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A
Manager,
lewis-
and
I
had
a
talk
two
weeks
ago
about
city
council,
updating
the
unified
development
code,
chapter
16
and
they
want
feedback
from
the
the
two
different
groups.
I'm
going
to
give
you
two
parts
to
start
with.
First
part
council
has
discovered
that
building
giant
homes
next
to
small
one
has
small
ones,
have
created
problems
and
they
want
to
fix
that.
A
One
of
the
issues
they're
looking
at
is
the
bulk
plane,
the
height
of
the
new
houses
they
went
in
and
put
in
a
new
limit
on
the
height
of
the
building,
and
the
question
is
which
one
would
you
guys
recommend
for
the
first
since
1942
to
2014
it
was
12
feet
was
the
the
bulk
plane.
Then
they
raised
it
to
18
feet
in
2014.
A
We
also
want
to
look
at
lot
coverage
and
the
buildings
building
to
the
edges
of
the
lots
and
the
big
buildings
just
overpowering
the
little
ones,
and
they
wanted
to
do
something
about
flooding
when
the
big
houses
dumped
all
their
water
onto
the
next
door.
Neighbors
property,
that's
part
of
the
udc
code.
A
A
What
I'm
recommending
is
that
you
give
yourself
the
authority
to
declare
structures,
historic
and
you
make
the
historic
designations.
A
A
I
know
you're
already
working
on
an
inventory
of
historic
houses
and
buildings
reach
out
to
the
community
and
look
for
houses
that
people
want
to
preserve
and
see
if
they
would
fit
your
definition
of
historic
structures,
the
historic
preservation,
zoning
overlay
would
need
to
be
carefully
written
and
it
would
be
real.
A
A
There
would
be
a
need
for
a
way
to
appeal,
whatever
you
see
and
you
make
to
the
city
council
in
my
discussion,
there's
a
good
possibility
that
the
city
might
be
open
to
waiving
the
city
portion
of
the
property
tax.
As
an
incentive
manager,
lewis
asked
that
the
proposal
was
complete,
he
sent
to
council
and
copy
to
him.
It
needs
to
be
officially
submitted
to
council
for
consideration,
that's
kind
of
the
core,
but
I
just
kind
of
rumbled
through
it.
A
We
have
an
opportunity
here:
council
wants
to
fix
some
stuff
they
broke
and-
and
you
guys
at
the
hpc,
have
the
opportunity
to
come
up
with
some
plan.
That
would
include
a
stronger
version
of.
C
Well,
doug,
I
I
know
I
got
and
I
think
all
the
commissioners
did.
You
all
get
the
survey
on
the
unified.
What
did
you
call
it?
Ucd
yeah.
C
There
we
go
and
it
was
interesting
when
I
went
through
that
survey
because
it
didn't
it
seemed
kind
of
leaning.
One
way
I
don't
know,
if
anyone
else
did
anyone
else,
get
the
the
survey
and
get
a
chance
to
answer
it
yeah
I
did
lauren
said
she
didn't
how
about
you
helene.
C
Sorry,
no,
I
haven't
I'll
go
ahead
and
forward
what
I
have,
which
I
guess
I
got
from
nancy
fenton
a
while
back.
Is
that
survey
still
open
nancy?
It.
B
Is
not-
and
I
I
hate
to
be
stickler
about
these
meetings,
but
we
have
to
be
cautious
to
not
be
discussing
off
topic.
This
is
for
public
forum.
If
you
have
a
question
for
doug,
I
do
okay,
but
we
just
can't
be
doing
it,
adding
something
to
the
agenda
off
topic.
So
on
his
time,
are
you
ready
to
move
on
to
mr
goldstein,
or
do
you
have
another
question
for
doug.
B
It's
not
on
the
agenda
cj,
so
we
can
certainly
put
it
on
if,
if
melinda
is
or
excuse,
me
is
open
to
it,
we
can
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
D
So
I'll
jump
in
and
say
that
I've
first
of
all,
appreciate
doug
taking
the
time
to
join
our
meeting
tonight,
as
this
is
very
much
a
function
of
the
historic
preservation
commission
and
while
we
are
a
new
board
new
commission
relatively
at
this
point,
it's
it
seems
apparent
that
possibly
we
were,
we
were
somehow
bypassed
in
this
process.
So
if
it
hadn't
been
for
doug
to
take
the
time
to
reach
out
to
be
to
me
and
then
we
then
communicate
all
as
both
of
us
to
the
commission.
D
Here
I
don't
know
if
we
would
have
necessarily
known
that
this
was
in
the
process,
so
I
would
ask
melinda
jerry
ellswick
if
she
would
be
willing
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
coming
up
if
we
have
time
now,
if
this
is
something
that
needs
to
happen
within
the
next
30
days,
that
this
may
be
something
that
well,
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible,
but
maybe
we
put
it
under
new
business
this
evening.
D
D
So
that's
my
statement
now
comes
my
question,
mr
cohn.
The
where
were
you
reading?
All
of
that
from
was
that,
from
a
a
letter
to
counsel
from
the
city
manager.
A
D
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
cohn,
and
so
then,
then
that
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
information
on
this
that
we
we
need
to
get
with
city
manager,
louis
or
the
city
manager's
office,
and
get
a
little
more
information
on
this.
But
this
this
does
seem
like
a
very
important
topic
for
us
to
address
jerry
ellsworth.
E
Yes-
and
I
mean
I'd-
be
willing
to
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
next
meeting.
Perhaps
we
could
invite
sean
lewis
to
attend
the
meeting
also
or
we
could
discuss
it
further
tonight
under
a
commissioner's
choice.
B
Sorry
another
stickler
point:
you
can't
discuss
it
under
counsel
or
excuse
me,
council
members
choice
because
it's
still
new,
it
would
still
be
considered
off
topic.
It's
a
new
agenda
item.
The
only
other
thing
you
could
possibly
do
is
take
a
motion
to
amend
your
agenda
or
we
can
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
next
month.
C
Real
quick
nancy,
just
back
to
a
point
of
order.
The
information
on
the
survey
you
said
that's
already
closed,
but
as
far
as
pulling
information
together
for
that
the
code
discussion,
how
much
time
is
left?
Oh.
B
B
You
have
are
the
remainder
of
this
year
and
then
the
rewrite
will
not
even
begin
to
happen
until
next
year.
So
you
can,
you
can
always
email
wade,
burkholder,
you
can
email
eric
and
we
or
you
can
email
me.
We
can
get
it
on
any
of
your
comments.
If
you'd
like
wait
to
come
back
and
do
another
presentation,
we
can
have
him
come
back
and
just
not
even
do
a
presentation
just
take
comments
on
the
section
that
doug
is
referencing.
B
All
of
those
are
possibilities
whatever
you'd
like,
but
the
whole
whole
input
process
is
open
through
the
end
of
the
year
and
then
all
of
those
comments
will
be
compiled
and
in
the
rewrite
of
code,
and
there
will
be
input
all
throughout
the
rewrite
in
community
meetings
and
stuff.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
C
E
I
think,
probably
not
at
this
time.
Okay,
we
have
a
lawyer
on
the
commission.
F
E
Yeah,
I
think
I
mean
it
would
be
good
to
have
him
to
at
least
ask
him
to
join
and
tell
him
we're
we're
discussing
that.
Well,.
C
Also,
throughout
the
idea
of
our
city
council
person,
dave
questa,
helping
us
out
too
to
echo
what
he
knows
of
his
team
members
on
the
council.
E
Yeah,
it's
say
he's
not
here
tonight
too
bad
because
he
might
be
able
to
help
us
out
with
this,
but.
