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A
A
Are
there
any
additions
corrections
if
seeing
none,
I
see
no
lights,
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
Okay.
Our
first
item
for
consideration
would
be
the
city's
payroll
through
october
5th
2014,
in
the
amount
of
two
million
six
hundred
and
forty
one
thousand
eight
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
and
seventy
one
cents
move
approval.
C
A
Sorry,
the
I'm
sorry,
it's
been
moved
in.
Second,
all
in
favor,
aye.
C
A
Opposed
the
city
bills
for
october
28th
2014
in
the
amount
of
2
million
183.
A
663.39
move
approval.
Did
anyone
get
a
chance
to
look
at
the
bills
list?
Everything
is
satisfactory,
no
deletions
no
additions
and
no
lights.
All
in
favor,
any
opposed
holland
burst
you're
on
yes,
I.
B
Ask
you
move
approval
a
3.1,
the
approval
of
a
single
source,
elevator
service
agreement
with
bison
crop
elevator
corp
for
the
sherman
plaza
south
park
at
a
cost
of
four
thousand
four
hundred
thirty
six
dollars
and
sixteen
cents.
The
proposed
five
year
service
agreement
is
effective
april.
First,
twenty
fourteen
to
march
thirty,
first,
twenty
nineteen,
it
should
be
noted.
This
agreement
includes
a
cost
reduction
of
four
thousand
seven
hundred
and
forty
seven
dollars
for
the
first
year,
which
is
an
approximately
twelve
percent
decrease
when
compared
to
last
year's
agreement.
D
Rainey,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
the
importance
of
elevator
contracts.
If
you've
ever
managed
buildings
that
have
elevators
in
them,
then
you
know
that
there
is
nothing
more
important
than
a
spot
on
highly
qualified
elevator
maintenance
company,
especially
the
one
that
installed
them
originally.
So
this
this
is
a
very
surprising
extension
and
a
great
contract,
and
you
know
that
it's
a
sole
source
is
an
absolute
necessity
here.
D
Yes,
ma'am
next
item
is
a
contract
with
place
consulting
for
consulting
work,
to
create
a
special
service
area
for
the
maine
chicago
and
dempster
chicago
merchants
district.
This
is
at
a
cost
of
36
eighty
three
dollars
and
seventy
eight
cents
funding
is
from
the
economic
development
funds
redevelopment
consulting.
B
E
Yes,
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
have
some
properties
on
main
street
and
have
been
in
the
mainstream
merchants
association
for
about
nine
years.
E
I
was
president
for
five
years,
and
I've
observed
the
the
benefit
that
ssas
have
brought
to
communities
like
andersonville
and
edgewater,
and
have
seen
the
the
steps
in
the
rogers
park
area
that
ssas
have
brought
to
improving
that
community,
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
benefit
to
to
our
community
too,
because,
as
some
of
the
justified,
some
of
the
texts
justifying
the
possibility
of
a
tiff
or
ssa
in
our
area
indicates.
We
are
kind
of
a
a
blighted
area.
E
We
are
operating
under
potential
in
terms
of
the
commercial
and
the
commercial
revenues.
The
area
should
really
be
generating
particularly
west
of
chicago
avenue
and,
and
this
exists
even
with
all
the
new
construction
on
the
corners
of
maine
in
chicago
and
farther
south.
So
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
go
ahead
with
funding
the
exploration
of
an
ssa
and
then
I
think,
of
course,
the
effectiveness
of
any
money
that
might
be
derived
from
the
property
owners
and
commercial
tenants
in
providing
funds
for
operating.
A
Thank
you,
sir,
for
your
comment.
Alderman
burst.
B
E
E
We
have
been
very
conscious
in
trying
to
seek
tenants
who
add
a
little
a
little
pizzazz
to
the
community
and
and
try
to
elevate
the
image
of
the
community
and
that's
true
of
the
of
of
doc
and
it's
true,
the
wine
goddess
and
healthy
green
goods
prior
to
them,
and
so
I'd
like
that's
one.
Another
reason
why
I
like
to
see
the
ssa,
so
we
can
continue
doing
it.
My.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
I
have
a
question
from
ms
knighton
this.
My
question
is
really
we're
a
long
way
off
from
instituting
this
ssa,
but
what's
the
interplay
between
the
operation
of
the
ssa
and
our
great
merchants
grant
program,
so
it's
18
000
that
goes
to
chicago
maine
and
chicago
dempster
business
associations
and
would
would
we
no
longer
would
they
no
longer
participate
in
great
merchants
grant,
or
will
we
let
the
ssa
figure
that
out.
G
Good
evening,
johannes
economic
development
manager,
that's
correct,
they
would
no
longer
be
able
to
apply
for
the
great
merchants
grant.
The
the
program
specifically
prohibits
if
you're
part
of
an
ssa
for
seeking
funds
and
the
the
purpose
of
the
great
merchant
grant
really
is
to
encourage
business
districts
to
organize
it's
to
get
them
together
and
and
get
them
to
be
organized
to
be
a
regular
group
so
that
they
can
access
these
funds.
