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From YouTube: CARP Implementation Task Force 09/29/2021
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CARP Implementation Task Force 09/29/2021
A
A
B
A
A
Joel
and
thank
you
wendy
okay,
so
I
think
you
saw,
I
think
everybody
saw.
Hopefully
everybody
saw
my
my
urgent
appeal
for
you
know
pulling
together
the
some
information
for
the
upcoming
meeting
on
monday
to
talk
about
carp,
implementation
and
ej
implementation,
but
before
I
do
that,
I
need
to
go
back
to
assignment
of
note
takers.
Since
I
always
appreciate
support
in
that
area.
Would
someone
be
willing
to
take
notes
this
afternoon.
C
A
Yes,
all
right,
thank
you,
lauren!
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
Okay,
then
I
want
to
move
along
to
public
comment.
I
don't
see
any
members
of
the
public
here.
Is
there
anyone
that
I'm
not
seeing
that
is,
would
like
to
make
themselves
known?
I
think
I'm
viewing
everybody
okay
moving
right
along
to
business,
so
we
have
this
previous
discussion
about
the
really
very
timely
request
for
the
city
to
set
aside
funds
to
develop
a
carp
implementation
strategy.
A
As
we
all
know,
since
we
have
been
meeting
as
a
cit
now
for
almost
two
years,
the
primary
purpose
was
for
this
group
on
the
subcommittee
of
the
environment
board
to
track
implementation
of
carp
and
that
you
know
in
involved.
You
know
quite
a
bit
of
effort
to
try
to
figure
out
what
that
meant.
Not
every
chapter
focus
area
in
the
car
is
very
clear
in
terms
of
its
you
know,
goals
and
milestones
and
metrics
to
measure
progress.
A
So
we've
been,
you
know,
working
on,
you
know
creating
a
kind
of
a
road
map
that
would
help
us
determine
you
know
where
how
we
can
meet
our
goals
and
what
we're
going
to
use
to
measure
it
and,
and
so
in
the
meantime,
realizing
that
we're
you
know
far
from
being
able
to
really
put
together
a
comprehensive
implementation
plan
or
or
action
plan,
as
other
cities
have
done.
We
would
really
like
to
see
the
city
step
up
and
fund.
A
That
will
include
a
staff
recommendation
for
one
million
dollars
to
support
staffing
and
programming
for
the
sustainability
efforts,
including
carp
and
environmental
justice,
but
that's
kind
of
the
bucket.
It's
described
as
a
you
know,
kind
of
a
general
category,
and
it
doesn't
really
enumerate
specifically
what
that
means,
and
I
I
think
it's
a.
I
would
like
to
propose
to
this
group
that
we
make
that
much
more
explicit
in
in
in
terms
of
what
we
think
is
necessary
for
carp
implementation,
starting
with
a
carp
implementation
plan
or
action
plan.
A
A
A
C
B
Jerry
I've
been
making
an
initial
attempt.
You
know
not
knowing
this
this
time
frame,
that's
it
for
city
council
to
consider,
but
I've
got
kind
of
a
little
preliminary
list
of
some
specifics.
If,
if,
if
you
want
me
to
share
my
screen
and
you
guys
can
see,
what's
I
have
I've
compiled
a
couple
of
suggestions
from
people
and
added
a
few
of
my
own
if
you.
D
D
Does
that
preclude
spending
other
money
that
we
talk
about
in
other
ways?
You
know
that
actually
supports
climate
action,
like
I
think,
that's
what
you're
about
to
lay
out
here
and
so
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
about
strategy.
You
know,
are
we
going
to
say?
Actually
you
should
increase
it
to
5
million,
because
there's
a
lot
we
need
to
do
or
we
think
you
need
to
do
the
one
and
a
half
to
two
million
for
plant.
Basically,
you
know
the
narrower
range
of
things
and
also
include
money
from
the
remaining
40.
C
So
my
how
I
was
coming
at
it
was
more
money
over
many
categories
for
many
more
of
the
infrastructure
related
pieces.
I
think
in
particular,
but
not
to
limit
ourselves
to
the
one
to
two
million,
but
have
that
be
more
of
a
specific
ask
for
advancing
implementation
in
general,
but
I
do
think
we
should
shoot
for
the
stars
and
request
specific
allocations
in
other
categories.
B
Well,
I
I
think
those
are
good
thoughts,
because
you
know,
in
with
the
limitations
of
you,
know,
one
to
two
million
dollars.
Your
your
implementation
is
going
to
be
limited
to
basically
organizing
the
implementation,
and
so
the
you
know,
if
you're
talking
about
kind
of
capital
or
broad
distributions
of
of
assistance
and
so
forth
that
one
or
two
million
isn't
going
to
go
very
far
with
that.
So
so
clearly
those
things
need
to
be
either
placed
in
different
buckets
or
we
need
to
you
know,
bump
up
bump
up
the
allocation.
B
I
think
I
think
distributing
it
among
the
buckets
might
be
a
more
clever
approach
in
my
mind.
So,
for
example,
you
know
they.
They
talked
about
staff
support,
so
you
know,
I
think,
that's
a
good
thing
to
buy
into
you.
Need
somebody
dedicated
on
the
city
staff
to
organize
this
stuff
and
and
as
I
keep
reminding
who
our
our
new
sustainability
officer
is,
is
going
to
be
drinking
out
of
a
fire
hose
here
and
so
the
more
help
that
they
can
get
the
better
more
quickly.
Things
can
get
organized.
B
B
E
So
it
seems
to
me.
