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A
Good
evening,
everyone
this
is
the
Human
Services
Committee,
it's
Monday
August
7th
at
6:12
I'm.
Sorry
I
was
late
to
keep
you
all
waiting,
but
we'll
get
busy.
There
is
a
quorum,
and
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes
of
July
10th.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
any
changes.
A
Ok,
then,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
Ok,
we'll
go
on
to
items
for
consideration
and
there
are
no
items
for
consideration.
Okay,
so
items
for
discussion.
The
first
is
hh1.
Please
issues
work
plan
update,
we've
got
a
number
of
people
who
are
signed
up
to
speak
so
we'll
take
citizen
comment.
First,
everyone
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
B
Good
evening
tonight,
I
have
a
short
story
to
share
about
a
12
year
old
friend
of
mine,
who
is
writing
on
the
pegs
of
his
friend's
BMX
bike.
While
another
friend
was
riding
on
the
handlebars.
Yes,
three
kids
on
a
bike
is
a
cause
for
anyone
to
call
for
safer
behavior,
but
in
this
case
the
riders
were
not
given
a
talking-to
during
a
teachable
moment,
but
were
arrested
by
the
Evanston
police
arrested
12
year
olds
for
hanging
around
downtown
and
goofing
off
as
middle
schoolers.
B
Will
the
riders
not
the
kid
pedaling,
were
placed
in
a
paddy
wagon,
a
metal
box
without
being
able
to
call
their
parents
taken
to
the
station?
You
will
hear
more
about
this
in
due
course
of
a
formal
complaint.
I.
Imagine
so
I'm
going
to
switch
gears
and
offer
the
perspective
and
the
angry
and
very
frustrated
citizen.
B
Oh
and
surely
you
don't
need
for
me
to
tell
you
what
color
these
children
were?
Do
you
here
is
an
opinion
piece
from
NPR
code-switch,
a
series
about
race
and
identity.
I
have
a
copy
I'll
leave
with
each
of
you,
the
criminal
defense
lawyers
who
authored
this
piece
point
out
that
when
mistrust
and
alienation
from
the
police
begins
at
such
a
young
age,
it
is
harmful.
Regardless
of
the
outcome
of
any
specific
incident.
B
These
attitudes
will
harden
as
black
youngsters
become
black
teenagers
and
adults
and
are
constantly
stopped
for
being
who
they
are,
and
we
should
not
then
be
surprised
at
a
lack
of
trusting
and
engaged
relationship
with
the
police
when
we
start
criminalizing
normal
behavior
at
12
years
of
age.
We
reap
what
we
have
sown.
B
We
desperately
need
high-quality
and
in-depth
training
of
police
officers
who
interact
with
the
citizens
of
this
city
to
understand
implicit
bias,
because,
certainly
most,
if
not
all,
APD
officers
are
good
folk,
but
just
as
surely
are
the
victims
of
our
white
supremacy
culture
and
the
unfortunate
over
militarized
police
training
they
receive.
These
officers
need
to
be
trained
until
they
develop
actual
empathy
for
the
citizenry
they
serve.
They
need
to
be
trained
to
talk
with
young
people,
rather
than
grab
them
by
the
arm
and
take
them
into
custody.
B
We
all
know
that
black
children
are
seen
as
older
and
more
aggressive
than
their
white
counterparts,
and
these
implicit
biases
absolutely
do
contribute
to
the
racial
patterns
of
police,
contacts
and
arrests.
We
see
here
in
Evanston
until
you,
the
Human
Services
Committee,
the
city
and
the
police,
every
single
one
of
them
understands
this.
It's
foolish
to
talk
about
simply
improving
our
police
complaint
process.
D
I'm
Alice
berry
I
live
at
1630
Main
Street
after
hearing
about
the
incident
that
you've
just
heard
described
by
a
Karin
Court
right
I
have
some
questions.
I
have
some
statistics
that
Opel
got
from
EPD,
showing
the
number
of
juveniles
arrested
in
Evanston
during
2016
by
race,
but
I,
don't
know
the
age
of
these
kids
or
their
gender
or
what
they
were
arrested
for.
D
Second,
what
did
the
statistics
show
about
white
kids
getting
arrested
on
similar
charges
to
what
happened
here?
If
the
number
of
white
kids
is
disproportionately
low,
then
I
think
we're
talking
about
implicit
bias,
playing
a
role
in
arrests
and,
if
so,
can
II
PD
admit
to
the
rule
that
bias
is
playing.
So
we
can
have
a
serious
discussion
about
that
and
do
what
needs
to
be
done.
D
Third,
what
is
the
policy
that
governs
incidents
like
this
and
was
it
followed
in
this
case?
I
took
the
Citizens
Police
Academy
course
last
year,
looking
through
my
notes
on
the
presentation
about
juveniles,
which
I
remember
being
an
excellent
presentation,
it
appears
to
have
been
mostly
about
incidents
at
ETA,
chess
and
school
resource
officers.
D
Finally,
in
thinking
about
this,
it's
hard
for
me
to
forget
the
worst
kind
of
police,
juvenile
interaction
involving
another
12
year
old
boy,
Tamir
rice,
who
was
shot
on
a
playground
because
he
was
viewed
as
an
adult
level
threat
by
the
police
officer
who
killed
him.
What
assurance
will
EPD
give
to
me
and
to
Evanston's
black
community
that
it's
doing
everything
that
can
be
done
to
make
sure
that
no
black
child
is
ever
killed
by
an
Evanston
police
officer,
I?
D
E
Good
evening,
the
incident
that
has
been
that
is
being
discussed,
the
Karen
talks
that
Alice
brought.
That
is
what
the
citizens
network
of
protection.
That
is,
the
things
that
our
proposal
is
putting
forth
to
address.
We
are
not
that
much
and
that
only
concern
has
been
stated
with
the
complaint
process.
E
There
are
the
cases
in
there
are
ways
and
things
that
things
should
happen.
We
do
not
know
how
we
seen
all
of
the
policies
that
address
juveniles
they
used
to
have
one
about
the
curfew.
If
you
broke
the
curfew,
the
black
kids
went
to
the
police
department,
the
white
kids
stayed
in
front
of
the
theater
and
wait
for
their
pins.
That
went
on
for
years.
E
We
talked
and
talked,
and
finally
we
thought
that
had
been
addressed
and
put
aside,
but
it
seems
to
be
creeping
back.