A
I
see
no
other
likes,
mr
lyons,
director
alliance.
Would
you.
H
Yes,
just
one
follow-up
to
that,
though,
as
is
the
case
in
our
downtown
ssa,
the
city
partners
with
that
ssa,
because
all
of
the
property
owners
have
said
we
will
put
our
dollars
in
through
the
ssa
and
so
a
lot
of
the
downtown
maintenance
and
some
of
the
marketing
is
done
in
cooperation
with
the
economic
development
fund.
So
it's
not
as
if
there's
a
a
straight
takeaway
from
this,
though,
as
you
move
forward,
who
knows
how
the
ssa
will
develop
its
programs,
so
there
could
be
the
opportunities
for
partnership
in
the
future.
A
Okay,
I
see
no
more
lights,
it's
been
moved
in
the
second
all
in
favor,
any
opposed
okay
almond
and
was
that
almond
grow
with
you
or
was
that
you
I'm
sorry?
I
just
lost
cow.
I
F
D
We've
had
a
discussion
previously
about
this
license
and
there
you
know,
there's
only
one
thing
that
excites
me
more
than
than
this
occupancy,
and
that
is
the
occupancy
of
little
beans
at
some
point
at
asberry
and
oakton.
However,
however,
yes,
it
makes
one
right,
but
no,
no,
no,
no!
I'm
talking
about
bangers
and
lace.
However,
I'm
saying
how
important
this
use
is
and
this
this
this
ordinance
is
also,
but
we
don't
need
to
go
to
three
o'clock
there.
D
D
A
Lemon
wilson,
I
just
saw
you,
come
no
you're,
okay,
all
right,
I
just
one.
Second,
I
have
alderman
verse
and
then
oliver
mcgrover
and
then
I
can
call
him.
Okay.
B
J
J
I
strike
that
six
o'clock,
I
mean
six
six
licensees
per
the
terms
of
the
c1
I'll
just
have
to
I'll.
Just
have
her.
B
F
C
K
K
A
D
D
I
could
I
speak
again:
go
ahead
alderman
just
so.
Those
of
you
who
aren't
you
know
haven't
been
here
for
decades.
A
Okay,
as
I
said,
my
only
point
is
fairness.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
you
know
across
the
board
with
it,
if
the
other
ones
are
in
that
area,
then
I
don't
know
why
we
wouldn't
do
that.
Well,
if
he's
you
want
it's
going
to
take
a
minute.
A
Oh
okay,
all
right!
Do
you
want.
A
Let's
hold
it
here
for
just
just
so
we
can
be
sure
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
know
we're
trying
to
be
as
fair
as
we
possibly
can
be,
and
do
that
I
know
he
says
he
can
live
with
two
o'clock
and
that's
fine.
But
if,
if
the.
D
D
A
A
I
Right,
I'm
gonna,
take
item,
25,
sure,
ordinance,
126-0-14,
increasing
the
number
of
class
f
liquor
licenses
for
highland
park
cvs,
llc
doing
business
at
cvs
8760
at
3333
central
street.
This
is
for
introduction.
A
D
Madam
chair,
in
this
case
I'm
going
to
ask
to
have
this
held
until
our
next
meeting
and
the
reason
is
as
follows:
we
need
to
have
a
sit
down
with
cvs,
I'm
going
to
explain
to
you
a
situation
that
is
occurring
right
now
and
I'm
looking
for
a
good
neighbor
policy
from
cvs.
D
As
you
know,
cvs
is
the
sub
lessee
for
the
asbury
oakton
little
beans,
application
in
lease
little
beans
plans
to
open
up
a
wonderful
use
at
a
place
that
has
been
vacant.
For
I
keep
saying
almost
10
years,
I
think
it's
very
close
to
10
years
cvs
has
agreed
to
give
little
beans
money
for
improvements
several
hundred.
Is
it
two
hundred
thousand
how
much
hundred
whatever
it
is?
It's
it's
an
amount
that
has
been
reported
to
the
small
business
association.
D
D
D
What
has
been
resolved
here
is
that
the
money
will
be
released
by
sba
if
cvs
simply
gives
a
letter
of
credit
in
the
amount
of
the
money
they
plan
on
giving
later
cvs
is
absolutely
refusing
which
is
shutting
down
this
whole
operation,
and
all
of
us
know
that
this
has
been
going.
This
effort
to
get
little
beans
in
has
been
going
on
for
a
long
long
time.
D
It
is
absolutely
the
most
exciting
thing
next
to
bangers
place
that
has
come
to
evans
in
a
long
time,
two
deteriorated
properties
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
help
and
and
have
them
shine,
and
so
I
would
like
to
set
this
aside
with
the
approval
of
the
committee
for
one
meeting,
so
that
perhaps
cvs
can
realize
that
we
all
have
to
work
together
in
this
town.
We
all
have
to
work
together.
D
What
happens
up
on
central
street
at
cvs
is
just
as
important
as
what
happens
down
at
asberry
and
oakton,
and
one
affects
the
other,
and
so,
let's
all
get
together
on
the
same
page,
nobody's
asking
for
them
to
break
their
back
on.
