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A
These
things
fabulous,
okay,
so
happy
New,
Year,
Everybody,
really
nice
to
see
all
of
you
this
year
in
2023,
I
was
saying
before
that
we
have
some
real
sort
of
small
business,
Superstars
I'm,
focusing
on
small
business
this
evening.
We'll
talk
on
about
everything
as
well
other
you
know,
city,
city
items
and
first
award
items,
but
we
do
have
some
small
business
Superstars.
We
have
Nina
Barrett,
who
we'll
talk
about
the
future
of
bookends
in
beginning
this
evening,
and
her
move
and
her
new
beginnings.
A
We
also
have
John
pottinger
should
be
on
from
Al's
Deli
they're
like
family
to
me.
I
grew
up
down
the
street
and
used
to
go
to
Al's
Deli
when
I
was
very
little
and
buy
their
Penny
candy
out
of
their
class
case.
It
was
magical,
so
they're
gonna
be
coming
also
and
I
just
want
to
say.
Both
of
them
have
had
I'm
not
trying
to
promote
this,
but
they
both
have
had
gofundme's,
which
have
been
really
impressive
to
me
in
in
the
the
real
strong
community.
A
Support
for
those
gofundme's
to
me
just
reflects
how
much
these
businesses
these
Legacy
businesses
represent
more
than
just
the
product
that
you
go
in
there
to
buy
they're
really
institutions,
I,
think
cultural
institutions
for
Evanston
and
really
mean
so
much
for
our
identity
and
our
sense
of
community
I.
Think
just
you
know
that
strong
response
to
those
GoFundMe
tells
us
that
that
they're,
more
than
just
a
place
to
go
and
buy
a
product.
So
that's
been
really
exciting.
A
We'll
also
have
one
of
our
preservation.
Commissioners
discussed
the
discuss
both
the
Legacy
business
working
group,
which
we're
very
excited
about
some
steps
that
we're
taking
moving
forward
to
support
some
of
our
Legacy
businesses,
and
if
you
can
miss
Connolly,
if
you
could
put
the
agenda
in
the
chat
box,
that
would
be
great,
so
I
won't
and
by
the
way
for
Public
Safety,
we
decided
I
spoke
with
officer
Russ.
A
We
had
a
long
talk
about
the
best
way
to
to
really
be
able
to
discuss
Public,
Safety
and
concerns
and
questions,
and
we
decided
that
we
would
do
that
at
the
in-person
meeting.
So
every
Tuesday
after
every
Ward
meeting
I'll
hold
that
in-person
meeting
over
the
summer
and
warm
months
we
sat
outside,
had
drinks
and
talked
I'm
doing
it
now
for
over
coffee.
A
This
Tuesday
at
Colectivo
Coffee
at
nine
o'clock,
so
an
officer
rust
will
be
with
me
then
to
discuss
questions,
concerns
and
updates
on
Public
Safety
there.
So
I
hope
you
can
join
me
there
too,
and
have
a
cup
of
coffee
at
Colectivo.
A
So
before
we
let's
see
Miss
Kylie
can
you
tell
me
is:
do
we
have
of
our
guests?
I
also
will
have
Jeanette
Sturgis
from
Evanston
Public
Library.
A
She
let
me
know
that
she
could
jump
on
to
address,
to
to
discuss
some
of
the
really
wonderful
initiatives
at
the
library
as
well
as
answer
questions.
I
know,
it
was
recently
in
the
news
and
I
know
they're
working
very
hard
to
really
create
an
inviting
safe,
welcoming
space
there.
A
So
Jeanette
Sturgis
will
be
with
us
also
this
evening.
Let's
see
okay,
so
it's
in
the
chat
box.
Now
the
the
agenda.
Okay
and,
as
you
all
know,
I
keep
I
like
to
have
a
pretty
open
Flow.
This
meeting
is
for
you
all.
So
if
there
are
questions
or
concerns,
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
and
jump
in
I,
don't
expect
everybody
to
sit
and
wait
until
the
very
end
of
the
meeting
to
speak
or
ask
questions
so
at
any
moment,
please
jump
in.
A
We
will
talk
about
the
proposed
high-rise
on
Chicago,
Avenue
and
other
issues.
I
kind
of
I
put
those
all
sort
of
at
the
end,
a
bunch
of
the
Northwestern
finances,
Fleetwood,
jourdain
and
other
city-wide
topics.
So
we
will
also
discuss
that
I
just
want
to
point
out
a
few
things
from
2022
that
I
feel
very
happy
and
proud
about
that
our
council
did
and
my
top
what
I
feel
most
happy
about
is
our
pension
that
we
that
we
finally
fully
funded
our
Public
Safety
pensions.
A
That
was
really
historical
and
I.
Don't
know
some
of
you
may
have
attended.
I
held
a
workshop
with
a
member
of
the
pen,
the
president
of
the
police
pension
board,
to
talk
about
that
and
that
really
underfunding
has
led
our
city
into
an
incredible
pension
obligation,
debt
where
we
are
spending.
A
We
have
spent
tens
of
millions
of
dollars.
Many
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
over
the
years
in
just
financing
that
debt,
because
we've
been
not
fully
funding,
we've
been
funding
at
about
90
percent
and
so
I
am
really
proud
that
we
this
year
and
I,
work
very,
very,
very
hard
on
this
that
we
move
forward
and
with
unanimous
support.
A
Our
Council
voted
to
fully
fund
our
Public
Safety
pensions
this
year,
which
means
our
debt
won't
increase
this
year
and
and
we're
going
to
vote
on
I
believe
at
our
next
finance
and
budget
committee,
a
plan
to
keep
this
moving
forward
at
the
fully
funding
every
year
with
a
plan
until
it's
paid
in
2040..
A
So
that's
very
exciting
to
me
and
very,
very
meaningful
for
our
residents.
I'm,
also
very
proud
of
the
fact
that
we
have
two
years
where
the
re
the
levy
did
not
increase.
I
came
in
and
I
was
committed
to
that,
and
that
was
also
took
a
lot
of
hard
work
and
I'm
very
happy
to
say
to
be
able
to
report
that
in
fact,
for
the
past
two
years
the
levy
remained
flat
and
did
not
and
that
that's
also
pretty
historical.
A
It's
been
many
many
years,
I
think
I
counted
20
back,
it's
been
going
up
every
single
year,
so
for
two
years
now
we've
held
flat
and
I
I
feel
this
is
very
important
because
I
think
we
all
know
that
Evenson
has
become
more
and
more
financially
difficult
to
live
here,
less
and
less
affordable.
Our
demographics
have
changed.
Our
middle
class
residents
have
moved
out.
We
see
more
and
more
now,
living
in
Skokie.
So
I'm
really
delighted
I'm
happy
to
report
that
those
are
just
a
few
items.
A
There's
many
more
that
I
could
talk
about
Legacy
business,
our
dog
beach,
that's
open,
but
I
won't
go
on
downtown,
that's
sort
of
on
on
the
other
side
of
things.
We
all
know
that
needs
serious
attention
and
that's
why
I'm
focusing
on
our
businesses
this
evening
and
I'm
working
day
in
and
day
out,
to
try
to
address
that
issue
so
of
getting
our
storefronts
filled
and
creating
a
vibrant
space
downtown.
So,
okay,
all
right!
Well,
let's
see!
Do
we
have
let's
see
709
is
Miss
Sturgis.
Are
you
on
the
call?
B
Yeah
no
problem
and
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
so
my
name
is
Jeanette
Sturgis
I
am
the
marketing
and
Communications
manager
at
the
Evanston
Public
Library.
My
cat
just
got
very
vocal,
so
she
may
be
visiting
too
sorry
in
advance.
B
So
I'm
just
here
with
a
few
updates
about
your
library,
some
things.
We've
got
some
exciting
things.
We've
got
going
on
I'm
here
to
take
your
questions
and
answer
them.
B
The
best
I
can
so
and
I'd
love
to
start
off
with
some
really
good
news
which
just
happened
this
week,
which
is
that
one
of
our
Librarians
Alicia
Madison
won
the
American
Library
Association
I
Love
My
Librarian
award,
which
is
a
huge
deal
in
the
library
World
10
Librarians
a
year
get
selected
for
this
out
of,
and
this
year
there
were
1500
nominees
patients
from
across
the
country.
B
Alicia
is
our
Innovation
and
digital
learning
manager
right
now,
our
interim
and
that
physician
and
she
can
be
seen
all
around
town
working
with
our
team.
So
she
does
amazing
work
with
Partnerships,
with
Family
Focus,
with
Evanston
Groves
teaching,
kids,
Hydroponics
teaching,
kids
coding
so
incredibly
proud
of
her.
That
we've
got
going.
The
Evanston
Public
Library
now
officially
has
a
501c3
partner,
which.
C
B
Very
big
deal
for
us
because
it
allows
us
to
take
advantage
of
even
more
opportunities
to
get
out
and
connect
in
the
community
and
grant
funding
and
many
of
those
things.
B
The
organization
is
called
the
partners
of
the
Evanston
Public
Library,
also
known
as
the
people
p-e-p-l
very
clever
I,
think
they
worked
on
that
one
a
while
they
meet
on
the
second
Monday
of
the
month
at
the
Robert
Crown
Branch
Library,
to
develop
just
ways
of
supporting
us
at
the
library
whether
that's
joining
us
at
events
or
advocating
for
the
library
or
fundraising.
So
they
are
looking
for
enthusiastic
Library
lovers
to
join.
So,
if
that's
you,
you
can
find
more
information
about
them
on
our
website.
B
So,
as
you
might
be
aware,
the
labor
market
is
just
kind
of
crazy
right
now
and
it's
a
very
highly
specialized
skill
set
for
Library
directors.
So
our
board
has
taken
a
sort
of
flipped
approach
to
how
they
are
going
about
finding
a
new
library
director
and
that
began
in
the
fall
with
a
soliciting
Community
feedback.
B
And
so
we
had,
you
may
have
seen
if
you
get
our
our
updates,
a
community
survey
that
went
out
in
both
English
and
Spanish
to
the
community
to
identify
what
characteristics
we're
looking
for
and
they
are
now
taking
that
information
with
them
as
they
solicit
the
services
of
a
search
firm,
and
the
hope
is
that
we're
going
to
find
a
really
good
fit
early
in
this
process.
That
way,
and
you
can
find
more
information
about
the
search
also
on
our
website,
we
have
a
page
dedicated
to
it
at
epl.org,
director
search.
B
It's
also
just
easy
to
find
there
so
and
then
I've
got
a
few
programs
too.
That
I
thought
might
be
of
interest
to
you
all
so
the
library
partners,
with
the
Northwestern
ameritai
organization
to
produce
free
mini
courses
for
the
community.
Earlier
this
week
we
had
two
esteemed
cardiologists
teach
a
class
called
diet,
heart
health
and
living
a
full
life
which
was
wildly
popular.
B
You
don't
have
to
go
to
the
first
one
to
go
to
the
second
one,
so
the
next
one
is
coming
up
on
Wednesday
the
25th
at
7
pm,
so
highly
recommended.
Apparently,
everybody
had
a
blast
learning
to
eat
healthy.
You
know,
so
we
also
partner
with
mental
health
professionals
across
the
community
to
bring
you
our
mental
health
is
essential
series,
and
that
is
a
conversation
that
changes
every
month
on
some
topic
of
mental
Wellness
on
Tuesday
we're
holding
a
program
called.
B
Is
it
the
winter
blues
or
is
it
sad
about
seasonal,
affective
disorder?
So
if
you
get
as
miserable
as
I
do
in
February,
when
you
haven't
seen
the
Sun
for
several
months,
that
is
an
excellent
program
that
will
be
filled
with
resources
and
ideas
for
how
to
get
through
the
home
stretch
on
winter
are
dedicated
to
the
dream.
B
Program
begins
this
Saturday,
and
this
is
a
program
that
is
really
a
space
for
families
with
young
kids
that
we're
just
very
proud
of
because
it's
really
taken
off
in
the
library
world
as
a
whole,
and
it
is
it's
a
space
for
giving
families
ways
giving
parents
the
words
to
talk
about
race
and
racism,
because
it
can
be
such
a
difficult
topic
for
some
families
to
talk
about.