That
is
why
we
need
the
Oversight
Committee,
because
when
you
think
that
you
have
taken
care
of
the
issue
and
it's
no
longer
an
issue
in
our
community,
the
next
thing
we
know
is
back
boys
on
a
bike.
What
was
the
crime
that
those
kids
was
charged
with?
E
That
is
not
a
felony,
probably
not
a
misdemeanor
I
have
seen
kids
ride
on
top
of
bikes
and
everything,
and
when
I
was
young
and
braver
and
stupid,
not
knowing
that
I
could
kill
myself.
I
did
that,
but
I
was
not
arrested,
and
this
really
is
the
first
time
if
you
go
in
search
on
the
Internet
to
say
how
many
times
have
a
twelve-year-old
child
riding
on
hell,
Boggs
was
arrested
by
police.
I
will
look
that
up
and
we
will
put
it
out
there
and
probably
the
only
people
that
will
have
that
is
Evanston.
E
A
A
G
Name
is
Priscilla
Giles
and
I
am
speaking
in
favor
of
the
same
issue
that
ready
Esther
at
the
police
we
need.
We
need
a
police
reveal,
for
that
is
separate
from
the
city
for
separate
from
the
police
department,
and
when
I
spoke
with
the
mayor,
he
said
that
the
reason
that
this
new
one
is
overriding,
the
first
one
that
Betty
had
was
because
there
was
something
some
items
that
she
didn't
have,
but
all
her
all
of
her
things
were
in
order
if
that
needed
to
have
been
checked,
and
that
should
have
been
checked
with
her.
G
Not
not
a
new
committee
begun
without
it
any
without
any
talking
with
her.
They
I
never
saw
anyone
at
any
of
the
meetings.
I
didn't
know
to
every
single
one,
but
I
never
saw
any
of
the
people
who
are
on
this
new
committee
at
that
in
any
of
those
meetings.
I
just
think,
though,
we
are
overlooking
a
large
number
of
people
in
Evanston.
H
Okay,
Madeline
do
crease
I'm
out
of
breath.
I
walk
from
home.
My
grandchildren
put
my
bike
on
the
flat,
but
anyway,
okay,
I'd
like
to
speak
two
or
three
things.
First
thing
is
West
Branch,
Library,
I'm,
still
waiting
on
the
West
Branch
Library,
okay
grab
a
crown
over
there.
We
need
one
here
and
I'm
speaking
fast.
H
Okay,
so
I
also
want
to
speak
about
the
drugs,
though
overdose
and
I
hate
to
say
it
this
way,
but
I
have
to
simply
speak
in
the
rich
people,
get
help
the
poor
people
are
dying,
going
to
jail
or
whatever
for
drugs
out
here.
Okay,
not
fair,
not
the
last
one.
Real
quick
is
a
sanctuary,
see
I'm,
hoping
that
this
council
do
not
follow
suit.
Like
Chicago
is
okay
with
the
mayor
here:
I,
don't
understand
it,
I
really!
Don't.
Let
me
give
you
a
quick
scenario
here:
I
want
a
cruise
jump
and
July.
H
Okay
I
could
not
enter
any
one
of
those
countries
without
a
passport
okay
or
either
a
birth
certificate
and
some
lots
of
ID's.
If
that
I
have
to
have
some
kind
of
official
people
to
get
over
there
and
Jamaica,
Mexico
and
I
suppose
if
you
have
to
ride
the
pan,
you
definitely
have
to
have
a
passport.
Now
it
was
my
mistake.
My
fault
waiting
to
the
last
minute
thank
God.
H
Could
those
two
young
women
who
helped
me
and
that
clicked
office,
okay
and
then
I
had
a
problem
because
I
had
one
that
was
way
back
and
didn't
have
a
stamp
on
it.
So
let
me
tell
you
all
something:
we're
not
being
fair
to
the
people
here
in
America
I,
don't
have
no
problem.
I
do
not
want
to
split
up
families.
That
is
not
my
goal,
but
I
want
you
all
to
know.
We
are
breaking
the
law.
No,
not
me!
That's
your
responsibility,
you
are,
will
them
in
that's
your
responsibility.
You
broke
the
law.
H
H
We
must
take
care
of
the
people
and
this
country,
my
country,
my
country
too
I
see
many
times
that
our
children
and
I'm
tired
I've
been
on
that
cruise,
because
I
had
to
go
on
that
because
of
the
fear
of
water
that
big
ship
surrounded
by
water,
okay,
but
guess
what
I'm
almost
there
and
I
want
to
go
back.
I
saw
a
good
comedian
there,
too,
by
the
way
mark
Simmons
by
the
way,
but
anyway
that's
another
story.
H
But
let
me
tell
you
something:
we
have
got
to
start
doing
the
right
thing
for
the
people
here
in
America.
Okay,
children
are
going
to
jail
for
nothing.
We
have
CNP
year
trying
to
get
something
straight
now.
Hopefully
we
can
work
with
the
police.
I
am
speaking
tonight
for
the
color
networks,
equality
and
fairness,
because
that's
what
we
need
in
this
town.
H
A
I
J
Guess
I'll
just
make
a
quick
note
to
share
with
the
members
of
the
community
who
spoke
that
the
the
incident
that
was
brought
up
is
currently
under
investigation.
The
Chief
of
Police
is
on
vacation
and
as
soon
as
he
gets
back,
there
will
be
a
meeting
with
the
chief
and
the
family
to
dig
deeper
into
the
situation
so
I'm
sure.
For
myself,
members
of
the
committee.
We
appreciate
the
concern
that
was
raised.
J
A
C
And
also
to
echo
that
particularly
to
speak
to
the
comments
about
the
police
information
just
so
we
can
be
clear
that
I
can
follow
up
with
the
chief
and
the
police
forth
about
getting
those
demographics
broken
down
and
can
communicate
that
probably
out
next
meeting
for
those
who
are
interested
just
I
want
there
to
be
transparency,
but
also
what
you
to
understand
the
timeline.
So
we
will
meet
again
and
we
can
have
that
information
for
you
regarding
given
at
the
juvenile
regarding
whatever
we
can
provide
and
what
our
juvenile
cases
alderman.
J
You
chair
and
I
guess
for
DC
ticket
I.
Don't
have
the
information
in
front
of
me
now
and
I'm
just
I'm
not
going
to
wing
it,
but
I
did
have
a
chance
to
look
at
the
statute
that
was
listed
on
the
arrest
record
and
so
in
reading
through
that
statute,
I
didn't
see
anything
in
terms
of
the
penalties.