This
simply
write
a
letter
of
credit
for
the
amount
of
money
you've
promised
to
give
to
little
beans
because
of
the
signing
of
the
lease.
B
Thank
you
so,
to
paraphrase
a
use,
a
quote
from
a
friend
of
mine,
you're
kind
of
putting
a
hitch
in
our
giddy
up
here,
putting
little
beans
in
oakton
asbury,
and
it's
a
huge
problem
for
this
community.
For
that
not
to
go
forward,
it
would
be
most
timely
for
cbs
cvs
corporate
to
look
at
their
comprehensive
engagement
in
evanston.
B
We
are
one
community.
We
are
not
north
evanston.
We
are
not
south
as
evanston.
We
are
evanston
so
communication.
We
all
talk,
so
we
know
what's
going
on.
It
would
be
really
helpful
if
cvs
corporate
knew
what
you
were
all
doing
at
the
same
time,
when
you're
coming
and
asking
for
something
at
the
same
time,
not
helping
us
in
a
different
part
of
town.
B
A
I
see
no
more
lies
at
all
right.
You
wanted
to
speak
again
well.
D
Just
in
following
up
on
alderman
burris's
comments,
ms
knight,
and
did
speak
with
cvs,
the
folks
that
are
here
in
the
audience
tonight,
at
least
over
a
week
ago
about
this
very
thing
face
to
face,
and
so
we've
we
did
give
them
an
opportunity
to
get
in
touch
with
others
and
we've
gotten
nowhere.
D
A
Well,
I
think
we're
all
excited
about
having
something
on
that
corner.
When
I
got
elected
in
205,
it
was
empty,
so
that's
nine
years
ago,
so
you're
probably
longer
than
that
and
almond
raining
for
sure,
but
I
can
vouch
for
that
part.
Okay.
You've
heard
the
request
from
walterman
rainey.
It
is
the
whole
time
to
hold
and
you
want
to
held
in
committee
or
you
want
hearing
committee
hold
holding
committee.
Is
there
a
second
on
that?
Okay,
seeing
no
more
lights
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed?
A
Okay,
a6.
A
B
A
It's
been
moved
in
second
alderman
rainey.
D
A
Okay,
all
right
there's
been
a
move
to
suspend
the
rules.
Second,
all
right,
it's
been
moved
in
and
second
all
in
favor
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Do
we
need
to
go
back.
A
To
approve
the
fingers,
the
actual
ordinance,
it's
been
moved
in.
Second,
all
in
favor.
A
I
A
D
A
Introduction
yeah
move
an
introduction,
okay
and
then
all
in
favor,
I
all
in
any
opposed.
Okay.
Now
I
think
we
can
hear
from
director
ferrara
now
and
then
we'll
take
item
for
discussion.
J
B
A
D
A
G
A
I
know
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
Okay,
we
have
an
item
for
discussion:
ap
apw,
one,
the
city
of
evanston's,
liquor,
tax
and
collected
liquor,
tax
revenue,
and
we
have
three
speakers
alderman
wilson.
Well,
I
guess
we
have
a
presentation.
First
right,
you
want
to
do
the
presentation
first
and
then
alderman
wilson,
allen,
price
and
diane
is
that
hammond
yeah,
okay,.
G
Okay,
good
evening,
johannes
economic
development
division
manager,
I
was
asked
at
the
after
the
following
the
october
6
rules
committee
to
review
and
try
to
understand
if
evanston
is
at
any
kind
of
competitive
disadvantage
due
to
the
fact
that
we
have
a
liquor
tax.
G
So
this
is
a
presentation
that
summarizes
the
memo
that
was
provided
in
the
packet
of
my
attempt
to
try
to
understand.
What's
going
on
with
our
liquor
tax.
So
I
looked
at
the
three.
We
have
a
couple:
different
sources
of
revenue
from
liquor,
tax,
that's
on
premise
and
off
premise,
and
those
that
can
very
simply
be
broken
down
to
places
where
you
go.
G
Restaurants,
where
you
go
and
consume
alcohol
inside
and
you're
charged
for
it
either
through
bottles,
glasses,
other
mixed
drinks
or
you
go
to
a
store
and
you
buy
wine
beer
or
spirits
for
consumption
off-site
and
in
your
home,
hopefully
your
home.
Then
we,
I
gathered
some
baseline
information
on
what
we're
at
right
now
and
then
tried
to
understand
communities
that
also
charge
have
levia
tax
on
liquor
and
then
communities
adjacent
to
us
that
don't
and
trying
to
compare
what's
happening
in
evanston
to
those
communities.
G
Just
to
remind
everybody.
The
tax
on
liquor
is
is
not
just
liquor
taxes,
our
code
calls
it
a
privilege
of
purchasing
alcoholic
liquor
and
it's
at
a
rate
of
six
percent
on
the
purchase
price
and
the
the
dealer
of
the
alcoholic
liquor
can
retain
an
amount
equal
to
two
percent
of
the
total
amount
of
tax
collected.
So
I
want
a
clip.
There
may
have
been
some
confusion.
