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From YouTube: Historic Preservation Commission Meeting May 18, 2022
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1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes
Draft April 20, 2022 Minutes
3. Public Forum
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4. Old Business
Neighborhood Maps- Update i. Final changes and suggestions/comments from City Council
Historic survey progress report from Pinyon- Follow up from previous meeting i. Englewood Historic Survey Draft ii. Questions/comments noted by commission members
CodeNext discussion- Follow up from previous meeting i. Update from Community Development Planning Manager, Bryan Isham ii. HPC involvement with future CodeNext meeting iii. Keeping attention focused ...
5. New Business
June Open House Event/Public Engagement
Future meetings format i. Stay virtual, back in person, or hybrid?
6. Staff's Choice
7. Commissioner's Choice
8. Adjournment
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Yeah,
so
that's
three,
I
don't
know
is
that
I
don't
know
if
that's
enough
to
approve
the
minutes
jason.
What
you
could
do
is
what
I've
done
in
in
situations
like
this
in
the
past
is
what
you
could
do
is
just
go
on
record
and
say
I
reviewed
the
minutes
and
I
approve
of
what
they
say
or
agree
to
what
was
said,
and
then
that
basically
puts
you
in
a
position
to
vote.
If
you
would
like
to.
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All
right,
seeing
none
or
hearing
none
that
will
take
us
to
old
business
with
the
first
item
being
the
neighborhood
maps,
update
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
matt,
since
you
were
at
the
council
session,
I
I
don't
know
who
else
went,
I
couldn't
be
there.
I
think
I
mentioned
last
time
I
was
in
trial
when
that
session
happened.
G
G
F
Okay,
awesome:
I
thought
it
went
really
well.
Council
just
had
two,
no
just
one
neighborhood
that
they
would
like
us
to
review,
and
then
I
actually
had
a
neighbor
reach
out
for
me,
reach
out
to
me
from
forest
hill
neighborhood,
and
when
we
drew
the
map,
we
actually
got
their
north
border
incorrect.
That
north
border
should
go
up
to
yale,
not
where
we
have
it
cut
off
right
now.
F
G
Yes,
so
to
review
it,
I
had
a
conversation
with
councilmember,
woodward
and
council
member
mayor
pro
tem.
His
name
is
activity,
rare,
steve
ward,
and
I
had
conversations
with
them
after
the
meeting.
They
both
felt
fairly
strongly
about
renaming
leland
heights
as
the
after
the
school.
That's
in
that
area
there's
also
a
fair
bit
of
history
around
the
clayton
family
and
name
in
englewood.
They
were
lions.
There
was
they're
pretty
prominent
in
in
englewood.
G
G
What
would
this
be?
I
guess
it's
kind
of
this.
It's
not
really
the
center.
It's
the
southwest
corner
of
the
city,
the
belle
isle
neighborhood.
We
were
asked.
I
was
asked
by
council
member
woodward,
the
history
of
the
bill
out
name,
and
it
is
a
rather
prominent
subdivision
that
exists
existed
in
that
area.
Now,
it's
largely
commercial
in
that
part
of
kingdomwood,
but
there
was
different
subdivision
names
that
did
exist,
not
many
of
them
and
we
didn't
have
a
whole
lot
to
choose
from
in
that
area.
G
But
belle
isle
seemed
to
be
less
commercial
and
well
honestly,
it
was
the
only
not
commercial
I
mean
you
could
see.
Well,
like
englewood
commercial
industrial
center
was,
was,
you
know,
kind
of
an
example
or
cet
gardens,
or
you
know,
subdivisions
that
were
largely
named
after
businesses
in
that
part
of
town,
because
it's
all
commercial
well
belle
isle
was
one
of
the
only
ones
that
didn't
represent
a
commercial
entity
or
an
industrial
moniker
to
the
name.
G
So
we
can
have
this
record,
but
belle
isle
is
actually
was
an
original
property
owner
in
the
area
and
I'm
not
sure
how
to
say
his
first
name,
but
it's
t-h-o-s,
those
j
bell
isle
and
it's
spelled
differently
actually
on
this
original
map
that
I
was
able
to
find
it's
b
e
l,
I
s
l
e,
so
yeah,
it's
it's
kind
of
hard
to.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
changed
in
a
later
time
to
and
there's
an
area
in
this
part
of
the
city.
