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C
B
A
Great,
we
have
we'll
start
with
the
minutes.
Would
somebody
like
to
move
the
minutes.
A
C
F
C
G
I
guess
then
the
question:
is
there
an
explanation
for
the
public?
Why
there
aren't
minutes.
B
Due
to
Staffing
shortages
and
the
length
of
the
last
meeting,
it
was
taking
longer
than
we
anticipate
the
pair
of
the
minutes.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Okay,
we'll
now
move
to
public
comment
and
we'll
begin
with
in
Person
Public
comment,
starting
with
Mr
Charles
Smith.
H
Thank
you,
I.
Will
one
of
the
items
tonight
on
the
on
the
agenda
is
the
lease
for
Jen's
Jensen
Gardens
in
Evanston,
and
that
would
be
a
direct
lease
with
the
organization
for
the
grounds
and
Coach
House
at
Harley
Clark.
H
We
have
many
many
donors
and
many
many
volunteers
who
have
who
have
worked
down
there
and
have
contributed
to
the
plants
and
trees
we
have
planted
and
we
think
of
those
donors,
as
investors
and
investors,
expect
a
return
on
their
investment.
I
think
the
return
that
our
investors
are
looking
for
is
a
refurbished
Jens,
Jensen
landscape,
a
beautiful
landscape
and
park
to
be
enjoyed
by
the
community
and
a
coach
house
that
provides
programs
that
promote
the
interests
of
this
community
in
in
the
environment.
In
order
to
accomplish
those
things
they
take
a
lot
of
time.
H
The
kind
of
landscape
that
we
envision
will
require
a
landscape
architect
that
will
work
with
both
the
plant
material
and
the
structural
part
of
the
of
the
landscape
and
and
a
architect
to
work
on
the
building,
to
make
sure
that
it's
everything
that
we
want
needed
to
be
those
things
take
take
investment
of
money.
They
also
take
investment
of
time
from
the
neighborhood
and
other
interested
people
into
helping
us
to
determine
what
the
final
product
will
be.
So
those
things
take
a
lot
of
time
and
then
landscape
is
one
of
those
things.
H
It's
not
like
a
building.
You
don't
build
a
landscape
and
then
look
back
and
walk
away
and
go
wow.
That's
nice!
A
landscape
is
very
Dynamic
and
takes
a
long
time
to
evolve.
It's
obvious
that
the
trees
we
plant
down
there
will
be
baby
trees
when
I'm
gone,
and
so
we
have
a
visual
dream,
an
imaginary
dream
in
our
heads
or
what
it
will
be
at
some
point
in
the
future.
H
But
the
implementation
of
a
landscape
requires
you
know,
digging
the
dirt
planting,
planting
gardens
and
trees.
That
will
all
kind
of
be
in
various
stages
of
maturity.
Over
a
period
of
time,
so
we
all
we
ask
is
that
you
help
us
to
not
disappoint
our
investors.
H
I
A
partnership
between
jjge
and
another
party
will
increase
the
likelihood
of
successful
outcome
for
this
completely
unique
Evanston
treasure
leash
negotiations
are
already
underway
and
can
be
successfully
completed
with
direction
from
you
all.
Please
do
the
right
thing
approve
the
action
proposed
vote
Yes
for
JJ
G
Easley's.
I
J
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
was
glad
to
see
item
D1
was
on
the
agenda
tonight
for
the
animal
shelter
update,
but
I
expected
more
in
the
way
of
a
packet
information.
There
was
really
nothing
new
other
than
some
new
dates
about
the
bids
and
bids
are
due
tomorrow
and
staff
will
come
back
on
the
13th.
But
what
was
missing?
What
I
thought
was
going
to
be?
There
was
a
complete
summary
of
all
the
costs
that
have
been
spent
to
date:
You
Know,
aeps
What's,
the
total.
J
J
It
was
supposed
to
be
an
extension
to
the
county
Grant
documentation
so
that
we
didn't
lose
the
grant
money
so
I'm,
hoping
that
was
taken
care
of
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
the
fundraising
since
everybody's
having
trouble
with
their
fundraising
easa
like
to
know
how
much
money
they've
actually
gathered.
J
I
keep
I've
asked
before
I.
Guess
I'd
like
to
know
what
what
has
the
city
council
formally
voted
on
in
the
way
of
a
total
cost
for
this
project,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
didn't
get
blended
into
that
budget
number.
So
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
total
that
the
city
council
has
formally
voted
on
for
this
project,
including
temporary
shelter,
fees
for
dogs
and
cats
and
the
financing
that's
going
to
cost
to
borrow
the
money.
J
What
the
contingencies
are
and
also
the
solar
panel
system
I
keep
hearing
about,
and
maybe
councilmember
and
wisma
can
explain
what
that
is
and
what
it's
going
to
be,
because
I
look
at
the
documents
that
were
in
the
on
the
bid
and
procure
proposals
website.
There
are
thousands
and
thousands
of
specifications
and
lots
of
drawings,
the
appearance
of
it
being
very
thorough,
but
I
didn't
see
anything
related
to
solar
panels
or
Provisions
for
solar
panels
or
how
that
system
is
going
to
work.
J
So
I'm
confused
by
that
you
know
the
fixtures,
the
furniture
any
other
loose
equipment.
That's
supposed
to
be
blended
into
this
budget.
So
just
a
total
summary
of
costs
is
what
I
was
looking
for
and
then
I
understand.
The
solar
panel
system
is
a
third
party
system
who
are
those
people?
Have
they
been
hired?
What's
going
to
be
on
the
building?
How
does
that
benefit
the
city?
What
are
we
paying
for
that?
Monthly
fees
and.
J
A
A
Okay,
next
Sean
Sharon,
I'm,
sorry,
Sharon,
Fagan,.
K
Hi
I'm
Sharon,
Fagan,
longtime,
Evanston
resident
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
Jen's
Jensen
Garden
lease
the
garden
group
is
thoughtful
organized
it
has.
A
good
plan
has
been
working
toward
revitalizing
the
land
around
Harley
Clark
Mansion.
For
several
years
now
there
is
a
prospectus,
that's
been
written
that
lays
out
the
vision,
there's
a
plan
for
the
repairs
needed
for
the
Coach
House,
which
are
not
actually
very
extensive.
K
Overall,
it's
in
good
shape.
A
survey
has
been
done.
Historians
who
specialize
in
Jensen
have
been
consulted.
Past
groundskeepers
of
the
site
have
been
thoroughly
interviewed
and
engaged
their
photos
of
the
original
landscape.
There's
the
original
plan
and
there's
a
draft
lease
that
is
modeled
on
other
leases
in
effect
in
Evanston
for
other
grounds,.
K
And
so
everything
is
really
ready
to
go
they're
strong
relationships
with
Community
institutions,
with
the
schools,
with
the
environmental
Association
and
others
to
get
classes
and
training
programs
underway,
and,
as
it
has
been
mentioned,
there
are
a
lot
of
interested
donors.
We
believe
we
can
raise
all
the
funds
needed
to
get
the
project
underway
this
summer.
If
we
have
a
signed
lease
soon,
and
this
will
save
money
for
the
City
of
Evanston
and
at
the
same
time,
beautify.
K
The
area
Jen's
Jensen
was
the
primary
landscape
architect
of
many
public
parks
and
has
an
international
reputation
and
it's
kind
of
remarkable
that
he
was
involved
here
in
Evanston
in
this
corner
of
of
the
city.
So,
while
I
know
the
tendency
of
some
of
you
is
to
put
everything
on
hold
because
the
Harley
Clark
Mansion
is
no
longer
going
to
be
the
book
arts
project
I'm
here
to
say
think
about
the
garden
and
getting
it
underway.
K
If
the
grounds
are
appealing,
if
the
community
is
engaged
there,
it'll
just
make
it
more
appealing
and
Jen's
Jensen
Gardens
understands
that
there
needs
to
be
flexibility,
that
the
project
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
new
project
and,
of
course,
they'll
need
easy
access
to
the
building.
There
may
be
a
cafe
and
Terrace
all
these
different
things
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
long
time.
Plants
can
be
moved.
K
L
L
L
I'm
concerned
about
this,
because
I
did
a
lot
of
economic
impact
studies
during
my
career
and
there's
elements
of
it
that
are
not
don't
appear
to
be
in
the
study
that
Northwestern
did
and
by
the
way,
Northwestern
won't
release
their
study
and
their
methodology,
their
data
underlying
data.
They
say
it's
proprietary,
but
this
is
a
public
forum,
and
this
is
a
public
issue
and
the
City
of
Evanston
should
get
that
study
and
I
would
like
to
look
at
it.
L
L
L
Literature
on
this
topic
on
the
topic
of
Mega
events
or
stadiums
in
cities
and
the
the
consensus
of
that
literature
is
it's
either
a
negative
to
a
city
or
it's
actually
could
be
zero
or
very
tiny.
It
is
not
the
big
numbers
that
Northwestern
put
out
there.
