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A
Analyzing,
what
do
we
have?
How
do
we
understand
the
financial
and
budgetary
situation
better,
and
we
there's
several
areas?
I
want
to
talk
about
later.
That
I
would
like
to
have
us
break
into
smaller
groups
to
make
I
think
more
progress
between
meetings,
because
we
we
have
talked
about
that
before,
but
I
think,
if
we're
a
little
bit
more
specific
and
on
who
is
responsible
and
which
tasks
we're
focused.
B
A
That
maybe
we
can
make
a
little
bit
more
progress
in
between
the
meetings,
but
still
I
think
we
are
still
in
the
analytical
infrastructure.
What
do
we
have?
How
do
we
look
at
our
at
our
financial
results?
How
do
we
look
at
our
long-term
planning
so
that,
ultimately,
I
think
the
whole
objective
of
this
committee
is
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
the
city
council
is
getting
the
most
timely,
understandable
and
accurate
information
I'm
here
for
the
call
I've
got
to
go
to
the
bathroom,
but
my
parents
at
the.
A
Make
the
decisions
on
actual
Taxation
and
spending
priorities
have
the
best
information
so
that
that
is
what
I
view
at
being
and
it's
going
to
be
I
mean
ultimately,
I
would
love
to
get
to
hey.
We
think
here's
some
area
of
potential
cost
savings
here
are
some
areas
of
of
revenues
transferred
I
still
feel
like
that
is
out
in
the
future.
We
we
are,
we
are
not
there
yet.
We
are
still
very
much
in
the.
How
do
we
look
at
the
numbers?
How
do
we
think
about
what
we
report?
A
How
do
we
build
a
model
right
and
again
it
will
be.
E
C
B
B
To
yeah.
C
You're
right
I
mean
sometimes
we
have
those
issues
where
okay,
we
need
the
decision
because
it
will
come
to
the
council
in
next
month
or
two
months.
So
you
write
some
of
those
things
like
long
term
and
bigger
item
I'm
talking
about
where
city
council
doesn't
have
the
time
to
kind
of
talk
for
an
hour
or
two
like
that
pensions
capital
projects.
You
know
some
of
the
big
ticket
items
so
you're,
absolutely
right
in
that
sense,
yeah.
You
know
and
that's
why
I
put
this
bond
amount,
because
typically,
this
is
how
the
schedule
works.
B
C
Go
to
the
city
council
in
July,
with
the
bond
ordinance
you
know,
and
once
they
approve
our
business
in
order
number
two
readings.
So
it's
the
July
is
gone
in
August
we
sell
the
parts
right
around
mid
August
and
then
after
we
sell
the
bonds
within
three
weeks
of
that
first
week
of
September.
Generally,
we
close
one
of
the
reasons
for
this
is
generally.
We
have
some
Advanced
refunding
I
mean
not
refunding
now
so
the
bonds
which
are
callable
say
of
December
of
this
year.
We
can
do
it
90
days
in
advance,
so.
C
Be
in
first
week
of
September,
if
I
do
it
in
August
it
would
become
Advanced
refunding
and
it
would
become
a
taxable
refunding.
So
it's
like
all.
You
know
those
kind
of
things.
Okay
and
that's
why
I
put
the
bond
amount
here
have
asked
Lara
and
Dave
so
to
talk
about
the
project
side.
I
would
answer
any
question
in
finance.
So
when
I
go
to
the
council,
you
know
at
least
five
council
members
on
this
committee.
It's
a
lot
more
easier.
You
know
yeah
and.
B
C
B
A
A
G
G
H
G
One
we
have
a.
G
We
spend
a
lot
of
money
from
water
fund,
especially
maintaining
doing
projects
at
the
water
treatment
plant
and
doing
water
main
projects,
so
that
I'm
not
going
to
be
good
on
the
numbers,
but
let's
say
order
of
magnitude
that
usually
runs
US
20
to
30
million
dollars
and
is
probably
our
biggest
funding
source.
We
have
parking
fund
that
spends
money
on
parking
assets.
We
have
cdbg
funds.
G
The
staff
will
apply
to
this
hcda
committee,
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
act
committee
that
is
responsible
for
allegate,
allocating
the
city's
block
grant,
but
we
can
only
spend
those
in
cdbg
areas
and
only
if
they're
approved
by
the
committee
to
be
spent
on
those
projects
mft
a
little
bit
yeah.
We
get
motor
fuel
tax
rebated
from
the
state
of
Illinois
that
could
be
spent
on
Street
resurfacing.
We
have
sewer
fund
which
can
be
spent
on
sewer
assets,
but
most
of
those
things
fall
in
streets,
water,
main
sewer
type
work.
I
I
I
think
that
if
I
understand
your
question
correctly
you're
worried
about
what
are
we
taxing
for
when
we
tax
it's
generally
to
pay
the
debt
service
on
the
general
obligation
bonds,
so
the
20
million
that's
spent
out
of
the
water
fund,
that's
coming
from
the
Enterprise
fund
and
as
a
result
of
improvements
as
the
water
plant,
which
our
wholesale
water
customers
will
pay
85
percent
of
that
cost.
I
If
it's
at
the
water
point,
it's
a
water
main
project
that
only
benefits
the
residents
of
Evanston,
then
it's
it's
sold
as
a
Geo
Bond,
but
it's
the
The
Debt
Service
is
charged
to
the
waterfall.
So
it's
coming
out
of
the
Enterprise
line
Revenue
when.
G
H
G
Oh
no,
this
is
so,
for
example,
right
now
we're
in
the
process
of
preparing
the
budget
for
2023
we're
at
the
front
end
of
the
process.
Still
that's
done
internally
by
staff.
We
have
the
knowledge
that
typically,
we
need
to
be
at
nine
to
ten
million
dollars,
but
actually
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
at
the
end,
where
you
may
run
into
a
problem
with
that
in
2023
because
of
some
costs
that
are
hitting,
but
knowing
that
we're
trying
to
keep
the
budget
pretty
stable
year
to
year.
