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From YouTube: HCDC Consolidated Plan Overview Webinar
Description
City staff goes over the existing 2020-2024 HUD Consolidated Plan for Evanston.
A
A
Pursuant
to
a
determination
that
in-person
meetings
of
our
boards
and
commissions
and
committees
are
not
practical
or
prudent
due
to
the
ongoing
coronavirus,
and
so
therefore
we
may
attend
by
other
means
such
as
our
current
virtual
set
up
here.
So
our
main,
I
don't
do
we
have
any
members
of
the
public.
B
So
there
is
a
probably
common
time
if
the
person
that
is
there
would
like
to
provide
some
comment.
They
are
welcome
to
raise
their
hand
with
a
feature
at
the
bottom
of
their
screen,
to
provide
some
comment
and
we'll
be
unmuting
them,
and
then
I'm
also
going
to
double
check
that
we
haven't
received
any
recent
written
comment
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
C
If
you
ever
need
a
something
to
you
know,
if
you're
an
insomniac,
I
can
recommend
it
there's
a
lot
of
good
information,
but
it
can
be
a
little
bit
hard
to
slog
through,
and
so
what
we
really
wanted
to
do
is
take
you
through
how
it
is.
You
know
the
structure
of
it.
What
kind
of
information
is
contained
in
it?
C
C
Otherwise,
we
can't
put
any
of
our
costs
back
to
the
start
of
our
fiscal
year
once
we
get
our
hud
grants,
which
historically,
we
get
generally
in
about
august
of
the
year
of
our
fiscal
year.
So
you
know
at
least
the
federal
government
passed
a
continuing
resolution,
so
we
didn't
have
a
partial
shutdown
on
the
30th
on
october
1st.
So
I
look
at
that
as
optimistic
try
to
retain
some
level
of
optimism,
but
it
does
even
though
it
seems
odd
to
do
this
percentage
of
funding.
C
These
programs
and
services
that
are
really
vital
to
the
well-being
of
our
city
then
a
reminder,
the
category
that
usually
got
the
most
time
devoted
to
it
by
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee
was
the
public
services
which
are
basically
human
services
or
social
services.
That
portion
has
gone
to
our
social
services
committee,
but
this
committee
has
home
and
affordable
housing
fund
and
other
things
that
are
really
this.
C
This
committee
oversees
the
built
environment
and
economic
development,
so
it's
the
housing,
housing
projects
and
programs,
regardless
of
funding
source,
the
public
facilities
and
infrastructure,
which
is
a
c
to
b
g
thing
and
then
also
economic
development
that,
even
though
we
don't
normally
allocate
a
lot
of
money,
for
it
is
going
to
be
from
our
cdbg,
largely
because
of
other
city
resources
is
something
that
will
be
under
this
committee.
So
I'm
going
to
have
marian
start
taking
us
through
a
series
of
slides.
It
will
be
top
line
joanne.
C
So
yeah,
you
know
they're,
I'm
I'm
sure
you
know
we've
got,
I
think
about
30
slides,
but
we
will
go
at
a
pace
that
where
it
makes
sense,
we
don't
want
you
to
feel
you
can't
ask
questions
you
can,
but
you
know
I
will
admit
this
is
top
line
there.
You
know
because
a
lot
of
stuff
in
this
stuff
is
pretty
wonky.
It's
like.
Why
does
that
happen?
Oh,
never
mind,
but
we
can
explain
some
of
that
to
it
and
will
on
an
ongoing
basis.
B
B
Yep
great,
thank
you,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
the
consolidated
plan
from
hud
today
and,
like
sarah
mentioned,
this
is
a
168-page
document
that
we're
attempting
to
summarize
in
under
30
minutes
and
about
30
slides.
So
not
everything
is
in
here.
You
are
welcome
to
review
the
full
document,
as
well
as
other
documents
on
the
city's
website.
B
B
D
Ask
one
sorry:
can
I
ask
one
question
about
that
yeah.
This
is
my
only
question
about
the
whole
thing.
I
promise
I
won't
interrupt
a
lot,
but
I
actually
did
look
at
the
plan
before
this
meeting
and
I
noticed
that
in
the
summary
and
maybe
you're
if
you're
gonna
get
there.
