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A
Right
all
right,
let's
count
on
melissa
being
able
to
catch
up
with
us.
We
have
a
quorum,
hello
and
welcome.
My
name
is
jane
grover
right
now,
chair
of
the
equity
empowerment,
commission,
big
welcome
to
carla
and
kimberly.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
applying
to
the
commission
and
saying
yes,
when
asked
to
be
appointed,
congratulations
on
your
appointment,
which
happened
by
the
way
just
this
week
on
monday
at
the
city
council,
meeting
I'd
love
to
go
around
the
room
and
introduce
ourselves
all
around
the
room
with
a
reminder
to
those
of
you
who
have
been
on
the
commission
for
a
while
that,
let's
not
use
acronyms,
let's
make
sure
that
we
explain
context
for
our
two
new
members
that
we
spend
some
time
just
explaining
things
more
so
that
we
are
all
on
the
same
page
as
soon
as
possible.
A
Thanks
so
much
so
again,
jane
grover,
I
chaired
the
commission
at
the
moment.
I'm
gonna
go
the
way
you
are
all
stacked.
In
my
view,
if
that's
okay,
I'll
just
impose
a
little
order
here,
alejandra
you're
next.
B
In
my
view,
thank
you
good
evening.
All
my
is
alejandra
ivanias
I've
been
serving
on
the
committee
since
its
inception
happy
to
be
here.
I
am
a
returning.
Evanstonian
came
here
in
the
late
80s
graduated
from
eths
class
of
91,
and
now
I'm
raising
three
sons
in
evanston.
I
will
have
two
middle
schoolers.
This
fall
and
my
eldest
is
a
sophomore
at
eths.
B
D
A
E
Awesome
good
evening,
everyone
welcome
carla
and
kimberly.
My
name
is
shanika
holdenkirk,
I
won't
use
acronyms.
So
I
am
the
international
city
county
management
association,
fellow
for
the
city
of
evanston,
so
I
work
with
the
city
of
evanston
and
I
have
been
on
this
committee,
I'm
one
of
the
new
ones
as
well.
I
started
a
couple
of
months
back
in
late
2019.,
so
welcome
to
have
you
guys
and
to
my
right,
dolores
holmes,.
F
Good
evening,
I'm
dolores
holmes,
a
retired
evanstonian
community
person
volunteer
whatever
I've
been
with
the
commission
since
its
inception.
I
have
done
several
things
in
the
community
over
the
years,
a
1957
graduate
from
eths,
so
my
kids
are
all
grown.
My
grandkids
are
all
grown,
so
that's
it.
So
I
keep
myself
busy
doing
volunteer
work.
F
G
Hi,
all
my
name
is
tim.
I've
been
on
the
commission
from
the
beginning.
So
what
two
and
a
half
years
now
and
I've
lived
in
evanston
for
ten
years,
I
I
teach
at
garrett,
theological
seminary,
got
three
children,
one
who
just
graduated
another
one
who's
going
to
be
a
senior
and
then
a
rising
sixth
grader
at
king
arts
so
and
I've
particularly
represented
environmental
justice
evanston.
H
Hey,
thank
you.
Tim
hi,
everybody
good
to
see
you
carl
and
kimberly
thanks
for
being
here.
My
name
is
max
weinberg.
I
am
I've
been
in
evanston
for
three
years,
only
so
still
a
lot
to
learn.
I
my
partner
and
I
have
two
kids
a
14
year
old
who's,
starting
at
the
high
school
in
the
fall
and
a
nine-year-old
who's
at
washington.
H
We
are
we're,
proud
district,
65,
family
and
I'm
a
proud
district.
65
employee,
I'm
a
principal
at
lincolnwood
elementary,
where
a
lot
of
evanston
history
and
issues
of
race
and
class
converge
daily,
and
it's
something
that
I'm
really
really
passionate
about
and
and
it's
what
drove
me
to
be
on
this
committee
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
the
inner
workings
of
evanston
and
be
a
part
of
building
a
better
evanston,
especially
for
black
and
latinx
families.
I
Yeah
yeah
there's
there's
now
two
kimberly's,
oh
we're
gonna
figure
out
which
one's
gonna
be
called
kim,
so
kimberly,
richardson,
as
as
interim
assistant
city
manager,
I've
been
with
the
city
since
2016..
I
I
don't
know
how
many
years
ago
that
was
because
it
feels
like
forever,
and
I
started
here
as
the
assistant
too,
I've
been
working
and
have
worked
in
the
role
of
deputy
manager
prior
to
my
current
statuses
in
trump.
I've
been
working
with
this
committee
for
now
over
a
few
months
and
also
in
other
ways
supporting
the
committee
behind
the
scenes.
Lastly,
I
would
say
I
am
not
an
evanston
resident.
However,
I
feel
like
I
should
be
since
I'm
here
more
than
I
am
in
my
own
home.
I
However
my
roots
and
in
my
tie
to
the
community,
I
have
a
deep
appreciation
for
the
history
that
a
lot
of
the
community
members
haven't
shared
and
expressed
in
the
commitment
of
those
who
come
in
voice
and
be
a
part
of
change
of
government.
So
I
really
appreciate
working
here
and
working
with
you
all.
J
Hi
hi
everyone.
I
am
happy
and
honored
to
be
here
to
join
this
committee.
I
have
been
an
evanston
resident
for
seven
years.
I
this
summer
will
be
seven
years.
I
have
two
district
65
kids,
one
going
into
fourth
grade
and
the
other
one
going
into
second
grade,
and
I
joined
this
committee
because
I
not
only
resident
and
business
owner
in
evanston,
I
teach
equity
and
anti-racism
classes
and
I'm
about
to
become
a
grad
student
again
at
northwestern,
studying
equities
in
education.
A
J
K
I
I
was
frozen
for
a
second
sorry.
My
internet
might
get
a
little
glitchy
melissa,
you
want
to
go
or
you
go
and
then
I'll
follow
you.
Okay,
sure,
hello,
everybody!
My
name
is
kathy
lyons.
I
guess
you
can
all
read
that
now
and
I
like
carla
thanks.
I
had
not
thought
to
put
my
my
pronouns,
my
preferred
pronouns.
That's
a
it's
a
great
idea.
I
will
do
that,
but
my
preferred
pronouns.
Are
she
her
and
hers,
and
I've
been
in
evidence?
K
I
was
trying
to
do
the
math
in
my
head
and
I
can't
I
moved
here
in
94.,
so
whatever
that
is,
I
am
a
parent
thinking
hearing
all
the
65.
My
kids
are
proud
graduates
now
of
district
65
and
eths
and
are
in
college.
I
have
21
year
old,
twin
young
men.
K
K
Prior
to
that,
I
worked
at
the
james
b
moran
center
for
youth
advocacy,
which
tries
to
keep
kids
in
school
and
out
of
the
juvenile
injustice
system,
and
I've
been
involved.
A
lot
with
schools
and
the
non-profit
community
is
part
of
those
roles,
but
also
as
a
parent,
because
one
of
my
sons
has
special
needs,
and
so
I
was
involved
with
a
lot
of
parent
organization
activities
from
the
time
they
were
in
preschool
yeah
and
I'm
I'm
delighted
to
have
two
new
members.
So
thank
you
and
welcome
carla
and
kimberly.
L
Hey,
can
everyone
hear
me
okay,
great
hi,
good
evening,
everyone?
My
name
is
kimberly
walton.
I
am
excited
to
be
here
a
little
bit
about
me.
I
am
a
recent
transplant
both
to
illinois
as
well
as
evanston.
L
We've
lived
in
evanston
for
about
three
years,
which
is
the
same
amount
of
time
that
we've
lived
in
illinois.
We
moved
here
for
my
husband's
job
relocation
and
we
kind
of
landed
in
evanston
accidentally,
and
then
we
decided
that
we
wanted
to
stay
here,
and
so
over
the
last
couple
of
years
I've
been
learning
a
bit
more
about
the
community,
particularly
the
history
of
evanston.
L
We
we
purchased
the
home
in
the
fifth
ward
and
so
we're
fifth
board
residents
and
so
we've,
you
know,
joined
a
few
of
those
meetings
and
just
really
trying
to
get
more
connected
to
the
community
and
and
understand
you
know
how
to
get
involved
and
how
to
get
more
civically
engaged.
L
I
currently
work
at
blue
cross
blue
shield
of
illinois,
where
I
work
in
product
development
and
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
health
equity
team
there,
where
we
kind
of
look
at
how
are
our
products
and
services
contributing
to
the
goals
of
advancing
and
promoting
health
equity,
particularly
in
the
chicago
area,
but
also
in
the
other
states
that
we
serve.
L
I'm
a
native
of
houston,
texas
and
I
am
a
proud
mother
of
a
soon-to-be
nine-month-old
baby.
L
So
if
you
see
me
off
camera
or
a
little
distracted
or
on
mute,
I'm
probably
nursing
or
chasing
chasing
him
around
as
he's
learning
to
to
crawl
and
soon
to
walk.
So,
congratulations.
Thank
you.
A
Wonderful,
we
have
a
couple
of
guests
to
the
meeting,
but
we
will
get
to
spain.
I
didn't
get
to
introduce.
C
Myself,
melissa,
sorry,
hello,
hello,
sorry!
I
was
having
a
little
bit
of
technical
problem
getting
on
so,
but
I'm
very
glad
to
be
here
carla
and
kimberly.
Welcome
it's!
So
it's
going
to
be
very
interesting
to
have
you
join
us.
We
we
we
need
and
look
forward
to
your
experience.
I
am
I'm
melissa
wynn.
I
am
a
member
of
the
city
council
on
the
city
council
liaison
member
of
the
equity
empowerment
commission.
I've
been
on
here
since
about
this
inception.
C
I
represent
the
third
ward,
which
is
southeastern
evanston
and
I've
been
on
the
city
council
for
23
years
so
long
time,
but
I
am
very
excited
about
this
commission
and
what
we
can.
A
Do
thank
you,
melissa,
dorian,
we'll
get
to
you
during
public
comment.
If
that's
all
right
and
joan,
are
you
here
for
the
league
of
women
voters,
I'm
assuming
I'll
assume
until
until
you
tell
me
otherwise?
Yes,
I'm
here
with
observing
for
league
of
women
great,
thank
you
joan,
welcome,
so
carla
and
kimberly
the.
As
someone
said,
the
commission's
been
in
existence
for
a
little
more
than
three
years
we
have
bylaws
which
kimberly
richardson
is
going
to
polish
up
and
get
to
you
a
copy
of
our
vice
chair.
A
I
don't
know
if
alejandra
said
this,
but
she
is
our
vice
chair
mm-hmm.
Thank
you
very
much
and
we
are
well
staffed
by
kimberly
richardson
and
shanika
hohenkirk.
So
we
get
all
our
good
support
and
they
do
all
kind
of
the
back
office
stuff,
so
the
they
produce
the
agenda
they
put
together
the
packet
they
schedule
the
meetings,
thank
you
kimberly
and
and
shanika.
A
So
please
call
me
or
any
of
the
commissioners
or
kimberly
or
schnick.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
the
business
of
the
commission,
how
we
do
our
business
for
the
purpose
of
meetings,
we
generally
follow
robert's
rules
of
order.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
in
our
bylaws
that
talks
about
how
we
conduct
meetings,
but
it's
really
mostly
robert's
rules
of
order.
We
are,
if
you
read
through
the
bylaws,
which
I
I
can
I
haven't
done
in
a
while.
A
We
are
kind
of
advisory
to
the
city
council.
We
have
advanced
a
few
things
up
to
the
city
council
for
city
council
votes
and
deliberation.
A
We
were
instrumental
last
year
in
taking
on
the
kind
of
the
first
step
in
the
reparations
initiative
in
evanston
and
deliberated
over
several
meetings
with
a
subcommittee
and
with
lots
of
community
input,
a
couple
community
meetings,
what
became
then
a
resolution
that
went
to
the
city
council
supporting
reparations?
