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A
A
Right,
mary
and
macbeth
here
all
right
and
mayor
steve,
hagerty
here
so
we
do
have
we
do
have
quorum.
I
would
like
to
move
a
motion
per
governor
pritzker's
executive
order,
suspending
in-person
attendance
requirements
for
public
meetings,
thereby
allowing
public
meetings
such
as
the
liquor
control
board
to
meet
virtually.
A
All
in
favor
all
right,
so
all
three
board
members
have
passed
the
motion
that
we
can
meet
in
virtually.
So
thank
you,
everybody
for
being
here
next
up.
Item
number
three
on
our
agenda
is
going
to
be
approval
of
the
meeting
minutes,
and
this
is
from
the
september
2nd
2020
meeting
dick
or
marion.
Are
there
any
any
changes
or
concerns
you
have
about
those
minutes?
I.
C
A
B
C
A
All
right,
so
the
minutes
have
passed
on
a
3-0
vote,
we're
now
going
to
move
to
new
business.
We
have
three
items
on
the
agenda
today.
The
first
one
is
an
exciting
one.
We've
been
watching
it
get
built.
I
know
it
didn't
quite
go
the
way
that
that
the
owners
wanted
or
that
any
of
us
wanted
because
of
the
pandemic.
But
people
are
excited
about
double
clutch
brewing
company.
A
You
know
coming
coming
to
evanston
and
being
on
ashland
ave,
and
so
I'm
gonna
ask
if
the
the
owners
would
like
to.
If
you
don't
haven't
already
turned
on
your
video,
so
we
can
see
you
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
introduce
yourself.
So
we
can
record
you
for
the
minutes
and
then
just
talk
about
the
the
class
license
that
you're
requesting
of
the
city
so
welcome.
D
D
But
it's
also
much
more
clarity
and
things
like
that,
where
it's
it's
a
cleaner
beverage
and
and
we're
really
excited
about
it.
It's
gonna
be
a
bit
laborious
is
the
whole
construction
process
and
and
going
through
the
everything
during
the
pandemic
has
been,
but
we're
very
excited
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
actual
licensing
I
believe
mark.
What's
the
exact
designation
for
the
class
of
license
that
we
are
applying
for.
A
E
Sorry
about
that
so
for
class
j,
brew,
pubs,
onsite
liquor
is
permitted
from
11
a.m
to
1
a.m,
monday
through
thursday
11
a.m
through
2
a.m,
friday
through
saturday
and
then
11
a.m
through
1
a.m.
On
sunday
and
then
off-site
beer
sales
are
permitted.
10
a.m
through
10
p.m,
monday,
through
through
monday,
through
thursday
10
a.m,
through
11
p.m,
friday
through
saturday
and
11
a.m,
through
10
p.m.
On
sunday,.
A
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
for
that
brian.
So,
nick
just
so,
we
have
an
understanding
like
what
what's
your
sense
of
the
hours
that
you're
gonna
have
and
I'm
we
I
mean
we're
pretty
familiar
where
double
clutch
is
it's
sort
of
this
light
industrial
kind
of
area?
It's
not
a
residential
area,
a
big
church,
of
course
on
sundays
across
the
street.
But
what
are
your
tentative
plans
for
algebra
operation?
D
I
apologize.
We
were
planning
on
using
those
same
hours
that
are
allotted
by
the
the
that
class
of
license
and
for
the
weekends
we're
planning
on
doing
probably
about
a
10,
30,
brunch
11
o'clock
on
sunday,
obviously,
and
so
we're
gonna
be
doing
brunches
on
the
weekends
and
then
kitchen's
gonna
be
open
the
whole
time
and
truthfully.
I
don't
see
too
many
people
staying
out
too
late
because
of
many
of
the
other
brewpubs.
A
Yeah
yeah,
I
haven't
seen
a
fairly
quiet
city
in
the
evenings.
It
doesn't
go
late
into
the
mornings
and
stuff
like
that,
but
the
license
obviously
grants
you
11
to
2..
So
I
just
appreciate
you
giving
us
a
sense
remind
me
how
many
square
footage
square
feet.
Do
you
have
in
the
facility
and
do
you
have
a
sense
of
when
you're
hoping
you're
hoping
to
open
it,
and
I
know
again
enough
time
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
hopefully
we're
on
the
back
end
of
that
pandemic
and
going
to
come
out
of
it.
D
Correct
so
we
are
currently
we're.
Where
is,
I
believe,
it's
about
is
approximately
12
000
square
feet
for
the
whole
facility,
and
I
mean
I'd
say
the
kitchen
itself
is
taking
up
about
about
1200
square
feet
of
that
a
thousand
square
feet.
So
the
the
front
brew
pub
portion
is
about
2
000
square
feet.
I
believe
and
then
the
rest
is
the
back
facility
for
special
events,
the
actual
brew
house
and
the
tanks
so
and
then
in
inter,
for
what
was
the?
