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A
I
I'm
sorry
for
the
delay.
We
were
having
some
technical
difficulties
there,
but
they
seem
to
have
been
resolved.
Welcome
to
the
august
31st
meeting
of
the
economic
development
committee,
we
have
a
quorum.
I
am
calling
the
meeting
to
order
so
the
first
item
we
will
have
public
comment,
but
I
do
want
to
approve
our
minutes.
First
from
our
last
meeting,
which
was
july
28
2021..
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes?
Yes,
miss
lindwall.
D
E
C
It
alderman
or
council
member
braithwaite.
G
C
A
Okay,
the
minutes
are
approved.
So
our
first
item
of
business
is
our
public
comment.
We
have
three
people
signed
up
and
if,
when
I
call
your
name,
if
you
could
come
up
to
the
podium,
that
would
be
wonderful.
First
is
susan
kelly.
H
Right
welcome
so
my
name
is
susan
kelly,
my
husband
peter,
and
I
are
evanston
residents-
and
I
am
here
tonight
to
advocate
in
support
of
north
light
theater's
request
for
two
million
dollars
so
that
they
are
able
to
accelerate
their
building
of
a
theater
in
downtown
evanston.
Can
you
hear
me
just
fine?
Thank
you
perfect.
H
H
We
believe
northlight
can
be
a
catalyst
for
to
attract
more
people
to
downtown
evanston
when
more
people
come
more
people
spend
money.
In
fact,
the
chicago
tribune
cites
a
figure
that
in
chicago
for
every
dollar
spent
on
a
live
theater
ticket
it
generates
12
additional
dollars
in
economic
revenue
and
north
light
has
a
proven
model.
They've
been
in
business
for
45
years.
They
have
six
thousand
subscribers,
they
have
fifty
thousand
audience
members
every
year
and
they
have
the
data
to
back
up
their
economic
estimates
and
they've
provided
economic
estimates.
H
A
If
anyone
who's
watching
us
on
zoom
would
mute,
put
their
audio
on
mute.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Go
right
ahead.
H
H
North
light
also
has
skin
in
the
game.
Their
request
represents
10
approximately
10
percent
of
the
estimated
20
million
dollars
it
will
take
for
them
to
build
this
project
and
they're
requesting
this
money
come
from
arpa
funds.
As
I
read
the
arpa
guidelines
that
were
put
out,
this
request
meets
the
arpa
criteria
for
economic
recovery
and
importantly,
does
not
add
any
tax
burden
to
evanston
residents.
H
H
H
H
E
I
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak
my
I'm
neil
gamble,
I'm
the
chairman
of
the
mayor's
employer
advisory
council.
I'm
also
in
your
word-
and
you
know
this
is
something
that
we've
been
working
on
for
the
last
three
years
and
I'll
say
this.
It
does
say
mayor's
employer
advisory
council.
It's
got
its
own
life
now,
because
we've
been
at
this
for
three
years.
I
The
council
itself
has
134
members
and
there
are
50
employers,
more
people
than
50
employers,
but
there
are
50
employers
that
we've
been
working
with
for
all
three
years,
and
these
employers
have
been
really
working
hard
to
figure
out
how
to
employ
the
young
people
graduating
from
eths
that
may
not
be
going
to
college
or,
if
they're
going
to
go
to
college
might
be
later
or
I
might
have
a
company
pay
for
them.
Let's
talk
about
arpafunzo
for
workforce
development.
I
One
of
the
items
I
think
that
is
really
missing
in
the
city
is
a
workforce
development
element
in
the
economic
development
field.
You
know,
let's
face
it,
you
know
we're
never
going
to
be
the
manufacturing
hub
of
chicago,
but
what
are
we
going
to
be
in
the
next
five
years?
You've
got
incubators
starting
up.
You
certainly
have
new
smaller
businesses,
starting
up
they're,
all
looking
for
help.
I
I
We
know
that
the
workforce
for
training
and
the
job
content
anymore
is
changing
like
rapidly
and
employers
need
that
help.
If
you
look
around
the
city,
you
know
we
got
the
big
ones.
You
know
we
know
about
the
hospitals
and
we
know
about
all
the
other
ones,
but
there's
hundreds
of
small
businesses
that
really
could
be
better
bigger,
but
I
think
the
city
needs
to
have
something
on
its
books
in
terms
of
workforce
development.
I
A
person
actually
in
the
government
that
really
focuses
on
working
with
employers
figure
out
what
they
want
to
what
they
need
and
can
they
help.
So
I
would
propose
at
some
point
actually
part
using
some
of
these
arpa
funds
to
fund
a
position.
That's
going
to
be
a
workforce
development
expert
and
someone
that
can
work
with
the
employers
work
with
the
organizations
that
train
employees
and
help
employers
stay
here
and
what
happens
when
an
employer
wants
to
come
here?
What
does
he
look
for
in
the
first
place?
I
A
C
C
Okay,
I
see
miss
gutierrez
from
this
rebuilding
warehouse
and
then
miss
payton.
C
That's
aina
gutierrez
from
the
episode
rebuilding
warehouse.
G
J
I'm
sorry
I
should
be-
I
should
be
smarter
than
this
by
now.
Thank
you
so
much
to
the
committee
for
allowing
my
comment.
I
just
had
three
things
to
offer.
As
the
executive
director
of
the
evanston
rebuilding
warehouse,
one
is,
I
think
this
is
incredibly
exciting
to
see
workforce
development
as
a
priority
for
the
economic
development
committee
and
use
of
the
arpa
funds.
J
I
think
that
the
labor
market
is
rapidly
changing,
as
neil
gambo
has
said,
and
our
task
as
a
city
and
for
some
of
your
partners
is
to
get
ahead
of
it,
and
so
I
expect,
in
the
building
trades
in
particular,
a
huge
amount
of
demand
in
the
union
and
non-union
trades
on
infrastructure
projects
replacing
lead
pipes,
and
we
need
to
start
that
training
now
we
need
to
start
it
today.
So
when
those
jobs
are
open
and
available,
we
can
place
residents
in
them.
J
The
second
thing
I
might
offer,
which
is
tied
to
that
is
just
the
urgency.
Behind
this.
It
will
take
time
to
recruit
and
train
is
a
very
tight
labor
market
right
now,
so
we're
asking
residents
to
really
give
up
a
decent,
paying
job
now
for
an
investment
in
their
future
and
so
again
supporting
organizations
that
are
doing
the
training
on
the
ground
will
be
really
important.
J
So
I
just
would
encourage
a
expedited
process
to
move
these
objectives
from
the
arpa
fund
and
really
to
strengthen
our
city,
and
the
third
thing
I
might
offer-
and
I
promise
not
to
have
coordinated
with
neil
in
advance.
We
are,
we
are
proud.
Members
of
the
mayor's
employer's
advisory
council
is
just
to
hone
in
on
the
expertise
that
the
city
already
has
and
support
those
of
us
on
the
ground
that
are
already
doing
the
work,
and
so
just
to
echo
some
of
neil's
comments.
J
Employer
connections,
developer
connections,
things
that
the
city
are
already
doing
to
connect
employers
to
participants,
and
then
the
city
supporting
those
services
of
those
who
are
training
on
the
ground.
I
think,
will
be
critically
important
so
anyway,
kudos
on
putting
workforce
development
in
arpa,
we're
excited
for
that
inclusion
and
are
excited
to
work
with
the
city.
As
as
you
all
figured
this
out,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
Evening,
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
small
minority
landlords
again,
as
you
know,
the
moratorium
here
in
evanston
is
still
in
existence
in
illinois
until
I
believe
the
19th
and
this
moratorium
has
hurt
landlords,
small
landlords,
like
myself,
extremely
hard
during
the
pandemic,
we
still
have
to
continue
to
pay
our
bills
regardless
if
we
do
not
get
paid
from
rent
and
regardless.
K
If
we
have
to
wait
for
monies
from
the
government,
this
will
not
only
hurt
us
just
now.
This
will
hurt
us
in
the
future,
because
what
the
plan
is
is
to
eliminate
the
landlord
from
seeing
evictions
or
any
type
of
credit
that
will
allow
us
to
know
who
might
pay
in
the
future
and
will
also
hurt
your
affordable
housing,
because
landlords
like
myself,
will
be
bought
out
by
big
landlords
which
will
turn
into
luxury
housing.
K
Also.
I
hope
that
you
will
not
give
arpa
money
to
the
same
people
that
have
received
grants.
Many
times
before
I
heard
someone
support
the
north
light
theater
and
you
need
to
consider
they're
asking
for
two
million
dollars
and
they've
already
received
four
million
dollars
and
disaster
money
which
they
spoke
at
about
at
one
of
the
meetings,
and
are
you
supporting
people
that
are
currently
in
evanston
or
bringing
people
into
evanston?
K
A
A
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
hear
paul's
presentation
and
discuss
the
thoughts
of
our
city
staff
on
use
of
arpa
and
then
I
think,
open
this
to
the
floor
of
the
committee
to
hear
thoughts
from
the
committee
members
as
well
and
and
then
I
think
that
some
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
will
loop
into
the
items
for
discussion
which
we
have
tonight
as
well.
So
let's
move
forward
go
ahead,
mr
seltzer.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
committee
chair,
I
appreciate
being
before
you
in
person
tonight
for
the
first
time
in
a
very
long
time,
and
if
you
can't
hear
me
please
whether
it's
on
zoom
or
here
in
the
chambers
because
of
my
mask,
please
let
me
know
I've
always
been
a
soft
talker,
but
I
think
I
think
the
amplification
helps
so
what
I
wanted
to
do
tonight
and
I've
got
the
previous
title
slide
from
july
28th.
But
it's
the
same
title,
which
I
just
want
to
provide
an
update
on
where
we
left
off.
C
From
last
time.
We
had
a
really
good
discussion,
really
went
through
a
list.
C
If
you
remember
a
list
of
a
lot
of
ideas
that
we
learned
from
either
from
our
experience
or
we
learn
from
the
community
or
learn
from
each
other,
and
we
went
through
that
list
and
some
of
us,
including
mayor
bis
and
and
some
of
you-
have
had
meetings
with
your
constituents
and
you're
hearing
things
and
you're
providing
feedback
about
direction
and
how
we
should
be
considering
arpa
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
tonight
is
kind
of
propose
kind
of
my
view
of
of
the
information,
I've
distilled
and
what
I'm
hearing
and
seeing
and
want
to
see.
C
If
you
agree
with
that-
and
I
have
a
few
suggestions
that
I
would
like
to
ask
for
you
to
recommend
to
move
on
to
the
council
and
then,
when
I'm
done
with
that,
I'm
hoping
that
you
critique
it,
you
criticize
it.
You
hold
me
accountable
and
you
come
up
with.
Maybe
there's
other
ideas
you
have
that
you
want
to
bring
to
the
table
that
we
also
should
be
working
on.
So
I
I
never
take
this
podium
thinking.
I
have
all
the
ideas,
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
help
frame
a
conversation.
C
So
here
are
the
emerging
themes
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
look
at
the
screen,
because
I
don't
have
this
memorized,
but
what
we're
hearing
from
from
the
groups
that
we're
talking
to
downtown
is
a
central
gathering
place.
It's
an
economic
engine
for
this
community
and
it's
it.
It
needs
to
be
fixed,
it
needs
to
be
reinvented.
C
I
want
to
be
sensitive,
how
we
say
it
because
we
have
a
really
nice
downtown,
but
there
are
some
things
we
can
do
to
fix
it,
and
I
would
say
that
about
all
of
our
merchant
districts
not
just
downtown.
Secondly,
quality
of
place
is
important.
We
heard
a
lot
about
place
making
in
our
last
meeting,
but
we're
also
hearing
this
from
the
ceos
we're
hearing
it
from
residents.
C
C
Occasionally,
I
forget
to
talk
about
art
somebody
at
the
first
ward
meeting
held
by
council
member
kelly
under
the
moonlight
recently
said.
Don't
forget
about
art,
and
I
said
you
know
what
I
haven't,
but
I
don't
talk
about
it
enough,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
bring
it
into
our
conversation,
clean,
green
and
safe,
and
I
again
we
talked
about
this
in
our
meeting
last
time,
but
I'm
hearing
this
over
and
over
and
I
think
we
could
do
better.
C
Mr
gambo
and
ms
gutierrez
talked
about
it.
Careers
are
available,
jobs
are
available,
but
we're
finding
that
there
are
a
lot
of
positions
that
are
unfilled
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
restaurant
worker
jobs.
We
learned
recently
that
the
the
north
shore,
medical
sorry
north
shore,
university
health
system
has
something
in
the
range
of
five
to
eight
hundred
jobs
available
throughout
the
region.
Right
now,
and
these
are
high,
paying
high
quality
health
care
jobs
really
important
that
we
continue
to
try
to
coordinate.
C
For
example,
councilmember
newsman
asked
me
before
this
meeting.
Did
I
connect
with
dave
stoneback
to
talk
about
the
later
thing
that
council
member
burns
is
bringing
forward
for
a
referral
I
haven't.
Why
is
that?
Because
we're
in
our
silos,
so
we
gotta
continue
to
break
those
down,
but
we
also
have
other
organizations
that
we
need
to
coordinate
with,
and
we
just
need
to
continue
to
do
that
and
finally,
covid
mast
variant,
distance.
You
know
all
the
things
you're,
muted,
we're
exhausted
and
it's
making
us
crabby
and
it's
making
us
not
want
to
work
together.
C
So
we
just
have
to
keep
reminding
ourselves
that
we're
hopefully
going
to
get
through
this
and
we'll
and
we'll
get
back
to
business,
so
some
work
that
we've
done
since
last
meeting
a
few
weeks
ago,
we
met
with
the
ceo
group
that
it's
formed
a
few
months
ago
and
again
this
is
the
these
are
the
ceos
of
the
larger
organizations
in
town
they
stressed
in
their
meeting,
and
this
is
a
theme-
that's
apparent.
It's
happening
in
each
of
the
three
meetings
we've
had.
C
We
need
cleanliness.
Downtown
needs
to
be
safe.
Even
if
it's
just
a
perception
of
safety,
we
need
to
work
on
it.
We
need
to
have
better
gateways
into
town
when
you're
getting
off
the
train
and
not
have
to
walk
through
the
dark,
smelly
tunnel
under
the
davis
street
station,
for
example
the
conversations
about
workforce
development.
C
We
have
to
work
better
and
and
coordinate
on
that.
So
we're
going
to
start
that
conversation
a
little
bit
more
tonight
we're
going
to
continue
it
a
little
more
tonight
and
then
hopefully
come
up
with
a
strategy
retail
strategy.
This
is
something
I've
talked
a
lot
about
with
first
ward
council
member
kelly.
She
has
a
lot
of
retail
and
reward.
C
We
really
need
to
step
it
up
and
figure
out
what
is
the
next
wave?
You
know
we
learned
today
or
sorry
last
week
that
urban
outfitters
is
closed.
We
knew
that
was
that
was
happening.
There
is
a
plan
to
replace
it,
but
it's
again
it's
a
continuation
covet
or
not.
These
big
national
retailers
are
slowly
leaving
the
smaller
kind
of
regional
markets
and
go
into
the
to
the
big
power,
those
power
centers
or
those
regional
malls.
C
And
then
we
had
a
meeting
in
downtown
evanston
under
the
scaffolding
during
a
rainstorm
with
ward,
4
and
ward
1
council
members
with
a
lot
of
good
ideas
sharing
from
constituents
about
how
do
we
do
events
and
close
streets
and
things
like
that
and
then.
Finally,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
continue
to
do
the
kind
of
permanent
or
semi-permanent
outdoor
dining
options?
We
still
have
a
lot
of
kova
discomfort.
People
don't
want
to
be
inside
and
it's
kind
of
getting
worse
right
now.
C
C
But
what
I
want
to
recommend
is
that
we
that
this
committee,
this
evening,
give
you
know,
give
the
go-ahead
for
staff
to
take
to
city
council
approval
of
a
series
of
rfps
for
consulting
contracts
for
a
city-wide
retail
market
study,
with
a
focus
on
some
of
the
the
neighborhood
business
districts
as
well.
C
C
So
this
is
my
feeble
attempt
to
create
a
graphic
that
shows
somebody
holding
a
mirror
up
to
us,
and
that
is
what
the
that's,
what
I
think
the
value
of
the
consultants.