F
And
I
also
have
a
question
so
our
one
of
the
next
items
are
on
our
agenda
is
to
finalize
the
draft
landmark
protection
language
and
that's
essentially
going
to
that
language
is
going
to
go
into
title
16.
Isn't
it
yes,
so,
okay,
we
can
kind
of.
So
that's
some
of
the
things
that
we
would
be
adding
to
this
or
suggesting
to
add
to
the
unified
development
code.
Correct.
F
B
B
H
Hello-
everyone,
I'm
josh.
I
came,
I
attended
last
time
and
I'm
a
former
architect
and
I'm
working
on
the
cinderella
city
project,
which
is
a
historic
exhibit
for
the
old
mall,
and
I'm
also
I
had
to
talk
to
you
folks
about
the
civic
center
and
city
center
redevelopment
and
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
we
should
keep
this
keep
the
building
the
civic
center
building
the
former
broadway
southwest
of
cinderella
city,
if
possible.
H
So
anyway,
I'm
working
on
an
adaptive,
reuse,
study
of
my
own,
for
just
out
of
the
goodness
of
my
heart,
to
show
a
vision
of
what
could
be
if
we
kept
the
building
and
adaptively
reused
it.
So
I'm
just
here
to
check
in.
I
guess,
because
I
know
that
the
like
the
letter,
it
sounds
like
there's
some
movement
on
protecting
that
building,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
show
up
and
if
anybody
had
any
questions
for
me
or
I
just
wanted
to
find
out
if
there
was
any
update
on
potentially
saving
that
building.
E
I
can
give
you
some
information
on
that
josh
say
we
eric
informed
us
all
that
it
was
within
our
purview
to
give
a
memo
or
lender
to
city
council,
urging
the
preservation
of
the
last
of
cinderella
city
and
I
actually
drafted
a
straw
dog
memo
that
we
were
to
discuss
tonight.
E
But
eric
has
asked
that
we
table
that
this
week
so
that
he
can
and
wade.
Burkholder
can
be
here
when
we
discuss
it
further.
E
So
we
are
moving
forward
on
that
or
doing
what
we
can
do
and
I
know
jason
suggested
you
could
look
at
the
state
historical
society's
forms
for
designating
on
the
getting
on
the
state
registry.
E
I
looked
at
that
forum
and
I
discovered
that
one
question
it
asks
is:
is
it
already
on
a
city
registry
or
something
so
that
we
we
might
be
able
to
help
with
that?
If
we
designated
it
ourselves
and
even
as
the
16
611
is
currently
written,
the
commission
can
designate
it
without
applying.
We
can
just
blast
right
in
there
and
designate
so
we
hope
to
be
discussing
that
further
and.
H
So
I
I
I'll
give
a
quick
update
on
jason.
I
worked
with
jason
a
little
bit
over
email
and
it
seems
like
just
reading
some
of
the
statutes
as
they
are
like
the
building
isn't
old
enough.
It
doesn't
have
the
you
know:
architectural
character,
it's
not
part
of
the
mall
anymore.
It
was
built
after
the
mall.
All
this
all
these
things
basically
made
it
sound
like
it
really
wasn't
going
to
be
able.
You
know
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
it
on.
H
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
protect
it.
So
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
was
I
kind
of
gave
up
on
that,
but
it
sounds
like
so
let
me
ask
this:
does
the
commission
if
what
you're
talking
about
goes
through
and
we
interject
something,
do
we
have
actually
have
like
legal
power
to
save
that
building
or
is
it
just
like?
Our
opinion
is
officially
don't
tear
it
down?
H
E
Basically,
I
think
just
our
opinion
to
to
intercede
and
and
and
I
mean
it
is
not
required-
actually
that
it'd
be
over
50
years
old
or
something
if
it's
a
of
significance
in
the
history
of
the
city
and
since
it's
the
last
remaining
piece
of
cinderella
city,
which
was
certainly
an
iconic
thing
for
englewood
in
its
day,
then
I
think
it
meets
that
requirement
of.
As
far
as
significance.
D
D
Okay,
then
I
can.
I
can
do
that.
So
I
will
ask
mr
goldstein
that
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
prove
that
this
structure
is.
D
A
important
historic,
even
though
it's
not
of
the
right
age
of
building
that
it
has
enough
historic
significance
in
the
city
of
englewood,
and
we
were
to
potentially
proceed
down
a
path
of
saying
that
there
is
a
historic
significance
of
this
building.
Do
you
think
that
would
be
something
that
that
that
you
would
support
also
to
save
it
and
that
in
that
manner
or
otherwise,.
H
Yeah,
absolutely
I'd,
save
it
in
any
way
possible.
Personally,
I
I
was
fully
expecting
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
protect
it
just
purely
based
on
its
aesthetics
or
its
age,
so
I
was
expecting
that
we
would
have
to
do
some
sort
of
adaptive
reuse.
You
know
you
might
have
to
modify
the
building
a
little
bit
to
make
to
make
it
into
something
that
like
make
it
into
the
heart
of
city
center,
make
it
somewhere.
People
want
to
be.
H
I
D
Lauren,
specifically,
she
has
lot
or
jason.
They
both
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
this,
and
I'd
like
to
you
know,
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
because
I
I.
D
Could
be
an
avenue
that
we
could
explore?
I
do
have
another
question,
slash
statement
directed
towards
that's
relevant
to
this
situation.
It's
a
question
somewhat
for
josh,
but
so
actually
I'll.
Let
me
ask
it
this
way.
Josh,
have
you
reached
out
to
the
architects
yet
that
are
involved
in
this
project?
H
They've
been
slowly
responsive.
I
don't
know
how
interested
interested
they
are
in
my
ideas,
which
I
can
understand
because
I'm
just
coming
out
of
nowhere,
but
so
they
they
are
responding
and
they've
reluctantly
agreed
to
look
at
whatever
I
produce,
and
I
just
hope
that
they
would
take
some
of
the
ideas
under
consideration,
but
yeah.
So
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
an
email
exchange
in
there
at
least
responding,
albeit
slowly,
and
it
seems
like
they're
sort
of
pushing
off
a
little
bit.
But
at
least
I've
got
their
ear.
Maybe.
D
Okay,
but
does
it
sound
like
they're
they're
being
receptive
to
any
of
the
ideas
sent
forward
so
far
because
it
sounds
like
I
mean
for
me
looking
at
what
what
I've
seen
thus
far
with
this
is
that
they're
just
planning
to
just
steamroll
that
building
and
just
say
forget
about
it.
I
mean:
have
they
been
at
all
receptive
to
your
ideas
and
or
do
you
even
have
any
frame
of
reference.
H
I
haven't
given
them
any
ideas
I
mean
I'd
like
to.
I
want
to
show
them
some.
You
know
it's
easier
to
show
a
vision
and
say
here's
something
you
could
do
as
opposed
to
just
talking
about
it,
but
so
far
you
know
at
first
they
they
basically
give
a
lot
of
defensive
things
like
well.
We
haven't
fully
considered
everything
yet
and
this
isn't
set
in
stone
and
of
course
it
needs
market
research
and
it
means
x,
y
and
z,
and
so
I
get
a
lot
of
sort
of
ambiguous.
H
You
know
we
don't
know
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do,
but
it
seemed
like
they
were
leaning
towards
tearing
it
down
for
any
number
of
reasons.
So
it's
hard
to
know
if
they
are
going
to
be
receptive
to
my
ideas,
because
I
haven't
sent
them
yet,
but
it
does
seem
like
they've
they've,
already
sort
of
landed
on.
