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A
B
I
see
council,
member
Howard
Harris
is
here
too,
and
we
we
are
excited,
as
everyone
else
is,
to
learn
about
what
this
project
is
going
to
look
like
and
all
the
details
of
it
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Paul
salmasak,
who
is
our
economic
development
manager
and
he's
going
to
introduce
the
team,
I
think
Paul,
you
can
lay
out
the
agenda.
I
think
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be
to
let
Pearl
make
his
presentation
and
then
take
questions
after
that.
A
C
I
just
want
to
say,
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
about
the
project.
This
was
actually
the
first
thing,
I
voted
on
as
a
city
council
member,
so
it
was
exciting
to
be
involved
in
a
affordable
housing
project
right
off
the
bat,
even
though
I
just
came
in
to
give
the
thumbs
up,
but
looking
forward
to
hearing
more.
A
A
E
A
A
Of
course,
I'm
new
to
myself,
I'll
ask
Johanna
Casanova
to
introduce
her
team
and
then
present
the
main
event
as
council
member,
when
it
asks
we're
going
to
you're.
Welcome
to
send
me
a
chat
directly
if
you're
an
uncomfortable
asking
questions
online
I'll
read
those
questions
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
which
is
relatively
short,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
the
project,
the
process,
the
timeline.
At
that
time
we
can
have
a
live
q
a
session
for
those
that
want
to
have
that.
A
A
G
A
A
G
Problem
so
good
evening,
everyone
well
Paul
finds
the
presentation.
My
name
is
Joanna
Casanova
I
am
Senior.
Vice
president
of
pearl
developers,
we
presented
to
the
city
council
members
back
in
the
spring
and
we
are
very
excited
that
we
were
selected,
and
this
is
the
pro
the
first
meeting
where
we
are
trying
to
present
to
you
the
concept
designed
as
we
move
forward,
and
we
go
next
steps
to
start
submitting
the
zoning
process.
G
A
G
Yes,
excellent,
so
we're
here
this
evening,
two
percent
about
South,
Boulevard,
Shores,
its
location
and
maybe
many
of
you
already
know-
excellent
location
by
the
Tod
interest,
stop
at
504,
514,
South
Boulevard
in
Evanston
and
just
a
couple
blocks
away
from
the
lake.
So
we're
very
excited
about
these
excellent
infield
development
and
changing
the
current
parking
lots
for
a
multi-unit
Housing
Development
that
hopefully
blends
with
a
great
community
of
Evanston.
G
G
Right
so
Pearl
is
naturally
recognized.
Developer
we've
been
around
for
almost
20
years
and
we
are
a
developer
owner
of
multi-unit
housing
and
we
do
both
market
rate
and
affordable
housing
developments.
We
currently
own
and
have
developed
almost
7
000
units
and
we
do
have.
We
are
recording
Cleveland.
We
do
have
an
office
in.
G
Which
I
am
deep
expression
of
that?
We
are
very
excited
to
have
partnered
with
leopardo
companies
as
a
general
contractor,
together
with
purpose
structure.
We
also
have
a
construction
arm.
Leopardo
is
an
excellent
construction.
Company
has
been
selected
for
2500
they're,
a
leader
in
multifamily
and
have
been
recently
selected,
a
top
100
Greek
contractors.
So
we
are
very
excited
about
that,
since
we're
trying
to
be
a
state-of-the-art
facility
and
sustainability
as
an
architect
of
record
and
engineering.
G
Here
we
have
hookah
Dion,
who
also
have
Offices
here
in
Illinois
and
works
Nation,
one
with
pearl
and
part
of
the
team
that
is
essential
is
database
plus,
which
is
an
energy
consultant.
They
have
secure
many
energy
certifications
and
have
extensive
knowledge
in
energy
energy
modeling.
We
are
trying
to
really
again
be
a
state
of
the
art
on
the
latest
green
technology.
Here,
The
Proposal
will
include
60,
very
high
quality,
affordable
units.
We
have
developed
conceptually,
and
this
may
still
change
as
we
refine
the
engineering
60
Apartments
about.
J
Yes,
like
Joanna,
said
I'm
Eric
marring
from
hooker
young
one
of
the
lead
project,
Architects
for
the
project
and
I
can
walk
through
a
little
bit
more
detail
of
our
our
design.
You
can
see
our
site
plan
up
there.
You
can
see
we
have
our
location
of
our
five-story
building
there
right
off
of
the
front,
so
we
can
kind
of
Shield
the
parking
in
the
back.
J
We've
set
the
building
back,
you
know,
I,
you
know,
we've
kind
of
varied
the
front
facade
and
we've
set
the
building
back
in
order
to
give
you
know
some
front
yard
space
to
the
project.
You
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
more
commercial
building,
I
think
to
the
West,
that's
right
on
the
sidewalk
and
then
obviously
we
have
our
residential.
That's
over
to
the
the
east
side
with
front
yards
as
well,
and
you
can
see.
One
of
the
concepts
here
is
to
instead
of
having
an
apartment
building
that
has
one
single
entrance
off
the
front.
J
We're
providing
some
units
that
have
ground
floor
access,
so
we
can
kind
of
provide
a
little
bit
more
active
front
yard.
You
know,
with
with
you
know,
doors
directly
into
units
to
give
it
a
little
bit
more.
Not
you
know
bring
it
a
little
bit
down
to
that
residential
scale.
You
can
see
our
site
plan.