One
possibility
here
is
to
hire
either
a
part-time
or
a
full-time
assistant
lawyer
to
help
draft
those
things,
because
the
regular
lawyer
is
going
to
be
doing.
I
think
she's
probably
got
a
full-time
she's
got
a
full
plate
anyway,
aside
from
adding,
you
know
developing
new
ordinances
under
carp,
so
maybe
we
could
add
to
this
list
that
kind
of
a
person
with
a
specific
skill
that
could
be
an
assistant
to
the
corporation
council
in
drafting
ordinances.
B
Well,
that's
a
good
point.
Hal.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
ordinances,
don't
necessarily
come
out
of
the
legal
department,
they're
reviewed
by
the
legal
department
but
they're
they're
drafted
either
by
staff
or
or
even
groups
like
this
one.
You
know
we'll
put
together
it
and
then
it'll
get
fine-tuned
and
then
corporate
corporate
council
will
make
sure
there's
no
hiccups
in
there
someplace,
but
they
aren't
necessarily
the
originators.
A
That
actually
might
be
one
of
those
additional
buckets.
I
mean,
I
hope,
how
you
make
a
really
good
point:
there's,
probably
not
a
department
or
function
within
the
city
that
will
not.
You
know,
touch
need
to
be
involved
in
carp
implementation
and
will
need
to
be
enhanced
so
that
those
things
move
you
know
smoothly.
A
E
Yeah,
I
would
just
not
not
to
belabor
it,
but
I
would
being
having
been
through
springfield
activities
a
lot
and
knowing
what
happens
in,
what's
called
the
legislative
review
board
and
I
think
also
probably
almost
certainly
at
the
city
level.
It's
no
small
task
for
a
lawyer
to
review
an
ordinance
for
consistency
with
existing
ordinances
and
format,
and
all
that
it's
not
a
matter
of
just
checking
for
typos
they.
E
They
have
to
really
do
a
fair
amount
of
research
to
make
sure
that
that
the
language
doesn't
conflict
with
many
other
things
in
other
ordinances
or
in
larger,
related
documents.
So
I
really
think
that
it's
important
that
the
existing
corporation
council
get
help
doing
that,
because
I'm
I'm
afraid
that
it
will.
It
is
a
time-consuming
effort
to
do
what
we're
talking
about,
and
I
don't
think
she
has
time
to
do
that
and
she'll
just
it.
B
I
I'm
not
privy
yet
to
what
some
rfp
responses
have
been
to
that
to
that
request
for
proposals
in
terms
of
what
people
are
suggesting,
but
but
it's
a
it's.
It's
sort
of
an
imminent
kind
of
kind
of
thing,
at
least
in
terms
of
what
you
can
do
with
the
building
and
once
again
I
thought
this
money
can
be
used
to
stretch
to
the
good
version.
D
D
Well,
I
think
the
city,
the
forestry
division,
wants
to
do
a
a
tree
inventory,
update
the
tree
inventory
and
they
want
to
hire
a
consultant
to
develop.
I'm
not
sure
what
they're
calling
it
now,
but
it's
a
plan
for
natural
areas
and
green
spaces,
and
I
think
they
were
projecting
one
or
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
that
and
I
they.
D
They
told
me
that
they
were
asking
to
include
this
in
the
capital
budget.
But
you
know
if
it's
there's
a
complete
rationale
for
putting
it
in
here
as
an
equivalent.
So
the
tree
inventory
would
be
one
thing
you
need
to
have
an
updated
tree
inventory
and
an
urban
forest
management
plan
in
order
to
be
able
to
know
where
we
are
and
how
we're
doing
the
other
would
be
a
consultant
to
hire.
D
The
environment
board
gave
staff
on
the
the
way
they
started
out
to
implement
the
natural
areas
ordinance.
So
we
all
agreed.
It
was
a
good
idea
to
step
back
and
actually
have
a
proactive
plan,
and
not
just
wait
for
residents
to
you
know,
come
and
knock
on
their
door
and
say
I
want
a
natural
area
so
anyway,.
E
I
have
another
thought
if
I,
if
I
may-
and
I
know
that
I've
been
absent
from
a
lot
of
discussion,
so
I
apologize
if
I'm
stepping
out
out
of
line
here,
but
a
lot
of
the
things
we're
talking
about
here
can
be
done
by
the
city
with
very
little
interaction
by
public
community
members,
and
that's
that's
good.
Those
things
have
to
get
done.
E
There's
no
question
about
it,
but
there's
it
seems
to
me
if
we're,
since
most
of
the
land
owned
in
evanston
is
owned
privately,
and
we
need
to
have
things
happening
on
private
property
like
the
building,
electrification
and
transportation
upgrades
in
in
houses,
garages
and
all
the
things
that
are
in
the
different
areas
that
require
private
property
owners.
To
do
things.
E
There
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
outreach
program
overall
or
or
maybe
it's
going
to
be
part
of
each
one,
but
it
sort
of
seems
to
me
we.
We
need
to
have
an
outreach
plan
to
engage
with
the
public
on
those
areas
where
we
we
really
need
private
land
owners
and
property
owners
to
do
to
do
things
to
change
behavior
or
to
to
take
our
money.
C
Yeah,
I
agree.
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
piece
to
elevate
that
I
don't
know
that
we've
captured
so
far,
but
I
agree
with
how
that
you
know
it
is
written
into
the
plan,
this
kind
of
pr
aspect
of
it
and
really
to
educate
and
influence
behavior
change,
so
we're
collectively
reaching
the
goals
together,
because
we
we
need
private
entities
to
to
move
on
this
or
we're
never
going
to
meet
our
goals.
