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B
A
B
C
We
have
a
quorum.
I
call
this
public
hearing
for
the
proposed
dempster
dodge
tax
increment
finance
district,
to
order
the
proposed
redevelopment
plan
and
project
to
be
presented
by
economic
development
staff
and
our
consultants,
kane
mckenna
defines
a
plan
to
assist
a
strategically
important
area
of
our
city
in
overcoming
a
number
of
redevelopment
barriers.
C
The
proposed
dempster
dodge
tiff
district
includes
the
evanston
plaza
shopping
center
at
the
southwest
corner
of
dempster
and
dodge
the
parcel
is
currently
owned
by
bonnie
management
and
whi
real
estate
partners.
The
purpose
of
this
public
hearing
is
to
hear
from
any
interested
person
or
affected
taxing
districts.
C
Regarding
the
proposed
plan,
the
designation
of
the
tif
district
and
the
adoption
of
tiff
financing.
The
city
council
shall
hear
all
comments,
protests
and
objections
at
the
hearing.
Any
interested
person
or
affected
taxing
district
may
file,
written
objections
and
or
be
heard
orally,
with
respect
to
any
issues
embodied
in
the
hearing
notice.
C
D
Pursuant
to
the
tif
act,
we
sent
out
certified
mailing
notices
to
all
the
taxing
districts
of
record,
as
well
as
the
state
of
illinois
on
march
27
of
2012
residential
addresses
within
750
feet
of
the
tif
district
were
also
sent
notices,
regular,
regular
mail,
identifying
the
date
of
this
hearing,
as
well
as
the
availability
of
information
at
the
city
clerk's
office,
a
joint
review
board
meeting
with
the
affected
taxing
districts.
I
was
held
on
april
12,
2012.
D
noticed
by
certified
mail
to
the
taxpayer
of
record.
In
this
case,
there
was
only
one
went
out
on
april
23rd
and
lastly,
there
were
two
newspaper
notices
on
april
19th
and
april
26th,
again
setting
out
the
time
in
place
of
the
public
hearing
as
well
as
what
will
be
covered
at
the
hearing.
So
the
city
has
conformed
to
all
the
required
notices
pursuant
to
the
tiff
act.
E
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
The
joint
review
board
met
april
12
2012
at
3
pm
at
the
civic
center
board.
Members
in
attendance
were
me:
alderman
mark
tendum
city
representing
the
city
of
evanston,
william
stafford,
representing
evanson
township
high
school
district
202,
mary
brown,
evanson
skokie
elementary
school
district
65
and
michael
sutton,
a
member
at
large
I
was
nominated
as
chair,
michael
sutton
was
nominated
as
public
member
kane
mckenna,
an
economic
development
staff
presented
the
plan.
An
advisory
recommendation
recommendation
to
the
city
council
to
approve
the
plan
was
appear,
was
approved
unanimously.
Four
to
one.
C
C
F
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
I'm
paul
zalmazak
with
the
economic
development
division.
F
F
There's
been
a
national
restructuring
of
retail,
the
the
consolidations,
the
downsizing
there's
been
bankruptcies
and
that
particular
centers
have
experienced.
All
of
those
and,
frankly,
there's
been
some
local
competitive
pressures.
We
have
some
good
shopping,
centers,
howard,
hartree,
main
street
commons,
downtown
evanston
and
then
outside
we've
got
lincoln
wood,
town
center
and
old
orchard.
Those
are
all
kind
of
that's
the
retail
landscape
that
that
provides
a
kind
of
a
great
challenge
for
evanston,
plaza.
F
Just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
proposed
boundary.
This
is
a
single
parcel,
tiff
dempster
on
the
north,
the
back
side
of
the
shopping
center
on
the
south
and
dodge
the
public,
the
public
rightward
dodge
to
the
east
and
this
kind
of
elongated
piece
that
is
actually
an
alley
that
is
privately
owned.
That
goes
from
dumpster
to
green
leaf.
F
And
I
wanted
to
put
it
in
the
context
of
the
existing
the
the
west
evanston
tiff,
that's
the
the
blue
shade.
So
you
can
see
that
the
west
edison
tif
kind
of
surrounds
this
parcel,
and-
and
why
is
that?
F
We've
created
this
standalone
tif
district
really
in
in
leaving
west
evanston,
frankly
out
of
it,
because
back
in
2005
and
2007
when
the
when
the
west
side
incentive
was
created
and
when
it
was
amended,
the
assessed
value,
the
assessed
valuation
of
evanston
plaza
was
actually
a
little
too
high.
The
the
real
estate
cycle,
hadn't
taken
or
the
downturn
hadn't
taken
place,
their
their
vacancy
rates
were
relatively
low
and
our
consultants
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
F
So,
at
the
time
the
assessed
valuation
was
a
little
too
high
to
have
any
kind
of
advantage
from
implementing
a
tif.
But
frankly
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
I
mean
these
have
distinct
goals.
I
mean
the
west
evanston
tiff.
We
want
to
leave
that
as
a
standalone
to
kind
of
protect
what
what's
happening
there.
F
Well,
the
tiff
has
a
23
year,
life
span.
We
we're
looking
at
the
immediate
short
term
goals
of
the
tiff
and
the
consultants
are
going
to
outline
and
you've
read
in
your
packet.
There's
a
20
million
budget
associated
with
it.
That's
roughly
the
amount
that
would
be
collected
over
23
years.
That's
not
an
annual
collection,
that's
the
cumulative
total
over
23
years.
F
F
F
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
redeveloping
revitalizing
the
neighborhood
shopping
center
and
increase
sales
tax
revenues,
and
then,
in
the
long
term,
we
can
think
differently
about
how
we
use
the
site
retail
changes
very
quickly.
We've
seen
that
at
this
particular
shopping
center,
a
number
of
times
over
the
last
decade
or
so
so
how
do
we
prepare
for
that
change
and
one
way
we
do
that?
F
F
I'd
like
to
invite
nick
reifer
k
mckenna
to
come
up
and
present
the
details.
I
just
want
to
point
out
my
if
I
change
the
slide.
My
contact
information
as
I've
said
at
the
at
the
community
meetings
and
award
meetings,
I'm
available
to
take
any
questions
you
have.
This
is
an
appeal
to
the
community.
Any
ideas
you
have
I'm
available,
my
number
and
my
email
address
are
posted.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
council
tonight,
I'm
just
going
to
focus
really
on
one
question,
and
that
is
how
does
the
area
qualify
under
the
tiff
act
as
a
blighted,
blighted,
improved
area?
I
just
want
to
preface
that
by
saying
the
under
the
act,
blight
is
a
very
specific
meaning.
It's
not
the
common
usage
that
you
might
have
in
an
everyday
conversation.
G
G
So
these
are
the
factors
right
here:
13
factors
and
cain
mckenna
reviewed
this
site.
We
walked
through
the
you
know:
the
shopping
center,
we've
analyzed
the
13
factors.
What
we
came
down
with
was
that
there
were
six
factors
present.
You
need
five
under
the
tiff
act
to
qualify
it
as
blighted
improved
the
first
one,
and
perhaps
the
most
important
is
obsolescence
and
that's
a
standalone
factor,
but
it
sort
of
summarizes
some
of
the
other
factors,
including
the
very
last
one
lagging
eav.
G
Those
two
are
very
closely
connected.
Well,
we've
had
a
situation
where
the
eav
over
a
five
to
six
year
period,
has
lagged
behind
the
city
aav.
In
fact,
relative
to
the
starting
point
is
below
what
it
below
what
it
was
in
2006..
G
G
G
G
In
addition
to
some
of
those
factors,
we
have
some
other
tiff
act,
factors
such
as
deleterious
layout,
which
is
speaks
to
some
of
the
land,
use,
coordination,
problems
and
environmental
cleanup
environmental
cleanup
speaks
to
the
fact
that
there
was
at
some
point
in
the
last
30
or
40
years.
Some
environmental
contamination
costs
were
incurred
under
the
tif
act,
yet
to
demonstrate
that
costs
were
incurred
to
remediate,
which
they
did.
They
placed
an
engineered
barrier
over
that
area,
so
it
meets
that
criterion
under
the
act.
Could.
G
H
G
H
G
I'll
start
and
then
bob
might
chime
in,
but
basically
some
of
the
classic
problems
deal
with
the
the
juxtaposition
of
the
uses
inside
the
tiff
relative
to
other
non-uh
residential
uses.
You
know
so
a
lot
of
times
it.
D
From
barbara
schlicky
from
kane
mckenna
from
the
standpoint
of
this
site
in
terms
of
internal
circulation,
there's
been
in
terms
of
our
review
of
the
site,
as
well
as
discussions
with
the
owners,
two
things
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
buildings
and
the
depth,
as
it
relates
to
replacement
users
and
the
way
the
center
was
originally
designed
in
terms
of
some
of
the
bigger
boxes.
This
center
itself
was
more
of
a
function
of
having
not
only
a
couple
large
anchors,
but
also
some
medium-sized
boxes,
in
terms
of
where
their
layouts
were.
D
Part
of
the
problem
relates
to
the
layout
in
terms
of
making
the
the
spaces
smaller
or
more
compressed
and
basically
having
a
lot
of
dead
space
in
in
terms
of
either
the
rear
or
sides
of
the
buildings
access
points
again,
as
as
it
relates
to
the
way
the
center
was
originally
designed
for
certain
users,
as
you
either
make
smaller
spaces
issues,
as
as
it
relates
to
parking,
availability
and
entrances,
and
then,
lastly,
in
terms
of
some
of
the
circulation,
maybe
towards
some
of
the
back
in
terms
of
uses
related
to
either
potentially
service,
as
well
as
retail
and
maybe
again
splitting
some
of
the
spaces
and
having
access
for
those.
D
So
I
mean
from
an
economic
standpoint
really
when
we
looked
at
that
there
were
some
additional
costs
associated
with
some
either
reconfiguration
or
retrofitting.
That
would
be
part
of
this
factor.
H
Okay,
I'm
sorry!
I
just
need
to
follow,
because
I
am
over
there
kind
of
regularly
I
having
issues
with
the
the
parking
and,
if
you're,
going
to
make
this
the
buildings
smaller
the
individual
tenant
spaces.
I
I
can
understand
that,
but
as
far
as
really
the
egress
and
the
parking
there's
really
not
much,
you
would
change
there's
a
lot
of
already
curb
cuts,
there's
plenty
of
parking
for
as
many
tenants
you
could
have.
So
I
I'm
just
a
little
suspect
about
this
particular
qualification
factor.
H
When
really
the
only
thing
that's
inadequate
is
the
actual
building
itself,
as
far
as
being
able
to
make
the
spaces
smaller
you're,
really
not
going
to
change
anything
else
with
the
parking
or
the
delivery
of
of
materials.
So
that's
what
I'm
asking,
because
what
you're
saying
is.
It
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
on
the
ingress
and
egress
and
the
parking,
because
there's
plenty
of
parking
there,
but.
D
I
think-
and
I
agree
with
you
in
terms
of
the
the
parking
I
think
it
had
to
do
when
we
were
looking
at
some
of
the
ideas
for
reuse,
perhaps
especially
in
some
of
the
central
spots
where
that
frank's
nursery
was,
there
were
some
issues
as
it
related
to
either
access
from
the
front,
as
opposed
maybe
to
the
rear,
as
well
as
some
issues
as
related
to
loading
or
unloading
for
some
of
the
uses
that
they
were
talking
about.
D
So
from
the
standpoint
of
maybe
overall
parking
field.
Probably
overall
parking
field
is
fine
from
the
access
or
egress
in
terms
of
the
two
or
three
curb
cuts
that
come
in
there
again.
You're
right,
there's,
probably
not
much.
