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A
A
Okay,
so
we'll
get
the
order
of
the
who
we
should
do
sorry.
Mr
mortality
for
public
comments,
Gina
Castro,
if
you
want
to
do
a
public
comment,
please
unmute
yourself!
Thank
you.
A
B
A
That
I
couldn't
speak
to
them.
Committee,
I'm
elected
to
my
second
term,
pension
Board,
responsibility,
which
I
think
very
seriously,
and
this
month
I
start
my
seventh
year
and
I
was
spending
kind
of
accomplishment
anymore.
It's
been
70
years
here.
I
first
want
to
talk
about
the
fifth
award
Center
printed.
That
off
today.
D
A
Look
at
it
last
night
on
the
website.
It
had
a
really
great
comprehensive
survey
in
there
bunch
of
different
categories
of
stuff.
It
was
nice
in
like
four
or
five
choices
you
can
make
and
what's
your
first
first
choice
and
second
choice,
so
I
just
want
to
I
know
like
I'm
too
late
for
the
survey,
but
I'd
say
my
first
and
second
choices
option
one:
the
minimal
impact
of
the
city
guns.
D
A
D
B
B
B
B
A
All
right,
the
other
thing
was
funny:
the
100
of
the
pension
and.
C
A
Have
fun
descriptions
and
they
go
through
every
fund,
but
when
they
get
to
the
pension
trust
funds,
they
talk
about
how
they're
funded
and
they
talk
about.
Resources
are
contributed
by
sworn
fire
members
at
a
fish
rate
mandated
by
State
Statute,
that's
true,
but
then
it
has
by
the
city
to
an
annual
property
tax
levy
as
determined
by
independent
actuary.
That's
only
partially
true,
in
fact,
it
gives
the
impression
that's
the
only
way
you
can
function
that
creates
the
boogeyman.
Oh
you're,
going
to
rate
you
know,
you're
100,
going
to
raise.
A
2008.,
the
city
put
this
together
to
take
a
real
hard
look
at
why
the
pension
Grew
From
a
debt
of
45
million
I
think
in
a
few
years
to
145.,
and
they
took
a
hard
look
at
that,
and
sometimes
it
pays
to
go
back
to
see
what's
missing
this
and
then
they
talking
here
similarly
fully
funded
plans
ensure
that
the
city
and
its
citizens
did
not
have
cost
or
concern
about
disruptive
scrambles
to
fund
or
Finance
its
pension
office
in
the
years
ahead.
This
is
the
Blue
Ribbon
community
that
we
were
ignoring
the
90.
A
Also
thank
God
we've
gone
to
100
now
with
Retina
life,
but
also
what
should
be
done
to
fix
the
problem.
I
didn't
I
didn't
write
this.
This
is
the
Blue
Ribbon
committee.
They
give
five
ways
to
do
this
without
breaking
taxes,
and
they
say
the
committee
strongly
recommends
that
property
tax
increases
should
only
actually
should
only
be
considered
as
a
last
resort
and
that
this
was
always
painted.
A
The
Boogeyman
demonize
his
attention,
I'm
going
to
keep
bringing
this
up
and
undeanizes
it's
one
of
the
most
fiscally
responsible
things
that
we
can
do
in
this
city
is
to
fund
these
Ventures
at
100
and
not
keep
kicking.
This
can
down
the
road
and
I.
Thank
the
council
for
seeing
a
light
on.
This
is
I.
Don't
want
to
go
to
pprt
because
that's
one
great
way:
I'll
I'm
granted
as
fast
as
I
can
and
pprt
by
our
friendly
Illinois
municipality.
A
A
D
B
A
And
so
there's
11.5
million
dollars.
It
just
goes
into
the
general
funds
and
I
just
can't.
In
my
point
of
view.
You
know
why
do
we
have
such
healthy
reserves,
because
it's
that
pprt
we
didn't
have
that
11.5
million
dollars
extra?
What
would
they
be?
You
know
flipping
on
its
head.
Let's
say
you
work
at
pprt
where.
A
A
And
that's
by
I'll.
Just
thank
you
for
your
time.
I'll
be
happy
to
send
you
all
these
figures
and
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
again
there's
6
000
entries
and
it's
134
pages
and
one
line
is
bearing
there
for
Emerson,
but
it
is
in
there.
Okay
and
that's
that's
where
I
got
all
these
figures
from
okay.