G
G
A
big
problem
that
is
hitting
this
year
and
we
are
in
next
year
and
we're
also
just
starting
to
run
into
a
time
when
we've
underfunded
some
of
these
assets.
For
so
long,
we
can't
cover
up
the
fact
that
they're
underfunded
anymore,
so
it's
like
take
Parks
out
of
service
or
fix
the
parts,
there's
no
other
funding
source
identified
currently
other
than
General
obligation
bonds.
So
we've
tried
over
the
years
to
maintain
this
nine
to
ten
million
dollar
member.
We're
definitely
going
to
be
doing
it
this
year,
but
next
year
will
be
problematic.
I
And
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
now
is
when
the
FY
22
budget
was
approved.
Part
of
that
budget
approval
included
the
capital
Improvement
program
in
which
we
indicate
that
we're
going
to
sell
so
much
in
general
obligation
Bond,
but
we
haven't
issued
those
or
sold
those
records.
Yet
so
now
that
we're
six
months
into
the
year,
we
have
a
better
field
for
how
much
we
actually
need
to
sell
in
bonds.
So
if
a
project
isn't
going
to
move
forward,
we
aren't
going
to
propose
to
sell
the.
F
B
F
Spent
in
you
know,
let's
say
it's
either
50
or
the
last
two
years
on
Road
Improvement
River
on
particularly
repaving
streets
and
maintaining
our
transportation
infrastructure.
G
Yes,
I
can
provide
that,
but
I
don't
I,
don't
really
have
the
ability
to
provide
it
right
now.
I'd
have
to
look
it
up
and
send
you.
G
One
thing
to
be
careful
of,
though
I
will
say
is
capital
projects
do
not
begin
and
end
with
the
calendar
year
or
the
city's
fiscal
year,
often
capital
projects
bridge
over
a
longer
period
of
time.
So
when
we
talk
about
Central,
Street
Bridge,
we've
been
spending
money
on
that
project
since
2017.,
and
so
there
might
be
and
construction
started
two
years
ago-
and
this
is
the
final
year
of
construction.
G
So
there
there
is
no
money
necessarily
in
this
year's
budget
for
Central
Street
bridge,
but
we're
spending
money
that
was
previously
sold
as
bonds
to
finish
up.
G
I
The
Central
Street
Bridge
I
forget
what
I
think
we're
the
City
of
Evanston
only
is
paying
20
of
that
cost
and
we're
getting
Federal
money
through
the
at
the
grant,
but
the
the
feds
giving
money
to
the
state
and
the
state
issues
it
to
Evanston
for
that
bridge,
repair,
so
they're
paying
80
percent
of
the
cost
of
that
bridge,
and
that
was
in
this
paying
20
out
of
Geo
body.
I
So
we
look
for
all
those
opportunities
that
we
can
to
stretch
our
dollars.
As
far
as
we
can
and
what
this
figs
has
indicated.
We
can
do
that
with
a
lot
of
different
categories
of
our
Capital
Improvement
program,
where
we
don't
get
to
stretch
the
money
is
for
Park
Rehabilitation
or
for
building
facilities
Rehabilitation,
because
there
just
aren't
those
type
of
Grants
every
once
in
a
while,
we'll
get
in
an
eye
slide
open
space.
G
I
Parks,
but
those
are
few
and
far
between
compared
to
what
we
can
get
grants
for
resurfacing:
Bridge
construction,
water,
main
sewer.
We
get
low
interest
loans
from
the
iepa
for
those
type
of
assets,
so
it
varies
significantly
and
as
Laura
was
indicating
playground,
we
have
47
playgrounds
playgrounds,
have
an
anticipated
life
of
15
years,
which
theoretically
means
we
should
be
replacing
three
playgrounds
a
year.
I
We
don't
have
to
staff
it
to
the
you
know
to
design
10
playgrounds
over
here,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
we're
trying
to
put
together
to
try
to
emphasize
where
we
are
lacking
in
funding,
realizing
that
this
committee
needs
to
have
that
information,
Noir
I,
think
is
very
close
to
putting
out
a
memo
on
how
underfunded
we
are
on
a
lot
of
facilities
that
we
own
Civic.
B
I
G
This
one's
not
actually
so
bad
because
we
spent
money.
We
have
five.
We
have
the
animal
shelter
which
is
in
process
of
design
to
get
replaced.
The
Civic
Center,
which
we
need
to
make
decisions
as
a
city
about
what
we
want
to
do
with
the
long-term
occupation
of
this
building
the
service
center,
the
municipal
service
center,
where
Public,
Works
and
Fleet
and
Facilities
all
work
out
of
that
building
has
a
lot
of
needs
and
is
deteriorating
rapidly.
We're
starting
to
have
some
pretty
crazy
issues
with
the
Ecology
Center.
G
It's
not
that
big
of
a
building,
so
it's
limited
in
costs,
but
basically
it
was
built
in
three
phases
and
the
original
phase
is
starting
to
have.
The
original
construction
is
beginning
to
have
a
lot
of
serious
issues
and
noise
Cultural
Arts
Center,
which
is
124
year
old
building
that
has
had
relatively
little
investment
in
it
for
the
last
20
to
40
years.
So.
D
B
A
B
A
You
to
really
under
have
people
on
this
committee
really
understand
what
are
the
trade-offs?
What
are
the
real
needs
so
that
we're
more
informed
to
to
make
a
recommendation
as
to
or
approval
as
to
how
much
we
should
be
bonding?
We
should
be
funding
through
the
budget,
so
this
this
is
one
of
the
four
beats
more
focused
Time
by
a
couple
of
people.
I'm
working
with
you,
okay,.
I
H
G
I
We
don't
get
all
26
million
from
the
other
sources,
sometimes
a
lot
of
times.
When
we
do
water
main
project,
98
of
the
of
the
construction
will
be
flown
eligible,
and
then
you
have
two
percent.