Another
point
that
someone
thought
that
that
was
two
percent
of
the
six
percent,
two
percent
of
a
piece
of
that
six
percent.
G
It's
really
two
percent
of
the
total
amount
collected
and
the
next
slide
covers
where
we're
at
with
revenue
we've
steadily
increased.
Interestingly,
in
the
years
post,
9
11
and
as
well
as
the
recession,
we
saw
some
drops,
which
seemed
to
indicate
that's
when
people
stop
consuming
or
going
out
more.
So
those
are
in
in
line
with
with.
What's
going
on
in
a
larger
consumption
culture?
This
is
sorry.
This
blue
is
not
coming
through,
but
this
is
57
of
the
fiscal
year
2013..
This
is
for
the
city
of
evanston.
G
This
was
collected
for
off,
permit
by
liquor,
sold
for
off-premise
locations,
and
then
this
is
42
percent
was
on-premise
restaurants,
our
hotels,
that's
where
that
and
then
that
one
percent
both
this
was
for
places
such
as
ward
8
has
a
head
of
both.
You
could
buy
a
bottle
of
wine.
You
could
also
consume
it
on
premise,
so
it's
I
mean
one
percent
wasn't
war
day,
but
it's
establishments
that
you
can
also
buy
on
site
as
well
as
consume,
and
then
this
is
a
year
to
date.
G
This
is
actually
this
just
through
july,
but
you
can
see
again.
This
54
is
off-premise
consumption.
The
percent
of
total
liquor
tax
collected
and
43
is
for
off
premise,
I'm
sorry
on
premise,
consumption
and
then
3.
That
would
indicate
that's
from
things
that
we
now
have
that
we
didn't
have
a
year
ago,
such
as
temperance
and
peckish
pig,
where
you
can
do
both
for
on-site
and
off-site
consumption.
G
And
then
I
dug
a
little
deeper
into
what
happened,
what
the
off
premise
con
liquor
sales
looks
like
and
if
you
break
down,
the
majority
of
the
sales
that
are
occurring
are
at
larger
type
establishments
like
jewel
or
dominic's,
formerly
dominic's
and
trader
joe's.
These
are
establishments
where
people
also
have
the
ability
to
purchase
other
goods,
and
then
there
are
four
locations
in
evanston
that
are
under
10
000
square
feet
and
they
make
up
about
14
of
the
total
liquor
tax
collected.
So
that's
again,
the
blue.
G
And
then
I
looked
at
liquor.
Sales
revenue
by
population
because
again
skokie
will
met,
do
not
collect
a
tax.
So
there's!
No.
If
it's
all
proprietary,
there's
no
way
to
understand
how
much
sales
from
evanston
might
be
leaking
into.
Skokie
will
met
and
even
chicago
while
they
do
obvious
small
tax,
there's
no
way
to
compare
chicago
to
evanston
because
it
just
has
a
much
larger
footprint.
G
So
I
looked
at
what
happens
if
in
other
communities,
to
see
if
we're
somehow
in
the
same
ballpark
and
something's
happening
in
st
charles,
that
people
are
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
alcohol.
But
I
think
that
has
a
lot
to
do
with
it
with
a
destination
aspect
of
saint
charles,
but
evanston
is
ahead
in
terms
of
liquor
sales
per
person,
and
we
base
that
on
a
per
person
of
people
20
or
above
in
the
based
on
census.
Data.
G
And
then,
finally,
we
also
in
the
the
I
did
not
include
the
table.
That
was
in
the
memo
because
it
just
did
not
come
through
in
the
powerpoint
very
well,
but
the
we
also
have
the
highest.
Well,
we
have
the
highest
liquor
tax.
G
We
also
have
the
greatest
number
of
liquor
licenses
and
we
have
significantly
more
for
on-premise
consumption
and
that's
we
had
a
total
of
83
licenses
for
restaurants
and
bars
that
people
go
and
consume
alcohol
on
site
versus
the
average
of
communities
compared
that
is
41.,
but
then
we're
slightly
below
average
for
establishments
that
would
sell
for
off-premise
consumption
and
also
evanston
has
the
lowest
the
fewest
acres
of
land
per
liquor
license
then.
Finally,
this
this
is
just
the
table.
H
D
It
this
this
report
was
excellent
johanna.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
the
only
thing
it
shows
really
is
that
our
liquor
tax
has
absolutely
no
effect
on
the
sale
of
alcohol.
In
this
town
I
mean-
and
I
I
mean
just
just
the
the
note
except
people
probably
are
driving
to
saint
charles-
I
mean
that's,
you
know,
but
other
than
that
I
don't
know
total
liquor.
Sales
per
person
is
approximately
738
in
evanston,
as
compared
to
oak
park,
often
compared
as
similar
demographically
to
evanston
429
per
person
of
people
over
20
years
old.
D
D
G
It's
a
little
more
complex
than
ours,
so
chicago
has
a
0.25
percent
tax
on
the
retail
price
of
food.
So
you
dine
out
you're
paying
attacks,
no
matter
if
you
consume
alcohol
or
just
a
diet
coke.