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
pension
players
on
our
work
plan.
Okay,.
B
C
C
A
So
when
we
talk
about
a
community
center,
what
we
need
I
can't
imagine
that
we
would
begin
talking
these
numbers
just
because
we're
home
rule.
We
should
not
be
moving
forward
on
a
project.
That's
fitting!
You
guys
are
the
finance
and
budget
community,
no
other
community
on
the
North
Shore
would
even
contemplate
discussing
it
without
a
pride
from
the
entire
Community.
This
is
not
one
Community
Center
for
one
area.
A
This
is
money,
that's
going
to
be
spent
the
city,
there
is
talk
and
it
was
taught
in
the
our
updates
to
updates
Fleetwood
journey
and
there
is
a
capital
Improvement
program
that
does
not
included
nuclear.
What's
your
name
and
just
because
the
district
school
district
wants
to
build
it
forward
to
define
a
great
it's
kind
of
supposedly
doesn't
cost
anything
just
mean
that
the
city
taxpayers
should
be
given
a
bill
for
30
to
54
million
dollars
for
a
community
center
that
we
don't
need.
A
We
don't
even
know
what
we
need
at
this
point,
so
I
just
really
wanting
to
a
budget.
For
me
to
take
pull
in
the
ways
on
that
slow,
this
down
evolve
the
entire
career,
making
some
home
rules.
It's
not
me
just
don't,
spend
money
more
importance
of
the
misconception
at
the
city.
Someone
said:
disadvantages.
A
On
our
Parks
and
Rec
project
list
for
the
entire
last
year
never
been
on
here
for
a
new
parts
of
our
community
and
it's
not
under
23
million
dollar
Capital
Improvement
budget.
So
this
needs
to
be
look
at
that
and
I
was
was
concerned
that
the
survey
wasn't
upset.
They
have
more
second
of
all
proposals.
If
you
had
someone
winning
a
billion
dollar
lottery
that
wants
to
tie
it.
A
Maybe
we
have
a
different
discussion
but
see
there's
nothing
out
there
about
the
city
or
not
the
city,
but
the
equivalent
to
putting
on
your
ground
parking
in
I
know
they
cost
money.
But
if
we
want
green
space
that
we
can
put
them
underground,
we
could
talk
about
collaborating
with
you
in
the
city
or
Family
Focus
about
building
a
two-player
structure.
We
don't
need
to
take
away
Gilbert
Park
and
possibly
put
a
deal
with
it.
No
free
space
needs
to
do.
If
you
take
everybody
from
that,
and
then
the
school
district
can
work
with
them.
B
A
Member
Reed
chair
Livingston,
your
Committee
Member
McMillan,
your
Committee
Member
Rankin.
B
Ess,
okay,
so
we
are
officially.
We
do
have
a
number
of
people
who
have
joined
now
or
joined
online
as
well,
since
we
start
for
a
couple
of
comments.
Yes,
okay,.
A
All
right
good,
so
let's
continue
the
public
comments.
Deborah
Jester.
Would
you
like
to
meet
yourself
for
public
comment.
C
Hello,
I
would
just
reiterate
what
Mary
had
said
and
also
Jack
Martell.
Those
are
two
really
high
priority,
pricey
things
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
and
work
in
the
right
direction
with.
C
It
is
really
on
on
unsustainable
to
consider
another
Community
Center
right
now
and
feel
that
we
need
to
be
pressured
and
pushed
into
something,
because
another
entity
feels
they
need
to
get
going
on
their
project.
I
mean
that's
just
not
something
to
do
that
to
the
community
and
it's
it's
not
fiscally
responsible.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
A
You're
good,
so
approval
of
the
minutes.
Does
anyone
have
any
comments
on
the
minutes
that
were
circulated.
A
Aye
County
member
Burns,
councilmember
Kelly,
aye,
council
member
newsman.
C
B
B
D
A
Hello,
all
my
name
is
Lara
Biggs
I'm,
the
city
engineer
for
the
City
of
Evanston
and
Clayton
asked
me
here
to
do
a
brief
update
about
the
Fifth
Ward
school
project
that
the
city
has
been
working
with
the
school
district
on.
So
previous
I'll
just
do
a
really
quick
history.
A
That
property,
which
is
Foster
field,
provides
a
significant
Green
Space
to
the
community
and
also
is
critical
to
programming.
