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A
A
Good
evening
I'd
like
to
call
the
administration
and
Public
Works
committee
meeting
in
order
at
509
pm
on
Monday
February
29th.
Can
you
please
take
the
role.
B
A
You
good
evening,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
being
here,
I'd
like
to
begin
with
the
approval
of
minutes
from
February
13
2023
do
I
have
a
motion.
D
E
Good
evening,
good
good
evening,
members
of
ampw,
let's
be
brief.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
I'd
like
to
compliment
Mr
Cummings,
who
is
now
engaged
with
our
attorneys,
and
they
are
exchanging
information.
That
seems
to
be
going
real.
Well,
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that,
but
I
also
want
to
just
say
that
in
19
I
guess
it
was
1980
and
1918.
in
2018.
E
You
know,
I
first
started
actually
20
2017
first
started
working
down
at
Harley
Clark,
and
then
the
effort
was
just
to
clean
up
around
the
building.
You
know
just
so
it
looked
decent
and
that's
when
we
were
doing
save
Harley
cargo.
E
We
wanted
to
make
the
building
just
look
like
something
someplace
that
someone
cared
about,
but
that
it
kind
of
evolved
into
expanding
out
into
the
broader
area
around
the
grounds
and
getting
rid
of
invasives,
which
has
been
happening
for
years
and
years
actually
down
there
and
cutting
out
unwanted
trees
and
that
kind
of
stuff
stuff
and,
of
course,
that
evolved
in
into
ninth
into
2018
2019
into
you,
know,
buying
trees
and
and
plants,
and
preparing
areas
to
plant.
E
Those
and
kind
of
expanding
those
kinds
of
activities-
and
you
know
that
evolved
over
over
the
last
few
years,
into
pretty
significant
clearing
and
planting
starting
in
the
spring,
so
I've
already
been
kind
of
contacted
by
volunteers
going
when
do
we
start
and
I
and
I
and
I
have
to
tell
them
well,
it
all
depends,
but
it
is
kind
of
a
strange
feeling
to
be
at
this
point
this
time
of
the
year
and
you
know
not
be
ordering
trees
or
or
planting
or
or
organizing.
E
Things
progress
in
a
way
that
will
allow
those
kinds
of
activities
to
start
happening
again
down
at
the
Jen's,
Jensen,
Gardens
and
and
the
lighthouse
Landing.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You
so
much
for
your
comments
and
I
should
have
begun.
We
have
time
for
each
person
to
speak
and
it's
two
minutes.
F
I
can
I'm
good
myself.
Thank
you.
Two
questions.
One
is
for
the
bills
list,
I'm
just
confused.
Why
there
are
references
to
bills
from
fiscal
year,
2022.
F
F
F
You
know
this
is
part
of
a
facilities
summary
for
Capital
Improvement
plan
projects.
They're
appear
to
be
funded
by
bonds.
It's
called
exhibit
a
so
shouldn't
that
be
updated
because
that's
no
longer
the
case,
that's
not
going
to
be
renovated
for
2
million
three
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars
and
related
to
that
just
quickly.
F
I
know
it's
not
on
apw's
agenda,
but
it
should
be
because
it
never
really
got
out
of
the
committee
as
far
as
I
understood,
which
is
the
animal
shelter
bids
and
crotch
total
project
costs
that
that
was
never
brought
back
to
APW
the
way
it
was
supposed
to
be
and
I
think.
That's
some
kind
of
a
rule
break
as
far
as
I
know,
and
now
it
appears
as
a
special
order
of
business
for
the
city
council
at
the
next
meeting
so
item
A1
somebody
explained
the
fiscal
year
2022
thing
and
then.
F
A
A
H
H
If
the
Mansion
lease
is
what's
quoted
in
the
paperwork
as
superior
to
the
Jen's
Jensen
Gardens
lease,
does
that
mean
that
you
would
allow
other
uses
other
than
the
uses
that
Jen's
Jensen
Gardens
is
committed
to?
So
that's
one
question
that
I
would
love
you
to
discuss
tonight.
H
Another
thing
is
that
the
Jen's
Jensen
Garden
group
wants
the
grounds
to
be
a
public
park.
What
if
the
Mansion
tenant
wants
something
other
than
a
public
park?
Does
this
mean
that
the
city
may
change
the
use
in
zoning?