We
have
our
access,
Drive
kind
of
aligns
with
Hinman.
With
that
existing
right
away
to
kind
of
keep.
H
J
Setback
to
the
to
the
property
on
the
East
I
think
we
currently
have
about
55
feet
which
allows
us
that
access
drive
down
to
the
alley
into
our
parking
in
the
rear
and
then
also
you
can
see,
provide
some
green
space
and
some
landscape
buffer
as
well
yeah
Johanna
mentioned
it's.
You
know
underutilized
utilized
lot
right
now.
J
J
So
you
can
see
our
our
initial
concept,
preliminary
concept
at
this
point,
five-story
building
you
can
kind
of
see
we're
trying
to
use
some
different
materials
and
some
different
massing.
You
know
along
the
front
to
kind
of
bring
the
scale
down
a
little
bit,
so
it
doesn't
appear
as
such
a
massive
building.
J
So
it's
not
just
a
stark
front
yard,
but
it
can
be
a
little
bit
more
active,
vibrant
front
yard.
More,
like
a
a
residential
residential
neighborhood,
you
know
Green
spaces
around
we've
got
some
space
and
obviously
I
talked
about
the
front.
The
East
Side
we've
got
some
Terraces
as
well
that
provide
some
some
green
space.
J
We've
got
the
the
20
dedicated
parking
spaces
for
the
for
the
residents,
and
then
we've
also
got
some.
You
know
as
we
get
further
in
the
design
of
of
incorporating
you
know,
rooftop
solar
panels
or
other
sustainable
elements
and
I
believe
Scott's
on
the
line
as
well
to
walk
through
some
of
the
proposed
sustainable
elements
from.
K
J
K
Hear
me
hi
thanks
everyone,
so
Mom,
Scott
Bartman
with
database
plus
and
dbhms.
We've
worked
on
many
sustainability
projects
in
the
Chicagoland
area.
So
we're
really
excited
about
this
one
specifically
and
one
of
the
key
Concepts
that
was
really
important
to
the
entire
development
team
and
something
that
we
know
that's
important
to
Evanston
with
the
sustainability
and
climate
plan
is
putting
more
effort
and
emphasis
on
low
carbon
building
design.
K
So
right
out
of
the
gate,
we
knew
that
we
needed
to
look
at
an
all
electric
building
minimize
or
you
know,
just
right
right
away.
No
fossil
fuels
on
site.
Not
only
does
that
help
with
the
you
know
the
carbon
emissions
of
the
project,
but
it's
also
a
really
good
health
and
wellness
perspective
that
we're
trying
to
implement
throughout
the
building
without
combustion
that
leads
to
better
indoor
air
quality
and-
and
just
you
know,
the
the
best
possible
living
conditions
for
anyone
who's
going
to
be
in
the
building.
K
So
with
that
said,
we're
also
looking
at
how
to
create
an
at
zero
building
at
this
scale.
It
is
inherently
challenging
to
do
it
all
on
site.
So
what
we
worked
on
was
implementing
as
much
on-site
solar.
That
would
be,
you
know,
allowed
from
a
building
design
perspective
and
then
the
remainder
there.
So
any
energy
that
could
be
produced
on
site
but
was
still
being
used
by
the
building
would
be
offset
by
green
power.
K
Also
talking
a
bit
about
EV
station
and
EV
ready
infrastructure
that
that
is
an
important
consideration
here
and
then
you
know
it's
not
just
all
about
energy,
there's
other
components
of
the
sustainability
strategies
that
trickle
down
to
the
rest
of
the
building
like
bicycle
storage
and
storm
water
management
strategies,
as
well
as
energy,
star
appliances,
taking
a
look
at
how
to
get
composting
into
the
project
as
well
and
then
also
staying
true
to
the
Evanston
requests
and
requirements
as
it
pertains
to
landscape
design
and
Landscape.
Management
too.
K
We
know
that
mitigating
fossil
fuel
use
there,
as
well
as
a
high
priority
for
the
city,
so
kind
of
folding
in
all
of
the
sustainability
categories
into
this
building.
The
best
we
can
we're
using
Enterprise
green
communities
as
a
certification
and
verification
structure
and
really
just
excited
about
a
low
carbon
all-electric
building,
pass
it
off.
Thank
you.
G
G
A
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
try
my
best
to
manage
the
technology
and
the
questions
so
again,
either.
Send
me
a
direct
chat
or
use
the
tool
to
raise
your
hand
or
just
wave
your
hand
on
the
screen
and
I
will
try
to
call
on
you
as
I.
See
you
I,
see.
Dore
has
her
hand
up,
I
want
to
say
one
last
thing
if
we
need
to
if
we
need
to
go
back
to
reference
a
slide.
I
just
beg
for
your
patience
as
I,
slowly
chug
through
the
technology
to
bring
it
back
up.
L
Ahead:
okay,
Paul
I'm
on
muted
and
I,
okay,
I
have
a
few
questions.
I
know
that
with
re,
when
Reba
plays
Fellowship,
they
had
come
and
talked
to
us,
because
there
are
seven
families
that
are
going
to
be
moving
six
families
of
color
and
then
our
our
household
and
no
one.
No
one
has
still
approached
us,
told
us
what's
happening.
I
know
that
when
I
moved
there
in
1986,
the
tree
in
my
backyard
was
a
record-breaking
tree
and
I
have
I
have
some
concerns
that
there
is
a
lack
of
transparency.
