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A
C
Oh,
I
don't
know,
I
have
a
lot
of
halt.
I
guess
we
had
christmas
and
then
we
got
real
busy
again
here,
but
then
we
kind
of
missed
out
on
some
of
our
our
udc
steering
committee
meetings.
I
believe.
A
C
C
Dividing
up
wade's
tasks.
A
B
A
D
Yeah,
you
were
talking
about
the
cold
weather.
It's
hopefully
it'll
be
gone
in
a
couple
days.
D
A
Okay,
terrific
all
right!
Thank
you
all
for
coming.
I
know:
we've
had
a
little,
we
almost
didn't
have
a
quorum.
So
I
appreciate
everybody
that
is
here
and
could
come
I'll
call
this
the
wednesday
february
23
2022,
planning
and
zoning
meeting
to
order
nancy.
Could
you
call
the
world
please.
B
A
D
A
B
I
have
to
abstain
from
this
one
too:
okay,
kate,
yes,
carl.
D
A
You
nancy,
I
think
the
next
thing
on
the
agenda
is
the
public
forum.
Do
we
have
any
public
online
with
us?
We
do
not
all
right
with
that,
we'll
go
ahead
and
skip
to
the
public
hearing
of
case
2021-07,
the
walk-in
wheel,
update
and
I
believe
I
am
to
call
upon
john.
B
Okay,
okay,
I
have
kate
fuller
as
the
second
mcdonald's.
C
C
C
So
I
think
I
will
start
out
and
give
you
just
a
little
bit
of
background
beyond
even
this
little
blurb
here,
I've
been
kind
of
giving
this
presentation
to
a
number
of
different
community
groups,
and
so
I
think
some
of
this
information
that
I
will
provide
to
you
this
evening
will
will
be
helpful
and
that
you'll
you'll
enjoy
hearing
about
it.
But
so
I've
been
with
the
city
since
2001.
C
The
city
established
two
different
bicycle
routes:
one
east-west
on
dartmouth
connecting
denver
on
either
side
and
a
north-south
route
connecting
from
sherman
and
yale
and
then
making
its
way
to
the
west
over
to
windermere
and
then
down
to
downtown
littleton,
and
that
was
about
the
extent
of
planning
for
on
street
bicycle
facilities.
C
Since
the
1970s,
and
so
I
reached
out
to
someone
in
public
works
and
we
someone
who
was
a
bicycle
enthusiast
and
we
got
permission
to
work
on
a
a
new
bicycle
master
plan
for
the
city.
We
did
it
by
ourselves
in
house
and
we
approved
that
in
2004.
C
However,
we
didn't
really
have
any
money
to
do
anything.
It
was
more
of
just
kind
of
a
policy
document
until
we
had
an
opportunity
to
sign
all
of
our
bicycle
routes
through
a
grant
that
was
made
available
during
the
great
recession
in
2012,
and
at
that
time
I
realized.
Oh,
oh,
no,
I
need
a
new
plan.
I
we've
implemented
our
plan.
C
We
need
a
new
one,
and
so
I
went
out
and
was
able
to
find
this
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant
with
no
strings
attached,
no
no
match
from
the
kaiser
permanente
foundation,
and
we
were
able
to
use
that
to
hire
a
professional
bicycle
and
pedestrian
planning
consultant.
C
C
What
was
that
date
september?
22Nd
2015,
as
approved
by
city
council
in
the
fall
of
2015,
and
the
walk-in
wheel
plan,
had
emphasized
a
series
of
quick
win
projects
about
maybe
eight
to
ten
or
so
projects,
typically
from
that
time
on
were
funded
out
of
discretionary,
departmental
or
grant
dollars
that
we
had
available.
That
are
that
we
weren't
earmarked
for
some
other
project.
C
I
was
able
to
find
these
these
little
remainder
pots
of
money
and
go
out
and
have
a
consultant
design
a
facility
for
ten
to
twenty
thousand
dollars,
and
then
it
would
be
ready
to
then
we'd
have
to
look
for
other
additional
funds
within
project.
Public
works,
budgets
or
I'd
have
to
go
out
and
get
a
grant
to
do
them.
C
Funding
stream
that's
dedicated
exclusively
to
walking
little
projects
and
that's
kind
of
necessitated.
This
need
for
doing
a
walk
and
wheel
update,
because
the
city
manager
had
doesn't
really
have
didn't,
have
a
real
good
handle
on
what
the
cost
of
these
facilities
would
be
and
they
weren't
those
were
not
estimated
in
the
original
walker
wheel
plan.
That
was
something
that
was
really
causing
some
problems
about
how
how
we
were
going
to
program
that
money
moving
forward.
C
So
we
got
our
marching
orders
to
do
an
update
of
the
walk-in
wheel
plant
and
the
walk-in.
The
new
walkway
update,
includes
project
goals,
included
a
new
round
of
outreach
to
the
community.