We
should
tear
it
down
and
I'm
trying
to
pull
them
back
and
be
like.
D
Well,
that's
that's
good
to
know,
so
that's
all
my
questions.
Thank
you.
J
Gosh,
yes,
yeah,
it's
a
question
for
josh:
okay,
just
checking
josh
okay,
I
just
wanna
first
say
like
I
did
get
a
sneak
peek
of
josh's
a
little
bit
of
josh's
vision
and
it's
really
inspiring.
He
is
creating
something
communal
and
beautiful
and
he's
using
the
original
structure
and
it's
very
exciting.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
hope
you
don't
mind
josh,
that
I'm
you
know
letting
that
cat
out
of
the
bag,
but
that's
fine.
J
Thank
you
question
I
have
for
you
is
you
know
we
spoke
and
you
shared
some
of
the
back
story
of
the
architect
and
developer
and
their
plans,
and
then
I
repeated
it,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
got
it
right
so
were
they?
Was
there
a
request
for
proposal
from
developers
and
architects
that
in
it
included
that
they
would
not
destroy
the
structure?
J
H
That's
basically
my
understanding,
because
I
looked
at
all
the
proposals
that
were
sent
for
the
rfp
period
and
I
didn't
see
any
they
all
included
this
building
on.
I
mean
not
on
touch,
but
it
was
certainly
on
the
plans.
It
was
certainly
in
the
rendering.
So
this
open
house
that
happened
a
few
weeks
ago
was
the
first
time
I
ever
saw
anything
that
showed
them
tearing
it
down.
So
to
me,
it
was
a
big
surprise
to
answer
your
question.
Yes,
I
think.
J
J
This
architect
and
developer
won
that
proposal
and
then
their
first
plan
out
of
the
gate
is
to
demolish
it
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
their
reasoning
is
and
if
there's
anything
there.
That
gives
us
any
leverage
to
helping
not
just
your
mission,
but
my
mission
too.
I
think
your
vision
is
beautiful
and
I'd
like
to
do
whatever
I
can
to
help
save
the
building
as
well.
B
We
would
just
be
getting
off
topic.
Okay,
talk
about
when
you,
when
you,
the
chair,
gets
to
the
city
center
redevelopment.
We
can
certainly
I'll
have
a
little
bit
more
information
and
that's
where
mr
paremba
could
possibly
come
next
month
and
answer
all
those
questions.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Josh.
G
B
So
chair,
that's
all
there
is
for
public
comment.
Yes,
mr
ghost
there
we
go.
E
Okay,
so
now
we're
on
to
old
business,
which
and
and
then
our
first
statement
was,
you
know,
the
draenmark
left
landmark
protection
language,
which
I
I'm
basically
suggesting
that
the
the
paragraphs
that
we've
put
together
so
far
just
be
added.
As
like
paragraph
four
c4,
there
isn't
one
right
now
in
16
611.
F
So
I've
been
looking
at
the
information
that
jason
sent
just
the
standard,
clg
ordinances,
that
the
state
preservation
office
has
put
out-
and
I
mean
I
think
in
in
that
document
on
page
36
is
the.
I
think
they
call
it.
F
The
preservation,
ordinance,
limited
and
section
five
has
you
know,
I
think
all
the
information
we're
looking
for
for
alteration,
relocation
or
demolition
of
listed
properties
and
districts,
and
this
is
this
would
be
a
case
where
we're
just
giving
the
recommendation
to
make
you
know
specific
changes
or
to
follow
specific
guidelines
rather
than
having
actual
teeth
to
follow
those
guidelines,
and
that's
what
I
was
going
to
suggest.
But
it
kind
of
sounds
now,
like
counsel,
is
more
open
to
giving
us
teeth
to
actually
approve
or
deny
you
know
alterations.
F
So
I'm
wondering
if
we
couldn't
go
with
the
more
expanded
version
of
the
clg
ordinance
that
they
have
of
the
preservation
ordinance
that
they
have,
which
includes
you,
know
the
guidance
and
process
for
actually
reviewing
and
approving.
E
And
so
I'm
saying
now
is
not
the
time
to
finalize
it,
maybe,
but
to
add
it
in
as
part
of
our
rewrite.
K
K
F
E
Because
that's
sort
of
been
our
complaint
all
along
is
that
we
we
don't
get
no
respect
so.
E
So-
and
I
have
a
note
that
whatever
we
when
we
come
up
with
things
like
that,
that
we
should
also
copy
sean
lewis
so
that
he
knows
what
we're
doing.
D
So
quick
point
of
order
here,
melinda.
What's
the
next
steps,
I
guess:
where
do
we
go
from
here?
What
I
mean?
E
They'll
be
upset
if
we,
if
we
go
too
far
without
somebody
from
the
city
being
aware
of
what
we're
doing.
D
Now
that
that
is
a
fair
point,
however,
it
is
our
position
on
as
the
commission
to
be
able
to
present
recommendations
to
council
and
as
we're
appointed
by
council.
D
Don't
get
me
wrong.
I
mean
obviously
it's
incredibly
important
to
involve
wade
and
and
these
other
members
of
community
development
in
this,
but
we
also
operate
as
a
commission
appointed
by
councils.
So
if
we
feel
that
there's
something
right
we
should
be
doing,
then
we
should
certainly
proceed
with
that
without
any
other
involvement.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
at
this
moment
here
glenda,
but
you
get
what
I'm
saying
right.
E
Well,
yeah,
there's
and
say
in
it,
including
the
design
review.
Language
is
one
thing
I
I
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
changing
it
to,
rather
than
filing
an
application
with
the
city.
They
file
an
application
with
the
commission
and
say
right
now.
It
says
city
council
has
the
final
say
on
that,
presumably
based
on
our
recommendations
for
anything
we
want
to
nominate
or
that
we
want
to
designate.
C
Well,
one
thing
real,
quick
and
maybe
I'm
wrong.
Lauren
cash
and
matt
have
been
truly
involved
with.
This
is
on
all
the
other
organizations
that
we've
looked
at
greeley
longma,
I
forget
which
ones
don't
they
all
go
through
the
city.
I
K
I
D
The
the
best
that
I
can
do
right
now
from
memory
is
to
comment
not
necessarily
in
the
exact
process
that's
taken,
but
the
the
steps
that
were
involved.
Okay,
so
whatever
avenue
is
used
to
communicate
initially
we're
talking
just
just
for
clarity,
we're
talking
about
possibly
the
demolition
process
or
those
sort
of
things,
because
that
was
predominantly
what
I
researched.
D
So
a
demolition
application
would
be
submitted
to
whatever
department
and
then
through
that
department.
It
would
then
be
routed
to
the
historic
preservation
commission
if
it
met
certain
criteria
for
the
the
structure
itself,
a
certain
age,
certain
area,
potentially
if
it
was
designated
or
not.
It
would
be
the
point
of
the
local
commission
to
to
comment
if
it
was
designated
or
not,
and
the
the
commission
would
have
the
review
process
over
what
what
further
they
do.
I
think
varied
from
city
to
city.
Denver
has
a
very
strict
process.
D
They
have
a
very
strict
process.
Overall,
you
put
all
portions
of
demolition,
which
was
quite
nice,
actually
the
preservation
of
trees,
the
preservation
of
structure,
the
notification
of
the
community,
all
those
things
I
think
very
important
in
this
process
and
should
be
part
of
that,
but
I
think
to
basically
summarize
it
most
most
cities.
