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1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes
Approval of Draft December 6, 2022 Minutes
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4. Elections
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5. Capital Improvement Plan
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C
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F
Yeah
it
build
kind
of
through
the
what
we
just
talked
about
I
think
the
biggest
focus,
at
least
from
my
understanding
from
chair
Austin
sorry
wants
to
talk
about
the
review
process
for
the
group
and
how
they
might
look
at
this
code
versus
the
old,
the
existing
code
and
items
that
nature
Michelle.
Please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
no.
C
No,
no
you're,
you're,
absolutely
correct,
and
it's
kind
of
what
Colin
hinted
to
at
the
beginning
of
the
UDC
meeting
is
that
Brenda
initiated
the
the
thought
about
hey?
Maybe
we
need
to
talk
amongst
ourselves
on
what
we
are
supposed
to
be
doing
with
this
a
year
and
a
half
into
the
process
and
how
we
want
to
discuss
it
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
I
also
had
a
concern.
F
D
D
There's
no
surprises
for
anyone
that
includes
the
public
that
includes
the
steering
committee
and
includes
the
Planning
Commission
and
Council.
So
with
that
we're
prepared
as
the
consultant
to
to
take
as
much
time
as
we
need,
but
also
go
as
as
quickly
as
is
expediently
to
get
some
of
these
ideas
in
place.
So
we
kind
of
have
bulleted
out
the
process.
We
think
we're
going
to
go
through
once
we
have
our
our
formal
Direction
on
some
of
the
the
few
lingering
items
we
had
in
that
last
meeting.
D
Obviously
this
committee
has
been
highly
involved
and
highly
influential
in
some
of
these
ideas.
So
if
you've
heard
anything
in
that
previous
presentation
or
if
there
are
things
that
you
weren't
quite
settled
on
in
our
our
original
discussions,
we're
completely
open
to
hearing
your
input
on
all
of
those.
D
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
easiest
way
to
put
it
so
those
section
maps
are
an
easy
way
to
get
into
that,
and
so
those
will,
those
I
believe
they
are
available
right
now
to
to
you
and
the
public
in
general.
But
we
wanted
I
would
suggest
that
that
might
be
a
way
to
kind
of
wade
into
some
of
these
topics
and
become
familiar
with
what?
D
What's
the
extent
of
some
of
the
changes
and
then
lastly,
of
course,
the
the
review
draft,
so
many
of
the
things
we
discussed
in
that
previous
meeting
that
were
in
this
presentation
are
either
affirming
or
leading
to
some
subtle
changes
to
the
previous
draft
or
leading
to
maybe
some
significant
changes
to
the
previous
draft
based
on
council's
Direction,
and
so
those
will
be
reissued
once
we
get
that
final
direction
from
them
in
in
March.
So
hopefully
we
could
turn
that
around
by
that
April
time
frame
to
where
we
know
hey.
D
This
is
the
one
that
we
think
as
the
consultant
team
and
staff.
We
want
to
recommend
that
the
city
adopts,
and
so
that
kind
of
starts
us
into
this
process
of
okay.
Let's,
let's
introduce
it
to
the
decision
makers
in
in
the
community
in
in
the
city,
the
boards
and
commissions,
let's
engage
the
public
again
to
get
comment
and
feedback,
maybe
some
specific
stakeholders
to
outreach
and
then
and
then
a
formal
adoption
process.
So
for
those
of
you
on
the
Planning
Commission.
D
That
would
either
be
a
time
to
give
us
more
comment,
suggestions,
feedback
or
for
those
of
you
that
are
new
to
the
commission,
to
kind
of
get
your
feet
wet
and
catch
up
and
we're
we're
willing
to
kind
of
help.
You
answer
questions
and
figure
any
of
that
out
so
I
don't
know
that
I
have
anything
more
detail
than
that.
I
will
say
from
doing
this
in
project
in
other
communities.
D
The
target
for
adopting
it
might
be
a
completely
different
timeline
based
on
you
know
what
type
of
direction
we
get
in
in
March,
what
type
of
feedback
we
might
get
in
a
public
open
house.