H
That's
going
to
be
a
big
concern
to
the
community
and
would
a
future
Mansion
tenant
be
required
to
restore
the
gardens
and
take
care
of
the
grounds.
As
was
listed
when
artists
book
house
had
the
lease
so
looking
for
a
few
clarifications
there
and
I
just
want
to
piggyback
on
Mike's
comment
about
A9
the
animal
shelter.
H
G
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
yeah
I,
don't
know
what
happened,
but
anyway,
I
wanted
to
thank
the
staff
for
preparing
the
lease
for
the
Jen's
Jensen
garden,
and
you
know
we
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone
on
negotiating
a
final
version
of
that
right
now
our
attorneys
are
marking
it
up
and
we've
already
reviewed
it
and
given
the
attorney's
various
comments-
and
we
expect
it'll
be
back
to
the
city,
probably
by
the
end
of
the
week
and
then
we'll
be
ready
to
discuss
it.
G
So
I
really
spoke
today,
because
I
think
until
our
comments
are
prepared,
that
we
would
recommend
that
you
postpone
the
discussion
today,
because
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
for
the
committee
to
discuss
and
without
having
the
full
picture
of
yeah.
You
know
of
what
we're
interested
in
what
the
city's
interested
in
and
then
figuring
out
how
to
get
to
something
final.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
There
has
been
a
a
movement
to
approve
cassette
agenda,
minus
A3,
A5,
A7,
A8
and
A9,
and
then
by
council
member
Reed
and
has
been
seconded
by
council
member
newsma.
Is
there
any
question
all
those
in
favor?
Well,
let's
do
roll
call.
A
D
Yeah,
just
just
so,
this
doesn't
become
a
long
drawn
out
conversation.
So
so
we
actually
approved
a
a
part
of
this.
We
didn't
approve
the
contract
already,
but
we've
we've
approved
80
active
working
hours
per
month.
I
was
a
part
of
the
original
motion.
The
day
we
passed
the
budget
as
well
as
the
the
dollar
amount
council
member
newsma,
which
I'm
sure
he'll
provide
comment,
has
provided
some
concern
in
writing,
which
is
nothing
that
can't
be
addressed.
D
I
wish
I
would
have
known
sooner
because
we
could
have
worked
something
into
the
contract
to
address
the
concern
that
you
provided:
Deputy
manager,
Stone,
bank
I,
think
quite
simply
just
so.
We
can
hone
in
on
it.
It's
just
trying
to
identify
what
the
breach
of
contract
cause
is,
which
is
simple
matter
in
contracts
that
could
be
addressed
again,
would
have
would
have
loved
to
know
beforehand,
but
I've
already
reached
out
to
work
to
be
they're
more
than
happy
to
to
talk
about
adding
that
language.
D
There
were
some
other
concerns
about
whether
or
not
we're
stuck
at
80
hours
and
and
as
I
have
communicators
and
staff.
We
can
fluctuate
down
the
4D
active
working
hours
after
three
months,
if
we're,
if
it's
determined
that
that
we
don't
need
80
hours,
80
hours,
though
it
was
determined,
we
needed
80
hours
based
on
about
an
hour,
long
discussion
that
works
be
had
with
the
five
council
members
who
have
decided
to
participate
in
this
program.
So
it
was
not
a
number
that
was
thrown
out
of
thin
air.
D
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah,
to
more
explicitly
State
my
concerns.
C
The
contract
as
as
it's
written
is,
is
not
very
fairy
to
the
city
in
that
we
have
no
off
ramp
or
right
to
terminate
the
contract
for
lack
of
performance
by
the
contractor,
which,
just
as
a
general
practice,
is
probably
not
a
good
idea,
we're
on
the
hook
for
the
full,
sixty
seven
thousand
dollars,
whether
or
not
they
are
performing
up
to
our
satisfaction.
So
that's
that's.
C
My
main
concern
I
I'm
on
the
fence
whether
or
not
this
is
even
with
that
with
that
issue
corrected,
if
this
is
the
best
way
to
proceed,
because
I
really
do
think
that
the
best
way
to
support
council
is
to
have
some
people
on
staff
and
in
this
building
rather
than
remote.
J
Thank
you,
yes,
I
would
also,
second,
that
I
think
we
should
have
an
off-ramp.
Can
we
hold
this
so
that
we
can
get
that
in
also
is
the
80
000
just
for
five
members
just.