What
was
the
other
question?
I
forgot.
I
apologize.
D
I
I
we're
we're
planning
on
getting
our
final
inspections
in
about
two
weeks
and
in
terms
of
actually
brewing
the
biggest
issue
that
we
have
is
our
supplier.
One
of
the
biggest
problems
with
the
pandemic
was
actually
getting
our
tanks
in
in
in
in,
but
we
have
all
of
that
and
now
we're
just
waiting
for
you
know
the
final
five
percent,
which
unfortunately
is
the
motherboard
for
the
the
entire
control
panel
of
the
brewing
system.
D
So
I
mean
in
terms
of
we,
we
just
have
finishes
on
the
bar
themselves
and
a
little
bit
of
carpentry
and
then
just
the
final
stages
of
the
actual,
the
actual
brewhouse
we're
hoping
to
have
the
our
supplier
told
us.
We
should
have
that
within
a
week
or
so
and
then
we'd
like
to
start
working
on
brewing
and
things
like
that.
So
we're
hoping
within
two
months:
okay,
two
to
two
and
a
half
months.
A
D
D
A
Well,
it's
great
to
have
another
nice
event
space
here
in
evanston.
I
know
you've
all
invested
a
lot
of
money
into
it
and
alderman
rainey
is
with
us
and
there's
a
great
event
space.
That's
just
opening
up
on
her
and
in
her
part
of
the
at
the
city
over
in
howard
street,
so
very,
very
exciting
brian.
I'm
going
to
ask
you
you've
spent
more
time
than
anyone,
probably
with
the
application,
any
issues
that
you
saw
with
their
application.
E
No,
they,
the
evanston
police
department,
still
isn't
doing
background
checks
or
fingerprinting
at
this
time.
So
we're
proceeding
with
the
application,
because
you
know
it's
been
a
year
since
the
epd
has
been
able
to
do
that.
So
we
can
still
grant
them
a
license.
You
know
just
yeah,
I
guess
I
I
don't
know
if
the
technical
term
is,
but
I
know
we
can
still
grant
them
license
provisional
or
whatever.
E
Now
we've
asked
them
to
supplement
their
application
once
epd
gets
back
to
doing
fingerprinting
and
I
think
we're
still
waiting
on
the
certificate
of
liability
insurance,
but
that's
not
an
issue
we
can.
You
know
the
the
license
will
not
be
would
not
be
issued
until
that
certificate
of
liquor
liability
comes
in,
but.
A
E
E
B
A
This
is
just
something
that's
been
put
on
hold
because
of
the
pandemic.
Correct,
I
guess
correct
okay,
so
maybe
mark
knows
more
or
you
nick.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
I
like
the
fact
that
we've
always
you
know
that
this
is
part
of
the
process
that
we
fingerprint
and
you
know,
background
check
folks
because
it's
a
privilege
to
have
a
liquor
license.
D
D
D
Second,
you
know
you
know
companies
that
will
actually
do
it
for
them,
but
other
municipalities
have
a
lot
of
them,
have
have
done
the
same
thing
where
it's
everything's,
just
kind
of
on
a
freeze
in
in
the
same
manner.
So
it's
yeah
it's
it's
common
right
now,
just
because,
unfortunately,
you
know
what
we're
dealing
with
right
now.
So
all
right.
B
Miley
commoners
welcome
to
welcome
aboard
it's
been
a
long
time
hearing
about
double
clutch
for
quite
a
while
over
there
yeah
we're
familiar
with
with
the
neighborhood
and
I've
been
around
everything.
I
remember
fanny's
restaurant
there
on
the
corner
that
no
longer
was
there,
but
it's
an
old
established
neighborhood
and
we're
glad
you're
on
board.
I'm
looking
forward
to
having
a
couple
of
cold
ones
there
with
you.
C
D
A
All
right
see
seeing
none
nick,
you
guys
have
been
in
the
business
for
a
long
time.
Your
servers
are
basset
trained.
You
understand
all
of
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
It
is
a
privilege
right
to
have
a
liquor
license,
and
you
know
I
certainly
expect
as
the
liquor,
commissioner,
that
you
are
going
to
act
responsibly
in
terms
of
who
you're
serving.
Obviously
this
is
a
college
town.
A
We
do
have
young
people
that
live
here,
and
you
know
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
you're
abiding
by
all
of
our
city,
you
know
ordinances
and
rules
as
well
as
the
state
rules.
If
that
it
doesn't
happen,
then
you
know:
you'll
come
over
here
to
city
hall
and
we'll
have
a
very
intense
conversation
about
any
violation
and-
and
it
won't
be
looked
on.
Favorably.
D
A
A
A
Right
so
all
in
favor,
aye,
aye,
aye,
all
right,
so
nick
we're
gonna
go
ahead
then,
and
move
this
to
the
city
council
on
the
on
the
22nd
of
march,
and
if
you
would
like,
if
it's
neces,
if
it's
necessary
because
of
your
opening
and
all
that,
you
can
speak
to
your
older
woman
about
whether
she
would
put
it
have
it
on
the
agenda
for
introduction
and
action
the
same
evening.