So
it's
it's
not
uncommon
that
these
things
either
speed
up
or
slow
down.
Based
on
that,
but
I
guess
I'll
pause
there
and
see
if
there's
any
specific
questions
or
Brian.
If
I've
spoken
out
of
term
for
what
you
and
staff
have
in
mind,.
G
H
Thanks
for
that
summer,
Chris
I
think
Brenda
also
noted
it
I
think
our
job
is
to
create
those
recommendations
present
it
to
council
But.
Ultimately,
Council
will
be
the
one
to
make
the
decision
they've
gone
through
it.
You
know
some
of
the
items.
One
time
are,
we
gonna
get
those
back
again
to
be
able
to
review
and
it
sounded
like
yes
and
then
it'll
just
go
to
console
for
the
final
time
or
will
it
be
changes
I,
guess
from
there
and
then
I
I
do
have
one
other
question
after
that.
So.
F
Yes,
once
once
we
get
through
these
work
sessions,
the
intention
is
to
come
up
with
a
final
recommended
draft
that
then
we
take
back
we'll
bring
back
to
you
all
and
it
goes
through
our
boards
and
commissions
Workshop.
That's
a
big
workshop
with
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
Transportation
advisory,
Commission,
Board
of
adjustment
and
appeals.
I
know
I'm
not
going
to
get
all
of
these
boards
in
this,
but
there's
quite
a
few
sustainability
committee.
F
We've
got
a
number
that
we're
trying
to
kind
of
coordinate
one
large
meeting
so
that
people
will
have
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
different
topics.
So,
yes,
it
will
come
back,
it's
not
once
this
goes.
It
just
goes
to
adoption.
It
will
come
back
to
the
steering
committee
and
the
plannings
of
the
commission.
H
H
F
I
D
D
However,
we
want
it
to
some
extent
you're
right
and
that
we're
presenting
this
is
what
we
heard,
but
we're
also
open
to
hearing.
Where
are
we
wrong
or
where
is
the
community
completely
divided
on
issues
so
that
we
know
going
into
the
adoption
process
of
you
know
where,
where
the
community
feels
on
some
of
these
issues,
so
we
we
hope
we're
on
target.
D
We
know
that
the
the
city
is
pushing
into
some
pretty
sensitive
areas,
I
guess
so
to
speak,
to
where
everyone's
not
going
to
agree,
but
we're
trying
to
strike
a
balance
on
all
of
the
the
large-scale
policy
issues
that
are
that
are
really
important
to
the
council,
as
well
as
all
of
the
issues
that
you
know
that
the
community
has
put
into
your
comprehensive
plan
so
that
public,
open
house
is
for
us
to
a
chance
to
say
here's
what
we
heard:
here's
what
we
think
we're
recommending
now.
What
do
you
think
so?
D
F
And
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
say
is
we're
starting
to
hear
a
lot
more.
Have
you
watched
any
of
the
recent
Council
meetings?
There's
been
a
lot
of
public
comment
on
certain
topics
generally
around
housing
and
even
now
we're
having
more
attendance
at
our
steering
committee
meetings
so
we're
starting
to
hear
more
there's
other
ways
that
citizens
can
comment
through
the
Englewood
engaged
website.
They
can
send
information
to
myself
but
yeah.
J
Thanks
so
yeah
I
do
think
that
time
frame
is
very
ambitious,
because
what
I?
What
I
think
I'd
like
to
see?
Is
our
committee
looking
at
title
16,
that's
what
we're
changing
and
if
you're
done
working
on
chapters
one
through
four,
it
looks
like
six.
Seven,
eight
I'd
like
to
see
our
Planning
and
Zoning
meetings
begin
with
those
and
go
chapter
by
chapter
and
look
at
the
changes
in
the
red
lines
that
you've
presented,
because
sometimes
we've
seen
red
lines
and
other
times
we've
gotten
PDFs
and
conceptual
designs,
and
then
yeah.