That's
not
because
resurfacing
more
of
the
street
than
what
would
than
just
the
trench
of
the
water
main
or
something
like
that.
So
there's
always
some
cost.
That
is
100.
G
And
this
is,
this
is
just
a
summary
slide.
I
was
going
to
go
through
a
list
of
projects
that
rgo
Bond
funded
this
year,
but
you
can
see
there
is
some
migration
in
the
categories.
Some
categories
go
up,
some
categories
go
down
and
this
is
really
a
function
of
what
we've
talked
about
like
what
are
the
benefits
of
selling
the
bonds
six
months
into
the
fiscal
year.
Is
that
we
know
some
of
the
prices
much
better
than
we
do
in
the
previous
September,
when
the
budget's
finalized
by
the
city
staff.
I
G
Sometimes
it's
a
change
in
scope
and
work,
I
mean
stuff
just
happens.
Some.
H
C
Mean
I
mean
we
don't
kind
of
do
like
yeah,
you
might
expect
in
the
private
sector
to
react
right
away,
and
we
didn't
know
the
market
right.
Uncertainty
was
so
much
Market
was
doing
so
greater
right,
around
November,
December,
even
January,
and
then
suddenly
what
we
see
for
the
last
few
months.
You
know
yes,
you're
right,
Market
was
down
even
some
of
the
council.
Members
might
know.
One
of
the
biggest
liabilities
for
us
is
a
pension
fund
and
I
said
some
of
the
communities
in
Evanston
for
the
first
time
have
started.
C
Looking
at
issuing
the
pension
obligation
part
because
of
the
low
interest
rate
now,
I
felt
in
December
that
oh,
my
God
I
could
have
pressed
hard
Council
to
go
for
it.
The
market
was
doing
great.
We
could
have
like
you
know.
Dollar
now,
I
talked
to
my
one
of
the
finance
directors.
The
way
the
market
is.
He
said,
oh
my
God,
we
gave
them
15
million
dollar
to
our
dual
expansion
fund
and
they
lost
almost
half
of
that,
and
so
our
Levy
would
be
the
same
amount.
C
J
C
Where
so,
the
transfer
tax
is
not
just
like
it's
a
one-line
item,
but
it's
part
of
the
general
fund,
so
we
have
to
look
at
the
fund
as
a
whole
and
I
think.
When
I
presented
the
financials
to
the
council,
I
said
there
is
a
like
expected
around
10
million
dollar
or
so
excess
fund
balance.
After
even
we
keep
aside
16.66
and
I
suggested
some
of
the
things
like
Insurance
Fund
is
running
a
negative
balance,
big
time,
Dave
stoneberg
Solid
Waste
fund.
C
C
And
I
still
have
set
aside,
like
a
million
and
a
half
to
two
million
to
use
to
reduce
the
bond
issue.
Yes,
that
is
one
of
those
things
out
of
that
extra
10
million
dollar
after
giving
to
the
Insurance
Fund
giving
for
the
solid
waste
fund
setting
aside
in
general
fund
for
the
increased
cost
of
fuel,
because
we
might
have
to
transfer
more
out
of
general
fund
to
the
fleet
fund
because
of
the
fuel
the
inventory
supplies,
the
Staffing
costs,
that's
kind
of
yeah,
it's
unbelievable.
C
You
know
so,
but
at
least
I
think
that
yes,
city,
council
and
right
now
the
budget
committee
can
look
at
and
say
yep
it
is
we
recommend
or
whatever
you
know,
the
discussion,
one
one
and
a
half
up
to
two
million
dollars
to
kind
of
use
towards
this
project
and
reduce
the
bond
issue.
E
E
Given
that
scope
of
work
or
saving
a
million
1.2
million
based
on
the
the
plan
scope
of
work
right,
we
could
we
could
increase
the
scope
of
work
and
and
still
go
still
find
out
the
10.9
million
and
just
do
more.
Yes,.
G
I
E
G
We
didn't
have
Personnel
constraints,
but
and
yes,
we
have
been
Outsourcing
some
Personnel
for
things
that
we
can't
just
not
do
that
work,
but
that
tends
to
be
very
expensive
for
engineers,
probably
for
everybody
but
yeah.
It's
definitely
not.
K
K
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
build
into
the
budget
process
and
I
know
we
don't
every
year
may
not
be
either
Surplus
here
in
the
same
way
that
that
we're
projecting
this
year
to
be
I
think
it's
important
to
build
in
into
the
process
where
there's
a
date
where
we
know
what
we
want
to
do
with
those
surplus
funds,
because
it
it's
concerning
to
me
for
funds
to
sit
around
when
I
know.
We
have
means
here
right
as
well
as
off
this
table.
We
have
pension
obligation,
things.
K
C
C
C
There
were
seven
or
eight
line
items:
Solid,
Waste,
One,
Insurance,
one
maintenance
items
out,
reduce
the
Geo
bonds,
extra
money
for
fuel
and
personal
and
supplies,
and
all
those
kind
of
and
still
yeah
I
can
bring,
but
unfortunately
I
never
got
a
chance
at
the
council,
because
the
budget
amendment
item
was
discussed
since
nobody
looked
at
the
presentation
so,
but
that
was
yeah
my
goal
to
let
you
know
and
get
some
direction
from
the
council.
Educators
I
agree
with
this
this,
but
not
this
rather
do
this.
K
A
I
Did
it
approved
the
use
of
Geo
bonds
rather
than
Geo
I'm
sorry
use
of
general
fund
Reserve
rather
than
Geo
bonds
for
approximately
860
000,
which
were
our
maintenance
items
on
streets?
So
they
were
brought
to
APW
the
city
council
indicating
we're
going
to
use
general
fund
reserves
rather
than
selling
bonds,
as
indicated
in
the
budget,
and
that
was
about
860..
