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From YouTube: August 19, 2020 Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
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B
B
A
A
Do
a
call
to
call
the
order
with
the
time
and
then
let's
do
real,
quick.
Oh.
B
It
is
6
34.,
so
let's,
let's
come
to
order.
A
Hey,
I
can
do
the
roll
call
if
you'd
like
melinda
here
lauren
is
currently
absent.
Jason
here,
matt.
A
A
Okay,
then
cj
is
currently
absent.
Helene.
A
And
council
member
questa
is
not
here.
B
All
right
has
everyone
reviewed
the
the
minutes
from
july
meeting?
F
F
So
I
guess,
unless
other
people
have
comments,
I
move
to
approve
the
minutes,
as
is.
G
B
A
new
thing
on
our
agenda
is
public
forum.
B
In
this
zoom
forum
are
there
any
here
comes
cj.
B
B
D
B
B
I
Cj
I
got
it,
but
I
was
trying
to
find
those
actual
numbers
and
I
can't
seem
to
find
16
whatever
that
thing.
B
I
I
know
I
have
a
copy
of
the.
B
The
ordinance
and
the
the
binder
that
we
originally
got
when
the
the
commission
first
met.
C
Quick
point
of
order
here,
sorry
to
be
out
of
kinda
out
of
place
with
this,
but
do
we
have
the
chat,
availability
and
zoom
here.
F
B
C
C
So
sixteen
six
eleven,
let
me
hold
on
a
second
sixteen
five
one
1655
all
right.
C
If
you
go
to
google
and
you
search
munico
inglewood,
you
will
get
the
entire.
C
Oh
yeah,
oh
stand
by
here
I
found
1611.,
I'm
sorry
dave.
What's
the
what's
the
one
I
missed
this
in
the
email
here
I
didn't
realize
you.
You
mentioned
this.
The
city
already
has
a
historic
preservation.
Oh
okay!
No
we
we
don't
need
title
two
chapter
15.
We
just
need
16,
6,
11
and
16
5
3..
Is
there
anything
else.
F
So
I
was
going
to
know
for
the
comments
that
the
city
attorney
forwarded.
You
know
the
very
first
like
bullet
point
to
have.
I
want
to
make
sure
to
note
that
that
is
not
accurate,
that
all
the
codes
proposed
impact
the
rights
of
private
property
owners,
because
you
can
have
it
where
it's
either
courtesy
review
by
staff
or
commission,
where
that's
just
something
between
planning
and
the
commission
or
you
can
also
have
things
where
it's
a
review
by
the
board,
but
it's
voluntary
compliance
by
the
property
owners.
F
So
it
would
just
be
one
of
those
things
where
it
could
come
in
front
of
the
board.
We
say:
well,
we
think
that
a
addition,
you're
gonna
you
want
to
put-
or
you
know
whatever
the
alteration
you
want
to
make
is
gonna
negatively
affect
this
historic
property
and
the
property
owner
can
say.
Thanks
for
your
comments,
that's
what
I
want
to
do.
I'm
gonna
do
it
anyway,
so
I
just.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
note
that
that
first,
that
number
one
to
propose
that
saying
that
they
all
propose
impact.
F
F
And
the
other
two
are
kind
of
things
like.
I
don't
think.
That's
what
we're
really
asking
for,
because
that's
kind
of
speaking
of
the
code
that
we
we.
F
Know
that
we
have
those,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
note
that
partic,
particularly
with
the
number
one
go.
H
Ahead,
well,
jason,
real
quick.
Those
are
good
points,
I'm
taking
notes
here,
so
I
can
respond
back
to
the
city
attorney
as
well.
Consider
this
a
a
two-way
conversation
also,
you
know
if
there's
things
that
maybe
were
were
misconstrued
on
that
end,
then
then
we'll
provide
the
clarification
we
can
keep
moving
it
forward.
Your
point
is
certainly
taking
on
the
first
one
in
the
second
and
third
as
well.
I
B
B
And
that
that
would
be
the
addition
to
the
the
ordinance
that,
if
we've
designated
a
thing
then
we
want,
we
want
to
weigh
in
if
they're
going
to
make
alterations
to
it.
F
Yeah,
the
you
know
again,
just
kind
of
I
know
I've
brought
it
up
before,
but
speaking
to
my
experience
as
a
preservation
planner
for
the
park
county
clg,
that's
how
they
headed
up
there,
just
knowing
that.
Obviously
a
very
rural
area
with
you
know,
ranchers
and
stuff
that
any
kind
of
more
heavy-handed
regulations
would
not
really
fly
up
there.
So
ours
was
just
courtesy,
review
and.
F
Would
get
stuffed
in
for
a
permit,
it
would
come
to
our
office.
You
know
myself
and
or
the
board
would
have
opportunity
to
review
and
comment
and
then
that
just
went
back
to
the
planning
office
and
they
included
those
comments
and
there
the
rest
of
their
work.
You.
I
I
F
So
that's,
but
but
again,
there's
obviously
examples
where
there's
a
lot
more
teeth
to
demolition
and
design
review.
