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Schner,
I
did
remember
kano
get
on
the
meeting.
G
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A
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F
D
A
All
right,
we
have
we'll
go
through
the
business,
new
and
old
business
in
a
moment.
If
you
would
like
to
provide
public
comment
to
any
of
these
items,
please
send
me
a
message
via
the
chat
or
when
the
item.
When
I
acknowledge
public
comment,
please
use
the
hand,
raise
your
hand
icon,
but
the
chat
is
a
little
easier
for
me
to
manage
in
terms
of
make
sure
that
we
get
through
things.
So
first
item
of
business
is
old
business,
584
lincoln
street.
A
The
sign
variation
they've
asked
to
hold
this,
so
I
don't
think
we
need
any
we're,
not
getting
any
motion
to
hold
or
anything
like
that,
we'll
just
we'll
just
bring
it
back
up
when
they're
they're
ready
to
bring
it
back.
A
Next
item
is
new
business
3434
central
street.
This
is
a
concept
review.
Charles
marla
seeks
a
concept
review
for
a
proposed
plan
development.
The
proposed
plan
development
is
to
demolish
the
existing
unity
church
on
the
north
shore
and
to
construct
a
new
two-story,
20,
000
square
foot,
building
for
daycare,
child
center,
child
kensington
school
and
the
r2
single
family
residential
district,
three
site
plan.
Alternatives
have
been
provided
so
again.
What
we'll
do
is,
if
you
have
any
comments,
please
or
if
you'd
like
to
provide
a
public
comment.
A
Just
send
me
a
message
in
the
chat
we'll
go
through
staff
comments
after
the
applicant's
presentation.
This
is
for
concept
only
there's,
no
there's
no
application
before
us
right
now,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
chuck.
I
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
do
it
or
if
one
of
the
other
team
members
is
going
to
walk
through
this,
but
I
want.
J
J
Yeah,
I
can
do
it
hi
everybody
nice
to
be
here
again.
We
are
giving
this
another
try
after
our
unsuccessful
attempt
at
on
hurt
street,
but
we're
very
excited
about
this
location.
It's
looking
like
it's,
it's
giving
us
a
lot
more
room
to
work
with
a
little
bit
a
much
busier
intersection
and
it
just
seems
a
more
suitable
site
for
kensington
school
we've
spoken
to
staff
a
little
bit
about
our
site
plan.
J
They've
asked
that
we
give
three
different
variations
of
our
site
plan
and,
and
we've
done
so.
The
most
important
thing
here
is
that
you
know
I.
I
think
that,
with
this
application
we
are
really
looking
only
for
some
minor
relief,
and
that
is
with
this
fence
and
perhaps
some
required
playground
equipment.
Other
than
that.
I
believe
that
we
we're
satisfactorily
parked.
We
have
met
our
height
requirements,
our
setbacks,
our
open
space,
our
you
know,
impervious
space,
our
impervious
all
that
kind
of
thing.
J
We
have
one
real
issue
here,
not
a
real
issue,
but
one
thing
to
really
be
cognizant
of,
and
that
is
that
the
apartment
complex
to
the
south
currently
shares
an
easement
across
access
easement
with
the
church
for
access
to
their
little
parking
strip
to
the
south
of
this
property.
Currently
it
runs
down
the
middle
of
of
unity,
church's
property
and
in
all
three
of
our
site
plan,
schematics
we've
asked
and
they've
agreed,
I
believe,
to
have
us
move
this
furthest
to
the
west.
J
The
main
reason
being
with
this
is
that
you
know,
as
this
is
a
child
care
center,
we've
got
obviously
a
lot.
A
lot
of
young
children
ages,
infant
through
five
or
six
in
this
parking
lot
we're
not
as
concerned
about
the
infants,
the
toddlers,
but
at
times
the
two-year-old
through
the
five
or
six-year-old
population.
J
They
are
walking
through
that
parking
lot,
accompanied
by
a
mother
or
father
a
guardian,
and
we
really
do
like
to
maintain
some
control
over
the
traffic
in
our
parking
lot.
It's
not
to
say
that
you
know
we
can
control
every
parent
as
they
drive
through
it.
We
can't,
but
we
really
wanted
to
not
have
the
you
know
the
neighbors
to
the
south
have
actual
access
to
where
the
where
our
patrons
park
and
where
those
children
will
be
getting
in
and
out
of
their
parents
or
guardians
cars.
J
So
that
was
why
we
moved
this
ingress,
egress
driveway
furthest
to
the
left.
We
feel
it's.
The
best
way
to
you
know
get
the
folks
that
live
to.
You
know
the
neighbors
to
their
to
their
parking
spaces
for
their
homes,
as
well
as
give
us
a
little
bit
more
exclusivity
inside
our
parking
lot
to
ensure
a
little
bit
more
safety
of
those
children
and
families
as
they
move
in
and
out
of
our
parking
spaces.
J
You
know,
aside
from
that,
the
three
schematics
that
we
looked
at
you
know
are:
all
you
know,
scheme
one
and
two
are
fairly
similar
and
that
they
they
work
very
closely
with
the
parking
lot
scheme,
two
really
fronts,
the
building
on
central
street.
It's
actually
my
favorite.
It
looks
like
it
belongs
on
that
block
a
little
more
than
you
know.
J
If
the
building
were
facing
the
parking
lot,
which
is
scheme
one
scheme
three,
which
is
the
building
facing
gross
point,
while
it
may
look
the
best
as
you're
traveling
up
and
down
gross
point,
it
doesn't
work
nearly
it
doesn't
work
at
all
for
our
families.
You
know
getting
into
the
building
which
is
in
the
front
of
which
would
be
facing
gross
point.
The
front
doors
would
be
really
difficult,
especially
in
snowy
rainy
days.
J
J
It's
it's
really
optimal
for
us
to
have
one
point
of
ingress
and
egress
into
our
building
for
safety
and
security
and
to
you
know
not
have
that
you
know
facing
gross
point
and
in
scheme
three
really
wouldn't
work.
So
these
are
the
three
plans
that
we
have.
You
know
I
love
one
and
two,
but
from
a
from
a
zoning
perspective,
I
feel,
aside
from
the
special
use
that
we
need
inside
this
r2.
J
The
only
relief
I
believe
we
could
be
looking
for
would
be
to
have
some
relief
as
it
relates
to
the
the
fence
and
the
playground
being
technically
in
the
front
yard
out
at
gross
point.
This
is
a
really
difficult
sight
to
ascertain:
front
yard,
rear
yard,
side,
yard,
etc,
etc.
It's
a
super
unusual
shape,
and
you
know
if
this
were
more
of
a
right
angle.
You
know
out
on
gross
point
in
central.
J
I
think
we'd
have
a
much
better
time
with
it,
but
we
are
trying
to
do
as
best
we
can
to
become
a
part
of
evanston
and
we're
happy.
This
site
became
available
so
shortly
after
our
our
failed
attempt
on
herd
street.
But
aside
from
that,
I
welcome
any
commentary
from
staff.
I've
got
my
architect
with
me.
Lance
lauderdale
he's
he's
able
to
answer
any
questions
as
well.
J
I
know
there'll
be
some
traffic
issues
that
we
want
to
study,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
I'd
be
happy
to
bring
the
rest
of
our
consultants,
engineers
and
such
in
you
know.
Once
we
get
a
little
bit
further
down
the
road.
If
we
do
so
that's
pretty
much
all
I
have
for
now.
A
Great
staff
comments
or
questions.
