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A
A
Second,
any
Corrections,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
all
right,
because
we
are
starting
an
hour
and
a
half
late
and
I
have
spoken
with
some
staff
who
needed
to
leave
an
hour
ago.
I'm
gonna
move
a
couple
things
in
our
agenda:
we're
gonna
do
kind
of
our
shorter
items.
First,
that
won't
have
a
long
discussion.
A
Thank
you,
so
I'm
gonna
just
postpone
hh1
for
a
second
that's
a
way
that
has
a
little
more
discussion.
Hhe
do
all
right.
So
hh2
is
a
resolution.
103
r
18
designating
the
portion
of
Emerson
Street
between
Wesley
Avenue
and
Ashley
Avenue,
with
an
honorary
street
sign
the
name
of
Nathan
Halliburton
jr.
way.
The
Parks
and
Rec
board
is
recommending
the
adoption
of
this
resolution
and
renaming
of
this
street
move
approval.
B
It
was
brought
to
a
the
Parks
and
Rec
Committee
and
application
with
broad
support,
including
aldermen
homes
and
members
of
the
community,
as
well
as
members
of
Mount
Zion
Missionary
Baptist
Church.
Mr.
Nathan
Halliburton
has
done
business
as
a
funeral
director
for
decades
in
the
fifth
Ward.
He
has
also
served
our
community
through
his
service
with
the
Masonic
Temple,
as
well
as
many
years
of
volunteer
work
with
family
focus
and
other
organizations,
assisting
youth
and
mentoring
them
and
supporting
them.
I
support
this.
B
A
All
right,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
All
right
motion
carries
h/h
3
presents
behavioral
health
9
fiscal
year,
19
contract
renewal
staff
is
recommending.
We
authorize
city
manager
to
renew
our
service
provider
agreement
with
presents
behavioral
health
and
the
city
of
Evanston
for
the
provision
of
24-hour
crisis
line,
access,
mental
health
crisis
intervention
and
various
community
outreach
and
education
services
at
the
cost
of
one
hundred
forty
three
thousand
three
hundred
thirty
three
dollars.
The
agreement
is
dated:
January
1st
2019
through
December
31st
2019
move
approval.
Second,.
C
A
D
They're,
seeing
licensed
clinical
social
workers
that
have
been
long
term
social
workers,
they
do
have
interns
that
support
some
of
their
administrative
work.
But
the
direct
contact
to
patient
is
a
licensed
clinical,
social
worker
and
I
apologize
committee,
I'm
Yvonne
Thomas
Smith,
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Director,
okay,.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
so
you
know
for
the
lights.
This
is
moved
and
said
you.
D
A
E
A
Opposed
all
right,
moving
right
along
while
we're
in
Health
hh5
ordinance,
one
five,
two
OH
18
amending
title:
a
trapped,
er,
six
food
service
and
retail
food
store.
Annotation
staff
is
recommending.
We
adopt
this
ordinance.
This
action
will
align
the
city
code
to
the
states
amendment
to
the
Illinois
foodservice,
sanitation
rules
and
regulations
which
mandates
the
adoption
of
2017
u.s.
food
and
drug
administration
code
and
all
subsequent
additions
and
amendments
for
Illinois
health
departments.
This
is
for
action.
A
A
All
right
seeing
no
lights
for
questions
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right
in
our
last
quick
one
is
H
H
for
2019
minute
meeting
scheduled
for
the
Human
Services
Committee
meeting
any
questions
about
the
meetings
for
next
year,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor.
Oh,
wait!
Sorry
director.
C
C
I
just
had
a
quick
question,
so
myself
in
Ottoman
fiscal,
we
were
talking
amongst
ourselves.
One
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
just
in
this
ordinance
sort
of
bubbled
up
for
us
with
the
proposed
cuts
coming
out
of
the
budget.
Will
you
be
able
to
will
that
have
an
impact
on
how
you
deliver
services,
particularly
to
how
you
inspect
our
our
restaurants?
At.
D
A
Thank
you
all
right,
so
H
H
for
the
meeting
schedule
has
been
moved
and
seconded
all
those
in
favor
of
accepting
and
their
meeting
scheduled.
Please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
We
are
now
done
with
our
kind
of
short
order
business.
Thank
you
all
for
letting
me
move
around
we'll
go
to
H
h1
now,
which
is
resolution
105
our
18.
The
adoption
of
the
climate
action
and
resilience
plan
can
I
get
them
to
move
approval.
I
may
not
move
approval
motion.
What
am
I
doing?
I'm
motioning
to
introduce?
Thank
you.
A
E
A
F
A
E
I'm
Andrew
Fisher
I
spoke
about
a
month
to
go
to
the
full
City
Council
I've
lived
in
Evanston
for
over
50
years,
I'm,
mainly
coming
in
favor
of
this
hh1
resolution.
105
R
15,
the
climate
action
resilience
plan
I
mean
definitely
in
favor
of
it
to
make
Evanston
among
the
forefront
of
the
leaders
to
fight
climate
change
in
light
of
all
the
dreadful
fires
in
California
and
terrible
hurricanes
down
in
Florida
and
the
Carolinas.
G
Okay,
I
also
was
raised
in
Evanston,
raised
my
kids
here
and
I'm
here
as
a
parent
and
a
educator
who
cares
a
lot
about
children
and
I
feel
really
that
there's
a
moral
imperative
for
us
to
take
a
leadership
role
in
the
face
of
the
climate
crisis.
I
was
trained
by
Al
Gore
as
a
climate
reality
leader
and
have
learned
the
breadth
and
depth
and
gravity
of
this
issue
and
I
think
it's
a
social
justice
issue,
an
equity
issue,
because
vulnerable
populations
take
a
hit.
G
Well,
many
people
with
greater
resources
can
avoid
the
brunt
of
the
situation
so
I
I
know.
Sometimes
budgetary
issues
come
up
in
this
conversation
and
I
think
that's
short-sighted,
because
we
really
have
to
look
at
the
costs
down
the
road
if
we
don't
act
so
I
hope
Evanston
signs
on
and
takes
a
leadership
role.
Thanks
thank.
H
Also
speaking
in
support
of
the
climate
action
resilience
plan,
I'm
representing
the
Evanston
rebuilding
warehouse
I'm,
also,
a
parent
leading
the
district
65
Green
Teams
I'm,
an
architect
in
the
community
and
a
member
of
citizens
greener
Evanston.
So
climate
action
is
one
of
the
greatest
threats
facing
our
planet,
and
yet
our
federal
government
is
rolling
back
environmental
legislation
as
I'm
sure
you're
very
well
aware
of
they're
for
local
communities
like
Evanston
need
to
lead
the
way.
The
climate
action
and
resilience
plan
provides
a
strong
path
forward
on
climate
issues
in
our
community.
H
The
Evanston
rebuilding
Warehouse
is
especially
excited
to
see
the
commitments
outlined
related
to
the
reduction,
diversion
and
reuse
of
building
materials
in
the
plan.
Construction
and
demolition
waste
is
39
percent
of
what
is
in
landfills
nationally
and
is
the
largest
single
stream
of
waste
in
a
landfill.
We
are
thrilled
to
see
strategies
related
to
reducing
these
materials
and
building
efficiencies
and
zero
waste
strategies
section
in
the
plan.
H
We
also
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
partner
with
Cook
County,
to
promote
the
already
in
place
demolition,
debris,
diversion
ordinance
and
lead
the
way
for
other
communities.
In
this
county
on
how
the
ordinance
can
have
a
positive
impact
from
the
perspective
of
advocating
for
the
children
attending
district
65
schools,
we
are
excited
so
that
the
district
65
will
be
increasing
their
commitments
to
environmental
equity
and
education.