B
So
this
is
a
way
of
affirming
all
skin
colors,
all
skin
tones
and
really
celebrating
all
of
the
different
cultures
that
everybody
comes
from,
and
it
is
just
a
program
that
other
libraries
have
started
to
take
notice
of
and
start
developing
across
the
country
for
curriculum
films
for
family,
their
families
to
you
and
then
finally,
we
have
starting
on
Thursday.
We
are
kicking
off
a
series
called
ageless
art,
which
is
a
series
that
is
dedicated
to
our
older
residents.
B
B
There
are
four
seats
left,
so
if
you
want
in
get
in
and
of
course,
you
can
find
all
of
that
information
at
epl.org,
you
can
also
sign
up
for
our
email
newsletters
there
and,
of
course
you
can
always
just
stop
in
at
the
library.
So
that's
a
few
of
our
highlights
of
all
the
things
that
we
have
going
on.
It's
just
the
tip
of
the
iceberg.
I
assure
you,
I
am
happy
to
take
any
questions.
B
A
Great,
thank
you.
You
are
doing
so
many
wonderful
things,
I
really
admire
you
and
all
the
work
of
the
Librarians
and
Heather
norborg
and
everybody
there.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Let
me
see.
Are
there
any
questions
here
for
Jeanette.
A
You
can
you
can
just
speak
or
raise
your
hand,
I,
don't
see
any
hands
raised
and
I
know
you're,
also
working
to
hire
a
social
worker
to
address
some
of
the
issues
recently
mentioned,
which
I'm
really
pleased
with
I'm
working
to
try
to
see
about
additional
funding.
I'd
love
to
see
even
more
hired.
B
We
would
have
really
appreciate
the
support
so
just
for
anyone
who
maybe
hasn't
seen
it
in
the
news.
We
had
an
incident
last
Monday
about
the
conflict
between
one
of
our
member
of
our
safety
team
and
a
patron
that
escalated
very
rapidly.
B
Involved
a
weapon
which,
of
course,
is
not
permitted
at
the
library.
In
any
case,
our
staff
is
not
permitted
to
use
guns
as
a
part
of
their
as
a
part
of
their
duties.
B
There's,
obviously
lots
of
things.
I
cannot
comment
on
based
on
you
know,
Personnel
matters
that
are
kind
of
ongoing,
but
I
wanted
to
affirm
for
you
that
the
library
is
working
on
addressing
Safety
and
Security
from
a
wide
variety
of
angles,
so
one
that
means
a
policy
review
for
such
as
what
I
have
just
stated,
and
perhaps
reminding
staff
that
might
not
have
understood
that
memo,
which
is
a
little
concerning,
but
also
we
are
reviewing
all
of
our
Regular
schedules
for
our
required
staff
training.
B
So
that
includes
the
library
uses,
a
curriculum
called
the
librarian's
guide
to
homelessness
which
helps
us
under
which
helps
our
Librarians
learn
to
de-escalate
conflicts
and
really
address
like
the
root
problems
of
of
conflicts
in
the
library
rather
than
allowing
things
to
escalate.
B
We
are
also
working
on
how
we
respond
more
quickly
and
effectively
in
an
emergency.
We
had
some
amazing
staff
members
that
did
the
work
of
making
sure
that
all
of
our
patrons
were
safe.
D
B
The
library-
but
we
just
know
that
we
can
continue
to
improve
on
that
and
then
we
are
as
council
member
Kelly
mentioned.
B
We
are
working
to
the
library
has
had
for
the
past
several
years
that
we've
been
at
the
Forefront
of
having
social
workers
as
staff
members
in
the
library
and
that's
been
a
partnership
historically
with
Ascension
and
they
and
the
library
has
paid
for
that
for
a
social
worker
to
come
in
and
be
fully
staffed
in
the
library
to
just
identify
to
work
with
people
of
all
kinds
to
identify
their
needs
and
and
really
address
problems
before
they
ever
become
problems.
In
the
first
place.
B
Our
contract
ended
at
the
end
of
last
year,
and
so
we
have
been
in
the
process
of
working
with
Ascension
other
Community
Partners
to
identify
ways
to
move
forward
with
that
contract
or
to
hire
social
workers
as
a
full
partner,
a
full
member
of
our
our
staff.
So
so
it's
terrible
as
that
entire
incident
is,
it
would
be
absolutely
the
worst
thing
would
be
for
us
to
not
learn
from
it
and
not
move
forward.
So
that
is
truly
what
we
are
really
focused
on.
B
Right
now,
the
library
is
a
place
where
everybody
in
Evanston
to
be
able
to
find
the
resources
that
they
want,
and
that
means
that
a
need-
and
that
means
that
it
has
to
be
a
place
where
all
everyone
feels
safe,
that
include
their
staff
and
all
of
the
patrons
there.
So
whole
bunch
of
questions
in
the
chat
looks
like
oh,
maybe
a
question:
did
we
get
one
just
one?
Oh
a
meeting
dates
for
the
people
group.
Yes,
that
one
is
very
easy.
B
That
is
the
the
second
Monday
of
the
month,
so
their
next
meeting
will
be
February,
13th
Monday
at
7,
00
pm
and
that's
at
the
Robert
Crown
branch
and
there's
usually
snacks,
so
I
would
recommend
going
to
that
meeting
for
sure
you're
welcome.
B
A
Correct,
let's
see
any
other
questions.
Thank
you.
So
much
Jeanette
really
appreciate
you
coming
on
this
evening.
Wonderful
I'm,
you
know
mostly
I
frequent,
the
downtown
library
and
just
really
love
it.
I
encourage
everyone.
If
you
haven't
been
there
in
a
while,
just
to
step
in
it's
really
inspiring
and
relaxing
and
lovely.
B
Thank
you,
I'm
also
pretty
brand
new
to
the
Evanston
Community
I've
been
here
about
a
year
now
so
I'm
gonna
hang
out
on
the
rest
of
the
meeting
and
just
kind
of
learn
more
about
some
of
the
businesses.
If
that's
cool
with
everyone
of.
C
B
I'm
gonna
turn
my
video
off,
but
yeah
I'll
be.
A
Okay,
wonderful!
Well!
Thank
you
again
for
coming
this
evening.
Thank
you
really
appreciate
it.
Okay,
why?
Don't
we
now
go
on
to
I,
see
Nina
Barrett
is
with
us
and
I.
Think
many
of
you
already
know:
Nina
Barrett,
the
owner
of
bookends
in
beginning
a
very
cherished
business
in
town
Nina.
How
are
you
you're
here,
I
think
I
did
see
you.
A
And
so
a
lot
of
cross
circuits
all
this
Zoom
activity.
Thank
you
for
coming
this
evening
and
I'm
just
really
excited
to
have
you
here
and
excited
to
hear
about
your
plans,
and
your
bookstore
has
just
meant
so
much
to
us
at
Evanston.
It's
really
been
a
center,
a
cultural
center,
an
institution
for
us
and
I'm,
so
so
happy
you're
going
to
remain
in
our
downtown
and
I.
Think
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you.
So
thank
you
for
coming
this
evening.
Sure.
E
It
takes
a
village
as
they
say,
and
so
the
first
thing
I
want
to
do
is
thank
you
Claire,
because
you
have
worked
so
hard
and
anybody
who
came
to
that
that
previous
meeting
that
we
had
that
was
just
sort
of
an
update
a
month
ago
or
whenever
that
was
I
did
thank
Claire,
but
she
worked
so
hard
to
try
to
keep
us
in
the
alley
for
a
long
time.
E
And
then,
when
that
just
didn't
work
out,
Claire
has
been
working
very
hard
on
our
behalf
to
raise
funds
for
us
and
to
smooth
our
path
to
the
new
store.
E
I,
don't
know
if
Paul
is
Paul.
Zamazak
is
on
the
call.
I
know
he's
supposed
to
he's
on
the
agenda.
I
want
to
thank
him
too,
because
he
was
super
helpful
in
getting
83
000
from
the
city
to
help
us
in
the
new
space
and
I.
E
Don't
know
if
Carl
is
here:
Carl
Klein
he's
also
on
the
agenda,
but
he
he
also
just
gave
us
a
lot
of
help
and
then
I
see
all
these
names
of
people
who
I
know
are
our
customers
and
I
know
contributed
to
our
GoFundMe
Campaign,
which
so
far
has
more
than
1200
donors
and
has
raised
as
of
tonight
very
near
to
a
hundred
and
two
thousand
dollars.
So
that
has
just
been
a
thing
of
incredible
beauty:
to
see
people
really
rallying
we're
working
in
the
space
now
and
I.
E
Don't
want
to
reveal
too
much
about
what's
going
on
in
there,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
we
because
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
really
heartbreaking
for
all
of
us
me,
but
I
know
for
so
many
other
people
who,
whose
relationship
to
our
old
space
went
back
to
bookman's
Alley,
and
it's
been
really
heartbreaking
for
a
lot
of
people
that
there
isn't
going
to
be
a
bookstore
in
there
anymore,
and
a
lot
of
people
are
very
attached
to
that
space
that
some
people
might
call
shabby.
E
But
we,
you
know,
it
always
had
a
bookstore
that
made
it
magical
and
I.
It
was
it.
It
was
of
primary
concern
to
me
moving
to
a
new
plain,
vanilla,
box,
kind
of
space
that
it'd
still
be
magical,
and
but
we
we
haven't
tried
to
replicate.
What's
in
the
alley,
we've
we've
thought
of
other
ways
to
make
it
magical.
E
As
we
wind
up,
we
are
going
to
have
an
event
next
Wednesday
night
called
last
call
in
the
alley.
That
is
a
two-hour
event,
that
is,
for
people
who
just
want
to
come
and
say
goodbye,
we're
gonna,
you
know,
make
some
toasts
to
everything
that
it's
been
over
the
years.
E
We,
you
can
find
that
event
on
our
website,
it's
free,
but
you
need
to
register
because
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
accommodate
everybody
who
wants
to
come
and
then
our
last
day
of
business
is
going
to
be
January.
20
eighth
I
believe
is
this
Saturday
that
will
just
have
a
regular
business
day.
E
Then
we're
going
to
close
our
doors
and
that's
it,
and
then
we
hope
to
reopen
in
the
new
store
around
February
9th
it's
a
little
bit
iffy
because
we're
waiting
for
our
fixtures
to
arrive
and
they
haven't
come
yet
and
until
they
come,
we
can't
unpack
all
the
boxes.
E
E
So
that's
we'll
we'll
be
inviting
those
1200
people
and
My
Little
scoop
that
I'm
just
telling
you
tonight,
because
we
just
figured
this
out
but
we're
getting
special
little
badges
that
you
can
have.
If
you
were
a
GoFundMe
donor
and
you
helped
us
move
the
alley.
So
those
people
when
you
come
to
that
event,
you'll
be
able
to
get
your
little
badge.
That
says:
I
helped
save
bookends
and
beginnings
and
that's
all
I
mean
I.
E
We're
just
gonna
hope
that
it's
a
smooth
transition
everybody's
been
trying
to
make
it
smooth
for
us,
and
so
you
know
we're
we're
just
going
to
move
on
to
a
new
chapter.
E
Yeah,
so
it's
gonna
be
from
6
to
8
P.M,
but
we're
doing
it
in
like
two
separate
sittings
so
that
we
can
kind
of
control
the
flow
of
traffic.
So
you
either
have
to
sign
up
for
the
six
to
seven
PM
slot
or
the
seven
to
eight
slot.
A
Okay
and
that's
all
through
the
website,
which
is
on
there,
I'll
put
the
link
on
there-
okay,
great
so
Wednesday
the
25th
yeah
next
Wednesday.
Wonderful,
what
we're
really
looking
forward
to
that-
and
this
is
exciting,
I-
think
it's
a
new
beginning
and
I
know
it's
going
to
be
wonderful
and
I've
been.
You
know,
like
Nina.
We
know
that
that
space
in
the
alley
was
a
magical
space,
and
so
much
of
the
bookstore
is
not
only,
of
course,
the
items
and
the
books
that
Nina
sells.