C
It
identifies
our
existing
conditions,
looks
at
some
of
the
projects
that
we
have
been
able
to
implement
since
2015,
and
then
it
take
does
goes
through
an
analysis
of
all
the
outstanding
projects.
It
also
has
developed
cost
estimates
for
all
those
projects.
C
C
However,
just
a
caveat
the
these
wakanda
projects,
they
do
not
include
rail,
trail,
bridges
or
trail
segments,
they're
programmed
as
separate
items
in
the
capital
improvements
program.
C
So
those
those
two
most
projects
already
have
their
own
line
item,
and
so
walk
and
wheel
are
smaller
projects
that
that
don't
include
these
we're
also
supposed
to
engage
the
transportation
advisory
committee
and
planning
zoning
commission
again
and
other
city
groups
as
necessary
in
the
planning
process.
C
So
for
completed
projects
to
date
we
have
the
broadway
mid
block.
Crossing
clarkson
street
was
our
first
bicycle
project,
which
was
in
conjunction
with
cherry
hills,
village.
We
share
a
board
with
cherry
hills
and
they
were
going
to
be.
We
were
scheduled
to
do
an
a
mill,
a
milling
and
overlay
of
that
street,
and
so
that
was
a
perfect
time
to
lay
down
some
sharer
markings
on
that
street
dartmouth
avenue
was
a
project
that
people
had
complained
long
long
long
time
about
and
it
was
crying
out.
C
It
really
needed
some
attention
and
it
was
it
took
a
long
time,
but
we
finally
got
there
and
I'll
share
some
information
with
you
later
on.
About
that
perspective,
we've
we've
able
to
add
some
additional
bicycle
parking
at
england
station
at
oxford
station.
C
C
The
little
dry
creek
trail
crossing
at
south
platte
river
drive
is.
It
was
a
identified
in
a
more
recent
plan
that
arapahoe
county
did,
which
was
the
south
platte
connections
plan,
which
looked
at
all
sorts
of
south
connections
to
the
south
platte
river,
mary
carter,
greenway,
all
the
way
from
the
denver
county
line
all
the
way
down
to
the
douglas
county
line.
C
There
was
also
the
mary
carter,
greenway
east
side
expansion,
so
an
additional
trail
segment
on
the
east
bank
was
added
from
union
avenue
to
oxford,
and
then
we
just
not
too
long
ago,
finished
up
the
oxford
avenue
project,
which
featured
some
really
nice
bike
lanes
from
navajo
windermere
to
broadway
and
then
completing
the
segment
to
clarkson
with
sharos
and
then
very
recently.
Just
a
few
months
ago,
we
completed
the
zunai
street
improvements
that
was
in
conjunction
with
denver
as
well.
C
That
is
a
continuation
of
bicycle
lanes
that
were
developed
in
littleton
from
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
where
far
south,
but
pretty
far
south
and
then
up
to
our
border
at
bellevue
and
those
were
continued
by
the
city
of
ingwood.
Up
to,
I
believe
they
end
at
tufts
and
then
trans
then
they
transitioned
to
sheryl
markings
to
the
north.
All
the
way
to
kenya.
C
And
so
here
is
some
pictures
of
some
of
the
completed
projects
that
we
have
on
the
left.
Here
you
see
the
mid-block
crossing
on
broadway.
C
That
was
something
that
we
had
worked
on
for
a
long
time
had
took
our
public
works
people
to
longmont
to
see
their
mid-block
crossings,
but
we
really
got
traction
on
it
once
this
broadway
lofts
was
going
in,
and
the
business
community
really
started
to
get
behind
it
and
really
put
some
pressure
on
on
the
city
to
act
on
that
and
in
the
middle
picture
we
have.
C
This
is
oxford
avenue
as
you're
approaching
broadway
from
the
west
looking
to
the
east,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
painted
markings
that
we
have
there
to
to
separate
the
bicyclists
from
the
vehicles,
whether
they're
going
straight
or
turning
and
then
on
the
right
side.
This
is
the
dartmouth
avenue
project
as
well.
C
And
we
also
have
some
projects
that
are
in
progress.
The
public
works
department
has
gone
out
and
gotten
a
grant.
Some
grants
money
for
the
west
dartmouth
avenue
project
which
is
from
zuni
to
south
platte
river
drive.
So
we
can
kind
of
extend
our
our
dartmouth
corridor
even
farther
west.
C
C
Public
works
has
has
selected
consultant
to
do
some
design
work
for
the
segment
of
old,
hampton
from
broadway
to
lafayette,
we're
going
to
get
for
this
project
at
about
20
design
level
and
hopefully
we're
hoping
to
use
that
to
go
after
additional
grant
funds
to
complete
the
project,
and,
I
believe,
also
the
rail
trail
pedestrian
bridge
over
oxford
avenue
that
has
recently
been
finished.
The
design
work
for
it
and
the
construction.
I,
as
I
understand,
will
take
place
later
this
year.
C
All
right,
let's,
let's
turn
to
outreach,
so
we
we
started
this
project
in,
I
believe
in
september
so
or
august
september
in
that
time
period,
and
so
the
first
thing
we
did
was
hey.