H
In
the
curriculum
and
through
example,
we
are
eager
to
be
thoughtful
partners
with
the
city
and
look
forward
to
participating
in
any
way
that
we
can
to
ensure
the
plan
success.
Lastly,
I
would
like
to
turn
through
our
audience
and
have
all
those
who
support
the
climate
action
plan
to
stand
quite
a
few
supporters
in
the
room.
Thank
you
thank.
I
I
It
would
have
been
a
lot
easier
to
do
this
work
if
it
had
been
started
30
years
ago
and
there's
a
lot
of
emotion
for
some
of
us
and
thinking
about
that
and
the
lost
time
and
the
increased
cost.
But
we
really
don't
have
another
moment
to
spare
and
I
think
that
the
National
Climate
Assessment
that
was
released
the
day
after
Thanksgiving
underscores
that
for
all
of
us,
so
the
environment
board
is
ready
to
help.
I
Do
everything
we
can
to
put
this
these
goals
into
policy
and
action
and
we're
going
to
look
forward
to
working
with
the
all
of
the
fabulous
community
organizations
we
have,
some
of
whom
are
represented
here
and
and
with
the
excellent
staff
that
we
have
in
place
to
help
move
this
forward
and-
and
it
gives
me
hope
that
we're
taking
this
action
here
in
Evanston
tonight.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
J
Good
evening,
chair
Fleming
members
of
the
committee
director
Hemingway,
my
name
is
Kumar
Jensen
I'm,
the
sustainability
coordinator
in
the
city
manager's
office
here
and
so
this
evening,
I'm
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
climate
action
plan.
I'm
not
gonna,
do
a
point-by-point
walkthrough
of
the
43
page
document,
but
I'm
gonna
attempt
to
paint
a
quick
history
of
it
as
well
as
talk
about
what
I'm,
what
we
believe
to
be
a
key
components
of
the
plan
are
and
so
just
to
set
a
little
bit
of
a
context.
J
Evanston
has
developed
two
previous
climate
action
plans,
one
in
2008
and
the
other
in
2014,
the
city
and
the
community
were
successful
in
achieving
the
goals
set
out
within
that
plan.
One
of
the
key
differences,
though
in
thinking
about
those
two
plans
versus
the
current
plan
that
we're
looking
at,
is
that
those
two
plans
focused
exclusively
on
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions
through
things
like
energy
efficiency,
renewable
energy,
waste
reduction
and
transportation.
J
So
just
a
refresher:
what
do
we
mean
when
we
talk
about
climate
change,
and
we
say
these
words
of
climate
action
or
climate
mitigation
or
climate
adaptation
and
climate
resilience?
These
are
the
two
definitions
that
we
use
within
the
plan.
The
primary
way
I
like
to
think
about
it
is
that
climate
action
or
mitigation
is
thinking
about
how
we
reduce
our
impact
or
contribution
to
climate
change
or
resilience
acknowledges
that
climate
change
is
actually
occurring
already,
and
so
we
need
to
be
planning
and
preparing
ourselves
now.
J
So
the
global
context,
as
is
already
mentioned,
the
fourth
National
Climate
Assessment,
was
released
about
two
weeks
ago
and
there
are
quite
a
few
very
jarring
points
that
came
out
of
it.
A
few
that
I
want
to
highlight
here,
because
I
think
it
does
help
us
understand
globally
what
this
means
in
a
Midwestern
context.
J
J
And
so,
if
we
recall
back
last
year
last
summer,
when
we
had
the
microburst
that
tore
through
a
specific
section
of
town
that
type
of
storm
intensity
and
that
we're
expecting
to
see
more
types
of
events
like
that.
And
then
with
the
combination
of
increased
temperature
and
more
severe
storms,
may
be
taking
place
in
less
less
frequency.
We
may
also
see
some
drought
conditions
looking
later
into
the
middle
and
end
of
the
century
impact
zone.
So
what
is
actually
gonna
happen
to
the
systems
that
we
think
about?
J
So
when,
when
the
working
group
was
creating
this
plan,
they
thought
about
three
systems,
in
particular
human
or
social
systems,
environmental
or
ecosystems,
and
then
built
systems,
so
primarily
thinking
about
infrastructure,
buildings
and
transportation
and
utilities.
And
so
these
are
the
five
sort
of
big
impacts
that
they
have
noted
and
we've
been
able
to
pull
out
of
out
of
that
data,
and
so
all
of
the
actions
that
you
see
in
the
resilience
section
of
the
plan
speak
back
to
these
impacts
and
the
four
hazards
that
were
identified
so
moving
forward.
J
Thinking
about
that
historical
context
and
what
we've
already
done
since
really
2005
and
2008,
when
the
first
climate
action
plan
was
developed,
the
city
has
continued
to
make
commitments
and
reaffirm
commitments
globally
and
locally
to
ensure
that
we
are
leading
and
working
on
priorities
related
to
fighting
climate
change,
and
so
these
are
just
a
number
of
them.
If
I
put
on
them
all
up,
we'd
be
we'd,
be
here
all
night
long.
There
are
a
bunch
of
commitments
that
we've
made,
and
so
these
are
the
ones
that
have
really
influenced
us.
J
The
most
I
would
say
this
is
this:
is
the
mayor
almost
exactly
a
year
ago
signing
the
Chicago
climate
Charter,
which
was
a
climate
charter
devised
by
the
city
of
Chicago,
to
try
to
unite
organizations,
primarily
city
city
governments
around
the
globe?
Around
specific
actions
related
to
fighting
climate
change,
and
so
Mary
Haggerty
signed
that
commitment,
and
it
continues
to
serve
as
a
guidance
for
for
staff
and
policy
making.
J
So
with
with
all
of
those
commitments
and
thinking
about
what
the
global
context
is,
the
mayor
decided
to
create
a
climate
action.
Advisory
group
called
the
climate
action
in
resilience
plan
working
group
to
actually
develop
a
plan
or
carp
as
we
as
we
tend
to
refer
to
it
in
the
plan
to
actually
chart
a
path
forward,
and
so
in
November
of
last
year,
carp
at
their
first
meeting.
So
these
seventeen
members
of
which
Laura
Marquez
Viso
and
Joel
Freeman,
if
you're
both
here.
J
Thank
you.
So
the
climate
action
group
spent
hundreds
of
hours
working
on
this
plan.
They
broke
into
task
forces
we
held
over
20
community
engagement
opportunities,
and
so
most
of
those
involved
us
going
out
and
meeting
with
organizations
in
doing
presentations.
We
had
very
few
of
the
come
to
us
and
we'll
talk
at
you
type
of
formats,
and
so
they
spend
all
of
their
time
researching
utilizing
the
data
that
was
provided
using
historical
information
that
staff
was
they
would
have
provided
to
come
up
with
the
plan
that
we
see
here
today.
J
So
staff
did
not
directly
author
this
plan,
we
advise
on
this
plan.
This
is
a
community
written
plan,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
the
entire
group
for
their
tremendous
work.
They
have
their
last
meeting
in
November,
and
so
they
are
now
passing
passing
this
plan
on
to
the
city
staff
and
additional
advisory
boards
continue.
The
work
so
again
here
is
mayor,
Haggerty
addressing
the
group
at
one
of
their
meetings
where
they
got
to
have
some
pizza
that
night
and
so
looking
looking
forward.
J
So
in
those
meetings,
they
came
up
with
a
few
really
big
goals.
There
are
dozens
of
goals
within
the
plan,
but
these
are
the
guiding
the
highest
level
guiding
ones
and
I
know.