A
But
it's
that
beautiful,
warm
inviting
space
that
Nina
created
and
so
I
want
to
do.
Everything.
I
can
and
thank
you
to
everybody
who
has
supported
Nina
in
making
sure
that
she
can
also
open
that
sort
of
a
space
that
pulls
you
in.
A
That
invites
you
in
over
on
Orrington,
Avenue
and
so
I
am
still
I've
been
working
with
Consulting
and
talking
with
people
Across
the
Nation
about
funding
and
ways
to
I'm,
hoping
that
we
will
have
a
fun
set
up
very
soon
to
support
our
Legacy
businesses,
as
well
as
our
small
businesses
throughout
Evanston.
A
It's
just
such
an
important
part
of
our
town.
It's
you
know
it's
about
the
quality
of
living
and
again
I.
Think
like
Nina's
year
go
fund
me
wow,
like
I,
knocked
it
out
of
the
ballpark
so
impressive
again
that
just
speaks
to
how
much
we
care
about
that
your
business
and
what
it
means
to
us
as
a
place
in
our
downtown.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
hanging
in
there
and
you
know
hanging
in
with
the
struggle
till
you
know
to
move
forward,
and
we
appreciate
it
because
you,
it's
really
you're,
really
a
huge
asset
to
our.
E
City,
so
thank
interview,
I
and
I
just
want
to
quickly
mention.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
are.
We
still
are
working
on
and
you
know
we
do
need
the
extra
funding
for
is.
You
know
we
also
really
want
the
outside
and
the
street
outside
the
store
to
be.
You
know
they
talk
about
activating
the
street,
and
there
are
you
know
some
issues
with
that
right
now
in
downtown
Evanston
of
the
sidewalks
being
empty
and
the
we
all
know
that
a
lot
of
the
storefronts
are
empty.
E
We
really
are
want
to
design
a
sort
of
outside
space
where
our
we
can
put
used
books
out
there
in
a
sort
of
permanent
cases
and
flower
boxes
and
it'll
be
pretty,
but
it
will
also
be
an
outside
installation
that
will
invite
people
walking
down
the
street
to
stop
and
browse
and
sit,
and
you
know
and
and
make
make
our
streets
peopled
again.
A
Wonderful,
that's
great
and
I
know
your
neighbors
you're
to
be
neighbors.
I
had
dinner
at
in
a
corn
last
night
with
my
son
and
his
girlfriend,
and
they
they
said
they
might
drop
in
tonight.
But
I
haven't
seen
from
I,
don't
know
if
Sammy
from
the
corners
there,
but
they
are
so
excited.
Also
about
your
your
move.
So
we
have
a
question
from
Candy.
E
Yeah,
so
the
main
reason
we
took
that
space
in
the
first
place
is
it
became
available
at
the
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
pandemic.
Actually,
and
we
we
wanted
basically
some
kind
of
foothold
out
on
the
street
because
back
in
the
alley
was
magical
for
everybody
who
discovered
that
we
were
down
the
alley,
but
we
really
were
missing
all
of
the
foot
traffic.
You
know
all
the
visiting
the
for
the
football
games
and
the
reunions
and
all
of
that
street
traffic.
E
Most
people
who
didn't
already
know
we
were
there
would
not
come
down
that
alley,
and
so
we
really
took
that
space.
It
was
inconvenient
to
have
two
separate
stores.
It
was
inconvenient
for
us
because
we
had
this
staff
them.
It
was
inconvenient
for
customers,
because
if
you
were
in
the
alley
store-
and
you
just
wanted
a
greeting
card-
you
had
to
make
a
separate
trip
and
you
know
whatever.
E
So
it
wasn't
in
a
lot
of
ways.
It
was
very
inconvenient,
but
we,
it
was
really
valuable
to
us
to
just
have
a
tiny
little
bit
of
real
estate
on
Sherman
Avenue.
Now
so
now
we
will
be
able
to
bring
both
of
those
things
back
together,
as
they
were
originally
and
I.
Think
it'll
make
it
much
more
convenient
for
Shoppers
and,
of
course,
we're
going
to
have
that
gorgeous
visibility
in
the
big
windows
and
a
you
know
much
more
prominent
location.
So
we
don't
do
separate
stores
anymore
really.
Thank.
A
C
Yeah
sure
I
would
I
knew
him.
He
was
there
when
it
was
bookman's
alley.
I,
don't
know.
Obviously
there
30
years
or
so
he
was
an
amazing
guy
and
the
bookstore
was
the
most
unique
bookstore
I
was
ever
in
before
in
my
life
and
yeah
I
think
he
deserves
a
shout
out,
because
if
it
weren't
for
him
there
would
be
no
bookends
and
Beginnings.
He
was
an
interesting
character.
That's
for
sure,
thanks
for
the
time
yeah.
A
Thank
you
absolutely
a
lot
of
creativity
and
innovation
in
that
history.
Wonderful
and
there's
a
question
also
here.
Thank
you,
Bernard
for
asking
that
Bernard
Riley
about
tax
benefits,
encouraging
commercial
property
owners.
So
there
is
some
and
I'm
not
going
to
get
it
exactly
right,
but
there
are
some
vacancy
credits
that
you
can
get,
but
it
used
to
be.
You
could
get
them
for
much
longer,
I!
Think
now,
under
Fritz
cagey,
it's
limited
to
two
years,
so
that's
better!
A
In
other
words,
you
can't
get
quite
the
same
breaks
for
vacancy
that
you
could
get
in
the
past,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
measures
that
a
lot
of
cities
take
and
believe
me
I'm
working
hard
at
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
can
do
to
encourage
filling
those
empty
storage
spaces
and
to
discourage
leaving
them
empty.
A
So
there
are
things
some
cities
do:
impose
fees
or
fines
or
taxes
if
it's,
if
storefronts
are
left
open
for
so
long
there's
a
lot
of
mission,
there's
also
incentives,
so
you
can
there's
a
lot
of
possibilities,
so
I
think
I'm
meeting
tomorrow
with
city
manager,
Stowe
and
Paul
zamisak,
to
discuss
this
and
to
try
to
move
forward
with,
with
with
measures
that
we
can
do
right
now
with
the
city
to
help
protect
our
businesses
and
allow
businesses
to
expand
and
to
fill
those
empty
store
spaces.
That's
and
Bernie.
A
G
I,
my
understanding,
though,
is
that
there
are
incentives
in
the
tax
code
or
in
the
tax
treatment
of
commercial
property
owners
that
have
been
leading
to
some
of
these
exorbitant
increases
in
in
rents
that
have
really
emptied
out.
A
lot
of
the
storefronts
and
the
restaurants
in
Evanston
is
and
is.
Is
that
what
you
mentioned
was
that
just
the
vacancy
credits
or.
A
A
Now
it's
about
buying
and
jacking
rents
up-
and
this
is
a
phenomenon-
that's
going
on
again
Across
the
Nation
and
really
harming
small
businesses-
also
tenants
so
but
I'll
look
into
that
to
see
like
I
I
haven't
heard
that
but
I'll
certainly
check
into
that
and
and
circle
back
to
you
Bernie
on
that
if
there
are
incentives,
actual
tax
incentives
for
raising
rents.
H
Hi
Kelly,
yes,
I
have
a
couple
questions
I'm
in
German,
okay,
I
know
what
is
taking
over
Clouts
spot,
overclocking
or
clocks
went
out
the
the
breakfast
place
and.
A
Oh
I
know
I,
that's
just
I
know
I
feel
terrible
about
that.
Speaking
of
Legacy
businesses,
that's
one
of
our
oldest
Clarks
Clarks.
A
Yeah
I
know
I
and
hopefully,
when
Paul
zamazak
gets
on
he's
going
to
be
on
in
the
later
part
of
the
evening.
He
maybe
he'll
have
some
information
or
Annie
Coakley
who's
going
to
join
us.
Also
this
evening
they
can
speak
to
that.
I
don't
know,
but
it's
just
I
hope
they'll
come
to
our
Legacy
business
meeting
and
talk,
so
we
can
hear
about
it
and
hear
because
we're
really
here
and
I
know
we
just
got
started
the
Legacy
Business
program
recently.
A
But
if
you
ever
hear
of
small
businesses
struggling,
we
have
already
we're,
starting
already
with
several
measures
to
help
support
our
small,
our
Legacy
businesses.
So
we
want
to
hear
from
them
before
they
get
to
that
point
of
closing.
A
Okay,
I,
don't
know
about
that.
I
do
know
that
we
do
have
a
Mexican
Cuisine
coming
in
where
stained
glass
used
to
be
I
know.
That's
because
it's
first
war
but
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
one
I
think
that
would
be
in
the
second
ward.
H
I
Heard
crumble
is
coming
to
downtown.
A
cookie
place
is
coming
to
downtown
I.
A
Don't
know
but
I
will
be
sure
to
ask
Miss
Coakley
or
Mr
zalmasak,
so
thank
you
for
bringing
up.
I
wrote
it
down.
Thank
you,
I
appreciate
it.
Okay!
Well,
thank
you,
Nina
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
how
bookends
and
Beginnings
evolves
and
and
grows
and
I
know
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
fun
and
wonderful.
I
have
and
magical.
A
So
thank
you
so
I
see
we
also
we
have
with
us
now.
Let's
go
ahead
with
our
other
Legacy
wonderful,
small
business.
I
think
I
saw
John
pottinger
in
Al's
Deli
working
a
minute
ago.
A
I
A
Are
absolutely
just
just
caught
our
chinoy
street
to
Evanston
for
Northwestern
students
for
everybody
we
all
just
adore
your
European
deli
style
and
and
and
the
Ambiance
and
the
food,
and
the
amazing,
sandwiches
and
soup
and
cookies
so
anyway,
without
further
Ado.
This
is
John
pottinger
I'm,
one
of
the
owners
of
Al's
Deli.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
I
Sure
so
yeah
our
situation
with
a
cold,
but
this
has
hurt
us
and
we're
a
couple
of
old
guys,
and
so
we
feel
that
there
should
still
be
a
mass
mandate
and-
and
we
don't
do
indoor
dining
either,
and
that
is
that
has
hurt
us
and
the
winter
season
is
our
slower
time.
So
we
did
get
in
trouble.
We
didn't
pay
November,
rent
or
December
and
come
the
27th
of
December.
I
We
realized
that
there
was
no
way
we're
gonna
make
it,
and
so
we
did
the
GoFundMe
and
the
response
was
really
really
good.
We
can't
match
the
bookstore
there's
some
impressive
figures
there,
but
for
Alice
Kelly
was
really
good.
We
raised
about
17
000
in
the
two
weeks
and
over
about
280
people
contributed
and
that
paid
for
November,
December
and
January,
rent
and
plus.
I
Now
we
have
a
cushion
that
we
have
the
equivalent
of
another
three
months,
rent
in
the
GoFundMe
account,
so
that's
helped
a
lot
and
the
publicity
around
it
is
generated
more
business
also,
but
you
know
other
than
that.
It's
just
the
you
know
with
politicians
saying
the
pandemic
is
over
and
people
being
against
mass
and
things
like
that.
That
makes
it
a
little
hard.
I
You
get
the
occasional
confrontation
over
the
masks
and
one
person
threw
a
mask
at
me
and
and
the
biggest
guy
I
ever
saw
came
to
the
door
on
the
day
before
the
Mandate
ended
for
mass,
and
he
just
looked
at
the
sign
and
took
a
photograph
of
it
put
it
on
social
media.
Then
he
goes
around
a
little
bit,
so
I
can
get
direct
eye
contact
with
him
and
then
he
spits
at
me.
Oh.
F
I
I
So,
with
no
inner
dining,
that's
a
whole
number
of
people
who
don't
come
nearly
as
often
and
things
like
that,
we
you
know
by
the
weather,
we
do
some
outdoor
dining
so
well,
that's
basically
the
way
things
are
very
happy
with
the
response
for
this
GoFundMe.
It's
been
amazing,
I'm,
not
sure
what
else
anybody
wants
to
know.
