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A
Good
evening,
everybody
welcome
to
the
Human
Services
Committee,
it's
Monday
June
5th,
and
it's
about
604
we're
ready
to
begin.
We
have
a
quorum
first
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
of
May
1st
2017
their
motion.
Second,
to
someone
seconds.
Second,
okay,
any
changes
or
Corrections;
okay,
all
those
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Okey
dokey
we're
going
to
play
a
little
bit
with
the
items
on
the
agenda,
we're
going
to
move
hh7
up
to
the
top
of
for
staff;
and
that's
the
rodent,
update
and
perfect
timing.
C
B
Good
day,
honorable
members
of
Human
Services
Committee
Michael
bo
interim
assistant
director
to
the
Health
and
Human
Services,
Department
I,
know
I
submitted
it
and
then,
though,
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
any
questions
in
regards
to
that
memo
and
if
there
aren't
I
can
provide
you
some
highlights
of
our
program.
So
far
this
year.
B
B
Also
so
far,
we've
conducted
one
rodent
walk
and
this
ruling
Rock
pretty
much
comprises
of
us,
taken
a
look
at
the
heat
map
to
identify
the
areas
in
which
we've
gotten
the
most
rodent
requests.
So
what
we
do
we
want
these
alleys
and
we
identify
whatever
the
contributing
factors
are
and
try
to
what
could
the
property
managers
and
property
owners
where
we
find
these
contributing
issues?
B
B
We
provide
newsletters
in
alleys
in
which
we
walk,
where
we
find
numerous
contributing
factors
to
let
the
residents
know
that
we
were
in
these
alleys
and
these
other
issues
that
we
found-
and
you
know
you
like
for
you
to
collaborate
with
us
to
work
with
us
to
rectify
whatever
these
issues
are,
and
also
we
go
to
residents
homes
and
compound
whenever
we're
called
to
provide
education
as
well.
So
education
has
always
been
a
paramount
facet
to
this
program
and
will
continue
providing
education
Ward
meetings.
B
Three
one
one,
three
one
one
has
been
very,
very
effective
in
our
program
by
training
smithereen.
In
regards
to
how
we
respond
to
our
residents
years
ago,
the
information
that
our
residents
get
were
quite
not
informative,
but
now
we
provided
responses
whereby
the
resident
knows
exactly
what's
going
on
in
the
property
by
providing
the
dates
in
which
the
technician
comes
to
render
treatment,
and
he
also
gives
them
a
figure
as
to
what's
really
going
on
how
much
activity
that
they
have
on
their
properties
by
percentage
before
I
was
just
saying
no
activity
or
activity.
B
And,
lastly,
is
our
continued
partnership
with
community
engagement
last
year
we
produce
our
own
in
control,
video,
which
was
on
our
local
channel,
and
this
year
we've
also
produced
another
video
which
is
actually
on
our
Facebook
and
Twitter
account,
and
if
I'm
allowed
I
would
like
to
play,
the
video
is
only
two
minutes
long.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
Hello,
Evanston,
I'm,
icon,
bow
Health
and
Human
Services
Department
spring
is
here
and
what
that
means
is
increase,
rodent
activity
and
I'm.
Here,
to
give
you
five
measures,
you
can
take
to
ensure
rodent
control
on
your
property
and
your
environment.
Step
number
one
ensure
that
there's
no
overflowing
garbage
on
your
property,
ensure
that
if
there
is
a
broken,
can
broken
garbage
bin
of
garbage
being
Eddison
disrepair
to
have
that
fixed
or
replaced
number
two
cover
all
foods
on
the
pet
foods
that
you
feed
your
pets,
both
seeds
and
and
water.
B
Make
sure
that
you
don't
have
these
accumulated
on
your
property,
because
this
will
encourage
rodent
activity.
Number
three:
remove
wood,
piles,
lumber,
the
brain
cut
your
grass
as
low,
because
this
will
encourage
harborage
so
make
sure
these
are
removed
in
order
to
discourage
any
real
activity
on
your
property
number.
Four.
Any
structures
that
are
in
disrepair
make
sure
that
you
repair
it
like
your
garages,
because
you
do
not
want
rodents
to
gain
access
onto
your
property
or
inside
your
garage
or
other
structures.
You
might
have
on
your
property
number
five.
B
Please
report
any
rodent
sightings
to
the
city
by
calling
three
one
one
or
texting
a
four
seven,
four,
four,
eight
4311
that
will
inform
us
that
there
is
a
problem
where
we
will
send
inspectors
out
to
see
if
there
are
any
contributing
factors
to
the
rodent
activity
in
the
area.
If
they
are,
we
will
ensure
in
what
were
the
property
owners
to
rectify
those
issues.
Please
share
this
information
with
your
neighbors
and
visit
our
website
for
more
information.
Our
website
is
www.pevs.com.
D
C
A
B
Very
much
what
we're
finding
there
are
properties,
not
keeping
or
maintaining
their
garbage,
so
it
so
ever.
There's
garbage,
of
course,
there's
going
to
be
some
rosin
activity
and
in
these
areas
like
towards
the
end
tale
of
the
the
burr
map.
Here
we
provided
newsletters
and
actually
we
have
provided
what
we
call
it.
A
night
Rocco
explain
of
a
night
abatement
in
these
areas
because
of
the
high
number
of
course
of
cotton
in
this
area,
but
primarily
what
we
see
a
overflowing
garbage
in
these
areas
and
people
fell
into
maintained,
garbage.
A
Okay,
now
we'll
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
our
agenda
for
hh1:
that's
ordinance,
39,
oh
17,
amending
the
city
code,
title
8,
chapter
5,
sections,
1,
3,
&,
4,
weeds;
the
evidence;
environmental
board
recommended
option
of
the
ordinance
it
was
held
in
committee
on
May
1st
and
it's
for
action
tonight.
Is
there
a
motion
and.
E
F
So
I'm
confused
I
mean.
Are
we
not
wanting
to
remove
the
weeds?
So
why
are
we
suggesting
that
the
city's
action
in
this
case
may
be
merely
to
mow
them
as
opposed
to
remove
them?
And
then
we
have
that
same
issue
of
whether
we're
mowing
or
removing
weeds
down
in
the
next
paragraph
beginning
at
8
at
the
8
5
4
paragraph,
you
see
my.
G
F
F
H
Good
evening
committee,
Henry,
Ford
assistant
city
attorney
I
believe
that
this
language
initially
was
a
mandatory
lien
requirement,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
board
wanted
to
remove
the
lien
requirement
in
its
entirety.
We
wanted
to.
We
wanted
it
to
remain
in
a
discretionary
sort
of
formal
function.
The
intention
is
for
the
city
to
have
that
option
and
we
can't
determine
what
any
individual
may
or
may
not
do
in
terms
of
its
property
or
its
choice,
to
go
ahead
and
attempt
to
remove
the
things
on
the
turf
and
the
weeds.
Aha.
F
H
We
can
say
in
its
in
its
name
the
same:
a
filed
notice
of
the
lien
to
clarify
it
and
that's
former
in
that
manner.
If
that's,
what
the
board
was
getting
at,
I
mean
I
would
need.
The
law
department
need
more
information
as
to
the
the
the
genesis
of
that
the
background
connected
to
that
lien
requirement.
We
deplore
was
a
mandatory
provision.
Now.
F
A
F
I
mean
we
weeds
that
we
really
don't
want
that
are
invasive
or
we
we
don't
want
to
smell
them
down,
because
then
they'll
just
keep
growing
up.