J
D
It's
a
pool
of
80
active
working
hours
that
part
we've
already
approved,
plus
the
dollar
amount
active
working
hours,
which
means
they're
they're
only
pay
when
they're
actively
working
on
a
task
or
assignment
for
Council
Members.
They
work
with
other
clients
and
again
their
recommendation
based
on
conversations
with
five
council
members
is
that
we
would
need
about
80
active
working
hours
a
month.
J
D
As
many
as
it
was
the
whole
Council
but
I'm
saying
it
was
they
interview,
five
council
members
and
the
ones
that
did
not
participate
in
those
interviews,
we
kind
of
modeled
activities
that
we
thought
the
remaining
council
members
would
need
based
on
the
council
members
that
did
participate.
So
that's
what
they
thought
the
full
Council
would
need,
but
they
interviewed
five
council
members.
J
D
We
can
hold
yeah,
we
can
hold
it,
that's
what
I
was
saying
I
just
it's
it's
again
in
contractor
it's
just
a
breach
of
contract.
It's
a
simple
thing
that
that
we
can
add.
If
I
had
more
time,
I
would
have
called
them
sooner
and
worked
it
into
the
contract.
I've
already
told
them
we'll
hold
it
tonight
and
make
sure
that's
in
the
final
contract.
I
Yeah
so
I
I
I,
obviously
support
tabling
this
to
get
the
the
contract
updated.
I
I
do.
Thank
all
of
us
up
here.
Understand
that
we
need
assistance.
I
agree
with
councilman
brunusma
that
there
would
be
a
benefit
in
the
long
term
to
having
you
know,
in-house
staff
that
are
responsible
for
the
council
members
and
the
city
manager
and
other
staff
members
similar
to
Allison,
maybe
bolster
Allison's
team.
I
There
I
think
that
would
be
most
helpful,
but
I
certainly
hear
councilman
Burns
that
in
the
media
you
know
we
can't
wait
another
year
without
having
some
kind
of
assistance,
and
so
it
makes
sense
to
pass
this
so
I
I
will
move
to
table
this
to
until
our
next
meeting
hold.
J
Yeah,
so
just
one
last
comment
and
councilmember
Burns
I'm,
sorry,
there's
a
lot
in
the
city.
It's
hard
to
like
take
care
of
having
extra
conversations
and
meetings
on
every
item
coming
up,
so
I
apologize,
I
mean
I
personally
would
prefer
to
have
either
funds
allocated
to
me
to
hire
somebody
that
understands
Evanston
understands
my
ward
or
someone
in
house
who's
really
familiar
just
for
the
record.
I
mean
I.
J
That
would
be
preferable
to
me
to
council
member
Reed's
point
to
bolster
Allison's
position
or
again
to
just
allocate
funds
directly
to
hire
someone
that
you
know
knows
your
ward
knows.
You
understands
your
policies
and
policy
objectives.
So
thank.
I
Just
because
I
I
want
to
create
the
neural
pathway
here,
I
think
we're
going
to
need
more
than
one
employee
I
think
we
should
start
thinking
about
that.
I
think
just
adding
one
more
Allison
wouldn't
be
the
building.
The
capacity
I
think
we
need,
as
a
council,
so
I'll
say
that
and
then
I
will
move
to
table.
This
is
one
meeting
acceptable,
two
meetings,
that's.
D
I
We
need
I
will
move
to
table
this
until
our
next
meeting.
A
All
right,
we
council,
member
Burns,
that's
fine
is.
A
K
D
A
So
we're
gonna
do
Voice
vote.
D
I
did
want
to
say
because
I
think
people
when
they
hear
virtual
executive
assistant,
they
think
almost
like
a
customer
service
team,
where
every
time
we
call
we're
going
to
have
a
different
person.
This
is
going
to
be
like
these.
This
will
be
two
virtual
executive
assistants
that
that
work
for
the
City
of
Evanston,
and
we
it's
not
like
we
will
be
cycling
through
different
people,
so
in
the
same
way
that
an
employee,
an
in-person
employee,
would
need
some
time
to
to
learn,
Evanston
and
get
caught
up.
D
A
virtual
executive
assistant
would
be
but
I.
This
is
not
an
artificial
intelligence
assistant.
This
is
a
real
human
being.