I
So
that's
already
approved
I
am
crafting
a
memo
which
will
go
to
city
council,
probably
in
July,
to
talk
about
the
solid
waste
fund,
indicating
that
if
we
don't
transfer
money
in
we're
going
to
have
something
like
a
20
rate
increase
for
all
of
our
Solid
Waste
charges.
I
And
if
we
get
1.5,
then
it's
like
a
three
three
or
you
can
do
it
one
time
at
12,
whatever
you
want,
but
it
would
be
a
phenomenal
if
we
don't
do
anything
and
then
it
out
of
this
discussion
as
cash
takes
the
Geo
Bond
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
That's
when
he
would
enter
suggest
that
we
will
use
two
million
dollars
of
or
whatever
amount
that
is,
two
million
dollars
of
Geo
general
fund
Reserve.
Rather
than
selling
9.77.
I
C
G
So
I
have
provided
a
list
of
projects
in
the
general
obligation
Bond
and
how
the
funding
has
changed
and
you
may
choose
to
go
through
each
of
these
or
I
could
just
give
you
the
high
level,
but
essentially
in
Street,
resurfacing,
water
main
and
Sewer.
We
talked
that
you
know
it's
like
26
million
dollars
and
it's
a
relatively
small
part
is
used.
That's
General
obligation,
Bond.
There
are
some
changes
where
we
saw
increases
that
are
just
based
on
our
estimates
of
cost.
G
The
Church
Street
Corridor
project
we're
going
into
phase
two
engineering
at
the
end
of
this
year.
Street
resurfacing
on
Poplar
is
a
construction
project
that
we
anticipate
awarding
in
mid
to
late
summer
for
construction
in
the
fall
in
other
Transportation,
there's
actually
a
lot
of
line
items,
and
so
this
is
multiple
slides.
G
We
saved
quite
a
bit
of
money,
Central
Street,
Bridge
construction
is
turning
out
to
be
less
than
anticipated,
and
so
we
do
not
need
to
sell
the
bond
for
the
final
amount,
we're
doing
some
Viaduct
lighting
replacement
as
a
safety,
pedestrian
safety
Improvement
at
the
Metro
Viaduct
on
Lake
Street,
and
we
had
planned
to
do
this,
but
there's
just
additional
work
involved.
That
was,
we
didn't
know
until
we
hired
an
electrical
engineer,
Ridge
Avenue,
intersection
improvements.
G
I
000.,
if
I
could
break
it
in
council,
member
Kelly
has
made
it
clear
that
we
should
not
be
spending
this
money
out
on
bonds,
because
it's
maintenance
and
staff
fully
agrees
with
that.
We
are
not
opposed
to
that,
but,
unfortunately,
because
we've
never
had
a
surplus
in
the
general
fund
before
there
was
no
money
to
pay.
As
you
go
for
these
types
of
items,
and
yet
we
staff
fields
are
critical
to
get
done,
and
so
the
only
way
they
could
be
funded
was
by
the
sale
of
General
bonds.
I
Hey.
We
we're
all
for
not
using
Bond
money
for
these
buyers,
so
we're
glad
this
occurred.
We
hope
that
there's
enough
money
in
the
general
fund
in
future
years
to
be
able
to
fund
these
from
the
general
fund
rather
than
buying,
but
if
we're
going
to
stop
doing
it,
our
streets
are
going
to
fall
apart,
and
so
that's
that
was
the
decision
made
five
ten
years
ago.
That
will
sell
bonds
to
fund
these
projects.
C
And
that's
a
good
point
from
Dave
stoneberg,
because
what
would
happen
if
next
year,
safe
is
a
million
dollar
maintenance
items
and
particularly
the
council
members,
you
would
see
that
I'm,
like
okay
general
fund
expenses,
has
gone
up
because
of
this
million
dollars
and
as
this
is
yeah
I
mean
general
fund,
always
short
of
resources,
don't
raise
the
tax
law.
We
don't
raise
that
so
we
kind
of
went
through
this.
C
We
ideal
not
ideal
from
the
financial
standpoint,
because
it's
the
maintenance
item,
why
we
pay
the
bonds
over
20
years,
but
this
was
the
yeah
history,
so
it
would
come
to
the
three
Council
and
make
the
decision
you
have.
General
fund
expense
has
gone
up
million
dollars
because
of
this
maintenance.
So.
C
G
They're
they're.
G
To
ten
year
improvements,
but
we
it's
so
much
cheaper
to
do
patching
or
crack
ceiling
than
it
is
to
resurface
the
entire
street.
It's
the
only
way
that
we
can
even
come
close
to
keeping
up
with
the
street
issues,
but
you're
completely
correct.
They
will
never
last
20
years
and
what's
your
process
on
determining.
G
Do
you
guys
I
organize
staff
meetings
of
the
interests
parties,
so
Transportation
comes
from
a
primarily
Public
Works
staff
that
maintain
the
roads
and
the
engineering
staff
meet
together
and
discuss
what
we
think
is
needed,
but
in
streets
and
transportation
a
lot
of
it
is
very
similar.
Year
to
year
we
plan
for
a
mile
and
a
half
of
water
main
replacement
every
year
in
order
to
keep
up
with
the
system
which.
I
I
G
J
G
D
G-R-A-D-I-N-G
project
a
number
of
years
ago,
in
order
to
assess
a
massive
assessment
of
like
which
streets
are
the
worst
and
and
then
and
which
should
be
addressed
first,
yes,.
G
That's
true,
so
we
use
that
those
grades,
and
then
we
also
look
at
of
what
happened
after
the
winter.
So
it's
the
grades
are
great
on
year,
one,
but
by
year
five
they're
less
helpful
and
sort
of
out
of
date.
This
3-1-1
yeah
that
so
the
main
that's
where
the
maintenance
staff
comes
in
I
mean
they're,
the
ones
getting
the
3-1-1
requests,
and
so
they
can
tell
you
like
here's
where
we're
having
a
lot
of
issues
on
these
streets,
and
then
they
will
also
go
out
and
evaluate
them
as
well.
G
I
And
this
would
be
another
real
quick
example
that
we
could
use.