It's
the
same,
so
they
tax
everybody
for
the
for
the
dinate
for
the
eating
in
piece,
and
then
they
do
levy
attacks
on
beer
in
the
amount,
beer,
every
alcohol.
G
But
it's
beer
at
a
point:
29
cents
per
gallon
liquor,
point
36
cents,
a
gallon,
I'm
sorry
liquor
for
14,
less
alcohol
content,
point,
36
cents,
14
or
more
alcohol
content,
89
cents
per
gallon,
and
then
20
alcohol
content
or
more
2.68
cents
per
gallon.
G
So
there's
a
very
about
a
six
page
document
on
the
city
of
chicago's
website
that
you
document
how
much
liquor
you
have
in
the
ga
in
gallons
at
the
beginning
of
a
period
and
then
how
much
you
sell
to
other
other
establishments
and
how
much
you
sell
to
the
public
and
how
much
you
still
have
on
premise
or
how
much
you
drop
on
the
ground.
It's
a
very
complicated
spreadsheet,
but
that's
the
way
that
they
calculate
the
time.
G
A
L
I
don't
have
to
but
a
few
things
I
wanted
to
point
out
tonight
and-
and
this
is
speaking
from
my
perspective
as
an
evanston
resident
and
a
consumer
of
all
things
that
get
purchased
in
evanston.
While
I
appreciate
the
presentation,
I
don't
really
think
that
it
gave
us
any
information
as
to
how
this
impacts
our
retailers.
L
What
this
does
is.
It
tells
us
that
the
places,
the
businesses,
the
restaurants,
the
bars
and,
to
some
extent
the
retailers
are
doing
very
well,
but,
as
we
saw
from
the
charts
and
the
information
we
have
far
more
of
those
businesses
than
other
places
have.
So
it's
not
really
that
unexpected
that
we
would
have
more
volume
in
sales.
L
I
think
that
six
percent
and
in
the
wording
of
the
ordinance
whenever
it
was
drafted-
I
don't
know
when
that
was
points
out-
that
this
was
for
the
privilege
of
purchasing
alcohol
and
evanston
has
a
long
and
storied
past
with
regard
to
our
relationship
with
alcohol
and
that's
evolved
over
time.
But
we've
gone
from
a
point
where
we
went
from
zero
in
the
70s
to
the
most
right.
L
Now
we
used
to
have
the
most
churches
per
capita,
but
things
have
changed
and
things
have
evolved
and
I
think
we
are
no
longer
in
the
business
of
punishing
people
for
buying
alcohol
and
to
me,
a
six
percent
tax,
especially
in
relation
to
all
of
the
other
communities
in
the
state,
is
punitive.
I
don't
really
think
that
we
can
look
at
it
any
other
way.
L
It's
probably
unfortunate
that
we've
grown
accustomed
to
relying
on
the
income
and
the
revenue
from
that,
but
putting
that
burden
on
purchases
of
the
specific
of
this
specific
product,
I
don't
think,
is
fair.
In
addition,
as
it
relates
to
the
retailers,
I
do
think
that
this
is
very
anti-competitive,
chicago.
L
L
This
kind
of
a
tax
when
your
neighbors
have
a
zero
percent
add-on
must
be
crushing
to
the
other
retailers
you
can
take
your
large
vendors
like
jewel
grocery
stores,
they're
selling
in
volume,
but
they're
also
selling
other
products,
they're
selling
other
products
with
a
different
markup
different
ratios.
That's
completely
different.
We
saw
that
over
80
percent
of
the
off-premises
sales
are
going
out
the
doors
of
those
big
businesses
that
small,
smaller
portion
14.
L
L
These
are
the
kind
of
businesses
that
give
us
pizzazz
what
if
we
decided
to
tax,
guitars
or
or
you
know
something
other
something
else
like
that.
The
small
retailers
provide
a
different
relationship
with
their
customers
and
they
provide
a
different
experience
and
they
draw
people
to
these
small
shopping
districts,
and
this
kind
of
a
tax
is
very
harmful
in
that
context.
So
I
hope
that
we
can
revisit
this
and
look
at
this
in
in
with
a
broader
perspective,
not
just
how
much
money
we
can
get
but
understand
that
there
are
different
components
and
different
relationships.
L
L
E
Comments,
let's
see,
I
think
the
point
I
would
like
a
couple
of
points
I
would
like
to
make
are:
are
number
one.
E
If
you
go
into
a
sam's
club
or
a
jewel
or
any
of
the
large
purveyors
of
food
and
alcoholic
beverages,
you
may
not
be
thinking
about
the
tax
on
any
given
item
and
when
you
check
out
you
get
the
total
bill
when
you
go
into
a
boutique
to
buy,
maybe
to
get
advice
on
what
to
buy,
which
is
very
important
for
the
viability
and
attractiveness
of
a
boutique
like
a
like
a
wine
shop
like
vinnick
or
or
the
wine
goddess.
E
You
go
in
there
for
expertise,
and
you
see
right
there
on
the
ticket
when
you
pay
your
bill
that
additional
six
percent
on
on
that.
