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A
Yeah
so
calling
this
meeting
to
order
doing
we'll
do
the
roll
call
comes
from
brunusma.
A
Is
here
council
member
Burns
here
is
here
mayor
biss
is
absent,
myself
comes
number
read,
chair,
I
am
here
all
right,
so
let
us
get
the
meeting
under
way.
A
B
One
of
the
they
redid
the
website
and
I
still
need
to
fix
it,
but
the
agenda.
The
link
to
the
participatory
budgeting
committee
goes
to
the
participatory
budgeting
page,
not
the
participatory
budgeting
committee,
page.
C
Also,
not
saying,
can
you
pull
up
the
agenda
Matt,
if
you
don't
mind
if
you
can
share
your
screen.
A
All
right
I
have
the
gender
in
front
of
me
great
okay.
So,
let's
start
off
with
the
approval
of
the
September
29th
participatory
budgeting
committee
meeting
minutes.
I
may
have
a
motion
on
that.
So
moved
moved
by
councilman
seconded
by
myself,
councilmember
Reed,
we'll
vote
on
that
council
member
nissima,
aye
councilmember,
Burns,
myself,
aye,
okay,
wonderful,
the
eyes!
Have
it.
A
I
guess
we'll
move
the
introductions
down
to
the
discussion
portion
so
for
consideration.
We
have
approval
of
participatory
budgeting
marketing
campaign
contract.
A
This
is
a
Contracting
amount
of
24,
pretty
much
25
000.
This
will
be
coming
from
the
funds
that
the
500
000
that
was
allocated
for
running
the
PB
program
and
the
consultant
here
is
green
alley.
Strategies.
A
Is
there
any
discussion
on
that
item
or
actually
may
have
a
motion
for
approval.
A
Seconded
by
council
member
Burns,
okay,
I
I
just
have,
if
there's
no
questions
on
that
I
I
just.
D
A
C
I
sent
you
a
few
Consulting
companies
I
think
there
was
one
out
of
I,
don't
know
the
West
Coast
or
something
I'm
just
curious.
What
what
were,
if
you
get
big
from
other
companies
and
what
was
the
process
of
that
LED
you
to
arrive
at
green
alley,
strategies.
B
Yeah
so
because
the
number
is
below
25
000,
we're
able
to
do
a
request
for
bids
instead
of
a
formal
RFP
process.
So
I
developed
a
scope
of
work
with
you
and
council
member
Reed,
and
then
we
also
work
together
to
develop
a
list
of
potential
potential.
Vendors
and
and
I
did
my
best
to
find
a
good
contact,
email
for
all
the
firms
and
the
vendors
that
we
looked
at
some.
In
some
cases,
that
is
just
needed
not
to
their
info
at
whatever
firm.com
and
so
I
gave
him
I.
B
Had
it
posted
for
two
weeks
and
requested
bids
for
this
work
and
green
alley,
strategies
was
the
only
one
that
submitted
a
proposal.
A
A
B
So
in
total
for
our
Outreach,
which
at
which
includes
this
contract
and
other
printable
materials
that
we
might
want
to
use
as
part
of
the
campaign
and
this
work
that
we're
doing
we
have
budgeted
about
eighty
thousand
dollars.
So
this
will
take
a
portion
of
that,
but
other
portions
of
that
would
be
printable
materials
for
because
that's
not
part
of
this
contract,
so
we'll
have
to
print
anything
and
share
that
any
physical
work.
B
So
this
is
mostly
focusing
on
the
digital
Outreach,
so
the
remaining
portion
of
that
budget
would
be
for
printable
materials
or
other
Outreach.
A
Okay:
okay,
yeah,
that's
helpful.
Okay,
then,
with
that
I
am.
C
B
So
we
have
some
design
items
already
and
this
contract
does
include
with
green
alley.
Strategies
includes
Consulting
costs
and
as
well
as
some
design
work
that
it
will
do
for
us,
so
the
regressive
the
budget
looking
at
doing
mailers
or
door
hangers
postcards
Flyers
things
like
that.
That's
kind
of
the
idea
for
the
rest
of
the
Outreach
budget,
but
it's
not
so
we
have
ideas,
but
we
don't
have
like
a
specific
plan.
