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A
Welcome
everyone:
this
is
mayor,
steve
hagerty
and
you
are
joining
our
coronavirus,
q
and
a
the
last
one
of
2020.
Thank
goodness.
We
didn't
start
out
the
year,
thinking
that
we
were
going
to
be
doing
anything
on
a
pandemic,
and
yet
here
we
are
living
it
every
single
hour
of
the
day
and
for
the
the
last
session
of
the
year.
I
wanted
to
double
back
to
something
we
talked
about.
I
think.
In
the
late
summer
we
had
a
q
a
session
on
mental
health
and
mental
health
is
a
rising
issue
in
this
country.
A
You
know,
irrespective
of
a
pandemic,
and
it's
something
that
we
need
to
focus
more
resources
on
more
attention
on,
and
so
I'm
pleased
today
to
have
the
two
leads
of
our
mental
health
working
group,
part
of
the
mayor's
pandemic
task
force
with
us.
We
have
dr
christine
somerville,
who
is
with
nami
and
dr
idea,
goodin,
who
is
with
the
family
institute
of
northwestern,
and
so
when
I
turn
it
over
to
each
of
you
just
so.
A
It's
been
a
while,
for
our
audience,
just
give
a
real,
quick,
just
a
little
your
background
and
who
you
work
with
and
what
your
specialties
are.
If
you,
if
you
have
any
of
that,
we
did
have
a
coronavirus
q.
A
last
week
where
we
spoke
about
the
vaccine,
we
will
be
doing
another
one
of
those
with
the
topic
on
vaccines
when
we
all
get
back
from
the
holidays,
because
I
know
that's
top
of
mind
for
everyone.
I
did
run
through
the
situation
report
last
week.
A
I'm
not
going
to
do
that
this
week,
other
than
to
say
the
advisory
is
still,
in
effect,
for
us
to
stay
at
home
as
much
as
possible
to
limit
our
interaction
with
others
as
difficult
as
that
is
particularly
during
the
holidays.
You
know
these
protocols
are
making
a
difference.
Our
median
or
our
seven
day
average
has
dropped.
It
was
around
35
a
few
weeks
ago.
It's
now
down
at
25
cases
a
day.
A
Our
positivity
rate
here
in
evanston
is
about
five
and
a
half
percent
based
on
the
situation
report
that
I
looked
at
this
morning.
So
you
know
all
in
all.
Our
numbers
have
gone
down
a
bit
and
that's
because
of
all
the
actions
that
everyone
in
our
community
is
taking.
So
thank
you
for
that.
So,
let's
turn
our
attention,
though,
to
the
the
mental
health
working
group.
A
Why
don't
we
just
start
off
dr
summerville
with
an
update
for
our
audience
of
what
the
focus
of
the
mental
health
working
group
has
been
and
then
we'll
take
the
conversation
from
there.
B
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
for
inviting
us
we're
happy
to
be
here.
I
am
christine
somerville.
I
am
the
director
of
programs
at
nami
cook,
county
north,
suburban,
I'm
also
a
certified
mental
health.
First
aid
instructor
and
my
background
and
specialization
is
I'm
a
a
mental
health
educator
by
training.
B
So
the
task
force
has
been
working
for
the
last
10
months.
I
think
really
on
three
major
projects.
One
was
to
put
together
kind
of
a
we're,
calling
it
a
dashboard
for
the
community,
so
it's
metrics
that
we
are
looking
at
for
evanston
that
can
be
viewed
sort
of
in
tandem
with
the
metrics
that
we
look
at
for
the
pandemic.
So
on
a
regular
basis.
B
We
hear
updates
from
the
department
of
public
health
around
hospitalizations
infections,
incubations,
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
we
wanted
to
have
a
dashboard
on
mental
health
metrics
that
could
sort
of
parallel
that
and
help
us
track
and
understand
what's
going
on
in
evanston
with
our
residents.
So
that's
one
piece
of
it.
The
other
piece
is
a
resource
guide
and
some
education
materials,
and
I'm
going
to
let
dr
gooden
talk
about
that.
C
Sure
really
happy
to
be
here
today,
so
my
name
is
adia
goodin.
I
am
a
licensed
clinical
psychologist
and
I'm
the
director
of
the
betty
d
harris
child
and
family
clinic
and
community
programs
at
the
family
institute
at
northwestern.
So
I
do
see
clients
and
then
I
also
oversee
our
sliding
fee
scale
clinic.
So
we
have
put
together
educational
resources
and
the
main
aim
of
that
is
to
get
the
word
out
of
that.
C
Mental
health
is
essential
that
it
is
important
and
to
provide
some
easy
and
accessible
tips
to
help
people
take
care
of
their
mental
health
and
those
were
have
started
being
shared
during
the
fall
and
will
be
shared
throughout
evanston,
both
online
via
the
evanston
newsletter
and
in
in
person
in
paper
format,
starting
in
2021
as
well,
and
we
also
worked
on
creating
a
list
of
mental
health
service
organizations
that
provide
free,
low
cost
or
accept
public
insurance
for
mental
health
services.
C
B
And
one
last
thing:
we
also
created
a
survey,
a
community
mental
health
survey
because
we
wanted
to
ask
residents
what
is
you
know
how
they're
feeling
during
this
time
it's
the
questions
that
were
that
we're
asking
are
nationally
referenced
and
they're
on
the
city
website,
so
it
launched,
I
think,
a
month
ago,
with
surveys
we're
getting
good
responses,
it's
both
in
english
and
in
spanish.
So
we
encourage
anyone
to
go
to
the
website
and
to
complete
the
survey,
so
we
can
find
out.
You
know
how
you're
feeling.