I
just
want
to
read
one
quote
from
one
of
the
studies:
Professor
bod,
who
is
at
Lake
Forest
College
I,
spoke
to
him
today.
New
stadiums,
Arenas
and
franchises,
as
well
as
Mega
events,
appear
to
be
as
likely
to
reduce
taxable
sales
as
increase
them.
L
In
other
words,
they
could
reduce
taxes
in
tax
revenue
in
Evanston
over
the
years
and
this
so
that's
why
it's
an
alarming
thing:
it's
not
a
hard
thing
to
look
at
Northwestern
study
unless
they
keep
it
secret
and
if
they
do
the
City
of
Evanston,
it
hasn't
done
their
due
diligence
to
allow
something
like
a
zoning.
Whatever
is
called
change
or
variance,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
M
Thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone
so
I'd
like
to
address
again
concerns
about
the
budget
going
from
293
million.
Can
you
hear
me
to
360
million
last
year
to
almost
400
million
this
year?
M
The
last
city
council
meeting
two
weeks
ago,
Mike
fasilko,
sent
me
an
email
of
probably
a
dozen
questions
on
the
budget.
The
only
answer
that
I
remember
hearing
was
that
the
the
amount
that
was
mentioned
was
not
during
the
holidays,
but
all
the
rest
of
the
questions
that
he
asked
I,
don't
believe
were
answered.
So
we
need
answers
to
our
to
our
public
comment
questions.
M
So
maybe
we
can
have
a
person
that
you're
hiring
just
to
address
public
comments,
because
I've
been
talking
about
this
for
four
or
five
years
now,
and
we
don't
have
any
response
to
public
comment
and
it's
just
you
know,
are
we
spinning
our
wheels?
Are
we
wasting
our
time
coming
up
here
and
speaking?
You
know
every
other
week
and
talking
about
our
concerns.
M
They
need
to
be
addressed.
1.1
million
dollars
you
have
on
the
budget
for
Robert
Crown.
Why
are
we
spending
1.1
million
for
Robert
Crown?
M
It
says
Construction
I
thought
construction
was
over,
I
was
told
they
need
to
replace
windows
for
I,
don't
know
fifty
thousand
dollars.
Why
are
we
spending
money
on
Robert
Crown
after
we
just
spent
50
million
dollars
on
it?
It's
in
the
budget,
it's
in
the
budget,
1.1
million.
M
So
how?
How
much
does
it
actually
cost
to
keep
Robert
Crown
open?
How
much
are
we
spending
on
on
repairs
on
employees
on
you
know
the
maintenance,
the
utilities
you
know
we're
spending
millions
of
dollars
like
their
hundred
dollar
bills
and
I,
don't
see
how
this
is
sustainable
for
for
us,
so
I
it.
We
need
to
have
a
plan.
M
I
I
know
you
come
up
with
a
plan
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
but
does
the
budget
that
400
million
dollar
close
to
it
is
that
what
our
income
is
going
to
support,
because
we're
borrowing
money
every
single
year,
I
mean
seems
like
every
other
month
we
have
new
general
obligation
bonds.
Our
general
obligation
bonds
went
up
from
200
from
100
million
to
200
million.
C
M
D
Yes,
I'm
Brian
bacharis
and
thank
you
very
much
and
good
evening
to
the
members
of
the
administration
and
Public
Works
committee,
I'm
I'm,
coming
up
coming
again
as
a
concerned,
citizen
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
additional
and
Rising
costs
of
some
of
the
projects.
Here
and
recently
you
know
the
renovation
and
or
replacement
of
the
animal
shelter
at
6.3
million
dollars.
I've
commented
before
and
like
some
of
the
people
who
are
commenting
before
me
tonight
about
the
unsustainability
of
these
very
expensive
projects
and
it.
D
What
what
occurs
to
me
is
that
we're
now
adding
717
thousand
dollars
for
phase
one
to
to
renovate
or
repair
the.
What
was
formerly
the
recycling
center
is
now
the
municipal
storage
facility,
and
on
top
of
that
we
have
sold
a
property
in
downtown
Evanston
on
Central
Street.
Formerly
a
public
library
and
I
thought
that
money
would
be
earmarked
for
another
Public
Library
in
an
award
that
was
more
more
fifth
in
the
Fifth
Ward
somewhere.
We
can
give
people
more
opportunity
to
attend.
D
You
know,
use
a
library
facility
and
then
we're
going
to
have
another
additional
163
thousand
dollars
in
obligation
Bonds.
On
top
of
that,
what's
The
Debt
Service
on
that
and
it
and
I
looked
at
some
of
the
documentation
that
was
included
in
tonight's
package
and
it
it
seems
like
there's
a
very
sketchy
on
and
and
the
details
of
how
of
these
repairs
and
thing
and
the
the
process
for
this
project.
D
The
residents
of
this
community
and
the
taxpayers
demand
more
transparency
and
a
more
responsible
use
of
the
taxpayers
money.
You
know
people
are
leaving
our
community
because
the
rising
cost
of
living
in
our
Fair
City.
D
Now
one
of
the
couple
things
that
jumped
out
at
me
at
some
of
the
materials
that
I
have
reviewed
this
morning,
is
that
that
you
know
replacing
the
roofs
at
the
recycling
center.
Most
of
that
is
much
of
that
is
metal
roof
and
that's
a
lifetime
situation.
I
I
couldn't
see
any
places
that
it
was
failing.
There
are
some
flat
roofs
and
I
and
I
look
at
these
things
and
consider.
How
much
does
it
cost
per
square
foot?
D
And
if
you
look
at
these
monies,
when
you
consider
the
engineering
in
this
and
the
other
planning
part
of
this
at
717
thousand
dollars,
if
that
at
150
an
hour
for
professional
to
undertake
these
things,
that's
4783
hours
at
150,
an
hour
divided
by
40
hours,
that's
119
weeks
or
one
person
working
for
two
years
very
hard
for
this
community
at
a
very
high
pay
scale
and
I.
My
understanding
is
that
they're
they're
refurbishing
the
the
what
will
be
the
storage
facility
to
First
accommodate
the
animal
shelter.
D
Why
wasn't
this
the
the
actual
plan
for
the
animal
shelter
instead
of
spending
six
or
seven
million
dollars,
or
nearly
eight
hundred
dollars
per
square
foot?
Why
aren't
we
renovating
that
to
be
used
entirely
as
the
animal
shelter
and
building
another
facility
that
won't
require
the
same
kind
of
amenities
or
HVAC
and
other
other
components?
N
Good
evening,
I
have
a
couple
of
things:
I'll
start
with
A9,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
proposed
lease
for
Jen's
Jensen
Gardens
group
I
encourage
council
members
to
approve
this
lease.
N
Let's
get
this
done.
This
is
a
win
for
the
community.
Let's
have
something
that
we
can
say
Hey.
You
know
it's
happening
and,
as
other
speakers
said,
you
know,
this
speaks
to
people
that
have
had
a
financial
interest
in
this
people
who
have
gone
to
volunteer
here
to
help
this.
Let's
make
that
happen
tonight.
The
other
thing
that
I
am
really
concerned
about
and
the
look
of
it
is
A8
the
approval
of
the
contract
with
huddin
strategic
partners.
N
Here's
the
deal
I
see
several
issues
with
this
staff
referral.
After
reading
the
attached
memo,
there
is
the
appearance
that
the
city
staff
sat
down
with
Northwestern.
Folks
and
decided
who
would
do
the
impact
study?
Why
do
I
say
this?
Well,
they
this
group
had
in
strategic
Partners
Prides
themselves
on
doing
impact
studies
for
sports
Arenas
in
combination
with
entertainment
districts.
A
N
Really
interesting
after
Northwestern
is
like
throwing
that
out
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
big
win
for
all
of
us.
Thank
you
step
back,
seek
other
vendors
that
will
be
more
Community
focused
to
bring
the
Seventh
Ward,
along
with
the
rest
of
Evanston,
the
impacts
of
just
simply
rebuilding.
O
Thank
you,
chair
Kelly
and
council
members,
before
Northwestern
erected,
the
towers
of
dyke
stadium
in
in
1926,
regular
evanstonians
were
already
busy
making
the
Central
Street
neighborhood
below
and
really
all
of
our
chair
of
City
into
one
of
the
greatest
places
to
live.
One
of
them
was
actually
my
wife's
great
grandmother,
a
single
mother
who
had
moved
to
the
area
to
raise
her
family
and
later
worked
in
the
cafeteria
at
Haven
Middle
School,
my
name's
David
DeCarlo
and
I
recently
co-founded
the
most
livable
City
association
with
other
community
members.
O
You
already
have
our
written
comments
on
some
problems
that
we
have
seen
with
the
proposed
study
of
Ryan
Field
by
hund
and
strategic
Partners.
