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From YouTube: Special City Council Meeting - 12/07/09
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Special City Council Meeting
Administration & Public Works Committee
Monday, December 7, 2009
6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers
Lorraine H. Morton Civic Center
2100 Ridge Avenue
Evanston, IL
A
B
C
D
D
D
This
is
leamons
first
day,
he
comes
to
us
and
this
is
early
leaving.
So
just
so
you
know
leaving
comes
to
us
from
the
city
of
University
City
Missouri,
just
outside
of
st.
Louis
outside
of
Washington
University
in
st.
Louis,
and
was
there
Director
of
Community
Development
for
a
number
of
years.
So
we're
very
pleased
to
have
both
grant
and
Lehman
join
our
executive
team.
C
E
E
This
district
is
a
long-term
budget
recommendation,
not
a
short-term
budget
recommendation.
We
know
that
it
will
take
years
to
complete
such
a
task,
but
the
goals
are
pretty
simple.
The
primary
goal
of
this
proposal
is
to
create
a
revenue
producing
evanston
owned
district
on
the
lakefront
to
offset
the
growing
need
for
property
tax
increases.
A
companion
goal
is
to
expand
evidence,
cultural
heritage
and
promote
evanston
as
a
point
of
destination
for
visitors
interested
in
the
finest
of
performing
arts
facilities
for
all
of
evanston's
charm,
wonderful,
restaurants
and
retail
and
other
wealth.
E
Welcoming
aspects
of
the
community.
Evanston
is
not
a
destination
that
distant
visitors
choose.
We
may
attract
local
visitors,
but
we
don't
have
enough
of
the
travelers
who
come
from
other
cities
or
other
states.
Evanston
needs
a
lure
to
attract
visitors
from
across
the
nation.
Evenson
needs
an
attraction,
a
reason
for
people
to
go
out
of
their
way
to
schedule
a
weekend
trip
or
vacation
in
evanston
with
Evanston
as
their
chosen
destination.
E
The
proposed
district
is
not
intended
to
be
a
substitute
or
to
eliminate
any
existing
downtown
restaurants,
hotels,
retail
or
theaters.
Rather,
the
goal
is
to
study
the
new
districts
permitted,
uses
and
size
and
size
them
accordingly
to
complement
existing
evidence
facilities.
The
desire
is
that
once
a
visitor
arrives
in
Evanston,
they'll
need
and
desire
to
explore
the
downtown
and
everything
else
Evanston
has
to
offer
the
revenue
producing
permitted
uses.
E
Ownership
is
clearly
that
of
evanston
of
evanston
may
choose
to
partner
with
someone
else
like
wilmette
or
possibly,
even
northwestern
would
be
interested
in
considering
some
amenities
that
they
could
contribute
towards,
as
far
as
who
would
who
this
development
would
benefit.
The
intended
benefit
again
is
thank.
E
I'm
skipping
ahead
tax
tax
relief
for
evidence
of
owners
it
would,
it
would
certainly
benefit
local
retail
hospitality,
restaurants
and
other
businesses
already
in
evanston.
The
general
fund
would
benefit
a
series
of
evanston's.
Fine
art
and
cultural
organizations
would
benefit.
There
would
be
additional
demands
on
public
parking
facilities
already
in
existence.
E
Forestry
department
would
gain
more
ground.
I
would
not
have
to
fire
people
that
they
could
actually
hire.
People
Community,
Development
Department
would
need
to
hire
people
and
not
lay
them
off,
and
this
would
be
a
365-day
facility
rather
than
a
three
month
three
month
use
of
the
existing
beaches
on
the
lakefront.
E
C
E
F
G
H
I
Thank
you.
I
want
to
dress
up
two
topics:
jeff
smith,
2724
harrison.
First,
going
back
to
the
waste
discussion
of
a
pw
committee.
Refuse
by
the
pound
is
a
progressive
idea
that
dis
incentivizes
consumption
and
it
drives
consumers
to
demand
less
packaging.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
go
for
the
city.
A
counter
consideration
with
regard
to
outsourcing
is
that
a
common
stimulus
program
is
a
jobs
program
and
it
stands
to
reason
that,
if
we're
talking
about
possibly
eliminating
jobs,
that
amounts
to
potentially
an
anti
stimulus.
