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A
Okay,
then,
is
there
a
motion
to
prove
the
minute.
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D
Eckersburg
hi
hank.
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A
A
Okay,
all
right,
first
item
2648
sheridan
road,
darian,
halligan
applicant,
submits
for
major
zoning
variation
to
construct
a
circular
driveway
on
sheridan
road,
where
circular
driveways
are
only
permitted
on
lots
with
frontage
along
ridge
avenue
and
crawford
avenue,
and
to
cover
38.25
percent
of
the
front
yard.
With
a
circular
driveway,
where
30
of
the
maximum
amount
is
the
maximum
amount
of
permitted
in
the
r1
single
family,
residential
district
zba
is
which
is
the
determining
body.
A
So
I
see
the
applicant
design.
Would
you
like
to
walk
us
through
the
proposal.
G
Yeah,
that
would
be
great.
Can
I
share
my.
A
G
G
Okay,
thank
you,
everybody
for
listening
to
our
proposal.
I
also
have
with
me
I'm
darian
halligan,
I'm
the
owner.
I
also
have
with
me
clifftown
who's.
Our
architect
is
on
the
meeting
alex
weissman,
who
is
my
developer
and
then
david
meek.
Who
is
my
attorney.
G
So
after
we
got
finished
answering
all
of
the
questions,
what
we
saw
was
that
there
were
common
themes
and
reasons
why
the
half
circle
drive
really
worked
best
and
in
this
context,
I'd
like
everyone
to
remember
that
this
is
a
single-family
home
with
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
G
So
there
are
two
middle-aged
residents:
two
elderly
one
is
71,
the
other
one
is
81,
and
then
two
young
children
of
five
and
two
years
old
and
the
common
themes
were
really
that
the
half
circle
drive
allowed
for
increased
safety
for
the
children
and
for
the
two
mothers
increased
safety
for
the
events
in
residences.
G
The
half
circle
driveway
allowed
for
the
adu
housing
elderly
requires
when
you
have
an
adu
and
they
have
limited
space
that
we
have
on
this
property.
You
really
need
to
have
a
creative
traffic
flow
design
and
that's
what
the
half
circle
allows
us
to
do.
G
G
So
here
are
the
hardships
that
we've
identified
first
off
the
addition
of
adu
results
in
more
drivers
than
a
typical
single
family
home.
I'm
a
driver,
my
wife's
driver
we
have
both.
G
Both
parents
are
drivers
so,
and
then
we
plan
to
be
here
for
a
very
very
long
time,
and
so
I
anticipate
at
one
point
in
time
both
the
kids,
you
know-
maybe
even
a
third
child,
also
being
drivers,
also
with
with
having
an
adu
with
this
particular
purpose,
is
that
we
have
to
consider
what
makes
sense
for
the
elderly
I'll
go
into
more
detail
about
the
current
garage.
G
But
the
current
garage
that
sits
here
is
really
problematic
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons
and
I'll
go
into
some
some
reasons
for
that
a
little
bit
later.
G
Another
thing
is
that
the
hennesseys
were
granted
this
variant
a
couple
of
years
ago,
their
property
just
to
the
north.
Well,
we
have
a
tremendous,
a
tremendous
amount
less
space
than
than
they
did
to
create
their
half
circle
drive
and
that
created
some
that
created
some
problems
with
the
design
of
this.
G
In
addition,
especially
due
to
the
bike
lane,
when
the
hennesseys
had
were
granted
the
variation
there,
there
was
no
bike
lane,
and
so
there
was
actually
a
full
median
in
the
center
of
sheridan
road
which
allowed
for
cars
to
sit
and
hang
out
or
delivery
vehicles
to
sit
and
hang
out,
because
there
is
now
a
bike
lane
there
that
median
in
the
center
no
longer
exists
and
in
the
zoning
boards
of
appeals.
G
Meeting
in
2017,
alderman
ravel
recognized
that
that
even
back,
then
that
there
were
similarities
with
with
crawford
and
and
and
ridge
road
and
now,
with
the
bike
lane,
there's
even
more
similarities.