That
would
allow
me
to
believe
from
from
just
reading
it
that
an
arrest
was
was
one
of
the
options
it
listed.
Letters
penalties,
no
we're
in
it
for
a
kid
that
was
I,
think
less
than
17.
K
K
J
A
L
K
I
just
have
our
three
quick
updates
from
the
last
time.
Good
afternoon
and
evening,
chairman
committee
James
Peake,
a
deputy
chief
of
our
field
operations.
Since
the
last
time
an
update
was
made,
which
was
our
June
5th
of
2017.
It's
been
three
updates.
I
would
like
to
share
with
you
real
quick.
If
you
are
in
your
packets,
go
to
number
four,
which
is
a
Cook
County
Sheriff's
Department,
CIT
team
training,
that's
the
crisis,
intervention
team.
K
As
of
that
last
update,
we
now
have
11
officers
that
have
attended
and
are
certified
and
with
the
hopes
of
our
having
more
people
that
are
certified
in
that.
If
you
look
at
number
5
with
dr.
Logan's
training
that
has
been
completed,
June
20th
was
the
first
town
hall
meeting
and
another
one
will
be
subsequently
occurring
and
if
you
go
to
real
quick
number
11
the
body
camera
project
that
has
commenced
of
a
June
1st,
we
have
started
the
training
processes.
Actually
the
pilot
program.
K
We
have
nine
officers
and
two
supervisors
that
are
fitted
with
the
out
body
cameras
and
on
June
I'm,
sorry,
July
24th.
That
was
a
presentation
given
by
deputy
chief
parent
and
Commander
Dugan
that
up
updated
everybody
on
our
progress
and
that
program
is
going
pretty
good
and
we're.
Hopefully
by
January
1st
everybody
will
be
fitted
with
body
cameras.
C
K
K
A
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Rebecca
Mandel's
I
live
at
21,
22
Ashland
and
on
July
28th
I
was
part
of
a
Latino.
They
referred
to
it
as
latina
compound
hall
meeting.
It
took
place
as
a
result
of
two
previous
meetings
that
were
held.
The
initial
one
was
held
at
the
Evanston
Public
Library
through
Chicago
Community
Trust
event
called
OpenTable.
At
that
event,
there
was
at
least
maybe
like
25
to
30
people
present
all
interested
in
Latino
issues
in
Evanston.
M
Assessment,
that's
taking
place
in
the
city
of
Evanston,
so
at
the
town
hall
meeting
which
which
took
place
after
the
plan
had
already
had
already
been
put
together.
There
was
very
several
different
issues
that
came
up
as
a
result
of
the
specialists
being
there
to
present
to
us
and
I
had
to
tell
you
that
having
lived
in
Evanston
for
thirty
years,
it's
pretty
frustrating
to
be
asked
to
come
to
town
hall
meetings
time
after
time
after
time
with
without
any
real
results,
especially
in
the
Latino
community.
M
Our
to
our
needs
have
not
changed
very
much
and
they're
very
similar
to
very
many
different
needs
of
people
in
the
city
of
Evanston.
They
are
employment,
so
we
want.
We
want
jobs,
we
want
jobs
and
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
work
in
Evanston,
a
young
lady
shared
at
this
town-hall
meeting
she's
a
24
year
old
one
through
the
Evanston
school
system.
She
wanted
24
different
places
and
wasn't
employed
at
that
one.
M
So
she
resorts
to
Chicago
to
find
employment
and
I
think
that
that's
the
sentiment
that
shared
within
the
Latino
community
that
in
Evanston,
you
can't
really
get
a
job.
Unless
you
have
a
family
member
who
works
for
the
city
of
Evanston,
the
city
of
Evanston,
being
one
of
our
major
employers
in
the
city
and
just
also
they're,
not
really
being
a
priority
to
the
things
that
we've
already
told
you
that
we
need
in
the
city,
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
asked
the
specialist
was,
this
research
had
been
done
on.
M
M
Again,
our
priorities
haven't
changed
so
employment,
affordable
housing
and
equal
treatment.
That's
really
what
we
asked
where
I
think
that's
what
many
of
our
community
members
are
asking
for
with
these
with
reference
to
the
actual
assessment,
it
wasn't
a
very
good
turnout,
so
as
a
researcher
I
would
go
back
and
do
more
research.
You
know
if
you
didn't
have
a
very
good
turnout.
You
should
continue
researching
and
make
sure
that
everyone's
voices
are
heard.
M
The
equity
assessment
that
was
done
by
their
665
took
12
months,
the
one
that
was
done
here
took
approximately
six
months
and
that's
for
the
whole
entire
city
and
as
the
specialist
will
tell
you,
there
was
a
very
limited
amount
of
people
that
came
and
actually
told
what
their
interests
were.
All
from
a
certain
segment,
I
will
say
that
there
was
about
30
people
that
did
of
Latino
descent
that
did
respond
and
I
would
implore
you
to
take
those
into
consideration
and
again,
our
needs
haven't
changed
very
much.
M
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Jasmine
jeddah
and
Gonzalez.
I
am
an
oven,
Sounion
born
and
raised
in
the
second
Ward
whoo
and
but
and
I'm
also
the
executive
director
for
Latino
resources
and
so
I'm
very
involved
and
I've
always
had
a
passion
anyway.
But
I
did
want
to
also
echo
what
Rebecca
said.
I
was
also
at
the
Latin
next
town
hall,
where
we
discussed
the
equity
plan,
I
reviewed
it
I've
seen
the
most
recent
one
as
well
and
very
interesting.
N
But
I
do
want
to
note
that
at
the
meeting
there
were
Spanish
speakers
and
well
more
comfortable
reading
the
plan
in
Spanish
and
unfortunately
we're
not,
and
it
also
doesn't
give
the
opportunity
to
Spanish
readers
to
actually
be
involved
and
voice
their
opinions
because
they
can't
read
it
to
begin
with
right.
So
I
do
want
to
I,
guess
recommend
to
publish
it
in
Spanish.
It
would
be
a
really
great
idea
and
a
good
opportunity
for
them
to
read
it,
especially
because
they
are
part
of
our
community,
and
we
are
here
and
I
want
to.