A
We're
going
to
get
to
that
later
in
the
meeting
a
little
bit,
but
we're
starting
to
just
jump
in
with
development
of
some
community
indicators,
and
one
thing
that
we
have
been
working
on
is
the
environmental
justice
resolution,
which
is
also
on
our
agenda
tonight
for
consideration.
So
the
agendas
get
put
together
by
kind
of
me,
alejandra
kimberly
the
week
before
we
kind
of
work
on
it
the
friday
before
it
has
to
be
posted
on
the
tuesday
before
publicly
posted,
with
official
meeting
notice
on
the
tuesday
before
our
thursday
meetings.
We
are.
A
We
follow
the
rules
set
forth
in
the
illinois,
open
meetings,
act
which
prescribed
that
we
cannot
conduct
business,
formal
business
without
a
quorum,
but
we
also
cannot
meet
in
more
than
more
than
two
people.
I
think
an
official
subcommittee
of
this
body
is
three
people.
If
three
people
meet,
then
you
have
to
issue
a
formal
notice
to
do
that,
to
conduct
the
business
of
the
commission,
so
we're
very
careful
about
emails.
A
So
if
you
get
an
email,
don't
reply
all
if
it's
about
the
business
of
the
commission
you're
welcome
to
reply
all
if
it's
something
like.
What's
the
link
to
the
meeting
tonight
or
what's
the
password
to
the
meeting
that
kind
of
thing
so
which
we
obviously
had
to
do
tonight,
so
everything
that
we
do
also
is
subject
to
the
freedom
of
information
act.
So
everything
can
you
have
to
keep
it
for
a
certain
amount
of
time.
A
The
city
also
keeps
all
of
our
records
as
well,
and
then
I'm
trying
to
think
is
there
another
law
that
kind
of
governs
how
we
conduct
meetings.
Besides
the
open
meetings
act,
foia.
I
Boy,
it
doesn't,
but
I
would
just
tell
you
all:
you
will
be
getting
a
packet
in
the
mail
that
will
guide
you
through
a
training,
along
with
the
board
the
boards
and
commissions
rules
book
that
all
boards
and
commissions
are
followed.
That's
been
adopted
by
the
city
council,
so
those
will
be
coming
in
the
mail
and
then
you'll
have
to
do
a
training
for
tonight's
purposes.
I
You
have
been
seated,
however,
you
are
not
able
to
vote
this
meeting
only
because
until
you
complete
the
documents
that
will
be
sent
to
you,
then
that
will
allow
you
then
to
move
forward,
as
you
will
have
your
oath
completed.
I
So
I
just
want
to
make
you
aware
that
we
want
you
to
deliberate
with
us
and
definitely
provide
your
input.
Just
when
we
do
a
roll
call
vote
tonight.
You
will
not
be
able
to
participate,
but
moving
forward.
You
will
have
no
problem
doing.
A
So-
and
we
will
only
be
voting
tonight
on
the
minutes
from
our
last
meeting
and
the
environmental
justice
resolution,
so
that's
pretty
simple,
so
the
equity
and
empowerment
commission
is
one
of
probably
what
three
dozen
boards
commissions
and
committees,
volunteers,
populated
by
volunteers
from
the
community.
You
have
to
have
an
evanston
address.
A
You
have
to
live
in
evanston
to
serve
on
one
of
those
several
dozen
boards
commissions
and
committees
and
each
one
of
them
has
dedicated
staff
and
each
one
of
them
has
a
city
governmental
support
for
what
they
do
and-
and
so
this
is
just
one
of
the
many
we're
glad
to
have
you
with
this
one.
A
I
got
to
say
kimberly
and
carla
any
questions
so
far,
then
anything
that
pops
up
you've,
I'm
assuming
you've
both
served
on
boards
or
school
committees
or
in
your
communities
before
this
one's,
probably
not
much
different,
just
a
little,
a
little
more
focused
on
evanston
and
and
the
the
equity
framework.
A
So
the
first
order
of
business
is
to
approve
our
minutes
from
our
meeting
on
june
18th.
Our
first
zoom
virtual
meeting
was
on
june
18th.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
those
minutes
and
a
second,
I
move
approval.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
in
favor
say
I'm
going
to
do
a
roll
call.
Sorry,
oh
they're,.
A
Do
a
roll
call,
those
are
the
new
open
meetings
act
illinois
when
meetings
act
is
that
you
have
to
do
a
roll
call.
So
what
here's
a
question
kimberly?
I
wonder
if
you
could
check
on
this
at
my
job,
we've
been
doing
both
the
the
roll
call
for
members
present.
At
the
same
time,
we've
been
approving
minutes
so
we'll
say
jane
I'm
here
I
approve
the
minutes.
Can
we
do
it?
It's
fine,
something
like
that.
A
At
the
same
time,
all
right
we'll
think
about
that
for
the
next
meeting,
then
maybe
we
can
do
that
all
right,
so
you
want.
I
Me
to
call
the
roll
yes,
please,
okay,
yeah,
jane
grover
aye
alejandra
ambina
is
I
can
never
pronounce
it.
I'm
gonna
get
it
right,
eventually,
bonnie's.
I
probably
I
promise
you
sorry
present.
A
minutes
approve
the
minutes.
Yes,
okay,
dolores
holmes,
I
approve
the
minute
timothy
of
heart,
approved
max
weinberg.
A
I
I
don't
think
they
have
voting
privileges
yet
so
I
we've
got
five
votes
out
of
nine
anyway.
Okay,
so
that's
that.
Does
it
great
all
right?
Thank
you
very
much.
The
minutes
are
approved.
I
A
Done,
oh,
okay,
all
right.
The
next
item
is
public
comment
and
just
a
little
bit
of
background
for
our
new
members
is
the
we
put
public
comment
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting.
Anyone
who
wants
to
chime
in
with
public
comment
has
generally
three
minutes
a
three-minute
interval
to
offer
their
public
comment.
A
It's
all
recorded,
obviously,
and
will
be
then
reflected
in
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
as
as
well
looks
as
if
we
have
three
people
on
the
call
joan
is
here
observing
for
the
league
of
women
voters
of
evanston
doreen.
Did
you
want
to
offer
public
comment
tonight?
D
I
apologize
that
I,
I
usually
have
a
greater
preparation
than
coming
in
today
on
that
kind
of
speaks
to
the
question
of
adequate
notification
with
regard
to
full
participation
and
accessibility
of
information,
which
is
in
your
document,
and
I
think,
pushing
that
out
with
regard
to
timing
such
that
that,
in
the
past,
the
48
hours
is
something
that
is
has
always
been
a
race
for
people
who
are
involved
in
all
sorts
of
other
activities
as
well,
and
that
it
really
puts
it
puts
a
lot
of
pressure
on
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
that
work.
D
If
you're
in
the
middle
of
a
crisis
and
right
now,
there's
even
more
crises
going
on
in
lots
of
people's
lives
with
the
challenges
that
we
know
about.
So
I
would
strongly
suggest
waiting
for
the
next
meeting
and
getting
more
input
from
your
new
members
as
in
also
being
boarding
people
with
newer
aspects
or
newer
perspectives
and
ways
of
looking
at
this.
This
is
an
entirely
beautiful
great
document.
I
fully
support
it.
D
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
crucial,
though,
in
the
application
that
it's
done
right,
the
first
time
or
first
overall
espresso
is
going
to
end
up
in,
was
a
planning
and
development,
and
that's
where
enforcement
is
going
to
occur
and
the
enforcement
can
be
non-equitable,
as
we
know
so,
or
social
justice
issues
or
with
regard
to
zoning
with
regard
to
impermeable
surfaces
and
the
effects
that
they
might
have
on
a
neighbor
who
happens
to
be
lower
income
or
disadvantaged.
D
So
these
things
have
ramifications
that
if
we
bring
a
broader
community
and
because
of
covet
and
everything
else,
I
think
there's
been
kind
of
a
break
in
the
continuity
of
the
discussions
that
went
into
this,
which
were
substantial,
and
so
the
document
is
reflection
of
that.
In
terms
of
where
we
move
forward.
D
I
strongly
suggest
that
we
wait
until
the
next
meeting
to
move
forward
and
develop
more
of
an
outreach
to
have
others
involved
in
this
particular
end
of
the
process
where
they
may
now
see
a
piece
of
it
that
they
can
identify
with
the
specifics
are
good
they're
there.
They
weren't
there
before
in
terms
of
what
I
remember.
D
So
that's
a
good
thing,
but
again
it
comes
to
it
comes
at
a
price
in
terms
of
my
ability
to
give
you
more
information,
more
of
an
input
that
would
help
so
I'm
being
sort
of
general,
as
opposed
to
more
specific,
which
I
rather
be
in
terms
of
the
equity,
are
in
terms
of
the
structure.
D
You
have
the
collaboration
of
the
empowerment
of
the
environmental
board
and
the
equity
empowerment
commission,
and
then
you
have
a
third
factor
called
evanston
justice
group,
and
that
group
is
either
a
group
or
it's
it's
a
concept,
and
it's
not
clear
in
terms
of
how
it's
written,
I
remember
it
being
written
as
a
concept,
but
in
terms
of
participation,
it
looks
like
the
the
group,
so
I
think
that
needs
to
be
clarified
and
again,
I
think
really
and
truly
with
the
new
members
involved.
D
Think
about
whether
or
not
that
this
is
enough
time
for
people
to
what
the
usual
traditional
time
is,
which
I
know
it
is.
If
we
want
to
be
an
equity
empowerment
environment
and
give
people
extra
chances.
Sometimes
they
need
a
little
extra
help
or
a
little
extra
time.
It
would
be
useful
to
factor
that
in
which
it
has
not
been
before.
D
So
that's
it.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
dorian
very
much
jared
davis
jared
are
you
here.
Are
you
wanting
to
offer
public
comment
tonight.
M
Hey,
hey
alderman,
grover!
Thank
you.
No!
I
am
not.
I
am
here,
but
I
am
not
wanting
to
offer
public
comment.
I'm
just
here
observing,
but
thank
you
for
asking.
A
A
As
a
reminder,
this
is
in
your
packet,
a
looks
like
a
redlined
version
of
it
is
in
the
packet
and
kimberly
if
you
had
a
little
background
to
offer
about
the
status
of
this-
and
I
do
know
that
tim-
you
had
some
more
changes
and
edits
to
offer
tonight
and
we'll
try
to
do
that
live
so
that
we
can
approve
this
resolution
to
send
along
to
the
next
the
next
step
tonight.
That
would
be
great.
Yes,.
I
So
I
know
the
environment
board
met
either
earlier
last
week,
they've
met,
and
I
know
that,
speaking
to
kumar
jensen,
the
staff
liaison
he
did
not
unders
was
not
clear
on
the
process,
and
so
after
he
and
I
spoke,
we
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
improving
the
document
once
amended
per
the
discussion.
We
have
this
evening.
I
What
happens?
Typically
in
a
situation,
you
are
a
committee.
So
typically,
what
happens
is
that
staff
will
give
our
law
department
a
copy
of
the
language,
and
then
they
will
format
it
to
be
put
into
a
resolution
or
ordinance
so
that
it
will
then
travel
to
the
appropriate
committee
at
the
city
council
standing
committees,
this
particular
one
will
be
going
to
develop
planning
and
development
dude.
We
did
have
our
attorneys
review
this
along
the
way.
I
So,
even
though
what
you're
seeing
today
is
still
a
markup,
it
has
been
a
markup
that
has
been
reviewed
by
our
law
department.
I
What
they
requested
of
us
is
to
allow
for
us
to
make
any
final
edits
so
that
they
can
then
prepare
the
document
and
then
allow
for
that
to
go
then
to
the
pnd
at
this
time,
because
it
was
not
approved
at
the
environment
board
meeting.