That's
that's
called
belle
isle
gardens.
G
That
was
the
subdivision.
So
that's
what
was
largely
named
after
that
so
kind
of
don't
want
to
jump
around
here
too
much.
But
there's
there's
two
points
of
feedback
from
the
meeting
is
that
the
belle
isle
name
seems
interesting
kind
of
a
little
bit
out
of
place
and
also
council
requested
that
we
changed
the
other
neighborhood
leland
to
clayton.
G
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G
If
it
was,
you
know,
I
mean
I
know,
melinda
would
back
me
up
on
this
one
if
it
was
broadway
serious
heights,
our
neighborhood
and
wanted
to
name
it
after
you
know
something
different
I'd
say
that
that
you
know
something
being
more
defined
of
an
area.
I
think
it
would
have
been
an
argument,
a
more
difficult
argument,
but
considering
that
this
was
one
of
those
more
difficult
ones
to
name.
I
think
I
wouldn't
personally
have
any
concern
on
it,
but
wanted
to
see
what
the
rest
of
the
commission
taught.
G
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B
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F
We
did
not
and
to
be
honest,
leland
was
the
bellevue
park
neighborhood
before
and
then
we
kind
of
combined
and
people.
You
know
really
liked
the
idea
of
having
bellevue
parks
instead
of
levlin
heights,
and
so
this
was
a
newer
neighborhood,
but
nothing
was
super
strong
and
no
opinions
came
out
super
strong
in
that
area
of
wanting
to
name
it
one
thing
or
another.
G
B
Well,
to
be
honest,
I've
I've
been
researching
just
all
the
neighborhoods
and
I
wasn't
finding
a
whole
lot
on
that
area,
but
I
was
seeing
a
lot
about
the
clayton
family
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
don't
necessarily
recall
it
being
tied
directly
to
that
area,
but
I
also
since
I
was
looking
for
information
more
like
on
leland
heights
and
those
boundaries.
I
wasn't
necessarily
like
making
a
connection
between
that
and
the
clayton
family
if
that
makes
sense,
but
I
do
recall
seeing
just
the
clayton
name
coming
up
a
lot.
A
G
G
B
G
It
doesn't
really
have
the
the
ring
of
of
a
name
in
englewood,
but
we
didn't
have
much
to
choose
from
in
that
area.
There
is
history
behind
it.
There's
no
doubt
there's
history
there,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
know
there's
two
different
spellings
that
we're
working
with
with
that
name
and
the
the
actual
spelling
is
I'll
type
this
out
there.
So
you
can
see
that
it's
b
e
l,
I
yeah
it's
a
lowercase
s,
l
e!
G
A
G
G
H
G
H
G
H
G
G
I
G
H
G
B
G
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G
F
F
A
H
F
I
F
E
G
Sure
can
I
can
I
throw
something
out
there,
real,
quick,
so
lauren's
doing
the
kind
of
background
work
on
this,
and
I
think
that's
that's
really
important
and
just
in
case
there's
something
that
pops
up
where
maybe
there's
a
slightly
different
name
or
slight
modification
in
between
that
time
that
she's,
you
know
that
we're
doing
this.
We
want
to
push
this
until
the
next
meeting
and
do
the
final
vote
then,
or
would
you
like
to
try
to
get
this
moving
faster.
E
B
I'll
also
say
I'm
just
kind
of
doing
the
research
when
I
have
time
so
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
sort
of
I
don't
know
that
you
know
if
I
do
find
changes
that
will
or
you
know,
uncover
something
it
will
happen
anytime
soon.
So
I
wouldn't
want
like
us
to
push
it
back
because
of
that
and
then
you
know
nothing
come
of
it
or
I'm
not.
I
don't
have
time
to
do
the
research.
G
Well,
in
that
case,
let's,
let's
obviously
I
very
much
appreciate
the
help
with
this
lauren,
with
with
doing
the
kind
of
the
background
on
this.
It's,
I
think
that's
hugely
helpful
with
this,
because
it
helps
to
substantiate
you
know
the
work
that's
been
done
on
this
with
the
various
people
beforehand
and
the
various
changes
and
work
done.
So
it's
hugely
helpful
with
everything
that
you're
doing,
but
you
know
no,
no
rush.
