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D
A
C
D
I
don't
see
mario
okay
jones,
hi
and
sterling
hi.
B
D
E
D
C
D
A
Great
new
business,
1601
pain
street
stolen
smokes
submit
for
an
outdoor
cafe
for
use
of
the
parkway
for
seating
in
the
mxe
mixed-use
employment
district.
I
think
I
saw
someone
on
for
soul
and
smoke
yeah.
A
A
A
H
Yeah,
so
we
were
hoping
to
put
out
four
tables
out
front
just
for
seating.
We
wouldn't
be
like
doing
waiter,
service
or
anything,
but
just
so
people
could
grab
food
enjoy
it.
H
Sure
yeah
we
have
a
landscape
company
that
takes
care
of
the
parkway.
I
can
make
sure
that
they'll
restore
it.
B
One
concern
that
frequently
comes
up
with
outdoor
seating
is
trash
management
and
litter.
Do
you
have
any
provisions
in
place
to
try
to
control
litter.
C
H
H
Sure
yeah
I
haven't,
talked
to
our
neighbors
directly
across
the
street.
It's
a
church.
They
haven't
been
there
this
year
at
all
and
then
next
door
to
us.
They're
frequent
customers,
they're
the
american
vintage
homes
is
kitty
corner
from
us.
A
So
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
make
sure
you
talk
to
everybody
who
might
on
the
block
face
and
that
might
be
affected
in
in
terms
of
seeing
something
different,
even
if
the
church
isn't
there.
If
there's,
if
there's
a
number,
you
can
call
or
something
just
to
give
people
a
heads
up,
that's
happening.
J
A
So
I
would
say
we
run
these
just
and
I'm
I'm
looking
for
feedback
when
from
others
here
that
we
put
the
date
of
november
first,
similar
to
the
on-street
dining
the
non-sidewalk
dining.
We
stayed
consistent.
We've
said
that's
the
november
first
date,
given
that
you
have
snow
storage
issues.
What
do
you
all
think
about
that.
B
A
A
D
B
D
Cano
edgar
sorry,
I
missed
you
before.
I
noticed
dad
hi.
C
F
E
Mike
mario
tristan
here,
oh
mario,
sorry,
I
was
running
late
having
trouble
with
the
computer.
A
You're
ready
to
go
just
talk
to
gary
check
in
with
gary
he's,
not
at
the
meeting
today
but
and
it
looks
like
you
have
you've
provided
all
your
information,
but
maybe
just
double
check
with
him,
and
he
will
know
that
you've
been
approved.
A
Portions
of
the
parcel
are
currently
located
in
the
r4
general
residential
district,
r5
general
residential
district
and
west
evanston
overlay
district.
All
right,
mr
cleary
you're
on.
Why
don't
you
walk
us
through
some?
Some
folks
on
here
are
familiar
with
what
you
want
to
do
and
some
are
not
so
if
you
want
to
walk
through
what
you're
proposing
that
would
be
great.
K
Hi,
how
are
you
I'm
a
resident
of
evanston?
I've
lived
in
evidence
for
about
six
or
seven
years.
I've
lived
on
wesley
street
on
the
1800
block.
I've
lived
on
the
I
now
live
on
the
2200
block,
so
I'm
I'm
I'm
coming
at
this
as
a
resident
as
well
as
a
developer
and
property
owner,
and
we've
talked
to
several
of
the
neighbor
neighbors
in
the
area,
and
you
know
some
of
their
concerns
were
relation
to
height
density
and
things
like
this.
K
But
this
property
has
been
sitting
idle
and
vacant,
I'm
not
sure
how
long,
but
it
was
a
railroad
easement
before
this.
So
there
was
a
railroad
on
it
and
I
know
going
back
to
the
turn
of
the
century.
K
It
has
been
used
as
a
railroad
and
I
don't
think
anything
else
has
ever
been
built
on
it,
except
for
the
one
existing
there's
one
existing
single
family
home
on
this
property
that
we
have
under
contract
to
purchase,
and
we
own
the
vast
majority
of
this
property.