So
if
it's
a
weed
that
we
identify
in
our
ordinance
that
we
want
to
get
rid
of,
the
proper
thing
to
do
was
to
dig
that
dig
it
out
as
opposed
to
just
mowing
and
letting
it
grow
back.
Okay,.
E
F
D
I'm
sorry
I
dunno,
like
what
I'll
wait,
so
maybe
my
Peters
along
my
question.
It's
a
longer
the
autumn
and
Braithwaite,
because
when
I
did
read
this
I
appreciate
that
there's
some
weeds
that
looks
like
we
were
omitting
initially,
but
now
are
good
for
our
environments.
We
want
to
keep
those,
however,
being
one
who
has
a
large
yard
and
have
no
idea
what
weed
is
good
or
bad
I
would
hate
that
I'm
going
to
be
penalized
because
my
weeds
are
overgrown
and
I
have
no
idea
what's
good
or
bad.
So
I
guess.
D
My
question
is
from
here:
what
kind
of
community
education
campaign
is
there
going
to
be
before
we
move
to?
The
city
is
going
to
put
someone
of
your
property
and
they're
going
to
pull
out
your
weeds
and
then
we're
going
to
find
member
lien
them
work?
You
know
that
would
be
my
concern
for
someone
like
my
was
not
a
gardener.
D
F
We've
already
I
mean
we've
had
this
ordinance
in
place
for
a
long
time,
and
so
what
this
does
is
it
basically
is
saying
some
weeds
that
were
some
plants
were
identified
as
undesirable.
Weeds
are
in
fact
desirable,
and
so
we're
no
longer
telling
people
they
have
to
get
rid
of
them,
but
whatever
kind
of
education
we
may
have
done
in
the
past
about
proper
care
of
one's
gardens
would
be
what
we
would
want
to
continue
and
I
have
no
idea.
F
If
we
do
any
anything
like
that,
and
the
other
distinction
it
makes
is
a
distinction
between
turf
grass
and
sort
of
all
native
grasses
and
ornamental
grasses,
that
that
are
really
desirable
and
that
people
have
increasingly
planted
in
their
gardens,
and
so
this
says
turf
grass.
We
want
to
keep
it
mowed,
but
other
grasses.
We
want
to
have
flourish.
E
G
L
A
Not
what
weed
is
growing
and
I
mean
how
many
dandelions.
G
Essentially,
what
we
did
is
growing.
No
one.
We
tried
to
clarify
the
whole
weed
issue
because
there
were
ones
on
the
old
ordinance
that
were
are
now
considered
beneficial,
so
we
wanted
to
take
them
off
and
we
there's
have
been
other
invasives
that
have
come
in.
Did
we
wanted
to
get
on
the
list?
So
we
don't?
It's
not
like
we're
going
around
into
people's
yards.
Looking
specifically
for
weeds
we're.
Looking
more
for
complaints
specifically
for
rodents,
mm-hmm.
C
G
A
E
Guess
I'll
ask
the
stupid
question
because
I
want
to
understand
it's
like
normally.
If
someone's
grass
is
over
cut,
we
send
contracted
landscaper,
they
go
out
boom,
they
cut
it
35
bucks,
whatever
the
cost,
is
to
the
city.
So
now
we're
going
to
have
them.
If
I
understand
what
this
is
suggesting,
we're
going
to
have
them
inspect
the
weeds
and
then,
if
there's
an
additional
cost,
we
will
then
place
a
lien
on
the
homeowner
I'm,
just
I'm
trying
to
understand
if.
E
H
The
members
with
my
understanding,
based
on
what
the
environment
board
recommended,
is
that
there
is
the
discretionary
ability
to
lean
for
the
costs
of
evading
or
complying
with
the
new
terms
of
this
ordinance.
So
it's
a
discretionary
sort
of
a
lien.
It's
not
mandatory.
So
yes,
if
there
is
a
cost
assessed
either
by
the
individual
directive
or
individual
entity
directed
by
the
city
to
remove
the
weeds
or
the
other
sort
of
on
turf
grass.
That's
not
in
compliance
with
this
arm.
The
proposed
ordinance,
then
there's
a
possibility
of
a
milking
file,
so
I'm
not
crazy.
H
E
G
Not
going
on
all
over
town,
okay
and,
like
I,
said
it's
not
something
that
we
go
out
just
randomly
looking
for
right
for
tall
weeds
and
grass,
it's
more
on
a
complaint
basis,
and
mainly
through
the
Health
Department,
when
they
get
rodent
complaints,
okay,
they
find
harborage
issues.
That
is
where
it's
coming
from.
A
A
You
know
I,
understand
that,
but
I
mean
I'm
hearing
from
you
that
we're
talking
about
rodent
activity
on
one
hand,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we're
talking
about
habitat,
encouraging
habitat
and
I'm.
Just
I
guess
I'm
a
little
concerned
not
having
thought
about
this
before
of
you're
coming
into
someone's
backyard
and
seeing
weeds
all
over
the
place
and
saying
all
my
gosh
you've
got
to
remove
all
those
weeds
and
I
mean.
Would
you
send
city
staff
out
them
to
remove
the
weeds
and
then
charge
a
homeowner
for
that
cause?.
I
Right,
my
name
is
Chris
Koch
Arzo
can
evening,
madam
chair
and
evening
board
I'm
a
member
of
the
Evanston
environment
board.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
all
of
this
stuff
about
the
lien
is
already
in
the
existing
legislation.
The
existing
ordinance
already
has
all
of
this
language
about
the
lien.
The
board
wanted
to
accomplish
two
things.
I
One
was
to
update
the
definition
of
a
weed
so
as
to
remove
plants
that
are
beneficial
for
monarch,
butterfly
habitats,
and
the
second
was
to
change
the
city
from
requiring
the
enforcement
of
a
lien
to
make
that
an
optional
to
be
used.
The
discretion
of
whoever's
enforcing
this
ordinance.
So
those
are
the
only
two
changes
that
we
wanted
to
make
again
all
of
this
language
about
whether
or
not
it's
crazy
is
already
in
the
ordinance,
and
we
were
hoping
to
make
it
less
crazy
again,
not
to
use
your
your
your.
E
Riddle,
oh
yeah
I
mean
I
would
come
up
for
more
simple
solution
like
it
remembers.
The
environmental
board
want
to
do
this
on
a
volunteer
basis
like
if
their
properties
that
are
infested
with
weeds
and
whoever
makes
that
determination
makes.
It,
then,
is
a
group
of
volunteers.
You
will
go
out
to
that
home
and
dig
rather
than
spray
the
things.
That's
why
I
guess
I
have
my
landscaper
do,
but
for
us
to
enforce
this
on
a
homeowner,
particularly
a
property
who,
where
the
homeowners
asks-
and
it's
foreclosed
just
doesn't
make
fiscal
sense
to
me.
Well.
I
E
Clear
what
you're
saying
I'm
just
in
situations
where,
at
least
in
a
second
I,
don't
go
around
to
the
other
wards,
where
there's
a
grass,
where
the
property,
where
the
grass
is
overgrown,
I'm,
just
happy
to
see
the
lawn
cut,
along
with
the
other
neighbors,
let
alone
making
an
assessment
on.
What's
a
healthy
weed
like
I,
just
it's
a
little
far-reaching
for
me
right
now,
but
if
their
properties
all
over
town
other
wards,
then
I
guess
I'd
like
to
have
a
little
bit
more
information.
I.
