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Description
The Participatory Budgeting Committee discusses how to form the steering committee and a timeline for doing so.
B
We
have
okay,
we
have
a
quorum,
so
we're
ready
to
get
the
meeting
started
with
that.
Let's
do
a
quick
roll
call
council,
member
newsma
here
councilmember
burns
here
and
councilman
reed
myself.
I
am
here
great.
We
have
a
quorum.
I
don't
think
mayor
bis
was
yes
correct
and
may
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
From
july.
Seventh,
the
move
moved
by
councilmember
nissman
thanked
by
council
member
burns,
all
those
in
favor
aye,
aye,
okay,
the
motion
passes.
B
So
the
only
thing
we
have
for
discussion
today
is
participatory
budgeting
committee
structure.
The
committee
we
should
discuss
if
council
members
should
be
on
the
steering
committee,
how
the
participatory
budgeting
committee
should
relate
to
the
steering
committee
and
how
to
establish
the
committee
as
an
official
public
body.
B
C
Sure
let
me
share
my
screen
real
quick.
Okay,
can
everyone
see
that.
D
C
Okay,
so
last
time
we
talked
about
combining
the
styrian
and
leadership
committees
together,
which
makes
sense
for
cities
of
our
size,
and
we
also
discussed
having
staff
and
council
members
on
the
stream
committee
and
we
think
that's
important,
because
we
need
that
expertise
to
develop
the
rule
book
both
in
terms
of
like
what
projects
are
arpa
eligible
and
then
also
just
for
general
representation
of
the
different
words
we
do
run
into
a
problem
though,
and
looking
so.
C
The
steering
committee
responsibilities
would
then
be
both
drafting
a
rule
book,
but
also
planning
events,
doing
outreach
and,
like
all
these
leadership
tasks
that
we're,
assuming
that
the
council,
members
don't
and
staff,
don't
have
time
to
do
so.
The
question's
really
like
do
the
council,
members
and
staff.
C
If
you
want
to
be
on
the
string
committee
have
time
to
do
all
the
leadership
tasks,
if
not
then,
and
what
we're
proposing
is
that
we
have
staff
and
council
members
involved
in
the
meetings
for
designing
the
rule
book
council
still
will
approve
the
rule
book,
but
they
not
be
official
members
of
the
steering
committee.
Otherwise
we
get
into
this
weird
space
where,
like
some
steering,
committees
have
to
do
some
responsibilities,
but
not
others,
and
it's
really
really
awkward
so
I'll
I'll
leave
it
at
that
and
see
what
people
think.
B
Yeah,
if
no
one
else
says
anything
I'll
jump
in
and
I'll
say
that
I
think
certainly
that
would
be
a
consideration
of
a
a
council
member
to
determine
if
they
are
able
to
make
their
commitment,
and
I
think
I
trust
everyone
to
to
either
make
the
commitment
or
not
make
the
commitment.
B
So
I
I
do
find
moving
forward
with
you
know.
I
think
we
agreed
that
we'd
allow
you
know
one
or
two
council
members
to
to
be
a
part
of
the
the
steering
committee.
E
And
tier
you're
saying
that
we
would
council
members
who
were
interested
would
be
kind
of
full
steering
committees
and
and
would
participate
in
in
all
the
outreach
and
other
activities.
B
E
B
We're
educating
everyone,
you
know
residents
and
you
know
everyone
else
on
what
their
responsibility
will
be.
I
think
folks
will
kind
of
self-select
at
that
point,
but
I
think
we
can
leave
the
door
open
for
now.
Yeah.
E
C
G
I
was
gonna
say
from
a
staff
standpoint.
I
I
am
perfectly
fine
not
being
on
the
committee.
In
fact,
I
think
staff
probably
should
not
be
what
my
interest
is
in
being
a
as
a
helper
role
in
in
helping
the
committee.
So
I
could
I
could
attend
meetings
and
and
provide
advice
on,
but
I
really
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
not
being
on
on
the
committee
itself,
because
I
and
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
community
members
opportunities
to
participate
plus
it
is
a
timing
thing.