Yeah.
A
So
can
you
tell
us
John
so
when
did
Al's
Deli
open?
Oh.
I
Well,
1949
1949.
yeah,
my
father
started
it
then
my
uncle
worked
for
a
short
time
and
but
he
died
in
the
70s.
My
dad
died
in
92
and
then
Bob
and
I
have
been
here
for
a
long
time.
I
Bob
started
in
1971
and
I
went
full
time
in
1979,
and
you
know
if
you
come
in,
you
can
see
a
lot
of
fixtures
that
not
only
date
from
1949
but
actually
came
with
the
store
when
my
father
bought
it
in
1949,
and
let's
just
see
this
so
get
it
in
a
picture
here
see
that
scale
there
I
can
barely
get
it
in
in
case
that
came
at
the
store,
and
if
you
could
look
closely,
you
see
that
it
only
goes
to
a
dollar
25
per
pound
because
of
from
1932.
I
We
once
had
a
shop
in
the
back
room
that
we
took
down
and
underneath
the
shelving
paper.
There
was
a
paper
from
1932
with
a
little
headline,
saying:
Dizzy
Dean
signs
with
the
cards,
and
then
this
cooler
you
can
see
behind
me
is
also
from
1932..
It's
made
of
salad
Oak.
Even
the
shelves
inside
are
solid
oak
and
so
I
mean
there's
numerous
things
like
that:
we're
a
very
mid
20th
century
sort
of
place.
I
So
even
but
we
wrap
our
sandwiches
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
see
that
no,
whatever
anybody
any
case
is
paper
that
nowadays
has
to
be
made,
especially
for
us
believe
it
or
not.
Everybody
puts
things
in
plastic,
but
this
is
a
called
a
baker's
paper
that
we
have
this
special
order.
J
I
You
can
barely
see
it
any
case.
It
has
a
slot
for
pennies
nickels,
dimes
quarters,
half
dollars
in
silver
dollars,
a
slot
for
singles
fives
and
tens,
but
there's
no
slap
for
a
twenty
dollar
bill
back
in
the
1932
when
it
was
bought.
I
Apparently,
ambition
stopped
short
of
a
20
bill
and
I
was
watching
LA
Confidential
the
movie
a
long
time
ago
and
in
that
movie,
there's
a
scene
in
a
diner
where
there's
a
robbery
and
a
massacre
and
they
robbers
leave
the
cast
drawer
open
and
they
and
the
one
in
that
movie
is
exactly
the
same
as
the
one
we
have
for
a
long
time
to
say
what
could
my
father
be
thinking
that
getting
a
cash
register
that
couldn't
accommodate
a
20
bill,
but
it
apparently
it
was
a
thing
in
the
30s.
A
John,
there's
a
there's,
a
quam,
someone
coveted
having
its
in
have
rent
increases,
also
affected
your
you.
I
Unlike
a
lot
of
people,
the
landlord
that
we
have
now
we've
had
about
three
over
the
course
of
the
74
years,
but
our
present
landlord
was
a
really
nice
guy.
During
the
covet
he
reduced
the
rent
substantially
and
there's
been
very
lacks.
As
I
said
at
the
beginning,
we
as
a
one
on
December
27th.
We
were
two
months
behind
at
that
point.
He
hadn't
even
made
a
telephone
call
to
us,
so
he's
a
real
nice
guy.
I
I
A
Thanks
for
letting
me
know,
I
will
say
it
is
Fifth
Ward,
but
it
still
feels
like
the
neighborhood
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
I
really
care
tremendously
about
all
the
the
whole
noise.
Well,
all
of
evidence
done,
but
thank
you
John.
What
are
some
of
your?
What
are
some
of
the
most
popular
sandwiches
or
soups
or.
I
I
Thank
you
and
the
smoked
salmon
and
Brie
sandwich
is
another
good
one.
We
have
a
roast
beef
on
a
croissant
with
bearnaise
sauce
and
soups.
We've
got
quite
a
lot
of
different
ones.
Amongst
the
most
popular
are
the
onion
soup,
the
not
mushroom
and
wild
rice
soup,
the
leaking
potato
soup
and
the
students
especially
seem
to
go
for
the
cream
of
cream
of
tomato
soup
and
then
our
most
probably
well-known
thing
is
our
butter
cookie
with
a
buttercream
frosting.
A
A
It's
like
stepping
back
in
time.
It's
beautiful
and
the
food's
wonderful
and
it's
real.
It's
the
it's
the
real
thing.
It's
authentic!
Oh
question
is
delivery
available.
I
No
I'm
afraid
not
even
those
delivery
services
have
spurned
us
afraid,
those
through
our
hubs
and
Uber's
Things
Are
pretty
much
restaurant
parasites.
They
can
take.
You
know
33
percent
of
the
sale
or
even
higher
percentages
of
it.
Restaurants
do
it
because
they
feel
they
have
to
compete
with
other
restaurants,
but
we
have
abstained.
So
no
everything's
in
person.
A
I
Oh
no
I'm
afraid
that
I
should
explore
that,
but
not
at
the
moment.
No.
A
Okay,
great
well,
thank
you
so
much
I'm
delighted
that
the
GoFundMe
was
successful
and
again
I'm
working
hard
to
see
have
the
see
if
we
can
develop
a
program
within
the
city
to
support
our
our
businesses
that
we
all
our
cherished
businesses,
small
businesses
and
Al's
Deli
and
bookends
and
Beginnings
certainly
are
two
of
those.
A
Okay,
all
right
so
I
see
we
have
and
please
feel
free
to
chime
in
or
ask
questions
at
any
time.
I
love
hearing
from
you
all.
We
have
with
us
our
pres,
a
preservation
commissioner
Carl
Klein,
and
he
welcome
Carl.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
A
Carl
is
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
Legacy
Business
program
and
as
well
about
since
he's
all
he
is
a
commissioner
about
the
the
commission
recently
developed
a
long-range
plan.
I
might
not
be
saying
that
right.
So
thank
you
and
welcome.
K
Great,
thank
you.
So,
yes,
the
Legacy
business
program
was
voted
by
the
economic
development
committee
on
the
city,
and
so
they
established
a
legacy,
business
working
group
and
so
that
working
group
consists
of
two
people
from
the
preservation
commission,
and
so
that
would
be
me
and
the
previous
chair
for
last
year,
Susie
Reinhold
and
two
two
council,
members,
council,
member
Kelly
and
council
member
Wynn,
and
then
the
preservation,
planner
Kade
Sterling
and
the
economic
development,
Paul
zamozak.
K
And
so
what
we've
done
over
the
last
few
months
is
we've
kind
of
been
trying
to
establish
criteria
for
the
the
program
and
some
of
the
basic.
You
know
like
trying
to
figure
out
what
it
would
be
like
in
Evanston,
because
there
have
been
Legacy
business
programs
around
the
country.
The
first
was
in
San
Francisco,
others
are
in
San
Antonio
and
then
there
are
a
few
others
sprinkled
throughout
the
country.
But
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
more
fit
to
Evanston
and
the
working
group
then
helped
draft.
K
And
then
the
city
issued
an
RFP
seeking
a
proposal
from
establish,
experienced
firms
for
graphic
design
and
they
asking
them
to
develop
a
logo,
design
and
a
website
for
this
new
program,
and
so
the
the
city
just
finished.
The
RFP
process
and
I
think
they're
going
to
be
sending
to
the
city
council
shortly
their
recommendation
for
a
firm
to
design
a
logo
and
website
for
the
program,
and
that
was
and
then
when,
hopefully
that
gets
when
that
gets
approved.
We
we
can
then
officially
launch
the
program.
K
The
working
group
has
us,
has
a
32
group,
32
businesses
that
are
in
the
pilot
group,
that
kind
of
act
as
a
steering
committee
of
the
working
group
to
help
you
know
weigh
in
give
some
input
about
what
they
they
see.
The
program
should
do
and
I
don't
know
it's
exciting
to
have
this
Legacy
Business
program
in
the
city,
and
we
should
be
celebrating
all
these
wonderful,
cherished
long-standing
businesses
in
our
city.
You
know,
I
mean
it's
something.
K
It's
amazing
remarkable
if
a
business
can
last
20
years,
but
we
have
numerous
businesses
in
the
city
that
have
been
around
for
50
60
100
years.
You
know
and
we
should
be
celebrating
that
and
we
should
be
honoring
them
and
then
oh
and
then
moving
forward
I
mean
after
the
launch
there
would.
The
working
group
is
going
to
be
working
on
developing
an
incentive
types
of
incentives
for
businesses.
Now
not
every
business
May
apply.
K
I
guess
will
be
eligible
to
apply,
but
like
say
if
a
Legacy
Legacy
business
is
in
a
can
have
a
demonstrated
threat.
You
know
due
to
raising
increa
rent
increase
or
development
pressure.
They
could
possibly
apply
for
a
grant
and
then,
let's
see
the
so
recently
in
December
of
last
year,
so
2022,
the
preservation
commission
adopted
a
long-range
work
plan
and
it's
called
The
Preserve
2040
preservation,
commission
long
range
plan,
and
so
essentially
this
was
a
long
time
coming.
K
K
That
are,
you
know,
short-term
and
long-term,
and
it
acts
as
the
commission's
principal
policy
document
regarding
identification,
documentation
and
stewardship
of
evanston's,
significant
Heritage
resources,
and
it
also
acts
as
a
guide
of
oversight
and
administration
of
the
community's
preservation
program.
And
it's
also
important
to
know
that
to
to
note
that
this
isn't
just
going
to
be
the
preservation
commission.
K
Hopefully
other
organizations
like
the
History
Center
Shore
front
will
participate
and
you
know
kind
of
reinvigorate
a
preservation
ethic
in
the
city
and
and
try
to
educate
people
too
about
you
know
all
the
wonderful
things
that
preservation
can
do.
It
can
become
an
economic
engine.
You
know
if
we
reuse
our
buildings
instead
of
demolishing
them
and
sending
them
to
the
the
landfill.
So
you
know,
one
of
the
goals
is
to
potentially
enact
a
deconstruction
ordinance
in
the
city.
K
So
any
building
that
would
be
demolished
instead
of
being
demolished,
it
would
be
deconstructed
and
so
in
deconstruction
it
you
actually
take
have
to
take
more
time
and
effort
to
you
know,
take
take
away
each
of
the
the
materials
in
the
building,
and
so
that
then
becomes
you
know
it
not
only
provides
jobs
in
job
training,
but
it
also
provides
quality
materials
at
a
lower
rate
for
people.
K
You
know
that
could
potentially
go
into
affordable
housing
or
other
things,
and
so
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
main
main
things
that
Commissioners
wanted
was
a
plan
that
could
then
tie
into
other
plans.
The
city
had
so
like
the
climate
action,
resiliency
plan
or
the
affordable
housing,
or
you
name
it.
So
you
know
those
are
just
two
quick
updates.
If
anyone
has
questions
or
comments.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Carl
and
thank
you
for
all
your
wonderful
work
on
both
the
commission
and
the
Legacy
business
group
I
think
it's
been
very
exciting
for
a
lot
of
people
and
it's
a
lot
of
fun
to
think
about
I.
Think
Carl.
Is
it
right
that
there's
well
over
200
that
have
been
we've
identified
now
so
20
years?
Is
we
decided
looking
at
other
right
that
we
said
it
at
20
years
and.
K
Right
so
so
to
become
eligible,
it
would
have
to
be
at
least
20
years
old,
and
you
have
to
demonstrate
that
you've
been
a
significant.
You
know,
part
of
Evanston
and
right.
K
So
we
I
mean
this
wasn't
a
very
comprehensive
survey
to
figure
out
the
businesses,
but
we
did
figure
discovered
that
there
are
about
200,
maybe
even
more
businesses
that
are
at
least
20
years
old
and
the
significant
portion
of
them
are
over
50
years
old,
and
the
other
thing
to
note
is
that
they
are
diverse
in
types
of
Business
location,
types
of
ownership,
so
some
own
their
buildings,
some
rent.
K
You
know
you
have
everything
from
jewelry
service
stations,
Chocolate
Chicken,
you
know
everything.