Many
of
you
received
some
inquiries
and
emails
regarding
the
first
one,
the
underbust
Island,
noble
electricity
by
2030
goal
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
about
that
as
we
wrap
up,
but
these
are
the
guiding
goals
for
the
plan,
and
so
when
we
think
about
how
all
the
other
actions
are
going
to
fit
in
and
support.
J
Zero
waste
is
an
interesting
concept,
but
it
does
have
a
technical
definition
and
so
mostly
what
it's
referring
to
is
saying.
We
are
going
to
send
the
zero
or
almost
zero
amount
of
the
material
generated
in
our
community
to
the
landfill.
So
it
doesn't
mean
that
so
that
may
be
through
composting.
It
may
be
through
recycling
or
different
types
of
reuse.
But
that's
that's
that's
what
the
concept
means
and.
A
J
A
K
K
I
just
want
everyone
to
know,
I
mean
we're
all
on
board
with
this.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
support,
and
we
understand
I
think
everything.
What
doesn't
work
real
well
for
the
council
is
that
it's
really
really
hard
to
read
the
same
blast
email
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
and
over
again
I
responded
to
one
just
thinking.
Is
there
a
real
person
behind
this,
even
though
it
was
signed
supposedly
by
an
evidence
and
resident
didn't
get
anything
back?
K
J
Excellent,
so
to
put
this
all
in
context
of
what's
happening
locally,
so
you've
already
talked
about
the
climate
impacts.
But
what
do
we?
What
do
we
mean
when
you
talk
about
what
is
getting
to
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy
mean?
So
historically,
if
you
look
at
the
2005
through
our
2015,
our
performance
bar
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
graph,
that's
showing
the
data
that
we
already
have
that's
showing
what
we've
already
been
able
to
do.
It
shows
that
community-wide
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
peaked
in
2008,
so
remember
that
first
plan
that
was
developed.
J
J
So,
looking
at
the
actual
plan,
it's
broken
into
five
sections:
I'm
not
going
to
go
over.
It's
okay,
I'm,
not
gonna,
run
through
each
of
these,
but
I'm
going
to
show
you
what's
in
there
and
I'll
be
glad
to
take
questions
on
them
and
so
before
we
actually
got
into
what
the
actual
actions
are
gonna
be
within
the
plane
and
what
the
goals
were.
We
wanted
to
talk
about
how
this
plan
should
be
implemented.
What
are
the
prints.
A
And
I'd
say
one
thing
before
you
of
course,
I
know
you're
going
and
we
appreciate
the
work
you
all
put
in
here.
I
just
be
happy,
my
voice
started
very
late
and
we
and
I
know
I
have
a
few
questions.
We've
read
the
plan,
so
if
you
can
go
through
this
and
then
shorter
a
bit
faster
with
the
other
ones
and
we'll
get
to
the
questions,
did
you
want
me
to
skip
the
guiding.
J
The
plan,
the
the
the
two
main
sections
of
the
plan
of
the
climate
action
in
mitigation
section,
so
it
has
six
focus
areas.
The
climate
resilience
and
adaptation
also
has
six
areas
so
they're,
equally
balanced,
and
so
these
are
the
buckets
or
the
the
areas
where
we
will
be
focusing
a
lot
of
our
work.
There
is
a
lot
of
intersection
and
a
lot
of
overlap,
so
you
may
see
things
in
multiple
places.
That's
intentional
to
demonstrate
that
there
is
broad
support
and
from
multiple
vantage
points,
points
these
things
are
important.
J
So
again
as
we
talk
about
renewable
energy,
I
already
talked
about
this
one,
but
this
is
just
an
example
of
what
the
goal
says
and
what
the
where
we
are
right
now
21%
is
renewable
for
the
whole
for
the
whole
community,
and
then
we
have
79%
that
that
shouldn't
say
total
electricity,
that's
actually
the
remaining
amount,
and
so
that's
what
we
have
to
make
up
with
in
green
infrastructure,
again
just
giving
some
examples
here.
That
is
our
the
definition
or
part
of
the
definition
that
we're
using
when
we
talk
about
green
infrastructure.
J
All
all
of
that
information
will
be
posted
on
the
website
with
those
original
letters
just
waiting
on
on
one
final
signature,
and
so
this
just
underscores
the
importance
that
the
city
cannot
carry
this
ourselves
as
an
institution.
We
rely
on
those
within
the
community
to
help
support
this
work,
and
so
the
large
employer
is
taking
a
step
like
this
is
incredibly
helpful
in
this
process.
So
that's
that's
the
end
of
the
formal
presentation
I'd
be
glad
to.
K
So
Kumar
I
have
another
question
too.
To
do
this,
we're
gonna
have
to
make
some
adjustments
in
how
we
do
business
as
a
city,
whether
it's
fewer
garbage
trucks,
fewer
I.
Have
you
looked
at
that?
That's
that's
something!
That's
really
important
to
me.
I
mean
what
what
is
what
is
city
service
provision,
going
to
look
like
hand-in-hand
with
the
climate
action
plan?
I,
don't
need
an
answer
tonight
on
earth,
but
I
by
the
time.
This
goes
to
council
right
next
door.
C
L
Just
like
to
second
alderman
braithwaite's
comments,
just
now
a
huge
thank
you
to
the
carp
group
for
just
an
amazing
plan
that
they've
put
together
it.
It
really
does.
You
can
tell
it-
was
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
hours
of
work.
It's
really
timely,
because,
in
addition
to
the
National
Assessment
that
we
just
was
just
issued
a
couple
weeks
ago,
the
Intergovernmental
Panel
on
Climate
Change
also
issued
a
report
in
October.
L
You
don't
want
to
say
anything
is
special.
Oh
I
know
I
mean
these
goals
seem
just
really
ambitious,
but
I.
Remember
back
when
we
were
working
on
developing
the
first
climate
action
plan,
and
we
said
oh
boy,
we're
going
to
decrease
emissions.
What
was
a
13%
by
2012
and-
and
we
all
said,
sounds
nice
and
I.
You
know
I
I,
certainly
I
really
was
pretty
skeptical,
but
we
got
that
first
goal.
We
thought
the
second
goal
in
our
second
plan,
so
I
have
every
confidence
that
working
together
as
a
community.
L
J
Real
briefly,
I'll
say
that
I
think
the
the
two
primary
ones
are
stormwater
management
and
green
infrastructure.
There's
already
a
lot
of
work
internally
happening
in
that
area
and
I
think
internally
we're
primed
for
a
new
planning
process
around
stormwater
management,
because
that
is
one
of
the
primary
impacts
that
were
likely
to
see.
That
is
it's
very
important
that
we
get
ahead
of
that
as
much
as
we
can
and
the
other
is
building
energy
consumption.
J
Purchasing
renewable
energy
and,
and
then
the
other
is
that,
broadly
speaking,
throughout
the
grid
region,
there
have
been
more
coal-fired
plants
that
have
been
retired
and
replaced
primarily
with
natural
gas,
but
also
with
renewable
energy,
and
that
actually
impacts
our
emissions
locally.
Because
that's
where
we
get
our
energy
from
and
so
our
purchase
of
renewable
energies
here,
locally
sort
of
incentivizes
that
switch.
And
so
but
it's
been
primarily
through
that
not
through
energy
efficiency
and.
J
Do
not
understand
law
that
are
not
allowed
to
participate,
and
so
we're
trying
to
think
about
what
role
the
city
should
play
in
that
space,
whether
or
not
since
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
purchase
on
behalf
of
what
can
we
do
to
connect
people
with
better
options
and
better
choices,
not
only
for
just
purchasing
renewable
energy,
but
also
for
on-site
generation
of
solar.
So.
B
Actually
wanted
to
thank
mayor,
Haggerty
and
the
carp
group
and
Kumar
and
all
of
the
organizations
and
and
residents
committed
to
this
I
thought
we
were
doing
enough
with
aggregation
and
I'm,
always
being
better
informed
and
pushed
more.
