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From YouTube: Housing & Community Development Committee - 09-21-2021
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First Housing & Community Development Committee meeting. For more information about the committee please see the HCDC webpage.
HCDC Webpage - https://www.cityofevanston.org/government/housing-community-development-committee
A
A
I
guess
I
declare
a
core
that
we
have
a
quorum
and
we
need
to
have
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules,
because,
pursuant
to
governor
pritzker's
executive
order,
suspending
in-person
requirements
for
public
meetings,
we
we
are
able
to
meet
remotely
via
zoom,
but
we
need
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
to
allow
for
remote
attendance.
If
someone
could
make
that
motion
in
a
second,
I.
C
B
D
C
C
A
Great
well,
let's
move
on
to
the
rest
of
our
agenda
and
the
first
thing
is
for
us
to
do
brief
introductions,
so
we
can
all
start
to
get
acquainted
and
I'll
start
off
saying
that
I'm
council
member
eleanor
revell
from
the
seventh
ward
in
evanston
and
prior
to
this,
I
was
on
the
housing
and
homelessness
commission,
and
so
I
raised
my
hand
to
move
over
to
this
committee
once
we
eliminated
the
housing
or
consolidated
the
housing
and
homelessness.
Commission.
A
I've
also
been
a
member
of
the
affordable
housing
plan
steering
committee
that
worked
for
a
number
of
months
to
basically
lay
the
groundwork
for
an
affordable
housing
plan,
which
I
trust
we
will
pick
up
again.
Probably
in
2022..
You
know
we'll
see
we'll
see
so
kathy.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
sure.
E
Thank
you.
My
name
is
kathy
feingold.
I
also
was
on
the
housing
and
homelessness
commission
and
my
background.
I
currently
work
for
a
non-profit,
affordable
housing
lender
called
community
investment
corporation.
I'm
a
loan
officer
there
and
I
have
well
my
background
has
been
in
community
development
for
over
20
years.
I
have
worked
for
the
city
of
chicago.
I
have
worked
for
four
non-profit
lenders
and
I
have
significant
experience
in
underwriting,
affordable
housing
lending
and
developments.
E
A
She's
frozen,
hey,
okay,
councilmember
newsma
you're.
Next
on
my
screen.
B
Hi
everybody,
I'm
jonathan
newsman,
a
newly
elected
city
council
member
for
the
fourth
ward.
I
also
serve
on
the
administration
and
public
works
committee,
as
well
as
the
planning
and
development
committee
and
the
economic
development
committee.
So
I
come
to
the
city
council
with
a
decade
of
advocacy
work
with
citizens,
greener,
evanston,
particularly
passionate
about
about
climate
action
and
environmental
justice.
D
I
served
on
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee
for
a
couple
of
years
before
this
committee
got
formed
this
year
and
I'm
really
excited
about
it.
I'm
a
real
estate
broker
for
about
34
years
already
I
work
evanston
in
the
city
of
chicago.
D
I
work
extensively
with
a
neighborhood
stabilization
program
during
the
big
recession
in
the
city
of
chicago,
not
in
evanston.
I
also
do
belong
to
the
libya
senior
center
foundation
board
and
I
do
I
have
been
on
the
board
of
directors
for
association
house
of
chicago
for
about
26
years.
D
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
disciplinary
committee
for
the
chicago
association
of
realtors
and
the
illinois
association
of
realtors
and
I've
been
a
certified
mediator
for
the
national
association
of
realtors,
doing
a
lot
of
mediation
work
within
my
peers
and
with
the
public
at
large,
with
issues
with
real
estate
for
the
last
20
years,
so
glad
to
be
a
member
of
this
of
this
committee.
D
A
You
councilmember
reed,
want
to
introduce
yourself.
F
Certainly,
I
am
tavan
rita
councilman
for
the
eighth
ward,
former
city
clerk,
and
I
serve
on
just
about
every
committee
that
a
council
member
can
serve
on.
I'm
so
excited
to
be
a
part
of
this
committee.
D
G
Berlin,
I'm
an
evanston
resident
and
my
relevant
background
is:
I
spent
a
couple
years
working
in
the
secondary
mortgage
market
for
a
non-profit
community
development
finance
organization
and
we
were
working
on
mortgage
lending
to
low
and
moderate
income
individuals
underserved
by
traditional
lenders
and
then
and
then
I
was
a
reporter
reporting
on
some
of
these
issues
for
primarily
for
the
huffington
post,
and
then
I
put
the
two
things
together.
G
So
now,
I'm
self-employed
as
a
communications
consultant
and
all
of
my
clients
work
on
issues
of
economic
opportunity,
some
of
them
it's
pretty
technical
financial
issues
around
affordable
housing,
some
of
them
it's
it's
more
sort
of
lay
person
stuff.
A
Great
well,
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
really
great
expertise
on
the
committee
and
I
really
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
as
we
we,
as
sarah
will
tell
us
soon.
We
have
a
big,
a
big
work
plan
to
accomplish
so
we'll
hear
from
that.
In
just
a
few
minutes
we
have
a
couple
of
more
business
items,
one
in
your
packet.
A
D
Yes,
I
on,
I
found
a
couple
of
things
that
I
would
like
to
ask
questions
about
on
on
this,
and
the
first
one
is
on
the
mission
on
section
one.
There
is
an
exception
exception
to
exception.
I'm
sorry
to
what
this
committee
is
supposed
to
do
as
part
of
its
mission.
D
It
says
the
purpose
of
the
housing
and
community
development
committee
is
to
act
in
an
advisory
capacity
to
the
city
council
on
matters
that
relate
to
the
built
environment
and
the
use
of
federal
community
development,
block,
grant
funds
except
public
services,
category
cdbg
and
home
investment
partnership
funds
and
the
city's
affordable
housing
fund
and
any
other
funding
source
that
city
council
deems
appropriate
to
address.
Primarily,
so
all
those
exceptions
are
out
of
it
and
are
out
of
our
realm
of
what
we
oversee.
D
But
then
it
says
that
the
committee
is
responsible
for
capital
and
economic
development
projects
and
programs,
including,
but
not
limited
to
housing,
acquisition,
development
and
preservation
and
houses
and
services.
When
we
really
have
been
we
have,
we
made
the
exception
to
not
include
most
of
that
work.
H
Well,
I
think
it's
a
punctuation
issue,
ugo
because
the
it's
it
should
say
that
relate
to
the
built
environment,
the
use
of
federal
community
development
block
grant
funds
except
public
services,
category
comma.
So
only
the
public
services
category
is
accepted
and
we,
this
committee
is
responsible
for
home
and
the
affordable
housing
fund.
So
I
think
it's
a
punctuation
error,
okay
and-
and
we
can
clarify
that
by
and
maybe
we
can
say,
community
development
block
grants,
funds,
with
the
exception
of
the
public
services.
H
D
Okay,
that
that
would
make
more
sense
than
what
I
see
here
and
so
we're
going
to
be
then
overseeing
a
lot
of
these
or
getting
reports
on
a
lot
of
this
work
that
the
cities
is
will
be
doing.
Is
that
correct.
D
Okay,
on
section
two,
I
am
concerned
with
this.
The
last
sentence
in
the
paragraph
says
these
programs
and
services
shall
be
accessible
and
responsive
to
community
needs
and
shall
be
available
to
to
qualify
low,
moderate
and
middle-income
evanston
residents.
Well,
I
realize
that
a
lot
of
the
work
that
the
city
does
covers
the
majority
of
the
residents
of
evanston.
D
I
think
that
our
work
should
be
more
towards
making
certain
or
make
it
a
priority
that
the
work
that
we
are
overseeing
or
approving
or
recommended
to
counsel
is
for
low
and
moderate
income
evanston
residents.
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
eliminate
the
middle
income,
because
that
will
be
a
totally
different
category
and
it
broads.
D
D
That
is
just
a
suggestion
on
that
more
than
just
a
punctuation
in
this
case.
Sorry
about
that.
H
Exactly
and
it
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
fund
them
equally
by
any
means,
but
the
affordable
housing
fund
goes
to
a
higher
income
level
than
the
our
hud
funding
and
crosses
into
that
middle
income.
And
in
fact
some
of
our
inclusionary
units
are
in
that,
and
even
just
our
wait
list
management
serves
those
people,
but
it
doesn't
mean
we're
going
to
be
putting
our
money
into
building
housing
for
them,
and
we
could
certainly
do
something
recommendations
about
fright.
You
know
shall
be.
B
D
Will
be
that
we
clarify
the
language
because
then
the
argument,
the
way
it
stands.
The
argument
could
be
made
that
middle
income
is
inclusive
in
our
language
and
I
think
that
if
we
make
the
clarifications
upfront,
then
we're
eliminating
arguments
unnecessary
arguments
later
on.
So
if
we
could
add
that
language
that
you're,
specifying
that.
I
D
To
me
be-
and
I'm
really
sorry
about
my
dog
barking
but
she's-
a
total
guard
dog.
So
my
apologies,
but
I
will
really
feel
more
comfortable
that
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
make
recommendations
for
low
and
moderate
income
projects
over
projects
that
involve
more
middle
income.
Evanston
residents,
because
the
needs
are
so
big
in
our
community.
E
H
H
Technically,
the
affordable
housing
fund
is
restricted
to
the
media,
so
we
don't
and
the
other
thing
is
when
we
get
into
public
facilities
and
things
those
are
never
with
housing,
we
would
always
have
to
have
very
specific
income.
H
You
know
restrictions
if
we're
doing
housing,
because
you
have
to
do
it
on
household
income,
but
when
we
look
at,
for
example,
cdbg
helps
can
be
used
to
fund
improvements
to
public
facilities
for
nonprofits
that
can
serve
a
broader
range,
but
they
have
to
be
serving
primarily,
in
other
words,
51
percent
or
more
of
the
people
being
served
have
to
be
fifty
percent
of
I
mean
eighty
percent
of
every
median
are
below,
so
I
think
that
maybe
there's
some
way
we
could
put
something
in
that
covers
this.