Please
tell
me,
but
it
talked
about
how
there's
a
different
there's
been
a
demographic
shift.
Are
you
gonna
go
over
that?
Oh.
B
Yeah
definitely
and
feel
free
to
interrupt,
because
this
is
meant
to
be
an
overview
for
you
guys
to
understand.
What's
going
to
plan
so
there's
question
and
clarification,
it's
helpful.
It's
likely
helpful
for
somebody
else
as
well.
Okay,
all
right!
So
no
problem
with
interruptions
at
all.
So
one
key
point
around
the
data
sources
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
for
evanston
this.
The
consolated
plan
is
using
this
data,
and
this
data
is
the
acs.
B
So
you
can
see
here
as
an
example
between
2014
and
2020.
We
had
big
shifts
in
between
the
sense
of
block
groups
that
were
considered
majority
low,
moderate
income
in
2014
versus
2020.,
and
here's
an
area
right
here,
8092.04
which
in
2014
was
considered
11
low,
moderate
income
and
in
2020,
was
considered
61.
B
C
C
C
But
some
communities
have
done
a
better
job
of
integrating
their
low
and
moderate
income
residents
in
within
their
overall
community,
and
so
they
become
what
are
known
as
exception
communities
and
and
and
the
data
that
are
used
is
they
they
put
all
of
the
census
block
groups
in
rank
order.
And
you
know
you
look
at
the
top
quartile
and
they
do
a
bunch
of
calculations.
So
in
the
twenty
14
through
19.
C
I
mean
a
15
through
19,
sorry,
con
plan.
We
were
an
exception
community
and
our
level
of
our
percentage
of
low
mod
residents
that
made
it
an
area
benefit
was
45.13,
which
happens
to
be
one
of
the
census
block
groups.
That
is
actually
because
that
was
the
lowest
one
that
was
used
in
that
calculation.
C
But
with
the
data
we
got
for
the
2020
through
2024
con
plan
that
had
changed
dramatically.
So
we
were
back
up
to
being
our
low
mod
threshold
was
back
up
to
50,
51
or
higher,
and
I
got
to
tell
you.
The
areas
just
haven't
changed
that
much
so
when
we
say
the
data
can
be
really
wonky
it
that
that's
another
way
of
exemplifying
it.
B
Okay,
so
with
that
said,
one
of
the
main
category
of
the
comp
plan
is
the
needs
assessment
and
trying
to
understand
better
our
community
and
when
we
do
the
needs
assessment.
We're
looking
at
several
categories
of
topics,
we're
looking
at
housing
needs,
homeless
needs,
non-homeless,
special
needs
and
non-housing
community
development
needs.
So
we're
going
to
go
over
a
few
of
the
highlights
or
key
points
that
were
discussed
in
the
con
plan.
As
far
as
that
for
the
housing
needs
assessment
highlights
really.
The
key
point
is
things
that
are
not
necessarily
going
to
surprise
you.
B
B
We're
also
seeing
a
much
higher
proportion
of
household
that
have
one
of
the
four
housing
problems
which,
for
us
tends
to
mean
cause
burden
that
are
black
or
african
american
households,
and
then
there's
also
what
we
saw
was
a
high
growth
in
the
hispanic
population.
We
see
a
big
jump
between
2000
and
2010
census
and
they're
predominantly
low
moderate
income,
so
that
those
were
some
of
the
key
highlights.
D
C
B
We
know
that
they
were
predominantly
black
or
american,
but
what
we
also
kind
of
need
to
take
into
account
is
the
fact
that
it
doesn't
show
in
that
data
all
the
families
that
are
unstably
housed
that
are
couchsurfing
that
are
living
with
another
friend
or
family
or
doubled
up,
and
that
that's
kind
of
a
hidden
need.
That's
not
necessarily
shown
in
the
data,
and
that's.
C
C
Usually
in
the
last
week
of
january,
it
is
one
day
and
a
whole
lot
of
volunteers
get
out
in
all
parts
of
suburban
cook
county
and
try
to
count
homeless.
