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A
All
right
good
afternoon
welcome
to
the
february
15th
meeting
of
the
design
and
project
review
committee.
We
do
have
a
quorum.
Is
there
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
to
participate
electronically.
C
C
D
A
E
D
F
D
C
D
C
C
A
Thank
you.
We're
gonna
do
old
business
in
a
second,
but
I
just
want
to
make
an
announcement
about
1801
central
street
per
our
law
department.
That
item
is
off
the
agenda
and
due
to
a
appeal
for
the
zoning,
administrator's
decision
and
interpretation
of
the
zoning
on
that
property.
So
my
hope
is
that
we
will
have
this
back
on
the
agenda
next
week,
but
the
direction
from
the
law
department
is
that
we
are
not
to
discuss
the
matter
this
afternoon.
A
So
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
I
know
there's
a
handful
of
people
that
may
have
arrived
for
that
case.
Anyone
should
feel
free,
I'll
put
my
email
in
the
chat.
If
anyone
needs
to
chat
with
me
about
that
after
the
meeting,
I'm
happy
to
do
a
call
or
email.
A
A
All
right,
first
item
old
business,
1224
washington
street
recommendation
of
the
landings
committee,
james
tulio
property
owner
requests,
various
zoning
variations
from
the
evanston
zoning
ordinance
to
allow
for
the
subdivision
of
one
9,
226
square
foot,
100
foot
wide
residential
corner
lot
into
two
residential
lots
in
the
r32
family
residential
district.
A
The
central
property
is
currently
improved
with
one
story:
two
one
two
story:
building
a
driveway
and
a
patio.
The
land
use
commission
makes
the
final
determination
on
these
requests.
For
section
6-3-8-10
of
the
evans,
zoning
ordinance
and
ordnance
92-0-21,
the
city
council
shall
consider
the
draft
platf
subdivision
per
section
4-11-1
of
the
evanston
building
code.
Should
the
ladies
commission
approve
the
aforementioned
variations
from
the
evanston
zoning
ordinance?
G
I
am
back,
I'm
not
sure,
there's
so
much
to
re,
to
update
you
with
just
the
the
application
was
renewed
and
probably
I
think
I'm
gonna
have
to
do
another
plat
after
the
zoning
board
hearing,
but
I
did
want
to
address
some
of
the
issues
from
the
last
planning
meeting.
If
I
may,
you
know,
I
might
have
said
some
of
this
stuff
last
time,
but
I
mean
you
know
I
was
asking.
G
I
asked
the
zoning
board
to
make
an
exception
for
me
because
of
the
school
that
I
that
I
run
here.
I
do
a.
I
have
a
high
school
age,
music
production
school
and
I
give
high
school
age
students
studio
time
and
I
record
their
songs.
I
do
it
all
pro
bono
and
it's
an
incredibly
successful
program
and
my
building
isn't
in
jeopardy
and
that's
why
I'm
trying
to
sell
a
lot
to
be
able
to
save
the
building,
but
some
of
the
other
issues
that
were
brought
up
before
I
thought
you
know.
G
I
did
some
research
and
there
are
many
many
lots
in
evanston
that
are
under
5
000
square
feet
and
in
fact
my
neighbor's
lot
is
under
5.
000
square
feet,
so
that's
one
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
again
and
I
can't
remember
the
woman
who
brought
up
the
drainage
issue.
G
You
know
covering
part
of
the
lot
would
be
a
drainage
problem.
You
know,
I
mean
90
percent
of
the
homes
in
evanston.
Are
there
they're?
You
know
back-to-back
I
mean,
and
this
lot
would
still
have
if
they
built
a
house
on
it
would
still
have
plenty
of
land
and
I've
never
had
a
drainage
problem
here
ever
and
maybe
it's
because
I
have
an
empty
lot,
but
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
that
would
be
much
of
an
issue
other
than
that.
You
know
I
I'm
just
hoping
I
can
get
this
done.
A
Any
comments
or
questions
katie
worked
on
this.
