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Understanding ADUs in Evanston
A
Hello,
everyone
and
welcome.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
tonight.
We
are
going
to
be
walking
you
through
an
exciting
new
resource.
The
guidebook
on
accessory
dwelling
units
or
adus
in
evanston,
which
was
just
launched.
This
webinar
and
the
associated
guidebook
were
produced
in
collaboration
between
the
city
of
evanston
and
the
evanston
development,
cooperative
or
edc,
and
are
designed
to
serve
as
resources
for
folks
who
are
interested
in
potentially
pursuing
the
development
of
an
edu
on
your
property.
A
So
we're
going
to
spend
this
hour
going
into
detail
about
what
you
can
find
in
the
guidebook,
but
don't
worry
about
memorizing
anything
today.
We're
recording
this
webinar
and
we'll
be
posting
it
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel,
and
the
guidebook
is
available
both
on
the
city
website
and
edc's
website.
For
you
to
peruse
on
your
own
time.
A
Let
you
know
where
you
can
find
this
resource
and
the
recording,
and
then
we
will
open
things
up
to
you
all
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
so
throughout
the
presentation.
If
you
have
a
question,
feel
free
to
use
the
q
a
function
and
submit
your
question
there
and
we
will
get
to
them
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
A
Before
we
dive
in
we're
going
to
just
take
a
a
minute
to
introduce
ourselves
like
I
said
this,
this
guidebook
and
webinar
were
developed
through
a
partnership
between
the
city
of
evanston
and
edc.
My
name
is
megan
gupson,
I'm
a
housing
and
economic
development
analyst
with
the
city
and
I'm
joined
today
by
robbie,
marcus
robbie.
Do
you
want
to
quickly
introduce
yourself
sure.
B
Hi
there
everyone
good
evening,
thank
you
for
joining
us.
My
name
is
robbie
marcus,
I'm
a
vice
president
and
worker
owner
of
the
evanston
development
cooperative,
edc
designs
and
builds
energy,
efficient
housing
for
evanston
homeowners
and
residents,
with
a
focus
on
accessory
dwelling
units
with
organizational
commitments
to
housing,
affordability
and
inclusive
and
democratic
economy
and
racial
justice.
A
Great
thanks
robbie.
So,
let's
get
started.
What
is
an
adu?
An
accessory
dwelling
unit
is
a
small,
independent
housing
unit
on
the
same
lot
as
a
standard
size.
Residence
with
a
kitchen,
bathroom
and
areas
for
living
and
sleeping
adus
can
be
either
attached
or
detached
from
your
primary
residence
and
can
be
either
converted
within
an
existing
structure
or
completely
new
construction.
A
You
might
have
heard
the
term
coach
house
or
carriage
house.
We
just
want
to
point
out,
as
we
go
into
this,
that
these
are
types
of
adus.
So
when
you
hear
those
terms,
you
know
what
we're
talking
about
and
before
we
move
on.
I
want
to
briefly
highlight
here
that
the
city,
you
know
the
city
really
sees
adus
as
one
approach
to
keeping
up
with
the
communities
changing
housing
needs,
and
in
that
spirit
we
are
continuing
to
update
regulations,
to
increase
the
flexibility
and
ease
involved
in
developing
an
adu
on
your
property.
A
So
the
most
recent
regulation
update
I
want
to
highlight
is
that,
as
of
september
2020,
the
definition
of
an
adu
now
includes
internal
and
attached
adus
and
detached
structures
that
do
not
have
parking
spaces
which
is
really
exciting
and
and
makes
things
easier
than
ever.
For
folks
who
are
interested
in
developing
an
adu.
A
So
tonight's
webinar
and
the
guidebook
itself
can
serve
as
the
first
step
in
figuring
out
how
to
move
forward
with
the
investment
to
build
an
adu.
It
will
cover
zoning
rules,
building
codes,
utility
requirements
and
will
hopefully
help
you
determine
which
option
is
right
for
you
and
your
family
next
slide,
please.
A
So
why
consider
an
adu
adus
are
versatile
and
flexible.
They
are
able
to
serve
you
and
your
family
in
a
variety
of
different
capacities
over
long
periods
of
time,
so
by
building
an
adu
on
your
property,
you're
you're,
also
helping
your
community
address
housing
shortage.
We
see
this
as
a
win-win,
where
what's
good
for
you
and
your
family
is
also
good
for
your
community.
A
A
There
are
these
main,
these
five
main
types
and
as
we
look
through
these
just
keep
in
mind
that
just
to
decipher
the
legend
for
you,
the
adu
is
represented
by
the
little
white
graphic
with
the
large
blue
house,
denoting
your
primary
residence
and
the
smaller
blue
building
is
your
existing
garage,
and
this
this
bear
is
just
quick
repeating.
It
might
be
helpful
to
keep
in
mind,
as
we
run
through
these
different
types,
that
for
all
of
these
options,
you
need
to
maintain
or
replace
the
existing
parking
on
your
property.
A
Okay,
so
the
first
type
we're
going
to
discuss
tonight
is
the
detached
adu.
These
are
independent
from
your
primary
residence,
so
they
are
separate
structures
without
parking.
They
have
to
be
less
than
a
thousand
square
feet
of
livable
space
smaller
than
your
primary
residence,
and
they
can
be
up
to
two
stories.
A
Tall
detached
adus
are
most
often
used
for
aging
parents,
who
maybe
want
a
place
where
the
master
bedroom
is
on
the
ground
floor,
so
that
stairs
aren't
an
issue
or
simply
for
folks
who
want
to
downsize,
and
it's
these
are
really
great
for
if
you
want
privacy
or
separation
from
the
main
residence
or
maybe
have
some
extra
space
on
your
property
next
slide.