If
it's
really
important
that
you
get
it
that
quick
or
otherwise
it
goes
for
introduction.
D
A
I
think
yeah,
I
think,
that's
fine
and
again,
if
it's
the
22nd,
we
are
obviously
having
local
elections.
The
new
city
council
will
be
seated
on
may
10th,
so
this
will
still
be
the
same
city
council.
You
know
if
we
move
this
to
the
april.
You
know
the
for
action
on
april,
8th
or
whenever
that
monday
is
perfect.
All
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
brian.
A
A
F
We
also
have
two
other
locations
in
evanston,
one
at
33,
33,
central
and,
I
believe
the
other
one's
at
101
asbury.
We
also
have
packaged
goods
license
there,
also
the
store.
Basically
there.
The
hours
are
7
00
a.m
to
10
p.m.
We
have
approximately
22
employees
there
we
have
a
store
manager
has
a
vast
amount
of
experience
and
in
addition,
we
have
two
ship
supervisors.
So
there's
always
somebody
there.
F
Basically,
what
our
stores
contain
is.
Typically,
they
have
four
cooler
doors
for
a
cold
beer
and
an
end
cap
for
a
warm
beer
and
an
aisle
with
wine
and
liquor,
and
the
aisle
is
typically
16
feet.
Long
and
72
feet.
High
and
everybody
is
basset
trained
will
be
nasa
trained
in
the
store
and
we
have
a
zero
tolerance
policy.
F
I
my
office
is
across
the
street
of
the
state
of
illinois
building
downtown
illinois,
and
I
can't
even
remember
when
I
was
in
there
for
the
liquor
control
commission
for
any
violations
and
if
anybody
does
of
the
violations,
they
would
be
gone
the
next
day.
So
we
take
it
very
seriously
and
entertain
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
E
Yeah,
similarly
to
double
clutch,
there
are
a
few
items
that
we're
waiting
on,
but
it's
not
a
big
deal
they're
aware
of
it
and
they'll
be
getting
it
to
us
it
once
if
and
when
they
receive
approval
for
the
liquor
license
just
waiting
for
a
certificate
of
liquor
liability
in
the
surety
bond.
But
that's
just
you
know
an
administrative
thing,
nothing,
nothing
substantive!
That's
problematic!.
F
We
can't,
but,
but
if
sometimes
especially
in
the
city,
you
know
they
they
don't
like
to
have
the
individual
small
bottles,
you
know
because
they
don't
want
people,
you
know
loitering
in
the
front
and
drinking
at
the
front
of
the
store,
so
we're
good.
With
that
I
mean,
if
you
didn't,
want
any
individual,
small
bottles,
single
bottles
or
even
single
bottles
of
beer.
I
mean
cans
of
beer.
That
would
be
okay.
Also,
whatever
rub
is
your
pleasure.
A
So
I
know
alderman
fisk
could
call
me
she
couldn't
be
here,
but
I
know
she
wanted
it
to
talk
to
me
further,
and
this
is
in
the
in
the
first
ward,
my
my
preference
would
be
to
hold
off
for
now
on
moving.
This
give
me
give
me
time
to
talk
to
alderman
fisk
about
this
license,
given
that
it's
in
her
award
and
then
rev
and
then
revisit
this
at
the
next
at
the
next
meeting.
F
A
So
that's
that's
how
I'd
like
to
to
proceed
on
this
there's
other
things
larry
just
going
on
that
I'll,
just
sort
of
share
with
you
right,
I
mean
we're
coming
we're
still
in
the
the
sort
of
the
back
end
of
the
pandemic.
Hopefully,
in
a
couple
months,
I'd
almost
like
to
put
this
off
for
a
couple
months
because
we're
coming
out
of
the
pandemic
we
are
going
to
develop.
I
know
the
city,
we
will
develop
sort
of
a
economic
revitalization
plan.
A
So
if
it
would
so,
my
preference
right
would
be
to
set
this
actually
probably
to
come
back
and
revisit
this
in
you
know
june,
when
you
know
I
feel
like
what
definitely
should
be,
hopefully,
at
the
back
end
of
the
pandemic,
we
should
start
to
see
things
you
know
pick
up.
They
can
have
the
proper
discussion
then,
and
and
and
move
forward
at
that
time.
A
That
would
be
at
the
at
the
liquor
board.
Well,
it
would
come
back
again
to
the
liquor
board
meeting
and
yeah
we'd
have
the
conversation.
We'd
have
a
more
thorough
conversation
at
that
point
and
again,
and
partly
I
want
to-
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
alderman
fisk,
who
couldn't
who
couldn't
be
here,
but
you
know
called
me
just
a
little
while
ago
on
this
item.