That
could
be
done,
but
it
was
more
as
it
related,
I
think,
to
some
of
the
internal
circulation
for
some
of
the
users
again,
and
part
of
that
is
contingent,
depending
on
the
folks
that
they're
going
to
be
ultimately
talking
to
and
the
kind
of
lease
arrangements
that
could
be
negotiated.
I
Well,
bob,
given
the
configuration
of
the
stores
in
the
primary
strip,
the
dominic
strip
and
then
the
where
city
trends
is
or
whatever
that
store
is.
I
I
I
There
was
a
toys,
r
us
believe
it
or
not
to
at
the
outset,
so
we're
left
with
the
remnants
of
those
vacancies.
I
mean,
that's
that's
what
happened.
D
And
and
again
in
terms
of,
I
think
nick
mentioned
as
well
as
paul,
you
know
kind
of
a
coincidence
as
it
related
to
the
distressed
market
conditions.
We've
all
experienced,
plus
some
of
the
special
use
original
design
features
of
the
center
they
kind
of
coalesced.
In
order
to
make
it
a
lot
more
difficult
to
to
have
economical
leasing
of
the
site.
I
And
I
was
there
one
day
with
alderman
braithwaite
with
the
potential
user
who
stood
right
in
that
huge
parking
lot
and
said.
Well,
you
know
he
indicated
that
he
would
really
like
to
be
there,
but
he
would
have
to
tear
this
down
and
he
pointed
to
a
chunk
of
space
and
said
this
would
have
to
be
torn
down,
because
I
have
to
build
my
own
custom.
D
And-
and
I
think
that's
part
of
you
know-
you
know
the
issue
is
it
relates
to
the
importance
of
tiff
potentially
for
the
site,
because
in
terms
of
turning
it
around,
it's
going
to
really
be
a
question
in
terms
of
addressing
the
vacancy
are
the
types
of
users.
D
You
know
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
attract
to
the
site
that
the
community
will
use
users
that
will
be
successful
and
be
able
to
pay
rents
that
allow
for
the
center
to
be
properly
maintained
over
time.
So
it's
really
going
to
tie
into
the
kinds
of
uses
the
kinds
of
users,
ultimately
that
you're
going
to
want
to
be
able
to
attract
there
that
are
not
only
from
a
market
standpoint
going
to
occupy
it,
but
also
makes
sense
in
terms
of
long-term
viability
for
that
site.
C
Alderman
wilson
has
a
question,
then
I
think
we
should
hold
the
rest
of
the
questions
until
after
kane
mckenna's
finished.
J
D
The
rope
I
mean
I
mean
the
the
uses
that
they're
talking
to
generally
are
primarily
retail,
but
there's
also
some
service
users,
given
the
fact
that
letters
of
intent,
at
least
at
the
last
go-around
that
we
had
with
them,
have
not
been
signed.
There
are
some
issues
as
it
relates
to
confidentiality
at
this
time
right
now,
but
most
of
the
uses
that
they've
been
talking
to
have
been
a
combination
of
retail,
with
some
service.
F
Alderman
scott
inbind
is
a
representative
we've
been
dealing
closely
with
and,
for
example,
he's
going
to
the
icsc
convention.
I
think
it's
next
week
or
starting
this
weekend,
so
he's
pursuing
tenants
that
way
and
again
it
is
as
as
bobbin
mentioned,
there's
he's
pursuing
some
retail
he's,
also
considering
some
additional
options
of
kind
of
service
and
other
type
use.
So
we're
we're
really.
We
haven't
even
started
the
redevelop
or
renegotiation
process
because
we
have
to
have
this
thing
designated
before.
We
start
that,
but
we
do
remain
in
close
contact
with
them.
G
Just
a
couple
more
slides,
I
think
I
touched
on
that
inadequate
utilities,
the
engineer
that
the
city
uses
assisted
us
in
making
a
finding
of
inadequate
utilities,
and
this
is
not
uncommon,
where
you
have
a
lot
of
materials
used
in
the
underground
pipe
system
or
water
main
system
such
as
cast
iron
pipes
that
are
prone
to
outages.
G
G
If
you
have
it
lagging
relative
to
the
city
or
relative
to
cpi,
you
make
that
finding,
and
hopefully
you
can
make
that
slide
out,
but
you
see
starting
in
2005
the
base
year.
You
start
at
a
high
point
of
13
million.
It
did
climb
a
little
bit
in
08
and
then
it
dropped
severely
and
that
kind
of
coincides
with
the
assessor
capturing
the
market
trends
and
it
dropped
drastically
for
that
one
parcel.
G
C
H
I'm,
I
guess,
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
who,
if
I'm
asking
this
to
paul
or
to
kane
mckenna
but
the
inadequate
utilities.
I
have
a
question
about
that
as
well,
so
when
the
shopping
center
was
built,
however,
long
ago
now,
15
15
years
ago,
so
not
not
we're
not
talking
a
long
period
of
time.
So
when
the
shopping
center
was
built,
I'm
assuming
that
their
new
utilities
were
put
in
as
part
of
the
shopping
center
and
the
shopping
center
is
surrounded
by
a
tiff
already.
That
could
be
used
for
replacing
obsolete
utilities.
H
So
my
question
is:
why
are
we
creating
a
tiff,
we're
saying
inadequate
utilities,
if
I
would
assume
new
utilities
were
put
in
when
the
shopping
center
was
built.
D
H
H
D
H
The
development,
that's
that
you're
asking
to
be
tiffed,
has
new
pipes
and
utilities
when
the
center
was
created.
So
do
you
understand
what
I'm
asking?
Why?
Because
you're
you're,
basically
double
dipping
on
the
the
element
of
a
tiff,
because
you,
when
we
recreated
the
west
evanston
tiff,
you
said
utilities
are
bad,
so
we
put
those
in
that
tiff
correct.
D
Yeah
and
we'll
double
check
on
that,
but
as
to
the
inadequate
utilities,
I'd
have
to
double
check
to
see
if
that
was
in
the
west,
evanston
tiff
designation
report
and
again,
if,
if,
if
it
were
to
be
again
each
area
kind
of
stands
on
their
own,
they
do
have
some
interconnection
as
it
relates.
They
both
feed
off
the
same
system,
but
it's
neat
well,
in
our
opinion,
at
least
it's
not
like
double
dipping.
D
H
D
What
we're
really
looking
at
is
kind
of
a
bigger
picture
thing.
What
the
connection
is
to
the
utilities
of
which
the
center
feeds
into
right.
F
Alderman
I'm
going
to
try
to
reset
kind
of
okay,
and
I
understand
the
question.
The
first
point
of
clarification
is:
if
because,
if
we
could
hit
the
lights,
really
quick,
you
know
yes,
west
evanston
has
you
know
it
has
its
own
boundary
and
it
has
its
own
utilities
and
if
you
notice,
dodge
avenue
kind
of
south
of
dempster
north
of
greenleaf
is
also
the
public.
Right-Of-Way
aspect
is
in
the
proposed
evanston
plaza
or
the
dempster
dodge
tiff.
F
F
G
Okay,
thanks
paul,
I
I
did
find
the
the
letter
we
received.
Are
the
analysis
from
the
engineer
specifically
there's
a
700
feet,
area
of
sewer
that
runs
from
dodge
to
the
north
down
to
crane
and
it
runs
along
dodge
from
again
denser
to
crane.
So
that's
the
key
area,
at
least
according
to
the
engineer
that
was
inadequate,
and
I
would
you
know
also
it
doesn't
really
double
dip
in
terms
of
the
other
surrounding
tif
districts,
which
are
further
north
and
and.
H
K
And
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council
again,
this
is
a
a
public
hearing
to
have
testimony
provided
as
we
come
back
for
the
final
action.
We'll
make
sure
that
additional
information
is
provided
on
this
point,
including
the
memorandum
from
the
consultant.
So
when
the
council's
asked
to
take
action,
that'll
be
before
you.
L
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
My
question
is
is
once
this
tif
is
in
place.
What
is
the
incentive
for
the
owner
of
this
primary
parcel
to
step
up
rather
than
step
away
from
helping
us
with
the
redevelopment
efforts.
D
I
think,
from
a
standpoint
of
the
city,
in
addition
to
your
normal
powers,
relating
to
both
zoning
and
other
entitlements
for
land
uses,
what
the
tif
will
give.
You
is
the
power
of
the
purse
in
terms
of
the
utilization
of
monies
that
are
generated
potentially
generated
by
increases
in
value
over
the
base.
D
Those
dollars
are
not
only
controlled
by
the
city,
but
you're
required
to
spend
those
dollars
within
the
envelope
of
the
boundaries
of
that
area.
So
from
the
standpoint
of
utilization
or
negotiations
with
the
owner,
I
think
you
now
have
an
additional
tool.
You
have
the
ability
to
maybe
press
a
little
harder
on
certain
items.
Paul
and
nick
both
mentioned
you
know,
kind
of
uses
or
users
that
the
city
might
want
to
see
there.
D
You
know
not
only
for
the
community,
but
you
know
overall,
long-term
viability
that
intersection
the
tiff
in
our
opinion,
gives
you
the
ability
to
add
on
to
what
you
normally
have
in
terms
of
your
planning
and
entitlement
in
terms
of
actual
incentive
dollars
to
force
the
issue
a
little
more
strongly.
L
D
Well
from
the
city
itself,
if
we
start
from
more
of
the
micro
level,
you
know
howard
hartree
tiff,
basically
the
shopping
center,
that's
a
a
single
use,
tif
that
the
city
has
considered
over
the
years.
The
southwest
tiffer,
though
a
little
bigger
had
maybe
four
or
five
different
uses.
D
There
were
part
of
the
southwest
tiff,
I
mean
some
of
your
other
tif
districts,
downtown
2,
west
evanston,
howard
ridge,
are
larger,
multiple
uses
and
in
our,
if
we
go
more
to
a
macro
level,
I'd
say
about
40
percent
of
the
tips
that
our
company
works
on
are
related
to
single
type
uses.
And
again
you
know
it's
part
of
the
issue
of
what
works
I
mean
in
terms
of
policy.
What's
an
important
area
for
the
municipality?
D
How
tightly
do
you
want
to
focus?
One
thing
as
it
relates
to
the
single
use
above
the
multi-use
districts
is
your
focus
is
a
lot
more
concentrated.
You've
got
one
property
or
one
set
of
issues
to
work
with,
as
it
relates
to,
if
you
could
be
not
only
more
focused
but
more
surgical,
as
it
relates
to
how
you're
going
to
use
the
money.
L
And
if
I
may,
madame
just
one
last
question,
the
the
projected
kind
of
fund
for
this
tif
is
20
million
dollars
over
23
years,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
it's
a
20
million
dollar
blank
check.
L
Shopping
center,
we
are
not
required
to
make
a
20
million
dollar
investment
to
realize
our
short-term
goals
here
or
even
our
longer
term
goals.
Here
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
this
tiff's
life
will
reach
23
years
or
that
our
expenditures
here
will
reach
20
million
dollars.
It's
not
a
blank
check.
D
No,
it
is
not
that's
more
of
a
statutory
requirement.
The
tif
act
requires
the
city
as
part
of
its
plan,
not
only
to
identify
the
geographic
boundaries
which
you've
done
the
types
of
land
uses,
but
also
to
give
the
community,
as
well
as
the
taxing
districts.
Some
idea
of
what
the
maximum
exposure
might
be
over
the
term
of
the
tif
in
terms
of
items
that
the
city
might
spend
their
tiff
increment
on
any
amounts
that
are
to
be
spent
would
have
to
be
authorized
by
the
city
council.