A
Great.
The
next
type
is
a
garage
conversion
which
is
a
rehabilitation
of
your
existing
garage
into
a
livable
space.
So
this
new
dwelling
unit
has
to
have
at
least
one
exterior
door
that
meets
egress
requirements.
It
has
to
meet
all
building
energy
fire
code
requirements
such
as
minimum
insulation
standards,
which
your
garage
might
not
necessarily
be
equipped
with.
As
of
right.
Now
these
types
of
adus
are
often
used
for
home
businesses
or
home
offices,
as
we're
all
seeing
is
helpful
in
a
pandemic
best.
A
This
next
type
of
adu
is
an
attached
adu
attached
to
your
main
house,
so
this
could
be
a
one
or
two
story.
Addition
to
your
main
residence
and
again
has
to
be
less
than
less
than
a
thousand
square
feet
of
livable
space
and
smaller
than
the
primary
residence
attached.
Adus
can't
exceed
the
height
allowed
in
your
underlying
zoning
district.
A
We
see
these
really
often
being
used
for
adult
children,
home
businesses
and
they're
really
great.
If
you
don't
want
to
alter
or
tear
down
your
existing
garage
or
if
you
don't
have
a
space
to
convert
inside
your
main
residence,
okay
next
slide
a
garage
attached
adu
is
an
existing,
an
addition
to
your
existing
garage,
exactly
what
it
sounds
like.
So
this
edition
can
be
one
or
two
stories
it
can
be
either
adjacent
to
or
on
top
of,
your
existing
garage.
A
This
type
of
adu
has
to
be
again
less
than
a
thousand
square
feet
of
livable
space,
not
ex
not
not,
including
existing
garage.
Excuse
me,
and
we
often
see
these
for
again
aging
parents
for
downsizing
and
they're
really
great
again,
if
you
want
privacy
or
separation
from
the
main
residence,
if
you
don't
want
to
tear
down
your
existing
garage,
if
you
have
space
next
to
your
existing
garage
or
if
you
want
to
preserve
backyard
space
by
building
above
your
garage
and
saving
some
space
in
that
way,
just
a
quick
tip
on
this
one.
A
If
you
are
considering
creating
an
adu
over
your
garage,
it's
worth
speaking
with
a
professional
about
your
existing
concrete
foundation
because,
based
on
the
structural
strength
of
the
foundation,
that's
existing
in
your
garage.
You
may
need
to
tear
down
the
entire
thing
and
build
a
new
two-story
structure
which
of
course
would
have
implications
on
project
cost
and
timeline,
so
something
to
keep
in
mind
next
slide.
A
A
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
pause
here
and
remind
folks
that
if
you
have
any
questions,
feel
free
to
submit
them
using
the
q
a
function
and
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
once
we
get
to
that
section
of
the
presentation.
But
for
now
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
robbie.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
megan,
so
getting
into
some
of
the
more
technical
zoning
regulations
that
affect
what
you
can
actually
build
on
your
property.
What
I'm
going
to
start
with
are
zoning
districts.
Those
are
really
the
biggest
factor.
There
are
six
residential
zoning
districts
in
evanston
as
you'll
see
here,
ranging
from
r1
to
r6.
B
So
building
lot
coverage
is
the
percentage
of
your
property
taken
up
by
buildings
and
impervious
surface.
Is
the
percentage
taken
up
by
hard
surfaces,
so
that
includes
rooftops,
but
that
also
includes
brick,
asphalt
or
concrete
pavement
or
driveway
and
impervious
surface
regulation
helps
ensure
that
there
is
appropriate
storm
water
runoff
to
have
enough
green
space
to
soak
up
water
and
mitigate
the
risk
of
urban
flooding.
B
Lastly,
I'm
going
to
flag
it
now
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
it
later
on,
but
historic
districts
and
landmark
properties
will
also
affect
what
you
can
build
in
evanston.
It's
important
to
know
if
your
property
is
in
a
historic
district
or
if
your
property
is
landmarked,
you
can
look
up
both
of
these.
Your
your
zoning
district
and
whether
you're
in
a
historic
district
through
evanston311
my
place,
a
quick
google
search
with
that
term
on
the
slide
evanston311
about
my
place
should
help.
You
find
this
free
city
of
evanston
tool.
B
B
B
So
if
you
were
to
you,
know,
add
on
to
your
existing
house
and
that
attached
adu
would
be
connected
to
your
main
house.
Then
your
primary
residence
with
your
attached
adu,
say
for
r1
to
r3
districts
would
need
to
be
27
feet
from
the
front
yard.
Lot
line,
15
feet
from
the
street
side
yard
lot
line,
5
feet
from
an
interior
yard,
lot
line
and
30
feet
from
the
rear
yard
lot
line,
transitioning
to
anything,
that's
accessory
in
the
backyard,
a
garage
attachment,
a
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit
or
a
garage
conversion.
B
I
chopped
out
the
section
of
the
setbacks,
regulations
that
apply
to
these
structures,
so
the
accessory
structure,
setbacks
for
rear
yards
apply
here.
So
in
these
cases
the
adu
has
to
be
three
feet
from
all
side
and
rear
property
lines
and
if
you're,
on
a
corner
lot,
there
are
some
exceptions,
but
your
structure
also
has
to
be
10
feet
from
the
primary
residence.
B
B
If
you
have
more
questions
about
setbacks,
people
often
do
the
q
a
is
a
good
time
to
bring
those
up
transitioning
into
costs
when
aiming
to
try
to
figure
out
how
much
your
adu
will
cost.