F
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right,
we'll
move
to
the
last
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
proposed
new
w-2
class
ordinance,
and
this
is
for
the
golf
course
so
canal
shores.
I
know
we've
got
alderman
ravel
here
canal
shores
is
in
her
ward
as
well
as
carl
lineburger.
I
see
here
and-
and
I
think
I
saw
there's
tom
mann-
I
guess
he's
off,
but
there
there
you
are
carl,
so
carl,
why
don't
you
go
ahead?
H
Sure
so
my
name
is
carl
lambert,
I'm
the
president
of
the
board
of
trustees
at
canal
shores,
and
we
are
very
grateful
that
evanston
created
a
class
of
liquor
license
for
us
last
year,
as
we
got
looking
into
that
and
we
started
to
develop
our
business
plan.
We
realized
that
we
needed
some
some
fine-tuning
for
it
to
actually
work
for
us
and
if
I
could
I'd
like
to
defer
to
tom
mann
on
the
particulars
of
that
he
is
our
resident
expert
on
that
subject.
I
Hi
hi
everybody.
First
of
all,
let
me
apologize
for
not
having
my
camera
on
it's
actually
on
the
fritz
been
on
the
fritz
for
a
few
weeks,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
sort
of
fix
it
yet,
but
you
won't
be
able
to
see
my
my
great
face
here
on
the
on
the
screen,
but
hopefully
my
voice
will
do
the
do
the
job
yeah.
I
So
I
just
introduced
myself,
I'm
one
of
the
volunteer
board
members
on
canal
shores
as
well,
and
I've
been
tasked
with
trying
to
move
the
liquor
license
forward.
Just
some
background
for
the
members
of
the
the
board
back
in
2019,
as
things
were
kind
of
coming
to
a
head
with
the
mwrd
we're
having
some
issues
with
them
and
the
city
was
in
the
middle
of
it.
The
mwd
allowed
the
city
of
evanston
to
have
alcohol
on
its
property.
I
It
was
done
specifically
at
the
time
to
allow
the
space
concerts
to
go
forward
over
on
the
first
and
second
hole
of
our
golf
course,
and
in
that
same
light
it
was
made
clear
to
us
that
that
would
also
be
okay
to
have
alcohol
on
the
golf
course
itself.
They
have
another
golf
course
in
there.
The
mwd
does
down
in
the
village
of
worth
where
that
golf
course
also
serves
alcohol
and
they
have
beverage
carts
and
all
kinds
of
stuff.
I
So
so
that
was
kind
of
the
impetus
in
the
fall
then
to
approach
brian
and
the
law
department
legal
department
to
try
to
tweak
some
of
the
language
to
make
it
effectively
worth
our
while
to
pursue
a
liquor
license
for
the
golf
course.
That's
the
general
background,
one
more
comment:
you'll
notice
that
we
are
proposing
creating
a
separate
w-2
license.
I
I
understand
that
there
may
be
some
incentive
for
the
of
the
board
in
the
city
of
evanston
to
try
to
consolidate
a
lot
of
these
liquor
liquor
licenses,
but
based
on
our
research,
we
have
a
number
of
cities
here,
which
I
can
name.
If
you
want,
it
does
appear
that
golf
courses
tend
to
warrant
their
own
liquor
license
for
a
number
of
reasons.
It's
the
area
that
it
covers.
I
It's
the
the
fact
that
oftentimes
there's
a
moving
vehicle
on
the
property
that
serves
food
and
beverage,
beverages
and
alcohol
to
people
and,
of
course,
there's
the
concern
that
people
are
going
to
sneak
stuff
on
to
the
property,
and
we
often
these
these
liquor
license
classes
allow
for
the
immediate
ejection
of
those
people
that
that
violate
those
rules.
So
so
that
was
why
we
kind
of
went
ahead
and
proposed
a
w-2
license.
A
E
Sure
so,
as
far
as
creating
an
entirely
new
class
for
the
golf
course,
I
think
you
know
like,
as
tom
mann
said
it,
I
guess
it
does
make
sense,
and
it
does
make
some
sense
to
have
a
separate
class
for
a
golf
course,
because
there
are.
There
are
unique
things
about
the
golf
course
and
it's
out
at
just
square
footage
and
the
fact
that
it's
outdoors,
but
I
guess
the
thing
that
I
would
bring
to
the
board's
attention-
is
that
you
know
any
decisions
on
creating
a
new
class.
E
You
know
because
I
believe
that
golf
course
would
probably
currently
be
under
the
current
class
w
license,
which
includes
current
license
holders
or
quad
indoor
sports
and
little
beans
cafe.
I
believe
so.
I
think
that
there
is
some
similarities
between
the
two
and
any
decisions
that
the
board
makes
has
to
take
into
consideration.
Any
equity
concerns
that
it
might
have
that
implicate
quad,
indoor
sports
and
little
beans
cafe
in
terms
of
what
the
actual
license
says,
as
I
think
I
mentioned
before.