H
Let
me
kind
of
think
about
it,
because
it's
kind
of
housing
is
different
from
the
other
categories.
So
I'm
concerned
that
maybe
if
we
put
something
aligned
with
city
goals
and
and
the
funding
restrictions
of
the
source
or
something
like
that,
because
then
I
think
we've
covered
that
and
it
would
give
us
very
little
flexibility.
For
you
know.
People
can't
come
to
us
and
say
to
your
point:
google.
A
A
Well,
I
I
think
so,
sarah
do
we.
Can
we
make
some
suggestions
for
some
revisions
and
then
approve
them
at
our
next
meetings?.
H
C
I
apologize
for
interrupting,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
councilmember
reed
are
you
on,
and
can
you
hear
us
because
I've
been
trying
to
promote
him?
I
he
has
his
hand
raised.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
he
wasn't
trying
to
participate.
It
looks
like
maybe
he
has
lost
ability
to
participate.
C
B
A
D
Actually
have
a
couple
more
points,
if
you,
if
you
don't
mind
unless
I
don't
want
to,
I
don't
want
to
be
the
the
only
one
talking
about
this,
but
we're
we're
supposed
to
approve
the
the
rules
and,
and
so,
if
no
one
else
has
anything
I
do
have
on
section
two
on
their
membership.
D
There
is,
which
is
article
three
section
two
b
ensure
that
funding
is
prioritized
for
projects
and
services
that
provide
decent
housing,
a
suitable
living
environment
and
economic
opportunity
for
evanston's
low
and
moderate
income
residents,
which
is
great.
But
then,
if
we
go
to
d,
evaluate
applications,
prioritize
and
recommend
funding
adaptations
to
city
council
for
housing,
public
facility
and
infrastructure
improvements
and
economic
development
programs
and
projects
that
advance
the
priorities
set
forth
by
city
council
priorities
that
improve
the
health
and
well-being
of
evanston
low,
moderate
and
middle-income
residents.
D
Then,
if
we
look
into
same
section
2,
so
paragraph
e
monitored
the
progress
and
impact
of
projects
and
programs
receiving
city
funding.
My
question
here
is
to
to
ask:
how
are
we
going
to
be
doing
that?
Because,
on
the
previous
housing
and
committee,
housing
and
community
development
act
committee,
we
didn't
have
the
power
of
overseeing?
We
were
just
making
recommendations,
but
now
this
committee
seems
to
be
a
lot
more
powerful
than
that
and
we
are
going
to
be.
Monitoring
just
would
like
to
get
a
little
bit
of
an
insight
of.
H
Well,
a
lot
of
the
actual
information
will
have
to
come
from
staff
and
I
think
that
what
we
need
to
do
is
decide
what
are
the
key
indicators
and
things
that
the
committee
wants
to
have
reports
on
and
historically
for
example,
the
housing
homelessness
commission
would
get
reports
on
what
was
happening
with
the
inclusionary
housing
units
and
the
wait
list
and
what
was
happening
with
the
landlord
tenant
program
with
the
other.
H
I
don't
think
that
we
don't
really
want
the
committee
to
be
responsible
for
literally
monitoring
the
staff
responsibility
of
monitoring,
so
we
don't
mean
the
you're
going
to
have
to
go
through
documents,
but
I
think
that
you
know
we
can
talk
about
things
that
you
would
like
to
have
reported
on.
For
example,
we
have
the
and
rainy
apartments
are
being
completed.
H
One
of
the
things
that
I
we
will
want
to
report
on
is
once
rent
up
is
started,
how
quickly
it's
rented
up
and
that
sort
of
stuff
many
of
those.
Well
all
those
projects
are
very
carefully
restricted
by
you
know.
There
are
units
at
sixty
percent
of
area
median
without
without
project-based
support.
There
are
units
at
fifty
percent
of
area
median
with
and
without
project-based
support
and
at
30
percent,
and
so
we
staff
will
monitor
at
that
level
and
they
have
to
show
us
documents.
H
So
we
would
report
if
they
are
in
compliance,
but
we're
not
going
to
make
you
all
do
that.
That's
kathy
can
tell
you
that's
quite
onerous,
so
maybe.
D
But
that
brings
another
concern,
because
if
we
look
at
g
and
f,
that
is
reflective
of
a
much
larger
input
from
our
committee
yeah,
you
know
so
it
is.
It
is
a
little
contradictory.
What
you're
telling
us
now,
but
we
will
be
approving,
is
inclusive
of
overseeing
all
of
those
things.
Sarah,
so
I
I
I
made
it
as
a
note
on
on
my
notes
that
this
section
and
section
two
of
the
membership
and
powers
and
powers
and
duties
of
our
committee
are
pretty
large.
D
I
mean
this
is
this
is
awesome
as
a
as
a
as
an
evanston
resident.
That
is
not
a
member
of
the
council
or
anything
like
that.
This
is
this
is
amazing.
This
is
an
incredible
task
or
or
orders
for
our
committee,
but
how
are
we
going
to
perform?
How
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
oversee
all
this,
and
that
is
my
question.
You
know
I
I
I
love.
I
love
it.
I
think
it's
it's
great,
but
what
is
it
going
to
be
in
place
for
us
to
be
able
to
perform.
H
H
I
don't
know
how
many
versions
of
these
sorts
of
rules,
but
for
committees,
and
so
whenever
we
have
to
draft
them,
we
sort
of
grab
stuff
from
different
ones
and
try
to
get
make
sure
we're
covering
enough.
But
no
one
thing
is
essential
and
that
is
really
really
quite
vague
and
doesn't
get
to,
but
we
do
when
you
get
into
f
conduct,
periodic
reviews
and
assessments
of
the
effectiveness
of
city,
ordinances
and
policies.
H
You
know
those
are
going
to
be
things
like
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance.
One
of
our
tasks
for
next
year
is
to
look
at
that
and
see.
If
there
are
changes
we
should
make
just
make
to
strengthen
it
and
staff
will
work
on
bringing
some
of
those
things
to
the
committee.
But
this
is
one
of
the
topics
we
will
get
to
is
like.
Should
this
be
a
task
force?
The
prior
time
we
updated
it
as
council
member
belcher
ravel
can
tell
you.
H
We
had
a
combination
of
council
members
and
experts,
developers
and
financing
experts
to
talk
about
what
would
work
and
what
wouldn't
work,
because
one
of
the
things
is
a
lot
of
those
decisions
and
policies.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
get
input
from
outside
experts
and
bring
that
to
the
committee
and
help
form
the
policies.
Then
the
committee
can
recommend
but
you're
right.
H
We
have
a
very
broad
responsibility
here
and
it's
pretty
difficult
for
any
one
person
or
any
group
of
you
know
nine
people
to
bring
all
the
expertise
and
the
time
to
do
that.
So
some
of
that
has
to
be
task,
forces
and
staff,
obviously
bringing
new
information.
So
I
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful.
It's
a
good
point.
Maybe
we
make
this
look
a
little
too
onerous
and
we'll
never
get
a
committee
member
on
the
committee
after
me,
but
so
I'm
open
to
anything.
I
don't
think
there's
any
harm
in
just
deleting
e.
H
I
think
it's
really
a
vague
one.
You
know
it
just
says,
monitor
progress
and
impact
of
projects
and
programs,
so,
but
also
in
some
cases
it
might
be
well.
How
is
this
project
proceeding?
Is
it
on
schedule?
You
know
that
sort
of
thing.
It
can
be
quite
a
variety
of
different
things,
depending
on
what's
happening
at
any
given
time.
D
No-
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
it's
being
afraid
of
the
task
in
front
of
us-
that's
not
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
it
up,
because
I
think
that
it's
it's
phenomenal,
that
that
a
committee
outside
of
the
council
is
being
put
out
to
oversee
and
to
work
on
this
level
of
detail,
which
I
really
like.
D
I
mean
there
is
some
mention
of
the
of
the
residential
landlord
in
an
ordinance
which
you
know
it's
under
a
lot
of
scrutiny
from
everywhere
from
the
city
of
chicago
and
the
cook
county,
and
all
of
that,
so
I
I'm
really
glad
to
I'll
be
happy
to
tackle
on
any
of
these
points
or
help
in
any
way
I
can
with
those.
But
I
would
like
to
also
know
if
we're
going
to
be
responsible-
and
somebody
comes
to
us
and
says
well
where,
where
is
this
project?
D
And
we
don't
know
because
we
don't
have
access
to
really
monitor
and
and
check
on
what
really
is
going
on,
then
we're
in
a
pickle,
and
I
will
I'm
trying
just
to
prevent
and
see.
How
is
that
going
to
be
prevented
what's
in
place
for
us
to
not
just
do
that,
and
I
realized
that
templates
are
used
for
many
committees
and
stuff
like
that,
but
I
I
I
like
to
really
make
sure
that
if
we're
responsible,
we
know
how
to
tackle
that.
D
That
that's
almost
that
e
that
passes
a
paragraph
e.
D
It's
not
that
relevant
to
me,
but
you
know
the
charge
is
crisp
again
and
I
like
to
know
what
are
the
tools
that
we're
gonna
have
at
our
service
so
that
we
can
use
to
to
to
conduct
this
periodic
reviews
and
assessments
of
the
effectiveness
of
the
city,
ordinances
and
policies
that
achieve
city
council
goals
and
recommended
amendments
to
increase
their
effectiveness
and
all
of
that.
So
it
is
a
pretty
large
charge.
What
we're
taking
here
and-
and
I'm
not
afraid
of
that,
it's
just
that
to
see.
D
How
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
tackle
that?