K
Why
are
you
so
attached
to
the
single
configuration
of
your
building.
J
It's
not
an
attachment
as
much
it
is
as
it
is.
These
are
all
very
small
sites,
stevenston.
Unfortunately,
you
know
the
site
that
we
had
on
herd
street.
This
building
seemed
to
fit
well
on
it.
When
this
site
became
available,
we
really
we
kind
of
worked
backwards
from
a
you
know.
What
does
this
site
need
parking
and
ingress
and
egress
that
that
access
and
easement
to
our
our
neighbors
to
the
south,
this
building
doesn't
need
to
be
a
rectangle.
J
It
can
be
a
square,
it
can
be
a
little
bit
longer.
It
can
be
a
little
bit
shorter,
but
it
definitely
needs
to
be
two
stories.
We
know
that
much
for
certain
right
now
from
an
interior
layout
perspective
it'd
be
difficult
to
make
it
a
trapezoid
to
fit
that
that
strange,
hard
corner
so
we're
doing
our
best
to
try
and
make
it
work
inside
the
confines
of
these
setbacks
and
the
you
know
obscure
nature
of
the
shape
of
this
property.
J
Yeah,
well,
we
have
an
issue
where
parking
can
only
be
in
the
rear
yard.
So,
with
gross
point
being
the
front,
the
rear
then
becomes
kind
of
where
it
is.
You
know
I
I
don't.
If
we
tried
putting,
you
know
the
school,
where
the
parking
is
we're
not
able
to
put
the
parking
where
the
school
currently
is.
J
If
you
get
johanna,
if
you
could
go
to,
can
you
go
to
the
layout
number
two,
perhaps
seeing
or
one
seeing
that
those
are?
Perhaps
the
the
two
we'd
prefer
to
to
to
apply
for
here?
J
This
is
the
one
that
that
that
perhaps
works
the
best
you
know
truly
the
best
for
our
families
would
be
number
one
where
they
could,
where
the
building
could
be
right
in
front
of
the
parking
and
they
could
park
and
walk
right
in
that
be
more
traditional,
similar
to
other
locations
of
ours,
where
the
parking
lot
really
is
right
in
front
of
the
schools,
but
you
know
we
kind
of
have
to
work
with
the
size
and
the
shape
of
this.
This
strange
lot.
J
F
It's
going
to
be
several
feet
most
likely
at
least
the
bottom.
The
southern
playground
equipment
up
top
yeah
it
might
encroach
on
it
might
not,
but
probably
would.
J
Now
mind
you,
with
with
playground,
equipment
in
child
care,
centers
keep
please
keep
in
mind
that
we're
required
to
have
a
six
foot
fall
zone
perimeter
around
the
entire
play
structure.
So
imagine
if
you
would
that
this
south
in
this
scheme,
let's
say
the
southernmost
play
area-
is
a
big
jungle
gym,
let's
say
right
surrounding
that
is,
has
to
be
six
feet
of
of
fall
surface,
which
is
tan
bark
or
compost
material.
J
So
the
play
structure
itself
wouldn't
be
right
up
against
the
edge
of
that
27
foot
easement
or
that
fence
where
it
would
where
it
would
land
right
now,
if
shown,
if
you
know,
if
constructed
where
it
would
be
shown,
instead
we'd
be
six
feet
off
of
that
rectangle
and
you
know,
as
we
continue
to
move
this
ball
further
down
the
field,
I'd
be
able
to
show
you
know
different
configurations
for
those
those
various
play
structures
and
with
those
fall
radii.
J
You
know
where
they'd
land,
but
this
is
just
for
you
know
illustrative
purposes.
Only
you
know
the
biggest
benefit
for
us
would
be
able
to
construct
would
be
for
us
to
be
able
to
construct
that
fence,
which
would
be
probably
you
know,
a
four
foot
white
scalloped
picket
fence
in
that
you
know,
on
that
property
line
and
for
anybody
that's
so
inclined.
We
have
that
we
have
an
example
of
that
fence
at
our
glenview
location.
J
I'm
sure,
if
you
did
a
google
street
view
drive
by
you
could
see
what
we're
talking
about.
If,
if
you
didn't
want
to
drive
over
there.
B
From
my
perspective,
I
think
that
I'm
not
particularly
married
to
any
particular
building
orientation
I'll
leave
that
to
the
planners
in
what
should
face
the
different
streets.
But
I
do
think
it's
really
critical
to
have
the
controlled
access
for
dropping
your
child
off
and
picking
your
child
up
from
the
door
closest
to
the
parking
lot.
B
What
I
really
don't
like
is
the
idea
that
there's
a
main
entrance
where
people
can
bring
their
children
directly
off
of
either
central
or
gross
point
road
to
drop
off
their
kids,
because
I
think
that
will
lead
to
more
traffic
issues
along
central
or
gross
point
road,
as
people
run
in
and
out
and
try
to
do
things
quickly.
I
think
it's
probably
better
to
have
all
of
that
occurring
within
the
parking
lot
and
within
the
property.
J
Yeah,
I
kind
of
I
would
agree
with
you
with
with
with
regard
to
the
to
the
acts
to
the
driveway.
Having
the
playgrounds
in
the
front
of
the
building
really
operationally
is
very,
very
difficult.
We've
never
done
it
before
soon.
So
in
50
odd
years,
we've
never
put
a
playground
in
front
of
the
building
operationally
it's
just
not.
J
You
know,
I
don't
think
it
would
work
really,
but
yeah
I'd
say,
scheme
one
or
scheme
two,
as
I
mentioned
before,
you
know
the
one
thing,
as
you
may
recall,
from
our
previous
application
on
herd
street
here
we
do
require
the
parents
park
and
walk
their
children
in
this,
isn't
a
typical
preschool
where
parents
stay
in
their
cars
and
and
the
children
are
ferried
in
and
out
into
the
into
the
cars
like
a
more
traditional
morning
or
pm
preschool
program
from
a
child
care
center
perspective.
B
I
you
know,
I
think,
that's
an
interesting
point,
but
I
still
think
that
that
interaction
should
be
the
building
needs
to
be
situated,
such
that
the
main
the
controlled
entrance
for
parents
to
walk
their
kids
in
and
pick
their
kids
up
really
needs
to
be
the
entrance
closest
to
the
parking
lot.
Not.
It
should
not
be
an
entrance
that
is
facing
one
of
the
streets.
L
I
I
agree
with
laura
on
that,
and
also
another
concern
would
be
during
the
winter
during
snow
removal.
You
know,
a
lot
of
our
trucks
would
be
making
several
passes
down
that
street.
We
can't
have
any
build
buildup
of
vehicles
and
we
also
more
than
likely
will
be
storing
some
snow
along
that
curb
line
there,
possibly
putting
some
hazardous
conditions
for
anybody
exiting
and
entering
their
vehicles.
J
Yeah
I
mean
this
was
our
scheme.
One
was
our
original
scheme.
We
were
asked
to
provide
a
scheme
showing
fronting
central,
which
I
actually
do.
I
like
from
a
perspective
of
you,
know
the
building.
Looking
as
if
it
were,
you
know
it
belongs
there
or
you
know
it
was
part
of
was
part
of
that
road.
For
a
long
time,
and
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I'm
not
I'm
not
liking
the
the
gross
point
frontage
at
all,
really
from
an
operational
perspective,
I
don't.
E
K
Just
like
note
that
there
is
a
water
main,
it
goes
underneath
the
parking
lot
area
to
that
residential
development
to
the
south
as
well
so
you'll
have
to
watch.