That
will
be
a
two
in
fact,
that
will
be
assigned
to
the
City
of
Evanston
that
that
can
will
have
to
get
acquainted
with
Evanston,
just
like
anyone
else
would
that's
all
true.
Thank.
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
a
discussion,
so
I
pulled
this
off,
because
I
just
wanted
to
take
note
that
there's
a
full
waiver
for
the
mwebe
but
I
was,
and
that
raised
concerns
for
me
as
a
council
member
and
as
a
Committee
Member.
But
when
I
asked
about
this
full
waiver,
there
were
no
companies
and
it
is
evanston-based.
I
thought
it
was
Evanston
paste
nope.
We
don't
have
anything
in
Evanston
that
does
this.
Is
that
correct.
B
A
Thank
you:
okay,
council
member
Kelly,
then
council,
member
Burns.
J
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
the
questioning
on
this.
Is
there
any
particular
way
that
we
as
a
city,
make
a
point
of
ensuring
that
our
local
firms
are
aware
of
proposals
so
that
we
can
better
solicit
participation
from
our
local
companies?.
L
Hello,
my
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer.
So
when
staff
is
aware
of
a
company
existing
that
can
do
this
work,
we
do
send
out
a
notice
of
advertisement
to
specific
companies,
and
so
if
we
were
aware
that
there
is
a
local
business
that
can
do
that,
we
would
have
sent
it
to
them.
I
know
the
next
question
is:
were
we
aware
and
I?
Actually
don't
have
that
information
handy?
But
I
can
look
that
up
and
let
you
know.
B
A
D
I
just
I
wanted
to
just
just
point
out
and
one
to
say
thank
you
for
staff
for
continuing
to
include
the
the
waiver
disclosure
as
part
of
the
agenda.
That
was
something
that
the
nwb
requested
and
our
staff
was
was,
was
happy
to
to
do
and
and
I
continue
to
see
that
which
is
helpful
because
sometimes
things
get
lost
in
those
big
packages.
So,
thank
you.
That's
all.
A
Thank
you,
but
that's
it.
Are
there
any
other
questions?
Okay,
it
has
been
moved
and
properly
seconded.
Can
we
have
we're
so
small
voice
votes,
all
those
in
favor?
Anyone
opposed
hearing
none.
This
passes
unanimously.
A
Next
A7
approval
of
change
order.
Number
two
with
Smith
Group
Incorporated
for
the
Evanston
Shoreline
repairs,
RFQ
2145
can
I.
Have
a
motion
I'll
make
the
motion.
I
A
C
L
Okay,
my
name
is
Laura
Biggs
I'm,
a
city
engineer,
so
this
item
is
related
to
the
special
order
of
business
for
the
Ada
access
to
the
dog
beach.
That
is
a
discussion
about
we've
presented
with
a
couple
of
options
by
our
consultant
on
the
council.
We
seek
Council
Direction
on
if
they
prefer
one
of
those
and
if
they
want
to
proceed
this
year
with
it
or
budgeted
for
next
year.
We,
this
would
be
the
engineering
design
work.
L
If
we
decide
to
proceed
with
it
this
year,
we
could
award
this
the
schedule's
really
tight
on
this
project.
It's
if
we
decide
to
construct
it
this
year,
it's
going
to
be
pretty
difficult
to
meet
it
and
delaying
the
award
of
this
Engineering
Services
would
not
be
helpful
in
meeting
the
schedule.
However,
consent
agenda
is
after
the
discussion,
so
even
if
you
approve
it
now,
you
would
still
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
against
it
or
to
hold
it
on
the
cons
when
the
consent
agenda
is
reviewed
at
the
end
of
the
council
meeting.
C
Can
just
so
we're
not
we're
not
voting
on
which
design
option
to
pursue
at
this
point?
That's
SP2!
Yes,
all
right!
So
we
are
just
right
now:
preliminarily
pre-approving
the
design
phase
of
this
project,
pending
the
outcome
of
the
discussion
later
at
Council.
Yes,.
L
However,
you
can
also
just
choose
to
hold
it
at
this
meeting
as
well,
and
then
that
would
automatically
create
a
delay
which
may
be
something
that
the
city
council
desires
for
time
to
consider.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
further
conversation
seeing
none
I
like
for
a
Voice
vote
for
A7
all
those
in
favor.