So
I'd
like
to
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
why
our
first
campaign
is
focused
on
northwestern's
request
to
rezone
the
U2
University
District,
my
wife
and
I
moved
to
Evanston
in
2018
to
start
our
family,
but,
as
I
mentioned,
our
connection
goes
back
Generations,
you
may
Wonder
from
generation
to
generation
how
have
single
and
multi-family
homes
and
neighborhood
business
districts.
O
Schools
a
hospital
continue
to
thrive
alongside
a
towering
Collegiate
football
stadium.
The
answer
is:
is
really
evanston's.
Zoning
loss
Northwestern
has
been
trying
to
transform
its
athletic
facilities
and
do
commercial
venues,
since
at
least
the
1950s,
but
time
and
again
Evanston
stood
together
and
said
no
to
those
types
of
schemes,
because
a
non-profit
University
shouldn't
get
richer
at
the
expense
of
our
city.
O
Now
Northwestern
wants
to
spend
a
billion
dollars
demolishing
its
old
stadium
to
make
way
for
a
new
Ryan
Field,
but
don't
let
them
take
a
wrecking
ball
to
the
zoning
laws
as
well.
The
university
touts
the
supposed
trickle-down
effects
of
professional
sports
Mega
concerts
as
reason
enough
to
just
let
them
use
the
new
stadium.
However,
they
want,
but
the
way
to
get
more
revenue
for
the
city
isn't
by
granting
northwestern's
requests.
It's
it's
creating
a
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes
program
and
twisting
their
arm
to
finally
hand
over
their
fair
share
to
the
city.
O
Everything
in
short,
which
makes
life
worthwhile
like
many
before
many
of
us,
moved
here,
seeking
a
more
livable
City
in
which
to
put
down
roots
or
raise
a
family,
and
so
we've
put
our
faith
in
you,
our
City's
leaders,
to
keep
us
oriented
towards
our
North
Star
of
creating
the
most
livable
city
in
America.
Thank
you
to
carefully
study
any
plans
to
take
our
city
in
a
New
Direction
and
ultimately
to
reject
any
proposals
that
would
put
us
on
an
Uncharted
and
hazardous
path.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
P
I
want
to
say
David
that
that
was
the
most
beautiful
public
comments
I've
ever
heard,
so
thank
you.
I
want
to
follow
up
with
that
and
say
you
know
we
haven't
decided.
We
want
an
Entertainment
District
in
the
middle
of
a
residential,
neighborhood
and
I
was
disturbed
by
the
the
staff
memos
saying
we
possibly
May
hire
a
pundit
Associates
who
is
his
focus,
is
on
designing
entertainment
areas
in
blighted
areas
or
downtown
areas.
It's
what
they
do.
They
do
well
I'm,
not
denying
that,
but
we
are
in
the
middle
of
residential
Evanston.
P
It's
not
downtown
where
you
may
want
to
rejuvenate
more
and
whatever
and
I,
wouldn't
suggest
putting
this
in
downtown
Evanston
either,
even
though
on
northwestern's
Lakefront,
they
have
two
parking
garages
and
a
flat
thing,
but
this
is
very
disturbing
that
we
would
hire
someone
to
validate
northwestern's
studies.
That's
not
the
purpose!
It's
not
what
people
ask
for.
P
We
asked
for
a
independent,
Pro
and
conic
impact
study,
because
there
is
severe
severe
consequences
for
all
the
hundreds
of
families
that
live
around
there
and
I
have
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
have
gone
into
their
homes
over
the
years
and
that's
some
real
money
and
that's
real
tax
dollar.
If
Northwestern
can't
afford
to
build
their
Stadium
without
asking
for
all
the
neighbors
and
all
of
Evans
tend
to
help
fund
it
by
giving
up
zoning
and
giving
up
their
quality
of
life
into
David's
point,
it
is
so
much
more
than
money.
P
If
that's
what
Evanston
is
going
towards?
Only
money,
then
I
think
that
we
have
abdicated
what
I
was
one
of
our
core
values.
So
I
ask
that
you
do
not
hire
hundon.
We
unless
we
are
going
to
have
a
community
meeting
and
decide.
We
want
an
Entertainment
District
smack
in
the
middle
of
where
Orion
field
is
also
Northwestern,
remembers.
The
14
billion
dollar
Corporation,
a
non-profit,
non-tax,
paying
and
I
think
we
have
to
look
and
see
what's
going
on
and
why
we
would
be
justifying
them
doing
that.
P
So
that's
all
I
want
to
say
other
than
please
do
support
the
gents
Jensen
Gardens
when
we
had
our
first
gen
strength
day
back
in
2018,
we
brought
in
106
people,
probably
about
30
from
other
parts
of
the
city,
so
it
is
a
wonderful
wonderful
project.
That's
been
going
on
and
the
volunteers
are
growing
every
day.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
Q
So
I
wish
that
you
would
regroup
and
do
not
make
approval
of
any
of
steady
by
hundon
strategic
Services
send
them
back
to
where
they
came
from
have
an
open
meeting
with
the
citizens
and
stakeholders
of
the
city.
Secondly,
please
vote
approval
for
the
Jens
Jensen
Garden.
It
is
one
of
the
greatest
contributions
Edmondson
has
and
associated
with
the
Harley
Clark
mansion,
and
anything
that
you
would
do
to
maintain
this
and
improve.
This
will
be
an
asset
to
not
only
that
property
but
to
our
entire
Community.
Q
R
R
I'm
here
also
to
talk
about
the
whole
process
for
an
independent
analysis.
It
seems
again
like
what
many
have
said:
hundon
is
really
focused
more
on
real
estate
development
and
how
an
entertainment
venue
would
work.
What
I
think
we
need
to
have
is
an
independent
study
that
Tim
referred.
C
R
R
But
what
I
also
am
concerned
about
is
a
March
27th
meeting
to
look
at
the
text
Amendment.
You
know.
Northwestern
just
really
announced
this
in
September
that
they
want
this
entertainment
venue
and
I
really
hope
we
will
slow
down
the
process
and
we
will
take
the
time
to
understand
the
true
impact
to
the
Seventh
Ward
and
to
the
City
of
Evanston
and
what
the
cost
is
to.
R
The
other
thing
is:
if
it's
a
financial
consideration,
Northwestern
has
not
only
a
lot
of
money,
they
own
a
lot
of
properties
throughout
Evanston,
at
least
in
the
2018
article
I
read
in
the
evanstonian
113.
houses
apartment
buildings.
R
Let's
really
look
at
every
all
the
money
that
Northwestern
takes
off
the
tax
rolls
and
instead
of
focusing
on
an
entertainment
venue,
let's
focus
on
contributions,
sustainable
long-term
contributions
to
the
city
where
the
city
and
perhaps
the
schools
can
decide
where
the
money
should
be
best
utilized
for
the
City
of
Evanston.
Thank
you
and
again,
please
slow
the
process
down.
Please
look
at
other
vendors.
Thank
you.
S
Hello,
I
I
also
would
like
to
comment
that
before
we
Fast
Track
hundon
proposal,
which
Southern
stated,
does
focus
on
the
potential
upside
of
an
entertainment
venue.
The
role
of
the
city
is
not
to
attempt
to
validate
northwestern's
assumptions
which
they
so
far
are
not
transparent
about.
The
role
of
the
city.
Council
I
believe,
is
to
determine
what
the
impact
and
the
cost
will
be
to
Evanston.
S
A
prospect
for
Northwestern
of
an
entertainment
venue
might
appear
to
be
a
tremendous
opportunity
from
their
perspective,
but
in
fact,
potentially
would
impose
tremendous
costs
to
the
City
of
Evanston.
We
currently
subsidize
Northwestern
to
the
tuna
between
25
and
35
million
dollars,
given
that
it's
our
largest
corporation
got
its
tax
exempt
status
when
it
was
essentially
a
one-room
schoolhouse
by
the
lake.
It's
not
that
anymore.
S
So,
like
others,
I
think
it's
imperative
that
we
have
a
study
moving
forward
that
doesn't
look
at
what
a
state-of-the-art
venue
could
do
for
its
developer,
I.E
Northwestern,
but
what
the
impact
will
be
for
us
taxpayers
in
Evanston
and
again,
if,
if
it's
a
matter
of
getting
another
few
million
dollars
of
Revenue,
how
about
that
25
to
35
million
dollars
that
our
16
billion
dollar
Corporation
in
this
town
potentially
could
pay
thanks
very
much
foreign.
T
He's
there
good
evening,
I
am
not
sure
that
you
can
hear
me.
We
can
hear
you
Bob.
A
A
A
T
I
just
got
noticed
that
I
was
accepted
for
public
comment,
I'd
like
to
just
ask
for
good
evening.
T
J
T
Well,
I'm,
sorry,
a
little
computer
glitches
here
but
I'd
like
to
comment
on
the
Harley
Clark
and
the
Jen's
Jensen
proposal
and
think
that
that's
I
believe
a
wonderful
idea.
I've
worked
with
Charles
in
the
past
and
the
Jen
Jensen's
group.