That
sheridan
has
that
with
with
ridge
and
crawford.
G
And
of
course,
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
remember,
we're
right
across
the
street
from
a
a
heavily
trafficked
park,
so
there's
a
lot
of
persons
that
are
turning
into
that
park.
And,
of
course,
there's
no
parking.
There's
no
parking
on
sheridan
road.
G
All
right,
so
the
first
obvious
question
is:
why
not
use
the
alley?
Well,
the
alley
is
challenging
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
First
off
I
have
two
elderly
that
are
gonna
be
living
with
us
and
in
the
dead
of
winter,
walking
outside
a
hundred
feet
to
the
alley
is
just
really
difficult
hard
for
all
of
us,
especially
hard
for
them.
G
As
importantly,
the
alley
is
unpaved
and
does
not
drain
well
at
all,
and
what
happens
is
that
every
time
it
rains
there
is
water
that
just
sits
in
that
alley,
almost
the
entire
length
of
the
alley,
and
then
talking
to
all
of
the
talking
to
the
majority
of
the
residences
that
use
that
alley.
All
of
them
have
said
that
you
know
that
water
sits.
There
builds
up
an
ice
and
it's
really
an
ice
skating
rink
in
in
in
the
winter,
and
then
also
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
the
lot.
G
I've
got
a
picture
of
it
up
here
and
you
notice
that
the
lot
mimics
the
design
of
the
alley,
but
my
garage
is
kind
of
square
north,
south
east
west.
Well,
when
you're
looking
at
the
alley
because
of
the
design
of
the
alley,
my
garage,
almost
kind
of
sticks
out
a
little
bit
inside
of
the
alley
and
what
happens
because
of
that
is
that
the
easiest
access
out
of
the
garage
is
to
the
north.
G
It's
extremely
difficult
to
turn
a
car
to
the
left
coming
out
of
the
garage
or,
if
you're
backing
up
to
do
that,
left-hand
turn
it
and
and
then
go
north.
Because
of
because
of
where
that
garage
is
situated.
I
don't
have
an
offset
where
all
of
the
other
garages
on
that
alley.
They
have
a
two
three
four
foot
offset
which
allows
them
more
maneuverability.
G
In
addition
to
that,
my
neighbor
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley
so
on
the
west
side
of
the
alley
he's
got
a
whole
fence
there
and
that-
and
I
I
don't
and
in
comparison
to
everybody
else
in
the
alley
I
have
because
of
that
fence
and
because
I
don't
have
an
offset
in
my
garage,
I'm
I
have
the
least
amount
of
width
to
navigate
a
car
in
and
out
of
that,
oh
whoops,
sorry,
I
don't
know
what
happened
there
so
because
of
that
you
know
I'm
limited
to
where
I
can
really
exit.
G
So
I
can
really
just
exit
to
the
north
or
maybe
enter
in
from
the
north
side,
and
that's
also
the
long
way
you
know
I'm
very
close
to
center
street.
The
other
one
is
ingleside.
I
have
to
try
to
traverse
the
entire
alley
to
get
there.
There's
often
trucks
there,
delivery
trucks,
there's
garbage
trucks.
So
it's
really
it's
really
a
difficult
ally
to
navigate,
and
I
really
feel
for
especially
for
my
family
that
it's
not
a
matter
of
if
an
accident
will
happen,
but
really
a
matter
of
when.
G
The
hammerhead
design
is
also
more
hazardous
because
of
the
multi-point
turns
that
you
would
have
to
do
it's
just
more
hazardous
for
the
elderly
and
for
visitors
and
for
delivery
trucks
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
G
We
couldn't
do
a
hammerhead
to
the
north,
because
there's
there's
the
hennesseys
there
and
what
made
most
sense
was
a
hammerhead
with
an
exit
to
the
south
side,
because
that
gave
the
biggest
amount
of
space
in
order
to
turn
the
cars
into
the
garage
and
with
that
plan,
the
percentage
of
space
for
the
driveway
needed
in
comparison
to
the
offset
actually
exceeded
more
than
50
percent,
which
was
more
than
the
38
that
we're
proposing
now.