A
Right,
I
would,
I
would
say
I
completed
the
survey
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
I
saw,
because
I
wanted
to
see
you
know
what
the
survey
was
asking
and
all
and
all
of
that,
so
I
would
encourage
our
residents
to
do
that.
I
forgot
to
mention
at
the
top
of
the
show
that
this
is
being
broadcast,
live
on
the
city's
facebook
page
as
well
as
on
channel
16,
which
is
the
local
television
station
here
in
evanston.
A
If
you
have
questions
during
the
show,
we're
going
to
take
those
questions
for
either
of
the
doctors
that
are
with
us,
so
just
go
ahead
and
and
put
that
on
facebook
live
and
our
communication
staff
is
monit
is
monitoring
that,
let's,
let's
start
here
what
are-
and
this
is
for
both
of
you.
A
So,
let's
start
with
you,
dr
gooden,
on
this
one,
you
mentioned
up
front
the
the
three
major
focuses
of
the
of
the
working
group,
the
community
community
dashboard
and
there's
a
bunch
of
data
that
you're
assembling
on
sort
of
a
baseline
of
where
our
mental
health
is
and
then
measuring
that
through
your
community
surveys
that
you're
doing
and
then
the
resource
guide,
so
you've
seen
that
you've
seen
that
data
you're
a
professional
in
this
field.
What
are
your
top
concerns
when
it
comes
to
mental
health
over
the
next
several
months?.
C
Yeah,
it's
a
really
good
question.
I
think
you
know
people
are
exhausted
right.
People
are
really
tired
of
only
being
in
the
house
and
not
being
able
to
go
out
and
not
having
a
lot
to
look
forward
to
people
are
really
lonely.
I
think,
especially
if
they're
living
alone-
and
we
know
that
loneliness
can
be
really
connected
with
depression
and
cause
a
lot
of
health
issues.
C
Some
people
are
starved
of
physical
touch
if
they
live
alone,
and
that
can
be
a
really
real
challenge
where
mammals
and
and
we
need
physical
touch
to
be
healthy,
and
so
I
think
my
concern
for
the
next
few
months
is
just
that.
These
things
will
get
worse
right,
that
it's
it's
winter,
winter
is
coming
in
the
chicagoland
area
in
evanston,
there's
going
to
be
less
opportunities
to
go
outside
less
opportunities
to
gather
safely
outside
at
a
physically
physical
in
with
physical
distance,
and
that
people
will
feel
more
alone.
C
There's
less
sunlight,
and
you
know
we
know
that
many
people.
I
think
I
read
a
statistic
this
morning.
That
said,
maybe
10
million
people
are
affected
by
something
called
seasonal,
affective
disorder,
which
is
when
you
experience
depression
in
the
fall
and
winter.
When
there's
less
sunlight,
you
know
it
just
affects
you
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
So
I'm
concerned
about
that.
C
I'm
concerned
about
people
who
are
alone
and
isolated
feeling
more
alone
and
isolated
because
of
access
to
in-person
connection
is
limited
right
now,
because
it's
risky
and
because
it's
hard
to
be
outside
and
gather
that
way.
A
Dr
somerville,
anything
to
to
add
to
what
dr
gooden
said.
There.
B
Yeah-
and
that
was
a
really
good
response-
very
comprehensive-
I
for
me-
I
I
think
I
would
add
also
that
I
am
concerned
about
all
of
us
having
these
feelings
of
hopelessness
and
uncertainty,
and
I
mean
the
reality.
Is
it
for
the
last
10
months
we've
lived
in
a
state
of
uncertainty,
we
we
don't
know,
you
know,
will
I
or
someone
I
love
get
sick?
Are
my
job
and
investments
secure?
B
B
So
I
think
this,
the
the
feelings
of
uncertainty,
are
really
of
concern,
because
persistent
uncertainty
can
alter
the
brain's
architecture
and
increase
long-term
risks
of
depression
and
cognitive
impairment,
and
it
can
also
you
know,
change
your
thinking
alternate
your
alter
your
thinking
in
terms
of
having
you
be
less
likely
to
take
risks
less
likely
to
focus
on
the
future
and
positive
ways,
and
so
our
perceptions
of
time
change
and
the
present
seems
endless.
We
feel
cut
off
from
the
past
in
the
future.
B
I
mean
this
is
something
that
I
I
wake
up
every
day,
feeling
like
it's
groundhog
day
and,
and
you
know
just
our
feelings
and
big
and
bad
our
feelings
create,
and
our
and
ambiguity
ambiguity
creates
worry
and
unease,
and
we
know
from
research
that
waiting
for
the
outcomes
of
something
serious
like
a
biopsy
or
fertility
treatments
generates
more
anxiety
than
receiving
a
diagnosis
or
the
result
of
that.
So
is
this,
this
intense
and
persistent,
unrelenting
uncertainty
that,
I
think
is,
is
you
know,
problematic
and
troublesome.
A
That's
a
really
interesting
point.
So
what
advice
would
you
have
for
organizations,
including
me
as
the
mayor
of
evanston
and
leaders
of
other
organizations
out
there
who
you
know
want
to
take
care
of
their
people?
And
you
know
we
don't
want
false
hope
out
there
I
mean
yeah.
There's
this
great
news,
there's
a
vaccine
if
you
were
worried,
but
that
solution
isn't
coming
to
you
tomorrow
I
mean.
A
Maybe
it
is
if
you're
a
doctor
and
you
deal
with
covet
patients
but
like
that's
where
we
are
there's
a
priority
list
and
it
is
going
to
be.
You
know
many
months
until
some
people
get
this
and
I
don't
care
if
you're,
old
or
you're
young.
You
know
your
level
of
anxiety,
you
know,
may
vary,
and
it's
not
the
most.
You
know
the
people
that
feel
most
anxious,
you're
going
to
be
first
in
line
or
something
along
those
lines
to
try
and
you
know
help.