You
know
you
can
think
of
rugs,
monastician
rugs
being
one
of
the
oldest
rug
companies
in
the
city,
I
mean
I
could
just
go.
We
could
all
go
on
for
days
about
all
the
wonderful
businesses
we
have
in
the
city.
A
Yeah,
it's
Plumbing,
Cahill,
Plumbing,
absolutely
yeah,
it's
really
fun.
It's
really
you're
always
welcome.
We
meet,
we
were
meeting
every
other
week.
I
think
we're
now
down
to
once
a
month.
Is
that
right,
Carl
I,
think
I
mean
once
a
month
now
and
those
should
be
posted
on
the
City
calendar
anybody's
welcome
to
come.
Sometimes
we
have
it's
a
lot
of
fun
when
we
have
our
Legacy
business
owners,
show
up
and
and
and
participate
and
give
advice,
and
it's
just
it's
a
very,
very
colorful
and.
K
So
I
think
I
just
noticed
a
question
in
the
in
the
chat.
No,
it
does
not
have
to
be
the
same
owner.
K
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
discussed
in
the
working
group
was
if
a
business
has
maintained
the
same
type
of
you
know.
The
same
type
of
business
has
been
there
in
the
same
location
for
a
long
time.
For
example,
like
bookends
and
Beginnings
started
out
as
Bookmans
alley
then
became
bookends
and
Beginnings.
It
was
the
same
bookstore
kind
of
concept,
so
that
I
mean
we're.
Considering
that
to
be
that
and
then
also
I,
don't
think
that
we're
making
it
a
requirement
that
it
has
always
been
the
same
owner
right.
A
Right,
no,
absolutely
so,
for
example,
book
ends
in
beginning
that
that's
carried
on
from
the
bookstore
puts
bookends
in
beginning
as
a
qual
to
be
as
a
legacy
business
or
like
Turin
bike
store
that
you
know
it's
been
bikes
there
for
a
very
long
time.
It
was
turned
Wheel
and
Sprocket
I
think
so,
yes,
with
a
similar
venue,
a
similar
culture
carry
carrying
that
on
so
yeah.
So
it's
very
exciting
and
and
we're
very
excited
about
the
website.
A
E
Yeah
well,
I
mean
I
just
wanted
to
say,
as
a
designated
Legacy
business
I
mean
one
of
the
reasons
I
feel
like
this
is
so
important.
You
know
what
happened
to
us
in
the
alley.
Was
this
giant
rent
increase
that
we
didn't
see
coming
and
we
couldn't
afford?
And
you
know
my
my
little
wake-up
call
from
that
experience
is
knowing
that
if
you
are
renting,
you
really
there's
no
protection
for
for
your
business.
E
So
you,
you
know,
you
can
be
I
was
doing
business
in
the
alley
for
almost
10
years,
I
mean
I,
felt
very
established
and
rooted
in
that
part
of
Evanston,
but
somebody
new
can
buy
your
property
and
they
can
tell
you
now.
You
owe
us
this
much
money
and
it
can,
you
know,
completely
endanger
your
survival,
so
I
I
think
something
you
know
to
be
taking
these
steps
to
be
recognizing
that
sometimes
the
business
needs
need
help
to
be
recognizing
what
role
I
mean
Pete.
You
say
the
word
business
and
I.
E
And
yet,
when
we
talk
about
like
developing
downtown
Evanston
and
bringing
more
people
to
live
in
downtown
Evanston
and
making
Evanston
a
walkable
City,
if
all
of
those
sort
of
forces
toward
development
drive
out
all
of
the
small
businesses
that
are
actually
giving
the
city
its
character
that
make
people
want
to
come
live
there,
you
know
you
have
a.
You,
have
a
problem
that
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of
cities
are
struggling
to
solve.
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
creative,
helpful,
positive
way
to
work.
A
On
that,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
those
comments
and
I
do
want
to
say,
you
know
we,
our
staff
is
working.
We
are
we've
already
taken
some
steps
towards
some
sort
of
limited
degrees
of
not
you
know
real
heavy
duty
protections
but,
for
example,
when
developers
or
Property
Owners
come
in
and
they
want
variances
to
our
zoning,
we're
adding
a
question
to
that
application
form
that
asks
how
and
I'm
not
going
to
word
it
quite
right
so
step
staff
will
get
it.
A
But
you
know
how
do
you
plan
to
support
or
are
there
existing
businesses
and
how
do
you
plan
to
support
them?
So
just
putting
that
question
into
the
application
already
sends
a
strong
message
like
we
care
about
them
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
that
like
we
care
this
is
you
know
downtown
our
business
districts
are
like
our
living
room
right
and
we
care
about
our
small
businesses.
So
adding
that
question
to
an
application
for
a
variance
to
zoning
is
important.
A
Other
things
that
we're
looking
at
a
lot
of
cities
have
programs
in
place
where
landlords
will
agree
to
have
the
city
participate
in
negotiations
between
landlords
and
and
and
the
business
owners
to
try
to
arrive
at
long-term
lease
agreements,
and
things
like
that.
So
those
are
measures
that
we
hope
we
can
move
forward
on
in
terms
of
policy
that
will
actually
kind
of
serve
well,
we'll
serve
to
some
degree
as
protective
measures,
so
Carl
I'm.
Sorry.
K
No
you're
good
I
I'm,
just
seeing
another
comment
in
the
the
chat,
I
I
think
that
I
mean
personally
I.
Don't
think
that
big
box
stores
should
should
qualify
for
a
legacy
business
because
I
think
the
whole
purpose
of
the
the
program
like
Nina
said,
is
to
support,
and
you
know,
celebrate
our
small
businesses
because
they
are
really
the
the
drivers
of
of
what
people
come
to
our
city.
K
I
mean,
if
you
think
about
where
our
Legacy
businesses
are
located
there
on
the
main
Dempster
mile
they're
on
Central
they're
on
Dodge
they're,
on
Emerson
they're
on
Ashland,
the
small,
older
neighborhoods
that
have
these.
You
know
human
scale,
walkable,
neighborhoods
and
I.
Think
people
like
that
they
want
to
come
and
they
want
to
support
those
kind
of
businesses
because
they're
unique
you
can
go
to
a
Target
anywhere.
You
go,
you
know
any
City.
K
A
As
Carl
mentioned,
you
know
there's
an
application
process
and
which
we're
developing
and
we
do
have
our
pilot
Group,
which
Al's,
Deli
and
John
again
John
pottinger.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
evening
and
Nina
are
both
part
of
that
pilot
group.
So
you
know
it's
about
what
do
you
culturally?
A
How
do
you
contribute
to
the
culture
to
the
culture
in
Evanston?
You
know
what
do
you
bring
to
Evanston,
which
you
know
sometimes,
if
it's
a
chain
store
a
big
box
store
a
formula
store.
A
That
question
would
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
answer
in
a
way
that
would
would
you
know,
meet
our
our
ideas
of
what
is
the
value
of
Legacy
businesses,
I'm
and
Carl.
Thank
you
also
for
addressing
the
long-range
plan
of
the
preservation
commission.
A
I'm
very
excited
about
I'm,
very
excited
about
seeing
our
our
whole
Community
become
educated
about
the
value,
a
preservation,
I
think
oftentimes
people
have
thought
of
it
as
just
being
sort
of
relegated
to
one
part
of
Evanston
and
and
not
really
and
somehow
have
associated
with
just,
whereas
it's
really
so
important
for
for
so
many
parts
of
Evanston,
where
we
have
not
really
addressed
preservation.
So
thank
you
for
your
work
in
that
area.
K
Right
can
I
just
add,
I
think
that
there
was
a
concerted
effort
in
that
plan
to
make
sure
that
we
were
telling
the
full
story
of
evanston's
History
to
not
exclude
any
group,
especially
to
groups
that
have
not
been
acknowledged
in
the
past.
It's
time
for
them.
K
For
that
group
to
be,
you
know,
acknowledged
and
and
have
their
history
shared
as
well
and
then
like,
for
example,
the
cross-pollination
of
groups
has
already
started
because
I
think
the
environment
worked
in
environmental
committee
has
started
to
discuss
a
potential
tree
ordinance
in
the
city,
and
you
know,
trees
are
a
big
part
of
our
City's
history.
We
are
a
tree
City
and
we
do
have
you
know,
I
mean
historically,
we
had
the
The
Elms
that
lined
our
streets,
but
you
know
with
the
Dutch
elm
disease
we've
had
to
slowly.
K
You
know
change
our
trees,
but
trees
are
an
important
part.
So
it
remember
that
preservation
isn't
just
about
buildings,
it's
also
about
landscape
and
more
than
just
buildings,
so
yeah.
A
Okay,
so
thank
you
again
and
let's
see,
I
have
Paul
zamasek
the
director
for
ACT,
our
director
of
our
manager
of
Economic
Development
and
Annie
Coakley,
who
is
our
SSA
director
I,
think
they're,
both
about
to
jump
on
so
we'll
go
ahead.
A
It's
a
nice
nice
time
to
segue
to
hear
from
Paul
an
update
about
economic
development
in
downtown
and
if
Annie
Coakley
is
on
and
we'll
hear
about
new
businesses
and
and
I
will
say,
I
don't
know
if
you've
all
been
to
the
theater
to
the
movies
to
the
the
cinema.
It's
open,
I've
been
there.
It's
really
that's
very
exciting.
I
particularly
loved
I
went
out
for
dinner
and
we
were
able
to
reserve
our
seats
that
was
sort
of
a
new,
a
new
benefit
of
this,
of
our
new
movies,
a
movie
theater.
A
A
A
Am
introducing
you
this
is
Paul
salmansack.
Our
economic
director
economic
development
manager
is
that
right.
L
A
L
I
appreciate
that
and
regarding
by
the
way
I'm
standing
in
a
in
a
warehouse
in
the
back
room
of
an
event
space
in
Skokie
I
was
here
tonight
with
my
colleague
Annie
Coakley,
to
to
brag
about
what's
going
on
in
Evanston,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
in
the
first
ward
in
downtown,
we
sat
on
a
panel
that
was
recorded
local
realtor
Aaron
machevsky
of
the
he
has
a
show
called
inside
the
scav.
So
we
did
that
we
just
finished
thanks
for
inviting
me
late
to
the
meeting
did.
L
A
I
think
a
quick
update
would
be
great.
There
were
a
few
questions
earlier
tonight
about
a
few
openings
of
stores
that
I
wasn't
familiar
with.
Okay.
L
So
going
back
to
2022,
we
had
a
couple
of
initiatives
that
we're
really
proud
of
that
I
believe
are
on,
are
underway
and
going
well.
One
was
our
our
street
plus
Evanston
clean
team
kind
of
a
slow
start.
They
it
took
him
a
little
while
to
get
fully
staffed
and
figure
out
the
routine,
but
I
think
they're
doing
a
good
job
and
we
are
responsive
to
three-on-one
calls.
L
So
if
you
are
seeing
overflowing
trash
cans
or
or
concerns,
let
us
know
and
we'll
pass
that
on
to
the
clean
team,
they've
been
very
responsive.
Candace
Mason
is
the
woman
who
leads
the
team
and
she's
very
receptive
to
input.
L
So
if
you
happen
to
see
her
on
the
street,
say
thanks
or
offer
up
offer
up
some
advice
to
her
if
you're,
if
you're,
seeing
a
mess
somewhere
to
clean
up,
really
important
that
we
keep
the
town
clean,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
just
have
a
nice
environment
to
know
it's
kind
of
a
no-brainer
idea
and
then
the
other
initiative,
okay,
I,
do
see
a
question.
L
Thank
you.
Yeah.
Thanks
for
the
feedback,
the
other
initiative
we're
working
on
closely
with
councilmember
Kelly,
who
brings
her
usual
style
of
you,
know
kind
of
smart
critiques.
You
know
she
doesn't
just
buy
what
they
say
or
recommend.
She
really
challenges
them
to
think
deeper
about
some
of
the
preliminary
recommendations
and
some
of
their
findings.