J
J
That
would
be
too
confusing
to
try
to
review
it
in
it
into
those
three
chapters:
I
I
I,
don't
know
if
the
rest
of
the
group
agrees
but
I
think
if
we
we
should
go
chapter
by
chapter
and
find
consensus
that
way
before
we
I
mean,
if
that's
the
draft
I'm
saying
but
I,
don't
see
just
what
seeing
as
have
a
couple
workshops
about
all
of
this
and
and
settling
sending
it.
That
way,
that's
just
my
two
cents.
C
Sorry
sorry
I
was
muted
I'd
like
to
Second
what
Colin
said.
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
to
all
of
us
and
the
public
to
have
one
place
where
they
could
go
where
we
could
go
and
see
all
of
the
section
drafts,
and
if
it's
not
a
huge
thing,
I'd
really,
if
Brian
you
and
Nancy
can
get
together
and
make
that
happen,
I
I
would
think
that'd
be
very,
very
helpful.
C
I
I
also
think
that
this
process
may
slow
down
quite
a
bit
at
this
point,
I
went
to
a
meeting
the
other
day
and
it
was
about
this
whole
thing
with
changing
the
R1
zoning
which
I
had
had
not
heard
of
before
and
I
was
like.
This
is
confusing
and
then
tonight
to
see
it
presented
as
and
and
I
did
watch
part
of
council's
meeting
last
night.
C
It
kind
of
was
a
shock
to
me
that
would
be
sort
of
like
just
you
know.
It
was
a
surprise
to
me.
I'll
just
put
it
that
way,
so
I
do
think
it's
going
to
slow
down
and
I
do
think,
but
in
the
same
thing
is
that
I
don't
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
time,
although
I'm
not
going
to
be
chair
anymore,
but
I
don't
want
to
spend
pnz
spending
a
whole
lot
of
time
on
hashing
things
that
are
going
to
be
drastically
changed
right
under
our
feet.
C
F
And
I
I
do
want
to
say
something
as
far
as
you're
comment
on
changing
the
R1
zoning.
The
way
it's
written
right
now,
there
would
be
no
change
to
the
district
itself,
except
for
this.
The
conversation
that
they're,
having
is
what
you
would
call
a
density
bonus
offered
for
affordable
housing,
so
it
wouldn't
be
changing
r1a
to
any
other
District
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear,
because
we
have
gotten
a
lot
of
questions
about
that,
but
again
what
what
they're
talking
about
with
the
two
to
four
units
would
be
considered.
F
I
Affordable
housing,
eighty
percent
is,
is
not
affordable.
That's
that's
not
even
close.
Sixty
percent
I
think
60
was
brought
up
there,
but
as
if
you
take
four
units
make
one
of
them
affordable
housing.
Does
that
eliminate
the
tax
requirement
for
the
whole
building?
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
about
that
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
really
works,
but.
I
B
F
H
I'm
not
as
worried
about
the
existing
one,
I've
got
a
copy
of
that
and
I've
got
the
draft
ones
that
we've
we've
gotten
I
guess
I
feel
like
that.
The
existing
is
a
searchable
document.
These
drafts
are
not,
or
you
know,
searchable
to
be
found
in
on
the
internet.
If,
if
we
have
a
link,
someplace
great
I'm,
not
as
worried
about
that
at
least
that's
a
published
document,
yeah.
C
E
B
Correct
we
were
taking
care
of
that.
So
thank
you
for
that.
For
that
reminder,
Colin
before,
because
you're
next
with
your
hand,
I
just
wanted
to
let
our
attendees
know
our
public
know.
I
see.
Miss
White
has
her
hand
raised.
When
we
get
to
the
public
comment
section
of
the
agenda,
we
will
be
able
to
call
on
you
and
allow
you
to
speak.
So
it's
just
a
little
bit
of
a
different
procedure.
So
Colin.
H
H
It's
not
like
this
was
being
done
in
the
Bubble
Level
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
trying
to
go
back
and
redo
things
that
we
did
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
it
and
work
through
and
and
are
trying
to
do,
for
the
betterments
of
of
the
city
of
Inglewood,
but
saying
that
we
shouldn't
take
into
account
any
of
these
things,
but
just
let's
not
be
like
hey
we're
not
going
to
get
done
in
May
or
August.