G
Other
issues
with
the
hammerhead
is
that
if
we
did
the
hammerhead
to
the
north,
the
cars
would
have
to
back
out
this
way
and
we
anticipate
the
kids
kind
of
running
out
of
the
front
yard
and
we
didn't
want
anybody
kind
of
backing
up
into
where
they'd
have
to
load.
The
kids
and
the
kids
would
have
to
cross
the
driveway,
and
we
really
thought
that
that
was
problematic
and
you
know.
G
A
G
G
G
On
a
on
a
separate
note,
the
finkel
property
had
a
20-foot
curb
cut
and
we're
just
asking
for
two
12
12
foot
cuts.
So
there's
not
that
much
difference,
and
then
this
is
really.
We
anticipate
this
being
a
dedicated
entry
by
the
garage
because
of
just
how
people
view
garages.
So
we
anticipate
that
everyone's
going
to
enter
in
on
the
enter
in
on
the
south
side
on
the
north
side
and
then
exit
on
on
on
the
south
side
and
then
last.
G
The
circular
drive
really
promotes
the
continued
use
of
the
adu
for
the
elderly,
which
you
know
supports
the
city
policy
objectives,
which
is
why
the
city
voted
for
the
adu.
That's
it.
F
Just
a
comment,
so
I
understand
that
this
proposal
is
part
of
your
addition
application.
Yes,
if,
if
this
is
approved,
a
separate
right-of-way
permit
would
still
be
needed
for
the
work
in
the
parkway.
So
just
so
you're
aware
of
that,
and
currently
there
is
a
moratorium
on
any
excavation
in
the
parkway
until
after
march.
First,
okay,
just
be
aware
of
those
points,
great.
C
Much
I
I
notice
on
the
drawing
that
there
is.
It's
indicated
that
the
the
driveway
would
be
heated.
Can
you
explain
that
a
little
bit
more
like
what
technology
would
be
used
or
how
that
would
be
achieved.
G
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question,
so
I'm
a
copious
shoveler
right
now.
I
live
in
the
city
of
chicago,
I'm
always
shoveling
my
alley,
and
so
I
kind
of
hate
shoveling.
G
So
there
are
there's
two
technologies
that
we're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
an
electric
technology
which
would
just
do
the
kind
of
front
the
the
front
area
from
the
garage
and
then
tire
tracks
on
kind
of
half
the
driveway,
and
then
I'm
going
to
be
comparing
that
against
a
kind
of
boiler
technology
which
uses
antifreeze
material,
which
would
be
which
would
allow
me
to
cover
more
of
the
front
driveway
at
a
much
less
cost
to
operate.
C
G
C
G
You
know
that's
a
question,
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
believe
that
they're
they
lay
underneath
the
the
driveway.
If
that
makes
sense,.
A
G
G
G
I
mean
this
is
these:
are
my
walls
and
I
I'm
an
avid
my
wife
and
I
are
avid
gardeners,
so
we
anticipate
using
that
existing
garage
for
a
for
a
workshop
and
a
place
for
all
the
stuff
that
we
have
to
do
all
of
our
gardening,
the
the
parking
pad
I
put
that
there,
because
I
I
don't
know
if
I
necessarily
need
it,
but
in
just
in
case
I
do
have
overflow.
G
B
While
I
understand
all
your
reasoning,
if
you
do
change
your
mind
and
you
end
up
using
the
existing
garage
as
an
actual
garage,
which
is
what
its
intended
purpose
really
is
not
as
a
dedicated
shed
for
you
and
the
20
by
20
parking
pad
and
the
very
large
heated
driveway,
that
is
taking
up
the
majority
of
your
front
yard,
that
is
a
lot
of
space
that
is
hardened
in
the
yard.
For
the
sole
purpose
of
storing
cars.
G
Sure
I
understand
that,
but
I'm
not
going
to
change
my
mind.
I've
thought
a
lot
about
my
needs
for
my
family
and
I'd
like
you
to
also
remember
I
I
mean
this
is
a.
This
is
really
a
multi-family
now
we're
because
I
have
the
adu.
This
is
a
multi-family
residence.