But
this
is
a
team
out
of
Philadelphia
called
interface,
studio
and
they're
kind
of
maybe
around
six
weeks
away
from
offering
up
some
recommendations
to
the
Council
on
our
business
district
Improvement
opportunities.
L
This
would
include
infrastructure
improvements,
recommendations
around
hosting
events.
Councilmember
Kelly
has
really
been
pushing
hard
to
have
a
music
festival.
I
feel
like
it's
one
of
my
biggest
failures
that
I've
not
been
able
to
bring
that
for
her,
but
we're
figuring
out
how
to
do
it
so
we'll
hope
to
have
one
soon
and
then
there
will
be
a
really
broad
discussion
about
how
do
we
recover
in
this
kind
of
we're
not
post
pandemic,
we're
kind
of,
hopefully
nearing
the
end
of
it.
L
Lots
of
ideas
around
that
and
this
study
will
not
give
all
the
answers,
but
it'll
point
us
in
the
right
direction,
with
your
input
as
community
members
and
evanstonians,
along
with
council
member
Kelly
and
our
team
I
think
I
think
we're
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
I
really
feel
strongly
that
Evanston
is
going
to
emerge
from
this
better
than
before.
This
is
not
the
first
time
that
this
community
has
had
to
to
kind
of
morph
and
change
based
on
economic
conditions.
L
Okay,
so
those
are
the
two
big
initiatives.
Then
we'll
talk
about
some
ground
level,
things
that
have
happened,
the
tour
you
know,
Amy
Morton's
restaurant-
is
up
and
running
she's.
Doing
really
well,
not
sure
if
you
all
love
the
the
bright
Halo
that
you
put
around
it,
but
it
does
kind
of
add
a
bit
of
excitement
and
I
think
she's,
getting
good
reviews
in
the
press
for
food
and
I'm,
hoping
that
that
will
be
the
base
from
which
to
create
an
energy
of
really
good
restaurants
surrounding
Fountain
Square.
L
We
hear
a
lot
about
how
people
are
excited
about
Wilmette.
Well,
I
think
what
people
are
reacting
to
is
not
just
good
restaurants
in
Wilmette,
but
this
energy
around
the
this.
This
agglomeration
or
network
of
restaurants,
together
outdoor
under
lights
and.
L
Of
a
scene,
something
to
be
part
of
and
I
think
we
could
do
better-
around
Fountain
Square,
some
of
these
chain
stores
really
probably
just
kind
of
need
to
fade
away
and
transition
into
more
unique
places.
So
the
tour
Fonda's
come
in,
which
is
a
kind
of
a
high-end
Mexican
restaurant
unique
to
Evanston.
It's
not
a
chain.
That's
going
in
the
the
stained
glass
space,
another
Mexican
restaurant
on
on
Clark
Street
next
to
Einstein,
so
we're
doing.
Okay,
there's
a
lot
of
private
investment.
L
There's
a
lot
of
interest
from
the
development
Community
there.
There
are
some
projects
underway
already
and
more,
not
quite
in
the
works,
but
people
scoping
out
spaces
to
figure
out
what
the
next
phase
of
Evanston
is.
So
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
a
pitch
man.
That's
not
my
style,
but
I
do
want
to
stress
that
I
think
we're
okay,
I
mean
it's
Evanston
and
yes,
we
lost
Clarks.
Yes,
Smiley
is
closed
for
now.
Okay,
I
I
think
we'll
see.
Smiley
back
Smiley
is
a
very
smart
guy
with
you
know.
L
His
family
dates
back
to
the
founding
of
the
of
the
Chicago
Stock
Exchange
he's
gonna
figure
it
out
and
we
lost
flat
top.
You
know
what
flat
top
sorry
it's
it's
a
chain,
it's
a
chain
that
that
that's
had
its
day
and
it's
time
for
it
to
transition
out
and
again,
we've
got
some
good
things
come
in
the
bookstore
on
Orrington,
so
I'll
stop
there.
I
did
see
a
comment
about
parking.
We
parking
is
always
part
of
our
meetings.
We
have
to
continue
to
address
that
at
the
staff
level.
L
I
did
not
see
that
coming
you
can
somebody
read
what
was
the
last
email?
Sorry,
what
was
the
last
chat
comment
that
somebody
sent.
A
L
Interesting
was,
was
it
was
that
I
guess:
I
wasn't
aware
that
that
was
something
that
some
of
the
mem
some
members
of
the
community
were
familiar
with,
and
it
doesn't
surprise
me
and
I'm
glad
you're
aware
of
it.
I
would
say
that
that's
up
to
the
vets,
you
know
the
Vets
have
talked
about
it
and
council,
member
and
I
have
spoken
to
the
vets.
There's
the
way
I
would
summarize
it
is
there
there
isn't
a
Schism,
but
there's
definitely
probably
a
majority
of
our
Evanston
engaged
veterans.
L
Wanna
want
to
figure
out
what
the
options
are
for
relocating
it.
They've
seen
it
in
its
new
space,
they've
seen
how
the
community
engages
with
it
and
maybe
kids
running
around
a
fountain
and
dropping
their
diapers,
and
you
know
salad
dressing
all
over
the
place.
Maybe
that
isn't
the
best
place
for
a
a.
L
Memorial,
so
that's
that
that
may
Claire
that
may
be
a
20-23
activity
that
you
and
I
are
re-engaged
in
in
a
big
way.
We're,
but
we're
letting
the
veterans
lead
the
way
on
this,
because
it
really
is
their
Realm.
A
L
As
Paul
as
Paul
said,
it's
it's
serious
and
we
we
as
a
community
need
to
to
be
open
to
to
hearing
what
they
have
to
say
and
maybe
relocating
it.
If
necessary
and
I
saw
Mr
tannenbaum's
Tax
of
dollar
signs.
Yes,
you
know
it
will
be
expensive
and
and
do
we
keep
that
very
expensive
wall,
or
do
we
build
a
new?
You
know,
you
know,
there's
lots
of
things
to
figure
out,
so
I'll
stop
there
and
wait
for
the
next
question.
I
have
a
couple
questions
for.
L
L
The
the
owner
of
the
property
is
negotiating
terms
with
crumble
and
crumble
is
kind
of
a
a
popular
high-end
upscale
cookie
and
it
gets
a
lot
of
social
media
following
and
I
hope
it
happens.
So
keep
your
fingers
crossed
Josh
I,
don't
know
if
you're,
if
you're
good
at
Community
engagement
or
rallying
the
troops
but
but
see
what
you
can
put
together
a
little
campaign
to
try
to
get
them
to
commit
to
signing
a
lease,
because
it
would
be
good
to
have
them
here.
L
L
Devil
Dogs
Devil
Dogs
is
opening
they've
signed
the
lease
again,
that's
at
the
movie
theater
development
and
this
place
will
have
cool
well
I,
think
it's
cool
cool
murals,
designed
by
a
local
artist,
Leah,
Pinsky
and
Dustin
Harris.
L
It
will
be
a
hot
dog
burger
place
that
I
think
is
going
to
have
wide
appeal
to
the
middle
school
and
high
school
kids
and
the
college
kids.
The
church
street
plaza
movie.
L
Theater
development
is
kind
of
reformatting
as
kind
of
a
family
destination
which
we've
been
really
desperate
for
for
years,
and
my
kids
are
going
to
be
kind
of
too
old
for
it
by
the
time
by
the
time
it's
over,
but
it'll
be
a
nice
attraction
for
for
for
some
of
the
younger
families
in
Evanston
but
Josh
it
sounds
like
you're,
a
foodie
I.
H
L
A
There
you
go
1900
Sherman
question.
L
Yes,
I
don't
have
I
I
have
no
details
other
than
that
was
in
my
slide
presentation
tonight.
What
was
the
question
just
the
status
of
it
correct,
yeah,
I
I'm,
unfortunately,
I'm
I'm,
unfamiliar
with
the
progress
of
that
project.
Okay,
my
colleague
Sarah
flax,
who
manages
housing,
would
be
a
better
person
to
provide
that
information.
L
A
L
A
Question
about
this
Fountain
I'm.
Sorry,
pardon
me
for
interrupting
Fountain
Square
about
the
splash
pads
I.
Think
you
know,
along
with
the
question
I
think
we
we're
looking
at.
Maybe
you
can
address
it
Paul,
but
we
want
to
have
a
more
comprehensive
plan
which
involves
some
decisions
that
haven't
yet
been
made,
as
well
as
there's
a
lawsuit,
but.
L
A
C
L
The
only
thing
I
would
add
is
yes,
the
city
council,
I
believe,
has
made
some
form
of
decision
to
wait
for
the
lawsuit
to
be
completed
before
making
decisions
on
repairing
it
and
and
or
redesigning
it.
We
are
of
the
mindset
that
we're
going
to
repair
it
and
we
believe
that
the
contractor
is
responsible
for
that,
but
it's
a
law,
it's
a
matter
of
the
Law
Department,
it's
a
legal
case
and
I'm
speaking
in
really
broad
terms,
because
I'm
not
involved
in
it,
but
that
that's
where
we'll
stop.
L
L
You
for
your
all
right,
I
hope,
I
was
helpful
and
I
and
again
I
I
feel
like
I
kept
relatively
brief,
but
maybe
in
future
meetings.
If
you
want
to
send
me
emojis
of
stop
signs-
or
you
know,
to
cut
me
off
if
I'm
talking
too
much,
that
would
be
okay
too,
but
it's
always
good
to
talk
with
with
all
of
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Okay
did
Annie
Coakley
are
you?
Is
it.
L
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
Paul
really
appreciate
it.
Bye-Bye,
okay,
well
I'm,
not
sure
if
Annie's
on
yet
so
maybe
what
we
can
do
is
just
a
little
question
and
answers
concerns.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
big
topics
like
the
Northwestern
stadium
and
what
else
the
oh,
the
I
know.
A
A
lot
of
people
wanted
me
to
address,
and
I
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
legacy
plan:
development,
The,
Horizon
development
at
16,
31
1621
to
1631
Chicago
Avenue,
so
they
have
submitted
their
an
application
for
a
zoning
analysis
for
special
for
a
15-story,
mixed-use
residential
building
and
currently
we're
trying
to
or
set
set
a
date
in
time
for
a
community
meeting
we're
looking
at
the
end
of
the
month
before
that
goes
forward.
There's
a
little
bit.
The
Michaels
would
prefer
that
it
were
in
person.
A
I
had
requested
that
our
community
meeting
be
virtual,
so
that
because
a
lot
of
residents
said
they
couldn't
attend
in
person
or
they
would
be
traveling,
and
this
is
so
important
to
them.
So
right
now,
staff
is
looking
to
see
if
we
can
arrange
for
a
hybrid
meeting
so
that
it's
both
to
accommodate
their
requests.
A
That
would
be
in
person
but
also
residence
requests
for
there's
Annie
great,
a
residence
request
that
it
be
virtual,
so
I'm
waiting
to
get
that
piece
ironed
out
and
then
postcards
will
go
out
and
we'll
have
a
community
meeting
to
discuss
this.
This
proposed
hot
15
story
high-rise
so
hope
that
if
there
are
any
more
questions
on
that,
otherwise
I
do
see
Annie.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
our
call.
This
is
Annie
Coakley.
She
is
our
the
SSA
director
for
downtown
Evanston.
O
Sorry
I'm
at
a
networking
event,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
Paul
covered,
but
everyone
always
wants
to
know
about
new
business.
So
I'll
go
I'll
start
there.
Obviously
the
AMC
movie
theater
is
up
and
running.
I
will
tell
you
that
I've
been
hearing
from
a
lot
of
community
members,
they're,
not
thrilled
with
the
look
of
it.
Amc
and
ownership
of
the
building
have
told
us
that
you
know
the
finishing
touches
will
take
place.
They're
working
on
it,
so
you'll
be
able
to
get
the
full
full
theater
experience
very
soon.
O
They've
also
signed
a
lease
with
egg
harbor,
which
has
been
in
the
news,
but
if
you
didn't
see
that
bigwig
tacos
Jump
Zone,
which
is
a
trampoline
space,
they're
working
on
another
entertainment
user,
that
will
take
up
about
10
000
square
feet
of
space
and
then,
if
they
do
sign
that
lease,
there
will
only
be
2
000
square
feet
of
space
yet
available
in
that
entire
complex,
which
is
kind
of
incredible.