K
Yeah,
it's
it's
more
on
the
eastern
easterly
side
of
the
parking
lot,
but
I'll
I'll
be
able
to
give
you
a
better.
B
And
then
just
to
like
kind
of
revisit
the
play
equipment
piece
again,
I'm
a
little
wary
about
play,
equipment
located
along
gross
point
road,
and
the
reason
is,
although
I
I
understand
you
have
you
have
like
the
clear
buffer
zone
you're
going
to
fence
the
area
during
snow
operations,
especially
there
just
seem
gross
point.
Road
is
a
fast-moving
street
and
the
plow
operation
on
it
is
frequent.
We're
throwing
a
lot
of
salt
on
green
bay,
road
or
on
gross
point
road.
B
Sorry,
I
know
you
guys
really
try
to
conserve
salt,
but
it's
it's
unrealistic
to
think
that
in
the
middle
of
snow
operations,
that
the
intrusion
of
salt
and
snow
and
debris
isn't
going
to
get
into
your
property
as
quickly
as
we
go
up
and
down
green
bay,
road.
E
B
I
think
there
may
be
some
maintenance
impacts
for
your
operations
for
play
equipment
even
with
the
setback-
and
I
know,
there's
a
setback.
It's
actually
a
pretty
generous
setback,
but
we've
all
seen
that
on
the
arterial
roads
the
snow
operation
can
get
pretty
intense
and
have
impacts
on
the
private
property.
J
Yeah,
well,
the
setbacks
27
feet
either
way
and
that's
all
going
to
be
grass
and
plantings
and
landscape.
You
know.
Obviously
there
won't
be
any
children
playing
on
those
play
structures
in
the
middle
of
winter,
especially
when
there's
you
know
probably
snow
plows
going
up
and
down
down
the
road.
They
typically
just
go
out
there
and
stomp
around
in
the
snow,
but
yeah
we'll
keep.
We
will
definitely
keep
that
in
mind.
J
E
H
J
All
one
big
play
area
we
do
ten,
we
do
tend
to
have
an
infant
yard
like
an
infant
toddler
yard
and
then
a
twos
and
older
yard.
We
don't
you
know
five-year-olds
and
infants,
don't
play
well
together
to
too
often,
especially
when
they're
on
the
same
kind
of
play,
structure.
J
The
environments
for
the
kids
are
both
age
specific.
So
one
of
those
two
locations
would
typically
be
an
infant
yard,
an
infant
through
toddler
yard
and
the
other
one
would
be
a
twos
and
up
location
in
some
of
our
spots
like
in
our
glenview
school,
for
example,
we've
we've
got,
you
know
two
and
a
half
acres
out
there.
We've
actually
set
up
a
separate
yard
within
a
yard,
with
a
fence
to
create
a
separate.
You
know
entirely
separate
environment
for
those
younger
kids,
so
you
know
to
directly
answer
your
question.
J
One
of
those
two
play
structures,
call
it
the
the
circle
or
the
rectangle
would
be
the
smaller
climber
for
little
kids.
The
other
would
be
a
larger
climber
for
bigger
kids.
A
I
did
happen
to
go.
Look
at
the
street
view
of
the
glenview
location.
I
don't
know
if
this
fence
is
quite
the
aesthetic
we
would
expect
in
evanston
it's
a
little.
I
just
maybe,
let's
think
a
little
bit
about
different
about
fencing.
We
don't
normally
have
it's
kind
of
a
bright.
A
We
generally
don't.
We
want
more
transparency
and
I
realize
that's
not
ideal
for
kids,
but
there's
we
have
parks
where
we
have
use
different
kind
of
fencing
that
you
know
keeps
kids
in
spaces
and
keeps
people
in
spaces.
This
might
just
be
a
little
bit
too
sure.
J
A
And
then
I
don't,
I
know
this
is
just
concept,
but
just
might
bring
this
up.
It'd
be
great
to
have
some
kind
of
bike,
parking
or
bike
area
of.
E
A
I
I
think,
almost
every
day
care
child
care
space
in
evanston
you
see
people
riding
their
bikes
and
bringing
kids
to
the
schools
with
bikes.
It's
a
pretty
popular
thing
right
now:
the
electric
bikes
and
the
little
the
seats
yep.
J
We
had
that
our
we
had
a
we
had
bike,
a
bike
parking
provision
on
hurt
street.
That
was
an
oversight
on
this
early
schematic.
I'm
sure
you
know
there's
more
than
enough
room
here
to
do
a
pretty
a
pretty
substantial
bicycle
parking
area
here.
Fortunately,
so
we
can
do
that.
A
And
then
I
I
just
like:
oh
everybody
else's
comments
about
moving
the
the
play
equipment
off
this
off
gross
that
corner
maybe
close
to
the
building.
If,
if
this
third
scheme
isn't
the
best
option-
and
I
think
that
that
sort
of
covers
my
comments,
anything
in
terms
of
I
mean
oh,
the
last
comment
I
had
was
you
know:
that's
a
it's
a
nice
corner,
there's
a
lot
of
lit,
there's
a
lot
of
natural,
green
landscaping
lawn.
A
I
think
the
way
any
any
ability
to
keep
that
that
corner
kind
of
soft
and
and
green
and
lush
and
particularly
landscape,
and
so
there's
that
sense,
yeah
of
you
know,
kind
of
sense
of
place.
That's
created
there
now
yeah,
that's.
J
That's
the
goal,
I
think,
with
you
know,
with
either
scheme
one
or
scheme
two
look:
we
could
pull
these
play
structures
in
a
little
bit.
J
I
think
the
real
the
real
benefit
for
us
would
be
to
have
the
you
know
to
have
that
to
have
that
fence
on
that
on
that
property
line,
and
just
you
know
if,
if
there's
you
know
a
way
to
do
that
and
have
some
relief
there,
that's
probably
the
only
relief
we're
looking
for
here
on
this
project
and
I
could
scoot
those
play
structures
in
a
bit
where
you
see
those
two,
the
circle
and
the
square
of
the
rectangle.
I
could
scoot
those
closer
to
the
building
without
without
a
problem
actually.
M
Yeah,
I
do
have
questions
about
the
landscaping
and
what
the
intentions
are
as
far
as
the
trees
that
are
there
currently
and
what
you
know,
what
the
impact
of
the
construction
is
going
to
be
to
those
trees
and
then
what
kind
of
you
know
what's
going
to
be
done?
Post
construction.
J
So
you
know
I
don't
have
a
tree
study
done
on
the
site,
but
you
know
obviously
any
trees
that
are
currently
in
the
way
of
you
know
this
parking
lot
or
or
the
building.
Obviously
we
need
to
be
removed
if
on
the
property,
obviously
nothing
will
be
taken
down
in
the
right
of
way
and
then
you
know
like
like
many
of
our
schools,
you
know
our
our
goal
is
to
is
to
replant
substantially
so
we
really
don't
have
any
plans
per
se
right
now.
J
I
think
that
would
go
a
little
bit
further
down
the
road
we
engaged
in
a
landscape
architect
for
our
last
application
on
herd
street.
I
have
a
feeling
that
that
staff
and
the
plan
department
was
was
happy
with
the
plan
that
was
submitted.
I
know,
there's
you
know,
there's
a
monarch,
butterfly
pledge
and
there's
you
know,
bird
friendly
evanston
there's
a
lot
of
different
things.