We
know
about
this
inwood
block
party,
so
we
better
get
our
consultants
out
there,
and
so
the
consultants
had
a
booth
on
broadway
there
on
september
18th
and
they
were
able
to
make
50
contacts
with
people
who
are
interested
in
learning
about
the
project
and
giving
their
feedback.
C
C
We
held
a
city
council
study
session
on
november
22nd,
and
then
we
wanted
to
do
a
web
page
survey
to
reach
out.
We
have
a
great
communications
department
these
days
and
they
really
know
how
to
get
the
word
out
through
social
media
and
that
survey
went
out
and
was
available
from
november
5th
through
the
19th.
C
Survey
takeaways
this
is
the
consultant's
take
existing
bicycle
network
is
not
comfortable
for
most
residents.
Facilities
are
not
continuous
and
barriers
result
in
circuitous
and
high
stress
routes.
C
C
And
so
I
looked
at
all
the
comments
in
the
survey
too,
and
there
was
341,
I
believe
so.
That
was
a
really
good
response
rate
and
what
I
took
out
of
it
was
that
I
saw
a
lot
of
comments
that
said
that
dartmouth
is
a
lot
better
than
it
was,
but
the
city
needs
to
keep
moving
towards
separated
facilities
and
so
on
the
dartmouth
corridor,
because
there
are
a
few
places
where
there
are
quite
a
bit
of
parking
that
residents
that
live
on
that
corridor
and
utilize.
C
We
decided
that
we,
maybe
we
in
order
to
kind
of
make
this
go
faster.
We
should
concentrate
on
kind
of
a
shared
parking
bicycle
lane
facility,
and
but
I
it
seems
to
me
that
people
kind
of
want
us
to
keep
moving
towards
a
more
separated
type
of
facilities,
either
removing
parking
altogether
or
being
able
to
delineate
separate
parking
spaces
lanes
and
separate
bicycle
aids.
C
We
also,
I
also
saw
a
lot
of
comments
about
sure.
Markings
in
lieu
of
separated
lanes
aren't
really
all
that
great
people
don't
really
feel
that
comfortable
with
them,
especially
on
a
busy
street
on,
but
well
one
of
the
streets
of
the
early
streets.
C
We
did
was
clarkson
street
and
that
is
cheryl
markings
but
and
sure
and
clark's
street
is
kind
of
one
of
those
in
between
streets,
where
it's
not
an
oxford
or
a
dartmouth,
but
it's
probably
busier
than
your
local
sherman
street
and
there
it
is
something
that
people
kind
of
like
to
do
use
as
a
cut
through,
and
so
that's
something
we
need
to
think
about
as
well,
and
we
also
heard
that
the
concurrent
condition
of
little
dry
creek
west,
of
a
coma
that
trail
is
not
acceptable
and
that's
something
we've
struggled
with
for
many
years.
C
C
Oh,
where
am
I
supposed
to
go
now,
so
there's
not
really
very
good
directions
there,
but
your
the
intent
was
that
you
would
turn
to
the
left
and
and
towards
the
denny's
and
cross
over
that
driveway
and
then
around
the
corner
down
to
the
highway
and
then
over
to
cherokee
come
up
cherokee
cross
the
light,
and
then
then
it's
a
little
bit
more
clear.
C
There's
a
new
path,
that's
very
wide
that
will
take
you
up
to
the
traffic
circle,
then
take
you
left
over
to
aladdi
and
then
crossing
up
the
lights
up
north
up
here
to
where
the
wall
is
and
then
that
former
little
street
behind
the
wall
you're
supposed
to
take
that,
and
it
eventually
connects
you
into
the
trail,
the
more
formalized
trail
that
gets
you
over
to
the
maricar
greenway
but
yeah.
This
is
something
that
is
we've
looked
at
in
the
past,
but
we've
never
really
had.
C
We've
never
really
had
support
from
public
works
to
really
do
anything
and
it's
very
expensive.
But
so
that's
something
we
understand.
We
know
that
it
is
out
there
that
we
need
to
work.
C
Look
at
that,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
identify
some
significant
funding
to
do
that,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
also
came
out
away
with
in
the
survey
was
that
there
are
some
apprehension
regarding
to
changes
to
streets
in
general,
because
we
in
this
planning
exercise,
it's
really
not
necessary,
has
not
been
identified
exactly
what
the
improvements
will
look
like
to
each
street.
Some
people
are
kind
of
worried
about
that.
What
are
you
planning
for
my
street
and
that?
C
What
that
tells
me
is
that
we
really
need
to
be
careful
in
these
planning
endeavors.
We
really
need
to
have
in
many
cases
a
process
where
we
begin.
We
begin
the
whole
process
of
designing
these
streets
by
reaching
out
to
the
public
and
having
community
meetings,
to
look
at
the
alternatives
and
get
buy-in
before
we
go
ahead
and
start
designing
and
then
actually
constructing
things.