D
You
know
either
on
a
pay-as-you-go
basis
or
as
it
relates
to
either
development
or
public
improvements
or
other
infrastructure
needs
that
you
may
have
those
expenditures
all
have
to
be
approved
by
the
city
council
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
D
In
the
event
that
you
are
not
able
to
identify
expenditures
or
not
have
obligations
to
which
to
put
those
monies
to
use.
You
are
required,
then,
to
declare
it
as
surplus
and
return
those
monies
back
to
the
annual
taxing
districts.
You
have
an
annual
report
which
you
comply
with,
and
the
taxing
districts
in
the
city
are
required
to
come
into
joint
review
board
meetings
annually
in
order
to
review
your
progress
and
make
a
determination
that
the
monies
are
spent
according
to
the
act.
J
I
understand
that
the
statutory
elements
are
important
as
a
threshold
question,
but
I
guess
I
was
more
interested
in
understanding
and
seeing
I
guess
what
what
the
unique
problems
are
with
regard
to
this
center,
and
I
guess
I
really
didn't
get
any
of
that
from
the
plan
and
I
guess
I'll
sort
of
pose.
That
question
is
what
do
you
see
is
the
unique
problems
that
have
plagued
this
center
and
prevented
you
know.
D
Well,
two
points
I
want
to
make
one:
the
plan
itself
was
meant
to
be
a
little
more
of
an
umbrella
or
broad-based
israel,
because
it's
potentially
a
23-year
plan,
and
not
only
does
the
market
change,
but
life
could
change
as
it
relates
to
the
administration
of
the
program.
So,
from
a
standpoint
of
being
more
specific
in
the
plan
as
to
let's
say,
we
didn't
put
things
in
there
like
you're,
going
to
look
at
20
000
square
feet
of
reuse
for
the
northeast
center.
D
For
example,
you
know
the
budget
purposely
and
the
land
uses
were
kept
somewhat
brought
to
give
you
the
flexibility,
as
it
relates
to
proposals
that
come
into
the
city
council
and
to
staff
on
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
So
your
pers,
your
observation
is
correct.
D
The
the
plan
is
purposely
broad
and
part
of
it
has
to
do
with
flexibility,
given
the
the
fact
that
the
time
potential
time
period
in
which
the
tif
could
be
in
place
and
to
allow
for
different
development
proposals
that
either
may
shift
with
the
market
or
what
the
city
requirements
are
for
their
property,
which
not
all
are
are
known
at
this
time.
D
In
terms
of
some
of
our
analysis,
what
we
see
is
some
of
the
unique
features
and
why
a
tif
could
be
important.
You
know
you
know.
First,
we
looked
at
where
numbers
guys
looked
at
the
devaluation,
I
mean
the
valuation
you
know
has
declined,
has
suffered
and
part
of
that
has
to
do
with.
D
That's
the
rub
and
and
it,
and
it
would
seem
that
you
know
you
know,
given
the
the
chronic
vacancy
in
that
center,
the
potential
for
the
tif
would
allow
for
a
way
to
have
a
bridge
or
cross
that
gap
between,
let's
say
negotiations
with
the
ownership
and
their
tenants
as
well
as
now
also
the
city
being
involved
as
a
potential
party
in
the
in
the
in
the
review,
in
terms
of
identify
identifying,
let's
say
tenants
that
are
more
sales
tax,
oriented
tenants
that
maybe
wouldn't
consider
that,
because,
let's
say
the
rent
might
be
fifteen
dollars,
a
foot
in
their
threshold
might
be
thirteen
dollars
a
foot.
D
You
know
either
because
of
the
fact
they
think
the
market's
untested
or
they
believe
they
need
a
little
bit
of
a
cushion.
Let's
say
for
the
first
four
or
five
years
until
the
labor
to
make
until
they
can
make
a
go
of
it.
D
That's
where
tiff
can
potentially
be
in
a
a
way
to
assist
those
kind
of
projects
in
a
a
market.
That's
either
had
some
perception
that
it's
tough
for
whatever
you
know,
whatever
reasons
and
the
ability
to
try
to
attract
new
users
or
get
them
interested,
because
you
can
directly
affect
some
of
the
you
know,
economics
of
occupancy.
J
D
Interpreting
you
could
and
again-
and
the
hope
would
be-
and
you've
done
in
terms
of
your
analysis
or
our
assistance
to
the
city
in
the
past
is
there's
always
been
a
careful
tightrope.
You've
walked
in
terms
of
making
sure
the
project
can't
pay
for
itself
identifying
that
there
is
some
public
benefit
or
public
improvements
that
are
tied
to
it,
that
it's
not
just
a
repayment,
as
it
relates
to
the
dollars
and
cents,
but
there's
also
some
other
public
benefit
associated
with
the
with
the
city.
Investment.
J
D
Yes,
and
no
again,
we
have
the
ability
to
be
more
focused
here,
because
it
is
a
single
parcel
and
given
the
fact
that
the
base
is
lowered
over
the
years
in
terms
of
what
the
potential
could
be
based
on,
let's
say
when
it's
fully
occupied
the
ability
to
tap
into
some
significant
increment
could
also
be
you
know
very
good
as
it
relates
to
generating
new
tax
dollars.
D
J
The
west
evanston
tiff
I'll
just
be
blunt
and
honest.
I
think
people
don't
like
to
go
to
that
shopping
center,
because
it's
an
uncomfortable
neighborhood
because
of
the
way
dodge
looks
because
of
the
way
the
other
surrounding
areas
look
and
unfortunately,
the
west
evanston
tiff
hasn't
changed
that
look.
J
I
Then
I
think
you
would
see
a
huge
change.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
increment
one
of
the
most
exciting
things
about
this
is
that
there
is
a
possibility
that
this
shopping
center,
that
this
tif
could
generate
20
million
dollars
in
incremental
taxes,
which
means
over
the
base
of
what
they're
paying
now
we
could
see
an
additional
20
million
dollars
over
this
period
of
time.
I
I
So
there
is
nothing
to
lose
by
doing
this
because
we're
not
getting
any
increment
now,
because
in
fact
the
base
is
slipping,
let's
get
it
while
it's
down,
I
mean
the.
The
only
good
thing
about
about
the
assessments
being
down
is
that
the
increment
will
be
greater,
which
is
exactly
the
reason
why
we
didn't
include
this
originally
in
the
other
tip.
So
you
know
I
I
think
that
you
just
can't
lose
when
we're
not
reaching
into
our
pocket.
I
We're
saying:
look
shopping
center,
it's
up
to
you
you're,
either
going
to
generate
this
increment
and
we're
going
to
plow
it
back
in
to
making
you
more
successful
or
not
or
not,
and
so
I
I
really
encourage
us
to
support
this
another
thing
about
the
infrastructure.
When
you
have
adjacent
tax,
increment
financing
districts,
you
can
share.
D
D
I
So
I
I
just
don't
see
that
in
this
case
that
we
have
much
much
to
lose
and
only
things
to
gain
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
very
definite
things
you
can
do
with
an
increment
in
an
area
like
this
is
demolition
I
mean,
and
so
I
mean
I
see
some
of
that
frank
space
I
see
is
probably
ultimately
being
demolished
because
there's
so
much
vacant
space
behind
there.
I
don't
know
if
that'll
ever
happen,
but
it
would
be
possible
with
a.
M
Thank
you
thank
you,
and,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
report.
First
of
all,
I
agree
with
alderman
rainey
statements,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I
don't
see
the
downside
to
creating
this
tiff
tif.
I
would
have
to
disagree
with
alderman
wilson's
statements
in
terms
of
the
shopping
center
not
being
attractive.
I
will
admit
that
there
are
a
number
of
vacancies
there,
but
it
is
widely
used
by
many
residents.
The
dominic's
is
widely
used
by
many
residents.
M
M
M
Our
goal
is
to
get
stores
in
there,
they're
gonna,
for
myself
and
alderman
homes
and
and
what
we
would
like
to
see
for
the
west
side
of
evanston,
definitely
jobs
and
in
addition
to
that
registers
that
are
going
to
add
to
the
general
general
budget.
So
if
you
can
touch
on
some
of
the
things
that
we
can
look
forward
to
as
we
look
out
in
the
next,
maybe
10
to
15
years
and.
F
Okay,
yeah
thank
you
aldermen
birth
rate,
so
so
conceptually
we
have.
We
have
an
immediate
need,
which
is
to
address
the
the
vacancies
and
how
we
do
that
is,
and-
and
I
believe
that
this
this
particular
property
owner
will
have
success
in
attracting
retailers
to
this
site.
You
know
our
incentives
would
be
in
place
and
we
again
we
haven't
negotiated
anything.
F
Yet
the
incentive
would
be
put
in
place
to
really
elevate
or
to
get
a
retailer,
that's
kind
of
above
what
one
might
expect
in
the
short
term,
and
what
that
means
is.
Do
we
help
a
little
bit
with
build
out?
Maybe
we
don't
know
yet.
Is
there
some
need
from
the
developer
to
enter
into
a
long
term
lease
where
he
has
to
do
some
extensive
concessions
where
we
could
help
with
that?
F
That's
a
potential
use
of
the
tif,
so
the
immediate
short
term
in
terms
of
getting
the
the
accuracy
levels
back
up.
That's
our
immediate
need.
We
need
sales
tax
generated
and
the
real
again.
The
primary
focus
of
a
tif
is
to
to
generate
property
tax
so
longer
term,
and
I
I
don't
have
the
the
10
or
15
year
crystal
ball,
but
conceptually
you
could
imagine
that,
just
as
its
predecessor
use
was
a
metal
plating
company.
F
It's
a
250,
000
square
foot
shopping
center
roughly
and
it
serves
a
community
shopping
center
kind
of
role
and
community
shopping
center
role
is
usually
in
the
range
of
100
000
150
000
square
feet,
so
that
address
addresses
some
of
the
obsolescence
issues
so
imagine
a
day,
10
or
15
years
from
now
where
there
is
some
other
use
for
this
site
and
touching
out
what
alderman
rainey
has
suggested.
F
B
Thank
you
madame.
I
want
to
thank
our
consultants.
I
think
they
they
do
a
very
good
job
and
I'm
thank
you
for
your
justification
for
the
tiff,
and
I
appreciate
all
of
the
things
that
you
said
and
paul.
I
think
you've
done
a
very
good
job
on
this
too.
I
think
you
deserve
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
credit
for
it.
I
see
this
is
just
a
real,
really
important
thing
for
us
to
do,
and
I
do
want
to
assure
alderman
wilson.
B
I
think
this
will
have
an
incredible
effect
on
the
four
corners
of
that
intersection
that
are
are
so
important
to
the
city
of
evanston.
I
very
much
like
the
idea
of
a
a
neighborhood,
almost
small
regional
shopping
area,
and
I
think
that,
as
it
develops
over
time,
it
gives
us
a
unique
opportunity
to
have
the
space
grow
with
the
city
as
neighborhoods
change
or
desires,
change,
restaurants
come
and
go,
retail
comes
and
goes
having
a
space
of
that
size
really
gives
us
a
lot
of
flexibility.
B
N
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
in
terms
of
the
use
of
the
chopping
center.
I
think
the
staff
has
done
a
fantastic
job
of
presenting
the
tiff,
but
for
those
of
us
who
remember
from
the
beginning
of
the
usage
of
the
shopping
center-
and
I
hope
our
staff
will
guide
the
new
owner
in
terms
of
you
can't
you
just
can't
have
anything.
You
have
to
have
things
that
people
want
to
visit
those
things
that
people
enjoy.
N
Those
folks
are
still
there.
A
lot
of
people
are
still
there
and
I
think
people
will
come
if
there's
something
that
attracts
them.
I
don't.