E
Think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
still
makes
sense
that
if
there's
that
concern,
then
that
sounds
like
a
wonderful
effort
for
the
environmental
board
to
get
involved
and
say
we
will
come
in
read
out
the
property,
I
guess
without
having
that
expense
being
passed
along
to
a
homeowner
or
an
absentee
owner,
and
then,
of
course,
now
we're
using
the
utilizing
staff
time
to
go,
enforce
the
lien
and
it
just
again
just
lip-read
slope
that
I
don't
think
we
want
to
go
down,
but
that's
my
two
cents.
Whatever
it's
worth.
F
F
The
property
three
properties
on
the
block
were
being
poorly
maintained,
there's
a
lot
of
grass
and
a
lot
of
debris
in
the
yard,
and
so
the
city
went
and
put
a
notice
on
the
door
for
each
of
the
three
residents
to
ask
them
to
clean
it
up
and
cut
the
grass
and
I
I.
Don't
know
what
happened
beyond
that,
but
so
that
that
would
be
another
way,
some
kind
of
a
but
as
Paul
indicated,
it's
mostly
responding
to
complaints,
not
not
some
kind
of
grand
plan
of
the
city
to
go
around.
Looking
for
bad
weeds.
D
So
I
guess
my
thought
in
this
Peter
Knight
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
I
kind
of
thought,
the
same
thing
but
I
was
I'm.
New
and
I
was
willing
to
let
its
logic,
but
if
we
are
concerned
about
rodents
and
overgrown
grass
for
other
reasons
than
definitely
I'm
all
for
you
know,
we
need
to
send
someone
out
and
cut
that
now.
D
If
there
is,
you
know
a
person
in
their
yard
and
there
is
overgrown
and
we've
called
or
the
neighbor
has
called,
and
you
know
they
don't
want
to
cut,
because
this
is
good
and
this
is
bad
and
they
want
a
hand
pick
or.
However,
they
take
care
of
that
I'm
all
for
this
language
to
allow
them
to
keep
what's
good
and
get
rid
of
what's
bad.
You
know
the
lien
is
a
little
far
stretching
for
me,
but
I'm
happy.
D
If
you
know
if
we
think
that
that's
already
language
there,
but
we're
not
really
applying
it,
then
I
would
say
we
don't
need
to
have
it.
But
that's
another
conversation
you
know,
but
for
those
people
who
do
want
to
keep
the
good
plants
and
get
rid
of
the
bad
ones
if
they
want
to
go
through
that
due
diligence,
if
it's
the
city's
cost
and
we're
sending
someone
out
for
a
health
issue,
then
I
think
we
just
mow
it
all
down
and
we're
not
sending
anybody
volunteer
or
nonetheless
out
they
can
decipher.
K
Do
I
Robin,
so
the
lane
is
already
happening
right.
So
if
you,
your
grass
is
too
high
and
there's
a
complaint
and
you
are
given
X
amount
of
days.
What
I'm
sure
there's
a
certain
amount
of
days.
You
don't
cut
it.
City
comes
out,
they
cut
it
and
they
lien
the
property
owner.
That's
already
happening
right,
and
so
what
you're
asking
is
that
when
the
city
goes
out
to
cut
said
to
high
grass
and
weeds
that
they
don't
cut
the
safe
weeds,
the.
K
H
C
H
I
Intention
was
not
to
specify
how
the
city
cuts
down
weeds.
It
was
just
to
try
to
allow
people
to
grow
things
that
are
beneficial
to
particularly
butterfly
habitats,
but
also
to
other
desirable
wildlife
species.
Yeah.
We
don't.
We
don't
really
care.
I
won't
speak
for
the
board
here,
but
I.
Don't
think
we
care
how
this,
if
he
actually
chooses
to
enforce
when
they're,
going
and
cutting
down
things.
Okay,.
K
I
So
in
my
imagined
scenario,
you're
growing
milkweed,
which
is
great
for
the
monarch
caterpillar
and
your
neighbor,
complains
that
your
milkweed
is
too
large
before
they
would
be
able
to
enforce
the
city
to
come
and
cut
it
down.
Now
they
can't
because
it's
not
considered
a
weed.
It's
considered
a
desirable
species
got.
E
A
A
A
M
A
good
evening
committee,
chair,
Human,
Services
Fisk
and
elected
officials,
ovando
Thomas,
Smith,
Health,
Department
Director,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
another
insight
of
how
the
language
of
lien
and
how
we
get
involved.
Currently,
regardless
of
good
weed
or
bad.
We
we
don't
make
that
assessment.
If
there
is
rodent,
Harbhajan
or
sanitation
issues
we
have
the
owner
cut,
whatever
is
creating
that
good
and
bad,
and
if
the
property
is
vacant
currently
have
91
vacant
properties
across
our
community.
M
We
maintain
those
properties
if
the
bank
or
the
estate
owner
fails
to
do
that
and
we
do
lien
the
property.
So
we
lien
the
property
of
the
owner
currently,
who
is
committing
harborage
regardless
of
weed
or
you
know,
good
nature
and
habitat,
etc,
and
if
they
don't
comply,
we
do
blame
their
current
property.
So
I
understand
the
spirit
of
the
environment
board,
creating
a
space
that
is
a
natural
habitat,
but
from
a
public
health,
sanitation
issue,
I'm
trying
to
control
the
rodent
population
that
we
have.
M
If
there
is
a
harborage
that
is
creating
a
productive
shelter
for
rodent
activity,
good
weed
or
bad
weed.
It
is
cut
and
encouraged
to
cut.
If
it's
over
eight
eight
inches-
and
that
is
where
the
language
comes
from-
in
the
ordinance
of
leaning,
a
property
currently
and
vacant
property,
so
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
additional
insight.
From
our
perspective,
that
is
a
rationale
protecting
the
landscape
and.
E
A
It's
what
bothers
me
a
little
bit
is
the
removal
is
okay.
Let's
say
somebody
cuts
it
down
to
two
inches:
they
cut
their
weeds
and
their
grass
down
to
two
inches.
There's
no
longer
harborage
issue
there,
but
suddenly,
where,
if
it's
not
unapproved
weed,
then
people
have
to
remove
it
too.
It's
reported
and
that's
where
I
have
the
problem.
Frankly,
I
think.
M
For
us,
that's
where
it
gets
great
for
us,
you
know,
because
again
we
cannot
control
that
outgrowth
from
property
line
to
property
line,
and
that
is
why
we
don't
make
that
assessment.
If
it's
a
sanitation
issue,
it's
cut
to
the
appropriate
level
regardless,
if
it
over
crowds
or
you
know,
goes
into
another
property
line.
So.
E
Well
said
what
we
do
what's
confusing
to
me:
the
gray
areas
if
we
start
to
get
involved
with
assessing
leads-
and
my
concern
would
be
wherever
this
came
from-
that
if
there's
someone
out
there
that
has
this
flexibility
to
now
enforce
this,
that's
when
it
gets
goofy
and
so
we've
already
voted
on
it.
So
I
mean
we
can
revote.
If
there's
a
strong
urge
on
the
committee
before
this
goes
to
council,
but
we
can
either
deal
with
it
now
or
we'll
have
to
deal
with
it
on
the
council
level.
E
I
would
suggest
that
whoever
voted
yes
can
recall
the
vote
if
we
can
get
led
just
so,
though
we
hold
it
in
committee,
flush
out
the
language
with
with
the
assessment
of
weeds
mr.
Ford
and
then
allow
the
current
ordinance
as
director
Thomas
Smith
outlined
exists,
then
I'm
good
with
it
and
I
think
it's
cleaner.
It's
just
my
personal
opinion.
Well,.
K
E
So
you
would
move
the
motion
to
reconsider
the
vote,
correct.