One
last
point
that
I
like
to
bring
is,
I
could
not
see
for
the,
and
I
really
have
a
pretty
my
vision
is
deteriorating
pretty
fast,
but
the
maps
are
really
hard
to
see
any
way
that
we
can
get
clearer
maps
of
what
we
have.
If
I
expand
on
the
map,
it
becomes
so
blurry
that
I
can't
read
say,
but
that
will
be
great.
I
don't
know
if,
if
that's
at
all
possible.
C
Yeah,
I
can
send
you
the
original
version
that
we
usually
have
to
print
an
11x17
because
they're
so
tiny.
I
had
to
scale
it
down
for
the
packet,
but
I
can
send
you
by
email.
I
can
send
you
all
the
original
ones
that
are
11
by
17..
That.
H
1.2
and
that
is
in
f,
we
say,
goals
and
recommend
amendments
to
increase
their
effectiveness
for
consideration.
Basically,
this
can
include,
but
is
not
limited
to,
and
so
part
of
what
the
committee
will
do
is
develop
its
work
plan
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
want
to
get
input
on.
E
Keep
you
from
doing
it.
I
just
wanted
to
interject
that,
just
from
my
experience
on
the
housing
and
homelessness
commission,
we
really
look
to
the
staff
to
be
the
experts
on
this,
and
you
know
they're
great,
at
sort
of
whittling
down
the
most
relevant
information
to
present
to
us,
whether
in
the
package
or
verbally,
at
the
meetings,
not
that
you
can't
take
out
more
research
and
I'm
sure
they'd
be
very
willing
to
give
you
as
much
information
as
you
need.
E
If
you
request
it,
but
I
don't,
I
think
that
we
can
always
turn
to
them.
If
somebody
asks
us
a
question
about
a
project
and
say
you
know,
we
really
think
it's
the
staff
that
can
provide
whatever
information
that
someone
might
request.
A
So
sarah,
then,
if
you
could
give
us
some,
you
know
for
the
next
meeting,
maybe
a
couple
of
options
for
particularly
that
one
that
we
talked
about
earlier.
One
vision,
that'd
be
great
and
we'll
look
to
approve
the
rules
at
the
next
meeting.
H
Great
okay:
I've
got
section
one
of
article
two,
the
mission
noted
and
also
section
three,
the
method
of
funding
on
the
second
page
and
then
d
e
and
f
under
powers
and
duties.
A
Right,
great,
okay!
So
so,
since
I'm
going
to
go
back
in
the
agenda
a
minute
because
council
member
burns
has
joined
us
and
council
member
burns,
we
did
a
bit
of
an
introduction
of
ourselves.
Could?
Could
you
tell
the
committee
a
little
bit
about.
J
Yourself,
yeah,
council
member
fifa,
ward
evanson,
I
grew
up
in
evanston,
went
through
the
public
education
school
system
here
political
consultant
and
an
advocate
around
issues
mainly
around
economic
development,
social
justice,
education,
etc,
and
that
is
about
it.
I
serve
on,
I
think,
most
of
the
committee,
so
I'm
trying
to
use
this
time.
I
have
as
an
elected
official,
to
learn
as
much
as
I
can
and
yeah
happy
to
to
work
with
everyone
here
and-
and
I
did
have
one
one
question
too,
for
you
for.
Is
it
hugo.
J
Google
is,
if
you
ever,
if
you
can
think
of
any
tools
that
you
may
need
now,
I'd
love
to.
J
I
don't
know
if
you,
if
you
have
many
ideas
readily
available
now,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
what
tools
and
information
you
would
be
interested
in
having
us
at
our
disposal
as
committee
members,
and
if
you
don't
know
the
answers
to
that
now,
that's
fine,
but
I
would
say,
feel
free
to
bring
it
up
at
future
committee
meetings
or
you
know
or
email
me
personally
and
I'd
love
to
help
all
of
us
get
that
information
and
those
tools.
J
So
I
think
you
may
be
onto
something,
but
I
just
I'd
love
to
know
what
type
of
tools
you
think
we
may
need
so,
as
things
come
up,
feel
free
to
share
it.
A
Great
okay:
well,
our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
approving
our
meeting
schedule
for
2021-2022
and
sarah
has
indicated
several
of
the
meetings
where
we
will
be
getting
public
comment
on
important
document
federal
documents
that
we
submit
to
the
federal
government.
A
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
suggestions
about
our
agenda
or
a
motion
to
approve
that
schedule.
G
I
just
have
a
quick
question
about
that.
Are
these
generally
anticipated
to
be
like
an
hour
hour
and
a
half
two
hours,
I'm
happy
with
any,
but
just
thinking
about
child
care
needs
and
making
sure
I'm
covered.
A
H
I
would
hope
we
can
keep
it
to
two
hours
or
under
for
the
most
part,
because
I
think
it
is
not
reasonable.
I
would
ideally
like
it
to
be
more
like
an
hour
to
an
hour
and
a
half,
and
I
think
that
that's
again
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
look
at
sort
of
from
a
agenda
control.
What
are
our
priorities
and
make
sure
that
we're
focusing
on
things
and
not
necessarily
trying
to
do.
H
Millions
of
things
at
the
same
time
that
don't
get
us
anywhere
too.
I
think
that
that's
that's
really
important,
because
it
is
a
big
job,
but
one
of
the
things
that
you'll
see
is
some
of
the
things
are
going
to
be
very
periodic.
I
mean
they
just
don't
take
up
a
ton
of
time
all
the
time,
but
they
may
take
quite
a
bit
of
time
right.
A
H
I
D
A
No
and
I
think,
if
mentally,
we
think
more
in
the
vein
of
an
hour
to
an
hour
and
a
half
and
if
that's
okay
but
yeah,
all
right
so
cut.
Would
somebody
make
a
motion
about
approving
our
schedule
of
meetings.
B
A
B
B
B
C
And
the
motion
passes
six
to
zero.
I
just
want
to
mention
that
monica
bobo
has
been
trying
to
join
but
is
having
some
technical
issues
she's
going
to
try
to
call
in,
but
I
don't
know
if
she
will
be
able
to
be
a
participant
just
by
phone,
but
I'll
keep
an
eye
on
it.
Okay,
great.
A
I
hope
she
can,
I
hope
well
now
we're
ready
for
the
meat
of
our
meeting,
which
is
sarah's
going
to
give
us
a
an
overview
I
think,
would
be
of
of
what
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
for
the
next
20
2021-2022.
H
So
we're
gonna
start
screen
sharing
and
we're
gonna
quickly
go
through
till
we
get
to
slide.
Four,
I
would
think
is
what
we
need
to
be
on
in.
C
H
Here
we
go
okay
roles
and
responsibilities.
Well,
we
have
funding
recommendation
responsibilities
for
the
funds
that
we
discussed
cdbg
with
the
exception
of
public
services,
home
and
the
affordable
housing
fund.
H
We
really
want
this
committee
to
have
an
active
role
in
setting
policy
helping
set
policy
and
it
will
be
a
lot
of
material,
probably
brought
and
prepared
and
brought
by
staff,
but
we
have
such
a
range
of
of
relevant
knowledge
of
what
goes
on
in
our
community.
I
think
that
we
can
really
get
some
very
strong
policy
recommendations
and
we,
especially
when
we
get
into
certain
things
like
the
it's
a
few
years
off,
but
doing
a
new
consolidated
plan.
H
H
We
never
have
our
federal
grant
amounts
before
the
start
of
our
fiscal
year
and
due
to
a
peculiar
regulation
in
cbg,
we
have
to
post
a
a
draft
action
plan
for
our
upcoming
fiscal
year.
It
has
to
be
posted
for
30
days
of
public
comment
and
then
it
has
to
be
approved
by
the
committee,
or
there
has
to
be
some
acceptance
of
it
by
the
committee
on
on
the
draft
amount
in
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
put
our
expenditures
back
to
the
start
of
our
fiscal
year.
H
For
example,
this
year
we
got
access
to
our
cdbg
home
and
esg
grant
literally
the
release
of
funds
in
late
august.
So
what
happens
is
without
doing
this
draft
action
plan?
We
can't
keep
our
things
like
the
housing
rehab
program
going
our
code.
You
know
some
of
our
other
programs
that
really
are
paying
for
staff
time.
It's
a
pain
in
the
neck,
but
we're
stuck
with
it.
H
So
what
we
will
be
doing
is
we
do
a
draft
action
plan
with
estimated
grant
amounts
that
we
will
have
to
the
committee
at
its
november
meeting,
which
will
be
the
opening
of
the
public
comment
period,
and
then
we
will
explain
how
we
got
to
it.
We'll
show
you
a
little
more
about
that
later
in
this
discussion
and
the
december
meeting
will
be
a
vote
to
approve
it
on
estimate
and
hold
it
until
we
get
our
grant
amounts,
make
any
adjustments,
and
then
the
committee
will
recommend
it
to
council.
H
H
We
are
responsible
for
developing
the
consolidated
annual
performance
and
evaluation
report,
affectionately
known
as
the
caper,
which
is
a
very,
very
formulaic,
but
quite
informative
report
on
everything
that
was
done
in
the
past
fiscal
year.
That
has
to
be
to
hud
by
the
end
of
march.
H
We
have
to
have
a
15-year
a
15-year
dear
me,
a
15-day
public
comment
period
on
that,
so
we
get
into
having
that
public
comment
period,
either
at
the
end
of
february
or
in
early
to
mid
march,
depending
on
how
our
council
meetings
are
aligned
because
we
need
counsel
to
approve.
We
need
the
committee
to
approve
it
at
the
closing
of
the
public
comment
period
and
then
it
has
to
go
to
city
council.
H
So
these
are
just
things
that
are
built
into
our
schedule
and
all
of
our
our
action
plan
for
the
2020
through
2024
are
dictated
by
the
consolidated
plan
that
was
developed
and
approved
by
city
council
well,
and
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee
before
and
then
to
city
council.
And
that
is
our
roadmap.