This
is
a
my
family
and
this
is
the
residents
of
the
adu
family.
You
know
at
one
point
in
time
I
could
have
one
two
three
four.
I
could
have
seven
different
drivers.
G
I
don't
know
if
I'll
get
to
that
point,
but
I
don't
I
I'm
not
going
to
be
changing
my
mind
to
use
the
existing
garage
as
another
place
to
store
vehicles.
B
B
G
G
B
Well,
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
have
accessory
drilling
units
and
don't
have
space
for
this
many
cars.
My
guess
is,
is
that
you
could
easily
without
the
parking
pad
store
seven
cars,
because
your
front
yard
driveway's
proposal
is
actually
quite
large.
I'd
be
more
inclined
to
support
it
if
the
driveway
were
not
so
large
in
the
front
yard.
It's
a
lot
of
the
space.
G
Yeah,
so
we
looked
at
also
trying
to
reduce
it
to
the
30
percent
and
for
the
safety
reasons
it
just
didn't
work
out
it
actually
the
one
drawing
that
the
drawing
that
we
had
that
reduced
it
to
30
percent.
H
And
they
add
something
more
with
this
kind
of
language
we
created,
and
obviously
this
is
a
little
bit
more
driving,
because
there
and
once
you
steal
perfectly-
will
sit
under
the
provision
of
the
requirements
of
the
impervious
area,
which
is
very
well
honored.
H
Yes,
what
I'm
saying
that
we
still
sit
very
well
under
the
provision
of
the
and
requirements
of
the
previous
area,
so
we
weigh
under
the
impervious
area
requirements.
Still
this
a
little
bit
bigger
front
drive.
I
Yeah,
I
guess
I
just
the
two
large
curb
cuts
or
really,
I
think,
any
curb
cut
in
the
right
of
way
where
there's
alley
access
to
me.
It's
not
an
equitable
use
of
public
property,
it's
really
exclusively
dedicated
to
your
own
use
and
your
family's
use.
I
I
think
in
general
the
city
is
trying
to
close
curb
cuts
along
major
roadways,
not
increase
them.
I
think,
that's
probably
largely
because
they
degrade
the
continuity
of
the
streetscape,
in
this
case
too
they're
somewhat
damaging
to
the
integrity
of
setting
of
the
adjacent
properties.
This
is
it's
in
a
federal,
historic
district.
I
This
this
case
for
my
colleagues
is
kind
of
reminds
me
of
the
colfax
case.
We
reviewed
a
few
weeks
ago,
where
you
know
this.
This
property
did
receive
zoning
relief.
I
think,
a
year
or
two
ago
for
for
a
curb
cut
and
now
I
think
we're
just
we're
reviewing
it
again
and
trying
to
make
kind
of
a
undesirable
situation
situation
a
little
bit
better.
Maybe
I'm
not
sure-
and
I
think
in
general,
I've
heard
it
a
lot
of
inconveniences
and
really
aesthetic
preferences,
but
I'm
not
certain
what
the
hardship
is.
I
Is
it
the
alley?
I
don't.
I
don't
know,
what's
peculiar
to
this
property
that
that
makes
compliance
not
possible.
You
know
I
have
trouble
believing
that
the
conditions
of
the
alley
are
so
poor
that
you
can't
traverse
it
and
then
I'm
a
little
confused
too.
Why
the
the
addition
in
the
adu,
why
that
can't
be
placed
at
the
rear
volume
of
the
structure
and
have
the
necessary
parking
be
accessed
from
the
alley.
I
So
I
guess
my
biggest
problems
with
the
proposal,
especially
as
you
progress
to
the
zoning
board
is
that
the
hardship
just
seems
self-created
to
me.
I
think,
there's
alternatives
and
a
lot
of
alternatives
you
could
explore.
I
just
I
think
you
have
a
preference
for
this
aesthetically
and
for
your
own
convenience.
I
It's
a
substantially
sized
lot
and
it
has
alley
access,
there's
no
parking
requirement
for
the
adu.