So
you
know
this.
C
E
They
are
working
with
the
city
to
make
that
happen,
and
I
don't
think
any
of
them
really
either
know
or
appreciate
that
we
have
carp
and
we're,
certainly
not
working
with
them
right
now
to
get
them
to
recommend
to
their
customers
something
other
than
a
new
natural
gas
boiler.
That's
really
efficient.
E
D
D
C
E
F
C
C
So
but
that's
like
a
whole
program
that
needs
somebody
to
run
it
and
need
you
know,
funds
to
be
allocated
to
it,
but
yeah
I
mean
we
all
of
these
things
need
to
happen,
but
we
also
need
to
sensitize
the
entire
community
businesses
included
to
whatever
aspects
of
the
plan.
A
consultant
would
deem
that
people
need
to
know
like.
A
Yeah
I
I
just
like
to
weigh
in
here,
though,
because
I
do
I
do
hear
the
distinction
between
communication,
whether
you
call
it
communication
or
outreach
or
marketing.
It's
still
one
directional
and
I
think
what
hal
was
alluding
to,
and
I
know
that
we've
been
talking
about
with
respect
to
the
leaf
blower
issue
and
others.
A
We
really
need
to
engage
and
listen
and
incorporate
the
you
know
the
experience
of
the
you
know:
hvac
contractors
and
the
people,
you
know
doing
the
development
and
you
know
because
there
will
be
you
know,
responses
there
will
be
barriers
or
perceived
misunderstandings
and
communication
is
important.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
I
think
the
city
is
also
very.
Has
a
poor
track
record
in
you
know
listening
and
engaging
yeah
that.
D
Was
maybe
I
I
I
gave
a
poor
example
by
by
mentioning
getting
messages
out.
I
think,
as
laura
knows,
marketing
and
communication
I
mean
it
is
two-way.
It's
not
it's
not
one
way,
that's
that's
kind
of
a
misconception
so
and
anyway
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
and
it
illustrates
why
resources
need
to
go
in
into
this
kind
of
work.
I
mean
figuring
out
who
who's
communicating.
What
to
whom
and
with
whom
you
know.
Even
that
alone
is
part
of
what
it
takes
is
breaking
it
down.
D
You
know
hvac
companies,
maybe
that's
one
of
the
groups
you
want
to
be
working
with.
You
need
to
understand
what
are
their
motivations.
You
know,
how
do
we
meet
them?
Where
do
we
find
them
all
of
that
in
order
to
shift
them?
So
anyway,
I
it's
terminology.
I
just
think
I
think
actually,
the
term
pr
may
be
more.
B
Well,
I
I,
I
think,
there's
some
persuading
to
be
done
for
a
lot
of
people
and
I
think
hal's
example
is
very
parallel
to
the
leaf
blower
you're
talking
about
a
market
transformation.
The
the
contractors
serving
their
customers
are
going
to
give
what
the
customers
keep
requesting
and
if
the
customers
keep
requesting
the
same
old
stuff
because
they
that's
all,
they
know,
they'll
keep
providing
that.
B
E
There
may
be
incentives
to
be
provided
not
not
just
to
the
property
owners
themselves,
but
also
maybe
to
the
businesses
in
some
way
to
encourage
them
to
do
what
we're
suggesting
to
market
the
new
approach.
As
you
say,
joel
they
there
right
now,
they
are
out
there
doing
what's
easiest
for
them
to
recommend
the
best
product,
what
they
call
the
best
product
and
it
may
not
be
the
product
that
is
best
for
carp.
E
It
may
be
best
for
them
because
they
make
more
money
selling
that
thing,
and
it
sounds
neat
because
it's
the
latest
and
greatest,
but
I
I
think,
we're
all
agreeing
that
and
jerry
uses
the
a
good
word
to
engagement
partnering
with
those
entities,
the
businesses
that
will
actually
be
making
these
things
happen
and
not
just
telling
them
so
that
they
know
about
it,
but
actually
making
change
making
them
anyway.
I
agree.
B
C
I
mean
to
me:
I
see
like
an
implement
a
consultant
for
the
spectrum.
Full
spectrum
of
implementation
would
develop
a
road
map
and
their
would
communication
plan
would
be
part
of
their
project
plan.
I
mean
the
city
is
not
even
communicating
in
any
consistent
way
on
the
subject:
they're
supposed
to
be
and
they're
supposed
to
be,
releasing
regular
reports
and
they're
supposed
to
be
providing
updates
to
the
community.
C
None
of
that
is
happening
at
least
with
any
like
reach,
because
I'm
pretty
well
tapped
into
things,
and
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
so
I
think
there
there's
the
aspect
of
this,
but
there
is
like
a
formal.
The
city
needs
to
own
a
formal
community
implementation
and
communication
plan.
Those
should
be
together.
There
should
be
benchmarks
that
they're
holding
themselves
accountable
to
so,
however,
we
suss
it
out,
but
what
how
I,
what
hell's
kind
of
talking
about
what
we're
all
talking
about
is
is
even
bigger
than
that.
A
C
That
will,
you
know,
there's
a
change
management
within
the
city
that
will
should
be
part
of
it.
There's
internal
external
communication
players.
So,
in
terms
of
like
a
project
management,
how
this
should
be
managed
by
like
an
external
consultant
like
there
will
be
all
of
these
different
elements
to
the
larger
com,
implementation
roadmap
right.