L
We
have
heard
that
the
project
will
be
affordable
for
only
15
years,
Max
so
I'm
concerned,
because
no
one
has
come
and
talked
to
us
I'm
I'm
on
oxygen,
sometimes
24
7,
but
every
night
my
partner
is
ill
I'm,
a
senior
I
mean
no
one.
No
one
has
said
anything
and
we
feel
initially
we
were
told
this
was
only
going
to
be
three
stories.
I'm
concerned
that
the
developer
called
once
and
didn't,
and
also
called
my
neighbor
Kelvin
and
never
called
us
again.
He
just
wanted
to.
L
L
The
Cook
County
Housing
thing.
We
we
never
saw
the
paperwork,
we've
we've
never
been
given
anything
and
when
I
said
this
was
going
to
be
more
than
three
stories.
I
was
told
that
I
was
exaggerating
and
a
liar
I'm
sitting
here
now,
I
and
I
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know.
What's
going
on,
I
had
gotten
years
back,
a
Hud
loan
and
I
was
and
I
was
told.
I
couldn't
improve
my
home
because
this
project
was
coming.
L
I've
been
living
like
this,
since
2004
and
I've
lived
in
that
house
since
1986,
and
no
no
one's
reached
out
to
me
or
my
neighbors.
How
are
we
going
to
move?
Where
are
we
going?
What
what's
going
to
happen
to
us,
because,
obviously
we
can't
move
into
that
building
and
all
of
us
are
low
low
to
moderate
income.
A
A
L
That
that's
the
first
I've
heard
of
that,
but
I
have
been
told
that,
because
Oakton
was
mapped
out
prior
to
the
Civil
War
and
I
did
work
for
the
City
Once
Upon
a
Time,
and
if
you
look
yes,
Hinman
goes
through
Calvary
Cemetery
so
does
Forest.
So
does
Michigan,
but
I've
heard
that
my
whole
backyard's
going
to
be
gone.
I've
paid
taxes
on
that
yeah.
A
L
A
L
Well,
that's
that
has
changed
then,
and
there
is
a
post
on
my
property
that
the
City
of
Evanston
put
up
years
ago.
After
what
do
the
snow
plows
went
through
where
there
used
to
be
a
three-car
garage,
went
through
it
and
took
out
my
brand
new
vehicle,
and
it
was
put
there
to
delineate
my
property
and
then
I.
Look
at
your
plans
and
it's
totally
different.
L
B
L
A
A
L
G
We
were
trying
to
cater
to
the
RFB
to
enhance
the
community
area
and
we
were
really
exploring
how
we
could
increase
and
provide
more
units
or
enhance
the
entire
in
different
ways.
The
area
it
was
only
Concept
in
nature
and
also
to
gauge
interest
so
I
personally
reach
out
to
capitalist
cemeteries
and
then
David
Berg,
our
owner,
reached
out
to
the
I
believe
your
your
home
and
the
other
property
owner,
because
you
guys
were
immediately
next
to
our
development.
G
To
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
we
weren't
really
negotiating
purchase
prices,
but
I
he's
not
here
this
evening,
but
again
it
was
concept
and
to
gauge
interest
it
was
in
and,
as
of
today,
is
not
our
intent
to
purchase
your
properties.
You
have.
We
have
decided
to
keep
the
development
within
the
property
limits
of
the
ownership
of
the
City
of
Evanston
and
the
housing
authority
of
Cook
County
sites,
because
there's
four,
this
site
is
compromise
of
a
consolidation
of
two
sites
and
there's
four
existing
town
homes
on
the
west
and
then
so.
G
L
Okay,
well,
it
doesn't
bode
well
Johanna
when
the
people
that
are
being
most
impacted,
don't
know
that
it
doesn't
bode
well
when
I,
who
am
a
low
income
person
I'm
eligible
for
LIHEAP
when
I
applied
for
a
Hud
loan
and
then
was
told
that
the
city
was
going
to
be
developing
I
couldn't
get
the
permits.
This
has
happened
more
than
once
and
then
the
city
comes
and
actually
says.
Oh,
you
need
to
tuck
pint.
You
need
to
do
your
roof.
L
You
need
to
do
this
and
that
and
I'm
in
and
the
last
thing
I
hear
is
they're
they're
taking
my
home,
and
there
was
all
this
coveted
money
available
and
I
thought
gee
you
know,
I
could
I
could
take
that
alone.
I
could
fix.
This
I
could
fix
that
in
EV
and
for
years
now,
I've
been
hearing
they're
taking
your
home
I've
had
them
walk
through
my
yard.
They,
the
city
various
plans
and
been
told,
and
so
I'm
I'm-
really
really
really
frustrated.
Now,
because.
A
L
A
Not
going
to
see
it
expand
Beyond
this
and
the
you
might
see
a
tweak
to
the
site
plan
or
it
shrinks
it
or
you
know,
widens
or
maybe
the
the
the
setbacks
change
a
bit,
but
you're
not
going
to
see
it
go
any
further
east.
We
need
the
drive
lane
to
get
in.
We
can't
go
west
because
Catholic
cemeteries
doesn't
want
to
sell
so
there's
one
last
thing:
Dory
that
we
that
I
really
need
to
address.
H
A
F
Absolutely
so
you
know
if
it
when
the
time
comes,
that
you
know
that
we're
ready
to
move
forward
on
you
know
preparing
the
site
and
demolishing
those
four
units
we
will
offer
the
four
residents
of
the
existing
four
town.