I
want
to
point
that
out,
you
don't
you
don't
have
to
have
required
parking
and
I
agree
with
laura's
points
about
the
existing
garage
and
the
proposed
parking
pad.
It's
it's
just
a
lot
of
space
for
storage
of
vehicles,
and
then
I
I
guess,
if
we
do,
I
lean
towards
a
negative
recommendation
for
this.
I
A
All
right,
mr
meeks,
did
you
have
something
to
add.
I
agree.
A
That
I
don't
think
we
can
hear
you
well,
I
think
david
meek
wanted
to
speak,
but
I
don't
know
if
he
I
think
we're
on
a.
We
can't
hear
his
audio.
J
Great
thanks
so
I'd
like
to
address
some
of
mr
sterling's
comments,
so
this
property
had
been
not
in
this
original
configuration
of
a
single
zoning
lot
and
then
it
was
divided
and
now
it's
being
restored
into
a
single
zoning
lot.
And
yes,
there
was
relief
granted
to
provide
a
curb
cut
in
the
front
to
access
the
north
half
of
the
property,
but
that
was
when
this
was
a
two
lot:
two
building
site.
J
Now
it's
been
consolidated,
so
a
a
single
curb
cut
to
serve
a
front-loaded
garage,
I
think,
would
be
permissible
for
this
property
because
it
had
been
a
curb
cut,
had
been
granted.
The
determination
that
that
was
appropriate
had
been
granted.
In
fact,
a
front
loading
curb
cut
had
existed
previously
under
the
prior
home
situation.
J
The
one
of
the
concerns
about
reducing
this
below
the
38
proposal
is
the
narrowness
of
the
curve
of
the
driveway
or
the
tightness
of
the
radius
of
the
driveway.
If
you
try
to
reduce
the
area
to
30,
so
it's
it's
an
8
variance
from
what's
allowed
in
this.
In
this
front
yard
area,
under
the
35
foot
setback
with
respect
to
the
hardship
about
the
existing
garage,
I
think
what
we
see
as
being
part
of
hardship
is
fight,
especially
by
him
in
edu.
J
So,
for
example,
it's
a
more
than
100
feet
from
the
garage,
the
house
and
especially
in
inclement
weather,
that
could
be
difficult
for
elderly
people
and
as
a
building
with
an
edu
when
this,
when,
when
the
halligan's
no
longer
living
here,
presumably
this
will
be
attractive
as
a
house
with
adu
compatibility
or
accessibility,
and
so
we'll
also
have
more
be
more
attracted
to
the
residents,
he's
perfectly
entitled
to
convert
his
garage
into
a
shed
or
to
build
a
different
shed
and
keep
it
keep
a
garage
or
not
have
a
garage
at
all
and
only
have
a
parking
pad.
J
So
I
think
that
the
fact
that
he
has
proposers
considering
a
parking
pad
shouldn't
be
held
against
him.
Notwithstanding
that
he's
looking
to
create
something
in
the
front
he's
looking
to
create
a
situation
where
the
turning
movements
are
not
in
conflict
with
each
other,
where
he's
creating
a
situation,
that's
best,
he
thinks
best
for
elderly
drivers
whose
responsiveness
is
not
as
quick
as
some
of
the
rest
of
us
and
whose
vision
may
not
be.
J
You
know
as
perfect
in
a
sense
of
depth,
might
be
somewhat
impaired,
but
also
he's
creating
space
for
off-street
temporary
guest
parking,
which
he
doesn't
have
on
sheridan
road.
So
any
of
the
guest
parking
that
he'd
want
to
hand
would
need
to
be
provided
either
on-site
or
his
guests
would
need
to
go
more
than
a
block
away
and
and
then
walk
all
the
way
back
to
the
house.
J
J
Road
and
I'll
just
remind
you
that
that
backing
on
the
sheridan,
especially
with
without
a
median
in
the
middle,
can
be
challenging
because
you've
got
two-way
traffic
traversing
here
and
you
especially
go
north
you've
got
to
you've,
got
to
cross
southbound
traffic
and
enter
into
northbound
traffic
to
exit
that's
kind
of
what
I
ended
up.
Thank
you.