We
did
some
work
in
the
greenhouse
itself
and
and
around
the
property
we
put
in
300
or
400
square
feet
of
a
fence
around
a
garden.
A
Foreigner's,
grocery
garden
and
I.
Just
wanted
I
know
that
Charles
can
do
the
work
and
he
can
lead
the
group
well
and
I.
T
I.
Just
hope
that
you
can
find
it
among
yourselves
to
agree
that
we
should
cooperate
with
him
and
and
make
this
happen.
I'm
sorry,
a
little
Chopper
here
they
bumped
me
up
to
the
city
council
meeting
and
I
just
got
notice
of
this
event.
So
thank
you.
A
F
Eight
I'll
keep
a
seven
removed.
A
F
A
F
A
Okay,
all
in
favor.
F
A
E
A
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
item
A1.
U
B
F
A
Okay,
so
the
bills
item
A1
passes
with
a
vote
of
four
in
favor
and
one
abstention.
We
now
move
to
item
a
five.
G
A
G
I
move
item
A5
approval
of
a
Construction
contract
for
the
rehabilitation
of
the
Evanston
Municipal
storage
facility
phase.
One.
G
You
yeah
I'm,
sorry
I,
didn't
pull
this
off.
Did
somebody
else
pull
this
off
and
I'll?
Let
them
go
first:
Oh
Come,
From,
oh
okay,
well,
I,
guess,
I
think
you
should
go
first.
Chair
now
respond
I.
A
Just
have
some
questions
about
it.
This
is
the
so,
if
you
could,
let
us
know
how
much
of
this
cost
is
dedicated
to
for
the
Sheltering
of
the
animals
during
construction.
V
Members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer.
So
of
this
cost
about
163
thousand
dollars.
It's
163
473
is
dedicated
to
the
animal
shelter.
The
temporary
animal
shelter
costs.
G
Since
it's
off
the,
since
it
was
pulled
off
the
consent
agenda-
and
it
was
mentioned
in
public
comment-
I
want
us
to
remember
that
using
a
the
storage
facility
in
this
manner
is
actually
cost
savings.
It
was
mentioned
that
you
know
the
investment
they
were
making
for
the
animal
shelter,
and
for
this
to
be
now
a
storage
facility
is,
you
know,
I
think
this
is
an
eight
million
dollar
cost
savings
roughly
using
this
facility.
Is
that
correct.
V
Yes,
the
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
table
we
showed
in
that
memo
from
September
27th,
but
where
would
the
city
council
directed
us
to
retain
the
public
work,
the
recycling
center
and
re
name
it?
The
municipal,
Storage
Center?
But
when
we
had
looked
at
the
cost
of
a
public
works
storage
building,
we
had
looked
around
town
for
properties
that
were
just
available
that
were
for
sale,
and
none
of
them
really
met
our
needs.
V
That
was
a
multi-year
effort
that
David
stoneback
LED,
and
then
we
looked
at
building
a
new
one
as
part
of
the
service
center
master
plan,
and
that
cost
was
going
to
be
around
10
million
dollars
partially
because
we
were
locating
it
behind
the
sled
Hill
at
James
Park
in
the
public
works
storage
area,
and
we
don't
really
have
any
infrastructure
that
would
support
a
building.
We'd
have
to
take
electricity
back
there,
sewer
water,
just
it
was
really
intensive,
and
so
by
retaining
the
recycling
center
renaming
it
our
Municipal
Storage
Center.
V
We
do
have
to
invest
in
that.
It's
about
two
two
million
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
I
believe
was
the
estimate
for
renovation.
It's
been
out
for
sale
on
and
off
for
the
last
10
to
12
years,
during
which
time
the
city
did
not
invest
in
it.
So,
overall,
it
was
a
sale
route
of
savings
about
eight
million
dollars
to
utilize
it.
Yes,.
G
Thank
you
for
that,
and
so
I
I
think
that's
something
to
highlight
here
as
we're
going
into
this.
This
is
a
huge
savings
to
the
city.
This
makes
sense.
You
know
there
have
been,
in
fact,
I
mean
the
pre.
This
is
in
the
eighth
War,
the
storage
facility,
so
my
predecessor
and
previous
councils
I
think
were
really
rightfully
so
interested
in
looking
at
this
property
for
to
to
to
sell
the
property
and
to
develop
there.
G
You
know
that
we
we
thought
about
having
Smiley
Bros
there
Smiley
Brothers
there,
but
it
didn't
work
out,
and
you
know
I
think
when
you
Ponder
whether
we
should
spend
10
million
on
a
new
facility
or
2
million
on
an
existing
facility
that
we've
had
for
decades.
G
It
makes
sense
to
to
save
the
taxpayers
money,
even
if
you
factor
in
the
you
know
if
we
were
to
locate
a
private
business
on
this
site,
the
economic
development
you
know
over
the
lifetime
of
the
building,
depending
on
what
the
uses
may
not
bring
back
the
eight
million
dollars
that
we're
going
to
save
here
in
the
long
term.
So
I
am
fully
in
support
of
this
and
I
hope
we
can
move
forward
with
with
it.
A
Okay,
great
thank
you,
so
this
will
be
used
for
municipal
storage.
Yes,
okay,
f
at
some
point
after.
V
It's
currently
being
used
that
way.
We
store
various
heavy
equipment
in
there
when
it's
in
the
off
season
a
lot
of
times.
Things
like
plow
blades
have
a
lot
of
rubber
fittings
that
are
sensitive
to
UV
light,
so
you
can't
just
store
them
outside.
We
also
store
Stone
and
sand
that
we
use
to
complete
excavations
during
the
winter
so
that
it's
not
frozen.
We
so
there's
many
other
things
that
are
stored
there,
but
it's
a
variety
of
heavy
equipment.
V
A
Thank
you
so
it'll
be
converted,
so
we'll
be
moving
equipment
from
some
other
I
mean
I'm.
Trying
to
understand
so
we're
going
to
spend
a
lot
we're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
to
upgrade
it
in
order
for
I
know
for
animals
for
part
of
the
time,
but
I
assume
this
is
it's.
V
Already
being
used
that
way
and
the
animals
will
take
a
relatively
small
portion
of
the
building,
maybe
30
percent
at
most
and
but
the
renovations
there
are
some
Renovations
that
are
literally
like
putting
in
kennels
and
fixing
the
HVAC
to
match
the
air
changes
per
hour.
You
need
to
shelter
animals,
but
there's
some
things
like
restoring
the
fire
sprinkler
system
in
the
office
area
that
are
just
things
that
will
have
to
be
done.
V
F
V
V
F
F
V
F
Okay
and
then
just
in
terms
of
project
scope,
looking
at
our
carp
objectives,
if
you
could
just
highlight
what
we're
planning
to
do
for
for
the
renovation
here,
we.
V
Are
moving
towards
having
an
all-electric
building
and
to
that
end
we're
also
modernizing
the
LED.
We
are
not
addressing
every
HVAC
system
that
we
have
in
the
building,
but
the
ones
we
are
addressing.
We
are
modernizing
to
all
electric
and
we'll
be
looking
at
minor,
roof,
repairs
and
various
other
things.
But
yes,
as
we
go
forward,
this
building
will
be
brought
into
compliance.
A
K
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
would
really
rather
deconstruct
this
this
building
than
demolish
it.
I
know
that's
the
subject
of
some
discussion.
Is
somebody
from
staff
able
to
speak
to
that
Paul
and
I
know
that
there's
somebody
from
the
legal
department
that
was
involved
in
the
conversation
as
well.
F
W
Which
might
be
news
to
you
sure
well,
good
evening,
members
of
the
APW
committee,
I'm
Paul
zalmazak
I,
serve
as
the
economic
development
manager.
What
specific
questions
did
you
have
about
your
preference
to
deconstruct
or
what
we're.
F
So
it
is
I
understand
that
if
the
city
owns
the
property
and
we're
paying
for
demolition
or
deconstruction
either,
one
of
those
would
have
to
be
at
prevailing.
W
Wage
that
is
correct,
that
is,
a
state.
That's
a
state
law.
F
W
Based
on
estimates
that
I
I
worked
with
Aina
from
Aina
Gutierrez
from
the
rebuilding
exchange,
she
provided
estimates
on
deconstructing
some
of
the
houses
on
the
property.
It
ends
up
being
approximately
three
and
a
half
times
the
cost
of
the
demolition.
We
knew
that
coming
into
this
process.
We
knew
that
there
was
a
prevailing
wage
requirement
and
we
knew
that
it
was
going
to
be
more
expensive.
Our
our
plan,
our
goal
to
before
presenting
this
this
request
was,
we
thought
we
were
going
to
have
two.
W
W
Unfortunately,
that
option
did
not
present
itself
because,
well
frankly,
the
rebuilding
exchange,
which
is
one
of
maybe
one
of
two
firms
that
could
do
it,
realize
that
the
cost
to
do
so
would
be
really
expensive
because
of
that
prevailing
wage
requirement,
they
decided
not
to
propose
on
it,
which
left
us
with
really
wreck
on
as
the
option.