E
C
They
will
show
us
what
we
may
not
see
in
our
in
our
own
cells,
because
we're
so
used
to
seeing
our
faces
on
zoom
and
the
like.
So
and
one
of
my
favorite
community
members,
who,
I
hope
is
still
on,
I
hope,
she's
still
on
the
the
zoom.
Miss
payton,
told
me
at
the
first
ward
meeting
that
we
don't
need
a
consultant.
C
C
C
So
there
there
is
an
argument
to
be
made
that
it's
okay
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
the
and
and
the
law
itself
says
that
you
can
use.
You
can
pay
consultants
with
the
money
to
help
you
expedite
delivery
of
the
funds,
there's
just
not
enough
staff
to
to
do
the
deep
dive
research
that
needs
to
be
done.
Can't
do
the
community
engagement,
the
cost
estimation
and
the
sequencing
it's
just
too
difficult.
C
Big
projects
take
time
and
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
time
to
get
these
projects
planned.
We're
also
going
to
find
other
funding
sources,
arpa's
not
going
to
solve
all
the
problems.
So
if
we
have
to
find
other
grants,
it
might
take
a
year
or
two.
So,
let's,
let's
get
started
and
get
this
all
planned
out
and
then
hopefully
by
2026
the
law
says
we
you
know.
If
we
have
it
all
expended
by,
then
we
don't
have
to
return
any
of
it,
so
really
briefly,
retail
market
study.
C
This
is
not
intended
to
be
comprehensive.
I'm
giving
you
an
example
right.
C
Council,
member
kelly
has
a
really
sharp
retail
expert
constituent
who
gave
us
some
feedback
said
we
have
one
of
the
best
mixes
of
retail
in
the
entire
country
for
community
our
size
problem
is
it's
spread
out
throughout
the
entire
community
at
central
street
howard
street
main
street,
etc.
So,
if
all
those
retailers,
if
you
think
about,
if
you
had
a
mexican
shop
and
just
name
a
shop,
if
they
were
all
on
sherman,
we
would
have
like
the
best
strolling
retail
environment
in
the
country,
but
that's
not
how
it
is.
C
So
how
do
we
capitalize
on
this
idea
that
we
know
that
there's
a
real
strong
interest
in
having
these
these
independent
retailers
and
how
do
we
do
it
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
grow
it?
Don't
just
rely
on
the
market.
How
do
we
incentivize
things
that
happen?
So
I
think
these
are
like
seven
things
that
I
think
we
should
be
as
a
basis
for
any
market
study
and
really
trying
to
understand
the
our
market
area
characteristics,
our
demographics.
You
know
there
are
reasons
why
some
retailers
aren't
here.
C
It's
because
there's
just
isn't
enough:
there
aren't
enough
rooftops.
There
aren't
enough
people
in
a
small
enough
area
to
to
to
attract
them,
so
that's
I
could
do
a
market
study
that
would
that
would
be
all
I
would
do
for
the
city
of
evanston
for
three
months.
That's
probably
not
a
good
use
of
my
time,
so
we
could
get
a
consultant
who
has
a
has
a
bunch
of
staff
that
could
do
it
workforce
development
strategy.
C
You
know
I
put
a
bunch
of
question
marks
because
I
don't
know
how
to
do
this.
I've
never
done
it.
I'm
learning
and
I'm
connecting
with.
I
think
the
right
people
and
I
think,
we're
on
the
right
path,
and
I
think
one
of
the
first
steps
I'm
going
to
take
and
I'm
going
to
do
that
in
the
next
few
weeks-
is
sit
down
with
all
of
our
partners
and
ask
them
what
they
need.
What
do
you
do?
C
I
don't
know
yet
it's
early
in
the
phase,
but
I
really
think
that,
in
order
for
us
to
have
an
effective,
proactive
workforce
development
strategy
that
that
allows
us
to
connect
with
north
shore
university
health
system
and
say,
hey,
we've
got
10
people
that
we
think
are
ready
to
be
plugged
into
those
health
care
jobs.
We
can't
do
that
now.
We
do
a
little
bit
of
that,
especially
on
the
on
the
youth
side
of
things,
and
I
also
think
that
our
community
is
small
enough.
C
The
problem
of
the
of
unemployment
in
evanston
is
typically
around
the
range
of
15
to
2
000
people.
We
can
solve
that.
We
can
solve
that
again.
This
idea
of
direct
business
funding.
This
is
an
application
process.
We
allow
the
private
market
to
work
a
little
bit
and
say
hey.
We
need
some
funding
because
of
xyz
and
then
we'll
consider
that
and
and
run
it
through
our
our
scoring
model.
C
I've
also
discovered
that
there
were
a
number
of
businesses
that
started
up
during
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic
and
did
not
qualify
for
any
of
the
programs,
because
they
had
to
show
last
year's
revenues
and
they
didn't
have
any
because
they're
new,
so
they
started
up
they
opened
and
then
they
were
just
left
kind
of
high
and
dry
without
any
customers,
because
people
are
not
patronizing
their
business.
So
I
think
there's
a
way
to
fill
the
gap
there.
That's
a
market
failure
that
I
think
we
could
help
with.
C
C
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
figure
this
out,
but
I
will
say:
they've
made
a
pretty
strong
case,
even
if,
even
if
you
really
think
they're,
exaggerating
their
economic
impact
and
you
divided
it
in
half,
you
know
that
you
know
it's
still.
A
pretty
significant
impact
gut
check
tells
us
it's
going
to
be
really
nice
to
have
an
alternative
activity
in
downtown
evanston.
That
already
has
a
very
strong
following,
so
I
want
to
keep
this
as
one
of
those
ideas
that
we
should
really
be
considering.
C
And
then
let
me
see
here,
business
district
infrastructure,
I'm
going
to
invite
annie
to
present
in
just
one
second,
unless
there
are
questions
from
the
from
the
committee
before
I
introduce
annie.
But
here
is
you
know
I,
my
thoughts
are
evanston
really
reinvented
itself
in
the
late
1990s
early
2000s
and
became
kind
of
a
cutting
edge,
downtown,
suburban
downtown,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
people
followed
our
lead
and
copied
us
and
did
the
things
that
replicated
it.
So
it's
not
that
unique
to
have
a
really
cool
downtown
area.
C
I
mean
we
talked
about
this
in
our
last
meeting.
I
think
a
member
deacon
talked
about
naperville
and
a
couple
of
other
places
she
recently
visited
and
it's
it's
true
like
people
have
kind
of
caught
up,
but
we
do
have
that
advantage
of
having
like
the
lakefront
and
the
30
000
people
within
a
mile
of
of
church
in
sherman.
So
we
we
do
have
a
special
place
that
I
I
think
is
uncomparable
in
the
region.
So
we've
got
to
capitalize
on
that.
C
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
whatever
the
opposite
of
complacency.
Is
we
have
to
get
to
that
point?
So
you
know
some
of
the
examples
of
the
infrastructure
strategy
that
I'm
talking
about
would
be.
You
know,
are
we
are
we
going
to
set
ourselves
up
to
be
able
to
do
street
closers
on
the
weekend
and
have
power?
C
You
know
lined
up
on
the
street,
so
people
can
plug
in
whatever
the
things
are
that
they're
going
to
you
know
whatever
whatever's
happening
in
those
event,
spaces
that
they
can
do
that?
Can
you
plug
in
a
guitar
amp?
Can
you
plug
in
for
lighting
whatever
it
is?
Can
we
can
we
implement
zero
way
streets?
C
You
know,
council,
member
nusmo's
coin
term
from
the
last
meeting,
where
we
close
streets
down
and
and
have
just
be
pedestrians
or
you
know,
do
do
we
do
we
revisit
this
two-way
street
idea
where
the
one-way
streets
were
designed
to
funnel
people
in
and
out
of
business
districts,
let's
slow
the
traffic
down
and
get
people
looking
at
both
sides
of
the
street
and
parking's
a
little
easier
that
way
too.
C
We
have
10
years
ago.
I
think
we
started
talking
about
wayfinding
and
it
we
still
have
the
same
signs
we
had
when
I
started
here
10
years
ago,
lots
to
discuss
about
parking
again,
mobility
system,
outdoor
dining,
there's
all
kinds
of
infrastructure
that
we
can
work
on,
but
annie
I'd
like
to
invite
you,
unless,
unless
you
want
to
pause
the
breathe
for
a
second
annie's
going
to
present
her
placement
like
a
place
making
strategy,
that
would
be
like
a
continuance
of
this
presentation.
A
What
what's
the
will,
the
desire
of
the
committee?
Would
you
like
to
continue
with
the
presentation.
C
L
L
So
this
is
by
no
means
a
strategy,
but
I'm
here
to
sort
of
show
you
some
things
that
could
be
implemented
here
in
all
of
our
areas
of
evanston,
not
just
the
commercial
districts
and
especially
not
just
downtown
and
of
course,
my
first
suggestion
is
to
hire
a
consultant
to
create
and
implement
a
public
realm
plan,
not
as
commonly
used
or
heard
of
in
terms
of
urban
planning.
But
a
public
realm
plan
would
be,
you
know,
would
touch
on
these
bullets.
L
I
have
here
really
it
would
be
working
with
someone
who
would
you
look
at
our
assets.
Look
at
all
the
good
things
we
do
have
and
just
enhance
them
and
make
them
a
little
bit
better.
I'm
going
to
have
some
examples
in
the
next
couple
of
slides.
L
Also,
you
know
my
my
concern
about
the
arpa
funding.
You
know
is
that
we'll
go
and
that
we
might
not.
If
we
could
maybe
create
a
place
making
fun,
it
would
have
a
legacy
it
could
live
on
if
we
could
keep
and
continue
to
replenish
it.
L
Several
other
cities
have
place
making
funds
that
they
collaborate,
and
you
know
they
blend
their
funding
from
business
improvement,
districts
or
ssa
districts,
which
is
what
downtown
evanston
central
street
and
main
dumpster
are
other
government
fund
funding,
private
foundation
funding
and
then
they
host
events
to
fundraise
for
their
funds.
L
So
I
use
this
example.
This
picture
because
it
just
is
like
kind
of
the
most
idyllic
city
street
right
it
has
outdoor
eating,
it
has
nice
garbage
cans,
there's
still
good
planters
and
public
seating
and
trees
that
are
all
in
really
great
shape.
But
you
know
we
we
do
have
an
opportunity.
Maybe
I
don't
have
a
price
tag
for
something
like
this,
but
what
could
our
sidewalks
look
like?
L
You
know
I
often
hear
probably
daily
how
great
will
that
is
for
their
outdoor
dining,
and
you
know
that
was
not
an
a
reaction
to
the
pandemic
that
they
hired
tusca.
They
made
a
plan
to
improve
their
sidewalks
four
years
ago,
and
you
know,
and
timing
worked
out
for
them,
because
outdoor
dining
became
way
more
popular
and
prioritized
for
many
people,
so
great
timing
in
their
part
thick.
Why
couldn't
that
happen
here?
Because
we
have
wider
sidewalks
in
easier
sidewalks.
L
A
lot
of
the
sidewalks,
at
least
in
downtown
evanston,
have
the
brick
pavers
that
are
buckling
and
they
kind
of
have
trip
hazards
and
there's
some
trip
hazards
on
central
street
as
well.
So
just
one
idea,
I
take
so
many
pictures
of
garbage
cans.
L
I've
taken
all
three
of
these
pictures,
so
one
thing
that
kind
of
really
always
gets
me
crazy
is
that
we
have
these
old
recycle.
You
know
containers
that
don't
match
our
nice
new
pans.
There
are
some
newer
ones
that
are
for
recycling
but
like
why
can't
everything
match,
and
then
this
trash
can
has
that
lid
on
top
and
I'm
assuming
it's
for
wind,
but
that
can
is
not
full
of
garbage.
I
opened
it.
It
was
hardly
full
people
just
don't
want
to
put
their
hand
down
there.
L
So
that's
what
we're
left
with,
and
this
is
a
common
occurrence.
I
see
this
all
the
time
and
then
I
just
loved
that
I
was
on
a
trip
with
my
husband
in
three
oaks
michigan
and
we
I
saw
these
garbage
cans
and
I
took
several
pictures
of
them
because
I
just
thought
they
were
so
pretty
that's
what
I
do
on
vacation
too
so
years
ago.
L
L
There
is
a
great
opportunity,
I
think,
to
refresh
a
lot
of
the
landscaping
downtown
evanston.
Some
of
you
may
know,
is
responsible
for
a
lot
of
these
plant,
for
all
these
plants
are
landscaping.
So
we're
good
here
we
we
spend
around
55
000
a
year,
maybe
60
on
the
plantings,
the
seasonal
plantings
and
the
raised
flower
beds
are
on
the
flower
paths,
some
of
the
beds
and
I'm
working
with
dave
stoneback
to
figure
out
how
you
know.
If
we're,
where
we're
missing
opportunities,
our
overall
landscaping
budget
is
200,
000
and
100.
L
000
of
that
goes
to
garbage
removal
and
then
30
of
it
goes
to
an
annual
power
wash
and
the
rest
of
it
goes
to
flowers,
couldn't
maybe
that
be
reversed
and
we
have
more
going
to
flowers.
So
it's
it's
we're
working
on
it,
but
not
just
for
downtown
several
other
areas
of
evanston,
I
think,
could
benefit
from
looking
at
the
landscaping
and
buying
you
know
new
greenery
plants,
things
that
are
more
sustainable,
and
this
is
also
just
sort
of
some
current
conditions
right.
L
So
this
is
the
one
on
the
left
is
like
the
store
it
was
supposed
to
be
storm
water.
I
think-
and
it's
this
is
in
front
of
the
former
williams
shoes
I
every
year
I
sort
of
ask
them
to
freshen
it
up
and
it
just
never.
It
never
lasts.
I
don't
know
what
the
solution
is
here:
I'm
not
a
plant
or
horticulturist
by
any
means,
but
my
response
has
always
been
that
it's
because
of
the
salt
and
from
pedestrian
foot
traffic.
L
So
and
then
we
have
several
other
planters
like
this
and
I'm
working
one
by
one
like
an
a
la
carte
system
to
enhance
those.
But,
like
I
say,
with
the
limited
landscaping
budget,
we
have
to
do
it
one
at
a
time
and
it
would
be
just
a
nicer
approach
if,
like
the
whole
city
was
looked
at
in
terms
of
landscaping
and
those
improvements,
I
heard
a
lot
about
public
art
and
gateway
projects.
This
is
a
picture
I
took
in
columbus
indiana.
L
So
are
there
possibilities
for
more
gateway
projects
or
great
gateway,
art
projects
in
intersections
of
evanston's
communities?
To
sort
of
highlight
you
know
you
are
in
this
community
now
I
often
think
of-
and
I
live
very
close
to
the
puerto
rican
flag
arch
in
humble
park,
and
it's
gotta
be
25
years
old
and
still
I
see
people
taking
pictures
of
it
every
day.
You
definitely
know
you're
there
or,
where
you
are
with
pieces
of
art
like
that,
and
then
lighting
is
a
big
one.
L
So
this
is
a
picture
of
central
street
that
now
that
they
have
an
ssa,
they
paid
for
twinkle
lights
or
christmas
lights,
pretty
much
christmas
lights
right
in
each
of
these
trees
and
it's
about
300
a
tree.
One
of
the
things
that
kind
of
hits
a
couple
of
hiccups
is:
if
the
tree
at
the
base
doesn't
have
electric,
then
they
can't
be
lit.
L
L
I
received
a
quote
from
a
local
lighting
company,
but
uplighting
doesn't
work
in
every
area
because
you
don't
want
to
be
shining
lights
in
people's
apartment
windows,
so
moonlighting
is
from
lighting
from
the
tree
down,
but
lighting,
I
think,
would
be
a
huge,
significant
improvement
for
a
lot
of
areas
of
evanston
and
you
can
use
these
trees
as
a
great
example
and
then
there's
interactive
lighting.
I
have
a
video
if
I
have
time
I'll
I'll
share
it,
but
this
is
a
company
out
of
california
and
they
have
this
interactive
lighting
several
of
them.
L
So
this
is
a
singing
tree
and
if
you
sing
or
clap
your
hands
or
play
music
to
it,
it
changes
and
kind
of
has
like
well
it's
interactive
and
then
there's
an
interactive
canopy
that
could
go
in
certain
places
and
when
you
walk
under
it,
it
changes
and
does
like
has
a
really
cool
display
and
then
there's
a
group
out
of
new
york
called
the
urban
kanga
and
they
specialize
in
place
making
materials
and
a
lot
of
it
is
around
the
idea
of
play.