G
And
so
and
hold
on
cade,
I
I
can
talk
to
you
about
the
location
of
why
we
put
it.
Why
we
put
it
here
instead
of
further
back.
I
actually
I
thought
about
further
back,
but
from
right
now
the
current
mudroom
of
the
house
is
literally
right
here,
it's
right
here
and
yeah.
It's
it's!
G
So
that's
you
know,
to
put
it
further
back,
it
would
I'd
have
to
really
rework
the
entire
workflow
of
the
entire
house,
and
that
would
just
cost
an
astronomical
amount
of
money
money
that
I
just
don't
have
so
it,
and
so
I'm
not
it's
it's
I'm
not
being
flipped
when
I
say
that
that
you
know
aesthetically,
this
also
happens
to
look
look
the
best
as
well.
B
A
All
right
so
we've
been
doing
this
for
about
40
minutes
at
this
point
for
a
driveway,
so
I
want
to
take.
I
think,
jessica,
wanted
to
speak
to
say
something
and
if
there's
any
more
comments,
then
I
want
to
put
this
in
then
maybe
lara
and
if
there's
any
other
comments,
I
want
to
put
this
to
a
vote
and
move
on
to
the
next
item.
E
So
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
I
I
also
do
not
see
the
hardship
that
is
created
necessitating
these
two
curb
cuts.
There
has
been
mention
about
the
nearby
park.
Evanston
is
very
walkable,
particularly
this
area.
Increasing
the
curb
cuts,
increases
conflict
points
where
you
have
people
who
are
walking
their
dogs
taking
their
children
to
the
park
by
walking
there,
and
this
is
more
likely
to
result
in
a
crash
with
a
car
and
a
pedestrian
by
having
these
curb
cuts
here.
E
E
Aarp
research,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
walking
with
elderly
and
getting
the
bus
stops,
and
so
the
the
recommended
distance
is
about
a
quarter
mile
for
a
bus,
stop
walk,
and
we
know
that
a
lot
of
seniors
rely
on
public
transit
to
get
around
because
they
do
start
having
vision,
impairment
and
can
no
longer
drive.
E
And
so,
as
far
as
you
know,
being
able
to
walk
a
hundred
feet,
I'm
just
not
seeing
that
as
a
hardship
either
and
it's
there
there's
actually
a
lot
of
research
that
shows
by
aarp
that
if
a
person
who
is
a
senior
cannot
walk
a
quarter
mile,
that
their
life
expectancy
substantially
decreases
to
less
than
five
years.
And
so
it's
really
important
that
elderly
people
are
walking
at
least
a
quarter
mile
every
day.
G
So
really,
this
is
a
comparison
between
a
single
curb
cut
and
a
double
curb,
cut,
half
circle
drive
and
there's
when
you
compare
those
two
options
it
is,
it
is
a
and
you
do
the
actual
workflow
of
the
cars
and
the
vehicles
and
figure
out
who's
going
to
be
walking
where
and
who's
going
to
be
driving
whom
and
how
are
those
cars
going
to
be?
You
know
going
on
to
sheridan
if
you
want
to
ensure
that
the
car
always
drives
forward
onto
sheridan,
which
I
think
is
the
best
way.
G
The
half
circle
is
astoundingly
easier
and
safer
to
do
that
and
that's
why
we're
proposing
it
in
comparison
to
a
single
curb
cut
and
that's
how
we're
looking
at
it
and
that's
how
I
would
like
you
know
I
would.
I
would
respectfully
request
that
that
you
guys
look
at
it
as
well.
A
B
Okay,
I
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying
it
is
better
for
people
to
drive
forward
onto
sheridan
road
rather
than
back
out
onto
sheridan
road,
but
you
have
whether
you
choose
to
use
it
this
way
or
not.
You
are
proposing
for
parking
spaces
off
the
alley
and,
what's
even
better
than
traffic
entering
and
exiting
sheridan
road
is
traffic
entering
and
exiting
the
alley,
which
is
what
is
preferred
in
the
city
of
evanston.
B
B
I
I
I
I
just
it
reminds
me
so
much
of
the
colfax
case.