K
We
own
an
acre
and
a
quarter,
and
we
we
did
extensive
research
of
the
overlay
of
west
evanson
and
and
went
into
all
the
concepts
and
went
into
all
the
ideas
behind
us
and
we
feel
that
what
we've
submitted
and
what
we're
looking
to
do,
you
know
being
at
townhouses,
are
exactly
what
the
overlay
of
west
evanson
was
looking
for
and
what
they
would
like
to
see
in
the
area
and
this
site
is
is,
is
contaminated.
We've
done
phase
one
and
phase
two
environmental
studies.
K
We
we
have
a
company
of
engineers
that
we
have
engaged
to
work
with
us
to
clean
this
site
up.
We
also
have
a
railroad
abutment
that
is
significantly
large.
It's
over.
It's
probably
about
20
feet
tall
and
runs
probably
40
or
50
people
in
length
and
we're
going
to
remove
that
as
well
and
again
beautify
the
area
and
landscape
it
a
little
bit
more
make
it
more
desirable
than
it
currently
is.
K
I
I
would
say
I'd
leave
it
over
to
you
to
ask
you
answer
your
question.
If
you
go
on
to
the
last
page
for
me
of
what
our
public
improvements
are,
I
think
if
we
could
do
that
joanna,
that
would
be
great.
K
So
we're
doing
33
units
and
we've
decided
to
put
you
know
we
believe
in
it-
in
affordable,
housing
and
affordable
housing
ordinance,
and
we
believe
that
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
put
them
on
site.
So
we've
we've
tried
to
devise
a
way.
The
current,
affordable,
iho
ordinance,
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
to
do
this
when
you're
building
condominiums
and
we've
figured
out
a
way
to
do
this
and
put
three
affordable
units
on
site.
K
K
Okay,
sorry,
I'm
gonna
kind
of
here
you
go
there
we
go
so
this
is
just
a
list
of
the
public
benefits
that
you
know:
we've
taken
it
we're
taking
a
site
that
is
undeveloped.
Nothing
has
been
done
with
this
site
for
I'm
going
to
say
you
know,
since
the
railroad
was
on
it
50
60
years
ago,
and
so
we're
we're
we're
removing
the
railroad
abutment
we're
on
green
bay
road
and
we're
it's
going
to
cost
us
approximately
150
thousand
dollars
to
do
that.
K
We're
cleaning
up
this
contaminated
green
field,
this
brownfield
size
or
environmental
engineers
estimate
it's
going
to
cost
somewhere
between
400
and
450
000.
To
do
that,
and
we're
also
going
to
extend
jackson
street
what
the
the
overlay
of
west
evanston
calls
for
is
to
extend
jackson
street
all
the
way
to
simpson
we're
not
actually
going
to
extend
it
all
the
way
to
simpson
we're
going
to
extend
it
to
the
end
of
our
property
line
and
then,
if
at
a
later
stage,
the
city
wants
to
take
it
towards
simpson.
K
This
the
street
will
be
there
to
continue
on
and
we'll
make
it
easy
for
them
to
continue
on
up
to
up
to
simpson
street.
If
that's,
if
that's
what
the
city
would
like
to,
do,
we
don't
own
the
piece
of
property
that
takes
it
further
than
our
lot
language.
So
it
would
be
very
difficult
for
us
to
do
that.
We're
also
going
to
create
three
affordable,
new,
affordable
houses
on
site
over
10
years.
K
We
estimate
that
there
will
be
approximately
2.6
million
dollars
in
real
estate
tax
revenue
created
and
with
this
project
there
will
be
about
160
jobs
created
in
the
construction
of
this
project.
If
you're
using
some
of
the
metrics
that
are
used
for
job
creation
with
dollar
spent
and
we'll
also
be
creating
21
moderately
priced
houses,
we
believe
that
these
will
be
somewhere
in
the
region
of
550
to
570
575
000.
What
will
also
happen
with
this
is
most
people
who've
used.