Do
you
have
any
comments
or
anything
to
add.
D
Yes,
so
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
clarify
what
happened
at
the
land
use
commission
meeting
so
essentially
the
land
use
commission
was
not
comfortable,
making
a
vote
on
the
previous
way
that
the
lot
was
proposed
to
be
subdivided
which,
what
included
the
corner
lot
being
5000
square
feet
in
the
interior,
lot
being
426
square
feet.
D
They
wanted
both
of
the
lots
to
be
closer
to
that
5
000
square
foot
mark
rather
than
having
one
being
completely
compliant
and
one
almost
800
square
feet
substandard,
and
so
they
asked
mr
tullio
if
he
would
be
comfortable
revising
his
subdivision
to
reflect
that
suggestion,
and
he
has
come
forward
with
that
and
staff
did
a
re-review
of
the
zoning
analysis
and
that's
where
the
more
numerous
zoning
variations
come
from
is
having
the
corner
lot
re.
It's
allowing
those
conditions
to
remain
as
they
are.
But
obviously,
if
the
lot.
D
Triggers
impervious
surface
and
building
lot
coverage
more,
so
so
that's
more
or
less
why
the
request
is
before
dabber
again
and
we
did
have
to
re-notice
in
the
paper
and
do
the
mailing
again.
So
dapper
needs
to
make
a
new
recommendation
on
this
request.
B
So
I
definitely
understand
that
your
building
and
your
company
are
doing
something.
That's
really
good
for
the
community,
but
flooding
in
this
town
is
a
very
real
problem.
There
are
a
lot
of
arguments
that
happen
between
the
city
and
community
members
between
community
members
and
other
community
members
who
own
property,
and
the
city
invested
210
million
dollars
over
20
years
to
build
a
release
sewer
system
in
order
to
help
alleviate
some
of
the
drainage
issues.
B
So
it
is
a
serious
commitment
and
when
the
city
council
adopted
carp,
one
of
the
major
initiatives
was
to
reduce
flooding
and
increase
green
space.
So
I'm
the
person
who
complained
about
the
flooding
issue
last
time,
I
I
don't
feel
that
I
can
support
creating
properties
where
one
one
compliant
property.
As
far
as
building
lot
coverage
and
impervious
surface
is
now
being
divided
to
create
properties
that
are
not
compliant.
I
don't
think
that
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
community.
F
So
I
kind
of
want
to
add
a
little
bit
more
with
regards
to
what
the
land
use
commission
discussed
and
actually
the
previous
conditions
that
the
zoning
administrator
had
added
in
the
memo
that
went
to
the
land
use.
F
Commission,
you
know
at
the
land
use
commission,
there
was
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
regarding
affordability
and
this
being
a
possible
location
to
be
able
to
do
a
smaller
lot
with
a
smaller
home
that
would
be
more
affordable
to
people
and
also
bringing
up
the
rehab
regulations
for
efficiency
homes
that
would
fit
on
the
smaller
lots.
F
But
I
guess
one
of
my
other
questions
would
be
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
think
she's
on
the
call
melissa
she
previously
had
conditions
where
we
would
not
permit
variations
for
the
new
life
if
there
were.
I
guess
concerns
with
regards
to
that.
Could
you
still
enact
those
conditions
I
feel
like
that
could
be
a
possible.
F
B
D
I
wanted
to
kind
of.
I
would
like
to
concur
with
what
megan
said
about
the
smaller
lot
lending
itself
to
have
another
affordable
home
in
the
community.
I
understand
that
the
city
has
adopted
the
carp
policy
and
but
the
carp
plan,
but
housing
is
also
an
issue
with
affordability,
and
I
think
that
the
solutions
that
melissa
klotz
had
put
in
her
memo
were
enough
to
be
considered,
and
it
did
certainly
the
land
use
commission
at
least
felt
they
wanted
to
see
what
they
did.
D
Ask
staff
which
I'm
happy
to
share
with
dapper,
but
it
wasn't
requested
by
dapper.