D
The
the
public
would
communicate
with
the
department
in
the
city
and
then
the
department
would
then
relay
that
to
for
approval
to
other
departments,
one
of
them
being
the
historic
preservation
commissions
to
comment
and
or
approve
or
deny
cash.
Is
that
a
pretty
good
you?
You
feel,
like
that's
a
pretty
good
summary
of
yeah
yeah.
H
K
A
unique
and
more
restrictive
process
for
demolitions
than
probably
anywhere
else
in
the
state
that
I'm
aware
of
at
least,
and
yes,
I
think
that
that's
right
that
it
funnels
through
as
it
does
now
in
inglewood,
through
a
city
building
and
planning
department
and
then
gets
put
out
as
necessary.
If
there's
a
commission
like
ours,
that
has
to
approve
it,
as
is
the
case
in
some
cities.
What
varied,
I
think
between
some
of
these
different
municipalities
that
we
looked
at,
is
what
power
did.
H
E
Yeah,
I
think
we've,
maybe
it's
just
that
we
haven't
been
around
that
long,
that
the
the
city
forgets
that
we
even
exist.
F
E
That
was
the
original
intention
before
the
the
subject
of
rewriting
the
whole
thing
came
up.
K
Separate
separate-
and
apart
from
that
from
that
before
I
make
any
comments
on
that,
can
someone
remind
me
where
the
latest
iteration
of
the
language
is
it's
not
in
the
agenda?
I
don't
think
unless
I'm
missing
it
sorry,
I
I.
D
And
and
to
just
comment
on
that
too,
I
noticed
that
the
the
meeting
notes
their
packet
information
was
not
attached
to
the
agenda
this
time,
so
normally
for
agenda
topics.
There
was
some
sort
of
background
information
attached
to
the
agenda.
Did
everybody
else
see
that
too.
D
Okay,
interesting
okay,
that
was
just
curious
then,
but
yeah,
then
just
second,
what
cash
had
said.
Yeah
I'd
like
to
see
the
latest
wording
again,
also
just
as
a
refresher.
F
H
F
That's
what
I've
been
looking
at
and
I
can
email
that
to
everyone
right
now,
just
so
we
have
it
to
look
at,
but
that's.
E
F
E
I
have
it
already,
okay,
and
I
was
looking
to
see
where
I
put
the.
B
C
So
mateo
the
last
writing
we
have
is
that
something
I'm
I'm
guessing
it's
something
that
was
sent
out,
but
maybe
months
ago,.
D
Yeah,
I'm
trying
to
find
it
in
my
email
here,
I'm
having
trouble
with
that.
E
Yes
and
that's
where.
E
Just
you
know:
that's
where
it
is,
it
was
in
an
email
from
cash
to.
E
D
C
E
The
google
drug
drive,
it
is.
A
A
D
Nancy
has
a
quick
point
point
of
order
here.
Do
you
have
anything
on
the
record
that
you're
aware
of
from
previous
meetings
about
the
wording
on
that.
D
D
D
I
E
Well
should
table
this
discussion
until
next
time,
by
which
time
we
will
hopefully
found
it.
D
Before
we
submit
it
to
the
we
we
need
to,
we
obviously
all
need
to
be
read
up
on
this
before
we
submit
it
to
the
city
attorney
for
review,
but.
K
Yeah,
I
mean
that's
what
I
was
going
to
say.
I
think
that's
a
a
good
point
to
consider
is
is
if
we're
taking
on
this
larger
project
of
digging
into
the
title
16
of
the
code.
Do
we
do
it
all
as
part
of
that
I'm
not
opposed
to
doing
this
separately,
because
I
know
we've
kicked
this
around
and
worked
on
this
for
for
quite
some
time.
I
K
Do
I
do
think
it
probably
makes
sense
for
the
next
meeting,
even
if
we
do
this
part
separately
only
because
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
concrete
language.
This
is
the
proposal
that
we
are
going
to
send
to
the
city
attorney.
This
is
the
proposal
that
we
are
endorsing
and
voting
on.
I
think
I
think
it's
a
little
hard
to
vote
in
the
abstract
without
the
without
the
specific
language
lauren.
I
know
I
know
what
you're
saying,
but
without
I'm
a
visual
learner,
so
without
the
without
the
language.
H
K
That
by
next
time,.
B
Just
a
f
yeah
follow
up
with
mr
crabtrees.
I
went
back
four
meetings
and
there
was
no
language
attached
to
the
agenda.
B
E
E
D
C
G
I
B
I
know
you
by
cj
ms
cooper
hi,
mr
parker.
K
E
All
right
next
is
the
neighborhood
mapping
project
and.
J
That's
us
that
is
cj
myself
and
madeline,
and
we've
been
working
on
on
the
first
draft
and
we
actually
have
something
to
show
you
is
it
possible
for
me
to
share
my
screen.
J
Number
one,
for
some
reason
I
assumed
I
was
I
would
need
like
special
codes
or
something
okay.
E
I
J
Is
so
here's
what
we
have
so
far
and
we
also
have,
I
can
show
you
a
different
screen
too,
which
is
a
little
bit
of
our
our
like
order
of
operations,
and
so
what
we
want
to
do
is
we're
calling
ourselves
a
sub
group.
We
we're
presenting
you
guys
with
a
first
draft
for
some
feedback
and
then
we'd
like
for
us
all
to
agree
on
a
first
draft
and
then
maybe
get
some
feedback
from
stakeholders.
J
So
here
is
the
council
map
the
district
map
and
you'll
see
if
we
show
you
the
parks
map,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
really
see
it's
a
little
more
chaotic,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
follow
follow
along
district
lines.
Then
the
next
thing
we
did
was
we
took
a
look
back
at
history
and
took
a
look
at
use
today
and
made
some
more
decisions
based
on
that.
So
that's
sort
of
our
building
blocks
for
it
and
then
the
last
step
was
coming
up
with
some
names
and
some
of
the
names
were
obvious.
J
Some
of
them
are
just
already
used
in
the
lexicon
and
then
some
areas
that
we
didn't
have
strong
names
that
we
knew
of.
We
looked
back
at
history
to
find
historical
underpinnings,
to
name
these
areas,
and
so
an
example
of
that
would
be
like
signal
hill
or
like
crystal
acres,
which
was
like
a
small
part
of
this
area.
So
it
became
like
the
inspiration
for
this
area.
J
So
far
I
don't
know
cj.
What
do
you
have
to
say.
C
The
idea
that
it
was
first
things
first
was
I
for
those
that
were
there
with
mike
jones
and
myself,
like
we've
said
before
it,
we
got
lost
in
the
minutia
and
like
look
up
on
the
left
top
part
evans,
south
lawn
estates.
Just
so
you
know
the
word
south
lawn
was
one
word
just
so
you
know
for
the
future.
I
didn't
notice
that
till
just
now,
but
in
that
sector,
there's
three
subdivisions:
there's
the
evans
estates,
there's
south
lawn
and
there
was
another
one
that
was
like
two
blocks.
C
Maybe
when
you
go
down
below
it,
the
inglewood
industrial
that
says
what
we've
named
inglewood
industrial
north
is
basically
that,
like
any
of
the
houses,
seem
to
be
more
in
what
I'll
call
the
estates
area
up
north
and
if
you've,
driven
through
that
area,
then
you
kind
of
understand
what
I
mean
about
the
industry
area.
People
do
not
live
there
or
if
they
do
they're
living
in
their
offices,
I
think
then
you
go
down
below
and
we
have
vista
heights.