So
they
have
a
whole
host
of
things.
L
I
just
I'm
sharing
a
few
of
them,
so
this
is
a
musical
bench,
it's
not
very
loud,
but
it
is
it's
soft,
but
it's
you
know,
but
it
can
be
heard
and
it's
just
a
playful
interaction.
This
could
be
between
15
and
18
000
for
one
of
these
that
could
travel
from
neighborhood
to
neighborhood.
L
Similarly,
this
product
could
also
travel.
This
is
a
you
know.
Downtown
evanston
has
a
ping
pong
table
in
an
event,
a
woman
got
very
excited
and
basically
threw
herself
on
it
and
we
haven't
pulled
it
out
since
then,
but
this
is
a
little
more
sturdy.
I
think
we
could,
you
know,
invest
in
something
like
this
and
definitely
put
them
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
not
just
downtown,
and
then
they
also
make
these
play
cylinders.
L
These
are
pretty
pricey
but
25
000
for
five
of
these,
and
it's
also
an
interactive
musical
like
drums,
and
then
there
are
these
as
well.
These
are
similarly
hand
drums
and
then
there's
a
group
called
better
black
and
they
are
based
in
texas.
I
believe
they
basically
send
you
kit
like
hit
in
the
mail
I
get
your
business
outside
was
kind
of
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
working
on
or
a
thought
I
had
for
maybe
a
different
grant
program,
but
everything
is
outside
now.
L
So
you
know
people
are
really
enjoying
and
spending
more
time
outside
more
than
we
ever
have,
and
this
is
a
movie
set
up,
so
they
provide
you
with
the
lights
and
the
tables
I
mean
we
don't
have.
This
wouldn't
have
to
be
purchased
from
this
group
that
all
could
be
locally
sourced.
It's
just
an
idea
and
then
market
kia.
L
So
you
know
maybe
again
would
get
your
business
outside
kind
of
as
a
as
an
idea,
not
just
for
street
fest,
but
maybe
more
often,
and
maybe
around
holidays,
but
like
if
the
city
owned
this
infrastructure
and
it
was
used
at
different
street
vests
and
everything
looked
the
same.
L
Maybe
they
could
be
built
at
the
rebuilding
exchange
again
just
some
ideas,
shipping
containers
as
retail
this.
I
can't
remember
what
city
this
is,
but
they
own
all
of
the
infrastructure
and
then
they
rent
it
to
startups
and
entrepreneurs.
For
like
250
a
month,
this
is
beaver,
creek,
no
battle,
creek
michigan.
L
They
created
these
chalets
kind
of
like
a
she
shed
they're
about
like
six
thousand
dollars
each
and
they
put
them
on
a
private
on
a
lot
that
they
owned.
And
again
you
know
retailers
get
like
six
months
of
an
opportunity
to
be
in
here
and
pop
up
their
home
based
businesses
and
then,
of
course,
art.
So
a
live
art
festival
might
cost
around
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
the
thing
that
would
be
great
about
this
is
it
would
be
a
huge
tourism
boon.
L
We
could,
you
know,
definitely
work
with
the
convention
visitor
bureau
to
promote
it
all
over
the
midwest.
You
know
think
artprize,
but
maybe
a
little
smart
and
you're
left
with
permanent
art
afterwards.
So
it's
like
pretty
great
investment.
Uptown
just
did
something
very
similar
and
the
great
part
of
what
they
did
was
that
they
kind
of
did
all
of
the
art
in
one
area
to
create
like
a
vibe.
L
But
then
the
art
was
moved
to
different
parts
of
the
uptown
community
because
they
use
these
boards
and
then
they
install
them
to
buildings
and
then
just
some
like
tactical
urbanism
right,
which
is
like
a
very
low
cost
option
for
in
temporary,
usually
temporary,
for
place
making
things.
So
this
is
just
you
know
some
fiber
cord
with
some
lighting
to
illuminate
alleys.
It
could
be
across
streets.
You
know,
you
know
opportunities
for
where
they
could
be.
You
know
all
over.
L
The
city
depends
right
and
then
also
smaller
little
tactical
urbanism
things
that
are
very,
you
know
affordable.
So
actually,
this
picture
of
the
sewer
on
the
bottom
middle
is
in
evanston.
It's
sort
of
gorilla
right.
He
this
guy
just
came
out
and
did
it
nobody
paid
him,
but
we
could
hire
artists
to
paint
on
all
of
our
assets.
You
know
we
johnson
evanston
years
ago
worked
with
the
locals
one
river
art
school
to
paint
all
of
our
electric
boxes.
We
could
do
that
again.
We
could
do
that
all
over
the
city.
L
You
know
just
lots
of
color
and
art,
there's
a
local
guy
in
chicago
jimbesher.
He
fills
in
potholes
with
these
tiles
and
then
this
guy
he
he
does
a
lot
of
these
things
on
the
sewer
caps,
but
also
just
like
some
paint
goes
a
long
way.
You
know
the
the
joy
on
central
installation,
the
striping
of
the
sidewalks,
that
was
about
four
thousand
dollars
total
and
people
loved
it,
and
they
still
talk
about
it
and
they're
still
out
there.
L
So
just
hiring
the
right
people
to
help
with
that,
and
this
is
in
detroit
and
now
it
looks
enormous,
and
I
know
that
we
don't
probably
have
a
city
lot
this
large,
but
they
took
over
a
city
lot
and
paved
it
and
then
painted
it
and
turned
it
into
a
roller
rink,
which
I
think
is
just
really
cool
and
then
that
place
making.
L
But
a
suggestion
is
that
perhaps
evanston
could
use
a
new
brand
and
work
with
a
branding
team
not
only
to
create
a
brand
in
a
tagline
and
tell
the
story,
but
also
purchase.
You
know
whole
campaign
of
marketing,
so
you
know
recently
berlin
did
this
and
they
have
billboards,
they
have
commercials,
they
have
radio
ads.
They
have
tons
of
advertising
supporting
all
of
their
very
tongue-in-cheek
kind
of
storytelling,
but
then
got
a
new
logo.
It's
a
whole.
It's
a
lot
more
than
just
a
logo.
L
It's
you
know,
it's
a
whole,
the
story
and
the
approach
of
how
we
want
to
present
as
evanston
as
positively
as
as
it
is
it's
a
great
city,
but
maybe
a
brand
could
help.
That's
really
it
so
like
I
say
it
was
not
a
strategy.
L
Paul
asked
me
to
present
some
inspiration
and
that's
what
I
think
I
did
so.
If
you're
looking
for
a
strategy,
I
can
come
back
with
something
more
concrete,
maybe
at
the
next
meeting,
but
that's
it
for
now.
C
E
C
And
to
go
along
with
the
other,
the
other
consultants
I
had
mentioned
earlier,
so
thank
you.
Okay,.
B
D
B
L
B
B
No
paul.
E
B
A
little
bit
I'm
going
to
kind
of
go
down
the
list
and
just
kind
of
respond.
You
know,
I
think
the
retail
market
study
is
probably
one
of
the
more
useful
things
at
this
point
is
as
an
early
step.
The
you
know
covet
is
of
you
know.
Retail
was
changing
anyway,
and
the
merge
and
our
business
districts
were
changing
to
begin
with,
but
I
think
that
looking
at
the
business
districts,
you
know
in
light
of
covet
is
probably
a
pretty
useful
piece
of
information
with
respect
to
the
workforce
development
strategy.
B
I
think
that
what
maybe,
rather
than
trying
to
hire
a
consultant,
I
think
that
that
really
meeting
with
the
you
know
the
the
employ
mayor's
appointment
advisory
council
members.
There
are
a
lot
of
organizations
that
are
doing
job
training.
Now,
youth
job
center
comes
to
mind,
but
also
our
you
know,
oakland
community
college.
I
presume
I'm
not
quite
sure
who
the
major
workforce
training
agency
is
for
nor
suburban
cook,
but
they
have
contracts
with
the
state
and
federal
government
and
lots
of
resources.
B
So
I
think
that,
probably
rather
than
a
consultant,
I
think
that
that
you
know
the
staff
person
or
somebody
dedicated
to
really
work
with
those
organizations
and
identify
the
employment.
You
know.
D
B
And,
and
really
who
needs
training,
because
it's
all
well
and
good
to
have
employment
training,
but
if
we're
providing
employment,
training
for
500
people
out
of
a
workforce
in
evanston
of
like
38
000,
I
mean
that's,
you
know
it's
a
question
of.
Is
that
where
we
want
to
put
our
resources
to
generate
you
know
the
the
money
and
again
you
know,
and
then
the
business
district
infrastructure
again
at
some
point.
B
You'll
need
a
consultant
to
really
kind
of
flesh
out
streetscape
recommendations,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
necessarily
the
first
step,
because
I
think
it's
again,
it's
really
important
for
us
as
a
city
to
understand
what
the
market
is
the
direction
so
that
may
be.
I
think
I
would
probably
put
that
a
little
further
down
in
the
to-do
list,
direct
funding
for
business.
Obviously,
I
think
that
that
there
are
identified
needs
we've
had
it's
at
prior
meetings.
B
B
You
know
because
I
you
know
just
kind
of
looked
at
some
of
the
information
that's
available
from
the
state
and,
and
you
know
and
kind
of
just
where
our
tax
base
is,
and
you
know
in
evanston
our
property
tax
base.
77
of
it
is
residential
property,
and
you
know
the
retail
is
a
pretty
small.
It's
like
20
21,
and
you
know
industrial
which
has
got
well
good.
Paying
jobs
is
almost
nothing
so.
G
B
A
Comment:
that's
that's
helpful.
Okay,
miss
deacon.
Should
we
just
go
down
the
list
like
this?
Why
not?
Yes,.
M
So
I'll
jump
in,
I
appreciate
all
of
this
thinking,
paul
sort
of
synthesizing
everything
that
we
discussed
at
our
last
meeting
and
annie.
Thank
you
for
all
those
ideas.
M
I
feel
like
there
there's
a
balance
that
we
need
to
have
between
the
longer
term,
planning
efforts
and
shorter
term
wins.
I
think
it's
going
to
be,
in
my
opinion,
a
hard
sell
to
go
out
to
the
community
when
our
downtown
is
struggling
and
say
we
are
hiring
consultants
for
all
of
these
things
and
we'll
be
back
to
you
in
six
to
eight
months.
M
I
think
that
we
as
a
as
a
body
and
as
a
city
council
whomever
those
decision
makers
are,
in
my
opinion,
there
are
key
catalytic
of
opportunities
and
I
keep
going
back
to
those
catalytic
opportunities
that
we
can
move
forward
and
then
sort
of
fill
in
around
those
with
some
of
these
items.
I
don't
disagree
that
we're
going
to
need.
You
know
outside
consultants
to
advise
us
on
some
of
these
things,
but.
M
It's
there's
about
it's
about
building
momentum
and
I
I
would
have
a
hard
time
saying
you
know
we're
going
to
study
these
things
for
six
to
eight
months
when
you
know,
in
my
opinion,
there
are
some
things
that
are
clear:
catalytic
opportunities
that
we
need
to
move
on
now,
because
our
downtown
can't
wait
for
everything
to
happen.
Then
I
would
also
say
that.
M
In
my
opinion,
one
of
them
is
moving
the
farmers
market
from
where
the
cr
you
know
where
it
is
currently
to
you,
know
the
downtown
area
that
central
area
so
that
it
can
be
used
to
activate
and
leverage
other
opportunities
in
the
downtown
understanding
where
we're
at
with
the
movie
theater.
I
think
the
north
light
theater
is
a
great
example
of
a
catalytic
opportunity.
M
I
would
add
to
that.
You
know
northwestern
had
a
great
announcement
last
week
and
you
know:
is
it
50
or
75
million
dollars
paul
that's
going
into
that
maple
avenue
lab
street
building.
It's
like
how
do
we
as
a
community
sort
of
take
capture
some
of
the
activity
that's
happening
in
there
and
and
support
it
and
see
how
the
business
districts
around
it
can?
You
know,
can
feed
from
that.
M
I
don't
see,
I
don't
see
a
built
environment
right
now
that
is
sort
of.
I
don't
want
to
call
it
taking
risks,
but
even
our
our
outdoor
dining
areas,
we
have
those
big
cement
blocks
around
them.
You
go
downtown
in
chicago.
You
go
to
these
other
areas
where
they
have
these
outdoor
dining
areas,
even
when
they're
on
the
street,
they
don't
have
these
huge
cement
blocks
around
them.
G
N
I
will
echo
the
lack
of
enthusiasm
if
all
we're
doing
out
of
the
gate
is
hiring
consultants
as
essential.
I
think,
as
that
is
in
the
long
run,
to
allow
us
to
take
a
strategic
approach
to
spending
this
windfall.
I'm
not
saying
we
shouldn't
do
that,
but
how
boring
is
that
and
how
lame
is
it?
If
you
know
I
go
to
a
ward
meeting
and
hey?
How
are
we
spending
that
urpa
money?
N
You
know
a
short
term
kind
of
strategic
analysis
need
for
a
specific.
You
know
defined
objective.
It
makes
sense
to
our
consultant,
I'm
not
saying
we
shouldn't,
but
I
like
the
idea
of
focusing
on
something
that
we
can
point
to.
That
will
still
be
there
in
15
to
20
years
and
we
can
look
back
on
and
say
that's
what
harper
money
did
you
know
that
was
a
catalytic.
N
You
know
opportunity
for
our
community
and
consultants
had
a
role
to
play
in
that,
but
that's
not
no
one's
going
to
get
excited
about
consultants
as
as
necessary
as
they
are
so
I
will
put
in
you
know
a
strong,
a
statement
of
support
for
north
light
yeah
at
whatever
the
number
you
know
it
comes
out
to
be
even
at
two
million
dollars.
N
I
think
that
is
very
justifiable
from
an
economic
investment
perspective
and
I'm
not
sure
what
your
plan
is
for
the
rest
of
this
discussion
paul,
but
I
I
do
hope
at
some
point.
We
will
talk
about
the
criteria
by
which
we
will
be
making
decisions,
and
certainly
one
of
those
will
be
return
on
investment,
and
you
know,
heads
and
tails,
above
anything
that
we've
seen
north
light
can
demonstrate
a
very
strong
return
on
investment.
N
From
the
perspective
of
the
city
of
evanston,
whatever
money
we
put
into
them,
we're
going
to
get
back,
you
know
multi-fold,
so
I
reserve
the
right
to
jump
in
later.
G
A
I
I
echo
member
lynn,
linwald's
recommendation
for
a
retail
study.
Retail
was
going
off
a
cliff
before
covid
came,
but
we
did
have.
We
have
had
some
parts
of
our
city,
our
retail
environments,
that
did
thrive
because
they
were
what
I
described
as
they
defied
the
internet.
And
then
you
know
kind
of
the
awful
part
of
kovid
was
that
it
drove
them
back.
You
know,
because
if
they
didn't
have
a
strong
internet
presence,
then
they
were
then
they
were
struggling.
A
But
I
you
know,
I
I
think
the
businesses
that
we
see
on
the
main
dempster
mile
that
have
that
were
doing
well
before
kovid
are
the
things
that
you
can't
buy
on
the
internet
and
that's
the
shopping
experience
that
people
are
looking
for,
that
the
big
chains
they're
all
on
the
internet.
So
I
do
think
there
was
something
there
that
we
were
seeing
develop,
but
certainly,
I
think,
having
a
retail
study
for
what
do
we
do
with
our
downtown
and
understanding
these
trends,
because
shopping
has
changed
completely.
A
It
was
changing
before
and
then
covet
changed
it
even
more.
So
I
think
we
should
understand.
What's
the
retail
market
going
to
be
because
then
then,
what
do
we
do
to
attract
businesses
that
people
want
to
come
visit,
especially
in
our
downtown
and
in
our
other
business
districts?
So
I
would
support
that
quite
a
bit.
A
Workforce
development
is
something
that
the
council
has
been
talking
about
for
years
and
we
haven't
put
enough
resources
into
it.
Years
ago
I
went
to
a
national
league
of
cities
conference
and
the
most
interesting
workshop.
I
went
to
was
about
louisville,
where
they
had,
they
decided
they
would
have
15
000
degrees
by
the
year
2015
or
so,
and
they
essentially
did
what
this
group
is
talking
about,
but
they
did
it
in
an
organized
way.