Specifically,
they
wanted
to
see
what
potential
building
footprints
would
be
for
two
single-family
homes
on
the
two
watts
should
they
should
the
current
property
that's
developed,
be
developed
with
a
new
single-family
home,
and
both
properties
would
also
be
limited
to
the
single
family
use
rather
than
a
two
family.
D
Even
though
it
is
a
two
family
district,
because
that's
the
lot
size
that
is
being
requested
for
so
I'm
happy
to
pull
those
up,
if
any
other
staff
would
like
to
share
them,
but
they'll
be
otherwise
in
the
land
use
commission
packet
going
out
this
friday.
A
So
I
was
at
the
landis
commission
meeting
as
well,
and
I
think
the
the
land
use
commission
was
very
much
looking
for
a
way
in
which
to
approve
this,
but
given
the
nature
of
how
the
lots
were
split
at
the
time
they
they
asked
for
this.
This
different
breakdown
of
the
lot.
So
I
think
they
were
receptive
to
the
conditions
that
were
suggested
by
the
zoning
administrator
and
making
a
recommendation
with
the
condition
with
those
similar
conditions,
which
I
think
include
the
no
build
of
you.
A
D
Can
I
have
sheep
screen
sharing
permission.
D
G
A
Because
one
thought
that
I
can't
remember
if
the
ladies
commission
discussed
this,
let's
say
he
was
just
selling
this
property,
as
is
this.
What
could
be
built
here
on
an
r3
could
still
have
pretty
significant,
lock
coverage.
Even
if
it's
within
the
zoning,
the
required
zoning
allotment,
we
could
still
see
buildings
built
on
on
this
property.
A
A
E
I
had
a
question
about
the
existing
concrete
patio
if
there
was
any
conversation
regarding
switching
that
out
to
a
more
permeable
surface
as
a
condition
of
approval
or
if,
if
that's
just
gonna,
be
considered
an
existing
condition
that
remains
on
the
ex.
On
the
on
the
current
lot,
that's
gonna
remain
at
the
corner.
Lot.
E
I'm
I'm
asking
katie
or
any
other
staff
that
has
looked
at
this.
If
there
was
any
conversation
or
or
the
applicant.
G
E
G
I
I
put
that
in
myself
15
years
ago,
but
I
wouldn't
be
opposed.
I
don't
need
the
patio,
it's
not
like
it's
essential.
C
G
C
E
D
Right
and
that's
correct,
and
if
he
he
does
have
like
crushed
stone
or
gravel
there
now
and
that
for
the
driveway.
D
I
did
still
include
that
in
the
number,
though,
but
if
this
were
to
go
to
the
south
side
of
the
lot
too,
rather
than
a
new
curb
cut
off
of
washington,
that
that
would
be.
That
was
already
included
in
the
numbers
that
we're
reviewing.
B
G
D
That's
correct,
but
unfortunately
jim
we,
you
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
put
new
gravel
down
as
we
you
have
to
have
like
a
hard
surface
for
your
driveways,
so
you
would
need
to
put
in
permeable
pavers
or
concrete
or
asphalt.
That's.
That
is
a
code
requirement.
So
right
now
how
it
is
it's
non-conforming
we're
not
making
you
improve
your
driveway
now,
but
you
couldn't
continue
to
maintain
it
as.
G
G
H
D
The
zoning
code
just
speaks
to
a
hard
surface
for
a
driveway
which
we
would
then
it
refers
to
the
public,
the
provision
of
the
code
that
regulates
right-of-way,
so
we
have
just
kind
of
required.
You
know
we
need
to
put
in
asphalt
or
concrete
or
permeable
papers.
When
we
have
we,
we
don't
like
frozen
code
compliance,
we
don't
let
people
continue
to
just
keep
putting
gravel
down.
D
I'm
not
sure
I
follow
he's
able
to
maintain
his
existing
driveway
for
the
existing
building,
but
if
he
he
can't
do
so
with
this
current
material
that
he.