No,
no!
G
So
so
move
remove
that
the
commission
approves
the
map
with
the
changes
discussed
this
evening,
which
include
the
changes
to
the
official
map
for
the
forest
hill
neighborhood,
the
change
of
leland
leland
heights
to
clayton
and
the
change
of
spelling
of
belle
isle
to
the
exact
name
of
the
bell
isle.
So
b-e-l-I-s-l-e.
E
C
A
E
A
E
F
A
H
G
G
We
obviously
have
to
be
cognizant
of
you
know.
A
lot
of
these
neighborhoods
are
named
after
people's
names,
and
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
the
history
that
goes
along
with
that,
and
should
anything
come
up
where
that
you
know
might
become
a
problem
or
anything
has
to
be
changed.
As
a
result
of
that,
I
think
that's.
That's
a
good
way
to
look
at
it.
H
A
F
F
G
D
D
With
that
that
that
brings
us
to
our
next
piece
of
old
business,
which
is
the
historic
survey,
progress
report
and
ashley
bushy
from
pinyon
is
here,
and
I
know
there
was
an
opportunity,
I
think
eric
collect
questions
I
personally
didn't
submit
any.
I
did
look
at
the
report,
but
I'll
turn
it
over
to
ashley
to
update
us
and
address
questions
that
were
submitted.
J
J
Okay,
it
sounds
like
everybody
has
had
an
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
the
document
and
I
do
have
comments
that
came
through
from
melinda,
jason
and
lauren
and
have
been
working
through
those
on
on
the
document.
They
are
fantastic.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
that's
going
to
push
us
forward
to
a
stronger
product,
hopefully
one
that's
more
usable
for
your
community.
J
I
was
hoping
we
could
use
this
a
little
bit
as
a
working
session
on
some
of
those
comments
to
kind
of
workshop
how
to
push
those
forward.
Some
are
a
little
bit
more
nuts
and
bolts
and
some,
I
think,
a
little
bit
more
discussion.
I
do
have
a
version
of
the
document
on
my
other
screen.
If
we
want
to
open
that
up
at
some
point-
or
I
can
have
that
open
as
we
scroll
through,
does
anyone
have
a
preference?
J
You
can
tell
I'm
a
team's
native
and
not
a
zoom
native
right.
That's
that's
so
you'll
see
now
that
the
comments
are
coming
and
there'll
be
sections
that
are
highlighted
as
I'm
working
through
so
those
areas
the
wording
may
be
still
working
out
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
kind
of
going
through
where
we
are.
J
So
this
gives
us
that
that
touch
point
of
what
came
through
from
the
folks
that
participated
in
the
survey
and
again
we
had
really
robust
public
survey
participation.
We
had
130
something
participants
which
is
the
most
I've
seen
from
any
any
community
when
we've
run
these
in
the
past.
So
we
did
get
a
really
wide
range
of
landmarks.
J
J
Adaptations
might
be
applied,
so
I
will
get
that
in
here
as
well,
and
then
jason.
This
came
from
you
so
encompass.
I
used
compass,
the
system
that
has
all
of
the
resources
that
have
been
previously
surveyed
in
the
state
to
source
state
and
national
register
listed
properties.
It
sounds
like
there
are
a
few
that
are
not
in
compass.
I
back
checked.
These
key
savings
alone
is,
is
encompassed
but
doesn't
reflect
its
national
register
status.
So
I
wondered
if
you
would
be
able
to
speak
to
this
or
provide
additional
information.
C
Yeah,
so
basically,
what
that
is
is
because
a
compass
has
about
a
backlog
of
like
five
years,
so
it
went.
It
wouldn't
reflect
any
of
those
more
recently
listed
properties.
You
know
and
actually
they're,
currently
not
updating
compass,
because
we're
going
to
be
moving
to
a
updated
system
later
this
year,
so
yeah
those
are
just
ones
that
we've
had
recently
listed.
C
That's
you
can
be
queried
by
file
search,
you
know
our
argus,
so
that
was
why
they
didn't
come
up
when
you
looked
at
compass,
but
all
the
combinations
should
be
attached
to
that
to
our
website
and
and
if
you
need
something
like
you
know,
photos
for
your
table
down
there
too,
we
cut
out
the
current
photo
pages
for
the
ones
that
go
on
the
website
just
because
of
website
capacity.