E
A
H
H
A
E
A
E
Basically,
he's
indicated
that
having
a
fresh
food
setup
isn't
really
feasible
for
them
like
where
the
food
is
actually
prepared
on
site
or
not
on
site
prepared
at
the
time
for
at
the
on
at
the
time
right
in
front
of
the
customer.
Basically,
what
they
believe
he's
proposing
is
to
have
you
know,
use
the
facilities
to
pre-make
sandwiches
stuff
along
those
lines
that
can
be
wrapped
and
then
just
the
day
of
you
know,
made
or
served
to
the
customers.
E
F
E
So
class
so
basically
talks
about
paragraph
3
talks
about
the
basset
certification
requirements
and
just
the
on-site
consumption
requirements
of
the
license,
and
basically
that
says
that
the
licensee
will
be
liable
for
any
non-compliance
with
provisions
regarding
food
service,
and
I
don't
think
that's
particularly
controversial
provision
to
put
in
there
where
it
differs
from
the
class
w-2
license
or
I'm
sorry
where
it
differs
from
the
class.
W
license
is
class.
E
E
Most
licenses,
I
don't
think
or
the
class
w
license-
does
not
allow
for
this,
so
you
know.
Presumably
this
applies
to
cans
of
beer,
but
it
doesn't
really
specify
what
it's
applying
to
so
that's
you
know
something
that
I
think
the
board
should
take
note
of,
and
I
would
say
the
last
thing
the
court
the
board
should
take
note
of
is
that
the
proposed
hours
here
are
from
9
am
to
midnight
on
monday
through
saturday
and
10
a.m
to
midnight
on
sunday.
E
A
A
J
Yeah,
hello,
everybody.
What
we
did,
I
did
have
a
special
award
meeting
to
you
know
let
let
residents
in
the
ward,
as
well
as
particularly
adjacent
neighbors,
have
an
opportunity
to
hear
about
the
proposal
and
offer
any
comments.
I
heard
from
one
resident
who
couldn't
attend
the
meeting
that
you
know
they
were
firmly
opposed,
but
the
the
questions
and
comments
that
came
up
with
the
ward
meeting.
J
It
seemed
to
me
that
the
the
answers
from
tom
mann
were
very
reassuring
to
the
residents,
in
particular
the
fact
that
canal
shores
would
have
to
come
back
every
year
for
a
renewal.
It
would
be
a
one-year
license.
So
if,
because
there
was
concern
about
you
know,
are
we
going
to
see
you
know
more
litter?
Are
we
going
to
have
bad
behavior
on
the
golf
course
etc?
J
And
so
you
know
the
fact
that
it
would
just
be
a
a
one-year
license
at
a
time
I
think,
gave
some
reassurance
to
adjacent
neighbors,
that
that
there
be
oversight
and
controls,
and
I
guess
and
canal
shores
you
all
talked
about
putting
out
additional
trash
and
recycling
receptacles,
and
you
know
anticipating
what
some
kind
of
impact
might
be.
So
you
know
so
I'm
comfortable
with
our
with
our
going
ahead
with
trying
something
like
this.
J
What
I
do
when
I
looked
at
the
proposed
w-2
language
it
talks
about
it,
clarifies
that
liquor,
wine
and
beer
can
be
sold
and
consumed
on
the
premises,
and
the
naive
reader
of
that
would
assume.
Well
that
just
means
right
there
in
the
little
patio
near
the
pro
shop,
but
but
it
would
be
in
fact
the
whole
golf
course
is
the
premises.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
needs
to
be
more
obvious
in
the
in
the
the
way
the
language
works
or
not.
So
that
would
be.
A
And
I
think
that's
a
good
reason
to
me
at
least
for
why
I
think
a
w-2
license
makes
sense
to
create
a
license
that
you
know
specifically
for
golf
courses
granted
there's
only
one
golf
course
here,
but
we
can
at
least
clarify
that,
so
they
on
canal
shores,
understands
and
any
resident
that
looks
at
the
license
understands
how
about
dick
and
marion.
Do
you
have
any
questions
or
thoughts
on
this
issue?.
B
Well,
I
had
a
I've
since
I
read
read
about
it
in
the
early
briefings
on
it,
I'm
still
curious
as
to
why
we
have
to
start
drinking
at
nine
o'clock.
In
the
morning
I
mean
our
golf
is
different
than
anybody
else.
I
mean
good
god.
I
think
you
know
they're
done
with
their
first
round
by
nine
o'clock.
They
just
head
over
to
get
a
drink.
I
mean
come
on
yeah,
you
know
it
should
be.
I
think
it
should
be
a
lot
more
standardized
like
it
is
the
rest
of
you
know
either
10
or
11
o'clock.
B
In
the
morning
you
know
11
o'clock
at
most
places
brew
pubs
everything
else
at
11
o'clock.