So
thank
you
for
paying
attention
to
this
and
working
so
hard
on
it.
Thank
you
all.
A
A
A
M
Hi
I'm
Sarah,
vanderwick
and
I'm
a
first
ward
resident
and
excuse
me
I,
really
appreciate
the
thoroughness
of
the
report
that
the
complaint
advisory
committee
has
submitted
and
it's
clear
that
their
research
showed
that
one
of
the
greatest
needs
for
change
in
the
complaint
process
is
the
assurance
of
the
community
that
complaints
are
given
timely
and
thorough
investigation
and
fair
review
and
I
hope.
This
committee
moves
this
proposal
forward.
I
do
want
to
say
one
thing,
that's
missing
in
the
report
and
it
maybe
is
not
appropriate
for
the
report.
M
It
may
be
when
they
really
work
out
details
that
would
be
more
appropriate,
but
I
think
there
needs
to
be
emphasis
on
realistic
and
reasonable
time
frames
for
each
of
the
steps
and
the
complaint
process,
and
because
that's
one
of
the
things
that
things
just
drag
on
forever
and
so
people
really
lose
heart
and
they
just
don't
believe
that
anything's
going
to
happen
and
I
would
suggest
that
this
might
be
a
real
place
where
the
auditor
could
take
a
right.
There's
a
little
ambiguity
about
the
role
of
the
auditor
versus
the
the
other.
M
I
can't
remember
the
acronym
o-p-s
in
doing
the
investigations
and
if,
if
things
weren't
done
in
a
timely
fashion,
that
would
be
a
good
place
for
the
auditor
to
step
in,
and
that
would
be
an
incentive
to
o-p-s
to
get
things
done
more
quickly.
So
any
rate
I
just
wanted
to
say,
I
really
appreciate
it
and
I
hope
this
forward.
Thanks
Thank.
N
Okay
I
just
want
to
say
it's
amazing,
really
amazing
how
the
city
of
Evanston
council
members
before
and
after
it's
not
working
on
the
board
of
ethics
rules
and
regulations.
Okay,
the
ordinance
2016
I
came
here
for
the
Board
of
Ethics
and
I
mentioned
to
miss
to
our
mayor
at
that
time.
Tisdale
stop
confusion
about
a
lot
of
things
that
was
going
on
back
then.
Okay,
other
ones
this
just
left
out
but
I
believe
she
was
one
of
the
ones.
N
Preservation,
real
quick,
landmark,
Simpson
endeavor.
It
hurts
me
to
my
heart
to
go
up
and
down
Simpson
and
see
what
is
happening
to
Miss
Lorraine
Martin
building,
not
a
landmark,
not
a
sign,
not
nothing.
If
this
woman
was
so
important
to
this
community,
why
did
the
city
not
take
actions?
Do
I
have
to
come
up
here,
the
we
have
to
come
up
here.
That's
your
job!
Isn't
it
a
part
of
it?
Some
kind
of
way
don't
make
a
landmark
out
of
that
doggone
building
before
it
changes.
I
know
we
have
pictures
and
the
man
mr.
N
Katz,
what
whoever
I
know.
That's
his
money.
Okay,
but
Dad
don't
come
on.
Let's
get
you
know,
have
respect
I,
hear
everybody
talking
about
respect
all
the
time.
Where
is
it
preservation,
I'm
speaking
for
the
C
in
EF,
the
colored
network,
for
equality
and
fairness,
my
group,
and
for
the
co-founder
of
the
C
and
P
now
I
believe
tonight
you
all
should
not
vote
on
this,
not
the
Human
Services,
not
the
council,
until
the
real
chief
come
into
this
town.
N
N
N
N
A
C
Don't
Madame
chair
if
I
could
just
mr.
Cree
before
she
leaves
and
I
guess
for
anybody
here.
Knowing
you
know
in
our
in
our
last
meeting
we
did
discuss
the
issues
with
the
Ethics
Board
and
the
need
for
change
in
that
I.
Don't
know
if
she
was
in
the
audience,
but
that
will
be
covered
in
our
January
rules
meeting
and
we'll
start
that
process.
O
Evening,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
Network
of
protection,
but
before
that
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
council
in
the
city
manager.
At
the
last
meeting
he
said
that
the
council,
the
police
things
were
supposed
to
happen
during
the
week
of
November
the
truth.
What
happened
when
we
were
here?
Anything
no
updates
tonight
on
that
prostrate.
O
A
O
I'm,
here
speaking
to
the
proposal
from
the
members
of
the
citizen
police
complaint
assessment
committee,
they
put
before
you
a
proposal
with
recommendations
that
they
are
hoping
that
you
will
implement
starting
on
page
208,
which
is
the
intake
process
that
they
have
laid
out
and
everything
we
met
with
for
wasn't
for
members
of
yeah
for
members
of
that
committee
and
they
went
through
their
outlines
on
these
issues
here.
But
they
would
be
recommending
to
you
one
the
intake
process
that
they
are
talking
about
in
having
it
takes
things
away
from
the
citizen.
O
It
does
not
in
love
the
citizen,
one
of
the
things
once
they
do
the
intake,
then
the
auditor
that
they
are
asking
to
put
in
an
additional
person
that
will
be
doing
the
same
duties
that
the
deputy
chief
was
doing
over
o-p-s
to
decide
whether
or
not
this
would
be
a
complaint
that
would
be
investigated
or
if
it
would
be
an
alternative
dispute
resolution,
one
that
is
different
from
what
they
have
now.
What
we
have
now
is
their
decision
all
of
their
complaints
being
processed,
so
we
are
moving
back.
O
Writing,
yes,
the
investigation
and
the
police
audit
recommendation,
as
the
lady
has
stated
before,
it
is
kind
of
confusing
to
know
what
exactly
is
his
decision
is
his
position
is
to
look
at
the
complaints
and
determine
whether
or
not
it
should
go
forward.
If
that's
the
case,
Ben
that's
moving
back
from
what
we
put
in
place
in
2008,
which
says
that
any
complaint
that
a
citizen
put
forth
was
investigated.
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
do
that,
so
we
supposed
to
be
moving
forward,
not
backwards.
Sorry.
A
Miss
Esther
we
need
to
get
on
to
miss
Esther.
We
need
to
get
on
to
the
presentation-
and
this
might
clear
up
some
of
your
question-
that
you
have
no.
O
Only
thing
that
and
I
truly
ask
this
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart
and
I
hope,
y'all
think
about
it.
The
people
that
voted
for
you
take
this
to
the
ward
and
discuss
it
with
the
people
in
the
community.
Don't
have
them
to
come
down
here
and
say
you
have
three
minutes,
take
it
to
the
war
and
top
it
too,
with
the
people.
The
people
need
to
be
turned
on
this.
Thank
you.
C
P
C
Guess
we
may
need
that
working.
I
P
P
So
we've
been
working
for
14
months
together
evaluating
and
critiquing
the
current
complaint
system
in
Evanston
and
making
recommendations
to
change
that
system.
We
have
studied
best
practices,
as
well
as
the
current
practices,
including
the
CPAC,
the
citizens,
police,
Advisory
Committee,
as
well
as
a
role
at
HSC
plays
in
citizen
complaints.
Currently
we
have
done
a
survey
of
the
community.
We've
done
research
on
national
best
practices
of
civilian
oversight
of
law
enforcement
and
how
different
communities
deal
with
complaints.
P
What
has
gone
into
our
recommendation
is
research
of
best
practices.
What
other
communities
are
doing?