For
that
matter.
H
H
I
lost
my
train
of
thought
on
what
I
was
gonna
ask
about
the
the
process
with
yeah.
Never
mind
so:
let's
try
not
to
get
completely
start
overall.
I
was
just
saying
if
we
need
to
maybe
we
need
to
have
a
couple
more
meetings
to
go
through
some
of
these
more
technical
chapters
and
I
know:
we've
had
to
cancel
a
lot.
You
know
holidays
all
those
things
we're
back,
it's
not
the
end
of
February
and
we
haven't
had
a
meeting
really
for
a
while.
H
B
G
But
you
know,
in
anticipation
of
that
open
house
to
be
better
responsive
to
those
issues
that
have
come
up
and
provide
that
kind
of
reminder
that
we've
heard
you
you
know
we're
not
ignoring
the
concerns,
but
this
is
where
it
was
addressed
or,
or
you
know,
potentially
Council
overrode.
You
know
something
that
was
recommended
so
that
we're
just
more
proactive
in
that
environment.
D
Yeah,
so
I
would
address
that
question
and
with
there's
three
there's
kind
of
layers
and
levels
of
information
about
how
we
progress
to
to
where
we
are
right
now.
So
to
me,
the
easiest
way
to
do
that
and
it's
something
we
would
plan
on
doing
anyway,
as
we
begin
to
once
we
realize,
where
we're
at
after
March
13th
or
whenever
we
get
the
form
we'll
kind
of
final
Direction.
D
D
In
those
section
maps
that
I
mentioned,
one
of
the
things
that's
been
brought
up
by
this
group
is
the
idea
of
red
lines
or
strikethroughs-
that's
really
difficult
to
do
from,
although
we
understand
the
desire
for
that,
so
you
can
kind
of
be
alerted
to
what's
changing
when
we're
redoing
the
whole
code
that
begins
to
quickly
turn
into
a
big
mess.
It's
very
hard
to
understand
and
read
and
track.
D
So
what
we
typically
like
to
do
is
provide
that
in
a
more
summary
section,
so
that
third
element
would
be
those
section
maps
that
say:
here's
what
your
old
code
said:
here's
what
your
new
code
says
or
the
proposed
code
says
and
here's.
Why
so
that
I
think
those
three
elements
would
certainly
present
that
bigger
picture
that
you're
asking
for,
and
so
we
would
certainly
plan
on
doing
that
at
whatever
point
we
we
have
something
that
we're
introducing
to
for
adoption
foreign.
I
B
J
J
J
H
One
quick
follow-up:
it's
never
going
to
be
perfect
and
it
can't
be
perfect
because
then
it
would
not
be
able
to
be
flexible,
but
what
I
think
Chris
and
the
team
are
doing
is
provide
the
framework,
for
these
are
the
guidelines
that
they
said,
and
here
are
the
steps.
If
we
need
to
do
some
sort
of
variance
or
some
sort
of
process
around
it,
because
it
can't
be
everything
for
everything
every
specific
project,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
give
the
city
and
and
the
team
the
right
tools
to
be
able
to.
C
C
I
C
Thank
you
very
much,
and
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
public
forum.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
public
to
address
the
commission
and
regarding
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda,
we
will
not
engage
in
a
dialogue
or
answer
questions
during
this
time
and
we
might
direct
you
to
staff
or
other
sources
in
response
to
your
questions.
B
C
We
welcome
it
very
much
so
we're
all
citizens
ourselves
and
do
this
on
a
volunteer
basis
and
we'd
love
to
hear
feedback
from
the
public
at
any
time.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
all
right.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
elections
of
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair.
Do
I
hear
enough
many
nominations
for
chair.
H
C
But
I
don't
think
so
and
Nancy
happy
to
have
you
jump
in
too.
She
resigned
quite
suddenly
and
unexpectedly,
because
she
had
some
very
significant
things
in
her
life
happened
and
she
just
didn't
feel
that
she
had.