But
there's
the
there's
the
whole
spectrum-
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
make
sure
that's
kind
of
captured.
H
Guess
I
that's
what
I'm
feeling
as
well,
I'm
going
to
you
know
when
I
say
we,
let's
I'll
point
that
at
me,
I'll
get
back
with
the
city
attorney
again.
I
appreciate
those
clarifications,
jason
and
the
way
you
describe
it
as
you
have
in
these
meetings
several
times.
It
certainly
varies
from,
I
think
with
which
she
took
it
to
be,
and
so
allow
me
to
make
that
distinction
with
her
and
then
kind
of
see
where
she
lands
after.
F
A
I
know
like
in
the
documents
that
you
had
forwarded
to
the
attorney.
There
was
only
certain
sections
of
them
that
we
wanted
to
look
at,
because
the
entire
document
discusses,
like
the
creation
of
the
hpc
kind
of
what
she
what
allison
had
referred
to
in
an
email,
the
creation
of
the
hpc
and
the
landmark
designation
criteria.
A
So
the
language
we
want
her
to
look
at
is
the
language
regarding
landmark
protections
and
the
difference
between
the
basic
and
the
limited
landmark
protections,
and
that
is
ultimately
going
to
be
up
to
you
guys,
I
think,
to
decide
the
language
you
want
to
bring
before
council,
because
that
will
require
a
change
to
title
16
code.
So
I
think
that
reaching
out
to
the
attorney,
though,
that
was
that
first
step.
B
Yeah,
he
would
say
well
we'll,
try
again
and
try
to
explain
better.
H
Yes,
well,
I
will
quickly
zoom
with
that
the
little
delay
I'm
a
bad
dance
partner,
I'm
an
even
worse,
zoom
conversationalist,
I'm
constantly
stepping
on
people's
senses.
So
pardon
me
melinda.
I
I
caught
your
sense
there.
It
is
eric!
Well,
I've
got
the
muni
code
up
right
now
too,
can
you
point
me
to
exactly
the
the
section
that
we
want
her
to
look
at
just
so
that
I'm
clear
when,
when
I
get
back
with
her
again.
A
So
it's
actually
not
the
section,
that's
in
our
unicode,
it's
actually
the
sections
on
the
two
documents
that
I
had
sent
you
in
the
email-
and
I
think
I
recalled
the
sections
out
in
that
an
email.
I
said
I
think
in
the
limited
section,
it's
sections
three
and
four
and
then
in
the
basics.
Section
it's
sections
four
through
eight
is
what
we
would
want
her
to
look
at.
H
Again,
the
further
clarification
from
you
guys
as
well.
F
Yeah,
I
think
we're
just
kind
of
looking
for
the
feasibility
of
you
know
her
thoughts
on
the
feasibility
of
those
different
levels.
I
get
kind
of
from.
You
know,
perhaps
from
her
response
that
there
may
not
be
a
whole
lot
of
appetite
for
the
more
harder
line,
regulations
but
yeah
just
kind
of
seeing
you
know
what
she
thought
would
be
the
most
feasible
to
bring.
B
B
So
we'll
we'll
work
on
our
study
session
presentation
after
we
refine
that
that
a
little
bit.
B
So
our
next
item
is
the
neighborhood
mapping
and
designations,
and
I'd
hope
that
madeleine
would
have
been
here
to
explain
what
kind
of
input
she's
gotten
from
the.
B
Whatever
she
put
up,
I
never
got
a
link
to
it.
So
did
anyone
else.
C
I
believe
I
did
cj
did
you
get?
Did
you
get
a
link
to
the
map?
I
B
G
I
I
C
C
B
Well,
so
we
don't
really
know
what's
what's
going
on
with
that.
I
Well,
I
think
she
just
has
it
out
there.
I
think
it's
truly
just
a
fluid
thing
going
on
the
thing
she
sent
me
had
to
do
with
it
seemed
like
there
was
one.
What
was
just
so
you
know.
The
first
thing
I
thought
was
interesting
is
when
I
went
to
inglewood
and
typed
in
maps.
I
got
all
these
maps,
but
none
of
madeleine's
maps-
and
I
was
like
oh
that
was
interesting,
so
I
don't
know
eric.
If
that's
something
you
could
look
into,
I
don't.
I
A
C
Okay,
our
area
is
indicated
blend
of
our
area
is
indicated
as
straight
by
knights.
There's
a
weird
one
down
here,
though,
that's
athletic
complex,
sandra's
subdivision,
mitchum's
subdivision.
I
don't
recall
those.
C
I
B
I
do
get
emails
from
eric,
but
not
that
one.
A
I
Gotta
be,
do
you
remember
way
back
when
we
had
ever
since
the
get-go?
I
wasn't
getting
things
from
you
guys.
I
wonder
if.
G
I
B
I
know
for
a
long
while
aol
couldn't
handle
attachments.
I
I
B
C
Well,
here
I
got
an
idea.