You
know
that
would
be
one
concern
that
I
have
the
other
one
you
already
mentioned,
which
is
the
equity
of
the
pricing.
You
know
if
we're
gonna,
it
should
be
the
same
for
anything
with
a
w
license.
You
know
otherwise
we're
going
to
get
into
a
real
mess
of
dealing
with
with
the
quad
and
everybody
else
trying
to
reduce
their
licenses.
You
know,
well,
you
have
to.
B
A
H
Your
point's
well
taken
about
the
fee.
We
understand
that,
if
I
can
speak
to
mr
peach's
first
point
we're
just
trying
to
be
on
equal
footing
with
how
a
lot
of
other
golf
courses
operate,
and
if
you
take
a
look
at
like
friday
and
saturday
mornings,
the
number
of
golfers
who
come
in
and
who
will
purchase
beer
in
the
morning.
That's
not
me,
that's
not
my
thing,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
golfers
who
do
that,
and
that
is
an
important
part
of
making
this
work
financially.
H
For
us,
as
well
as
providing
that
amenity
for
the
golfers
and
again,
you
know
they're
not
drinking
to
excess,
and
we
certainly
have
responsibilities
in
that
regard,
but
they
will
get
beer.
You
know
at
that
time
of
the
morning
and
take
it
out
on
the
golf
course
because
they're
going
to
be
out
there,
for
you
know
three
four
hours,
so
it
is
something
that
other
golf
courses
do
so
we're
just
trying
to
get
on
equal
footing
with
them.
B
A
H
Village
of
worth
has
a
similar
concept
and
then,
when
we're
doing
our
research,
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
horses
you
know
in
glenview
and
other
places
they're
allowed
to
serve
alcohol.
You
know
in
the
morning
now,
first
golfers
might
come
in
at
seven
in
the
morning:
they're
not
serving
alcohol,
then,
but
they
can
serve
it.
You
know
a
little
later
in
the
morning
so
that
they
can
capture
that
segment
of
the
market
and
again
keep
in
mind
canal
shores.
We're
not
allowed
to
have
people
bring
in.
H
B
K
The
only
reason
why
I
feel
comfortable
speaking
is
because
of
little
beings
used
to
be
in
the
eighth
ward
and
the
sports
dome
is
in
the
eighth
ward,
and
so
I
do
see
an
equity
issue
here,
but
in
terms
of
the
the
hour
of
beginning
to
serve
beer
at
the
golf
course,
I
come
from
a
long
line
of
golfers
and
you
know.
Sometimes
I
don't
know
what
time
what
is
the
earliest
tee
off
at
canal
shores.
K
Yeah
7
a.m.
Seven,
so
you
have
golfers
who
first
of
all
they
get
up
at
six,
they
go.
They
start
at
seven.
So
by
nine
o'clock
or
ten
o'clock
I
mean
they've
been
up
for
a
long
time.
If
you
go
to
brunch
on
a
sunday
morning
I
mean
many
people
are
drinking
bloody
marys.
You
know
and
also
dick
to
your
comment,
it's
very
difficult
to
drown
on
the
golf
course,
but
drunken
boaters
are
the
cause
of
many
drownings.
I
If
I,
if
I
could
just
very
briefly
thank
thank
you,
alderman
rainey,
just
to
talk
about
why
we
had
asked
for
the
lower
fee.
Obviously
it
is
an
ask
we're
obviously
well
aware
of
the
equity
issues.
I
think
our
thinking
in
this
whole
thing
was.
We
are
not
a
private
organization
looking
for
private
profit,
but
rather
a
community
organization
looking
to
sort
of
enrich
the
community.
So
it
was
because
of
the
nature
of
our
organization
not
actually
trying
to
generate
a
lot
of
money
and
to
try
to
do
so.
I
It
basically
is
an
amenity,
not
necessarily
as
a
driving
force
of
our
profit
margin.
It's
really
more
of
an
amenity.
We
thought
well,
if
there's
any
way
to
sort
of
cut
us
some
slack.
Ultimately,
the
benefit
goes
back
to
the
community
and
not
into
the
private
coffers
of
an
individual.
So
that
was
our
thinking
just
because
we
aren't
really
a
for-profit
company,
we're
really
only
a
community
organization,
non-profit
community
organization.
Well,.
K
My
recollection
is
when
we
gave
the
sports
dome
a
liquor
license,
we
limited
the
number
of
drinks
people
could
have.
I
think
I
mean
I
didn't
look
this
up
before
this
meeting,
but
I
and
not
to
mention
the
struggle
both
entities
have
had
during
the
shutdown
and
I
I
would
really
encourage
the
board
to
consider
lowering
their
fees
as
opposed
to
raising
canal
shores
fees,
license
fees.
A
C
I
do,
and
I
don't
know
whether
you
all
want
to
hear
what
I
have
to
say.