O
Good
evening,
members
of
the
Human
Services
Committee
called
Sutton
of
1821
Darrow
Avenue
Evanston,
Illinois
equity,
for
who
empowerment
for
who
these
are
two
questions
of
accountability
in
the
community.
We
have
already
addressed
issues
of
policing
and
housing
and
in
the
past
you
want
to
know
why
there's
not
been
an
effective
reply
from
the
community.
The
marginalization
that
we
have
had
from
coming
to
these
meetings
have
led
to
a
certain
apathy
where
community
members
have
led
to
the
questioning
and
the
credibility
and
sincerity
of
bringing
our
issues
to
you
to
have
any
resolution.
O
I
would
appreciate
the
equity
coordinator
evaluating
and
addressing
any
concerns
that
a
person
to
affect
our
citizens
I
refrain
from
any
judgement
at
this
time
until
I
see
the
final
proposal,
how
will
it
prioritize
our
concerns?
Who
will
enforce
in
the
incidence
of
inappropriate
behavior
of
law
enforcement
officers?
How
can
we
expect
developers
to
address
our
shortages
of
available
housing
units
in
our
community
as
we
approach
this
issue
as
we
approach,
equity
and
empowerment?
Is
it
equity
and
empowerment,
or
further
hypocrisy,
I.
G
Crystal
Giles
I
was
gifted
with
some
half-dead
flowers
this
spring
and
I.
Don't
know
why
I
planted
them
when
they
were
already
brown,
but
I
planted
them
just
to
see
if
they
would
grow
and
then
I
came
to
the
City
Council
meeting
and
I
heard
about
the
flowers
and
the
price
that
was
being
spent
for
flowers
on
corners
and
I'm,
not
against
beauty,
but
I.
Think
if
people
had
jobs
they
could
make
their
own
duty.
G
I
just
feel
like
the
amount
of
money
that
was
spent
could
have
employed
many
more
people
than
have
been
that
are
being
employed.
There's
no
reason
why
they
can't
be
employed.
Look
employed
in
there
is
no
desire,
it
seems
for
people
to
be
employed.
If
we
were
going
to
have
equity,
we
must
have
jobs,
and
then
we
can
take
care
of
our
own
selves.
That's
what
we
were
doing
before
we
had
this
new
program.
The
equity
survey
that
came
about
I
haven't
seen
any
more
than
I
said
before
the
last
meeting.
G
We
had
someone
come
and
bring
surveys.
I
did
not
see
them
in
any
place.
I
didn't
see
any
other
place
and
not
any
left
at
the
place
where
they
were
giving
out.
We
need
equity
to
be
really
true.
We
need
to
know
that
we
can
be
voice,
top
voices
can
be
heard
and
that
something
is
going
to
be
done
about
it.
So
that
was
a
beautiful,
but
they
don't
pay
the
rent.
A
P
Good
evening,
Madam's
here
in
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is:
I
need
money,
Sanchez
and
I'm
the
item
a
fellow
for
discussants
and
today
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
about
the
survey
report
that
came
out
from
the
survey
at
the
equity
survey.
So
I'm
going
to
run
you
through
the
background
and
then
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
about
some
of
the
results,
the
key
findings
and
some
recommendations
we
came
up
with
so
just
to
give
you
some
background.
These
survey
was
designing
2014
and
we
use
the
same
survey
at
the
time.
P
P
P
So
just
again,
so
you
keep
in
mind
most
of
these.
All
of
these
responses
came
from
I'm
sorry,
so
most
of
the
responses
came
from
online
sources
and
it
was
completely
voluntary.
So
again,
most
of
the
people
that
fill
it
out
went
to
the
website
and
knew
that
the
survey
was
available.
So
we
were
not
really
reaching
out
to
everyone
in
the
community.
It
was
mostly
the
people
that
were
interested,
so
the
average
person
that
completed
the
survey
in
2014
did
not
change.
P
P
So
one
of
the
people
that
fill
out
this
survey
this
year
have
lived
in
Evanston
for
more
than
30
years,
so
about
29.
30
percent
of
people
have
lived
in
Evanston
for
30
years
and
then
most
people
do
not
have
a
disability.
That's
fill
out
the
survey,
so
one
of
the
things
I
came
up
with
when
you
think
about
the
word
different.
What
do
you
think
about?
P
And
for
most
people
that
was
raised,
that
was
about
45%
of
the
respondents
and
then,
if
you
combine
ethnicity
and
race,
which
are
kind
of
similar
and
often
are
paired,
that's
over
60%
of
people
saying
this
is
what
we
think
of
in
terms
of
the
third
largest
category,
the
second.
If
you
don't
combine
them,
it's
other,
so
we
created
this
cloud
with
the
words
that
came
up
so
a
lot
of
times
the
words
I
came
up
with
social,
economic
or
income,
something
based
on
salary
or
wages,
and
also
political.
P
P
For
more
example,
about
57%
of
people
said
they
haven't,
and
42%
said
they
have
so
the
next
question:
why
do
you
think
Evanston
is
a
good
place
to
live
for
immigrants,
racial
ethnic
minorities,
people
with
disabilities,
LGBTQ
family
with
children
when
they're
18,
youth
and
young
adult
singles
and
senior
citizens
for
the
most
part?
Most
for
all
the
questions,
people
agree
that
it's
a
good
place
for
all
of
those
categories
and
that's
primarily
what
we
signed
there.
P
What
we
did
after
that
is
break
down
some
of
the
questions
by
race
and
by
income,
because
we
were
interested
in
knowing
if
there's
any
differences.
So
the
first
question
that
we
looked
at
was
attended.
City,
Council
and
most
people
that
fill
out
the
survey
788
70
%-
did
not
attend
them
to
be
counseled
last
year.
So
then
we
look
at
that
30%
and
wanted
to
understand
whether
they
were
female
mayor
male,
what
race,
what
income
levels?
P
And
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
chart,
you
can
see
that
there
was
a
disparity
so
out
of
the
231
people.
That
said
they
attended,
City
Council,
74
percent
were
female
and
26
percent
were
male.
But
then
we
adjust
that
to
the
number
of
females
that
we
had
in
our
sample
and
then
we
get
that
only
28%
of
the
females
in
the
sample
participated
in
City
Council
compared
to
37%
of
males.
P
Then
we
looked
at
income
level.