I
got
an
idea
standby
am
I
allowed
to
screen
share.
A
A
You
are
allowed
to
screen
share.
I
was
just
double
checking
melinda
your
email
address.
I
have
as
elswickm
at
earthlink.net.
That's.
B
A
I
C
C
If
there's
anything
you'd
like
me
to
stop
on,
I
certainly
can't
hear
we
go
down
to
dartmouth.
So
this
is
our
area
here,
blind.
C
B
C
Which
is
odd
because
there's
sherman
street
residences
subdivision,
which
is
sherman
and
cornell-
that's
right,
the
street
from
me.
That's
the
those
goofy
looking
modern
things
that
they
built
there,
the
triplex
there
on
the
corner
of.
B
C
B
Well-
and
I
I
know
on
the
sanborn
maps,
for
instance,
strayer's
broadway
heights
is
like
stops,
half
of
a
block
or
in
the
middle
of
a
block.
C
C
No,
I
don't
think
it
was
even
all
the
way
to
lincoln.
It
was
just
a
road
between
sherman
and
grant
right
through
the
middle
of
this
block,
so
that
I
believe
that's
the
half
block
you're,
referring
to.
B
I
C
F
D
G
E
There's
a
big
chunk
of
district
4,
that's
unnamed
kind
of
surprisingly
it's
just
west
of
broadway
like
just
south
of
oxford,
and
it's
actually
that's
where
I
am,
and
so
that's
why
I
saw
it
and
it's
actually
like
a
big
chunk
of
it
kind
of
to
jason's
park
between
broadway
and
jason's
park
between
oxford
and
quincy
extra.
E
Yeah
between
oxford
and
quincy,
like
just
it's
just
on
the
west
side
of
broadway
from
isn't
it,
I
think,
on
the
east
side,
it's
broadway
heights
or
south
broadway
heights,
or
something
like
that
right
on
the
west
side,
it's
completely
unnamed.
E
C
G
E
I
C
E
There's
some
like,
like
districts
that
already
have
like
names
that
have
been
embraced,
maybe
like
find
some
of
the
larger
districts
and
have
them
like
absorb
the
smaller
ones
or
like
the
adjacent,
unnamed
ones,
and
maybe
try
to
use
natural
features
like.
Are
we
allowed
to
do
that
to
just
propose,
like
our
own.
I
C
Mike
yeah
mike
jones,
cj
and
mike
jones
worked
on
and
they
took
information
from
the
county
and
the
county
records
and
kind
of
created,
an
overlay
map
of
the
city,
and
you
know,
realistically,
the
county
information
is
relatively
accurate.
Right
cj
I
mean.
I
Yeah,
but
the
problem
remember
like
what
he
was
finding
was
that
it's
it's
piecemeal,
there's
certain
subdivisions
that
were
substantial,
I
mean
like
you've
got
the
carnation
subdivision
on
the
other
side
of
broadway
is
that
where
twin
dragons
is
or
something
and
the
idea
that
you
know
certain
places
came
up
on
the
sanborn,
those
different
maps
that
we
merged
together,
I
would
have
to
say
the
sanborns.
Don't
you
think
melinda
yeah
and.
C
C
Don't
indicate
don't
indicate
subdivisions,
do
they.
I
C
I
I
imagine
linda
lucky
madeline,
looking
at
this
and
going
well
now
I
put
it
out
there.
I
mean
it's
been
months
literally
months
that
she's
put
out
for
people
to
put
in
what
do
they
call
their
neighborhoods
and
she's
got
a
few
that
are
a
couple
of
blocks.
She's
got
a
few
that
feel
they're
a
bigger
neighborhood
and
the
even
the
broadway
style.
Probably
heights.
That's
huge!
There's
she's
got
pockets
in
there,
people
that
feel
they're.
These
kind
of
you
know
different
names
so
seeing
that
overlapped.
B
G
B
Our
our
original
intent
was
to
to
show
people
where
they're
in
a
historic
area
and
have
them
be
able
to
take
some
pride
in
the
history
of
of
inglewood
and
the
locations
they're
in.
C
B
C
I
I
C
I
A
That
I
thought
that
that
was
what
would
be
the
joint
project
with
madeleine
would
be,
was
to
kind
of
put
everybody's
heads
together
and
figure
out
what
would
be
maybe.
F
I
Well,
like
I
said
I
mean
she
didn't.
Obviously
I
don't
I
can't
say
percentages.
I
don't
know
if
she
got
five
percent
or
25
percent
response
rate,
but
again
even
she
said
there
was
even
one
neighborhood
that
felt
they
were
very
close,
but
they
they
felt
that
their
neighborhood
was
different.
You
know
so
she
had
some
overlap.
I
B
Well
and
that's
sort
of
madeline's
remit
and
ours
is
slightly
different.
I
mean
we're
looking
at
the
the
history
and
the
historicness
of
it
and
she's
looking
at
neighborhood
neighborly
communities.