K
These
hands
will
be
actually
moving
up
from
condominiums
and
they'll,
be
trading
up
in
properties,
and
what
it'll
actually
do
is
it
will
relieve
lower
priced
units
which
are
more
entry-level
units
into
the
market
for
other
other
families
and
other
other
people
as
well,
so
it'll
actually
create
the
availability
of
lower
price
housing
because
of
people
trading
up
and
another
big
thing
that
the
overlay
of
west
atmosphere
wanted
to
do
was
they
wanted
to
connect
green
bay,
road
wesley
avenue,
wesley
avenue
and
jackson
together,
we've
sort
of
created
that,
with
an
open
pathway
and
again,
a
private
road
created
connecting
all
those
another
additional
benefit
we'll
have
is
because
we're
extending
jackson
street
we
will
create
seven
over
seven
spaces,
because
I've
only
counted
once
one
side
of
the
street
and
the
second
side
of
the
street
would
be
also
available
brand
new
parking
spaces
which
would
be
open
to
the
public
and
again,
you
know,
we've
just
tried
to
adhere
to
the
overlay
of
west
edmonton
and
what
what?
K
I
Where
would
the
lines
of
like
the
rose
jackson
avenue?
What
is
private
and
what?
What
would
be
the
city's
right
of
way
in
the
city's
property
through
there.
K
Chris,
my
understanding
is
that
we'll
we
would
hand
it
all
over
to
the
city
of
evanston
all
of
jackson,
avenue
like
we
would
not
own
any
of
us,
except
you
know
where
it
turns
on
to
pass
the
sidewalk
into
the
private
development.
But
essentially
we
would
be
my.
My
vision
would
be
to
turn
the
entire
street
over
to
the
city
of
evanston,
and
you
know
they
would
be
then
responsible
for
maintaining
it.
I
would
build
it,
they
would
maintain
it
and
we
would
maintain
the
private
road,
the
lynx
wesley
and
jackson,
avenue.
I
Okay,
so
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
would
be
built
to
all
the
city's
standards
for
how
the
street
would
be.
I
I,
as
far
as
your
your
private
drive,
goes,
I
think
I
say
16
feet
wide.
I
You
know
it
seems
like
it's
a
little
narrow
I
I
guess
I
would
have
some
concerns
about
what
your
thoughts
are.
You
know
if,
if
people
are
are
parking
on
the
side
of
there
like,
will
there
be
any
parking
or
or
guests
gonna
visitors,
gonna
park,
or
if
you
have
maintenance
or
a
garbage
truck
going
down
through
there?
Is
it
one
way?
I
guess
some
questions
about
the
traffic
flow
and
how
that's
all
gonna
work
with
seeing
how
narrow
it
is.
K
Initially,
this
was
two
ways
and
it
was
wider
and
given
some
of
the
concerns
that
michael
had
raised,
we
adjusted
the
plan
to
make
it
one
way
there.
The
aprons
that
are
created
by
the
larger
street
at
the
back
of
the
town
houses
as
well,
would
allow
for
some
parking
behind
those,
although
we
initially
had
other
parking
spaces
available
for
visitors
which
we
removed
as
well
and
again
because
of
sight
line,
concerns
and
the
our
environment
are
sorry.
K
Our
civil
engineer,
avi
from
bernie
bono's
office,
he's
created
this
plan
for
the
width
of
the
private
driveway
to
allow
for
a
fire
truck
to
go
through,
and
we
can
take
a
look
and
and
make
it.
You
know
what
is
required.
We're
not
we're
open
to
discussions,
you
know,
but
we
have
engaged
avi
to
create
a
you
know,
a
street
plan
and
a
you
know,
a
civil
engineering
plan
that
would
meet
the
city
codes
and
would
meet
the
requirements.
L
B
Before
we
move
on,
this
is
laura.
I'm
just
going
to
comment
on
supporting
what
chris
is
saying
is
that
even
our
alleys,
which
are
usually
two-way,
we
tend
to
make
at
least
20
feet
wide
and
I'm
really
concerned
just
in
the
amount
of
visitor
parking
there
is.