We
have
150
miles
of
streets
and
you
pay
the
street
and
it
might
have
20
years
of
life
divide
that
150
by
20,
and
you
should
be
doing
eight
miles
of
Street
resurfacing
a
year.
We
generally
do
about
two
at
700
000
that
we
spend
on
Street.
Action
really
helps
to
extend,
because,
instead
of
Paving
from
curved
to
curb
we're
taken
out
where
you
know
the
asphalt
joint
was
it's
all
pothole
and
we
grind
that
off
and
we
pay
only
that
section.
I
I
Something
that
we're
we
just
started
using
three
years
ago,
so,
three
to
four
years
after
you
pay
the
street,
you
can
rejuvenate
and
put
more
bitumen
into
the
material
which
then
it
helps
to
extend
the
life
of
it.
So
we're
starting
to
do
that
and
then
the
crack
ceiling,
three
or
four
years
after
you
paid
the
street
and
the
starts
to
separate.
If
you
can
feel
that
crack
and
keep
water
out
of
it,
you
don't
have
water,
penetrating
and
freezing
and
making
bigger
bottles.
G
So
now
we're
going
to
get
into
parks
and
that
facilities-
and
these
are
really
different,
because
this,
what
you're
looking
at,
is
pretty
much
the
entire
budget,
there's
very
little
additional
money
in
parks
and
Facilities.
This
year
we
have
a
little
bit
of
additional
for
Community
Development
block
grants
to
provide
electricity
for
public
operation
and
a
couple
of
our
Park
shelters.
G
G
I
G
A
A
G
A
J
G
Should
be
resurfacing,
courts
every
10
to
12
years
yeah,
we
resurface
them
more
like
every
20
years.
This
includes
Courts
at
four
locations,
but
it
does
not
include
I
mean
what
the
information
is
like
James
park
has
six
courts
there.
Most
of
our
courts
are
only
two
or
four
courts.
So,
although
we
have
four
locations,
many
many
courts,
we
did
not
actually
get
any
bids,
but
we
are
going
to
rebid
it
shortly.
E
E
G
As
we
redo
tennis
courts,
we're
planning
on
adding
additional
lines
for
pickleball
as
we
do
them.
We
have
done
some
courts
and
we're
trying
it
out
where
we
just
re-coat
with
the
color
code.
But
that
only
lasts
three
to
five
years
and
we
don't
have
the
maintenance
staff
to
keep
up
with
that
kind
of
recoding
or.
I
B
G
We're
in
process
of
trying
to
assemble
this
of
our
assets
and
various
ages
of
different
assets
so
that
we
can
be
more
predictive
in
what
the
financials
are
and
we
are
assigned
sort
of
simultaneously
on
a
parallel
track.
We
have
issued
a
request
for
proposal
to
hire
a
consultant
to
do
a
park,
strategic
plan
sure,
and
that
will
also
provide
us
with
some
information
about
where
we
should
be
going
and
what
parks
are
in
the
worst
condition.
We
did
a
scorecard
many
years
ago.
G
That's
almost
sort
of
being
out
of
date
at
this
point,
but
what
the
scorecard
didn't
do
is
tell
you
like
what
you
need
is
more
pickleball
courts.
It
didn't
tell
you
what
you
need
right.
It
told
you
what
was
failing,
but
not
what.
G
I
would
expect
them
to
be
pretty
involved
in
the
Strategic
plan,
for
example,
what
we
have
and
what
needs
to
be
maintained,
is
sort
of
that
is
more
coming
from
staff
Gathering
lists
of
Assets
in
various
ages
of
the
assets,
but
I.
Imagine
that
that
will
be
worked
into
the
Strategic
fund
as
well,
but.
I
And
I
think
the
Strategic
plan
informed
that
change
as
well
and
then
yeah
I'll
just
note
that
there's
an
ordinance
that
authorized
the
parks
and
rec
boards.
D
So
you
know
I'll
say
that
completely
heretical
thing
of
you
know:
a
Skokie
has
a
separate
Parks
and
Rec
Department
an
attacking
body
and
has
Evanston
ever
looked
at
doing
that.
I
D
That's
what
that's,
what
I
thought
so,
but
I
mean
it's
a
it
doesn't,
and
it
just
means
a
different
tax
in
God
I.
D
C
D
K
D
The
parts
of
breckport
is
more
removed
from
from
the
public
than
we
are
as
a
counselor,
so
I
mean
we
could
improve
how
much
money
we
spend,
but
we
would
have
to
raise
everybody's
property
taxes
in
order
to
do
it
and
that's
been.
The
reluctance
is
trying
to
maintain
a
low
tax
rate
to
the
point
where
we,
you
know
where
we
no
longer
do
three
playgrounds
a
year.
We
did
used
to
be
three
playgrounds
a
year,
but
right
now
we
only
do
one
well.
G
Yeah
I
was
just
going
to
say
and
as
we
prepare
next
year's
budget
I
mean
this
year's
budget
we've
sort
of
put
in
the
engineering
and
the
Consulting
fees
for
four
playgrounds,
because
we've
gotten
to
such
a
bad
State
and
we're
removing
equipment
at
these
playgrounds.
The
majority,
except
for
back
part
I,
mean
these
are
all
playgrounds
that
have
not
been
improved
for
at
least
20
years.
G
So
it's
it's
then
hits
us
next
year
when
we
have
to
go
into
construction
on
these,
like
funding,
100
125
000
for
Consulting
can
be
done
pretty
easily
funding,
seven
hundred
thousand
or
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
playground.
Improvement
is
a
whole
other
animal
all
right.
Yes,.
G
Not
so
many
okay,
so
this
you
can
just
see
here,
it's
relatively
unchanged
in
Parks.
Actually
part
of
that
is
because
we
have,
we
don't
have
anything
in
construction
and
we're
just
getting
the
Consulting
Services
going
now
facilities.
We
had
a
couple
of
things.