I
know
that
even
the
other
three
corners
or
the
other
two
corners,
I
don't
count
the
one
on
the
nor
on
the
south
east
side,
but
mcdonald's
and
burger
king,
I
mean
they've,
been
doing
fantastic
business
all
along
because
people
like
to
go
there,
whether
it's
good
for
you
or
not,
but
they
still
like
to
go,
but
inside
the
shopping
center.
N
If
we
can
remember,
I
think
it
even
was
brought
before
our
economic
development
committee,
and
this
was
before
we
got
this
new
crackerjack
staff
that
we
have
now
when
curbs
wanted
to
stay,
but
couldn't
because
they
couldn't
afford
to
pay
the
rent
and
there
was
no
give
or
take.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
the
previous
owner
was
not
willing
to
sit
down
and
and
talk
to
so
there's
been
people
who
wanted
to
stay
and
couldn't
because
of
all
kinds
of
reasons.
H
I
have
a
couple
questions.
One
is
to
clarify
the
heart:
howard,
hartree
tiff.
It
wasn't
an
established
shopping
center
when
that
tif
was
put
into
place.
Is
that
correct?
I.
H
D
And
also,
I
think,
demolitionists
right.
H
H
That
when
alderman
grover
asked
the
question,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we
understand
exactly
what
the
single
parcel
it
was
pulling
partials
together.
It
was
a
complete
redevelopment.
So
just
want
to
be
clear
on
that.
Thank
you,
and
I
also
want
more
clarification
on.
I
think
you
said
that
the
developer
could
use
tiff
dollars
to
offset
how
much
they
could
charge
for
tenants
coming
in.
I'm
not
sure
that
I
actually
found
that
in
in
what's
required
legally
under
tiff.
H
I
in
my
previous
life,
was
on
a
tif
commission
many
years
ago,
but
I
didn't
think
that
was
part
of
eligible
require
uses
for
the
tiff
and
then,
mr
zalmanzak,
you
made
a
comment
that
you
were
confident
that
this
developer
could
attract
tenants
when
the
other
developer
couldn't-
and
I
was-
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
share
with
us
what
evidence
you
you
find
in
that
I
I'm
just
really
skeptical
about
putting
a
tiff
on
a
parcel.
That's
already
developed
when
really
what
this
is
about
is
about
commercial
developer,
really
marketing.
H
H
D
From
well
two
things:
let's
go
to
the
question
about
the
differential,
and
you
know
we
talked
about
writing
down
on
the
rent.
I
mean
you're
right.
A
rent
rate
down
is
not
an
eligible
cost.
You
you
really
have
to
tie.
You
really
have
to
tie
that
to
an
eligible
cost.
For
example,
if
a
two
dollar
savings
in
rent,
you
would
translate
that
to
if
it's
a
twenty
thousand
foot
space,
you
would
translate
that
to
forty
thousand
dollars
two
dollars
times:
twenty
thousand
dollars
of
rehab
work,
which
is
an
eligible
cost.
D
So
you
would
basically
tie
the
ability
to
use
tiff
money
to
pay
for
something
that
would
be
whether
it
was
again.
We
were
talking
earlier
about
some
of
the
spaces
being
a
little
too
deep
or
a
little
too
narrow
it
would
allow
for
or
for
cutting
spaces
up,
let's
say,
and
rather
than
pass
those
dollars
directly
on
the
rent
which
may
make
it
uncompetitive
or
not.
Competitive
you'd
have
the
ability
to
tiff
to
pay
for
a
portion
of
that
rehab
or
offset
a
portion
of
that
rehab.
So
you
do
you're
right.
D
You
do
have
to
tie
it
to
an
eligible
cost,
but
and
again,
but
usually
the
way
these
things
work,
the
tenant
and
the
owner
are
going
to
look
at
rents.
In
terms
of
you
know,
can
the
tenant
pay?
It
is
the
rent
that
the
owner
receives
sufficient.
You
know
for
their
return,
but
then
you
would
have
to
do
the
translation
in
the
middle
to
say.
D
H
H
D
You're
correct
okay,
I
mean
we
stand
corrected,
I
mean,
but
again
you
know
what
you
would
do
is
have
to
tie
it
to
an
eligible
cost
and
as
to
the
second
question
related
to
you're
talking
about
redevelopment
uses
in
terms
of
properties
and
again,
if
it's
basically
not
just
in
evanston.
I
could
point
to
a
couple.
We
worked
on
in
skokie
and
niles,
where
it
was
the
old
att
buildings,
tui
and
carpenter,
which
basically
were
existing
buildings.
They
were
industrial
and
portions
were
reused
for
commercial,
so
basically
the
tiff.
D
H
I'm
sorry
I
thought
you
no,
I
I
was
talking
about
existing
buildings,
so
you're
not
changing
the
use
here
at
all
you're,
not
really
improving
the
infrastructure.
Unless
you're
moving
you're
making
the
building
shorter,
you
may
be
doing
a
little
bit
better
with
delivery,
but
you're
not
overall
changing
the
function
of
the
the
shopping
center
that
that's
what
I'm
asking.
F
Ray
alderman
that
in
the
short
term,
that's
that's
correct,
I
mean
that's.
The
the
shopping
center
is
a
retail
commercial
strip.
I
mean
that's
what
it
is
and
I
think
in
these
other
examples
it's
I
mean
it's
fact
that
they
were
some
other
use
before
and
that
and
that's
where
alderman
braithwaite's
question
earlier,
I
think,
is
kind
of
relevant.
Is
you
know
what
what
could
this
be
later
in
life?
I
mean
in
the
short
term.
F
Yes,
we
we
do
contemplate
and
again
we
we
have
to
negotiate
with
your
approval,
your
your
consent,
any
deals
we
potentially
would
do
with
them.
One
thing
that
the
consultants
didn't
didn't
touch
on
was
the
budget
itself,
and
it's
a
small
percentage
of
the
the
budget
is
at
least
committed
or
planned
for
rehab
of
existing
structures.
F
Your
other
question
about
you
know:
history
doesn't
doesn't
necessarily
suggest
that
they'll
be
successful
in
the
future,
but
they've
they've
had
some
success
with
other
shopping
centers
in
the
region
and
in
wisconsin
that
are
that
have
high
occupancy
levels
and
that's
why
I
think
they
can
tap
into
that
into
that
network
and
and
really
bring
some
retailers
to
town.
C
Thank
you,
alderman
rainey,.
I
Paul
just
touched
on
what
I
was
going
to
comment
on
this
developer
or
shopping
center
owner,
whatever
you
call
them
and
manager
right,
they
own
and
manage.
I
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
say
about
the
small
users
at
this
location
now
is,
I
don't
know
so
much
about
the
rent
problem,
but
I
know
at
the
end
of
the
year
when
they
tally
up
the
additional
cam,
because
they're
triple
net
leases
that
some
of
the
small
users
have
been
burdened,
probably
not
this
year,
because
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
snow
removal
with
ten
and
twelve
thousand
dollar
end
of
the
year.
Additional
cam
payments,
which
is
a
killer,
and
so
there've
got
to
be
a
way
that
this
shopping
center
owner
I
mean.
I
I
know
the
leases
are
in
place,
but
there's
got
to
be
some
way.
These
small
users,
who
are
very
very
desirable
and
long-term
users,
can
avoid
some
of
that
burden
because
that
that's
huge
at
the
end
of
the
year,
a
ten
thousand
dollar
additional
cam
expenditure
is
outrageous
when
they're
paying
cam
every
month.
I
So
I
just
don't
see
how
we
can
how
we
can
lose
on
this,
whether
or
not
there's
an
identical
example
to
this
kind
of
tiff,
and
I'm
sure
there
are
many
of
them.
We
don't.
We
don't
tend
to
make
big
mistakes
with
our
tiffs.
We
we
haven't.
This
could
be
our
first
mistake,
but
I
think
it's
worth
the
risk.
We're
not
out
a
nickel
if
this,
if
the
tiff
does
not
generate
increment,
there's
not
going
to
be
a
penny
of
increments
spent.
So
there
you
go.
J
This
is
a
nice
shopping
center
to
me,
the
businesses
that
are
there,
I'm
there
almost
on
a
daily
basis.
My
daughter
dances
there
three
times
a
week.
I
can't
live
without
peninos
and
I'm
always
at
the
dominic's.
You
know
they
the
cashiers
know
me
by
name
as
do
the
peninos
people.
So
when
I
made
my
comment
about
people
being
uncomfortable
going
to
the
shopping
center,
that's
not
me.
This
is
this.
Is
my
neighborhood?
J
It's
not
my
ward,
but
this
is
my
neighborhood,
and
these
are
places
that
I
frequent
on
an
extremely
regular
basis
and
over
the
past.
However,
many
years
it's
been
very
frustrating
to
me
and
and
to
my
neighbors
to
to
see
the
lack
of
action
and
in
the
in
the
west
evanston
tiff
area
and
in
the
shopping
center,
and
I
guess
what
frustrates
me
is
that
I
don't
view
this
as
a.
J
I
don't
view
this
as
a
plan,
because
it's
not
a
plan,
it's
it's
a
it's
a
possible
tool
and
I
think
what
I
was
hoping
for
and
I
think
what
other
people
are
hoping
for
is
to
see
what
the
plan
is
or
just
a
general
sense
of
what
the
plan
is
and
that's
what
I'm
not
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
not
comfortable
with.
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
devise
a
more
cohesive
plan.
J
It
looks
bad,
it
looks
really
bad
and
there
are
people
in
other
parts
of
evanston,
because
if
I'm
out
at
the
ball
game
or
whatever
I'm
talking
to
my
friends,
I'm
talking
to
neighbors
who
don't
live
in
my
neighborhood,
I
get
comments
on
a
regular
basis
about
that
area
and
I'm
tired
of
it,
because
I
have
never
felt
uncomfortable
or
threatened
in
that
shopping
center.
I've
never
had
a
problem.
I've
been
robbed
at
gunpoint
at
a
metro
station,
but
I've
never
had
a
problem
at
this
shopping
center.
J
At
all,
and
I
think
it's
unfairly
portrayed
as
an
uncomfortable
location,
I
have
some
reservations
about
some
of
the
stuff.
That's
going
on
there
now,
there's
a
there's,
a
security
vehicle
with
sirens
on
that
seems
like
it's
constantly
running
around
and
again
that
creates,
I
think,
maybe
a
negative
perception
as
far
as
you
know,
whether
it's
safe
or
not,
but
perception
of
the
shopping
center
isn't
it
is
an
important
component
here
and
I
think
that
that's
being
completely
overlooked-
and
I
think
the
surrounding
neighborhood
is
also
being
overlooked.
F
Just
just
a
brief
response
to
alderman
wilson
yeah,
it's
unfortunate
that
the
tif
statute
has
kind
of
technical
nature
to
it
when
it
comes
to
the
plan
itself,
but
as
one
of
the
eligible
costs
with
the
tif
is
actual
community
plan.
So
we
you
know
we
could.
We
could
do
that
with
with
tiff
increment.
You
know,
and
and
our
economic
development
staff
is
really
highly
focused
on
on
the
west
side,
between
being
engaged
with
the
west
village
west
end
the
shopping,
the
shopping
center
management
itself.
C
M
But
I
do
appreciate
the
the
conversation
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
a
couple
of
things
that
were
said
first,
regarding
scott
n
binder,
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
him.
I
know
that
he's
been
very
cooperative
with
meeting
with
both
the
city
manager
and
and
also
our
office
of
economic
development.
M
Some
of
the
issues
that
he's
inherited
yes,
high
rent
we've
talked
about
the
care
of
the
location.
We've
talked
about
the
lack
of
security
to
aldermen
wilson's
point.
I
think,
if
you
look
around
town,
it
is
standard
sam's
club.