B
So
you
really
ought
to
consider
widening
that
backspace
up
again
a
little
so
that
you,
even
if
you
keep
it
one
way,
so
that
maybe
you
can
provide
some
temporary,
no
overnight
parking
type
of
thing
for
people
who
have
visitors
or
or
something
because
without
that
with
the
removal
of
public
parking.
I
just
think
that
you're
going
to
have
a
big
issue
with
that,
managing
that,
in
the
future.
K
B
I
think
that
this
might
be
something
that
is
worth
having
a
follow-on
conversation
with
your
civil
separately
from
this
to
maybe
just
talk
through
some
of
these
issues
about
parking,
sanitation,
fire
lanes,
etc
and
kind
of
hashing
it
out,
rather
than
having
to
go
back
and
forth
type.
The
conversation.
I
K
We
have
a
full
lighting
plan
for
the
size,
which
would
include
lighting
along
the
sidewalk
and
along
the
private
driveway.
So
we
do
have
a
full
lighting
plan.
We
have
a
mechanical
and
electrical
engineer
who
provided
a
full.
I
think
it's
called
a
photometric
plan.
Is
it
for
light
going
off-site?
So
we
have
that
created
it's
just.
We
haven't
submitted
it
just
just
quite
yet,
but
julie
noted
and
it's
it's
definitely
something
we
were
working
on
as
well
as
a
landscaping
plant
which
we
which
we're
working
on
too.
C
While
we're
on
the
topic
of
the
cyborgs,
I
would
say
where
wesley
meets
on
the
east
side
of
the
sidewalk
doesn't
quite
line
up
or
there's
an
extended
part
of
the
sidewalk.
And
I
would
just
say,
for
ada
compliance.
Make
sure
that
those
sidewalks
line
up
in
a
straight
path
and
that
the
sidewalk
takes
precedent
over
where
that
alley
empties
into
the
street.
C
K
J
So
any
pedestrians
there
would
have
to
walk
on
the
road
or
is
there
landscaping?
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
see
the
plans
fully
from
here
and
basically
what
people
would
push
onto
the
road?
Just
you
know,
kids,
anybody
walking
back
there
again.
I
know
there's
no
walkway
designated,
but
you
know,
will
they
just
be
pushed
on
into
the
road.
K
K
K
If
you,
if
you
the
width
of
it,
would
allow,
for
you
know,
the
width
of
the
setback
behind
each
of
the
townhouses
would
allow
for
a
pathway
if
we
needed
to
connect
those
all
together
and
keep
it
separate
from
the
road.
The
question
would
be
we
could
we
could
accommodate
one.
We
could
probably
accommodate
a
three
or
four
foot
wide
pathway
connecting
the
sidewalk
on
jackson,
all
the
way,
true
to
the
sidewalk
on
green
bay
roads.
If
you
see
where,
in
between
the
building
five
and
building
six,
we
probably
could
accommodate
some
form
of
walking.
L
We
can
you
know
I
I
say
we
we
talk
to
heavy
and
the
civil
engineers
about
it.
John
yeah,
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
conflict
of
having
you
know,
having
encouraging
pedestrians
to
walk
with
me.
I
mean
I'm
thinking
of
having
a
designated
sidewalk.
L
You
know
running
coincident
with
an
alley,
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
better
to
encourage
pedestrian
traffic
on
the
on
the
wesley
vehicular
court
or
if
it's
better,
to
emphasize
the
pedestrian
path
in
the
front.
I
would
think
it'd
be
safer
to
emphasize
it
on
the
front,
but
maybe
it's
a
civil
engineering,
maybe
you
know
abby
would
have
some
perspective
on
it.
Sure.
M
M
J
And
as
far
as
whitening,
when
you
widen
that,
if
you
plan
to
widen
it
to
24
feet,
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
keep
in
mind
the
snow
storage.
If
you
are
going
to
be
clearing
that,
if
you
say
you're
already
limited
in
space
of
where
you
would
put
that,
knowing
that
you
cannot
push
it
out
into
the
city
streets.
J
K
Just
to
be
clear:
we're
not
extending
jackson
all
the
way
to
simpson
we're
extending
jackson
to
the
edge
of
our
property.