I
So
I
would
like
to
see
how
many
of
the
jobs
to
be
eliminated
are
our
neighbors
in
evanston,
because
they
can
have
ripple
effects
if,
in
the
interest
of
ostensibly
cutting
general
revenue,
we
end
up
causing
foreclosures
and
bankruptcies
in
our
own
neighborhood.
Third,
with
regard
to
the
question
of
yard
waste
I,
don't
even
like
the
term
I
prefer
to
think
of
it
as
sequestered
carbon
in
in
a
tree
city.
There
is
some
irony
that
we
would
charge
the
people
who
are
in
essence
maintaining
our
urban
forest.
I
If
we're
going
to
put
a
sticker
program
out
and
distribute
waste
bins,
I
would
suggest
that
we
also
distribute
compost,
bins
and
encourage
people
in
the
strongest
possible
way
to
be
turning
that
sequestered
carbon
into
reusable
soil,
and
one
thing
we
might
do
is
eliminate
some
of
the
requirements
that
people
mow
their
lawns.
It
seems
ironic
to
pass
a
law
and
force
people
to
mow
their
lawns
and
then
charge
them
for
doing
so.
I
With
regard
to
the
lakefront
proposals,
I've
been
obviously
a
proponent
for
many
years
of
fine
arts
and
Performing
Arts
in
Evanston,
in
particular,
the
lack
of
live
music
venues
and
I
think
we
should
take
note
of
the
success
of
the
space
space
as
it
were
down
in
Chicago
Avenue,
which
has
really
filled
a
void
and
a
deficit
in
in
South
Evanston
has
been
wonderfully
successful.
That
said,
I'm
a
little
leery
of
landfill
I
brought
a
lawsuit
to
stop
a
landfill.
A
little
further
down
the
lake.
I
There's
a
lot
of
problems
ranging
from
environmental
to
invasion
of
the
public
trust
doctrine
with
putting
any
type
of
material
in
the
lake
to
create
land
and
any
pure
promontory
jetty.
That
you
put
out
there
tends
to
interrupt
the
littoral
li
TT
RAL
drift
and
cause
further
erosion
further
south
of
anything
that
you
build.
So
we'd
have
to
be
extraordinarily
careful
on
that
and
I
suspect
that
the
sentiment
of
the
neighborhood
in
the
community
would
be
against
any
type
of
marina.
I
That
said,
the
lakefront
does
belong
to
everybody,
so
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
maximize
this
asset
in
this
resource
for
the
good
of
the
entire
community.
My
preference
would
be
that
we
maximize
it
in
a
natural
way
and
keeping
in
mind
that,
even
though
we're
in
tough
economic
times
you
you
don't
in
tough
economic
times,
start
getting
rid
of
the
necessities
and
what
makes
your
home
a
home
once
we
give
a
way
of
public
asset,
it's
almost
impossible
to
get
it
back.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
Good
evening
mayor
just
on
members
of
the
council,
I'm
Donna
Gerson,
I
live
at
200,
Lee,
Street
and
I'm,
chair
of
the
Friends
of
the
South
Branch
and
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
branch
libraries
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
the
south
branch
is
located
in
the
densest.
Oh
okay,
okay,
south
branch
is
located
in
the
densest
part
of
the
city,
and
this
service,
which
is
one
of
the
few
city
services
that
is
located
in
our
area,
is
a
very,
very
important
one.
J
For
those
of
you
who
have
not
visited
the
branch
libraries
I
urge
you
to
do
so.
They
they're
very
different
from
the
main
library.
They
have
a
different
atmosphere
and
they
have
a
different
clientele.
It's
a
very
intimate
atmosphere.
The
staff
which
and
we've
been
very
fortunate
always
to
have
wonderful
staff
at
South
Branch,
but
they
really
nurture
the
users
of
the
library.
J
It's
a
very
personal
relationship,
and
it
is
it's
not
the
research
library,
but
it
is
one
that
is
very,
very
important
to
the
neighborhood
very
important
to
mothers
of
young
children
very
important
to
older
people
who
walk
to
that
library.
The
library
also
provides
services
to
the
students
at
Park
School
to
the
students
at
washington
and
lincoln
schools
as
well.
J
The
community
supports
the
libraries
overall
generously,
as
we
know,
from
our
fund
for
excellence
contributions,
but
also
specifically
at
South
Branch.