But
you
can
just
ask
me-
and
I
can
send
you
the
full
things.
There's.
H
C
J
J
So
this
was
an
opportunity
to
offer
a
little
bit
more
background
to
what
the
purpose
of
that
limited
recon
was,
and
it
really
was
an
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
resources
that
aren't
necessarily
the
ones
that
come
front
of
mind.
We
think
about
his
history
of
the
city,
get
a
little
bit
broader
dispersion
of
time
period,
type,
geographic
distribution
and
use
that,
in
harmony
with
the
archival
research
guidance
from
this
commission
got
an
input
from
the
public
to
really
drive
what
our
survey
priorities
and
areas
might
look
like.
J
And
so
those
are
on
the
screen
at
this
point
again
high
being
something
that
based
just
on
that
visual
inspection
right.
This
is
a
really
limited
time
that
we're
spending
with
each
of
these
individual
resources
that
they
do
seem
to
have
fairly
high
historic
integrity,
based
on
that
just
visual
inspection,
including
form
and
materials.
If
there
are
replacement
materials
or
additions,
those
are
sensitive
or
appear
to
be
sensitive
to
the
historic
character.
J
That
fairly
obviously
has
some
challenges
with
integrity,
high
degree
of
replacing
interior
of
materials
on
the
exterior
envelope
or
additions
that
visibly
obscure
the
form
or
it
might
be
something
that
is
just
very,
very,
very
common,
and
there
are
much
better
examples
in
other
areas
of
the
city.
Anything
folks
might
want
to
add
or
clarify
to
those.
J
There's
one
of
my
working
paragraphs
that
needs
a
little
cleanup.
There
was
a
question
on
this
map.
I
love
this
map.
I
had
exported
it
as
a
jpeg.
I
re-exported
it
as
a
tiff
and
and
added
it,
and
I
think
it
is
a
little
clearer
than
it
was
before.
This
is
also
something
that
has
been
provided
to
the
city
and
can
be
reprovided
in
ppf,
tip
and
or
jpeg.
J
I
think
this
actually
comes
up
in
our
19th
century
discussion,
but
while
we're
here
kind
of
looking
at
this,
this
map
is
based
on
dates
of
construction
that
are
in
assessor
records,
arapahoe,
county
assessor
records
and
for
folks
that
work
with
those
we
know
they're
not
always
extremely
accurate.
They
are
a
really
good
suggestion.
How
that
gets
you
into
the
general
time
period
that
properties
were
constructed,
particularly
older
properties,
to
go
into
the
19th
century,
get
a
little
bit
more
accuracy
as
we
move
forward
through
the
20th
century.
J
So
that
was
a
question
that
came
up
too
and
again,
rightfully
so
using
assessor
records.
Only
six
properties
within
the
entire
city
actually
have
a
date
of
construction
in
in
the
assessor
records
that
pre-days
1900,
so
dates
from
the
19th
century,
which
does,
as
it
was
pointed
out,
exclude
the
scare
house,
and
the
rationale
is
that
it
is
actually
recorded
in
the
assessor
as
1911.,
which
corresponds
to
a
campaign
of
renovations
that
were
done
to
their
property
around
that
time.
J
But,
as
we
know,
it
was
actually
constructed
in
the
middle
part
of
the
19th
century.
So
that
discussion
is
now
included
in
the
19th
century
section
to
illustrate
so
there
was
already
a
discussion
that
said,
you
know
these.
These
records
are
not
always
perfect.
This
is
something
that
needs
more
research
to
demonstrate.
J
One
historic
context:
again:
this
is
not
a
context
project.
Unfortunately,
I
would
love
to
sit
and
do
a
lot
of
more
research
on
the
city
because
it
is
utterly
fascinating.
There
are
some
areas
that
were
pointed
out
and
I
have
notes
to
flesh
out
some
details,
including
more
residential
development,
one
I
am
really
excited
to
show
you
was
on
the
location
of
hannah
higgins
original
land.
Interestingly,
I
went
back
and
pulled
the
patents
that
were
issued
to
her.
J
There
are
two
one
from
1868
and
one
from
1874.,
neither
are
actually
under
the
homestead
act.