We
do
not
own
the
property
highlighted
in
green
on
the
left-hand
side,
future
extension
northbound.
We
do
not
own
that
property
and
we
have
an
easement
over
part
of
the
property
to
the
left.
So
we
would
extend
it
there
and
we
would
also
we're
also
extending
the
sidewalk
along
the
east
side
of
of
jackson
as
as
for
lyzing,
and
things
like
that.
I'd
have
to
check
with
civil
engineer
and
lighting
for
jackson.
D
I
Just
the
the
the
design
of
how
your
court
comes
into
jackson,
you
know
if
a
resident
turns
down
jackson
thinking
it's
you
know
just
the
street,
I
I
could
see
them,
especially.
I
don't
know
if
the
one-way
flow
comes
from
wesley
or,
however,
that
gets
worked
out.
You
know
they're
going
to
want
to
be
able
to
turn
around,
or
what
do
you
do
when
when
public
traffic
starts
coming
down
there,
realizing
it's
a
dead
end
and
now
they're
stuck,
you
know,
heading
towards
your
alley.
C
With
the
jackson
extension,
including
the
sidewalk
extension,
I
I
encourage
that
as
a
public
benefit
that
the
west
side
sidewalk
be
included
as
part
of
the
extension
as
well,
especially
since,
where
the
new
alley
will
empty
into
jackson
will
create
a
sight
line
issue.
And
if
you
have
people
crossing
at
the
end
of
jackson.
On
the
west
side,
there's
going
to
be
conflicts
with
vehicles.
K
K
A
Because
one
thing-
I
don't,
I
am
not
an
engineer,
but
I
could
see
if
someday
jackson
is
connected
here.
People
traveling
from
west
on
simpson
would
cut
down
jackson
to
get
to
their
home
and
go
down
the
alley
the
wrong
way.
Instead
of
going,
you
know
kind
of
around
down
jackson
up
wesley,
I
think
it
could.
It
could
create
a
a
traffic
pattern
that
somebody
who
wants
to
get
the
quickest
way
to
get
home
would
would
not
follow.
K
A
A
We,
I
think
we
need
to
think
what
this
would
look
like
in
the
long
term,
not
just
the
short
term
of
buildings
being
built,
because
I
I
mean
most
of
us
who,
when
we
would
travel
to
the
civic
center
or
the
the
service
center
area,
if
we're
coming
from
the
west
or
northwest
we're
going
to
travel
simpson
across
green
bay,
and
if
we
had
to
get
to
this
area,
I
don't
think
we'd
necessarily
travel
to
green
bay
and
around
the
shortest
path
is
as
the
crow
flies
and
once
jackson's
a
street.
A
L
You
should
you
should
maybe
make
note
that
you
know
originally,
the
the
the
wesley
court
was
24
feet
wide
and,
and
it
was
two-way,
it
was
conceived
of
as
a
two-way
vehicular
artery.
You
know
a
court
roadway
and
it
was
narrowed
to
increase
the
garage
aprons
and
also
accommodate
the
fire
truck,
and
so
you
know
maybe
there's
some
benefit
to
re-looking
at
it,
going
back
to
24
feet
and
and
perhaps
being
able
to
accommodate
two-way
traffic.
If
jackson
boulevard
did
actually
extend
all
the
way
up
to
simpson
at
some
point
in
time,.
D
It
it's
a
it's
a
tight
area
with
the
with
this,
with
that
new
wesley
court
at
24
feet
wide
it
bumps
up
against
those
garages.
So
there's
there's
absolutely
no
there's
no
separation
between
the
garage
and
the
street,
which
again
is
is
typical
in
in
alleys.
But
but
if
you
have
a
24
foot
wide
street,
we're
talking
a
little
bit
something
a
little
bit
different
than
one
and
how
an
alley
function.
So
I
think
a
narrower,
narrower
street
actually
is
a
better
idea.
D
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
have
a
lot
of
traffic
and
I
think,
like
cade,
said,
I
think
it
functions
more
of
an
alley
in
this
configuration,
but
I
do
think
in
terms
of
the
direction
of
flow,
the
traffic
flow.