C
All
right
so
existing
conditions,
the
the
planning
consultant
started
off
with
after
we've
identified
what
we've
done.
Well,
then,
we
they
compiled
the
extending
project
list
and
that
was
compiled
from
the
2015
walking,
will
master
plan
as
well
as
the
2019
south
platte
connection,
study
and
public
input
and
53
projects
were
identified.
C
C
C
Some
of
the
measures
there
are,
how
does
it
improve
connection
to
key
destinations
and
how
does
it
improve
access
to
transit
and
a
rating
system
was
established
one
for
no
change,
two
minor
three
moderate
four
substantial
and
this
they
they
went
through
a
subjective
exercise
with
that
to
kind
of
rate
these
things
each
each
corridor
and
give
it
a
score
same
with
cost.
Only
this
time
one
point
was
given
to
highest
cost
projects,
and
four
points
is
given
to
the
lowest
cost
projects
with
demand.
C
So
just
a
little
bit
about
the
15-minute
city
radius,
those
those
that's
is
a
fairly
new
concept
that
we
we
heard
from
councilman
anderson
about,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
was
to
take
things
that
people
wanted
to
go
to
grocery
stores
or
parks,
schools
or
medical
clinics
or
other
shopping
activities,
and
we
wanted
to.
We
mapped
those
all
out
and
we
we
created
these
walking,
walk
sheds
and
bike
sheds
five-minute.
C
C
We
also
rated
the
project
on
ease
of
implementation.
Does
it
have
right-of-way
impacts?
Does
it
have
parking
impacts?
Does
it
require
multi-agency
coordination?
C
C
Looking
at
the
facility
types
that
we
are
considering
for
bicycles
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
we
have
the
traditional
striped
bicycle
lanes:
the
lower
left
right
corner.
C
This
is
an
example
of
buffered
bicycle
lanes
and
that's
a
little
bit
different,
because
it
adds
this
extra
stripe
to
the
left
side
of
the
lane,
which
further
gives
it
more
of
a
cushion
for
the
bicycle
rider.
Vis-A-Vis,
the
vehicle
travel
aid,
and
this
street
here
is
our
new
zunai
street
improvements
and
then
to
the
left.
We
have
two
examples
from
neighborhood
bikeway
projects,
I'm
not
quite
sure
where
the
left
one
comes
from,
where
that
is.
C
But
what
that
shows
is
some
post
and
paint
bulb
outs
to
narrow
the
traffic
way
to
slow
traffic,
and
this
one
here
is
is
in
denver,
is
the
on
the.
I
believe
the
35th
avenue
neighborhood
bicycle
way,
and
this
is
an
example
of
a
traffic
circle
in
the
intersection
and
what
that
does
is
to
significantly
slow
vehicle
traffic
to
speeds
that
will
be
more
compatible
with
bicyclists
and
to
create
more
comfort
for
those
bicycle
riders.
C
C
Planning
cost
is
about
3
500
per
mile,
with
a
design
cost
of
5
000
per
mile
and
a
construction
cost
of
41.5
per
mile,
with
a
total
cost
of
about
50
000
per
mile
buffered
bicycle
lanes
are
a
little
bit
more
expensive,
there's
a
little
bit
more
more
paint
involved,
and
so
that
cost
goes
upward
to
about
75
000
per
mile,
and
then
he
gets
the
neighborhood
bikeway
improvements
and-
and
this
is
much
more
expensive-
these
are
more
physical
improvements
to
a
street
and
so
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
planet
goes
involved
with
this,
because
you
need
to
have
a
full-blown
master
planning
community
meetings
with
this
to
look
at
the
different
alternatives
and
get
by
it
and
so
planning
costs
for
neighborhood.
C
Bicycle
ways
will
start
at
about
5
49
000
per
mile,
with
design
costs
at
80
500
per
mile
and
construction
costs
of
220
500
per
mile,
with
the
total
cost
of
350
000
per
mile.
Now
these
cost
estimates
they.
The
consultant
has
been
highly
involved
with
these
types
of
projects
in
denver
in
the
last
couple
years,
and
so
that's
where
their
experiences
come
from
and
then
finally,
the
shared
use
path.
That's
that's
the
off
street
type
of
path
like
the
mary
carter
greenway.
C
These
are-
and
this
is
kind
of
surprised
me
too,
how
much,
how
much
this
can
cost
and
so
planning
costs
not
too
bad,
but
design
cost
and
construction
cost
is
up
to
a
million
dollars
per
mile.
So
on-street
bicycle
paths
are
much
more
expensive
coming
in
at
over
1.1
million
per
mile.
C
All
right
so
so
they
took
all
those
they.
They
took
all
the
projects
and
and
rated
them
on
all
those
different
levels
and
criteria,
and
this
is
what
the
result
was.
C
Our
highest
performing
project
is
sherman
street,
with
a
prioritization
score
of
41.,
some
other
ones
that
are
included
here
are,
and
they
we
had
to
divide
these
up
into
different
segments
because
they
were
going
to
be
too
expensive
to
do
the
whole
thing
from
yale
to
all
the
way
down
to
shenango
or
or
bellevue
or
wherever.
