sections
on
the
two
documents
that
I
had
sent
you
in
the
email-
and
I
think
I
recalled
the
sections
out
in
that
an
email.
I
said
I
think
in
the
limited
section,
it's
sections
three
and
four
and
then
in
the
basics.
Section
it's
sections
four
through
eight
is
what
we
would
want
her
to
look
at.
F
Yeah,
I
think
we're
just
kind
of
looking
for
the
feasibility
of
you
know
her
thoughts
on
the
feasibility
of
those
different
levels.
I
get
kind
of
from.
You
know,
perhaps
from
her
response
that
there
may
not
be
a
whole
lot
of
appetite
for
the
more
harder
line,
regulations
but
yeah
just
kind
of
seeing
you
know
what
she
thought
would
be
the
most
feasible
to
bring.
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Well,
I
think
she
just
has
it
out
there.
I
think
it's
truly
just
a
fluid
thing
going
on
the
thing
she
sent
me
had
to
do
with
it
seemed
like
there
was
one.
What
was
just
so
you
know.
The
first
thing
I
thought
was
interesting
is
when
I
went
to
inglewood
and
typed
in
maps.
I
got
all
these
maps,
but
none
of
madeleine's
maps-
and
I
was
like
oh
that
was
interesting,
so
I
don't
know
eric.
If
that's
something
you
could
look
into,
I
don't.
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There's
some
like,
like
districts
that
already
have
like
names
that
have
been
embraced,
maybe
like
find
some
of
the
larger
districts
and
have
them
like
absorb
the
smaller
ones
or
like
the
adjacent,
unnamed
ones,
and
maybe
try
to
use
natural
features
like.
Are
we
allowed
to
do
that
to
just
propose,
like
our
own.
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Yeah,
but
the
problem
remember
like
what
he
was
finding
was
that
it's
it's
piecemeal,
there's
certain
subdivisions
that
were
substantial,
I
mean
like
you've
got
the
carnation
subdivision
on
the
other
side
of
broadway
is
that
where
twin
dragons
is
or
something
and
the
idea
that
you
know
certain
places
came
up
on
the
sanborn,
those
different
maps
that
we
merged
together,
I
would
have
to
say
the
sanborns.
Don't
you
think
melinda
yeah
and.
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I
imagine
linda
lucky
madeline,
looking
at
this
and
going
well
now
I
put
it
out
there.
I
mean
it's
been
months
literally
months
that
she's
put
out
for
people
to
put
in
what
do
they
call
their
neighborhoods
and
she's
got
a
few
that
are
a
couple
of
blocks.
She's
got
a
few
that
feel
they're
a
bigger
neighborhood
and
the
even
the
broadway
style.
Probably
heights.
That's
huge!
There's
she's
got
pockets
in
there,
people
that
feel
they're.
These
kind
of
you
know
different
names
so
seeing
that
overlapped.
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Well,
like
I
said
I
mean
she
didn't.
Obviously
I
don't
I
can't
say
percentages.
I
don't
know
if
she
got
five
percent
or
25
percent
response
rate,
but
again
even
she
said
there
was
even
one
neighborhood
that
felt
they
were
very
close,
but
they
they
felt
that
their
neighborhood
was
different.
You
know
so
she
had
some
overlap.
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We've
got:
we've
got
information
all
over
the
place
on
a
couple
different
google
drives,
and
I
think
when
when
mike,
where
was
that
mike?
I
can't
remember
his
name
tonight
when
he
left
he
made.
He
assigned
me
the
the
drives.
I
think
I
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
I
can
still
see
the
old
drive,
so
I
need
to
get
that
information
copied
over
somehow
I.
E
I'm
wondering
if
like
what
we
can
do
to
advance
the
ball
on
this
project
like
I
would
love
to
get
involved
like
maybe
I
can
coordinate
with
madeleine
and
do
something
to
get.
I
know
you
guys
already
have
all
the
information,
but
maybe
strategize
how
to
process
it
and
maybe
put
together
a
plan
to
review
or
something.