Any
of
the
three
homestead
acts.
One
is
under
the
script
warrant
act
of
1855.,
which
permitted
veterans
of
the
revolutionary
indian
wars
to
claim
land.
So
she
claimed
it
as
a
widow
as
part
of
her
husband's
service
and
in
the
patent
document
itself,
it
immediately
transfers
the
land
away
from
her,
but
in
1874
she
patented
land
under
the
land
act
of
1820,
which
is
the
cash
entry
option,
so
she
actually
purchased
that
land.
J
J
A
J
J
H
J
H
J
This
was
a
beautiful
story,
but
there
was
a
japanese
family
in
the
1930s
1940s
in
englewood,
who
were
actually
targeted
for
relocation
under
executive
order,
966,
which
is
what
forced
folks
into
internment
camps
and
reportedly
they
were
not
removed
because
their
neighbors
vouched
for
them
and
what
was
really
interesting
to
me.
I
went
back
to
see
if
I
could
find
documentation
that
supported
that
they
do
appear
in
1930
and
1940
and
1950,
which
has
now
been
released,
census
and
don't
appear
to
have
moved.
J
B
Yeah,
that
was
my
comment.
It
wasn't
necessarily
that
the
content
was
awkward.
It
just
felt
like
out
of
place
like
all
of
a
sudden
to
have
the
goals
there.
So
I
was
thinking.
Is
there
just?
Can
you
add
like
a
sentence
or
two
kind
of
tying
it
to
the
rest
of
that
chapter
or
the
rest
of
that
section?
Like
you
know,
just
kind
of
hey
as
a
refresher.
These
are
the
goals
of
the
preservation
commission
and
this
survey
is
here
to
support
them,
or
I
you
know
I
don't
know
especially
I
apologize.
B
J
J
And
into
the
recommendations
section
and
again,
this
is
where
we
had
that
comment
on
understanding
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we
read
the
numbers
for
the
19th
century
and
wherever
possible,
I've
tried
to
offer
some
strategies
for
where
information
we
don't
fully
have
the
information
we
would
want
what
it
might
look
like
and
what
sources
it
might
look
like
to
start
to
kick
off
a
survey
that
answers
a
few
more
of
these.
These
questions
so
offer
that
example
around
thomas
garrett.
J
I
think
there
were
a
couple
locations
where
I
didn't
specify,
which
ohp
form
good
catch
lauren,
so
that
is
fixed
now
and
also
one
of
these.
We
talked
about
okay
yeah
in
this
area.
We
want
to
highlight
a
range
of
architectural
styles,
so
I'll
work
on
on
that
section
as
well,
and
then
there
was
a
lot
on
post-war
growth,
because
of
course,
that
is
one
of
the
most.
J
Strong
themes
in
in
the
area
and
wanting
a
map
of
the
locations
of
the
subdivision,
I
am
going
to
try
to
pull
that
off
and
I
think
with
what
I
I
just
watched
with
the
neighborhood
mapping
project.
I
think
we
could
probably
do
that
what
I
would
love
to
do
so
I
pulled
subdivisions
that
are
identified
in
the
pre-existing
multiple
property
documentation
form
on
historic
residential
subdivisions,
additional
ones
that
were
highlighted
within
that
recon
phase.
If
there
are
others
that
folks
know
of
that,
they
definitely
want
highlighted
here.
J
Gis
is
usually
the
first
thing
I
use
and
I
create
a
map
very
similar
to
the
city
map
we
have
before
that
subdivision
and
again
shade
by
decade
five
year
increments,
one
year
increments,
whatever
I'm
trying
to
demonstrate,
because
it
tells
me
whether
or
not
I
have
you
know
like
a
holistically,
planned
and
constructed
subdivision.
If
it
has,
you
know
a
lot
of
infill
development,
or
maybe
it
developed
over
a
period
of
time.
So
it
gives
me
an
idea
of
what
kind
of
of
story
I
might
be
looking
at
in
that
particular
area.
J
But
it
has.
You
know
what
kind
of
percentage
of
infill
development
from
latter
periods
and
use
that
as
a
one
tool
right.
Obviously,
there's
historic
significance,
planning
earlier
subdivisions
versus
later
subdivisions,
but
that
is
a
tool
in
looking
at
where
we
have
cohesive
representation
from
the
period
and
I
think
lauren.