If
you
will
for
our
use
of
funds,
they
can
be
amended
and
they
have
been
in
certain
situations,
but
that's
our
basis
for
what
we're
doing
and
our
action
plans.
H
Our
draft
action
plans
are
all
drawn
on
the
goals
and
objectives
of
those
plans
and
then
ultimately
carried
out.
So
that's
the
sort
of
hud
framework,
and
that
goes
on
no
matter
what
the
federal
government
does
not
have
to
have
its
budget
on
time.
They
don't
have
to
have
anything
on
time,
but
we
have
to
so
next
slide.
H
Okay,
so,
as
I
said,
the
con
plan
sets
the
priorities
and
goals
for
the
use
of
our
three
entitlement:
grants
cdbg,
home
and
esg,
and
it
informs
the
development
of
our
annual
action
plans.
The
action
plan
outlines
those
goals
and
activities
for
the
upcoming
year
and
then
the
capers.
So
the
other
thing
we
have
is
our
citizen
participation
plan
and
we
will
be
making
a
minor
amendment
to
our
citizen
participation.
This
participation
plan,
because
we
have
changed
the
committees
to
which
the
various
elements
of
the
consolidated
plan
go
right.
H
Now
the
action
plans,
I
mean
the
participation
citizens
participation
plan
says
it
goes
to
the
housing
and
community
development
act.
Committee
and
home
funding
is
approved
by
the
housing
and
homelessness
commission.
So
it's
really
just
to
align
the
citizen
participation
plan
with
our
new
committee
structure
and
we
will
have
that
to
be
posted
for
public
comment
and
it'll
it'll
be
simultaneous
with
the
2022
draft
action
plan.
So
next
slide.
H
So
what
are
our
sources
of
funding
and
how
do
they
work?
Well,
cdbg
is
our
biggest
entitlement
grant.
Our
2021
grant
was
a
million
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
some
odd
change.
Cdbg
has
an
expenditure
perry,
one
of
has
quite
a
long
expenditure
period,
but
we
have
to
have
all
of
the
cdbg
for
2021
expended
by
september
of
2028,
and
we
get
these
deadlines
every
year
when
we
get
our
grant
agreements
home.
H
Our
2021
home
funding
was
just
over
350
000
home
has
an
interesting
structure
where
you
have
a
roughly
a
two-year
commitment
period
where
you
have
to
commit
your
funding,
and
then
you
have
to
expend
it
by
a
different
date.
So
every
single
one
of
our
entitlement
grants
has
their
own
weirdness
the
affordable
housing
fund.
That's
our
most
flexible
source
of
funding.
H
Right
now,
our
uncommitted
balance
is
approximately
a
million
three
our
affordable
housing
fund.
Most
of
that
money
is
still
from
when
we
got
a
2.44
million
influx
of
cash
from
the
link
which
did
not
have
any.
H
H
We'll
talk
a
little
more
about
that
later,
even
though
these
aren't
officially
under
this
committee,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
at
least
be
aware
of
them
and
there's
a
possibility
that
we
could
get
more
responsibility
for
these
cdbg
cv
is
cares,
act
funding
that
was
issued
through
the
cdbg
entitlement
program
last
april.
H
Actually
it
came
out
in
multiple
tranches
as
they
called
it.
We
got
a
little
over
well,
almost
a
million
six
in
2020
and
we're
we
have
committed
and
expanded
portions
of
that,
but
not
all
of
it.
We
are
receiving
just
shy
of
a
million
three
in
home
funding
to
the
american
recovery
act
plan
arpa,
and
we
have
just
gotten
guidance
on
how
those
regulations
are
changed
from
the
regular
home
funding.
H
I
think
it's
important
and
relevant
that
we
be
aware
of
it
and
that
we
staff
bring
you
information
on
those
grants
as
well
and
city
council
could
decide.
For
example,
to
say:
oh
home
arp
should
go
through
this
committee.
There's
no
real
process
for
that
other
than
city
council
deciding
what
it
wants
to
do
so
next
slide.
C
C
I
may
have
to
pause
at
some
point
so
when
we're
talking
cdbg
we're
talking
community
development
block
grant,
this
is
federal
funding
that
is
meant
to
develop
viable
urban
communities
and
we're
talking
about
providing
decent
housing,
suitable
living
environment,
expanding
economic
opportunities
and
the
focus
really
it
with
this
funding
is
on
low
and
moderate
income
persons.
There's
a
lot
of
strings
attached
with
this
funding.
C
It's
quite
complex,
as
you
see
in
the
next
few
slides
and
very
specific
eligible
uses.
Some
of
those
include
public
facilities,
infrastructure,
rehab
code
enforcement,
economic
development,
public
services
and
then
there's
a
trunk
as
well
allocated
for
administration,
because
it
is
a
fairly
complex
program
to
administer.
C
So
here
is
a
general
overview
of
cdbg
allocation
for
2021..
This
chart
is
a
little
much
to
take
in
bear
with
us
if
you
start
looking
at
the
fir
the
two
columns
in
white
at
the
right.
This
is
where
we're
going
to
start
with.
So
it
gives
you
this
chart
gives
you
the
general
allocation
for
the
six
major
categories
that
we
have
as
far
as
goals
for
cdbg.
C
The
first
white
column
on
the
right
is
the
2021
estimated
amounts
that
we
put
together
when
we
worked
on
the
2021
draft
action
plan
and
that's
something
that
we'll
be
working
on
in
the
coming
months
to
do
the
2022
action
plan.
So
we
thought
it
was
important
for
you
to
be
able
to
see
that
we're
not
really
allocating
at
a
line
level,
but
we're
allocating
at
the
goal
level
with
broad
percentages,
estimated
percentages.
C
As
far
as
the
key
points
around
the
program,
there's
really
a
lot
of
restrictions,
we're
going
to
attempt
to
just
stay
really
high
level
in
this
presentation.
Key
things
to
understand
is
that
any
project,
that's
using
cdbg
funds,
must
benefit
low,
moderate
income
persons
for
evanston.
What
does
that
mean?
I
mean
for
chicago
metro
area.
Actually
that
means
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
income
for
a
household
of
one,
a
little
bit
under
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
house
of
the
four
we
have
specific
hud
charts
per
number
of
household.
C
Those
two
numbers
are
just
examples.
The
main
thing
to
understand
is
that
they
are
specific
activities
allowed
under
cdpg,
and
those
activities
must
meet
a
national
objective.
There's
three
type
of
national
objective.
The
key
one
for
us
is
going
to
be
around
low,
moderate
income,
so
it
could
be
a
little
benefiting
a
project.
That's
benefiting
a
majority
low,
moderate
income
area.
C
It
could
be
a
project,
that's
been
benefiting
specifically
a
little
moderate
income,
individual
family,
family
or
household,
or
it
could
be
a
project
that
is
helping
creating
or
retaining
a
job.
That's
going
to
be
for
a
little
moderate
income
person,
all
those
are
usually
under
the
low
moderate
income
objective.
C
The
other
two
national
objectives
that
exist
that
are
not
mentioned
on
this
slide
are
slum
blight
and
urgent
need.
The
reason
we
don't
mention
it
on
this
slide
is
they're
extremely
difficult
to
put
in
place
and
very
rarely
use
for
our
area.
So
the
majority
of
the
activities
we're
going
to
want
to
implement
or
work
with
are
going
to
be
the
ones
that
are
low,
moderate
income
that
use
that
national
objective
as
a
way
to
qualify.
C
As
far
as
sorry
as
far
as
the
allowed
activity
there's
very,
very
specific
lists,
we
have
approximately
about
a
hundred
matrix
code
for
a
very
specific
definition
of
what
is
allowed
or
not,
and
how,
as
well
as
what
objective
can
be
used
for
that
activity.
So
it's
also
a
combination
of
objective
and
activity.
C
C
C
So
here's
the
one
of
the
map
that
was
included
in
your
packet,
the
yellow
areas
on
the
in
this
map,
are
showing
the
census
block
groups
in
evanston
that
are
majority,
meaning
51
or
more
of
low
moderate
income
residents.
C
So
you
can
see
that
would
be
areas
that
could
potentially
qualify
as
lma
low,
moderate
income
area
now,
there's
other
factors:
it's
not
an
activity
must
not
only
just
be
located
in
that
area;
it
must
benefit
the
people
that
are
living
in
that
area
as
well,
meaning
must
serve
them,
but,
generally
speaking,
this
is
a
good
example
of
one
of
the
map.
We
use
to
try
to
understand
whether
an
activity
would
be
eligible.
C
C
C
We
have
different
ways
to
consider
as
a
committee
how
to
handle
those
applications
for
2021,
either
opening
application
this
year
with
very
challenging
timeline.
Given
that
we're
just
starting
with
our
first
committee
meeting
now
or
we
could
also
consider
combining
the
2021
and
2022
funding
and
have
one
implication
for
both.
H
All
right,
so
I'm
going
to
take
over
with
home
home
is
our
second
largest
grant
about.
350,
000
and
home
is
very
much
simpler
in
terms
of
what
you
can
do
with
it
than
cbg.
By
the
way,
cdbg
is
acknowledged
by
the
federal
government
to
be
the
single
most
complicated
grant
that
the
federal
government
has.
It
was
enacted
in
1974
and
they
mushed
a
whole
bunch
of
other
grant
programs
together
in
what
they
call
a
block
grant.
H
So
you
get
a
block
of
funding
and
can
do
a
whole
bunch
of
different
things,
but
if
the
the
goal
was
to
make
it
more
flexible
for
communities
to
do
what
they
needed
as
opposed
to
go
out
and
searching
for
all
the
specific
grants,
so
that's
that's
why
it
is
well.
Maybe
that's
part
of
the
reasons
it's
complicated,
but
part
of
it
is
just
complicated
regulations.
Home
was
enacted
in
1995,
I
think,
and
it
is
a
housing
program.