G
A
Want
to
okay,
and
I
think
it
will
be
important
for
sarah
to
be
at
the
steering
committee
initial
one
as
they're
defining
the
rule
book,
if
you
will
so
that
you
can
interpret
what
they're
proposing
is
arpa-eligible
or
not.
So
in
that
aspect
I
think
sarah
has
a
role,
but
I
agree
that
she
doesn't
need
to
be
on
the
committee
and
then
we
we
also
have
to
we.
A
A
So
if
you
know,
if
you
have
a
special
committee
of
council
members
and
citizens,
the
city
shall
appoint
by
council
members
by
the
council,
the
rules
committee
or
by
the
mayor,
and
then
you
also
have
to
deal
with
who
the
committee
chair
is
and
if,
if
it's
committee
consisting
of
council
members
and
citizens
which
report
to
a
standing
committee,
she'll
have
the
citizen,
chair
elected
by
the
members
of
the
committee.
B
I
I
think
this
one
and
and
we're
going
to
move
down
the
line
to
the
you
know,
need
to
amend
the
rules,
but
to
jump
to
that
now
I
I
do
think
we'll
have
to
make
a
rules
amendment
either
way.
B
This
is
going
to
be
a
you
know,
a
fairly
unique
committee
with
a
fairly
unique
structure,
and
so
I
just
think
we
need
to
we'll
have
to
make
an
amendment
to
the
rules
regardless,
and
I
think
the
committee
you
know
you
know
kind
of
has
is
almost
an
independent
realm
sure
the
things
are.
Some
aspects
will
be
approved
by
council,
such
as
the
rules
book.
A
Well,
if
you're
going
to
mend
the
rules
that
your
first
rules
committee
meeting
is
august
1st
and
your
council
meeting
is
august
on
august
8th
generally
items
going
to
the
august
8th
meeting
memos
need
to
be
completed
before
the
rules
committee.
Even
it
takes
place,
but
I
guess
we
can
make
an
exception,
but
then
you
can't
form
the.
B
And
it
doesn't
have
to
go
to
rules,
I
mean
it,
it
doesn't
have
to
go
to
the
rules
committee.
It
could
go
straight
to
council.
We
could
have
this
at.
You
know
the
next
council
meeting
we've
done
that
we
just
amended
the
rules
at
the
last
council
meeting
and
it
did
not
go
through
the
rules
committee.
There's.
A
A
special
order
of
business
right.
We
we
do
not
have
time
to
craft
this
to
be
on
the
july
25th
council
meeting.
F
Let's
not
let
bureaucracy
get
in
the
way.
Here
I
mean,
would
it
be
most
expeditious
if
we
just
defined
the
committee,
the
steering
committee
as
community
members
council
members
could
attend
those
meetings,
and
this
is,
I
guess
what
professor
yesterday
proposed,
without
formally
being
a
part
of
a
part
of
that
committee.
B
B
The
steering
committee
was
never
created
by
council
in
the
first
place,
so
we'd
have
to
have
council,
create
the
steering
committee
and
appoint
citizen
members
to
it,
and
so
this
steering
committee
is
going
to
be
something
very
different
from
any
committee
that
we've
had
in
the
past
and
I
think
we're
just
going
to
have
to
make
rules
that
specifically
apply
to
this
pb
steering
committee,
which
is
going
to
be
much
more
independent
than
a
typical
committee
of
the
council.
B
B
F
A
And
staff
was
proposing,
as
outlined
in
an
email
that
matt
warren
sent
out
yesterday,
we
were
proposing
that
we
would
begin
advertising
for
the
committee
to
air
tomorrow
have
a
participatory
budgeting,
kickoff
town
hall
on
august
4th
begin
to
review
the
steering
committee
applications
on
august
22nd
to
be
able
to
bring
approval
of
the
steering
committee
members
to
the
vp
committee
on
september
1st
and
then
seek
approval
of
the
steering
committee
at
the
city
council
on
september
12th
and
then
allowing
the
first
steering
committee
meeting
to
occur
on
september
14th,
at
which
time
we
would
and
the
main
topic
on
that
then
would
be
to
develop
the
rule
book
and
if
it
could
not
be
fully
fleshed
out
on
the
14th,
have
a
follow-up
meeting
on
september
17th.