A
So
so
how
what
advice
would
you
have
for
organizations
for
how
we
manage
that
because,
again,
false
hope
is
not
something
that
we
want.
We
just.
We
really
want
to
communicate
honestly
and
get
a
message
through
to
people
that
you
know
the
pandemic's
not
over
yet
just
because
we
think
we
have
a
successful
vaccine
and
it's
been
tested
well
and
all
of
that
any
thoughts
there.
B
Well,
yeah,
so
I
would
talk
about
a
little
bit
about
there's
a
there
was
an
article
in
the
atlantic.
This
past
july
called
our
pandemic
summer.
It
was
written
by
ed
young
and
he
talks
about
a
formula
for
resilience
and
describes
what
he
called
the
stockdale
strategy,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that's
helpful.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
we
will
translate
this
to
an
organizational
context,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
this
with
you.
So
the
stocktail
strategy
goes
something
like
this.
B
How
did
he
get
through
it
and
he
observed
that
there
was
what
he
called
a
fatal
optimism
among
those
who
broke,
and
he
said
that
these
men
set
imaginary
deadlines
that
came
and
went
and
it
led
them
into
further
despair,
and
I
think
this
is
kind
of
a
point
of
inflection
here
that
if
we
set
arbitrary
deadlines,
like
I'm
going
to,
I'm
going
to
get
my
vaccine
in
march
and
march
comes
and
goes
and
you're
not
up
for
the
vaccine.
Yet
that
can
be
devastating
that
can
lead
lead
to
some.
B
You
know
feelings
of
despair,
so
the
stockdale
strategy
was
to
encourage
people
to
meld,
hope
and
realism
that
they
need
that.
We
all
need
to
have
an
unwavering
faith
that
we
will
prevail
and
and
meld
that
with
the
discipline
to
confront
the
brutal
facts.
So
we
all
know
what
the
proven
facts
are
we
all
as
you've
mentioned
mayor.
B
We
all
know
that
this
isn't
going
to
end
anytime
soon,
and
so
I
think
our
message
to
our
people,
the
organizations
is,
you
have
to
have
some
level
of
faith
and
you
have
to
be
realistic
about
you
know
when
this
is
going
to
end,
and
I
also
think
making
plans
is
helpful,
even
though
the
future
is
uncertain.
Planning
for
the
future
is
a
very
productive
way
to
reclaim
our
agency.
A
Yeah,
faith,
faith
and
facts
are
our
friend
and
are
important
and
again,
if
you're,
one,
that
is
really
feeling
some
despair
over
the
way
that
this
year
has
unfolded.
I
will
just
remind
you,
you
know
when
I
was
on
a
call
this
summer
with
dr
these
hundreds
of
others
of
mayors
around
the
country.
You
know
he
made
it
very
clear
that
the
risk
that
the
federal
government
is
taking
is
not
one
of
people's
health.
We
are
not
going
to
put
a
vaccine
out
there
that
is
unsafe.
He
was
very
clear
about
that.
A
He
said
if
we
don't
get
the
breaks
it
could
be.
You
know
the
fall
of
2021
before
we
have
something,
and
here
we
see
it
in
december
of
2020
with
not
one
but
three
vaccines,
two
that
have
been
approved
by
the
fda
now
here
in
this
country.
I
would
also
say
have
been
approved
by
other
countries,
which
I
think
should
give
you
a
sense
of
relief
that
it's
not
just
even
if
you're
like.
Well,
I
don't
trust
trump
and
everything
else.
A
We're
talking
many
other
developed
countries
who
have
experts
in
their
countries
and
everything
have
looked
at
these
vaccines
and
said.
Yes,
these
pests
are
pass
our
criteria
too
and
they're
bringing
them
to
the
market
for
their
for
their
citizens.
So
I
you
know,
I
think,
facts
and
you
know
faith
in
our
ability
to
solve
really
complex
problems
and
that
it
really
does
take
a
team
of
people
with
all
different
backgrounds.
To
do
that,
I
find
very
inspiring
when
I'm
just
a
little
down
about
boy.
A
Are
we
ever
going
to
get
through
here?
I
often
think
about
that,
and
it
helps
me
let's.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
about
the
just
the
resource
guide,
because
I
think
that's
a
terrific
document
that
you've
developed
and
I
do
think
and
know
that
there
are
people
that
are
in
some
despair
in
our
community
and
they
don't
know
where
to
they.
A
Could
we
put
that
into
the
facebook
feed
right
now
or
if
we
know
what
that
is,
could
that
be
shared
with
the
public
and
and
if,
if
either
of
our
guests,
don't
know
patrick
degnan
who's,
our
communications
director,
if
you
know
where
that
is
online,
if
we
could
put
that
out
here
for
folks,
patrick
I'd
appreciate
that
dr
gooden.
C
Yeah
we'd
love
for
it
to
be
shared,
so
I
think
that,
thank
you
thanks,
patrick,
so,
yes,
we'd
love
for
it
to
be
shared,
and
our
idea
was
really.
How
do
we
help
to
lower
the
barrier
to
access
care
right,
because
we
already
know
that
it's
hard
for
people
to
even
say
I
need
a
therapist
or
I
want.
I
want
some
support,
and
so
once
people
take
that
step,
we
want
it
to
be
really
easy
to
find
help
and
to
find
support
and
to
be
clear
like
who
do
you
call?
C
Where
do
you
call
what
kind
of
services,
because
you
know
we
have
the
evanston
care
network,
which
is
awesome?
It's
really
a
wealth
of
resources,
and
this
is
sort
of
information.
That's
taken
from
evanston
care
network
and
put
into
a
very
simple
format,
so
people
can
see
it
and
make
a
call
or
see
it
and
click
and
get
to
a
website
and
make
an
appointment
and
they
can
know.