I
also
believe
at
howard
street
to
see
a
car
with
lights
as
a
presence
for
security,
and
I
think
that's
that's
helped.
M
M
Leadership
evanston
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
hosted
a
community
meeting
where
they're
taking
a
poll
right
now
that
we
have
over,
I
think,
close
to
200
residents
that
have
provided
feedback
to
this
mob.
I
guess
my
point
in
bringing
this
all
up,
that
I
don't
just
think
it's
it's.
M
It's
a
retail
space
for
the
second
ward,
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
retail
space
for
evanston,
and
so
when
I
look
at
the
disparity
when
I
look
at
the
vacancy,
I'm
so
thankful
that
we're
using
this
tool
as
tiff-
and
I
think
alderman
rainey's
made
this
comment
months
ago.
We
do
an
excellent
job
here
in
evanston,
utilizing
tiff
as
a
tool.
M
This
isn't
the
first
time
that
we're
doing
this,
and
so
I
guess
where
my
concern
is.
I,
although
I
can
appreciate
the
the
conversation
and
being
very,
very
detailed
in
the
questions,
I'm
I'm
very
confused
about
the
lack
of
support
that
I'm
hearing
from
some
of
my
fellow
councilmen
when
we're
talking
about
addressing
this
large
retail
space,
the
potential
that
it
has
for
all
of
evanston,
and
so
I
guess
we'll
find
out
on
the
29th
one
when
it's
time
to
vote
and
that's
where
I'll
end.
My
comments.
C
O
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
understood.
I
won't
go
on
infinitely,
but
this
isn't
the
nature
of
a
hearing
I'll
try
and
keep
it
to
fact,
rather
than
an
opinion.
Jeff
smith
2724
harrison,
I'm
currently
in
the
22nd
year
of
my
most
recent
stint
in
evanston
27
years
total
over
35
in
the
area,
I'm
a
former
customer
of
some
of
the
departed
shops
at
evanston
plaza,
but
I've
been
going
to
them
since
well
I'll
date,
myself.
O
For
decades,
we
used
to
go
to
frank's
a
lot:
toys,
r,
us,
kids
or
us.
People
may
remember
used
to
be
there
and
it's
a
good
place
to
get
close.
If
you
talk
about
a
food
desert,
rogers
park
was
kind
of
a
commercial
desert
at
that
point,
and
people
came
up
to
evanston
to
shop.
O
I'm
opposed
to
a
one
parcel
one
property
owner
tiff
at
this
location,
with
a
budget
of
almost
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
over
the
next
two
decades.
That's
in
part,
because
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
the
tool.
I
believe
that
tiff
has
been
successfully
used
unquestionably
at
howard,
hartree,
very
arguably,
the
first
washington
national.
I
think
it's
overused
in
illinois
cook,
county
generally
and
to
some
extent
in
evanston.
It's
a
top-down
development
tool
for
some
districts.
O
It
deprives
them
of
revenue
for
non-tax
cap
districts,
the
rates
of
taxpayers
outside
the
district
rise
as
the
overall
eav
is
divided
into,
but
the
increment
from
the
district
isn't
included.
I
disagree
that
we
should
look
at
the
short
term
because
we're
locking
away
for
potentially
up
to
23
years
up
to
two-thirds
of
the
potential
equalized
assessed
value
of
this
property.
O
That's
an
awful
lot
to
lock
away
for
that
long
and
the
the
current
investors
have
already
gotten
a
couple
big
breaks
which
I'll
go
into
the
history
of
that,
and
I
don't
think
that
the
requirements
for
the
overused
instrument
of
tax
increment
financing
have
been
met
in.
In
this
instance,
the
property
was
bought
by
joseph
frieden
associates
in
1998,
for
about
2.7
million
freed
was
a
significant
customer
of
lasalle
bank
and
developed
a
number
of
properties,
including
in
wicker
park.
O
Madison
wisconsin
aspen
colorado,
as
well
as
the
infamous
block
37
in
the
loop
there
was
along
with
the
residential
real
estate
bubble
in
america.
A
commercial
real
estate
bubble,
which
hasn't
been
talked
about
as
much
lasalle,
was
bought
by
bank
of
america
as
part
of
that
shakeout
bank
of
america
proceeded
to
foreclose,
not
only
on
evanston
plaza
but
properties
all
around
the
country,
including
many
that
freed
owned,
and
they
bought
this
property
for
about
12.3
million.
O
According
to
public
records,
there
were
unpaid,
real
estate
taxes
and
was
sold
at
great
discount
to
the
current
investment
group
for
about
8.1
million,
so
they
bought
it
last
year
for
not
much
more
and
certainly
less
after
inflation
than
it
sold
changed
hands
for
in
1998,
but
they
have
meanwhile
appealed
the
taxes.
The
first
pass
for
2012
was
over
7
million,
but
they
got
it
down
to
2.3.53
million.
That's
a
66
tax
break.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
appealed
your
taxes
and
got
your
assessment
cut
by
two-thirds.
O
I
suspect
not
too
many,
so
there's
a
break
on
the
price
and
it's
already
a
break
on
the
taxes.
It's
reducing
it
to.
Well
below
the
point
where
we
would
get
the
benefit
of
even
the
normal
background
rise
in
in
in
value
there's,
so
six
so-called
qualifications
factors
that
have
been
found,
but
several
of
them
are
duplicative
and
many
of
them
relate
back
to
vacancy
as
a
long
time
patron
of
the
mall.
I
don't
think
there's
any
problem
with
ingress
or
egress.
O
The
interior
build
out
really
isn't
significantly
different
than
any
other
tenant
faces
anywhere.
The
frank
space
has
been.
You
know
there
was
really
only
two
medium
box
tenants
and
one
of
them
is
still
a
big,
a
big
box
there.
The
remediation
issues
are
irrelevant
if
you're
not
going
to
put
residential
on
this
space,
because
the
property
only
changed
hands
in
1998
on
condition.
That
freed
was
going
to
get
a
remediation
letter
from
the
iepa
and
so
you've
got
arsenic,
lead,
etc.
O
That
are
underneath
the
existing
stores
they
think,
but
unless
you're
going
to
bulldoze
it
up
and
start
putting
condos
with
new
foundations
in
there,
it's
that's
really
not
an
issue.
The
obsolescence,
if
anything,
is
just
due
to
the
fact
that
there's
challenges
facing
auto
oriented
malls
everywhere,
but
these
problems,
the
problems
with
the
mall,
aren't
those
that
are
you're
going
to
address
through
a
tax,
increment
financing
district.
The
problems
that
have
been
identified
at
the
mall
relate
to
size.
It's
a
lot
of
national
tenants
like
to
be
in
more
of
a
regional
location.
O
That's
a
location
issue
that
scott
inbind
has
identified.
It's
viewed
as
too
small
by
some
chains
and
too
small
by
some
local
businesses.
Again,
this
is
what
the
developers
have
said.
There's
the
perception
of
crime,
and
I
agree
with
the
statements
that
have
been
made.
I've
never
felt
unsafe
there
there's
a
restrictive
dominic's
lease
which
been
as
a
barrier
to
some
tenants.
There's
been
excessive
common
area,
maintenance
fees
and
there's
been
a
recession,
but
a
tif
isn't
going
to
take
care
of
any
of
those.
O
O
Therefore,
I
don't
think
it's
it's
blighted
and
while
we
probably
won't
lose
money
by
doing
this,
some
districts
might
it
fails
the
but
for
test,
because
a
you're
probably
going
to
get
more
taxes,
no
matter
what's
done,
assuming
the
developers
say
they
are
going
to
do
say,
do
what
they
say,
they're
going
to
do
when
when
they
bought
it.
Meanwhile
we're
making
a
23-year
commitment
in
reaction
to
largely
recessionary
factors
that,
while
severe
in
historical
terms,
is
only
a
recent
duration
and
isn't
supposed
to
be
permanent.
O
The
vacant
storefronts
at
evanston
plaza,
look
just
like
the
vacant
store
fronts
in
the
mall
south
of
the
cta
station
at
howard.
If
you
drive
through
there-
and
I
remember
when
that
was
just
a
glimmer
in
developers
and
politicians
eyes-
that
was
tiffed
and
you
can
tiff
all
you
want
and
you
can
build
all
you
want,
but
unless
you
adjust
to
market
and
let
the
market
work,
some
of
what
markets
are
supposed
to
do.
It's
it's
not
going
to
happen.
Meanwhile,
there's
no
question
that
it
will
have
an
impact
on
other
taxpayers.
O
There's
not
many
areas
in
evanston
where
you
would
build
something
that
looks
like
the
glenn,
but
this
might
be
a
place
where
you
have
a
mini
multi-use,
glenn
type
area.
The
obsolescence
may
be
in
auto
oriented
strip
malls.
This
area
may
be
saturated
with
them,
and
evanston
keeps
on
making
it
more
difficult
to
drive
around
the
city.
So,
let's
not
pump
air
into
a
collapsed
shopping
center
bubble.
Let's
be
very
careful
in
considering
the
use
of
this
tool
and
take
the
long-term
view
rather
than
a
short-term
reaction.
Thank
you.
C
C
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
the
eyes,
haven't.
C
C
It
is
national
preservation,
month
older
americans,
month
and
national
police
week,
and
I
would
like
to
extend
my
sympathies
to
the
family
of
john
wyatt,
who
was
the
sixth
ward
alderman
for
12
years
in
the
60s
and
70s.
He
was
the
founder
of
the
rotary
club
of
the
evanston
lighthouse
and
he
was.
I
hear,
an
excellent
bridge
player
at
the
levy
center,
so
I'm
very
sorry
and
wish
his
family
all
the
best
city
manager.
Do
you
have
public
announcements.
K
Yes,
ma'am
mayor
just
two.
First
of
all,
on
friday
morning,
we
have
a
economic
development
summit,
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
issues
we've
talked
about
this
evening
as
well
as
others.
If
you've
not
already
signed
up
for
the
summit,
you
can
go
to
our
website
cityofviston.org
and
do
that
I
think
we're
well.
K
Over
100
people,
we
decided
to
move
the
activities
down
to
the
second
floor
here
rather
than
at
the
paracel
room,
because,
quite
honestly,
I
think
we've
I've
grown
the
paracel
room
with
the
the
number
of
folks
that
that
are
are
doing
that.
So
I
will
look
forward
to
seeing
everyone
here
on
friday
morning.
I
believe
we
start
at
8
30
and
go
we'll
be
done
a
little
before
noon,
so
that
is
happening
on
friday.
K
Then,
on
saturday,
katherine
hurley,
our
sustainable
programs
coordinators
asked
me
to
remind
you
that
we're
having
a
green
ball,
the
inaugural
evanston
green
ball,
presented
in
partnership
with
the
evanston
environmental
association
on
friday
may
18th.
First
time,
event
will
be
a
festive
evening
of
food
drinks
and
live
music
designed
to
keep
the
ball
rolling
at
the
evanston
ecology
center.
The
mission
includes
a
taste
of
evanston
sampling
of
food
from
local
restaurants,
artesian
food
providers
and
caterers,
blues
entertainment
by
south
boulevard
band
live
auction
and
raffle,
and
beverages
provided
by
goose,
island
and
wine.
K
Styles
ball
is
held
from
7
to
11
at
the
levy
center,
less
than
30
tickets
are
remaining
and
can
be
purchased
at
the
ecology
center
or
online
at
evanston
environment.org.
So,
madam
mayor,
those
are
my
announcements.
C
C
O
Thanks
I'll
keep
it
briefer
now,
this
is
regarding
the
resolution
in
favor
of
overturning
citizens,
united,
which
comes
out
of
the
rules
committee,
and
I
favor
the
spirit
of
the
resolution
I
emailed,
I
believe
most
of
the
members
of
the
council.