D
You
still
need
to
consider
how
those
garages
align
and
whether
or
not
it's
best
to
go
from
east
to
west
or
west
to
east,
based
on
how
vehicles
are
going
to
be
able
to
back
out
and
then
pull
back
into
their
to
their
garages,
particularly
building
four
and
five
so
yeah.
I
I
think,
a
narrower
street
or
alley
whatever
we
want
to
call
it.
I
think
functions
better
for
its
intended.
A
I
I
just
mentioned
that
sorry,
ed
we'd
expect
you
to
manage.
I'm
assuming
you
would
all
the
storm
water
on
the
site,
but
that
would
include
this.
The
wesley
court
as
well.
Anything
on
that
drive
you'd
still
manage
that.
I
I
F
Hi
this
is
mike
rivera.
I
have
a
couple
questions
with
regards
to
the
parking
the
total
parking
count
of
54
spaces.
Is
that
inclusive
inclusive
of
the
seven
on
jackson,
or
is
that
going
to
be
all
on
your
property,
the
54
spaces.
L
That
includes
the
seven
on
jackson,
so
there's
47,
total
on-site
parking
spaces.
F
Okay
and
then
are
you:
gonna
have
any
disabled
parking
at
all
on
the
site
and
then
lastly,
I
believe
we
have
a
resident
some
residential
parking
district
in
that
neighborhood.
I
believe
it's
district,
14
and,
and
the
residents
of
this
complex
would
not
be
eligible
to
to
purchase
parking
pass.
The
parking
permits
for
that
residential
parking
district.
L
In
building
seven,
which
is
a
multi-unit
building,
there's
which
is
kind
of
currently
under
design
development,
there's
one
accessible
parking
space,
that's
being
provided.
G
So
one
of
my
questions
regarding
the
green
infrastructure
is,
is
how
does
this
design
actually
promote,
maintaining
the
green
character?
I
mean
you
got
a
couple
of
small
areas
for
like
a
little
private
park,
but
I
didn't
see
any
landscaping
on
this
as
far
as
any
type
of
tree
density
or
or
even
landscaping
that
you
know
it's
a
tight
area
to
do
anything.
That's
going
to
be
really
positive,
green
infrastructure,
wise
and.
K
And
michael,
I
tend
to
agree
with
you
as
well,
but
we
we
have
this
plan
out
at
the
moment
to
a
landscape
architecture
who's
who,
who
is
designing
a
landscape
plan
for
this,
for
this
property
right
now.
This
is
a
brownfield
site.
It's
contaminated
and
there's
a
railroad
beam.
There
there's
trees
growing
on
top
of
the
railroad
beam
40
feet
in
the
air.
K
It's
it's!
It's
pretty!
It's
worth
taking,
walking
and
taking
a
look.
This
site
also
is
three
to
four
feet
tall
in
elevation
above
grade,
and
so
what's
there
right
now,
we
definitely
can
improve
on
it
considerably,
but
there's
a
significant
cost
in
cleaning
up
this
sizing,
there's
a
significant
cost
in
removing
that
railroad
embankment,
and
we
would
you
know
we
want
to
create
a
nice
green
architecture
in
the
area
and
we
have
hired
a
gary
from
g-studio
to
design
a
landscape
plan
for
this.
K
G
If
I
could
just
ask
you
to,
you
know,
there's
a
huge
push
in
the
green
green
movement
here
for
for
natives,
and
you
know
just
the
site
appropriate
for
yes,
no.
K
Water,
low
water
native
plants-
yes,
we're
well
aware
of:
what's
what's
what
the
city
is
looking
for
and
we've
looked
into
their
things,
and
these
are
things
you
know
again
in
the
green
ordnance.
I
actually
have
the
the
sheet
here,
the
four
or
five
pages,
and
we're
looking
to
to
check
as
many
boxes
of
those
that
we
possibly
can
and
the
native
plants
and
the
low
water
low
maintenance
requirements
are.
Definitely
we
we're
looking
at
those
michael
we're
looking
at
those.