That's
offered
at
Family
Focus
and
at
the
cities
Fleetwood
Jordan,
Community
Center.
The
city
does
quite
a
lot
of
critical
programming
for
the
population
that
is
served
by
Fleetwood
Jordan
that
involves
Child
Care,
both
after
school
programs
and
summer
camps,
as
well
as
various
enrichment
programs
for
children.
A
Without
that
green
space,
it
really
impacts
the
ability
to
Fleetwood
Jordan
to
provide
the
same
type
of
child
care
programming
that
they
provide
currently,
and
so
the
city
began,
working
with
the
school
district
to
try
to
determine
what
the
possibilities
were
for
providing
a
more
coordinated
project
and
improvements
in
order
to
preserve
to
determine,
if
it's
possible,
to
preserve
a
green
space
and
to
that
end
on
August
8th,
the
city
council
voted
to
engage
a
separate
contract
with
the
school
district's
architect
court
again
Clark
that
they've
been
working
with
to
investigate
this
issue.
A
So
the
city
has
their
own
contract
with
Gordon
Clark
and
entered
into
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
the
school
district
to
work
on
determining
what
synergies
could
be
had.
So
since
then,
which
has
really
only
been
about
four
months
is
a
very
short
time
in
the
capital
program
world.
So
we
have
been
working
with
the
school
district
to
and
actually
Family
Focus.
We've
engaged
quite
a
bit
as
well
to
determine
what
are
the
options?
Are
there
synergies?
Can
we
figure
out
a
way
to
move
forward
on
the
site
while
maintaining
a
green
space?
A
A
At
the
same
exact
time,
we
looked
at
sharing
a
commercial
kitchen
which
a
school
needs
to
have
at
Fleetwood
Jordan
uses
for
delivering
community
meal
programs,
and
what
we
found
is
we
needed
at
the
exact
same
time
as
each
other,
so
as
we
were
going
through
all
these
big
ticket
items
in
the
building,
what
we're
finding
is
we
need
them
all.
At
the
same
time,
the
school
needs
the
gym
for
after
school
program.
We
need
a
gym
for
after
school
programs.
Family
Focus
also
needs
a
gym.
A
At
the
same
time,
so
it
became
a
struggle
to
figure
out
how
to
share
space.
That's
interior
to
the
building.
There
are
options
or
opportunities
to
share
space
on
the
site,
because
a
green
space
or
a
field
or
tennis
courts
or
basketball
courts.
It
does
turn
out
that
we
actually
do
need
these
things
at
different
times.
We
need
to
much
more
heavily
during
the
weekends
in
the
summer.
That's
not
typically
the
time
that
the
school
district
is
using
those
facilities.
So
there
we
think,
there's
you
know
things
like
parking.
A
We
did
work
with
the
school
district
to
develop
and
according
to
Clark,
to
develop
kind
of
four
options
about
how
you
could
maintain
a
green
space
on
the
site
and
to
that
we
can
move
to
the
next
slide
option.
One
or
actually
this
first
slide
shows
the
property
allocation
for
the
general
site
and
on
this
slide,
North
is
to
the
right
that
is
Simpson
Street,
which
is
the
north
border
of
the
of
the
property
purple
area
is
family.
Focused
property
is
actually
owned
by
Family
Focus.
A
D
A
Originally
a
long
time
ago,
but
I
think
it
got
divvied
up
around
the
50s
and
Fleetwood
Jordan
was
built
in
1954
as
part
of
if
I
remember
correctly,
as
part
of
the
divvying
up
of
the
property
was
to
provide
a
school
District.
65
didn't
really.
They
always
maintained
Foster
field
as
their
Green
Space
and
ultimately
leased
it
back
to
the
city
for
to
be
a
part
which
is
where
Foster
field
is.
Yes,
the
mint
green
bluish
area
is
City
of
Evanston
property.
That's
where
Fleetwood
Jordan
is
contained.
A
The
yellowish
area
is
District
65
property,
which
contains
Foster
field
and
then
kind
of
it's
a
Southwest
or
Southeast
corner
of
the
site,
which
is
the
bottom
left
corner.
There
are
some
basketball
courts
and
Tennis
Courts,
which
are
owned
by
the
City
of
Evanston,
but
are
on
District
65
property.
So
it's
fairly
murky
how
this
all
plays
out
next.
B
A
Have
a
lease
or
an
easements
or
something
writing
that
gives
us
permission
to
we.