C
C
Housing
area
there,
that's
behind
dartmouth,
in
santa
fe,
on
the
north,
northeast
side,
northwest
side
of
santa
fe
dartmouth
the
idea
that
that
what
that
didn't
have
a
name
that
was
constructed
as
a
subdivision,
but
platte
river
was
one
of
the
bigger
names
on
that
part
north
of
it
cushing
park,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
say:
cushing
park,
jason
park
and
duncan
park
were
all
taken
from
the
comprehensive
plan
of
2000.
C
And
so
they
used
parks
to
generate
a
lot
of
neighborhood
locales,
so
those
were
some
that
were
left
over
from
that.
Interestingly
enough,
in
talking
with
david
carroll
of
the
chamber,
he
lives
in
the
jason
park
area,
and
yet
his
subdivision
is
known
as
something
else
he
honors
his
area
jason
park.
C
So
then
we
get
over
to
other
combinations
of
words
where
we
took
below
where
it
sells.
Bellevue
keep
going
down
with
your
arrow.
If
you
don't
mind
leland
sunset
heights,
there
were
three
or
four
different
areas
in
there.
There
was
a
lot
of
independent
construction
in
there,
but
leland
heights
and
sunset
acres
was
combined
to
create
that
bellevue
park
to
the
west
of
that
or
left.
And
then
we
go
further
over
where
we
have
an
industrial
area
and
if
you
guys
have
driven
along
oxford,
light
rail.
C
You
know
that
area
is
fairly
industrial
in
there
and
then
the
inc
that
what
was
the
name
of
the
other
industrial
part
on
that
side.
Anyway,
we
kind
of
just
clumped
it
together
as
inglewood
industrial
south
and
then
the
two
to
the
left
of
them.
Centennial
acres
did
have
four
or
five
contingencies
over
the
years,
but
they
maintained
that
term
centennial
acres.
When
we
went
up
north
of
that
knollwood
view,
there
was
no.
There
were
three
smaller
neighborhoods
and
again
based
on
numbers
in
in
area.
Now
we
haven't
talked
to
people
in
these
areas.
C
That's
where
the
stakeholder
option
is
the
next
thing
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
bring
you
all
the
way
back.
The
first
part
of
my
concern
has
to
do
with
south
broadway
heights.
The
idea
of
the
discussion
there
is
the
involvement
of
the
neighborhood
groups,
who
are
presenting
themselves
with
madeleine,
and
my
concern
is
south.
Broadway
heights
has
a
distinct
north
and
south
boundary
that
does
make
it
different,
just
like
arapahoe
acres,
there's
distinct
boundaries,
and
those
are
the
two
areas
that
I
had
wanted
us
to
talk
about
in
general
in
not
in
general.
C
L
L
This
is
us
what
we
call
a
starter
map
when
some
neighborhood
group
leaders
come
and
say
I
want
to
start
a
neighborhood,
and
I
want
to
start
a
great
group
in
my
neighborhood
and
like
where
should
I
draw
the
boundaries?
This
is
going
to
be
a
recommendation
for
them.
This
is
not
set
in
stone.
We
are
going
to
recommend
and
explain
the
history
behind
the
names
and
behind
the
boundaries,
and
things
like
that.
But
this
is
what
we
would
call
a
starter
map
and
that's
how
we
discussed
it.
L
C
And
then
there
we
got
iron
iron
works.
You
know,
do
we
want
to
to
pull
that
in
or
not,
but
it's
very
small,
literally
on
how
much
space
it
takes
up
in
that
neighborhood.
So
it's
things
like
that
where
I'm
like?
Oh,
where
do
we
say?
Okay,
like
we
pick
cinderella
city
well,
that
wasn't
called
cinderella
city
back
in
the
20s
or
40s.
It
was
an
actual
drainage,
ditch
right
that
headed
out
to
the
platte
river
and.
D
Go
ahead,
it
was
also
city
park
for
a
while
before
that
it
was
crap
or
before
that
before
it
was
city
park,
it
was
tula
or
it
was
in
alexander
industries,
and
then
before
that
was
tulares.
C
D
Fe,
every
everything
from
santa
fe
to
broadway.
I
D
I
D
C
D
After
after
tulares
that
became
the
alexander
industries,
both
from
the
film
studios
outside
filming
airplane
manufacturing,
that
sort
of
thing
and
then,
after
that
it
became
city
park
and
then
after
city
park,
it
became
cinderella
city.
So
you
know,
if
I
look
at
that,
go,
maybe
that
should
be
tuileries.
J
Yeah,
okay,
see:
what
do
you
recommend
in
terms
of
I
mean?
Should
I
maybe
just
email
everybody
a
copy
of
this,
and
we
can
talk
about
it
next
meeting
and
see
what
kind
of
changes
we
have.
C
Because
the
other
thing
is
too
that
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
present
is
swedish.
Craig,
it's
known
throughout
planning
department,
nancy
probably
can
attest
to
this.
Has
medical
district,
the
downtown
inglewood
section-
I
don't
know
if
you're
looking
at
that,
that's
a
little
bigger
than
what
the
city
has
used
has
the
downtown
inglewood
section,
but
anyway,
these
are.
These
are
thoughts.
C
E
C
J
Would
have
also
easily
been
jason
park.
I
think
it
is
in
one
of
our
maps,
but
we
drew
along
the
district
line,
and
this
actually
is
jackson
heights
historically,
at
least
part
of
it
is
so.
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
that
there
was
a
couple
different
pooling
sort
of
demands
that
we
were
trying
like
rules
that
we
were
setting
up
trying
to
follow.
J
Maybe
they're
not
good
rules.
Maybe
we
don't
have
to
follow
along
them,
but
the
other
function
of
this
map
and
having
it
named
is
that
once
we
really
get
the
this
kind
of
solidified
it's
under
these
names
that
we
will
start
recording
the
history.
Otherwise
it's
a
little
desperate
and
hard
to
record.
You
know
and
know
where
to
stop
and
when
to
end.
So
if
we
want
to
talk
about
what
we
have
like
chicken
leg
ranch
over
here,.
J
For
sure
ranch,
if
we
want
to
make
sure
and
record
that
it's
going
to
go
under
the
jason
park
history,
and
so
it's
you
know,
that's
the
next
step
when
you
think
about
issues
you
have
with
it
or
recommendations
you
want
to
make,
for
it
just
know
that
that's
kind
of
the
function
in
the
next
phase
of
the
plan
to
record
the
history
under
these
names.
C
So
the
other
thing
that
I
keep
butting
my
heads
against
is
like
arapahoe
acres
that
holds
that's
downing,
that
comes
down
between
crystal
acres
and
arapaho
acres
and
then
on.
The
north
side
is
amherst.
Well,
arapahoe
acres
really
is
only
marion
to
bates
and
it's
that
little
corner.
So
then
the
idea
is:
do
we
keep
it
this
little
corner?
That
kind
of
oh
gosh?
That's
the
wrong
word,
I'm
thinking
and
I'm
not
going
to
say
it
out
loud
that
changes
the
design
for
the
crystal
acres
thing,
because
now
it
crosses
downing.
C
I'm
just
curious
about
some
verbal
feedback
from
you
guys,
because
I
did
it
was
one
of
those
things
where
you
know.
Madeleine's
heard
me
and-
and
thank
goodness
helene
has
heard
me
more
than
once.
You
know
state
that
that
that
is
our
historic
district
in
englewood.
C
C
Interestingly,
open
up
the
part,
oh
god
aren't
you
amazing
helena
the
part
between
bates
and
amherst
was
kind
of
amherst
park
and
am
her
subdivision.