People
there's
also
account
from
the
from
the
shelters,
in
other
words,
there's
the
sheltered
homeless
count
and
there's
the
unsheltered
homeless
count
and
most
of
us
in
the
shall
we
say,
parts
of
the
country
that
have
cold
weather.
C
You
know,
homeless.
People
are
not
stupid,
most
of
them,
if
they
don't
have
shelter,
are
riding
the
l
they're
going
out
to
the
airports
and
stuff
like
that.
So
this
is
an
ongoing
challenge.
We
all
believe
that
our
homeless
population
is
under
counted
are
unsheltered
homeless
and
the
other
thing
is:
when
you
have
geography
the
size
of
cook
county,
you
don't
you
can't
even
get
to
a
lot
of
places.
Plus
there
are
safety
issues.
C
Well,
the
point
in
time
count
takes
place
in
the
evening
and
at
night,
usually
from
starting
about
eight
o'clock
until
you
know
midnight,
because
that's
when
they
figure
people
are
going
to
be
in
the
place
that
they're
going
to
sleep
but
they're
also
safety
issues.
So
you
know
we
really
have
to
take
any
information
from
the
homeless
point
in
time.
C
B
We
have
about
nine
percent
of
the
population
age,
five,
plus
that
we're
reporting
a
disability
and
about
almost
half
of
the
65
plus
population
in
our
community
that
live
with
a
disability
and
the
needs
that
were
identified
were
essentially
permanent,
permanent
supportive
housing
to
address
homeless
or
the
needs
of
the
homeless,
and
then
a
focus
on
rental
housing
for
lower
income
households
with
additional
support
services
needed
as
well.
So
that
was
one
some
of
the
key
highlights
around
that
section
around
the
community
development
needs.
B
This
is
one
of
the
section
that
is
really
worked
on,
not
necessarily
from
data
from
hud,
but
most
likely
from
information
from
our
community
engagement
process,
as
well
as
understanding
the
needs
there
within
the
community
and
you'll
get
some
more
information
around
the
community
engagement
and
how
those
identify
needs
were
found
out,
but
essentially
for
a
public
facility,
we're
looking
at
affordable
housing
facilities
for
homeless
persons,
parks
and
rec
facilities,
street
valley,
paving
and
then
some
in
under
the
public
improvement.
We're
also
looking
around
sidewalks
flood
drainage
and
sustainable
infrastructure.
B
B
B
We
only
had
14
of
renters
that
were
in
three
bedroom
or
more
housing,
despite
knowing
that
there's
a
higher
demand
and
as
far
as
subsidized
housing,
we
have
about
700
plus
housing
units
that
have
been
developed
with
public
funds
like
federal
state
or
local
funds,
and
we
know
that
we
have
a
housing
authority
county
wait
list,
that's
much
higher
with
close
to
2000
people.
There.
D
C
That's
really
complicated
lauren,
that
is
so.
The
housing
authority
has
its
list.
This
is
their
list
for
both
their
public
housing
units,
actually
many
of
which
are
now
project-based
section
eight,
but
you
know
they're
the
the
units
they
own
and
manage
yeah
and
also
their
housing
choice,
voucher
list.
C
B
There
was
still
kind
of
values
that
were
down
due
to
the
tucson
crash,
but
the
affordability
was
still
an
issue
with
the
medium
household
income
being
a
little
bit
below
70
southern
at
the
time
and
really
what
that
meant
is
that
they
could
only
afford
a
house
that
was
about
260
thousand
and
our
average
single
family
detached
home
was
440
thousand
so
big
gap.
As
we
know,
conditions
have
only
deepened
both
for
renters
and
for
affordability
of
ownership.
Since
then,
so
this
is
still
well.
The
numbers
are
outdated.
D
B
B
On
top
of
that,
we
have
rent
increases,
they're
very
high,
the
other
items
that
we
see
in
our
community.
We
have
high
property
costs
and
we
also
have
large
large
lot
of
single-family
areas.
What
that
means
is
that,
essentially,
we
have
concentration
of
affordable
housing
in
specific,
lower
cost
area,
and
it
makes
it
harder
to
have
affordable
housing
throughout
the
community
and
then
there's
occupancy
standards
for
rentals
as
well,
which
precludes
people
with
non-traditional
family
or
non-traditional
households
to
be
able
to
lower
their
cost,
whether
it's
co-housing
or
house
sharing,
or
anything
like
that.