The
short
answer
is
that
it
really
depends
on
the
project
you
have
in
mind.
There
are
a
number
of
factors
that
affect
the
price
of
construction
and
there
is
a
detailed
breakdown
which
you
can
see
here
in
this
slide
in
the
guidebook
of
potential
expenses.
B
You
can
think
about
in
terms
of
working
within
your
existing
infrastructure.
So
maybe
some
of
those
items
that
are
necessary
for
new
construction
may
already
be
in
the
building
footprint,
if
you're
doing
a
conversion
or
a
rehab,
with
a
new
dwelling
structure
in
evanston.
One
of
the
reasons
that
the
cost
can
be
higher
for
those
is
that
you
need
to
add
a
fire
sprinkler
suppression
system
for
new
dwelling
structures
in
evanston.
B
Moving
on
one
story,
structures
tend
to
cost
less
than
two-story
structures.
One
reason
for
this,
which
we're
happy
to
explain
further
in
the
q,
a
is
that
you
may
not
need
the
same
type
of
foundation,
depth
for
a
one-story
structure
when
compared
to
a
two-story
structure
and
another
example
of
how
one
and
two
stories
can
affect
cost
is,
in
addition
to
the
cost
of
appropriate
structural
systems
for
two-story
structures.
B
We've
run
into
projects
where
we
need
to
relocate
the
electric
lines
on
one
side
of
the
property
in
order
to
meet
separation
requirements
between
a
two-story,
adu
and
power
lines.
We
also
have
smaller
one-story
adu
projects
that
don't
set
off
these
types
of
issues
and
don't
include,
don't
have
that
cost.
B
So
the
last
and
probably
most
important
thing
to
communicate
on
this
slide
is
that
it's
really
valuable
to
figure
out
and
communicate
as
megan
said,
both
your
criteria
for
your
project
and
your
budget
early
on
and
communicate
this
to
a
trusted
professional.
B
It's
smart
to
ask
questions
early
on
about
how
certain
changes
to
the
project
or
the
scope
of
design
would
affect
the
budget
as
that
can
help.
You
decide
whether
you
want
to
proceed
with
a
certain
feature
or
layout
for
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
the
design
phase
is
really
the
right
time
to
figure
those
things
out.
Ideally,
you
want
to
collaborate
to
arrive
at
a
project
that
fits
both
your
living
needs
and
your
budget,
so
then
transitioning
into
financing
because
of
the
cost
of
the
unit.
B
B
B
So
when
determining
the
loan,
the
lender
actually
looks
at
your
architect's
adu
permit,
set
and
assesses
the
value
of
your
property
after
construction
of
the
adu,
which
can
affect
how
much
you
can
borrow
for
borrowers
with
less
existing
equity
in
your
house.
The
renovation
mortgage
can
sometimes
be
the
best
way
to
access
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
B
So
then,
transitioning
into
the
process
for
a
property
owner
or
a
homeowner
of
building
an
adu.
The
first
thing
I
want
to
note
here
is
the
importance
of
figuring
out
your
criteria
for
early
on
just
getting
all
of
the
stakeholders
involved
in
the
project
at
the
same
table
to
think
through.
B
B
If
you
think
it'll
be
necessary
to
secure
financing,
it
can
be
good
to
start
that
process
early.
We
found
that
loan
applications,
especially,
and
it
does
depend
on
the
loan
product,
can
take
time
and
have
sometimes
delayed
architecture
work.
B
It
makes
sense
that
people
don't
want
to
pay
an
architect
for
full
design
plans
until
you
really
know
that
you
can
afford
this
project,
and
so
then
it
also
makes
sense
to
start
thinking
about
the
financing
early
on,
as
you
start
design,
it's
valuable
to
be
specific
and
precise
about
your
living
needs
and
the
purpose
of
your
unit.
B
In
addition
to
seeing
and
reviewing
architectural
drawings,
you
may
want
to
ask
your
architect
to
put
down
your
key
criteria
in
writing.
We've
done
this
on
our
projects
and
have
found
value
in
having
everyone
agree
on
paper
on
what
the
end
result
of
the
project
should
be,
and
then,
after
you
receive
a
building,
permit
you
break
ground
on
construction.
B
The
timeline
for
construction
really
depends
on
the
unit
and
whether
there
are
any
atypical
or
irregular
construction
methods
or
materials
being
used.
If
there
are
any
items
that
require
a
long
time
to
get
shipped
to
the
project
site,
but
a
ballpark
range
is
between
three
to
six
months
and
then
once
the
unit
is
done,
you
can
enjoy
your
new
accessory
dwelling
unit.
B
If
that's
the
case,
you
apply
for
a
zoning
analysis
and
hopefully
the
project
is
determined
to
be
compliant
with
the
zoning
code
and
here
coming
back
to
historic
districts
or
landmark
properties.
If
your
property
is
in
historic
district,
for
example,
you
would
need
to
retain
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
from
the
city's
preservation
commission.
B
This
can
add
months
to
your
project,
so
it's
important
to
plan
for
it
ahead
of
time
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
flag
it
right
when
you
can
realize
it
from
there,
you
apply
for
and
ideally
receive
a
building
permit.
The
timeline
for
a
building
permit
turnaround
depends
greatly
on
the
season.
B
If
you
apply
in
the
winter,
you
will
likely
hear
back
more
quickly
than
an
application
for
building
permit
in
the
summer.
Once
construction
starts,
there
should
be
inspections
by
the
city
of
evanston
for
electrical
plumbing
and
other
work.