C
A
C
A
It
has
been
moved
by
Divine
council,
member
Reed,
I'm,
sorry
and
seconded
by
council.
Member
news.
Is
there
a
question?
Are
there
questions
council,
member
Reed?
Yes,.
I
I
have
a
question
or
really
a
question
statement
for
staff.
I
know
SATs
here
Laura.
Whoever
wants
to
take
it
so
I.
So
we,
this
Council,
allocated
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
an
art
Park
to
create
an
art
Park
in
the
eighth
Ward,
which
is
at
kind
of
the
tail
end
of
where
this
project
will
be
I've
had
Folks
at
Ward
meetings.
Discuss
this
so
to
home.
I
In
on
my
opponent
on
the
point,
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
a
part
of
this
I
know
we're
just
approving
the
grant
here,
but
I
don't
know
if
we're
submitting
any
specific
plans
to
you
know
whatever
the
agency
is,
that
would
be
giving
us
the
grant
funds
I.
Think
important
in
this
would
be
to
create
a
good
pedestrian
infrastructure
connecting
where
the
Mulford
Viaduct
Bridges
to
the
other
side
of
the
street,
where
the
storage
facility
is
creating
a
crosswalk
there.
I
One
folks
use
that
as
a
crosswalk
naturally
already,
but
it
would
be
really
I
think
in
particular,
if
we
add
some
infrastructure
there
and
invest
in
our
park,
it
would
be
really
important
to
add
that
crosswalk
there
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
either
that
is
a
part
of
it
already
or
that
it
could
be
a
part
of
it.
K
I
Wonderful
I
just
wanted
to
be
sure
of
that.
Thank
you
very
much
and
then
certainly
I
have
not
reviewed
the
full
plan
that
you're
submitting
to
for
the
sdp
grant.
But
is
there
an
opportunity
to
make
maybe
small
amendments
to
that
after
we've
submitted
it
and
if
they
approve
us
absolutely.
K
I
I
certainly
would
be
happy
to
have
you
two
at
award
meeting
in
the
near
future
to
discuss
this
sure.
Thank
you.
That's
it.
Thank
you
all.
A
C
I
A
I
Yes
can
I,
who
Laura
is
this
you
busy
night
for
you
or
is
it
someone
else.
I
You
director
Desai,
can
you
can
we
start
off
with
just
you
explaining
for
all
of
us
a
bit
about
this
and
then
I
have
a
couple
questions?
Okay,.
M
And
good
evening,
chair
members
of
the
committee,
he
says
they
said
Chief
Financial
Officer.
So
the
purpose
of
this
reimbursement
resolution
is
that
we
can
just
go
back
because
generally,
we
issue
the
bonds
in
late
summer
or
the
fall,
but
the
projects.
Obviously,
if
once
approved
by
the
city
council
as
a
part
of
the
budget,
we
keep
on
awarding
in
January
February
March.
I
I
I
M
So
the
line
of
credit
is
obviously
carries
the
higher
rate
of
interest.
It
varies,
I
mean
fair,
is
expected
to
raise
that
I
think
the
rates,
maybe
a
couple
of
times
more
and
obviously
it's
tied
to
that.
So
generally,
it's
a
lot
higher
and
this
is
where
I
think
the
we
are
going
to
have
a
discussion
I.
We
just
had
a
question
about
this.
M
That
can
be
the
council
talk
about
it
after
the
kind
of
detailed
discussion
at
the
finance
and
budget
once
the
market
stabilized,
but
that
is
the
downside
of
the
line
of
credit.
The
good
thing
of
the
line
of
credit
is
yes,
you
pay
the
interest
on
when
you
use
it
and
the
amount
you
use
it.
The
downside
is,
it's
always
kind
of
tied
into
those
it's
a
variable
rate
so
and
a
long
term.
I
So
I
hear
you
in
the
long
term
the
issues
about
using
a
line
of
credit,
but
this
from
what
I
just
heard,
you
explain,
is
more
of
a
short
term.
M
No,
we
are
talking,
but
here
the
reimbursement
resolution
out
of
the
bond
funds,
so
which
would
be
a
long-term
thing.
So
and
again,
the
purpose
of
reimbursement
resolution
is
what
like.
If
the
projects
are
already
funded,
I
mean
the
projects
are
approved
to
be
funded
out
of
Geo
bonds
and
the
department
like
the
public
works
and
other
they
are
moving
forward
with
the
things
right
now
we
are
going
to
use
our
own
money.