They
realized
their
major
businesses
were
going
to
leave
because
they
they
didn't,
have
the
workforce
that
they
needed.
A
So
they
figured
out
what's
the
workforce
of
the
future
for
louisville,
and
then
they
helped
coordinate,
because
louisville
is
very
rich
with
lots
of
educational
opportunities
and
they
did
it.
They
actually
achieved
their
goal
and
it
actually
survived
through
a
number
of
different
changes
of
government
so
that
that
is
truly
something
that
we
have
been
looking
at
and
looking
at
and
nibbling
at
the
edges
on
in
evanston
and
it's
an
essential
need
in
our
community.
A
I
think,
instead
of
a
consultant,
I
like
the
idea
of
a
dedicated
staff
member,
because
you
need
someone
who's
got
the
through
line
who's
there
for
all
of
the
meetings.
You
know
if
it
isn't
a
full-time
employee,
then
a
part-time
employee
or
perhaps
someone
who
one
of
our
icma
interns
who
we
get
to
work
on
that,
because
I
think
that's
really
critically
important.
We
have
our
two
hospitals.
A
We
have
the
university,
we
do
have
our
students
coming
out
of
evanston
and
we
have
the
opportunity
with
oakton
to
do
a
lot
of
coordination,
but
we
need
a
coordinator.
So
I
think
that
is
something
that
really
has.
We've
got
to
maintain
that
and
that's
an
investment
in
our
future
in
terms
of
drawing
and
keeping
employers
here
and
keeping
evanstonians
in
their
own
community
with
respect
to
the
the
business
districts
and
the
place
making
study.
A
I
I
agree
that
those
are
are
critically
important
and
it
does
make
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
what
is
the
experience
going
to
be,
but
I
agree
that
those
might
be
somewhat
lower
down
in
terms
of
where
we
go
in
terms
of
prioritizing,
I
do
think
doing
a
retail
study.
It
may
not
be
exciting,
but
we
have
to
have
something
a
good
plan
in
order
to
invest
these
dollars.
A
I
you're
right
paul
right
now.
People
are
being
kind
of
taken
aback
by
the
delta
variant.
We
had
all
hoped
that
we
wouldn't
be
where
we
are
now,
so
I
think
we
do
have
to
think
of
catalytic
starters
for
the
community
as
we
head
into
the
fall,
which
is
not
that
easy,
but
I
also
do
support
the
direct
funding
for
businesses.
A
What's
the
return
on
this
investment
for
10
years
20
years,
I
actually
was
on
the
council
when
we
voted
in
the
movie
theaters
and
that
transformed
our
downtown
for
the
last
two
decades.
So
I,
but
so
we
you
know,
that's
a
two,
a
20
that
was
a
20-year
investment
and
without
cobid
that
would
still
be
repaying.
A
So
I
think
those
are
the
things
that
we
have
to
do
is
look.
What
does
this
bring
back
to
evanston,
not
in
five
years,
but
in
five
ten
fifteen
years,
and
not
every
dollar
will
be
able
to
do
that.
But
that's
you
know
we
won't
get
this
money
again.
So
that's
my
view
on
that.
I
agree
with
member
newsma
and
northlight
about
north
light,
having
sat
here
and
made
that
decision
and
voted
for
the
movie
theaters
and
watched
what
happened
by
bringing
that
number
of
people
in
downtown.
A
It
worked
so
they
have
been
sent.
They
have
been
taking
people
out
of
our
out
of
evanston
for
for
years
and
they
have
sustained
themselves
elsewhere,
but
they
still
think
of
evanston
as
their
home.
So
I
do
think
that's
that's
really
important.
Now,
even
if
we
gave
them
that
money
they
still
have,
I
mean
that's,
that's
down
the
road,
so
that's
not
an
instant
instant
change,
so
there
are
some
things
that
I
I
hope
we
can
figure
out,
but
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
say
to
people.
A
This
is
an
investment
and
investments
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
pay
off,
but
we
want
to
be
smart
about
how
we
spend
this
money
if
we
could
change
our
two-way
two
one-way
streets
back
to
two-way
streets.
I've
been
a
supporter
of
that
forever.
You
know
now
we
might
actually
have
the
money
to
do
that
and
change
that
our
traffic
engineer
used
to
just
roll
his
eyes
when
I
would
propose
that
to
him.
A
O
Yes,
so
in
full
support
of
the
retail
market
study
and
obviously
with
a
with
a
focus
on
on
the
sub
areas,
which
includes,
as
as
paul
said,
simpson,
emerson
and
in
the
church
in
dodge
area.
O
O
I
think,
obviously,
the
delivery
services
and
and
and
the
the
catering
and
and
all
that
has
helped
folks
hold
on
and
and
and
also
some
of
them
have
converted
to
a
charitable
activity
where
they're
providing
you
know,
food
and
and
other
services
to
the
community
as
a
part
of
their
charity
efforts,
but
that's
certainly
not
a
model
for
sustainability,
and
we
just
have
to
do
better.
O
You
know
in
in
in
the
fifth
ward
and
in
those
particular
business
tracks
to
try
to
attract
people
in
and
draw
people
in,
and
I
do
think
it's
it's
we're
at
the
point
where
we
need
some
some
help,
some
folks
who
who
know
how
to
really
target
areas
for
economic
development
and
recovery
and
and
we
need
to
bring
them
in
to
help
us
with
this.
O
So
in
complete
support
number
one
number
two
workforce
development
strategy,
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
determine
both
for
workforce
development,
but
also
I
would
I
would
say
this
applies
to
our
carbon
implementation
goals,
the
staff
that
we
need
to
to
really
drive
those
two
things
forward.
O
We
need
to
move
beyond
the
the
planning
and
the
talking
and
and
and
understand
that
if,
if
we're
gonna
succeed
in
these
areas,
somebody
has
to
drive
the
work,
it
won't
do
it
by
itself
and
I
don't
think
that's
something
that
that
a
committee
could
tackle
on
its
own
only
meeting
you
know
once
or
twice
you
know
every
couple
months.
I
I
think
it's
it's
it's
vitally
important
that
we
that
we
gain
traction
with
workforce
development.
O
So
I
would,
I
would
support,
looking
into
you
know,
full-time
part-time
staff
to
help
us
with
that
work.
I
also
agree
that
there
are
some
some
moves
that
we
can
make
right
now
towards
workforce
development.
I'm
I'm
focused
on
I'm
working
with.
You
know:
sharon,
johnson,
workforce,
workforce
compliance
person
in
the
city
and
and
and
director
stone,
back
and
and
others
throughout
the
city
to
figure
out
how
we
create
a
lead,
pipe
replacement
workforce
program,
and
my
main
concern
is
that
I
want
to.
O
O
If
we
can
do
it
ourselves,
if
we
can
possibly
create
some
quasi-government
organization
that
we
can
work
with
to
do
the
training
that
could
go
out
and
fundraise
and
but
also
you
know,
bid
on
contracts,
I
don't
know
what
we
need
to
do,
but
the
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
get
people
trained
and
how
to
drive
that
work
ourselves
as
a
city
and
not
shop
it
out
and
expect
someone
else
to
do
it.
We
really
need
to
to
lead
on
that,
and
then
the
business
are
direct
funding
for
businesses.
O
I
mean,
I,
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
on
that.
If
we're
we've
determined
that
we'd
like
to
do
some
direct
funding
to
businesses,
I
think
they
could.
We
could
determine
what
what
amount
we'd
like
to
allocate
towards
that
purpose
and
allow
them
to
apply
when,
whenever
we're
ready-
and
you
know,
review
it
and
then
make
those
allocations
up,
we
might
be
ready
to
do
that.
Placemaking.
Also,
I
actually
offered
to
make
a
while
ago
referral
for
a
placemaking
committee.
O
I
noticed
that
we
used
to
have
the
city
used
to
have
a
public
arts
committee,
and
it
strikes
me
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
some
volunteer
help
around
place
making.
So
if
there's
some
general
interest
in
that,
I
don't
mind
making
the
referral,
and
that
might
be
a
step
we
can
take
before
we
hire
a
consultant.
Thank
you.
D
P
So
I
was
wondering
paul
in
terms
of
the
market
study.
I
guess
I'm
one.
What
would
be
the
main
result
of
that?
I'm
kind
of
curious
like
what
are
some
outcomes.
C
Also,
the
the
question
was:
what
would
the
outcomes.
C
Yeah,
so
what
it?
What
do
I
tell
staff
and
what
we
would,
how
we
would
react
to
the
report
is
these
are
the
types
of
retailers
that
are
active
in
the
marketplace
that
will
fit
into
the
demographics
and
socioeconomics
and
the
spending
potential
in
your
community
and
where
they,
where
we
should
focus
that
placement
in
that
attraction.
C
I
I
play
around
with
this
once
in
a
while,
we
we
go
and
do
the
work
like
we've.
We've
found
a
store
in
in
ravenswood
that
is
close
to
signing
a
lease
like
you
know,
drove
down
there
talked
to
them.
Invited
them
up
here,
walked
them
around,
but
again
I've
probably
put
20
hours
into
that,
and
I
you
know
I
work
40
hours
a
week,
there's
only
so
much
that
right.
C
So
that's
one
idea:
there's
a
number
of
ideas
like
that
that
we've
done
over
time,
but
that's
just
a
gut,
feel
there's
no
strategy
behind
that
it.
Just
you
know,
you
just
use
your
kind
of
common
sense
as
a
resident
of
the
community,
but
the
report,
the
strategy,
would
tell
us
how
much
of
each
that
each
of
the
retail
types
we
would
need.
Where
does
it
go?
We
might,
it
might
even
say,
don't
do
any
retail
in
these
certain
corridors
or
on
these
certain
side
streets
like
focus
your
efforts
here
and
what
ends
up
happening.
C
Is
it's
not
zelmazak?
You
know
coming
here
and
droning
on
like
I
do.
Sometimes
it's
a
fresh
approach,
a
fresh
look
at
it
and
you
know
and
like
miss
payton
said
I
took
that
to
heart
when
she
mentioned,
like
hey,
just
consult
us.
We
know
what
we
want
here.
Well,
I
want.
C
So
we
can
rule
those
things
out
and
focus
on
the
things
that
could
really
work,
and
my
sense
is
that
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
focus
on
trying
to
develop
small
retail,
independent
retail,
there's
a
lot
of
creative
and
smart
people
here
in
this
community.
That
would
do
that
if
they
had
the
capacity
capital
to
do
it.
C
I
think
we'll
learn
more
about
that,
but
again
this
idea
of
like
where
does
it
go?
How
much
of
it
that's
the
kind
of
thing
like
it
would
just
be
really
helpful
to
have
that
kind
of
advice.
P
P
D
B
I
can't
tell
you
for
sure,
but
I
I
think
that
the
kind
of
retail
market
study
you
need,
which
is
really
an
assessment
of
are
these
business
districts
working
where
the
gaps
talking
you
know,
you
know
the
the
consultant
would
talk
to
landlords,
they
would
talk.
You
know
talk
to
businesses
and
you
know
it
shouldn't
be
that
expensive.
I
mean
city
wide,
but
I
would
think
somewhere
more
in
the
50
to
75
000,
and
maybe
you
know
it
depends
on
how
involved
you
want
the
market
consultant
to
get.
B
You
know
the
one
thing
I
would
not
do
is
you
know
in
the
olden
days
they
used
to
have
a
kind
of
what's
called
like
a
retail
gap.
Analysis
where
you
look
at
you
know
all
the
different
categories
of
state
sales
tax.
You
can
get
and
you
say:
well,
you
know
your
dollars.
People
are
going
out
of
the
community
to
buy
these
goods
and
I
don't
think
that
would
I
don't
think
that's
the
kind
of
study
we
need.
B
B
What
are
the
issues
that
landlords
are
having
and
leasing
their
spaces
in
part,
I'm
sure
that
we
will
find
out
that
in
part
it's
because
the
spaces
are
old
and
obsolete
and
they
don't
have
the
the
proper
electrical
and-
and
so
you
know,
we
need
to
know
that,
because
that
can
then
inform
where
you
might
want
to
invest
direct
business
dollars,
for
example,
and.
A
No
a
lot
of
them,
don't
I
mean
they'll,
just
hang
out,
you
know,
we've
had
landlords
who
are
who've
kept
a
you
know
the
space
on
this
starbucks
on
sherman
that
was
empty
for
15
years.
It
was
an
out
of
town
landlord
who
who
never,
who
until
annie
coakley's
predecessor,
actually
contacted
her
and
said.
Let
me
tell
you
what
you
can
do
with
your
building.
A
Did
she
spent
a
whole
year
doing
it
and
now
that
starbucks
is
going
gangbusters,
but
it
was?
It
was
empty
for
15
years
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
people
came
to
this
podium
and
said:
why
aren't
you
doing
anything,
because
there
are
a
remarkable
number
of
landlords
who
own
enough
property
that
they
just
shrug
it
off?
Howard
street
is
a
really
good
example.
P
P
Okay
thanks,
then
the
other
one
I
gotta
admit
if
the
north
light
theater
thing
seems
so
awesome,
but
I
am
sympathetic
to
the
idea.
If
it's
already
happening
giving
money
doesn't
seem
like
it
would
be
needed.
P
I
see,
I
see
the
fairness
argument
if
sort
of
these
incentive
dollars
are
going
to
go
to
other
places,
but
if,
if
we
know
it's
happening,
I
would
be
skeptical
of
of
simply
handing
over
any
amount
of
money,
but
I
would
think
that
would
be
an
example
for
me
how
I
would
see
spending
this
is
like
ass
northlight
of
all
the
cool
things
you
could
do
in
the
area
immediately
around
it.
How
would
you
spend?
P
How
would
you
like
to
see
that
change
and
let
northlake
direct
determine
what
how
the
sidewalk
should
look
and
what
not
what
whether
there
should
be
public
art,
or
so
they
but
the
city
around
the
infrastructure
around
it?
That
would
seem
like
a
good
idea
to
me,
but
directly,
giving
money
if
they're
already
coming.
I
guess
I
am
skeptical
of
and
the
last
thing
I
don't
know
the
details
about
lead
pipe
removal,
but
I
am
100
support
anything
around
that.
P
I've
actually
said
in
on
several
academic
talks,
looking
at
the
effects
of
lead,
and
it
is
with
two
small
children-
it
is
shocking
after
tobacco.
It
really
is
the
one
of
the
biggest
toxins
of
the
last
century.
I
have
no
doubt
so.
I
would
support
any
any
aspect
and
I
can
imagine
there's
many
ways
to
support
more
lead
removal.
Q
So
I'm
also
supportive.
I
echo
concur
with
member
linwall
in
supporting
me.
Could
you
go
back
to
the
things
the
list
of
the
first
yeah
of
having
a
consultant
on
for
the
market
for
the
downtown?
I
think
it's
just
incredibly
complicated
how
to
attract
and
bring
in
and
know
what
our
you
know.
Q
Well,
maybe
not
knowing
as
much
as
getting
you
know,
deal
working
with
landlords
and
retailers
and
having
the
context
and
be
able
to
reach
out
and
figure
out
how
we
actually
get
a
few
anchor
attractive
anchor
stores,
and
I
think
once
we
hit
two
or
three,
it
has
sort
of
a
synergistic
effect,
and
I
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we're
able
to
do
that.
We've
seen
really
popular
too
many,
really
popular
locales
closed
now
in
evanston,
so
we
do
need
to
do
something
drastic
to
get
that
jump
started.
Q
So
I
think
that
is
really
important.
I
do
I
would
like
to
I
mean
we
don't
need
to
be
told,
though,
for
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
key
elements
that
we're
already
aware.
We
know
that
evanston's
really
expensive
it
and
I
don't
want
to
see
us.
You
know
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
somebody
to
come
back
and
tell
us
it's
too
expensive.
I
think
we
need
to
work
on
that.
Q
We
know
that
so
those
components
we
can
start
working
on
now
and
I
think
there's
others
as
well
so,
but
I
do
support
that.
I
think
it's
again
very
complicated
and
we
need
somebody
who
can
really
help
us
do
that
the
sort
of
outreach
we
need
right
now.
So
I
do
support
that
and
again
I'd
like
to
see:
are
these
slides
available
paul?
Do
we
have
this?
This
presentation.