Okay,
are
these
services
going
to
be
free?
C
Do
they
take
medicare
or
medicaid,
or
is
it
sliding
fee
scale
and
what
kind
of
services
are
they
offering?
And
so
we
really
do
hope
to
get
it.
You
know
shared
as
widely
as
possible
because
we
want
people
to
know
that
if
they
need
help,
they
can
access
it
and
there
are
affordable
ways
to
access
it
and
we
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
like
well.
I
would
love
therapy,
but
I
don't
have
insurance
or
don't
have
money
for
a
copay,
and
so
I
just
can't
do
anything
about
it.
A
You
know
dr
gooden,
sometimes
you
know
people
think
you
know
the
challenges
that
they're
facing
they're
facing
alone
they're,
the
only
ones
that
have
you
know
that
that
challenge
you
know
as
a
clinical
psychologist.
Could
you
talk
to
us
a
little
about
what
are
you
seeing
among
different
groups?
So
among
children?
Among
you,
know,
people
that
are
in
committed
relationships
among
you
know
older
residents.
I
think
that
would
be.
C
Yeah,
so
I
you
know,
I
think
one
of
the
things
I've
heard
a
lot
is
people,
you
know
my
clients
or
other
people
saying
well,
I'm
stressed
or
I'm
anxious
or
I'm
overloaded,
but
I
know
I'm
not
the
only
one.
So
maybe
I
shouldn't
feel
stressed-
and
I
think
the
reality
is-
is
that
it's
it's
normal
to
feel
stressed
in
this
situation.
Right
we
are
in
a
pandemic.
C
Most
of
us
have
never
lived
through
a
pandemic
before
maybe
some
centenarians
have
lived
through.
You
know
another
pandemic,
but
most
of
us
haven't
to
this
extent,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
that,
like
dr
somerville
was
talking
about
the
uncertainty
is
exhausting.
It
is
hard
to
make
plans
and
have
them
changed.
It
is
hard
not
to
know.
What's
going
to
happen,
I
think
you
know.
Families
with
young
kids
at
home,
trying
to
manage
e-learning
is
really
challenging
because
often
the
parents
are
working
they're
trying
to
manage
their
children's
e-learning.
C
The
kids,
some
kids
are
doing
fine
with
e-learning
and
some
kids
are
just
that's
not
how
they
want
to
learn.
It's
very
hard
to
stay
focused,
and
so
it's
frustrating.
They
can't
connect
to
their
friends
they're,
not
learning.
They
may
not
be
getting
the
support
that
they
need.
So
all
of
this
creates
a
lot
of
frustration
and
tension
in
within
families
within
individuals.
C
You
may
not
really
be
so
frustrated
at
your
partner
or
at
your
kid,
but
the
situation
is
frustrating
and
if
you
don't
have
time
to
sort
of
think
that
through
or
process
it
then
it
sort
of
comes
out
at
you
know,
being
upset
with
your
child
or
being
upset
with
your
partner
and
can
create
this
conflict
intention
and
that's
why
a
family
therapy
can
be
really
helpful.
Couples
therapy
can
be
really
helpful
just
to
have
another
space
where
someone's
saying
you
know
this
is
normal,
and
how
do
we
help?
C
You
communicate
a
lot
of
the
couples
that
I've
been
working
with?
There's
one
partner
who's,
much
more
conservative
in
terms
of
taking
risks
around
covid,
so
says:
yeah.
We,
you
know
we
can
eat
outside,
or
we
can
do
this
thing
and
another
partner
who
says
nope.
I
don't
want
to
do
anything,
I'm
really
anxious
about
it
and
that's
often
a
source
of
tension
right
is
which
you
know.
C
How
do
how
do
we
navigate
one
partner
wanting
one
thing
and
the
other
part
or
wanting
the
other
thing
without
any
very
clear
mandates
about
what
is
and
isn't
allowed?
And
so
you
know
couples
therapy
can
help
people
navigate
that
you
know
I've
heard
for
older
people
feeling
isolated
right.
I
think
you
know
the
elderly
are
often
already
isolated
and
whether
they
live
alone
or
in
you
know,
an
assisted
living
facility
not
being
able
to
see
family
or
friends
or
get
outside
and
connect
right.
C
That's
really
lonely
and
really
hard
and
not
underst,
maybe
not
always
understanding
if
somebody's
dealing
with
dementia
what's
going
on
or
why
they're
you
know
not
being
able
to
connect
or
go
out
or
do
the
normal
things
can
be
really
difficult,
and
so
I
think,
with
that
sort
of
support,
support
groups
can
be
really
helpful
and
opportunities
to
whether
connect
via
zoom
figuring
out
that
technology
can
be
really
helpful
to
mitigate
some
of
the
isolation
and
the
loneliness.
B
Wow,
I
don't
know
I
mean
that
was
that
was
a
lot
I'll.
Just
share
a
little
bit
of
research
that
I
had
done
prior
to
our
talk
today
that
the
national
association
of
school
psychologists
had
recommended
helping
children
cope
with
the
changes
resulting
from
covet
and
and
some
of
the
things
that
they
suggest
are,
and
this
is
for
younger
children
to
stay
calm
and
listen
and
offer
reassurance,
monitor
television,
viewing
and
social
media.
They
suggest
take
time
to
talk
to
your
child,
be
honest
and
accurate
and
keep
explanations
age-appropriate.
B
They
say
to
stay
connected
with
the
schools.
That's
that's
huge
because
you
know
also
the
parents
are
under
this
level
of
stress
of
not
only
figuring
out
their
relationships
with
their
significant
others,
but
having
their
relationships
with
their
children
ever
present
and
now
they're
being
expected
to
be
sort
of
a
quasi
teacher,
because
the
children
are
learning
at
home
and
needing
help
so
that
connection
with
the
school
is
important.