I
try
to
email
all
of
you.
I
support
a
resolution
like
this,
but
I
would
delete
in
particular
the
language
that
says
that
the
constitution
only
applies
to
natural
persons.
O
I
think
if
we
said
that
the
second
baptist
church
doesn't
enjoy
the
freedom
of
religion
or
that
evanston,
roundtable
or
evanston
now
don't
enjoy
the
privileges
of
the
first
amendment.
We
would
be
mistaken.
Well,
we
don't
want
to
be
on
record.
I
think
is
urging
any
of
those
outcomes.
We
don't
want
evanston
community
foundation
to
be
subject
to
work
search
without
warrant,
so
I
would
modify
that
and
limit
the
resolution
to
senate
joint
resolution.
O
I
believe
it's
29,
which
was
introduced
by
senator
udall
and
senator
durbin
and
six
other
well,
originally,
five
other
senators.
Now
it's
up
to
21
co-sponsors
in
the
senate.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
that
and
evanston
would
be
a
leader
in
illinois
if,
if,
if
they
did
it,
four
or
five
other
states,
and
at
least
100
other
municipalities
are
on
record
as
urging
the
overturn
of
citizens
united
for
the
reasons
set
forth
and
explained
in
the
rules
committee
thanks.
P
Eliot
station
715
asbury
avenue.
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
I
commend
the
rules
committee
for
proposing
that
the
council
passed
a
resolution
to
reverse
the
citizen
united
decision,
as
you
probably
know,
from
all
the
whereases
that
the
that
decision
has
allowed
corporations
to
spend
on
limited
amounts
of
money
in
our
elections
on
behalf
of
candidates
and
we've
already
seen
a
flood
of
funds
into
the
electoral
process.
P
Although
these
expenditures
are
not
made
in
exchange
for
specific
decisions
by
office
holders,
it's
reasonable
to
suspect
that
the
judgment
of
office
holders
and
would-be
office
holders
is
swayed
by
these
funds,
especially
when
the
sums
are
as
large
as
they
have
recently
become.
Corporate
donations
are
made
with
the
intent
of
protecting
corporate
interests,
not
the
interests
of
the
average
voters.
P
As
a
result,
average
citizens
are
losing
control
over
the
electoral
process
that
is
supposed
to
guarantee
that
office
holders
legislate
to
promote
the
interests
of
the
great
majority
of
americans
gradually.
Many
americans
are
realizing
that
the
citizens
united
decision
is
having
a
pernicious,
pernicious,
pernicious
effect
on
american
politics,
and
what
can
be
done
about
that?
One
major
effort
has
been
to
convince
local
governments
to
endorse
resolutions
favoring
a
reversal
of
citizens.
United
many
citizens,
cities
and
towns
have
already
done
this
frequently
when
these
kinds
of
resolutions
come
before
the
council
and
other
local
councils.
P
Opponents
will
say
this
is
not
an
appropriate
subject
for
our
local
representatives,
and
I
would
assert
that
the
integrity
of
our
national
and
state
elections
definitely
affects
the
matters
with
which
our
local
representatives
must
deal.
The
capacity
of
our
local
government
to
deal
with
public
needs
that
are
part
of
its
responsibility
is
heavily
impacted
by
what
our
state
and
national
administrations
are
doing,
or
failing
to
do
so
to
suggest
that
somehow
local
matter
should
be
kept
separate
from
state
and
national
politics
is
to
make
an
artificial
distinction.
P
I
would
assert
that
it
is
proper
and
urgent
that
our
local
officials
lend
their
supports
to
efforts
to
make
average
americans
aware
of
the
deleterious
effects
of
unlimited
corporate
contributions
to
our
politics.
How
these
change
will
come
about.
It's
not
clear
whether
the
constitutional
amendment
will
ever
be
completed
as
jeff
points
out
the
language.
There
are
many
different
versions.
I
don't
think
that's
the
real
issue.
The
real
issue
is
that
we
need
to
have
a
change
in
the
way
our
our
elections
are
funded.
P
We
need
to
have
money
taken
out
of
politics
and
without
constant
and
frequent
voicing
of
this
opinion,
our
elected
officials
at
the
state
and
federal
level
will
not
make
changes.
So,
therefore,
I
urge
the
council
to
add
their
voice
to
the
other
towns
and
cities
that
are
doing
this
to
support
this
general
movement
to
see
corporate
money
on
the
scale
it's
reaching
taken
out
of
our
politics
thanks
very
much.
Thank.
C
Q
Good
evening
council,
we
really
appreciate
having
an
opportunity
to
be
here
we're
here
on
behalf
of
2424
dempster,
the
chicago
home
and
chicken
and
waffles
project.
This
is
my
wife,
the
actual
owner,
I
think
she
hasn't
been
seen
before,
but
this
is
tonya
johnson,
the
main
principal
behind
the
project.
I
would
just
like
to
say
it's
a
privilege
and
honor
of
being
a
part
of
evanston
and
hoping
that
we
will
actually
be
approved
and
have
this
project
actually
materialized,
just
want
to
say
one
thing:
real,
quick.
Q
We
had
the
opportunity
to
have
don
john
don
thompson,
who
is
presently
the
president
of
north
america
for
mcdonald's
visit
us
twice.
He
had
a
chance
to
really
have
in-depth
dialogue
with
myself
and
my
wife
and
tell
us
how
he
felt
about
the
project
and
to
inform
us
in
june.
He
will
be
the
new
ceo
of
mcdonald's,
we're
really
privileged
to
hear
some
of
his
insight
on
the
project.
He
feels
very
strongly
about
the
project.
He
thinks
it's
very
innovative
project.
Q
I
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
it
I'm
going
to
make
it
very
brief
and
to
the
point,
mcdonald's
is
the
company
that
got
chipotle
on
the
map,
also
boston
market.
They
were
very
successful
operations.
The
ceo
presently
after
chipotle
was
able
to
buy
out
everything
and
become
full
owners
of
chipotle.
Q
Q
Q
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Nick
oh
nicolas.
R
Madame
members
of
the
council,
I'll
keep
those
very
brief.
I
just
my
comments
related
to
my
name.
Sorry,
my
name
is
nikolai
larblowski.
I
live
at
2627
lincolnwood
drive.
My
comment
is
related
to
our
request
for
major
zoning
relief,
specifically
parking
in
the
required
parking
in
front.
We
live
on
a
lot
small
lot,
that's
smaller
than
the
standard
r1.
R
It's
a
corner
lot
with
no
alley
access
and
we
do
not
have
a
good
alternative
for
parking.
Our
current
garage
is
not
really
usable
for
parking,
a
modern
car
and
we're
looking
to
convert
that
space
to
a
living
space
so
that
we
have
room
for
our
family
of
five
we've
lived
here
for
11
years.
We
love
the
neighborhood.
We
feel
that
our
project
will
preserve
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
we're
we're
working
very
hard
at
achieving
that
continuity
with
our
current
structure
and
the
neighborhood,
and
we
just
request
your
your
consideration
of
our
variants.
S
S
C
S
C
S
According
to
the
record,
he
committed
a
city
lawyer
attending
the
proceedings
failed
to
mention
the
u.s
supreme
court
case,
nevada,
commission
on
ethics
versus
kerrigan.
According
to
the
record,
the
city
attorney
failed
to
cite
illinois
state
statutes,
50
ilcs
105-1
at
cicentes
and
65
ilcs
5-3.1
555
tenant
secunties,
as
incorporated
in
the
city
code.
One.
S
S
S
And
to
turn
off
the
microphone
is
unconstitutional.
The
city
mailed.
To
me
legal
notice,
telling
me
that
I
have
standing
as
an
affected
property
owner
to
speak
about
kendall.
How
can
you
contradict
the
legal
notice
that
was
given
by
the
city?
It
takes
a
full
three
minutes
for
a
citizen
to
state
their
opinion.
S
S
C
C
C
Welcome
back
to
the
evanston
city
council
meeting
ms
rayo,
if
you'll
let
your
mother
speak,
she
has
three
minutes.
I
still
have
the
balance
of
my
three
minutes.
You
are
way
over
your
three
minutes
only
because.
S
S
C
S
S
I
C
I
C
Thank
you,
alderman
grover.
Would
you
give
this
consent
agenda.
I
S
I
S
It
is
submitted
that
there
are
several
instances
in
the
record
that
suggests
that
members
of
your
ethics
committee
asked
about
potential
conflicts
of
interest
in
light
of
how
income
was
accounted
for
and
salaries
were
apportioned
among
the
law.
Firm's
attorneys,
including
your
first
word
member
son.
My
attorney
pointed
out
that
you
are
at
a
tremendous
advantage
if
you,
as
the
defendant,
can
control
the
complaint
and
allegations
presented
to
any
tribunal,
let
alone
one
chosen
by
your
sympathetic
friend.
S
Third,
it
is
submitted
that
the
appearance
of
impropriety
should
have
been
highlighted
by
the
city's
lawyer,
and
your
ethics
committee
should
have
been
apprised
of
the
u.s
supreme
court's
ruling
in
kerrigan.
It
is
submitted
that
until
such
an
evidentiary
threshold
is
achieved,
the
findings
of
your
ethics
committee
cannot
possibly
be
persuasive.
S
Their
findings
cannot
end
comment
on
issues
that
this
council
continues
to
discuss
and
that
are
not
addressed
in
their
report.
It
is
submitted
that
since
the
council
can
change
its
vote,
it
has
jurisdiction-
the
city
mailed
legal
notice
of
the
kendall
matter,
stating
that
we
have
the
legal
right
to
speak
as
affected
property
owners.
T
T
T
I
was
fully
clothed.
I
only
stated
the
facts.
These
facts
are
from
newspapers
and
city
documents.
It
is
submitted
that
I
was
silenced
because
you
do
not
want
me
to
talk
about
the
truth.
The
truth
is
that
the
kendall
reception
was
passed
with
no
discussion,
no
discussion
at
all.
The
truth
is
that
it
involves
killing
trees,
killing
a
lot
of
trees,
a
lot
of
old
trees,
endangering
pedestrians.
T
I
The
administration
public
works
committee
met
this
evening
and
asked
your
approval
for
the
payroll
through
april
27
22nd
the
amount
of
formula
two
million
four
hundred,
ninety
eight
thousand,
ninety
nine
dollars
and
seventy
one
cents,
the
city
bills
through
may
15
in
the
amount
of
four
million
six
hundred,
fifty
thousand
four
hundred
eighty
four
dollars
and
eighty
five
cents
and
credit
card
activity
through
march
thirty.
I
The
committee
asked
your
approval
to
authorize
the
manager
to
execute
a
one
year,
contract
for
purchase
of
ford
parts
in
the
amount
of
forty
nine
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
with
gulf
mill.
Ford
inc
approval
is
requested
for
this.
Oh
a3
is
off
the
consent
agenda
and
will
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair,
I'm
sorry.
I
Next
approval
is
requested
to
authorize
city
manager
to
execute
a
contract
for
the
church
street
improvement
project
and
dodge
avenue
and
lake
street
streetscape
contract
to
chicago
land,
paving
in
the
amount
of
eight
hundred
and
ninety
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
dollars.
Funding
is
from
west
evanston
tiff,
which
has
a
budget
amount
of
860
000
with
staff
requesting
an
additional
approval
of
40
000
of
tif
funds
for
the
project.
I
Architectural
study
of
potential
locations
for
performing
art
venue
in
downtown
evanston
funding
is
50
000
from
the
national
endowment
for
the
arts,
our
town
grant
25
000
from
washington,
national
tax,
increment
financing,
district
and
25
000
from
the
evanston
economic
development
fund.