G
And
a
preference
for
something
other
than
than
turf
grass.
Yes,
yes,
yes,.
K
A
All
right,
mike
rivera,
do
you
have
any
other
parking
comments
or
concerns.
F
No,
that
that
was
it
just
just
that
they
understand
that,
like
I
said
that
the
residents
of
that
building
would
be
ineligible
to
purchase
parking
permits
for
residential
district
number
14
or
any
other
district
established
nearby
and.
F
Because
those
were
already
pre,
pre-established
residential
parking
districts,
they
were
petitioned
by
the
residents
of
those
particular
blocks.
F
That's
something
we
can
discuss
offline
and
I'll
have
to
take
a
look
at
the
block
which,
with
jackson,
to
see
if
those
become
permitted
or
if
they
would
fall
under
the
form
of
under
established
permit
area
or
if
they
would
just
be
free
spaces,
okay,
yeah
sure
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
planners
any
comments
or
questions.
M
I
think
it's
a
great
concept,
john,
it's
essentially
a
cluster
development,
albeit
one
with
a
little
more
parking
than
is
traditional.
I
think-
and
I
think
it
generally
does-
follow
the
west
evanston
plan
it's.
These
are
basically
type
2
townhomes,
which
it
calls
for
in
this
area.
M
I
would
just
say
when
you
really
take
a
deep
dive
on
the
materials.
Maybe
the
the
townhomes
on
green
bay
have
a
little
bit,
maybe
they're,
there's
a
little
more
sensitivity
to
what
kind
of
materials
you
select
on
that
public
frontage.
First,
first,
the
units
that
are
are
kind
of
hidden
on
the
interior.
F
M
Bad
example,
I
mean
that
public
storage
building
is
both
really
interesting
and
significant,
and
also
just
a
really
brutalized
building
at
the
same
time,
but
that
front-facing
facade
has
a
lot
of
brick.
It
is
pretty
intricate
pretty
interesting.
I
would
just
whatever
you
do
just
have
it
be
contextual,
then,
and
at
the
same
time,
everything
to
the
south
is
it's
basically
just
an
amalgam
of
different
materials.
M
So,
if
anything,
I
would
say
look
at
including
some
kind
of
masonry,
but
I
think
in
general
what
you're,
showing
as
a
concept
is,
is
authentic
in
architectural
expression
and
that's
basically,
what
we're
looking
for.
It's
it's
contemporary
and
it's
authentic,
which
I
would
agree
with.
I
think
it's
a
good
concept.
Thank
you.
Jack.
L
L
A
lot
of
the
units,
I
think
maybe
75
percent
of
them-
are
benefiting
from
natural
ventilation
on
more
than
just
the
primary
front,
facade
and
the
rear
facade,
so
they're
getting
light
from
the
side
and
from
perspectives,
and
that
allows
these
to
to
feel
more
like
single-family
homes,
where
you
could
get
the
benefit
of
light
to
invent
from
all
four
sides,
so
I
think
also
creating
these
clusters.
L
These
smaller
buildings
gives
the
advantage
of
of
creating
a
little
bit
more
specialized
identity
for
each
one
of
the
units,
and
I
think
we're
looking
to
provide
that
individual
identity
with
the
mixed
materials
that
kind
of
show
up
in
some
of
the
3d
drawings.
M
L
It's
interesting
yeah,
building,
building,
building
five
and
six
there's
kind
of
a
zigzag
between
between
that
setback
between
where
the
property
line
is
on
green
bay.
L
If
you
can
kind
of
see
like
there's,
not
a
continuous
property
line,
so
there's
not
a
continuous
setback
and-
and
I
think
we're
looking
to
emphasize
the
pedestrian
right-of-way
and
create
a
special
kind
of
connection
between
green
bay
and
the
development
between
the
buildings
and
which
is
going
to
be
highlighted
with
landscape
and-
and
you
know,
maybe
some
some
some
other
features
lighting
I,
but
I
think,
if
you
zoom
in
the
setback,
is
roughly
15
feet
on
building
building
five
and
on
building
six,
it's
it's.