We
did.
We
had
a
lease
and
then
we
had
to
put
we
had
to
notify
the
District
of
any
improvements
and
they
had
to
agree
to
them.
That
was
done,
but
in
all
fairness,
I,
don't
think
they
ever
made
a
commitment
that
they
would
never
take
the
property
back.
A
Yes,
once
they
made
the
decision
to
move
forward
with
building
the
school
I
mean
they
properly
notified
us
that
they
were
no
longer
extending
the
lease
and
I
would
like
to
say.
This
first
option
shows
basically
the
new
District
65
School
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
site
on
Foster
field,
where
it
currently
exists,
which
is
entirely
on
the
School,
District
65
property,
and
it
shows
Fleetwood,
Jordan
and
Family
Focus
pretty
much
as
they
are
now.
A
A
A
Entities
we
have
started
talking
with
Family
Focus,
we
started
conversations
and
that
may
be
a
possibility,
but
Family
Focus
cannot
move
fast
enough
to
guarantee
that
that
parking
will
be
available.
If
District
65
has
to
make
a
decision
today
and
submit
to
the
land
use
commission
what
they
want
to
build,
they
can't
count
on
that
parking.
D
D
It
in
occupancy
right
now
and
with
the
renovations
and
even
without
them
they
need
to
be
100
occupied
in
order
to
they're
running
at
a
deficit
just
carrying
the
facility.
So,
just
like
any
organization,
that's
planning
for
the
future
they're
not
going
to
be
put
to
give
away
parking
that
they'll
need,
seeing
as
how
they're
only
at
40
percent
opportunity
right.
A
D
A
D
D
A
D
A
Would
need
to
be
approved?
This
might
be
a
good
time
for
me
to
ask
my
question:
is
to
what
extent
does
the
city
have
the
approval
through
the
zoning
process
and
also
through
the
permitting
process,
because
I'm,
not
mistaken
school
districts,
are
not
subject
to
municipal
building
project
the
the
control
the
city
has
and
saying
the
city
has.
It
is
a
little
bit
of
a
misnomer.
The
controls
of
the
land
use
commission
has
is
that
they
will
need
major
zoning
variations
in
order
to
build
the
building
that
they
want
to
build.
A
B
A
A
Permit
tests
only
a
few
storm
water
detention
goes
through
the
city
like
if
they
need
curb
cuts
that
goes
through
the
city,
but
actual
building
permits
do
not
go
through
the
city,
so
it's
different
than
any
other
project
in
the
city,
whether
it's
yeah
that.
D
A
C
D
To
remember
my
point,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
jump
in
now.
I
want
to
be
clear
too,
though,
that
the
student
assignment
committee,
which
I
volunteered
as
a
community
member
that
that
the
working
group
I
set
on
there
recommended
that
the
school
build
the
school
in
the
field
forward
is
that
recommendation
went
to
the
Mississippi
board,
had
nothing
to
do
about
Construction
right.
So
the.
D
A
D
I
think
was
the
recommendation
that
came
out,
which
is
what
we
went
with,
but
that
was
about.
As
far
as
it
went
it
didn't
talk,
I,
don't
even
know.
If
locations
came
up,
it
was
assumed
because
in
2012,
where
folks,
like
myself
and
others
were
kind
of
leading
the
charge
to
get
a
swim
and
do
it
for
this
was
the
obvious
location.
Then
it
was
a
KQ.
High
school
was
much
smaller
like
that
piece.
D
When
Ashland
wasn't
there,
and
so
there
was
space
I
actually
don't
remember
when
they
were
going
to
put
parts
in
that
design.
But
but
my
point
being
is
that
it
was
not
a
construction
process.
We
didn't
talk
about
construction.
We
didn't
talk
about
location,
so
when
you
say
the
fifth
War
went
to
school
yeah
in
concept,
but
there
was
still.
This
was
to
do
right.
I.
A
D
C
D
Revealed
the
first
concept,
which
was
like
an
eight-state
design
with
the
with
the
like
the
turf
field
above
a
parking
lot
that
was
going
to
be
in
the
center
of
the
eight
shape.
That
was
the
first
concept
that
we
saw
and
that
was
revealed
at
the
board
meeting
that
they
approved
the
you
know
that
they
were
going
to
fund
the
school.