Yet.
C
E
D
C
Add
the
ad
spend
would
that
come
out
of
for
the
digital
campaign?
Would
that
come
out
of
the
24
will
come
out
of
the
remaining
amount.
B
In
the
in
the
proposal
they
provided,
they
gave
how
much
they
would
spend
on
that
and.
A
What
did
they
say,
number
of
of
impacts
and
I
think
it
was
I,
don't
want
to
miss
quote,
but
I
remember
reading
that
there
will
be.
You
know,
10
000,
folks,
that
are
hit
a
number
of
times.
I
think
the
whole
university
hit
at
least
once
they
break
down
what.
B
Yep,
so
the
paid
digital
ads
was
ten
thousand
dollars
of
paid
digital
ads.
Five
thousand
dollars
during
the
idea
collection
phase
which
we're
in
now
so
that
will
be
spent
mostly
during
January
and
five
thousand
dollars
of
paid
ads
during
the
get
out.
The
vote
campaign
is
the
language
that
I
used
and
that
they
used
in
their
proposal
as
well.
A
Yeah
and
I
just
do
want
to
note.
I
I
was
excited
to
read
and
hear
about
the
interest
that
this
firm
has
in
this,
which
I
think
will
be
exciting
that
they're,
if
they're
bringing
you
know
some
some
genuine
interest
in
this
project,
so
excited
to
work
with
them.
D
So
question
from
my
fellow
council
members:
have
you
guys
ever
heard
of
this
term
or
worked
with
them
before.
C
A
Okay
with
that
all
those
in
favor
I'm,
sorry
I'll,
do
a
roll
call
vote
council,
member,
nutsma,
aye,
councilmember,
Burns,
myself,
I
and
I.
Don't
think
Mary
business
joined
us
so
with
that
the
motion
passes,
and
that
brings
us
on
to
our
last
order
of
business
and
I'm.
Sorry,
the
fire
department
is
calling
me
okay,
and
the
last
item
is
discussion.
Participatory
budgeting
program
updates
may
have
a
motion
to
discuss
this.
It's.
D
A
Seconded
by
councilman
Burns,
all
right
well
I'll
just
give
a
quick
introduction
and
turn
it
over
to
Matt.
We
have,
since
the
last
time
we've
met.
The
PB
program
is
fully
underway.
We
are
also
staffed
up
now.
I
think
this
is
a
development
in
the
last.
You
know
two
weeks
week
or
two
that
we
are
now
fully
staffed
up
and
so
I'd
love
for
us
to
have
Matt,
introduce
the
new
team
members
and
talk
a
bit
about
what
has
been
going
on
with
PB,
thus
far.
B
Great,
thank
you,
councilmember
read
so
I'll
start
and
then
I'll
pass
it
over
to
Matt
Easter
day
to
give
an
extended
update.
B
So
we've
had
so
far
two
idea:
collection,
assemblies,
one
was
the
pilot
idea,
collection
assembly
that
we
held
that
noise
and
we
had
about
30
people
there
between
volunteers
and
attendees
and
Leadership
committee
members
to
kind
of
get
used
to
the
idea
of
how
to
do
a
idea,
collection
assembly,
and
then
we
held
an
event
on
November
22nd
at
Robert
Crown,
where
we
had
about
40
participants
in
the
idea
collection
assembly,
and
we
also
were
able
to
provide
interpretation
for
Spanish
speaking
folks
who
came,
and
we
also
provided
child
care
for
the
folks
who
came,
and
that
was
that
all
went
well.
B
So
that
was
exciting
to
be
able
to
pull
off
an
event
like
that.
We
also
recently
brought
on
indona
mobile
as
the
participatory
budgeting
field
manager
and
Celia
carlino.
B
As
the
participatory
budgeting
coordinator,
ndona
I'll
give
a
brief
introduction
and
if
you
want
to
say
any
more,
please
do,
but
in
Donna
has
extensive
experience
working
in
Evanston,
maybe
not
literally
working
but
as
part
of
the
civically
engaged
community
in
Evanston
she's
on
committees
and
boards,
with
several
vital
organizations
towards
for
civic
life
and
the
City
of
Evanston,
and
she
is
leading
our
Outreach
she's
been
doing
Outreach
to
several
several
different
organizations
to
make
help
ensure
that
we're
reaching
all
the
people
that
we
need
to
reach
and
she's
increased
our
capacity.