B
E
E
Be
the
main
thing
and
that
the
engagement
part
will
be
kind
of
a
weak
add-on
and
I'm
a
little
bit
afraid
if
it's,
if
it's
not
by
itself,
it'll
get
lost
or
it'll
be
given
short
shrift.
But
if
we,
if
we
keep
beating
that
drum
while
we're
describing
what
we
mean
by
implementation
and
engagement,
then
maybe
we're
okay,
I'm
not
trying
to
make
another
bucket
necessarily.
But
if,
if
everybody
thought
that
that
was
more
likely
to
be
effective,
then
I
would
go
for
that.
B
A
I
was
going
to
suggest
I
actually
I
was
going
to
suggest
kind
of
building
off
of
what
laura
lauren
said.
The
you
know,
tarp
implementation
plan
is
this.
You
know
very
fully
developed
road
map
that
includes
full
community
engagement
or
something
that
that
describes
the
characteristics
of
an
implementation
plan
has
all
these
elements
in
it,
and
then
we
can
get
into
these
the
detailed
descriptions
at
a
later
time.
Right
now,
we
could
just
say
an
implementation
plan
that
services
our
road
map
for
carp
and
includes
full
community
engagement.
E
It's
okay
with
me:
that's
fine!
I
didn't
mean
to
suggest
it
had
to
be
different,
but
joel.
I
appreciate
your
separating
it.
I
agree
with
jerry
makes
a
good
point.
I
mean
if
we
as
I
say,
if
we
keep
explaining
what
we
mean
and
making
sure
that
it
doesn't
get
lost
because
we're,
but
we
have
to
be
there
at
the
table
continuing
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
get
pushed
aside
and
made
into
a
minor.
D
E
D
And
even
for
thinking
about
how
much
money
are
we
talking
about
so
we
before
we
arrive
at
another
number
that
we're
going
to
suggest.
I
mean
it
is
not
a
minor
thing
to
develop
and
carry
out.
You
know,
you
don't
want
a
road
map
to
your
communication
engagement
plan.
You
want
to
do
it,
I
mean
I
I
was
just
looking
at
the
city's
website.
Yet
again
you
know
I
I
go
and
I
want
to
see
the
climate
action
plan
and
it's
like
it's
it's.
You
know.
F
D
E
Yeah,
so
that
means
that
that
actually
leads
to
the
idea
of
in
each
in
any
of
these
buckets
what
are,
as
you
say,
wendy.
What
are
we
talking
about
in
terms
of
money?
Are
we
talking
about
one
person?
Are
we
talking
about
a
team
of
people
and
that
that
requires
more
dollars?
It's
not
one
person
you're
talking
about
salaries
for
a
bunch
of
people
and
an
engagement
plan.
B
Well,
I've
I've
just
ballparked
it
in
my
head.
I've
mentioned
this
to
a
couple
of
people
already.
You
know
another
city
staff
person
is
75
000
a
year
just
in
round
numbers.
A
consultant
for
one
thing
could
be
another
75
and
then
you've
got
another
75
for
for
whatever.
So
there's
just
in
round
numbers.
There's
your
200
000
a
year
and
it
gets
used
up
pretty
quickly
in
in
right
in
the
proposed
allocation
right
now,.
A
Talking
about
two
different
things
here,
I
just
want
to
clarify,
at
least
in
my
own
head
and
we've
been
talking
about
structurally.
How
to
you
know,
get
this
roadmap.
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
you
know,
stand
up
a
program
that
includes
community
engagement
includes
some.
You
know
directional
way
of
setting
priorities.
A
D
C
You
know
framework
and
say:
okay,
I
want
to
see
carp
in
every
category
and
I
I
want
to
see
a
you
know.
We
have.
We
have
to
put
the
money
where
the
plan
is
and
see
across
all
these
categories.
What
aligns
with
carp?
What
are
we
going
to
put
money
towards?
So
I
would
I'm
at.
I
would
be
very
firm
in
asking
them
to
not
pigeonhole
carp
into
one
line
item.
It's
selling,
it
short.
A
Right,
I
I
definitely
want
to
make
sure
I
I
tried
to
add
a
sentence
at
the
end
of
of
my
proposed
note
to
that
effect,
but
that's
much
better
said
lauren
and
maybe
that
should
come
up
first,
you
know
we.
We
appreciate
the
the
staff
work
in
allocating
funds,
but
here
is
their
you
know.
Reality
is
that
everyone
needs
to
be
thinking
along
these
lines
and
and
coming
up
with
their
individual
strategies,
for
you
know
accomplishing
this
work
I
just
want
to.
A
I
want
to
get
something
out
there,
and-
and
certainly
these
are
not
you
know
comprehensive.
These
are
great
examples
of
what
needs
to
happen
and
they
should
be
listed,
maybe
joel
if
you,
if
you're
pulling
this
together.
As
you
know,
you
know
here
are
some
examples
of
the
work
that
we
see
the
car
call
calls
for,
but
it
is
by
no
means
a
complete
list.
D
But,
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
making
the
point
that
these
are
things
that
either
one
absolutely
have
to
be
done
right
now,
like
the
the
overall
road
map
and,
in
addition,
are
ready
to
go
right
now,
so
you
know
like
so
those
I
think
have
to
be
earmarked
or
they'll
disappear.
You
know
this.
We
all
know
if
you
just
say
think
about
it
in
all
the
different
areas
think
about
this
equity
filter.
Think
about
the
carb
filter.