I
just
it
bothers
me
number
one,
I'm
not
a
golfer,
I
I
I
it's
almost
a
privilege
thing.
It's
almost
going
into
that
privilege
that
well
golfers
don't
do
this
golf,
and
that
irritates
me
that
offends
me
on
a
lot
of
levels
when
you're
making
differentiations
between.
Oh
because
they
are
this,
it's
okay
for
them
to
start
having
alcohol
at
nine
in
the
morning.
It's
a
personal
thing,
but
that's
my
opinion
and
I'll
leave
it
like
that.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mary.
I
don't
think
you're
the
only
one
that
feels
that
way.
There
are
others
others
out
there
that
do
I.
I
guess
I
go
back
to
alderman
ravel's
point
that
this
is
renewable
every
year.
It's
a
control
mechanism.
If
we
see
people
abusing
if
we
see
trash
all
over
the
place,
anything
like
that
it
gives
the
aldermen
of
the
ward.
You
know
a
lot
a
lot
of
influence
to
tell
our
colleagues
like
or
the
mayor,
I'm
not
comfortable.
You
know
seeing
that
seeing
this
renewed.
A
So
I
think
that's
that's
positive.
It
is
a
unique
entity
different,
I
think,
than
the
others,
and
so
you
know,
having
a
separate
class
makes
sense
to
me,
brian's
ww2
class.
You
know
I
hear
the
point
about.
You
know
this
is
a
community
organization.
I
can
tell
you
that
there
are
other,
you
know,
nonprofit
organizations
that
have
liquor
licenses
and
all
all
of
that
there
would
be
sort
of
community
kind
of
places,
and
we
don't,
you
know,
create
a
separate
discount
for
them.
A
A
A
If
it
does
pass,
there's
going
to
be
money
that
comes
to
the
city
of
evanston,
I
have
talked
to
the
city
manager
and
shared
my
you
know,
thought
which
is
look
a
a
decent
portion
of
this
money.
If
it
comes
down
ought
to
be
focused
on
revitalizing
our
economy,
you
know
getting
our
businesses
back
up
and
running,
and
all
of
that-
and
you
know
one
of
those
things
would
be
for
the
council
at
that
time.
A
But
if
it
does,
you
know
that
just
gives
a
tool
to
our
council
a
financial
tool
for
how
do
we
best
put
that
together?
And
maybe
that's
you
know
for
the
year,
you
know
giving
some
kind
of
discount
on
our
liquor
licenses
or
on
our
restaurant
licenses
and
so
forth.
I
sort
of
feel
for
now.
We
shouldn't
necessarily
want
pro
to
any
particular
license
class.
A
I
think
it
should
be
more
of
a
macro
approach.
That's
taken
to
all
of
our
licenses.
If
the
council
decides
to
do
that.
So
this
was
just
a
discussion
item
for
today.
I
think
it
was
a
good
discussion.
My
sense
from
our
conversation
is
brian
for
you
to
work
with
tom
and
carl
draft
up
this
w-2
class
ordinance,
and
then
I
don't
know
if
it
has
to
come
to
the
liquor
commission
first
or
if
it
can
just
go
to
the
council.
A
The
first
thing
would
be:
we
have
to
create
the
the
class,
the
ordinance
for
the
class
and
then
we'd
put
canal
shores
forward
as
an
applicant
later
once
the
class
is
created-
and
I
presume
time
wise,
especially
again
as
I
think
people
are
starting
to,
even
though
not
enough
of
us
have
gotten
vaccines
so
starting
to
feel
optimistic
that
good
things
are
happening.
On
the
vaccine
front,
we
could
see
a
summer
where
a
lot
of
people
are
outside.
They
want
to.
You,
know
golf
and
play
sports,
so
we
want
to
move
quickly.
E
Yes,
you
mayor
hagerty,
this
actually
is-
has
been
drafted
as
an
as
an
ordinance
okay.
So
if
you
know,
if
you
want
me
to
continue
working
with
the
canal
shores
canal
shores,
folks
on
this
more
than
happy
to
do
it,
but
what
had
been
presented
for
on
the
agenda
today
was
kind
of
envisioned
to
be
close
to
a
final
product.
A
H
I
Yeah,
I
think
that
was
kind
of
our
hope.
I
understand
one
of
the
things
that
I
should
address
too
and
brian
you
you,
you
talked
about
the
the
paragraph,
one
being
the
license:
the
the
food
and
the
sandwiches
and
stuff
one
of
the
things
board
members
should
know
is:
we
are
not
planning
and
alderman.
Ravel
knows
this.
I
We
are
not
planning
on
having
a
beverage
cart,
because
that
is
a
very
typical
sort
of
amenity
that
that
a
lot
of
golf
courses
have
where
there's
a
court-
cart
that
goes
out.
It's
a
tripped
out
sort
of
golf
cart
that
goes
around
and
serves
drinks
and
food
on
the
golf
course.