If
you're
buying
case
quantities
that
could
very
well
discourage
you
from
buying
there,
because
now
suddenly
you're
not
paying
60
cents
on
a
on
a
ten
dollar
bottle
of
wine.
E
So
I
think
the
question
you
have
to
ask
yourselves
as
people
who
are
setting
policy
for
the
city
is
yes,
I
think
I
think
it's
wonderful.
When
I
moved
here
30
35
years
ago,
we
didn't
have
any
alcohol
being
supplied
by
restaurants,
and
now
it's
it's
a
it's.
It's
been
a
great
growth
industry,
we're
probably
doing
40
to
50
million
dollars
in
in
alcohol
revenue
in
the
city
of
evanston,
we're
collecting
two
and
a
half
million
dollars,
something
like
that
in
in
in
tax
revenue.
E
But
if
you
look
at
the
the
contribution
of
the
boutiques
to
that
you're,
probably
talking
about
under
three
or
four
percent,
so
the
question
you
have
to
ask
is:
do
you
want
these
kinds
of
businesses
to
disappear
from
the
the
the
cultural
framework
of
evanston
and
just
focus
on
purchasing
these
items
from
the
big
box?
Retailers?
E
M
M
So
my
name
is
diana
hammond
and
I
live
at
1126
oak
avenue
and
I
also
am
an
evanston
mom
and
I'm
also
the
proprietors
of
the
wine
goddess
on
main
street,
and
what
I
would
really
like
you
to
do
is
to
I
just
have
these
three
sheets
of
paper.
I
would
love
to
have
the
opportunity
to
go
through
them
with
you,
because,
especially
the
last
page.
M
I
think
it
does
well
to
illustrate
the
deleterious
effects
that
this
has
particularly
on
the
four
independent
retailers
I
will
say
as
an
evanston
resident
and
as
a
consumer.
You
know
going
to
the
restaurants.
M
But
for
retail
it
really
is
obvious
and
noticeable,
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
conversations
that
I've
had
with
customers
about
this
and
they
they
never
go
well.
So
if
I
could
just
direct
your
attention
to
the
first
sheet
here,
I
literally
called
up
on
the
phone
50
municipalities
around
us
and
talked
to
finance
directors
and
city
managers
and
the
like,
and
I
found
that
out
of
50
cities,
large
kind
of
similar
cities
to
evanston.
M
Only
let's
see
you
have
to
get
to
43
out
of
the
50
before
anybody
charges
any
form
of
a
liquor
tax
and
if
you'll
note
those
liquor,
taxes
start
off.
You
know
pretty
low.
They
kind
of
taper
out
around
three
three
percent
as
the
average.
But
then
here
we
are
in
evanston.
We
are
just
leaps
and
bounds
higher
than
than
anybody
else.
M
M
I
guess
it's
2.5
for
naperville,
and
that
depends
on
where
you
are
in
naperville,
whether
you're
in
the
city
center
or
or
surrounding
areas
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
talked
to
these
men
and
women
about
especially
in
the
finance
departments,
is
they
were
saying?
Well,
you
can't
possibly
charge
a
liquor.
Tax
is
what
how
would
we
assess
it
on
the
liquor
retailers,
because
all
they
sell
is
liquor
and
that's
really
not
fair
to
have
this
blanket
six
percent
tax
that
would
definitely
penalize
the
liquor
stores
proper.
M
If
a
bottle
of
wine
wholesales
for
10
bucks,
I
will
price
it
at
my
store
at
14.99.
That's
a
50
markup,
so
retail
we
spend
10
bucks
to
make
five
bucks.
Okay,
restaurants.
On
the
other
hand,
a
restaurant
markup
is
300
percent
and
some
that
I've
been
the
beverage
director
for
in
the
past
have
even
gone
up
to
400
percent.
M
M
So
the
next
page
is
this
excel
dock
here,
and
what
I've
kind
of
done
is
I've
taken
this
kind
of
hypothetical
gross
monthly
sale,
number
of
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
both
retail
and
for
restaurant
and
truly
madly
deeply
again,
while
that
gross
monthly
sales
res
revenue
number
is,
you
know,
could
be
a
revenue
number
that
I
would
experience
at
the
wine
goddess.
You
know,
restaurants
are
making
a
lot
more
money
than
that
and
the
successful
ones.
M
Three
times
that
four
times
that
etc,
but
we'll
just
go
with
it
for,
for
our
intents
and
purposes,
so
if
I,
if
my
gross
monthly
sales,
are
30
grand
and
we're
just
in
this
first
column
here
my
cost
of
goods
sold
given
a
50
markup
is
20
grand,
so
I've
paid
my
vendors
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
my
gross
monthly
profit
in
that
is
ten
thousand
dollars.
Okay
and
here's
the
real
kicker.
If
you
hear
anything
that
I'm
saying
tonight,
I
really
hope
that
you
hear
this.
M
The
problem
with
the
six
percent
liquor
tax
is
that
we
are
liquor
stores,
so
95
of
our
gross
sales
are
indeed
liquor.
So
if
we
take
95
percent
of
the
gross
sale
of
thirty
grand
right
there,
twenty
eight
thousand
dollars
twenty
eight
five
is
a
game
for
this
six
percent
liquor
tax.