We've
received
really
marvelous
gifts
from
an
anonymous
donor,
who
gave
us
a
subscription
to
the
new
york
times,
so
it
would
be
available
for
our
users
also
gave
a
computer
that
was
valued
at
about
a
thousand
dollars.
We
have
volunteers
who
help
with
the
work
the
branches,
the
two
branches
together
account
for
approximately
seventeen
percent
of
usage
at
the
library's
southbridge,
is
over
90
years
old.
J
It
is
an
institution
that
is
very
important
to
evanston.
It
has
been
in
that
same
general
location
for
90
years,
South
Branch
created
two
outposts
where
we
place
books
that
have
been
donated
to
the
library,
XS
books
and
and
they're
free
and
they're
stamped
as
a
gift
from
South
Branch,
and
these
are
at
the
metro
station
and
at
the
coffee,
coffee,
the
something
brothers,
the
brothers
coffee
house
at
at
main
and
Chicago.
J
Let's
see
at
those
places,
we
also
point
post
information
about
the
library
usage
is
up
at
all
of
the
libraries,
but
it
is
up
even
more
at
the
branch
libraries,
and
especially
at
South
Branch,
where
for
September
of
2009,
our
usage
was
forty
percent
over
the
usage,
the
previous
September,
when
we
know
libraries
are
being
used
more
at
this
time
of
economic
down
door
turn,
but
in
the
branches
it
has
really
really
been
remarkable.
I
think
the
branch
libraries
embody
values
that
are
important
to
evanston
to
all
of
us.
J
D
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
council,
you
directed
staff
back
in
September
to
move
forward
with
the
community
budget
process
and
that
process
has
now
come
to
a
conclusion.
We
brought
in
a
very
able
facilitator
Lynn.
Is
it
Monty
or
Monty
Monty
to
come
and
facilitate?
This
Lynn
has
a
lot
of
experience
working
with
local
governments,
not
necessarily
so
much
on
the
North
Shore,
but
really
in
other
areas
throughout
the
Chicagoland
area.
D
A
A
Think
that
the
reason
for
appreciation-
and
thanks
is
because,
as
you
and
extend
such
an
invitation,
you
also
facilitate
or
help
facilitate
an
alignment
between
the
policy-making
of
the
community,
the
delivery
of
services
in
the
community
and
the
values
and
priorities
of
residents.
And
so
this
whole
process
seems
to
have
represented
and
I
think
actually
does
embody.
A
The
department,
directors
and
staff,
all
of
them
very
responsive,
quantifying
ideas
and
suggestions,
doing
a
lot
of
analysis
for
us
and
also
their
presence
at
all
of
those
meetings
and
the
logistics
folks
who
worked
with
our
facilities,
the
operational
aspects,
AV
website
and
their
presence,
all
the
technical
people.
It's
all
very
much
appreciated
by
all
of
the
participants.
A
So
well,
we
started
out.
Let
me
see
here
we
started
out
with
a
context
that
all
cities
are
required
by
law
to
annually
develop
a
balanced
budget,
and
this
city
faces
a
projected
eight
million
dollar
deficit
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
as
we
know,
which
begins
March
first
and
must
develop
and
adopt
a
balanced
budget.
Okay.
A
So
that
is
the
context,
and
you
know
I
begin
with
this
PowerPoint
presentation,
always
with
the
reprimand
on
the
part
of
one
of
my
teachers,
who
said,
be
careful
using
power
points,
because
the
power
can
be
in
the
power
point
rather
than
where
I
think
it
needs
to
belong,
which
is
in
again.
The
engagement
of
these
community
residents,
who,
both
in
in
person
and
also
in
online
participation,
really
did
grapple
with
the
same
issues
that
this
council
grapples
with
and
I.
A
Think
they
really
did
take
that
job
very
seriously
in
an
intention
to
partner
with
you.
So
the
concept
of
this
process
was
to
engage
in
facilitate
the
public
and
staff
and
for
the
purpose
of
generating
these
ideas,
hopefully
in
an
informed
way,
in
order
to
meet
that
requirement
of
the
balanced
budget
and
also
to
maintain
the
integrity
and
quality
of
city
services
to
the
great
greatest
degree
possible.
A
What
were
the
desired
outcomes
of
that
process?