H
There
are
much
unlike
cdbg,
where
there
are
a
number
of
things
where
you
serve
primarily
low
and
moderate
income,
people
or
households
with
home.
You
must
serve
households
with
incomes
that
do
not
exceed
80
percent
of
the
area,
median
that
moderate
income.
There's
no
flexibility
on
that.
H
Now
you
can
layer
funding
into
a
development
that
doesn't
have
all
of
its
units
income
restricted,
though,
and
that's
an
important
thing.
For
example,
you
could
fund
10
units
as
home
units
in
a
a
hundred
unit
building,
I'm
not
saying
that
would
be
a
common
one,
but
I'll
give
you
an
example.
During
the
nsp2
program
we
layered
home
in
with
some
of
our
nsp2
funds
on
rental
housing,
specifically,
the
rental
that
is
targeted
to
households
at
or
below
50
of
area.
Median
with
rental
home
has
some
other
restrictions.
H
When
you
are
doing
rental
housing,
you
have
to
have
a
certain
percentage,
that
is,
for
households
below
sixty
percent
of
area
median
and
some
below
fifty
percent
of
area
median.
You
rarely
start
rental
housing
at
eighty
percent
of
area
median.
So
it's
full
of
additional
layers
of
regulations.
Current
uses
that
are
agreed
on
in
our
con
consolidated
plan
are
rental
units
and
it
could
be,
it
can
be
acquisition.
H
It
can
be
new
construction,
it
can
be
rehab
and
examples
of
new
construction
are
the
current
and
rainy
apartments
and
the
coach
house
at
1930
jackson.
We
do
not
have
ownership
housing
as
a
goal
in
our
consolidated
plan
right
now,
because
all
home
has
to
be
restricted
under
80
of
area
median,
and
it
is
very
difficult
in
our
market
to
have
ownership
housing
for
people
at
that
income
level
doesn't
mean
it
can't
be
done,
but
we
are
not
doing
it
at
the
moment
with
home.
H
We
also
use
home
for
tenant
based
rental
assistance,
which
we
started
doing
in
about
2013.
I
think
it
was,
and
that
was
coming
out
of
the
mortgage
foreclosure
crisis
and
we
had
a
lot
more
people
who
needed
to
be
helped
getting
into
rental
housing.
Our
tenant-based
rental
assistance
program
has
is
not
a
huge
program.
Usually
we
have
about
20
households
with
tibra,
as
it
is
known
subsidies
in
any
given
year,
and
all
of
the
households
are
families
with
children
in
our
evanston
schools.
H
Home
is
handled
kind
of
differently
cdbg,
and
traditionally
we
sort
of
do
big
rounds
of
funding
and
have
allocated
funding
for
our
anticipated
money
and
then
adjusted
to
actual,
but
with
home
we
generally,
we
do
not
allocate
to
individual
projects
or
activities
in
advance.
We
wait
until
we
get
our
money
and
then
we
decide
how
we're
going
to
allocate
it
within
those
within
within
those
activities.
H
One
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
home
is
an
important
source
of
funding,
especially
gaap
funding
or
what
is
often
called
soft
money
in
the
housing
world,
which
is
the
stuff
that
fills
the
gaps,
that
tax
credits,
don't
cover
and
other
sources
of
funding
and
is
generally
really
instrumental
in
getting
projects
done
in
in
our
community.
H
H
H
We
currently
have
two
that
we
work
with
in
evanston.
One
is
community
partners
for
affordable
housing.
The
other
is
housing
opportunity,
development
corporation.
At
one
point,
we
had
five
hud
greatly
greatly
tightened.
The
requirements
for
chotos
15
of
our
funding
is
automatically
reserved
for
chotos
and
it
has
to
be
a
bricks
and
sticks
project.
H
So,
for
example,
the
coach
house
at
1930
jackson
is
using
three
years
of
our
choto
reserve
and
it
is
a
real
challenge
to
figure
out
how
to
use
choto
reserve.
Sometimes
there
have
been
any
number
of
communities
in
the
state
of
illinois
and
throughout
the
country
that
do
not
have
functional
chotos
and
they
end
up
giving
it
back
to
hud.
So
we
have
tried
to
avoid
that
like
the
plague,
we
haven't
done
it
yet,
but
it
it
does
result
in
some
creative
projects
and
those
are
generally
very
small
projects.
H
H
Now
you
can
imagine
how
well
this
goes
over
with
other
funders
when
they
are
hearing
that
somebody
is
saying,
because
of
some
peculiarity
from
hud
rules
that
you
know
a
pj
is
saying
no
we're.
You
know
this
isn't
a
choto
anymore,
so
we're
going
to
transfer
ownership
of
this
project
to
somebody
else
just
doesn't
sit
well
with
funders.
So
that
is
why
choto
projects
are
generally
very
small.
H
Also,
you
cannot
effectively
layer,
choto
reserve
in
with
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits,
for
example,
because
the
choto
has
to
be
the
owning
entity
of
the
property,
and
that
is
not
how
tax
credits
work.
Tax
credits
have
a
separate
owning
entity.
That
is
the
people
who
have
who
are
the
investors,
even
though
it
is
managed
by
the
housing
developer.
H
So
again,
it's
got
a
lot
of
weird
stuff.
10
of
home
can
be
used
for
grant
administration
as
well,
and
it
generally
requires
it
all
right.
So
that's
home
next,
affordable
housing
fund,
technically,
our
affordable
housing
fund
is
restricted
to
the
housing
and
housing
related
needs
of
households
or
people
at
or
below
our
area.
The
area
median.
H
There
was
a
great
deal
of
discussion
at
one
point
about
whether
it
should
be
pushed
up
to
120
to
match
that
middle
income.
That
was
never
done.
That's
something
we
may
want
to
look
at
at
some
point.
We'll
talk
about
that
at
some
other
time.
Not
right
now
I
mean
it's
not
something
we'd
solve
and
determine
the
sources
for
the
affordable
housing
fund
are
these
in
lieu
of
on-site
units,
which
have
been
diminished
dramatically
and
the
demolition
tax.
H
When
any.
Whenever
somebody
tears
down
a
residential
property,
they
have
to
pay
a
demolition
tax,
which
is
was
increased
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
per
unit
or
ten
thousand
per
unit
in
multi-family
there's
a
formula
there
too,
and
it
is
indexed
to
the
consumer
price
index,
so
it
goes
up
or
down
with
the
consumer
price
index.
B
H
Now
there
are
ways
there
are
situations
where
somebody
doesn't
pay
it
as
well.
If
they
are
replacing,
if
they
are
building
affordable
housing
on
the
site
that
meets
our
requirements,
then
they
do
not
pay
the
demolition
tax.
Because
then
all
we're
doing
is
moving
money
around
we're,
costing
them
more
money.
H
So
we
don't
always
get
the
demolition
tax
if
it
is
something
like
the
2211
maple
building,
where
they
tore
down
a
single-family
house,
but
they're
building
a
multi-family
that
will
have
two
affordable
units,
so
we're
getting
more
affordability
than
we
had
before
so
to
penalize
somebody
who's
putting
in
affordable
housing
by
adding
a
demolition
tax
on
top
makes
it
harder
for
us
to
get
our
affordable
units
on
site,
especially
with
small
buildings.
H
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
look
at
in
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
though,
how
do
all
these
things
work
together
because
it
almost
can
be
a
bonus
or
a
benefit
of
putting
affordable
housing
on
site,
if
you
don't
end
up
paying
the
demolition
tax,
so
all
that's.
The
trade-offs
eligible
uses
are
very.
F
So,
just
to
be
clear,
so
we
don't
collect
demo
taxes
at
all
on
commercial
buildings.
Is
there
a
reason?
Why
is
it.
H
Oh,
it
has
never
covered
the
commercial,
and
that
is
something
we
have
to
talk
about.
H
One
of
the
ongoing
problems
is,
we
are
putting
all
the
responsibility
for
helping
fund,
affordable
housing
on
only
residential
properties,
and
that
is
something
that
we
are
proposing
be
looked
at
as
we
update
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
because
we've
in
the
past
raised
some
potential
ways
of
getting.
H
Fees
or
money
for
the
affordable
housing
fund
on
non-covered
development,
both
residential
and
commercial
and
industrial,
and
I
think
that
there's
also
a
way
to
look
at
demolition,
that's
a
little
harder
to
tie
in
and
usually
whenever
you
have
a
tax
or
a
fee
that
is
going
for
a
specific
purpose.
You
have
to
show
enough
of
an
impact
for
that
to
hold
up
legally.
D
H
So
we
use
affordable
housing
fund
for
acquisition,
rehab
new
construction,
whatever
of
affordable
units,
we
use
it
for
housing
services,
and
actually
this
is
an
example
where
it
is
very
valuable
to
us,
for
our
landlord
and
tenant
program
is
an
example,
because
if
you
try
to
income,
qualify
people
when
they're
calling
to
get
help
about
a
a
rental
situation,
you
end
up
driving
people
away
instead
of
helping
them.
They
simply
don't
want
to
give
you
that
information
sometimes-
and
it's
also
pretty
onerous
to
do
so,
but
it's
a
very,
very
valuable
service.
H
So
we
gave
up
trying
to
fund
some
of
these
things
through
cdg
in
the
past,
because
the
compliance
made
it
impossible.
So
that's
the
other
thing
you
get
into
with
with
funding.
Sometimes
the
compliance
makes
things
impossible
or
impractical,
so
we
do
use
the
affordable
housing
fund
for
our
landlord
and
tenant
service,
and
also
for
our
inclusionary
housing,
waitlist
management,
which
would
not
necessarily
be
eligible
for
our
hud
funding
anyway.
H
In
addition,
it
says
in
the
fun
description
that
it
can
be
used
for
homeless,
shelter
and
services
as
well.
So
it
is
very,
very
broad
they're.