C
Q
I'd
like
to
see,
I
mean
in
terms
like
such
an
rfp,
just
to
see
a
really
tight
rfp
on
that
yeah
and
then,
with
regard
to
workforce.
You
know
I'm
very
supportive
to
member
wins
comment
about
maybe
on
staff,
but
I
would
also
like
to
see
a
pretty
good.
What
do
you
call
like
a
cost-benefit
analysis?
Q
What
who
we
do
have
on
staff
now
and
in
terms
of
our
priorities,
and
are
we
right
now
dedicating
hours
and
time
to
you
know
the
way
that
we
want
to
be
directing
them
in
terms
of
perhaps
we
have
some
staff
now
that
could
be
dedicating
time
towards
workforce
development,
so
I
would
just
want
to
be
sure
that
that
we
can't
that
we're
prioritizing
currently
the
way
all
of
our
staff
has
been
used
in
any
related
area
and
with
regard
to
north
light,
I'm
very
excited
about
north
light,
though
I
also
agree
with
scott.
Q
I
think
that
I'm,
the
two
million
I
think,
is
okay,
but
I
think
we
should
have
a
tangible
return.
I
don't
think
I
mean,
of
course,
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
residual.
You
know
foot
traffic
and
that's
great,
but
I
think
that
we
as
a
city
need
to
ask
for
something
tangible,
whether
it's
a
certain
percentage
of
local
hiring
for
that,
but
something
I
think
we
again
something
tangible.
Q
I
would
for
place
making
and
all
that
I'd
like
to
really
ask
staff
that
we
lead
that
we
start
to
direct,
ask
for
innovative
creative
thinking
from
our
staff
and
look
at
the
many
cities
across
the
nation
that
are
doing
so
many
wonderful
taking
so
many
wonderful
measures
to
make
their
downtowns
alive
and
really
encourage.
You
know
that
sort
of
innovative
leadership-
I
don't
yeah
so
at
this
moment
I
don't
feel
strongly
about
a
consultant
for
place
making.
Q
I
think
we
can
do
this
and
I
just
want
to
mention
we
did
have
this
amazing
meeting
downtown
in
torrential
downpour
with
a
bunch
of
first
word
residents
and
alderman,
newsma
and
and
scott
and
annie,
just
who
are
so
enthusiastic,
so
many
residents
that
are
so
enthusiastic
about
collaborating
who
want
to
reach
out
and
want
to
help
schedule.
Events
in
fountain
square.
Q
We
met
to
see
about
blocking
off
streets,
to
create
streetscapes
and
pedestrian
streets
and
having
weekly
events
on
saturday,
and
so
many
you
know
everybody
wants
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
help
out.
So
we
have
an
amazing
city
with
residents
who
are
prepared
to
commit
and
work
towards
making
place
making
happen.
So
so
I
hope
to
collaborate
with
with
you
more
and
try
and
get
this
figured
out.
A
I
have
councilmember
newsman,
but.
R
Yes,
yes,
I
am
here,
thank
you
for
calling
on
me.
I
will
express
particularly
the
last
two
clear
and
I,
if,
if
the
gentleman's
name
is
scott,
I
want
to
echo
particularly
their
statements.
I
I'll
start
with
north
light.
I
I
also
think
north
light
will
be
a
great
addition
to
our
city.
I
just
I'm,
I'm
not
confident
that
giving
two
million
dollars
to
north
light
will
will
be
a
great
bang
for
our
taxpayers
buck.
R
I
mean
north
light
that
they
were
planning
on
coming
to
evanston.
Before
the
pandemic.
I
presume
that
they
were
going
to
be
able
to
make
the
financing
work
if
there
wasn't
a
covid
19
pandemic,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
they
can
still
still
do
that
without
city
funding.
R
I
mean
we've
spent
already
over
10
percent
of
the
cobit
money
thus
far,
and
another
two
million
would
be
a
sizable
amount,
particularly
if
we
just
look
at
the
the
money
that
we
have
available
for
this,
the
20
million
we
have
available
for
this
year.
I,
but
I
I
am
fully
supportive
and
to
that
same
note,
I'm
not
super
supportive
of
giving
money
to
individual
businesses.
R
R
You
know
projects
that
have
a
citywide
impact,
so
it
to
the
similar
note
that
again,
forgive
me
if
scott
is
not
the
name
that
commissioner
scott
mentioned,
which
is
that
instead
of
you
know
giving
north
light
two
million
dollars,
you
know
having
them
have
a
large
say
in
how
funds
would
be
spent
in
the
area
to
create
an
atmosphere
that
would
be
both
beneficial
directly
for
north
light,
but
for
downtown
as
a
whole.
R
And
so
I'm,
I'm
really
supportive
of
using
funds
to
support
place,
making
to
create
an
environment
in
the
city
that
will
pay
dividends
for
economic
development,
regardless
of
which
individual
business
there
for
for
years
to
come.
R
Yes,
so
I'll
in
there,
and-
and
I
I
do
think-
the
idea
of
consultants
is
is
is
not
a
is
not
a
horrible
one.
You
know
it
may
not
be
exciting
or
fun
or
all
of
those
things,
but
certainly
we
need
the
right
people
to
if
we
don't
have
the
capacity
now
on
staff,
which
I
know
paul
is
kind
of
in
a
silo
by
himself,
particularly
with
some
recent
departures
of
folks
and
a
new
life
coming
into
the
world.
R
Paul
is
kind
of
a
one-man
band
playing
every
instrument
by
himself,
which
I'm
sure
is
tiring,
and
so
I
think
the
idea
of
consultants
in
the
short
term
would
make
sense
to
allow
us
to
to
really
properly
assess
the
information.
R
Have
is
again,
I'm
learning
folks
names,
but
one
of
the
commissioners
mentioned
that
we
would
not
want
to
do
a
conduct,
a
study
on
on
sales,
tax
dollars
that
are
leaving
the
city
and
I'm
I
I
actually
think
differently,
and
so
I'm
actually
curious,
if
that
commissioner
can
expound
and
why
they
don't
think,
that's
a
good
idea.
My
thought
is
that,
if
folks
are
you
know,
just
like
we
were
saying
folks
are
leaving
for
north
light
and
taking
their
dollars
elsewhere.
R
Folks
are
leaving
for
other
expenses
that
they
can't.
You
know
get
here
whether
you
know,
as
paul
kind
of
jokingly,
said
whether
it's
to
go
to
the
gucci
store
or
anywhere
else.
You
know,
I
think
it's
worth
figuring
out.
You
know
what
are
those
key
things
that
people
are
leaving
for
and
and
figuring
out
if
we
can
bring
those
to
our
business
districts
to
to
keep
more
money
locally.
R
Just
curious
why
you
thought
that
wasn't
a
a
good
use
of
the
consultant's
time
and
our
tax
dollars?
Okay,.
A
That
was
councilmember
reed,
that
was
committee
member
gene
lindwald.
B
Yes
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
that
you
know
typically,
the
result
would
be
you
know.
For
example,
you
know
if
you
did
the
analysis.
I'd
say
you
know,
book
sales
are
leaving
the
town
because
we
don't
have
barnes
and
noble
anymore.
You
know
we're
not
likely
to
get
a
bar,
you
know
so
so
the
result
is
you're
not
likely
you're
still
not
likely
to
get
a
barnes
noble
back
or
we're
not
likely
to
get
a
department
store
to.
You
know
to
you
know,
set
up
shop
in
evanston.
B
So
while
you
might
find
that
people
are
shopping
for
books
and-
and
I
guess
actually
now
shoes
in
in
many
cases
in
other
communities,
our
ability
to
attract
that
particular
kind
of
you
know,
business
may
be
limited.
So
it's
you
know
it.
It's
information
that
I've.
You
know
I'm
just
by
way
of
of
explanation.
I'm
a
city,
planner
and
I've
been
worked
as
a
planning
consultant
for
30
plus
years
and
have
worked
with.
B
You
know
various
market
consultants
who
you
know
that's
the
kind
of
information
that
was
produced
and
it's
not
very
helpful
from
a
planning
perspective
when
you're
trying
to
engage
the
community
and
and
figure
out,
you
know
what
are
the
real
opportunities
to
be
unique
and
and
create
special
places
so
that
that
was
the
reason
for
my
comments.
R
No,
that
that'll
and
I
just
I
want
to
apologize.
I
was
late.
I
scheduled
a
ward
meeting
at
the
same
time
as
our
committee
meeting.
I
wasn't
aware
that
I
made
that
schedule
in
conflict,
but
thank
you.
F
No
worries,
I
think
so
many
of
the
comments
that
were
previously
said.
I
I
don't
think
I've
had
anything
else
to
add,
but
definitely
a
good
discussion.
Thank
you.
N
I'll
keep
this
short,
since
we
have
other
things
to
talk
about
and
paul
I'll
follow
up
with
you
with
some
some
more
detailed
feedback,
but
just
three
quick
points
on
workforce
development.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
evanston
is
not
an
economic
island.
You
know
we
exist
in
a
regional
economy
and
let's
keep
that
in
mind
as
we're
talking
about
resource
development,
jobs
we
create
here
or
workers.
We
train
here
likely
won't
stay
here.
N
Number
two
downtown
super
important
and
I
like
the
idea
of
hiring
a
consultant
to
kind
of
guide
us
through
reimagining
downtown
and
whether
or
not
north
light
gets
the
whole
package
they're
asking
for.
We
need
to
spend.
You
know
an
equal
amount
of
money
if
not
more,
making
downtown
a
welcoming
environment
for
everybody,
who's
going
to
be
coming
in,
to
see
a
movie
and
to
see
a
show
and
go
to
a
restaurant
and
go
to
the
farmers
market
and
everything
else.
N
Having
said
that,
downtown
is
important.
It's
not
just
about
downtown.
We've
got
other
business
districts
in
the
fourth
ward,
other
other
neighborhoods
in
evanston,
so
let's
not
get
too
focused
on
downtown
at
the
expense
of
other
areas
in
the
city
that
need
attention,
and
last
but
not
least,
I'm
glad
that
art's
made
your
list
paul
and
let's
put
arts
and
entertainment
together.
N
I'm
sure
that's
what
you
intended,
but
just
to
be
explicit,
developing
evanston
as
a
destination
for
arts
and
entertainment
with
the
movie
theater,
with
north
light
and
with
everything
else
we
can
bring
to
bear
in
that
regard.
I
think
that
fits
in
really
well
with
a
rebranding
initiative,
and
that
was
something
I
think
that
andy
mentioned.
N
A
Yeah
and-
and
I
think
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
on
that
jonathan-
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
also
bring
northwestern
in
on,
because
there
is
so
much
cultural
art
there
that
if
we
can
brand
ourselves
along
with
all
of
the
concerts
and
plays
and
the
block
museum
that
at
northwestern
that
would
be
important
to
say
you
know.
A
Arts
are
alive
and
well
here
in
evanston
and
here's
how
we
want
you
to
think
about
that.
Yeah,
okay,.
G
A
Right,
yes,
can
I
I
I
think.
M
Just
had
a
question
for
you:
paul
we've
been
talking
a
lot
this
evening
about
sort
of
longer
term
strategy,
but
but
to
my
point
of
momentum,
is
there
anything
that
you
can
share
on
your
discussions?
You
know
about
the
movie
theater
or
some
of
these
other
vacant
spaces.
So
when
we
are
trying
to
have
conversations
or
to
you
know,
show
to
the
community
that
there
is
momentum
that
there
are
things
happening,
anything
that
you
can
share
there,
that
won't
impede.
You
know
private
discussions,
sure.
C
C
Me
and
has
kept
me
in
place
for
as
long
as
that.
You
know
this
is
a.
This
is
a
dynamic
community
where
we're
we're
now
at
78
000.
When
I
started
we're
at
74.,
I
take
personal,
you
know
responsibility
or
you
know
I'll
pay
myself
on
the
back
for
bringing
4000
new
people
here,
but
in
all
seriousness
this
is
an
exciting
place,
lots
and
and
there's
still
a
ton
of
things
that
are.
C
C
You
remember
in
november
of
2013
the
current
owner
paid
70
million
dollars
for
that
property,
70
million
by
the
way
that
property
is
the
movie
theater.
It
used
to
be
buffalo
wild
wings.
There's
a
urban
outfitters!
That's
now
closed
across
the
street.
On
the
first
floor,
american
apparel-
I
I
learned
when
I
first
started
that
corner
bakery
the
chain
was:
was
there
as
well
wolfgang
puck
so
and
then
across
the
street,
where
furious
spoon
was
and
it
was
borders.
Now
it's
northwestern
medicine
on
the
upper
floor.
That's
all
part
of
the
same
development.
C
So
this
this
development
is
under
contract.
I'm
hoping
the
new
owner
closes
on
it
by
the
end
of
september.
So
that's
that's
one
update
they
are.
I
would
have
to
assume
it's
the
current
owner.
That's
negotiating
a
lease
with
a
movie
theater
operator.
C
I
can't
imagine
that
the
new
owner
is
involved
in
it,
but
they
might
be.
I
have
no
idea,
but
they
are
close
to
terms
it'll,
look
different
and
feel
different
when
it's
open,
but
there's
there's
always
been
interest
in
that
movie
theater
that
movie
theater
century
the
operator
cinemark
was
struggling
with
the
current
owner
for
years
and
they
used
kovid
to
get
out
of
their
lease.
They
took
him
to
court
as
an
act
of
god
or
as
an
act
of
government.
C
Actually,
when,
when
pritzker
announced
the
public
emergency
and
said
you
can't
go
inside
cinemark
said
our
lease
says
that
we
can
get
out
of
our
lease
if
the
government
restrains
us
from
doing
business,
and
we
believe
that
this
is
one
of
those
cases,
so
it's
not
a
symptom
of
evanston
having
problems.
This
is
this:
is
a
private
market
deal
the
lease
was
too
expensive,
70
million
dollar
basis
on
the
shopping
center
means
the
rents
are
sky
high.
C
You
never
see
an
independent
retailer
in
that
space,
so
I'm
praying
and
hoping
that
the
new
owner
gets
it
at
a
much
lower
basis,
and
what
I've
heard
just
generally
speaking,
is
that
they've
already
got
a
new
program
in
place.
They've
got
letters,
kind
of
out
letters
of
intent,
so
they're
going
to
reprogram
that
that
facility,
if
they
can
close
the
deal
and
and
that's
let's,
let's
give
it
another
30
days
and
that
that'll
be
important.
It
will,
but
still
it's
it's
on
the
west
end
of
downtown.
C
It's
on
a
quieter
block,
people
kind
of
forget
about
it.
So
what
can
we
do
to?
You
know
attract
people
over
to
that
to
that
corner.
More
often,
so
are
there
other
questions,
because
I
have
a
few
questions
that
I'd
like
to
ask
committee
just
so
we
can
so
we
can
do
our
job
and
move
forward,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
heard
some
things
correctly.
A
G
A
Me
we
have
council.
B
Committee,
member
lynn,
wall,
yes,
hi,
just
two
real,
quick
things.
First
of
all,
under
the
workforce
development,
I
think
you
are
allowed
to
be
talking
to
the
cradle
to
career
group,
because
that's
you
know
yeah
we're
talking
about
careers
here
and
then
second,
I
think
that
while
I
think
closing
off
streets
and
some
of
the
other
ideas
for
events
downtown,
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
careful
because
we
have
small
businesses
that
are
impacted.
B
I've
got
one
that
I
know
you
know
one
person
operation
and
you
know
she's
got
clients
that
that
can
be
disabled,
so
eliminating
parking
for
the
festivals
means
she
can't
see
clients.
So
I
think
you
know.
Fountain
square
is
fine,
because
that's
what
it's
designed
to
do,
but
I
think
we
we
need
to
be
kind
of
at
least
sensitive,
that
that
there
are
businesses
that
may
be
impacted
by
certain.
B
You
know
activities,
and
I
think
we
also
ought
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
the
people
who
are
benefiting
the
vendors
or
whoever
is
operating
the
festival
is
not
the
the
one
who's
making
all
the
profit
that
that
the
city
is
getting
something
back
from
from
the
event.
Okay,.
A
Paul,
I
I
have
council
member
kelly
great.
Q
I
just
I'm
to
your
point:
annie
coakley
is
surveying
businesses
or
she
already
did
a
survey,
but
I
haven't
seen
the
results
yet,
but
about
this
so
we've
been
in
we're
trying
to
work
very
closely
with
the
businesses
surrounding
fountain
square.