Probably
the
biggest
thing
here
is
that
we
just
are
unable,
for
Staffing
reasons
to
do
the
city-wide
roof
repairs
this
year,
and
we
just
got
the
report
from
last
year
to
do
an
assessment
of
what
needs
to
be
done
over
the
next
five
years.
G
Park
field
houses.
On
the
other
hand,
we
got
the
scope
of
work
of
what's
needed
from
our
facilities
group
for
improvements,
and
it's
substantially
more
than
we
anticipated,
so
we're
recommending
just
moving
that
money
and
then
the
cat.
This
is
a
whole
different
category.
Capital
fund,
the
miscellaneous
projects
have
to
date
included
carp,
although
those
will.
G
G
Keep
the
fan
box
replacements,
became
a
crisis
and
were
funded
in
last
year's
budget,
so
we
don't
need
it.
This
year
we
decided
around
December,
it
just
had
to
be
done,
but
when
we
prepared
this
budget
in
August.
G
Essentially,
in
an
HVAC
system,
it's
an
inline
unit
that
boosts
how
fast
the
air
is
Flowing.
So
what
ended
up
happening?
Is
we
had
a
number
of
them
fail
at
the
Levy
Center?
We
had
done
some
HVAC
Replacements
that
were
not
fully
functional
because
the
fan
boxes
had
failed.
So
basically
the
gym
was
not
getting
any
air
conditioned
air,
and
so
it
became
more
of
an
emergency
we
fixed
it
sooner
rather
than
later
and
and
we
paid
for
it
out
of
our
facilities.
Contingency
last.
D
Year,
it
is
the
is
the
lack
of
engine
engineering
staff.
Is
that
the
marketplace,
or
it's.
G
A
mix
you
know
we
have
probably
tripled
the
number
of
projects
in
the
last
six
years
and
we've
only
increased
the
staff
by
a
little
and
then
because
of
some
new
issues
and
regulations.
G
G
J
D
G
Yes,
we
also
lost
a
person
that
managed
like
sidewalk
program,
which
is
a
really
intensive
use,
and
so
we
were
hoping
to
leverage
them
because
they
also
did
some
other
construction
management
and
they're
gone
so
that
that
and
the
right-of-way
permits
were
just
Consulting
out,
because
we
can't
be
without
somebody
to
process
right
away
from
those.
G
Miscellaneous,
which
includes
art,
sustainability
and
miscellaneous
stuff,
sometimes
I.T
stuff,
the
financial
model,
our
management,
analyst
who's
relatively
new-
has
been
able
to
do
the
type
of
modeling.
We
need
to
look
at
our
long-term
capital
fund
needs
and
in
future
years,
we're
going
to
pull
sustainability
into
its
own
section
of
the
CIP.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
like
80
percent
of
the
projects
involve
sustainability
measures,
but
there
are
some
things
like
figuring
out
how
to
implement
solar
panels
on
roofs
of
many
City
buildings.
G
G
Fiber
optic
systems
to
the
parking
garage
is
one
that
will
be
bringing
the
council
shortly.
We
actually
have
pricing
on
it
and
it's
just
more
than
we
budgeted
and
some
of
these
other
projects.
Some
have
already
occurred
like
parking
meter
purchases,
the
parking
lot,
improvements
on
Poplar
and
Central
or
coming
to
council
soon,
and
so
this
isn't
all
the
parking
fund.
This
is
just
what's
needed
to
be
bonded
in
order
to
be
abated.
E
G
G
We
delayed
for
technical
reasons.
The
retail
water
meter
replacement
as
we
coordinate
with
the
lead
service
line
regulations.
G
Our
30
inch
transmission
main
is
largely
funded
by
a
loan,
a
loan
for
Sloan
through
the
iepa,
but
there
had
been
any
number
of
unforeseen
conditions.
The
council's
already
approved
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
change.
Orders
they'll
probably
be
more
issues.
It's
just
turning
out
to
be
quite
a
problem,
but
this
30
inch
main
is
one
of
the
backbones
of
the
providing
pressure
throughout
the
system
and
most
of
the
water
flowed
to
the
downtown.
So
we
have
limited
choices
in
fixing.
It
is.
D
G
It
it's
a
series
of
big
problem:
each
one
of
the
problems
might
be
50
or
80
000,
but
it's
a
number
of
things.
B
I
I
C
E
G
Property
tax
last
slide
because
I
know
you
had
other
things
to
talk
about.
This
is
just
like.
We
have
some
funding
concerns
that
are
happening
now
and
in
2023
that
I
don't
believe
that
we
can
keep
to
our
current
budgets.
If
we
want
to
do
all
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
so,
the
skate
park
is
budgeted
at
1.25
million.
We
are
starting
to
see
real
inflation
happen
with
construction
costs,
and
it's
concerning
I
don't
have
enough
like.
We
can't
even
predict
it,
because
our
supply
chains
are
so
unreliable.
G
It's
just
getting
really
weird,
so
that
project
is
going
to
go
out
to
bid
at
the
end
of
the
year
for
next
year.
Construction.
It's
mostly
funded
in
this
year,
not
quite
sure.
What's
going
to
happen
with
that,
and
then
next
year's
budget,
the
2023
budget,
we
have
already
identified
a
number
of
things
that
are
hitting
us
that
we
do
not
have
the
ability
to
manage
all
these
projects
within
the
current
budget
and
a
lot
of
these
things
like
if
I
could
take
all
the
Civic
Center
stuff
out
and
the
Fountain
Square
repairs
that.
H
G
H
K
G
A
Got
the
council
to
decide
I
mean
if
they
decide
yeah
that
we
want
to
fix
it.
G
Yeah,
so
we
have
a
number
of
these
projects
and
you
know
normally
I
think
we
would
be
able
to
manage
them,
but
with
the
Civic
Center,
just
starting
to
really
hit
us
and
the
Fountain
Square
repairs
which
were
not
anticipated
as
a
long-term
cost
for
us
I'm
baffled,
and
there
are
other
many
other
things,
obviously
in
the
Geo
Bond.