H
D
I
don't
know
that
we've
really
discussed
to
that
detail
in
terms
of
implementing
that.
A
I
If
you
have
an
existing
gravel
driveway
you've
been
permitted
to
keep
that
unless
you
make
any
changes,
if
you're,
adding
a
garage
or
whatever,
then
you
have
to
you-
have
to
bring
that
up
to
current
code,
which
requires
a
hard
surface.
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
being
considered
a
requirement
of
the
lot
split
that
you
change
this
into
a
hard
surface,
so
that
you're
code
compliant
so
that,
if
the
second
lot
gets
built
on,
they
can
just
add
to
that
when
they're
building
versus
having
to
redo
the
whole
thing.
But
that
also
brings
me
to
the
other
question:
have
you
thought
about
who's
going
to
be
required
to
maintain
that
that
easement?
When
it
comes
to
snow
removal,
I
mean
we
require
the
homeowner
to
remove
their
snow
on
their
their
areas?
G
Yes,
I
can
okay
the
way.
The
way
I
dealt
with
the
snow,
the
last
15
years.
Is
I
just
I
clear
the
driveway.
You
know
the
curb
cut
and
I
I
shovel
out
to
get
to
my
car,
but
having
the
car
there
covers.
G
You
know
doesn't
allow
snow
to
build
up,
so
I
rarely
clear
the
snow
out
of
the
driveway,
except
just
on
the
sides
to
get
into
the
car.
But
if,
if
this
is,
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
shared
eastman,
there
is
a
row
of
bushes
that
I
would
have
that.
I
would
remove
to
make
the
easement
wider
and
I
think
I
think
that's
in
the
the
plat,
but
it
would
be
almost
17
feet
wide.
If
I
remove
the
bushes.
I
Are
we
going
to
number
one
require
him
to
bring
his
driveway
up
to
the
current
code
as
opposed
to
keeping
it
with
the
gravel
in
anticipation
of
the
second
lot
being
built
someday
and
or
are
we
going
to
who's
going
to
be
required
to
plane
that
easement
I
mean
right
now
we
don't
have
any
requirements
to
remove
snow
from
alleys.
Are
we
going
to
treat
the
easement
in
like
an
alley
and
nobody
maintains
it?
They
just
have
to
drive
over
it,
or
is
somebody
going
to
be
required
to
maintain
that.
A
So
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
we
wrap
up
the
discussion
on
this
since
we
have.
This
has
been
about
30
minutes
of
discussion.
A
I
think
there's
some
good
insight
here
on
the
easement
and
the
issues
related
that
I'd
like
somebody
to
take
a
stab
at,
maybe
making
a
recommendation
that
we
asked
the
applicant
to
think
about
how
how,
if
a
property,
if
the
property
was
developed,
adjacent
how
they
would
maintain
an
easement
agreement
and
and
if
we're
moving
the
pushes
or
doing
other
things
to
have
a
better
understanding
to
present
that
to
the
lenders.
A
Commission
and
then
I
think
the
conditions
of
the
zoning
administrator,
as
well
as
the
removal
of
the
concrete
patio
all
make
sense
in
terms
of
moving
this
forward.
A
D
Johanna,
if
I
may,
they
did
also
mention
at
the
land
use
commission
actually
looking
into
allowing
the
curb
cut
on
washington,
and
we
were
asked
to
provide
some
traffic
data
on
if
a
single-family
home
were
built
on
that
lot
and
exited
used
washington.
D
I
have
done
some
like
mock-ups,
showing
that
a
house
can
fit
and
have
the
the
have.
The
house
shifted
to
the
west,
which
then
would
forego
this
conversation
with
the
easement.
So
I
don't
know
how
that
obviously
dapper
is
making
the
recommendation,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
wanted
how
that
information
would
affect
what
you're
we're
ultimately
recommending
like
if
we're
going
to
tell
like
still
recommend
no
curb
cut
under
washington,
and
then
we
just
kind
of
provide
that
information
to
the.