B
Quite
a
lot
and
Celia
carlino
same
for
you
if
I
miss
anything
or
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
add
please
do
Celia
is
the
participatory
budgeting
coordinator.
She
has
been
volunteering
in
the
schools
as
part
of
the
Willard
School
program.
She
helped
plan
a
event
for
his
Hispanic
Heritage
Month,
for
the
schools
for
the
last
couple
years
and
is
bringing
that
experience
with
community
outreach
and
engagement
to
the
team
yeah
so
in
Donna
first
and
then
maybe
silly.
B
If
you
have
anything
that
you
would
like
to
add
or
to
introduce
yourselves,
please
do.
F
Well,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
I
think
council,
member
Reed
and
Burns
I
think
a
little
bit
more
than
council
member
nusma
have
seen
me
around
quite
a
lot
in
town
in
committee
meetings
and
about
town,
so
I'm
just
happy
to
be
here
and
I
think
they.
They
know
me
quite
well
and
I'm
I'm
out
at
meetings
and
events
and
I'm
talking
about
participatory
budgeting
to
the
best
of
my
ability
and
I'll
continue
to
do
so.
C
Put
in
my
window,
but
but
thank
you
for
that
intro
and,
of
course,
we
know
in
Donna.
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
yes
hi,
my
name
is
Celia
carlino
I
I'm,
an
immigrant
I
am
from
Peru
since
I'm
living
here
for
almost
20
years
and
I
become
a
mom
10
years
ago,
and
basically
that
opened
to
me
a
window
to
go
to
different
places.
I
think
that's
the
gift
to
have
a
child.
They
take
us
to
places.
We
will
not
be
without
that.
G
G
A
Thank
you
if
I
can
jump
in
really
quick
I
just
want
to
you
know
one
I'm
just
really
excited
about
this
team
that
that
has
been
put
together
by
by
Matt
and
and
folks
really
excited
that
both
of
you
chose
to
to
get
involved
here.
I'm
glad
that
we
got
two
Evanston
residents,
I'm
glad
that
we
have
a
diverse
team,
Celia
I,
believe
you're
fluent
in
Spanish
and
then
in
Donna
I,
believe
you
speak
French
and
donut.
F
A
And-
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
will
really
help
us.
You
know,
particularly
with
our
immigrant
populations.
We
know
that
we
have
a
a
a
large
immigrant
population
of
Latin
descent,
but
we
also
have
a
large
population
of
African
descent,
and
you
know
one
of
the.
A
And
so
so
we
we
we,
we
need
this
language.
You
know
expertise
here
to
help
us
authentically,
engage
with
those
folks
and
I'm
just
really
excited
to
see
it,
and
thank
you
for
correcting
my
horrible
pronunciation.
Prince
I
think
I
made
that
up
when
I
was
a
teenager
and
have
just
stuck
with
it
ever
since,
okay.
Well,
thank
you.
A
All
right
go
ahead.
Matt,
sorry.
B
Yeah
and
I
was
just
going
to
pass
it
to
Matt
Easter
day,
to
give
a
brief
update
on
kind
of
the
Outreach
that
we're
doing
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
even
further.
H
Okay,
can
everyone
hear
me
and
see
that
screen?
Okay,
cool
and
I'll
be
brief,
but
I
just
want
to
give
some
more
details.
Some
of
the
points
Matt
raised.
So
we
are
now
into
the
idea.
Collection
of
phase,
which
is
super,
exciting
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
capacities
for
Pb,
because
I
think
this
will
be
useful
for
the
PB
committee
to
think
about
how
we're
doing
and
and
gearing
up
both
for
this
process
and
hopefully
processes
in
the
future.
So
I
think.
H
Last
time
we
talked
we
had
the
budget
allocated.
We
had
the
PB
manager
and
I
think
we're
about
four
months
behind
schedule,
but
now,
like
we
said,
we're
now
fully
staffed
up
we're
on
schedule
and
we
have
a
great
team.
So
that
is
super
super
exciting.