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Yeah,
so
that
there's
like
some
mass
what
they
call
critical
mass
like
find
the
areas
of
critical
mass
in
the
city,
that
sort
of
can
start
to
be
anchors
for
the
districts,
but
I
think
too,
that
all
the
granular
information
should
be
preserved
in
the
process
as
an
accompanying
document,
so
that
like
when
this
is
done,
all
of
that
detail
is
not
lost.
There's
like
a
definitive
document
that
says
like
excuse
me,
my
dog
come
here
hey,
I
can't
get
too
mad
at
her.
She
has
seizures.
So
I
have
to
like
be
really.
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E
My
little
chihuahua
there's
like
somebody
here
for
the
census
or
something
I
can't
do
it
right
now,
but
yeah
like.
I
think
that,
like
there
could
be
a
document
to
a
company,
a
new
district
map
that
could
say
like
this
year.
This
is
what
we
did
and
then
each
district
could
have
its
own
like
pros
where
it's
like.
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These
were
subdivisions
at
one
point,
we
absorbed
them
for
this
reason,
kind
of
have
like
a
methods,
explanation
attached
to
it,
so
that
the
history
isn't
lost
and
that,
like
the
process,
is
transparent
so
that
we
can
move
forward
because
I
think
that's
probably
the
sticking
point
is
like
we
don't
want
to
lose
the
detail,
but
to
accomplish
the
greater
goal
we
have
to
like
kind
of
pull
the
trigger
on
some
of
the
decisions.
But
if
we
capture
that
detail
in
a
really
solid
document,
then
it's
not
lost.
I
It's
interesting
because
I
went
to
denver
and
said:
how
did
you
guys
do
it?
Because
you
know
how
you
can
go
into
and
it
says
this
is
blah
baker
neighborhood?
This
is
blah
blah
and
it
has
little
signs,
which
is
what
I
was
all
excited
about
us
doing
in
inglewood,
and
I
asked
how
they
did
it
and
they
said.
Oh,
it
was
political
hell.
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Yeah
well,
yeah
and
and
and
documenting
the
process.
I
love
that
I
think
that's
fantastic,
being
able
to
document
the
process
throughout
and
and
to
identify.
Well,
this
was
a
hard
decision,
but
this
is
how
we
got
to
it:
that's
fantastic
elaine!
I
I
copied
the
whole
board
here,
but
you
should
have
received
the
high
resolution
scan
of
the
work
that
we
had
done
previously.
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So
when
you
start
looking
at
this,
I
swear
to
god:
helene
you're
gonna
get
lost
because
we've
got
wollon
weber's,
broadway
heights,
jackson's
broadway
heights,
south
broadway
heights-
I
mean
it
is
hilarious.
Anyway.
I
look
forward
to
sharing
this
this
job
with
you,
I
and
to
see
what
we
can
do
and
how
we
can
do
it,
because
even
those
little
what
I
call
arms
that
go
off
towards
sheridan
and
gets
tucked
in
with
sheridan
and
littleton
over
there.
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The
building
department,
karen
montenez,
I
don't
know
any
idea
if
she's
in
she
may
be-
I
mean
it's
a
weird
time
for
building
departments.
So
in
a
way
I
kind
of
felt
bad
chasing
her,
because
I
I
can
imagine
the
stress
that
they're
under
right
now
with
with
everything,
but
I
did
actually
even
call
just
before
the
meeting
here
and.
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It
went
to
voicemail
left
voicemail,
so
I
was
hoping
to
catch
her.
I
mean
last
time
when
we
addressed
this
with
her.
It
was.
It
was
a
pretty
quick
thing.
We
were
able
to
get
in
front
of
her
quickly
and
but
I
I
don't
know
maybe
times
are
different,
but
I
emailed
her
and
gave
her
a
phone
call
and
left
a
message
so.