So
if
I
make
twenty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
dollars,
I
have
to
cut
a
check
to
the
city
for
one
thousand,
seven
and
ten
seven
hundred
and
ten
dollars.
So
that's
seventeen
percent
of
my
gross
monthly
profit
as
opposed
to
restaurants.
M
M
What
percentage
do
you
guys
see
liquor
sales
fall
into
and
a
bunch
of
different
restaurants
said
yeah
I'd,
say:
30
percent,
roughly
30
percent,
so
the
kicker
here
is
30
percent
of
the
gross
monthly
profit
of
20
grand
is
nine
thousand
dollars
there.
So
I'm
sorry,
I
should
say
this:
six
percent
of
the
gross
monthly
revenue
is
nine
grand.
M
M
So
I
guess
my
my
reality
is
that
we're
the
little
guys
we
don't
make
a
lot
of
money
at
all.
Sadly-
and
we
are
asked
to
give
a
disproportionate
amount
of
the
little
that
we
make
to
the
city
and
with
every
due
respect
to
the
great
restaurants
here
in
evanston,
they
make
leaps
and
bounds
more
money
than
these
four
little
retailers
do,
and
yet
they
are
asked
to
give
such
a
minor
percent
of
their
revenues
to
the
city
each
month,
17
for
retail
2.75
for
restaurants.
M
So
that's
kind
of
where
I
am
here
and
that's
why
I'm
just
hoping
that,
I'm
frankly,
I'm
hoping
that
the
liquor
tax
for
these
four
retailers
can
just
be
gone,
because
for
so
many
years
we
have
given
what
is,
in
my
opinion,
a
way
more
percentage
than
we
frankly
should
have
been
all
these
years.
But
certainly
what
I
would
ask
is
for
at
least
a
discussion
to
say
to
recognize:
hey
you
two
guys
have
nowhere
near
the
same
business
model
and
yet
we're
applying
this
tax
flatly
to
both
of
you.
A
B
B
M
Sticker,
okay:
in
the
past,
I
have
charged
both
the
state
and
local
nine
percent
on
that
14.99
and
the
city
addendum
liquor,
tax,
six
percent
and
it
for
eight
months.
I
did
this
and
I
that's
where
I
had
the
bulk
of
these
conversations
and
it
would
always
happen
when
people
would
come
up.
They'd
buy
8.99,
bottle,
they'd,
throw
a
10
spot
on
the
table.
They'd
buy
a
1799
bottle,
they'd,
throw
a
20
on
the
table
and
I'd
have
to
say
you
know
a
little
more
and
then
they'd
be
like.
B
But
okay,
but
again
I
I
still
don't
think
I
have
a
clarification
from
you.
You
are
so
you're
getting
the
1499,
then
you're
charging
the
appropriate
tax,
which
is
then
separated
out
and
that's
what
is
going
to
the
government
entity.
So
you're
your
business
is
still
getting
the
14.99,
so
that's
still
a
50
markup.
B
M
I
will
tell
you,
though,
I've
done
it
both
ways
so
for
the
first
nine
months
of
my
business,
I
was
doing
exactly
that
and
I
just
had
so
many
of
these
conversations
and
people
would
look
me
dead
in
the
eye
and
say
why
on
earth
should
I
spend
15
percent
to
buy
wine
at
your
shop
rather
than
go
over
to
skokie,
and
I
had
no
good
answer
so
then
I
we
actually
switched
point
of
sale
systems
and
our
new
point
of
sale
system
doesn't
even
allow
for
the
dichotomy
of
two
taxes
to
be
assessed
to
the
same
product.
B
M
B
That
that's
that,
if
we're
not
comparing
I'm
not
asking
you
to
compare
apples
and
oranges.
What
I'm!
What
I'm
asking
is
when
you're
doing
the
chart
on
the
back
here,
I'm
I'm
just
I'm
kind
of
like
into
numbers
if
the
numbers
on
the
back
don't
necessarily
make
less
and
what
how
you're
running
the
business
of
you're
eating
the
sales
tax
in
order
to
be
competitive
is
taking
away
from
your
profit
that
again,
I'm
I'm
not
a
small
business
person,
but
that
that
doesn't
seem
to
make
a
lot
of
sense.
B
B
I
would
assume
98
of
the
people
in
the
world
think
they're
going
to
pay
a
tax
on
top
of
whatever
the
the
it
says
on
there.
So
I'm
just
surprised
that
people
that
come
into
your
real
rear
establishment
would
be
shocked
that
there
was
a
tax
on
top
of
it.
That's
my
only
point,
and
so
the
numbers
don't
add
up
for
me
in
the
back
of
the
the
1499,
you
still
have
the
50
markup.
M
D
A
A
M
No
god,
no,
I'm
not
eating
both
of
them.
I
charge
this.
The
nine
I've
always
charged
the
nine
percent
tax.
It's
this
additional
six
percent
tax
that
for
an
eight-month
swath.