What
we
will
do
is
I
will
submit
to
to
kumar
those
adjusted
that
adjusted
language
of
that
will
then
be
presented
to
them
on
august,
12th
or
13th.
I
can't
remember
which
day
I
think
it's
the
13th,
because
12
or
13.
I
I
Now,
if
you
want
to
hold
it,
I
mean
that's
your
that'll
be
pregnant
of
the
commission,
but
there's
nothing
technically
holding
us
from
opponent.
A
vote
for
tonight.
A
So
pnd
refers
to
the
planning
and
development
committee,
which
is
an
aldermanic
committee
kind
of
like
a
subcommittee
of
the
city
council,
and
this
would
go
to
the
planning
and
development
committee
because
of
its
subject
matter.
Thank
you
kimberly
very
much,
so
it
would
go
to
planning
and
development
to
I'm
assuming
in
september
then.
So
the
first
meeting
of
planning
and
development
in
september
correct.
F
I
don't
remember
when
we
did
other
things
that
went
to
they
had
to
move
on
either
to
human
services
or
wherever
it
went
that
the
final
document
came
from
us,
and
this
is
going
to
go
back
to
the
environmental
committee
and
also
to
the
legal
department.
So
I
don't
know
what
that
document
is
going
to
look
like
I'm
not
really
comfortable
with
that.
I
Sure
so
our
law
department
has
been
shrunk
to
literally
two
people,
so
I
mean,
if
we
want
to
cue
this,
then
I
can't
guarantee
that
you
know
it's
going
to
be
ready
by
september
to
go
to
pnd
so
in
this
situation,
they're
asking
for
us
to
provide
them
with
final
language.
I
Now,
if
the
environment
board
rejects
this
update
and
say
we
want
to
make
a
significant
amendment,
I
think
then
you
can
say
to
me,
or
you
can
direct
staff,
that
you
approve
a
condition
that
no
language
change.
If
the
language
does
change
to
some
point
of
where
it's
not
just
grammatical
or
there's
context
changes,
then
we
can
withhold
that
submission
to
the
law
department.
A
How
about
how
about
this?
How
about
if
we
get
as
far
as
we
can
tonight,
with
our
edits
and
and
amendments,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
if
the
environment
board
is
meeting
august,
12th
and
13th
that
we're
meeting
in
august
right
after
that,
so
we
would
have
their
newest
version.
A
I
Were
I
thought
so
too,
but
apparently
they're?
I
I
wasn't
at
the
meeting,
but
apparently
there
they
did
not
vote
on
it,
so
they
technically
have
not.
They
didn't
take
an
actual
vote,
and
so
tonight
I
thought
we
were
just
going
to
prove
what
was
amended.
But
then
there
was
some.
Then
it
was
a
last
minute.
I
We
suggested
a
request
to
make
some
additions
to
the
language
so
because
of
that
it
has
to
go
back
to
the
environment
board
because
we
will
be
changing
the
language
that
was
that
was,
you
know,
put
together
that
they
review
at
the
last
meeting
jim.
Can
you
shed.
G
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
so
when
we
all
met
for
the
joint
meeting
back
in
february,
we
had
both
the
environment
board
and
we,
as
environmental
justice,
equity
and
empowerment,
raised
a
variety
of
suggestions
proposed
edits,
the
first
time
that
any
of
us
have
seen
this
document,
whether
environment,
board
or
equity
and
empowerment
was
in
the
agenda
for
for
our
meeting
for
tonight.
So
this
seems
the
proper
process
for
us
to
see
the
the
changes,
the
edits
that
the
city
has
made
for
us
to
have
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
G
It's
appropriate
for
the
environment
board
to
have
the
same
opportunity
and
because
they're
not
meeting
until
august,
that's
when
they
will
have
an
opportunity
next
to
see
it,
and
I
I
share
your
concern
from
there
that
this
document
after
our
two,
the
commission
on
the
board,
has
a
look
at.
It
will
then
go
to
legal
and
then
pnd,
which
means
that
there
could
be
changes.
G
So
I
I'd
you
know,
I
I'm
not
sure
the
the
best
way
to
handle
that
whether
some
of
us
just
need
to
make
sure
we
attend
those
meetings
to
ensure
that
no
substantive
changes
take
place
or
whether
we
can
request
that
after
they
have
taken
a
look
at
them.
If
it
comes
back
to
us,
I
I
don't
know
what
the
proper
procedure
is
there,
but
that
that
is
a
concern
of
mine
as
well,
but
in
terms
of
the
environment
board
and
us.
F
Okay,
well,
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
the
process
that
jane
laid
out
in
terms
of
them
meeting
and
then
we'll
have
our
meeting
afterwards
in
in
august,
I'm
comfortable
with
that,
but
I'm
not
comfortable
with
it
us
voting
tonight
and
that's
the
end
of
it.
I'm
just
not.
You
know
afford
to
move
on
that,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
yeah.
I.
F
Know
I
understand,
I
understand
what
you
were
saying.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
that
final
say
on
it,
because
if
our
name
is
going
to
be
on
it,
then
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
on
what
it
isn't
it's.
It's
saying
what
we
wanted
to
say.
F
G
The
other
thing
that
you
can
say
about
is,
you
all
know
jerry
garl,
who
is
an
active
member
on
the
environment
board.
Who,
with
me,
is
on
environmental
justice
evanston
she,
along
with
the
rest
of
environmental
justice
evanson.
I
forwarded
the
resolution
to
the
to
eje
after
I
received
it
in
the
agenda.
G
She
and
others
have
had
a
close
look
at
it,
and
so
the
edits
that
I
will
be
recommending
tonight
are
coming
from
eje
and
so
jerry
will
not
be
bringing.
I
don't
expect
her
to
bring
any
substantive
additional
changes
to
the
environment
board
and
she
is
the
one
who,
in
the
environment
board,
will
look
to
on
this
this
language.
So
I
I
don't
expect
environment
board
to
make
substantive
changes
from
what
we
recommend
tonight.
A
G
Kimberly
with
that,
what
I
would
what
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
do
is
cut
and
paste.
So
I
was
planning
to
cut
and
paste
edits
into
chat
or
that's
fine
or
you
could
give
me
access
to
the
shared
document.
How.
I
I
I
I
L
L
If
you
could
give
us
any,
I
would
appreciate
a
little
bit
of
context
on,
like
kind
of
where
we
asked
to
do.
This
is
just
a
little
bit
of
like,
I
guess
how
we
got
to
this
point
of
you
know,
preparing
this
resolution
and
submitting
it.
G
Provide
a
little
background,
yeah,
the
the
the
early
impetus
for
for
this
resolution
arose
out
of
a
community
group
from
the
fifth
ward.
Alderman
holmes
would
have
been
part
of
those.
G
Many
of
those
early
conversations
that
began
with
the
waste
transfer
station
on
church
street,
close
to
the
high
school
located
on
the
boundary
between
the
fifth
and
the
second
wards,
and
a
recognition
that
that
waste
transfer
station
is
representative
of
environmental
injustice,
realities
that
we
see
throughout
evanston
and
around
the
country
of
the
intersection
of
race
and
poverty.
G
Being
the
chief
indicators
of
where
you
will
find
environmental
degradation
within
our
country
and
so
within
the
city
of
evanston.
The
waste
transfer
station,
and
there
have
been
other
dynamics
that
have
been
raised
since
then.
Recognizing
a
need
for
for
we
as
a
city
to
to
address
these
issues
proactively
and
retroactively
in
addressing
the
injustices.
G
So
there
was
a
there
was
a
community
group
that
had
agitated
around
the
waste
transfer
station
that
evolved
into
an
initiative
from
the
sustainability
director
with
the
city
at
the
time
who
called
together
an
environmental
justice
subcommittee
of
the
environment
board,
which
met
for
several
years,
which
then
morphed
into
a
subgroup
of
citizen
screener
evanston,
which
is
the
environmental
justice
evanston
group
that
I've
talked
about.
G
And
so
the
initial
mandate
for
this
resolution
came
from
the
city's
sustainability
director
for
four
or
five
years
ago,
and
we
have
been
working
hard
to
to
get
this
resolution
through.
Really
since
then.
And
so
what
you're
seeing
is
the
culmination
of
several
years
of
work.
F
May
I
add
something
to
that
jane
for
kimberly.
Could
you
comment?
You
said
you
are
a
food
for
a
resident
right.
F
Okay,
just
so
you
would
know,
the
waste
transfer
station
has
not
always
been
a
race
transfer
station
and
it
used
to
be
just
a
business
that,
where
they
just
hauled
garbage
and
and
the
site
at
daryl
and
church
was
one
of
many
garbage
dumps,
so
to
speak
in
evanston
like
james
park
and
also
where
robert
crown,
the
old
robber
crime,
is
located.
F
F
I
believe
it
was
that
that
company
was
sold
and
they
began
to
transfer
it
into
a
transfer
station
and
by
the
time
I
became
alderman
we
found
out
about
it
and
started
to
work
on
it
and
and
and
the
work
just
took
off
really
with
a
really
great
grassroots
community
group
that
had
just
kept
going
and
they
continued
to
meet.
After
all
these
years.
Several
of
them
are
still
original
members
like
janet
alexander
davis
and
tanya,
noble
people
like
that
who've
been
on
that
committee
from
the
very
beginning.
F
So
it
really
is
one
of
the.
I
think,
one
of
the
great
things
that
has
happened
on
the
fifth
ward
in
terms
of
the
community
trying
to
make
some
change
within
the
community
for
itself.
J
L
Resolution
also
applied
to
other
types
of
structures
that
just
generally
perpetuate
the
issue
of
environmental
injustice.
Like
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
other
place,
that's
further
down
on
church.
Is
there
like
an
air
quality
or
something
like?
Would
those
types
of
things
be
included
in
this
or.
G
Absolutely
so
I
I
I
framed
it
as
that
was
the
impetus,
but
the
resolution
which
aspires
to
move
toward
implementation
of
significant
changes
within
zoning
codes,
etc.
That
that
will
that
will
be
addressing
you
know,
city-wide
issues,
not
just
not
just
the
waste
transfer
station.
F
Are
you
referring
to
the
water
transfer
station
at
church
and
right
before
you
get
to
mccormick
my
house
yeah?
Okay,
I
live
right
across
the
street
from
that
that's
a
whole
different
issue,
because
that
was
not
an
environmental
issue.
F
It
was
an
environmental
issue
when
short
school
was
torn
down
because
there
was
so
much
asbestos
and
stuff
there,
but
that
that
community
group
or
com-
I
guess,
should
say
effort
had
to
deal
with
where
people
wanted
it
located
in
the
community
or
not.
So
that
was
a
a
different
issue
in
my
opinion
than
the
issue
of
the
environment
effect
on
the
community
of
church
and
daryl
and
and
ashland,
and
florence
and
emerson
where
the
transversation
affects.
H
Just
a
question
about
tone
just
so
like
as
I
look
through,
not
just
what's
on
the
screen,
but
just
scrolling
through
the
whole
document.
I
feel
like
we're
in
this.
We
are
explicitly
talking
about
race
and
about
the
effect
that
certain
decisions
have
had
specifically
on
the
black
community
in
evanston.
H
But
when
I
do
just
like
a
find
the
word
black,
it's
not
named
and
some
of
it,
I
guess
I'm
noticing
that
some
of
it
has
sometimes
like
an
all
lives
matter,
feel
to
it,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
space
in
this
to
be
more
explicit
about
really.
I
mean
it's
interesting
to
have
this
right.
On
top
of
the
history
of
redlining
and
black
and
the
the
evolution
of
black
evanston
in
the
board
packet.
H
Are
there
opportunities
in
here
to
be
more
explicit
instead
of
saying
vulnerable
populations
which
can
have
which
can
be
a
loaded
term?
Is
it?