Well,
obviously,
to
generate
the
suggestions,
we're
going
to
be
presenting
you
tonight
and
think
about
delivery
of
services
efficiently,
effectively
economically
to
surface
ideas
around
these
several
categories,
which
you
probably
have
seen
in
the
data
about
cost
containment,
possible
changes
in
service
delivery,
the
notions
of
efficiency,
maybe
noon
on
tax
revenues
and
also
potential
other
general
revenue
ideas
and
then,
of
course,
to
hear
the
opinions
about
municipal
service
priorities
after
this
was
determined.
The
city
engaged
lynn
monte
associates
to
facilitate
the
process.
A
A
Participants
online
could
review
all
of
the
orientation
materials
that
were
presented
at
the
first
workshop,
including
powerpoints
and
other
documents.
They
could
read
all
the
documents
we
generated
in
the
process
they
could
offer
questions
they
could
respond
to
question
prompts
that
participants
in
the
workshops
actually
responded
to.
They
could
view
video
recordings
and
they
could
also,
in
the
end
vote
for
their
five
most
favored
recommendations.
A
We
also
had
staff
participation
and
the
staff
participation
was
a
very
intensive
process
that
took
place
in
late
October
in
early
November,
where
department
level
workshops
were
held.
They
were
convened
by
employees
by
department,
however
facilitated
by
a
different
department.
Director
and
again,
they
generated
suggestions
for
efficiency,
cost
containment
and
other
innovations,
22
pages
worth
of
suggestions,
all
of
which
are
in
a
document
and
posted
on
the
website
for
anyone
to
be
able
to
review,
and
that
document
was
referred
to
very
extensively
by
the
workshop
participants.
A
So
here
are
a
few
statistics
on
our
participation
that
the
in-person
participation
was
at
four
different
venues
and
I
will
go
over
those
venues
in
a
moment,
but
participation
in
workshop,
one
at
81
workshop
228
with
12
observers,
workshop
325
participants
with
14
observers
and
workshop
for
our
final
workshop
that
just
took
place
last
week.
Last
Monday
for
with
33
participants
online.
D
Lynne,
perhaps
I
can
say
how
you
get
to
invalid
entries.
We
have
a
very
smart
web
developer
here
on
our
staff
and
she
was
able
to
tell
multiple
voters
by
their
Internet,
Protocol
or
IP
address,
so
if
people
voted
more
than
once,
she
took
them
out.
That
was
something
that
the
council,
if
you
recall,
we
first
talked
about
this
one.
To
make
sure
we
made
that
there
was
not
multiple
voting
and
so
Eric
Australia
of
our
information
technology
division
did
an
excellent
job
of
that.
A
So
the
four
workshops
were
held
in
different
venues
over
a
period
of
a
month
time
they
anyone
could
attend
workshop
one
or
any
of
the
workshops,
but
participation
as
a
participant
in
workshops
to
whoops.
I
see
I
miss
numbered
the
workshops
there,
obviously
they're
supposed
to
be
two
three
and
four
those
those
three
workshops
could
only
be.
A
A
One
was
about
orientation,
we
heard
a
presentation
from
the
assistant
city
manager,
about
city
budget,
got
a
kind
of
a
101
kind
of
an
orientation,
and
then
we
heard
from
every
department
director
with
a
PowerPoint
presentation
and
along
with
that
experience,
we
had
participants
in
small
groups,
determine
what
their
questions
of
understanding
were
and
posed
those
questions
to
the
directors
and
to
Marty
and
were
able
to
get
some
response
from
that
experience.
So
38
questions
were
generated
them
in
that
first
workshop
and
all
of
that
went
into
building
the
kind
of
credential
for
the
participation.
A
The
second
workshop
was
about
about
setting
context
and
developing
a
frame
of
reference
for
the
participants.
What
I
mean
by
that
is
that
they
they
examined
more
than
what
is
it
about
city
operations?
They
went
into
an
engagement
with
each
other
in
a
conversation
and
dialogue
about
what's
important
to
us
about
this
city.
What
do
we
want
to
honor
about
our
past?
Why
is
this
city
meaningful
to
me
and
what
are
my
values,
priorities
and
essential
attributes?
I
think
in
2010-2011.
We
need
to
remember
when
we're
generating
ideas
and
making
our
selections.
A
The
third
workshop
was
about
idea
generation
and
then
the
fourth
was
the
discernment
process
and
selection.
So
here
these
workshops
are
again
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
we're
at
the
orientation
we
got
the
overview.
We
also
had
the
opportunity
for
questions
in
workshop
to
the
frame
of
reference
dialogue
and
sharing
about
the
city's
purpose,
effectiveness,
values,
priorities
and
essential
attributes.