But
we
don't
usually
have
this
many
projects
over
a
million
dollars
that
are
solely
Bond
funded.
So.
I
G
G
E
D
K
D
I
I
Can't
replace
the
lead
service
line
and
then
resurface
the
street
the
same
year,
just
finding
more
in
a
lab,
so
we're
starting
to
coordinate
all
that
effort
in
to
our
program.
So
the
and
that's
going
to
be
a
big
cost
as
well.
That
will
come
from
a
water
fund
where
we're
hoping
five
in
and
everybody
else.
I
So
we're
well
ahead
of
it
like
Skokie
right
now
is
considering
whether
they
want
to
award
the
water
main
project
or
not,
because
they
haven't
figured
out
their
related
service
lines
they
at
this
point
they
don't
have
the
funding
and
they're
going
to
go.
Tell
a
homeowner!
Well,
you
need
to
pay
for
your
half
the
light
service
line,
the
Home
Orange
early.
I
I
A
So
so
I
think
this
is
a
perfect
example.
A
subcommittee
here
could
meet
with
you
guys
before
this
and
and
we
could
be
more
summarized
relative.
What
are
the
issues
that
the
committee
should
understand?
So
then
the
council
kind
of
understand,
Ing,
and
that
would
be
very
you
know
very,
very
helpful.
There's
a
whole
lot
that
we
just
talked
about
there,
but
how
do
we
I
think?
One
issue
that
we
have
is:
how
do
we
communicate
there
right?
A
How
do
we
summarize
and
communicate-
and
these
are
the
action
items
that
needed
discussion
about
a
skate
park-
was
approved
at
one
and
a
quarter?
Let's
discuss
what
the
real
cost
is
going
to
be.
How
do
you
you
know,
get
to
the
real
the
big
issues
that
need
to
be
discussed,
I'm,
more,
more
organized
and
commutative?
Well,
like
we.
A
A
A
G
A
I
Off
Steph
appreciates
that
this
committee
exists
to
be
able
to
to
come
and
share
our
information
with
you.
I
can
tell
you
for
the
next
council
meeting.
There
are
already
38
items
on
the
city
council
agenda,
two
discussion
items
at
APW,
two
discussion
items
at
p
d
and
it's
going
to
be
a
long
night.
If
we
go
to
council
to
say
we'd
like
to
talk
about
this,
we'll
probably
have
10
minutes,
and
we
just
spent
right
a
half
an
hour
to
an
hour,
discussing
this
at
a
much
more
relaxed
pace
and
try
to
share
information.
G
We
can
certainly
talk
about
how
to
modify
how
how
or
get
the
parks
and
rec
board
and
stuff
involved.
I
mean
I
think
those
are
relatively
straightforward
choices
to
make,
but
the
city
faces
a
structural
deficit
that
they
either
need
to
stop
putting
in
playgrounds
and
remove
a
bunch
of
playgrounds
and
potentially
sell
some
of
parks
where
they
need
to
identify
money
to
pay
for
them,
and
the
same
is
true
for
facilities.
When
I
look
at
rcip
year
after
year,
all
the
other
sections
of
the
CIP
are
manageable.
G
You
can
have
plans
occasionally
you
have
the
open,
Corridor
Oakton
Corridor
Improvement,
because
of
the
nature
of
that
Street's,
not
really
a
good
candidate
for
any
federal
funding,
and
so
you
have
that
big
project
once
in
a
while,
but
most
of
our
projects
were
able
to
manage
through
getting
supplemental
funding.
The
CIP
is
reasonable
for
a
city
of
this
size,
but
our
parks
and
Facilities.
G
A
We
did
a
lot
of
Park.
Improvements
can
understand
that
and
focus
on
what
those
are
and
I
it
seems.
It
seems
yeah
very,
very
clear,
so
that
they're
going
to
be
some
difficult
choices
for
the
council
to
need
to
one
clarify.
This
is
a
choice.
I
need
to
make
right
and
have
the
the
ability
to
think
about
it
and
have
it
be
communicated
in
a
good
way
and
their
problems
will
do
some
difficult,
Ure.
H
H
Street
last
15
years,
we're
patching
them.
You
know
just
so
when
you
do
these
Council
meetings.
Of
course
everyone
wants
everything,
but
we
can't
do
everything
and
if
we
show
that
there
was
thought
there
that
we're
picking
things
that
are
the
most
important
but
that
we're
not
overdoing
things
at
all.
B
D
As
you
just
said,
Sherry
in
the
in
the
sense
of
you
know,
we've
been
trying
to
stretch
our
dollars
and
stretch
our
dollars
and
we
know
no
longer
count.
So
we
are
now
at
this
point
where
we
either
we
stop
doing
things
before
we
decided
that
we're
going
to
pay
for
them
adequately,
and
you
know,
we've
said
that
for
a
number
of
years,
but
now
we
have
a
list
of
like
here
are
the
things
we
will
have
to
stop
doing
or
or
refund
them
by
this
much
and
and
get
that
message
across.
A
All
right,
so
the
next
on
the
agenda
with
the
pilot
money
Claire
is
not
here.
Thank
you
and
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
so
we're
gonna
hold
it
hold
that
we're
gonna
hold
that
okay
I,
wonder
if
okay
monthly
Financial
strength
structure,
we.
A
E
A
Right-
let's
not
right
now,
yeah!
So
let's
go
to
this
areas
of
focus,
and
this
is
really
where
I
think
we
can
make
a
fundamental
change
here.
So
I
think
we
do
a
good
job
of
talking
about
some
issues
every
month
and
like
a
lot
of
things,
not
a
lot
maybe
happens
in
between.
There
might
be
some
communication
back
and
forth,
but
it's
not
not
systematic.
A
A
Member
councilman,
council
member
so
here
here
are
areas
that
I
think
again
open
for
discussion
that
I.