O
They've
done
a
really
great
job
of
attracting
tenants
to
take
their
vacant
spaces
that
were
there
for
quite
a
while
and
Fonda
is
a
restaurant
I'm
gonna?
Maybe
it's
1630
venison
Benson
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
the
old
stained,
glass
restaurant!
It's
a
like
more
of
an
upscale
Mexican
restaurant
Amy
Morton,
as
you
know,
closed
found,
but
she's
opened
La
Tour.
O
If
that
hasn't
been
covered
on
the
meeting
tonight,
I'm,
sorry
or
if
it
was,
and
that
is
a
French
Moroccan
restaurant
in
all
of
the
restaurants
that
I'm
talking
about
tonight
next
month
is
the
North
Shore
restaurant
month.
It's
an
entire
month
of
February
you'll.
Be
learning
information
from
that.
If
you
sign
up
for
my
newsletter,
I'll
send
it
to
Claire
and
the
council
member
can
get
it
out
to
all
of
you
respectively.
O
Also
in
February
downtown
Evanston
celebrates
hyuga,
it's
spelled
h-y-g-g-e,
but
it
is
pronounced
hygge,
it's
a
Scandinavian
term
for
things
that
are
cozy
and
warm
that
you
can
sort
of
celebrate
in
the
winter
months
we're
going
to
be
taking
over
a
vacant.
Storefront
the
close-knit
space
on
Orrington
and
we're
going
to
have
a
series
of
workshops.
That's
pop-up
for
the
entire
month!
O
Think
crafts,
art
classes,
a
whole
bunch
of
things
to
you
know
be
in
a
communal
setting
and
do
mindful
things
like
you
know:
watercolor,
for
example,
we'll
have
a
couple
of
other
restaurants
and
other
spaces
that
are
hosting
food
related
events.
All
of
that
can
be
found
on
the
downtown
Evanston
website,
which
is
downtownevanston.org.
O
So
we
have
you
know:
February
is
a
slow
month
for
business,
but
in
general,
because
it's
cold
and
kind
of
crummy
out
and
so
the
the
restaurant
month
is
a
reason
to
get
out,
take
advantage
of
like
a
free,
appetizer
or
dessert
or
some
discounts,
and
then
the
hygge
event
as
well
and
I
think
that
about
covers
it
for
newness.
But
of
course,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
anybody
has
any.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Annie
really
appreciate
it
any
questions.
Thank
you.
It's
great
to
hear
about
the
new
businesses.
Let's
see.
A
Okay
and
Lori,
thank
you
for
your
question
about
parking.
I
know,
that's
not
directly
related,
but
I
agree
with
you.
There
are
a
few
questions
here
about
parking
foreign.
A
O
That
is
actually
owned
by
the
ownership
of
the
Orrington
Hotel,
so
they're,
the
they
own
that
real
estate
and
I
actually
did
reach
out
to
the
ownership
of
or
the
general
manager.
Before
this
meeting
for
you
all
tonight
to
see
you
know
when
they
were
going
to
go
in
for
permitting.
You
know
we're
down
event
space
a
little
bit
when
we
lost
Smiley
brother
and
it's
without
that
Ballroom,
not
having
that
capacity
for
a
large
event
space.
O
It's
unfortunate
for
Evanston,
but
they
are
their
total
investment
to
improve
that
hotel
is
around
40
million
dollars,
which
is
significant,
and
the
first
thing
they're
going
to
be
concentrating
on
is
that
Ballroom
to
bring
back
event
space
for
you
know
anything
from
a
wedding
to
a
prom.
O
What
have
you,
but
they
do
own,
that
space,
that
real
estate,
where
the
the
salon
was
the
Steven
Papa
George
salon
and
the
Unicorn
I'm,
not
sure
how
aggressive
they
are
in
marketing
that
space
right
now,
but
I
will
find
that
out
and
then
I
saw
a
question
about
LA,
Fitness,
I,
don't
I,
know
they've,
toured
it
to
four
operators,
all
Fitness
related
I'm,
not
sure
where
they
are
or,
if
they're
close
to
signing
a
lease
with
an
operator.
Yes,
fingers
crossed
council
member
Kelly.
O
That
is
a
huge
footprint
that
is
vacant
for
us.
My
guess,
if
I
was
a
someone
who
guessed
things
like
this
is
that
it
might
be
divided
that
space
might
have
to
be
divided
because
it
is
quite
large.
It's
like
I
think
34
000
square
feet.
So
that's
an
awful
lot
of
space
for
one
operator,
I.
A
Yeah
one
of
our
existing
businesses,
Burger
King,
on
track.
O
There
is
going
to
be
and
there'll
be
notice,
going
out
the
crane
to
do
some
of
the
literal.
Heavy
lifting
of
their
project
will
be
I,
think
up
for
three
or
four
days
which
will
completely
help
through
traffic
on
Clark,
Street,
I'm
positive.
The
city
will
provide
you
know
substantial
time
for
communication
to
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
that
there
won't
be
through
traffic
on
Clark,
Street
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
for
three
or
four
days
and
that's
either
next
week
or
the
following
week.
O
But
yes
they're.
Definitely
on
track,
oh,
and
who
else
is
on
track
the
new
restaurant,
Thomas
and
Dutch,
where
Farmhouse
was
and
council
member
Kelly
was
so
helpful
in
getting
that
beautiful
outdoor
Cafe
permanent
Outdoor
Cafe
setup.
They
are
on
track
to
open
end
February.
O
So
that's
excellent.
It's
A,
Whole,
New,
Concept,
new
name,
new
everything
same
ownership.
So
we're
really.
You
know
it's
sort
of
a
sink
or
swim
industry.
If
you
don't,
you
know
continue
to
reinvent
yourself:
you're
gonna,
you're
gonna
struggle
a
little
bit.
The
restaurant
industry
is
significantly
difficult,
I'm
sure
I,
don't
have
to
tell
a
lot
of
you
on
the
call
here
and
we
did
lose
some
you
know
recently
and
that
is
very
common.
O
At
the
beginning
of
the
year,
a
restaurant
owner
will
decide
like
okay
I
hung
out
for
the
holidays,
but
I'm,
just
not
going
to
be
able
to
you
know,
continue
to
operate
in
this
manner.
I
do
think.
There's
some
I
have
two
Brokers
calling
me
for
the
Clarks
off
campus
space
on
Davis
Street,
with
very
exciting
tenants.
I,
of
course,
can't
mention
who
they
are,
but
I
think
we'll
have
assigned
at
least
there
very
soon.
A
Yeah
one
of
our
very
oldest
business,
yes,
35.
O
A
O
I
say
right:
okay,
that's
the
right
word!
Yes,
yeah
I
mean
if,
if
you,
if
there's
a
business
owner
on
the
call
that
wants
to
get
involved,
you
know
a
c-o-a-k-l-e-y
at
downtownevanston.org,
please
reach
out
to
me
or
just
go
to
downtownevanston.org
I
need
my
contact.
Information
is
on
the
site
yeah.
We
we
reach
out
to
everybody
with
our
business
newsletter.
O
It's
gone
out
about
four
times
now,
with
a
form
for
businesses
to
sign
up
and
we're
also
working
with
local
creatives.
Like
I
mentioned
in
this
vacant,
storefront
we're
going
to
have
some
art
classes
that
local
artists
are
going
to
be
teaching
through.
You
know.
Some
of
these
events
are
free.
Some
of
them
are
ticketed.
All
of
them
require
an
RSVP
and
links
to
all
of
that
is
on
our
our
website,
or
you
know
again
h.
O
Y
g
g
e
is
the
term
is
a
Scandinavian
term,
but
it's
pronounced
hoga.
N
A
Thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
address
the
parking
somebody
earlier
to
mentioned.
Could
we
try
a
month
of
free
I
since
I
got
elected
I've
been
all
over
that
I
I
feel
very
strongly
that
we
should
be
trying
free
parking
or
some
portion
of
free
parking
and,
and
then
compare
you
know
the
sales
tax
revenue
and
see
what
kind
of
an
impact
something
like
that.
So
I
appreciate
that
suggestion
to
try
a
month
of
free
parking
or
two
just
you
know
it
to
be
able
to
compare
some
get
some
data.
A
Let's
see,
there's
another
question:
oh
is
Paul
within
an
earshot.
How
does
someone
get
a
grant
or
Tiff
money
for
their
business.
O
Grants
there
is
a
new
grant
program
coming
out
through
Paul's
shop
that
is
more
robust
than
the
storefront
modernization
program.
So
it
is
for
different
types
of
things
than
just
the
facade
of
the
of
a
building
or
a
storefront
I.
O
Don't
know
what
they're
calling
it
actually
and
Tiff
if
you're
in
a
tiff
District,
then
there's
possibilities,
but
there
are
not
many
Tiff
districts
in
Evanston
and
that's
the
only
way
to
finance
a
tiff
grant
program
is,
if
you're,
in
a
specific
tip
district,
and
there
are
funds
available
that
aren't
earmarked
for
a
specific
project.
O
A
Do
you
know,
if
is,
is
Paul
there?
Is
he
so
I'm,
not
the
process
for
applying
for
Tiff
Grant
hi?
Thank
you,
Paul.
Sorry
to
pull
you
back
in.
A
Oh,
that's:
okay!
I!
You
know
that's
a
great
question:
what
is
the
process
for
for
applying
for
Tiff
funding
like
what's
the
first
step.
A
So
I'll
see
if
we
don't
get
an
answer
tonight,
I'll
make
sure
I
will
put
that
on
my
next
email.
You
know
what
are
the
steps
involved
in
applying
for
Tiff
Grant,
it's
a
great
question
and
also
by
the
way,
hello
Annie.
Did
you.
A
Okay
but
I'll
get
to
the
bottom
of
that
and
make
sure
I
respond
to
that,
and
also
please
always
email
me
so
I'll
put
that
also
on
the
agenda,
so
I
address
it
at
the
ward
meeting.
Also
anytime,
you
want,
you
know
special
topics
to
be
addressed.
Please
just
email
me
at
any
any
point
in
time
or
text
me
and
I'll
make
sure
I
put
it
on
the
agenda.
O
I
saw
a
question
about
the
fountain.
Would
I
re?
Oh
sorry,
sorry
what
I
understand
there
is
again
that
the
it's
a
legal
you
know
question
at
this
point.
There
is
a
lawsuit.
A
Oh,
that's:
okay!
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
so
you
don't
have
to
oh.
Thank
you.
I
see
someone
put
a
link
up
here
about
Tiff's
districts.
Also,
I
wonder
if
thank
you
for
putting
that
link
up
and
Carl
if
you're
still
on
I,
don't
know
if
you
are,
but
there
is
right
now
we
do
have
a
City
website
for
our
Legacy
businesses,
but
we
will
have
a
much
bigger,
robust
fancier
fun
website
soon.
A
So,
if
Carl,
if
you're
still
on,
if
you
could
put
that
in
the
chat
box,
that
would
be
great,
terrific,
okay,
Annie.
Thank
you
so
much
questions
for
for
Annie
Coakley,
our
SSA
director,
okay.
Well,
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
you
jumping
on
after
meeting
like
that.
Thank
you.
So
much
no.
O
Problem
thanks
everyone,
a
c
o
a
k,
l
e
y
at
downtownevanston.org
feel
free
to
email
me
with
any
questions.
Take
care.
Everyone
thank.
A
You
take
care
you
too,
and
thank
you
Carl
for
putting
the
Legacy
Business
program.
Okay,
now
I
I
know
it's
already
pretty
late.
So
maybe
a
few
minutes
I
want
to
make
sure
I
do
address
questions
that
people
that
all
of
you
might
have.
That
was
really
a
lovely
evening
with
many
wonderful
guests.
A
A
So
the
metrovidec
is
being
refurbished
at
Davis,
but
will
the
CTA
do
the
same
thing
at
Davis
to
complete
the
job
I
I
assume
you
mean
that
it's
being
partially
refurbished
I
will
find
out
Deborah.