What
academics
and
police
departments
have
found
works
for
them
and
well
what
the
general
consensus
is
that
there's
not
one
best
practice
that
generally
communities
have
to
tailor
a
solution
to
fit
the
needs
of
the
community,
and
so
we
started
by
reaching
out
to
the
community
and
addressing
what
concerns
folks
had
about
the
current
system.
P
We've
looked
into
the
general
practices,
the
general
order
of
how
the
police
department
handles
certain
complaints
and
historically,
the
way
the
city
of
Evanston
has
has
complaint
process
has
come
about,
has
been
evolved
over
time.
It
wasn't
a
unified
process,
so
it
is
a
bit
disjointed
and
one
of
the
recommendations
that
we
make
is
to
to
connect
all
the
pieces.
P
P
We
would
recommend
that
there's
a
new
intake
process.
Currently
complaints
are
made
to
the
police
department
generally
to
the
supervising
officer
of
the
alleged
offender.
We
would
recommend
an
independent
intake
outside
of
the
police
department.
This
is
a
best
practice
and
allow
some
independence
and
keeps
the
the
barrier
for
those
folks
who
would
be
hesitant
to
make
complaints
about
police
officers
to
the
police.
P
We
would
recommend
an
alternative
dispute
resolution
program.
A
facilitated
mediation
program
for
select
complaints
where
an
officer
and
a
community
member
would
have
an
opportunity
with
facilitated
mediators
to
have
a
conversation
to
try
to
resolve
disputes.
That
would
be
an
alternative
to
the
investigative
process.
It
would
also
be
voluntary
so
that
both
parties
would
choose
to
do
that
and
in
that
choice
would
forego
a
formal
investigation.
I.
C
Just
a
quick
question,
so
I
was
wondering
about
other
municipalities
that
may
do
it.
You
say:
Fairfax,
County,
Eugene,
Portland,
San
Jose!
Is
there
any
local
in
the
state
of
Illinois
that
use
mediation?
No,
no
I'm
used
looking
at
your
because
you
spent
some
time
talking
about
this
and
the
port
as
an
auditor
as.
P
Can't
think
of
a
local
community
that
uses
an
auditor
model
all
right
keep
moving
Thanks,
so
we
would
recommend
the
city
contract
and
Auditor.
We
debated
having
recommending
that
to
be
a
full-time
position,
and
our
recommendation
is
that
that
would
be
a
contract
position
I'll
get
into
that
more
later,
and
we
would
also
imagine
that
the
civilian
review
board
would
have
some
say
in
crafting
the
scope
of
work
for
the
police
auditor.
P
We've
covered
a
bunch
of
this,
so
critique
of
the
current
system.
Generally,
our
critique
is
structural,
not
individual.
The
people
that
are
involved
in
the
current
system
there's
no
bad
actors.
Our
critique
is
the
structure
of
the
system
and
our
recommendations
is
to
create
a
more
structured
system,
with
more
oversight,
more
transparency
and
more
accountability.
P
P
There's
not
a
current
person
in
the
in
the
community
that
handles
complaints.
Complaints,
go
to
the
supervising
officer
of
the
alleged
officer,
somebody's
making
a
complaint
against.
So
there's
a
lack
of
uniform
training.
There's
a
lack
of
uniform
intake
there
is.
There
can
be
a
perception
of
making
a
complaint
to
the
about
the
police,
to
the
police,
that
there
could
be
bias
or
a
conflict
of
interest
and
that's
just
a
structural
problem.
P
P
P
It's
it's
a
review
model
when
you
look
at
best
practices.
It's
a
review
model
of
complaints
and
the
biggest
thing
a
review
model
should
do
is
add.
Transparency
and
transparency
to
the
process
and
CPAC
does
not
do
a
good
job
of
adding
transparency
to
the
process
as
a
member
of
the
public.
If
you
try
to
engage
in
the
CPAC
process,
it's
really
hard
to
see
what
the
complaint
is
about
and
how
it's
resolved.
At
the
HSC
level.
P
It
gets
to
be
a
little
bit
better
because
the
summary
complaint
is
released
to
the
public,
but
at
the
CPAC
level,
it's
not
so.
As
a
member
of
the
public,
you
don't
really
know,
what's
what's
being
discussed
and
so
part
there's
a
lack
of
transparency,
and
currently
all
they
do
is
either
agree
or
disagree
with
the
Chiefs
disposition.
They
don't
have
any
policy
power
or
recommendation
power
outside
of
that.
P
P
We
would
have
an
updated
web
intake
form
so
that
you
could
make
a
complaint
anytime
from
anywhere,
but
importantly,
we
would
recommend
that
there
would
be
a
specific
intake
person,
independent
of
the
police
department.
We
envision
that
person
as
being
in
the
civic
center
and
working
business
hours,
and
we
were
would
recommend
that
that
would
be
folded
into
the
role
of
somebody
already
here.
P
So,
moving
on
to
the
investigation
and
the
police
auditor,
how
we
would
recommend
that
the
investigation
still
takes
place
by
o-p-s
investigators
are
expensive
and
it's
hard
to
find
qualified
investigators
and
the
police
departments
going
to
be
investigating
allegations
of
misconduct
anyway,
so
that
there's,
if
you
have
an
independent
investigator,
you
can
have
a
duplicate
investigation.
I
have.
A
A
question
so
with
the
auditor
you
have
an
auditor,
you
see
a
different
person
taking
the
intake
and
then
you
have
an
auditor
following
the
entire
process
for
each
complaint.
Yes,
they
don't
just
so
the
auditor,
if
I'm
correct,
also
comes
in
if
the
person
doesn't
like
the
ruling
of
opiates.
An
auditor
comes
in
as
well
to
do
a
review
of
that.
So.
P
Can
direct
o-p-s
to
speak
to
specific,
with
witnesses,
ask
specific
questions,
review
a
specific
documentation,
go
back
and
ask
follow-up
questions
that
were
asked
the
first
time.
O-P-S
does
a
professional
and
thorough
job?
This
adds
another
layer
of
independent
eyes
outside
of
the
police
department
that
can
help
direct
those
investigations
and.
A
P
So
one
other
thing
that
they
would
do
is
screen
cases
that
are
appropriate
for
alternative
dispute
resolution
and
so,
along
with
the
police
department,
they
would
recognize
that
a
certain
class
of
cases
are
right
for
mediation
and
would
present
that
option
to
the
complainant
and
the
police
officer.
If
they
both
both
agreed,
then
the
case
would
go
towards
that
mediation,
Avenue.
P
There
would
be
some
oversight
that
the
system
wasn't
being
as
abused
as
a
as
a
process
of
avoiding
formal
investigations
by
the
police
department,
and
we
would
recommend
that
the
City
Council
employs
a
consultant
to
create
that
ADR
system
from
the
ground
up
with
stakeholder
involvement.
I
think
from
the
folks,
the
professional
folks
that
we've
talked
to
it's
important
to
have
people
who
are
going
to
be
involved
in
the
process
have
a
say
in
how
the
process
is
created,
because
something
like
this
just
won't
work.
If
there's
not
buy-in
and
Trust.
P
P
A
So
can
you
explain
to
me
your
kind
of
the
group's
rationale
around
the
would
it
just
say,
I
think
anyway,
we're
talking
about
the
members
will
be
kind
of
based
on
strong
character
and
experience
rather
than
education
and
professional
skills.
You
know
I
think
characters
are
great
but
I'm.
Looking
at
your
application,
the
mayor
is
looking
at
an
application.
You
know
I'm
not
really
sure
that
that
has
given
us
a
window
into
someone's
character
and
what
I
think
is
somewhat
of
good
character.
A
Might
not
you
know,
altima
Braithwaite
might
not
agree
so
I
guess
those
are
my
concerns.