We
had
no
intention
of
really
doing
that
this
year,
it's
just
not
in
our
operating
budget,
because
there
is
some
investment
involved,
but
that
was
ultimately
also
kind
of
what
we
wanted
to
add
in
at
some
point.
I
E
And
mayor
you
know,
the
the
board
is
free
to
make
motions
to
amend
the
ordinance
as
it's
been
presented
to
you
on
the
agendas
you
know,
because
it's
currently
written
as
a
thousand
dollars
for
the
fee.
You
you
know,
for
more
than
free
to
make
a
motion
to
amend
that
to
a
different
cost.
The
hours
of
operation
are
also
subject
to
that's.
Any
portion
of
it
is
subject
to
an
amendment.
A
A
I'm
personally,
I'm
not
gonna
move
a
motion
to
change
that,
I'm
okay
with
trying
it
for
a
year
and
again,
you
know,
let's
see
how
it
goes
for
the
canal
shores.
Let's
see
how
it
goes
for
the
aldermen
of
the
ward
and
and
the
neighbors,
and
we
can
revisit
if
we
have
to
renew
and
there
were
issues
and
again.
I
believe
it
is
consistent,
as
as
you
guys
have
cited
other
research
with
other
golf
courses,
so
that
the
hours
make
sense
to
me,
given
that
the
industry.
A
A
Yeah,
I
don't
think
so,
although
I
know
we've
had
discussions
here
before
about
smaller
bottles
of
wine
and
and
stuff
like
that.
So
I
guess
I
just
turned
to
tom
or
carl
to
make
sure
we
make
that
change
just
to
clarify
and
make
sure
it's
clear
that
of
course,
you're
not
selling
bottles
of
liquor
or
bottles
of
wine.
A
H
I
A
Good
so
brian,
I
ca,
I
consider
this.
I
don't
know
if
there's
such
a
thing
as
sort
of
an
immaterial,
a
relatively
immaterial
type
of
change.
I
don't
know
if
it
means
you
know
the
board.
So
I'm,
okay,
again
you
canal
shores,
just
you
know
finalizing
these
things.
We've
taken
care
of
that
you
know
fee
on
it
and
and
then
we
move.
Let's
move
this
forward
to
the
council
for
march
22nd,
okay,
marion.
A
A
Really
duly
noted,
okay,
and
so
I
just
want
to
think
timeline,
then
is
there
any
way
we
could
move
this
to
the
council
for
this
monday
for
the
eighth,
because
again
it's
an
ordinance.
It
will
have
to
have
two
readings,
I
believe
and
then
and
then
they're
going
to
have
to
come
with
a
lice.
You
know
the
application
for
a
license
and
again
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
moving
quick
enough
to
help
canal
shores
for
this
season.
A
E
A
B
A
J
Well,
I
just
have
a
question
in
terms
of
kind
of
expediting:
this
could
could
canal
shores
come
to
the
liquor
board,
with
its
proposed
license
application,
while
the
amendment
itself
is
still
pending,
so,
for
example,
so
if,
on
the
22nd
of
march,
it's
inter
the
amendment's
introduced,
it's
approved
the
first
meeting
in
april,
but
the
license
is
already
moving
through
the
process
as
well.
I'm
just
wondering
how
that
parties
does.
Can
they
not
apply
for
the
license
until
we've
approved
the
issue.
G
E
Until
it
does,
can
they
apply
for
a
license
that
doesn't
exist
yet
you
know,
I
don't
think
technically
that
they
can.
I
mean
I
can
work
with
them
so
that
they
can
accumulate
all
of
the
paperwork
and
you
know
like
they're,
moving
towards
an
application,
but
I
guess
a
formal
submission
of
their
application
wouldn't
be
until
the
city
council
had
approved
the
new
class
wb2
license,
but
even
even
then
you
know
that
would
be
early
april.
E
I
don't
know
that
we
have
another
date
for
a
liquor
review
board
meeting.
You
know
set
up
anytime
soon.
They
seem
to
happen
every
couple
of
months,
but
if
the
board
wanted
to
meet
sometime
in
april
to
review,
then
you
know
we
could
make
that
happen
and
then
move
to
the
city
council
from
there.
So
we
can
definitely
get
the
process
started,
but
like
factual,
formal
submission
application.
Everything
like
that,
I
don't
think
would
happen
until
a
wt
license
is
created.
K
A
Yeah,
okay,
all
right.
Well,
that
was
a
good
discussion,
thank
you,
everybody
and,
and
carl
and
tom.
Thank
you
for
all
that
you
are
doing
with
canal
shores.
It's!
I
hope
you
know
it's
very,
very
important
to
you,
know
the
city
council
to
so
many
of
our
residents,
to
have
that.
You
know
golf
facility
here
in
evanston,
and
you
know
the
whole
art
display
that
you
did
you've
got
good
events
going
on
in
non-golf
season
and
all
that
all
that
stuff
and
the
golf
course
is
looking
great.