So
if
you
look
at
the
income
bracket-
and
you
look
at
the
percentage
that
is
the
highest
on
the
first
column,
you
get
that
49
percent
of
the
people
that
attended
City
Council
last
year
that
responded
to
our
survey
made
incomes
over
$100,000,
but
when
we
adjust
it
to
the
group,
so
every
income
bracket-
and
we
divided
by
the
total
we
get
that
the
percentages
are
pretty
similar.
P
No
matter
what
the
income
levels
were,
the
highest
is
actually
30
to
39
thousand
dollars
a
year,
the
participation
rate,
then
we
do
raise
I
divided
it
by
the
race.
So
we
have
229
people
that
said
that
the
eternal
city
council
would
also
give
us
their
race
or
self-identified.
So
out
of
that
total,
we
have
that
61
percent
of
them
wear
white
or
Caucasian.
Then
we
have
29
percent
black
and
that's
the
nine
in
red
that
you
can
see
then
five
percent
Hispanic
and
two
percent
Asian.
P
Then
the
second
question
that
we
broke
down
like
that
was
that
have
you
participated
in
community
events
and
most
of
the
people
that
responded
to
this
question
have
participated
in
the
community
event
last
year
and
again
we
did
it
by
income
and
it
was
almost
as
in
result
as
attended
City
Council.
The
income
categories
do
not
really
make
a
difference.
If
you
look
at
the
sample
overall,
it
seems
like
more
people
are
participating
that
are
over
100,000,
but
that's
just
because
they're
more
now,
because
this
group,
then
we
look
at
race
same
thing
just
like.
P
If
you
see
the
overall,
which
is
a
red
column,
most
of
the
people
that
participated
were
quite
at
68
percent,
any
kind
of
decreases
you
see,
22
percent,
frickin,
American
or
black
he's
better
Latinos
are
at
6%.
Then,
when
we
adjusted
to
the
population,
that
is
that
specific
group,
you
can
see
that
the
highest
participation
rate
still
between
the
black
and
African
Americans,
for
example,
at
a
97%.
P
So
in
conclusion,
after
looking
at
this
data,
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind?
Is
that
there's
some
groups
that
we're
not
reaching
out
this?
Put
that
don't
have
computers
or
the
people
that
might
not
read
English?
So
if
you
got
the
links,
you
would
go
to
the
survey
and
fill
it
out.
The
other
thing
that
we
understand
is
that
we
need
better
data.
We
need
to
do
a
better
job
reaching
out
to
the
population.
P
P
It
was
mostly
about
how
people
feel,
and
that
was
mainly
because
there
was
a
comparison
baseline
with
2014,
but
we
need
better
information
about
accessing
city
services
and
then,
while
we
were
to
guess,
is
doing
a
random
sampling,
so
everyone
in
Evanston
would
get
an
equal
chance
to
get
selected
and
we
can
mail
out
the
survey
and
do
it
in
Spanish
in
English,
so
people
that
don't
speak
English
can
be
able
to
fill
it
out
in
Spanish.
So
that's
the
survey
report
have
any
questions
per
minute.
C
Thank
you
for
having
that
available
tonight
in
the
last
week
or
last
time,
I
was
in
here.
So
my
questions
are,
and
you
touched
on
this
is
you're
going
to
add
two
more
questions:
you're
going
to
mail
it
out
to
a
random
sample
of
people
and
I
guess
my
concern
is
that
then,
how
is
that
going
to
be
used?
C
C
So
even
with
the
new
questions,
I
guess,
my
suggestion
would
be
when
you
look
at
the
barriers
and
challenges
for
accessing
city
services,
that
that
is
where
we
spend
our
time,
because
that
is
what
we
can
do
from
our
seat,
but
even
that
we
know
is
going
to
be
limited
because
you,
you
mail
them
out
and
it's
my
choice
if
people
return
them.
So
if
we
get
say
200
back
and
they're
all
over
the
map,
it
still
doesn't
necessarily
provide
us
with
direction.
So
I
appreciate
the
survey
but
I
guess
my
concern
is
I.
C
Don't
want
to
suspend
a
lot
of
time
and
resources
on
the
survey
because
I
think
from
what
miss
Mendoza
said
and
probably
other
people
here.
The
city
has
the
city
and
other
organizations
have
done
a
lot
of
talking
and
gathering
of
information
about
people's
experience
and
so
I
think
we
can
start
building
on
some
of
that.
At
the
same
time
that
we
are
relaunching
the
survey
so.
P
One
thing
that
you
mentioned:
so
if
we
randomize
and
we
mail
it
out
to
people,
we
would
be
able
to
get
a
sample
that
could
give
us
a
generalization
about
the
city,
not
just
the
people
that
have
the
highest
participation
rate,
which
is
the
people
that
we're
getting
in
the
surveys
and
to
better
provide
services
to
people.
We
want
to
hear
from
those
that
we're
not
hearing
and
if
we
send
that
to
somebody,
that's
not
being
asked
now
what
are
their
challenges
or
issues.
P
We
might
be
better
equipped
to
deal
with
those
so
that
I
see
a
value
for
asking
the
questions
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
survey
design,
I
agree
with
you.
We
need
this
survey.
We
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
how
you
feel
whether
you
think
that
everything
is
a
good
place
to
live,
but
in
reality
we
need
to
worry
about
how
you
access
government
services
and
do
you
need
more
translation?
So
you
don't
what
what
else
can
we
do
so
I?
Think
more
questions
should
be
asked
about
those
topics.
All.
C
Right
and
I
mean
even
given
that
you're
going
to
mail
them
out,
which
I
think
is
great
to
random
people.
We
don't
know
that
they're
going
to
return
them,
so
I
think
we
have
to
be
prepared
for
if
we
get
a
small
sample
size
back,
you
know,
I,
don't
want
us
I
guess
to
get
down
this
road.
If
we're
just
going
to
keep
doing
surveys,
we're
going
to
keep
having
stations
I
want
us
to
get
to
the
implementation
part
which
I
know
we're
going
to
get
to.
But
those
are
my
thoughts
on
a
survey.
I
Know
that
I'm
saying
anything
different
in
Alderman
Fleming,
but
just
another
survey,
another
Town
Hall
I,
just
am
not
in
support
of
that.
I
think
that
the
resident
was
very
clear
and
I
agree
that
we
know
what
our
needs
are
in
the
community.
They
have
not
changed
and
it
real
a
long
time
and
I
think
when
you
see
such
a
low
participation
in
certain
communities.