W
There
was
another
Choice
as
explained
last
time
that,
unfortunately,
through
our
procurement
process,
didn't
meet
the
standards
of
a
response,
but
that
included
a
partnership
of
the
rebuilding
exchange
where
they
were
going
to
deconstruct
the
smaller
Barn
structure.
That
I
believe
is
kind
of
like,
like
a
Coach
House
on
the
back
of
the
building.
Does
that
answer
your
question
kind
of
it.
F
It
does
but
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
exhausted
all
possible
options
and
examining
them
examining
the
prevailing
wage
rule
in
the
context
of
a
Workforce
Development
and
are
there
any
exceptions
or
loopholes?
You
know
that
we
could
legally
Avail
ourselves
of
to
to
have
this
deconstructed
at
a
at
a
lower
wage
rate.
X
Thank
you,
Paul
members
of
the
committee
Alexander
ruggie
Deputy
City
attorney
the
City
of
Evanston
Law
Department
did
look
at
this.
As
Paul
mentioned,
the
prevailing
wage
Act
is
state
law.
So
anytime,
a
project
is
utilizing.
City
funds
state
funds,
they
have
to
follow
the
prevailing
wage
and
if
the
work
being
done
is
being
done
by
a
laborer
say,
we
have
to
use
that
prevailing
wage
for
the
laborer.
There
aren't
any
exceptions,
even.
F
Okay,
I'm,
not
at
all
recommending
we
do
anything
contrary
to
state
law,
which
leaves
us
as
I
understand
it
with
only
one
option.
If
we
want
to
have
this
deconstructed
at
a
reasonable
cost,
which
would
be
to
not
do
it
now
on
the
city's
expense
but
package
it
in
to
an
RFP,
and
once
we
have
sold
the
project
to
a
developer,
to
require
them
to
do
the
deconstruction
at.
W
Yes,
council
member-
that
was
an
alternative
that
I
laid
out
in
in
the
in
the
memo.
I
would
say
you
know,
as
as
a
staff
member
advising
the
city
council
and
the
committee,
that
you
know
that
is
an
option,
but
that
also
will
delay
it'll
seriously
delay
the
demolition
or
deconstruction
literally
because
we're
waiting
to
do
the
procurement
process
and
then
actual
the
sale
of
the
property
plus
the
zoning
to
approve.
F
To
be
in
which
case
I
would
kind
of
defer
to
the
council
member
and
whose
Ward
this
project
sits
and
councilmember
burns.
If
you'd
like
to
offer
your
input.
U
Yeah
and
I've
been
talking
to
Aina
Gutierrez
from
the
rebuilding
exchange,
who
who
spoke
before
Council
and
expressed
their
concerns,
which
was
the
reason
for
this
item
being
referred
back
to
APW
I.
Think
we've
actually
come
to
an
agreement
on
a
good
path
forward
before
I
get
into
that.
I
will
say
that
I
think
this
is
a
unique
case
in
in
in
I
think
most
other
cases.
There
wouldn't
be
this
urgency
to
demo
right
away.
U
It
just
so
happens
that
this
property
has
been
kind
of
vacant
in
in
this,
in
this
condition
for
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
Paul
how
long,
but
far
too
long
and
so
to
put
another
year
18
months
on
top
of
that,
I
think
there's
something
that
the
community
members,
especially
those
who
live
across
the
alley
across
the
street
from
it
you
know,
wouldn't
want
to
tolerate
and
for
good
reason,
but
I
think
in
most
other
many
other
cases.
U
We
could
do
it
exactly
what
Paul
proposed,
which
is
just
package
it
all
into
an
RFP
process
and
and
put
it
as
a
requirement.
You
know
in
the
RFP
that
we
want
developers
to
respond
to
it
and
we
want
you
know
a
certain,
a
portion
of
the
demo
to
be
deconstructed
versus
demo,
I.
Think
again,
nine
out
of
10
times,
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
do
that.
This
one
is,
is
rather
unique.
I
think
the
what
we.
U
What
we
decided
on
I,
think
with
with
this
committee's
support,
is
amending
the
contract
to
exclude
the
barn
and
that
I
know
and
her
team
rebuilding
exchange
have
said
that
they
are
willing
to
donate
their
services
to
Deacon
construct
the
barn
which
is
really
out
of
all
the
properties.
What
they
feel
is
the
most
valuable
in
terms
of
salvaging
materials.
U
We've
already
heard
from
from
Council
Cummins
I
believe
I
talked
to
him
prior
to
this
meeting,
and
it
would
not
trigger
the
prevailing
wage
issue
that
we've
been
discussing
because
it's
being
donated
and
no
public
funds
will
be
going
towards
this
removal.
So
I'm
happy
to
discuss
this
more,
but
but
I
know
satisfied
with
that.
It'll
allow
us
to
to
still
get
some
some
some
trainees
involved
in
to
deconstruct
and
Salvage
a
really
important
part
of
the
property.
So
that's
the
amendment
I'll
make
when,
when
we're
ready.
G
Yeah
I
I
am
fully
I
I
agree
with
councilmanusma.
This
is
where
I
grew
up.
These
are
my
one
of
the
properties
of
my
childhood
home
I
would
love
to
see
the
building,
deconstructed
and
I'd
love
to
go
into
rebuilding
warehouse
and
buy
a
chunk
of
wood
and
put
it
in
the
future
home,
but
I
agree
with
councilmember
Burns
I
mean
seeing
the
with
his
forthcoming
motion
happy
to
support
it.
G
You
know
the
issue
with
prevailing
wage
in
this
scenario
is
is
unfortunate
and
we
discussed
this
recently
at
the
mwe
Ebe
committee
and
I
think
that
what
this
body
may
have
to
do
so
we
don't
miss
out
on
opportunities
like
this
in
the
future,
is
go
to
our
state
legislatures
and
ask
for
a
sensible
revision
to
this
law.
To
allow
for
a
situation
like
this,
where
a
non-profit
job
training
entity
is
is
using.
You
know,
City
funds
to
deconstruct
a
building
which
meets
our
carp
goals
meets
our
you
know.
G
We
don't
need
to
explain
it
to
everyone
here,
but
yeah.
We
need
to
take
action
and
I
think.
Maybe
we
can
pass
a
first
step
past
the
resolution
to
ask
our
local
legislators
to
to
take
action
at
the
state
level,
but
certainly
in
an
interim
what
we
can
do
certainly
happy
to
support
councilmember
Burns's
motion.
Thank
you.
F
U
Right
now,
I,
don't
know
how
what
we'd
need
to
do
with
retcon.
But
certainly
the
motion
is
just
to
remove
the
what
has
been
referred
to
as
the
barn
from
the
overall
scope
of
work
for
this
contract
and
to
work
out
an
agreement
with
rebuilding
exchange
to
either
to
deconstruct
the
bar
and
no
cost
to
the
city.
B
I
was
wondering
if
legal
could
weigh
in
on
whether
or
not
we
can
award
a
contract
amending
the
contract
requirements
without
having
prior
discussion
with
the
contractor.
That
was
award
that
we
are
proposing
toward
to.
Y
When
I
was
about
to
walk
out
good
evening,
members
of
the
ampw
committee
chair,
Kelly,
Nicholas,
Cummings,
Corporation,
Council
I,
don't
know
that
I
can
answer
that
question
right
now.
This
was
pursuant
to
a
request
for
proposals,
my
understanding,
so
the
city
essentially
would
be
amending
the
requirements
pursuant
to
that
RFP.
In
order
to
change
or
amend
this
particular
contract,
we
would
probably
need
to
either
open
it
back
up
for
bid
or
talk
to
the
developer.
Who
is
who
we
already
intending
to
award
the
contract
at
the
very
least
but
I?
U
Yeah,
that's
right,
there's
something
about
it.
It
doesn't
sound
quite
right,
but
because
we
could
just
vote
no
and
then
they
don't
get
it
and
they
give
it
to
re.
It's
just
there's
something
about
that
that
doesn't
sound
right,
but
I'm
fine
holding
it.
And
if,
if
that's
the
opinion,
if
I'll
leave
you
to
bring.
A
B
I
would
recommend
that
you
do
hold
it
to
give
us
the
opportunity
to
discuss
with
the
company
that
we
are
proposing
to
Ward,
to
and
and
get
make
sure
that
there's
a
reduction
in
his
in
their
proposed
price
rather
than
saying
yeah.
You
can
deconstruct
it
now.
My
price
Remains,
the
Same
you
council
could
still
elect
to
do
that.
We
just
want
to
give
you
the
the
knowledge
of
what
all.
U
Yeah,
that's
why
I
think
just
just
I
think
if
we
went
back
to
them
and
said
this
is
no
longer
part
of
the
scope
of
work.
Can
you
give
us
a
new?