H
H
We
have
the
rulebook
developed
and
we
have
a
bunch
of
our
Outreach
guides
and
trainings
developed
now,
so
that's
moving
along
just
how
we
want
it
to
be,
and
we're
really
proud
of
that
work
so
far,
and
then
the
sort
of
third
capacity
which
we
haven't
really
talked
about
is
a
committee
before
is
is
the
community
capacity,
and
this
is
really
the
ability
and
skills
of
our
community
both
to
actually
implement
the
process,
but
also,
most
importantly,
do
Outreach.
H
So
we've
been
working
on
developing,
we
didn't
really
have
like
a
community
partner
when
we
started
their
process,
so
we've
basically
been
inventing
our
own.
So
we
now
have
a
PB
evanston.org
with
30
active
volunteers
and
1200
sign
UPS
the
structure
of
our
group.
H
So
there's
about
between
these
two
groups
about
70
volunteers
and
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
over
the
next.
You
know
two
quarters
or
so
is
really
building
them
up,
so
that
they
can
pull
off
assemblies
and
do
Outreach.
So
far,
we've
done
41
canvassing
events,
which
is
huge.
That's
about
400
work,
hours
of
work
of
canisters
875
of
these
are
face-to-face
sign
up.
H
H
What
we've
been
working
on
for
the
last
couple
months
so,
like
Matt,
said,
we've
done
a
pilot
assembly
and
our
first
Like
official
assembly,
and
it
looks
like
we
have
about
seven
one,
two,
three
four:
five,
six,
seven,
eight
more
planned,
which
is
great.
We
were
only
planning
on
doing
I,
think
five
or
six.
H
So
we're
already
way
above
what
we
were
hoping
to
do
and
that's
because
we
have
excited
volunteers
and
steering
committee
members
who
who
want
to
do
this
in
terms
of
our
metrics
for
idea,
collection,
we're
way
ahead
on
signups,
so
original
goal
by
the
end
of
their
process
was
to
get
1400.
People
signed
up
we're
already
at
12.50.
If
we
continue
at
that
speed
which
we're
hoping
is
an
underestimate
will
be
like
more
than
double.
Where
we
wanted
to
be.
We
were
planning
to
do
six,
five
or
six
assemblies.
H
It
looks
like
we're
signed
up
to
do
nine
by
February
we're
shooting
for
200
attendees
with
just
the
pilot
in
the
First
Assembly
were
already
at
71.
So
we're
way
past
that
number
in
terms
of
our
progress
for
ideas,
we're
hoping
to
collect
60,
we're
already
at
329.
H
and
for
Budget
delegates.
This
is
maybe
the
most
exciting
so
we're
hoping
to
get
30
signed
up
by
the
end
of
or
the
start
of
February
and
we've
already
had
33
people
sign
up,
so
we
might
even
have
too
many
budget
delegates
now.
Those
are
sign
ups.
Those
aren't
like
showing
up,
but
it's
still
great
progress.
So
that's
all
going
really
well
and
one
really
exciting
piece
of
data.
So
there's
this
thing
called
the
net
promoter
score,
which
is
basically
like.
H
Would
you
recommend
this
to
a
friend
and
at
the
Robert
Crown
assembly
or
net
promoter
score
was
78?
Which
is
higher
than
Apple.
It's
like
it's,
it's
crazy!
It's!
It's
really
good
people
are
basically
enjoying
this
and
and
saying
that
is
something
they
want
to
do.
H
Just
FYI
like
some
of
the
popular
idea
categories
that
are
coming
up
are
Healthcare
and
public
health,
of
course,
housing,
infrastructure,
economic
development,
environment
and
education.
So
again,
very
aligned
with
arpa
and
people
seem
to
be
really
taking
the
the
purpose
of
of
this
funding
in
this
process
to
Heart
in
terms
of
improving
Evanston
and
then
just
one
last
thing
I
wanted
to
share-
and
this
is
really
to
councilmember
Burns
point
about
how
we
include
people
at
the
assemblies.
H
I
want
to
see
I'm
going
to
try
to
share
this
two
minute,
video
that
Celia
took
at
the
last
idea,
collection
assembly
and,
if
that
doesn't
work,
I'll
I'll
just
read
it
out
with
some
of
the
quotes
from
it.