J
We
learned
about
during
the
last
application
that
I
know
we'll
be
cognizant
of
on
this
one,
but
you
know
to
answer
your
question
directly.
I
don't
have
any.
I
don't
have
a
landscape
plan
right
now,
but
I
know
we
will
be
heavily
landscaping
this
and
to
johanna's
point.
Keeping
that
hard
corner
soft
is
is
also
of
interest
to
us
as
well.
That's
really
that's
a
beautiful
corner!
J
There's
a
lot
of
light
there
and
it's
great
to
be
able
to
you
know
kind
of
look
across
the
corner,
as
people
are
maybe
perhaps
trying
to
make
a
right
hand
turn
from
central
onto
gross
point.
We
want
to
be
able
to
keep
that
corner
kind
of
clear
for
them
just
so
they
can
kind
of
look
across
and
see.
What's
going
on,.
M
M
There's
no,
I
mean
there's,
obviously,
love
places
not
that
far
away,
but
it's
on
it's
down
a
very
busy
street,
and
so
it
might
not
be
reasonable
for
those
kids
to
be
able
to
walk
to
a
place
that
has
trees
right,
that
has
plants
and
greenery,
which
is
critical
to
childhood
development,
to
have
access
to
those
things,
and
so
you
know
it's
a
bit
concerning
that.
There
are
some
large,
mature
trees
on
this
property.
M
J
So
you're
speaking
to
the
children
in
our
care
at
the
school
yeah,
I
agree.
Look
if
the
site
were
bigger,
we'd
be
able
to
do
more
with
it.
You
know
this
is
currently
zoned
r2.
I
think
that
if
kensington
school
weren't
looking
to
come
here,
I
think
a
a
larger
multi-family
development
would
as
well
would
otherwise.
J
You
know,
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
church
is
is
selling
the
property
they,
and
you
know,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
viable
interested
buyer
in
keeping
the
church
intact.
I
think
so
redevelopment
here
is
is
pretty
much
what
what
is
going
to
happen.
You
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
the
the
parking
lot
we're
pretty
much
keeping
the
same.
You
know
the
parking
lots
in
the
same
context,
so
I
don't
know
what
trees
are
are
around
there.
J
J
You
know,
unfortunately,
we'll
have
to
you
know
be
taken
down,
but
I
think
by
the
same
token,
you
know
we'd
probably
be
seeing
some
kind
of
residential
construction
development
going
on
there
as
well.
That
would
yield
the
same
result,
which
is
any
which
is
a
mature
tree
being
taken
down.
So.
E
E
Another
item
is
that
if
you,
when
you
take
into
consideration
the
landscaping,
if
you
could
think
of
some
sort
of
a
greenery,
that
will
actually
help
with
some
noise
control
as
well
so
some
side
issues
for
the
south
side
there
with
the
apartment
complex,
I
mean
they
would
definitely
benefit
and
appreciate
some
sort
of
probably
visual
screen,
as
well
as
a
some
sort
of
sound
barrier
in
that
area.
Sure.
J
Yeah
I
know
there
you
know
evanston's
done
a
really
great
job
of
planting
that
parkway.
There
are
really
beautiful,
trees,
running
up
and
down
gross
point,
and
you
know
obviously
we'll
be
preserving
all
those.
Those
are
you
know
not
in
our
purview
to
take
down.
Is
that
maybe
yeah
that
maple
that's
sitting
well,
that's
part
of
that's
part
of
the
parkway.
J
I'm
looking
at
a
street
view
yeah
that
one
big
tree,
that's
kind
of
tucked
in
right
near
the
school
or
right
near
the
church
right
now,
yeah
we'll
do
our
best
to
save
that.
That's
beautiful.
I
Going
back
to
the
bike
parking
real
quick,
I
would
recommend
that
any
bike
parking
placed
on
site
should
be
placed
on
central
street
rather
than
gross
road.
If
leading
birds
option
one
or
two,
then
because
of
the
direction
of
the
building
at
the
location,
it
would
also
make
sense
for
the
bike
parking
to
be
near
the
entrance
as
well.
J
Yeah,
I
completely
agree,
I
think,
in
scheme
one
or
scheme
two,
you
know
there's
a
cutout
in
that
northeast
corner
of
the
parking
lot,
where
the
you
know,
just
by
the
nature
of
the
the
right
angle
of
the
parking
lot
there.
I
see.
I
see
that
as
being
a
really
good
spot
for
for
a
bike
rack
and
a
fairly
large
one.
J
If
those
spots
are
20
or
18
inches
or
18
feet
deep,
it
could
be
a
pretty
a
pretty
good-sized
bike
bike
rack,
especially
if,
if
the
you
know,
if
many
folks
are
are
using
their
bike,
a
lot
of
employees
for
that
matter
are
biking
to
work
as
well.
That
would
work
out
great.
I
And
then
just
a
reminder
from
last
time,
any
concrete
pad
for
bike
parking.
It
would
be
great
if
you
could
make
sure
that
it's
extended
to
allow
for
cargo
carriers
on
bikes,
I'm
one
of
those
families
in
evanston
that
bikes
their
toddler
to
daycare
yeah.
E
I
So
usually
we
have
a
trailer
and
so
making
sure
that
there
is
room
for
a
trailer
is
very
important
when
you're
talking
about
bike
parking
at
a
daycare
facility,
you.
B
By
our
own
code
now,
sidewalks
would
be
required
to
extend
the
entire
length
of
the
property
where
front
streets.
I
think.
J
Yeah,
so
if
there's
a
sidewalk
on
central
right
now,
that
would
obviously
stay.
I
think,
on
scheme
one
where
we
showed
the
daycare
facing
the
parking
lot
facing
west,
basically
we're
showing
three
connections
to
that
sidewalk
from
our
site,
and
obviously
these
are
all.
This
is
all
schematic.
We're
gonna
talk
to
staff
as
we
move-
or
I
guess
we're
talking
to
you
now.
So
you
know,
let's
go
back
to
let's
go
back
to
scheme
one,
for
example,.
J
Lance
drew
this
showing
you
know
three
connections
to
the
public:
walk
from
from
the
school
one,
one,
the
patio
off
the
back
two
in
the
middle
off
of
what
are
more
than
likely
fire
exits
and
one
is
the
walk
off
the
front.
Would
you
want
to
see
those
there?
I
mean
I,
I
we're
at
your
discretion
as
far
as
you
know
lance,
so
those
are
those
four
you
know
in
case
of
snow
and
for
for
egress
out
to
the
public
way
kind
of
thing.
F
F
A
Gonna
need
to
do
that
and
then
it
looks
like
there's
some
tr
there's
some.
I
I
don't
know
where
you're
gonna
do
this,
but
there's
this
I
think
it's
a
maple
tree
kind
of
in
the
path
of
that
potential
sidewalk
or
near
it
so,
but
that
might
that
tree
also
might
be
something
you're,
pl
you're
thinking
you
need
to
remove
because
of
the
driveway.
A
E
You're
that
you're
you're
right
that
that
area,
there's
vegetation
in
there
that
any
type
of
sidewalk
is
going
to
be
extremely
detrimental.
There
is
an
opportunity,
though,
in
the
park,
in
the
parking
lot
to
put
some
items,
put
some
trees
in
there,
but
yeah.
That's
it's
that
extending
that
sidewalk
is
going
to
be
going
to
be
a
challenge.
J
Yeah
we're
not
we're
not
opposed
to
replanting
new
trees.
We
do
it
everywhere.