When
you
go
over
there,
I
don't
see
the
park
anymore,
so
I
don't
know
and
then
down
on
the
left
side
of
arapahoe
acres
so
down
between
on
to
the
right
of
that,
but
yeah
right
there.
That
part
was
called
bets
edition.
Now,
what
we've
noticed
is
these
editions
or
or
whatever
we'll
just
call
them?
C
F
C
C
F
J
Really
cool
one
thing
to
say
about
that:
is
that
all
that
history,
that
cj
just
shared
with
us
and
all
the
details
would
go
under
this?
It
potentially
just
playing
devil's
advocate.
It
would
go
under
this
umbrella.
So
again
we
would
keep
it.
We
would
keep
the
history
and
we're
envisioning
a
way
to
even
have
like
an
interactive
digital
map
that
has
that
history
built
into
it,
so
that
it's
not
really
being
lost
and
we
can
break
it
up.
It's
really
easy
to
draw
these
lines,
you
guys
it's
photoshop.
It's
really
easy
right.
J
So
that's
the
struggle,
that's
the
battle,
and
so
these
are
the
ones
we've
drawn.
As
of
now,
it's
all
subject
to
change,
but
we
don't
want
any
history
to
be
lost
so
just
because
lines
are
drawn
here
and
there
may
be
vista
heights.
This
was
shared
with
one
other,
so
you
know,
and
maybe
instead
of
drawing
the
lines
we
enlarge,
this
part
of
the
map
draw
it
show
it
point
to
it
say
what
day?
What
years?
Those
were
all
of
that
and
preserve
the
history
in
this
digital
installation
that
we
can
create.
D
Oh,
that
could
be
well.
I
always
thought
that
that
cheerland
was
actually
the
first
three
blocks
of
the
area
that
you're
defining
as
south
broadway
heights.
There,
the
first
three
blocks
in
from
broadway.
I
always
thought
that
that
was
the
cheerleading
community.
C
E
I
C
It
got
down
to
you
see
you
see
where
the
the
scoop
down
is
of
of
hampden,
that,
where
city
and
craig
there's
the
hampden
kind
of
scoop
of
highway
right,
there.
I
C
C
E
Curious
yeah,
I
know
it's
in
the
video,
the
of
the
the
exact
streets
that
it
ran
between.
D
And
then-
and
I'm
sure
melinda
will
probably
understand
my
next
question
here-
the
logan
area
yeah,
we
always
we
always
kind
of
associate
most
of
that
area
is
strayer's
broadway
heights.
E
I
used
to
live
on
logan
there
and
my
neighbor
told
me
that
uphill
from
logan
going
east
was
once
strawberry
fields
and
and
that
you
could
still
get
volunteer
wild
strawberries
popping
up
in
your
lawn.
D
I
would
just
throw
it
out
there
as
an
idea.
We
have
south
broadway
heights
staying
in
character
with
the
whole
broadway
heights
thing.
What
about
calling
this
north
broadway
heights
and
that
area,
and
at
least.
C
Oh,
that's
interesting
that
came
that
came
up
with
the
discussion
in
the
mansfield
heights
area
when
we
use
the
word
north
broadway
right
away.
That
throws
me
into
denver.
C
D
C
J
E
E
C
I
would
yeah
what
would
be
cool
is
to
know
where
you
guys
know
the
boundaries
are
because
my
map
only
had
three
blocks.
C
E
Think
it
was
dartmouth
to
yale
and
that's.
E
It's
on
the
sanborn
maps
and
I
think
it
might
go
further
over,
but
in
the
the
days
when
this
was
built,
the
city
stopped
at
logan,
so
yeah.
D
C
The
logan
deal
I
have
down
south.
That
area
seemed
to
be
called
logandale.
C
D
C
And
then
you
know
in
the
what's:
cute
is
in
the
jason
park.
I'm
sorry
down
here!
What's
cute
in
south
of
cinderella
city,
what's
that
first
one
called
a
cinder.
Oh
logandale
in
logandale
is
the
original
downtown
englewood
in
that
area.
There
jefferson
was
main
street
at
one
time.
J
I
know
you
feel
like
I
keep
saying
this,
and
I
did
this
on
the
project
too,
but
we're
also
going
to
to
some
degree,
have
to
work
with
the
way
things
are
used
today
in
a
to
us
to
a
degree
just
for
practicality's
sake,
and
if
we
want
the
history
to
stick,
we
kind
of
have
to
roll,
in
my
opinion,
a
little
bit
with
how
the
terrain
is
used
today,
as
well
as
the
history,
so,
for
example,
downtown
used
to
be
here,
and
it's
not
here
anymore.
J
J
J
C
And
the
other
thing
she
brought
up,
if
you
count
them,
there's
28
sectors
that
we
have
created
out
of
this.
She
she's
brought
up
more
than
once
to
me
again
because
of
my
minutia,
the
idea
that
if
we
keep
reducing
down
to
certain
things,
then
you're
going
to
have
more
pieces
anyway.
I
just
thought
I'd
bring
up
some
of
that
discussion.
We
had.
K
K
H
K
Too
granular
versus
maintaining
the
historic
character,
the
the
comment
that
was
just
made.
I
can't
remember
who
made
it
actually
just
a
moment
ago,
but
yeah
the
practicalities.
H
K
Things
are
used
now,
like
the
broadband
heights.
I
I
get
that,
although
I
will
say
you
know,
the
tendency
it
seems
like
here
and
elsewhere
is
to
talk
about.
You
know,
base
slogans.
Obviously
the
park
people
talk
about
neighborhoods
in
terms
of
parks,
at
least
right
now,
so
I'm
not
you
know,
I
don't
have
any
objection
to
that.
I
understand
that's
a
that's
historic
in
character,
but
yeah.
I
J
J
E
Now
and
the
I
know,
the
redevelopment
people
are
referring
to
what
you're
calling
swedish
craig
as
just
the
medical
district,
which
actually
historically,
that
it
has
been
the
medical
district.
Since
swedish
was
established.
C
C
You
know
down
on
the
southern
part
there
yeah,
but
anyway.
E
C
The
one
thing
I
definitely
wanted
to
touch
base
with
the
council
members
on
those
that
do
know
their
areas
is
asking
them.
How
does
this
sound
to
you?
Are
we
slamming
anybody?
Are
we
missing
somebody,
because
this
could
easily
have
been
called
swedish,
but
to
me
craig
is
a
big
part,
mainly
because
I
worked
there
for
10
years,
but
craig's
a
big
part
also
of
the
economies
of
inglewood.
So.
G
K
J
J
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
push
some
historic
names
onto
them,
but
it's
going
to
be
like
a
bandwidth
issue
where
we
can't
do
that
everywhere,
because
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
initiative,
but
if
there
are
some
areas
up
here
where
maybe
they're
calling
it
bait
slogan
and
we
want
to
call
it
something
else-
I
don't
know
that's
just
an
example
or
like
medical
turn
it
to
swedish
craig.
We
can
put
some
signs
up
and
put
it
in
the
city
plan
and
kind
of
push
it
and
so
we've
got.
J
I
think
we
have
bandwidth
to
do
that
with
signage
and
with
buy-in
from
city
council
having
it
added
to
whatever,
but
we
can't
do
that
too
much.
We
can
maybe
do
that
a
couple
of
places.
Otherwise
I
think
we
have
to
roll
with
the
organic
evolution
of
these
districts.
C
J
So
moving
forward,
I
will
create
a
couple
pdfs
I'll
do
one
that
shows
the
district
map
underneath
I'll
do
one
that
shows
just
the
map
alone.
J
C
Me
because
it
has
the
streets
on
it,
it
makes
it
easier
to
read
someone
says:
oh,
oh
I'm
in
bates
logan!