We
ask
your
approval
also
to
execute
a
change
order
number
one
in
the
not
to
exceed
amount
of
thirty,
seven
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
three
dollars
to
the
agreement
with
american
pipeline
arts
for
the
2012
cured
in
place
pipelining
contract.
I
I
I
I
Let's
see
ordinance
4012
increasing
one
day,
liquor
license
fees
is
off
the
consent
agenda
and
will
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair.
Next
is
approval
is
requested
for
ordinance
46012
amending
minimum
fines
for
general
c
ticket
administrative
adjudication
violations.
These
are
non-parking
ordinance
violations
that
would
increase
the
minimum
penalty
for
these
general
sea
tickets,
fines
by
ten
dollars.
This
is
for
action
tonight
under
planning
and
development.
We
ask
your.
I
The
committee
asked
your
approval
of
resolutions,
42
r12,
which
authorizes
the
manager
to
execute
assignment
of
real
estate
contract
for
the
purchase
of
1600
foster
avenue
in
evanston
for
one
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
funding
will
be
provided
by
the
city's
18.5
million
dollar
neighborhood
stabilization
program
to
grant
this
is
to
implement
the
first
phase
of
evan's
emerson
square,
a
new
mixed
income
housing
development.
I
Next
we
ask
your
approval
for
one
year,
extension
of
the
adopted
plan,
development
for
the
construction
of
a
four
unit
building
by
brinshore
development
to
be
located
on
the
currently
vacant
parcel
at
1915,
1919
gray.
Avenue
next
item
is
going
to
be
for
introduction
and
then
will
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair
for
action
tonight.
I
This
is
ordinance
48012,
which
grants
a
major
zoning
relief
for
front
yard
parking
and
a
rear
yard
setback
at
26,
27
lincolnwood
drive
next
is
amending
portions
of
the
zoning
ordinance
related
to
home
occupations.
I'm
taking
this
off
the
consent
agenda
to
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair
as
there
was
a
great
deal
of
committee
discussion
regarding
the
matter.
I
I
I
I
The
zoning
board
of
appeals
and
city
staff
and
the
committee
recommend
the
adoption
of
ordinance
42012,
which
grants
a
special
use
permit
for
the
operation
of
a
commercial
indoor
recreation
facility
at
2125,
ashland
avenue.
This
is
for
action
under
human
services.
The
committee
asks
your
approval
of
the
township
of
evanston
april
2012,
payroll
and
bills
in
the
amount
of
118.
I
Next,
the
human
services
committee
and
staff
recommend
city
council
approval
of
substantial
amendments
to
the
2011-2012
action
plans,
including
funding
allocations
to
individual
agencies.
This
must
be
submitted
hud
by
may
fifteenth,
two
thousand
and
twelve
next
approval
of
the
harley
clark
mansion
request.
Yes
ma'am.
This
is
remo.
H3
is
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
will
be
addressed
by
the
committee
chair
under
economic
development
committee.
The
economic
development
committee
and
staff
recommend
city
council
approval
of
43r12,
which
authorizes
the
city
manager
to
execute
a
loan
agreement
of
up
to
two
hundred
thousand.
I
This
is
taken
off
the
consent
agenda.
This
is
the
chicken
and
waffles
resolution.
Next
under
rules
committee,
a
member
has
requested
that
the
matter
concerning
citizens
united,
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
for
the
purpose
of
amendments
under
appointments
for
appointment
to
the
housing
and
community
development
act
committee.
The
mayor
recommends
jeanne
sankey
and
amir
with
that.
I
conclude
the
consent
agenda
and
move
approval.
H
A
3.3
the
committee
asked
your
approval
of
contract
with
alpha
paint
works
incorporated
for
the
2012
fire.
Hydrant
painting
and
alderman
grover
has
an
amendment
to
it.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
madam
I'm,
not
sure
I
have
an
amendment
I
I
did
explore
the
possibility,
in
connection
with
this
contract,
a
year's
contract
to
paint
and
refurbish
sandblasting
and
painting
fire
hydrants
in
evanston
the
idea
that
perhaps
we
should
expand
our
purple
fire
hydrant
efforts
to
more
of
evanston
and
have
learned
with
discussions
with
staff
that
we
can
do
this.
L
That
is,
if
we,
if
we
take
the
fire
hydrants,
that
we
will
be
the
older
ones,
sandblasting
and
repainting
as
part
of
this
contract,
we
can
do
this
at
no
additional
cost
to
the
city
and
no
impairment
to
our
life
safety
operations
that
is
use
of
fire
hydrants
by
our
firefighters.
They
know
where
they
are.
L
It
doesn't
matter
what
color
they
are,
and
I
recommend
that
we
consider
then
repainting
as
part
of
this
agenda
item
fire
hydrants
purple
instead
of
red
and
there's
a
possibility
that
I
will
explore
on
our
behalf
to
secure
some
kind
of
contribution
from
new
athletics
and
has
indicated
they're
interested
as
well.
I
can't
tell
you
what
dimension
that
would
be,
but
they
would
be
interested,
obviously
like
the
idea
very
much.
L
E
Thank
you
madame.
While
I
would
I
like
the
idea
of
supporting
university
in
this
effort.
I
and
I
could
see
actually
the
area
around
the
university,
where
there's
a
immediate
tie-in
to
banners
and
other
things
that
the
university
does
so
well
that
a
hydrant
program
that
were
you
know,
included
in
many
purple
ones
around.
There
would
have
a
nice
connection
and
a
nice
show
and
I
support
for
the
university.
However,
I
do
think
it'd
be
a
mistake
to
paint
all
city
hydrants
purple.
It's
not
you
know.
We
have
a
very
classic
landscape
parkway.
E
We
have,
we
have
classic
light
posts,
we
have
very
traditional
homes.
I
think
that
the
red
fire
hydrant
is
kind
of
a
classic
american
icon,
and
I
also
would
be
curious
about
I'm
curious
about
the
legibility
of
purple
purple's,
a
dark
color.
If
that
figures
into
you
know
red
is
a
color.
You
can
see
both
at
night
and
during
the
day
it's
very
visible
and
I
think
purple
might
be
a
you
know-
has
some
potential
danger,
so
those
are
my
thoughts.
Thank
you.
B
B
If
the
university
would
like
to
ask
for
a
permit
to
paint
various
fire,
hydrants
purple
and
pay
for
them,
I
think
that's
a
fabulous
idea
around
the
university,
but
I've
had
I've
had
inquiries
to
paint
other
fire
hydrants
colors
that
match
corporate
corporate
designs
and
I've.
I'm
not
sure
we
want
to
go
there.
I
think
that's
something
we
probably
want
to
talk
about
fire
hydrants.
B
Well,
for
example,
I
mean
I,
I
did
know
that
a
purple
fire
hydrant
is
non-potable
water,
so
I
don't
think
we
want
to
send
that
message
out
that
you
can't
drink
water
out
of
the
fire
hydrant,
but
I
I
do
think
that
it
is
a
form
of
advertising
and
while
we
might
look
at
it
as
just
a
nice
gesture
of
friendship,
there's
a
lot
of
businesses,
not-for-profits
other
organizations
in
evanston
that
have
a
color
associated
with
them.
The
mayor
mentioned
the
high
school,
for
example.
B
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
what
our
color
is
here
in
evanston
and
I
think,
with
the
default
is
a
red
fire
hydrant.
For
the
time
being,
if
it
sometime
in
the
future,
we
want
to
have
an
evanston
color
and
that
color
is
purple,
then
so
be
it.
But
I
I
think
it
actually
does
a
disservice
to
everyone
else.
Who
hasn't
has
an
interest
in
painting
their
own
fire,
hydrants
and
I'd
hate
to
see
the
mishmash
of
colors
around
without
some
further
discussion.
I
But
that's
that's
not
why
I'm
standing
I'm
staying.
I
wasn't
going
to
mention
this
publicly,
but
since
we're
talking
about
this,
this
is
exactly
and
I'm
going
to
refer
this
to
alderman
braithwaite
and
the
evanson
business
committee,
because
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
purchase
that
should
have
stood
stayed
in
evanston.
I
L
Thank
you
again,
I
second
the
motion
to
simply
approve
the
contract.
I
was
just
putting
it
out
there
as
and
another
idea.
Obviously,
we've
had
a
very
successful
purple
fire
hydrant
plan
program
in
my
neighborhoods,
without
a
lot
of
objection
or
even
a
fence,
so
consider
it
think
about
fire
hydrants
in
a
different
way
is
all
I'm
asking.
Thank
you.
K
C
K
C
That
is
correct.
The
motion
before
us
is
for
red
fire
hydrants.
Is
that
correct,
alderman
grover
alderman,
alderman
burris,
then
the
chair
of
apnw
has
spoken
all
right.
This
is
for
action
and
this
is
a
money
item.
So
city
clerk.
Would
you
call
the
roll
you're
voting
on
approval
of
the
contract,
with
alpha
paintworks
incorporated
for
the
fire
hydrant
painting.
H
C
L
My
thinking
was
that
we
should
find
out
who
pulls
these
one
day,
looking
like
what
the
impact
is
on
those
who
receive
life
yeah.
According
to
my
read,
this
is
low
and
very
low
impact
of
the
city
budget.
L
I
think
it
amounts
to
2
800
on
the
city
budget,
but
it
looks
to
me
as
if
it's
going
to
be
high
impact
to
those
non-profits
and
those
groups
that
are
seeking
the
licenses,
and
I
don't
think
for
the
type
of
events
that
they're
hosting
that
these
licenses
are
connected
with
that
we
want
to
dissuade
them
from
having
those
events
in
evanston.
This
is
just
one
piece
of
the
budgets
for
a
non-profit
that
look.
L
That's
looking
to
host
a
fundraiser
in
evanston
we'd
like
to
keep
them
here
so,
given
the
amount
of
revenue
that
it
accounts
for
the
estimate
is
two
thousand
eight
hundred
fifty
dollars.
I
would
not
support
this
and
suggest
that
you
vote
no
on
this
one
thanks,
alderman.
I
L
I
I
would
definitely
suggest
you
vote
yes,
because
the
only
reason
this
license
is
taken
out
is
because
they're
selling
that
liquor,
so
they
can
add
the
tax
to
the
price
of
the
liquor.
But
you
know
every
penny
counts
in
this
town.
I-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
privilege
to
have
a
one-day
liquor
license
and
I
think,
given
the
small
amount
of
money
that
we're
asking
them
to
pay-
and
they
are
not
the
only
ones
paying
that
it
certainly
is
fair
and
they
are
selling
the
liquor,
so
they
can
add
to
them.
C
I
C
N
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
p3,
ordinance
48-0-12,
granting
major
zoning
relief
for
front
yard,
foot
park,
front
yard
parking
and
a
rear
yard
set
back
at
2627
lincolnwood
drive
would
move,
suspend.
I
would
ask
to
suspend
the
rules
first
for.
C
City
clerk.
Would
you
call
her
alderman
fisk
sorry.
B
E
No
there's
no
construction.
Obviously
there
is-
and
they
did
not
anticipate,
that
this
was
even
a
possibility,
but
they've
been
to
a
pretty
laborious
process
and
have
made
presentations
all
the
way
up
from
spark
through
zoning
and
had
sort
of
an
incomplete
result
at
zoning.
They
have
been
really
diligent
in
their
effort
to
pursue
this.
There's
no
question
in
my
mind
that
this
site
is
appropriate
for
variance
there
are.
This
is
not
one
that
I
typically
like
or
or
approve,
but
once
in
a
while,
a
site
does
come
along.
E
That
just
has
no
other
alternative,
and
this
is
one
of
those.
So
I
would
really
like
to
give
them
the
advantage
of
not
having
to
come
back
another
night
and
I
think
there
have.