That
would
be
the
first
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we'd
have
to
vote
on
that
and
then
I
would
ask
to
hold
this
over,
redirect
it
to
staff
to
flush
out
any
language
that
allows
for
the
assessment
of
weeds
and
then
bring
back
the
original
organs.
E
I
think,
if
that's
something
that
the
environmental
board
would
like
to
take
on
and
do
exactly,
as
you
suggested,
be
a
resource
for
residents
who
have
a
concern
or
want
to
make
the
discernment
between
what's
a
healthy
weed
and
not
healthy
weed,
invest
in
time.
That
sounds
like
a
wonderful
project
for
the
environmental
board
to
do
and
if
it
looks
like
it's
something,
that's
gained
some
traction
and
we
can
revisit
it
at
a
later
date,
but
right
now,
let's
flush
this
out
and
move
on
with
the
rest
of
the
items.
H
Just
just
for
clarification
on
all
demand,
very
fluid
and
on
the
committee,
one
of
the
prevailing
four
motions
reconsider
one
of
the
aldermen
who
voted
on
the
prevailing
side
would
have
to
make
that
motion.
It'd
have
to
be
seconded
and
that's
the
V
under
that's
my
understanding,
but
just
please
note
that
this
is
just
a
recommendation.
H
I
E
K
F
Well,
I
was
just
wanting
us
to
kind
of
clarify
exactly
what
we
were
going
to
be
trying
to
write
change.
So
it
sounds
to
me
as
though,
what
we're
saying
is
when
we're
dealing
with
weeds,
even
good
weeds
in
a
context
of
rodent
harborage,
that
we
would
discuss
that
in
one
way
in
this
ordinance,
but
I
think
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
take
care
of
the
problem
that
the
environment
board
was
trying
to
address,
which
is
a
garden
that
has
a
lot
of
milkweed
and
then
a
neighbor
thinks.
F
A
I
think
we
want
to
distinguish
between
again
between
the
habitat
and
the
harborage,
and
so
if
we
have
a
neighbor,
that's
complaining
because
it
doesn't
like
milkweed
doesn't
like
those
things
that
fly
around,
but
there's
no
infestation
there.
That's
that's
one
thing:
I
mean
there.
The
environment
board
maybe
can
offer
a
homeowner
help
to
come
and
relocate
or
thin
or
do
something.
But
this
ordinance
is
trying
to
do
too
two
completely
different
and
complicated
things,
and
it's
not
so.
D
I
think
you
actually
covered
what
I
was
going
to
say.
I
think
it
seems
to
me
to
be
two
different
things:
I
think
in
the
case
of
harborage
and
rodents
and
trash,
we
want
everything
cut
down,
always
I
want
my
neighbor's
stuff
cut
down
if
we're
getting
Radford,
if
you're
growing,
a
milkweed,
butterfly
guard
and
whatever
and
I
call
3-1-1,
there
should
be
some
clarity.
If
that
is
you
know,
illegal
or
good
weed
or
whatever
we're
calling
it.
D
So
they
can
keep
that
as
long
as
our
Health
Department
knows
that
you
know
it
has
not
been
cited.
Also,
for
you
know,
being
a
rodent
home,
so
I
do
think
it's
two
separate
things
and
I
would
like
clarity
on
that
and
I'm
happy
with
both
of
those
I.
Don't
love
the
lean
part,
but
if
we
need
the
lean
part
I'm
not
going
to
fight
that
either,
but
I
do
think
we.
We
need
kind
of
two
separate
things
here.
If
we
can
get
that
done
in
one
ordinance.
K
A
M
A
There
a
second
for
that:
okay,
we're
all
set
all
right;
okay!
Well,
that
was
fun:
okay,
we're
now
under
age,
age
2,
which
is
ordinance
48.
Oh
and
17.
Amending
the
city
code,
definitions
in
city
code,
section,
8,
14,
6,
penalty
of
title,
8,
chapter
14,
drug
paraphernalia,
control
of
the
administrative
dude
occasion,
officer,
sue
Brunner,
recommends
adoption
and
which
imposes
a
two
hundred
dollar
fine
for
violating
HUD
title
eight
chapter.
Fourteen
drug
paraphernalia
control,
it's
for
action
tonight.
Is
there
a
motion.
C
D
D
D
H
D
And
I
only
ask
that,
because
I'm
looking
at
these
things,
we
have
listed
and
I'm
thinking.
If
someone
has
I,
don't
whatever
it
is,
they
have
for
cannabis
and
that
you
know
cost
two
dollars
or
five
dollars
or
whatever
it
is,
and
then
they
have
maybe
200
fine
and
they
have
put
of
our
court
glosses
and
then
they
have
whatever
fine
they
might
have
for
not
being
able
to
pay
our
court
cost.
D
A
Ok,
I
was
just
curious
about
that.
Okay,
any
other
comments.
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
righty.
We
have
two
people
signed
up
to
speak
on
H,
h,
3,
h,
h,
3
is
ordinance
49
on
17
amending
the
city
code
by
adding
chapter
18
pavement
sealing
sealant
applications,
it's
recommended
by
the
Evanston
Environment
board
that
the
city
banned
the
use
of
coal
tar
pavement
sealers.
The
first
person
to
sign
up
for
citizen
comment.
Is
david
cantor,
followed
by
Elizabeth's
on
this
list
to
be?
O
Madam
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
as
you
can
see,
I
don't
have
the
same:
charming
accent
as
I
could
I
wish.
I
did
I.
Think
life
would
have
been
a
lot
different
for
me
if
I
had
I
represent
the
pavement
coding,
Technology
Council,
as
a
trade
association
that
is
based
in
Alexandria
Virginia,
which
represents
the
interest
of
the
manufacturers
of
pavement
sealants,
including
coal.
Tar
pavement
sealants
I'd.
Ask
that
the
City
Council
excuse
me
I'd.
O
Tar
pavement
sealants
I
have
the
feeling
that
the
answer
is
no,
so
without
doing
any
testing.
This
proposed
ordinance
truly
is
a
solution
in
search
of
a
problem
until
Evanston
tested,
stormwater,
runoff,
the
lake
water
near
its
beaches
or
any
water
source.
The
perp
as
I,
said
the
proposal
ordinance
is
a
solution
in
search
of
a
problem.
O
The
environmental
board
seems
to
be
concerned
with
PAHs
polycyclic
aromatic
hydrocarbons
simply
because
a
substance
has
PAHs
is
not
a
basis
to
ban
it.
Pahs
are
everywhere,
they've
been
in
the
earth
part
of
the
earth
since
the
beginning
of
time,
they're
created
whenever
you
have
incomplete
combustion
of
any
organic
material,
the
number
one
source
of
PAHs
vehicle
emissions.
Any
time
you
run
your
automobile,
your
truck,
your
lawnmower,
you
are
emitting
volumes
of
PAHs
into
the
environment.
The
second
major
source
of
PAHs
are
wood
fires
that
could
be
in
your
fireplace
in
your
fire
pit.
O
A
bonfire
anytime.
You
have
combustion
you're,
going
to
release
pH
C's
into
the
environment.
Phs
are
also
found
in
grilled
and
barbecued
meats,
smoked,
fish,
chocolates,
roasted
coffee
beans.
Really
the
list
is
endless,
and
certainly
none
of
those
products
which
contain
PAHs
have
ever
been
the
subject
of
a
proposed
ban
here
in
Evanston
or
anywhere
else
now.
The
response
normally
is
yes,
but
PAHs
are
known
to
cause
cancer.