It's
not
going
to
happen,
you
know
or
or
it's
going
to
be,
an
ongoing
struggle.
A
B
A
Right
yeah,
no,
I
think
so
it
you
know
it
shouldn't
be
horribly
long,
but
it
could
be.
You
know,
maybe
a
couple
of
pages
if
they'll,
if
they
were
not
going
to
read
any
more
than
two
pages,
is
my
concern,
but
we
could
maybe
add
an
attachment
I
was
thinking
about
and
and
the
next
thing
on
our
agenda
is
to
look
at
the
dashboard.
D
B
B
D
B
A
Do
we
want
to
okay,
and
I
totally
agree,
I
think,
making
sure
we
characterize
these.
As
you
know,
these
are
ready
to
go,
but
in
terms
of
hiring
the
consultant
for
the
comprehensive
carp,
implementation
plan
or
implementation
plan
and
engagement
plan,
do
we
want
to
put
a
dollar
amount
out
there
in
my
conversations
that
I've
had
with
jonathan
recently,
you
know
we're
reacting
to
a
staff
proposal
of
one
million
dollars,
which
we
clearly
think
is
inadequate,
because
it's
not
going
to
get
us
where
we
need
with
the
vulnerability
assessment.
A
These
you
know
the
additional
staff
for
offices,
sustainability
and,
quite
frankly,
his
proposal
to
add
a
half
a
million
dollars
to
that
initial
staff
proposal
over
a
five-year
period
was
for
environmental
justice
and
and
when
you
you
pitch
and
hold
that
in
with
the
rest
of
this
there's,
not
enough
money.
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
do
we
want
to
propose
you
know,
2
million?
Do
we
want
to
propose
2.5
or
3
million?
I
mean.
What
do
you
think
is.
D
G
B
Well,
one
thing
that
never
seems
to
be
in
the
city
conversation
is,
is
the
grant
universe
and
we
never
hear
about
you
know,
okay,
what?
If
you?
What,
if
you
set
aside
3
million
and
that'll,
get
you
part
way
and
then
the
rest
of
the
way
you
know
somebody's
digging
out
a
grant
to
help
offset
the
costs.
I.
B
D
It
takes
yeah,
it
takes
time
to
get
grant
money
and
it
takes
time
and
skill
to
administer
them.
Having
had
experience
with
staff
who
are
not
fully
capable
of
administering
grant
grants,
I'd
say
if
the
money
is
there
in
this
arp
fund
like
get
as
much
as
possible
right
now,
you
know
yeah,
you
could
always
use
more
through
grants,
you
know
and
and
actually
emily
oklahoma.
One
of
her
functions
are
supposed
to
be
applying
for
grants,
but
you
know
you
spend
time
getting
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
grant.
It's
not
worth
it.
E
E
Now
in
many
aspects,
including
environmental
justice-
and
I
mean
it's
huge-
how
much,
how
many
billions
and
billions
of
dollars
over
fijia
fijia
was
kind
of
like
the
first
pilot
program
and
now
they've
they've,
you
know
got
four
or
five
times
the
amount
of
money
that
they're
putting
in
this
time,
they're
really
serious
about
meeting
the
goals.
So
that's
one
message
that
I
think
the
city
needs
to
hear
loud
and
clear
is
that
this
is
not.
E
This
is
not
just
a
nice-to-have
thing
and
it's
not
a
little
bunch
of
people
sitting
on
the
sidelines
going.
You
know
we
really
would
like
to
have
this.
The
state
is
really
interested
in
doing
this,
and
the
money
is
actually
being
provided
in
many
cases
for
these
projects,
so
we
should
be
able
to,
as
joel
says,
go
out
and
get
that
money
just
like
everybody
else.
We
may
not,
and
maybe
it
goes
priority
to
the
lower
income
areas
of
evanston,
but
nonetheless
that
could
be
significant
dollars
that
are
available
to
us.
F
A
A
A
That
would
be
ideal,
but
I
do
think
you
should
put
something
if
you
can
put
something
in
writing:
an
email,
an
individualized
email
to
each
of
the
the
council,
members
that
that
was
sort
of
my
thought
that
some
of
them,
you
know
the
everyone-
will
read
an
email
from
the
two
co-chairs
of
the
working
group.
Everyone
will
read
an
email
from
the
two
co-chairs
of
the
environment
board.
They
will,
but
your
individual
account.
A
A
Right
going
on
yeah
I
I
was
assuming
that
joel
was
good
with
that.
You
know,
you
know
creating
this
kind
of
overall
thing
and
then
in
your
message,
joel
and
lauren
could
be
very
brief.
It's
just
you
know,
hey
remember
back
in
2018,
or
you
know
when
we,
when
we
develop
this
thing,
it's
it's
time.
You
know
we.
We
need
your
attention.
A
Yeah
again,
I
I
am
making
an
assumption
here,
and
I
thought
you
agreed
to
this-
that
you
were
going
to
incorporate
some
of
what
we've
been
talking
about
here,
the
consultant
and
and
all
this
into
the
draft
that
I
have,
and
maybe
you
know,
feel
free
to
cut
and
edit
what
I
have
so
that
that
can
go
from
the
cit
or
it
can
go
from.
You
know
each
of
us
individually
or
whatever,
but
I'm
happy
to
send
it
as
a
cit
work
product.
A
D
D
I
I
assume
shari
will
say
sure
she's
on
here
listening
I
mean
yes,
yes,
yes,
I
just.