Once
your
project's
done,
you
apply
for
a
certificate
of
occupancy
and
make
the
most
of
your
new
home.
B
Speaking
of
the
guide,
there
are
several
topics
and
best
practices
for
adus
which
were
not
covered
in
this
evening's
webinar
that
are
in
the
guidebook.
Our
team
has
been
building
this
comprehensive
20-page
document
specific
to
evanston's
adu
code
for
most
of
2021
and
we're
excited
to
release
it
to
the
public
this
week.
B
It
is
currently
on
the
city
of
evanston's
website
on
its
accessory
dwelling
unit
page
linked
here,
and
it
will
also
be
on
edc's
website
shortly.
Additionally,
edc
will
share
it
on
social
media
via
facebook
and
twitter.
In
the
next
24
hours
and
a
copy
of
this
webinar
will
also
be
posted
on
both
the
city
and
edc's
youtube
channels.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
robbie,
so
yeah.
As
a
reminder,
a
recording
of
this
webinar
is
going
to
be
posted
online
at
those
same
urls
that
robbie
just
pointed
out,
along
with
the
guidebook
itself
and
a
pretty
robust
set
of
faqs
that
we
have
developed
over
the
course
of
producing
this
guidebook.
But
for
now,
let's
turn
to
our
question
and
answer
section
of
the
presentation
joining
us
tonight
is
dick
coe
from
the
evanston
development
cooperative,
who
is
a
subject
matter
expert
on
many
of
the
more
technical
aspects
of
adu
development.
Thank
you
for
being
here,
dick.
C
Right,
thank
you,
megan.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
joining
us
and
first
you
know,
congratulate
you
and
for
just
delivering
on
just
an
awesome
presentation
and
also
city
staff,
both
present
and
past
city
staff.
I
see
on
the
attendees
list
of
this
adu
code
and
this
guide
is
really
many
years
of
hard
work.
So
congratulations.
Congratulations
to
the
whole
team.
Okay,
so
the
first
question
on:
does
it
relax
the
permeable
ground
requirement
and
the
short
answer
is
it
does
not?
C
What
the
city
did
do
in
september
of
2020
is
to
relax
the
open-air
parking,
how
that
counts
towards
building
lot
coverage,
so
the
permeable
surfaces
still
go
by
the
underlying
zoning
district,
so
that
goes
with
the
chart
that
ravi
showed
whether
you're
an
r1
r3.
You
need
to
make
sure
that
when
you
calculate
the
surface
area
of
your
driveway
buildings,
garages
or
adus,
you
stay
within
that
limit.
That's
important
because
of
storm
water
management.
C
A
Great,
thank
you
dick.
Maybe
this
next
question
can
go
to
you:
robbie
does
an
adu
have
to
have
a
private
entry
or
if
it's
in
a
basement,
for
example,
can
you
enter
through
the
main.
B
C
I'll
take
it
yeah,
so
it
really
depends
what
you
want
to
do
with
that
units,
whether
it's
for
a
family
member
to
live
in
there.
Some
sharing
entryway
is
okay,
but
again
it
has
to
meet
the
building
code
requirements
for
egress,
whether
if
there's
a
bedroom
in
the
basement,
it
has
to
be
the
minimum
square
feet
for
the
window,
size
and
minimum
clearance,
and
those
are
for
safety
reasons
that,
even
as
we
relax
the
adu
code,
we
need
to
make
sure
we
keep
the
occupants
safe.
C
So
does
it
need
to
have
a
private
entry?
My
understanding
is,
it
does
not,
but
then
again
as
you
go
into,
can
you
who
would
rent
it
or
live
in
it?
That
becomes
a
question
of
how
you
want
to
design
the
space
and
have
access
to
the
different
parts
of
the
building.
A
B
Yeah,
so
we
have
tried
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
this
question
multiple
times
and
the
short
answer
is
we
don't
have
a
great
answer?
We
do
know
property
taxes
will
go
up
in
some
capacity
more
so,
if
you're,
adding
a
separate,
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit
to
your
backyard
from
the
cook
county
assessor's
perspective,
if
you
build
a
detached
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
your
backyard,
I
think
they
classify
it.
I
would
need
to
double.
I
think
dick
is
it
2-06?
Is
that
correct
what
the
classification
is?
B
It's
the
classification
for
a
small
single-family
residential
and
so
what
you
actually
do
is
you
have
two
pins
on
the
property?
That's
correct,
right,
correct
yeah!
You
have
two
pins
two
one
pin,
but.
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah,
thank
you
one
say
one
pin
so:
there's
no
sort
of
property,
tax,
split
for
the
entire
property,
but
two
class
codes
and
if
you're
yeah.
I
think,
based
on
conversations
just
trying
to
gather
this
information
that
we've
had
with
the
cook
county
assessor's
office.
I
think
this
is
still
a
very
new
topic
for
them,
and
what
we
also
know
is
that
there
aren't
really
enough
accessory
dwelling
units
in
evanston
yet
to
be
able
to
statistically
estimate
just
what
would
the
average
increase
in
property
taxes
be.
A
C
A
Let
me
ask
you
one
more
related
to
just
like
what
existing
properties
might
look
like,
so
one
person
in
the
audience
has
a
condominium
in
a
four
unit.
Building
the
condo
has
a
full
garden
apartment
under
it,
and
this
person
has
been
preventing
prevented
from
renting
the
garden
unit
in
the
past
because
it
was
not
attached
to
the
unit
above
it
with
an
interior
stair,
so
they're
trying
to
get
out
what
the
definition
specifically
of
what
an
attached
adu
actually
is
in
this
situation.