You
know
the
four
households
and
those
existing
four
Town
Homes
moving
assistance
will
offer
to
move
them.
F
We
do
have
some
vacancies
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
maintain
enough
vacancies
within
the
remainder
of
our
Evanston
portfolio
when
the
time
comes
that
we
will
have
to
move
people
out
of
these
four
units
on
Boulevard
so
that
their
units
available
for
them
nearby
in
Evanston
that
we
own,
so
all
that
we're
doing
is
moving
them.
You
know
half
mile
away
a
mile
away
and
we
will
hire
a
relocation
expert
to
handle
this
as
well.
F
We
have
you
know,
they'll,
be
a
professional
that
this
is
what
they
do
day
in
and
day
out,
we'll
meet
with
all
four
households
figure
out
their
needs.
What's
special,
you
know
considerations
they
may
have
and
where
they
want
to
move
and
how
they
want
to
move,
and
we
will
pay
for
all
moving
expenses
and
costs.
So
really
it's
you
know
very
hands-off
from
the
perspective
of
the
household.
We
are
required
by
law
to
provide
all
of
these
services
and
those
assistance.
Really
it's.
You
know
somebody
will
show
up
and
say
Hey.
F
A
M
M
There
was
a
lot
of
issues
that
caused
concerns,
so
I
called
the
city
and
I
made
sure
that
there
was
at
least
some
patching
done
there
if
it
hasn't
been
done
there
for
years
now,
there's
trailers
and
campers
in
there
park
it
could
have
been
utilized
a
long
time
ago,
but
the
way
it's
going
about
now
is
that
that
was
my
that's.
My
green
space
I
only
have
Western
exposure
at
my
house.
M
The
windows
are
face
Western,
so
the
only
sunlight
that
I
get
and
the
only
real
exposure,
Green
Space,
that
I
got
is
from
that
from
the
Western
exposure.
So
if
you
have
a
five-story
building
construction,
where,
as
if
you
look
down
north
of
Hinman,
all
the
buildings
sit
back
at
least
20
to
25
feet
from
the
the
sidewalk
or
from
the
the
the
park.
M
The
parkway,
if
you
put
a
five-story
building
next
to
a
two-story
building
that
can
completely
condemn
my
green
space
and
condemn
my
property
value
that
I
maintain
and-
and
it
was
Weeds
over
here
before
there's
no,
the
trees
were
the
bushes.
It
was
nothing
there
with
this
rut,
now
I've
developed
that
and
paid
taxes
on
that
for
over
23
years,
and
now
that's
being
taken
away
from
me.
M
The
the
city
wanted
to
put
a
new
Cobblestone
or
a
slate
rock
or
whatever
the
pavers
are
in
the
front
10
20
215
years
ago
they
were
going
to
cut
back
four
feet
to
allow
cars
to
park.
It
would
have
killed
all
the
trees
going
down,
South
Boulevard,
but
I
maintained.
My
stance
and
I
may
tell
you
that
I
made
sure
that
the
green
space
in
the
the
the
green,
the
trees
were
not
going
to
be
damaged.
I,
don't
think
the
engineers
are
taking
the
effect.
M
It's
going
to
have
on
my
health
in
my
building
in
my
green
space
and
the
cost
of
my
you
know
what
I
paid
or
my
real
estate
I
think
I'm
gonna
lose
a
lot
of
equity
here,
so
I
think
my
question
is:
what
are
you
going
to
do
for
my
you
know
Health.
What
are
you
going
to
do
for
my
property
value,
I'm
being
pushed
out
practically
all.
A
M
M
So
the
five
stories
Jason,
if
you
go
like
I,
said,
if
you
go
down
North
your
three-story
units,
they
can
absorb
that
design.
You
know
that
that
structure,
because
they're
all
the
same
height
I'm,
not
the
same
height
as
those
buildings
going
on
South,
Boulevard
and
my
property
is
further
east
I
mean
further
west
of
Hinman.
Then
the
property's
going
down
north
of
South
Boulevard
on
Henry.
M
A
J
J
As
far
as
we
can
go
within
our
setback,
knowing
that
that
building
to
the
West
is
a
more
commercial
type,
building
a
whole
Buster
impact
and
then
creating
as
large
as
buffer
as
we
can
I
think
I
said
it's
about
55
feet
currently
between
the
property
line
and
our
building,
and
then
our
building
is
set.
You
know,
as
far
north,
you
know
kind
of
as
we're
comfortable
just
to
kind
of
maintain
again
the
Southern
Exposure
for
for
natural
light.
M
J
M
J
J
A
H
A
M
No
at
this
point
no
I
I
just
want
to
see
the
the
lot
line
and
where,
where
it
stands,
I
did
with
the
ray
we
did
get
a
call.
I
got
a
call
and
I
spoke
with
the
developer
and
you
he
mentioned,
making
an
offer,
which
is
my
assess,
assessment
value.
Yeah
I
mean
I
I.
Think
that's
not.
You
know
that
that's
not
appropriate.
You
know
we
had
all
come
out
of
this.
You
know
making
each
other
not
have
any
burnt
Bridges
or
you
know
how
they
say.
M
G
Calvin
I
apologize
that
he's
not
here
present
I
also
represent
with
the
developer
I
apologize.
If
there
was
some
miscommunications
there,
I
don't
think
that
was
the
intent
to
really
set
a
purchase
price
or
a
purchase
goal
with
the
properties.