A
A
B
B
A
A
D
A
D
Even
without
the
parking
lot
there
and
I
and
I
I
we're
going
to
jump
into
the
discussion,
I
was
going
to
wait
until
after
the
proposed
the
presentation.
I
don't
like
it
called
Green
Space,
it's
a
play
field
and
we
moved
the
Playfield
Green.
Space
is
not
a
play
field.
You
can't
play
soccer
or
football
baseball.
All
the.
B
C
B
D
A
A
B
A
C
A
Us
to
make
the
decisions
we
need
to
make.
Yes,
they
don't
really
discuss
their
funding
with
us.
Much
they've
discussed
their
primary
funding
mechanism
as
lease
certificates,
and
you
can
go
read
articles
about
that
in
Roundtable
and
evidence
now,
but
they
actually
don't
really
talk
about
the
total
cost
of
the
building
and
the
funding
sources
that
they
plan
to
use
other
than
the
lease
certificates
which
will
be
paid
for
by
bussing
and
so
they've
already
solely
certificates.
D
And
again,
I
think
District
65
has
been
very
again
we're
opening
up
for
discussion.
I
have
my
notes
here,
but
I
think
people.
It
would
be
great
if
this
was
all
one
body
right
like
we
were
the
schools
like
Chicago,
we
were
the
school
district
and
we
were
the
city
because
then
a
lot
of
what
you're
saying
could
potentially
happen.
They
have
they
sold
a
lease
certificate
already
their
their
clock
started
several
months
ago.
A
year
ago
it.
D
That,
when
those
those
interest
payments
come
up
that,
if
they
don't
eliminate
the
amount
of
busing
they're
doing,
which
represents
busting
out
of
the
Fifth
Ward,
represents
about
three
to
four
million,
which
they're
using
the
savings
of
that
they're
using
that
to
pay
the
interest,
if
they
don't
stop
the
practice
of
busting
fifth
floor
students
out
of
the
ward
that
they're
not
they're,
gonna,
have
to
find
another
place
to
get
three
or
four
million
dollars
period.
That's
the
reality.
D
D
D
C
A
D
D
A
D
A
A
Get
through
this
okay,
so
this
was
another
option
that
was
developed
that
maintains
the
Green
Space
by
building
this
the
school
district
building
in
a
very
similar
location
to
where
they
originally
proposed
moving
parking
partly
onto
the
Dewey
Avenue
right
away
and
reconstructing
Fleetwood
Jordan.
So
it's
not
in
the
center
of
the
site,
but
is
off
to
along.
B
A
Street
Edge
it
creates
a
green
space
in
the
middle
that
can
be
jointly
shared
by
Family,
Focus,
Fifth,
Ward
school
and
sleep
with
your
days
once
we
start
talking
about
moving
Fleetwood,
there
is
the
cost
of
reconstructing
the
building.
The
other
thing,
the
one
thing
I
will
say
is
to
me.
It
hasn't
really
been
decided
entirely.
What
that
building
looks
like
so
that
these
costs
are
the
order
of
magnitude
costs
they
are
I,
do
not
want
to
represent
like
if
we
do
this
option,
we're
going
to
spend
exactly
32
to
34
million
dollars.
B
A
How
to
maintain
building
I
kind
of
thrown
out
here
again,
you
know
we
don't
have
enough
green
things.
We
can
figure
out
the
brain
state,
so
I
went
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
really
I
understand
the
P.
The
concern
of
the
people
in
this
room,
the
city
council,
is
the
one
that
makes
the
decision
about
the
building.
A
What
we're
actually
doing
I'm
here,
to
provide
some
information
to
discuss
financing
orders
of
magnitude
so
that
the
budget
and
finance
committee
can
discuss
recommendations
to
the
city
council
and
also
potential
avenues
for
financing
things
to
that
end,
I'm
just
trying
to
give
you
a
grounded.
This
is
what's
been
discussed.
D
A
A
Do
in
this
meeting,
so
this
was
one
option
that
was
put
forth
that
creates
a
green
space
and
starts
looking
at
how
to
manage
the
parking
a
little
bit
better
so
that
it's
not
just
taking
up
such
a
big
portion
of
the
site,
it's
actually
partially
on
the
city
right
away
in
this
orientation
next
slide.
A
Is
that
a
new
community
center
or
is
that
the
existence?
This
would
be
reconstructing
the
community
center
and
moving
it
to
the
South?
You
know
the
existing
Community
Center
is
more
of
a
square
shape,
and
it's
north
of
that
location.