B
You
know
my
being
aware
that
your
child
being
aware
of
your
child's
mental
health
and
then
some
suggestions
that
came
from
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics
for
teens
included
things
like
work
together
to
create
a
new
normal
so
like
stick
to
a
schedule,
allow
dinner
to
be
a
transition
time
for
your
teen,
give
them
down
time.
That's
really
important
for
them
to
be
alone
and
communicate
honestly
and
openly
share
information
about.
What's
what
is
happening
and
stress?
Staying
at
home
saves
lives.
B
You
know
make
sure
that
they're
not
thinking
that
they
can
go
out
and
hang
out
with
their
friends
with
or
without
masks.
That's
not
good
and
help
your
team
to
look
forward
stay
connected
virtually
and
you
know,
with
your
family
members.
So
those
were
some
suggestions
from
those
organizations
that
I
thought
would
be
helpful
to
share.
A
Now
I'm
asking
for
a
friend
who,
in
his
family
the
tensions
are
highest
later
in
the
day,
and
you
know
he
wonders
hey.
Is
that
pretty
common,
but
it's
later
in
the
day
and
are
there
any
specific
techniques
because
you
know
everybody's
been
at
home,
you
know,
and
you
know
dinner
may
not
be
the
as
pleasant
as
it
was
before,
although
you
are
having
dinner
together,
so
I
guess
there's
some
talking
going
on,
but
you
know
have
you
heard?
Have
you
heard
you
know?
C
I
think
it's
taking
much
more
energy,
especially
if
you're
sort
of
managing
e-learning
and
managing
your
own
job
and
thinking
about
this
right,
there's
so
many
more
things
going
on,
because
we
many
of
us
are
working
from
home
and
we
don't
have
the
same
boundaries
about
from
between
work
and
home
that
we
used
to
so
everything
sort
of
gets
mixed
up
together
and
that's
hard,
and
so
then,
by
the
end
of
the
day,
you
sort
of
run
out
of
all
that
mental
and
emotional
energy.
C
You
had
to
be
polite
and
be
patient
and
be
gracious,
and
so
I
think
it
could
be
helpful
to
have
some
sort
of
buffer.
Where
you
know
everybody
is
on
a
timeout.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
punishment,
but
everybody
goes
to
their
rooms
like.
If
you
have
separate
spaces,
you
can
go
there
and
just
take
30
minutes
to
just
be
quiet,
be
alone.
If
you
don't
have
separate
spaces,
maybe
it's
putting
on
headphones
and
listening
to
music.
Maybe
it's
going
outside
for
a
walk.
I
actually
you
know
it's
it's.
C
It
doesn't
just
feel
like
an
extension
of
all
these
people
at
work
were
asking
me
for
all
of
these
things,
and
now
my
child
is
asking
me
for
a
thing
and
I'm
you
know.
Can
I
get
a
break
right
you've
taken
that
time,
and
I
realize
that
sometimes
that's
harder
to
organize
right.
If
you
have
little
kids,
it
might
be
harder
to
take
a
break
from
them.
C
I
know
when
I
was
a
toddler
my
mom
used
to
put
me
on
my
bed
with
all
my
stuffed
animals
and
say
you
don't
have
to
sleep
but
don't
get
off
the
bed,
and
that
was
her
break.
So
you
might
be
able
to
try
that
strategy,
but
some
trying
to
get
some
space
right,
trying
to
whether
it's
in
the
bathroom
or
for
a
walk
or
with
headphones,
getting
a
little
bit
of
a
mental
break
and
space,
I
think,
will
help
to
relieve
some
of
the
the
tension
that
can
build
over
the
course
of
the
day.
A
A
Feeling
to
to
have,
it
is
very,
is
very
normal,
but
if
that
feeling
is
really
affecting
your
ability
to,
you
know
be
the
person
you
want
to
be
or
to
get
things
done
and
be
productive
in
all
of
that
that
resource
guide
that
we
talked
about
a
few
minutes
ago,
I
wanted
to
share
with
people
where
you
can
find
it.
We
do
have
that
resource
guide,
and
this
is
a
mental
health
resource
guide
available
on
the
city's
website.
It
can
be
found
at
cityofevanston.org
forward,
slash,
covid
resources.
A
So
if
you
just
go
to
the
city's
covid
page,
look
at
covet
resources
and
you
will
find
that
there
and
it's
pretty
extensive
of
the
services
that
are
available
here.
A
We
are
fortunate
as
a
community
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
resources,
but
oftentimes
people
don't
know
necessarily
where,
where
to
look
and
find
that
I
wanna
I
wanna
turn
a
little
and
just
talk
about.
I
wanna
talk
about
grief
for
a
few
minutes
and
you
know
there's
a
lot.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
grieving
going
on
this
year.
Either
you
know
people
who
know
somebody
you
know
have
had
a
parent
or
grandparent
or
a
good
friend
that
has
died.
A
We
just
had
somebody
here
in
the
city
whose
father
died
at
64
of
covid.
Obviously
you
know
she
is
hurting
her
whole
family
is
just
shocked
by
this,
but
many
of
her
friends
and
acquaintances,
who
are
aware,
are
also
sort
of
caring,
caring
that,
even
though
they
didn't
necessarily
know
her
father,
I
think
that
that's
probably
pretty
common,
I'm
presuming
not
just
in
our
community
but
around
the
country.
A
So
can
we
talk
about
grief
for
a
little
bit
and
you
know
what
the
natural
you
know:
reactions
emotions
that
people
are
having
and
what
people
can
do
to
try
and
deal
with
that
and
overcome
that
in
this
environment,
particularly.