B
So
for
the
community
survey,
a
big
part
of
the
consulated
plan
is
to
do
community
engagement.
Now
this
was
done
through
inputs
from
resident
stakeholders
through
an
online
community
survey
as
well
as
paper.
It
was
performed
in
29
summer
of
2019
in
preparation
for
the
writing
of
the
consulated
plan,
and
it
was
extensive
outreach
through
digital
email,
social
media
websites,
but
as
well
through
volunteers
at
local
advocates,
non-profits
and
specific
outreach
in
some
of
our
location
or
communities
that
we
knew
we
needed
to
get
more
input
from.
B
C
Really
important
part
of
just
wanted
to
comment
of
getting
this.
This
much
more
diverse
response
from
much
more
diverse
group
was
we
engaged
the
cradle
to
career
advocate
group
to
actually
go
into
the
community
and
talk
to
people.
We
sent
them
out
with
ipads
that
they
could
do
the
surveys
electronically.
C
They
quickly
came
back
and
said
people
are
going.
This
is
way
too
long.
I
can't
do
this
electronically.
I
can
try
doing
it
on
paper,
but
they
would
literally
work
to
get,
and
we
got
over
200
surv
surveys
through
that
group
that
I
don't
think
we
would
have
gotten
simply
through
our
normal
processes
and
that,
I
think,
has
really
our
surveys
are
never
statistically
projectable,
because
we
can't
control
them
to
that
extent
and
they're
not
designed
as
such,
but
I
believe
they
really.
C
B
Okay,
so
some
of
the
key
highlights
from
that
survey
are
going
to
be
shown
in
the
next
few
slides.
So
here
were
we
were
asking
what
the
community
see
as
far
as
priority
and
affordable
housing
was
shown
as
being
one
of
the
top
priority
of
the
for
the
respondents,
so
that
was
definitely
reflecting
what
we
were
seeing
as
far
as
the
what
we're
seeing
happening
in
the
community
as
well.
That's
not
very
surprising,
but
at
least
confirms
the
need
for
this.
B
B
I
don't
use
the
service,
but
I'm
in
need
of
that
service
and
in
red
is.
I
need
it
and
I'm
currently
using
it,
and
so
the
highlight
here
is
that,
as
far
as
the
highest
unmet
needs-
meaning
they
needed,
but
they
don't
have
access
to
it
right
now.
Housing
assistance,
financial
literacy
and
skilled
trade
learning
skill
trade
were
the
top
unmet
needs.
B
And
then,
as
far
as
housing
needs
specifically,
they
were.
The
respondents
were
asked
to
provide
some
priority
as
far
as
different
services
and
here
on
this
chart,
you're,
seeing
what
was
provided
as
a
high
or
medium
priority.
According
to
them,
it's
a
fairly
even
slide
in
chart.
But
what
we're
seeing
is
that
rental,
housing
assistance
on
the
left
and
tenant
landlord
services
on
the
right
were
the
top
responses.
B
C
A
A
D
C
Right,
yeah
and-
and
they
won't
be
ever
directly
comparable
because
I
mean
one
of
the
things
is
we
even
though
we
try
to
do
surveys
that
are
going
to
get
us
information?
We
are
not
professional
survey
creators,
so
you
know
there
are
times
that
we
look
at
it
and
go
oh
gosh.
Maybe
that
contributed
to
some
challenges
and
how
we
interpret
things.
It's
always
a
lovely
challenge.
B
B
C
We
are
also
focusing
on
rental
because,
especially
when
you
look
at
the
income
limits
of
our
federal
funding,
both
home
and
cdbg,
are
restricted
to
households
with
incomes
that
do
not
exceed
80
percent
of
the
area
median
many
years
ago,
well,
yeah
quite
a
few
years
ago,
probably
about
almost
10.
We
had
down
payment
assistance
for
home
buyers
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
with
that
80
percent
income
restrict
level.
C
We
could
not
qualify
a
whole
lot
of
people
for
homes
that
they
were
then
able
to
buy.