I
just
think
that
you
know
who's
sending
the
most
comprehensive
one,
and
you
know
is
that
is
that
cherie
and
me
is
that
joel
and
lauren
is
it.
You
know
they
echo
each
other.
So
you
know
I
mean
joel
and
lauren,
maybe
if
you
can,
since
you've
got
it
in
your
head
right
now,
if
you
take
the
next
step,
we
can.
We
could
be
in
touch
offline
about
how
to
do
that.
A
E
A
E
A
D
F
D
A
C
E
F
E
I
were
if
I
were
able
to,
for
example,
email
suffered
in
something
friday
or
saturday,
and
I
could
add
and
give
him
my
personal
note
about
you
know
saying
something
about
what
I
was
saying
earlier.
Whatever
you
want
me
to
say,
you
know
whatever
I
but
then
add
to
then
attach
to
it
two
or
three
other
letters
that
jerry
you
and
and
joel
or,
and
anyone
else
writes.
Maybe
that
would
be
a
good
way
for
him
to
see
not
only
what
his
own
constituent
is
saying,
but
also
what
others
are
saying.
E
It
also
I
to
me
it
just
sort
of
adds
credibility
to
what
I'm
doing
I
mean
I'm.
I
am
a
constituent,
but
if
I
don't
appear
to
be
the
only
one
saying
these
things
and
then
we've
got
members
of
the
actual
environment
board
saying
these
things
I
mean
I
do
have
a
role
here,
but
you
you
guys,
have
a
little
more
a
title
than
I
do
so
that
would
be
helpful
to
me.
I
think.
E
Mean
I
I
have,
for
example,
that
I
can
I
can
provide
if
I
don't
know
that
it
makes
I'm
on,
I
would
have
to
think
about
it,
but
there
is
a
very
good
summary
it's
about
20
pages.
I
don't
expect
to
read
it,
but
to
show
the
fact
that
there
is
this
900
page
bill
that
was
just
passed
literally
it's
950
pages
and
it's
got
billions
in
bill
and
I
might
be
able
to
take
out
like
three
statistics
and
put
it
in
my
little
email
and
say
by
the
way.
E
Did
you
know
the
state's
doing
this,
and
this
is
how
it
compares
with
fijian
we're,
really
they're
serious,
you
know
and
then
by
the
and
I'm
attaching
you
know
the
summary
and
the
bill
just
for
you
just
for
if
you
ever
felt,
like
you
know,
looking
at
page
47
or
whatever,
that
that
would
be
kind
of
my
legalistic
approach
to
to
giving
him
just
enough
for
so
he
can
see
what
I
say
and
if
he
wanted
to,
he
could
go
verify.
What
I'm
saying
by
looking
at
my
added
attachments.
D
D
D
A
This
opportunity,
the
more
I
think
about
it.
How
I
think
your
message
is
one
that
all
the
city
council
members
would
benefit
from
and
and
if
we
do
the
individual
ones
in
our
in
our
own
ward,
it's
more,
you
know,
hey,
I'm
a
constituent,
and
I
care
about
this
and
and
by
the
way
you
know,
I'm
I'm
looking
to
you
to
to
step
up
and
and
support
this
overall
effort,
not
a
long
message
or
detailed
message,
but
hell.
D
D
E
I
would
be
cutting
and
pasting,
I'm
not
I'm
not
going
to
draft
I'm,
not
thomas
jefferson,
I'm
going
to
try
to
use
the
summary
and
and
summaries
that
have
been
written
by
the
iec
and
folks
like
that,
some
of
it's
a
little
bit
too
hyperbolic
for
me.
So
I
wanted
to
sound
down
to
earth
and
realistic
and
real,
but
I
will
draw
from
those
other
places,
but
I
it's
going
to
take
some
time.
I
need
to
set
aside
time
to
do
that
and
make
it
happen.
Probably.
B
A
You
know
we
we
could.
I
I'm
just
concerned
that
we
not
wait
until
sunday
to
get
stuff
out.
That's
that's
just
I
think.
That's
a
mistake.
They're
gonna
start
reviewing
this
over
the
weekend.
I
actually
don't
think
we
can
wait
until
this.
The
pack
is
published,
but
we
could
refine
our
message
and
add
another
one.
If
you
think
that
was
wise,
but.
E
E
A
Or
or
friday
at
noon,
so
they
get
it
at
approximately
the
same
time
they
get
the
packet,
because
if
they
don't
get
it
until
saturday,
the
chances
of
them
digesting
it
when
they're
digesting
their
their.
What
I've
learned
about
you
know
some
of
the
city
council
members
is
that
they
are
so
inundated
with
this.
You
know
300
400,
page
packet,
that
really
even
reading
their
email
is
going
to
be
challenging.
D
D
Jerry,
a
good
question
since
you've
been
in
touch
with
jonathan
about
this.
Just
are
you
gonna
give
him
a
heads
up
in
the
next
day
that
we're
going
to
come
back
saying
this?
What
you
proposed
isn't
enough
jonathan,
I
mean
just
so
he
and
eleanor
also
so
they're
fully
prepared.
For
our
saying.
We
need
to
increase
that
even
more.
A
Absolutely
yeah.
The
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
blindside
our
allies
right
yeah.
So
did
we
settle?
I
mean
I
mean
you
know.
5
million
is,
you
know,
is
a
little
bit
pulled
out
of
the
air,
but
you
know
it's.
It
does
send
a
message
that
we
believe
that
a
significant
you
know
investment
is
is
necessary
to
to
move
forward.
A
B
C
But
we
also
expect
there
to
be
carp-related
items
in
other.