So
we
had
to
kind
of
break
them
up
into
three
different
segments,
and
so
the
sherman
street
segments
are
are
all
pretty
high.
C
C
C
Quincy
avenue
and
bates
avenue
fall
a
little
bit
farther
down
the
list,
and
we
also
have
southwest
green
belt
here
as
well
and
floyd
avenue
from
broadway
to
university.
However,
that
one's
a
fairly
low
price
project,
so
we
may
see
it
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
we
also
also
have
tier
one
wayfinding
signage
projects
identified
so
they're.
These
are
pretty
easy
to
implement.
You
can
see
to
the
right.
These
are
pretty
low
costs.
C
Fifteen
thousand
two
seven
five,
seven
thousand
five
hundred,
so
our
top
priorities
for
wayfinding
were
big
dry
creek,
ingwood
parkway
northampton
avenue
and
the
mario
kart
greenway
and
england
station
just
below
that.
We
then
that's
kind
of
where
the
the
dividing
line
was
between
tier
one
and
tier
two
projects,
projects
that
fell
in
the
tier
two
were
west
union
avenue
and
south
decatur
street
west
tufts
and
broadway
intersection,
south
federal
boulevard,
mid
block
south
of
west
stanford
avenue
and
the
mid
block
crossing
at
the
of
the
broadway
at
the
gothic
theater
and
then
below.
C
That
are
a
couple
of
tier
two
wayfinding
signage
projects
as
well.
C
So,
as
you
see,
most
projects
actually
fell
in
the
tier
one,
so
they're.
I
think
we
feel
pretty
good
about
them
in
the
fact
that
they
all
had
a
lot
of
value
for
based
on
the
analysis
and
even
the
tier
two
projects
are,
would
be
valuable.
It's
just
that
we
can't
do
all
these
things
all
at
once,
and
so
we
have
to
have
some
priorities
and
I
think
this
system,
this
analysis
has
helped
us
do
that.
C
Floyd
avenue
is
probably
going
to
rise
a
bit
beyond
its
score,
just
because
it's
pretty
low
cost,
that's
from
broadway
to
university,
and
we
do
have
some
design
work
already
for
that
project
and
then
some
other.
So
we
can
do
some
way.
Findings,
projects
right
away,
big
dry,
creek
way,
finding
wood,
parkway
little
dry,
creek
old,
hampton
and
the
england
station
mary
carter,
greenway.
C
B
Any
questions
yep
meg
thanks.
I
was
curious
about
well
first.
This
is
all
very
exciting.
I'm
glad
to
see
these
projects
planned.
My
question
is
about
the
dedicated
funding
for
capital
improvement.
Projects,
for
this
plan
is
that
what
does
that
look
like?
Is
it
a
percentage
of
funding
each
year?
Is
it
a
flat
amount?
C
So
at
the
current
capital
improvements
program
looks
out,
I
believe,
four
or
five
years,
and
it
does
vary
a
little
bit
by
year,
but
it's
generally
right
now
in
the
200
to
250
000
range,
and
I
have
to
tell
you
that
when
those
cost
estimates
came
in
and
I
looked
at
those
costs
and
then
I
looked
at
and
then
I
looked
at
the
budgets
that
we
have.
C
But
that
said,
I
think
that
they're,
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
there's
going
to
be
this
is
kind
of
precipitated
kind
of
a
need,
I
believe,
to
identify
some
additional
funding
sources
to
increase
some
of
these
budgets.
C
C
But
I
think
I'm
hoping
that
that
there
is
a
realization
that,
in
that
you
know
these
cattle
improvements
programs
they
they
are
revised
every
year
and
every
year
or
two
way,
and
hopefully
that
that
that
that
now
that
they
have
a
good
handle
on
these
costs,
that
we
can
make
some
adjustments
in
the
funding
as
well.
B
A
A
John
help
me
understand
what
exactly
you
would
like
from
the
commission
this
evening.
C
B
Yeah
I
just
heard
one
question-
and
this
is
very
small
in
the
whole
plan
is,
I
thought
some
of
the
wayfinding
could
was
going
to
get
paid
for
by
the
downtown
authority
under
their
not
a
grant
it's
their
funding
that
we
approved,
but
just
specifically
the
area
around
the
hospital.
B
C
C
So
we
would.
We
would
definitely
like
to
probably
partner
with
them.
They
you're
correct
in
the
fact
that
they,
in
the
fairly
immediate
future,
will
maybe
not
today,
but
you
know
a
year
or
two
should
have
a
good
nice
funding
stream
from
their
tax,
increment
financing
revenue
streams
and,
as
time
goes
on,
they
will
have.
They
will
be
more
and
more
flush
with
funding.