They
would
do
that,
whether
we
held
it
or
not
right
they
just
want
to
perform
the
work
and
get
paid
for
the
work
that
they
do,
but
again
I'm
fine
holding
it
I.
Just
don't
think
it'd
be
an
issue.
If
he
went
to
them
and
said
hey,
we
voted
to
remove
the
bar
and
what
is
the
new
cost
of
it?
U
W
Mean
probably
the
only
excuse
me,
council,
member,
okay,
the
only
all
alternative
I
need
some
direction
from
Deputy
City
manager's
film,
back
I
could
literally
call
the
the
contractor
between
now
and
city
council
meeting
to
see
have
him
file
an
email
with
the
actual
number
and
come
back
to
the
city
council
with
an
update
or
we
hold
it
for
two.
It
will
be
three
weeks
because
the
next
meeting
is
the
13th
I
believe
of
February.
F
A
G
Emotional
hold
is
not
proper
in
committee.
The
motion
a
table.
A
So
it's
been
moved
to
table
until
it
doesn't
happen
until
our
next
meeting,
which
I
believe
is
February
13th
13th
and
it's
been
seconded
by
council
member.
C
A
Councilmember
Harris,
so
that
requires
a
vote
and
Mr
stonebeck.
If
you
would
take
the
role.
B
Second,
please
I
just
want
to
start
the
right
order:
council,
member
Burns,
no
councilman
Reed,
no
councilmember
Harris,
councilmember,
nuzma,
aye,
council
member
Kelly.
A
Aye,
okay,
so
it
passes
with
a
vote
of
three
to
two:
it's
tabled
until
February
13th
foreign.
F
Z
Thank
you
very
much.
Madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
Eleanor
Ravel,
Seventh,
Ward,
council,
member
and
I
have
some
comments
about
this
proposed
item.
First
of
all,
I
I
do
I
want
to
talk
first
about
the
cover
memo
and
make
it
very
clear
that
our
intent
is
not
to
validate
the
University's
claims
that
that
profits
from
an
unspecified
number
of
concerts
or
special
events
is
needed.
Z
That,
with
the
idea,
is
not
to
look
at
what
the
economic
impact
study
that
was
done
for
the
University
and
decide
whether
we
agree
with
it
or
not,
but
rather
to
do
our
own
independent
analysis
of
what
we
think
what
we
can
count
on
as
the
economic
impact
of
this.
Both
the
proposed
rebuild
of
the
stadium,
and
especially
the
issue
of
the
concerts
so
so,
and
more
specifically,
I
guess
I
I
Envision
and
would
basically
go
back
to
hundon
and
say
we
want
to
look
at
three
different
aspects
of
their
of
The
Proposal.
Z
First
I'd
be
I,
really
want
to
see.
What's
going
to
be
the
impact
during
Demolition
and
construction,
because
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
potential
jobs
and
both
temporary
and
potentially
permanent
jobs?
If
people
get
the
training
during
the
construction
itself,
and
so
in
that
area
and
then
what
what
kind
of
permit
fees
would
come
to
the
city,
so
that
could
be
a
clear
economic
impact
for
the
city,
then.
Z
Secondly,
just
looking
at
the
home
football
games,
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
how
this
amazing
new
stadium
is
going
to
provide
this
enhanced,
Fan,
Experience,
and
so
people
who
might
not
have
wanted
to
come
to
the
football
game
are
going
to
want
to
come
because
it's
going
to
be
so
amazing
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
expectation
is
of
current
revenues
from
the
home
football
games
compared
to
what
they
might
be
able
to
expect
with
this
enhanced
venue
and
then
third
and
most
important
is
separately.
Z
What
what
will
the
impact
be
of
these
proposed
concerts
over
and
above
the
football
event,
the
football
games?
So
what
will
be
the
impact
for
City
revenues?
What
kind
of
extra
new
tax
revenues
can
we
expect
for
the
downtown
and
for
each
of
our
neighborhood
business
districts,
and
particularly
the
Central
Street
business
district?
What
can
we
expect
would
be
the
economic
impact
for
them?
You
know
restaurants,
hotels,
retail
sales,
Etc
and
for
our
residents
in
terms
of
jobs,
because
I
think
you
know.
Z
Z
What
can
we
expect
would
be
the
impact
for
the
immediate
neighbors
around
the
stadium
and
and
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
our
consultant
understands
the
real
special
location
of
this
Stadium
rebuild
project
Ryan
Field,
as
you've
heard
earlier
this
evening
from
some
some
comments
from
the
residents
it's
located
in
the
heart
of
a
well-established,
dense,
residential
neighborhood
and
as
far
as
I
know
it's
unlike
this
setting
for
any
other
Big
Ten
or
even
a
professional
football
stadium.
Z
Z
I
do
believe
that
hundon
strategic
Partners
does
have
the
expert
expertise
and
experience.
That's
required
to
give
us
a
sound
economic
analysis,
but
I
ask
the
committee
to
table
this
table
the
contract
to
allow
us
time
to
revise
the
proposed
scope
of
work,
so
it's
very
clear
what
we're
what
we're
asking
for
and
what
hundon
is
expected
to
deliver
and
so
I'd
ask
that
you
table
this
to
your
next
ampw
meeting.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
councilmember
Ravel,
your
a
thoughtful
list
of
questions
that
would
need
to
be
answered
and
added
to
the
contract.
You're
willingness
to
table
this
so
I
support
that
tabling
and
I
guess
in
the
interest
of
time.
I
will
make
that
motion
to
table
this
to
our
next
meeting.
A
Okay,
I
just
I
wonder
if
we
could
also
consider
I'm
sure
I'm.
You
know
I
have
no
doubt
that
hundon
is
a
top-notch
firm
for
this,
but
there
are
some
groups,
like
Civic
economics.
That's
very
Community
focused
in
conjunction
with
Community
allies.
If
we
could
look
at
perhaps
Civic
economics
also
yeah
between
now
and
then
because
I'm
not
entirely
clear.
This
was
an
informal
process
and
why
was
it?
Why
didn't
we
RFP
that
I'm
just
wanting
to
understand
the
process
and
with
the
other
firms
that
were
like
Friedman
SB
Friedman
ayakam?
W
Thank
you
committee
chair
once
again:
Paul
zamazak
economic
development
manager,
so
frankly
in
the
in
in
the
interest
of
time,
meaning
we
we
wanted
to
move
quickly
in
responding
kind
of
at
the
University
space.
W
We
identified
three
firms
that
are
relatively
local,
that
kind
of
have
an
economics,
Consulting
expertise
and
those
are
the
three
firms
we
identified.
Hundon
kind
of
rose
to
the
top
because
they
do
focus
on
stadiums
and
they
serve
on
both
sides
of
the
table,
meaning
they
do
have
City
clients,
they're,
not
they're,
not
necessarily
saying
when
they
do
an
analysis
that
they
are
pro
Stadium
they're,
highlighting
the
the
impacts
that
a
stadium
provides
based
on
their
location.
This
is
not
a
pro
Stadium
firm,
it's
a
state.
W
It's
a
firm
that
understands
Stadium
economics,
which
includes
concert
economics,
Sports
economics
Etc,
so
that
that's
so
part
of
me.
That's
why
we
proceeded
with
that
firm.
None
of
the
three
firms
that
we
identified
are
minority
or
woman-led.
It
is
a
real
challenge
in
the
urban
planning
and
economic
Consulting
industry
to
find
firms
that
are
led
by
people
of
color.
It's
unfortunate.
A
A
So
this
has
been
tabled
and
moved
to
table
and
seconded
until
our
February.
G
We
know
I
will
move
item
A9,
but
what
I'm
going
to
move
is
to
direct
staff
to
finalize
a
lease
with
the
James
Jensen
Garden
Evanston
group,
and
bring
that
back
final.
Lease
back
to
this
committee
to
then
be
moved
forward
to
council
and.
A
G
G
I've
spoken
with
a
number
of
folks
today
and
so
I
just
want
to
briefly
lay
out
a
few
questions.
So
one
of
the
questions
is
that
I
think
will
have
to
be
worked
out
in
the
negotiation.
Is
you
know
that
I've
heard
from
some
of
my
colleagues?
Is
you
know?
Why
is
the
term
of
the
least
40
years?
And
you
know
I
had
a
similar
question
and
I
think
if
I
can
have
I
don't
know,
maybe
a
first,
our
Law
Department
or
the
James
Jensen
group.
G
H
I
think
it's
necessary
and
appropriate,
given
the
long
term
time
that
it
takes
for
a
landscape
designed
to
develop
we're
talking
about
planting
trees
that
have
a
lifespan
of
a
couple
hundred
years
and
we're
investing
not
just
in
the
immediate
grounds,
but
whatever
we
do,
impacts
the
whole
neighborhood
and,
of
course,
a
lot
of
dreams
and
go
along
with
the
people
that
are
donating
the
money
and
they
understand
the
long-term
nature
of
of
what
we're
doing
right
now.