A
Yeah,
I
will
just
say:
custer
street
fair
frequently
was
the
least
favorite
weekend
for
many
of
the
maine
dempster
businesses
out
of
the
year,
and
it
was-
and
I
whoever
the
fourth
ward
alderman
and
I
heard
about
it.
Every
year,
yeah.
C
Right,
I've
often
heard
the
streets
alive
streets
alive
is
something
that
really
bothers
the
merchants
as
well.
Just
as
a
side
note,
so
do
you
mind
if
I,
if
I
share
yes,
go
right
ahead,
thank
you
observations
or
so
so
I
really
appreciate
the
feedback
on
consultants.
Now
I
want
to
stress
if
we
can
get
outside
help,
we
have
more
going
on
kind
of
simultaneously.
We
have
studies
going
on
with
engagement
going
on,
we
have
recommendations
happening
and
then
we
can
go
on
and
implement
it.
C
So
to
the
extent
that
that
we
can
use
consultants
to
help
us
expedite,
that
would
be
really
helpful
to
staff
now
and
I'm
definitely
this
idea
of
like
selling
the
sizzle
so
to
speak.
Yeah
you
couldn't,
have
you
know
more
dull
kind
of
conversation
about
sending
out
the
consultant,
so
I
appreciate
it
as
exciting
as
we
are
as
consultants
right.
I
used
to
consult
you
know,
but
I
definitely
understand
that.
So
you
know
I
do
want
to
I.
C
C
C
D
C
Can
be
intimidating
so
if
we
can
create
an
environment
of
trust
and
safety
and
allowing
us
to
fail
once
in
a
while
to
to
really
try
this
out.
I
think
I'll
speak
for
myself.
I.
I
would
appreciate
that
I've
always
felt
support
of
this
committee,
but
I
think
I'm
going
to
assume
that
there
are
some
staff
members,
especially
in
a
public
government
kind
of
bureaucratic
risk-averse
mindset,
that
people
are
probably
a
little
bit
afraid
to
step
out
of
their
comfort
zone.
So
we
love
to
I'll
speak
for
my
entire
team.
C
C
I
need
clarification
on
this
idea
of
a
downtown
study,
because
I
think
I
hear
two
things.
One
there's
a
retail
study
and
I
think
this
might
be
part
of
what
what
mayor
bis
will
talk
about
in
a
moment.
But
there
might
be
this
aspect
of
a
downtown
study.
That's
not
just
saying
here's
leakage!
Here's
you
know
you've
got
an
opportunity
to
collect
50
000
in
furniture
sales
right.
C
So
let's
it's
it's
something
different
tied
together
with
how
do
we
improve
the
physical
plant
of
downtown,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
clear,
because
I
think
it's
two
different
studies,
there's
a
downtown
planning
study
and
a
retail
market
study,
so
clarification
on
that
would
be
good
internal
collaboration.
The
branding
conversation
is
big.
I
could
use
a
little
help
with
clarifying
that
I'm
not
talking
about
tonight.
We
can
work
on
that,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
take
the
chance.
C
While
I'm
standing
here,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
collaborate
and
engage
with
the
community
in
a
different
way
to
figure
out
who
we
are
as
a
community.
What
are
we?
Are
we
a
suburb?
Are
we
a
village?
Are
we
an
urban
center?
I
think
we're
all
those
things,
but
how
do
we
blend
it
all
together?
So
we
feel
like
we're
rowing
in
the
same
direction
on
on
the
crew
boat.
It's
okay
people,
different
sizes
and
we're
all
working
on
the
same
on
that
same
race
row
on
the
boat.
C
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
develop
that
idea
further.
I
think
it's
really
important
we're
working
on
a
smaller
initiative-
and
you
know,
annie,
annie
coakley-
is
helping
lead
that
with
the
ceo
group,
just
to
create
kind
of
a
a
smaller
brand
around
attracting
office,
but
I
think
we
could
do
more
and
then
I
think
everything
that
we
do
moving
forward.
C
There's
this
idea
of
elevating.
We
need
to
elevate
evanston
in
a
way
that
we've
not
we've
not
done
before
and
I'll
use
an
example
of
a
street
fair.
We
always
see
white
tents
at
street
fairs.
Always
our
farmer's
market
has
white
tents.
We
have
art
fairs
and
white
tents.
We
can
elevate
that
experience.
We
can
have
cool
little
kiosks,
we
could
have
you
know.
I've
been
really
researching
bryant
park
this
this
model
of
a
private
non-profit
that
funds
the
park
in
in
and
it's
a
massive
park.
C
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
they
have
really
nice
infrastructure
makes
you
want
to
hang
out
there.
If
you
think
about
chris
kindle
market,
you
go
down
there
because
you
want
to
hang
out
in
the
really
cool
gingerbready.
You
know
town
square
with
you
can
never
do
that
during
kobe.
By
the
way
I
mean
the
people
shoulder
to
shoulder,
but
people
do
that
because
it's
a
fun
experience
if
you
put
a
bunch
of
white
tents
with
hot
chocolate,
and
it's
just
it's
not
the
same.
C
So
we
have
to
think
of
how
we
can
elevate
everything
that
we
do
our
art
fairs
could
be
better.
Our
music
could
be
better.
We
have
talented
musicians,
we
have
space.
So
let's
always
remember
that
as
part
of
how
we
do
our
work.
So
I'm
going
to
encourage
that
and
I'm
I'm
not
running
for
office
I'll,
stop
speaking,
I
think.
That's
it
and
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
need
to
do.
A
E
C
Workforce
development,
the
conversations
I
had
last
week-
and
I
want
to
stress
this-
what
I,
what
I'm
planning
to
do
is
have
have
a
meeting
and
collaborate
with
all
of
the
partners
and
again
ask
them
what
it
is
that
they
need.
Maybe
it's
nothing,
maybe
I've,
maybe
maybe
my
gut's
wrong
on
this.
Maybe
they've
got
it
handled.
I
think
we
need
somebody
but
that's
step.
One
then
we'll
go
from
there.
Okay,.
A
Paul
I
have
two
more
council
members
here.
First
is
council
member
kelly
and
then
councilmember
burns.
So.
Q
To
respond
to
having
staff
get
involved
with
innovative
projects,
and
not
you
know
and
with
the
risk
of
failing,
I
think
it's
also
just
really
important
to
collaborate
with
community.
I
can't
tell
you
the
encouraging
and
heartwarming
emails
I've
received
from
residents
say
I
am
so
it
means
so
much.
I
just
moved
to
town
to
be
to
be
partaking
in
you
know.
Q
The
improvement
of
my
city
means
so
much
to
me.
So
I
just
I
think
it's
important
that
there's.
You
know
that
it's
that
that
direction's
given
also
to
collaborate
because-
and
I
can
tell
in
just
three
months
on
this
job-
that
even
a
great
idea,
if
it's
done
in
isolation
of
the
community
of
of
any
aspect
of
the
community
it
just
it
can
it
can
flop.
Even
if
it's
wonderful,
so
I
just
think
that's
a
really
key
piece,
and
I
think
I
love
the
idea
of
staff
and
staff
who
wouldn't
normally
be
involved
in.
Q
O
Yeah,
so
my
my
one
of
my
questions
was
was
answered,
which
was:
do
you
need
direction
from
us
to
move
forward
on
the
first
recommendation
and
I
think
we're
saying
yes,
we
don't
need
to
vote
on
that.
C
C
I
would
also
ask
this
is
again:
we
started
this
last
meeting,
we're
continuing
it.
We
have
to
keep
the
flow
of
ideas
going
and,
whether
that's
through
your
referral
process
or
through
the
mayor
through
the
to
the
city
manager,
but
let's
we
can't
wait
like
30
days
each
time
to
suggest
ideas.
So,
let's
just
keep
doing
it
right.
A
Okay,
well,
I
I
think
in
the
terms
I
would
say
in
terms
of
arpa
money
paul,
I
I
think
the
conversation
has
been
opened.
So
do
we.
I
I
think
if,
if
members
of
the
committee
have
an
idea,
I
think
going
ahead
and
talking
to
you
and
other
members
of
the
committee,
I
don't
necessarily
see
that
as
having
to
go
through
a
referral
process,
but.
C
I
O
So
I
do
think
there
are
some
specific
needs
that
I
want
to
be
really
sensitive
to
in
in
in
the
fifth
ward-
and
I
think,
that's
you
know
us
working
with
paul
just
to
be
clear
on
what
we're
looking
for
out
of
this
proposal
out
of
whatever
contractor
or
consultant
we
work
with.
So
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
those
two
things
and
then,
as
far
as
workforce
like
we
need
to
stop
over
complicating
stuff
like
where
are
the
jobs
to
me?
What's
really
exciting
about
lead
pipe
replacement?
Is
it's
30?
O
We
have
a
30-something
year
mandate
right
from
the
state
I
went
by.
You
know
I
was
riding
my
bike
one
day
and
and
saw
the
parkway
dug
up
right.
It
was
a
three-person
job,
you
had
an
excavator,
you
had
a
crew
leader
and
you
had
somebody
working
the
the
truck
okay.
So
we
know
it's
three
people
per
job
site
over
30
years.
How
many
jobs
can
we
create
did
a
little
bit
of
research?
They
said
you
know
what
you
know.
O
I
think
the
city
can
train
people
to
do
the
city
side
of
the
led
water
service
line,
but
you
know
what
we're
not
trained
to
do
water
main
and
we're
not
trying
to
do
the
service
valve
to
the
water
meter.
Okay,
so
then,
the
next
question
is
how
much
work
is
is
is
on
the
public
side
of
those
projects,
but
let's
just
like
figure
out
where
the
jobs
are,
what
the
training
is.
That's
required
who's
going
to
do
it.
O
What
is
the
cost
and
get
the
money
out
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
we
know
where
these
jobs
are
again.
Meac,
obviously
is
a
good
resource,
but
let's
also
talk
to
the
job
creators
and
just
ask
them
like:
where
do
you
need
help?
Where
do
you
need
people
and
what
type
of
training
is
currently
offered?
And
how
can
we
help
you
ramp?
That
up
like
I,
the
next
time
we
talk
about
this,
I
would
just
like
some
real
concrete.
Like
we
talked
to
this
employer
they're
saying
this
is
where
the
jobs
are.
Here's.
O
A
Because
relying
just
on
the
community
I
mean
all
of
those
people
have
other
full-time
jobs,
other
things
in
their
lives,
but
if
other
communities
have
made
this
work,
so
that's
why
I
support
having
either
an
intern
or,
or
you
know,
a
part-time
employee
who
is
just
who's
center
who's.
Staying
on
the
through
line
of
doing
this
research
then
making
the
next
set
of
calls
and
the
next
set
of
calls
and
the
next
set,
and
where
do
you
get
that
training?
I
mean?
That's,
that's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
that
right.
O
C
Yeah
what
I,
what
I
would
ask
is:
if,
if
you,
if
you
would
like
for
staff
to
pursue,
you,
know
some
bringing
something
back
to
council
that
addresses
a
staffing
need.
I
think
I
know
what
I
need
to
do
to
do
that,
and
I
started
that
conversation
last
week
with
some
workforce
development
partners
that'll.
Eventually
they
they
know
what
the
jobs
are
and
they
have
programs
in
mind.
C
They
need
to
know
where
the
people
are
and
how
to
bring
the
people
to
the
jobs
and
bring
the
people
to
the
training.
Excuse
me,
then,
to
the
jobs,
so
I
will
gladly
with
your
direction.
I
don't
think
we
need
a
formal
vote
on
it,
but
I
will
gladly
come
to
a
future
city
council
meeting
with
some
kind
of
proposal
or
mweb
or.
However,
we
want
to
do
this
to
to
move
it
forward.
Because
again
I
try
to
express
this
is
what
we
need.
It's
a
person
yeah.
C
C
A
You
don't
necessarily
need
a
college
education,
but
you
might
need
an
associate's
degree
or
some
type
of
certification
that
allows
you
to
do
the
job
and
so,
but
you
need
a
person
who's,
making
all
those
those
connections.
C
Right,
so
what
I
would
ask
tonight
is
if
you
could
direct
staff,
if
that's
what
you
want,
and
the
committee
agrees
that
we
will,
we
will
come
back,
hopefully
to
counsel
with
something
that's
actionable
and
implementable.
That's
both
on
the
retail
market
study.
I
can
come
to
the
city
council,
probably
on
the
27th,
with
a
request
to
initiate
a
proposal.
In
fact,
I
don't
know
if
I
have
to
do
that
right,
I
could
probably
just
initiate
an
rfp
for
for
for
a
I.
A
A
Okay,
why
don't
we
separate
them?
Okay,
so
would
someone
make
a
motion
with
respect
to
the
retail
study,
sure
committee
member
lynn,
wall.
B
I'll
move
that
we
direct
staff
to
investigate
or
work
to
develop
the
plan
to
move
forward
with
a
retail
market
study
and
consultant
rfp
right
in.
A
All
seconded
okay,
mr
zelmastak,
would
you
call
do
you.
D
N
We've
already
started
to
spend
our
money
and
I
would
prefer
not
to
spend
more
money
until
we
know
what
our
overall
strategy
is.
Until
we
have
a
framework
and
structure.
I
understand
the
proposal
here
will
help
us
define
that
structure
and
we're
not
voting
on
it
at
a
council
level
tonight.
But
you
know
I
want
to
just
be
very
cognizant
of
nickel
and
diming
the
arpa
money
on
stuff
like
this
and
and
other
stuff.
That
is
very
important
and
very
attractive
and
we
want
to
spend
money
on
it.
But
you
know
we
turn
around.
B
And
I
have
a
suggestion,
because
I
think
that
is
a
very
good
point
and
what
we
might
direct
staff
to
do
is
to
contact
some
retail
market
consultants
and
ask
generally
how
much
money
were.
We
should
be
budgeting
for
this.
You
know,
given
what
we're
talking
about,
which
is
essentially
an
assessment
of
the
market
study.
Then
then
you'll
have
a
range
to
work
with.
A
Right
and
then
the
council
could
make
the
decision
at
that
point
because
whether
to
move
forward
or
not.
B
C
G
C
B
Yes,
the
motion
would
be
to
direct
staff
to
investigate
the
class
of
a
retail
market
assessment
for
all
of
the
city's
business
districts
and
to
develop
a
draft
rfp
for
the
council
to
review
all
right.
C
Will,
as
soon
as
I
finish
typing
my
notes:
okay,
councilmember
braithwaite,
all
right,
councilmember,
reed,.
O
A
All
right,
so
that
will
thank
you,
gene
so
next.
The
second
thing
that
we
need
a
motion
on
is
to
direct
staff
with
respect
to
workforce.
Would
someone
make
that
motion.
A
I'll
move
that
we
direct
staff
to
come
back
to
the
council
with
an
analysis
of
of
a
full-time
employee
description
to
address
workforce
development.
D
G
R
B
O
N
E
G
A
Okay,
so
now
we
do
have
two
more
items
for
discussion.
The
first
item
is
a
referral
from
councilmember
burns
to
discuss
burying
comed
transmission
lines
in
the
second
and
fifth
ward
and
councilmember
burns.
Did
you
want
to
address
this
or
paul?
Are
you
going
to
be
addressing
this
somewhat.
C
C
One
was
referred
by,
I
was
going
to
say
alderman
biss,
but
mirabis
to
discuss
what
what
he
referred
to
as
a
walkability
of
downtown,
and
I
and
I'll
have
him
explain
what
that
is,
and
it
really
ties
into
what
we
talked
about
earlier
with
placemaking
and
and
infrastructure,
and
then
the
second
matter
was
comed
utility
line
barom,
and
I
think
we
we
have
to
decide
as
a
community
in
the
community
how
we
want
to
how
to.
C
C
A
C
I
will
put
the
photos
up
on
the
screen,
so
we
can
look
at
the
site.
G
G
G
A
D
C
What
I've,
what
I've
depicted
in
the
memo
is
what
what
I'll
call
a
comed
substation
it's,
this
area
that
I
am
drawing
with
my
cursor.
It
is
kind
of
surrounded
by
robinson
bus
rental.
Obviously,
there's
there
are
buses
parked
here,
robinson
owns
this
property,
and
then
this
is
the
infamous
tape
coat
property
on
both
sides
of
lions,
usps
facilities,
management,
and
then
this
is
a
you
know.