So
we
all
know
we
need
to
address
home
ownership,
but
we're
not
finding
our
federal
funding
as
the
most
effective
way
to
do
that.
So
we
don't
want
people
to
think
that
there
isn't
a
need
for
it,
but
we
also
can't
really
do
much
with
our
federal
funding
right
now.
C
And
also
esg,
which
provides
some
of
those
services.
The
street
outreach
rapid
rehousing,
are
that's
under
the
social
services
committee.
Tenant-Based
rental
assistance
is
under
this
committee
because
that
uses
home
funds.
So
we
couldn't
figure
out
a
way
to
keep
it
divided
completely
cleanly
between
the
two
committees
and
to
divide
one
grant
in
half
either
way
was
really
a
nightmare.
B
C
We
work
obviously
very
closely
with
laura
biggs
and
her
group
on
this,
because
they
have
to
evaluate
what
the
condition
of
our
infrastructure
and
then
look
at
that
income
eligibility
map
and
try
to
figure
out
how
we
can
match
those
needs
up
and
effectively
use
cdbg
alley.
Paving
is
an
example
where
cdbg
can
be
very
important,
though
usually
in
evanston
alleys
are
paved
through.
C
The
50
50
cost
sharing
program,
and
we
have
you
know
you
can
wind
up
with
your
alley
special
assessment
for
an
alley
paving
can
be
several
thousand
dollars,
and
so
in
lower
income
areas,
you
frequently
can't
even
get
an
alley
paving
project
approved
because
the
residents
just
can't
afford
to
have
that
special
assessment,
even
if
we
break
it
out
over
10
years.
So
that
means
we
get
really
uneven
quality
of
our
public
facilities
and
alley
paving.
Does
you
know
a
lot
of
things?
C
It
improves
our
ability
to
deliver
services
like
garbage
collection,
even
life
safety.
You
know
in
many
cases,
fire
trucks
use
the
alleys
if
they
need
to
for
any
kind
of
emergency
things,
and
it
also
affects
things
like
drainage,
and
we
know
this
is
part
of
our
carp
plan.
How
do
we
deal
with
these
downpours?
C
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
reasonable,
but
that's
the
hud
rule.
So
there
are
certainly
times
that
we
run
into
things
like
that
that
we
again
try
to
figure
out
ways
to
take
care
of
some
of
those
needs
that
really
disparately
affect
our
low-income
residents,
especially
when
it's
things
like
this.
These
alley
special
assessments
seniors
who
are
living
on
fixed
incomes,
but
that
can
be
throughout
the
city
as
well.
So.
C
In
fact,
it
can
be
one
of
the
easiest
things
to
qualify
as
eligible
if
you
are
doing
a
facade
improvement
for
a
business
that
is
in
one
of
our
small
business
districts
that
is
in
a
primarily
low
and
moderate
income
residential
area,
because
you're
improving
the
quality
of
life
for
the
all
the
people
in
that
area.
By
improving
that
building.
C
On
the
other
hand,
you
can
make
grants
or
loans
that
are,
in
essence,
just
operating
capital
and
that's
something
that
can
be
very
valuable
with
cdbg
and
that
we've
done
limited
loans,
and
that
was
one
of
the
most
successful
ways
we
worked
on
revitalizing
howard
street
ward,
8
was
a
recipient
of
a
cdbg
loan
good
to
go
was
a
recipient
of
the
cdbg
loan.
So
so
it's
not
that
it
can't
work.
C
It
works
under
certain
circumstances,
but
when
you
give
a
business
a
grant
or
a
loan,
there
are
kind
of
two
areas
that
you
can
qualify
them
through
by
if
you
have
a
micro
enterprise
defined
as
having
five
or
fewer
employees,
including
the
ownership
and
the
ownership,
is
lower
moderate
income.
You
have
the
greatest
flexibility
in
terms
of
how
much
money
you
can
give
them
and
how
they
use
it.
C
Job
retention
requires
something
really
really
concrete,
like
a
declaration
that
the
business
will
go
out
of
business
literally
if
they
don't
receive
help
so
that
one's
a
really
tough
one
to
use.