Well,
I
guess
that
makes
sense
or.
J
You're
like
to
everybody
and
then
what
do
we
do?
We
get
feedback
next
next
month,
next
meeting.
C
I
mean
I
have
no
problem
moving
forward
with
again
taking
this
to
city
council,
taking
this
to
the
inglewood
historic
prison.
Well,
matt
could
do
that
help
but
get
it
to
the
preservation
society
chamber
of
commerce,
some
of
those
places
that
we've
created
a
stakeholder
list,
but
just
a
beginning,
yeah.
Thank
you
for
bringing
up
our
steps.
J
This
is
our
little
plan
we
planned
together.
We
assessed
now
we're
in
the
deciding
phase
we're
presenting
to
you
a
first
pass.
We
would
like,
as
a
group
to
be
able
to
finalize
a
first
draft
and
then
we
go
to
stakeholders
and
then
we
absorb
that
feedback,
and
then
we
go
to
yeah.
J
We
just
keep
going
a
little
bit
until
we
have
like
a
final
draft
right
here
and
then
we
maybe
create
a
proposal
for
city
council
and
you
propose
it,
and
then
here
under
present
is
where
we
can
see
like
the
digital
display,
and
we
would
need
budget
for
that
and
then,
if
we
want
to
promote
it
for
signage
and
maybe
the
effort
to
promote
these
districts,
we
need
budget
for
that.
E
Within
limits,
you
know
that
that's
not
really
a
an
issue.
J
The
software
is
usually
very
reasonable
too,
and
there
you
can
get
already
packaged
interactive
maps
and
timeline
software.
That's
really
dynamic
and
I'd
love
to
lend
my
graphic
abilities
to
it
and
whoever
else
and
it
creates
something,
really
cool,
and
then
I
know
the
city
is
in
the
process
of
creating
a
new
website.
J
J
I
think
it
it
would
be
a
way
it
softens
the
blow
of
some
of
the
hard
decisions
we
made
to
preserve
it
in
that
way.
The
history
part.
So
it's
not
like
we're
just
cutting
out
things,
but
we're
actually
creating
an
opportunity
to
preserve
through
the
project.
J
C
So
how
about
this?
Anybody
have
any
ideas
for
stakeholders.
Please
send
them
to
me
and
helena
together.
Well,
maybe
madeline
too,
because
she's
kind
of
been
part
of
the
subgroup,
whether
she
wanted
to
or
not
so
yay
madeline.
Thank
you
so
much
anyway,
but
the
three
of
us,
if
you
guys,
could
you
know
just
certain
things
that
cross
your
mind
that
you're
like
I'd
like
this
group,
to
be
involved,
or
I
would
like
that
to
be
because
obviously
madeleine's
neighborhoods
that
have
bumped
up
and
said
yes,
we're
a
neighborhood
they
will
be
contacted.
B
B
That's
fine,
can
a
pdf
be
great
or
if
you
want
to
send
it
with
flattened
layers,
I
can.
I
can
take
it
in
a
illustrator
adobe,
any
type
of
adobe
product,
and
then
I
can
get
that
put
up
on
with
your
agenda
for
tonight
and
then
as
well
as
your
timeline
that
you
showed.
I
would
need
a
copy
of
that,
so
I
can
put
that
up.
B
F
Oh
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
map,
as
we've
been
presented,.
C
C
G
D
B
And
tara
elswick,
I
thank
you
motion
topic.
E
Melinda,
what's
next,
all
right
onward.
E
E
So
since
eric's
not
here,
I
understand
that
the
first
batch
of
rfps
that
went
out
to
various
were
all
declined.
Nobody
wanted
to
bid
on
it
so.
E
E
Not
that
I've
heard
since
eric
isn't
here
tonight
I
can't
be
sure,
but
I.
G
E
E
Eric
requested
that
we
tabled
the
letter
to
city
council
on
the
they've
cinderella
city
until
the
next
meeting.
C
B
B
It's
not
to
delay
or
try
to
sway
you
not
to
write
your
letter,
it's
just
a
and
if
mr
goldstein,
he
certainly
can
be
in
the
meeting
and
just
hear
the
presentation
answer
the
questions
about
the
rfp
that
were
raised
tonight
and
then
eric
would
like
to
be
here
for
that
discussion.
For
the
letter
to
city
council.
K
E
Yeah
he
he
hasn't
seen
it
yeah
and
they
say
I
I
basically
cribbed
a
lovely
statement
that
the
historic
preservation
society
sent
to
the
city
also
asking
to
save
the
that
building.
E
B
I
I
guess
well,
if
you're
going
to
send
it
to
one
person,
if
someone
else
requires
it
or
request
it,
excuse
me
you
would
need
to
give
it
to
them.
So
if
eric
has
a
copy,
but
if
mr
paramba
wanted
to
see
a
copy
of
the
letter
or
or
your
next
door,
neighbor
yeah
you
just
submit.
If
you
give
it
to
one
person,
you
have
to
give
it
all.
E
D
And
actually
real
quick
question
before
we
get
off
topic
on
that
nancy.
I
I
plan
to
reach
out
to
well
obviously
dave
request.
I'm
sure
he'll
be
watching
this,
but
I'll
reach
out
to
him,
but
I'd
also
like
to
involve
a
few
other
council
members
and
that
to
make
sure
that
they
are
prepared
and
aware.
H
D
D
D
Well,
just
to
reach
out
to
them.
Let
them
know
that
this
is
there's
a
concern
that
exists
here
to
seems
like
there
was
a
bit
of
a
a
change
in
plans
with
the
city,
center
development
and
there's
a
few
concerned.
People
both
on
the
commission
and
in
the
community.
I
D
So
I
will
do
that
as
okay
I'll
do
that
as
a
citizen
in
the
community
here.
E
President,
there
you
go
because
dave
quest
isn't
actually
our
council
member
matt,
although
we
could
probably
reach
out
to
ethonial
sierra
and
I'm
not
sure
how
interested
he
is.
But.
B
Not
to
say
that
any
of
you
couldn't
as
private
citizens,
if
you
wanted
to
that's
what
your
letter
would
actually
be
doing,
is
as
a
consensus
expressing
any
concerns
you
had,
but
as
the
council
liaison
council
member
questor.
That
is
what
his
role
is
to
take
concerns
back
to
the
remainder
of
council.
But
he
is
not
here
this
evening,
not
that
I'm
telling
any
of
you
something
you
don't
know,
but
but
yes,
any
of
you
can
reach
out
to
council
members
as
private
citizen.
Well,
actually,
not
representing
the
commission.
D
Just
worried
about
us
yeah
that
actually
makes
perfect
sense
and-
and
I'm
just
concerned
about
losing
time
on
this
because
as
every
day
passes,
those
architects
are
getting
closer
and
closer
to
removing
that
building.
So.
B
I
can
just
say:
that's
going
to
be
not
set
in
stone
and
that
would
be
a
ways
down
the
road,
but
I
underst
I
hear
and
understand
your
concern.
So
getting
back,
do
you
wish
to
table
this.
C
D
B
So
are
you
wanting
to
have
a
bit
of
like
a
little
part
on
your
agenda
for
I'm
going
to
call
it
a
study
session
where
mr
paremba
comes
and
talks
to
you
about
city
center
redevelopment
answers,
questions
and
then
also
invite
mr
goldstein
to
also
do
somewhat
of
a
be
able
to
answer
questions
not
under
public
forum.
But
are
you
inviting
him.