You
know
buckets
because
I
don't
I
just
don't
want
to
lose
an
opportunity
where
you
know
this.
Money
is
for
recovery
and
resiliency
is
a
part
of
that
and
moving
our
city
forward
in
all
of
the
aspects
of
carp
all
ties
into
a
more
resilient,
more,
you
know
sustainable
city,
and
I
think
we
need
to
capitalize
on
that.
A
And
this
is
being
recorded,
so
hopefully
I
don't
know
if
shanica
you
can
hear
this,
but
I
hope
you'll
post
the
video
as
soon
as
possible,
because
it
will
help
all
of
our
memories.
That
was
beautifully
said
lauren
and
that's
kind
of
why
I
I
would
actually
like
to
have
you
and
joel.
You
know
stepping
out,
as
the
you
know,
working
group
co-chairs,
because
you
are
the
you
know,
kind
of
senior
carp
officials
and
I
think
your
perspective
is
extremely
important
and
should
be
heard.
E
B
G
A
C
A
And
if
we
you
know,
we
added
this,
I
think
I
don't
know
in
your
notes,
but
the
idea
of
getting
a
grant
a
person
to
take
advantage
of
the
available
funding
that
is
out
there.
For
you
know,
carp
implementation,
so
you've
got
the
place
funds
in
reserve
for
implementation
of
the
h,
study
and
other
things.
D
Can
I
just
throw
something
else
out,
I'm
sorry.
This
is
like
I
meant
to
mention
it
earlier,
but
that's
the
city
municipal,
the
zero
emissions
strategy
that
elevate
energy's
working
on
are
there
is,
should
that
be
thrown
in.
Here
too,
as
I
mean
just
just
transitioning
the
vehicle
fleet,
for
example,
I
I've
wondered
like
isn't
that,
like
a
really
concrete
thing,
they're
ready
to
do
now,
every
year
they
buy
new
vehicles,
new
new
equipment
for
maintaining
parks
anyway,
just
just
yeah.
B
A
Okay,
I'm
I
I'm
aware
of
the
time
and
also
about
all
of
the
various
assignments
that
that
everyone
is
taking
on
joel
you
and
I
will
talk
in
the
very
near
future.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
you
know
suggesting
this
approach,
because
I
I
think
it's
really
great
wendy
and
cherie.
Do
you
have
any
questions
about
what
you're
doing
next?
Are
you
gonna
so
joel-
and
I
will
like
put
this
together,
but
I
think
maybe
one
idea
is
just
to
give
it
to
you
and
and
cherie
to
send.
B
B
F
A
A
Having
said
that,
and
with
chris
still
on
board
I'd
like
to
know
if
we
could
pivot
over
to
the
dashboard,
because
at
some
point
within
the
next
month,
or
so,
I
hope
we
will
be
in
a
position
to
present
the
dashboard
to
city
council,
the
mayor
and
and
others,
and
certainly
certainly
the
new
sustainability
coordinator.
So
let's
see
pull
that
up
and
wendy.
Thank
you
for
your
tutorial.
It
it
still
has
to
sink
in,
but
let's
see.
G
So
I
just
want
to
think
about
that.
But
but
you
know
knowing
that
that
this
is
kind
of
taking
a
backseat
to
more
pressing
concerns.
Perhaps
we
can
talk
more
about
it
at
the
next
meeting
but
I'll.
I
I'm
so
sorry
that
I
have
to
run,
but
we
can.
We
can
catch
up,
maybe
at
the
next
environment,
more
board,
meeting
jerry.
A
D
A
A
A
So
here
we
are,
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
this,
but
I
I'm
really
pleased
with
what
I've
seen
and
so
the
renewable
energy
piece
I
don't
know
joel.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
this
for
a
minute,
or
should
we
just
skim
right
through
it,
since
we
need
to
spend,
we
really
do
need?
I
think
chris
is
absolutely
right.
We
need
some
context
in
which
to
present
this.
A
Renewable
energy
you've
seen
that
building
efficiency.
You
know
we
don't
really
have
the
numbers
in
here
in
terms
of
buildings
in
leed
certified
buildings
in
evanston,
but
I'm
guessing
that
that's
available.
So
this
is
the
the
idea
is.
This
is
the
kind
of
information
that
would
be
presented?
You
know
zero
waste
has.
I
was
hoping
that
chris
was
gonna
stick
around
because
we
had
this
original
report
and
I
think,
we're
I
think,
we're
a
little
bit
behind
the
eight
ball
on
zero
waste.
A
This
is
the
harder
one,
but
we
can
work
on
that,
obviously
before
we
present
urban
canopy
and
green
space.
So
I
just
love
the
you
know:
the
heat
island
photos
or
the
tree
canopy
photo
that
shows
heat
impact.
Do
you
want
us?
Oh
sorry,
do
you
want
to
go
back?
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
about
this
wendy.
D
Yeah
I
get,
I
guess
I
should
clean
this
up.
I
I
think
I
would.
I
can
ask
the
staff
for
graphs
that
show
the
age
composition
and
carbon
stored
it.
It
does
take
some
explanation,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
to
make
make
that
succinct.
But
the
point
of
that
is
the
the
forest
as
a
whole
is
too
young
and
and
the
carbon
stored
by
public
trees
by
wards
as
a
way
of
seeing
that
there
aren't
as
many
really
big
old
trees
in
the
poorer
wards.
D
A
Well,
I
think
the
powerful
thing
that
you
mentioned
earlier
in
the
meeting
was
about
you
know
the
prioritizing.