It's
because
those
particular
communities
have
in
a
way
lost
hope
we're
going
to
continue
to
talk
about
it
like
at
this
point.
I
Q
I
think
that
we
would
essentially
agree
with
that,
but
you
know
there
has
been
a
call
from
the
community
and
in
some
sense
from
City
Council
members
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
data
that
we
need.
But
I
am
you
know,
I
think
I
need
for
being
able
to
do
this
and
to
be
able
to
interpret
the
data
and
all
of
that
because
for
me
it
kind
of
goes
over.
My
head
and
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
move
into
into
action,
and
you
know
we
take
our
direction
from
you.
Q
So
if
you
know
if
the
conversation
needs
to
continue
about
the
survey
or
if
you
want
us
to
move
on
part
of
what
we
found
from
the
survey
was
simply
what
we
all
know
and
what
we
all
see
is
we're
not
reaching
we're
not
reaching
the
appropriate
people,
we're
not
reaching
all
people
and
we're
kind
of
going
in
circles.
The
next
survey
should
we
proceed.
What
that
would
be
much
more
data
oriented
as
a
nice
that
it
completely
takes
out
what
the
feelings
aren't,
what
the
thoughts
are
but
provides
us
with
data.
R
A
Okay,
this
is
staying
at
committee
and
the
plan
is
going
to
change
a
little
bit.
We're
not
going
to
do
another
survey
but
you're
to
be
back
here
in
October,
so
we're
being
asked
tonight
to
not
only
review
the
with
the
work
plan
but
direct
staff
to
begin
tasks
in
the
work
plan.
Now
is
it
that
do
you
does
the
committee
want
to
continue
to
receive
community
feedback?
Are
you
you
not
want
to
go
ahead
and
do
that?
Do
you
want
the
committee
to
give
direction
rather
than
seeking
further
community
feedback.
C
So
we've
ever
at
the
updated
plan.
So
here
are
my
thoughts.
I
think
that
particularly
because
you
mentioned
focusing
on
race,
so
miss
Mendoza,
who
I'm
assuming
his
rectum
in
entire
Latino
community
tonight,
I'm
just
joking,
some
I
can
say
you
know
I'm
representing
some
African,
American
people
and
and
others
I
mean
I,
speak
to
some.
C
Some
people
who
are
in
the
disability
population
in
our
city
and
I
think
that
people
feel
a
little
bit
talked
out
in
evanston,
and
so
one
of
your
action
plans
is
to
move
forward
with
so
I'm
trying
to
find
it
I
think
there
were
some
identifying
some
african-american
and
Latino
community
leaders
to
leave
town
halls
correct.
So
if
we're
not
going
to
have
a
discussion,
then
I
would
I
would
not.
I
would
not
support
that
I
have
some
concerns
about
who
would
be
picking
them.
Who
would
be
training
them?
C
Q
If
I
can
offer
some
clarification,
it
may
or
may
not
help
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
consistently
found,
both
at
the
town
hall
meetings
and
through
the
survey
as
you
saw.
The
results
is
that
we
are
simply
not
reaching
people
of
color
we're
just
not,
and
so
one
of
the
part
of
convening
these
leaders
in
the
community
to
help
help
us
access
those
communities
so
that
we
can
get
full
of
participation.
I
mean
you
know,
but
that's
become
the
overall
issue.
Q
Well,
we've
made
significant
efforts
to
reach
out
to
these
populations
with
very
little
results,
and
so
it
was
our
hope
that
by
reaching
out
by
these
leaders
coming
forward
and
and
then
being
our
arms
out
into
the
community,
so
it
would
simply
be
them
sort
of
theme
data
on
behalf
of
their
community.
But
but
you
know,
I
mean
this
is
continue
to
be
a
struggle
regardless.
However,
we
move
forward,
but
I
just
want
to.
Q
C
If
there
is
no
follow-through
on
the
person,
who's
hosting
so
I
think
if
people
feel
a
little
bit
burned
out
of
coming
to
share
and
discuss
and
whatever
and
there's
no
action,
then
what
is
their
motivation
like,
like
Ottoman
Simmonds,
that
we're
coming
back
to
then
share
right,
so
I
think
we
have
to
be
really
clear.
What
we're
looking
for,
for
people
just
to
say
we're
going
to
engage
the
Latino
community
for
the
sake
of
engagement,
I,
don't
think
it's
really
what
I
envisioned
for
equity
and
empowerment.
C
C
F
I
We
talked
about-
and
you
mentioned,
that
you
were
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
the
faith
community
to
get
more
participation
so
that
still
as
an
action
and
I
know
that
probably
had
four
award
meetings
this
year,
and
that
would
be
like
another
great
place
to
connect.
So
I.
Don't
think
that
you
should
completely
abandon
the
idea
of
identifying
leaders
to
get
the
information
that
you
need
from
the
populations
that
are
not
being
represented,
but
in
a
more
strategic
way,
makes
more
sense.
Q
Are
you
ready
for
that?
I
am
ready
Stan,
so
as
part
of
the
welcoming
City
ordanza,
we
skokie
contacted
us
and
they
were
doing
a
Skokie
cares
campaign
and
we
wanted
to
really
figure
out
how
we
could
put
action
behind
the
words
and
really
help
citizens
more
broadly
think
about
what
it
means,
and
so
the
committee
produced
these
all
people
are
welcome.
City
of
Evanston
signs
which
we
would
like
to
this
is
a.
We
call
that
a
mock
up.
Q
A
You
know
we
keep
talking,
I
mean
it's
Evanston,
it's
a
wonderful
thing,
but
if
definite
does
it
does
mean
that
people
become
exhausted,
so
I
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
us
to
tell
and
explain
to
people
why
this
is
different.
Why
what
we're
doing
is
different
and-
and
we
have
to
take
the
leadership
role
on
that
as
simple
and
as
sort
of
I,
don't
know
commonplace
as
branding
is
it's
a
visual
is
a
way
of
saying
this
is
a
different
program.
We're
trying
to
do
here.
A
This
is
a
different
discussion
that
we're
trying
to
have
and,
as
I've
said
in
previous
meetings,
this
is
not,
and
this
is
not
an
easy
discussion.
It's
not
a
fast
discussion
to
discussion,
that's
going
to
go
on
for
years
and
years
and
years,
but
we
do
have
to
engage
people
and
get
them
to
become
involved
of.