But
let
me
see
if
I
can
play
it
for
you.
H
Okay,
let's
see
if
this
works
just
kind
of
give
me
a
thumbs
up.
If
you
can
hear
it.
I
J
K
This
makes
me
feel
very
content
to
be
living
in
this
community.
L
E
K
E
H
So
that's
just
a
little
taste
of
how
people
are
reacting
to
the
events,
but
again
really
great
having
this
like
kind
of
community,
brainstorming
and
inclusive
process
about
how
to
make
Evanston,
better
and
I
think
people
are
seeing
that
so
again,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
supporting
this
and
letting
us
do
this
work.
A
Yeah
well,
thank
you
all
for
doing
it.
I
I
I
really
hope
that,
while
it's
not
cheap
or
free
that
this
becomes
a
model
for
engagement
in
the
city
around
a
whole
host
of
issues,
whether
it
be
the
continuation
of
PB
or
just
you
know
normal
kind
of
run-of-the-mill
things
that
the
city
engages
in
and
so
I
really
appreciate
you
all
taking
this
on
and
really
putting
it
all
into
it
and
looking
forward
to
seeing
even
more
of
what
comes
out
of
this.
G
A
Certainly,
certainly
all
right
with
that
are
there
any
other?
Are
there
any
further
updates?
If,
if
not
all
right?
Well,
then
thank
you.
Everyone,
sorry.
B
A
F
A
F
F
Yet
we
have
one
that's
going
to
be
hosted
by
the
NAACP
in
conjunction
in
conjunction
with
a
couple
of
their
Partners,
where
they're
going
to
have
their
own
idea
collection
and
we're
also
going
to
have
another
one
hosted
by
the
Haitian
congress,
with
the
daughters
of
Haiti,
where
they're
going
to
do
host
an
event
for
the
African
in
the
Caribbean
community
and
we're
just
waiting
for
confirmation
of
their
dates
as
well,
and
we're
also
going
to
have
another
event.
F
That's
going
to
be
hosted
by
led
by
Stacy
moraney,
with
a
group
of
young
people
that
he
works
with
and
we're
waiting
for
confirmation
on
that
date
as
well.
So
we're
still
working
and
we're
just
trying
to
get
it
all
together.
To
give
you
guys,
some
more
updates
coming
soon.
A
C
Thank
you
yeah.
So
my
and
Donna
answer
a
lot
of
my
questions
in
a
way
I
wanted
to
get
clear
on.
You
know
upcoming
events
and
in
the
different
spaces.
We're
creating
so
I
appreciate
that
update
and
just
making
sure
that
that
this
is
such
a
a
wonderful
opportunity
that
people
will
miss
out
on.
If
we
don't
go
to
them
directly
and
explain
it
and
and-
and
it
really
just
explained
it
I
think
once
it's
explained
people
will,
you
know,
find
the
motivation
to
participate,
but
everybody
does
not.
C
You
know:
advertisements
around
participatory
budgeting,
that's
not
something
that
would
draw
their
attention
online
and
so
I
I
appreciate
you
know
the
the
coordinator
and
and
all
the
Outreach
efforts,
because
I
think
that's
going
to
be
necessary
to
get
groups
in
who
wouldn't
typically
interact
with
this
type
of
you
know,
City
City
initiative
so
keep
up
the
good
work
with
all
the
the
direct
Outreach
and
I
guess
so
I
can
understand
Next
Step,
so
the
you
called
something
a
pilot
assembly.
B
I
can
do
I
can
do
that.
So
the
pilot
assembly
was
a
limited
invitation
to
leadership
committee
members
and
a
list
of
PB
Evanston
volunteers
that
had
already
signed
up,
and
the
idea
was
to
test
the
meeting
style
that
has
been
developed
by
our
partners
at
Northwestern
University
to
make
sure
that
it
worked
how
we
hoped
it
did.
So
that
was
the
first
meeting
and
then
that
was
just
different
from
the
next
one.
In
that
it
was
some
more
open
invitation.
B
We
tried
to
get
as
many
people
as
possible,
rather
than
just
trying
to
get
the
leadership
committee
familiar
with
the
method.