All
the
time,
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
you
all
about
it
whenever,
whenever
we
get
to
that
point
sure.
J
20
years,
so
I
know
which
I'm
right
there
with
you.
I
always
drive
my
landscapers
crazy.
They
they
want
to
bring
out
these
little
itty,
bitty,
dopey,
trees
and,
and
we
always
try
and
and
find
the
biggest
ones
we
can.
You
know
from
just
from
a
perspective
of
you,
know,
owning
the
property
and
running
the
business
you
want.
You
want
it
to
look
good,
you
want
to
look,
you
know
you,
we
build
these
buildings
so
that
they
they.
E
J
As
if
they've
been
part
of
the
community
for
a
long
time-
and
a
lot
of
that
is
landscaping-
so
we
do-
we
do
really
enjoy
a
lot
of
landscaping
on
our
schools.
A
So
maybe,
as
you
move
forward,
it
makes
sense
to
meet
with
michael
callahan
or
emily
on
site
to
go
over
what
trees
are
there
and
what
might
be
good
opportunities
to
save
and
move
things
around.
A
A
I
H
Good
afternoon,
so
I
live
directly
across
the
street,
from
unity
on
the
north
side
of
central,
so
have
significant
vested
interest
in
what
happens
across
the
street,
and
with
that
in
mind,
when
I
heard
about
the
unity
plan
to
to
sell
the
property,
I
talked
with
the
church
leadership
and
made
it
very
clear
that
the
neighbors
would
like
to
work
with
unity,
work
with
developer
and
come
up
with
a
plan.
That's
mutually
beneficial.
H
We've
had
other
proposals
around
hot
dog
island
over
the
years
that
have
not
met
with
great
neighborhood
support
and
they've
gone
down
the
tubes.
So
this
time
we
have
a
proposal
that
conceptually
is
very
attractive.
There's
a
lot
of
really
good
things
about
kids
in
school
that
I
think,
are
attractive
to
the
neighborhood.
H
But
just
say
what
what
is
a
good
plan
for
that
property
and
the
traffic
flow
is
a
major
major
item.
That's
the
could
be
the
the
showstopper
that
we
have
to
deal
with
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
the
way
the
parking
lot
is
is
designed
and
the
the
two-way
flow
on
the
west
side
of
it
to
provide
access
to
the
apartments.
H
H
Obviously,
from
a
neighborhood
perspective,
not
having
anything
happening
on
weekends
evenings
is
extremely
attractive
and
in
terms
of
landscaping.
Something
to
note
is
that
the
parking
lot
needs
to
have
full
evergreen.
You
know
screening.
Currently,
the
screening
is
negligible.
H
When
we
get
into
the
winter
sun,
we
get
lots
of
glare
off
cars
that
are
parked
there.
So
definitely
you
know
significant
screening
and
and
chuck
has
talked
about
the
emphasis
on
landscaping.
I've
been
by
the
kids
in
school
in
glenview
quite
often,
and
been
very
pleased
with
the
with
what
they've
done
there
and
then
from
the
review
of
the
plans
that
we're
looking
at
today.
A
J
A
All
right
next
up
is
sherman
avenue,
major
adjustment
to
a
plan
development.
The
housing
authority
of
cook
county
submits
for
a
major
adjustment
to
a
plan
development
at
1900
sherman
avenue
previously
approved
by
ordinance
109020
to
construct
a
16-story
residential
building
in
the
c1a
mixed
mixed-use
zoning
district.
A
The
applicant
proposes
changes
to
the
following
site:
development
allowances,
one
a
decrease
in
the
number
of
dwelling
units
from
168
to
152
to
a
decrease
in
the
number
of
below
grade
parking
spaces
from
37
to
25
and
three:
a
decrease
in
zoning
height
from
172
feet,
8
inches
to
168
feet,
4
inches
great,
who
is
on
bill?
Are
you
on
for
hack?
Yes,.
N
I
am,
and
I
will
share
my
screen
to
show
you
a
powerpoint
presentation.
A
And
if
anybody
would
like
to
do
staff
comments
and
public
comments,
if
anybody
would
like
to
get
provide
any
comment,
send
me
a
note
in
the
chat
or
raise
your
hand.
Please.
A
N
N
A
lot
of
this
is
really
standard
kind
of
design
development
changes
as
we
go
from
conceptual
design,
which
is
what
we
had
for
the
original
project
approval
into
design
development.
Some
things
do
change.
In
addition,
we
have
done
some
subservice
investigation
of
the
site
and
have
found
that
we
need
to
have
a
separation
between
the
existing
permanent
building
and
the
new
building,
which
has
caused
some
relatively
minor
changes
in
the
program.
But
since
evanston's
zoning
ordinance
is
very
strict
on
changes
narrowly
defining
minor
changes
than
anything.
That's
not
a
minor
change.
K
N
So
our
agenda
is
as
follows:
so
I'll
provide
some
introductory
comments
and
then
we're
going
to
address
each
of
the
major
changes.
One
two
three
and
four
individually
greg
klozowski
from
papa
george
haynes
architects
will
will
assist
me.
So
in
each
of
these
major
adjustments,
we
will
talk
about
the
need
for
a
vision
which
greg
will
cover,
and
then
I
will
talk
about
the
justification
for
the
approval,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
greg
is
on
the
line.
Greg.
Are
you
with
us.
N
N
Okay,
that's
great!
So,
let's
go
on
to
these
introductory
comments.
So
essentially
the
project
is
will
not
be
compromised
in
any
way.
The
high
quality
design
and
the
approved
project
will
be
maintained.
The
refinements
to
the
to
the
building
will
not
be
noticeable
from
the
outside.
N
N
So
the
need
for
the
amendments
came
about
through
two
discoveries.
One
was
a
structural
issue
with
the
pearlman
building
foundation
underground,
which
necessitates
separating
creating
a
10
or
12
foot
separation
between
the
two
buildings,
the
approved
plans
had
the
the
buildings
touching
and
the
underground
parking
would
would
have
abutted
the
underground
foundation
of
the
pearlman
building
that
we
thought
was
there,
but
instead
there's
a
a
slab
foundation
which
greg
will
talk
about
later,
but
that
was
one
discovery
that
necessitated
a
change
in
the
program
end
up
reducing
the
number
of
underground
parking
spaces.
N
N
We
went
through
the
approval
process
right
as
cobit
19
was
was,
was
hitting
and
there
have
been
some
changes
in
tenant
preferences
as
a
result
of
cobit
19,
and
if
anybody
hasn't
realized
you
know,
kobit
19
will
make
some
permanent
changes
and
how
we
live.
N
We're
still
not
back
to
normal
and
probably
never
will
be
completely
the
way
we
were
before,
and
this
has
ramifications
in
terms
of
our
unit
design
and
how
we
think
we
can
appeal
to
the
market
in
the
best
possible
way,
having
larger
units
and
less
common
area,
which
is,
which
is
what
we
focus
on
in
the
approved
plans.
So
we'll
have
fewer
apartments
but
larger
apartments
and
less
common
area
inside
the
building.
N
N
You
know
and
with
a
lot
of
ordinances,
if
you're
making
something
smaller
in
the
plan
development,
you
don't
need
formal
approval
to
do
that.
It's
it's
a
minor
adjustment,
but
in
evidence
in
case
since
it's
not
defined
as
a
minor
amendment,
it's
a
major
adjustment,
so
we
need
approval
to
reduce
the
height
of
the
building.