The
landscape
features
there
from
Jen's
Jensen
are
almost
100
years
old.
H
The
oak
trees
that
are
behind
the
building
are
a
couple
hundred
well
over
200
years
old
and
those
trees
were
mature
oak
trees
when
the
when
the
original
is
done.
So
if
you
look
at
the
great
beautiful
parks
that
we
have
like
Centennial
Park
with
all
the
mature
oak
trees,
in
order
to
achieve
that,
it
takes
well
over
40
years,
so
I
think.
So
that's.
G
Yeah.
Thank
you
for
that
explanation,
because
I
I,
when
colleagues
raised
that
I
I
shared
I
thought
yeah.
L
C
G
Years,
and
so
you
know
that
explanation
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
It's
just
sure
that
the
group
has
enough
time
to
ensure
that
the
landscape
is
is
fully
developed
and
that
the
donors
Vision
comes
true.
Then
I've
also
spoken
to
folks,
who
again
reasonably
say.
G
Maybe
we
should
just
take
a
breath
and-
and
you
know
see,
what's
out
there
potentially
go
back
out
for
a
full
RFP
with
the
grounds
and
the
building
and
of
you
know
again,
I
think
that's
reasonable,
but
then,
when
you
I
think
when
you
think
about
it,
when
you
look
at
the
proposals
that
we
have
had
in
the
past,
I
think,
as
someone
stated
earlier
during
public
comment,
that
you
know
turning
the
gardens
over
to
this
group,
or
you
know
to
this
group
will
ensure
that
it's
almost
like
staging
the
house
for
someone
else
and
I
can't
imagine
just
similar
to
artists
Book
House.
G
How
many
organizations
want
to
both
main
you
know,
invest,
make
a
major
investment
in
the
house
and
invest
in
the
grounds
and
ensure
that
the
grounds
are
maintained
to
the
standard
that
I
believe
a
wide
section
of
the
community
expects
long
into
the
future,
and
so
I
think
that
actually
does
help
us
get
action
on
the
next
step
with
the
house,
whatever
that
may
be,
and
then
you
know.
Lastly,
does
this
close
the
door
to
you
know
entering
into
an
agreement
with
the
James
Jensen
Garden
Evanston
group?
G
Does
it
close
the
door
to
again
flexibility
with
whoever
the
future
tenant
or
whatever
we
decide
to
do
with
the
house?
Does
it
close
the
door
to
Opportunities
there,
such
as
our
spoke
house,
wanted
to
create
a
stone
Terrace
to
for
accessibility
and
for
to
allow
a
cafe
there?
G
Would
this
close
the
door
to
someone
being
able
to
do
that
and
I
think
what
I've
heard
expressed
from
the
Jen's
Jensen
Garden
Evanston
group,
and
what
I
expect
to
see
in
the
lease
is
that
we
have
the
ability
to
ensure
that
that
the
doors
aren't
closed
in
the
future.
G
So
with
that,
I
I
think
I
ask
that
we
support
moving
this
forward
and
negotiate
a
lease
and
have
that
lease
come
back
to
this
body
and
then
move
forward
to
council
with
the
final
lease
at
our
February
13th
meeting.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
council
member
can.
F
F
As
much
as
I
appreciate
the
work
that
the
Jensen
group
has
done
over
the
years,
I
don't
think
it's
prudent
to
take
this
action.
That's
in
front
of
us
tonight.
This
assumes
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
and
bifurcate
the
lease
which
two
weeks
ago
was
The
Prudent
course
of
action
give
given
where
we
were
at
with
regards
to
the
the
artist
Book
House
partnership.
F
But
it's
been,
you
know
less
than
14
days
since
artist
book
house
has
has
dematerialized,
we
still
haven't
negotiated
the
termination
of
that
lease
and
I
am
in
the
camp.
That
believes
we
should
take
a
minute,
take
a
breath
and
make
sure
we
are
appropriately
considering
all
of
our
options
before
we
move
forward.
One
question
we'll
have
to
answer
is:
do
we
want
to
bifurcate
the
lease,
and
at
least
the
the
house
in
the
gardens
separately?
Maybe
we
do
if
we
do.
F
Jensen
has
a
as
good
of
a
shot
as
any
as
any
group
to
to
get
the
lease
on
the
gardens,
and
so
I
I'm,
basing
my
opinion
this
evening,
not
on
any
any
negative
feelings
or
negative
judgment
with
regards
to
gents
Jensen,
but
the
bigger
picture
is
we
have
a
a
at
the
city
council
have
to
be
responsible
for
the
whole
package,
the
house
and
the
grounds.
F
The
house
is
the
much
more
economically
impactful
portion
of
that
package
and
that's
what
we
have
to
focus
on
and
I
don't
want
to
preclude
a
potential
future
participant
in
this
project
from
from
bidding
on
the
project
or
or
participating
in
some
way
shape
or
form
by
forcing
them
to
work
with
a
partner
that
that
already
exists.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
are
approach
approaching
this
kind
of
strategically
and
thoughtfully
if,
in
the
end,
it
works
out
to
work
with
Jensen.
F
AA
AA
That's
my
older
I'm
a
little
older
than
that,
but
we
won't
necessarily
be
around
to
see
the
fruits
of
that
labor,
but
understanding
some
of
what
you
said
makes
sense,
but
I
just
want
us
to
be
prudent
to
make
sure
we're
appropriate
with
our
leases,
the
time
ramifications
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
I
would
not
like
to
reopen
it
for
someone
else
to
come
in
I.
Do
want
to
be
committed
to
gents
Jensen
I
just
want
that
to
be
appropriately
done
as
stated
last
week.
G
Yeah
so
I
I
think
we
have
the
votes
here
and
I
think
staff
I
think
has
proper
direction.
I
spoke
with
Council
Cummings,
just
to
make
sure
councilmember
Harris.
You
know
your
concerns
are
answered.
Council
Cummings
offered
two
suggestions
on
how
we
move
forward
with
this.
This
was
one
of
the
suggestions
that
we
make
this
motion
and
I
think
that's
appropriate
and
so
I
I
appreciate
that
we're
committed
to
and
I'll
attorney
ruggie.
X
Thank
you,
council
member,
read
just
to
clarify,
so
the
City
of
Evanston
city
code
specifies
how
we
can
sell
or
lease
our
city
property.
This
needs
to
be
done
by
ordinance,
so
I
would
just
suggest
legally
that
you
amend
the
motion
to
to.
X
X
Right
so
also
just
another
question:
technically
the
lease
with
artist
book
house
has
not
been
formally
terminated.
X
So
is
it
the
direction
of
this
committee
to
terminate
it
from
the
city
Side?
Are
you
directing
us
to
wait
for
official
termination,
I
just
legally
worry.
G
I
do
believe
that
you
know
one
they've
indicated
that
they
are
are
through
here
and
certainly
we
have
the
option
to
end
the
lease
previously
because
the
terms
were
not
met.
That's
why
we
were
amending
it.
Councilman
Ravel
is
at
the
podium,
so
I'll.
Let
you
speak.
Z
Well,
just
to
let
you
know
where
the
the
letter
or
the
what
artist
book
house
is
doing.
Artist
book
house
is
preparing
a
formal
letter
to
terminate
the
lease
they
they
have
quite
a
few.
Z
They
have
a
lot
of
books
in
the
house
now
left
over
from
their
book,
sale
and
and
some
furniture
so
they're
in
the
process
of
moving
that
the
books
in
that
furniture
out
and
and
so
they're
in
terms
of
timing
I
think
they
would
like
to
get
all
that
get
the
house
cleaned
out
before
they
actually
formally
send
the
letter
in
so
I
mean
they're
they're
working
to
make
that
happen
soon.
But
it's
it's
not
happening
tomorrow.
AA
Thank
you
for
that
information,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
work
together
so
that
this
does
not
drag
on
and
on
so
I
think
we
need
to
work
with
them
to
decide
a
date.
Usually
when
somebody's
leaving
there's
a
set
date,
they
don't
set
the
date
the
owner
set
the
date
so
I'd
like
for
us
to
come
up
with
something
that
makes
sense,
so
it
doesn't
drag
on
so
that
we
can
now
work
with
the
garden.
X
So
I
think
that's
why
they
were
waiting
to
give
official
termination
and
then,
as
far
as
an
ordinance
for
the
lease
of
the
property,
the
survey
and
the
legal
description
would
not
be
ready
by
the
13th,
so
staff
would
be
seeking
additional
time
beyond
that.
AA
Again
as
long
as
we
have
something
in
mind
to
not
just
say
well,
when
we
move
and
we
don't
have
a
place
to
move,
we
have
business
to
take
care
of
I
want
us
to
be
steady
and
move
forward.
I
do
want
us
to
be
appropriate
as
a
city
to
not
just
say
24
hours,
it's
23
we're
waiting
for
you
to
leave,
but
we
need
to
set
that
tone
and
that
Cadence.