I
was
trying
to
pretty
much
hide
in
my
prices,
because
people
were
angry
at
the
fact
that
they
would
have
to
spend
fifteen
percent
at
my
store
and
eight
percent
in
kennel
worth
and
eight
percent
of
will
met,
and
you
know
nine
percent
in
skokie.
A
C
Well,
it
might
help
if
I
said
three
things.
The
first
thing
is
that
the
way
I
buy
wine
is,
I
would
much
prefer
to
buy
it
at
one
of
the
small
retailers,
but
I
don't
have
time
like
everybody
else,
I'm
very
pressured
in
time,
and
so
I
apologize,
but
I
grab
a
bottle
at
whole
foods
when
I'm
there,
because
it's
faster.
So
I
think
that's
one
problem
that
the
small
retailers
face.
C
Another
problem
is
that
no
one
other
than
the
small
retailers,
the
citizens
have
not
come
to
me
and
complained
about
the
tax,
but
restaurants
certainly
have.
Let
me
know
that
a
food
and
beverage
tax
would
not
be
appreciated
in
evanston
and
we
have
a
terrific
terrific
number
of
restaurants
who
do
a
thriving
business
here.
So
those
are
my
three
points
for
your
consideration.
F
For
me,
the
discussion
is
mostly
about
the
budget
implications
and
based
upon
the
numbers
from
2013
total
liquor
sales
in
evanston,
even
bringing
down
our
liquor
tax
to
five
percent
means
it
has
about
a
four
hundred
fifteen
thousand
dollar
price
tag
to
it.
For
us
that
is,
it
would
be
four
hundred
thirty
thirteen
thousand
dollars.
F
Somebody
else
needs
to
work
the
numbers,
because
I'm
not
so
good
at
math
tonight,
but
I
think
it's
about
four
hundred
thirteen
thousand
dollars
if
the
liquor
tax
were
at
five
percent
and
that
we
would
be
down
about
eight
hundred
twenty
seven
thousand
dollars
if
we
move
the
liquor
tax
from
six
to
four
percent,
that
would
be
the
implications
to
our
budget.
So
for
me
it's
it's!
It's
really
about
those
hard
numbers
and
and
what
what's
the
bottom
line
for
our
budget.
A
I
I
A
No
well
maybe
alderman
rainey
well,.
D
One
of
the
things
is:
there's
no
graduated
text,
I
don't
believe
at
the
state
or
other
level,
and-
and
I
don't
think
this
should
be
here-
we
do
recognize
the
small
businesses
in
terms
of
the
price
we
charge
for
liquor
licenses
and,
I
think,
that's
very
fair
and
very
proportionate
to
the
size
of
the
business
etc.
So
I'm
I
wouldn't
support
this,
and
the
only
thing
I
would
support
on
this
is
sending
it
back
to
the
liquor
commission
for
more
discussion.
D
That's
where
she
goes,
I
mean
I
don't
even
know
if
we
need
to
do
that,
because
it's
for
discussion,
but
I
would
suggest
the
liquor
commission
have
this
and
then
I
would
move
to
adjourn
okay.
A
I'm
gonna
allow
you
one
more
minute,
mr
price
and
also
diane,
just
because
we
need
to
close
I'm
coming
to
the
mic
and
the
reason
why
we
actually
come
to
the
mic
is
because
it's
being
telecast.
Yes,.
E
I
think
we're
looking
at
about
two
and
a
half
million
in
liquor,
tax
revenue
and
my
calculation
of
of
of
the
three
wine
shops
excluding
evanston
first
licorice,
because
it's
a
little
different
because
of
the
mixture
products
that
they
sell.
Those
three
wine
shops
together
probably
are
under
2
million
in
gross
sales
together.
E
So
we're
looking
at
maybe
sixty
to
ninety
thousand
in
liquor,
tax
and
think
about
that.
As
a
percentage
of
the
two
and
a
half
million
that
you
are
collecting
every
year
from
all
liquor
selling
establishments
in
evanston,
are
you
really
going
to
be
missing
that
with
the
growth
of
restaurants
and
breweries
and
distilleries
that
are
coming
into
francis
e
willard's
former
home?
Are
you
going
to
miss
that?
E
I
think
you
should
think
about
the
market
segment,
we're
talking
about
the
small
independent,
the
boutique
and
whether
you
want
to
have
those
continue
to
be
in
business
in
evanston
or
not?
And
if
you
do,
then
I
think
you
have
to
relax
the
taxation
on
those
kinds
of
establishments.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
M
Really
briefly,
I
do
just
want
to
say
for
the
record
reflecting
something
that
the
mayor
said
when
she
said
that
she
hasn't
heard
of
any
opposition
about
the
liquor
tax.
I
have
a
petition
that
I've
gotten
over
400
signatures
that
are
very
much
against
the
liquor
tax
and
that
just
took
one
person
on
my
own
social
media
and
not
only
that,
but
we
have
14
pages
of
really
cogent.
M
A
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
have
heard
we
will
refer
this
back
to
the
liquor
commission
and
I
think
that
concludes
our
agenda.
Is
a
motion
to
adjourn
and
I
believe,
p
and
d
probably
would
start
in
about
10
minutes,
because
we
are
five
minutes
over.