C
Yeah,
it's
hard
to
know
all
the
details,
but
based
on
that
description,
it
sounds
like
this
garden
unit
is
now
what
we
would
consider
an
adu.
It's
it's!
You
know
it's
subordinate
to
the
rest
of
the
structure.
It's
a
smaller
unit.
It's
attached
doesn't
really
matter
if
it's
attached
under
it.
Next
to
it.
It's
really
the
you
know,
in
addition,
so
that
accessory
dwelling
unit
part
is
now
what's
legalized.
C
So
before
you
might
have
been
told
hey,
I
can't
rent
it
out
or
you
have
to
sign
an
affidavit
saying
you
can't
rent
it
out
or
you
have
to
even
take
out
a
kitchen.
We've
heard
all
kinds
of
stories
that
now
I
think
the
city
is
saying
those
units
are
important
for
homeowners
to
have
that
flexibility
to
do
so.
I
would
imagine
you
know
if
you
approach
the
city,
you
say:
well,
here's
here's
the
units.
How
do
I
make
sure
it
meets?
C
A
Great
thank
you
and
this
for
this
next
question.
I
would
love
to
hear
from
both
of
you.
The
question
is:
who
is
currently
expressing
interest
in
looking
to
build
an
adu
and
for
what
uses?
So
what
are
the
two
of
you
hearing
a
lot
of
what
kind
of
what
kinds
of
adus
are
generating
the
most
interest.
C
Free
yeah
and
I
think
what
I
appreciate,
what
what
you've
titled
this
guide
is
adu
like
y-o-u,
and
I
think
it
really
sums
it
up.
Well
as
most
of
the
homeowners
and
we've
spoken
to
almost
150
160
evanson
homeowners
in
the
last
two
years,
and
I
would
say,
95,
98
of
them
are
homeowners.
Thinking
about
just
more
flexibility.
How
do
I
provide
housing
for
an
elderly
parent
if
you're,
a
gen
xer
or,
if
you're,
a
baby
boomer?
I
want
to
stay
in
the
community?
C
C
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
adding
one
small
note
to
that
when
thinking
about
the
effects
of
the
pandemic
as
well.
I
agree
with
everything
dick's
saying,
and
I
think
one
thing
I've
also
noticed
is
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
an
uptick,
because
these
regulations
are
so
new
in
evanston.
B
So
it's
almost
tough
to
tell
what
the
trends
were
before
the
pandemic,
but
we
have
seen,
I
think,
calls
related
to
adu's
foraging
parents
as
a
solution
for
intergenerational
living,
especially
in
light
of
you
know
a
lot
of
the
news
surrounding
institutionalized
living
care
during
the
pandemic.
In
2020
people
looking
for
a
safe
year,
safer,
healthier,
more
independent
option,
that's
very
close
to
family.
A
That
was
that
was
super
helpful.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
both
for
sharing
those
insights
so
to
to
dovetail
off
that
just
a
little
bit.
I
know
you
were
mentioning
you
know
the
kind
of
this
family
aspect
of
adus,
but
do
you
have
any
sense
of
you
know
how
much
interest
there
is
in
in
using
adus
for
either
long-term
rentals
or
more
short
short
term
like
airbnbs
these
types
of
things.
B
My
thought
is
of
the
calls
we've
gotten
most
are
for
either
most
are
not
for
rental
most
are
either
for
family
or
for
kind
of
entrepreneurship,
home
business
or
home
office.
B
I
think
I
think
in
my
mind,
some
of
the
people
who
initially
do
it
for
a
home
business,
are
thinking-
oh,
maybe
five,
ten
years
down
the
line
I'll
rent
this
out
when
I
make
a
life
transition-
and
so
perhaps
that's
part
of
the
thinking-
and
I
can
imagine
some
of
these
structures
being
built
now
for
another
purpose
being
rented
out
eventually.
But
at
least
my
thoughts
are
that
in
terms
of
the
calls
we're
getting
from
most
people,
they're
they're
for
they're,
not
for
rental,
but
dick.
C
No,
I
think
people
do
think
about
you
know
many
years
down.
The
line.
Rental
would
be
an
option
to
know
that
in
you
know,
10
years
from
now,
when
this
initial
purpose
is
done,
we
could
rent
it
out
for
two
to
three
years
or
in
between.
We
could
do
short-term
rental.
This
has
gone
before
city
council
here
in
evanston,
and
we
continue
to
allow
short-term
rental.
C
So
I
think
those
are
just
just
giving
homeowners
more
flexibility,
but
again
the
absolute
majority
of
homeowners
thinking
about
just
how
to
how
to
build
it
for
their
family
free
to
use,
and
one
thing
that
I
want
to
note
is
you
know
in
this
collaboration
with
the
city
of
evanston
over
the
last
two
years,
and
we've
done
research.
You
know,
alongside
with
the
city,
looking
at
what
other
city,
other
cities
and
municipalities
have
done
from
portland
oregon
to
los
angeles,
to
vancouver
denver
boston.
C
So
really
one
of
the
what's
really
exciting
for
us
to
see
this
come
to.
Fruition
is
taking
sort
of
best
practices
from
all
these
other
cities
and
and
also
tailoring
it
to
what
works
in
evanston.
We
we
provide
that
collaboration
and
talking
to
hundreds
of
homeowners
and
residents
and
distilling
that
into
something
that
we
hope
is
very
adaptable
and
usable
by
homeowners.
A
Great,
thank
you
both
robbie.