Certainly
the
issue
has
been
aired
at
many
levels
in
great
detail
and
they
have
as
you've
seen
your
packet
neighborhood
support,
and
I
don't
see
any
reason
not
to
suspend
the
rules
and
get
it
approved
tonight.
B
I'm
going
to
object
to
suspension
of
the
rules,
I'm
I'm
sorry,
but
it's.
It
is
something
that
I
think
is
important.
It
gives
the
entire
community
an
opportunity
to
know
that
the
vote
is
coming
up
and
given
the
vote
of
the
of
zba
and
the
fact
that
it's
two
major
major
variations,
I
I
think
that's
it's
appropriate
to
give
the
community
that
chance.
N
Ordinance
39-0-12
amending
portions
of
the
zoning
ordinance
related
to
home
occupations.
I
would
I'm
trying
to
remember.
I
know
I
know
what
I
need
to
do.
Okay,
we
will
introduce
it
for
introduction
tonight.
However,
the
committee,
we
had
a
big
discussion
on
it
and
we
also
made
a
recommendation
to
the
staff
to
further
look
into.
N
The
economic,
economic
development
staff
and
the
legal
staff
and
the
business
license
staff
to
determine
the
best
ways
to
license
other
commercial
businesses
that
are
not
currently
currently
licensed
by
the
city
of
evanston,
because
it
affects
more
than
just
what
has
been
outlined
in
this
in
this
ordinance.
So
the
staff
has
been
referenced
for
that.
So
that
was
the
action
that
was
taken
on
this,
but
we
did
go
move
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
it
tonight.
N
Then
p5
we
had
a
lot
of
stuff
tonight:
p5
ordinance,
38-0,
amended
various
portions
of
the
city
code
relating
to
bread
and
breakfast
establishment.
N
We
took
that
off
because
there
were
several
recommendations
that
needed
to
be
made
that
went
back
to
committee,
we're
holding
that
in
the
committee.
We
did
talk
about
distance,
I
think
of
having
the
staff
to
no.
We
recommended
500
feet.
We
voted
on
500
feet
of
distance.
We
talked
about
re,
having
the
staff
three
word
and
we
look
at
the
special
event
section
I
believe,
is
29
and
also
to
rework
the
section
that
dealt
with
kitchen
additions.
E
C
L
You,
madam
mayor,
well,
we
did
discuss
this
human
services
committee
and
we
discussed
somehow
I
remember
asking
for
the
two
options:
selling
it
building
only
or
building
plus
land
and
came
out
of
committee
just
building
only.
But
I
am
very
supportive
of
issuing
a
request
for
interest
for
either
one
of
two
options.
C
B
I
would
further
suggest
that
if
we
find
ourselves
in
the
situation
where
we
do
not
have
a
prospective
purchaser
for
just
the
building,
that
we
look
at
entering
into
an
option
for
purchase
when
that
particular
developer
sells
the
property
so
that
we
actually
have
a
right
of
first
refusal
and
an
offer
to
purchase
back
the
property
at
that
time.
B
I
Madame
mayor,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
why
we
would
even
consider
selling
the
the
improvement
without
the
land
under
it.
So
I
think
that
should
be.
I
I
like
your
idea,
though,
if
the
second
time
it
goes
gets
turned
over,
but
why
why
would
we
not
sell
the
land
with
it
it?
I
can
just
see
the
same
story
as
with
1817
church.
It
could
go
on
for
years.
You
think
you've
got
a
brilliant
idea,
you're
going
to
issue
a
request
for
interest
proposal,
etc.
I
E
K
Yes,
ma'am,
I
just
want
to
be
clear
as
to
what
we're
asking
so
we're
asking
we're
going
to
offer
options
through
this
request
for
interest
either
for
the
lease
of
the
building.
The
lease
of
the,
which
would
include
the
land,
the
sale
of
the
building
or
the
sale
of
the
building
and
the
land
or
we
are
or
is,
is
the
build
as
the
sale
of
the
building
without
the
land.
Now
off
the
table.
I
E
I'd
like
to
move
approval
of
the
request
for
interest
for
the
harley
clark
mansion,
including
options
for
purchase
of
the
of
the
buildings
and
purchase
of
the
land
and
buildings
that
the
land
that
they
sit
on.
As,
as
you
know,
in
a
range
of
options
for
a
purchaser.
C
Thank
you,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed,
emotion,
passes.
C
Right,
that
concludes
alderman
rainey.
I
Anime,
I'm
sorry.
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
last
item.
Okay,
how
is
that
property
zoned
as
open
space?
Yes,
and
then
you
know,
I
would
really
like
to
see
this.
The
paperwork
before
it
gets
put
in
the
mail
to
potential
interested
parties.
How?
How
are
we
going
to?
How
are
we
going
to
promote
this
if
it's
zoned
open
space
that.
K
K
It's
on
page
three
of
the,
but
we
can
move
it
to
page
one
as
well
and
as
far
as
advertising
madame
remembers
the
council.
What
our
plan
is
is
that
we
would
place
advertisements
in
local
newspapers,
we'd
also
place
an
informational
sign
on
the
property.
K
Again,
if
you'd
like
to
see
the
sign
and
the
ads
we
can
circulate
those,
I
think
mr
mcrae
is
taking
the
lead.
I've
seen
some
signs
sitting
in
his
office
that
we
use
for
notices
for
public
hearings.
So
these
are
not
a
large.
I
think
we're
just
looking
to
mr
mccray
correct
me.
K
If
I'm
wrong
we're
just
looking
to
use
those
signs
with
a
different
kind
of
text
on
them
and
then
the
advertisements,
I
think
we
were
thinking
of
quarter
page
simple,
display
ads
in
the
in
the
round
table
in
the
review
for
that,
but
we'll
make
copies
of
those
of
the
text
of
those
available.
As
you
like.
B
K
Again,
alderman
fist,
members
of
the
council,
what
we've
tried
to
do
with
this,
and
it's
detailed
under
section.
One
of
the
proposal
says
the
intent
of
this
request
of
interest
is
to
identify
a
qualified,
purchaser
or
lessee
to
renovate
and
or
and
use
the
existing
structure.
The
selected
purchaser
lessee
must
have
the
necessary
financial
capabilities
to
complete
this
project.
K
The
objective
is
to
track
the
user
that
builds
upon
the
inherent
strengths.
The
site
will
maintain
historic
character
of
the
surrounding
existing
uses,
so
I
think
we're
leaving
it
open
at
this
point
under
the
request
of
interest,
then,
once
the
council
sees
what
those
interests
are,
I
think
we
would
flesh
out
more
details
in
a
request
for
proposal.
C
I
C
M
L
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
I
move
resolution
40-r-12
city
of
evanston's
support
of
a
constitutional
amendment
to
effectively
overturn
the
u.s
supreme
court's
conclusion
in
citizens,
united
against
fec,
relating
to
constitutional
rights
for
corporate
entities,
and
I
have
some
amendments.
Is
there
a
second?
Second,
I
propose
amendments
consistent
with
those
suggested
by
mr
smith
and
mr
mcauliffe,
with
whom
this
originated.
I've
spoken
with
him
and
he's
fine
with
this.
L
And
finally,
in
section
two,
if
you
are
you
following
me,
still
awake
section
two,
the
word
proposed
at
the
very
end
would
be
replaced
by
the
word
sponsored
that's
what
I'm
looking
for.
So
it
would
read.
The
the
evanston
city
council
supports
efforts
to
effectively
overturn
the
u.s
united
states
supreme
court's
ruling
in
citizens,
united
against
federal
election
commission,
including
the
constitutional
amendment
sponsored
by
u.s.
Senator
dick
durbin
from
illinois,
thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
there's
a
second.
It's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
congratulations
all
right
now.
I
believe
we
really
are
done
and
we
are
at
call
of
the
awards.
Alderman
births.
H
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
I
just
want
to
send
out
a
congratulations
to
maple
khan
and
aaron.
Hellman
maple's
from
the
ninth
ward
and
aaron
is
from
the
seventh
ward
about
their
their
award
from
the
kiwanis
evanston
kiwanis
club
that
they'll
be
receiving
tomorrow
morning
bright
and
early
at
7
00
a.m.
At
eths.
B
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
I
want
to
renew
a
reference
I
made
to
human
services
some
months
ago
to
amend
the
public
place
names
so
that
not-for-profit
organizations,
including
churches,
can
be
eligible
to
be
qualified
for
a
a
public
place
name
and
a
street
sign.
I
would
like
to
do
that
for
the
second
baptist
church,
so
I
would
appreciate
it
if
that
could
be
on
the
next
human
services
agenda,
because
we've
been
waiting
now
for
three
months.
M
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
first,
I
just
would
like
to
thank
the
council
for
their
support
of
the
that
was
that
interesting
vote.
The
support
for
chicago
chicken
and
waffle.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
staff
paul's
album
zach.
It
looks
like
everyone
left
steve
nancy
for
all
their
input.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
project
not
only
for
the
neighborhood
the
award,
but
also
for
evanston,
it's
just
a
great
collaboration
of
the
city,
evanston
first
bank
and
trust
as
well
as
the
owners
having
skin
in
the
game.
M
I
want
to
respond
to
alderman
rainey's
referral.
I
do
agree
that
every
penny
counts
and
this
week
I
would
invite
you
to
attend
our
mw.
Ebe
committee.
We
will
have
an
opportunity
to
review
the
20
000
and
under
spend,
and
I'm
looking
forward
not
only
to
hearing
that
report
on
wednesday,
even
but
also
bringing
that
information
back
to
council.
M
U
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
I
would
like
to
thank
everyone
who
came
out
to
the
third
ward
meeting.
Despite
the
hailstorm,
I
thought
it
was
just
going
to
be
the
city
manager,
officer,
whitehead
and
me
at
the
meeting,
but
we
had
wally
says
75.
I
say
100
people
there
and
despite
soaking
rain,
I
won,
and
it
was
an
excellent
meeting,
with
a
great
turnout
with
a
lot
of
good
questions.
U
N
Yes,
just
like
to
invite
everyone,
if
you're
still
awake
out
there
fifth
waters,
the
regular
ward
meeting
is
on
this
thursday
at
7
pm
at
fleetwood,
jourdain,
and
also
to
remind
those
of
you
who
joined
us
last
year
that
the
first
prayer
visual
for
a
safe
summer
will
happen
on
saturday,
the
19th
at
springfield
at
I'm.
Looking
at
joe,
I
think
it's
10
o'clock
is
that
correct
at
10
a.m.
I
believe
it
is
starting
at
springfield
baptist
church
at
emerson
and
daryl.
I
Mayor
and
everyone
out
there,
I
just
want
to
congratulate
all
those
amazing
police
officers
who
received
awards
the
other
night.
You
know
when
we
complain
about
them,
don't
they
have
anything
better
than
to
do
than
to
ticket
our
cars?
When
you
see
all
the
things
that
they're
doing
when
they're,
not
ticketing,
our
cars
they're
much
safer
ticketing,
our
cars,
so
it
was
just
amazing
some
of
the
things
that
they
did
and
tracy
williams
was
awarded
the
officer
of
the
year,
which
is
just
wonderful.
C
J
Do,
pursuant
to
five
illinois
compiled
statutes,
ilcs
2a,
I
moved
the
city
council
convened
into
executive
session
to
discuss
agenda
items
regarding
personnel,
collective
bargaining
litigation
and
minutes.
These
agenda
items
are
permitted
subjects
to
be
considered
an
executive
session
and
our
enumerated
exceptions
under
the
open
meetings
act.
These
exceptions
are
five
ilcs
120,
slash,
2a,
c1,
c2,
c11
and
c21.