You
know
she's
she's,
very
committed
to
this
job
and
doing
it
as
well
I'm
very
committed
to
the
city
of
Inglewood,
as
we
all
know,
through
her
work
with
the
chamber
and
everything
else
and
just
didn't
feel
like
she
could
put
her
best
foot
forward
on
the
commission.
C
H
C
Right
and
that
that
is
the
tradition
that
I
mean
it's
I
mean
it's
just
a
tradition,
it's
all
I,
know
and
I
think
Kate
Townley.
You
know
helped
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
that,
but
oftentimes
the
vice
year
is
the
next
chair.
So
Judy
was
the
vice
chair,
so
she's
gone
now,
so
we
have.
We
have
two
nominations
for
you,
Colin
already
and
the
other
nominations.
C
C
A
B
H
C
J
Well,
you
know
what
I
hope:
it's
not
presumptuous,
but
Ms
Tina,
praying
here,
I
understand
used
to
work
on
you
serve
on
the
school
board
if
I'm
correct,
and
maybe
yes,
so
maybe
this
would
be
something
you
would
be
open
to
being
the
co-chair
of
this
committee.
If
anybody,
unless
somebody
else
wants
to
do
it,
okay,
you'd
be
great
Carl
you'd,
be
great.
Y'all
would
be
great,
but
I
was
just
thinking
of
her
experience.
G
E
G
C
B
H
C
B
C
A
K
B
C
B
C
H
A
H
Yeah
for
I
guess
for
everybody
who
doesn't
know
one
of
the
key
items
at
the
plan
and
Zoning
commission
does
is
actually
presents
the
capital
Improvement
plan
to
city
council
for
approval.
So
it's
our
responsibility
to
go
through
and
really
try
to
help
prioritize.
What
the
city
of
Inglewood
is
is
planning
for
their
Capital
Improvement
budget
for
the
the
subsequent
year.
So
it's
a
a
really
important
part
of
what
we
do
and
a
very
interesting
part
I.
C
I
think
I
agree
with
Colin
I
think
it
is
a
it's
basically
the
precursor
to
the
product
that
they
will
be
giving
to
us
to
review.
So
I
think
the
background
would
be
very
helpful.
Nancy
do
you
know
if
it's
going
to
be
in
person
only
or
a
combo
of
in-person
and
zoom,
or
how
the
meeting
format
is
going
to
be?
It's.
B
They're
requesting
it'd
be
like
the
regular
city
council.
Maybe
you
could
it'll
be
a
hybrid
meeting,
so
you
can
attend
in
person
or
you
can
attend
remotely
they're
just
asking.
If
we
could.
Let
them
know
ahead
of
time,
which
is
which,
because
they
would
have
to
get
a
link
from
our
it
Department.
If
you're
going
to
attend
remotely.
B
C
A
C
J
B
C
C
F
A
F
So
it
would
be
preferable
for
us
to
bring
you
know
those
additional
items
that
Brenda
that
you
had
talked
about
to
the
steering
committee
and
not
hold
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
meetings.
Those
neat
evenings,
unless
we
have
you
know
business
that
we
have
to
bring
to
you
that
way,
there's
more
time
to
discuss
as
a
steering
committee.
C
A
F
C
Well,
what
I'm
saying
is,
rather
than
every
other
week
we
have
both
of
them
together,
we
would
basically
block
out
all
Tuesdays
in
the
you
know.
One
of
the
first
Tuesday
would
be
either
the
UDC
or
P
I.
Think
pnz
always
meets
the
second
and
fourth,
so
UDC
would
be
the
first
week
plans
on
the
second
week
and
Alternate
like
that.
That's.
F
C
F
B
H
Yeah
I
think
having
again
a
few
more
meetings
to
go
through
this
UDC
in
this
imminent
future
I
think
would
be
important.
I
don't
want
to
freak
out
Tina.
We
don't
necessarily
meet
every
week
unless,
as
Ryan
noted
there's
something
to
vote
on
even
every
two
weeks
we
haven't
had
a
meeting
for
a
while.
So
you
know
I
feel
like
we're.
Do
a
few
meetings
here
and
if
it
helps
us
to
get
through
some
stuff,
I'd
be
happy
to
again
commit
a
couple
more
evenings,
especially
when
you
know
we
do
it
remotely.