Where
it's
you
know
it's,
I
don't.
I
don't
want
our
hand
to
be
forced,
I
think,
as
a
committee,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
to
set
a
new
precedent
here,
where
we
don't
approve,
curb
cuts
where
there's
viable
alley
access.
It's
it's
just
an
outdated
practice
and
it
really
degrades
the
public
space
that
we
have.
A
So
I
would,
I
would
echo
the
comments
that
I've
heard
from
my
colleagues
as
well-
and
I
have
I
think,
I've
expressed
this
for
years.
I
have
concerns
that
we
allow
curb
cuts
and
driveways
because
of
particular
family
situations.
We
have
elderly
people
that
reside
all
over
evanston.
That
would
likely
appreciate
a
better,
easier
way:
preference
over
a
front
door
over
a
back
door
or
side
door
or
whatever,
and
so
I
think
I'm
I'm
deeply
concerned
about
the
president
that
that
sets
in
terms
of
paving
state
open
space.
A
I
think
the
concerns
about
the
alley
being
flooded
are
not
improved
by
adding
more
impervious
surface
to
adjacent
properties,
so
I
will
not
be
providing
a
positive
recommendation
for
this,
but
I
do
think
if
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
does
decide
to
move
move
forward.
I
would
hope
that
you
would
be
within
the
the
30
lot
coverage
the
impervious
surface
percentage
in
order
to
try
to
meet
that,
because
I
do
think
that
this
is.
A
That
does
a
driveway
like
this
does
does
resolve
that
issue,
but
to
cade's
point
I
am
con
and
lara
as
I'm
concerned
about
the
number
of
vehicles
for
this
particular
property
that
we
would
be
making
accommodations
for
at
the
expense
of
safety,
curb
cuts,
other
other
issues
and
and
generate
traffic.
And
then
I
don't
know
how
much
you
you
reviewed
the
previous
case
where
there
was
an
approval.
A
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
colleague,
but
I
don't
think
dapper
recommended
approval
of
that
of
those
curb
cuts
at
the
time
for
for
that
or
there
at
least
for
several
of
us
who
voted
against
that
because
again
wanting
to
address
the
similar
issues
that
with
ali
access,
not
having
access
to
sheridan
road.
A
So
if
there's
any,
if
there's
no
more
comments,
somebody
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
would
be
great.
F
A
A
D
B
D
E
I
F
D
D
A
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right
next
item,
2922
central
street
thomas
ailman
applicant
submits
for
building
permit
to
alter
the
exterior
facade
of
a
one-story
commercial
building.
Chris
cafe
and
the
b1
business
district
and
central
street
overlay
district.
K
Sure,
thanks
for
hopefully
this
one
will
be
a
little
bit
more
straightforward
than
the
last
one
right.
So
susan
treisman,
the
owner
of
curtis,
cafe,
wants
to
update
the
space
and
bring
a
little
bit
more
light
in.
We
did
a
little
bit
of
exploratory
demo
and
saw
that
the
lintel
for
this,
for
the
improvement
on
the
right
is
actually
at
the
same
height
as
the
the
adjacent
steel
lintel.
K
So
just
to
be
clear,
we're
only
talking
about
the
part
of
the
storefront,
that's
on
the
right
side,
there's
no
change
to
the
lighting,
the
canopy
or
the
signage,
it's
taking
off
the
wood
and
basically
removing
some
some
framing
that
lowered
the
head
of
the
window
and
replacing
the
the
window.
That
is
now
a
single
single
pane,
not
insulated
with
modern
energy
code
compliant
storefront,
glazing,
new
door
and
a
vestibule.
K
We
did
talk
to
walter
halen
about
the
vestibule
and
any
egress
issues,
and-
and
he
was
on
board
with
with
basically
putting
the
vestibule
back
where
it
was.
The
one
unique
item
is
the
opening
windows.
The
permit
comment
that
we
got
back
was
regarding
insects.
K
So
the
plan
now
is
to
have
we
looked
at
screens
and
an
air
curtain
and
the
owner
elected
to
go
the
air
current
route,
so
the
materials
I
mentioned,
the
storefront
and
then
it's
a
limestone
knee
wall
to
match
the
the
rest
of
the
storefront.