One
of
the
things
that
is
frequently
discussed
is:
should
there
be
a
more
formal
process
for
saying
how
much
of
it
gets
spent
on
what
I
think.
That's
something
that
we
need
to
consider
very
carefully,
especially
when
we
don't
have
when
it
isn't
a
very
robust
fund.
There
have
been
cases
where
you
know
you
can
do
something
like
say
well.
H
We
were
one
of
the
keys
to
getting
the
evergreen
project
is
we
are
putting
in
a
combined
two
million
dollars
into
that
project,
which
is
about
a
23
million
dollar
project
in
total,
and
we
literally
didn't
know
how
much
of
our
home
we
would
get
when
we
have
very
complicated
mortgage
agreements
saying
we
can
do
it
could
be
home
funding
from
three
hundred
and
ten
to
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
an
affordable
housing
fund,
the
opposite
to
make
it
up
to
that
two
million
dollars.
H
That
was
the
only
way
we
could
fund
it
with
the
cash
on
hand
we
had
and
with
the
knowledge
of
what
we
would
get
coming
in.
So
it
is
complicated
next
slide.
H
Other
funding,
other
funding
that
we
just
need
to
be
aware
of.
We
already
talked
a
little
bit
about
cdbg,
one
of
the
things
that
cdbgcd
can
be
used
for
as
well
is
homeless,
shelters,
that's
something
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
about.
H
The
cities
need
coming
out
of
covid
arpa
is
also
on
the
plate,
and
even
though
that
doesn't
necessarily
come
to
this
committee,
I
think
the
committee
will
end
up
working
on
some
things
that
will
combine
funding.
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
aware
of
that,
and
we
already
mentioned
the
home
arp,
which
is
the
from
the
additional
money
from
the
recovery
act.
H
External
sources
are
frequently
layered.
We
already
talked
about
home
and
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits,
other
item
funding
like
the
housing
trust
fund.
Sometimes
we
layer
our
home
with
either
state
of
illinois,
home
or
county
home.
We
can
do
collaborative
home
projects
as
they're
called,
and
there
are
other
sources
of
funding
we're.
H
Looking
at
for
housing
needs,
especially
for
rehab
cook,
county
got
a
large
lead
grant
from
hud,
and
we
are
one
of
their
target
areas
to
be
used
for
that
money
to
be
used,
and
we
may
be
able
to
layer
that,
in
with
our
cdbg
rehab
money
and
other
things,
epa,
weatherization
money,
I've
been
talking
with
ceta.
H
H
Its
uses
are
very
relevant
to
the
climate
action
plan
to
carp,
but
as
a
stand-alone
program
it
can
only
do
a
certain
amount
of
rehab,
and
so
what
happens
is
we
have
lead
grants?
We
have
cdbg
housing,
rehab
and
potential
weatherization
funding
that
the
same
house
and
property
could
be
eligible
for,
but
right
now
you
can't
do
any
coordinated
rehab,
which
makes
them
incredibly
inefficient.
As
you
can
imagine,
plus
you
know.
H
The
weatherization
funding
comes
through
dceo,
michelle
mason
cop,
who
used
to
be
here
at
the
city
is
the
legal
counsel
for
dceo.
Maybe
we
can
get
some
help
from
other
people
on
how
to
do
that.
The
state
controls
how
to
do
that
funding
anyway.
Just
some
ideas
next
slide,
so
current
needs
and
challenges.
This
is
not
a
complete
list.
It's
not
in
any
particular
order.
H
It's
a
thought
provoker,
because
our
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
like
very
much
to
do
is
for
the
committee
to
start
thinking
about
its
work
plan
and
what
it
wants
to
have
as
its
focus
overall.
Affordable
housing
is
huge.
We
know
that
that's
a
really
broad
one
rent
and
mortgage
assistance
there's
a
great
need
for
it,
but
there's
a
lot
of
it
out
there
already.
So
I
don't
think
that
would
necessarily
be
the
best
use
of
our
funds
right
now.
H
Expanded
legal
assistance
might
be
something
we
heard
a
lot
last
night
at
the
council
meeting
from
lawyers
committee
for
better
housing
about
the
cook
county
legal
aid
program,
one
of
the
things
that
they
do
not
go
all
do
not
necessarily
guarantee
with
that
program
is
right
to
counsel
they
give
advice,
but
frequently
people
are
still
going
into
court
without
without
a
lawyer
right
at
their
side.
At
that
point
we
have
other
things.
H
H
One
of
the
things
you
can
do
is
you
can
use
cdbg
rehab
to
rehab
a
home
that
is
also
a
home
child
care
center,
for
example.
So
there
are
some
ways
we
could
maybe
help.
People
and
those
are
also
small
businesses,
which
is
another
goal.
So
I
think
there
are
creative
ways
we
may
be
able
to
really
look
at
some
needs
that
we
haven't
addressed
in
the
past.
H
We
mentioned
the
landlord
and
tenant
ordinance
and
hugo.
That
is
one
thing
that
right
now
has
been
combined
with
some
other
things
that
the
new
planning
and
development
subcommittee
will
be
looking
at.
So
we
will
not
be
taking
the
lead
on
that
right
at
the
moment,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
won't
be
pulling
you
in
since
you
know
about
it
to
our
other
work.
H
So
that's
something
that
the
committee
I
don't
see
as
being
immediately
on
on
this
committee's
plate,
as
it
might
have
been
before
and
actually,
as
we
started
out
in
the
housing,
homelessness,
commission,
small
landlord
assistance.
This,
I
think,
is
a
huge
challenge
and
it's
something
we
have
not
addressed.
H
We've
not
been
able
to
address
with
some
of
our
funding,
but
I
think
it
is
critical.
Our
small
landlords
are
really
hurting.
H
We
were
not
allowed
by
hud
to
use
cdbg
cv
to
make
grants
and
loans
to
them
as
small
businesses,
because
all
of
that
money
has
to
show
impact
of
kovid
and
they
said
well,
if
they're
impacted
by
covet,
if
their
tenants
aren't
paying,
then
they
can
get
rent
assistance.
Well,
there
are
some
tenants
who
weren't
impacted
by
covet
and
just
stop
paying
rent,
and
it
has
been
very,
very
harmful
to
some
of
our
small
landlords.
So
we
need
to
look
at
developing
a.
H
Assistance
program
for
rehab
and
other
things,
because
in
fact,
that
is
our
greatest
source
of
affordable,
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing,
which
is
what
noaa
stands
for,
and
it's
something
that
I
really
would
strongly
recommend
that
the
committee
take
on
is
something
that
we
need
to
look
at.
H
We
know
we
have
to
deal
with
what's
going
to
happen
in
terms
of
caring
for
our
homeless
residents
in
the
future,
we
may
want
to
look
more
at
middle
income
housing
that
doesn't
mean
we're
putting
money
against
it.
That
can
also
be
policy
related
into
our
zoning
considerations
and
things
like
that
and,
of
course,
with
cbg.
We
also
have
this
business
need,
and
how
can
we
you
know?
How
can
we
help
low
income?
People
either
get
good
jobs,
or
how
can
we
help
low
and
moderate
income
businesses?
H
So
cdbg
is
really
complicated
when
it
gets
into
certain
areas,
and
that's
you're
going
to
have
to
rely
on
us
to
keep
you
out
of
having
to
learn
the
weeds
on
that.
But
it
is
something
that
gives
us
quite
a
bit
of
flexibility
in
some
cases
next
slide.
So
that
gets
us
to
the
work
plan.
Discussion
idea,
which
I
don't
expect.
We
necessarily
can
try
to
undertake
in
detail
tonight,
although
I'm
certainly
willing
to
stay
on
and
talk
as
long
as
anybody
else
would
like
to.
H
But
I
really
was
thinking
could
be
a
an
important
thing
that
we
could
deal
with
in
our
october
meeting,
because
I
think
it
really
is
important
to
say
what
we
what
we
want
to
put
our
focus
on,
and
it
will
help
us
as
staff
to
be
much
more
efficient
and
then
starting
november.
Even
though
you
have
those
public
hearings
on
the
draft
action
plan
and
stuff
like
that,
that
doesn't
take
up
the
whole
meeting.
I
think
it
gives
us
time
to
do
a
meaningful
other
work
item
along
with
those
public
hearings,
and
things
like
that.
H
So
this
is
a
list
of
a
bunch
of
stuff
shelter.
As
I
said,
the
housing
rehab
program.
How
can
we
help
with
partners
for
places
and
could
that
be
this
weatherization?
And
these
other
trying
to
pull
all
these
funds
different
funds
together?
H
The
inclusionary
housing
ordinance
review
and
update?
That's
in
our
ordinance
that
we
have
to
do
that
in
2022.
So
I
think
that
that's
something
we
very
seriously
need
to
take
on.
We've
talked
about
a
landlord
mitigation
fund.
What
is
a
landlord
mitigation
fund?
The
landlord
mitigation
fund
is
a
fund
that
is
sort
of
like
an
insurance
thing
for
landlords
who
take
higher
risk
tenants.
H
Maybe
it
does
things
like
it
guarantees
some
months
of
rent
if
the
tenant
is
unable
to
pay
or
it
can
guarantee
things
like
help
with
court
cases
if
they
have
to
evict
or
with
repairs.
If
there
are
repairs
from
those
tenants.
These
have
been
proven
to
be
helpful
in
getting
more
landlords
to
be
willing
to
take
higher
risk
tenants,
and
they
don't
necessarily
it's
almost
like
an
insurance
program.
You
don't
necessarily
use,
but
you
do
have
to
set
money
aside
so
that
it
is
available
if
it's
needed.
H
We
also
think
there's
need
to
look
at
things
that
will
help
tenants,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
make
it
challenging,
even
with
the
ceiling
of
records
for
people
who
have
eviction
filings,
but
don't
go
through
eviction
that
was
talked
about
last
night.