B
So
so
let
me
just
start
out,
I
think
you
know
grief
is
one
of
those
things
that
really
does
make
us
feel
self-isolated,
because
everyone
grieves
differently
and
we
all
have
sort
of
an
expectation
of
what
what
grief
should
look
like
and
how
we
should
engage
with
it.
But
the
truth
of
the
matter
is,
we
don't
know,
and
we
don't
know
how
another
person
is
experiencing
it.
B
You
know,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
this
this
time
warp
that
people
go
through
where
the
present
doesn't
end
is
a
very
common
one
with
grief,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
I
think
it's
important
to
just
to
not
have
expectations
of
ourselves
when
we're
feeling
a
sense
of
loss,
which
is
where
a
lot
of
where
grief
comes
from
the
loss
of
things
that
are
familiar
to
us
and
the
loss
of
the
ways
in
which
we
live
our
lives.
B
The
ways
that
we
show
up
now
is
different,
so
so,
even
for
those
of
us
who
haven't
lost
a
loved
one,
have
that
experience
of
loss
ourselves,
but
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
just
recognize
that
there
is
no
one
way
to
go
through
it.
There
is
no
one
answer
to
make
yourself
feel
better
you
for
some
people
living
in
in
the
grief
and
experiencing
it,
letting
it
wash
over
them
is
something
that
works
for
them
for
other
people.
C
Yeah-
and
I
would
just
add
that
you
know
grief,
the
grieving
process,
isn't
linear,
so
you
know
people
might
sort
of
expect.
Okay,
it's
been
three
weeks
or
it's
been
four
weeks,
so
I
should
be
done
with
it
or
I
felt
better
last
week
and
now
I
feel
like
I'm
grieving
again
and
so
just
to
know
that
there
can
be
sort
of
ebbs
and
flows
with
grief
is
important,
and
I
really
echo
what
dr
somerville
was
saying
about.
C
You
know
sort
of
being
compassionate
and
knowing
that
there
isn't
a
right
way
to
grieve.
I
think
one
of
the
really
challenging
things
related
to
covid
is
that
it's
really
hampered
our
collective
grieving.
I
think
there's
something
really
powerful
and
significant
about
being
able
to
have
an
in-person
funeral
or
memorial
service,
and
I
know
that
people
have
gotten
creative
with
zoom
services,
and
you
know
things
like
that
which
is
helpful,
but
there's
something
about
being
in
person,
hugging
people
being
hugged.
C
You
know
lamenting,
crying
and
honoring
the
memory
of
someone
that
is
healing,
and
I
think
it's
really
hard
that
people
don't
have
access
to
that
in
the
same
way
that
we
would
during
normal
times.
So
that's
just,
I
think,
useful,
to
acknowledge
and
I
would
encourage
people
to
think
about
what
are
the
ways
that
they
want
to
honor
the
person
that
they
have
lost,
even
if
it
can't
be
in
the
way
they
wish
it
was
right
now.
C
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
my
grand
my
father
said
to
me
with
my
grandmother
passed
away.
Was
that
my
grief,
my
tears
and
she
didn't
pass
away
this
year,
honored
her
right.
C
Oh
there's
something
wrong
with
me
or
I
should
get
over
it.
No,
this
person
was
important
to
you
or
this.
This
person
represented
something
even
if
it
wasn't
your
family,
member
and
so
giving
yourself
space
for
that
and
finding
other
creative
ways
to
connect
with
other
other
people
who
are
grieving
can
be
helpful.
A
Thank
you,
dr
gooden.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
grieving
going
on
this
year
with
the
loss
of
traditions,
so
there's
the
true
grieving
you've
lost
somebody,
and
you
can't
have
that
memorial
service
or
that
funeral,
which
is
a
part
of
our
tradition
as
a
as
a
culture,
and-
and
I
see
that
right
now
and
I
do
worry-
and
I
even
feel
this
personally,
a
little
that
you
know
there
are
and
my
family's
christian
we're
catholic
and
everything.
A
So
there
are
certain
traditions
right
this
time
of
year,
like
it's,
my
family's
annoying,
it's
a
little.
Maybe
I
like
to
listen
to
christians
using
all
the
time,
so
I
would
have
it
on
all
all
the
time,
but
you
know
for
my
wife:
it's
going
to
church
on
christmas
eve
or
chris
or
christmas
day,
and
all
the
pageantry
and
everything
around
that
and
that's
a
big
family
tradition,
and
you
know
hanukkah
just
started
last
week,
there's
a
lot
of
tradition
around
that
and
families
getting
together
and
we're
not
able
to
this
year.
A
And
so
you
know,
I
think
that
clearly,
you
know,
has
an
impact
on
people's.
You
know
well-being
and
how
they're
and
how
they're
feeling
at
this
at
this
moment,
but
again
I
I
think
it's
the
hope,
you
know
and
the
optimism
that's
really
important
for
us
to
realize
this.
Isn't
you
know
perpetual?
You
know
this
isn't
in
perpetuity.
A
You
know
it's
going
to
change.
It
may
look
different
when
we
finally
get
through
this
pandemic,
and
that
is
is
a
helpful
exercise
when
you're.
In
this
that
stage,
we
had
a
question
from
mark
who
asked.
Has
there
been
a
documented
increase
in
mental
health
issues
linked
to
lockdowns
and
other
efforts
to
contain
the
virus?
B
Yeah
there
has
been
some
research.
There
was
a
study
done
at
the
university
of
san
diego
that
looked
at
sort
of
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
on
individuals
and
some
of
the
outcomes
of
this
particular
research
were
that
people
were
eight
times
eight
times
as
likely
to
scream
positive
for
a
serious
mental
illness
since
the
pandemic
began,
and
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
participants
in
the
study,
70
percent,
met
the
criteria
for
moderate
to
severe
mental
illness
compared
to
22
percent
prior
to
the
pandemic.