E
What,
if
maybe
like
a
small
team,
got
together
like
of
two
or
three
people
to
to
start
like
maybe
putting
some
stuff
down
like
just
drawing
hand-drawing
borders
and
then
bringing
it
to
the
community
for
like
revisions
until
there's
something
that
everyone
on
the
committee
agrees
with
and
then
put
that
forward?
I
E
I
Got
from
arapahoe
county.
I
But
the
one
the
one
I
gave
madeline
has
all
the
marker
markings
like
what
you're
thinking
of
helene,
where
again
like
where
I
said
where
something
was
carnation
subdivision,
because
that's
where
the
carnation
farm
was,
you
know.
I
But
I
mean
there
was
definitely
a
time
I
mean
doug
cohen
remembers,
broadway
hampden
floyd
even
to
dartmouth
didn't
have
houses
in
it
for
the
longest
time,
because
it
was
a
flood
zone.
It
was
where
all
the
water
drain
off
went.
I
E
I
B
In
fact,
we're
gonna
have
it
at
the
block
party.
B
The
society
was
going
to
have
it
at
the
block
party
to
for
people
to.
B
Mind
and
well
and
and
doug,
did
that
flyer
and
actually
and
did
a
thing
on
next
door
about.
Are
you
living
in
a
historic
house
and
got
a
couple
hundred
replies
that
people
actually
knew
quite
a
lot
about
their
houses.
B
Actually
yeah,
it's
not.
I
would
need
to
send
helena
an
invitation
to
the
the
google
drive.
I
guess.
C
We've
got:
we've
got
information
all
over
the
place
on
a
couple
different
google
drives,
and
I
think
when
when
mike,
where
was
that
mike?
I
can't
remember
his
name
tonight
when
he
left
he
made.
He
assigned
me
the
the
drives.
I
think
I
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
I
can
still
see
the
old
drive,
so
I
need
to
get
that
information
copied
over
somehow
I.
E
Well,
I
love
this
project
like
I
love
what
you
all
are
trying
to
do
and
to
see
like
big
sections
of
the
map,
unnamed
and
and
others
like
so
granule
that
it's
not
really
serving
its
purpose.
E
I'm
wondering
if
like
what
we
can
do
to
advance
the
ball
on
this
project
like
I
would
love
to
get
involved
like
maybe
I
can
coordinate
with
madeleine
and
do
something
to
get.
I
know
you
guys
already
have
all
the
information,
but
maybe
strategize
how
to
process
it
and
maybe
put
together
a
plan
to
review
or
something.
I
I
mean
the
idea
of
me
being
with
you
just
purely
for
the
history
of
the
project.
I
think,
would
be
cool,
obviously,
with
you
and
madeline
new
eyes
and
and
new
perspectives
and
again
taking
this
little
tidbit
of
information,
but
making
it
into
groupings.
E
Yeah,
so
that
there's
like
some
mass
what
they
call
critical
mass
like
find
the
areas
of
critical
mass
in
the
city,
that
sort
of
can
start
to
be
anchors
for
the
districts,
but
I
think
too,
that
all
the
granular
information
should
be
preserved
in
the
process
as
an
accompanying
document,
so
that
like
when
this
is
done,
all
of
that
detail
is
not
lost.
There's
like
a
definitive
document
that
says
like
excuse
me,
my
dog
come
here
hey,
I
can't
get
too
mad
at
her.
She
has
seizures.
So
I
have
to
like
be
really.
E
E
My
little
chihuahua
there's
like
somebody
here
for
the
census
or
something
I
can't
do
it
right
now,
but
yeah
like.
I
think
that,
like
there
could
be
a
document
to
a
company,
a
new
district
map
that
could
say
like
this
year.
This
is
what
we
did
and
then
each
district
could
have
its
own
like
pros
where
it's
like.
E
These
were
subdivisions
at
one
point,
we
absorbed
them
for
this
reason,
kind
of
have
like
a
methods,
explanation
attached
to
it,
so
that
the
history
isn't
lost
and
that,
like
the
process,
is
transparent
so
that
we
can
move
forward
because
I
think
that's
probably
the
sticking
point
is
like
we
don't
want
to
lose
the
detail,
but
to
accomplish
the
greater
goal
we
have
to
like
kind
of
pull
the
trigger
on
some
of
the
decisions.
But
if
we
capture
that
detail
in
a
really
solid
document,
then
it's
not
lost.
I
It's
interesting
because
I
went
to
denver
and
said:
how
did
you
guys
do
it?
Because
you
know
how
you
can
go
into
and
it
says
this
is
blah
baker
neighborhood?
This
is
blah
blah
and
it
has
little
signs,
which
is
what
I
was
all
excited
about
us
doing
in
inglewood,
and
I
asked
how
they
did
it
and
they
said.
Oh,
it
was
political
hell.
G
I
E
C
Yeah
well,
yeah
and
and
and
documenting
the
process.
I
love
that
I
think
that's
fantastic,
being
able
to
document
the
process
throughout
and
and
to
identify.