C
Well,
it's
interesting
because
it's
almost
two
different
things
presentation
gives
us
some
information
that
we
don't
know
by
maybe
about
the
thing.
The
second
one
was
to
actually
the
wording
of
the
letter
that
we
would
like
to
send
to
counsel.
B
B
E
We'll
invite
josh
goldstein
to
observe
the
meeting
and
suggest
anything
that.
E
That
may
come
to
mind,
since
he
has
expertise
on
the
history
of
that
building.
So.
B
J
Also,
I
don't,
I
don't
know
if
he'll
have
it
ready,
but
if
he
wants
to
share
some
of
what
he's
been
working
on
we'll
he
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
He
has
these
3d
models
of
the
area,
and
so,
if,
if
we
can
make,
I
I
don't
want
to
say
he
can't.
I
don't
speak
for
him,
but
if
he
has
those
to
share,
will
the
space
be
there
for
him
to
share
them?
It.
B
K
I
K
G
E
And
actually
I'd
like
him
to
be
able
to
present
it
to
dan
paremba,
I
mean
he's
busy
talking
to
different
architects
and
they're
they're
being
polite,
but
let's
cut
to
the
chase
and
help
him
sorry
raise
its
visibility.
B
G
B
C
B
Brad
powers,
the
director
of
community
development
right
wade,
is
the
planning
manager
and
then
laterally
they're.
You
know
the
same
level
is
dan,
so
brad's
the
director
and
then
under
brad
is
wade
right
and
dan
darren,
our
economic
development
manager
and
me,
and
then
our
chief
building
official,
we
all
report
directly
to
brad
and
then
under
there
we
all
have
people
we
supervise.
B
Different
responsibilities:
ben
paremba
is
in
charge
of
redevelopment
within
this.
C
Wade
would
be
the
one
involved
with
the
writings
yeah.
B
C
And,
oh,
I
don't
need
phone
numbers
I
just
need
to
with
the
web
rewrite.
I
will
ask
well,
it
was
interesting
too,
because
I
was
looking
for
something
in
public
works
and,
and
only
when
I
went
to
the
building
was
I
directed
to
the
right
person,
and
I
was
like
why
couldn't
I
find
that
on
the
website?
But
anyway,
thank
you
that
was
off
topic.
B
Okay,
but
thank
you
for
indulging
me
on
that.
We've
tabled
that
issue
and
now
understand
how
you
would
like
that
next
month,.
E
Then
our
our
last
item
is
just
sort
of
a
rose
out
of
last
month
I
sent
around
a
list
of
all
of
the
locations
in
englewood
that
are
on
either
the
state
or
national
register
or
both
and
discovered.
The
scared
house
is
not
on
any
registers,
but
then
I,
let's
say
discovered
or
in
the
16-6-11,
as
it
is
currently
written,
that
a
nomination
for
designation
been
made
by
the
commission.
E
To
ourselves
that
that
we
can
say
we
can
designate,
we
can
use
our
our
form
to
put
it
together
if
we
like,
but
we
we
can,
and
I
mean
because
the
scared
house
is
owned
by
the
city.
E
C
F
E
We've
never
asked
council
to
approve
the
forum
we
just
put
together
the
form
and
approved
it
ourselves,
and
I
don't
think
council
is
right
now
required
to
approve
anything.
We
nominate,
but
they're
not
required
to
approve
our
form,
it's
a
form
provided
by
the
by
the
city
but
or
an
application
with
the
city,
but.
A
F
C
I
mean
it
could
be,
but
now
I'm
thinking
politically
maybe
it
is
best
to
keep
it
separate
since
it's
a
voluntary
thing,
it
has
no
teeth
at
this
time.
I
guess
we
got
another
agenda.
Item
nancy
well,.
F
You
are
bringing
back
other
memories
now.
I
think
what
we
had
decided
is
that
you
didn't
want
to
move
forward
with
the
landmark
application
as
it
was
and
start
designating
buildings
as
local
landmarks,
if
there
weren't,
if
we
didn't,
have
any
teeth
at
the
time
and
then
later
we
passed
this
ordinance
to
where
there
are
teeth,
who
you
know
have
those
protections
for
them
and
then
some
a
building's
already
a
landmark.
C
I
E
And
well,
we
put
through
two
that
were
just
practice
on
the
brown
house
and
on
the
bank,
and
they
were
basically
just
for
practice
at
filling
out
one
of
those
and
for
eric
to
practice
the
the
parts
that
the
city
needed
to
look
at
and,
of
course,
if
we're
going
to
revise
some
of
this
code,
then
it's
like.
Maybe
the
city
doesn't
need
to
look
at
it.
E
C
E
A
for
the
this
garrett
house.
C
D
C
C
C
D
Yeah,
it
would
be
it
would
oh
yeah.
Well,
I
doubt
it's
going
anywhere,
but
you
know
the
yeah
colorado
preservation
date
constructed
1864
with
several
additions
through
1911.
D
D
C
C
G
E
D
C
D
The
city
no
linda
you're
right,
the
city
did
own
it
at
one
point
in
time,
and
there
was
a
really.
I
think
it
was
a
couple
years
preceding
this
was
probably
2002
or
so
there
was
a
heavy
rainstorm
that
resulted
in
the
foundation
washing
out
because
it
was
a
cool
stone
foundation
and
the
foundation
washed
out
and
council,
I
think,
did
own
the
property
at
that
point
in
time
and
then
the
at
least
this
is
the
story.
D
I've
been
told,
and
anyway
the
the
the
house
was
structurally
compromised
and
was
the
city
was
actually
going
to
tear
it
down,
but
it
it
structurally.
It
had
been
condemned
because
the
foundation
washed
out
and
that's
when
that's
when
either
colorado,
preservation
or
colorado
history
colorado.
What
what?
Whatever
organization
put
the
money
forward?
I
think
that
was
the
point
in
time
that
they
remodeled
the
property,
put
it
for
sale.
E
A
designated
subcommittee
to
to
work
on
that.
B
G
I
C
I
B
D
B
Keeping
you
all
voting
by
roll
call
and
such
so
I
will
pass
everything
along
to
eric
and
thank
you
for
sending
the
email.
So
I
can
get
those
up
on
the
commission's
portal,
so
the
public
can
have
access
to
everything
and
we
stay
make
sure
we're
staying
very
transparent.
E
Just
had
to
reload,
I
thought
that
might
happen.
Well,
I
think
we've
we've
come
to
the
end
of
our
agenda,
except
for
staff
choice
and
commissioner's
choice.
C
D
Well,
I
I'll
I'll
make
a
point
really
fast.
The
wow,
rafael
county,
assessors
page,
is
actually
fascinating
for
the
scarados.
It
shows
a
recorded
document
between
the
city
of
englewood
and
colorado
preservation
incorporated
cpi,
where
the
city
of
englewood
actually
deeded
the
property
of
the
spirit
house
to
colorado
preservation
incorporated.
D
Interesting
and
then
colorado
preservation
incorporated
sold
it
two
years
later
for
356
thousand
dollars.
D
Yeah,
it
says
here
that
this
deed
made
the
29th
of
29th
day
of
july
2005
between
colorado
preservation,
incorporated
colorado,
non-profit
corporation
between
gregory,
w
mortimer
and
aaron
m
manning
for
the
total
of
356
000
anyway.
Interesting.
E
Just
underlines
our
our
usual
cynicism
about
these
things.
I
C
B
E
It
is
8
34
p.m,
and
as
long
as
long
as
nancy's
still
on
we're
still
connected
because,
but
once
she
goes
then
the
meeting
is
over.
So
all
right.