A
So
that's
what
staff
was
proposing
and
I'm
just
bringing
that
to
your
attention
that
we
didn't.
We
were
unaware
of
a
need
to
modify
the
rules.
We
thought
that
the
rules
were
going
to
stay
as
they
are
and
that's
how
we
kind
of
laid
out
our
tentative
schedule,
which
is
now
up
on
the
screen.
A
B
Yes,
okay,
so
then
it
seems
like
we.
If
we
need
to
amend
the
rules,
we'll
amend
the
rules,
if
not
not,
I
would
say
that
it
maybe
makes
sense
to
amend
the
rules
in
this
case
there
may
need
to
be
a
rules,
amendment
and
so
we'll
we'll
do
that
if
we
need
to.
B
Well,
well,
dave
you
mentioned
it.
There.
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
that
an
amendment's
needed,
but
there's
different
rules
that
apply
if
there,
if
there's
committees
consisting
of
council
members
and
citizens
which
report
their
standing
committee,
chavez
chavis,
seasonal,
chair
elected
by
the
members
of
the
committee.
If
it's
a
board
composed
entirely
citizens
elected
by
elected
to
chairs.
Except
so,
is
it
required
by
the
city
code
to
have
a
chair
appointed
by
the
mayor
with
the
advice
and
consent
of
the
city
council.
A
E
E
And
we
can,
we
can
ask
council
price
about
it,
but
if
I'm
understanding
correctly,
if
that's
why
I
say
this
is.
B
A
new
committee,
I
think
there
just
needs
to
be
a
resolution
that
authorizes
the
steering
committee
and
says
hey
just
like
we
did
with
the
reparations
committee
with
plenty
of
other
committees.
The
committee
itself
will
select
its
chair.
The
committee
chair
should
be
a
resident.
I
think
we
just
need
to.
A
B
Up
a
resolution
authorizing
the
steering
committee
to
do
it
to
do
its
work
right.
It's.
F
F
F
A
G
I
have
a
thought-
maybe
it
would
be
possible
for
the
committee
to
if
it
were
just
a
committee
of
citizens,
although
I
wish
we
would
use
the
term
residence
because
I
thought
one
of
the
thing
about
participatory
budgeting
was
we
didn't
want
to
have.
You
know.
F
G
Barriers
to
participation-
maybe
we
could
just
say
residents
and.
H
Then
maybe
they
could
develop
a
recommendation
to
the
mayor.
B
Similar
to
the
reparations
committee
where
the
committee
itself
appoints
his
chair
or
social
services
committee,
where
the
committee
itself
appoints
the
chair
or
hcdc
committee,
where
the
committee
itself
appoints
the
chair
and
it
doesn't
require
a
mayoral
appointment.
I
think
we
just
again.
I
think
this
is
a
unique
committee
that
has
unique
abilities
and
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
be
directly
choosing
how
to
spend.
B
F
B
B
B
Provides
reparations
reports
directly
to
council.
It's
not
a
subcommittee
reporting
to
a
special
committee.
Our
rules
say
that
on
a
committee
that
reports
directly
to
council,
the
chairperson
should
be
a
council
member,
but
the
ordinance
that
created
reparations
committee
says
that
the
reparations
committee
chair
shall
be
selected
by
the
members
from
among
the
members.
So
you
know
that's
why
it's
not
ignoring
the
rule.
It's
just.
That
is
how
what
was
codified
for
that
committee
right.
F
E
And
I
would
say,
let's
just
make
sure
that
the
resolution
is
cited
in
all
appropriate
documentation,
because
that's
the
difficult
thing
about
we
just
found
a
resolution
from.
D
E
Council
price
did
because
we
didn't
know,
you
know
what
the
nwep
committee
reported
to.