This
is
auto
repair
and
then
this
is
a,
I
believe,
it's
owned
by
the
robinsons
rented
out
for
for
kind
of
used
cars.
C
At
one
point
I
don't
know
what
it's
used
for
today,
but
so
this
particular
station
is
the
beginning
or
terminus
you
can
see
kind
of.
If
this
were
3d,
I
could
probably
also
run
through
a
google
map,
but
this
is
a
tower.
That's
the
first
tower
that
then
strings
across
it
really
kind
of
divides
the
the
east
and
west
sides
of
the
fifth
and
the
second
wars
respectively
and
arguably
an
eyesore.
They
do
serve
a
purpose.
Obviously,
they've
been.
G
C
And
this
is
the
high
school
parking
lot
right.
Looking
east
and
again
at
the
base
of
this
is
a
is
a
vacated
rail
right-of-way.
That
was,
you,
know
the
mayfair
right-of-way
and
then
a
couple
more
just
so
you
can
see
how
this
is
distributed
throughout
the
community
and
then
here
we
are
again
looking
at
the
overhead
lines
on
a
really
prime
development
site.
This
is
a
continental
construction.
C
And
this
is
looking
north.
This
is
the
high
school
power
plant.
Okay-
and
this
is
this-
would
be
viewed
from
greenwood
so
to
the
east
is
dodge
and
that's
it
so
they're
they
they're
clearly
of
you
know
kind
of
a
visible
scar
on
the
community
and
but
more
from
my
perspective,
putting
the
the
aesthetics
aside,
there's
really
several
really
good
development
opportunities
that
are
impossible
because
of
the
infrastructure
that's
in
place.
So
that's
how
I
would
set
it
up
for
you
and
I
don't
know
how
you
want
to
take
it
next.
O
Yeah
and
I'll
just
expand
that,
especially
around
the
emerson
and
lions
area,
to
the
substation
so
to
zoom
all
the
way
out.
There
were
several
decisions
at
some
point
in
history
made
to
use
space,
particularly
in
the
fifth
ward,
for
what
I
would
consider
is
not
the
greatest
use
even
from
this
overhead.
If
you
can
go
back
to
that
paul.
G
B
O
From
the
overheads
you
can
see
so
this
is
this
is
around
emerson
alliance.
You
can
see
that
we
essentially
have
a
huge
swath
of
land.
One
of
the
uses
is
tape.
Coat
accessory,
creates
accessories
and
coatings
for
oil
pipelines.
It's
a
site
of
concern
for
air
pollution.
So
that's
in
this
area
general
area.
Then
we
have
the
bus
company
so
essentially
where
we
have
an
an
air
polluter.
We
have
a
huge
swath
of
land
for
parking
both
for
the
post,
us
postal
service,
maintenance,
repair
location.
O
That's
that's
that
we're
now
seeing
so
it's
basically,
this
whole
space
is
like
parking
lot
parking
lot,
air
polluter
and
then
the
substation-
and
it's
that's
that's
how
we're
using
space
and
then
in
other
parts
of
the
the
war
we're
using
it
for
for
storage
containers.
It's
just
it's
terrible
use
of
space.
I
would
doubt
I
highly
doubt
that
is
creating
a
lot
of
jobs
and
local
employment
opportunities,
and
so
just
zooming
all
the
way
out.
O
A
nice
seating,
outdoor
area,
some
better
options,
retail
and
commercial
options,
and
so
the
question
is:
how
do
we?
How
what
do
we
do
with
this?
It's
a
big
problem,
there's,
obviously
a
cost
associated
with
it.
So
you
know,
I
think,
is
the
first
step
is
reaching
out
to
one
just
seeing
who
the
point
of
contact
is
a
com
ed
who
could
help
us
start
to
better
understand
what
the
cost
to
bury
or
relocate
or
reconfigure
the
substation
area,
and
how
to
deal
with
the
the
transmission
lines?
We
don't
have
anything
right
now.
O
I
know
there
were
some
efforts.
Some
previous
efforts
led
by
councilmember
braithway
to
to
get
numbers
and
see
what
that
cost
would
look
like,
and
but
I
I
don't,
I
don't
think
it
got
far.
I
don't,
I
think,
there's
still
some
work
to
do
there.
So
if
we
can
reach
out
to
the
external,
I
think
it's
the
external
affairs
manager
at
comed
and
schedule
a
meeting
so
that
we
can
give
numbers
on
how
much
it
would
cost
and
and
what
can
we
can?
We
do
what's
realistic.
What's
not
realistic
what
you
know.
F
And
and
thank
you
very
much
house
members
bringing
back
so
they're.
Actually
this
this
conversation
has
been
in
front
of
this
committee
several
years
ago,
so
we
have
several
different
models
and
I
can
afford
those
again
a
few
as
well
as
the
other
committee
members
that
we
looked
at
in
terms
of
a
shared
cost.
I
think
it
was
a
million
dollars
per
poll
and
different
models
that
show
cost
share
for
residents
just
by
adding
cents
to
their
electricity
bill.
F
So
I
do
agree
getting
in
front
of
our
new
new
external
affairs,
and
I
know
I
have
her
email
and
contact
information
in
my
email
address
who
took
over
for
those
that
have
been
on
the
committee
ultimate.
When
would
probably
remember
his
name
carlo
cabera,
I
can't
remember
the
woman's
name
but
I'll
afford
it.
F
We'll
look
at
the
cost
models
and
I
think
it's
definitely
something
that
we
would
want
to
possibly
utilize
our
harper
funds.
I
I
realize
that
there
are
also
funds
at
the
county
level
and
maybe
even
at
the
the
state
level.
I
think
if,
if
it's
going
to
happen
now
would
be
the
best
time.
But
again,
this
is
it's
a
heavy
lift,
that's
going
to
require
focus
and
a
lot
of
dedication
of
time.
If
we're
going
to
go
down
the
path.
That's
one
thing
that
I
would
say.
O
And
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
add
that
this
emerson
street
is
a
is
a
is
a
major
truck
route
and
thoroughfare.
It
has
the
emerson
and
and
where
it
meets
with
green
bay
and
ridge,
and
all
that
has
the
highest
clearance.
So
many
many
cars
pass
through
here.
Look
at
the
trucks
right
here
I
mean.
G
A
Paul
you
will
make
the
reach
out.
Oh,
I
have
council
member
newsmen
here.
N
Having
spent
two
terms
on
the
utilities
commission,
this
is
just
straight
up
the
alley
of
the
utilities
commission,
so
I
know
that
the
external
affairs
coordinator
for
comed
does
meet
with
the
utilities
commission
regularly,
I'm
not
suggesting
we
need
to
wait
for
that
scheduled
meeting,
but
dave
stoneback
of
public
works
is
in
regular
contact
with
comed,
so
we
can
have
some
ballpark
answers
fairly
quickly.
N
This
is
going
to
be
somewhat
less
than
a
bajillion
dollars
right,
but
not
cheap,
and
what
we're
talking
about
here.
This
is
a
substation.
The
high
overhead
lines,
high
voltage
lines
go
to
the
power
plant.
That
brings
electricity
to
us
here
in
evanston.
The
substation
then
takes
the
high
voltage
down
to
lower
voltages
and
sends
it
out
to
the
smaller
poles
that
go
in
their
alleys.
So
we
need
something
like
this
somewhere
close
by.
D
N
S
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I'm
god
knows
no
expert
on
the
subject,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
two
more
considerations
on
the
committee's
plate.
The
first
is
something
that
council
member
nusma
is
very
well
familiar
with.
The
city
is
in
the
process
of
renegotiating
our
franchise
agreement
with
comed.
S
S
Pretty
intense
meeting
with
kelly
godersky
and
kumar
and
some
some
representatives
from
comed,
I
think
they
were
surprised
at
how
strong
and
regressive
a
position
we
took.
We
believe
that
was
the
right
position
to
take,
and
I
you
know
we
have
a
very
long
list
of
asks,
but
I
think
making
sure
that
this
is
on
that
list
when
we
have
our
follow-up
discussion
with
them
would
be
certainly
valuable.
S
That
won't
happen
until
kumar's
replacement
is
here,
because
that
person
would
be
a
key
part
of
the
negotiations,
but
it's
something
to
keep
in
mind
the
second
thing
and
to
be
clear,
I
am
no
expert
on
this.
Much
to
my
chagrin,
but
the
you
know,
the
federal
government
is
in
the
process
of
passing
legislation
that
includes
very
significant
funding,
specifically
for
electric
grid
modernization.
S
One
of
the
nation's
foremost
experts
on
the
subject
is
council
member
kelly's
next
door
neighbor.
You
know,
I
think
I
understand
that
this
is.
This
is
now
well
in
the
weeds
of
kind
of
federal
legislative
affairs
that
a
community
our
size.
Doesn't
you
know
it's
not
like
we're
chicago?
We
have
a
whole
lobbying
team
in
dc,
but
it
it's
worth
figuring
out.
However,
we
can,
if
some
of
that
funding
could
be
accessed
for
this,
because
your
point
is
right.
O
S
A
Works
out
well
comment
should
not
be
surprise.
Meribus
at
that
we
are
hard
negotiators,
because
we
we
have
held
their
feet
to
the
fire
in
each
of
the
prior
negotiations.
A
B
Yes,
I'll
be
quick,
it
is
very
expensive
I
about
20
years
ago
I
worked
with
a
community
that
had
a
lot
of
high
voltage
lines
going
through
and
they
did
look
at
trying
to
ask
you
know
come
had
to
bury
them
and
it
was
prohibitively
expensive.
B
I
just
did
a
quick
google
search
and
it
looked
like
you
know.
The
cost
I
came
up
with
is
750
a
foot
to
bury
the
lines
which
would
work
out
to
about
four
million
dollars
a
mile,
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
you
know
some
of
the
some
of
the
other
concerns.
Are
you
know?
You
know
reliability,
you
know
if
it's
harder
to
find
a
break
underground
than
it
is
in
the
overhead
line.
So
that's
one
point
with
respect
to.
D
B
The
you
know
are
the
high
voltage
lines
running
on
on
land
that
that
comed
owns
at
this
point
and
with
respect
to
the
the
property
fronting
on
emerson.
If
that's
privately
owned,
then
then
that
might
be.
You
know
a
potential
development
site
which
at
least
would
screen
the
substation
from
view.
So
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
different
avenues
that
should
be
approached.
B
N
A
And
yeah
something
like
that,
and
certainly
the
old
mayfair
right
away,
they
may
have
purchased
that
for
those
transmission
lines
over
time
be
interesting
to
see
who
owns
all
of
that.
O
And
I
just
want
to
quickly
say
I
mean
we're
grappling
with
terrible
use
of
land
space
with
the
substation
tape,
coat
environmental
polluter
and
a
waste
transfer
station
all
in
a
very
tight
area.
So
no
matter
how
it
happened,
it's
not
it's
not
right,
it's
not
acceptable,
and
but
I
think
a
good
first
step
is
is
is
starting
with
the
numbers,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
You
know
it
shouldn't
be
in
the
first
place.
O
It
is,
I
don't
know
how
it
happened,
but
there's
just
too
much
going
on
literally
in
in
a
triangle
area:
you
have
a
waste
transfer
station.
You
have
the
tape
coat.
You
have
you
know
this,
this
substation,
which
again
not
to
put
the
tinfoil
hat
on,
but
it
is
a
hazard.
You
know
a
fire
hazard.
It
is
a
hazard
for
radiation
exposure
and
other
things.
I
can
get
deeper
into
this,
but
you
know
so
but
yeah,
I
think
a
good
first
step
is,
is
figuring
out
the
numbers.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
G
G
F
Before
we
move
forward,
can
I
just
maybe
formalize
this,
so
we
don't
lose
sight
of
the
importance
in
the
timing
and
sir,
I
would
love
to
I've,
sent
you
all
information,
some
previous
numbers
that
probably
need
to
be
refreshed,
I'm
still
passionate
about
it.
There's
alderman
burns
and
and
possibly
councilmember
newsma
and
miss
linwall
may
form
a
little
subcommittee
from
our
economic
development.
F
A
Okay,
council,
member
braveheight,
I
think
that's
really
important
and
I
agree
we
need
to
get
concrete
information
and
so
that
we
can
know.
What's
an
approach
to
take
care
and
mayor
bis
is
right.
We're
there
is
this
infrastructure
federal
infrastructure
bill.
That's.
A
N
N
Yes,
yes,
that
utilities
commission
meets
7
15
on
friday
mornings
at
the
or
the
second
friday
7
15
in
the
morning
at
the
water
treatment
plant.
N
Last
time
I
was
there,
I
was
in
person,
but
I'm
not
sure,
okay.
A
All
right
now,
mayor
bis,
would
you
like
to
just
speak
on
the
referral
that
you
made?
I
think
some
a
lot
of
the
discussion
we
were
having
earlier
ties
into
directly
into
what
your
what
it
sounds
like
your
referral
is
all
about.
S
Yeah
absolutely-
and
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
your
indulgence,
I'll
try
to
be
really
quick.
It's
you've
all
been
at
this
for
a
long
time
and
exactly
as
you
say,
madam
chair,
this,
this
topic
has
been
interwoven
in
a
lot
of
what's
coming
up
today.
I
also
want
to
thank
paul
for
all
the
work
he's
put
in
echo
jonathan's
comments
that
were
we.
D
S
S
So
I
simply
in
you
know,
keeping
with
a
lot
of
what
was
said
today
have
a
very
strong
interest
in,
and
you
know
acknowledging
that
a
lot
of
our
downtown
is
designed
very,
very
well
to
move
cars
quickly
and
it's
not
as
person
focused
in
its
design
and
I'm
not
an
expert
in
this
field
at
all.
S
So
I'm
not
coming
with
anything
close
to
a
specific
proposal,
but
there's
a
very,
very
large
menu
of
options,
many
of
which
were
just
mentioned
tonight,
especially,
but
not
only
by
council
member
kelly
that
I
think
are
worthy
of
consideration
so
that
that
would
include
narrowing
streets.
Widening
sidewalks,
beautifying,
sidewalks,
making
streets,
one-way
streets,
making
streets
as
councilmember
newsman,
said
zero-waste
streets
and
closing
them
off.
For
you
know,
leaving
them
for
pedestrian
cycling
traffic.
S
S
This
is
a
collection
of
things
that
we
all
find
attractive
to
here's
a
plan
to
figure
out
which
ones
of
them
we
believe
to
be
feasible,
logical,
here's
a
process
to
include
the
various
stakeholders
to
have
this
discussion,
as
member
linville
indicates
that
you
want
to
have
the
various
business
owners
at
the
table
to
ensure
that
you're
not
imposing
from
without
an
idea
that
sounds
good
to
us,
but
actually
would
not
work
for
the
people
who
are
currently
doing
business
in
these
areas
so
that
we
can
then
move
move
forward
and-
and
again
perhaps
that's
our
consultant.
S
A
Enjoy
well,
I
I
agree
with
you
and
I
think
placemaking
needs
to
be
very
deliberate
and
I've
been
to
a
con
to
a
conference
about
in
portland
several
years
ago
about
the
importance
of
the
town
square
and
the
whole
theory
behind.
A
That
is
what,
if
you
look
at
cities
in
europe
and
cities
anywhere
around
the
world,
so
much
of
it
is
focused
on
the
town
square
and
what
can
happen
in
the
town
square
and
we
have
a
lot
of
those
elements
in
our
town
right
now,
in
terms
of
a
gathering
space,
we
spent
that
money
for
fountain
square
to
finally
renovate
it.
After
so
many
years
of
people
saying
it
doesn't
work
and
it
didn't
work,
and
so
there
are
so
many
features
of
fountain
square
that
create
our
towns,
make
it
a
town
square.
A
You
know,
there's
the
zero
there.
A
There
aren't
any
curves
anymore,
so
you
can
use
the
entire
space
there's
actually
a
water
feature
with
so
that
when
it's
working
I
mean
that's,
actually
a
critical
element
in
town
squares,
and
so
I
I
think,
get
putting
capitalizing
on
that
and
spreading
that
I
that
from
that
idea
of
going
outward
in
terms
of
fountain
square
in
terms
of
okay,
how
do
we
extend
the
feeling
that
we
got
with
fountain,
fountain
square
and
programming
it,
and
once
again,
before,
covid
people
were
sitting
out
on
those
tables
and
having
lunch
every
single
day
and
whatever
the
weather
was
and
annie.