Could
I
get
you
to
toggle
back
to
the
previous
slide,
I've
gotten
a
couple
of
questions
that
are
asking
where
we
can
find
these
materials,
and
so,
if
you
see
on
on
the
screen
now,
you
can
either
find
the
the
recording
of
this
webinar
is
going
to
be
posted
along
with
the
guidebook
itself
and,
like
I
mentioned
before,
a
pretty
robust
list
of
faqs.
A
So
those
two
websites
are
cityofevenston.org,
adu
and
evanston.co-op,
c-o-o-p,
all
right
so
to
circle
back
to
maybe
some
of
the
more
technical
questions
that
we're
getting
from
the
audience
I'll.
Let
one
of
you
take
this
one
in
the
r3
district
on
a
lot
with
an
existing
duplex
structure,
how
many
adus
are
allowed.
B
C
Perfect,
either
internal
or
attached
versus
detached,
and
I
think
in
special
cases
where
you
have
an
internal
adu,
whether
it's
a
basement
and
then
you're,
adding
a
detached
adu.
You
could
apply
for
a
zoning
variance
if
you,
if
one
of
them
will
be
used
for
family
use
or
an
out-of-town
gas.
But
there
is
a
process
to
apply
for
zoning
variants
in
those
cases.
A
Great
and
robbie,
you
know
in
your
section
around
the
the
process
of
developing
adus.
You
touched
a
little
bit
on
on
timeline
and
we're
getting
one
question
that
is
asking
a
little
bit
more
specifically
about
attached,
adus
or
interior
adus.
So
I'm
thinking,
if
we
take
out
this
idea
that
you
have
to
do
completely
new
construction,
will
that
save
on
on
timeline
at.
B
C
Yeah
it,
I
think,
that's
also
where
you
know
working
with
a
trusted
professional
is
helpful
because
you
just
don't
know
until
you
start
looking
at
what's
there.
Sometimes
there
are
underlying
problems
that
may
not
be
noticeable,
or
so
I.
C
A
Dick,
I
would
love
to
ask
you
this
one:
are
there
alternate
building
materials
for
new
construction,
considering
current
prices
of
certain
construction
materials
and
also,
when
you
answer
that?
Do
you
mind
also
speaking
to
what
you
see
is
as
typical
cost
to
do
things
like
moving
overhead
electrical
lines.
C
Yeah
and
something
that
we
talk
to,
you
know
evansville
residents
and
homeowners.
A
lot
is,
you
know,
an
adu
whether
it's
internal
attached
or
detached.
Of
course.
That's.
You
know
what
we
focus
more
on
in
edc,
detach
lady
uses
you're
in
the
end,
looking
at
a
independent
unit
right,
this
is
a
small
apartment
that
you
are
investing
in
building
in
your
backyard.
This
isn't
a
an
upgraded
garage.
This
is
not
a
souped-up
garage,
so
I
think
categorically.
We
really
need
to
start
thinking
about
yeah.
C
This
unit
will
need
water,
sewer
utilities,
kitchen
bathroom,
plumbing
fire
sprinkler
so
and
moving
you
to
the
utility
lines.
So,
as
we
think
about
how
this
whole
project
comes
together,
it's
also
really
important
to
think
about
what
I
have
behind
me.
Our
climate
action
and
resilience
plan,
and
we
really
believe
for
evanston
to
be
resilient.
It's
not
just
housing,
but
also
can
we
without
paying
a
premium?
You
know
with
cost
competitive
materials
techniques
design
and
build
methods
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
high
performance
that
our
climate
action
resiliency
plan
requires.
C
So
with
that
you
know
it's
really
looking
at.
How
do
we
achieve
higher
safety
standards?
You
know
better
indoor,
air
quality
and
so
for
us.
We
use
structural
insulated
panels.
We
see
benefits
and
being
able
to
spend
time
to
design
on
a
computer,
make
sure
everything
is
right
and
then
the
wall
panels
are
manufactured
in
the
factory
assembled
once
in
the
factory
packed
and
shipped
the
site,
and
we
assemble
it
quickly,
reducing
construction
time,
noise
on
site
and
construction
debris
on
site.
C
So
for
us,
that's
important,
because
that
also
gives
us
the
high
performance
so
allowing
us
to
have
our
units,
I'm
really
thinking
about
all
electric.
So
we
don't
need
to
contribute
to
carbon
emissions
from
our
buildings,
and
that
is
much
more
easily
done
when
you
don't
just
build
the
same
old
way
with
stuff
frame,
construction
and
stuffed
insulation,
but
really
using
modern
technology
and
materials,
and
you
know
moving
overhead
lines.
I'm
assuming
this
means
the
service
line
between
the
back
of
the
alley
to
the
front
house
and
that's
typically
in
the
couple
of
thousand
dollars.
C
You
know
less
than
five
figures,
but
if
you're
talking
moving
the
the
power
lines
along
the
alley
between
the
two
properties
that
gets
into
the
five
figures,
the
10
20
10
20
000
range-
you
know
so
burying
the
line
to
get
it
out
of
the
way
is
definitely
somewhere.
You
know
less
than
ten
thousand
and
some
of
the
prices
we
looked
at
five
six,
seven,
eight
again,
depending
on
how
long
of
a
run
that
we
have.
But
one
quick
note
is
you
want
to
do
that
in
conjunction
with
planning
out
your
adu?
C
A
Great
thanks
so
much
stick.
Robbie
we've
got
a
zoning
question,
so
maybe
we
could
toggle
back
to
one
of
the
zoning
slides
sure
the
question
is,
we
are
zoned
b1.
Can
we
do
an
adu.