If
the
council
approves
the
bond,
I
will
come
up
with
the
bond
ordinance
for
the
approval.
M
If
the
council
is
okay
with
that,
we
can
reimburse
that
because
there's
always
a
gap
now,
if
we
don't
do
the
reimbursement
resolution
now
and
say
in
June,
July
city
council
says:
yeah
go
ahead
and
issue
the
10
million
dollar
Bond,
whatever
the
money
has
been
spent
before
that
we
cannot
reimburse
out
of
the
the
bond
process.
So
this
is
the
whole
purpose
of
reimbursement
resolution
is
to
have
that
kind
of
money
be
out
of
that
bond
process.
That's
the
whole
purpose
of
this
resolution.
I
Thank
you
and
two
questions
to
wrap
up
here.
Do
you
one?
Do
you
feel
that
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
approved
tonight,
or
is
this
something
that
we
could
take
a
couple
weeks
to
to
ponder
and
think
about
absolutely.
M
I
So
with
that
in
mind
and
to
hopefully
cut
discussion
short
on
this-
that,
with
with
all
of
that
I'm,
going
to
move
to
refer
this
to
finance
and
budget
for
further
discussion,
and
then
we
can
bring
it
back
on
the
27th.
A
I
I
A
Thank
you,
okay.
So,
as
a
chair,
I
have
a
statement
to
read
and
we
will
actually,
we
won't
really
have
discussion
because
we
are
at
negotiation.
Phase
and
I
will
read
the
statement
from
The
Gents
Jensen's
lawyer
group
upon
initial
review
of
the
city's
draft.
There
are
several
substantive
areas
where
the
city
and
chance
Jensen's,
Garden,
Evanston,
diverge.
Jjge
is
in
the
process
of
providing
a
redraft
to
the
city
which
we
expect
to
deliver
by
close
of
business
on
Friday
February
24th.
A
We
respectfully
request
that
the
city
include
this
email
and
its
submission
of
the
lease
to
the
A
and
PW
for
ampw
visibility
and
awareness
of
the
ongoing
lease
negotiations
and
future
revisions
to
the
lease
as
currently
presented,
TJ
Cuban
and
it's
the
legal
firm.
So
at
this
time
we
really
don't
have
discussion,
as
this
is
still
in
works.
Are
there
any
questions
about
that?
Oh
council,
member
Reed,
yeah.
I
I
do
want
to
I
know
we're
still
in
negotiation,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure.
Nick
has
and
legal
have
what
they
need
here
to
get
this
done
and
if
having
spoken
with
everyone,
but
but
I,
do
wonder
if
it
would
be
helpful
for
all
of
us.
I
If,
potentially,
there
were
two
leases
here
or
some
kind
of
bifurcation
either
it
may
be
in
one
lease
but
I
think
most
appropriately
and
two,
where
there'd
be
one
lease
for
the
grounds
and
one
set
of
conditions
for
the
grounds
and
another
lease
for
the
Coach,
House
and
Greenhouse
itself.
You
know
because
there
there
may
be
value
in
not
having
a
40-year
lease
for
the
Coach
House
and
the
greenhouse,
and
so
I
wonder
if
that
can
help
us
move
this
along
and.
I
And
I
guess
so
certainly
want
to
hear
whatever
you
want
to
say
there,
but
also
I
guess:
do
you
feel
that
you
have
the
direction
that
you
need
from
this
body
to
go
forth
and
negotiate
whatever
you
need
to
negotiate?
Yes,.
N
My
understanding
is
that
current
lease
is
drafted
and
from
discussions
with
James
Jensen
previously
is
the
main
capital
project
involved
in
this
is
the
restoration
of
the
Coach
House
in
the
greenhouse
so
to
have
sort
of
two
separate
leases
for
the
grounds
and
the
the
Coach
House
in
the
greenhouse
I'm,
not
sure
that
accomplishes
the
tenants
proposed
goal
and
that's
the
primary
reason
why
they
want
such
a
long
least
is
my
understanding
and
I
could
be,
could
be
wrong,
but.
N
N
Direction
for
us-
and
secondly,
there
I've
been
in
touch
with
their
attorneys
by
phone
and
by
email.