Thank
you
for
asking
I
know
we
have
a
few
of
the
viaducts
that
need
desperate
attention.
I
know
over
here
at
Lincoln
and
ridge,
which
is
right
at
the
Seventh
Ward
at
First
Ward.
That
needs
a
lot
of
attention
as
needed
attention
for
a
while.
M
Claire,
this
is
Deborah,
just
a
clarification
for
the
borders
of
Ward
one
is
it
Benson
street?
Is
that
the
end
of
Ward
one
right.
M
A
M
M
I
know
it
looks
like
it
looks
like
when
they
did
the
Metra
side
of
it.
They
completed
it,
but
when
they
went
to
the
CTA,
which
is
the
site
on
the
The
Lakeside,
it
looks
like
it
was
all
buffed
down
and
readied
for
something
but
then
stopped
so
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
a
separate
thing
that
CTA
has
to
do
by
itself
and
Metro
is
no
longer
involved
or
because
they
were
doing
all
the
buffing
and
sanding
of
it,
but
then
never
finished,
painting
it
like
they
did.
The
Metra
well.
A
Thank
you,
I
really
appreciate
the
question
I'll
find
out
and
it's
it's
an
x,
a
great
question
and
I
need
to
I'll
find
out.
Okay.
A
Let's
see
Ryan
Field,
let's
see
update
on
Ryan,
Field
I.
Think
at
this
point
someone
asked
that
question
or
is
that
a
just
a
direct?
That
was
a
direct
message
to
me,
but
Ryan
Field
Northwestern
has
submitted
its
application
for.
A
A
One
moment
and
they
have
already
submitted
a
zoning
analysis.
Application
to
and
I
think
parking
is
one
of
the
big
issues
in
the
zoning
analysis.
Where,
for
what
they're
asking
for
they
would
need
a
thousand
over
four
thousand
parking
spaces.
A
And
but
they're
proposing
1
300.
So
that
would
be
that's
part
of
part
of
the
zoning
analysis.
I
won't
go
into
it's
many
pages
long
and
but
then
for
the
commercial
aspect.
With
regard
to
concerts,
they
will
be
submitting
an
application
for
a
zoning
text
Amendment
for
a
number
of
concerts
anywhere
from
I.
Think
that's
still
up
for
debate
how
many
concerts
that
would
be
a
year.
A
Any
questions
about
that
I'll
do
my
very
best
to
answer
or
if
there's
someone
else
online
too,
who
from
the
Seventh
Ward,
feel
free
to
update
on
the
Northwestern
situation.
J
It
really
makes
it
in
the
warm
months
and
then
another
undefined
number
of
smaller
concerts
and
events
of
10
000
people
and
it's
in
total
conflict
with
our
zoning
code
and
our
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
push
out
there
and
there's
surveys
being
put
out
by
Northwestern
and
people
on
the
street
that
are
paid
by
Northwest.
So
I
just
want
people
to
be
aware.
This
is
a
huge,
huge
issue,
and
that
needs
a
lot
of
clarity
and
discussion
and
wondering
you
know
this
is
just
so.
People
have
a
relative
perspective.
J
The
United
Center
hosts
about
23
000
and
the
Horizon
I
think
says
28
000,
and
this
would
be
thirty
five
thousand
so
I
just
want
that's
why
I
was
wondering
if
you've
heard
any
more
updates
as
far
as
where
they
are
and
what
they're
doing
and
what
their
time
really
line
is.
A
I'm,
sorry,
just
so
I
just
know
they
they're
still
waiting
to.
They
have
not
yet
submitted
their
text.
Amendment
application
for
a
text
amendment
to
allow
for
to
allow
for
the
concerts
and
the
they
submitted
in
December.
Well,
December
8th.
Our
staff
gave
them
a
response
to
their
zoning
analysis,
application
and
again
they.
A
They
have
just
a
lot
of
questions
and
they
still
need
a
lot
of
information
back
from
from
Northwestern
regarding
all
kinds
of
things:
loading
docks,
defensing,
demolition,
just
lots
of
questions
still
so
they'll
be
submitting
more
so
they're,
still
very
much
in
the
zoning
analysis.
Application,
Phase,
I,
don't
know
when
they're
expected
to
submit
an
application
for
the
text,
Amendment
and
then
they'll
also
have
to
submit
an
application
for
a
liquor
code,
Amendment
right
to
be
able
to
allow
alcohol
sales
at
the
stadium.
A
A
J
You
can
you
hear
me:
okay,
yes,
the
United
Center
hosts
their
concerts
are
about
23
000
and
the
other
one.
The
other
second
largest
is:
oh,
maybe
it's
the
Tinley
Park,
but
one
of
them
is
28
000
and
this
would
be
35
000
people
coming
from
all
over
and
they
most
people
will
be
going
like
they
do
at
these
other
concert,
venues
there's
eating
and
they're
and
drinking
in
the
facility.
J
So
is
this
a
lot
to
be
discussed
because
there's
a
there's,
a
certain
amount
of
misinformation,
that's
coming
forth
and
questions
need
to
be
asked
because
the
impact
on
the
neighborhoods
is
not
just
the
surrounding
five
neighborhoods,
but
it's
all
of
Evanston
and
the
businesses
really
and
I
just
would
love
people
to
really
pay
attention.
Ask
some
questions
of
what
are
our
values.
A
You
thank
you
very
much
Mary
a
couple
of
other
questions
here.
Oh
you
shouldn't
feel
bad
Gail.
Thank
you
for
asking
about
the
Harley
Clark.
A
Yes,
so
the
artist
book
house
is
pulling
out
due
to
an
ability
to
raise
the
funds
needed.
I.
Think
the
good
news
is,
we
do
have
the
Jen's
Jensen's
Garden
501c3
organization
that
will
continue
to
work
to
make
hopefully
will
continue
to
work
and
maintain
the
grounds.
A
A
Think
then
we'll
start
to
look
at
the
Harley
Clark
and
and
how
we
proceed
with
that
to
make
it
available
for
Community
use
and
how
we
do
that,
as
per
the
referendum,
to
keep
that
as
a
space
and
a
house
on
the
lake
for
the
community
so
so
again,
I'm
hopeful
that
the
Jen
Jensen's
Gardens
will
continue
to
do
the
beautiful
work
they've
been
doing
to
maintain
the
historic
Gardens.
F
This
is
a
really
reward,
one
thing
but
I
think
it's
important
is
I.
I
read
confusing
conflicting
reports
about
a
new
school
in
Ward
five
and
then
maybe
they'll
tweak
the
other
schools
they'll
close
something
and
change
the
boundaries.
Do
you
think
that's
going
smoothly,
I
mean?
Is
it
all
above
board.
A
So
yeah
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
we
they.
It
was
presented
at
the
finance
and
budget
committee
recently,
just
a
presentation,
I
think
we
on
finance
and
budget.
We
absolutely
still
have
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
think
we
need
to
give
direction,
but
we
haven't
been.
We
haven't
been
provided.
Yet
what
we
feel
is
the
information
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
give
direction
to
staff
and
to
council
from
finance
and
budget
I
am
concerned.
A
I
do
have
great
concerns
about
the
costs
that
we're
talking
about
to
build
potentially
build
a
new
community
center
in
order
to
accommodate
a
Fifth,
Ward
School,
Fifth,
Ward
School
seems
wonderful,
but
to
incur
those
kind
of
costs,
I
don't
think
District
65
either
wants
to
see
Evanston
residents
burden
in
such
a
way
in
order
to
have
to
be
able
to
provide
a
Fifth,
Ward
school.
So
yes,
I'm
also
concerned
and
I
will
continue
to
ask
questions
and
I
expect.
A
Maybe
not
this
next
finance
and
budget
session,
but
hopefully
the
one
after
that
will
have
a
more
robust
discussion
and
give
some
direction
as
to
how
we
feel
the
city
should
should
proceed
in
a
fiscally
responsible
way
on
this.
Thank
you
sure.
So
and
again
all
the
pl.
It's
all
still
up
there
looking
at
a
variety
of
different
options
and
plans.
So
so
thank
you
for
asking
that's
a
very
important
topic.
A
Let's
see
and
Dave
Reynolds,
thank
you.
What
has
happened
since
I'm,
not
sure
I,
understand
the
question.
A
Thank
you
yes,
I
had
actually,
as
chair
of
the
APW
I,
did
ask
staff
to
give
a
special
presentation
on
that
and
I
think
we're
just
still
they're
still
developing
getting
more
input
is
that's
my
understanding
that
they
have
not
yet
there's
no
concrete
proposal.
But,
thank
you.
That's
you
know
I'm
going
to
ask
for
another
update,
because
at
that
point
they
just
presented
a
little
bit
the
feedback
that
The
Firm,
the
consulting
firm
that
was
hired,
got
from
Residence
at
the
library.
L
A
So
you
went
to
the
library
correct,
with
a
bunch
of
schematics
were
presented
so
I,
don't
know
that
they're
looking
for
more
input
or
if
they're
having
I
I,
don't
anyway
I
will
follow
up
I,
don't
know
where
we're
at
that
that
was.
Our
last
sort
of
update
was
on
Resident
feedback
from
that
presentation
at
the
library
I
had
expressed
concerns
about
the
initially
proposed
expense
over
the
next
five
years.
It
was
a
large
number
and
I
was
trying
to.
You
know,
understand
how
that
was
accounted
for.
A
So
that's
been
sort
of
pulled
off
the
table
for
the
moment,
the
initially
the
initial
large
expense
that
was
proposed
until
we
understand
what
we
as
a
community,
how
we
really
want
to
proceed
with
at
the
lakefront
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
overwhelming
response
to
keep
it
as
natural
as
possible.
J
A
A
A
Yeah,
that's
a
lot
of
money.
800
million
is
the
number
I've
heard.
A
J
The
actual
word
is
called
that
the
Ryan's
are
giving
to
Northwestern
and
I
think
but
I
think
only
400
is
going
toward
400
million,
which
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
I
think
it's
400
for
the
stadium
and
I.
Don't
know
where
the
rest
of
the
money
is
going
and.
A
Right,
it
is
yes,
I
hear
you
Lori
I
I,
hear
your
concerns.
Yeah
I
think
that
should
be
discussed.
I
think
your
point
is
really
well
taken
and
we
should
actually
talk
about
that
sort
of
an
expense
in
light
of
so
many
businesses
suffering
and
people
having
to
move
out
because
the
high
cost
of
living
here
so
I
I,
don't
know
you
know
where
it
goes,
but
I
think
it
is
an
important
Point
you're
making.
D
J
Thank
you,
and
one
thing
I'd
like
to
highlight,
is
that
there
are
actually
seven
football
games
a
year.
There
are
81
sports
events
there
a
year
between
basketball,
baseball
soccer
with
you
know
both
men
and
women's,
and
then
there
are
four
days,
I,
think
or
five
days
of
graduations
and
then
there's
whatever
other
special
events.
They
do
so
just
to
be
aware
that
the
text
Amendment,
if
that's
where
they
go,
would
change
the
nature
of
the
entire
U2
district
from
those
type
of
events
to
commercial
professional
events
yeah.
So
it
is
huge.
J
You
know
and
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about.
You
know
what
is
the
purpose
of
a
non-profit
educational
organization
to
your
point?
Are
they
in
education
or
professional
football
in
sports
and
entertainment.
A
H
D
Can
I
can
answer
it
a
little
bit?
This
is
Laurie
howack
I,
just
don't
have
my
picture
up,
but
the
the
gentleman
who
had
was
running
it
has
had
health
problems
and
is
not
planning
to
return.
Some
of
the
staff
from
there
have
moved
to
other
locations
and
are
currently
contacting
former
clients
to
come
to
them
down
in
Lakeview.
A
You
yeah
thank
you,
Lori,
really
appreciate
it.
Okay!
Well,
thank
you.
Everybody
for
coming
this
evening,
really
lovely
meeting
so
much
appreciate
your
participation,
your
thoughts,
your
ideas,
your
collaboration,
okay,
good
night,.