The
tree
inventory
prioritizing
the
plan
for
natural
areas
and
green
spaces.
You
know
just
really
managing
our
urban
forest
and
and
having
you
know,
maybe
that's
a
context
that
we
present
along
with
this.
This
is
kind
of
the
the
picture
of
what
is
here
and
and
that's
why
it's
so
important
right.
So
that's!
That's
really
great.
Excuse
me.
The
water
supply
aspect.
A
F
B
The
I
think
one
of
the
distinguishing
things
there
is
is
the
separation
of
single-family
and
multi-family
service
water
service
versus
the
total,
and
then
you
know.
Ultimately,
how
does
the
the
unknown
component
is?
How
much
of
that
is
actually
due
to
landscape,
irrigation
and
so
forth
and
is
did
how
do
you
relate
that
to
rainfall
for
those
particular
years?
So
that's
that's
a
refinement
that
has
yet
to
be
done.
If
it
can
be
done.
A
Okay,
so
this
one
will
benefit
from
some
a
little
bit
further
work,
but
that's
it's
promising,
and
this
is
the
tough
one
lauren.
This
is
the
area
that
you
know
rachel
and
I
have
spent
you
know
in
others
really
hours
talking
about.
How
do
we
gauge
behavior
change?
How
do
we
capture
this,
and
it
partially
was
what
we
were
talking
about
today?
A
I
I
don't
know
that
the
metrics,
these
aren't,
probably
the
metrics,
certainly
not
number
of
events
or,
but
I
you
know
lauren,
if,
if
you
could,
if
you
were
able,
you
know
at
some
time
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
or
maybe
a
couple
of
months
put
together
some
of
your
thoughts
on
how
to
gauge
our
success
in
outreach,
education
and
behavior
change.
That
would
be
so
valuable
because
we've
been
really
struggling
with
this.
B
A
B
Well,
I
processed
what
some
other
people
had
had
written
down.
So
one
of
the
things
that
dick
glenn
dick
lanyon
somehow
came
up
with
this
imperviousness
history
in
the
shown
in
the
graph,
and
I
substituted
that
into
one
of
the
other
charts
that
was
in
there
before
just
just
so,
people
could
contemplate
it's.
B
E
E
Two
other
things
are
this:
the
age
of
the
drainage
system
that
we
put
in
between
50
and
100
years
ago
was
not
built
for
this
amount
of
impervious
surface
that
so
that's
number
two
which
again,
those
two
things
together
are
going
to
just
result
in
a
lot
more
flooding
and
then
the
third
thing
is
climate
change,
so
the
intensity
of
the
storms
has
increased
in
the
midwest.
It's
about
30
percent,
more
intense
rainfall
than
we
had
50
years
ago
now.
E
So
when
it
rains
per
hour,
it
rains
more
per
hour,
so
it
doesn't
have
time
to
even
get
into
the
storm
system
if
it
is
going
anywhere.
So
this
this
is
going
to
the
climate
resilience
part
of
the
the
plan,
but
it's
it's
really
critical
that
we
maybe
take
note
of
all
those
things
that
are
happening
all
at
once,
and
this
is
just
one
of
the.
This
is
one
of
the
important
three
important
parts
of
that.
B
A
B
B
And
then
the
just
just
in
the
the
bottom
center
there
claire
had
a
bunch
of
kind
of
like
refrigerator
type
magnets,
prepared
that
essentially
say
that
yeah,
and
that
goes
with
the
community
alert
about
reducing
your
your
water
consumption
during
during
a
forecasted
heavy
rainfall.
So
you
don't
pile
on
the
rainfall
with
your
laundry
and
things
like
that.
Right.
A
D
D
On
that
last
one,
the
public,
behavior
change
and
all
that
the
signing
up
for
community
solar.
You
know
I'm
just
thinking
of
me
group
actions.
You
know
not
this
carbon
footprint,
individual
actions,
which
I
think
we
really
need
to
avoid,
but
that
would
be
one
and
another
one.
What
was
I
oh?
I
we
might
be
able
to
get
figures
on
participation
in
compost,
composting
opportunities.
B
A
D
But
I
like
thinking
about
this
as
orientation
for
the
new
staff
person
yeah,
but
also
it
would
also
help
us
figure
out
like
what
do
we
want
to
do
with
this?
More
generally,
you
know-
or
maybe
it's
helpful
to
to
her.
You
know
that
she'll
say
oh,
this
is
great.
You
know.
If
you
can
keep
doing
this,
I
can
use
it
so
anyway,.
F
B
A
D
A
C
A
B
B
A
Right
and
and
well
to
some
extent,
you
know
it's
it's
it's
that
the
there
are
neighborhoods
that
are
under
that,
where
infrastructure
has
been
allowed
to,
you
know,
decline
and
that
they're
disproportionately
vulnerable
so
that
I
think
that's
going
to
come
out
of
the
vulnerability
assessment.
At
least
it's
my
hope
that
once
that's
done,
this
is
going
to
become
a
lot
more
clear.
C
A
D
Sorry,
the
environment
board
will
be
meeting
in
a
couple
weeks,
two
and
a
half
weeks.
I
think
so,
if
there's
anything
that
you
want
to
bring
up
for
the
agenda,
don't
don't
forget
to
let
sheree
and
me
know
and
jerry,
maybe
maybe
we
could
talk
for
a
second
afterwards
about
this
idea
of
another
letter.
Okay,
thank
you
joel
for
what
you're
you're
about
to
yeah.