Well,
this
was
a
hard
decision,
but
this
is
how
we
got
to
it:
that's
fantastic
elaine!
I
I
copied
the
whole
board
here,
but
you
should
have
received
the
high
resolution
scan
of
the
work
that
we
had
done
previously.
B
B
I
just
sent
to
lean
the
the
pdf,
the
of.
B
Map
which
might
take
a
while
to
arrive
because
it's
a
big
file.
C
And
cj
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
this.
But
it
sounds
as
though
the
printed
text
in
the
areas
was
information
that
arapahoe
county
had
in
their
records
and
provided
eis
and
then
the
notations.
C
Oh
well,
it's
good.
It's
a
lot
better
than
mine,
but
the
the
notations,
I
think
were
was
work
that
was
done
as
kind
of
initial
adjustments.
C
I
G
C
B
Yeah
male,
you
know
the
occupant
type
of
things
that
are
that
think.
I'm
in
cherry
hills,
village,.
C
Same
deal
here,
but
if
so
there's
a
subdivision
in
in
cherry
hills
right
across
the
street
from
clarkson,
I
can't
remember
exactly
where
it's
at,
but.
E
I
So
when
you
start
looking
at
this,
I
swear
to
god:
helene
you're
gonna
get
lost
because
we've
got
wollon
weber's,
broadway
heights,
jackson's
broadway
heights,
south
broadway
heights-
I
mean
it
is
hilarious.
Anyway.
I
look
forward
to
sharing
this
this
job
with
you,
I
and
to
see
what
we
can
do
and
how
we
can
do
it,
because
even
those
little
what
I
call
arms
that
go
off
towards
sheridan
and
gets
tucked
in
with
sheridan
and
littleton
over
there.
I
E
G
G
I
E
B
E
I
Sounds
good.
Do
me
a
favor
if
you
don't
have
my
information
after
this
when
everybody's
closing
off,
if
you
and
I
could
just
share
our
numbers
right
away,
so
we
can
start
figuring
out
what
days
and
times
work
best.
E
B
And
in
the
non-virtual
days
we
could
just
you
know,
ask
those
questions
or
write
them
all
down
in
our
notes,
and
so
times
are
a
little
different.
Now.
B
Next
yeah
yeah,
so
let's,
let's
move
on
actually
the
city's
response
to
the
wish
list.
The
city
hasn't
responded.
Matt
is
that
right.
C
H
I,
and
you
know
eric
I'll,
definitely
defer
to
you.
I
thought
many
folks
were
back
in
in
the
office.
I
think
that
there's
some
that
are
home
for
various
medical
purposes,
but
who
do
you
mind
me
asking
who
you're
reaching
out
to
or
which
department.
C
The
building
department,
karen
montenez,
I
don't
know
any
idea
if
she's
in
she
may
be-
I
mean
it's
a
weird
time
for
building
departments.
So
in
a
way
I
kind
of
felt
bad
chasing
her,
because
I
I
can
imagine
the
stress
that
they're
under
right
now
with
with
everything,
but
I
did
actually
even
call
just
before
the
meeting
here
and.
C
It
went
to
voicemail
left
voicemail,
so
I
was
hoping
to
catch
her.
I
mean
last
time
when
we
addressed
this
with
her.
It
was.
It
was
a
pretty
quick
thing.
We
were
able
to
get
in
front
of
her
quickly
and
but
I
I
don't
know
maybe
times
are
different,
but
I
emailed
her
and
gave
her
a
phone
call
and
left
a
message
so.
A
Let
me
try
reaching
out
to
her
one
more
time
and
if
she
doesn't
get
back
to
you
within
a
couple
days,
matt,
let
me
know
and
I'll
just
go
she's
just
down
the
hall
for
me.
So
I
can
just
go
down
and
talk
with
her,
but
I
do
know
that
they're
extremely
busy
lately
and
I
believe,
they're
short
staffed
as
well.
F
C
And
I'm
sure
and-
and
I
can't
imagine
what
the
inspectors
are
going
through
right
now
having
to
deal
with
you-
know
inspections
with
craziness,
so
cool
I'll
I'll
update
the
group
I'll
set
a
reminder,
my
calendar,
to
update
the
group.
Let's
call
it
tuesday
next
week,
I'll
just
send
that
quick
email
and
let
you
know
if
I've
heard
back
that
good
or
do
you
want
to
give
a
little
more
time
eric.
B
B
Now
did
everybody
read
eric's
draft
of
the
scope
of
work
for
the
the
the
survey
for
the
rfp
for
the
survey.
I
A
Well,
let's
they
talk
about
that
in
the
actual
grant,
packet
paperwork,
but.
A
Speak
to
more
to
that,
I
don't
remember
what
that
was
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
believe
it
was
like
maybe
a
windshield
survey.
F
Yeah,
so
that's
what
it
means,
rather
than
you
know,
there's
kind
of
different
levels
for
reconnaissance-
and
this
is
yeah
like
eric,
said,
a
windshield
survey,
so
they're
not
gonna,
be
producing
individual
site
forms
for
reconnaissance
forms
for
properties,
because
this
is
a
really
broad
planning
document.