C
D
This
is
going
to
be
really
expensive,
but
if
you
could
join
in
with
some
other
groups
or
whatever,
what
I'm
talking
about
is
the
little
dry
creek
trail
and
extending
it
from
clarkson
clear
to
the
platte
river,
which
would
mean
pulling
it
out
of
the
ground
for
the
about
a
half
a
mile
or
where
you
have
that
the
other
colored
markings
on
your
your
map.
D
Is
there
any
any
reasonable
talk
about
that
that
to
make
that
a
green
belt
from
clear
across
town?
It's
it
would
be
a
nice
bike
path
and
a
walkability
path
and
again
a
green
belt.
You
got
the
creek
going
down
through
there
and
you
get
a
probably
be
a
block
wide,
maybe
green
belt,
but
that
would
be
really
nice
to
have
that
going
through
clear
through
the
city.
C
It
sure
would
but
yeah-
and
there
has
been
some
actual
investigation
of
that
when
we
were
dan
premba,
the
chief
redevelopment
officer
early
on
when
they
started
working
with
the
skb
master
developer.
C
They
were
looking
at
quite
a
bit
of
an
area
beyond
where
they're
looking
at
now
at
and
they
were
looking
at.
They
were
talking
to
some
different
property
owners
and
they
were
also
doing
some
investigation
of
that
a
whole
idea
of
of
daylighting
that
a
little
dry
creek
tunnel,
but
the
costs
were
very
prohibitive
to
do
it
and
I'm
unless
there
could
be,
I'm
not
sure
how
we
would
get
there.
Quite
frankly,
it
was
tremendously
expensive
yeah
and
I
I
I
think
the
chances
are
pretty
low
for
that.
C
But
we
will
try
to.
We've
talked
to
our
one
of
the
consultants,
the
design,
consultants,
tribal
architects
and
we've
kind
of
asked
them
to
try
to
how
they
can
how
they
can
acknowledge
the
spirit,
if
not
the
exact
letter
of
that
design,
and
so
how?
How
can
they
come
up
with
a
nice
green
way
that
maybe
doesn't
daylight?
The
creek.
B
B
Thanks,
I
might
be
in
here
somewhere
and
I
missed
it,
but
just
looking
through
that
spreadsheet,
that
you're
sharing
of
all
of
the
prioritized
projects
there
are
a
lot
of
them
and
then,
in
looking
at
the
update
on
page
26,
there's
a
nice
chart
that
shows
kind
of
the
next
10
years.
What
products
we
funded
when,
but
that
only
covers
a
small
handful
of
the
projects
in
the
pool
prioritized
list
it
do
you
have
a
I
mean.
B
C
Yes,
so
yeah,
I
have
not
so
I
I
created
this
chart
here.
The
consultant
really
didn't
do
this.
I
did
it
and
I
felt
that
once
we
had
the
plan
and
the
cost
estimates
that
we
really
needed
some
more
information
and
because
there
wasn't,
it
was
really
going
to
make
people
have
to
figure
it
out
themselves
and
our.
I
know
that
our
public
works
department
is
very
stretched
today
and
wouldn't
really
be
able
to
put
a
lot
of
energy
into
that.
C
C
I'm
hoping,
though,
that
people
that
people
in
high
places
that
have
that
budgeting
power,
such
as
city
council
and
the
city
manager,
I'm
hoping
that
there's
some
additional
push
to
increase
those
budgets.
So
we
can
do
that
this
faster.
C
This
kind
of
shows
you
how
slow
long
and
slow
that
process
is
going
to
be
that
just
these
handful
of
projects
that
flow
to
the
top
that's
a
10-year
time
period
and
there's
a
lot
of
projects
that
are
still
on
that
list
that
don't
get
any
attention
at
all
during
that
10-year
time
period
and,
as
I
recall,
I
think,
the
entire
all
the
projects
together
in
that
tier
one
boy
is
something
like
11
million
yeah,
and
you
know
looking
at
this
we've
gotten
to
about
2.5
million
dollars,
and
you
know
based
on
that,
it's
going
to
be
50
years
before
you
get
all
that
done.
C
My
guess
is
that,
being,
I
think,
I'm
guessing
there's
enough
support
from
city
council
and
there's
enough
support
out
there
from
there's
constituents
that
that
are
really
wanting
to
see.
Some
of
these
things
happen.
There
are
going
to
want
to
see
it
happen
faster.
That's
really!
What
where
this
whole
funding
stream
came
from
was
because
it
was
coming
too
slow
and
people
want
to
see
more
faster,
and
this
is
going
to
show
people
that
more
is
needed,
and
I
don't.
C
This
is
a
good
tool
right
now,
but
I
don't
see
this
as
being
the
final
say
or
final
direction.
I'm
hoping
that
that
this
is
something
that
is
not
static.
That's
not
necessary.
We
have
to
follow
this
schedule,
it's
not
a
law,
it's
just
a
suggested
schedule
based
on
what
we
know
today,
and
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
great
tool
to
help
people
realize
that
we
we
need
to
rethink
it
a
little
bit
more
and
we're
going
to
need
to
program
more
dollars
sooner,
so
we
can
get
through.
