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A
B
A
A
A
With
four,
we
have
a
quorum
wonderful,
we
have
a
motion
for
the
minutes.
C
C
D
All
right
I'll
make
a
motion
on
the
minutes
of
July
10th.
A
C
F
Thank
you,
I
didn't
make
two
I,
don't
understand
what
the
the
deliverables
are,
or
this
1.572
million
dollar
recommendation.
F
Regarding
pfas
treatment
technique,
study
services,
I'm
a
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
getting
into
the
pfas
issue.
This
is
something
that
the
mwrd
covered
up
for
a
decade.
Finally,
there's
been
a
lot
of
activity
regarding
it,
but
I,
don't
know
what
we're
getting
for
this
amount
of
money
and
I.
Don't
know
why
Evanston
is
paying
for
it.
F
This
is
something
mwrd
should
be
paying
for
I
understood
there
was
some
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
of
settlements
from
manufacturers
where's
that
money,
and
why
aren't?
Why
isn't
that
money
paying
for
this
and
then,
lastly,
on
this
issue,.
F
Why
we
keep
doing
this?
Jonathan
is
Jonathan
in
the
room.
I,
don't
know
if
he's
on
a
console
this
this
meeting.
But
why
are
we
buying
gas-fired
utility
trucks?
Why
are
we
buying
a
gas-fired
ambulance?
There
are
electric
vehicles
out
there
in
all
these
categories
and
the
city
shouldn't
be
continuing.
We
have
climate
change
deniers
in
the
either
in
this
Council
or
in
the
staff,
and
they
take
every
opportunity
to
circumvent
going
all
electric
on
on
the
fleet.
I,
don't
understand
it!
Why
you
keep
putting.
A
Yeah.
Thank
you
that
if
there's
no
one
else
for
public
comment,
then
we
are
ready
to
continue
with
our
agenda.
That
brings
us
to
the
consent
calendar.
Are
there
any
items
that
folks
would
like
to
pull
off.
C
A
Okay
with
that,
if
there's
nothing
further
pulled
off
the
agenda,
may
I
have
a
motion
for
the
consent
agenda,
minus
items,
A2
Ace,
eight,
a
nine,
a
10
11
and
a
twelve.
A
D
C
D
Thank
you.
Mr
chair
I'll,
ask
Mr
King
from
our
water
treatment
Department
to
address
some
of
the
questions
that
we
had
previously
communicated
about,
and
we're
also
brought
up
in
public
comment,
beginning
with
the
cost
for
this
and
who
is
going
to
be
bearing
the
cost.
B
Good
evening,
chair
Reed
members
of
the
of
the
committee
Daryl
King
Water,
Production,
bureau,
chief
and
so
in
in
terms
of
the
cost,
potentially
there's
been
a
settlement
from
two
of
the
major
manufacturers
responsible
for
pfas
3M
in
Dupont.
The
the
city
is
a
participant
in
I
I.
B
Guess
it's
a
class
action
that
may
be
the
wrong
term,
and
so,
if,
if
those
settlements
are
approved
by
the
courts,
there
is
a
potential
for
reimbursement,
for
you
know,
costs
associated
for
the
municipalities
or
utilities
that
are
included
in
that
for
costs
associated
with
you
know,
treatment,
construction,
you
know,
studies,
those
sorts
of
things.
You
know
how
much
one
utility
will
get.
There
are
some
calculation
that'll
that
they'll
go
through
to
figure
out.
B
You
know
the
impact
of
the
of
pfos
contamination
on
that
supply,
and-
and
so
there
is
potential
for
reimbursement
of
of
this
study.
D
D
Percentage
of
it
so
we're
only
paying
14
of
this
correct.
Okay-
and
you
had
indicated
earlier
that
one
of
the
reasons
you're
recommending
CDM
Smith
over
the
low
bidder
is
that
CDM
Smith
is
including
several
additional
treatment
techniques
in
their
evaluation.
If
you
could
elaborate
a
little
bit.
B
So
the
original
request
for
proposal
that
went
out
included
was
the
evaluation
of
five
treatment
techniques,
powdered
activated,
carbon
granular
activated,
carbon
ion
exchange,
Nano,
filtration
and
reverse
osmosis,
and
so
CDM
Smith's
proposal
is
covering
all
five
of
those
treatment
techniques
in
their
base
scope.
They.
They
also
had
an
additional
optional
task
that
the
the
team
thought
would
enhance
the
study,
but
within
their
base
scope
there
were
eight
tasks
and
evaluating
all
five
treatment.
Technique
were
included
in
that
and.
D
B
I
I
think
it's,
you
know
any
consultant
qualified
to
do
this
type
of
work.
You
know,
has
an
opportunity
to
make
money,
make
a
profit
off
of
this
study
or
any
other
study
that
happens.