A
Coakley
has
thursday
dance
dancing
on
dancing
at
fountain
square
before
covent,
so,
but
we
need
to
re-energize
that
effort,
but
then
also
make
it
spread.
I
agree
with
you
make
it
spread
out
throughout
our
all
of
our
downtown,
so
all
of
it
is
as
tuned
in
to
place
making
as
what
we
did
with
fountain
square
so
that
widening
sidewalks,
slowing
traffic
down
ultimately
reversing
those
two
one-way
streets,
I
think,
would
be
really
important.
Q
A
Q
Want
to
say
something:
councilmember
kelly,
I
mean:
can
we
move
this
evening
for
staff
to
begin
to
develop
a
referral
for,
for
example,
fountain
square
that
we've
done
work
on
for
saturdays,
say
at
least
start
that
process
of
looking
at
how
that
will
impact
traffic
and
cutting
off
what
we've
already
discussed
you?
You
know
what
that
area
is
paul
davis
street
and
the
two
streets
surrounding
fountain
square
for
saturdays.
I
think
that's
what
we
discussed
our
group
downtown.
Could
we
can?
Can
we
begin
that
process
tonight.
E
C
So
councilman
kelly,
I
mean
the
the
facilities
were
built
to
do
that.
It's
just
a
matter
of
programming
it
and
assigning
somebody
to
do
it
and
manage
it
and
get
public
works
to
make
sure
that
they're.
G
C
C
No,
that's
what
I'm
saying
right.
So,
if
we're
going
to
close
the
streets
to
do
the
programming
that
some
of
your
constituents
talked
about,
yes,
there's
a
multi-faceted
effort
within
the
city
to
do
that.
Police
public
works,
probably
something
else
that
I'm
not
thinking
about
right.
So
we
just
need
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
If
we
want
to
do
this
on
a
weekly
basis.
What's
the
staffing
plan,
how
is
it
done?
How
is
how
is
police
staff
assigned,
and
it's
not
relying
on,
annie
coakley,
to
run
out
there
and
put
up
barriers
right?
C
I
mean
it's
like
we've
got
to
change
the
mindset
of
how
we
implement
these
elevated
concepts
that
we've
been
talking
about
so
again.
I
think
this
is
really
it's
capitalizing
on
this
idea
that
the
mayor's
bringing
it
forward
and
asking
the
city
manager
to
direct
staff
to
to
do
the
work
to
implement
this,
and
if
that
means
that
we
need
to
hire
people
or
contract,
I
don't
know
I'm
not,
I'm
not
the
person
that
assigns
the
staff,
but
that's
what
we
need.
We
need
people
to
do
it.
Yeah.
A
I
I
think
once
again
the
issue
is
it
that
this
is
this
idea,
but
that
we
don't
have
enough
staff
right
now
to
implement
this,
and
there
aren't
enough
people
right
now,
but
I,
but
I
also
do
think
in
terms
of
getting
I'm
not
necessarily
in
favor
of
a
consultant
at
this
point.
But
consultants
we
did
do
a
streetscape
consultant
along
chicago
avenue
quite
a
while
ago,
and
that
is
that
is
the
transformation
gradually.
I
love
to
chicago
avenue.
A
We
have
developed
a
template
and
it
has
gradually
been
put
in
place
as
each
parcel
on
chicago
avenue
is
developed
and
that
template
is
still
working
very
well
on
chicago
avenue.
So,
but
we
did
that
with
a
consultant
who
walked
the
street.
Did
lots
of
community
outreach
and
then
developed
a
plan
based
on
what
everyone
their
vision
of
what
they
wanted
to
see?
A
Has
it
been
finally
completed
not
entirely,
but
it
it's
so
different
than
it
used
to
be,
but
so
I
think,
there's
real
value
in
a
consultant
bringing
us
these
ideas,
because
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
do
that
or
getting
a
group
of
community
members
and
gene
and
I've
talked
too
much
and.
B
B
You
know,
we've
got
always
have
had
an
issue
with
bikes
on
the
sidewalks
in
downtown
evanston
and
we've
got
lots
of
seniors
right
and
you
know
I
you
know
I
actually.
When
I
go
downtown,
I
walk
downtown
because
I'm
close
enough-
and
so
I
have
not
found
that
the
one-way
streets
generate
rushing
traffic.
I
mean
they're
the
site
stoplights
there's
times
so
that
that
you
know
that
that's
just
never
been
an
issue,
so
I
for
one,
am
not
necessarily
in
favor
of
getting
rid
of
the
the
one-way
streets.
B
I
think
that
that,
if
anything,
they
tend
to
slow
traffic,
because
you
have
to
kind
of
think
about
where
you're
going.
And
you
know
so
I
I
would
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
be
encouraging
lots
of
skateboarders
or
even
scooters.
Given
the
seniors
and
the
kind
of
you
know
population
that
we
have
downtown
so.
But
I
think
that
we're
not
going
to
know
that
unless
you
have
community
conversations
and
you
and
you
talk
to
the
residents
and
the
businesses
and
and
the
shops.
G
Q
Go
ahead,
so
I
just
mean
in
terms
of
so
there
are
many
components
to
this
I
mean:
can
we
begin
it
doesn't
mean
we're.
We've
decided
tonight
exactly
how
this
will
look,
but
we
know
I
mean
I
think
we
know
geographically,
I'm
just
referring
now
to
fountain
square
and
sort
of
the
first
word
and
fourth
ward.
To
begin
to
look
at
those
streetscapes,
those
you
know
pedestrian
areas,
and
I
mean
with
the
staff
we
have.
We
can
at
least
get
some
numbers
and
some
idea
in
terms
of
sure.
C
I
I
have
very
clear
direction
on
what
yeah
I
mean
this
that
that's,
what's
really
great
about
the
community
structure,
is
we
we
do
the
work.
Sometimes
it
takes
three
hours.
Sometimes
it
takes
an
hour,
but
the
work
is,
you
know,
kind
of
dulled
out
in
this
environment.
So
I
I've
taken
that
and
and
I'll
do
what
I
can
I'm.
I
won't
be
working
on
it,
but
I'll
work
on
a
team
with
making
sure
that
we're
collaborating
and
probably
pulling
in
some
of
your
community
members
to
help.
L
All
right,
no
I'm
here
this
is
I'm
just.
I
thought
it
would
be
helpful
because
I
had
it
handy,
but
this
is
our
current
thursday
night
market
street
closure
setup,
so
we
only
close
orington
from
davis
to
not
even
all
the
way
to
grow,
but
we've
done
various.
You
know-
and
I
think
and
I've
shared
all
of
these
with
council
member
kelly
like
different
setups,
were
different,
larger
scale
events,
and
then
this
is
just
more
of
a
smaller
event.
L
I
think
this
is
what
we
had
talked
about
at
her
community
meeting
out
in
the
pouring
rain
was
doing
this
kind
of
layout
for
saturdays,
but
I
think
she
also
wanted
to
maybe
even
close
off
davis
but
allow
cars
to
turn
right
and
go
north
on
orington,
but
close
davis
off
okay.
M
I
guess
I'd
like
to
get
clarity
on
sort
of
what
direction
we're
giving
paul
based
on
the
referral
from
mayor
biss,
and
you
know
back
to
my
earlier
point
of
making
sure
that
we're
not
only
coming
out
with
a
series
of
rfps.
I
do
think
that
looking
at
the
infrastructure
and
how
the
infrastructure
best
serves
or
does
not
serve
our
built
environment
is
an
example
to
your
point
of
jonathan
of
using
that
money
to
invest.
M
You
know
and
that's
a
theme
that
we've
heard
you
know
investing
you
know,
10
15,
20
years
down,
the
road
infrastructure
is
is
certainly
in
in
sort
of
that
built
environment
is,
is,
is
a
key
place
that
we
could
do
that,
and
so
you
know
we
can
look
to
these
examples
of
fountain
square
to
chicago
avenue.
To
some
of
these
places,
where
we
have
utilized
a
consultant
to
best
determine
how
can
the
you
know
the
the
built
environment,
the
infrastructure
best
service,
you
know,
so
I
would
I
would
support
something
like
that.
N
Half
of
my
mind
is
on
comed
right
now,
so
I'm
only
speaking
with
half
a
brain
but
one-way
street
two-way
street
personally
ambivalent.
N
If
it's
zero-waste
street,
I
start
to
get
excited
otherwise,
just
for
what
it's
worth,
I'm
not
going
to
get
wrapped
around
an
axle
on
on
one
way
versus
two-way,
but
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
make
downtown
the
destination
that
we
needed
to
be
to
take
advantage
of
north
light.
The
movie
theater
and
you
know,
an
advertising
campaign
that
goes
out
regionally
and
draws
people
to
evanston,
because
we
have
a
cool
slogan
and
we're
a
cool
place
to
visit.
E
G
M
Okay-
and
I
would
just
add
that,
when
we're
talking
about
downtown
one
of
the
comments
that
we
heard
from
one
of
the
members
last
member
gallagher
was
sort
of
leveraging
our
beat
front,
that
is
a
key
part
of
the
appeal
of
evanston,
and
so,
when
we're
talking
about
you
know
leveraging
those
assets.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
that
on
the
table.
M
G
Q
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
the
time
to
bring
this
up
but
parking,
and
I
I
expensive
parking
prohibitive
parking.
Punitive
parking
does
not
encourage
biking
and
walking
just
for
the
record
everything
I've
seen,
that's
not
a
way
to
encourage
greener.
Q
It's
just
a
way
to
discourage
people
from
coming
downtown
and
we're
kind
of
known
as
sort
of
the
mean
parking
city
so
and
then-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
time,
if
you
may
hold
it
hold
off.
But
I
do.
I
would
like
to
us
to
start
the
discussion
about
the
possibility
of
a
two-hour
for
just
in
the
name
of
bolstering
the
recovery
of
our
downtown
sort
of
a
pilot
program
for
one
year
of
a
two
hour
or
one
hour,
free
parking.
A
I
I
claire,
I
think,
that
that's
sorry,
council
member.
E
A
I
think
that
that's
definitely
something
that
we
should
look
at.
I
certainly
we
all
certainly
hear
a
lot
about
that,
and
I
do
think
that,
right
now,
when
our
downtown
is
not
what
it
was
that
that
is
something
that
we
should
talk
about.
A
So
I
could
we
put
that
on
the
next
edc
meeting,
okay,
yeah,
because
I
think
we
need
to
understand
once
again
understand
the
numbers
I
mean
I
you
know
looking
at
any
number
from
covid
during
covid
is
going
to
be
distorted,
but
given
the
fact
that
we
now
have
a
delta
variant,
our
downtown,
I
parked
really
easily
in
our
downtown
today.
A
Admittedly,
northwestern
students
aren't
back,
but
I
had
a
choice
of
four
or
five
spaces
on
sherman.
That's
not
good
so,
but
so
I
think
we
need
to
understand
what
does
that
mean
if
we
did
a
one-hour
parking?
You
know
a
number
of
years
ago.
We
did
an
analysis
of
how
long
people
shopped
in
our
downtown,
how
long,
how
much
time
they
actually
used.
It
was
under
two
hours.
A
D
C
Can
I
also
recommend
a
consultant
for
par
I'm
just
kidding
for
parking,
I'm
just
kidding
we'll
get
michael
rivera
and
his
team
to
put
a
data
set
together,
understanding
that
kovid,
you
know.
C
To
understand
in
a
perfectly
operating
environment,
what
were
the
revenues
if
we
gave
up
an
hour
or
two
for
free?
What
is
that
going
to
cost
the
city?
Is
it
a
way
to
attract
people
and
businesses
to
come
back
to
evanston,
to
recover
from
covid,
and
we
can
plug
budget
gaps
with
arpa?
There's
lots
of
ways
to
look
at
this,
or
maybe
there's
a
there's,
a
fee
structure
that,
if
you're
in
a
spot
for
longer
than
two
hours,
maybe
the
tickets,
thirty
dollars
instead
of
twenty-five.
Q
B
Is
kind
of
irrelevant
right
now,
but
maybe
it'll
it'll
be
put
back
together.
A
All
right,
everyone
we're
approaching
the
three
hour
mark
and
I
think
we've
done
terrific
work
tonight.
I
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
all
of
the
contributions
and,
in
particular
paul.
I
want
to
echo
the
what
mayor
bis
said.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
the
work
that
you're
doing,
and
we
know
that
you
are
you're
just
cloning
yourself
and
that's
how
this
is
happening.
So
thank
you
for
that
clone.
If
it's
the
clone
tonight
or
the
real
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
O
I
would
like
to
see
so
along
with
what
they're
looking
for
I'd
also
like
to
see
you
know
what,
if
we
had,
you
know
three
hour
street
parking
spaces.
What
if
we
did
a
better
job
of
letting
folks
know
where
the
parking
garages
are?
I
doubt
those
are
utilizing
the
way
they
could
be.
So
you
know
in
addition
to
seeing
what
free
parking
will
do.
I
also
would
like
to
see
what
else
we
can
do
to
to
maybe
extend
ours
at
the
street
level.
R
If
I
can
also
chime
in
parking
is
an
issue
that
I
pay
a
lot
of
attention
to
and
have
done
a
lot
of
reading
on
from
folks
like
jeff
speck,
you
know
and
then
others
you
know,
there's
the
cost
of
the
the
hidden
cost
of
free
parking
by.
R
I
think
the
guy
named
doug
and-
and
I
think
and
I've
spoken
to
mike
rivera
on
this
particular
topic
a
number
of
times
and
I
think
we
we've
grown,
thrown
a
fond
friendship
because
of
that
because
of
our
you
know,
shared
passion
for
parking,
and
I
I
think
what
we
can
do
the
studies,
but
I
think
what
it'll
show
is
that
free
parking
is
not
good
for
either
the
businesses
nor
the
the
city
as
a
corporation
in
and
of
itself,
and-
and
so
I
I'll
just
echo
what
councilman
burns
said
that
I
believe
we
really
need
to
focus
on.
R
How
do
we
get
folks
to
use
our
parking
garages?
How
do
we
get
folks
to
use
alternative
modes
of
transportation
rather
than
investing
even
more
money
into
the
costly
and
and
endeavor
that
is
car,
focused
mobility,
and
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
really
get
smart
about
this
and
and
start
to
look
toward
the
future
as
opposed
to
digging
deeper
and
deeper
into
a
hole
that
has
proven
that
is
unsustainable.
A
Right,
I
have,
I
have
two
people
and
council
member
reid.
Yes,
that
we
have.
I
have
that
book
at
home
on
my
shelf
and
I've.
I've
read
it
and
part
of
the
why
our
parking
rates
are
high
was
to
because
the
analysis
is
that
drives
you
into
the
parking
garages
where
we
actually
do
have
one
hour
free.
So
those
are
all
really
important
things
that
we
need
to
look
at,
and
I
agree
the
the
the
more
we
get
people
out
of
their
cars,
the
better
off
we
all
are.
A
I
have
council
member
kelly
and
then
I
have
paul
salmozak
and
then
we
are
10
seconds
to
9..
A
Q
Very
quick:
this
is
we're
in
a
moment
of
recovering
from
a
pandemic,
so
everything
needs
to
be
approached
also
in
that
context,
and,
furthermore,
the
study
it
will
be
from
doing
this
a
pilot.
This
will
be
what
we'll
be
able
to
look
at
to
see.
If
this
helps
or
not,
we
haven't
done
this
for
a
year,
tried
this
and
that's
the
idea
of
this
to
look
at
this
and
see
what
it
does
do
in
terms
of
what
sort
of
revenue
sales
tax
revenue
this
would
bring.
C
You
have
the
last
word.
Thank
you.
So,
on
september
22nd
on
my
proposed
agenda,
I
had
referral
for
comed
power
lines,
check
referral
for
walkability
done
construction
covered
grant.
We
already
talked
about
that,
so
I
had
three
things,
one
of
which
was
a
presentation
from
cmap,
a
really
good
parking
presentation
from
a
really
good
cmap
planner,
and
I'm
hoping
that
maybe
we
can
devote
some
time
with
this
presentation
and
and
it'll
be
a
little
better
than
just
having
mike
read
data.
So
let
me
build
that
agenda.
C
Okay,
and
I
thank
annie
for
reminding
me
that
I
had
that
on
my
on
my
upcoming
meetings,
there's
also
a
potential
6b
for
board
manufacturing.
They
want
to
renew
that
and
we'll
we'll
push
off
the
special
service
area,
101
education
session.