N
We
are
reducing
the
number
of
on-site
parking
spaces
by
12
and
a
consequence
of
the
redesigned
floor
plan
is
an
increase
in
floor
air
ratio
very,
very
modestly,
from
4.33
to
4.37,
even
though
we're
reducing
the
total
amount
of
floor
area
on
the
on
the
side
and
in
the
new
building,
we
have
a
very
modest
increase
in
the
floor
ratio.
So
that's
what
we're
requesting
approval
for
and
a
positive
recommendation
from
this
dapper
committee.
N
So
we'll
start
now
with
talking
about
major
adjustment
number
one,
which
is
the
reduction
in
dwelling
units,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
greg.
Who
will
talk
about
the
redesigned
floor
plan
and
and
the
impact
of
that
on
the
development
and
the
reduction
in
units
greg.
G
Thanks
bill,
we
included
on
the
right
hand
side
of
the
screen
both
the
original
proposed
building
floor
plan.
That
shows
12
units
per
floor
that
was
approved
by
the
city
and
and
the
proposal
that
we're
having
now,
which
is
reduced
to
11
units
per
floor
and
really
the
primary
difference
that
you
can
see
here.
That's
important
to
note
is
what
bill
was
referring
to
earlier,
that
the
building
used
to
come
close
and
touch
the
building
to
the
north
and
now,
in
part,
because
of
our
discovery
about
the
foundation
system.
G
We're
pulling
that
building
so
the
north
face
on
the
bottom
diagram
is
running
effectively
east
to
west
clear,
all
the
way
through
and
not
bumping
out
to
the
north.
What
this
is
really
doing
is
allowing
us
to
both
reconfigure
the
units
so
that
they
are
still
slightly
larger
than
the
average,
because
we
are
taking
off
just
a
small
amount
of
square
footage
and
then
reconfiguring
that
into
12
units
or
into
11
units
from
12..
G
That
reconfiguration
is
resulting
in
a
lower
unit.
Count
as
bill
had
already
said,
that's
going
to
result
in
lower
rates
of
traffic
and
parking
demand.
N
Great,
so,
in
terms
of
the
justification
for
approving
this
major
adjustment,
each
of
the
four
major
adjustments
were
part
of
the
original
approval
they
were.
They
were
deemed
to
have
met
the
applicable
standards
and
were
proved
as
part
of
the
original
application.
N
We
think,
rather
than
go
through
each
of
the
standards
for
special
use,
which
technically
apply
we'll
leave
that
to
to
your
committee,
but
we
think
some
common
sense
assessment
of
this
is
is
needed
and
we
think
focusing
on
the
reasonableness
of
the
request.
Do
any
of
these
requests.
These
major
adjustments
increase
in
the
impacts,
or
do
they
reduce
the
project's
public
benefits
and
as
as
relates
to
the
reduction
in
the
unit
count.
I
I
think
the
request
is
reasonable.
N
There's
there's
a
strong
rationale
for
changing
the
floor
plan
in
response
to
covet,
and
also
in
response
to
separating
the
two
buildings
in
response
to
the
design
of
the
the
promen
foundation.
So
that's
a
reasonable
quest.
They
don't
increase
any
impacts.
In
fact,
they
decrease
impacts
in
terms
of
of
traffic
and
parking,
and
they
don't
reduce
any
of
the
public.
N
The
project's
public
benefits
because
we're
maintaining
all
of
the
benefits
we're
maintaining
the
affordable
housing,
we're
maintaining
all
of
the
public
space
on
the
ground
floor
on
the
exterior
of
the
project,
we're
maintaining
the
high
design
quality
of
the
project,
so
we're
not
reducing
any
of
these
public
benefits
and
therefore
we
think
this
major
adjustment
merits
this
committee's
approval.
A
Bill,
can
I
just
ask
you
to
I:
don't
know
if
you
were
going
to
go,
do
this
for
ever
every
item
but
we're
going
to
I'm
going
to
lose
staff
and
quorum,
and
I
want
to
get
you
a
decision
today.
N
Okay,
okay,
so
I
guess
you're
asking
me
to
move
the
the
presentation
quickly.
Okay,
so
I.
A
N
We
we
will,
we
will
expedite
this
so
greg,
very
briefly
talk
about
the
reduction
billing
height
and
what
it's
all
about.
G
This
this
one's
fairly
easy,
really.
What
happened
here
is
we
in
between
the
original
proposal
and
the
time
we've
had
some
design
development.
We've
just
been
able
to
tighten
things
up
a
little
bit
and
reduce
the
height
of
the
building
a
bit
so
there's
a
slight
decrease
in
the
overall
height
that
we'd
be
looking
for.
With
this
proposal.
N
Right,
okay
and
then
you
know,
it's
kind
of
you
know
odd.
That
we
have
to
ask
for
approval.
To
reduce
the
height
height
was
one
of
the
major
points
of
discussion
and
the
original
approval,
and
so
I
think
the
the
the
logic
behind
reducing
height
should
be
should
be
fairly
evident.
So,
let's
just
go
on
then
to
the
next
major
adjustment,
which
is
reduction
in
outside
parking,
which
probably
has
has
the
most
need
for
for
discussion.
Greg.
N
Please
go
through
the
what
we
found
out
with
respect
to
the
perlman
building
foundation
and
the
need
for
separation.
G
Yep
I'll
try
to
make
this
quick,
but
so
if
there
are
any
questions
once
I
do
this,
we
can.
We
can
pick
up
on
the
questions
but
effectively
you're,
seeing
a
diagram
on
the
left,
that's
showing
what
was
assumed,
which
is
fairly
reasonable.
The
pearlman
building
is
shown
in
a
darker
color
on
the
left.
On
the
left
hand,
drawing
our
proposed
building
is
on
the
right.
G
We
were
proposing
a
below
grade
a
two
story
below
grade
garage
and
assumed
that
the
building
had
up
here
or
case
on
foundation
that
would
push
those
in
the
loads
from
the
building
down
below
grade
shown
in
pink
color
on
the
left
on
the
right
is
what
we
actually
discovered.
The
building
is
supported
on
a
large
mat,
slab
foundation
and
effectively.
What
that's
doing
is,
instead
of
pushing
the
structural
loads
down
below
the
level
of
the
basement.
G
It's
starting
just
a
few
feet
below
grade
so
that
anything
you're
trying
to
build
within
that
zone
of
influence,
which
is
again
the
pink
on
the
right
image,
becomes
difficult
near
impossible
to
do
because
of
the
weight
of
the
building
applying
those
loads
on
the
walls.
So
this
is
part
of
the
reason
we
had
to
make
an
adjustment
to
the
garage
and
pull
the
building
away
to
get
out
of
that
zone
and
make
this
a
constructable
garage.
N
Okay,
and
so,
given
that
we
were
providing
only
a
small
portion
of
what
the
ordnance
said
we
needed
in
terms
of
parking
on
site.
I
think
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
discussed.
N
We
have
always,
we
always
were
planning
on
relying
on
leasing
off-site
pace
spaces
in
nearby
buildings.
So,
as
part
of
the
original
approval,
we
provided
a
letter
from
the
e2
building
that
said
that
they
would
commit
to
leasing
us
50
spaces,
we're
also
in
conversations
with
the
link
building
next
door
and
and
we'll
get
an
agreement
with
them
for
additional
spaces.