If
we
had
really
good
views
on
these,
we
really
have
made
progress
and
all
of
them
are
about
infrastructure,
okay,
so
the
first
one,
which
is
what
you
were
talking
about-
improving
the
presentation
and
timeliness
and
financial
updates
to
the
council.
A
I
think
you
were
just
talking
about
that
to
Sherry
I
think
you
were
just
talking
about.
There
have
been
some
improvements
and
I
think
we
talked
about
you.
Have
you
have
some
interest
in
that?
Why
don't
you
own
that,
with.
B
A
A
Second,
would
be,
and
you
and
I
have
you
probably
sick
of
my
spreadsheets-
it's
not
where
I
want
it
to
be
right,
but
I
very
much
believe
we
need
to
develop
a
current
year
and
longer
term
projection
model
that
when
we
say
oh,
we
have
this
big
Capital
need.
We
have
a
framework
to
put
that
in
and
we
know
that
boom.
This
creates
this
deficit
or
boom.
This
creates
this
level
of
incremental
revenue
or
bonding
that
we
need
to
have
things
balanced,
I
I
would
really
like
to
be.
A
You
know
work
with
you
on
on
that,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
I
can
use
the
auto
file
I'm
a
little
bit
of
an
impact
I'm
not
quite
where
I
need
to
be,
but
at
least
I
have
I
have
a
start
of.
We
need
a
financial
model
that
it's
never
going
to
be
exactly
right.
Going
forward
it's
going
to
get
better
over
time,
but
we
know
what
the
relative.
J
A
And
we
we
can
understand
if
we
need
to
spend
five
million
dollars
more
a
year
in
in
Capital.
We
know
what
it's
going
to
do.
What
does
that
imply
relative
to
what
tax
levies
need
to
be
just
something
that
works,
I
think
we're
a
little
bit.
We
don't
have
the
visibility
we
need
to
even
the
current
year
at
a
Time
current
update
for
the
year
or
two
or
three
years
now,
so
we
just
let's
build
a
model
that
at
least
points
Us
in
the
right
direction
or
what
are
the
dependencies?
A
A
pension
obligations
Maybe
right,
maybe
we
do
need
a
couple
people
to
work
on
you
know.
Maybe
it
is
three
or
four
people
here,
but
how
do
we
understand
one
on
the
pension
side,
this
whole
issue
of
return
on
assets
or
funding?
What
should
we
be
funding?
How
is
it
going
to
increase
over
time
to
get
to
a
funding
goal
and
on
the
debt
side?
How
much
debt
do
we
do?
Are
there
Alternatives?
You
know
what.
H
A
H
A
A
So
we
can
break
that
up
into
pension
and
debt
right
sort
of
sort
of
thing,
but
also
I
would
like
to
think
about.
You
know
we're
using
the
best
advisor
on
the
debt
side.
We
should
open
that
back
up
and
and
I
have
someone
that's
been
recommended
not
to
say
that
we
should
make
a
change
relative
with
debt
advisors,
but
I
think
one.
Are
there
other
structures,
besides
just
issuing
bonds,
particularly
in
this
environment,.
C
A
minute
I
looked
at
it,
private
placement
is
one
of
the
options.
Right
now
is
popular
with
couple
of
cities
in
this
environment.
So
we
can
look
at
that.
The
other
thing
is
yes:
if
the
council
approves
use
a
million
million
and
have
reduced
the
bank
Europe
amount,
so
that
is
the
other
option.
Yeah
and.
A
There's
also
things
like
is
a
is
a
relatively
significantly
sized
Bank
facility.
That's
at
a
variable
rate,
that's
going
to
be
lower
than
a
fixed
rate
today,
something
that
actually,
what
are
the
options?
Besides
issuing
another
20-year
bond
in
an
interest
rate
environment
that
is,
is
we
might
look
like
a
year
from
now?
So
that's.
C
A
A
Is
a
b
c
and
d
this,
so
we
we
provide
better
information
for
here,
but
then
really
concise
information
for
the
city
council,
so
they
don't
have
to
sit
through
things.
They
can
say
we
need
to
talk
about
yeah,
whatever
skate
park.
What
do
you
know
this?
You
know
whatever
it
could
be.
That's
driving
the
need,
for
you
know,
especially
any
surprises
relative
to
what
is
interesting
so
and
then,
if
once
we
really
would
understand,
we
have
a
good
idea
on
just
Capital
budgeting
and
what's
going
through
there,
we
have
a
working
model.
A
F
A
C
A
C
A
B
B
D
Sales
one-time
asset
sales
that
then
save
us
money,
because
we
are
not
maintaining
the
asset
anymore.
A
A
A
B
K
And
it
may
not
the
capital
budget
and
the
maintenance,
because
I'm
interested
in
maintenance
budgeting
a
lot
okay
but
I,
don't
but
I
feel
like
somebody
else
will
probably
want
to
take
a
capital
budgeting
if
I'm
interested
in
maintenance
I'm
also
interested
in
the
topic.
But
if.
A
A
Is
it
well
so
we're
going
to
make
debt
separate
from
pension,
okay
and
I'll,
take
Dan,
I,
said
sorry,
I,
guess
and
Sherry
will
take
we'll
take
pension
and
then
so
that
is
five
and
we
have
one.
Two
three
have
five
people.
We
have
five
council
members.
Do
you
guys
want
to
decide
who
the
council
member
person
is
on
each
of
the
550
labor?
Now
it
doesn't
have
to
yeah?
Why
don't
we.
K
A
Then,
who,
who
would
who
would
like
to
work
on
a
longer
term,
projection
model.
E
H
Well,
I
can
send
it
just
like
I
just
sent
it
yeah
I,
just
I
just
sent
it
to
everybody.
F
Let's
then,
for
the
five
council
members,
you
know
we
have
me
on
the
phone
Claire's,
not
here
three
in
the
room,
I
think
maybe
just
sending
it
I
think
still
did
fairly
clear
agreement
between
us
about
who
should
slotted,
where.