A
A
We
had
generated
in
workshop
three
again,
the
group's
convened
in
dialogue
circles
and
at
as
a
during
that
process
determined
what
they
should
select
as
the
universe
of
options
for
their
voting
process.
In
other
words,
there
were
many
pages
of
ideas.
Some
of
them
were
too
vague
and
not
quantifiable
and
folks
knew
better
than
to
say
well
we're
going
to
try
to
vote
for
some
of
these.
A
For
you
know
the
development
of
us
of
a
sound
and
really
well
well
run
quality
of
life
community.
They
were
generous
with
their
time.
Obviously,
the
the
processes
themselves
were
a
minimum
of
13
and
a
half
hours.
If
you
attended
all
the
workshops
very
serious
and
their
desire
to
be
of
guidance
to
you,
it
was
challenging
to
create
high
potential
offerings
and
enough
of
them
to
close
this
budget
gap
and
many
of
the
ideas
as
I
said.
We're
very
conceptual
and
not
easily
quantifiable.
A
In
the
timeframe
we
had
I
think
it's
also
very
true
that
it's
far
easier
to
react
to
somebody
else's
ideas
than
it
is
to
be
in
the
seat
of
creativity
and
create
your
own
and
to
be
able
to
stand
up
and
say
this
is
what
I
stand
for
and
I
think
that
people
actually
grappled
with
that,
because
you
know
the
the
government
process.
All
often
is
one
where,
although
input
is
invited,
reaction
is
really
more
common,
and
so
this
was
really
I.
A
These
are
going
to
be
difficult
to
read
and
may
be
impossible,
but
we
will
capture
just
the
high
level
ones
in
the
few
remaining
slides
that
follow
so
first
at
workshop
results,
we
had
33
people
who
participated
in
the
fourth
workshop,
which
was
the
one
that
where
people
were
able
to
cast
their
votes
and
the
highest
number
of
votes
for
any
single
selection
was
12.
However,
many
of
these
were
worded
very
similarly
and
because
time
was
of
the
essence,
we
did
not
remove
the
redundancies
when
we
began
the
voting.
A
One
with
reduced
operations
of
the
Civic
Center
to
afford
a
week
and
okay
cut
management
is
another
one,
and
so
there
there
were
several
of
them
that
relate
to
personnel
matters
again
in
the
next
couple
of
slides.
You
will
see
these
in
greater
size,
so
they
will
be
able
to
be
read
for
online
polling
results.
A
Likewise,
although
we
had
a
thousand
three
votes
cast,
the
the
one
that
garnered
the
most
votes
actually
was
to
close
the
township
office
and
move
it
to
the
Civic
Center
at
six
hundred
and
fifty
votes
selling
water
to
more
communities
at
4,
12,
consolidating
social
service
agencies
at
three
ninety,
and
then
we
get
to
a
number
of
these
examining
personnel
costs
which,
by
the
time
all
of
those
are
totaled,
they
actually
result
in
the
highest
level
of
votes
cast.
So
let's
take
a
look
now
at
these
in
a
more
readable
form.
A
This
is
a
comparison
of
the
workshop
and
the
online
results.
The
purple
color
is
the
result
of
the
workshop
as
a
percentage
of
total
votes
per
category
personnel
matters
reductions
and
cuts
in
personnel
actually
ranked
the
highest
of
all
of
the
recommendations.
In
both
the
workshop
and
the
online
poll.
The
next
area.
A
Priorities
as
the
guide
for
this
particular
slide
in
the
next
slide,
you
will
see
the
pole
as
the
priority.
In
this
case
the
solid
waste
recycling
and
yard
waste
issues
was
ranked
second,
the
township
moving
to
the
civic
center
third
selling,
more
water.
Fourth,
closing
branch,
libraries-
and
we
did
collapse
these,
so
I
know
that
one
of
the
choices
was
to
close
one
branch,
library
and
the
other
was
to
close
both,
but
this
process
did
not
allow
us
to
differentiate
at
that
final
level.
That
will
obviously
be
worked
out
in
your
budget
process.
A
Should
that
be
a
choice
that
you
decide
to
make
selling
parking
the
parking
garage
garages
or
using
parking
passes
was
next
and
closing
the
fires.
One
of
the
fire
stations
was
the
next.