So
we've
used
job
creation
in
some
cases,
but
again
it's
it's
challenging
and
it
also
requires
a
lot
of
paperwork.
C
C
So
that's
another
reason
with
there
is
a
there's,
a
phrase
that
hud
told
me
when
I
first
started
working
on
cdbg,
and
this
was
actually
related
to
the
physical
building,
things
that
and
that
phrase
is
touched
by
cdbg
tainted
by
cdbg,
because
I
found
out
that
you
couldn't
just
give
somebody
cdbg
to
do
one
part
of
their
rehab
or
project
and
just
keep
it
to
that.
No
it.
The
whole
project
has
to
be
covered
by
the
same
regulations.
B
B
Second,
okay,
so
the
last
goal
is
public
services
very
quickly.
This
goal
is
actually
now
managed
under
the
social
services
committee,
so
we
did
add
it
because
it
is
part
of
the
consulted
plan
and
it
is
part
of
what's
discussed
there,
but
it
is
not
something.
That's
necessarily
going
to
be
discussed
in
hcdc.
B
And
then
our
final
slide
is
the
actual
goals
chart.
So
when
we
once
the
consolidated
plane
was
built,
we
look
at
estimated
resources
for
the
next
five
years
and
put
some
attach
some
projections
of
goals
to
those
resources,
and
this
is
the
chart
that
you
see
here
so
as
an
example,
the
61
new
rental
units
that
would
be
affordable
or
20
the
35
units
that
would
be
rehabbed
over
five
years.
So
all
of
those
are
the
projected
goals
that
we
have
for
the
five
year
period,
2020
to
2024.
C
C
Cdbg,
yes,
and
for
home,
you
can
see
we
expected
just
shy
of
700
000.
That
would
go
against
this
goal.
Now.
Keep
in
mind
that
much
of
cdbg
is
not
well
with
cdbg,
with
very
limited
exceptions.
You
cannot
create
new
housing,
you
can
fix
housing,
but
you
can't
create
new
housing,
so
those
61
new
rental
units
are
virtually
all
it's
all
home
and
60
of
them
are
the
and
rainy
apartments,
because.
C
C
The
way
we
get
the
unit
count
because
each
unit
costs
way
more
than
the
amount
of
home
we're
putting
in
obviously
is
by
using
our
home,
and
in
this
case,
our
home
and
our
affordable
housing
fund,
as
what
is
known
as
the
soft
money
in
large
developments,
soft
money
being
money
that
is
way
down
in
the
you
know,
it's
it's
the
subordinated
to
the
primary
mortgage
and
the
you
know:
tax
credit
funding
and
things
like
that.
So
it
even
if
it's
done
as
a
loan,
you
don't
expect
it
will
ever
be
repaid
our.
C
C
So
that's
what's
so
weird
about
the
way
before
they
did
this
very
prescriptive
form
within
their
idis
system.
We
had
a
much
more
free-flowing
like
yes.
This
is
everything
that's
going
on
in
evanston
that
I
think
actually
informed
both
hud
and
our
public
more
effectively
about
what
was
what's
really
being
done,
but
that
stuff
will,
it
will
appear
in
the
narrative,
but
we
can't
claim
it
if
we
didn't
fund
it
right.
Okay,.
B
B
I'm
gonna
be
posting
this
presentation
on
the
committee's
page,
as
well
as
as
soon
as
we
have.
The
video
recording
edited
it'll
also
be
available
to
watch,
probably
tomorrow
right
for
any
committee
members
that
didn't
get
to
join
today
or
any
audience
member
right
yeah,
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing
just
so
I
can
see.
I
believe
we
have
a
few
questions.
C
C
C
That
was
a
pretty
high
risk
undertaking
at
the
time.
Howard
street
has
come
back
a
lot
since
that
that
first
work
that
this
you
know
that
work
that
the
city
really
started.
So
they
couldn't
get
market
rate
financing
a
bank
might
give
them
some
of
the
financing,
but
they
certainly
weren't
going
to
give
them
all
with
good.
To
go.
For
example,
good
to
go
had
an
sba
loan,
but
the
city
put
in
both
some.
I
think
it
was
tiff.
It
might
have
been
economic
development
fund.
C
Again,
the
sba
loan
didn't
really
cover
all
their
costs.
They
had
taken
on
complete,
rebuilding
and
revitalizing
two
separate
buildings
that
had
been
vacant
for
a
long
time
on
howard
street.
So
you
had
all
that
lovely
like
oh
unforeseen
conditions.
When
you
open
up
a
wall
and
you
find
something's,
you
know
much
in
much
worse
shape
or
the
plumbing
needs.
You
know
different
kinds.
So
that's
really.
C
We
either
use
it
for
for
small
businesses
and
projects,
or
we
are
only
a
small
portion
of
funding
sort
of
again
that
gap
funding.
If
you
will
so
that's
about
the
best,
I
can
do
on
answering
that
one,
the
61
rental
units
in
terms
of
bedrooms
and
rent
the
60
units
in
the
ann
rainy
apartments
are
all
one
and
two
bedrooms.
I
don't
off
the
top
of
my
head
recall
exactly
how
many
of
them
are
two-bedroom.
C
C
The
single
unit
in
the
adu
will
be
officially
restricted
at
60
percent
of
area
median
for
the
home
regs.
We
hope
to
be
able
to
restrict
it
or
to
rent
it
at
50
percent
of
the
area.
Median,
that's
going
to
be
something
that
hodc
will
have
to
work
out
at
the
time
of
rent
up
based
on
costs
and
cash
flow.
C
One
of
the
challenges
in
evanston
when
you
have
a
small
rental
property.
You
know
two
to
three
units,
you
don't.
Even
if
all
the
units
are
affordable,
you
don't
get
any
tax
benefits.
You
don't
get
any
property
tax
deductions
and
stuff
like
that.
So
we
do
everything
to
not
over
restrict
our
smallest
units,
our
smallest
buildings,
because
it
can
make
it
prohibitively
hard
for
them
to
maintain
their
building
and
the
home
requirements
for
even
that
one
unit
is,
it
has
to
be
retained,
affordable
at
or
below
60
percent
of
area
median
for
20
years.
C
B
C
C
C
We
are
allowed
to
use
20
of
our
cdbg
grant
for
administration
compliance
and
reporting,
and
we
historically
allocate
that
we
don't
always
use
all
of
it,
but
we
allocate
it
because
there
is
a
lot,
a
lot,
a
lot
of
stuff
that
needs
to
be
done
and
cdbg
even
just
preparing
the
con
plan.
The
action
plan
and
the
caper
take
up
a
substantial
amount
of
time,
especially
sometimes
we
joke
that
if
it
weren't
in
their
cranky
database,
we
could
do
it
faster.
But
you
know:
idis
is
its
own
critter
and
idis
is
the
integrated.
C
So
it's
like
we
have
what
is
known
as
our
lox
line
of
credit
for
each
of
our
grants,
and
we
literally
have
teresa
borgia,
who
is
our
financial
analyst,
sees
what
shows
up
in
our
bills
paid
and
identifies
the
cdbg
things
and
the
home
things
and
the
esg
things
and
submits
a
voucher
in
idis.
Somebody
in
finance
has
to
approve
it.
You've
got
to
have
separation
of
responsibilities,
no
one
person
can
do
all
tasks
of
that
financial
security
and
then,
usually
within
about
three
days,
the
money
is
delivered
to
our
bank
accounts.
C
C
D
C
C
C
Where
you
have
enormous,
you
know
where
you
have
neighborhoods
that
are
at
least
as
large
as
evanston
that
are
extremely
low
income,
and
so
a
lot
of
that's
why
the
area
benefit
and
all
that
stuff
is
such
a
crazy,
crazy
quilt
of
what
we
can
and
can't
do
and
hud
says.
Well,
you
know
you
can
do
a
survey.
If
you
don't
think
the
the
american
community
survey
is
giving
you
accurate
results.
C
Yes,
you
can
and
you
have
to
develop
the
survey,
get
it
approved
by
hud,
complete
the
survey
analyze
it
and
do
that.
So
we've
done
that
a
few
times
and
we've
had
some
that
have
worked
out
and
we've
had
some
that
haven't
worked
out,
but
you
don't
want
to
do
it
lightly,
because
it
can
take
up
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
and
really
not
accomplish
a
whole
lot.
So
so,
as
I
said
on,
our
public
works
things.
D
C
Population
went
up
by
4.9
percent,
one
of
the
few
part
communities
in
illinois
that
that
happened.
An
awful
lot
of
illinois
went
the
opposite
direction.
We
don't
have
any
of
the
other
detail
at
this
point.
The
biggest
thing
they're
working
on
and
and
did
release
is
information
for
redistricting.
That's
the
first
focus
of
the
census.
Normally
we
don't
start
getting
the
additional
detail
until
at
least
a
year
later,.
C
Doing
any
of
this,
not
a
good
thing
if
we
can
avoid
it,
but
we
also
put
that
if
our
grant
amount
that
we
receive
itself
creates
a
more
than
20
change,
say
example
would
be
cdbg
admin.
If
we
say
oh,
we
think
we'll
get
a
million
eight,
and
this
would
be
our
cdbg
admin
and
then
they
come
in
and
say
no
we're
giving
you
three
million.
C
Wouldn't
that
be
a
nice
problem,
but
it
would
clearly
proportionately
screw
up
everything
it
would
I
mean
it
would
it
would
create
a
if
we
took
thirty
twenty
percent
of
a
three
million
dollar
pot.
It's
going
to
be
more
than
twenty
percent
more
than
a
right.
You
know
we
said
if,
if
it's
caused
by
that
alone,
it
does
not
create
a
substantial
amendment
and
how
to
prove
that.
C
So
we're
we're
not
you
know
we
tried
to
make
it
because
otherwise
we
spend
all
our
time
on
this
planning
function
and
nothing
on
actually
doing
the
work
which
we're
trying
to
avoid.
So
we
will
do
that
draft
action
plan
and
it
will
be
posted
by
approximately
the
middle
of
november,
probably
just
before
our
november
meeting
we'll
talk
about
it
at
our
november
meeting,
including
we
will
bring
the
committee
some
of
the
city
activities
that
historically
are
cdbg
funded
that
are
actually
also
it
goes
in
tandem
with
our
budgeting.
C
You
know,
overall
city
budgeting,
for
example,
money
for
code
enforcement
money
to
maintain
our
housing
rehab
program,
which
has
always
been
completely
cdbg
funded.
So
if
we
don't
fund
it,
we
won't
have
a
housing,
rehab
program,
you
know,
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
those
and
some
public
works
things,
because
we
can't
get
our
public
works
projects
done
in
the
next
year.
C
If
we
don't
start
planning
them
ahead
of
time,
and
so
we'll
give
you
budgets
that
will
allow
that,
but
it
won't
be
the
entire
budget
for
anything
and
then,
depending
on
the
committee's
willingness
to
say.
Yes,
we
agree
with
the
funding
for
those
things
we
proceed.
We
don't
do
the
bidding
or
anything
like
that,
but
the,
but
the
engineers
would
start
the
planning
and
stuff
that's
needed
for
it
and
then
once
we
get
oh
okay,
so
november
the
action
plan
gets
posted
december.
We
have
the
public
comment
on
the
action
plan.
A
C
A
C
But
once
we
get
once
appropriations
bills
are
approved,
then
hud
has,
I
think
it's
45
days.
I
ought
to
know
this
before
they
have
to
release
the
formula
grant
amounts.
Then
we
get
the
formula
grant
amounts.
We
have
to
update
the
action
plan
and
normally
you
know,
then
what
we
do
is
we
bring
that
back
to
this
committee
for
approval?
Then
it
goes
to
council.
C
C
One
thing
I
would
like
I
just
wanted
to
ask
one
more
thing
is:
if
there
are
things
that
people
have,
they
have
specific
questions
on
and
want
more
information
on.
It
would
be
really
helping
you.
We
don't
expect
you
to
necessarily
think
of
it
right
now,
but
please
please,
please
let
us
know
email
marion
and
me
and
it's
something
that
we
can
maybe
add
to
a
regular
meeting
and
say
here's
a
little
more
information
on
that
topic
or
something
like
that.
But
it's
hard
to
know
what
people
are.