But
then
it's
incumbent
on
us
to
prove
that
their
involvement
was
valuable
and
that's
again,
that's
the
challenge
for
us
and
I'm
certainly
willing
to
accept
that
that
challenge
and
I'm
frankly
excited
about
yep
so
yep.
A
C
Emily
think:
okay,
that's!
Okay!
Sorry!
So
the
sign!
Okay,
so
you're
going
to
purchase
these
they're
going
to
go
on
the
city,
buildings
and
and
I
guess
what
do
I
do
next
right,
so
I
see
the
sign,
I,
guess
right,
so
I'm
trying,
if
you
see
the
threaten
to
push
us
pass
the
gesture
and
and
by
the
gesture,
is
a
good
place
right.
But
you
know:
I
have
a
black
lives
matter,
sign
and
frequently
people
say
what
does
that
mean
all
right.
So
what
am
I
telling
them
when
they
see
the
sign
so.
Q
This
is
part
you're
exactly
right,
I
mean
that's
what
we
struggle
with
was:
how
do
we
not
just
make
a
sign,
so
we
went
against
putting
the
yard
sign
and
thinking
about
you
know
more
consciously
about
helping
people
who
are
entering
issi
property
to
understand
that
this
is
this
is
an
open
and
welcoming
facility
if
I
can
no
matter
how
I
come
in
but
beyond.
That
is
that's
exactly
right.
We
want
to.
Q
We
want
to
brand
this
as
a
campaign
to
talk
about
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
embedding
into
our
businesses
what
it
means
to
be
welcoming,
for
example,
I
mean
you
know,
customer
service,
whether
it's
coming
from
the
city
or
whether
it's
coming
from
the
you
know
the
business
community,
making
sure
that
we
are
thinking
about
what
it
means
to
be
welcoming.
What
does
it
mean
when,
when
an
immigrant
comes
in,
they
don't
speak
any
English,
although
they
speak
Spanish
and
you
know
some
sense
of
what
it
means
to
be
a
welcoming
committee.
Q
Q
Correctly
so
we
have
a
team,
an
interdepartmental
team
who's
actually
worked
on.
It's
not
my
idea,
I'm,
not
an
artist,
but
let
me
say
that
they
will
be
made
in-house.
But,
yes,
there
is
a
team,
including
community
engagement,
to
to
build
this
brand
and
to
build
what
it
means
to
have
this
conversation,
and
so
we
we
were
brainstorming
all
kinds
of
ideas
about
how
we
could
continue
this,
but
first
we
want
to
make
sure
we
could
launch
it.
Okay,.
A
Q
So
we've
tossed
them.
We
tossed
it
on
this
idea,
a
couple
of
different
ways:
we
had
federal
designs
and
one
design
had
multiple
languages
on
it.
One
had
Spanish
English,
and
so
you
know
the
struggle
is
constantly.
How
do
we
attend
the
entirety
of
the
community?
I
think
we're
open
to
whatever
you
think
we
ought
to
be
doing
with
it.
I.
A
Will
share
a
little
personal
note
here
when
my
mother
came
to
Evanston
and
the
as
a
young
child
to
go
to
public
school.
There
were
33
foreign
languages
spoken
in
heavens,
to
grammar
schools,
and
all
of
them
were
taught
so
they
there
were
teachers
at
least
one
teacher
that
could
speak
each
language
home.
So
there's
lots
of
languages
so
I
think
that's
a
challenge.
I'm
actually.
Q
And
that
is
the
challenge
for
us
means
part
of
what
it
addresses
in
the
plan
and
the
provide
proposal
is
we
need
to
review
and
really
establish
a
language
access
policy.
What
does
that
mean?
When
do
we
translate?
What
languages
do
we
translate
into
I
mean
there?
There
are
those
issues
and
part
of
our
concern
is,
as
we
were,
putting
all
of
these
different
languages
on.
Q
C
Q
C
Good,
but
you
can
please
Spanish
on
there,
I'm,
not
a
designer
either,
but
I
mean
we
just
heard
from
the
community
that
we
had
an
entire
Latinas
meeting
with
no
Spanish
materials,
which
was
a
huge
loss
because
people
came
out
on
a
Friday
night,
but
couldn't
read
the
materials,
so
I
think
if
we
could
figure
out
how
to
get
Spanish
on
the
find,
and
that
would
be
helpful
or
get
two
signs
or
I.
Don't
know
what
you
do.
Okay,.
A
R
Mike
doesn't
seem
to
be
working,
but
so
I
serve
on
the
housing,
homelessness
and
Human
Relations
Commission,
which,
as
you
recall,
we
recently
merged
human
relations
with
housing
and
homelessness,
and
we
have
lengthy
discussions
and
we
are
totally
consumed
with
trying
to
solve
affordable
housing
problems.
So
there's
not
really
an
opportunity
to
do
justice
to
the
human
relations
component
and
and
also
now,
that
we're
making
such
a
priority
of
the
equity
and
empowerment
initiative.
A
J
J
R
J
My
question
I
guess
my
question
that
ottoman
rel
is
the
first
part
of
this
is
separating
housing
and
human
relations
by
second
part
of
the
question.
Would
then,
would
you
want
to
combine
the
equity
work
with
the
current
Human
Relations
Committee?
That
would
then
be,
or
are
we
talking
three
separate
committees?
That's
where
I
well.
F
L
Yeah
right,
yeah
I
just
for
clarification,
dystrophin,
the
homeland,
the
Human,
Relations
Commission,
was
technically
dissolved
last
year
and
the
responsibilities
was
rolled
into
the
housing
and
homelessness
Commission
and
we
just
added
Human
Relations
because
they
do
well
lose
the
name.
So
it'd
just
be
a
rules,
change
I'm,
a
change
from
the
Rules
Committee
to
remove
human
relations,
responsibilities
from
housing
and
homelessness,
homelessness,
Commission
and
then
just
keep
the
human
relations
commission
dissolved
right.
A
C
Q
C
Yeah
because
I
see
your
proposed
I
guess
submission
here
and
I.
Think
for
me
it
takes
me
a
little
bit
further
back
to
where
we
were
with
the
deserve.
A
where
people
you
know
are
fostering
relationships
and
people
are,
you
know,
engaging
and
what-have-you
I
guess.
I
would
like
to
see
that
a
little
bit
clearer,
all
right,
so
I
see
a
couple
sentence
in
a
couple
of
sentences
in
here
that
are
more
like
a
vision
statement,
but
like
the
practicality
of
the
board,
what
their
responsibilities
are.