There
are
a
lot
of
tenants
who
have
credit
challenges
and
things
like
that,
and-
and
I
think
that
helping
looking
at
ways
to
help
tenants,
develop
or
repair
credit
is
something
we
should
also
consider
at
some
point.
Interestingly
enough,
we've
changed
our
committee
structures.
H
So
often
at
one
point
we
actually
had
a
human
rights
committee
here
at
the
city.
It
was
a
commission
sorry,
but
we
do
not
at
this
point,
have
a
formal
place
where,
if
somebody
wants
to
go
it
like
goes
to
our
website
and
says
I
I
think
I
was
discriminated
against.
How
do
I
find
somebody
at
the
city
of
evanston
to
help
me
you're
not
going
to
get
a
place
to
handle
that,
and
I
honestly
think
we
should
have,
and
it
shouldn't
be
a
committee
necessarily.
H
We
had
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
an
assessment
of
fair
housing,
along
with
coke
county
that
was
put
on
hold
during
the
prior
administration,
who
was
doing
away
with
the
need
to
do
anything
with
fair
housing,
and
we
need
to
see
how
the
biden
administration
is
going
to
bring
that
back
and
what
our
responsibilities
are.
But
that
is
another
thing
that
goes
along
with
our
hud
grants.
H
H
We
would
hope
that
people
would
have
the
opportunity
to
review
the
current
2021
action
plan
before
our
next
meeting
so
that
as
we
get
into
that
whole
planning
cycle,
you
kind
of
know
what
you're
looking
at
like.
What
is
this,
and
also
on
october
19?
We
would
like
to
have
nominations
in
advance
for
vice
chair,
so
that
we
can
vote
on
that
at
that
meeting
and
those
are
the
I
mean,
we're
still
kind
of
in
the
organ
getting
organized
and
understanding
responsibilities.
H
Obviously,
staff
will
bring
back
the
revisions
to
the
administrative
rules
and
procedures,
but
chair
revell.
I
should
probably
let
you
do
more
of
this
part
of
it
like.
What
do
you
want
your
committee
members
to
do
coming
into
our
next
meeting.
A
Right
well,
why
don't
we
just
see
if
anybody
has
any
questions
or
comments
about
all
the
various
programs
that
sarah
described
for
us?
Any
clarification
that
anybody
needs
for
all
that
information
that
yes,
lauren.
G
H
A
B
I'll
just
say
that
I'm
drinking
from
a
fire
hose
at
this
point
so
stand
by
for
a
bunch
of
ignorant
questions
as
we
can,
as
we
continue
our
work
right
over
the
next
few
months,
at
least.
A
Yeah
yeah,
no,
it's
it's
a
big
big
set
of
issues
and
challenges
for
us.
Yeah.
H
Well,
we
haven't
awarded
a
lot
of
our
funds
to
tell
you
the
truth
because,
but
we
can
certainly
put
together
what
our
what
funds
we've
awarded.
One
of
the
things
that's
interesting
is
the
largest
number
of
actual
awards
are
done
with
cdbg
social
services
and
that's
the
part
that
was
that's
the
other
committee
that
you're
on
councilmember
burns.
H
So
that's
something
you'll
hear
more
about
in
that
committee,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
felt
is
there
is
certainly
a
lot
of
crossover
in
many
ways
between
social
services
and
the
built
environment.
But
in
the
past
we
were
allocating
funding
by
funding
source,
not
by
need
or
the
type
of
use.
So
it
really
wasn't
very
strategic
and
was
sometimes
counterproductive,
because
we
would
have
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee
looking
at
one
thing:
housing
related
and
housing
and
homelessness.
Commission
looking
at
a
similar
thing
and
not
coordinated.
H
So
that's
why
this
whole
structure
was
recommended.
So
it
gives
this
committee
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
things
to
oversee,
but
I
do
think
that
it
will
be
a
more
effective.
It
will
help
the
city
make
better
use
of
our
funding.
That's
what
I
really
am
hoping.
J
So
do
we
have,
it
would.
J
To
look
to
how
we've
used
some
of
these
funds
before?
Are
we
starting
with
a
clean
slate
saying,
hey,
we've
restructured
the
committees
and
we
have
you
know
a
new,
a
slightly
new
charge
on
how
we
want
to
think
about
how
we
use
cdbg
funds
and
home
funds.
Are
we
starting
from
a
clean
slater?
So
we
look
to
how
some
of
the
funds.
H
I
think
it's
important
that
we
show
you
how
it's
been
used
in
the
past,
and
part
of
that
is
because
we
do
have
this
five-year
consolidated
plan
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
amend
it
and
change
it,
but
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
it,
because
that
was
developed
with
quite
a
lot
of
research
and
outreach
in
the
community,
and
we
can
actually
I
I
mean
we
did
a
lot
of
presentations
on
that
to
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee
at
the
time.
H
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
the
best
use
of
the
committee's
time
to
bring
that
back
to
that
level,
but
we
can
certainly
it
has
helped
inform
how
we're
making
decisions.
The
built
environment
has
a
lot
of
limitations,
for
example,
anything
where
we
are
doing
this
area
benefit
where
it's
a
primarily
low
and
moderate
income.
H
Neighborhood
is
completely
driven
by
how
american
community
survey
results
come
in
at
the
time,
because
that's
that
decides,
your
ward
has
the
greatest
amount
of
areas
that
we
can
do
things
like
alley,
paving
and
sidewalk
replacement,
and
things
like
that
council
member
burns.
That
doesn't
mean
it's
the
only
ward,
but
we
are
kind
of
restricted
in
what
we
can
do
with
some
of
the
funds.
H
So
it's
not
like
there's
nothing
that
is
a
complete
clean
slate
with
hud
funds
because
of
the
number
of
regulations,
and
so,
but
what
I
would
love
to
hear
is
ideas,
because
what
I
see
staff's
responsibility
is
to
see
if
we
hear
something
that
needs
to
be
done,
then
it's
up
to
us
to
see
if
we
can
figure
out
if
our
federal
funds
can
be
used
for
it.
Does
that
make
sense.
J
Yeah,
it
does
a
couple
other
questions,
so
is
mto
funded
from
home
funds.
H
That
that
is
funded
from
the
affordable
housing
fund.
J
What
about
housing,
okay
and
what
else
we
had
and
then,
if
you
could
go
there
was
there
was
a
there
was
one.
J
I
J
So
I'm
just
trying
to
get
greater
clarity
on
so
the
okay,
the
left
side
of
it,
so
the
5
20
5
22
under
2021
draft
action
plan
who
establishes
that
number
is
that
us
saying
what
we
think
we're
going
to
get
from
the
federal
government
for
that
we
can
use
for
affordable
housing
or
what
are
we?
How
do?
How
is
this
number
developed.
H
These
numbers
are
staff
estimates
what
we
think
our
grant
will
be,
and
then
we
look
at
our
con
plan.
Goals
are
consolidated
plan
goals
and
we,
we
have
agreed
in
the
past,
with
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee,
that
this
is
why
these
average,
how
funding
was
allocated
in
the
prior
con
plan
year
and
then
how
higher
excuse
me
prior
con
plan
period
and
then
our
2020
actual
allocations
were
used
to
develop
the
draft
action
plan
for
2021.
H
That
is
based
really
on
a
percentage
of
funding
and
the
relevant
emphasis
on
those
goals
in
the
consolidated
plan.
H
And
so
what
we
did
is
staff
made
a
recommendation,
and
this
is
for
the
draft
plan
only
because
we
have
to
get
that
draft
plan
posted
and
have
the
public
comment
period
and
then
closed
before
the
first
of
the
year.
Technically,
if
we
wanted
to
change
dramatically
from
that,
we
could.
H
We
would
have
to
have
another
public
comment
period
because
it
would,
if
we
change
the
funding
for
any
goal
by
more
than
20
percent,
or
if
we
add
or
subtract
a
goal.
We
have
to
do
a
second
public
comment
period.
All
of
those
things
can
be
done.
We
haven't
done
them
very
often,
because
the
goal
is
to
try
to
keep
from
doing
that.
There's
quite
a
bit
of
flexibility
within
the
goals
on
how
you
can
spend
the
money
within
them
too.
So
it
doesn't
really
lock
in
that
much.
J
Yeah,
I'm
thinking,
let's
be
clear.
The
percentage
of
total
is
not
determined
by
the
funder
that
we
did.
We
determined
that
we
say
we
want
to
use
30
of
the
total
on
affordable
housing,
for
example,
and
we
just
need
to
establish
that
notice.
The
public
allow
them
a
period
to
comment
on
it,
but
from
the
federal
government
standpoint
they
just
say
all
right,
you're
a
warrior.
I
don't
know
if
it's
1.6
million
and
1.7
I
can't
tell-
but
am
I
understanding
that
correctly.
H
Yes,
yes,
but
but
in
our
consolidated
plan,
because
we
have
priority
goals.
If
we
change
the
funding
by
too
much
from
those
priorities,
then
we
have
to
amend
our
consolidated
plan.
There
are
some
areas
that
you
cannot
spend
more
than
a
specific
amount.
Public
services
can
be
no
more
than
15
of
the
current
year
grant,
plus
prior
year
programming
income
we'll
get
into
that
at
some
other
point.
So
that
is
a
capped
category.
H
The
other
categories
are
not
capped
by
hud,
except
for
administration,
which
is
capped
at
20.
So,
but
we
have
the
authority
to
say
how
much
we
spend
on
housing,
how
much
we
spend
on
homeless,
how
much
we
spend
on
livable
communities.
I
I
don't
recommend
that
we
change
the
names
of
the
goal.
That
would
be
an
awful
lot
of
work,
but
we
can
change
the
amount
of
funding.
J
And
then
one
last
comment,
I
would
just
say
I
think
the
landlord
mitigation
fund,
I
think
something
to
support
our
smaller
landlords
makes
a
ton
of
sense,
especially
because
I
think
we
heard
that
yesterday
that
they're
not
going
to
have
there's
going
to
be.