N
The
parking
study
we
had
at
the
at
the
time
of
the
project
approval
projected
a
need:
a
maximum
of
demand
of
51
spaces
at
any
given
point
in
time
for
the
building
in
our
public
meeting
that
we
had
just
a
month
ago,
we
this
was
discussed,
and
we
we
saw
that
the
parking
study
was
flawed
and
that
it
assumed
all
of
the
new
occupants
in
the
emerson
building
would
be
affordable,
tenants
which
was
never
intended.
That
was
not
the
case,
and
so
we
just
actually
today
about
10
minutes.
N
N
So
every
tenant,
who
has
a
car
in
the
proven
building,
who
needs
a
parking
space,
will
will
be
provided
a
parking
space
free
of
charge
by
the
housing
authority,
and
we
we
meaning
the
housing
authority,
will
work
with
the
nearby
buildings
who
have
surplus
parking
to
provide
all
of
our
tenants
in
a
new
emerson
building
with
a
space
if
they,
if
they
need
help
in
finding
a
space.
So
that
has
always
been
the
the
basis
for
the
provision
of
parking
in
this
project
it
was.
N
It
was
deemed
to
be
sufficient
when
we
had
the
original
approval,
we're
reducing
up
on-site
parking
by
12
spaces,
but
we're
reducing
number
of
units
in
the
building
by
16
units,
so
we're
actually
decreasing
the
parking
demand
on
site.
We
think
that
this
is
a
reasonable
request
and
consistent
with
the
original
approval.
A
I
A
N
Yeah,
so
so
great
just
briefly
talk
about
how
we,
why
far
has
increased.
G
Just
really
simply
put
because
of
the
fact
that
we
reduced
some
square
footage
per
floor.
These
are
the
same
two
floor
plans.
We
were
looking
at
before
the
percentage
of
rentable
space
to
the
circulation
and
core
functions
has
just
changed
slightly.
That's
resulting
in
the
change
and
the
far
slightly
because
there's
a
little
bit
less
rentable
space
in
proportion
to
the
central
space
on
each
floor
plan.
N
N
Okay,
so
that
is
our
presentation,
we're
happy
to
answer,
questions
from
the
committee
or
or
others
in
attendance.
A
C
John
I've
got
a
point
of
clarification
for
the
adjustment.
C
Typically,
the
far
would
be
a
major
adjustment
that
particular
change,
but
since
this
particular
development
is
providing
all
of
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
apartments
on
site,
they
get
a
bonus.
I
think
that's
this
1.0
own
it
bonus,
so
their
increase
actually
doesn't
actually
affect
what
they
were
originally
approved,
for
it
wasn't
originally
a
site
development
allowance
anyway.
Due
to
that
bonus.
So
that's
just
noting
that
there
is
an
increase
in
far,
but
it's
not
an
actual
adjustment
that
is
needed
for
this
project.
A
All
right,
I
have
marcia
on
for
a
question
or
comment.
O
O
Okay,
so
we
talked
about
the
parking
on
site
will
be
39
what
happens
to
the
rest
of
the
parking
and
if
people
in
that
building
also
have
caretakers
and
they're
off-site,
will
the
caretakers
parking
have
to
be
off-site?
Also.
E
N
Right
right,
so
we
will
have
to
work
on
that
fine
point
in
terms
of
care,
caregivers
and
where
they'll
park.
N
O
Okay,
one
other
part,
then,
to
the
parking
caretakers
are
here
and
some
of
the
residents
who
have
caretakers.
You
said
that
you
would
provide
transportation
to
it
from
the
different
parking.
Would
that
transportation
also
be
available
for
the
caretaker.
N
Well,
I
I
don't
recall,
saying
that
the
housing
authority
would
provide
transportation
between
the
permanent
building
and
the
location
of
the
residence
parking,
we're
going
to
try
to
accommodate
as
much
of
the
pearl
and
parking
on
site.
So
we'll
have
16
surface
spaces
off
the
alley,
and
our
latest
survey
of
parking
utilization
on
the
site
was
for
18
spaces,
and
so
there
may
not
be
very
many
people
at
all
who
have
to
park.
N
Off-Site
we
can
certainly
accommodate
a
couple
people
in
the
parking
garage
if
that's
necessary,
so
there
may
not
be
a
need
for
transportation
to
say
the
e-2
building
or
something
like
that,
and
we
think
if
we
can
get
spaces
in
the
link
building
which
we're
confident
of
that's
right
across
the
alley.
You
know
there
would
be
no
need
for
transportation
there
either.
So
we
really
don't
think
that
transportation
will
be
an
issue
to
the
parking
spaces
for
the
proven
residents.
O
But
if
it
does,
you
will
make
arrangements
and
you'll.
Let
us
know,
prior
to
the
construction,
the
start
of
the
construction.
A
Okay,
it's
a
good
item
for
our
construction
management
plan
as
they
develop,
but
one
of
the
things
they
have
to
do
when
they
submit
their
building
permit
is
to
provide
us
a
plan
for
how
they're
going
to
manage
their
construction
activity
and
impact
adjacent
properties
which
we
we've
heard
from
other
residents
that
at
the
parliament
building
that
this
is
a
concern
for
the
parking
access.
So
we
definitely
are
aware
that
that
needs
to
be
included.
A
Can
I
ask
you
to
ask
your
last
question
because
I
want
I'm
gonna
lose
I'm
gonna
lose
quorum
and
lose
staff.
Okay,.
A
A
Do
one
more
question
because
I
have
a
one
other
person
that
wants
to
provide
comment,
and
I
I
have
another
applicant
too,
and
I
I'm
sure
mr
james
can
help
or
if
you
want
to
put
him
in
writing
that
would
be.
We
could
definitely
get
your
answers
as
well.
O
O
N
N
Housing
one-bedroom
apartments
there
will
there
will
not
be
two-bedroom
public
housing
units.
So
so
that's
one
thing
to
to
to
just
be
clear
on
and
there's
a
range
of
of
square
footages,
for
you
know
the
one
bedroom
apartments
and
we're
not
okay,
we're
not
making
the
public
housing
unit
smaller.
Let
me
just
say
that
okay,
they
will
be,
they
will
be
spread
along
the
different
floors
in
the
different
unit
types.
They
will
be
one
bedroom,
but
they
will
be
larger
than
the
the
one
bedroom
units
in
the
perlman
building.
N
O
N
N
Well,
we'd
rather
respond
to
your
questions
through
the
housing
authority.
If
that's
okay,.
N
Didn't
say
that
I
did
not
say
that
I
I
did
not
say
that
I
said
that
in
the
post-covet
era,
tenants,
generally
speaking,
are
preferring
preferring
larger
units-
okay
and
and
not
as
much
common
area
space,
because
they're.
E
O
A
P
You
can
you
go
over
the
number
of
affordable
units
and
the
different
ami
for
those
units.
N
Yes,
so
greg
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
we
have
34,
is
it
34?
N
There
will
actually
be
public
housing
units
that
will
be
at
50,
ami
or
less
so
this
is
actually
a
lower
ami
than
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
threshold
of
60
ami,
and
then
we
will
have
17
what
we're
calling
missing
middle
units
and
the
ami
there,
the
mag,
the
high
highest
ami
allowed
in
those
units
will
be
80
of
area
median
income.
P
P
N
So
so
the
missing
middle
units
will
also
all
be
one
bedrooms,
so
those
17
units
will
be
one
bedrooms.
The
34
public
housing
units
will
be
one
bedrooms
greg.
How
many
two
bedrooms
do
we
have
in
the
building.