H
B
J
Well,
the
only
possible
problems
I
see
without
is
one
these
last
couple
of
months,
I
felt
like
we
were
held
hostage
by
UDC
like
we
were
not
going
to
have
any
meetings
until
UDC
was
read
and
I
kind
of
had
to
push
for
this
pnz
meeting,
which
gratefully
got
us.
The
previous
UDC
meeting
or
other
things
I'm
sure
contributed
to
that,
like
the
public
sediment
right
now
expressed.
So
so
that's
I,
wouldn't
mind
I
think
we
should
block
out
two
hours
in
a
night,
but
there.
J
The
second
problem
is
that
on
the
city
web
page
of
under
boards
and
commissions
is
the
public
expectation
that
P
and
Z
is
meeting
at
least
once
a
month,
and
it
actually
says
you
know
I
think
second
and
fourth
Tuesdays-
that
we
meet
twice
a
month.
So
what
I'd
rather
do
is
call
them
pnz
meetings
and
meet
for
two
hours,
and
only
because
we
should
have
a
meeting
even
if
UTC
is
not
ready,
because
that
way,
p
and
Z
can
say.
J
Oh
UDC
has
some
more
refinements
to
do,
but
hey
what
are
your
thoughts
on
the
bike
paths?
What
are
your
thoughts
on
this
new
there's?
No
reason
why
we
can
get
together
and
discuss
stuff,
that's
kind
of
what
I
tried
to
do
in
an
email,
but
because,
if
we're
not
going
to
meet,
we
need
to
communicate
somehow.
J
I
B
C
H
I
C
B
I
want
to
Circle
back
to
Colin's
question
for
two
things:
we
can
check
with
Vicki
or
a
City
attorney
to
see.
If
it's
a
requirement,
Council
does
have
a
requirement
to
meet
twice
a
month.
I'm,
not
sure
what
Planning
Commission
does
but
I
want
her
to
weigh
in
that,
and
we'll
definitely
have
to
ask
her
if
we
can,
because
that
would
be
conducting
business
asking
the
steering
committee
meeting
or
steering
committee
what
time
they
want
to
meet
so
I
would
want
to
make
sure
I.
B
F
No
just
at
the
the
pnz
bylaws
provide
the
ability
to
cancel
those
meetings.
If
there's
no
business
items
there's
three
reasons
to
cancel
a
regular
session
meeting,
it's
one
is
determined
that
a
quorum
will
not
be
present
to
no
subjects
are
scheduled
for
the
agenda
or
three
other
other
reasonable
circumstances.
So
the
bylaws
do
provide
the
ability
to
cancel
those
meetings.
E
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
I
would
actually
disagree
that
we
should
have
more
discussion.
Preliminary
discussion
during
pnz,
mainly
because
the
universe,
the
steering
committee
meetings
are
more
open.
More
people
are
are
able
to
participate
as
a
Committee
Member
and
we
can
have
open
conversation,
whereas
we
can't
have
that
same
open
conversation
in
in
this
format.
E
So
I
think
we
have
the
opportunity
for
for
more
engagement
through
the
steering
committee
process
and
to
go
deeper
into
some
discussions
before
we
get
into
a
more
formal,
pnz,
structured
meeting
and
there's
there's
the
P,
the
sorry
steering
committee
meetings.
It
can
be
three
or
more
planning
Commissioners,
so
my
I
would
say
to
go
by
Brian's
recommendation
that
we
make
our
steering
commuting
committee
meetings
longer
and
ask
that
Planning
Commission,
more
Planning,
Commission
members
attend
those.
J
J
I,
don't
think
it
is
I
think
we
can
say
hey.
We
want
a
meeting
and
here's
what
we're
going
to
put
on
the
dissension
agenda.
We're
going
to
talk
about
chapter
one
chapter:
five,
we're
just
going
to
talk
about
it
now,
of
course,
I
wanted
of
course
discussed
at
UDC.
Also,
but,
like
I
said,
I
really
feel
like
the
city
is
holding
us
back.