B
B
Yeah
younger
adults
44,
maybe
is
on
that
borderline,
but
anyway
so
yeah
they
experienced
the
tenfold
increase
in
serious
mental
distress
and
then,
interestingly
enough
adults,
60
and
older
had
the
smallest
increase
in
serious
mental
health
issues
related
to
the
pandemic.
B
They
found
that
the
depression
among
18
to
25
year
olds,
that
it
was
that
it
has
been
exacerbated,
of
course,
as
we
would
expect
by
the
pandemic,
so
that
was
that
was
just
one
study.
There
are
many.
I
think
there
are
many
studies
out
there,
but
that
was
one
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
you.
A
And
I
think
again,
this
gets
to
well
a
question
for
dede
and
her
question
is:
when
does
the
city
expect
that
things
will
go
back
to
normal?
So
let's
just
talk
about
norm.
Let's
just
talk
about
normal
and
what
what's
you
know
what's
normal?
I
think
people
are
saying
well,
normal
is
what
it
was
like.
You
know,
pre-pandemic
that
was
that
was
that
was
normal
and
you
know
there's
this
uncertainty.
If
we
ever
go
back,
you
know
there
there's
an
uncertainty
over.
How
long
are
we
going
to
have
to
wear
masks?
A
C
Yeah,
you
know
it's
it's
hard,
I
think,
probably
at
the
essence
of
normal
is
when
will
I
not
have
to
worry
about
this?
When
can
I
make
plans
and
be
entrusted
I'll
be
able
to
they'll
come
to
fruition?
When
can
I
go
out
and
see
people
without
worrying
about
the
risk?
When
can
I
just
be
more
at
ease
right?
C
When
will
we
not
be
all
cooped
up
in
the
house
together,
and
I
you
know,
I
think
it's
been
useful
to
sort
of
think
about
what
are
the
things
that
we
maybe
don't
want
to
go
back
to
that
were
normal
before
that
we
might
not
want,
but
I
I
think
that
people
want
to
have
a
sense
of
I
can
just
leave
my
house
without
worrying.
I
can
just
get
together
with
people.
I
can
just
know.
C
What's
gonna
happen,
this
uncertainty
won't
be
so
overbearing
and
I
think
that's
what
people
want
relief
from
is
is
all
of
the
uncertainty
is
all
the
feeling
like
everything
is
a
risk
and
the
exhaustion
of
it
all,
and
so
I,
though
I
my
hope
would
be
that
once
the
vaccine
is
more
widely
administered
and
it's
sort
of
clear,
this
is
how
you
keep
yourself
safe
and
your
family
safe
that
even
if
people
are
still
wearing
masks-
and
even
if
you
know
the
vaccine
is
still
being
rolled
out,
that
people
feel
a
little
bit
more
at
ease
that
people
feel
like.
C
A
A
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
inject
that
as
you're
thinking
about
this.
This
question
from
dee
dee.
B
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
I
agree
with
both
of
you
that
this
idea
of
normal
one
it
doesn't
exist
and
two
I
mean
it's
something
that
we
think
about,
but
it
doesn't
really
exist,
but
secondly,
it's
our
feeling
of
what's
familiar
to
us.
B
That,
I
think,
is
the
closest
thing
that
that
we
could
come
to
what
feels
normal
is
what
feels
familiar,
and
I
I
don't
know
I
I
was.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
a
conversation
with
a
couple
of
members
of
the
community,
our
black
and
brown
community
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
we
asked
the
people
that
joined
us
in
this
conversation.
B
Do
does
life
seem
more
complicated
or
more
simple,
since
the
pandemic
began,
and
I
was
surprised
at
what
people
said,
because
many
people
said
it
was
far
more
complicated
and
but
there
were
also
a
handful
of
us
and
I'm
going
to
put
myself
in
this
category
said
that
it's
life
has
become
more
simplistic,
and
so
I
think
it's
it's
sort
of
how
we
look
at
our
environment
and
our
world.
So
for
me
that
simplicity
is
I
get
up
in
the
morning
and
I'm
at
home.
All
day
long,
I
do
my
work.
B
I
sit
in
the
same,
mostly
the
same
chair
all
of
my
routines.
All
of
the
way
in
which
I
show
up
every
day
is
the
same,
and
there
isn't
a
lot
of
variation
in
that
theme
for
the
people
who
felt
that
life
was
much
more
complicated,
they
said
it's
when
you
go
to
the
store,
you
have
to
make
sure
you
have
your
mask.
You
have
to
make
sure
your
social
distancing.
B
You
have
to
make
sure
this
and
this
and
this
and
this
that
the
health
experts
are
telling
us
wash
things
off
clean,
wash
your
hands
constantly.
You
know
all
of
these
new
things,
so
I
again
that's
the
unfamiliar
that
made
made
their
lives
to
them
feel
far
more
complicated.
So
it's
just
it's
an
interesting
thing
to
think
about,
and
I
think
it's
different
in
all
of
our
it's
different
for
everyone,
but
it's
different.
That
sort
of
concept
is
different
in
our
different
communities
as
well.
A
Great
all
right,
I
want
to
wrap
up
where
we're
at
the
end
of
our
time
today
with
a
question
for
each
of
you
and
I'll
answer
it
as
well
at
the
at
the
very
end.
Before
I
close
our
session
we
mentioned
at
the
beginning
or
during
the
session,
it
is
normal
for
us
all
to
have.
A
You
know
low
points
and
stress
and
tension,
even
more
so
this
year,
with
the
uncertain
year
and
difficult
year
that
it's
been
for
all
of
us
so
going
into
you
know
recognizing
that
we
all
have
those
you
know
moments
whether
you're
a
you
know,
psychologist
or
a
mayor.