Is
there
a
place
to
say
what
the
impact
has
been
on
black
families
in
evanston,
just
to
be
more
explosive.
G
So
I'd
I'd
be
happy
to
to
weigh
in
here
that
max.
This
is
something
that
you
you
may
recall
I
raised
at
our
february
meeting.
G
The
the
initial
language
that
eje
had
brought
to
the
city
was
much
stronger
on
on
these
points
that
had
the
the
language
had
changed
with
the
draft
that
we
saw
in
february.
That
was
part
of
the
feedback
that
we
had
offered
back
and
that
we
still
haven't
necessarily
seen
so
it.
G
It
may
be
helpful
for
me
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
some
of
the
proposed
edits
that
eje
would
like
to
see
based
on
some
of
our
early
work
and
and
our
comments
in
february
and
then
from
there
for
us
to
collectively
engage
with
that.
Would
that
be
helpful?
This
is
one
of
the
items
that
we
wanted
to
address.
A
If
I,
if
I
could
ask
him,
are
there
a
lot
of
edits,
I'm
just
wondering
about
the
process
here.
Should
you
could
we
go
through
each
one.
A
And
then
and
then
kind
of
approve
each
one,
or
would
you
like
us
to
just
have
a
conversation
and
we
can
move
from
one
to
the
next
unless
there's
any
objection
kind
of
thing,
so
I
think
that
may
be
the
best
way
to
handle
it
here.
Unless
there's
any
objection,
we'll
move
to
the
next
one,
we'll
move
to
the
next
one,
we'll
move
to
the
next
one
and
then
we
can
approve
it
as
a
whole.
G
G
So
under
section
one
below
the
whereases,
that
sentence
should
read.
This
resolution
establishes
the
city
of
evanston's
policy
for
environmental
justice
and
puts
in
motion
the
development
of
ordinances
to
ensure
okay.
G
A
G
Okay,
then,
moving
down
section
three.
G
G
G
In
line
six,
there
seems
to
be
a
hanging
quotation
mark
after
compliant
public
comments.
G
Consistent
with
it,
this
is,
this
is
not
a
major
item.
It
was
more
a
proposal,
so
kimberly
I'll,
follow
your
lead
on
whether
or
jane
whether
you.
I
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
public
participation
is
determined,
I'm
beginning
to
see
more
because
it's
about
bringing
people
into
the
process,
whereas
engagement
sometimes
can
be
more
passive,
and
so
it's
up
to
you,
I
mean
so
it's
a
more
active
word
when
you
say
participation
versus
engagement,
so
I'm
seeing
that
language
being
moved
to
participation
because
of
that
more
active
inclusion
of
individuals,
part
in
the
process
versus
engagement,
which
can
be
sometimes
more
passive,
but
I'm
being
very
nuancy.
So
I
don't
really
have.
G
I
would
be
happy
with
public
participation.
The
spirit
of
eje's
hopes
here
is
very
much
an
active
participation
so
jane
what.
A
Do
you
think,
from
my
perspective,
it
was
who's
the
actor
here
and
the
actor
here
is
the
city.
So
it's
the
city
engaging.
So
it's
a
public
engagement
policy
because
it's
putting
it
on
the
city
to
do
the
actions
of
engaging
meaningful
and
inclusive
public
engagement.
The
participating
is
from
the
other
side
of
it.
But
if
this
is
really
a
prescriptive
for
the
city
as
the
actor,
then
engagement
would
seem
to
me
to
be
the
right.
The
better
word.
A
So
outreach
is
even
is,
is
the
just
the
first
step
towards
engagement?
Outreach
is
the
is
considered
to
be.
This
is
would
be
identifying
audiences
getting
to
where
they
are.
Engagement
is
the
process
of
actually
involving
them,
so
public
involvement,
public
engagement
would
be
the
interchangeable
terms.
Outreach
is
a
component
of
public
engagement.
A
G
Okay,
so
public
engagement
to
be
consistent
throughout,
so
let
me
then
shift
to
a
more
substantive
proposal
and
this
this
gets
at
max's
question
and
this
language
itself
may
not
be
quite
right,
but
there's
a
this
is
drawing
on
some
initial
language
that
had
been
taken
out.
G
G
G
G
All
right,
so
I
just
added
an
another,
whereas
this
language
isn't
perfect,
perhaps,
but
it
it
names
a
bit
more
explicitly.
G
What
for
eje
is
important,
which
is
to
to
name
some
of
the
historical
dynamics
and
realities
and
to
give
a
bit
more
concreteness
particularity
to
it.
So
this
is
this,
is
this
would
be
a
more
than
the
first
substantive
proposal
that
this
be
just
be
added
back
in
from
what
had
been
taken
out.
B
H
I
also,
I
think,
yeah
I
mean
I'm
going
to
keep
pushing
that
like.
I
do
think
I
think
there's
a
richness
too
that
could
go
in
here,
like
I
think
we're
talking
about
black
and
brown
families.
I
think
we've
talked
about
black
and
brown
like
legacy
generations.
There's
there's
the
generational
piece
in
evanston.
I
think,
there's
a
richness,
I
think,
to
talk
about
black
people
in
evanston.
H
There's
a
there's,
a
richness
that
often
is
erased
with
some
of
the
people
who
can
move
afford
to
move
some
white
people
who
can
afford
to
move
in
and
make
these
sort
of
decisions
that
affect
the
community.
So
it's
it's
black
black
and
brown
communities
are
disproportionately
affected.
It's
I,
I'm
gonna
always
bring
back
kids
like
like
stunted
lower
access
for
children
to
have
the
same
sort
of
experiences
too
outside
in
nature
that
white
children
in
the
same
town
are
able
to
have.
H
I
Can
I
ask
a
question
if
I
I'm
sorry
I
was,
I
would
go,
go
ahead
kimberly.
Can
I
ask
for
a
wording,
change
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
makes
sense
to
say
generations
of
black
latinx
and
other
communities
of
color,
because
there's
there's
other
canadians
of
color
too-
that
are
not
being
identified
and.
F
I
was
going
to
say:
can
I
and
I
was
just
going
to
simply
say
that
if
you
go
back
to
generations
of
history,
it
really
was
just
black
understand
that
in
the
fifth
ward,
when
we
were
talking
about
that,
the
brown
community
have
is,
is
you
know
new
to
the
fifth
ward
and,
as
is
the
other
people
of
color
new
to
the
fifth
ward?
F
And
when
I
say
new,
I'm
talking
about
in
the
last
I'm
not
talking
when
you
go
back
and
look
at
the
history
that
you
know
is
talking
about.
It
really
was
just
some
really,
basically,
all
black
community,
so
matt
you're,
absolutely
right
on.
You
know
on
that
piece,
but
I
think
that
I
think
kim
you're
right
in
terms
of
saying
black
and
other
people
of
color.
K
Would
there-
and
I
don't
know
the
history,
so
I'm
gonna
just
shout
this
out,
but
would
there
also
be
a
recognition
of
the
native
american
community
because
I'm
like
I
said,
I'm
not
a
historian,
but
I'm
guessing
that
this
land
originally
was
yeah
a
native
american
community.
F
J
Yeah,
I
don't
there's
no
point
at
which
this
started.
So,
if
we're
going
to
name
the
communities
have
been
impacted,
I
don't
see
how
we
can
name
black
communities
without
naming
indigenous
communities
because
it
was
livable
to
them
like
in
the
framework
of
their
in
the
way
they
lived,
and
we
don't
want
to
negate
that
as
a
viable
living
community.
J
So
I
think
you
know
saying
black
and
brown,
I
think
is
fine,
but
I
do
agree
with
max's
point
about
for
this
conversation
to
exist
at
all
under
equity,
because
the
first
one
I
saw
environmental.
I
was
like.
Oh,
where
is
this
going?
But
the
fact
that
it's
being
included
under
an
in
a
conversation
about
equity?
We
can't
whitewash
it
and
not
talk
about
black
and
brown
communities.
B
J
Where
environmentalism
becomes
environmental
justice
is
rooted
in
the
disproportionate
effect
environmental
choices
has
had
on
communities
of
color.
So
I'm
not
necessarily
speaking
about
this
one.
You
know
that
garbage
disposal
place
that
happens
to
be
close
to
my
house
in
general.
We
can't
not
inundate
this
document
with
the
effect
of
black
and
brown
people,
because
that's
what
makes
it
equity
and
justice
oriented
as
opposed
to
just
environmentalism.
C
And
whereas
clauses
are
generally
part
of
the
statement
of
their
kind,
why
you
know
they're
they're
they're
the?
Why
clauses
so
they're
they're
they're
reciting
the
reasons
for
the
action
taken
by
the
city?
That's
where
you,
for
instance.
So
that's
why
a
paragraphs
that
describe
you
know
what
the
what
the
city
is
hoping
to
do,
what
the
city
has
ex
done
in
the
past
and
what
the
city
is
is
what
the
looking
forward
to.
But
that's
what?
Whereas
clauses
do
they?
I
So
should
we
put
in
the
language
that
we
used
when
we
did
the
commitment
to
instructural
racism
and
achieving
racial
equity?
We
made
a
rare
ass
clause
that
named
the
the
native
american
tribes
that
were
in
evanston
and
maybe
that
that
language
should
just
be
its
own,
whereas
just
to
acknowledge
it.
C
Yeah
I
was
thinking
that
kimberly
that
there
should
be
that
actually
towards
the
native
american
issue.
I
would
create
a
separate,
whereas
clause
for
that.
G
I
would
agree
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
this
body
is
prepared
to
draft
that
language
ourselves
tonight
or
whether
that
should
be
something.
I
This
is
the
original
language
that
was
in
the
the
language
that
was
in
the
resolution:
48
58,
r
58r19.
I
I
think
that
language,
if
we're
going
to
start
doing
it,
I
think
we
should
be
very
consistent
and
having
that
language
and
everything
that
we're
putting
in
great.
So
that
way
we
can
keep
having
that
documented,
because
before
we
can
talk
about
other
harms,
we
have
talked
about
the
original
harm
of
this
land.
C
Another
thing
I
I
would
say
sorry
to
interrupt
jane,
but
I
would
reorder
these
and
put
the
history,
whereas
is
first
and
then
and
then
place
the
whereases
that
are
looking
forward
in
in
a
later
order
of
some
sort.
I
Okay,
so
do
you
like
the
language
that
I
have
because
I
know
you
said
you
wanted
to
approve
it
before
we
move
on
yeah?
I
know
we
added
mention
of
regarding
the
the
individual,
maria
murray,
who
was
a
slave
purchase,
a
former
slave
purchase
by
the
event.
I
know
that's
in
there,
but
I
think
that
needs
to
be
in
the
language
I
don't
know,
maybe
not.
A
Could
we
could
we
have
a
warehouse
clause
that
simply
refers
to
the
the
previous
resolution,
whereas
on
this
date
the
city
council
approved
that
would.
I
L
K
So
I'm
just
saying
that,
like
from
a
very
practical
standpoint
like
we
know,
that's
been
approved,
so
I'm
just
thinking
that's
an
advantage
to
using
language.
That's
already
been
passed.
Legal
already
gone
through.
A
H
I
just
a
small
thing:
I
don't
it's
been
approved,
so
I
say
this
aware
of
what
was
just
said,
but
the
land
we
currently
know
as
evanson
originally
belonged
to.
I
think
ownership
is
even
that
notion
of
ownership
is
a
white
construct,
so
I
think
was
inhabited
by.
H
A
I
B
L
I
Are
we
good
with
the
other
rare
asses
before
we
get
to
that
one?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
second
line,
whereas
the
city
recognizes,
is
this
going
to
now
be?
The
second
is
that
okay.
C
I
would
put
jane
yes,
I
would
kimberly,
I
would
put
I'm
gonna
call
it
kim's
new,
whereas
I
would
put
it
at
second
and
I'm
open
to
hearing
what
people
say,
but
that's
sort
of
the
recitation
of
the
history.
C
I
So
to
kill
his
point
because
she
was
now
referencing
number
two
now
you're
referencing
technically
section
or
second,
whereas.
L
Right
the
question
that
I
had,
I
think
someone
brought
it
up
earlier.
I
do
think
it's
important
to
call
out,
because
you
know
the
the
specific
races
or
you
know,
communities
of
color,
but
I
guess
I'm
struggling
a
bit
with
the
point
that
dolores
made,
whereas
generations
she
sort
of,
was
describing
that
if
we
look
back
at
the
history
of
edison
generationally
we're
probably
looking
at
the
black
community
more
so
than
other
communities.
So
I
I
don't
mean
to
like
split
hairs,
but
I'm
just
wondering.
L
K
L
No
not
a
separate,
whereas
just
maybe
like
taking
the
sentence,
and
I
mean
I
could
suggest
an
edit,
but
I
need
to
think
about
it,
but
but
maybe
turning
it
into
two
sentences
or
just
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
as
separate,
whereas
I
do
feel
that
it
belongs
in
the
right
spot
here.
I
just
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
sort
of
be
inclusive
but
also
be
be
deliberate
about
or
intentional
about,
the
generational
impact
on
black
family
to
the
point
that
dolores
was
making
earlier.
L
C
What
do
you
think
of,
I
think
it
looks
like
tim's
head
edits
there.
I
I
L
Right,
I
think
that
that
should
cover
it.
Thank
you.
B
A
I
This
is
what
happened
when
you're
cold
writing
together
there
we
go.
Thank
you.
G
Right
thanks,
okay,
so
there
was
language
in
section
two
in
the
definition
of
public
participation
or
engagement
that
got
taken
out
that
we're
wondering
if
it
could
be
put
back
in
that
begins
with
in
taking
an
action
or
make
a
decision
that
gives
full
consideration
to
public
input
and
then
the
the
city
would
publicize
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
we're
wondering
if
it
may
have
been
taken
out,
because
it
was
seen
as
redundant
to
what's
in
section
five.
G
A
I
G
G
Yeah
moving
to
section
five,
I'm
I'm
quickly
looking
to
see
where
it
would
make
sense
to
include
in
this
existing.
A
G
Yeah,
so
that's
the
proposal.
I
think
we've
got
that
that's
and
that's
one
place
to
put
it.
C
I
I
am
concerned
tim
about
the
final
sentence
in
that
that
first
part
the
one
that
says
the
in
response.
C
The
city
would
give
due
consideration
to
all
public
comment
provided
by
involved
individuals
and
then
summarize,
and
respond
to
major
public
comments
and
make
its
best
effort
to
incorporate
their
ideas,
concerns
criticisms
into
the
final
decision
making
generally
the
city
does
not
summarize
and
respond
to
major
public
comments
in
a
written
form,
certainly
during
deliberations
of
the
city
council
that
occurs,
but
I'm
I
don't
that
that's
that's
an
that
would
be
if
that
were
in
writing
or
deep
sorry
getting
stumbling.
C
C
And
and
that's
part
of
the
deliberative
process
that
happens
throughout
the
city,
you
know
planning
process
as
well
as
at
the
council.
F
A
I
mean
I
mean
what
what
does
happen
at
the
very
least
is
that
public
comment
gets
recorded
right.
It's
made
a
matter
of
the
public
record
and
that's
the
the
best
you
can
do
for
that
kind
of
accountability
is
that
the
record
is
made
right.
A
I
So
it's
a
resolution,
not
an
ordinance,
so
there's
there's
a
difference
between
those
two.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
guidance,
so
the
development
of
a
public
engagement
police
should
take
policy
will
take
into
consideration
what
this
resolution
is
requesting
in
that
it's
not
a
resolution
is
not
the
same
as
an
ordinance
where
ordinances
then
become
technically
the
law
of
the
city
right.
A
So
in
in
my
dream
world
here
the
city
council
passes
this
resolution
and
says
all
right
staff.
Would
you
begin
developing
a
public
engagement
policy
we've
just
resolved
to
do
it
next
step
is
back
to
staff
right,
convene
a
committee
or
send
it
back
to
the
equity
empowerment
commission
to
recommend
a
public
engagement
policy
for
us.
We'd
stand
ready
to
do
that.
I
assume,
and
but
we've
already.
B
A
Right
so.
C
And
also
kumar
jensen
came
to
us.
I
think
it
was
to
us.
Maybe
I
haven't
missed
this
mapping.
You
know
he
did
committee
that,
yes,
he
came
to
us
and
described
a
community
engagement
policy
that
he's
developing,
that
I
think
my
understanding
is
it's
going
to
be,
I'm
hoping
that
it's
going
to
be
standardized
throughout
the
city
as
something
that
that
we
use
as
a
template
so
that
well
there's.
I
That
was
that
was
for
a
project,
so
I
can
definitely,
but
I
will
but
we're
all
using
this,
like
you
all
I'll,
say
this
equity
apartment,
commission,
environment
board
with
kumar
we're
all
using
the
same
guiding
principles
of
what
community
engagement
should
be.
It's
a
matter
of
how
do
we
then
make
sure
we're
embedding
equity
into
that
engagement
process
so
that
once
it's
rolled
out
and
it's
we're
training
our
staff?
How
to
do
the
actual
engagement
of
community
parks
and
community
engagement?
I
There's
some
consistency,
so
kumar
and
I
are
constantly
in
contact
with
each
other
about
this.
So
that's
the
good
thing
and
I
hope
once
we
have
something
that's
flushed
out,
we
can,
then
you
know,
share
it
with
the
environment
board,
who
are
also
doing
a
lot
of
community
engagement
activities
to
get
their.
A
I
Yes,
yes-
and
I
know
that
we
are
also
working
on
this
environmental
justice
mapping
tomorrow
and
I
discussed
that
yesterday
so.
I
A
L
A
G
A
For
that
quick
screen.
L
E
I
G
Yeah,
just
just
one
final
edit,
then
under
section
six,
adding
the
add
and
addressing
existing
conditions
and
then
clarifying
how
this
tool
will
we,
we
hope,
will
be
used.
So
those
those
are
all
of
of
of
the
edits.
A
All
right
any
thoughts,
comments,
objections.
A
Approvals
all
right-
we've
made
a
bunch
of
edits
to
this
document.
The
resolution
both
yeah.
I
Kimberly,
what
do
you
need?
I'm
gonna
move
this
up
if
it's
okay
with
everyone,
so
I
wanna
honor
max's
comments
in
the
chat
that
he
referred
to
the
first
question.
I
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
aren't
what
he's
asking
us
to
consider
and
it's
regarding
the
first
paragraph
in
the
acknowledgement
of
maria
murray
and
so
what
you're
asking
max.
If
you
want
to
espound
I'll,
let
you
speak
for
yourself.
H
I'm
just
trying
to
humanize
maria
murray,
so
the
the
sentence
at
the
end
says
maria
murray
was
a
former
slave
purchased
by
the
vain
family.
H
So
I
alderman
holmes
and
I
were
going
back
and
forth
and
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
read
up
on
maria
murray
on
online,
but
maria
murray,
it
seems,
was
a
15
year
old,
girl
or
woman
who
was
enslaved
in
the
vain
family.
Yes
paid
to
have
her
come
work
as
a
domestic,
so
I
feel
like
that's
a
that's
a
pretty
rich
story
that
also
speaks
to
power
race
class.
H
So
if
there's
a
way
to
humanize
maria
murray
a
little
bit
in
there,
I
think
we
want
to
talk
about
her
as
a
as
a
you
know.
Nowadays
I
still
I
think,
of
a
15
year
old
as
a
child,
but
I
maybe
for
her
sake.
She
was
she
was
working
was
was
a
woman
or
a
child
a
15
year
old?
H
H
H
H
Are
there
more
opportunities
in
here
just
to
be
very
explicit
with
bringing
and
the
reason
why
I
said,
outreach
before
making
intentional
outreach
to
black
communities
to
build
trust,
to
have
their
voice
at
the
table
to
deeply
understand
what
the
ramifications
are
going
to
be
from
the
black
community's
perspective,
so
that
we're
not
making
white
folks
aren't
making
decisions
about,
but
so
that
we're
actually
listening
and
that
they're
at
the
table
making
the
decisions?
H
I
just
I
just
it's-
it
is
about
this
moment
in
time.
It
is
about
the
uprising
and
it's
about
putting
this
in
writing
and
saying
we're
going
to
come.
This
is
gonna,
be
something
that
guides
decisions
we
make,
and
it
says
right
here:
black
folks,
black
people,
black
people,
black
people.
We
cannot
keep
making
decisions
without
their
voices
here,
and
so
that's
why
I
keep
reading
this,
and
I
I
I'm
saying
that
saying
that
I
might
be.
G
Time
max,
if
you've
got,
I
mean
I'm
confident
that
eje
is
would
be
amenable
to
to
particularizing
this
language
in
that
direction.
So.
F
That's
my
understanding,
but
we
can
get
much
more
clarification
from
that
from
dino's
work
and
I
I
can't
remember
who's
in
this
piece
at
night.
I
know
he
mentions
her
in
here.
I
just
didn't
I
I
can't
I
don't
know
how
to
pull
it
up
while
I'm
looking
at
it
I'm
starting
on
my
phone,
but
I
can't.
H
I
mean
I
mean
what
like
is
there
a
way
to
be
historically
accurate,
first
woman
of
african
descent,
maria
murray,
a
15
year
old
maria
murray
forced
to
come
to
evanston
as
a
domestic
in
1855
and
you're?
Right,
I
don't
know
the
the
story,
but
when
I
read
purchase
even
the
purchased
word
even
rings.
You
know.
F
F
But
you
know
that's
that's
the
fact
and
I'm
mad
max
you
you're,
making
my
heart
smile
by
you're
being
awoke
to
these
issues
of
of
being
sensitive
to
these
issues,
and
I
really
appreciate
that.
But
that's
the
fact
she
was
brought
here
to
work
and
that's.
It
was
just
enslaving
again,
but
it
was
probably
pennies
from
where
she
was
getting
paid.
Who
knows,
but
I
know
dino
has
lots
of
history
on
that
right.
H
F
H
Yeah
in
the
part
that
I
can
see
on
the
screen,
I
think
the
opportunities
tim
are
like
the
city
of
edmondson
seeks
to
support
the
delivery
of
an
equitable
share
of
environmental
benefits
and
communities
assets
in
all
neighborhoods.
I
mean
that
can
say
prioritizing
historically
back
or
I
just
in
all
of
those
opportunities.
Historically,
black
neighborhoods
or
open
spaces,
trees,
natural
areas,
community
gardens
the
lakefront
it
I'm
not
sure.
H
Yeah,
I
don't
know,
there's
some
things
in
here.
Like
you
know,
we've
talked
before
about
the
lakefront
being
restrictive,
so
historically,
historically
restricted
places
like
the
lakefront.
J
I
guess
I'd
also
just
like
to
echo
that
I
appreciate
everything
that
max
is
saying,
and
it
may
not
be
easy
to
kind
of
filter
that
in
here,
but
I
also
want
us
to
keep
in
mind.
How
do
we
communicate
the
intentionality
of
those
things
in
this
document
to
the
city
council
because
we
could
pepper
it
out
all
the
right
words,
but
if
they're
just
words-
and
that's
not
like
really
the
intention-
and
the
intention
is
not
there
by
the
council
later
on,
you
know
it's
an
exercise
in
futility
right
and
it's
a
lie.
J
So
as
much
as
I
agree
that
that
needs
to
be
intentioned,
it
needs
to
be
intentioned
not
just
the
words
in
this
document,
so
just
kind
of
giving
life
to
that.
C
Yeah
well
and
I'll
say
as
as
a
both
a
member
of
this
commission
and
a
member
of
the
city
council.
The
critical
aspect
of
this
is
that
the
council
passes
this
and
then
directs
staff
to
to
implement
the
necessary
changes
in
our
ordinance.
To
make
this
a
reality
in
the
process
of
the
city,
I
mean
you're
you're,
absolutely
right.
This
doesn't
do
this
only
states
an
attention.
It
doesn't
then
cause
the
intention
to
be
converted
into
action
unless
the
city
council
directs
that.
B
K
J
And
I'd
put
that
even
a
bit
further
and
say
that
systemically
we
need
to
be
looking
at
what
are
the
ways
people
are
allowed
to
be
part
of
whether
that's
employment
or
the
elected
positions
and
how
those
are
structurally
set
up
that
make
it
possibly
to
be
truly
diverse
in
who
ends
up
in
those
positions.
Just
to
the
point
of
all
the
people
who
get
paid,
fifteen
thousand
dollars
and
insurance
who's
going
to
end
up
being
able
to
take
on
those
positions
when
people
need
full-time
salaries.
J
So
I'd
look
at
even
structurally.
What
are
the
systems
we
have
set
up
to
make
that
always
twisted
in
one
direction?.
A
That's
a
whole
nother
conversation
carla
indeed,
just
like
like
it's,
how
we,
how
we
broaden
the
pipeline
of
people
who
can
run
for
office
and
make
the
sacrifice
to
do
it.
G
So
I'm
I'm
wondering
about
how
to
how
to
close
this
engagement,
while
taking
while
honoring
max's
concerns.
One
proposal
max
would
be
that
you
spend
some
more
time
with
this
document
between
now
and
the
environment
board
meeting
and
that
you
find
a
way
to
communicate.
If
you
communicate
those
recommended
changes
to
me
or
you
can
send
them
directly
to
jerry
garl
or
someone
else
with
the
environment
board
that
those
be
then
considered
for
that
meeting.
G
I'm
happy
for
us
to
continue
finding
each
of
those
phrases
clauses
to
put
them
in
tonight,
or
we
may
be
at
the
point
where
we're
kind
of
done
with
this
and
we
want
to
move
on.
But
that
would
allow
you
a
chance
to
add
some
specificity.
I
So
here's
what
I
would
recommend,
because
this
was
happened
tim.
I
appreciate
ej
the
committee
going
through
that
process,
but
to
make
sure
that
this
actually
gets
done
and
it's
effective.
What
maybe
needs
to
happen
is
tim
max
myself
or
what
would
be
myself
because
tomorrow's
going
on
town,
we
need
to
probably
schedule
time
to
meet.
Let's
clean
this
up.
So
that
way
the
language
that's
been
incorporated
is
what
the
environment
board
are
going
to
review
it.
I
So
they
don't
have
to
go
the
same
process
because
if
they
come
in
with
recommendations,
kumar
will
not
be
at
that
meeting.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
he
has
an
opportunity
to
look
at
this
as
well.
So
maybe
we
just
need
to
just
circle
up
and
just
find
a
time
that
we
can
all
meet
and
just
hammer
through
this,
and
then
you
know,
let's
give
it
to
them.
A
A
Then?
I
think
our
next
step.
Thank
you,
alejandra
for
using
your
whatever.
That
is
called
reactions.
The
reaction
and
thank
you,
your
reaction
in
zoom,
then
with
that
direction.
I
think
that
it's
it's.
This
is
in
good
shape.
A
The
next
step
will
be
as
kimberly
richardson
suggested,
which
is
to
convene
the
smaller
group
to
add
this
kind
of
language,
and
then
it
will
go
with
this
language
to
the
environment
board
to
their
meeting
on
august,
12th
or
13th
comes
back
to
us
on
august
20th
at
our
meeting,
and
then
it
advances
to
the
city
council
committee,
anytime,.
I
I
Just
for
clarification,
I've
been
going
back
and
forth
because
I
don't
know,
as
I
say,
that
we
say
the
fifth
war,
but
I
do
recognize
that
there's
generations
of
black
and
estonians
that
did
not
just
live
in
the
fifth
ward,
but
also
other
wars
that
were
not
north
on
other
side
of
the
tracks.
Do
you
want
to
be
explicit
in
saying
fifth
ward,
or
do
you
just
want
to
say
black
evanstonians.
A
Well,
if
you
read
dino's
paper,
he
makes
clear
that
black
and
stonings
once
lived
everywhere
in
evanston,
and
it
was
only
through
the
housing
segregation,
discriminatory
housing
laws
that
they
found
themselves
living,
mostly
in
one
neighborhood,
which
was
the
fifth
ward
yeah,
because.
I
I
A
A
So
tim,
thank
you
for
all
of
your
your
edits
and
your
contributions
to
this
max
thanks.
So
much
for
adding
your
perspective
as
well
looking
forward
to
the
next
version
of
this,
and
can
we
just
promise
each
other
that
we'll
get
this
done
at
our
next
meeting
august
20th
is
that
it
gets
the
equity,
empowerment,
stamp
of
approval
or
not,
but
of
course,
you're
welcome
to
vote
how
you
want
on
it,
but
I'd
really
love
to
see
this
move
off
our
agenda
to
somebody
else's
will.
I
I
A
Moving
on
our
agenda,
then,
discussion
of
a
community
engagement
survey
to
staff,
so
we
started
thinking
about
it
as
we
were
working
on
a
community
public
engagement
policy
that
we
were
going
to
be
drafting,
which
would
be
essentially
like
a
policy
guiding
all
city
staff
in
their
public
engagement
activities
that
we
really
didn't
have
a
good
idea
of
what
exactly
city
staff
are
involved
in
in
public
engagement.
So
what
is
the
as
best?
A
We
can
guess
the
full
dimension
of
all
the
different
ways
in
which
city
staff
reaches
out
to
engages
residents
so
shenika
and
I
drafted
drafted
a
survey
that
we
sent
to
all
city
staff.
This
is
in
your
packet
as
well
the
questions
in
the
survey.
One
question
we
didn't
ask
that
we
forgot
my
fault
by
the
way
is
to
ask
what
department
they
worked
in
the
people
who
answered
the
survey
and
because
it
closed
just
yesterday,
I
think
it
was
out
for
10
days.
We
don't.
A
We
have
results,
we
can
share
with
you,
but
we
have
been
able
to
summarize
it.
But
shanique
are
you
still
here?
Where
are
you
yeah.
E
Okay,
so
yeah
we,
we
didn't
have
a
chance
to
summarize
everything
in
a
document,
but
jane
was
kind
enough
that
we
did
receive
from
the
google
forms
and
kind
of
give
us
a
little
synopsis
of
what
those
results
were.
So
only
about
38
city
staff
answered
the
questions
and
just
based
off
of
how
they
answered
them.
We
can
tell
a
lot
of
them
were
coming
from
the
public
service
domain
like
outreach,
maybe
or
general
assistance,
just
based
off
of
how
they
went
about
answering
the
questions.
E
So
I
have
a
document
I
would
share
it
on
here,
but
I
don't
want
to
confuse
anyone,
so
I'm
just
going
to
read
from
my
phone.
So
forgive
me
if
you
look
we're
looking
down,
but
so,
as
jane
mentioned,
we
did
forget
to
ask
about
which
department.
E
However,
what
we
did
find
is
that
over
70
of
those
who
answer
the
question
does
engage
a
lot
with
the
public.
What
else
we
also
figured?
We
also
came
up
with
the
fact
that
about
a
large
portion
of
them,
like
about
45
of
them,
have
to
by
ordinance
and
federal
law,
have
to
engage
and
follow
certain
guidance
when
it
comes
to
public
engagement.
55
are
not
required.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
them
are
doing
it
because
they
have
to
correct
they're,
sending
out
notices
for
hey,
there's
a
zoning
ordinance,
a
variation
on
the
zoning,
and
you
have
to
give
notice
to
people
who
live
within
a
certain
number
of
feet
of
a
residence
kind
of
thing.
So
a
lot
of
it
was
required.
E
Yeah
of
those
38
participants,
we
also
saw
we
had
a
scale
and,
as
you
guys
guys
can
see
on
the
question
part
of
the
packet
one
to
five,
five
being
the
highest.
E
A
lot
of
the
public
engagement
was
in
the
middle,
like
they
feel,
like
the
satisfaction
and
the
success
rate
of
their
public
engagement
is
either
average
or
you
know
moderate.
It
could
have
room
for
potential
growth,
it
maybe
it
doesn't,
but
on
both
of
those
questions,
it
was
a
middle
middle
ground
like
somewhere
between
a
three
or
a
two
with
their
satisfaction
when
it
comes
to
public
engagement.
E
Another
major
part
of
it
was
the
type
of
audience
that
our
participants
are
dealing
with
in
a
range
from
adults
to
seniors,
to
low-income
households,
to
what
else
was
on
there
homeless
and
just
different
areas,
not
too
much
of
the
youth.
I
mean
there
were
questions
on
that
which
led
us
to
believe
that.
E
Yes,
there
are
some
outreach
teams
who
answered
these
surveys,
but
a
lot
has
engaged
around
adults
and
homeless
and
the
I'm
not
sure
what
ward
we
didn't
ask
that
question
as
well,
but
it
was
really
interesting
to
see
that
a
lot
of
them
had
commentaries
about
they.
We
can
do
better
in
our
engagement
and
how
we
go
about
doing
better
in
our
public
engagement
from
a
staff
perspective.
But
again
it
all
depends.
M
E
What
department
you're
in
and
what
kind
of
work
you're
doing
and
how
you're
trying
to
get
around
some
of
it
is
maybe
lack
of
resources
or
not
having
enough
staff
members
to
do
the
work
right.
Everyone's
feeling
overwhelmed
how
this,
how
the
city
is
reacting
to
the
type
of
events
or
the
type
of
things
that
we're
doing
to
progress
the
city
of
evanston.
So
while
we
weren't
able
to
get
all
the
details,
this
was
really
this
said
a
lot
and
jane.
You
can
jump
in
at
anything.
F
I
You
have
to
so
I'm
going
to
be
honest
with
you.
Yes,
the
city
has
over
700
employees,
but
probably
less
than
200.
Those
employees
are
administrative
staff.
A
lot
of
them
are
working
in
public
works,
who
are
not
are
labor
or
public
safety,
so
you
have
to
take
account
for
that.
Also,
you
have
to
take
you
also,
I
think,
looking
at
the
result,
I
was
sitting
here
thinking
to
myself.
I
That's
not
a
good
number
either
and
I'm
thinking,
maybe
you
have
to
go
back
out,
because
my
concern
is,
I
think
there
needs
to
be
more
intentionality
why
this
is
important
to
have
them
fill
out
with
us
being
work
with
us
having
a
hybrid
right
now,
a
majority
of
our
staff,
who
are
administrative
staff
working
from
home.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
that
disconnect
too.
So
if
you
want,
we
can
go
and
extend
the
survey
out
in
and
try
to
increase
those
numbers
so
that
we
can
have
a
more
representative
response.
F
My
only
my
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
this
is
because-
and
I
understand
the
dispersion
of
the
staff
of
the
city
very
well,
and
even
if
we're
talking
about
public
works
and
we're
talking
about
the
who
picks
up
recycling,
those
people
have
interaction
with
the
public.
Just
like.
F
I
I
mean,
if
I
say
something
to
him
and
I've
asked
him
two
or
three
times
not
to
leave
it
in
the
alley.
Then
my
next
call
is
to
his
boss.
So
I'm
just
simply
saying
the
interaction
is
there
and
we
need
to
know
how
they
feel
about
that
and
if
they,
you
know,
you
have
some
people
who
don't
need
to
be
working
with
the
public,
and
that
is
a
public
job,
just
as
sure
as
you're
working
at
the
library
and
staffing
out
a
car
for
someone.
I
I
So
I
guess,
if
the
intention
is
for
it
to
be
broader
engagement,
then
there
needs
to
be
retooling
of
the
survey,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
we
can
still
increase
the
numbers
of
participants
that,
if
the
number,
if
35
to
you
all,
feels
a
little
bit
inadequate,
which
it
is
then
we
need
to
do
it
differently.
So
it
may
have
to
be
more
of
a
email,
personal
email
to
individuals
to
have
them
complete
it
more
directly.
So
I
mean
there's
a
different
approaches
to
this.
I
I
think
10
days
is
not
a
lot
of
time
when
you're
talking
about
the
fourth
of
july,
in
the
middle
of
vacation
time
too,
where
people
may
not
have
been
aware
if
they
weren't
getting
their
city
emails
or
reviewing.
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
do
a
different
approach
and
come
back
with
some
additional
responses.
A
Well,
just
if
I
could
jump
in
there
were
some
major
flaws
in
the
survey
itself,
which
I'm
primarily
responsible
for
having
written.
Like
the
first
question,
didn't
allow
you
to
say:
do
you
do
public
engagement?
If
no,
then
you
don't
have
to
bother
with
the
rest
of
the
survey
that
kind
of
thing,
so
we
might
have
gotten
different
responses
if
people
could
opt
out
having
answered
no
to
just
the
first
question
and
as
kimberly
said,
it's
a
tough
time.
It
was
a
tough
time
when
we
put
the
survey
out
there.
A
In
addition,
the
fact
that
what
do
we
mean
by
public
engagement
now
so
we're
in
this
weird
hybrid
time
of
public
engagement,
it's
hard
to
know,
were
we
talking
about
public
engagement,
the
way
we
used
to
do
it
before
you
know
middle
of
march
or
public
engagement.
The
way
we're
doing
it
now
so.
C
Also
jane,
can
I
just
I
mean
I
think
dolores
and
I
are
probably
thinking
public
engagement
is
anytime
you
any
time
a
public,
a
city
of
evanston
employee
talks
to
a
member
of
the
public,
so
that
could
be
a
member
of
the
public.
Talking
to
the
forestry
team,
saying,
why
are
you
taking
the
tree
down?
You
know
so
I
mean,
and
I
know
they
get,
that
question
asked
a
lot.
I
tried
we
tried.
A
To
capture
that
in
the
survey,
but
there
it
didn't
capture
all
of
the
public
engagement,
that's
right.
C
And
I
think
engagement
I
mean
as
we're
talking
about
it
here.
Engagement
is
sort
of
a
formal
process
and
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
we
also
with
the
survey
capture
the
informal
process
of
public
contact.
You
know
so
I
mean
you
know,
that's
a
whole
that
that's
a
that's
widening
it
considerably,
but
you
know
for
a
lot
of
people
their
their
regular
government
contact
is
their
whoever
picks
up
their
garbage
they're
standing.
They
have
a
con,
they
have
a
conversation.
They
know
we
kind
of.
A
Tried
to
distinguish
between
the
provision
of
services
and
the
act
of
public
engagement,
so
the
provision
of
services
being
something
different.
That
is
a
public
facing
that
is
interacting
with
the
public,
but
we
were
trying
to
get
at
all
the
ways
in
which
the
city
is
affirmatively,
going
out
to
seek
public
input
or
provide
public
information,
that's
distinct
from
providing
services.
A
E
And
also
guys,
I
think
this
too,
while
the
results
may
not
have
been
a
lot
as
in
38
responses.
However,
this
is
a
good
place
for
us
to
start
to
really
begin
to
think
about.
A
E
Like
you
all
stated,
what
is
public
engagement?
What
does
that
look
like
as
we're
transforming,
and
then
we
jane-
and
I
too
started
to
think
about
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
weren't
thinking
about
prior
to
doing
the
survey,
so
I
do
feel
like
this
is
a
good
start.
I
don't
want
to
get
discouraged
by
the
low
numbers
of
responses,
but
just
take
this
and
remodel
it
and
to
make
it
where
it's
more.
E
B
Can
I
also
share
that
you
know
I
at
times
struggled
because
I
wondered:
how
is
it
that
staff
some
of
the
questions
made
some
assumptions
that
I
didn't
know
like
there
was
a
question
about:
how
does
how
does
staff
identify
constituents
most
affected
by
the
project?
I
was
like
what
are
the
parameters?
What
are
the
values
when
they
say
they're
successful?
What
does
that
mean
right?
Because
every
if
there
are
not
some
set
parameters
or
some
set
values?
B
What
I
may
think
is
successful:
if
it's
not
based
on
some,
you
know
bench,
you
know
benchmark
or
milestone
or
value.
My
success
may
not
be
success
for
somebody
else,
so
there
was
a
lot
here.
I
think
that
needed
some
more
parameters
around
them
and
to
me
it's
just
a
reminder
of.
We
really
need
to
get
a
public
engagement
policy,
so
we
can
have
parameters
and
and
do.
A
Some
training
do
some
training
and
publication.
So
a
couple
of
things
that
jumped
out
to
me
in
this
is
that
the
primary
activities
that
the
city
does
at
least
on
those
who
answered
is
public
information,
just
pushing
information
out
there,
not
the
give
and
take
the
back
and
forth
of
soliciting
public
feedback,
and
the
other
thing
is
to
identify
their
target
audiences.
A
The
city
staff
who
respond
to
this
primarily
rely
on
people.
They
already
know
so.
Existing
engagement
participants,
sign-in
lists
their
own
personal
contact
lists
and
surveys,
rather
than
looking
further
the
outreach
again
max
looking
further
to
find
people
who
would
be
affected
by
or
interested
in,
a
policy
or
proposal
or
a
project
or
something.
So
it's
it's.
A
The
reliance
on
the
people
that
you
already
know,
but
there
was
also
recognition
in
this
about
lack
of
representation
and
the
people
who
participate
in
their
activities,
so
I'll
send
I'll
send
kind
of
my
summary
of
the
findings
of
this
first
in
preliminary
survey
and
what
it
means.
But
it's
pretty
clear
that,
with
more
time,
staff
and
budget,
the
city
staff
who
answered
this
felt
that
they
could
do
a
much
better
job
in
engaging
evanston
residents
and
constituents.
A
A
We
I
mean
even
having
looked
through
the
the
survey
responses
here.
I
already
started
drafting
the
next
one
fine-tuning
de-jargoning
it
adding
the
by
the
way
which
department
do
you
work
in
changing
how
some
of
the
questions
work.
I
was
thinking
it
would
happen
a
year
from
now
not
wanting
to
over
survey
people.
I
If
we're
trying
to
build
a
better
policy
and
incorporate
our
staff
voices
in
that
policy,
we're
we
have
to
be
able
to
get
more
feedback,
and
so
the
survey
has
to
be
retooled
a
little
bit
so
that
it's
more
inclusive
to
more
different
voices
than
those
who
are
administrative
staff.
Then
that
makes
sense
yeah.
A
I
C
No,
no,
no,
I
just
would
say
I
mean
I
would
be
interested
if
as
if
we
did
as
as
delores
suggested
and
at
least
get
the
directors
of
the
200
administrative
staffs,
administrative
staff
and
said
answer
this
so
that
you
know
we
don't
just
get
38.
I
mean
I
recognize
the
other
600
or
so
employees
they're
public,
facing
their
public
facing,
but
in
lots
of
a
lot,
a
wide
variety
of
ways
that
aren't
necessarily
required
by
statute.
C
But
it
is
interesting
to
me
to
hear
back
here
in
this
survey
from
what
chanika
was
just
saying
is
that
they
had
sort
of
a
middling
view
of
how
effective
they
were.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
from
more
of
the
administrative
staff.
In
terms
of
of
I
mean
these
are
the
people
who
are
required
by
law
to
reach
out
to
people.
So
what
is
it
that
they're
experiencing
and
what?
What
are
their
comments
on
ways
that
we
can
improve
this?
Given
our
parameters
of
budget
time
and
staff
yeah.
A
I
Okay,
that
doesn't
mean
anything,
it's
it's
so
close.
We
can
always
reopen
it.
I
mean
yeah.
No
one
knows
trust
me
around
here.
One
other
thing
I
can
say,
and
I
will
definitely
and
shanika
you
and
I
can
work
on
some
messaging
to
department
heads,
but
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
common
theme
here
and
something
that
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
internally.
I
I
We
can't
train
right
now,
for
you
know
anything
significantly
and
I
understand
we're
in
a
very
tight
budget
situation,
but
our
culture
here
has
been
like
most
bureaucratic
governments
under
these
type
of
you
know,
systems
that
we
all
know
are
are
racialized,
and
that
is
you
have
to
you
know,
submit
document
fill
out
the
form
post
a
meeting,
there's
no
training
on
how
to
do
community
engagement.
I
I
mean
going
to
grad
school
in
this
profession
to
be
a
city
manager.
They
never
taught
us
how
to
do
community
engagement
and
it
and
even
to
engage
our
own
staff.
I
mean
you
should
see
the
response
that
we
had
at
the
city
manager's
review,
which
I
know
doreen
was
at
a
conversation
and
the
emails
that
I
got
back
from
the
community
was
thank
you.
I
I
was
heard
because
they're
not
used
to
staff
like
they're
used
to
staff
just
talking
and
giving
them
information,
they're,
not
used
to
staff
being
quiet
and
just
taking
notes
and
just
gathering
the
information
that
they're,
so
that's
a
whole
different
way.
Culturally,
that
we
haven't
been
taught
and
do-
and
I
know
that's
what
a
lot
of
staff
members
want
from
the
annual
conversations
I've
had,
but
that
takes
training
which
takes
money
and
and
that's
something
I'm
working
on,
so
that
we
can
back
this
policy
up
with
some
adequate
training.
A
Well,
let's
make
sure
we
hold
on
to
those
thoughts
as
we,
I
hope,
end
up,
building
a
public
engagement
policy
for
the
city,
but
again
the
the
reasoning
behind
the
doing
a
survey
is
that
it's
hard
to
impose
a
policy
on
city
staff
without
really
understanding
how
they
engage
the
public,
what
their
constraints
are
and
what
they
hope
for
how
they
feel
they
can
do
it
better.
A
So
I
think
it
was
a
useful
exercise,
so
the
next
step
would
be
then
to
to
let's
tinker
with
some
of
the
survey
questions
and
then
figure
out
a
way.
We
do
kimberly
and
shanika
to
send
it
back
out
and
see
if
we
can
improve
the
response
rate
and
we
will
include
the
what
department
do
you
work
in
question?
A
The
the
survey
was
anonymized,
which
I
think
is
that
just
making
sure
staff
know
that
they
can
answer
candidly.
A
F
Want
to
continue
to
emphasize
the
department
heads
can
we
only
because
when
we
start
to
look
at
really
looking
at
equity,
we're
going
to
be
look?
They
are
the
first
ones
you're
going
to
look
at
to
see
what's
happening
with
equity
within
their
departments,
and
I
I
just
think
that
they
ought
to
be
engaged
from
the
very
beginning
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
their
staffs
are
hearing
this
and
seeing
this
and
getting
involved
in
it.
F
And
so
that's
why
I'm
suggesting
that
method,
jane
of
getting
the
information
out,
not
just
an
email
sent
to
the
staff
person,
but
the
staffers
will
know,
there's
going
to
be
some
accountability
back
through
their
environment
heads.
You
know
by
getting
that
back
in.
So
that's
just
another
way
of
doing
it.
Not
only
that's
just
a
suggestion.
A
Thank
you,
dolores,
so
kimberly
and
shanika
I'll
follow
up
with
you
this
week.
We
could
probably
do
this
before
our
august
meeting
too.
I'm
thinking
all
right,
great
anything
else
on
the
survey.
Anything
else
that
you
would
want
asked
in
the
survey,
if
you
think
of
anything,
send
it
our
way
in
the
next
week.