A
Well,
I
think
some,
if
we're
trying
to
reduce
the
impermeable
surface,
adding
a
curb
cut
in
a
driveway
increases
impermeable
surface.
So
I
don't
think,
given
the
hesitancy
of
this
body
to
recommend
more
impermeable
surface
curb
cut
is
is
in
is
this
group's
position?
But
I
don't
know
if
that,
if
I'm
seeing
sort
of
slight
nods
and
leaving
crushed
stone
in
the
driveway
at
the
existing
property,
only
to
add
hardscape
adjacent
seems
like
a
lose-lose.
D
H
G
A
I
think
most
of
us
would
find
that
evans
in
evanston.
Nobody
has
ever
really
had
a
problem
finding
parking,
it's
just
the
perception
that
people
want
to
park
right
in
front
of
where
they're
going
right.
I
think
that's.
The
challenge
we
face
in
evanston
is
that
people
want
to
park
right
in
front
of
where
they're
going
and
so.
A
Right,
I
think
we're
in
agreement.
We
don't
want
to
see
a
curb
cut
here,
yeah
so,
but
somebody
who
buys
this
lot
and
develops
it
as
a
home
might
feel
otherwise,
but
they
want
to
have
a
space
to
park
all
their
cars
if
they
have
multiple
cars,
all
right.
Third
time's,
the
charm.
Anyone
want
to
make
a
motion.
E
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
recommend
approval
to
the
land
use
commission
subject
to
that.
The
new
lot
is
not
granted
any
variations
on
building
lot
coverage
and
impervious
surface
coverage
that
the
existing
structure
on
the
on
the
corner.
Lot.
If
that's
ever
removed
that
any
new
structure,
any
new
construction
complies
with
the
current
zoning
code
that
there's
no
curb
cut
under
washington
and
that
the
existing
concrete
patio
is
replaced
with
a
permeable
surface
material.
B
I
C
E
A
All
right
next
up,
1801
central
street,
is
off
and
will
likely
be
next
week
we're
waiting
on
pending
a
law
decision.
Next
up
is
618
davis
street.
This
is
a
recommendation
of
the
zoning
administrator
amar
amur
hussein,
lee
c
submits
for
an
administrative
reviews
for
a
medical
office
at
covid
test
facility
in
the
d2
downtown
retail
core
district.
J
A
Katie,
why
do
screenshare
to
show
for
the
application
emer?
Do
you
want
to
go
over?
What
you're
proposing
to
do.
J
Sure
yeah
so
at
618
davis
street.
So
what
I'm
proposing
to
do
is
put
up
a
go
with
test
center,
so
it's
a
350
square
foot
building
and
so
it's
in
the
events
and
area.
So
that's
what
I'm
currently
planning
to
propose
to
do.
J
Sure,
right
now,
so
what
I'm
planning
so,
as
you
can
see
the
main,
the
entrances
there's
the
main
entrance
and
the
people
will
that
will
enter
through
and
there
will
be
few
of
the.
J
So
a
few
of
the
tables
that
will
be
allocated
at
the
sides
and
we'll
have
a
will
be
within
across
six
feet:
distance
on
maintaining
social,
distancing
and
yeah
and
we'll
have
some
of
the
chairs
that
set
up
here
at
the
side
towards
the
right
side
of
the
front
desk
and
the
within
those
across
six
feet.
Distancing
will
have
labels
put
across
the
floor
where
people
can
stand,
wait
and
stand
in
line
as
they
go
through
the
testing
process.
A
J
Sure
yeah
there
will
be
nothing
outside
so
we'll
only
take
the
people
will
definitely
make
sure.
There's
social
income
distancing
when
people
are
inside
and
yeah
we'll
make
sure
that
there's
no
queuing
outside.
B
E
C
G
A
D
The
2424
oakton,
the
salvation
army
will
be
returning
for
a
determination
or
recommendation
from
the
from
dapper.
Okay,
all
right,
and
they
have
been
noticed
for
the
march
9th
land
use
commission
meeting.