A
lot
of
those
questions.
Comments
kind
of
came
from
you
does
that
start
to
get
us
where
we're
going
in
terms
of
having
more
recognition
of
this
period
of
history.
B
Yeah,
I
I
definitely
think
so
I
think
it's
just
you
know
I,
like
I
said,
like
arapahoe
acres,
some
of
those
other
subdivisions,
they're
really
neat,
they're,
really
unique,
but
you
know
I
look
around
my
neighborhood
and
other
areas
of
the
city
and
I
don't
see
that
level
of
architectural
style
and
you
know
I
see
just
more
kind
of
run-of-the-mill
minimal
traditional
homes
that
are
having
have
a
history
here
in
england.
They
have.
H
J
H
H
E
H
C
C
C
H
J
There
were
some
comments
on
the
recon
survey
itself.
I
don't
have
it
attached,
it's
actually
a
separate
document.
I
combined
them
in
a
pdf.
So
a
couple
of
the
comments
included
again
that
prioritization,
whether
something
might
be
high,
medium
or
low,
so
I've
added
that
clarification.
That's
really
good
insight
and
then
for
everything,
that's
residential,
I
added
other
residential
development
and
whether
or
not
it
was
you
know,
post
war
more
in
the
downtown
core,
not
the
downtown
core
took
that
out.
J
So
yeah
can
accommodate
all
of
those
comments,
and
if
anyone
had
any
further
comments
on
that
recon
attachment
again,
please
please
let
me
know
happy
to
accommodate
or
if
somebody
feels
you
know
really
strongly
that
something
was
prioritized
in
the
wrong
location.
Again,
it's
a
it's
a
tool.
It's
not
meant
to
be
the
the
definitive
last
call
on
any
of
those
resources
as
individuals,
because
it
is
so
limited.
So
as
research
progresses,
you
know
we
may
we
may
understand
that.
J
J
H
J
I
like
that
a
lot
yeah
add
to
the
kind
of
add
to
that
introduction.
What
the
intent
again
of
this
was.
This
is
one
step.
Then
the
next
steps
may
include
we
can
talk
about
outgrowth
of
survey,
we'll
talk
about
public
interaction.
We
can
talk
about
historic
context,
development
right
that
this
is.
This
is
a
springboard.
H
Right,
I
think,
for
people
to
understand
that
this
is
truly
just
only
a
very
minimal
foundational
base
and
well
not
minimal.
Obviously,
he
did
a
hell
of
a
lot
of
work,
but
I
mean
heck
of
a
lot
of
work,
but
that
idea
that
that
this
that
there
is
so
much
more
that
we
could
look
towards
for
even
more
detail
and
more
clarification,
I
think,
would
be
cool
because
some
people
may
think
this
is
well.
That's
all
we
needed
yay
we're
done
yeah,
that's
a
good.
I
H
A
H
A
H
You
ashley
for
for
putting
human
human
terms
to
this,
because
it
really
was
like
a
few
paragraphs
there
I
was
like
what
the
heck
and
then,
when
you
said
it,
I
was
like
oh
okay,
that
makes
sense,
but
that
that
it
dumbing
down
is
is
not
a
bad
thing.
Make
it
simple.
Keep
it
simple
how
to
rephrase
things?
I
don't
think
that's
ashley's
job,
but
exactly
who
or
how
I
don't
know.
H
A
H
Described
it
and
I
was
like
oh
okay
now
I
get
that,
but
that
you
know
there's
pockets
like
that
everywhere,
because
you
historians
are
so
brilliant.
I
mean
seriously
brilliant
on
that.
Just
that
attention
to
detail
that
you
have
to
explain
that
attention
to
detail
it's
just
so
many
of
me's
out
there
and
the
details.
Fine.
But
what's.
H
B
E
A
D
I
All
right,
it
was
fascinated
to
see
that
the
house
across
the
street
from
me
is
pre-1900
of
the
a-frame
one
on
south
lincoln.
I
did
not
realize
it
was
that
old,
but
if
that's
what
the
assessor's
records
say
and
everything
I
just
neighborhood
or
urban
legend
or
whatever
has
it.
That
house
is
haunted
just
as
a
matter
of
interest.