F
So
yeah,
that's
what
they
mean
by
limited
is
they're
not
going
to
be
producing.
Like,
I
said
those
reconnaissance,
I
think
their
numbers
like
1405
site
forms
for
for
it.
So.
I
F
Reconnaissance
survey
is
just
you
know,
kind
of
quick
look
at
things
and
so
we're
kind
of
if
you're
saying
like
a
full
reconnaissance
survey,
you'd
make
limited
forms,
but
this
is
just
a
windshield
survey:
they're
not
going
to
produce
individual
forms
for
buildings,
they're
just
going
to
go
around
the
city
and
identify
characteristics
of
various
areas.
I
F
Well,
I
think
the
the
it
depends
on
the
stipulations
of
the
state
historical
fund.
As
far
as
duration,
I
think
it's
usually
like
a
year.
They
have
to
complete
it
with
a
certain
deliverables.
F
I
Because
I'm
going
to
throw
out
the
inglewood
historic
preservation
society
definitely
already
has
some
of
this
stuff
written
down
they're
going
to
be
doing
a
map
right,
matt,
something
that's
been
in
process
for
a
couple
years
there,
too
of
various
parts
of
inglewood
that
they
already
feel
should
be
they
we
should
should
be
determined
historic.
I
mean
that
list
is
already
created.
Is
that
what
we
would
call
the
limited
recognizance.
F
No,
that
would
be
more
like
background
research,
which
is
also
included
in
this,
as
I
think
it's
like.
The
first
bullet
point
is
conduct
thorough
research,
state
and
local
repositories
and
stuff,
so
they'd
be
speaking
to
be
reaching
out
to
people
like
the
historical
society
as
well
as
us
and
other
entities.
So
that
would
be
like
background
research.
That's
not
reconnaissance
survey.
D
F
I
guess
that's
maybe
more
impression
for
comfort
with
the
the
city.
You
know
that's
something
that
if
they
want,
if
they
want
the
contract,
they're
going
to
have
to
sign
stuff
with
state
historical
fund
as
well
as
the
city,
so
I
think
it
would
be
covered
under
that.
But
certainly
if
there's
you
know
an
extra
layer
of
comfort
for
the
city,
that's
something
you
could
probably
stick
it
somewhere.
F
I
wouldn't
recommend
doing
that.
I
would
we'd
want
to.
I
would
be
since
it's
their
money.
We'd
have
to
go
with
what
say
historical
fund
says
it
cannot.
It
can
also
be
the
fact
that
six
months,
that's
you
know
a
pretty
tight
window
to
complete
a
large
project
like
this.
F
So
I
would
not
recommend
pushing
really
tight
timelines
beyond
what
the
say
historical
fund
has
for
their
requirements.
I
F
If
you
remember,
when
the
historical
fund
outreach
folks
came
and
they
they
shared
some
documents
about
what
all
goes
in
there,
so
it's
not
just
saying
hey
that
looks
historic.
This
is
going
to
be
a
planning
document.
That'll
outline
steps
for
future
intensive
level
surveys,
potential
nominations
at
both
the
locals
at
the
local
state
national
level,
as
well
as
all
kinds
of
other
stuff.
F
B
As
as
long
as
the
the
bidders
understand
that
we
have
to
have
their
bid,
so
we
can
apply
for
a
grant.
A
Yeah,
so
next
steps
after
we
approve
the
scope
of
work
draft,
basically
jason.
I
was
gonna,
ask
you
for
so
requirements.
On
our
end,
we
need
to
reach
out
to
two
entities
to
get
estimates
of
what
it
would
cost
to
do
this
the
scope
of
work,
and
if
it
was
going
to
be
anything
over
the
15
000,
then
maybe
if
there
were
certain
areas
of
the
city
that
they
could
focus
on
somewhere
to,
like
maybe
scale
back
the
project
that
they
couldn't
do
the
whole
city.
A
So
we
need
to
get
two
estimates
from
two
different
companies
and
jason's
going
to
ask
you,
since
you
are
familiar
with
that,
if
you
want
to
give,
if
you
have
any
good
ideas,
if
you
have
some
recommendations
of
who
to
send
this,
to
that
would
be
our
next
step.
F
Oh
well,
we
have
a
kind
of
a
self-designated
list
from
that
the
state
keeps
for
people
who
meet
the
secretary
interior
standards
for
qualifications,
but
yeah.
So
we
can
go
off
that
there's,
certainly
people.
I
would
think
that
are
worthwhile,
some
very
reputable
people
worth
asking
if
they
would
like
to
respond.
You
know,
there's
done
a
lot
of
this
work.
Three
gables,
which
is
diane
wilson,
barger,
has
done
a
lot
arch
professionals,
front
range
research
associates.
F
F
List
that
we
can
kind
of
go
off
as
well,
so
if
the
requirements
too
then
yeah,
we
could
kind.
A
D
I
A
So
it's
just
required
to
get
two
estimates
on
our
end.
I
think
if
we
want
to
send
it
to
other
companies
to
take
a
look
at,
I
think
we
can.
I
would
definitely
want
to
approve
that
with
the
community
development
director,
first
just
to
make
sure
we're
following
protocol.
I.
I
F
Yeah,
absolutely,
and
just
as
a
side
note,
for
you
know
if
there
is
a
reason.
H
F
Open
it
more,
you
know
there
are
kind
of
boards
like
preserve
net
people,
put
up
rfps
and
things
like
that.
But
that's
like
a
nationwide
board.
I
think
it's
and
we
want
somebody
local,
so
kind
of
going
through
that
list
and
if
those
people
are
busy
which
they
may
be
some
of
the
folks
like
three
gables
they're
kind
of
cutting
down
on
their
work
because
they're
getting
close
to
retirement
stuff.
So
if
people
are
busy
you
know
we
can
there's
certainly
other
folks
to
reach
out
to.
I
F
Well,
no,
I
mean
I
mean
that's
certainly
another
option.
She
knows
inglewood
she's,
another
person,
who's
kind
of
scaled
back,
the
amount
of
work
she's
doing,
but
certainly
she
knows
a
lot
of
inglewood
stuff.
So
definitely
another
good
option.
I
I
throw
out
two
you
guys
may
know
this.
This
is
a
little
aside.
Her
husband,
ray
tommaso,
died
a
while
back
so
just
fyi.
G
A
Okay,
so
any
other
comments
regarding
the
scope
of
work.
If
it's
okay,
I
would
like
a
motion
to
approve
from
you
guys
and
then
basically
that'll,
give
me
the
jurisdiction
and
community
development
to
start
reaching
out
to
get
so
moved.
B
All
right
and
this
this
was
actually
the
subject
that
I'd
put
as
a
new
business,
and
somebody
altered
my
agenda
and
put
it
under
old
business.
So,
but
we
we've
done
that
already
now,
so
I
think
we're
down
to
staff's
choice.
A
Okay-
and
I
don't
really
have
anything
this
month-
hopefully
we'll
get
some
estimates
by
next
month's
meeting
and
then
the
next
step
will
be
getting
the
rfp
approved
by
city
council.
So
that's
about
all.
I
have
online.
B
And
at
that
point
we
can
apply
for
what
we
have
the
rf
yep.
A
Of
the
city
attorneys
the
grant
application
and
the
packet,
so
he
is
reviewing
that
right
now,
so
we
should
be
ready
to
move
forward
pretty
quickly
when
we
get
the
estimates.
Hopefully.
I
Oh,
this
isn't
true
history,
but
our
historic
district,
arapah
acres
is
going
to
pay
having
a
choc
art
competition
on
september,
20th
it'll
be
judged
and
driveways
and
sidewalks.
I
can't
say
that
I'm
getting
people
busting
down
my
doors
for
chalk,
but
hopefully
we'll
get
people
if
you
guys
know
of
any
artist
that
might
be
interested
in
in
joining
us.
Just
give
them
my
number
and
let
them
call
me.
I
F
C
The
only
thing
I
have
is
from
the
english
historic
preservation
society.
We
created
a
kind
of
response
to
the
inglewood
downtown
matters
plan,
as
the
city
city
manager
asked
for
input
on
that.
C
So
we
did
a
two-page
document
where
we
wrote
up
kind
of
a
summary
of
what
our
thoughts
were
with
the
plan,
but
then
also
kind
of
identifying
areas
that
we
didn't
think
existed
in
the
plan
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
trying
to
find
that
right
here,
I'll
I'll,
try
to
send
it
out
to
everybody,
so
you
can
read
it
it
was.
We
didn't.
C
I
think
what
we,
what
we
came
up
with
was
was
pretty
good.
It
was
kind
of
pointed
in
certain
areas.
It
definitely
identified
some
of
the
failures
with
the
design
of
the
city
center
and
the
fact
that
there
was
virtually
no
historic
or
even
character
in
city
center
that
other
than
the
old
macy's
building
or
broadway
southwest
building
there.
So
it's
kind
of
pointed
a
few
areas,
but
we
did
receive
confirmation
that
they're
amending
the
plan
and
including
some
of
our
recommendations.
I
B
Well,
yeah
the
one
one,
the
lighting
store,
which
still
had
the
the
painted
sign
that
says
they're
parking
in
the
rear
on
lincoln
street,
which
there
isn't
but
dates
from
when
it
did.
B
Did
anyone
else
get
noticed
or
know
anything
about
the
the
city
on
what
september?
Second
is
going
to
have
a
a
town
hall
to
discuss
zoning.
G
A
Mean
I
think,
that's
for
the
title
16
update,
which
is
our
zoning
code
chapter.
I
believe
that's
what
it
is.
Yeah.
H
But
it's
a
very
just
a
brief.
It's
a
very
broad
conversation
and
you
know
that
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
different
perspectives
on
growth.