Well,
it
is
true
that
some
individual
PAHs
have
been
demonstrated
to
cause
cancer
in
laboratory
mice.
Other
PAHs,
individual
P
ages
have
not
had
the
same
effect.
O
They
have
not
been
linked
to
cancer
and
laboratory
mice,
but
no
one
outside
a
laboratory
is
ever
exposed
to
individual
PAHs.
They
come
in
mixtures
and
there
is
no
evidence
that
any
mixture
of
PAHs,
including
the
mixture
that's
in
coal
tar,
pavement
sealants,
has
ever
caused
an
increased
risk
or
a
done
disease
in
anyone.
So
there
just
is
no
medical
literature
to
support
that
conclusion.
O
Besides,
there
are
multiple
products
available
for
sale
in
Evanston,
which
contains
substances
that
are
known
to
cause
cancer,
cigarettes,
smokeless,
tobacco,
pesticides,
alcohol
bacon,
red
meat,
fried
foods,
tanning
beds.
All
of
these
products
contain
substances
or
themselves
are
known
to
cause
cancer,
so
the
mere
fact
enter.
O
I
will
on
the
mere
fact
that
something
has
been
associated
with
causing
cancer
is
again
not
a
reason
in
and
of
itself
to
have
an
ordinance
to
ban
it.
As
I
mentioned,
I
have
and
I
have
with
me,
materials
which
discuss
why
coal
tar
sealants
are
a
safe
product,
they've
been
used
safely
for
decades,
and
why
the
environmental
board
has
been
relying
on
literature
that
has
been
produced
by
and
circulated
by,
the
United
States
Geological
Survey
these
materials.
A
O
P
Chairman
fish
and
members
of
the
Human
Services
Committee
I
am
Elizabeth
Kitty
I'm,
a
resident
of
evidence
and
I'm
here
as
co-president
of
the
League
of
Women
Voters
of
Evanston
and
I'm
here
to
voice
the
league.
Strong
support
for
the
environment
boards
proposed
ban
on
the
use
of
coal
tar
sealants
in
Evanston
has
mr.
Cantor
mentioned
coal.
Tar
sealants
contain
poly
aromatic
hydrocarbons
and
the
called
paws.
They
are
known
to
be
toxic
to
aquatic
life
and
probable
carcinogens.
P
The
US
Geological
Survey
found
that
in
areas
where
coal
tar
sealants
are
used
level
of
pauses
differently
higher
than
in
other
other
areas
and
living
next
to
cold,
our
sealant
coated
areas
put
presidents
at
a
much
higher
risk
of
cancer.
The
reasonable
alternatives
available
at
reasonable
prices.
The
new
response
to
mr.
Cantor
I
would
say
that
I
can
choose
what
I
want
to
eat
chocolate
or
not,
but
I
can't
choose
whether
or
not
my
neighbor
decides
to
use
the
coal
tar
sealant
on
the
driveway
over
time.
The
coal
tar
sealants
particle
breaks
into
particles.
P
P
P
We
would
urge
you
to
support
the
ordinance
of
many
other
communities
based
upon
their
own.
Research
have
banned
the
use
of
coal
tar
sealants,
including
Winnetka
Wilmette,
Highland,
Park
and
South
Barrington
distance
named
some
of
the
local
ones
it
started
started
in
Austin
Texas.
Some
whole
states
have
banned
the
use
of
coal
tar
sequins
like
Minnesota
and
Washington,
so
we
would
see
there's
no
reason
to
do
any
further
study
that
it's
what
we
have
all
reasonable
alternatives
and
there's
no
need
to
expose
our
residents
to
this
Siwon.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
F
F
F
A
A
Okay,
do
it's
for
action
or
for
introduction
which
okay,
okay
and
I'm-
sorry
I,
don't
remember.
Was
it
moved
and
seconded?
Who
wants?
Okay?
We
don't
we
don't
know
who
moved
in
seconded.
K
E
E
F
C
C
A
E
G
A
C
C
F
A
E
Q
Thank
you,
I'm
thanking
mam,
chair
and
members
of
the
Human
Services
Committee,
our
FDA
empowerment
coordinator,
Patricia
FCM,
has
been
working
on
in
equity,
empowerment
survey
report
and
she
would
like
to
present
that
in
front
of
the
Human
Services
Committee
and
we
prior
to
her
first
her
next
scheduled
public
meeting
in
August,
and
so
she
wants
to
be
report
out
at
that
August
meeting
on
her
finding
and
but
she
would
like
to
have
that
first
be
presented
to
Human
Service
Committee.
Before
going
to
the
public
meeting.
So
we
went
Glen.
Q
On
her
report
that
she
so
can
I
speak
too
much
to
this
right.
I
haven't
been
getting
much
detail,
but
it
is
from
the
communication
of
the
previous
means
that
she
held
to
discuss
equity
apartment
issues
happening
in
Adamson,
and
so
this
is
her
report
back
to
Human
Services
community.
Before
going
in
front
of
to
her
public
of
additional
public
meetings
in
August
in
September,
I
believe
the
date
for
those
meetings
are
my
computer's
flow.
Let's
see
here,
I.
A
C
A
C
A
E
A
J
The
incident
that
I
complained
about
was
due
to
a
move
that
I
had
to
make
within
Evanston
here
and
on
7
December
2016
I
wrote
a
lengthy
description,
detailed
description
of
that
that
was
available
to
you
to
review
in
that
description
or
the
whole
report.
Finally
came
up
on
the
website.
I
was
not
told
where
to
find
it.
J
Commander's
right
was
going
to
tell
me
on
Thursday
and
I
guess
it
didn't
even
get
there
till
Friday,
so
I
finally
saw
it
tonight
and
there
are,
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
a
lot
of
discrepancies
and
errors
in
in
the
actual
investigation
of
which
I
have
not
had
an
opportunity
nor
see
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
I.
Don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
discuss
anything
about
the
move
and
the
police
involvement.
J
It
is
been
a
very
large
report
that
AARP
just
came
out
with
described
a
moving
scam,
almost
identical
to
the
one
that
I
was
involved
in.
There
were
a
lot
of
League
illegal
parts.
They
were
I
had
a
quote.
This
company
Joey's
movers,
was
charging
me
five
times
what
I
had
been
quoted,
which
was
is
determined
to
be
illegal
and
they
were
trying
they
had
been.
There
guys
had
been
told
to
hold
a
family
piano
in
the
truck
and
return
it
and
I
didn't
know.
If
I
was
ever
going
to
see
it
again.
J
J
The
dispatch
picked
up,
told
me
it
was
a
civil
case
and
she
couldn't
send
anybody
out,
wouldn't
send
they
didn't
send
anybody
out
for
civil
cases,
I
told
her
I
felt
endangered,
as
was
and
that
they
were
holding
my
piano
going
to
steal
it
as
far
as
I
was
concerned,
so
they
did
send
two
officers
out
the
long
end
of
it.
For
me,
I
did
ultimately
feel
that
there
was
a
bias
age
bias,
a
gender
bias
and
a
race
bias
that
played
a
strong
role
in
how
my
case
was
handled
on
site.
J
That
night,
so
I,
along
with
a
friend,
took
my
complaint
to
the
two
chief
Eddington's.
He
interns
that
told
me
and
my
friend
that
civil
cases
have
not
been
handled
well
by
the
officers
and
the
police
department.
I
thought
it
was
interesting
to
begin
with
that
a
dispatcher
could
legally
to
define
it
as
a
civil
case.
I
have
since
found
out
that
a
dispatchers
Minor
requirement
is
a
high
school
education
and
how
they
make
a
legal
description
or
determined
on
what
my
case
is
sight.