So
we
can
turn
it
around
next
on
the
agenda,
communications,
jane.
D
I
Well,
so
I
am
working
on
finalizing
a
actual
equity
plan,
moving
work
plan
moving
forward
for
our
internal
staff.
What
the
hope
will
be
at
the
next
equity
apartment
commission.
I
will
be
able
to
share
with
you
that
plan
so
that
you
all
will
be
aware
of
how
this
is
going
to
travel
with
you
all.
I
This
is
going
to
take
some
time
to
get
us
grounded
because
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
of
work
that
has
to
do
internally
with
how
our
staff
is
currently
structured.
So
something
that
I
will
inform
you
about
is
that
we
need
to
create
an
internal
equity
and
empowerment
commission.
I
will
not
call
an
equity
power
commission,
but
reviewing
your
equity,
reviewing
the
equity
empowerment
commission's
ordinance.
I
I
realized
that
that
ordinance
was
really
structured.
If
I
read
the
way,
I
read
it,
a
lot
of
that
asked
of
you
all
were
really
things
that
should
have
been
asked
of
us
internally
as
staff
to
be
thinking
about
and
working
on,
and
that
hadn't
happened.
We
relied
and
we
continue
to
do
this.
We
rely
on
a
staff
person
and
say:
okay,
we
have
a
person
who's
dealing
with
equity.
We
no
longer
have
to
do
the
work
we
just
have
to.
You
know,
get
there
okay
and
then
they
tell
us
everything's.
I
Okay,
then
then
we're
doing
equity
and
and
that's
not
fair
to
anyone-
that's
not
fair
to
any
staff,
and
so
we
are
looking
to
form
a
real
equity
committee
internally.
I
That
will
become
a
two-year
cohort
commitment
by
staff
to
do
not
just
training
but
also
to
begin
the
process
of
learning
how
to
incorporate
equity
in
their
work
and
also
training
our
department
heads
because
here's
the
thing,
ms
holmes,
you
know
our
department
heads
if
you
look
at
all
that's
who's
in
those
roles,
don't
know
really
what
equity
is
defined,
as
they
don't
understand
what
racism
means
and
and
not
the
personal
individual
racism
I'm
just
talking
about
structural.
I
I
I
agree,
but
we
also
need
to
provide
them
with
the
tools,
and
so
that
is
something
that
I'm
truly
ready
to
move
forward
with,
because
I'm
tired
talking
about
it
and
our
department
heads
just
listening
to
the
conversations
that
we've
had
without
getting
into
any
detail,
because
I
I
did
not
ask
them,
you
know
it
was
not.
I
I
You
know
I
have,
because
you
have
a
certain
number
of
employees
in
your
department
that
doesn't
mean
that
you're
doing
practices
equitable.
You
know,
because
you
are
doing
things
that
you
may
you
know
use
the
word.
Equity
doesn't
mean
you're,
actually
thinking
through
things
equity
what's
equitable
is
we
have
a
situation
right
now
where
we've
been
talking
through
how
to
deal
with
undocumented
residents
and
how
we
are
funding
and
how
we
are
funding
our
programs
for
ga
how
you
think
about
equity
is
okay.
I
We
recognize
that
there's
a
population
that
has
a
barrier
which
is
they
don't
have
citizenship
and
we
recognize
the
systems
that
we
have
require
them
to
have
citizenship.
So
how
do
we
eliminate
a
barrier
that
can
then
allow
everyone
to
have
the
same
access
but
now
you're
allowing
those
barriers
not
to
be
there
for
anyone
who
may
be
a
assistant,
that's
thinking
about
things
through
equity
lines?
It's
not
about.
You
know
who's
serving
the
fifth
floor,
only
you
know,
and
so
you
know
I
just
I
want
you
all
to
know.
I
I
understand
where
you
I
know
tim
left
where
tim
is
coming
from.
I
recognize
that
this,
you
know
we're
working
this
way
through,
but
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
where
best
you
all
fit
in
this
conversation,
and
how
do
you
hold
us
as
the
city
accountable,
because
we
need
to
have
accountability
partner
and
it's
not
going
to
be
the
city
council,
because
unfortunately,
the
city
council,
too,
haven't
done
the
work
yet
to
recognize
equity.
So
I
really
need
this
group
to.
We
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
have.
I
You
know
have
this
conversations,
I
know
many
of
you
have
had
these
conversations
several
times
and
probably
it's
hard
to
have
these
conversations,
but
in
order
for
us
to
all
be
using
the
same
language,
we
have
new
members
and
we'll
have
a
new
member
coming
on
that'll
be
important.
We
need
to
revisit
the
ordinance
that
is
your
foundation
of
work
because
reviewing
that
ordinance,
I'm
just
sitting
there
just
like
what
does
this
mean?
I
I
don't
understand
so
I
just
share
that
so
I've
been
working.
I've
shared
this
with
both
chairs,
jane
and
alejandra,
so
they
both
know
that
you
know
this
is
something
that
has
been
bothering
me
a
little
bit
trying
to
figure
out
how
best
to
situate
you
all
so
moving
forward.
You
really
have
a
place
and
that
you're
just
not
the
go-to
whenever
there's
a
race
issue,
so
I
just
want
you
to
be
aware
of
that,
and
I
thank
you
for
the
patience
in
the
last
six
months.
I
I
know
like
with
the
you
know,
with
the
departure
of
pat.
You
know
that
really
kind
of
put
a
lot
of
things
on
hold
and
you
know,
and
then
colbert
happened
and
other
things
start
happening,
and
so
I
just
want.
You
know
that.
Yes,
I
have
a
lot
of
things
on
my
plate,
but
this
is
the
number
one
priority
on
my
plate
and
there's
other
staff
that
can
handle
covet.
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
a
job
and
really
putting
words
behind
equity
and
not
just
using
it
as
a
buzzword.
So
that's
my
minute
of
renting
and
apologies-
I've
been
here
since
seven
o'clock
this
morning,
so
I
may
be
a
little
testy
right
now.
It's
time
for
me
to
go
to
bed
so.
I
With
that
being
said,
we
have
the
strong.
The
reparation
subcommittee
will
be
meeting
again
on
the
24th,
I
believe
of
july,
and
you
all
have
in
your
packet
of
gino's
episode.
I
just
want
to
say
it
wasn't
just
dino
that
put
this
together.
We
also
had
jenny
from
the
evanston
found
evanston
historic,
historic
history
center.
We,
I
asked
the
two
of
them,
along
with
peter
gavin
larry
gavin
to
we.
I
We
had
asked
them
to
come
sit
and
staff
and
which
included
our
law
department
and
our
sarah
flack
from
our
community
development,
as
well
as
melissa,
klotz
who's,
a
part
of
our
zoning
division.
We
all
met
with
them
and
said
we
need
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
start
talking
about
evidence?
I
We
have
a
lot
of
conversations,
but
we
don't
have
documentation
so
over
the
last
month
we
have
been
coming
together
and
having
these
meetings
and
working
collaborating
with
the
city
as
well
as
with
these
other
institutions,
to
come
to
be
able
to
put
this
document
together,
and
so
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
those
individuals
as
well,
because
this
is
it's
going
to
require
a
lot
of
people
involved
and
they
really
have
done
a
homeless
job.
The
actual
document
right
now
is
over
40,
some
pages.
I
So
just
imagine
when
we
get
to
a
final
draft,
it's
going
to
be
a
really
good,
rich
document
that
we
will
like
would
want
to
probably
publish
as
something
that
will
be
our
guiding
principle
and
sharing,
and
I'm
also
looking
at
that
as
a
great
curriculum
for
our
staff,
as
you
need
to
learn
the
history.
So
you
understand
why
things
are
the
way
they
are
because
we
can't
make
change.
I
If
you
don't
know
your
history
right,
that's
what
I
was
just
told
as
a
kid,
so
that
document
is
going
to
be
used
beyond
just
reparations.
I
want
to
incorporate
that
into
our
our
city
operations.
Yes,.
A
And
to
add
a
little
bit
to
that,
other
woman,
russ
simmons
has
begun
conversations
with
the
metropolitan
planning
council
which
published
two
years
ago
now
a
report
called
the
cost
of
segregation
in
mostly
chicago-based
and
and
she
has
made
inquiries
with
mpc
metropolitan
planning
council
to
ask
if
there's
possibility
of
commissioning
a
cost
of
segregation
study
for
evanston.
B
E
A
One
would
be
the
cost
of
segregation
to
our
black
community
in
evanston
for
our
historic
black
community
ediston,
the
other
would
be
the
cost
of
segregation
in
evanston
to
the
community
as
a
whole
and
and
how
much
it
has
cost
us
over
the
years
to
have
segregated
housing
and
discriminatory
city
policies
and
programs,
and
so
she
started
that
conversation,
I'm
part
of
it,
because
I
know
the
folks
at
mpc
and
we're
looking
to
see
if
there's
some
funding
that
could
be
rustled
up
to
help
do
this.
A
So
that
would
be
another
way
of
making
the
case,
in
addition
to
all
the
historical
work
that
dino
and
and
what's
her
name
again,
I
don't-
I
don't
know
the
one
from
the
evanston
history
center
have
done,
but
another
way
of
building
the
case
make
the
business
case
essentially
for
reparations
kind
of
the
the
data
to
show.
So
a
lot
of
good
stuff
happening
I'll.
Let
you
know
if
I
learn
any
more
on
that
front
too.
I
loved,
reading
dinos
and
what's
her
name
again,.
A
I
A
Okay,
great,
so
thank
you.
Kimberly
yeah.
L
A
All
you're
doing
and
and
for
carrying
us
through
these
last
six
months
through
covid
through
everything
else
on
the
we
don't
really
have
a
report
from
the
eviston
truths
working
group.
A
I
don't
think
we've
met
we'll
keep
it
on
the
agenda
and
maybe
in
between
now
and
our
next
meeting,
we've
got
a
lot
going
on
anything
else.
Let's
finish
strong
all
right.
B
Let
me
just
say
that
I
have
not
reached
out
to
eileen,
because
she
was
our
community
partner
from
the
ywca
that
was
gonna
really
that
subcommittee
the
truth
subcommittee
so
I'll
reach
out
to
her,
because
we
haven't
met
okay.
A
And
then
thank
you
alejandra
and
then
the
last
thing
just
to
skip
back
backwards.
Just
a
little
is
kimberly
mentioned
a
retreat,
maybe
over
the
next
month
before
our
next
meeting
alejandra
and
kimberly,
and
I
can
figure
out
a
way
to
give
form
and
shape
to
a
retreat.
But
what
we
would
want
the
operative
question
to
be,
and
how
could
we
facilitate
it
virtually
if
that
was
what
we
wanted
to
do
aiming
for
sometime?
This
fall
right,
kimberly,
yeah,
okay,
so
more
later,
at
the
next
meeting
anything
else,
commissioners.
G
G
I
I
want
to
see
this
thing
through,
so
if,
if
we
had
been
done
tonight
tonight
would
have
been
my
last,
but
I
think
since
we've
got
one
more
action
I
may,
even
if
you
could
put
it
at
the
front
of
the
agenda,
I
may
come
in
vote
and
and
excuse
myself,
but
yeah
I'll
I'll,
be
here
next
month.
C
A
F
A
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
glad
to
have
you
carl
and
kimberly
yeah
welcome,
welcome,
thank
you
for
your
contribution
and
now
that
we've
seen
you,
I
hope,
to
see
you
in
person
masked,
of
course
around
town.
So,
thank
you.
So
much
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
moved
so
move
back
in
a
second,
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you
all
very
much
good
night.
Everyone.
Thank
you
all.
Thank
you
jane.
Thank
you
kimberly.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
kimberly
and
shanika.
I
Yeah
yeah
sure,
let
me
go
ahead
and
let
me
let
me
in
the
meeting
recording.