We
were
trying
to
gauge
interest,
as
we
were,
trying
to
again
get
the
product
to
further
than
concept,
and
as
of
now
again,
we
don't
have
the
intent
to
purchase
your
Properties
or
include
them
in
the
property
limits
of
the
development.
So
we
obviously
will
sit
down
with
you
work
with.
G
L
A
L
Because
I
I
have
talked
to
former
people
in
the
city
that
put
up
that
that
poll.
That's
on
my
property
yeah,
including
I,
mean
Rick
Foss
from
parking
was
involved
in
that
the
police
department
was
involved
in
that
planning
which
I
used
to
work
for
was
involved
in
that
and
I
see
these
other
marks.
So
just
the
emotional
stress
not
knowing
one
way
or
other
and
the
the
way
both
Kelvin
and
I
were
approached
left
well,
I'll
get
back
to
you
and
you
know
he
like
he.
L
He
called
up
and
basically
treated
us
like
he
wasn't
very
kind,
and
we
have
heard
our
we've
heard,
City
staff
and
say
refer
to
our
place.
This
is
shanties,
I
mean
you're,
building,
affordable
housing
and
you're,
forcing
out
you're
you're,
making
people
move,
and
even
the
people,
even
the
people
in
the
housing
project,
Cook
County,
Housing
Authority
doesn't
own
any
other
places
where
there's
fenced
in
yards
like
that
for
children
and
Kelvin
and
I.
L
If
it
was
a
reasonable
price,
we
would
have
been
willing,
perhaps
to
have
moved.
If
you
know
to
have
green
space,
I
mean
I
had
been
told
that
you
know
and
I'd
spoken
to
Melissa
and
other
people,
that,
in
order
for
the
fire
trucks
and
the
cemetery
to
move
that,
my
house
was
was
going
and
I
I've
just
lived
under
that
stress
and
I
I
put
that
I
put
that
back
on
you
I
mean
I.
Look
at
the
plans.
I
read
I
know
how
to
read
blueprints.
A
Okay,
yeah
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry
that
you
did
not
know
that
we
were
not
interested
in
acquiring
your
property
and
that
we're
going
to
design
it
completely
on
our
lot.
I
hope
we
will
let
but
let's
let's
try
to
collaborate
and
and
move
beyond
that.
Let's
look
forward
and
again
I
I,
hear
I,
hear
what
you're
saying
I
I
want
to
follow
up
with
you
and
Calvin
and
have
a
dialogue
that
we
can
spend
more
time
one-on-one
with
your
initial
individual
issues,
I.
M
Okay,
okay,
so
with
with
the
with
that
design,
you
know
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not
an
engineer,
but
you
know:
I
I've
been
in
construction
a
long
time,
so
I
know
that
the
type
of
peers
and
the
type
of
foundation
us
that
you
have
to
put
there
is
going
to
retract.
It's
gonna
require
some
driving
in
piles
and
Piers
into
the
ground.
I,
don't
think
my
my
house
can
consist
this
house
is
built
in
1920.
I.
M
A
H
A
A
Don't
know
exactly
how
that
works,
but
that
is
part
of
the
entire
process,
but
I'm
not
dismissing
you
I
I,
that's
a
that's
a
concern
that
needs
to
be
registered
and
and
we'll
have
it
as
part
of
the
one-on-ones
that
we
have,
but
also
as
part
of
the
complete
construction
plan.
This
you
know,
there's
a
project
going
up
on
the
Vogue
property
on
Main,
Street
and
I
want
to
quickly
get
to
Joan,
but
there's
a
1880s
building
on
the
lot
line
on
two
of
the
lot
lines-
and
you
know
there
was
some
pile
driving
happening.
A
H
N
First
of
all,
I
do
want
to
say
I
cut
through
the
cemetery
for
my
walk,
Mr
Lynn,
if
that
is
your
house
with
the
gorgeous
funky
Green
Space
and
art,
that
is
so
cool,
and
that
would
be
a
loss
for
me
if,
if
you
and
duray
moved,
that
would
be
a
loss
to
my
neighborhood.
So
that
being
said,
my
first
two
questions
were
about
other
sites
that
were
considered
and
I,
don't
know
at
what
point
in
the
RFP
that
would
have
occurred.
N
So
if
you
can
hold
on
to
that
question
and
then
I
was
also
curious.
I
know
there
was
a
site
and
a
lot
of
prod
protest
next
to
the
Housing
Authority
spot
up
the
senior
housing
in
Northeast
Evanston
on
Noy,
Street
and
I'm,
wondering
if
you
know
we
were
the
lucky
beneficiary
of
an
active
community
that
rejected
it
up
there.
N
So
those
are
those
two
questions,
but
in
terms
of
living
around
construction
to
Mr,
Lynn's
point
and
Dory
Spark,
we
you
guys
who
have
garages
who
don't
live
in
a
highly
highly
dense
area
in
terms
of
a
population
have
no
idea
how
bad
our
parking
is
to
begin
with
on
the
street.
So
I
have
to
pay
every
month
to
park
in
the
private
lot
across
the
street.
That
I
understand
you've
probably
chosen
this
one,
because
people
don't
use
it
or
don't
know
about
it.
N
L
Twice
twice
in
three
days:
Calvin
and
I
had
to
run
out
of
our
houses,
render
first
aid.