If
we're
gonna
look
at
character
over
some
kind
of
tangible
skill
right,
because
these
people
are
gonna,
be
you
know,
involved
in
reviewing
these
complaints-
and
you
know
just
having
some
other
skills
and
I
think
maybe
go
outside
of
just
of
good
character.
Sure.
F
P
C
A
P
A
P
P
P
A
We
don't
and
I
think
that
our,
if
that
would
involve
our
new
council,
miss
Benson
to
look
into
because
the
memo
that,
when
I
joined
HSC-
and
it
was
unclear
to
me
what
we
had
the
authority
to
do-
need
the
memo.
That's
in
the
back,
you
know
I
think
we
would
need
to
hash
that
out
more
because
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
preclude
us
from
doing
that,.
A
F
A
So
if
you
want
to
speak,
you
have
to
come
to
the
microphone
because
I
don't
do
a
dialogue
in
that
way,
but
hold
on
so
that
I
saw
that
would
be.
You
know
again
for
another
discussion,
because
we
would
just
change
the
rules
of
HSC
which
are
not
impossible
to
do,
but
then
look
at
some
other
things
that
are
laid
out
if
I'm
correct
and
the
collective
bargaining
and
discipline
of
officers.
That
is,
you
know
sure
that
we
don't
obviously
do
the
bargaining
up
here.
A
C
Summarize
it
like
this
and
again
I
realized
that
these
are
all
very
wonderful
recommendations.
So,
just
as
a
general
rule
as
a
city
council,
we
don't
get
involved
with
discipline
of
staff,
so
the
police
department,
although
I,
recognise,
functions,
a
lot
differently
than
Public
Works,
the
library
board,
etc.
I
don't
look
over
what
the
city
manager
has
done
in
terms
of
someone
being
actually
late
to
work.
So
that's
where
these
comments
are
sharp,
just
to
put
it
in
the
proper
context.
P
And
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
the
next
next
slide:
the
police
chief's
disposition,
the
police
chief,
has
the
final
disposition
and
the
role
of
HSC
is
transparency
and
holding
the
chief
accountable.
If
HHSC
and
the
City
Council
disagree
with
the
Chiefs
disposition
and
the
structure
of
power
and
police
powers
come
from,
the
city
code
come
from
the
residents
through
the
elected
officials
who
can
hire
and
fire
the
city
manager
who
can
hire
and
fire
the
police
chief.
P
P
This
is
just
another
outline
of
the
proposed
process.
We
just
talked
about
that
and
then
finally,
just
want
to
address
two
concerns.
One
is
that
there's
not
a
problem
with
the
current
process
and
I
think
there
are
some
problems
with
the
current
process.
It's
not
very
transparent,
there's,
not
much
oversight,
your
trust
in
the
police
to
do
a
good
job
and
even
if
the
police
do
a
good
job.
P
The
other
I
think
potential
concern
is
the
cost
of
this.
We
understand
the
budget.
Concerns
of
the
city
understand
the
work
that
you
all
have
done
recently,
but
what
we're
proposing,
we
think,
is
a
modest
proposal
and
that
if
the
city
events
have
wants
a
better
complaint
system,
they
need
to
spend
more
money
than
they
currently
do.
Spend.
A
C
P
C
Much
and
I
think
what's
interesting
in
responding
I,
don't
know
if
it's
antidotal
or
if
there's
a
correlation
I
mean
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I
heard
from
the
police
chief
is
that
by
having
the
body-worn
cameras
that
that's
going
to
tell
both
sides
of
the
story
in
a
very
clear
way,
and
there
was
some
speculation
that,
with
the
body
cameras
that
we
would
actually
see
a
decrease
in
complaints
as
a
result
of
that
now
again,
idle
chat
could
be
entered
a
little
I,
don't
know
if
it's
true
but
body.
L
That
was
a
point.
A
point
I
was
gonna
make
to
that.
We
we
have
seen
it's
been
a
big
transition
this
last
year
with
body
worn
cameras,
and
it
would
be
interesting
to
analyze
just
what
kind
of
an
impact
I
think
that's
having
I
I
would
tend
to
think
that
it
would
be
part
of
what's
bringing
those
numbers.
C
P
And
and
part
of
the
police
process
right
now,
partly
what
we're
talking
about
these,
the
numbers
you
know
from
2017,
don't
really
include
the
body
worn
camera,
but
yeah
right
now,
the
city
of
Evanston
police
department.
If
they're,
if
it's
a
videotaped
complaint,
they
will
show
the
complainant
the
about
the
footage
you
know
for
everybody
involved,
including
the
process
that
we're
recommending
the
footage
is
invaluable
about
deciding.
C
A
A
We
want
to
give
to
a
new
police
chief
and
say:
okay,
now
go
with
it,
because
they're
going
to
come
with
their
own
bag
of
experience
that
you
know
we
might
be
able
to
utilize,
and
so
I
would
like
to
have
this
come
back
in
January
or
February,
as
we're
gonna
do
with
the
report
that
we
were
given
last
month
when
we
have
the
new
chief.
Who
can
you
know
at
least
start
to
digest
this
and
speak
to
you
all
in
that
kind
of
thing?
A
My
my
couple
concerns
just
just
off:
the
back
are
I
like
the
investigator
advisor
or
whatever
you
call
it
them
I'm
concerned
or
I'm
confused
I,
guess
of
why
we
need
that
person
for
each
step
of
the
way
versus
after
o,
pious
does
their
review,
and
maybe
the
citizen
says
well
or
the
new
seat
pack
says:
I,
don't
agree,
I
want
more
investigation.
So
that's
my
first
concern
with
that.
I
definitely
and
I'm
been
on
CPAC
I.
Definitely
think
it
is
time
for
restructuring
of
CPAC.
So
I
look
forward
to
that.
I'ma.
A
Ask
them
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
part
of
the
mediation
I
like
the
mediation.
My
concern
would
be
making
sure
we
safeguards.
So
people
have
the
choice
between
you
know:
mediation
or
violent,
like
an
official
complaint
that
you
know,
just
as
we
saw
in
the
ethics,
for
we
don't
have
you
know
either
officers
or
citizens
who
continue
to
bring
kind
of
what
he
was
rude
to
me
and
not
that
you
know
that's
not
something
worth
mediating
through,
but
that
there's
a
you
know
formality
there.
Also
that
we
don't
have
people
going
through.
A
You
know
a
lot
of
mediations
well,
maybe
they
should
actually
be
under
an
Opie
s
investigation
and
if
I'm
correct,
you
can't
do
both.
So
if
I
go
to
mediation
and
I
feel
like
well
officer,
Braithwaite
still
has
a
bad
attitude.
I
can't
then
go
to
Opia.
So
I
would
want
a
lot
of
clarity
in
that
before
we
send
people
down
a
road
that
maybe
it's
going
to
cause.
A
You
know
frustration
I,
do
appreciate
that
you're
looking
at
kind
of
speeding
the
process
up,
because
we
do
have
people
who
come
and
say
this
happened
in
February
I
didn't
file
to
March.
You
know
and
it's
a
very
kind
of
slow,
although
thorough
process
now
so
I
think
speeding
it
up.
I
am
very
interested
in
the
software
I.
Don't
really
know
a
lot
about
that,
but
that
sounds
interesting
to
me
and
then
the
other
partner
I
think
I've
discussed.
A
This
already
is
you
know,
I
do
think
it's
worth
us
looking
at
HSC
and
what
we
do
with
those
reports,
because
I
am
NOT
in
the
negotiation
and
I'm.
Not
a
labor
lawyer.