D
J
D
All
right,
all
right,
ashley,
do
you
want
to
take
down
your
screen
share
since
we're
finished?
Yes,
absolutely.
Thank
you
appreciate
that
that
moves
us
to
our
next
piece
of
old
business,
which
is
code
next
and
brian
aisham.
I
know
I
got
your
last
name
right.
Community
development
and
planning
manager
is
with
us
for
an
update
there,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
brian.
K
K
D
K
So
what
will
be
coming
up
is
we're
we're
banned,
we're
putting
together
a
technical
advisory
committee.
So
that's
staff
members,
public
works
parks,
gis,
storm,
water,
sustainability,
utilities,
that's
just
to
name
a
few
that
will
get
together
kind
of
review,
some
of
the
drafts
and
some
of
the
big
picture
items
and
then
what
we
want
to
do
for
our
boards
and
commissions
is
kind
of
reach
out
and
do
and
we're
still
looking
into
it
either.
K
A
H
K
D
I
certainly
welcome
others
to
comment,
but
I
I
I
think
this
probably
reflects
the
sentiment
of
this
commission,
which
is
to
the
extent
that
folks,
on
your
end,
would
be
willing
to
do
a
one-on-one
session
with
our
commission.
I
think
we
would
be
in
favor
of
it
because,
as
you
you're
probably
aware,
through
eric
or
just
in
general,
you
know
this
group
spent
quite
a
lot
of
time,
putting
together
specific
recommendations
on
amendments
to
title
16
that
are
specific
to
what
this
commission
does.
F
F
D
C
H
I
D
D
And
eric,
I
think
this
came
up
with
the
last
meeting
as
far
as
these
general
public
meetings,
I
I
think
the
consensus
after
our
discussion
with
you
was
we
we
can't
appear
as
a
commission
or
in
any
sort
of
official
capacity
of
those
was.
That
was
my
memory
right
about
that
from
last
month's
discussion.
Yep.
E
But
you
you
can
attend
as
a
citizen
of
inglewood,
but
if
you
were
to
get
up
and
make
a
comment
or
anything
like
that,
just
be
sure
to
illustr
to
iterate
that,
while
you're
on
the
historic
preservation
commission,
you
are
not
speaking
for
the
commission
or
you're,
not
there.
On
the
commission's
behalf.
D
Yeah,
so
so
brian,
I
think,
to
the
extent
you
know
you're
having
these
conversations
about
how
to
interact
with
the
boards
and
commissions.
You
know,
ours
is
one
that
would
would
very
much
welcome
and
appreciate
having
an
individual
session
or
multiple
sessions
to
go
over
our
specific
proposals.
If
that's
possible.
D
E
E
Maybe
ask
questions
of
opinion
end
of
the
hpc
regarding
the
survey
and
the
process,
and
basically
just
kind
of
showcase
what
what
has
been
done
with
this
project
and
then
yeah,
so
that
will
be
in
lieu
of
the
june
historic
preservation
meeting
and
you'll
be
getting
more
kind
of
like
an
official
invite
out.
I'm
gonna
be
working
with
communications
to
get
out
the
word
of
the
event
and
go
from
there.
I
was.
A
E
I
don't
know
it
see.
I
I
was
thinking
of
the
library
for
the
first
open
house
that
we
had
for
the
for
the
neighborhood
survey
and
the
setup.
There
worked
really
really
well,
it
was
kind
of
a
round
table.
It
was.
It
was
a
good
flow
to
it.
So
I
I
thought
that
would
be
a
a
great
place
to
have
it
if
if
it
was
available-
and
it
does
seem
like
it
is
so
if
for
some
reason
it's
not
him
and
hal
would
probably
be
the
back.
H
E
I
H
So
any
type
of
thing,
if
you
could
encourage-
because
I
think
sometimes
communications
forgets
about
the
herald
because
it
isn't
the
big
thing
but
and
then
obviously
next
door.
Sometimes
things
show
up
there
and
sometimes
things
don't
show
up
there
and
again.
If
that
those
two
resources
could
be
utilized.
I'd
really
appreciate
it.
D
E
D
Thanks
eric
for
the
information
about
that,
the
last
new
business
item
is
future
meetings
format
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
have
a.
I
think,
a
brief
discussion
about
this,
because
I
think
we
need
everybody
here
to
have
a
full
discussion
about
this,
particularly
matt.
Since
he's
the
chairman
about
whether
we
want
to
stay
virtual
or
back
to
in
person
or
hybrid.
D
My
thought
is
that
it
should
be
essentially
hybrid.
I
would
like
to
have
in-person
meetings,
but
the
virtual
option
is
really
helpful
for
me,
and
I
know
for
matt
too,
because
we
both
travel
for
work
so
being
able
to
do
it
virtually
and
having
that
available
would
be
my
preference
but
having
it
in
person,
but
with
the
virtual
option
available,
I
don't
know
what
others
think
about
it.
Any.
H
H
D
I
I
No,
I,
when
I,
I
think,
like
to
stay
virtual
as
much
as
possible.
It's
not
only
because
covet
is
surging
again,
but
and
who
knows
what's
going
to
happen,
but
also
the
convenience
of
I
mean
how
many
screen
chairs
do
we
do
this
evening.
That
was
always
difficult
to
be
looking
at
the
same
thing
when
we
were
in
person
so
that
it's
there
are
some
conveniences
to
being.
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Yeah,
I
mean,
I
guess
what
I'd
say
unless,
unless
anyone
has
an
objection,
is
eric,
if
you
I,
I
know,
I've
asked
him
and
you've
asked
him
as
well.
If
you
want
to
try
again
just
to
see
if
he
can
come
since
we've
got
roughly
60
days
until
that
meeting
certainly
certainly
would
like
to
recognize
him.
So
if
I
know
he's
busy,
we
not
thinking
about
city
business
as
much
anymore,
hopefully,
but
well.
H
I
throw
I
throw
out
a
suggestion
of
sending
him
the
letter
and
saying
we
will
present
it
verbally
at
one
of
the
council
meetings,
and
just
just
do
that.
I
mean
it's
it's
kind
of
almost
gone
far
enough
away
that
you
know
thanks
for
not
no
thanks,
but
that
the
idea
that
he's
he's
definitely
got
himself
busy.
Where
I
say,
let's
respect
that
and
just
kind
of
get
this
done
and
move
on.
D
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H
Just
want
to
bring
up
that
arapahoe
acres
does
also
besides
it's
it's
historic.
Things
are
community
and,
what's
really
neat
is
for
our
june
food
truck
we've
we're
having
a
teddy
bear
potluck
and
picnic
and
we're
collecting,
stuffed
animals,
color,
coloring
books
and
crayons
for
a
victim
advocate
right
there
in
inglewood
and
for
the
you
know,
police
to
carry
around
stuff.
You
know
stuffed
animals
and
stuff.
It
was
really
neat
that
that
was
something
that
they
haven't
had
done
for
them
before,
so
that
was
cool
in
june.
H
New
or
fairly
new,
that
type
of
thing
but
yeah,
and
then
there
is
the
mid-century
modern,
it's
like
a
limited
corporation
or
whatever
that
works.
The
mid-century
modern
shows
in
august
and
they're
asking
for
us
to
be
involved
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
walking
tour
and
I'll
keep
that
information
available,
and
I
was
just
curious.
Has
anyone
ever
heard?
Subject:
change
of
the
legendary
ladies?
H
No,
it
is
really
cool.
It's
these
women
that
take
up
the
research
of
women,
whether
they
be
just
colorado,
not
just,
but
whether
they
be
colorado
based
women
or
different
thing,
different
women
across
the
united
states
and
they
research
them
in
books,
computer
wikipedia
yummy,
you
name
it
and
then
they
create
costumes
to
reflect
that
person,
the
costume
to
reflect
that
person,
and
then
they
create
their
script.
That
is
highly
scrutinized
by
other
members
of
their
group,
and
then
they
present
it.
H
It
has,
if
they're
that
individual,
so
I
felt
really
bad
it
didn't
even
cross
my
mind.
We
had
a
presentation
at
unity
with
them
and
of
course
it's
just
fascinating
the
different
things
that
that
women
have
done
in
the
past.
You
know
1700
1800s,
1900s
and
in
the
like
so
but
I
just
throw
that
out.
If
ever
you
hear
that
term
legendary
ladies
their
they're
research
enacted,
which
is
beautiful,
so
I
just
throw
that
up.