We
we
asked
for
them
to
put
more
traffic
calming
things
in
the
parking
lot.
Another
neighbor
pushed
two
children
out
of
the
way.
As
the
car
came
around
the
corner,
he
was
hit.
The
children's
bicycles
were
broken.
It's.
A
N
The
South
Boulevard
and
the
one
directly
north
of
keaney
from
keaney
to
Kedzie.
They
go
straight
through
right,
they'll
start
at
South
Boulevard
and
that's
their
access.
Now,
at
least
there
are
speed
bumps
down
on
the
South
Boulevard
area
and
next
to
that
cute
little
park,
and
they
they
there's
some
speed
bumps,
but
they'll
go
through
there,
zip
across
keaney
and
zip
up
my
alley,
and
let's
talk
about
that
alley
too,
with
the
only
the
renters
in
Omni
right.
N
So
this
is
not
a
class
debate,
because
these
are
extra
Posh
renters
in
the
only
place
they're
coming
out
with
their
dogs.
Their
dogs
are
urinating
on
our
buildings
right
by
our
doors,
they're
leading
the
dog
excrement.
Some
are
picking
it
up.
Some
are
not
and
again
we
have
a
lot
of
renters
even
on
Hinman
I'm,
a
condo
owner,
oh
I'm,
sorry
I
didn't
do
my
background.
Grew
up
in
Evanston,
Saint,
A's,
eths
left
came
back
to
take
care
of
my
sick
parents
and
bought
a
condo
fully
owned
up
here
on
Hindman.
N
That's
my
background,
so
long
time,
evanstonian
and
worked
for
cha
believe
in
public
housing,
but
the
nonsense.
I'm
hearing
now
about
public
housing
and
moving
vouchers,
you
know
what
please
don't
treat
us
like
we're
boo-boo
heads
because
I
know
what
happened
after
1999.,
but
you
know
right
now
we're
dealing
with
dogs
way
too
many
dogs,
because
there's
way
too
much
density,
and
you
know
what
the
dogs
are
breeding,
because
no
one
picks
up
after
them.
Rats.
We
have
a
horrific
rat
problem
right
now.
N
A
Yeah
I,
so
I
think
think.
Thank
you.
So
there's
a
few
things.
You
said
that
I
think
we
can
that
I
can
take
back
to
my
team
that
manages
traffic
that
manages
trash
in
the
alleys
and
manages
speeding
right.
Those
are
things
that
council,
member,
Winn
and
I
can
work
with
some
of
the
directors
here
and.
N
But
it's
fact
that
I
have
to
pay
for
the
parking
and,
let's
be
honest,
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
are
so
frustrating
behind
my
condo
people
just
moving
in
and
out
and
parking
right
in
the
middle
of
the
alley.
Right.
Another
thing
about
density
and
you
you
respectfully,
no,
you
can't
call
the
Evanston
Police
Department
we're
20
people
down
and
our
crime
is
rising.
Do
you
want
to
know
how
ridiculous
I
would
feel
to
call?
Because
a
truck
driver
is
blocking
the
alley
when
someone's
getting
mugged
some
other
place
in
the?
A
A
You
no,
if
I,
listen,
I,
appreciate
all
the
things
you
said:
it's
a
quality
of
life
issue,
I
lived
at
710,
hin,
men
next
door
to
you
or
two
doors
down
from
you
for
eight
years
or
so
I
I'm,
definitely
familiar
with
the
density
and
I
would
encourage
you.
Please
call
the
police
when
you
see
that
it's
they
I
know
they're
down,
it
might
take
a
little
longer
to
get
there
but
and
I
know.
A
We've
had
an
uptick
in
in
some
of
the
other
serious
crime,
but
they're,
not
all
out
fighting
serious
crime
at
all
minute
I
mean
we're.
Our
town
is
doing
very
well,
despite
all
the
challenges
facing
the
world
right
now.
So
please,
please!
Let
us
try
to
help
you
the
quality
of.
Please,
don't
think
that
you
can't
call
us
because
we're
down
staff
you
need
to.
Please
just
call
if
you
don't
call
9-1-1
on
something
like
that.
Just
call
the
General
line.
A
I
would
also
without
trying
to
cause
a
debate
here,
because
I
think,
by
the
way
we
are
still
not
even
technically
in
the
public
process,
yet
right.
So
next
step.
Well,
we'll
recap
in
a
few
minutes,
but
we
have
to
wrap
up
we'll
recap
what
the
process
is:
I
want
to
just
touch
on
something
before
I
read
a
couple
more
comments.
A
There
is
I,
know
doray
and
Kelvin
and
and
the
neighbors
surrounding
the
property
even
up
to
the
the
mid-block
of
Hinman
there.
There
is
a
certain
sacrifice,
that's
implied
in
in
this
proposal
right
at
the
end
of
it
when
it
opens
in
2025
we're
hoping
that
we
will
be
serving
individuals
who
may
actually
already
live
here
or
who
maybe
have
grown
up
here
and
are
looking
for
housing,
but
they
can't
afford
it
because
they're
a
public
servant
or
a
teacher
or
or
whatever
level
of
income.
They
are
with
this
sacrifice.
A
For
18
months
of
noise
will
result
in
60
people
or
60
units
based
on
demographics.
That's
probably
75
to
80
people,
there's
a
few
three
bedroom
units
too,
but
let's
not
get
into
that.