Unseen.
J
Very
little
information
I'm
still
interested
in
that,
so
they
finally
did
send
two
officers
out
and
I
felt
that
well
excuse
me:
I
got
off
track
there,
so
we're
talking
to
chief
Eddington.
He
says
they're,
not
it's
not
handled.
Well,
then.
He
also
tells
me
that
he
nor
his
wife
have
never
had
any
problems
with
moving
and
my
friend
and
I
said:
yeah
you're,
the
chief
of
police
and
you're
male
and
miss.
D
J
Feel
that
the
investigative
process
in
this
case
is
a
closed
in
circular
one,
where
perpetrator
and
investigator
are
one
in
the
same
so
intimately
conducted
as
to
prevent
proper
transparency.
My
case
was
only
heard
by
one
citizen
committee.
Usually
it's
by
two
and
I've
been
told
that
the
chief
would
disband
him
his
someplace
in
my
well.
My
case
was
being
looked
at.
I've
had
no
chance
to
respond
to
to
what
every
part
was
unfounded.
J
I
think
it's
a
travesty
that
the
citizen
issue
issuing
the
complaint
has
no
voice
in
the
process
for
rebuttal
for
questions
or
for
more
answers.
The
intent
of
the
process
seems
to
be
to
ensure
the
silence
of
the
complainant
and
clearly
that
is
not
working
for
the
citizens
of
this
community.
There
needs
to
be
clear
communication
in
writing.
What
the
rights
are
for
appeal
I
had
to
ask.
If
I
even
could
talk
about
this
anyplace
and
I
finally
found
out.
At
least
you
would
listen
here.
J
I
have
asked
both
chief
Eddington
and
commander
right
if
these
two
officers
that
had
any
extensive
training
and
dealing
with
the
elderly
or
senior
citizens,
they
could
not
tell
me
yet
that
issue
about
training
was
stamped.
My
questions
about
how
much
training
they
had
was
stamped
as
unfounded.
Miss.
J
R
Thank
you
for
letting
me
see
you
two
of
my
minutes,
I'll
be
very
quick
to
kill
Fonda.
Second
word
and
I
came
in
supportive,
miss
Ford.
She
called
me
to
find
out
if
she
had
any
right
following
this
complaint
that
she
made
to
professional
standards
some
time
ago,
and
she
should
not
have
been
calling
me.
She
should
have
been
told
that
she
had
the
right
I,
also
understand.
R
I
think
this
case
underscores
the
serious
need
for
that
and
I
also
think,
as
miss
Ford
said
that
there
is
that
all
of
this,
both
the
police
response,
as
well
as
joeys
movers
behavior,
was
colored
in
many
ways
by
age
and
gender.
So
I
would
urge
your
committee
not
to
approve
the
unfounded
nature
or
the
unfounded
decision
by
professional
standards
and
the
civilian
review
committee
that
did
review
this
case.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chairman
and
committee
members,
I
didn't
know
the
agenda
was
published
until
today.
I
didn't
realize
you
had
a
75-page
packet.
I
was
not
prepared
to
speak
until
I
saw
some
details
in
that
packet,
particularly
the
fee.
At
the
end
of
your
packet
there's
a
section
of
completed
complaint
registers
and
departmental
inquiries.
In
this
particular
case,
CR
1701
was
disposed
as
as
unfounded.
L
Your
definitions
of
unfounded
dispositions
are,
and
I
quote
the
words
allegations
false,
no
credible
evidence
to
support
them.
I
am
the
friend
that
Bonnie
refers
to
I
can
tell
you
that
there
was
a
traumatic
experience
on
her
part.
I
was
with
her
at
Eddington's
office
and
believe
me,
her
her
accusations
are
not
at
all
false,
so
I
think
that
that
needs
to
be
taken
into
consideration
as
well.
Thank
you
thank.
A
Ok,
yes,
I,
do
we?
What
do
we
want
to
do.
E
N
C
D
Thank
you
for
Miss
Ford
for
being
here.
I
did
have
several
questions
from
reading,
both
the
internal
report
and
miss
Ford.
Some
type
report,
my
first
one
commander
right.
A
few
know
the
answer
to
this
miss
Ford
mentioned
where
we
mentioned
I,
guess
in
the
report,
or
someone
mentioned
in
all
these
pages-
that
there
was
a
she
received.
A
phone
call
about
10
o'clock
at
night.
I
think
two
phone
calls.
D
She
was
very
clear
and
given
a
number-
and
it
says
that
an
officer
I,
guess
someone
call
identified
himself
and
said
he
wanted
to
speak
to
her.
So
my
question
because
I
didn't
see
any
other
follow-up
there
is.
Is
that
something
that
you
investigated?
And
can
you
give
me
more
information
as
to
if
that
was
a
call
placed
by
our
Police
Department
as
and
if
that's
something
that's
customary
in
the
process
of
reviewing
a
case
complaint
no.
N
That
wasn't
part
of
the
investigation,
I
did
explain
to
Miss
Ford
and
on
the
onset
of
our
conversation
it
would
appear
that
chief
Eddington
had
directed
one
of
the
deputies
to
go.
Have
the
sergeant
contact
miss
Ford
before
this
complaint
was
filed,
an
attempt
to
get
resolved?
The
officer
in
question
is
a
midnight
officer.
Therefore,
the
supervisor
was
at
midnight
supervisor
his
the
first
attempt
to
contact
her
was
at
approximately
8:30
midnight
officers
typically
start
around
10:15,
but
they
do
have
a
long
night
in
which
they
start
early.
N
D
And
so
I
had
another
question
and
she
will
bear
with
me
and
I.
Guess
it's
if
you
can
now
or
another
time,
explain
to
me
somewhat
of
this
process,
because
I'm
saying
that
she
provided
us
with
a
very
lengthy
detail
of
what
happened
and
then
I'm.
Looking
at
what
the
internal
board
decided
and
I
guess.
My
concerns
are
that
there
are
some
things
that
are
subjective
to
me.
D
So
when
I
might
describe
someone
as
being
disrespectful,
it
might
be
something
that
someone
might
someone
else
might
not
Phyllis
disrespectful
and
then
there's
also
the
idea
that
we
used
the
witness
who
was
the
owner
of
the
moving
company,
who
I
would
assume,
is
biased
to
his
moving
company
and
kind
of
took
into
consideration
when
he
said,
via
telephone,
at
least
on
this
page
I'm.
Looking
at
so
it
seems,
like
obviously
miss
Ford's.
D
Interpretation
of
the
experience
is
very
different
than
the
officers
and
then
you
know
very
different
than
the
movers,
so
I
guess,
if
you
can
help
me
understand
how
we
then
try
to
make
the
decision
as
to
who
is
actually
right
in
the
case,
because
I'm
assuming
mr.
Joey
movers
is
not
going
to
tell
us
that
his
movers
are
disrespectful
and
we're
trying
to
hold
the
lady's
piano
and
I.
Will.
D
You
know,
be
the
first
to
admit
that
I
have
been
in
her
shoes
where
I've
had
a
whole
carload
of
furniture,
a
truckload
of
furniture
held
in
front
of
my
house
for
six
hours
on
a
Sunday,
but
the
moving
company,
maybe
is
not
going
to
be
very
forthright
and
given
that
information
to
the
police
so
I,
just
because
she
gave
such
a
lengthy
report
here,
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
decide
what
is
disrespectful
and
what
is
truthful.
When
were
the
person
we're
asking
is
the
one
who
maybe
is
in
the
wrong.