G
G
So
so
that
will
be
the
case
and
then
also
to
ensure
that
we
are
giving
artists
book
house
enough
time
to
clear
out
and
terminate
the
lease
I
do.
Think
three
weeks
is,
you
know,
I
I
did
a
walk
through
with
them.
There's
not
a
whole
lot.
They
don't
they're
not
living
there.
So
I
think
they
can
get
out
and
move
all
of
their
belongings
out
within
three
weeks,
and
then
we
can
certainly
provide
enough
time
for
and
I
guess.
G
G
Okay,
so
yeah,
so
then
you
know
I'll
move
that
we
have
this
for
the
second
meeting
in
February
follow
117
and
four,
and
we
set
the
tone,
as
council
member
Harris
said,
with
artist
book
house,
to
move
at
a
responsible
pace.
AA
I'm
sorry
to
keep
being
on
the
mic.
So
do
we
give
direction
to
Jin's
Jensen
Garden
to
keep
moving
forward
I
want
them
to
leave
with
some
understanding
of
who
they
are
and
where
they
are
in
this
process.
So
I
don't
want
us
to
just
say.
Yes,.
G
G
F
You
for
Clear,
if
I
may
Madam
chair,
thank
you
for
clarifying
that
motion
again.
I,
don't
think
that's
a
prudent
use
of
our
of
our
time
and
City's
resources.
I
would
like
to
have
a
conversation
at
council
tonight,
because
this,
if
this
does
require
two-thirds
vote
and
we
don't
have
that
vote
at
Council
I,
don't
want
to
ask
staff
to
spend
that
time
and
I
don't
want
to
waste
Jensen
time
going
down
that
that
path.
If
it's
ultimately
going
to
lead
nowhere.
A
Okay,
if
I
may
you
know
part
of
what
we're
asking
is
that
a
finalized
lease
most
of
this
has
been
done?
I
don't
want
us
discussing
I.
Think
none
of
us
want
us
looking
over
what
we
currently
have.
It's
the
you
know
the
language
of
the
lease
we'd
prefer
much
prefer
that
this
get
finalized.
Most
of
the
work
has,
you
know,
been
done,
so
that's
I,
think
what
we'd
like
to
see
and
I
think
I
also
would
very
much
obviously
like
to
see
Jen's
Jensen
Garden
continue
the
beautiful
work
they've
been
doing.
A
Historically,
these
have
been
separate
entities.
The
gardens
are
historical.
The
house
is
separate,
so
either
way.
I
think
many
of
us
would
like
to
see
this
continue,
but
this
will
be
Once.
The
lease
is
finalized.
It'll
come
back
here
again
for
further
discussion,
so
I
think
I
agree
with
councilmember
Harris
that
we
should
move
forward
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
G
Be
fair
for
the
record
what
councilmember
Newsom
was
asking
was
the
second
suggestion
of
of
council
Cummings
I
do
support
this
route.
I
I
think
that
having
a
final
lease
will
help
folks
really
understand
what
we're
getting
into
and
what
the
deal
is
and
there's
five
of
us
here,
I
suspect
four
of
us
right
now.
I,
don't
want
to
assume.
G
Vote
but
I
suspect
four
of
us
are
going
to
support
this
and
you
know
I
think
convincing
two
other
members
that
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do
is
not
a
a
huge
hurdle.
So
thank
you.
B
I
staff
would
greatly
appreciate
to
have
one
final
motion,
so
we
can
understand
that
that's
part
of
what
our
challenge
was
with
preparing
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting
is
that
there
was
motions.
There
was
a
discussion.
There
was
Invasion
to
the
motion.
It's
not
in
writing.
It's
very
challenging
for
staff
to
even
go
back
and
watch
the
video
to
determine
what
the
actual
motion
is.
I
can't
tell
when
you're
I
get
the
impression
you
want
the
city
to
terminate
the
least
with
artist
Book,
House
I
wasn't
sure
what
date
you
wanted
that
by
thank.
G
G
G
We
instruct
the
city
manager
to
move
forward
with
negotiating
a
lease
for
the
grounds
and
the
coach
house,
with
the
Jen's
Jensen
Garden
Evanston
group,
following
our
city
code,
which
is
mandatory
already
but
1174,
and
that
we
set
a
deadline
for
artists
book
house
that
I
think
I
can
leave
up
to
the
city
manager
and
his
staff
to
set
a
deadline
that
allows
us
to
negotiate
this
lease
and
bring
it
back
in
a
timely
fashion.
G
I,
don't
think
I
have
to
dictate
the
exact
date
here
and
then
lastly,
I
believe
the
instruction
was
to
to
give
enough
time
for
staff
to
conduct
the
survey,
and
so
that's
why
we're
asking
for
this
to
come
back
at
the
second
meeting
in
February.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilmember
Reed,
okay,
that
does
that
help.
F
B
G
You
know
I
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
huge
difference,
so
it's
a
whatever
you
see
fit
I
mean
as
long
as
what
I
just
said
gets
done.
That's
that's
the
important.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
second,
we
have
a
motion
and
seconded.
Can
we.
A
Go
right,
the
motion
had
already
been
seconded
to
fight
to
have
the
to
have
direct
staff
to
bring
back
a
finalized
lease,
that's
in
agreement
with
Jen
Stenson
Gardens
and
conforming
to
a
legal
City
of
Evanston
legal
and
to
bring
it
back
by
the
second
to
shoot.
For
the
second
week
in
February,
correct.
F
U
A
AA
Q
AA
AA
F
G
Retract,
the
first
yes,
okay,
I,
would
retract
my
motion.
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
we're
given
the
direction
really
to
to
Luke
and
to
legal
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
Luke
and
legal
are
under.
There
are
understanding
what
what
we're
asking
here.
Yes,
okay.
C
G
And
I'm
gonna
put
this
in
in
fact,
can
I
ask
that
we
stand
at
ease
for
three
minutes
as
I
put
this
in
writing.
G
A
A
C
A
Right:
I'm
gonna,
let's
Mr
stonebeck,
if
you
could,
please
call
the
vote.
The
roll
ER,
oh
I,
apologize.
AA
AA
AA
A
A
Okay,
the
motion
passes
with
a
vote
of
four
to
one.
This
is
okay,
I,
think,
that's
it
and
I
think
we're
going
to
move
now
to
table
the
discussion
items.
B
E
A
parking
lease
agreement
with
Zoe
Zoe
life,
Evanston
Labs
owner
at
the
city
garage
located
at
525.
AA
AA
AB
AB
However,
when
they
submitted
their
proposal,
they
included
it
along
with
everybody
else
that
didn't
at
the
time.
We
didn't
include
it
because
we
were
trying
to
keep
costs
down,
as
well
as
as
the
work
progressed
and
and
the
performance
that
they
did.
We
decided
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
based
on
the
pricing
that
they
submitted
and
we
had
them
update
their
pricing,
the
workload
to
staff
that
we
continue
on
with
the
the
original
scope
that
they
gave
us
that
included,
bidding
and
and
and
construction
services.
AA
AA
AB
Wouldn't
have
because
the
original
the
the
original
proposals
did
not
include
the
original
7500
M.I.A
was
was
the
lowest
proposal
that
was
submitted
even.
AA
A
C
A
Right
no
opposed
okay,
I
item
Mr
councilmember,
read:
okay.
Item
11
passes
five
zero.
We
now
move
to
item.
G
Four
consideration
chair:
if,
if
I
may
move
items
without
objection,
items
a12,
a13,
A14,
a15
and
a16.
F
G
Just
on
one
of
these
items,
I
just
want-
and
this
will
go
to
council
as
well
I,
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
be
pulled
off
consent,
but
we
are
voting
on
the
Police
contract
and
I
think
for
our
officers
and
for
City
staff
across
the
board.
This
is
long
overdue.
Their
you
know
the
baker
Tilly
study
showed
that
our
police
officers
were
underpaid
when
compared
to
comparable
municipalities
and
particularly
given
the
complexities
of
of
of
a
city
like
Evanston.
G
A
Great
okay,
no
further
discussion,
all
in
favor
of
those
items;
aye;
okay,
no
opposed;
okay,
so
items
a
12
through
a16
past
five,
zero
Okay.
G
G
G
Okay:
okay,
that's
items
D1
and
D2.
So
without
objection,
no.
G
A
Okay;
okay,
with
that,
do
we
have
to
vote
on
that
everyone's
okay
with
that
I?
Okay,
all
right
all
in
favor,
aye
I
think.
Did
we
get
a
second
on
that
to
we
got
a
second
okay,
all
in
favor
all.
E
A
Any
opposed
okay,
so
those
items
have
been
postponed
or
held
over
to
the
next
meeting.
With
that,
our
meeting
is
adjourned
and
we'll
begin
absolutely
councilmember.
Harris
I
apologize.
It's.
AA
A
Okay
meeting:
it's
a
turn,
we'll
start
P
and
D
at.