C
B
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
pricing.
You
had
showed
a
slide
with
four
different
interventions
and
sort
of
the
cost
per
mile,
and
I
noticed
it
didn't
quite
tie
to
the
actual
projects
you
know
like
there
was
a
the
very
long
project
on
sherman
was
much
cheaper
than
would
have
been
expected
if
you
would
have
plugged
it
in
for
the
price
per
mile
of
the
slide
right
before
it.
All
this,
to
say,
some
of
the
prioritization
of
these
projects
were
based
on
cost
estimates.
C
Sure
so,
yes,
you're
correct
in
the
fact
that
these
are
sort
of
these
are
not.
This
is
not
something
that
we
were
able
to
scope
out
an
exact
design
for,
because
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
in
the
design,
especially
when
we
need
to
go
out
and
talk
to
the
community
and
see
what
will
be
acceptable
and
what
won't
and
so
there'll
be
a
lot
of
design
process
there.
That
then
we'll
be
able
to
get
to
a
more
we'll,
be
able
to
get.
C
C
So
this
is
kind
of
a
lot
of
these
estimates
are
kind
of
a
magnitude
of
order,
kind
of
cost
and
so
they're,
not
yes,
and
so
sometimes,
and
there's
a
lot
of
rounding
as
well
in
this
involved.
Here
too
sometimes,
I
also
question
the
consultant
on
some
of
the
costs
and
I
found
out
that
well,
they
were
there's
a
little
bit.
There's
a
nuance
there,
where
there's
a
certain
section
of
a
court
over
they're,
proposing
a
little
bit
higher
a
little
bit
different
facility
rather
than
on
street
bicycle
lanes,
they're.
D
A
couple
of
quick
ones
here,
the
the
oxford
station
is
there.
You
know
I,
I
guess.
C
There
is
that
was
studied
in
the
south
platte
connection
study
that
was
done
by
arapahoe
county.
It
would
be,
I
think
so.
Sheridan
will
be
responsible,
of
course,
from
santa
fe
onwards,
and
I
believe
that
they
have
that.
That
would
be
probably
part,
mostly
an
off
street
trail.
There
may
be.
There
was
also,
I
can't
remember
now
if
there
was
some.
C
The
other
thing
that
I
would
kind
of
recall
was
that
there
was
a
possible
alternative
where
that
they
would
remove
some
of
the
lanes
on
oxford,
cut
it
down
to
two
lanes,
one
lane
each
way
with
a
turn
lane
in
the
center,
and
then
you
could
do
some
bicycle
lanes
on
the
street
itself
and
then,
of
course
you
have
the
the
issue
with
getting
across
santa
fe
and
that
there's,
unfortunately,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
really
a
great
way
to
do
that,
we
may
some
people
in
public
works
have
talked
about
that.
C
C
That
would
be
similar
to
the
bellevue
avenue
overpass,
and
that
would
solve
a
lot
of
the
safety
issues
that
we
have
today,
so
that
you,
the
bicyclists
and
pedestrians,
would
be
able
to
walk
under
that
underpass
and
would
be
able
to
have
a
lot
of
different
safety
refuges
along
the
way
with
signals.
Just
like
you
see
over
at
bellevue
avenue.
C
Yes,
so
they're,
something
related
to
that
is
that
there
are.
There
is
camera
technology
that
has-
and
I
I
believe
that
was
established
on
oxford
avenue,
so
that
that
there
are
cameras
that
are
in
addition
to
the
camera
for
traffic
lane.
C
There
are
dedicated
bicycle
cameras
as
well,
and
if
you
and
this
kind
of
requires
some
education,
but
if
you
there's
a
little
marking
there
at
the
end
of
the
lane
at
the
intersection,
if
you,
if
you
put
your
bicycle
there,
you
will
be
able
to
be
detected
by
the
camera
so
that
we
do
have
that
that
technology
is
available
and
we
are
looking
to
utilize
it.
When
we
can
bicycle
signals.
Separate
bicycle
signals.
C
On
some
on
streets
like
broadway
yeah,
that's
something
that
could
be
interesting,
especially,
I
think,
with
that
little
dry,
creek
trail,
there's
quite
a
number
of
crossings
of
streets
there
and
that's
something
to
look
into
is
how
could
you
utilize
different
kinds
of
signal
technologies
so
that
people
don't
have
to
like
actually
press
a
button?
They
can
just
roll
up
to
the
to
the
crosswalk
and
they
will
detect
you
and
then
they'll.
Give
you
a
bicycle
signal.
That's
all
your
own.
A
I
have
a
quick
question:
john
we've
recently
as
a
commission
approved
some
projects
down
in
the
industrial
district
on
jason
street
and
that
whole
area
down
there,
and
I
think
at
least
two
of
those
projects
included
a
requirement
that
the
developer
donate
money
to
the
rail
trail
and
just
how
does
that
work?
Does
that
money
get
shifted?