I
would
want
to
be
very
clear
that
you
know
how
we
how
we
think
through
changing
what
we
can
do,
because
we
don't
do
discipline,
it's
very
clear,
I,
don't
want
the
citizen
base
to
think
they're
going
to
come
here
and
the
officer
is
gonna,
be
fired
because
HSS,
you
know
HSC
says
so
so
I
think
we
need
to
be.
A
You
know
really
consulting
our
legal
team
and
you
know
the
chief
and
such
about
those
things,
because
we
don't
want
to
set
the
city
up
for
any
kind
of
legal
action
from
our
collective
bargaining
units
and
then
chief
I
actually
had
a
question
for
you.
If
you
don't
mind
since
you're
here
and
then
I
I
know
that
he's
your
speaker
and
that's
my
good.
If
you
are
someone
else,
had
something
to
add,
you
can
come
up,
we
just
don't
do
a
dialogue
back
and
forth
from
the
chair,
so
I'm
chief
can
I.
A
My
question
for
you
goes
back
into
some
of
that.
We
just
what
I
just
mentioned
about
what
we
can
do
as
HSE
right
now.
We
just
receive
it
and
file
it,
and
you
know
it
goes
away.
I
guess
you
know,
doesn't
even
move
to
counts.
It's
just
kind
of
state,
no,
no
I'm
saying
for
our
current
process,
our
current
process,
so
with
the
collective
bargaining
and
all
that
stuff
in
which
your
purview
is
as
the
chief
as
it
sits.
Now,
what
else
can
we
do
with
the
o-p-s
reports?
Q
Ma'am
Sherman
I
believe
I
believe
that's
the
first
step
and
in
my
tenure
here
that
has
occurred
at
HSC.
There
have
been
concerns
that
weren't
addressed
in
in
the
reports
of
the
summaries
and
the
one
or
more
of
the
aldermen
have
directed
me
to
go
back
and
refine
a
specific
part
of
the
investigation,
and
so
you
you
you
you
currently
have
that
landed,
I
mean
if
you
chief,
this
wasn't
clear
to
me.
Can
you
can
clarify
this
point
of
the
investigation
for
me?
I,
it's
not
it.
We
don't
know
how
you
got
there.
Q
A
Q
You
do
not,
but
I
think
that
there's
a
more
sophisticated
way
to
go
about
that
and
ask
for
further
clarifications.
If
you
think,
if
you
think
it's
wrong
or
you
think
it's
incomplete,
there's
a
there's
a
way
to
ask
the
questions
to
force
your
concerns
to
be
answered.
You
know.
If,
if
we
start
off,
we
don't
agree
that
we're
starting
at
the
wrong
point.
If
you
say
TF
I
need
clarification
on
this,
because
it
this
this
part
of
the
investigation
wasn't
clear
to
me:
I
think
it
was
clear
or
it
would
either
prove
or
disprove.
A
Q
Think
that
what
the
committee
said
was
that
there
was
no
uniform
training.
I
think
this
is
part
and
parcel
of
what
first-line
supervisors
do
and,
and
once
again,
I
I
have
to
comment.
The
fact
that
we
are
in
Evanston
were
were
not
strangers.
If
you've
been
to
the
police
station
more
than
once,
you
probably
know
the
sergeant's,
that's
working
that
shift
that
sergeants
not
going
to
risk
a
complaint
against
him
or
her
by
blowing
you
off
or
being
discourteous,
they're
gonna
go
through
the
steps
that
they're
mandated
to
go
through.
Q
If
there's
the
citizen
is
expressing
a
concern
and
so
sure
can
we
standardize
that
absolutely
but
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
emphasize
is
we
kind
of
blew
right
past.
The
investigations
are
complete
and
thorough,
and
in
this
14
month
review
of
what
we
do,
there's.
No,
how
can
I
say,
hiccups,
mishandled
investigations
and,
and
so
now
we're
dealing
with
perceptions
of
concern
rather
than
in
two
killers
and
Hinds.
A
Q
This
is
my
second
Thalasso
Monday
Night
Football
game
that
I'll
miss.
They
think
that's
important.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
quick
comments
and
I'm
kind
of
appreciative.
The
hour
I
want
to
I
want
to
take
a
minute
and
thank
the
committee
for
the
time
they've
invested
in
this.
This
is
a
complex,
unique
set
of
circumstances
and
they
have
spent
some
time
on
that
and
I
respect.
The
time
they've
invested.
I
want
to
confine
my
comments
to
several
quick
points.
Q
Context
perception,
privacy
policy
poll
and
budget
I
want
to
assure
the
members
of
the
community
that
there's
a
context
of
what
we're
talking
about
in
the
data
base
that
we're
using
there
was
almost
70,000
recorded
police
activities.
We
had
10
complaints
in
a
hundred
and
seventy-six
compliments
and
so
I
I
think
that's
critical
to
in
intensive.
We
don't
need
to
panic
and
rush
through
this
I
think.
Q
Strangely,
this
is
one
of
the
first
time
that
Madeline
decree
and
I
are
in
complete
alignment.
This
is
going
to
have
to
wait
for
the
next
chief,
and
so
also
in
this
I
would
like
you
to
consider
the
last
time
you
were
in
any
unpleasant
situation
that
you
thought.
Perhaps
bureaucracy
or
more
bureaucracy
was
the
answer
to
your
problem
and
I.
Think
if
there's
a
perception
issue,
I
think
that
we
can
advertise
this
and
talk
to
that
perception,
rather
than
revamping
an
entire
process.
I
think
there's
some
things
that
certainly
can
be
upgraded.
Q
The
term
limits
is
its
discussion.
I
look
forward
to
listening
to
from
home,
but
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
that
you
that
you
need
on
a
committee
of
this
type
is
expertise,
whether
it's
CPAC
or
or
a
subsequent
committee.
You
have
to
have
some
expertise.
Some
experience
when
you're
looking
at
these
things
and
I
want
to
talk
about
privacy
just
for
a
minute,
but
but
in
a
context
that
will
be
different
than
where
you
think
I'm
going
I.
Think
the
online
tracking
system
is
is
a
good
idea.
There's
a
day
and
age.
Q
We
can.
We
can
track
envelopes,
we
can
track
packages,
I
I
see
the
value
of
it,
but
the
issue
is
going
to
become
who
has
access
to
the
tracking
and
one
of
the
issues
is
you
can
have
a
problem
with
police
conduct,
but
you
mean
that
one
I
have
exposed
to
everybody
on
the
worldwide
web.
How
exactly
we
got
to
that
police
conduct
that
you're
unhappy
with
and
it
may
be
extremely
personal
may
be
embarrassing,
and
so
the
refinement
of
who
gets
that
information
is
a
critical
component.
That
I,
don't
think,
has
been
addressed
completely.
Q
I
think
I
think
they
have
gained
valuable
insight
from
from
the
time
they
spent
and
with
this
late
hour,
you're
not
going
to
get
to
all
of
it.
But
they've
invested
a
lot
of
time
and
I
think
we
should
collectively
respect
that
investment
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention.
Is
budget.
We've
been
through
a
rather
bruising
budget
preparation
period.
Iii
appreciate
if
you're
gonna
want
to
do
something
better
and
different,
it's
gonna
cost
money.
Q
I
think
we
can
be
judicious
in
the
speed
at
which
we
go
forward
because
I
think
you
have
heard
from
the
police
chief
candidate
you've
interviewed
is
the
department's
not
broken
there.
There
have
they're
expressing
their
visions
about
what
come
next,
what
they
can
do
better
they're,
not
gonna,
have
to
go
back
and
fix
stuff
and-
and
so
I
think
that
you
have
the
luxury
of
time
to
evaluate
this.