A
Let
me
try
reaching
out
to
her
one
more
time
and
if
she
doesn't
get
back
to
you
within
a
couple
days,
matt,
let
me
know
and
I'll
just
go
she's
just
down
the
hall
for
me.
So
I
can
just
go
down
and
talk
with
her,
but
I
do
know
that
they're
extremely
busy
lately
and
I
believe,
they're
short
staffed
as
well.
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And
I'm
sure
and-
and
I
can't
imagine
what
the
inspectors
are
going
through
right
now
having
to
deal
with
you-
know
inspections
with
craziness,
so
cool
I'll
I'll
update
the
group
I'll
set
a
reminder,
my
calendar,
to
update
the
group.
Let's
call
it
tuesday
next
week,
I'll
just
send
that
quick
email
and
let
you
know
if
I've
heard
back
that
good
or
do
you
want
to
give
a
little
more
time
eric.
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I
Because
I'm
going
to
throw
out
the
inglewood
historic
preservation
society
definitely
already
has
some
of
this
stuff
written
down
they're
going
to
be
doing
a
map
right,
matt,
something
that's
been
in
process
for
a
couple
years
there,
too
of
various
parts
of
inglewood
that
they
already
feel
should
be
they
we
should
should
be
determined
historic.
I
mean
that
list
is
already
created.
Is
that
what
we
would
call
the
limited
recognizance.
F
No,
that
would
be
more
like
background
research,
which
is
also
included
in
this,
as
I
think
it's
like.
The
first
bullet
point
is
conduct
thorough
research,
state
and
local
repositories
and
stuff,
so
they'd
be
speaking
to
be
reaching
out
to
people
like
the
historical
society
as
well
as
us
and
other
entities.
So
that
would
be
like
background
research.
That's
not
reconnaissance
survey.
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I
guess
that's
maybe
more
impression
for
comfort
with
the
the
city.
You
know
that's
something
that
if
they
want,
if
they
want
the
contract,
they're
going
to
have
to
sign
stuff
with
state
historical
fund
as
well
as
the
city,
so
I
think
it
would
be
covered
under
that.
But
certainly
if
there's
you
know
an
extra
layer
of
comfort
for
the
city,
that's
something
you
could
probably
stick
it
somewhere.
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F
If
you
remember,
when
the
historical
fund
outreach
folks
came
and
they
they
shared
some
documents
about
what
all
goes
in
there,
so
it's
not
just
saying
hey
that
looks
historic.
This
is
going
to
be
a
planning
document.
That'll
outline
steps
for
future
intensive
level
surveys,
potential
nominations
at
both
the
locals
at
the
local
state
national
level,
as
well
as
all
kinds
of
other
stuff.
A
Yeah,
so
next
steps
after
we
approve
the
scope
of
work
draft,
basically
jason.
I
was
gonna,
ask
you
for
so
requirements.
On
our
end,
we
need
to
reach
out
to
two
entities
to
get
estimates
of
what
it
would
cost
to
do
this
the
scope
of
work,
and
if
it
was
going
to
be
anything
over
the
15
000,
then
maybe
if
there
were
certain
areas
of
the
city
that
they
could
focus
on
somewhere
to,
like
maybe
scale
back
the
project
that
they
couldn't
do
the
whole
city.
F
Oh
well,
we
have
a
kind
of
a
self-designated
list
from
that
the
state
keeps
for
people
who
meet
the
secretary
interior
standards
for
qualifications,
but
yeah.
So
we
can
go
off
that
there's,
certainly
people.
I
would
think
that
are
worthwhile,
some
very
reputable
people
worth
asking
if
they
would
like
to
respond.
You
know,
there's
done
a
lot
of
this
work.
Three
gables,
which
is
diane
wilson,
barger,
has
done
a
lot
arch
professionals,
front
range
research
associates.
F
A
D
I
A
I
H
F
Open
it
more,
you
know
there
are
kind
of
boards
like
preserve
net
people,
put
up
rfps
and
things
like
that.
But
that's
like
a
nationwide
board.
I
think
it's
and
we
want
somebody
local,
so
kind
of
going
through
that
list
and
if
those
people
are
busy
which
they
may
be
some
of
the
folks
like
three
gables
they're
kind
of
cutting
down
on
their
work
because
they're
getting
close
to
retirement
stuff.
So
if
people
are
busy
you
know
we
can
there's
certainly
other
folks
to
reach
out
to.
I
F
I
G
A
B
A
A
I
Oh,
this
isn't
true
history,
but
our
historic
district,
arapah
acres
is
going
to
pay
having
a
choc
art
competition
on
september,
20th
it'll
be
judged
and
driveways
and
sidewalks.
I
can't
say
that
I'm
getting
people
busting
down
my
doors
for
chalk,
but
hopefully
we'll
get
people
if
you
guys
know
of
any
artist
that
might
be
interested
in
in
joining
us.
Just
give
them
my
number
and
let
them
call
me.
I
F
C
C
So
we
did
a
two-page
document
where
we
wrote
up
kind
of
a
summary
of
what
our
thoughts
were
with
the
plan,
but
then
also
kind
of
identifying
areas
that
we
didn't
think
existed
in
the
plan
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
trying
to
find
that
right
here,
I'll
I'll,
try
to
send
it
out
to
everybody,
so
you
can
read
it
it
was.
We
didn't.
C
I
think
what
we,
what
we
came
up
with
was
was
pretty
good.
It
was
kind
of
pointed
in
certain
areas.
It
definitely
identified
some
of
the
failures
with
the
design
of
the
city
center
and
the
fact
that
there
was
virtually
no
historic
or
even
character
in
city
center
that
other
than
the
old
macy's
building
or
broadway
southwest
building
there.
So
it's
kind
of
pointed
a
few
areas,
but
we
did
receive
confirmation
that
they're
amending
the
plan
and
including
some
of
our
recommendations.
I
B
G
A
H
But
it's
a
very
just
a
brief.
It's
a
very
broad
conversation
and
you
know
that
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
different
perspectives
on
growth.
You
know
it's
especially
in
districts.
One
and
two
you've
got
a
lot
of
older
houses
getting
knocked
down,
getting
replaced
with
a
couple
units.
I'd
say:
that's,
probably
one
of
the
most
primary
things
that
we
hear.
So
the
more
citizen
input
the
better,
if
you
guys
have
availability
that
might
be
great
for
anybody
to
listen
in
or
chime
in.
H
I
B
I
mean
we
do
all
have
a
zoning
map,
which
explains
a
lot
of
like
why
so
many
single-family
houses
are
being
knocked
down
in
the
northern
part
of
englewood
and
not
not
so
much
in
the
southern
part
of
englewood
and
it's
because
all
those
southern
part
ones
are
zoned
as
r1,
so
they
can't
build
a
duplex
or
a
triplex
on
that
lot.
So.
E
E
E
C
C
C
G
I
One
it,
I
guess
I
read
in
the
historic
society
newsletter
that
there's
six
or
eight
of
them
out
there,
and
so
I
finally
went
on
there
because
arapah
acres
was
done.
I
wasn't
too
excited
about
it.
I
already
did
talk
to
them.
It
didn't
bring
up
the
historians
that
worked
on
it
in
inglewood.
It
didn't
use
the
names
of
the
people,
our
architect
and
stuff
here
in
inglewood,
but
the
the
moments
in
history
is
a
cool
video.
It's
entertaining
and
get
yourself
on.
It
somehow
find
it
again.
I
You
can
just
type
in
inglewood
moments
in
history
boom
and
then
you
get
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
youtube,
but
it
would
be
nice
somehow,
I'm
not
getting
like
here.
It
is
and
eric.
I
don't
know
how
it's
being
disseminated
disseminated,
but
I
don't
have
anything
that
type
of
stuff
should
come
to
all
the
boards
and
commissions
just
because
they
spent
all
that
money
and
effort
to
create
it.
We
all
should
has
people
involved
with
the
english
city
government.