You
know
the
the
more
regulations
are
changing.
Some
utilities
may
be
forced
regulatory
wise
into
implementing
treatment,
which
is
going
to
trigger
studies,
to
evaluate
you,
know
the
appropriate
or
the
feasible
options
and
the
construction
costs
and
all
of
those
things.
B
So
you
know
this
study
is,
is
specific
to
to
Evanston
to
our
source,
water
and
our
water
quality
and.
D
B
Water
treatment
plant,
our
water
treatment
plant,
specifically
it'll
it'll,
even
include
once
once
the
evaluation
is
done
and
they
say
hey
out
of
the
five.
These
two
or
three
options
are
feasible,
conceptual
designs
will
be
put
in
place,
schematics
will
be
put
in
place.
B
Life
cycle
costs,
probable
construction
costs,
we'll
we'll
have
all
of
that
information
if
regulatory
wise
were
forced
to
implement
treatment
or
if
the
city
council
desires
that
we
Implement
treatment
will
know
what
the
costs
are
and
and
what's
feasible
as
part
of
our
treatment
technique
at
our
water
plant.
Great.
A
D
If
it's
all
right
with
you,
Mr
chair,
I'll,
move
items,
a
eight
A9,
a
10
and
11
together,
since
my
questions
are
all
somewhat
interrelated.
A
D
You
Mr
chair,
I'll,
ask
Mr
cholik
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
which
we
corresponded
about
writing
earlier
today.
I
just
kind
of
want
to
get
this
conversation
on
the
record
and
in
public,
so
starting
with
fuel
purchase,
Mr
trunk,
you
indicated
or
I,
had
asked
for
fuel
usage
over
the
last
few
years
and
you
were
able
at
fairly
short
notice,
to
provide
fuel
purchases
going
back
to
2020
with
a
little
bit
more
time.
D
E
That's
correct
good
evening,
chair
members
of
the
committee
Sean
cholick
division,
manager
of
facilities
and
Fleet
Management.
Yes,
we
were
able
to
pull
together
the
numbers
of
gallons
that
we
procure
each
of
these
last
three
years
with
some
additional
time.
We
can
have
staff,
take
a
look
and
try
to
break
down
how
much
we've
actually
expended
from
the
pumps
to
the
different
vehicles
on
a
monthly
basis
yeah,
because
the
general
idea
of
how
much
each
month
we
we
dispense
because.
E
Right
sometimes
we
see
that
the
levels
are
getting
kind
of
low
towards
the
end
of
the
year
and
maybe
at
the
very
last
part
of
the
year
we
ordered
another
truckload.
So
you
know
it's
hard
to
really
judge
based
upon
what
we
purchase
each
year,
exactly
right.
E
Yeah
each
vehicle
has
a
card
that
shows
you
know
when
they
go
and
they
fill
up.
It
shows
how
much
is
being
dispensed
that
vehicle
okay.
So
we
can
run
a
report
for
the
whole
month
and
show
exactly
how
much
right
we've
discussed.
D
E
We've
provided
them
with
a
the
vendor
with
a
number
of
items
that
they've
asked
for
in
regards
to
fuel
usage
yeah.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
you
know,
depending
on
the
season
you'll
see
in
the
winter
time,
I'm
sure
that
the
you
know,
amount
of
fuel
we're
using
is
going
up
is
Edgar's.
Public
Works
team
is
is
out
on
the
street.
You
know
24
hours
in
a
lot
of
cases.
Fighting
snow,
so
you'll
see
a
fluctuation
for
month
tomorrow,
right
right.
D
I
mentioned
the
EV
Fleet
study,
which
is
well
overdue.
Now,
yes,
I,
probably
am
not
the
only
one
who's
getting
a
little
bit
antsy
with
that
one.
So
so
what
can
we
expect
and
can
we
expect
any
concessions
out
of
this
supplier,
since
they
are
five
months
overdue
right.
E
So
staff
has
been
having
a
series
of
conversations
with
them.
We
met
again
with
them
today.
I
also
expressed
my
concern
about
the
amount
of
time
it's
taking.
E
E
D
Now
to
the
issue
of
the
vehicles
that
you're
requesting
to
purchase
to
F-550
trucks
and
an
ambulance,
our
electric
vehicles,
an
option
for
those
type
of
some.
E
Type
of
purchase,
so
they
are
starting
to
make
I've
seen
one
electric
ambulance.
That
is
seems
to
be
like
a
prototype
that
has
been
used.
E
We
also
want
to
make
sure
it's
the
right
fit
for
our
for
our
team
right
if
the,
if
the
cab
Port,
if
the
body
portion
of
it
doesn't
work
for
the
fire
department,
you
know,
then
it's,
then
it's
not
going
to
meet.
You
know
our
operational
needs.