You
know
it's
especially
in
districts.
One
and
two
you've
got
a
lot
of
older
houses
getting
knocked
down,
getting
replaced
with
a
couple
units.
I'd
say:
that's,
probably
one
of
the
most
primary
things
that
we
hear.
So
the
more
citizen
input
the
better,
if
you
guys
have
availability
that
might
be
great
for
anybody
to
listen
in
or
chime
in.
H
If
you
have
thoughts
of
your
own,
but
that
is
going
to
be,
I
I
believe
they
said
it's
going
to
take
the
course
of
a
year
to
get
title
16
entirely,
rewritten
the
more
input
they
can
get
from
citizens,
though
I
think
that
they
want
to
go
about
doing
that
for
a
good
portion
of
that
year,
so
they
can
get
as
much
feedback
as
possible.
H
I
B
I
mean
we
do
all
have
a
zoning
map,
which
explains
a
lot
of
like
why
so
many
single-family
houses
are
being
knocked
down
in
the
northern
part
of
englewood
and
not
not
so
much
in
the
southern
part
of
englewood
and
it's
because
all
those
southern
part
ones
are
zoned
as
r1,
so
they
can't
build
a
duplex
or
a
triplex
on
that
lot.
So.
B
Interesting
then,
thank
you
for
that
that
picture
of
the
the
guy
in
the
1918
mask
helene.
E
E
E
C
If
anybody-
I
don't
know,
if
anybody
listens
to
radio
lab
on
npr,
they
did
a
special
on
the
1918
spanish
flu
and
and
how
it
changed
the
course
of
history
and
in
many
cases
it's
really
fascinating.
So.
I
But
just
type
in
spanish
flu.
C
I
let
only
see
what
the
name
of
it
was.
It
was
really
good.
It
talked
about
the
historic
effect,
because
the
president
at
the
time
got
the
spanish
flu,
the
u.s
president,
at
the
time
that
spanish
flew
and
it
affected
the
negotiations
with
after
world
war.
One
on
the.
C
President's
name,
so
thank
you
for
that.
Well
done
on
american
history,
the
according
to
radio
lab
where
woodrow
wilson
had
the
spanish
flu
and
it's
it's
dispatches
from
1918,
is
what
it's
called.
B
I
know
I
know
he
wilson
had
a
stroke
while
he
was
in
office,
and
mrs
wilson
was
running
the
country
for
a
while
that
their
presidency
being
not
as
visible
then
as
it
was
now.
G
I
Oh,
I
guess
one
more
thing:
the
inglewood
moments
in
history.
Are
you
guys
getting
those.
I
One
it,
I
guess
I
read
in
the
historic
society
newsletter
that
there's
six
or
eight
of
them
out
there,
and
so
I
finally
went
on
there
because
arapah
acres
was
done.
I
wasn't
too
excited
about
it.
I
already
did
talk
to
them.
It
didn't
bring
up
the
historians
that
worked
on
it
in
inglewood.
It
didn't
use
the
names
of
the
people,
our
architect
and
stuff
here
in
inglewood,
but
the
the
moments
in
history
is
a
cool
video.
It's
entertaining
and
get
yourself
on.
It
somehow
find
it
again.
I
You
can
just
type
in
inglewood
moments
in
history
boom
and
then
you
get
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
youtube,
but
it
would
be
nice
somehow,
I'm
not
getting
like
here.
It
is
and
eric.
I
don't
know
how
it's
being
disseminated
disseminated,
but
I
don't
have
anything
that
type
of
stuff
should
come
to
all
the
boards
and
commissions
just
because
they
spent
all
that
money
and
effort
to
create
it.
We
all
should
has
people
involved
with
the
english
city
government.
I
I
don't
know
who's
responsible
for
sending
it
out,
but
obviously
it's
greg
and
oh
shoot
lucia
that
are
doing
it
but
who's
in
charge
of
to
getting
it
out.
I
couldn't
tell
you,
but
what's
nice
is
you're
in
that
building,
so
that
narrows
it
down
right
to
only
a
few
people
well
in.
A
Yeah
they're
in
our
communications
department.
A
Okay,
yeah:
I
can
run
that
by
him
and
see
if
see
how
they're
sending
that
out.
H
I
H
H
But
I
believe
so,
yes,
that
there
and
frankly
it's
a
great
promotion
for
the
city
and
it
should
be
out
there
more
I've
found
each
one
entertaining
myself.
You
know
they're
bite-sized.
It
doesn't
take
too
much
attention.
The
last
the
three
four
minutes
and
they're
all
good
stories.
H
B
Say
did
everyone
else
get
a
a
bandana
from
the
the
city
with
the
city,
logo
and
stuff
on
it?
What
are
we
supposed
to
do
with
those?
I
don't
know
you
can't
say
you
don't
have
a
mask.
I
B
Yeah,
it
kind
of
missed,
and
I
didn't
know
whether
it
was
just
boards
and
commissions
that
they
got
it
or
whether
everybody
in
inglewood
got
one
or.