So
it
would
overlap
very
closely
to
where
they
existing
school
is
on
the
west
end
of
the
or
where
the
proposed
school
is
on
the
west
end
of
the
proposed
School.
A
But
in
this
case
we
actually
would
be
required
to
acquire
some
private
property
in
addition
to
Gilbert
Park,
and
these
are
really
high
level.
Concepts
I
really
don't
know,
we'd
end
up
with
a
building
exactly
that
shape,
or
anything
else
I
mean.
This
is
just
to
give
people
a
general
idea
of
how
it
could
work
this
option
because
we
have
the
property
acquisition,
is
the
largest
cost
of
the
approximately.
D
D
C
D
A
More
work
relative
to
what
we
really
think
it
is
yeah
and
I
do
think.
We
should
be
stuck
from
heart
in
our
lives,
because
the
school
districts
with
202
and
55
I
can
say
it's
a
real
problem,
separate
history,
and
this
is
particular
when
we're
looking
at
a
common
sort
of
society
of
plant.
They
really
think
we
should
do.
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
Jody
and
I
talked
about
today
against
her
they're
finance
budget
committee
is
that
we
should
be
working
as
all
our
residents
are.
Our
residents
25
versus
cities
and.
B
A
A
A
D
I
appreciate
your
conversations
with
Joey
we
can
have.
We
can
have
additional
conversations,
we've
been
talking
with
it,
with
the
CFO
and
with
the
superintendent.
A
A
D
A
C
D
D
B
A
A
A
There
are
site
improvements
that
need
to
be
made
that
would
be
jointly
shared.
It
has
to
be
determined.
How
would
we
divide
up
the
cost
for
those
improvements?
There
are
things
like
parking
that
would
be
jointly
shared.
We
have
to
determine
cost
shares
for
those
things,
so
we
are
in
no
way
at
this
point
saying
like
they
have
a
box
of
this,
and
we
have
a
box
of
this
and
we
are
paying
for
this
and
they're
paying
to
that
now.
A
The
buildings
I
think
that's
very
clear:
they're
going
to
pay
for
their
building,
we're
going
to
pay
for
our
building
and
they
worst
case
scenario
aren't
going
to
pay
for
their
parking,
the
way
that
they
show
it
in
option
one,
but
there
are
options
for
moving
forward.
However,
any
options
they
talked
about,
putting
playgrounds
on
roofs
and
play
areas
on
top
of
parking
decks
in
the
past
they've
been
concerned
about
the
cost
of
those.
D
C
B
D
D
So
my
point
is
that
if
we
budgeted
already
to
20
familiar
granted,
it
was
for
a
tip
that
is
still
is
still
not
mature,
but
if
we
budgeted
that
and
and
I
believe
their
support
on
the
council
to
do
to
do
that
at
some
point
whether
it
was
a
day
or
five
years
from
now,
once
the
tip
for
sure.
Why
would
we?
Why
would
we
invest
into
a
building
that
if
it
were
anywhere
else-
and
it
didn't
have
this
historical
significance
attached
to
it-
wouldn't
be
approved
on
this
site?
D
It's
terrible
planning
to
squeeze
all
of
this
stuff
into
so
into
this
development
site
and
that's
Laura.
What
I
want
you
to
talk
about,
because
that's
what
brought
me
back
into
this
discussion
early
on
staff
was
saying
this
would
not
be
otherwise
approved.
As
it's
being
presented,
it's
terrible
planning
it's
going
to
cut
down
mature
trees.
It's
going
to
take
away
Green
Space,
it's
going
to
create
water
retention
issues
like
it's,
not
a
good
plan.
A
A
Centers,
so
schools
are
not
they're
trying
to
move
into
that
concept
of
school
so
that
they
are
actually
all
the
community
centers.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
that
maybe
what
maybe
we
should
explore
the
idea
of
telling
them
Fleetwood
and
flooding
and
building
a
school
Community
Center
there
yeah
like.
C
B
A
Community
Educational
Center
in
the
community
center,
the
schools
are
becoming
that
so
there's
more
and
more
Community
involvement.
It's
a
healthier
educational
setting
as
a
healthier.
So
in
that
case,
like
I
said
potentially
without
or
we
work
together
to
recreate
the
whole
premature
day
into
a
school
class
and.
B
A
D
A
A
So
all
I'm
gonna
say
is:
we
are
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
separate
from
the
District
65
schedule
that
they
have
set
up,
not
us,
and
look
at
how
to
get
more
information
out
of
the
community
to
really
try
to
look
at
what
the
community
needs
and
we
do
plan
to
continue
working
with
them
as
we
go
forward.
We
are
starting
a
process
to
negotiate
the
next
phase
of
mou
with
them
and
we
will
be
working
on
that
over
the
next
few
weeks.
D
And
also
want
to
establish
what
School
District
again
they
were,
they
were
trying
to,
even
though
it's
put
a
lot
of
pressure
on
us
in
selling
the
lead
certificates
before
they,
you
know
started
the
city
process
I
understand,
because
we
all
understand
that
they
were
trying
to
secure
the
best
terms
they
could
and
what
we
always
talk
about,
which
is
a
really
difficult
environment,
so
they
want
to
get
in
there.
You
know
to
get
good
terms.
D
A
B
A
A
D
Yeah,
no,
no
well
again.
So
what
brought
me
into
this
is
that
a
city
coming
to
me
saying
this
is
bad
planning.
You
would
not
approve
this
anywhere
else
in
the
city,
but
for
the
historical
certificate.
I
will
fight
tooth
and
nail
to
make
sure
we
do
not
have
bad
planning
and
core
planning
in
the
Fifth
Ward
period.
Right
and
I
will
organize
my
butt
off
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
happen,
because
that's
what
I
was
told
by
staff.
D
A
A
D
I
agree,
I
mean
this
is
a
very
difficult
situation.
It's
why
I
am
probably
frustrated
every
meeting
you
see
me
at
because
it's
difficult
because
I
have
to
protect
the
interest
of
the
field
forward.
I
have
to
you
know
I'm
on
the
financial
budget
committee,
so
obviously
I
realized
that
it
would
be
great
if
the
tip
was
mature
than
it
is
today
right,
there's
just
realities
that
were
fake,
but
also
what
we
do
know
in
this
survey
is
that
there
is
not
enough
strong
support
to
eliminate
the
play
field.
D
There's
some
there's
some
disagreement
on
what
it,
what
else
it
says,
but
it
definitely
does
not
show
that
there
are
strong
support
to
eliminate
the
Playfield.
I
would
argue
it's
the
opposite,
and
so
it's
like
we're
stuck.
You
know,
so
you
know
I
think
from
talking
to
Laura
we're
in
a
place
where
we
can
negotiate
the
next
mou
that
expires
I,
think
on
the
15th,
with
the
district
I
think
maybe
bringing
I
think
where
the
school
board
could
make.
The
most
difference
is,
is
on
timeline
to
be
frankful.
D
You
know
I.
D
Can
do
about
it,
they
might
agree
with
Dr
Horton
because
again
I
understand
and
not
just
DR
Horton,
but
but
kind
of
the
school
district
as
a
full
team.
I
understand
why
they
sold
the
lead
certificate
when
they
did
I
understand
why
they're
trying
to
keep
with
this
timeline
as
best
they
can
understand
it,
but
if
any
where
they
can
help
it
probably.
A
Is
encourage
we
spent
around
100
125
000.?
Yes,.
B
D
A
A
And
as
we
move
forward
with
whatever,
if
unless
the
city
is
going
to
sit
back
and
just
let
stuff
happen,
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
discussions
about
fight
improvements
and
cost
shares,
and
that
I
think
is
something
that
is
not
just
done
in
a
you
know
in
silence.
That
is
something
that
I
at
least
would
love
to
have
more
guidance
on
and
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
discuss
like
like
budget
options
and
Etc.
D
Other
thing
I
just
want
to
say,
is
that
you
also
hear
from
committee
members
who
have
a
fear
that
that
they'll
end
up
as
a
floor
on
family
focused,
Fleetwood
or
a
floor
on
a
school
there's
I'm,
trying
to
see
the
best
way
to
explain
this
there's
you
know
like
sometimes
schools,
although
they're
Public,
Schools
they're
locked
a
lot
right
like
they're,
not
like
there's,
not
this
open
door
policy.
In
the
same
way,
you
see
a
rec
centers.
A
D
C
B
D
D
With
this,
which
we
really
haven't
to
follow
up
on
some
conversations,
I
have
with
Clayton.
B
B
A
The
original
budget
that
would
have
made
the
whole
process
go
much
better
and
as
we
go
into
next
year's
budget
process,
if
we
do
the
work
now,
we
could
have
these
items
resolved
or
at
least
not
open
to
the
level
of
debate.
That
happened
so
they're
present
in
the
original
budget
and
the
budget
is
still
truly
on
issues.
Trade-Offs,
so
I
think
those
areas
and
see
what
other
people
think
are.
What
are
the
capital
planning
priorities
which
go
directly
to
what
we're
talking
about.
B
A
Would
be
you
know
what
the
pension
contribution
is
going
to
be
based
on
the
most
updated
information?
A
A
You
know
right,
I,
agree
and
I
hope
I
mean
you
know
that
we
can
begin
giving
directions
as
early
as
May,
but
I
think
you
and
I
talked
about,
for
example,
for
the
pension,
which
was
a
big
debate
and
a
hugely
important
topic,
given
that
it's
cause
it's
causing
a
lot
of
financial
strain
on
a
residence
we
talked
about
next
meeting
discussing
I
would
like
to
propose
that
we
fund,
as
we.
D
A
90
so
I
think
we
have
to
give
an
explicit
directions.
So
there's
no
debate
on
a
few
big
items
like
this,
and
this
is
an
application.
This
isn't
like.
Oh,
should
we
do
this
or
not.
We
have
to
do
this,
so
I
would
like
to
next
time,
discuss
and
and
vote
and
take
action
on
living
for
90
percent
of
our
obligations
and
then
using
the
full
pprt,
so
that
staff
understands
that
the
full
pprt
will
go
to
bridge
that
if.
A
Would
come
from
reserves?
I
suspect
that
that'll
pretty
much
seal
the
deal
100.
So
I
would
like
to
have
a
consider
this
to
give
staff
that
direction
so
that
we.
D
A
C
B
A
Future
and
so
we.
B
Can
we
can
expand
from
this,
but
they
seem
to
be
the
major
things
you
know
working
with
Laura
earlier.
A
B
A
D
A
Actual
I,
don't
know,
let's
say
I'm
like:
why
are
we
under
budgeting,
for
example,
PPR
teams?
One
of
those
funds
that
I
came
across
were
like
specifically
under
budget.
There
was
really
kind
of
nonsensical.
The
amount
that
was
budget
was
like
was
600
000,
yet
the
IMF
that
was
gonna.
You
know
more
than
triple
over
the
years
so,
but,
but
can
you
just?
Maybe
you
can
answer
me
so
when
I
was
like
making
so
I
just
want
to
have
this
not
happen?
Next
I
was
making
inquiries
okay.
How
much
should
we
budget?
B
A
Oh
yeah,
we
have
I
think
it
was
was
3.8
million
and
okay,
so
we
are
way
over.
But
what
I
looked
at
when
I
pulled
up
the
state,
the
actual
and
I
know
we
get
automatic.
What
do
you
call
PFT?
It's
deposited
we
actually
in
in
September
we
had
they
had
deposited
4.4
million
and
I'm
looking
at
this
in
terms
of
a
cruel
method,
and
so
by
year
end
by
the
time
we
were
meeting
on
December
12th,
we
actually
have
5.5
Millions,
but
you
all
were
telling
us
3.8
million.
B
B
So
we
I
dug
into
this
over
the
last
week
to
better
understand
it,
because
cprt
is
one
thing
that
is
really
really
different,
so
sales
taxes,
you
get
three
months
after
the
actual
data,
so
we
December
descended.
We
won't
get
our
December
holiday
sales
taxes
until
April
I
know
I'm,
just
saying
how
different
it
can
be.
So
in
terms
of
pprt
the
deposits
that
we
got
in
the
end
of
December
represented
our
payment
for
October
and.
A
Before
December
we
got
it
on
Monday
July
forecast.
The
case
number
seems
to
be
more
transparent.
A
A
A
As
what
it
was
so
happy
to
work
across
all
of
these,
with
with
you
guys
and.
B
Then
Claire
we
talked
about
we're,
trying
to
get
we're
trying
to
lock
in
what
are
these
100
payments
right
or
the
pensions
we'll
get
Foster
and
Foster
tell
us
what
that
is,
and.
B
A
Ready
to
talk
about
it
and
it's
actually,
these
nominate
a
person
that
is
sort
of
the
companion
across
those
five
board
strings.
Sometimes
so,
with
that
I
guess
we.