C
Q
C
Now
sure
what
I
did
you
know
is
we're
going
out
and
moving
forward
and
I
really
appreciate
some
of
the
history
of
the
Human
Relations
Commission,
because
they
really
did
a
lot
of
great
work,
and
so
I
would
again
suggest
to
you
to
look
at
what
the
Human
Relations
Commission
did
and
some
of
that
work
that's
gone
away.
That
might
be
able
to
be
rolled
back
into
what
you're
relaunching
ok
and.
A
All
are
in
Flemming
that
that
will
all
be
part
of
the
discussion
that
rules
to
what
it's
important
to
say
here
tonight.
I
will
make
one
correction:
that's
you
can't
bus
anyone
to
a
school
in
the
first
word,
because
there
aren't
aren't
any
school.
The
first
word
that
can
come
to
my
house
also
in
principal
thank.
J
You
all
in
the
5th
game
just
to
share
all
the
plumbing.
A
nice
thing
is
about
all
the
selection
on
our
committees.
Is
that
all
them
in
out
absolutely
have
a
say
in
that
I
would
hope.
You
and,
and
others
will
make
recommendations
for
this
committee.
In
addition
to
that,
is
we
all
know
that
if
there
is
a
name
or
reason
for
someone
not
to
serve
or
we
have
concerns
that
we
have
a
way
of
voicing
those
as
well
yeah.
A
A
Q
A
Q
Q
A
No,
no!
No!
It's
just
it's
different.
It's
not
the
town
halls
that
just
you're
you're
going
out
and
actually
targeting
targeting
groups
and
opportunities
board
meetings
of
religious
organizations,
finding
ways
to
identify
groups
that
are
not
where
people
do
not
have
to
come
out
to
town
halls,
you're,
actually
going
so.
Q
C
Maybe
it's
not
number
two
so
begin
the
August
to
October
tasks
in
the
work
plan.
Yes,
so
one
of
the
tasks
in
the
work
plan
is
also
our
Roman
numeral
two
about
the
equity
training.
Yep.
So
is
that
just
so
I
make
sure
I
have
my
dates
right.
So
in
September
you
are
going
to
make
a
plan
and
the
training
is
going
to
start
in
October.
Q
For
the
equity
training
number
two,
so
the
idea
is
no
so
number
it's
to
be
develop
a
comprehensive
training
plan,
so
in
October
we
would
begin
to
develop.
I
mean
so
this
is
this,
is
you
know,
laying
out
a
complete
comprehensive
training
program
and
then
going
out
to
to
develop
that
plan,
which
would
we
would
begin
to
implement
in
January,
okay,.
C
Q
The
two
that
we
would
that
are
critical
to
us
is
I
mean
in
all
fairness,
I,
don't
think
we
can
start
training
staff
until
we
get
council
trained
and
so
we're
proposed.
At
this
point
we
have
two
proposed
dates,
but
we
have
to
check
with
you
all
the
way
the
City
Council
see
if
those
dates
are
going
to
work
in
and
in
October,
but
in
September.
Q
C
C
Q
One
of
the
things
that,
besides
having
a
comprehensive
staff
training
program,
we're
also
going
to
have
to
do
individualized
department
so
right
now
we're
working
with
the
police
department
is
doing
training.
That's
unique
to
them.
That's
what's
happening
with
the
sustainability
pieces.
Really
is
a
piece,
that's
unique
to
sustainability.
That
we've
been
invited
that
Kumar
invited
me
to
sit
in
on,
and
so
it
is.
It
is
by
no
means
a
part
of
the
training
package
for
the
whole
staff.
It
is
directed
at
sustainability
and
the
USD
end.
A
R
Yes,
we
do
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
appropriate
for
right
now,
but
when
we
just
seem
on
page
11
of
our
packet,
when
we
in
terms
of
the
welcoming
communities
sign
made
me
focus
on
the
letter
that
I
think
we
all
received
on
the
council
about
the
need
for
some
amendments
to
our
welcoming
city,
ordinance
and
I.
Didn't
know
whether
this
was
maybe
the
appropriate
place
for
us
to
talk
about
that
and
try
to
move
that
forward.
R
F
J
Other
members
of
the
community
who
are
who
put
forth
a
couple
of
changes
to
our
current
amendment
right
now,
the
chief
is
reviewing
those
changes
and
there's
one
in
particular.
That's
a
sticky
point
that
he's
waiting
to
see
what
the
state
does
with
their
legislation
before
getting
back
to
the
group.
So
it's
on
the
table
and
currently
in
a
holding
pattern
until
the
state
makes
up
its
mind
on
a
few
key
issues,
so
I
think
when
it
gets
back
on
vacation,
we
should
be
in
a
position
to
provide
an
update
to
the
committee
and
and.
T
R
I
was
just
noticing,
because
we
were
talking
about
the
welcome
sign
and
the
welcoming
city
ordinance.
I
thought
I
just
had
this
question
about
when
were
we
as
of
a
new
City
Council,
going
to
be
talking
about
this
possible
need
for
some
changes
to
the
ordinance
so
but
I
so,
but
Peter
alderman
Braithwaite
is
explain
where
we
are
with
that
process.
U
One
of
my
concerns
about
the
survey
it
dealt
more
with
the
specifically
the
group
speed
survey
rather
than
the
purpose
of
equity.
In
other
words,
everybody
knows
who's
lived
for
two
weeks.
What
theses
are,
and
there
was
no
discussion
about
vision.
Our
city
is
white
and
black
schools
are
white
and
black,
so
not
integrated.
You
know
it's
been
change
this
course.
So
if
you
go
to
communities
all
right
on
the
north
side
has
been
that
way.
U
Ever
since
I
was
in
almost
and
so
I'm
saying
that
if
we
talk
about
equity,
we
have
to
deal
with
the
real
issues,
which
is
how
do
people
really
learn
to
live
together?
Not
apart
not
separately
how
people
learn
to
appreciate
each
other
not
denigrate
and
has
the
story
everything
about
Arizona,
so
there's
a
need
to
really
deal
with
issues
rather
than
debt.
It's
like
I
mixed
in
that
dance,
the
dance
around
the
head,
and
that's
not
what
we're
trying
to
do
that
I
hope
what
we're
really
trying
to
change
things.
U
J
J
J
F
S
I
don't
know,
there's
no
presentation.
Okay,
just
happy.