How
did
they
say
around
the
credit
checks?
J
Credit
checks
are
going
to
be
sealed,
I
think,
is
the
term
they
use
and
there's
a
lot
of
protections
rightfully
so
for
tenants
right
now,
right.
J
H
J
And
but
I
think
to
to
balance
it
out
appropriately,
we
also
need
to
have
protections
in
particular
for
our
smaller
than
mid-sized
landlords.
So
I
just
wanted
to
also
comment
to
say.
I
think
I
think
it
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense
to
look
at
landlord
mitigation
funds
and
anything
that
can
help
our
landlords
who
who
who
who
are
in
situations
where
the
tenant
is
unable
to
pay.
But
as
you,
you
stated,
the
hardship
isn't
necessarily
covert
related.
H
A
And
so
sarah
you
talked
earlier
with
me
about
you
know
really
needing
a
small
landlord
task
force,
perhaps
because
there
are
a
number
of
really
important
issues
that
it'd
be
really
good.
If
this
committee
could
address.
H
That
will
be
very
helpful
and
they're
going
to
be
like
not
so
much
so
I
I
think
that
that
is
important,
that
that
they
be
heard
and
one
of
the
challenges
we
will
potentially
run
into
is
we
may
have
to
fund
some
of
these
things
with
the
affordable
housing
fund.
Simply
because
sometimes
we
get
stuck
with
our
federal
funds.
We
try
to
use
the
federal
funds
first,
but
sometimes
we
have
to
use
the
more
flexible
local
funds.
A
Right
right,
yep,
so
lauren,
you
still
have
your
hand
up
is.
G
Know
it
would
run
quite
so
long
tonight.
It
sounds
to
me
if
I'm
understanding
correctly,
so
I
have
a
twofold
question.
G
It
sounds
to
me
like
the
consolidated
plan
for
2021
is
essentially
a
map
of
how,
based
on
what
was
understood
at
the
time
that
the
plan
was
crafted
some
of
the
needs
and
priorities,
those
people,
and
so
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
our
work
is
going
to
be
within
the
framework
of
the
consolidated
plan
that
was
done
before
us
and
that
you
all
invested
a
lot
of
time
in
getting
previous
members
of
previous
committees
to
understand
it.
G
It
might
make
sense,
prior
to
the
october
meeting,
to
have
an
optional
meeting
where
you
all
just
sort
of
walk
through,
and
we
can
limit
it
if
people
are
concerned
about
length,
but
the
reasoning
behind
the
plan,
because
I
think
that
it,
it
might
be
hard
for
us
to
understand
how
to
move
forward.
For
those.
B
G
Us
who
were
not
involved
in
the
work
of
crafting
the
plan
it
might
be
hard
to
to
move
forward
without
fully
understanding
the
context
of
the
plan,
and
so
if
people
have
the
time
and
interest,
I
think
I
would
for
one
appreciate
sort
of
okay.
Here's
here's!
What's
not
in
the
plan
that
might
help
you
to
understand.
How
we
came
to
this
here
are
the
constraints
we're
working.
I
H
And
that
does
make
sense,
because
it
is
this
five-year
plan
and
as
we
say
so,
this
is
for
2020
21,
22,
23
24
and
that's
the
period
that
this
con
plan
covers,
and
it
doesn't
mean
it
can't
be
amended.
But
you're
right
there
has
to
be.
A
kind
of
this
is
how
we
got
there
and
why
and
we
could
do
a
presentation
or
a
discussion
with
anyone
who
wants
to
be
involved
in
that
before
the
next.
G
We
just
I
think
it
just
might
help.
Also,
personally,
I
think
if
we
can
prevent
reinventing
the
wheel,
is
I
mean
it
sounds
like
there
was
a
lot
of
thought
put
into
this
in
that,
instead
of
assuming
there
might
be
a
need
to
change
it.
Maybe
we
start
by
understanding
it
and
sort
of,
because
I
don't
know,
I
just
think
that
might
that
would
help
me.
H
Another
possibility
might
actually
be-
and
I
can
look
at
this-
we
did
a
very
detailed
presentation
to
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee
at
that
time,
but
it
could
probably
be
simplified
and
maybe
that
could
be
actually
a
part
of
the
meeting
on
the
19th.
I
just
don't
know
what.
H
I
don't
think
it
was
recorded
because
nothing
was
done.
Okay.
Well,
maybe
it
was,
it
might
have
been
I'll
have
to
check
that.
I
don't
think
it
was,
though,
because
normally
the
only
community,
the
hcda
meetings
that
were
recorded
were
the
application,
review
meetings
and
the
funding
night
meetings.
So,
but
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point,
or
there
might
even
be
some
summaries
we'll
look
into
that
because
you're
right
it
did,
it
is
a
pretty
intensive
process
and
one
of
the
things
we
did
was.
B
H
Respond
when
we
throw
something
up
on
the
website
or
advertise
it
in
our,
you
know
in
our
newsletter,
so
yeah.
A
G
H
H
A
No,
I
I
understand
I
understand
right,
but
it's
it
sounds
like
it
might
be
helpful
to
get
people
up
to
speed
and
absolutely
it's
a
big,
complicated
document.
Yeah
so
should
can
you
email
us
this
presentation,
so
people
can
go
back
and
and
review
the
details
of
of
what
you.
H
A
Sure,
no
because
if,
if
next
time,
we're
supposed
to
talk
about
the
work
plan,
it'd
be
good
to
know
all
the
different
subjects
that
you've
you
know
suggested
anyway
and
come
up
with
some
more
so
any
we
are
getting
close
to
nine
o'clock.
Does
anybody
have
any
other
burning
questions
or
comments
before
we
wrap
it
up.
J
I
would
say
the
my
only
thing
is:
I'm
just
quickly
touching
on
the
housing
discrimination
piece.
I've
opened
up
a
conversation
with
council
nicholas
cummins
about
what
the
city
can
enforce
in
relation
to
our
fair
housing.
You
know
code
and
I'm
not
anywhere
closer
to
understanding
that.
So
I
think
at
a
at
a
future
meeting.
Maybe
we
can
pull
him
in
and
and
and
and
see
what
type
of
cases
that
we
can
take
up
as
a
city
to
protect
our
residents
who
are
facing
housing
discrimination
and
which
ones.
A
Okay,
so
I
guess
so
sarah
and
I
will
follow
up
with
everybody,
about
the
2021
action
plan
and
any
you
know,
perhaps
as
an
optional
special
meeting
in
between
now
and
then
our
next
meeting
just
to
go
over
that
and
sarah
is
going
to
send
us
some
potential
revisions
of
our
rules
and
regulations,
and
we
all
will
review
the
all
of
the
presentation
that
you
gave
us
this
evening
and
and
then
come
prepared
next
time
to
talk
about
in
more
detail
about
the
work
plan
and
get
ready
for.
A
C
It's
a
it's
a
looks
like
we
have
a
public
comment,
that's
what
I
mean
yeah!
Yes,
so
are
we
okay
to
do
public
comment
outside
of
the
public
comment
period?
Is
that
closed
already.
K
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
say
something
I
was
in
the
emergency
room
last
night,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
make
the
very
important
meeting
from
yesterday
so
I'll
have
to
watch.
K
I
did
want
to
say
yes
that
I
hope
you
will
include
small
landlords,
because
we
have
a
lot
to
say
and
yes,
we
were
beat
up
very
badly
during
this
last
year
and
a
half,
and
I
I
would
be
volunteering
to
be
one
of
those
landlords,
there's
very
few
of
us
now
that
provide
affordable
housing
and
I
hope
that
we
can
come
to
some
conclusion
that
would
help
us.
Also.
I
did
have
a
question.
K
I
don't
know
if
sarah
you
can
answer
whatever
happened
to
the
project
on
chicago
avenue
and
howard
street,
the
2
million
dollars
was
that
given
to
the
person-
and
it
doesn't
look
like
anything-
is
being
accomplished-
it's
supposed
to
be
a
26
or
28
unit,
building
with
four
affordable
units
at
chicago
avenue
and
howard
street,
and
I
know
that
he
was
supposed
to
receive
two
million
dollars
and
whatever
happened
to
that,
because
I
don't
see
any
movement.
H
Tina,
I
can
give
you
some
information
on
that.
I
know
it
was
approved.
The
pd
was
approved,
but
I
don't
know
when
it's
moving
forward
they're,
not
getting
money
from
any
of
the
sources
that
my
group
manages.
I
believe
there
was
some
tip
in
there
and
there
was
also
a
land
purchase
deal
that
had
to
do
with
the
city
parking
lot.
So
I'm
not
super
knowledgeable
about
that,
but
I
can
try
to
look
into
that
and
see
what
its
status
is.
F
And,
as
the
eighth
ward
alderman,
I
can
just
very
quickly
it's
unrelated
to
our
group,
but
just
chime
in
and
say
that
building
is
certainly
going
up
and
it'll
be.
There's,
there's
a
lot
of
movement
going
on
now.
If
you
drive
by,
if
you've,
driven
by
in
the
last
few
weeks,
you'll
see
a
lot
of
progress
and
they'll
be
done
in
june.
H
B
H
A
Right,
absolutely,
okay
and
tina
for
sure
we
will
be
in
touch
with
you.
You
know,
as
we
want
to
have
these
further
conversations
about
landlord
assistance
programs
and
such.
K
Okay,
thank
you
because
we're
needed
a
lot
and
if
you
want
to
keep
the
naturally
affordable
housing,
we
we
need
the
help
right
away.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
I
think
I
can
just
declare
us
adjourned,
so
thank
you
all
very
much
you'll
be
hearing
from
sarah
in
between
now
and
our
next
meeting,
with
the
possibility
of
a
sort
of
optional
special
meeting
and
lots
of
more
information.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
next
time.
Thank.