Some
the
our
original
budget
for
the
rail
trail?
Let's
say
that
the
developer
is
going
to
replace
100
000
of
that.
Where
does
that
hundred
thousand
dollars?
Go.
C
I
believe
that
they
have
established
a
separate
account
in
the
city.
That
is,
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
going
to
be
co-mingled
into
just
the
general
fund.
It's
or
it's
going
to
be
put
into
its
own
accounting
line
in
its
own,
separate
account,
so
to
be
saved
for
that
to
be
utilized
for
that
in
the
near
future,
and
also
in
addition
to
the
rail
trail,
there's
also
the
developer
for
these
pods
across
there.
Hampton
is
also
willing
to
step
up
to
the
plate
and
help
us
do
some
of
these.
C
Some
of
these
projects
that
aren't
maybe
early
projects
on
our
list.
Kenyan
avenue
is
one
and
so
is
a
segment
of
elatti
fox
that
they
that
we
are
willing
to
do,
and
then
we've
looked
at
their
plans
and
made
some
other
suggestions
that
would
help
you
know
create
some
secondary
loops
off
the
main
trail
to
better
get
people
going
to
the
right
direction
towards
the
english
station
as
well.
Okay,.
A
Yeah,
that's
right!
Well,
and
and
in
reality
I
mean
budget
numbers
are
they're,
not
real
until
it
becomes
an
actual
so,
but
I
was
just
sort
of
thinking
forward
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
do
our
capital
improvement
recommendations
too
down
the
road.
Not
not
often,
you
know
to
not
talk
not
too
far
out
into
the
future.
So
anyway,
any
other
questions.
B
Fake
yeah,
sorry,
I'm
sure
you
just
made
me
think
of
something.
Since
we
do
review
the
capital
improvement
projects
annually.
Will
we
be
reviewing
these
as
well
and
the
funding
for
these
capital
improvement
projects,
or
is
it
separate
and
not
part
of
our
purview?
I
guess.
C
That's
a
really
good
question
and
I
hadn't
thought
about
that,
but
I
would
think
that
so
I'm
I
haven't
been
that
too
closely
involved
with
your
discussions
on
those
in
the
past,
and-
and
so
maybe
some
of
you
who
have
been
veterans
could
maybe
recall
some
of
that
how
how
extensive
you
got
into
some
of
these
programs
or
projects,
but
it
that
could
be
interesting.
C
I
think
it
would
be
in
your
purview
to
if
you
had
something
if
you
did
want
to
try
to
advance
a
certain
kind
of
project
within
that
walk
and
wheel
budget
line
that
would
be
kind
of
interesting
there.
I
don't
know
how
easy
you
know.
Obviously,
if,
if
you
wanted
something
that
was,
you
know
a
million
dollars
and
there's
only
still
only
250
000,
it
might
be
hard
for
us
to
do,
but
I
I
don't
know
I
think
right
now.
C
I
would
have
to
say
that
it's
a
possibility
that
you
that
you
may
be
able
to
in
the
future,
depending
on
what
the
budgets
look
like.
What
kind
of
line
item
we
have
is
that
there
could
be
some
leeway
to
make
some
choices,
and
I
I
would
sincerely
hope
that
that
that
happens.
I
can't
guarantee
it,
but
but
I'm
hoping
that
we,
that
these
some
of
these
budgets
are
increasing,
that
they're,
then
we
can
make.
There
will
be
more
reasonable
and
relevant
choices
to
be
made.
A
Well-
and
I
frankly
can't
remember-
sometimes
what
I
have
for
breakfast,
so
I
certainly
don't
recall
a
lot
of
details
about
the
budget,
except
for
we
don't
have
enough
money
for
everything
that
happens
every
year.
A
So
nancy
and
john,
what
I
need
is
a
motion
to
favorably
recommend
this
updated,
walk
and
wheel.
A
D
B
I
was
waiting
for
somebody
else
to
read
the
whole
message
you
know,
so
I
make
a
motion
that
and
help
me
out
here
with
the
verbiage
that
the
walk-in
wheels
program
be
added
to
these
comprehensive
plants.
B
A
The
only
thing
I
could
say
is
this
is
not
really
truly
discussion,
but
john
there's,
obviously
an
enormous
amount
of
work
that
you
put
into
this
document.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
That's
this
is
remarkable.
So.
B
A
Thank
you
again.
Okay,
according
to
my
agenda,
it's
I
showed
that
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
staff's
choice.
B
I
would
just
remind
you,
I
think
I
mentioned
it
last
meeting
april
25th
there's
going
to
be
a
joint
meeting
with
city
council
and
all
of
the
boards
and
commissions
that
review
the
capital
improvement
projects
list.
So
more
information
will
be
coming
out
on
that.
So,
if
you
could
just
set
aside
april
25th
at
six
o'clock
for
that
meeting,.
A
Okay,
so
I
attorneys
choice:
victoria
hi
there.
I
don't
have
anything
this
evening.
Thank
you
commissioner's
choice,
carl.