So
there's
a
couple
different
things:
we've
got
availability
that
we
have
to
worry
about,
and
we
also
don't
want
to
be.
E
E
So
we
are
going
to
continue
to
look
into
these
options.
This
particular
ambulance
happens
to
be
available
right
now,
which
is
key
to
us
in
our
operations
and
key
to
the
fire
department.
They
need
to
get
an
additional
unit
so
that
they
can
staff
it
and
and
get
it,
get
it
out
on
the
streets,
and
so
the
beauty
of
that
one
is
that
it's
available
now
so
and
with
the
ambulances.
E
You
know
we're
we're
a
little
cautious
about
what
we
buy
and
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
options
out
there,
but
we'll
continue
to
look
at
them
and
then
for
the
f-550s.
It's
it's
a
similar
thing.
We
haven't
seen
anything
come
out
yet
that
is
reputable
enough
and
and
that
we
feel
is
going
to
work
for
Public
Works
operations.
E
So
we
are
proceeding
cautiously
with
that
you
know
the
availability
is
the
key,
but
also
operational
needs
and
making
sure
that
it's
reliable
and
also
making
sure
that
we
have
the
charging
infrastructure
in
place
to
power
these.
What
we
don't
want
to
do
is
put
the
cart
before
the
horse
and
then
you
know,
buy
the
equipment,
but
not
have
the
infrastructure
to
charge.
D
E
We
do
understand
that
staff
understands
that,
in
fact,
we've
gone
from
having
two
EVS
to
I
believe
it's
13
or
14.
Now
within
you
know
a
year
year
and
a
half,
so
we
are
pursuing
it,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
we
plan
it
out
properly
and
and
make
good
choices
and.
D
Part
of
that,
as
you
mentioned,
is
making
sure
we
have
adequate
charging
infrastructure.
So
we
are
being
asked
to
approve
a
number
of
chargers
both
at
the
Civic
Center
and
at
the
service
center
correct,
correct,
given
the
fact
that
it's
not
beyond
the
realm
of
possibility
that
Evanston
City
operations
will
no
longer
be
at
this
building
at
some
point
in
the
not
too
distant
future
and
I'm
not
saying
any
decisions
have
been
made,
please
don't
anybody
to
read
any
more
into
it
than
that.
D
We
are
going
to
be
having
a
discussion
about
what
to
do
with
this
building
before
too
long
I'm
wondering
how
appropriate
it
is
to
invest
in
yeah
in
this
particular
location,
since
we
might
not-
and
emphasis
on,
might
not
be
here
for
very
long
right.
E
So
I
know
that's
been
a
discussion
about
the
future
of
this
building
for,
for
quite
a
long
time,
I
don't
have
a
magic
Cube.
That
shows
me
what's
going
on
in
the
future.
All
I
know
is
that
our
operations
are
currently
housed
here,
and
the
majority
of
the
vehicles
that
we
would
be
charging
would
be
from
the
Civic
Center
because
they
are
home
based
here.
The
people
that
drive
them
are
home
base
here
at
the
Civic
Center.
E
So
right
now
you
know
our
intent
is
to
make
sure
because
real
estate's
not
a
premium
it's
at
a
premium.
Here
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
locations
that
we
can
store
extra
vehicles
at
the
service
center
and
then
the
logistics
of
getting
folks
that
are
home
based
here
at
the
Civic
Center
over
to
a
different
facility
to
pick
up
a
vehicle.
That's
challenging!
So
that's
why
we
we're
recommending
that
we
move
forward
with
installing
them
here.
E
D
E
Right
we're
going
to
do
direct
boring.
You
know
to
get
to
get
them
in
place,
yeah
that
that
all
plays
into
the
cost.
Also,
all.
D
Right,
so
we
need
them
now.
Yes,
how
are
the
current
EVS
being
charged
if
we
don't
have
so.
E
They're
currently
being
charged,
we
pull
them
into
the
fleet
into
the
fleet
garage
we
plug
them
into
a
conventional
Outlet
or
we
have
staff
charge
them
up
at
the
charge.
Point
Public
charging
stations.
The
issue
with
that
is.
If
we
have
City
Vehicles
parked
at
the
public
ones,
people
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
to
provide
Power
to
their
personal
vehicles,
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
stations
that
are
delegated
simply
for
municipal
use.
E
A
You
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
further
comment?
Seeing
none
I
just
actually
have
a
quick
question,
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
didn't
notice
we
didn't
get
to.
What
is
the
reason
for
the
delay
in
the
electrification
study.
E
So
the
the
delay
in
the
electrification
study
is
is
basically
the
vendor
had
some
turnover
in
Staffing,
and
in
addition
to
that,
you
know
every
time
they
would
they
would
change
Staffing
the
information.