Q
You
have
the
luxury
of
time
to
give
to
the
new
chief
to
allow
him
to
work
through
this
visit
with
the
committee
and
understand
the
issues
that
all
this
touches
upon
and
I
think
that
the
and,
if
I
can
say
about
the
mediation
just
quickly,
I
think
the
the
mediation
is
a
good
idea,
but
I
think
it
is
going
to
take
at
least
as
much
time
as
this
took
to
say.
You're
gonna
hire
somebody
and
get
this
hammered
out
in
90
days.
There
there
are
people
there
are
employees
with
legitimate
concerns
of
how
that
goes.
Q
I
have,
as
a
police
chief
I,
have
a
legitimate
concerns
that
the
Chairman
expressed
that
wait
a
minute.
If
you
guys
expect
me
to
impose
progressive
discipline
and
we
set
up
a
system
that
subtracts
those
events-
I'm
not
gonna,
get
to
where
you
want
me
to
go
or
my
or
the
next
chief
needs
to
go
with
an
individual
I
appreciate
the
courtesy
of
comments
and
I'm
certain
the
new
chief
of
police
will
work
diligently
to
bring
this
matter
forward
to
you.
Thank
you
again.
I.
K
I
know,
maybe
we
shall
just
like
come
over
and
watch
the
football
game
with
you
please
stop
by.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
a
really
good
I,
really
like
what
you
just
had
to
say
and
I'm,
hoping
that
the
minutes
can
reflect
that
we
can
take
this
out
of
the
minutes
to
distribute
you
have
that
written
down
you
were
well,
we
could
pull
them
out
of
the
minute.
Well,.
Q
K
No
I
I
think
that
would
be,
would
be
really
helpful.
The
other
one
other
comment
that
I
would
make
is
that
I
absolutely
agree
with
you
about
some
degree
of
expertise.
We've
seen
tonight,
one
of
the
the
conversations
we
had
it
Rules
Committee
was
about
a
board
on
which
there
is
some
expertise
is
lacking
and
it's
caused
us
problems,
so
I'm
I,
I,
understand
sort
of
the
wouldn't
it
be
nice
to
get
some
people
who
may
not
be
I,
don't
know
who
might
not
come
forward
necessarily
on
their
own
or
look
qualified,
but
I.
K
Think
that
causes
us
problems
in
the
end
and
I
think,
hopefully
that
there
will
be
enough
people
who
have
served
and
gone
through
the
process
and
who
you
know
going
through
the
process.
You
learn
a
lot
and
that
will
be
ready
and
willing
and
able
to
to
serve.
But
I
just
really
appreciate
what
you
had
to
say,
because
it's
really
AM
informative
to
us
as
a
committee
and
I
I,
listen
to
really
carefully
thanks.
C
C
Q
Well,
this
is,
this
is
all
the
men.
This
is
extremely
important
to
them
this.
This
society
is
significant
to
them
in
many
ways,
but
and
is
insignificant
in
far-reaching
ways,
I
mean
just
even
even
in
we
have
several
complex
investigations
ongoing
and
one
of
the
questions
our
federal
partners
ask
is
we
need
to
see
the
guys
LPS
record
and
insult?
That
is
a
huge
issue
that
that
impacts
on
their
abilities
for
assignment
and
impacts
on
their
ability
to
testify
in
federal
court.
So
this
is
a
big
deal.
Yeah.
C
This
is
a
big
deal,
then
I
appreciate
you
calling
that
that
out,
and
it
allows
me
to
give
it
to
the
committee
and
say
thank
you
very,
very
much
I've
had
an
opportunity
earlier
when
he
first
started
to
sit
in
on
a
few
of
your
meetings,
and
so
I
know
the
amount
of
attention
and
detail
to
the
work
and
keep
in
mind
the
time
that
you
all
started
this.
We
had
a
lot
going
on
in
the
city
with
the
young
man
that
was
stopped
on
the
bicycle,
with
the
kid
that
was
pulled
over
northwestern
student.
C
So,
along
with
this
and
the
other
committee
myself
and
alderman
fleming,
sits
on
alternatives
to
arrests.
I
think
there's
some
really
good
comments
in
your
a
report
and
one
of
the
things
I'm
gonna
push
for
is
there
for
the
chief,
the
new
chief
comes
on
board,
whether
it's
you
know,
six,
seven,
eight
months
of
getting
on
board
will
definitely
take
a
look
at
this
document
and
see
what
things
he
or
he
will
be
able
to
to
utilize.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
Thank
you.
F
I
just
have
a
couple
more
comments.
First
of
all,
I'd
refer
you
back
to
the
survey
report
that
was
in
our
may
18th
meeting
to
you
all
presentation
at
your
may.
18Th,
I
think,
was
the
18
May
meeting,
because
there's
more
detail
about
what
we
heard
from
the
community
via
that
vehicle
and
I
also
wanted
to
just
amplify
what
Matt,
what
maybe
define
what
Matt
meant
when
he
said
that
the
current
systems
being
underutilized
nobody's
looking
for
more
complaints.
F
The
fact
is
that
what
we've
heard
from
people
is
that
they
don't
make
complaints
based
on
their
lack
of
confidence
in
the
current
process.
So
if
and
that's
where
our
recommendations
are
based
on
to
try
and
restore
people's
confidence
that
their
complaints
are
being
taken
seriously
and
and
like
matt
said
there
aren't
any.
There
are
any
individuals
that
were
calling
out
here
had
really
good
engagement
with
members
of
the
police
force.
F
A
You
so
I've
been
my
last
thing
and
I
hear
everybody's
backing
up,
so
I
I
do
think
it's
aggressive
the
ninety
days.
I
appreciate
it,
but
we
are
government
and
we
are
not
fast
so
I
I
would
say
just
be
patient
with
us.
I
am
very
excited
about
a
lot
of
things
in
here.
I
placed
my
questions
and
concerns.
A
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
make
it
an
appointment
with
the
new
chief
I'm
happy
to
help
you
do
that
if
you
need
help
kind
of
get
some
more,
you
know
take
some
our
input,
maybe
flush
out
some
couple
things,
because
I
do
think
and
I
appreciate
that
you
said
about.
If
it's
not
broke,
don't
fix
it,
but
I
do
hear
those
same
concerns
when
people
say
I'm
not
going
to
go
because
it
doesn't
work
and
they
probably
have
no
scientific
proof
that
doesn't
work,
but
we
deal
with
the
public
and
we
deal
with
perception.
A
A
You
know:
20-some,
odd
people,
I
think
eight
police
officers-
or
maybe
we
didn't,
lay
them
off
I,
can't
remember
we
even
land
it,
but
when
we
talk
about
having
the
intake
process,
be
another
job
for
someone
else
hear
that
that's
gonna
be
a
hard.
So
for
me
and
probably
staff,
because
we
already
asking
staff
to
do
more
to
not
take
raises
so
I
think
we
need
to
just
maybe
work
with
opiates.
A
We
have
to
see
if
they
think
they
need
some
more
training
for
intake,
see
if
we
need
to
add
another
form
where
if
you
come
in-
and
you
know,
Jason
Gardner
says
you
know,
I
can
talk
to
Scott
for
you,
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
go
through
o-p-s
that
that's
something
that's
written
down
and
the
person
can
feel
confident
that
it
hasn't
gone
anywhere
so
anyway.
Those
are
my
brief.
A
So
maybe
we
can
get
you
on
like
a
spring
calendar
after
you
talk
with
the
new
chief
and
kind
of
come
back
with
any
revisions
you
have
and
we
can
get
a
better
timeline
of
as
we
can
get
things
implemented,
I'm
only
chair
for
one
more
month,
so
I
can't
give
you
a
definite
date,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
work
in
this
and
just
because
we
did
not
move
forward.
I
just
want
you
to
leave
and
feel
discouraged,
but
we're
not
fast
all
right.