P
N
And
parking
consultant
the
day
after
the
public
meeting
when
we
promised
to
look
at
this
again-
and
you
know
they
couldn't
just
do
it
drop
everything
and
do
it
they
did
do
it
quickly
and,
like
I
said
I
have
a
cop,
a
draft
copy.
I
have
to
review
it
first
and
how's
it
going
first
and
then
we'll
be
happy
to
share
with
the
city.
P
P
N
Older
person
is
to
tell
you
I
can
tell
you
the
day
when
I
signed
the
work
order.
They
may
have
started
working
on
it
before
I
signed
the
work
order.
I'd
have
to
go,
get
the
workboard.
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me,
but
it
was.
The
work
was
done
within
the
last
two
weeks.
P
N
I
believe
so
I
haven't
read
the
whole
report
because
I
just
got
it
about
an
hour
before
the
meeting
started.
He
promised
to
get
before
the
end
of
the
day
today,
and
actually
he
got
it
done
a
little
earlier.
I
haven't
read
the
whole
study.
My
understanding
was
that
they
were
going
to
take
new
traffic
counts
because
they
took
traffic
counts
in
the
old
study
during
the
summer,
and
that
was
an
assumption
that
we
challenged
and
they
agreed
to
to
revise
that.
So
I'm
presuming
that
they
took
new
traffic
counts.
I'd
have
to
be.
P
Decided
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
have
some.
You
know
concrete
information
about
this
before
we
proceed
and
also
I
have
a
question
regarding
the
afford:
doesn't
our
iho
isn't
there
a
cert
isn't,
aren't
the
affordable
units
supposed
to
reflect
to
some
degree
the
proportions
with
regard
to
market
rate
units?
I
mean
megan,
isn't
that
I
mean
that
there's
not
a
single
two-bedroom.
N
If
I
could
say
something
on
this,
since
this
will
be
an
age-restricted
building,
there
is
not
a
presumption
that
there
will
be
families
in
the
building,
and
so
the
two
bedroom
units
will
really
be
a
luxury
for
people
to
have
extra
space.
They
have
a
home
office
or
whatever,
and
we
just
did
not
think
that
that
was
consistent
with
you
know
the
provision
of
affordable
housing
that
but.
P
C
To
the
extent
possible,
the
affordable
unit
should
match
what
is
within
the
building.
Sarah
would
probably
be
the
the
better
person
to
to
really
expound
upon
that,
but
she
did
review
what
was
offered
both
in
the
original
plan
and
in
this
particular
update,
and
she
was
okay
with
what
was
provided.
I
think,
in
part
due
to
the
the
age
restriction
and
possibly
something.
A
So,
council,
member
kelly,
that
that
is
a
perfect
example
of
something
that's
probably
more
within
the
council's
purview
than
the
staff's
purview.
So
we
review,
as
you
know,
for
completeness
of
application
and
technical
aspects
of
the
project,
but
that
is
this
will
go
next
to
the
plan
commission
and
then
they'll
make
a
recommendation
in
support
or
denial
of
the
major
adjustment
to
the
city,
council
and
planning
and
development
committee
and
we'll
make
the
ultimate
decision.
So
I.
P
We
just
want
you
to
present
the
facts,
and
I
think
that
is
a
fact
that
needs
to
be
presented
to
the
public
and
I
megan
with
all
due
respect
to
say
that
this
just
a
blanket
this
meets
the
inclusionary
housing
warnings
is
not
quite
accurate
and
it
doesn't
because
you
know
it
is
supposed
to
reflect
to
the
to
the
best
possible,
and
that
should
be
stated.
The
proportion
of
units
that
are
two
bedrooms
should
also
be
reflected
with
regard
to
the
now
it's
okay.
Again,
we
can
vote
to
your
point
johanna
plan.
P
Commission
pnd
can
vote
along
with
it,
but
the
staff
should
inform
the
public
accurately
that
in
fact,
our
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
would
require
a
proportional
number
of
two-bedroom
units
to
be
reflected
in
the
affordable
units.
A
All
right,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
you
know
what
everyone
I'm
gonna
ask
because
we're
renting
we're
about
to
run
out
of
and
there's
one
more
applicant
too.
So
I'm
gonna
ask
if
there's
any
further
staff
comments
or
any
other
members
of
the
public.
That
would
like
to
provide
any
comments
to
raise
your
hand
or
send
me
a
chat
and
then,
and
then,
if
there's
any
final
comments
from
the
applicant
will
go
from
there.
A
And
then
object,
oh
sorry,
and
then
I
would
just
add
that
council,
member
kelly,
we
put
all
of
our
comments
and
information
into
a
staff
member
that
goes
to
the
planning
commission.
So
this
feedback
gets
it
travels
with
the
project.
So,
okay,
I'm.
B
Thank
you.
I
would
actually
like
to
because
in
the
interest
of
time-
and
I
know
we're
losing
people
and
it's
disrespectful
to
717
main
street,
if
we
don't
hear
their
case,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
a
positive
recommendation
to
the
planning
commission.
L
A
All
right,
katie,
please
call
the
roll.
D
No
I'm
here
hi
jones,
I
griffith.
I
D
Schner,
I
I
did
see
member
k
notes,
arrive
on
the
previous
agenda
item,
so
kano.
O
E
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody
all
right.
Next
item-
717
main
street
recommendation
of
zoning
administrator
adil
ahmed
muhammad
potentially
see
submits
for
an
administrative
review
use
for
the
ground
floor.
Medical
office
for
covid
testing
facility
in
the
b2
business
district
and
dempster
main
overlay
district
is
the
applicant
still
here.
Q
Q
Q
This
type
of
absolutely
free
cova
testing
facility,
both
for
pcr
and
rapid,
isn't
available.
We
are
approved
through
the
clia
and
have
a
lab
in
lsip.
Q
Rapid
tests
usually
occur
within
results
within
five
to
ten
minutes
of
taking
the
test,
and
the
pcr
tests
are
within
24
to
48
hours
of
the
patient.
Taking
these
tests,
the
biggest
question
that
we
had
during
this
during
this
proposal
was
the
parking
situation
where
there
was
a
total
number
of
seven
parking
units
required
for
sorry,
a
total
of
seven
parking
units
for
this
space.
Q
Sorry
guys
so
total
number
of
seven
parking
units
required
for
the
space
one
space
is
has
already
been
a
part
of
this
unit
itself
and
our
neighbors
across
the
street
from
goods
farming
are
willing
to
lease
us
six
additional
parking
spaces
for
this
use.
Q
This
is
a
very
non-uh
schematic,
drawing
of
of
what
this
space
would
look
like
and
what
our
waiting
areas
would
look
like,
as
well
as
what
those
testing
tables
would
look
like
everyone
within
who
entered
the
space
are,
would
be
required
to
wear
facial
covering
and
if
they
don't
have,
one
one
would
be
provided
to
them.
Q
The
tester
themselves
would
be
wearing
a
n95,
and
all
of
the
seating
arrangements
in
the
waiting
area
are
pertained
to
be
six
feet
apart
from
each
other
following
the
cdc
guidelines,
every
single
after
once,
every
single
test
is
performed.
Each
testing
area
would
be
disinfected
and
cleaned
and
yeah
looking
forward
for
any
other
questions.
I
A
Great,
thank
you
everybody.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
more
items
right.
I'm
not
gonna
miss
something!
Okay!
Thank
you
great.
Well,
this
is
the
longest
dapper
meeting
I
think
we've
had
in
a
year
and
a
half.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
Yes,
thank
you
motion
to
adjourn.