Maybe
it
would
take
them
a
while
to
get
back
up
to
speed
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
also
just
aren't
confident
in
the
way
it's
structured
or
the
way
it's
set
up.
We
don't
think
it
reads
very
easy.
E
We
think
that
they
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
the
formatting,
but
again
primarily
the
right
sizing
portion,
I,
don't
think
they've
because
of
the
turnover
of
staff.
I,
don't
think
they've
really
been
able
to
to
dig
in
and
get
down
to
the
bottom
of
that,
so
the
electrification
portion,
they're,
pretty
good
they've
got
a
lot
of
good
information
in
there.
That's
going
to
help
inform
our
decision,
making.
A
That's
fine,
but
the
turnover
on
staff
is
the
concern
and
I've
sparked
more
questions.
Is
it
on
this
particular
topic?
I
will
know,
go
ahead.
C
Yeah
one
of
the
obviously
sensitive
about
this
because
it's
a
public
discussion
but
I
think
it's
worth
asking.
If
we
still
have
confidence
that
they
can
complete
the
work.
E
So
that
was
something
that
staff
did
discuss
a
little
bit
today
and
right
now
we
feel
like
they're
at
a
point
where
they're
almost
there,
and
we
want
to
give
them
just
a
little
more
time
to
see
if
they're
there,
but
again.
If,
if
we
find
that,
we
don't
feel
they're
going
to
be
able
to
complete
it
or
to
complete
it
to
our
satisfaction,
then
we
are
going
to
have
to
revisit
that
with
them
and.
E
A
Thank
you
for
that,
and
then
I
I
want
to
note
that
you
know
as
far
as
our
our
actual
electrification,
Oslo
Norway
has
been
a
leader
in
this
I
would
encourage
staff
to
look
at
their
carbon
budget
and
in
fact
they
have
an
ordinance
that
requires
that
all
Municipal
construction,
and
maybe
all
construction
of
the
city,
but
certainly
Municipal
construction-
has
to
be
carbon,
neutral
and
all
electric
and
they
have
electric
excavators
and
electric.
A
You
know
anything,
you
can
imagine
that
a
dump
truck
that's
electric
and
they
have
the
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
charge
these,
and
in
fact,
Oslo
will
soon
be
the
first
capital
city
in
the
world
to
have
an
all-electric,
a
public,
transit,
Fleet
and
so
I
would
encourage
us.
A
You
know,
and
and
they've
noted
that
they
have
to
pay
more
for
municipal
construction
and
they're
willing
to
do
that
and
I
think
if
we
are
to
be
leaders
on
this
top
on
this
in
this
area,
we
also
have
to
at
times
be
willing
to
pay
more
and
so
I
would
encourage
staff
to
look
into
the
possibility
of
importing.
A
You
know
some
of
those
vehicles
from
other
countries
if
possible
and
not
to
say
that
we
certainly
will
do
it,
but
just
having
the
option
and
understanding
what
the
cost
may
be
and
allowing
this
body
to
make
that
decision.
I
think
is
important
and
then,
lastly,
to
councilmember
Newsom
is
concern
about
EV
charging
at
the
Civic
Center
I
think
he
is
the
council.
A
E
Right
so
so,
my
understanding
is
that
we
would
really
need
to
look
into
and
have
the
service
center
further
engineered
in
order
to
to
provide
additional
charging
stations.
There
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
enough
power
based
upon
conversations
with
our
electricians.
I'm,
not
sure
we
have
enough
power
there
to
do
any
more
than
what
we
are
proposing.
I
would
have
to
look
into
that.
A.
A
Little
certainly
and
and
our
garage
is
as
well
yeah,
okay
with
no
further
questions,
councilmember
Burns.
C
Trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
the
the
the
ambulance
is
it.
Is
it
true
that
we
can
request
that
one
be
built
as
opposed
to
purchasing
one
and
if
so,
what
is
the
typical
lead
time?
So.
E
conventional
gas,
gasoline
ambulance
and
it
still
hasn't
arrived.
So
it's
we're
estimating
about
approximately
a
two-year
lead
time.
So
if
we
were
to
pass
up
this
readily
available
unit,
it
would
be
two
years
from
whenever
we
get
it
approved
to
to
have
it.
You
know.
A
Thank
you,
I've
seen
no
further
questions,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed
any
abstentions.
The
item
the
item
passes
I
may
have
a
motion
on
item
a12
approval
of
contract
award
to
author
Arthur,
J,
Gallagher
and
Co
for
insurance
broker
services.
This
is
RFQ
2535.,
so
move
so
moved
by
council
member
Burns
seconded
by.
D
A
You
and
no
further
are
there
any
further
questions.
Seeing
no
further
comment
from
the
body,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
any
abstentions,
yes
and
any
Nays.
The
item
passes
and
at
528
we
conclude
this
committee
meeting.
Thank
you.