K
J
B
B
K
So
well,
right
now,
there's
there's
a
we're,
not
creating
a
new
ramp
there.
The
this,
the
walk
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
vestibule
is
sloped
right
now
it's
in
bad
shape,
we're
just
kind
of
chipping
out,
what's
kind
of
already
starting
to
chip
out
on
its
own
and
reporting.
It.
B
I
It's
the
I'd,
want.
I
had
one
question
about
the
storefront
that
it's
adjacent
to
it.
Has
that
kind
of
stone,
banding
above
the
storefront
window?
Did
you
consider
continuing
that
above
the
the
new
intervention
here.
K
Well,
we
have
not
done
the
exterior
demo.
We
basically
removed
the
soffit
on
the
inside
to
see
that
it
is
framed.
We,
my
x-ray
vision,
isn't
working
this
week,
so
I
don't
know
exactly
what's
above
that
there
could
be
limestone.
K
Kurt's
cafe
is
a
non-profit,
that's
operating
on
a
shoestring
I
think
susan
would
say,
and
so
we're
trying
to
clean
things
up,
make
it
more
functional
if
there's
limestone
there.
Great,
I
agree,
would
look
better,
but
it
wasn't
one
of
susan's
priorities
for
for
for
this
improvement.
I
K
Well,
that
wasn't
the
brief
that
was
given
to
us
by
the
owner.
The
the
brief
that
was
given
to
us
by
the
owner
was
to
make
the
storefront
more
energy
efficient
and
bring
more
natural
light
in.
We
raised
the
head
up
quite
a
bit
to
bring
natural
light
further
back
into
the
space,
the
facade
of
this
building
kind
of
steps
back
as
you
move
east,
and
so
you
can
kind
of
see
in
that
perspective
that
the
the
storefront
that
we're
replacing
is
already
stepped
back.
K
I
think
it's
about
two
feet
from
the
wall
from
the
storefront
to
the
west
of
it.
What
you're
proposing
would
involve
losing
interior
space
and
would
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
major
change
than
she
was
was
hoping
to
accomplish.
One
of
her
goals
is
to
have,
and
I
mean
it's
not
part
of
my
proposal,
but
she
is
interested
in
having
outdoor
seating
there.
K
Obviously,
given
current
conditions,
that's
even
more
desirable,
so
the
plan
is
to
activate
that
space,
which
is
which
is
possible
because
the
storefront
already
steps
back.
I
I
see
okay,
my
only
other
comment
is
not
related
to
a
proposal
at
all,
but
this
the
awnings
are
so
strange
if
you
could
get
lowering
them.
There
is
such
an
odd
height
on
this
building,
but
it's
neither
here
nor
there
really,
but.
F
So
just
where
we're
at
with
the
permit
status,
are
we
waiting
for
revisions
from
you.
K
You
are
we,
it
was
a
recent
decision
by
susan
to
go
with
the
air
curtain
and
I
thought
that
might
also
the
resolution
of
that
might
also
be
relevant
to
what
you
all
are
looking
at,
whether
it's
screen
or
just
an
air
curtain
that
handles
the
insects.
So
we
we
will.
We
will
make
that
change
when
we
hear
from
you
guys.
F
D
Yes,
tristan.
D
A
Thank
you
a
couple
things
housekeeping
things
for
dapper.
Michael,
do
we
have
items
for
next
week.
D
We
have
potentially
one
item.
I
think
it's
1811
emerson,
it's
an
adjustment
to
the
pd,
but
I'm
waiting
to
hear
back
from
megan.
So
we
may
not
have
a
meeting
next
week.
A
Yeah
they
are
prepared
to
go
if
we
have
a
meeting.
Okay,
so
close
all
right.
So
it
sounds
like
we'll
have
a
meeting,
an
adjustment
to
a
plan
development,
and
then
we
would
have
a
meeting
on
the
16th
as
well,
and
then
the
plan
would
likely
be
to
not
have
a
meeting
on
the
23rd
and
likely
not
the
30th.