We
thought
it
was
apw,
and
you
may
recall
that
conversation
councilman,
that
we
had
economic
development,
it
actually
reports
directly
to
council
and
at
some
point
we
just
moved
away
from
it.
So
let's
make
sure
that
this
resolution
is
cited
in
all
appropriate
documentation
moving
forward
just
in
case
I
doubt
it'll
ever
be
an
issue,
but
let's
just
make
sure.
E
G
A
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
though,
then
the
documentation,
that's
showing
up
on
the
screen
right
now
that
a
resolution
which
authorizes
the
steering
steering
committee
as
a
new
type
of
committee
with
the
chair
selected
by
this
committee
reports
to
the
bp
committee
and
that's
what
we're
looking
to
have
a
resolution,
then,
okay,
I
can
work
with
legal.
A
B
You,
okay,
professor.
G
A
A
C
Matt,
professor
fine,
oh
before
we
move
on,
can
I
just
clarify.
We
still
have
to
resolve
the
issue
about
staff
participation,
so.
B
A
Perfect
cool
right
and
that's
the
hopefully,
the
bp
manager
and
part-time
person
that
we're
currently
advertising
to
kill
those
positions,
yeah,
yeah
and-
and
so
then
we're
hoping
to
put
out
an
application
to
be
on
this
steering
committee.
Today
or
tomorrow,
then
we
would
also
begin
to
average.
B
A
A
Yes,
we
would
start
looking
at
the
committee.
The
applications,
staff
and
matt
would
start
looking
at
those
and
making
recommendations.
A
Around
august
22nd
a
month
later
said
we
would
have
a
list
to
bring
you
know
more
or
less
staff's
recommendation
as
to
who
should
participate,
we'll
bring
the
full
list,
but
we'll
we'll
put
out
who
make
a
staff
recommendation
to
the
bp
committee,
who
we
think
should
be
on
the
steering
committee
and
try
to
get
bp
committee
approval
on
september
1st
and
then
craft,
that
into
being
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
A
You
know
from
the
bb
committee
and
staff
to
appoint
these
members
to
the
steering
committee
on
september
12th
once
on
september
1st,
once
we,
the
bp
committee,
more
or
less,
approves
who's
on
it.
Then
we
would
advise
those
members
that
a
recommendation
would
be
going
to
the
september
12th
council
meeting
and,
if
approved
at
that
meeting,
we
would
hope
that
they
could
join
us
on
september
14th
for
the
first
steering
committee
meeting,
which
is
to
start
addressing
the
rulebook.
A
So
this
is
a
tentative
schedule.
This
is
we
staff
just
kind
of
looked
at
when
council
meetings
were
when
bp
committee
meetings
were
going
to
be
knowing
that
we
want
to
get
this
moving
as
fast
as
we
can.
We
thought
that
this
would
be
the
appropriate
schedule
and
we're
recommending
it
to
the
bp
committee.
It's
not
written
in
stone
or
anything,
but
it
was
our
suggestion.
A
Then
we
will
start
moving
along
with
the
app
you
know,
getting
advertising
the
application
advertising
that
the
kickoff
meeting
with
you
on
august
4th
we're
proposing
that
to
be
held
in
the
parasol
room
of
the
civic
center.
A
And
then
you
know
after
that
kickoff
meeting
they
still
have
two
and
a
half
weeks
to
enter
their
applications
before
staff
would
begin
reviewing
the
applications
to
try
to
find
the
12
members
to
make
up
the
committee.
B
Thank
you,
I'm
sorry.
I
got
disconnected
for
a
second
there.
I
was
going
to
ask
a
professor
easter
day
how
are
steering
committee
members
typically
selected,
because
I
wonder
if
you
know
what
the
pb
process
yeah,
just
typically,
how
are
the
steering
committee
members
selected.
C
Yeah,
it's
the
the
different
pb
processes
we
looked
at
are
pretty
most
of
them,
don't
say
anything
about
how
it's
selected
the
ones
that
do
say
that
they
abide
by
the
cities
like
bcc
rules
and
the
members
are
selected
by
council.