What
I'm
saying
is,
there's
a
sacrifice
that
we
all
can
and
kind
of
struggle
through
some
more
than
others
to
allow
people
to
live
here.
Affordably,
so
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
that's
our
goal
with
this
project
and
we'll
talk
about
that
more
as
a
community
and
I'm
not
suggesting.
A
L
I've
complained
that
they
weren't
even
rat
rat
baiting
baiting
in
our
area,
but
I
mean
I
all
ever
since
this
project
was
proposed,
the
cemetery
guys
came
and
told
me
that
they
were
told
to
cut
down
all
of
our
our
community
community
garden.
There
I
can
walk
down
the
street
and
show
where
there's
sunflowers
that
are
growing
but
I
couldn't
have
sunflowers
I
had
someone
come
out
from
the
city
and
was
I
was
told,
I
have
too
many
plants
and
I
could
grow.
L
What's
not
I
mean
I,
feel
personally
harassed
and
stressed
I'm
all
for
affordable
housing.
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
to
have
but
to
be
be
harassed,
I
mean
I,
know
about
companion
planning
I
mean
when
Melissa
first
ran
for
alderman.
She
listed
the
fact
that
I
was
conservation,
fair
for
Chicago
Audubon.
That
I
was
on
the
board
of
Sierra
Club
and
not
only
just
locally
I
I.
You
know
nationally
and
to
be
told
and
have
the
City
come
out.
L
L
There
are
no
Vines
by
my
house
anymore
and
I
asked
the
cemetery
and
they
told
me
that
they
were
told
by
you
to
come
and
take
down
all
our
stuff
so
that
that's
why
you're
getting
that
reaction,
I
I'm,
certainly
for
affordable
housing,
I'm,
I'm,
low
income
and
I
also
want
to
know.
How
long
is
this
housing
going
to
to
be
affordable,
for
we
were
told
that
it's
eventually
going
to
go
market
rate.
L
A
L
A
Yeah,
okay,
Lisa.
Sorry,
let
me
see
Lisa
Kuklinski
had
a
few
questions
I'd
like
to
to
read
on
her
behalf:
okay,
yes
I'm,
going
to
try
to
get
you
these
questions,
we'll
give
it
a
few
more
minutes.
Okay,
how
many
of
the
units
will
be
affordable
to
those
at
30
40,
50
Johanna?
Did
you
talk
about
that,
or
is
that
that's
is
that
part
of
the
finance
the
the
capital,
the
stack
that
we
we
have?
You
still
have
to
figure
out
with
the
state.
Can
you
talk
talk
about
that.
G
G
A
H
A
A
No,
the
the
res
that
that's.
Let
me
restate
that
we
intentionally
put
lot
one
up
for
an
RFP
after
a
community
process
prior
based
on
the
growing
need
for
affordable
housing,
and
we
compared
it
to
the
utilization
of
that
parking
lot
from
a
percentage
lease.
So
that's
why
we
chose
lot
one
as
the
the
first
kind
of
example.
A
D
The
Housing
Authority
had
presented
a
concept
of
doing
a
second
building
on
at
2300
noise
Court,
which
is
the
walcher
senior
housing
development
that
wasn't
even
presented
till
well
after
we
were
already
in
the
process
of
the
RFP
for
this
property.
I
do
want
to
point
out
a
really
nut.
Another
important
part
of
this
site
Choice
was
this
is
in
partnership
with
the
Housing
Authority.
They
want
to
be
able
to
develop
their
property
to
provide
more
affordable
housing
as
well.
D
The
the
tenants
will
pay
30
percent
of
their
income
and
the
rest
of
it
will
be
paid
for
by
the
voucher.
So
this
will
have
some
of
the
most
deeply
affordable
housing,
but
also
go
up
and
cover
a
wide
range
of
incomes
of
people
who
simply
can't
afford
to
live
and
work
in
Evanston,
and
that
was
one
of
the
goals
as
well
to
provide
housing
for
people
who
may
work
here
but
can't
afford
to
live
here.
Yeah.
A
D
One
other
note:
there
is
another
project
that
actually
has
already
gotten
its
tax
credits,
that
is
at
1805
Church
Street,
which
was
a
abandoned.
Well,
it
was
a
it
was.
It
was
a
vacant
lot,
but
it
in
the
past.
It
you
know,
was
developed,
but
that
is
a
property
that
the
city
Acquired
and
that
was
put
out
for
an
RFP
and
Housing
Opportunity.
Development
Corporation
is
developing
that
in
conjunction
with
the
Mount
Pisgah
Church,
because
they
are
simultaneously
rebuilding
their
church
or
expanding
their
church,
so
that
it's.
A
Thank
you
for
sharing
that,
because
that's
that's
another
really
important
project
I,
see
really
quick.
I,
see
Carl
Klein's
hand
is
up.
Kelvin
mentioned
that
we
should
really
I'm
paraphrasing,
really
spend
some
time
understanding
traffic
patterns
to
make
sure
we
limit
traffic
hazards
accidents.
Things
like
that
I
believe
you've
done
a
traffic
study
that
will
be
discussed
as
we
go
through
the
zoning
process.
I
Sure
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
comment
and
say
that
I
think
that
the
city
needs
to
commit
to
building
affordable
housing
and
placing
it
in
all
nine
Wards
of
the
city,
and
so
I
do
appreciate
that
there
is
an
attempt
to
build
affordable
housing
in
on
the
south
east
corner
of
the
city.