C
B
So
one
thing
I
think
we
learned
was
that
the
methodology
works
well.
One
of
the
main
goals
is
to
recruit
budget
delegates,
because
that
is
a
heavy
lift
and
the
net
promoter
number
that
Matt
easterday
has
been
talking
about,
is
kind
of
a
positive
all
right.
B
Obviously
it's
a
positive
sign,
but
it
shows
that
people
are
willing
to
let
and
join
what
they're
doing
and
willing
to
sign
up
to
do
more,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
we
learned
was
that
the
methodology
worked
pretty
well
and
there
were
some
things
that
we
could
fine-tune
for
meetings
to
come
like
having
some
some
way
to
get
people's
attention
back.
For
example,
after
they've
had
small
group
discussions.
C
Does
anybody
else
want
to
share
what
their
what
they
saw?
Maybe
in
the
first
event
and.
G
For
me,
my
experience
was
it.
This
is
something
new
for
me
first
time,
so
that
kind
of
gave
it
to
me
an
idea
how
to
be
a
facilitator
for
the
next
assemblers.
So
for
some
people,
maybe
they
have
some
experience,
but
the
ones
we
don't.
That
was
really
the
big
picture.
How
to
do
the
work
for
the
next
events
coming
up
so
now,
I
have
my
idea,
I
feel
more
confident.
So
that
was
my
personal
experience.
H
Yeah
and
I'll
I'll
add,
after
each
of
these,
we
kind
of
do
like
an
analysis
of
how
it
went,
what
we
wanted
and
and
what
we
can
fix
in
the
next
one.
The
first
one
went
way
better
than
expected
so
that
that
was
a
pleasant
surprise.
Most
of
the
tweaks
were
around
facilitation.
H
So
just
like
you
know,
every
time
we
do
it
we're
looking
at
what
we
can
improve
and
how
we
can
build
that
back
into
the
guides
and
the
training
from
the
Robert
Crown
one
again
went
really
well
the
hardest
part.
There
was
there's
a
lot
of,
especially
as
the
group
size
grows,
there's
a
lot
of
like
little
roles
that
have
to
get
done
and
we
don't
always
know
which
volunteers
are
going
to
show
up
or
not
show
up.
H
All
this
facilitation
and
Improvement
that
we
can
do
each
time,
but
so
far
things
are
yeah
they're
going
really
smoothly.
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
say:
I've
never
worked
on
that
project.
That
sort
of
has
gone
so
well.
So
that's
great.
C
On
the
note
of
facilitation,
I
I
was
I,
think
cc'd
in
an
email
with
Jerry
garl,
with
one
of
the
leadership
committee,
members
I
believe
who
seem
to
be
trying
to
recruit
facilitators.
So
how?
How
are
we
doing
with
finding
facilitators
from
meetings.
H
Yeah
there's
a
couple
groups
that
we
have
so
we
have.
We
have
the
Syrian
leadership
committee,
so
those
are
all
people
that
have
signed
up
to
to
help
with
the
process
and
have
been
through
training.
H
H
We
recommended
that
the
steering
committee
leadership
committee,
each
member
commit
to
facilitating
two
assemblies
and
they
decided
to
do
like
commit
to
one
and
maybe
do
additional
ones,
and
so
it
puts
a
little
bit
more
of
a
burden
on
them
to
do
Outreach
to
people
to
recruit
them
to
meetings
like
who
who've
gone
through
the
trainings,
so
that
one,
what
you're
seeing
is
Jerry
and
Jackson
who
are
running
the
Ecology
Center
one
are
doing
some
of
that
recruiting
so
they're
they're,
going
out
to
both
the
leadership
committee.
H
H
So
we'll
see
how
it
goes,
I
think
the
Outreach
in
in
my
opinion,
is,
is
the
hardest
part
of
the
PB
process,
because
if
people
don't
show
up,
it's
not
going
to
work,
and
so
so
far
so
good,
but
we'll
see
at
the
next
one
if
the
Outreach
they're
doing
is
sufficient
or
if
we
need
to
amp
that
up
and
do
some
more
training.
C
A
Oh
I'll
also
note
you.