B
C
Correct
and
then
once
you
get
to
b1
and
some
are
in
the
t1
near
the
university,
I
think
those
are
best
to
just
talk
to
the
city,
but
I
I
believe
it
is
allowed
an
adu
is
allowed,
but
the
setbacks
are
could
be
different
and
how
they're
categorized
might
be
different,
maybe
in
multi-family
or
in
zoning
districts
that
allow
multi-family.
A
Great
great,
so
our
next
question
could
an
attached
adu
use
your
construction
panels,
even
if
the
main
house
is
traditional
construction.
C
Yeah,
I
think,
yeah.
I
know
we
partner.
I
saw
another
question
on
you
know
modern
technology
materials
resources,
we're
happy
to
share
more
of
that.
You
know
and
our
partner
who
makes
the
structural
insulated
panels.
They
work
on
projects
all
across
the
country
actually
around
the
world
and
there
are
bump
outs
if
we
won't
call
that
where
we
have
additions
to
the
house.
C
But
again
it's
really
important
to
think
holistically.
You
know
these
walls
are
super
insulated,
but
what
is
it
connected
to
so?
I
think,
as
we
think,
about
performances
of
our
single-family
or
multi-family
units
is
really
knowing
your
building.
So
it's
important
to
have
an
energy
performance
test
done
on
your
house
as
you
think
about
investing
in
higher
quality
materials.
What
are
you
connecting
it
to?
Are
other
parts
of
the
house
leaky?
A
C
A
No
problem-
and
I
should
say
to
the
audience
if
there
are
questions
that
we
are
unable
to
answer
this
evening.
There
are
even
more
resources
on
the
websites
that
we've
been
plugging
this
evening,
so
please
feel
free
to
peruse
those
at
your
leisure,
okay.
Another
question
we
have
if
you
have
an
existing
adu,
but
it
was
grandfathered
not
to
be
rented.
Can
that
be
changed
so
that
it
is
now
rentable
I'll?
Let
either
of
you
take
that
one.
B
A
Yeah
absolutely
so
we
we
do
have
a
link
in
the
guidebook
to
the
registration
page
for
the
city
of
evanston,
also,
if
it's
a
fairly
easy
thing
to
navigate
just
through
google,
if
you
want
to
just
google
evanston
rental
registration,
but
again
yeah.
That
is
one
of
the
faqs
in
the
guidebook,
so
feel
free
to
peruse
that
after
this
call,
let's
see
if
you
build
an
extension
to
your
existing
house
as
a
guest
unit,
does
the
permit
process
differ
or
is
it
still
considered
an
adu.
C
That's
my
understanding
as
well.
It
would
be
classified
as
an
internal
renovation
building
permit
process
and
how
and
then,
depending
on
what
is
done
in
that
project,
you
know
whether
it's
you're,
adding
more
water
fixtures
or
I.
A
A
Great
and
I
want
to
quickly
share
one
question
that
has
come
up
and
that
we
also
have
answered
in
our
guidebook
and
in
the
faqs,
which
is
how
do
I
register
a
new
address
for
my
adu.
So
you
know
once
you've
gone
through
this
process
and
developed
your
adu.
How
do
I
go
about
that?
So
the
answer
is
that
you
will
submit
a
plan
to
public
works,
showing
the
main
access
door
along
with
a
letter
requesting
the
address.
A
The
city
will
generate
that
new
address
for
you,
considering
the
properties
in
similar
blocks
and
the
new
address
will
be
sent
to
review
to
multiple
divisions
across
the
city
and
then,
after
a
review
and
approval,
the
city
is
going
to
generate
that
new
address
letter
that
will
be
circulated
to
all
the
concerned
parties,
including
the
post
office
and
any
other
city
departments.
That
will
need
to
know
that.
A
So
I
have
a
couple
more
pretty
technical
questions
that
maybe
I'll
just
float
and
see
if
you
have,
if
the
two
of
you
have
any
any
insight
for
folks
in
the
audience,
so
the
first
one
is
what
is
the
minimum
head
height
required
for
a
basement
adu
and
can
plumbing
project
into
the
area.
B
A
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
We
will
we
can.
We
are
happy
to
look
into
this
and
add
that
to
the
faqs
great
and
then
another
pretty
technical,
specific
question
is
I
have
a
50
by
136
foot
lot
with
an
existing
two
flat
and
coach
house
garage
in
an
r4a
zoning
district.
Can
I
still
do
an
attached
adu
and
so
maybe
not
to
put
you
all
on
the
spot
with
math,
but
if
you
have
any
just
general
insights
around
how
to
figure
that
out,
that
would
be
great.
C
Great
question:
I
I'm
guessing.
The
short
answer
is
yes
r4,
just
you
know,
as
we
go
to
the
higher
r,
you
know
r4
r5
r6,
you
got
higher
density,
so
I
think,
assuming
the
existing
two
flats
does
not
expand.
C
You
know
cover
a
lot
of
the
yard
again.
This
is
completely
guessing,
but
you
know
an
attach.
If
there
is
a
coach
house
or
a
detached
adu,
it
depends
on
if
it's
being
rented
out,
if
you
want
to
convert,
you
know,
do
an
attach
adu.
I
think
we
ran
into
this
situation
where
you
would
need
a
zoning
variance
to
have
two
adus
on
the
property,
and
then
you
would
have
to
demonstrate
that
you
know
one
or
the
other
will
be
rented
out.
So
I
think
that's
my
understanding.
The
process.
A
Great,
we
just
got
a
pretty
fun
question
that
I
am
looking
forward
to
hearing
your
thoughts
on.
Are
there
any
technological
advances
that
you
think
might
make
an
adu
more
viable?