J
B
H
And
I
think
more
to
the
Kate's
Point
Brenda
I
think
we
need
to
have
them
right,
but
we
need
to
have
the
full
UDC
committee.
There
at
least
have
the
option
for
them.
Whereas
in
this
meeting
they're
not
allowed
to
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
that
would
happen,
so
it
would
be
very
limited
to
only
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
members
to
be
able
to
talk
and
and
have
input.
Whereas
if
we
extended
the
UDC
meeting,
then
there
would
be
a
the
ability
for
the
rest
of
the
commission
members
to
be
involved.
C
Right,
there's,
there's
not
a
I
mean
there
is
a
public
forum,
every
meeting,
that's
open
to
the
public
and
of
course
we
have
the
official.
You
know
public
comment
on
like
a
PUD
before
us,
but
Colin's
right.
The
structure
of
things
is
that
we
can't
put
the
cart
before
the
horse
by
discussing
it.
All
here,
I
mean
we
can
but
really
the
appropriate
place
for
most
of
that
discussion.
I
think
what
you're
trying
to
discuss
Brenda
is
in
the
UDC
mem
meeting
too
so.
C
F
H
C
Opening
comment
was
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
PNC
meeting.
Is
that
yes
you're
not
required,
but
I
think
last
time,
I
think
it
was
just
Carl
and
one
other
pnz
meetings
so
not
not
very
well
attended
so,
but
otherwise
you
can
also
look
at
it
online
too.
So
I
really
shouldn't
even
say
anything
so
I.
Take
that
all
back
so
I
apologize.
B
C
C
This
is
the
longest
staff's
choice
I
think
we've
ever
had,
but
that
that's
good
we
had
to
get
these
things
off
and
handled.
Is
there
more
on
staff's
choice
or
Ryan
I
think
is
going
to
get
back
to
us
with
a
proposed
schedule,
correct
and
then
Brian
do
you
have
other
things
or
I'm,
not
maybe
not
finished,
with
Nancy?
No.
F
C
C
I
I
A
I
K
C
C
G
C
C
C
L
H
I
also
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
the
last
year,
Michelle
you've
done
a
fantastic
job,
leading
us
through
this
effort,
it's
I'm
sure
been
very
challenging,
but
hopefully
rewarding
also
also
welcomed,
Hoban
and
Tina
I
think
you
guys
are
coming
in
at
a
really
fun
time
for
the
plan.
Zoning,
as
well
as
the
UDC,
which
you
might
not
have
known
that
you
signed
up
for
as
well,
but
I
appreciate
your
your
efforts
on
that.
Just
as
a
note,
we
cannot
email
amongst
ourselves
just
discuss
things
if
you're
not
familiar
with
that.
H
I
think
I
made
that
mistake
at
least
two
times
in
my
a
couple
of
years
here.
Just
not
really
thinking
about
being
like
hey
I
want
to
get
this
idea
out.
So
just
a
word
of
warning
there,
and
then
also
you
know.
As
far
as
the
process
we
talk
about
every
once
in
a
while
I
think
we
might
consider
doing
in
person
I
think
for
now
we're
going
to
stay
with
virtual
meetings
and
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
H
Maybe,
as
the
weather
warms
up,
we
can
all
get
together
at
least
a
few
times
to
have
these
discussions.
A
little
more
interactively
because
sometimes
it
feels
challenging
to
be
able
to
provide
input
when
you
have
to
stop
raise
your
hand,
although
we
do
have
to
file
rules
when
we're
in
our
commission
meetings
also,
but
it
might
be
a
little
more
interactive,
endeavor,
okay,
so
thanks
Michelle
yeah.
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
all
very
much.
It's
been
fun
and
a
pleasure
to
serve
as
your
chair
and
looking
forward
to
staying
on,
Planning
and
Zoning,
with
Colin
and
Kate's
leadership
so
and
like
I,
said,
I
think
that
this
Englewood
PNG
is
right
at
the
thick
of
things
right
now,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
very
interesting
year
and
especially
to
see
so
many
Inwood
residents
really
engaged
right
now.
So
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
a
fun
ride
so
anyway.