The
statement
was
read
from
their
email,
so
they
they
I'm
waiting
for
a
proposal,
probably
this
week
from
them,
and
also
a
meeting
to
talk
with
them
to
to
talk
through.
Maybe
even
some
of
those
issues,
including
maybe
separating
the
leases
out.
A
All
right
council,
member
nusma.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'll,
just
added
a
few
more
comments
and
commentary
Nick
to
help
you
inform
help,
inform
your
negotiations
Idol.
My
personal
opinion
is
I
like
the
direction.
This
is
headed
in
in
section
one
with
regards
to
the
language
that,
at
least
on
the
Mansion
would
be
superior
to
this
lease
in
the
long
run.
I
hope
we
can
find
a
way
that
Jens
Jensen
and
our
hypothetical
player
to
be
named
later
are
working
hand
in
hand.
C
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
focusing
on
that
player
to
be
named
later,
since
that's
such
that
you
know
more
significantly.
Impactful
on
the
community
I
suspect
that
the
Jensen
group
might
not
be
super
thrilled
with
this
language.
So
I'll
leave
that
up
to
you
guys
to
to
hash
out
the
details.
C
C
I
interpret
that
for
both
the
Jen's
Jensen
group
and
the
Mansion
group
I'm
uncomfortable
with
that,
I
would
like
whoever
is
in
charge
of
turning
off
the
lights
for
the
next
40
years
to
be
responsible
for
paying
the
electric
bill,
and
it
can't
be
that
difficult
if
we
need
to
set
up
a
separate
account
for
the
mansion
and
a
separate
electrical
account
for
that
for
the
other
half
of
the
property
of
the
other
part
of
the
property
I'd
like
to
proceed
in
that
direction,
and
then
the
question
about
I
write
a
first
refusal
for
the
fire
pit
area.
C
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
allow
appropriate
access
to
that
amenity
to
everybody
in
town.
That's
been
using
it
for
years
and
years,
I
think
that's
important
and
council
member
Revell
has
done
some
research
on
that
I
believe
and
then
there's
some
some
language
issues
that
I
can
just
feed
you
offline.
N
Certainly
the
utilities
issue
I
think
staff
probably
shares
the
same
concerns
as
you.
However,
right
now
I
believe
it's
my
understanding.
The
utilities
for
the
mansion
and
the
coach
house
and
Greenhouse
are
tied
together
so
until
that
is
separated
if
it,
if
at
all
a
lot
of
infrastructure
issues,
potentially
there,
the
city
and
I,
think
right
now,
the
draft
that's
highlighted,
because
it's
something
that
the
city
actually
has
to
work
out.
If
we
wanted
to
try
and
separate
those
two,
what
was
the
last
one?
N
You
just
said
sorry,
the
fire
pit,
the
fire
pit,
so
in
Consulting
with
Parks
and
Rec,
the
fire
pit
is
something
that
the
city
has
actually
permitted
in
the
past
and
the
city
wants
to
continue
to
maintain
issuing
those
permits.
So
we
didn't
want
the
tenant,
whichever
tenant,
whether
it
be
the
Mansion
or
James
Jensen,
to
to
stop
the
city
from
being
able
to
issue
that
permit,
which
is
why
the
language
that's
in
there
is
the
right
of
first
refusal
that
could
also
be
negotiated
as
well.
N
N
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
still.
When
do
we
anticipate
that
this
will
come
back
to
this
body.
I
Correct
yeah,
okay
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
both
from
this
body
and
from
your
perspective
that
if
a
if
a
split
lease
between
the
grounds
and
the
coach
house
is
I,
don't
know
if
maybe
a
straw
poll
or,
if
that
you
know
just
to
give
you.
If,
because
we
originally
gave
you
direction
to
negotiate
one
lease
and
so
do
you
need
anything
further
to
potentially
negotiate
to.
N
No
okay
and
to
be
quite
candid,
one
of
the
suggestions
early
on
was
a
memorandum
of
an
understanding
for
at
least
the
grounds
so
that
the
city
could
have
the
services
of
the
garden
group
to
maintain
the
grounds,
but
that
did
not
comport
with
their
fundraising
efforts.
So
if
what
comes
out
of
these
negotiations
is
a
lease
for
the
Coach
House
and
greenhouse
because
of
the
capital
Improvement
and
some
other
agreement
for
the
grounds.
That's
perfectly
fine
and.