Something
like
a
small
personal
elevator
comes
to
mind,
but
is
there
anything
else-
and
I
would
love
to
just
add
my
own
question
to
that-
which
is,
I
would
love
for
you
all
to
speak
a
little
bit
just
about
how
adus
can
speak.
A
You
know
specifically
to
needs
of
accessibility
sustainability.
These
types
of
things
would
love
to
hear
that
from
you
both.
B
Perspective
a
lot
of
these
code
changes
that
were
passed.
I
think
dick
can
touch
on
sustainability.
He
knows
that
world
better
than
me,
but
for
accessibility.
A
lot
of
these
code
changes
that
were
passed
in
september
2020
really
take
a
meaningful
step
towards
accessibility.
B
The
primary
thing
is,
as
dick
was
saying
by
allowing
for
you
to
have,
as
you
see
in
some
of
these
graphics,
maybe
a
parking
pad
and
then
a
detached
adu
elsewhere
on
the
property
that
can
really
facilitate
ground
level
structures
that
maybe
weren't
as
feasible
in
the
prior
adu
code,
where,
if
you
were
doing
something
new
in
the
backyard,
it
would
need
to
be
two
stories,
and
so
that's
one
big
step
forward
in
terms
of
accessibility.
B
We
also
see
from
a
design
perspective,
people
think
about
wider
hallways
we've
heard
folks
talk
to
us
about
chair
ramps.
If
they
are
thinking
about
two
stories,
you
know
walk-in
showers,
no
bathtubs
and
so
forth,
and
dick,
if
you
have
anything
to
add
on
accessibility
or
want
to
jump
into
sustainability,
feel
free.
C
And
I
can't
highlight
you
know
enough
that
outdoor
open-air
parking
no
longer
count
towards
our
building
lock
coverage,
because
I
think,
when
we
think
of
coach
houses,
we
think
of
a
living
unit.
Above
a
two
three
car
garage
and
a
lot
of
that
was
driven
by
zoning
code.
Saying
you
can't
move
that
parking
space
outside
of
a
structure.
So
the
only
way
to
go
was
up
and
that
created
the
quote-unquote
coach
house
that
we
have
in
our
in
our
minds.
But
that
has
now
been
relaxed
significantly.
C
So
a
homeowner
can
choose
what
I
like
to
call
housing
for
people
or
housing
for
cars
and
depending
on
the
situation,
there
could
be
a
need
for
garage
parking
or
there
could
be
more
need
for
housing
for
a
loved
one.
And
so
that
gives
us
the
opportunity,
the
homeowners
the
opportunity
to
make
that
decision
and
put
a
car
off
the
street
but
on
their
lap
but
outside
and
cannot
be
counted
towards.
Building,
lock
coverage
and.
C
C
A
C
Heat
this
house,
with
an
air
source
heat
pump,
an
all-electric
house
no
longer
needs
a
gas
furnace.
You
can
have
very
comfortable
living
where
you
know
a
unit,
they
sit
outside
and
the
compressor
sits
outside
you
have
these
wall
units
or
it
could
be
ducted
as
just
trickles
of
electricity
is
enough
to
keep
the
space
warm.
So
with
that
technology
allows
us
to
do
an
all-electric
system.
We
would
need
to
pull.
You
know
natural
gas
line
all
the
way
to
the
back.
C
Also
induction
cooktops
are
I
like
to
say
not
your
grandfather's
electric
cooktop
anymore.
It's
really.
It
heats
water
faster
than
a
gas
stove,
and
so
I
think
those
things
make
sustainable,
living
more
viable
and,
of
course,
with
every
year
those
technologies
become
cheaper
and
more
accessible.
B
C
Yeah
erv's
energy
recovery,
ventilation-
it's
these
are
smart
units
that
actually
it
just
blows
my
mind.
It
just
sits
in
the
house:
it
replenishes
the
the
stale
indoor
air
on
a
hot
day
like
today.
You
know
my
air
conditioning
is
on,
but
I
don't
want
to
open
the
windows,
but
this
erv
would
say:
yeah
just
replenish
the
clean
outdoor
air,
but
use
the
cold
conditioned
air
to
warm
up
or
cool
down
or
dehumidify
the
outdoor
air
before
putting
it
in
here
and
most
residential
homes.
C
Just
don't
have
that
commercial
spaces
and
office
spaces
have
ventilation,
but
with
what?
With
technology
with
building
science,
what
we've
learned
is
you
want
to
actively
ventilate
so
that
you
have
clean
air
and
you
remove
particulate
matter,
remove
odor
remove
carbon
dioxide,
so
those
units
are
especially
important
as
you
think
about
new
construction
and
airtight
dwelling
units.
A
Great,
that
is
super
interesting.
Thank
you
both
for
sharing.
We
are
coming
up
on
the
hour,
so
robbie.
If
I
can
just
get
you
to
one
more
time,
toggle
back
to
the
slide
that
has
the
links
to
where
we
can
direct
the
audience.
So
in
case
you
missed
it.
This
webinar
was
recorded
this
evening
and
we
will
be
posting
it
as
soon
as
we
can
on
both
the
city
of
evanston
website
and
on
evanston.com.
A
So
this
webinar,
the
guidebook
and
a
pretty
robust
set
of
faqs,
is
going
to
be
available
at
these
links
that
you
see
right
here,
city
of
evanston.org,
adu
and
evanston.coop,
and
we
will
probably
it'll
be
up
within
you
know
a
day
or
two.
So
with
that,
I
I
think
we
will
close
this
out
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
huge
thanks
to
ditko
and
robbie
marcus
for
your
time
and
for
partnering
on
this
project.
Thank
you.