There
were
several
more
that
fell
off,
VIN
numbers.
I
thought
I
would
give
you
just
the
highest
level
ranked
once
again.
This
one
is
from
the
workshop
in
the
polling
results.
I
don't
have
this
on
a
on
a
chart
for
you,
but
this
was
the
descending
order
of
results
from
the
pole
again
to
cut
personnel.
A
Related
costs
moved
the
township
offices
at
civic
center.
The
solid
weight
collection
of
solid
waste
issues,
selling
water
to
more
communities,
consolidating
social
services
and
increasing
employee
benefits
contributions
on
all
of
these.
You
know
the
the
universe
of
of
ideas
was
fixed
and
these
all
ranked
fairly
high
on
both
lists,
and
you
will
be
able
to
weed
through
and
sort
through
this
data
at
your
leisure
in
the
budget
process.
I'm
sure
these
are
the
workshop
results
from
the
two
sources.
So,
in
conclusion,.
A
Was
very
I
think
it
was
very
complimentary
and
it
was
very
much
appreciated,
as
I
mentioned,
it
did
seem
to
increase
awareness
of
the
importance
of
the
city,
its
services
and
also
the
understanding
of
what
it
costs
to
deliver
service
to
to
fulfill
all
the
operations.
Commitments
that
you
have
and
to
take
care
of
the
capital
needs
that
you
have
so
I
think
that
that
was
you
know
a
side
benefit
that
probably
was
not
even
anticipated
in
originally
that
the
community
definitely
is
a
willing
partner.
A
They
love
to
be
invited
and
I
encourage
you
to
do
that
more
and
on
their
behalf.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
the
community
to
be
of
service
to
its
itself
and
I.
Also,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
of
service.
It's
really
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
the
city
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
I
can't
answer.
If
you
should
have
any.
K
Thank
you
very
much,
ms
Monty,
for
taking
us
through
the
process.
Thank
You
mr.
babka
wits
for
putting
us
in
this
place.
I
think
the
feedback,
both
from
the
workshops
from
the
online
polling
and
I
hope
from
the
community
budget
workshops
in
january-february,
will
be
as
helpful
as
as
this
information
is.
My
question
for
you
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
participants
from
the
88
people
who
came
to
the
first
workshop
to
every
single
person
who
kept
showing
up
for
those
13
and
a
half
hours
of
discussion
and
feedback
on
our
budget
process.
K
K
A
Don't
have
any
documentation
about
the
fire
station
closures
that
relates
to
safety.
This
is
there,
was
a
memorandum
prepared
and
it
was
used
by
the
participants.
I
was
not,
of
course,
seated
at
their
tables
and
unable
to
know
what
went
into
their
thinking
and
discernment
process.
I
heard
their
report
outs.
So
that
is
all
the
information
that
I
have.
There
may
be
others
who
can
answer
that
question.
However,
Thank.
C
D
City
manager,
yes,
madam
mayor
members,
the
counsel
of
his
miss
Monti
mentioned,
we
did
provide
some
feedback
to
questions
and
there
was
a
question
regarding
reduction
in
fire
department
service
and
that
information
is
prepared
in
the
packet
of
information.
That
was
a
summary
of
the
documents.
I
believe
you
have
that
it's
also
available
on
our
website.
D
I
will
be
making
a
communication
available
to
you
in
to
the
staff
on
Friday
December
the
18th
outlining
a
broad
overview
of
what
will
be
contained
in
the
proposed
budget.
We
will
then
take
the
remaining
two
weeks
to
prepare
the
the
usual
larger
budget
document
for
the
council's
review,
and
that
will
be
the
document
that
will
be
available
to
you
no
later
than
December
31.
We
passed
out
for
you
this
evening.
D
The
draft
a
budget
calendar
which
you
looked
at
several
months
ago
and
I
would
like
to
walk
through
it
just
to
confirm
of
the
council
of
that
remains
a
a
sequence
that
is
good
for
you.
The
first
workshop
is
proposed
to
be
on
january,
twenty
third
2010.
Those
are
just
have
been
saturday
workshops.
My
understanding
is
that
those
have
traveled
occasionally.
My
recommendation
to
the
council
would
be
to
have
that
workshop
here.
D
From
a
televising
perspective,
logistics
perspective,
this
room
is
probably
the
best
room
for
that,
then
on
februari,
one,
which
is
a
monday
evening,
I
believe
mr.