So
presumably
the
pb
committee
would
decide
what
those
are.
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we're
explicit
about
what
our
criteria
are.
So
last
time
we
talked
about,
you
know
we
want
to
favor
people
who
represent
underrepresented
groups
and
people.
E
C
E
B
Wonder
if
you
know
having
people
simulate
a
petition
or
or
something
you
know
or
you
know,
take
some
kind
of
step
similar
to
running
for
office
would
help
vet.
B
Maybe
that
is
a
a
a
a
way,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
you
know
too
out
of
the
box,
but
I
I
do
think
that
starts
to
get
at
what
we're
looking
for.
C
One
anecdote
that
I
heard
this
was
more
about
the
budget
delegates
rather
than
the
steering
committee,
but
they
were
originally
thinking.
They
would
have
some
kind
of
election
process
for
the
delegates,
but
the
story
was
like
you
know
they
actually
could
accommodate.
Anyone
who
wanted
to
sign
up
to
sign
up
and
the
bigger
challenge
was
participation.
C
It
might
be
different
for
the
steering
community
because
that's
a
smaller
body,
so
I
I
don't
know
what
the
I
mean.
One
thing
we
could
do
is
look
at
how
many
people
apply,
but
then
we're
going
to
be
making
the
application
process
more
complicated,
so
we'd
have
to.
We
would
not
be
able
to
play
out
the
application
today
or
tomorrow,
so
that
would
push
back
the
the
timeline
to
do
that.
G
C
Yeah
matt
has
that's
been
working
on
the
the
description
that'll
go
up
on
the
website.
Maybe
matt
could
talk
more
about
that,
but
it's
a
lot
of
work
like
you
have
to
show
up
so
just
to
to
review.
You
know
you
have
to
draft
the
rule
book,
do
outreach
to
your
communities,
monthly
meetings
and,
in
addition,
you
have
to
plan
so
depending
on
the
rules
that
the
string
committee
comes
up
with,
like
the
vallejo
rules.
Are
you
have
to
attend
and
plan
to
idea,
collection,
events
and
two
voting
events?
C
So
it's
it's
it's
significant
and
already,
when
we've
been
reaching
out
to
stakeholders,
you
know
we
get
that
like.
Well,
I'm
kind
of
busy
it's
a
really
cool
project,
so
I
think
I'm
I'm
nervous
on
the
getting
people
to
sign
up
side,
but
you
know
it's
evanston,
so
I
could
go
the
other
way.
Maybe
we'll
have
a
flood
of
applicants
who
who
want
to
do
this
work.
B
D
The
short
answer
is
yes,
that
there
will
be
some
outline
of
the
work
required
in
the
application.
B
Recommend
the
schedule
looks,
looks
solid
to
me.
B
A
We
will
move
forward
on
that
proposed
schedule.
Then.
A
C
Yeah,
so
right
now
we're
about
two
or
three
months
behind.
If
we,
if
we
can
keep
on
this
schedule,
we'll
only
be
two
weeks
behind,
so
that
puts
us
in
a
really
good
spot
to
do
the
other
phase
as
well
and
yeah.
I
think,
unless
there's
anything
else
about
the
the
application
process
we
want
to
discuss.
I
think
this
is.
This
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
on
the
schedule.
C
C
C
B
I'd
love
to
set
up
a
meeting
I'd.
You
know
the
welcome
is
fine,
but
I'd
love
to
set
up
a
meeting
with
you
and
the
team
before
august
1st
and
and
just
work
with
you
on
it
and.
C
I
think
that's
all
we
had
if
anyone
wants
to
get
involved,
let
us
know,
but
otherwise
we'll
just
set
up
a
meeting
with
chairman
reid.
E
B
Okay,
well
with,
I
think
that
concludes
the
business
before
us
now
I
think
staff
and
the
team
have
all
the
information
that
they
need
or
authorization
from
this
committee
that
they
need
for
now.
So
if
there's
no
further
business
before
us.
B
B
Here,
just
alex
from
the
round
table,
do
you
want
to
give
public
comment
or-
or
I
think.