You
know
what
what
gets
you
through
those
you
know
those
moments
in
your
life,
we'll
start
with
you,
dr
summerville,
and
then
dr
good.
B
Wow,
so
I
think
I
think
it's
just.
I
think
about
the
fact
that
this
is
a
moment
in
time.
This
is
this.
The
kinds
of
things
that
I'm
experiencing
right
now
are
not.
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
be
experiencing
forever.
I
do.
I
have
my
routines
that
I
enjoy.
I
do
too
listen
to
christmas
music.
I
love
christmas
music.
I
try
to
exercise,
I
you
know
I
try
to
I
try
to.
I
enjoy
my
christmas
tree.
B
I
I
find
that
I'm
reaching
out
more
to
friends
than
I
used
to,
and
I
think
that
the
connections
that
I'm
making
are
really
valuable.
In
that
regard,
I
think
it's
the
connectedness,
that's
probably
getting
me
through
the
difficult
feelings.
More
than
anything
else,.
A
Great
thank
you,
dr
summerville,
and
thank
you
for
all
of
your
work,
helping
lead
the
the
mental
health
working
group
for
the
pandemic
task
force.
Dr
gooden.
C
Yeah,
so
I
would,
I
agree
with
relationships.
Friendships
you
know
connecting
deeply
and
intentionally
has
been
really
helpful,
being
really
kind
and
compassionate
with
myself.
When
I
have
hard
moments-
and
you
know,
I'm
struggling,
has
been
really
helpful
and
then
for
me
meditating
every
day
and
trying
to
exercise
frequently
and
take
walks
when
I
can
and
then
practicing
gratitude
looking
for
things
that
are
going
well
and
are
positive
and
focusing
on
them.
A
Great
great
well,
I
have
one
thing
in
common
with
that,
dr
goodwin,
which
is
walking
my
dog,
so
we
got.
We
got
a
puppy
back
in
august
of
2019
about
six
months
before
the
before
the
pandemic,
and
he
has
been
such
a
great
addition
to
the
family.
I
think
he,
you
know,
definitely
helps
us,
reduce
some
family
stress
and,
and
all
of
that,
but
the
other
thing
that
for
me,
you
know,
inspires
me.
It
just
makes
me
feel
positive.
A
When
I
may
be
a
little
low
is
I
really
do
think
that
you
know,
despite
the
challenges
that
that
we
have
confronted
with
this
virus
and
some
of
the
decisions
that
we
may
look
at
and
be
very
upset
about.
A
For
instance,
if
you
feel
strongly
that
hey,
we
should
all
be
wearing
masks
which
I
feel
strongly
about.
We
are
doing
a
great
job
here
in
evanston
about
that,
but
some
people
don't
including
the
president
of
the
united
states,
if
you're
frustrated
about
that
or
whatever
it's
understandable,
I
unders-
I
get
it,
but
I
think
that
you
know
I
am
just
inspired
by
the
interrelatedness
of
all
of
us.
That
is
front
and
center
right
now
that
everybody
is
essential,
you
may
have
started
the
year
thinking.
A
Oh,
you
know
what
scientists
and
doctors
they're
really
essential
and
no
doubt
they
they
are.
I
mean
they're,
helping
us,
you
know,
but
so
is
the
grocery
store
clerk
you
know,
so
is
the
delivery
driver
that
keeps
coming
to
your
house?
You
know
with
packages
or
food,
so
are
all
of
these
volunteers
that
are
stepping
up.
You
know
to
feed
those
that
that
are
struggling
right
now,
so
are
all
of
those
that
have
some
money
in
their
wallets
and
are
turning
it
over
to
an
organization
to
help
to
help
people.
A
So
I
find
that
incredibly
inspi
inspiring
that
we
all
have
to
work
together
to
get
through
this,
that
everybody
is
sacrificing.
That
sacrifice
hasn't
been
the
same.
A
Certainly,
there
are
big
disparities
in
that,
but
everybody
is
is,
has
a
stake
in
this
and
we
are
going
to
get
through
this
and
we,
you
know,
have
faced
difficult
times
before
as
a
community
as
a
country
as
a
world,
and
we
have
always
gotten
through
it,
and
I
see
nothing
to
make
me
think
that
we're
not
going
to
get
through
it
again
and
again,
the
good
news
this
month
with
the
vet
with
the
vaccines.
A
So
I
think
there's
lots
to
feel
good
about
and
be
inspired
about
despite
the
year
that
we've
all
that
we've
all
been
through.
I
appreciate
both
of
you
for
taking
the
time
to
join
us
today.
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
this
be
our
last
coronavirus.
Q,
a
for
2020.,
as
I
mentioned,
we
will
do
another
one
in
january
to
kick
off
2021
and
that
one
we
will
focus
on
vaccines.
We'll
know
much
more
about
the
vaccine
distributions
here
here
locally.
A
We
are
waiting
right
now
to
get
our
first
fulfillment
of
vaccines
that
are
going
to
go
to
the
front
line
medical
healthcare
workers
who
are
literally
working
with
covid
patients.
A
So
we're
going
to
be
getting
that
shortly
and
again,
every
community
is
getting
them
they're,
not
huge
amounts,
it'll
be
less
than
a
thousand
that
we
get
here
in
evanston,
but
we'll
go
to
our
frontline
healthcare
workers,
who
have
been
huge
heroes
this
year
in
saving
lives
and
taking
care
of
so
many
of
us.
So
I
wish
everybody.
A
happy
holiday
season,
take
good
care
of
yourselves.
Both
your
physical
health,
your
mental
health,
take
care
of
your
family.
Take
care
of
your
friends,
we'll
see
everybody
in
2021.