M
I
think
that's
good.
I
think
I
was
going
to
say
10.
I
don't
remember
what
the
plan
calls
for
there.
I
think
it's
10
feet.
I
don't
I
don't
recall
specifically,
but.
M
L
M
M
L
K
So
there's
an
anomaly
here
with
doyle's
addition
to
evanston,
where
the
north
part
of
the
lot
is
it.
The
lot
line
is
closer
to
the
street
than
the
south
side
of
the
lot
line,
and
it's
basically
where
doyle's
addition
to
evanston
was
added
the
the
light
blue
line
on
the
outside.
There
is
actually
where
the
sidewalk
is
and
again
that's
probably
five
feet
out
further
than
the
property
line
and
the
existing
property
owners
have
fenced
that
in
so
they
put
the
fence
along
the
sidewalk,
but
technically
they
don't
own
that
property.
K
That
property
is
the
city
of
evanston's,
but
for
all
intents
and
purposes
it's
kind
of
this
no
man's
land,
because
the
railroad
abutment
is
butting
out
further.
You
can
see
it
in
the
light
blue
color
there
it's
running
out
further,
which
is
on
city
of
evanston
property,
but
the
sidewalk
is
two
feet
away
from
that.
You
know
it's
it's
the
other
side
of
that
railroad
abutment.
So
it's
toured.
It's
probably
three
feet
further
out
into
the
the
sidewalk
is
three
feet
further
out
from
the
lot
line
of
the
property
today
where
it
exists
today.
K
Does
that
does
you
understand
what
I'm
saying
kate
so
and
again
you
see
the
way
I
work.
Building
five
and
building
six.
They
don't
line
up,
we'd
love
them
to
line
up,
but
unfortunately,
the
way
the
rules
are.
We
have
to
set
them
back
ten
feet
from
a
lot
line
which
is
going
to
end
up
being
20
feet
from
the
sidewall.
M
K
K
There's
only
one
one
portion
of
the
property
150
by
100
feet
on
jackson,
that
is
zoned
r5
and
our
plan
works
in
r4
and
it
works
in
r5.
So
it's
it.
The
uniform
zoning
of
the
whole
entire
development
is
what
the
zoning
department's
looking
for.
So
it
works
under
four.
So,
let's
just
down
zone
it
to
four.
You
know.
M
Okay
and
then
really
just
my
last
point,
I
would
kind
of
echo
what
michael
callahan
said
where
I
think
these
developments
are
they're
most
successful
with
that
interior
space
that
that
ancillary
space
or
I
guess
you
could
call
it
open
space,
it's
it's
more.
M
A
All
right,
jessica,
hank
any
questions
or
comments.
E
Yes,
china,
fire
department,
does
have
concerns
with
building
seven.
We
that's
one
building.
We
do
not
see
emergency
access
to.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
the
residents
are
going
to
be
able
to
park
on
the
east
side.
There's
no
and
do
the
current
layout
doesn't
show
access
or
are
they
coming
off
of
jackson,
or
I'm
not
sure
how
they're
getting
to
that
parking
on
the
east
side
of
the
building.
L
E
L
They
would
they
would
pull
in
john,
so.
E
Okay,
right
now,
fire
department
does
not
have
access
to
that
building,
so
that
will
have
to
be
addressed
and
again
we
need
a
minimum
of
20
foot.
Foot
20
foot
wide
fire
lane.
K
E
And
how
far
is
that?
Building
to
jackson
street.
L
E
This
is
for
building
seven
yeah.
Okay,
how
about
to
the
to
the
east
side
of
the
building
where
all
the
garages
are.
L
L
E
E
We
got
to
get
that
truck
close
to
that
building,
so
we
can
have
this
discussion
later.
Maybe
you
know
set
up
a
meeting
with
fire.
A
All
right,
it
sounds
sounds
like
there's
lots
of
offline
later
on
meetings
with
various
staff,
any
any
other
staff
comments
or
questions.
A
So
I
guess
before
I
we
adjourn
john
and
team.
Do
you
have
any
questions
for
city
staff
before
we
adjourn.