N
Okay,
so
in
regards
to
the
witness
we
can
only
use
whatever
witness
is
available
to
us,
so
it
wouldn't
be
any
different
if
it
was
a
witness
on
behalf
of
the
police
department.
Okay,
on
behalf
of
the
complainant,
we
could
only
talk
to
you
know
who
is
there
as
far
as
the
allegations
themselves
or
specific
allegations
were
that
the
dispatcher
failed
to
dispatch
the
the
police
are
and
in
fact
told
her
that
they
weren't
sending
the
police
out.
N
The
initial
conversation
with
the
dispatcher,
the
dispatcher,
informed
her
in
fact
that
it
was
civil,
a
civil
situation,
but
we
will
send
the
police
out.
She
also
informed
her
that
there
weren't
any
cars
available
and
that
we
would
send
one
out
as
soon
as
they
were
available,
so
she
never
deny.
Then
the
police
and
Miss
Ford
never
related
to
her
that
her
life
was
in
jeopardy.
She
simply
used
the
language
that
they're
holding
my
piano
hostage
in
regards
to
how
we
figure
out
who's
actually
telling
the
truth
is
based
on
the
evidence
that's
submitted.
N
You
know
the
officers
were
interviewed
in
this
case.
As
far
as
the
threats
were
made,
she
said,
I
was
threatened
with
arrest,
but
both
officers
stated
that,
as
the
situation
progressed,
miss
for
refused
to
leave
the
cab,
the
moving
truck
of
the
movers.
So
at
that
point
in
the
dispute
they
informed
her
that
she
was
in
fact
criminal,
trespassing
and
she
could
be
arrested.
They
also
say
that
they
inform
her
that
anyone
arrested,
but
that
would
could
be
an
outcome
if
she
didn't
remove
herself
from
it
from
the
cab.
N
F
Alderman
over
the
hill,
so
when
the
I
have
to
get
my
name's
sorted
out
here,.
F
N
After
the
investigation
is
complete
and
all
the
supervisors
sign
off
on
it,
then
the
summary
of
the
report
goes
to
feedback,
which
is
a
citizen's
police
advisory
community.
They
review
that
and
any
additional
information
that
they
request
amid
a
make
a
determination
individually,
but
that
process
isn't
until
after
the
entire
case
is
complete
in
this.
Given
a
disposition
and
a
recommendation
of
their
discipline
involved,
miss
Ford
mentioned
that
her
case
only
went
to
one
committee,
and
that
was
before.
N
F
N
N
J
A
D
If
they
choose,
but
so
my
question
here,
if
I
go
back
to
the
first
part,
so
the
first
charge
disrespectful
behavior
so
I'm,
assuming
that
we
have
some
kind
of
standard
as
to
what
that
is.
But
I
think
that
for
me
and
maybe
thinking
of
an
a
person
who
is
a
senior
citizen,
there
might
be
some
different
standards
that
they
have
in
terms
of
disrespectful,
behavior
and
so
I.
D
Guess:
I,
don't
know
what
I
expect
to
do
that
at
this
point,
but
just
I
hope
that
we're
mindful
of
that
when
we're
processing
these
things
and
what
I
think
is
a
suspect
was
a
woman-
is
maybe
different
than
a
man.
But
then
my
other
question
went
back
to
her
statement.
If
you
can
give
me
some
clarity
at
what
is
the
stage
at
which
a
complaint
is
then
told
what
happens
with
their
case
and
if
they
have
something
at
which
they
do
want
to
rebuttal
or
what-have-you
like.
D
N
N
The
report
will
be
posted
once
it
was
filed
to
have
her
view.
This
report,
before
as
posted
to
the
website,
would
mean
that
she's
reviewing
a
report
before
the
committee
sees
it.
So
there's
no
way
I
can
give
her
their
report
for
her
to
tax
questions
about
before
is
posted
to
the
website
because
then
I'm
in
jeopardy
of
releasing
the
port
before
you
guys
have
an
opportunity
to
view
it.
E
E
Pursuant
of
to
v
Illinois
compute
compiled
statutes,
I
move
that
the
Human
Services
Committee
convene
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
complaints
lodged
against
personnel.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted
subject
to
be
considered
in
executive
session
and
our
numerated
exceptions
under
the
Open
Meetings
X
to
successfully
is
five
ILCs
xx
and
is
set
forth
as
follows:
Street
a
second
second.
E
A
Okay,
that's
that's
fine.
Are
there.
J
A
A
S
Good
evening,
Deputy
Chief
Eric
from
the
police
department,
few
things
that
I'm
going
to
bring
up
on
the
work
plan,
some
updates.
First
one
is
progress
with
dr.
Logan
in
from
May
15th
through
the
May
25th,
approximately
80
personnel
from
APD
took
part
in
seven
different
affinity
groups
and
focus
groups
that
were
presented
through
dr.
Logan,
and
we
also
have
set
the
town
hall
community
meeting
with
dr.
Logan,
that's
going
to
take
place
on
June
20th
at
the
parasol
room.
The
focus
of
that
meeting
will
be
cultural
awareness
and
community
policing.
S
There
is
going
to
be
four
town
hall
meetings,
those
other
meetings
which
dates
have
not
been
set
yet
we'll
deal
with
meetings
we'll
deal
with
drugs
and
gang
issues,
unsolved
homicides,
social
media
and
crime
prevention
and
then
also
a
meeting
on
rights
and
responsibilities.
The
police
department
hopes
that
these
meetings
will
bring
dialog
from
citizens
to
make
police
in
the
community
relationships
closer
and
dissolving
any
layers
of
distrust,
and
they
exist
between
the
community
and
police.
S
S
S
One
of
the
big
topics
I'd
like
to
speak
about
tonight
before
you
are
the
body
camera
trial
that
we
recently
just
started.
So
a
little
background
that
Evanston
PD
and
Northwestern
University
police
obtained
a
grant
through
the
Bureau
of
Justice
Assistance
for
a
joint
partnership
on
body
cameras
body
cameras
our
best
practice.
S
Now
it's
involving
technology
throughout
the
country
that
has
been
used
to
help
with
police
accountability,
police
complaint
process
and
allowing
for
you
know
much
better
transparency
when
dealing
with
police
complaints
and
issues
that
officers
face
and
also
issues
in
the
community
I
had
were
actually
brought
a
camera
along
tonight.
As
one
of
the
cameras
that
we're
using
in
the
trial,
it's
not
on
right
now,
but
is
we
have
currently
an
EP
D?
S
We
have
nine
officers
and
two
sergeants
that
are
in
the
trial
program
that
are,
and
those
were
went
into
effect
on
Friday
June,
2nd.
We
also
had
posted
up
on
the
website.
A
survey
for
citizens
to
look
over
that
survey
entails
contact
with
the
police
what
their
opinion
is
of
the
police
contact
and
also
what
they
feel
about
body
cameras
and
also
they
can
make
comments
regarding
what
their
thoughts
are
on
us
utilizing
body
cameras
in
the
community.
S
We
also
posted
the
link
to
the
Illinois
law
on
body
cameras
and
also
our
draft
policy
on
body
cameras
and
part
of
that
policy
is
written
where
it
has.
Certain
factors
have
to
include
portions
of
Illinois
law,
Northwestern
University
police.
They
are
very
close
and
similar
timeline
with
us
with
the
trial.
My
understanding
is
tomorrow
they
will
be
implementing
their
trial
effective
tomorrow,
working.
A
C
S
Come
with
the
during
the
trial
officers
that
there's
various
ways
to
mount
it,
but
basically
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be
mounted
is
centered
chest
or
somewhere
up
on
the
upper
torso.