However,
I
do
have
some
concerns
with
this
project
and
I.
I
Do
wonder
if
you
all
ever
did
consider
using
a
community
land,
trust
or
Community
land
bank
so
that
the
housing
could
be
affordable
in
perpetuity,
because
the
city
of
evanston's,
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
only
requires
that
the
units
in
the
building
have
to
be
affordable
for
30
years,
and
then
they
revert
to
market
rate.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
would
also
ask
you
Carl,
if
you,
if
you
can
think
of
a
site
in
various
areas,
that
that
would
be
ideal
for
it.
I
appreciate
your
input
on
it,
but
I
will
I
will
just
share
that
Sarah
and
I
do
spend
time
together
trying
to
find
other
sites
Johanna
or
Sarah.
Can
you
address
this
issue
of
the
length
of
time
or
even
Jesse
how
long
something
remains
affordable
and
maybe
Sarah
you
talk
about
City
policy
related
to
that,
and
then
we
probably
have
to
wrap
it
up.
D
D
That
program
has
a
30-year
affordability
period,
but
you
need
to
realize
that
payroll
is
an
affordable,
housing,
developer
and
owner.
They
do
market
rate
as
well,
but
they
own
and
hold
and
are
committed
to
affordable
housing,
as
is
the
Housing
Authority,
as
I
talked
about
how
they're
going
to
be
involved
in
providing
project-based
vouchers
to
support
even
a
lower
income
than
just
putting
it
an
income
level
at
50
or
30
percent.
So
this
is
a
commitment
from
organizations
that
are
committed
to
maintaining
affordable
housing.
D
One
of
the
reasons
there
is
a
period
of
time
that
is
limited
is
that
one
of
the
challenges
is
getting
financing
after
a
building's
been
in
service.
For
that
period
of
time,
you
generally
have
to
do
a
significant
rehab
and
one
of
the
things
that
this
facilitates
for
the
we
have
developers.
It's
you
know
payroll
hodc,
cipa
Reba
place.
These
are.
These.
D
Are
organizations
committed
to
affordable
housing,
they
need
to
be
able
to
get
their
financing
at
that
point,
to
do
rehabs
to
maintain
the
quality
of
the
housing
as
well
as
keeping
it
affordable.
So
that's
really
how
that
structure
is
set
up
Johanna,
you
probably
have
even
more
information
on
it
than
I
am
trying
to
make
it
sort
of
at
a
Layman's
level.
No.
G
Sarah,
thank
you.
That
was
exactly
accurate.
The
financing
program
we're
going
through
we'll
have
a
30-year
affordability
and
HACC
I
want
to
mention.
We
are
lucky
to
have
partnered
with
the
housing
authority
of
Luke
County,
and
also
that
these
sites
are
owned
by
the
city
and
the
hack,
because
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
we
have
I
mean
we
are
all
for
integrated
house
in
all
areas.
We
truly
believe
it
makes
income
development.
G
We
have
great
success
and
we
are
half
development
right
now
in
Lincoln
Park,
where
we're
trying
to
really
find
sites
to
maximize
Blended
housing
with
Mercury
units
and
also
all
income
levels.
We
see
where
we
think
developments
will
Thrive,
but
the
challenge
usually
is
is
the
values
of
these
properties
in
Evanston,
it's
a
highly
regarded
highly
value
property.
So
we're
very
thankful
that
we
can
work
on
a
site,
that's
owned
by
the
city,
and
how
can
we
can
make
this
project
happen?
G
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
what
I'd
like
to
say
in
in
kind
of
closing
I'm,
gonna
I'm
gonna,
do
this
one
more
time:
bad
technology,
the
the
timeline
I,
can
get
it
a
little
larger
for
you,
The
Next
Step
for
us
in
our
public
process,
Johanna,
Kade
or
Sarah.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
you
have
to
submit
your
zoning
analysis.
Correct,
Joanna,.
G
A
I
I
do
balance
a
lot
of
different
activities
and
I
do
have
a
small
staff
that
can
better
help
me
if
I,
if
I
delegate,
but
you
know
we'll
update
our
website
as
as
as
we
can
and
and
again,
I
don't
want
to
start
a
conversation
over,
but
Dore
and
Kelvin.
We're
gonna
have
a
separate
meeting
with
you
to
check
in
on
some
of
the
more
specific
matters
related
to
your
site,
but
pay
attention
to
the
zoning
analysis.
A
If
you
follow
local
newspapers,
both
the
round
table
has
stepped
up
their
game
they're.
Doing
really
strong.
On
reporting
on
Community
Development
initiatives
that
will
enter
the
system
soon,
whenever
Johanna
submits
it,
you'll,
probably
see
an
Evanston
now
article
with
a
picture
of
the
project
and
that
that
zoning
analysis
process
takes
a
few
weeks
for
staff
to
really
step
through
it,
and
then
it
starts
entering
the
the
the
committee
process
we'll
find
out
later
and
later
on.
A
A
Thank
you
for
remaining
civil
tonight.
Like
you
know,
we've
got
we've
got
to
work
together
to
get
through
this
and
I
think
we
will
but
I
appreciate
that
a
lot
we
had
a
lot
of
members
on
this
call
who
were
eager
to
hear
answers
to
questions,
and
they
they
asked
me
to
keep
the
meeting
moving
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I
want
to
as
I
always
do.
I
always
want
to
give
council
members
the
last
word
and
I
I'm
going
to
say
my
last
words.