Lyons
we've
done
830.
So
that
would
begin
at
eight
thirty
here
in
the
council
chambers
than
a
public
hearing
on
the
budget.
A
special
council
meeting
then
to
be
scheduled
on
Monday
februari,
the
first.
D
If
the
council
required
a
channel
budget
workshop
or
budget
hearing
on
februari
three
and
then
we
would
ask
that
the
first
opportunity,
then
for
adoption
of
a
budget
would
be
at
your
first
regular
meeting
in
the
month
of
februari,
which
is
februari
eight,
then
your
second
meeting
in
the
month
of
februari
would
be
februari
22.
Certainly
if
you
wish
to
have
additional
meetings
called
during
this,
certainly.
E
D
The
only
option
I
would
offer
up
to
the
council
is
that
first
meeting
in
January,
looking
at
a
calendar
for
the
month
of
January
of
the
first
saturday,
is
the
second
of
January
many
people
who
likely
be
concluding
their
holidays
coming
back
from
a
victorious
bowl
game
in
tampa
florida
or
other
such
things.
So
there
was
also
be
the
ninth
of
january,
which
is
also
saturday.
The
16th
of
january
is
the
Martin
Luther
King
holiday
weekend,
the
23rd,
my
understanding
for
mr.
D
Lyons
has
been
sort
of
a
traditional
time
to
give
the
council
approximately
a
month
but
to
review
the
budget.
My
understanding
is
that
last
year
the
council
alternated
from
that
and
took
an
earlier
hearing
which
might
be
the
the
ninth
of
January
in
2010.
If
you
chose
to
do
that,
I
offer.
That
is
just
a
option
for
you
clearly
stand
under
a
statute
of
the
avastin
Municipal
Code.
We
need
to
have
this
done
by
februari
28,
but
I
would
mention
that
to
you.
Otherwise,
certainly,
your
staff
is
very
comfortable
with
the
draft
calendar
for
him.
D
G
City
manager
and
colleagues
I
think
waiting
till
january.
Twenty
third
is
way
too
late
to
start
discussing
the
budget,
and
I
would
really
prefer
that
we
begin
either
on,
and
I
know
we
probably
have
a
human
services
meeting
on
the
fourth,
but
I
think
the
second
should
be
a
workshop
and
maybe
a
short
meeting
on
the
fourth
or
the
fifth
or
the
sixth
I,
just
think
waiting
till
the
23rd.
G
This
is
not
going
to
be
routine
so,
and
we
have
many
new
members
of
the
council
who
have
never
deliberated
on
a
budget
and
well
they're
smarter
than
anybody.
It
still
is
a
it's
a
learning,
experience
and
I'm
still
trying
so
I
would
say.
I
would
say,
having
been
on
this
council
for
many
years,
the
23rd
is
way
too
late
to
begin
the
budget,
and
that's
just
my
suggestion.
Thank.
F
D
That
has
been
mind.
Sharing
a
traditional
calendar
I
understand
that
last
year
the
council
chose
to
do
an
earlier
workshop
and
I
think
looking
at
the
calendar,
we
would
suggest
the
first
saturday
in
january.
Do
this
would
be
the
ninth,
because
I
think
we
would
also
have
staff
the
way
already
on
the
second.
So
if
the
council
wish
to
do
the
ninth,
we
could
schedule
the
ninth.
We
could
leave
the
the
twenty-third
on
hold
if
the
council
felt
it
was
needed.
D
Perhaps
people
could
keep
that
date
blocked
on
their
calendar,
at
least
through
the
nine
you
keep
the
through
mom
and
then
we
can
keep
the
rest
of
the
calendar
as
is,
and
certainly
if
the
council
feels
additional
meetings
are
necessary.
You
have
a
practice
of
scheduling,
additional
meetings,
and
certainly
this.
G
G
D
G
H
D
So,
madam
mayor
will
be
prepared,
then
the
we
will
provide
general
information
to
the
staff
in
the
community.
A
week
from
this
Friday
on
the
eighteenth
of
December,
the
formal
document
will
be
out
on
the
31st
will
be
prepared
for
the
first
budget.
Workshop
presentation
on
the
ninth
will
have
the
23rd
available
and
then
we'll
follow
the
calendar,
and
if
additional
dates
need
to
be
scheduled,
we
will
be
prepared
to
make
presentations
as
appropriate.