So
it
can
get
a
view
of
you
know
it
where
it's
high
enough,
where
you
can
view
faces
and
also
it'll
view
it.
Basically
that
particular
model
body
camera
has
a
one
hundred
forty
three
degree
lens.
So
it's
a
wide-angle
lens
it
records
in
HD
and
it's
a
fairly
simple
thing
to
use.
Basically,
the
camera
turns
on
there's
a
switch
to
turn
it
on.
S
It
goes
through
a
boot
up
process
which
takes
about
five
seconds
and
then
there's
a
circular
button
on
the
front
of
the
camera
which
to
activate
it.
The
officer
has
to
tap
it
twice.
The
reason
they
do,
that
is
so
it's
not
inadvertently
turned
on
and
but
to
turn
it
off.
They
actually
have
to
hold
it
down
for
four
seconds.
So
it's
a
deliberate
action
actually
turn
off
the
camera
and
the
way
the
policy
is
worded
in
Illinois
law
is
that
officers
have
to
when
they're
involved
in
a
law
enforcement
function
or
activity.
S
The
camera
has
to
be
activated,
there
are
some
exceptions
and
that
exception
is
what's
considered
a
community
caretaking
event
under
Illinois
law,
so
that
might
be
something
like
helping
a
lost
child
or
making
a
death
notification.
In
those
particular
cases.
The
camera
does
not
need
to
be
turned
on.
S
In
some
cases,
some
departments
consider
community
caretaking,
taking
a
missing
person
report,
so
those
are
just
kind
of
examples
of
how,
but
any
law
enforcement
related
activity
where
they're
responding
to
the
camera
has
to
be
activated
and
what
this
camera
technology
does
we've
been
using
for
over
10
years,
car
cameras,
but
car
cameras
obviously
are
in
the
car
they're
part
of
the
roadway
or
something
just
adjacent
to
the
roadway.
This
expands
that
ability
to
go
way
beyond
in
the
structures.
You
know
into
backyards
things
that
were
not
normally
captured
on
on
the
car.
S
If
you
have
any
questions,
I,
you
know
be
happy
to
take
any
we
plan
on
having
these
cameras
in
the
field
for
the
trial
for
the
next
month
and
then
but
there's
also
some
other
things
that
we're
doing
on
the
back
end,
which
you
know
evaluating
videos.
You
know
we
have
to
deal
with
weird
action:
complying
with
subpoenas
FOIA
requests
that
you
know
that
it
basically
takes
sometimes
quite
a
bit
of
time
to
to
make
those
videos
accessible.
So
so.
S
Actually,
the
particular
vendor
that
the
the
camera
that
we're
using
right
now
is
when
the
officers
get
done
with
their
shift.
They
take
the
camera.
There's
a
dock.
That's
hooked
up
through
a
through
an
Ethernet
cable
that
uploads
to
a
cloud,
and
then
those
videos
are
available
for
review.
Those
videos
can't
be
altered
or
deleted
everything.
That's
done.
What
those
videos
is
done
by
state
is
regulated
by
state
statute,
and
so
currently
officers
have
the
ability,
with
this
particular
brand,
to
even
before
it's
uploaded.
S
If
there's
a
particular
incident,
they
can
actually
view
the
video
through
a
an
iPad
device,
or
you
know
smartphone.
They
can
actually
pull
up
the
video
and
review
it
to
a
system
either
with
writing
the
report
or
just
making
having
some
more
details
available
to
them
regarding
what
was
in
the
video
and
then
once
it's
uploaded.
S
They
don't
have
that
capability
anymore,
but
they
will
have
the
ability
to
access
it,
and
then
they
could
label
that,
whether
it's
through
a
case
number
type
of
incident
and
then
those
videos
are
also
they
can
make
a
case
where
they
can
other
officers
that
were
at
the
scene.
Also,
where
it's
made
into
one
large
file,
so
it's
basically
the
files
are
the
video
files
are
easily
tied
to
one
incident,
so
we
can
look
it
up
by
date,
time
or
type
of
incident,
or
specifically
the
officer.
Okay,.
S
Actually,
under
the
Vilna
body
camera
log
date,
it's
interesting
there's
it's
the
way
it's
listed
in
the
statute.
It's
FOIA
exempt,
with
the
exception
of
numerous
things,
and
some
of
those
things
that
are
listed
are
use
of
force
incidents
by
officer,
if
there's
great
bodily
harm
or
death
shown
in
a
video.
If
there's
a
police
complaint,
the
officer
is
under
investigation
for
misconduct,
so
there's
various
things
that
can
trigger
you
know
where
that
were
they
may
be
available,
depends
on
who's
in
the
video.
S
You
know
some
certain
permissions
like
for
a
victim
or
witness
it's
in
the
video
they
would
have
to
get
permission
or
their
legal
representative
would
have
to
get
permission
to
release
the
video
without
some
type
of
redaction,
so
that
there's
there's
some
nuances
to
the
law
that
affords
some
protections,
but
also
some
of
it
is
available.
Alderman.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
the
update,
so
we
have
our
second
war
meeting
this
Thursday
to
the
police
station.
Are
you
available
to
be
present
to
share
that
with
the
residents?
Sure
absolutely,
and
my
second
question
is:
are
we
able
to
show
through
a
screen
what
the
site
of
view
is
for
the
camera?
So
now
yeah.
S
E
F
The
river
bills-
yes,
I,
have
a
question
about
a
different
part
of
the
work
plan
that
wasn't
done.
It's
not
the
subject
of
your
update
because
it
was
completed
a
while
ago.
This
is
number
17,
the
Civic
Center
office
hours
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
what
we've?
What
we've
done
to?
Let
the
public
know
that
that
option
is
available.
I
know.
S
F
Right,
I
guess:
I
well,
I
went
on
the
police
web
web
page
just
to
see
if
there
was
any
information
there.
That
would
really
make
it
clear
that
that
was
an
option
and
it
seems
to
me
we
at
least
at
that
we
could
make
it
a
lot
more
obvious.
Just
on
the
police
website
and
whether
there's
other
ways
we
could
get
that
information.
S
Yeah
I
think
I
think
what
was
decided
in
and
I.
Don't
quote
me
on
this,
but
I
believe
that,
because
having
set
hours
at
the
Civic
Center,
where
some
there
was
a
complainant
and
they
wanted
to
meet
off-site
at
the
Civic
Center,
that
was
a
more
viable
option.
So
the
officers
weren't
just
sitting
in
a
set
design,
you
could
still
perform
their
duties
right,
but
I
can
check
in
no
right.
It's.
F
L
D
S
I
spoke
actually
spoke
to
Commander
Dugan
about
that
who's,
working
with
Hillary
out
of
the
city
manager's
office,
and
so
they
I
believe
they've
decided
on
what
the
measurements
are
going
to
be
and
I
think
they're
just
trying
to
figure
out
the
actual
format
of
the
presentation
on
on
the
dashboard.
So
those
are
just
a
few
things
that
need
to
be
figured
out.
I
hope
that
does
that
answer.
A
It's
interesting
that
we're
talking
tonight
about
weeds
because
Carolyn
could
make
could
make
anything
grow
without
even
paying
any
attention
to
it.
Things
which
is
bloom
for
her
and
I
think
that
that
really
speaks
a
lot
about
who
she
was
and
the
love
she
shared
with
all
living
things.
So
my
heartfelt
prayers
go
out
to
her
three
daughters
and
the
rest
of
her
family
and
she
will
be
sorely
missed.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
that
that,
if
nothing
else
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn.