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B
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order,
we
have
a
quorum
so
calling
our
december
second
meeting
to
order.
C
A
Thank
you,
rick.
D
A
Nikita
not
present
doug.
E
A
And
clearance
also
not
present,
so
with
that
being
said,
we
do
have
officially
a
quorum
to
start
the
meeting.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
getting
started
on
time.
B
So
we
have
approval
of
our
meeting.
Do
we
have
any
members
of
the
public
tonight?
Kimberly
looks
like
no,
no
okay,
so
we
can
skip
by
public
commentary
our
new
business.
We
can
jump
right
into
new
business.
We
we
don't
have
anything
else
right,
all
right,
jumping
right
into
new
business.
We
are
first
up.
We've
got
to
approve
our
2021
meeting
schedule.
C
F
A
F
D
Bad
that
that
yes,
was
so
aggressive.
I
thought
you're
like
asking
me
a
question.
A
That's:
okay,
we're
not
the
aggressive
part
yet
of
the
meeting.
It
will
be
coming
soon
with
these
I'm
just
kidding
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
will
get
this
posted
and
I
will
send
out.
Calendar
invites
for
2021
and,
as
I
was
saying
earlier,
I
will
not
be
at
the
next
meeting
in
january.
I'm
actually
going
to
take
three
weeks
off
from
work
which
I've
never
done
in
my
entire
career.
A
So
covert
has
done
that
to
me,
but
anyway,
with
that
said,
my
colleague,
paulina
martinez,
will
be
stepping
in
in
my
role,
but
aaron
will
be
president
at
the
meeting.
So
I
will
keep
her
up
to
speed
and
making
sure
that
you
guys
have
a
seamless
meeting
in
january,
all
right
and
I'll
come
back
in
february.
Well,.
A
G
G
The
incident
itself
the
complainant
was
in
the
800
block
of
main
street.
He
was
urinating
in
the
alley.
When
another
subject
came
up
and
made
some
comments
to
him
of
sexual
nature,
they
got
an
altercation
which
almost
became
physical
when
he
grabbed
a
tire
at
the
complaint
and
grabbed
a
tire
iron
and
then
police
showed
up
at
the
scene.
G
The
complainant
was
agitated,
he
felt
like
he
was
well,
he
was
uncooperative
initially
and
he
felt
like
he
was
accused
of
doing
something
wrong.
So
a
review
was
done
of
it.
The
patrol
sergeant
who
reviewed
it
unfounded
rule,
2
and
20
for
both
officers.
B
B
F
B
Okay,
aaron,
you
want
to
lead
us
into
di
2012.
G
Sure
so
di
2012
occurred
in
august
of
this
year,
patrol
officer
responded
to
a
pharmacy.
The
store
manager
said
there
was
somebody
down
there
who
was.
G
G
The
incident
per
the
report
was
basically
that
the
complainant
was
down
there.
He
was
yelling
profane
statements.
The
store
manager
did
refuse
him
service
asked
him
to
leave.
There
was
some
issues
with
the
names
he
provided
for
his
prescription
versus
his
real
name
and
the
complainant
called
9-1-1,
as
did
the
store
manager
when
the
complainant
called
9-1-1.
He
requested
to
speak
with
the
chief
of
police.
He
would
not
give
his
information
and
he
did
not
want
to
wait
around
for
a
supervisor.
G
So
the
patrol
sergeant
reviewed
the
case.
I
exonerated
the
officer
and
the
second
complaint
of
well.
He
exonerated
him
on
the
unlawful
detention.
The
subject
felt
that
he
was
detained
against
his
will.
B
Hey,
do
we
have
any
discussion
on
di
2012?
I
know
we
had
a
request
from
someone
kimberly
for
or
for
the
video
on
this.
B
I
personally
don't
have
any
need,
but
I
think
we
should
go
into
executive
session
if
even
one
person
does,
since
the
work
is
done.
B
All
right,
let's
move
to
send
di
2012
to
dhs.
G
B
There
too
much
talk
in
the
department
of
homeland
security.
Sorry,
all
right,
let's
one!
Second,
okay!
Thank
you.
B
G
Sure
so
di
2014
citizen
called
the
service
desk
who's.
The
one
of
the
officers
at
the
front
desk
who
takes
non-emergency
phone
calls.
The
person
was
calling
essentially
for
covid
questions.
It
was
after
hours
and
3-1-1
was
closed.
So
at
that
point
all
the
telephone
calls
are
routed
to
our
our
civilian
service
desk.
The
civilian
service
desk
officer
stated
that
she
was
unable
to
provide
the
caller
with
any
information.
The
caller
was
just
seeking
guidance
from
the
health
department.
G
The
caller
felt
that
the
service
desk
officer
was
not
helpful.
There
was
no
customer
service
thought
that
she
was
mocked
and
demeaned
during
the
phone
conversation,
though,
the
service
desk
manager
ended
up
reviewing
this
and
oh
I'm
sorry,
it
was
rule
2,
4
and
20
is
what
the
investigating
ops
sergeant
thought
fit.
This
and
the
service
desk
manager
reviewed
this,
and
she
thought
that
rules
two
and
four
were
not
sustained,
but
rule
20
should
be
sustained
and
rule.
G
20
is
a
failure
to
provide
prompt,
correct
and
or
courteous
service,
and
she
recommended
a
shift
level
counseling
for
this,
and
since
the
service
manager,
service
desk
manager
reports
directly
to
the
deputy
chief,
it
was
a
deputy
chief
who
then
reviewed
this
after
that,
the
deputy
chief
did
concur
with
that.
So
rules,
two
and
four
were
unfounded,
but
rule
20
was
sustained
in
a
shift
level.
Counseling
was
determined.
C
B
I
I
agree
with
rick.
I
also
had
some
concern
about
whether
or
not
rule
four
was
violated,
so
I
had
requested
the
audio,
which
I
realized
was
uploaded
and
I
just
missed
did:
did
anyone
catch
anyone
else
catch
that
audio
file?
Is
it?
Is
that
long
aaron?
Can
we
listen
to
that.
B
And
if
it's
okay
with
everybody,
I'd
like
to
move
to
convene
into
a
short
executive
concession
pursuant
to
five
illinois
compiled
statutes,
do
I
need
to
I
need
that
citizen
citizen
review
commission
convene
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
personnel.
D
A
Okay,
so
I
do
recognize.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
who's
second,
that
by
the
way.
A
Perfect,
I
do
see
that
we
have
some
a
person
on
the
call
that
is
a
a
nun
member.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do?
I
am
going
to
pause
this
video
and
then
take
us
into
an
exec
session
into
another
room
to
view
the
video
where
aaron,
if
you
can
go
ahead
or
glue,
if
you
can
go
ahead
and
record
that
session.
A
For
me
that
way,
we
can
have
that
that
recording
and
then
also
we'll
be
back
in
this
room
once
we're
done
convening
and
for
the
for
the
sake
of
the
of
the
individual
who
just
joined,
we
go
into
exact
section,
to
review
the
video
and
to
ask
questions
regarding
to
the
video
any
deliberation
or
any
action
taken
doesn't
come
back
out
into
the
meeting
of
the
public
meeting,
so
there
will
be
no
decisions
made
within
that
all
right
and
there
you
go
okay.
A
C
B
Yes,
yeah?
Okay,
thank
you,
everyone
for
going
into
executive
session
for
the
recording
for
di
2014.
After
listening
to
that
311
call.
Do
we
have
any
further
discussion.
C
B
Yes,
it
gives
us
some
insight
into
the
two
sides
of
the
coin.
I
suppose
I
would
like
to
move
that
we
move
di
2014
to
hsc.
G
Sure
so
in
august
the
complainant
had
called
about
an
incident
that
occurred
in
november
of
2019.
So
I'm
sorry
in
I
take
that
back.
The
incident
occurred
in
december
of
2018..
G
The
complainant
said
that
she
was
part
of
a
domestic
disturbance
and
the
officer
wrote
in
the
report
that
she
was
intoxicated
when
she
says.
In
fact
she
was
not.
The
ops
investigator
felt
that
rule
1,
2
and
20
applied
to
this.
G
The
complainant
basically
said
that
she
chose
not
to
drive
home
that
night
because
her
vehicle
was
inoperable
not
because
she
was
intoxicated.
The
officer
did
document
in
his
report
that
the
complainant
did
admit
to
drinking
that
night
and
he
did
smell
the
odor
of
alcohol,
so
she
was
upset
that
she
was
accused
of
being
intoxicated.
G
She
was
asked
by
the
ops
supervisor
why
she
waited
so
long.
She
said
she
did
call
in
november
of
2019
and
spoke
with
somebody
in
the
office
of
professional
standards.
However,
there
was
no
documentation
of
that
conversation.
I
she
claimed
that
she
was
sick
and
then
once
the
coveted
19
pandemic
happened,
it
further
delayed
her
complaint.
G
G
The
officer,
as
did
the
patrol
I'm
sorry,
the
patrol
commander,
did
not
sustain
it,
so
it
was
not
sustained
and
the
deputy
chief
also
gave
it
a
finding
of
not
sustained,
so
they
changed
their
finding
from
exonerated
to
not
sustained.
B
My
only
question-
or
my
only
note,
I
said
not
really
even
a
question-
I
guess
for
aaron
the
complainant
did
not
give
the
audio
tape
to
the
epd
correct
she
she
claimed
to
have
an
audio
tape.
That
would
be
the
only
item
that
I
can
see
that
would
sub.
That
would
be
of
any
evidentiary
value
to
substantiate
her
claim,
but
I
don't
see
anywhere
where
she
actually
handed
that
over
to
you.
G
And
it
was
multiple
occasions
we've
we
tried
to
get
a
recording
of
that
that
video,
so
we
could
substantiate
her
claim,
but
she
refused
to
provide
it
to
us.
B
Okay,
I'd
like
to
move
di
2015
to
hsc.
B
G
G
So
the
incident
was
the
complainant
called
and
was
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
the
animal
warden
animal
warden
wasn't
available
and
could
only
provide
the
animal
wardens.
Voicemail
the
complainant
became
frustrated
and
the
tone
kind
of
escalated.
G
G
G
G
Going
forward,
so
it's
something
once
it
goes
through
you
guys
back
to
the
chief
of
police,
the
chief
of
police,
typically
on
any
recommendation
like
that,
will
send
the
employee
to
a
class
if
it
is
recommended
and
again.
I
know
we
talked
about
this
at
one
of
the
prior
cases.
The
service
desk
manager
reports
directly
to
the
deputy
chief,
so
the
deputy
chief
did
concur
that
rule
20
was
violated
and
the
written
reprimand
and
customer
service
training
should
take
place.
B
The
written
reprimand
was
appropriate,
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
di
2018
to.
A
B
Okay
welcome
nika,
and
that
was
our
last
case.
Oh
my
gosh.
A
B
A
Yeah,
so
this
is
the
summary
report.
So
per
our
last
meeting
we
had
discussed
updating
the
language
in
the
report
that
language
has
been
updated
and
so
those
cases
we
brought
back
for
your
review,
along
with
the
cases
that
we
approved
last
meeting.
B
Okay,
so
thank
you,
nika
for
working
on
that
with
kimberly,
and
I
moved
that
we
approved
the
cprc
report
to
human
services
committee.
B
Is
that
all
I
have
to
do
set
it
yeah,
so
we
just
need
a
second
okay,
so
I
need
a
second
a
second
thank
you.
Nika.
B
I
think
kimberly
anything
else
or
we
did.
We
just
do
that
in
a
half
an
hour.
A
We've
done
it
on
power,
I
mean,
I
would
say
I
think
it
does
help
giving
you
guys
the
fouls
ahead
of
time
to
review.
So
I
think
that
does
allow
for
this
to
be
expedited
in
a
way
that
you
can
have
conversations
around
things
that
you
need
to
discuss
with.
That
being
said,.
C
G
Well,
a
lot
of
the
cases.
A
lot
of
the
complaints
that
come
in
are
what
you're
I
mean
everything
so
we're
basically
going
through
everything.
We're
almost
done
so
after
this
next
meeting
we'll
be
caught
up
with
all
the
cases.
So
the
next
meeting
I
we're
going
to
have
that
cr.
If
you
remember
from
that
traffic,
stop
that
got
sent
back
for
review.
G
I
will
get
out
that
case
back
to
you
guys
with
the
follow-up
review
of
that.
We
also
have,
let's
see
here:
there's
gonna
be
four
more
cases
as
well,
so
and
those
they're
gonna
be
a
little
more
varied
I'd.
Imagine
at
least
one
of
them.
If
not
a
couple
of
them.
G
You
might
want
to
see
the
video
on
just
just
from
what
I
know
about
the
cases
once
you
read
it
so
as
soon
as
I
get
those
done,
but
yeah
a
lot
of
the
complaints
that
we
get
citizen
complaints
are
how
the
officer
spoke
to
me.
Just
the
disrespect
that
the
officer
showed
to
me.
You
know
there's
one
coming
up
next
next
month,
which
will
be
a
racially
or
based
harassment.
G
It
was
the
complainant
felt
that
she
was
racially
profiled,
so
you'll
see
that
so
so
the
next
four
are
a
little
more
varied
all
right.
C
G
Yes,
so
these
these
other
cases
that
we've
caught
up
on
we're
pretty
much
at
where
we
would
be
like
one
of
the
cases
we
just
got
back
today.
That's
gonna
go
for
next
month,
even
though
the
case
is
from
it
looks
like
it's
august,
I'm
just
looking
at
the
spreadsheet.
It's
august
we're
just
getting
it
back,
because
it
goes
to
different
supervisors
and
it
goes
through
the
review
process
and
if
a
supervisor
has
a
question
or
needs
to
review
something
a
little
more
in-depth,
they
will
take
that
time
to
do
it.
G
G
And
I
mean
you'll
see
with
some
of
the
cases,
and
you
saw
it
with
the
one
that
you're
going
to
be
reviewing
where
there's
actually,
where
we're
doing
the
the
taping
and
we're
doing
the
interviews
and
you
guys
are
getting
the
transcripts.
You
know
the
officer
has
rights
that
we
have
to
abide
by,
so
we
have
to
serve
them
with
notice.
They
have
to
have
time
to
get
an
attorney
to
come
to
the
interview.
So
you
know
all
that
stuff
just
adds
weeks
into
our
time
frame
where
you
know.
C
G
Sad,
I
don't
know
because
we
would
not
be
investigating
that
if
there
was
a
officer
involved,
shooting
that
goes
to
an
outside
agency
and.
E
E
If
I
could
jump
in
a
little
bit
here,
commander
glue
I've,
I've
done
some
officer-involved
deaths,
not
to
the
magnitude
of
ferguson
or
kenosha,
but
I
have
been
involved
in
several
officer-involved
death
investigations
for
jurisdictions
outside
of
evanston
and
if
we.
E
An
incident
like
that,
if
there
was
involvement
by
this
by
this
committee,
it
would
likely
be,
could
be
quantified
in
months
down
the
road.
What
typically
happens
in
these
situations,
where
there
is
a
officer-involved
death
a
lot
of
times?
That
is
a
shooting.
It
is
investigated
by
the
state
police
integrity
unit
and
we'll
say
this:
they
have
come
a
long
way
in
their
service
to
the
departments
that
their
investor
investigating
the
demand
for
transparency
and
speed
has
made
them
more
efficient,
but
it
still
takes
quite
a
while.
B
If
I
can,
if
I
can
jump
in
rick
and
help
answer
that
a
little
bit
in
addition
to
commander
glue
and
sergeant
wernick,
if
it's,
if
it's
a
civil
rights
violation,
also
if
isp,
if
it's
a
civil
rights
violation
and
what
we
call
color
of
law,
so
it's
a
federal
violation.
B
The
fbi
will
also
jump
in
and
get
involved.
Then
you're
talking
about
years,
but
our
commission,
the
only
way
we
would
get
involved
in
an
officer-involved
shooting
or
something
to
the
magnitude.
Even
if
there's
no
death,
if
there's
just
you
know
a
violent
incident
involving
an
officer
and
a
citizen,
the
citizen
still
has
to
make
a
complaint.
So
I
know
that
we
had.
B
We
had
the
citizens
network
on
here
earlier,
but
the
you
know
the
bottom
line
is:
if
the
citizens
have
to
make
a
complaint,
so
there
could
be
things
happening
in
evanston,
but
if
no
one
makes
a
complaint
against
the
officer,
then
there's
nothing
that
this
commission
has
any
input
on.
But
if
it,
if
it
rises
to
a
level
of
something
like
commander,
blue
just
talked
about
an
officer-involved
shooting
or
a
civil
rights
violation
involving
an
officer.
B
G
G
And
there's-
and
just
so
you
know
too,
there's
a
lot
of
internal
stuff.
That
happens
that
you
know
we
we
end
up
finding
fault
in
our
officers
or
we
we
see
something
and
we
write
them
up
or
one
of
their
supervisors
writes
them
up
and
it
ends
up.
They
get
disciplined
internally
and
that's
that
doesn't
go
to
to
you
guys,
because
that's
an
internal
complaint,
it
wasn't
citizen-based
so.
A
Commander
glue
can
you
speak
to,
though
there
are
instances
where
chief
could
push
for
a
citizen
complaint,
even
if
the
the
citizen
doesn't
file
the
affidavit,
depending
on
the
the
occasion.
E
Yeah,
I
mean
it's
my
understanding
that,
like
I
said
anything
that
comes
with
a
di
or
htr
that's
initiated
by
a
complainant,
even
if
it
isn't
followed
through
that
would
be
the
chief
could
come
forward
and
say
we
still
want
this.
We
want
this
to
review
as
long
as
it
falls
under
the
ordinance.
E
E
E
You
know
with
what
we
could
do
within
our
policy
in
the
law
and
what's
allowed
going
back
to
concerns
about
process
and
how
efficient
they
are.
The
one
thing
I
will
touch
on
there
is
aaron,
and
I
have
been
discussions
for
2021
to
make
things
as
as
quick
as
as
we
can
now.
Our
efforts
might
shave
a
couple
weeks
off
the
process,
but
it
is
on
our
radar
to
get
the
make
the
process
as
efficient
as
possible.
E
So
things
are
coming
to
you
as
timely
as
they
can
and
also
understanding
that
your
concerns
about,
if
there's
a
case,
that's
coming
through
with
a
certain
amount
of
complexity,
we
will
keep
our
eyes
open
for
those
instances
and
make
you
aware
of
them
when
we
can
so
you
can
be
prepared.
Does
that
help
kimberly.
F
A
I
appreciate
your
questions
rick
and
I
think
other
members
of
the
committee,
if
you
have
questions
outside
of
the
meeting,
always
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
myself
or
to
commander
glue
or
to
sergeant,
because
I
warn
it
because
we
are
here
to
help
and
make
sure
you
all
are
successful
as
well.
So
don't
feel
the
need
to
you
know,
don't
feel
the
need
that
you
have
to
wait
to
a
meeting
or
if
you
know
you
have
a
question
that
you
want
to
bring
in
from
the
entire
group.
That's
great.
A
We
want
to
have
these
dialogues,
but
just
know
that
we're
always
available
for
you
all,
and
even
if
you're
reviewing
a
case
and
you
kind
of
need
some
more
guidance
on
on
the
review.
You
know
I
know
aaron
has
always
said
he's
available
to
to
assist
you
all
in
that
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
we
want
you
all
to
be
successful
and
if
there's
ways
we
can,
you
know
be
better
at
it.
E
Yeah-
and
I
think
some
of
this
is
process
and
any
time
that
we
can
make
ourselves
available
just
to
go
through
the.
Unfortunately,
the
mundane
process
of
how
these
things
travel
through
when
they
track
would
go
a
long
way
potentially
explaining
why
they
take
a
while
to
go
through
the
process.
And
you
know
we
would.
E
Willing
to
make
ourselves
available
to
bring
over
to
speed
up
just
kind
of
like
the
mundane
day
in
and
day
out,
investigation
review
of
these
complaints
and
why
it
takes
the
time
that
it
does.
A
A
A
As
you
know,
we
see
we
have
time
to
look
at
that
and
if
you
feel
that
more
cases
should
be
coming
through
that
aren't
being
found,
how
can
we
make
residents
feel
comfortable
in
following
those
complaints
and
making
sure
that
they
feel,
like
they're
being
heard
versus
people
just
complaining
to
each
other,
or
you
know
on
social
media,
but
there's
never
any
official
complaint,
so
we
can't
act
on
it.
You
know,
so
that's
something
that
we
can
discuss
at
a
later
date.
A
A
F
A
A
I've
mentioned
that,
and
once
we
get
to
all
these
cases,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
fair
to
try
to
have
that
conversation
when
we
are
trying
to
get
through
six
cases.
But
for
sure
we
will
have
time
trust
me.
There
will
be
meetings
where
there
will
not
be
cases.
C
Well,
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
if
that's
so
kimberly
and.
C
C
E
E
We
just
got
our
pamphlets
and
stuff
in
spanish,
so
we'll
make
a
note
of
something
else
going
into
2021
as
far
as
what
we
can
do
and
some
things
that
we
can
review
that
are
going
to
make
people
more
comfortable
if
they
feel
the
need
to
complain,
they
don't
feel
comfortable
and
also
overcoming
english
as
a
second
language
in
the
complaint
process,
or
not
speaking,
english
at
all,.
D
Good,
just
real
quick,
I
appreciate
what
rick
is
is
doing
because
I
feel
like
I
guess
I
don't
feel
this
way
necessarily.
But
when
I
was
presented
this,
it
was
a
little
bit
different
than
what
than
we
were
actually
doing
and
me
and
the
mayor
have
talked
about
it,
and
I
just
pretty
much
echo
everything.
Rick
said
in
the
sense
that,
like
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what
we
are
because
I
do
care
about
the
citizens
here.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
productive
as.
B
Possible
all
right,
I
I
agree
with
both
jamal
and
rick.
You
know
I'd
like
to
see
us
making
making
being
the
change
in
evanston
and
helping
the
department
be
the
best
it
can
be
and
protecting
our
citizens.
So
maybe
that's
something
that
hopefully
we
can
talk
about
aaron.
How
many
cases
do
we
have
this
month
coming
to
us.
G
But
you're
gonna
have
four
cases
and
the
one
re-review
of
that
cr
so
it'll
be
five
total,
but
I
think
the
re-review
is
the
just
a
few
pages.
The
new
memo
so
and,
like
I
said
some
of
the
I
think
one
or
two
of
the
cases
is
going
to
be
a
little
more
in-depth
for
you
than
you've
been
seeing.
B
So
kimberly,
if
it's
possible,
I
don't
know
how
it
really
works
with
the
agenda,
but
if
it's
possible
that
we
could
put
it
on
put
this
rick's
suggestion
on
to
have
a
discussion
about
how
we
can
better
involve
the
citizens
better,
inform
the
citizens
of
this
process
on
our
january
6th
agenda,
knowing
that
we
may
not
get
to
it
from
a
time
basis.
But
if
we,
if
we,
you
know,
based
on
how
fast
we
were
tonight,
it
would
have
been
also
nice
to
to
use
this
extra
time.
B
B
C
F
C
B
All
right
and
move
for
adjournments
and
next
meeting
is
set
for
january
6,
2021.