A
A
space
unless
you
know
Matt
and
I
meet
just
about
every
Friday,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
join
that
space
and
ask
questions,
that's
also
an
opportunity.
C
I
think
for
some
questions
nah.
Let
me
see
if
I,
what
else
I
have
because
some
of
the
questions
I
really
like
to
hear
from
the
different
perspectives.
A
And
donut
and
I
think
Celia
Celia
will
will
also
be
there
on
on
Friday.
This
Friday
at
least.
C
Okay,
I
guess
the
just.
The
final
question
is:
what
are
we
I
guess
just
a
two-fold
question:
one
is:
are
we
seeing
people
bringing
like
their
own
idea
like
organizational
or
individual
ideas,
or
are
they
in
small
groups
coming
up
with
new
ideas
and
like
how
much
I'm
sure
there's
a
bit
of
both,
but
how
much?
What
percentage
are
we
seeing
roughly
speaking
like
how
much
of
that
is
kind
of
organizational
individual
ideas
or
projects
and
ones
that
are
kind
of
co-created?
H
Oh
yeah,
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
a
good
answer
to
that.
I
think
like
we
haven't
tried
to
quantify
that
because
they
don't
tell
us
where
the
ideas
are
coming
from,
and
so
this
might
be
a
good
one
to
get
everyone's
just
kind
of
impression
on,
but
my
Impressions,
it's
all
over
the
map
like
there's
people
coming
in
who
just
kind
of
you
know
they
live
in
Evanston.
They
don't
have
any
particular
ideas
and
they're
kind
of
making
them
up
as
they
go.
H
There's
people
you
will
see
ideas
that
you
hear
floating
around
organizations
and
and
local
news,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
get
the
sense
that
there's
I
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
like
organizations
coming
in
with
like
a
representative
kind
of
pushing
like
what
you
would
hear
the
organization
say
they
seem
to
be
more
like
you
know,
here's
what
I
experience
or
here's
what
I
care
about,
or
here's
what
I
see
families
in
my
community
caring
about.
H
So
it
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
more
I'd,
say
a
lot
more
kind
of
like
Grassroots
and
individual,
but
I
mean
we've
all
seen
sort
of
different
discussion.
So
maybe
other
people
could
give
their
their
impression
what
they
see
happening
in
the
small
groups.
H
C
And
it
just
so,
it's
clear,
I
think
the
reason
why
I
say
question
is
because
it's
the
less
structure
there
is
to
the
idea
of
the
more
work
it
is
for
the
next
step
to
actually
turn
it
into
a
a
fundable
project,
if
that's
the
right
way
to
put
it
like,
and
and
so
that
leads
me
to
the
final
question,
which
is
just
what
is
that
next
phase
like
after
we
get
all
of
these
ideas,
most
of
which
may
not
have
even
that
much
structure?
H
Question
so
at
this
phase
it's
kind
of
two
goals,
the
the
ideas
don't
have
to
be
very
well
developed,
like
you'll,
see
in
the
list
which
will
share
once
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
process,
and
you
can
look
at
it
now.
If
you
want
there's
everything
from
kind
of
like
a
really
clear
project
idea
to
like
a
vague
need
and
everything
in
between,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do.
H
H
So
we
want
30
people
to
sign
up
to
participate
from
from
beginning
of
February
to
about
the
start
of
summer
to
basically
be
doing
the
work
of
of
converting
them
and
we're
so
far
way
ahead
on
our
our
signups
for
a
budget
delegate.
So
that's
great
and
it's
not
and
and
then
get
kind
of
the
big
categories
of
ideas
so
that
the
Syrian
committee
can
decide
how
to
break
up
the
budget
delegates
in
the
issue
committees.
H
So
in
terms
of
like
idea,
development,
it's
okay,
if
they're
pretty
ill-formed
at
this
point,
because
we
have
a
good
amount
of
time
for
the
budget,
delegates
to
flush
them
out
and
then
work
with
staff
and
and
do
all
the
vetting
and
I
can
I'm
happy
to
talk
more
about
the
steps
of
that.
But
I.
Don't
we're
not
super
concerned
if,
if
they
have
ill-formed
ideas
at
this
point,
that's
okay.
C
Yeah
not
the
final
thought
is
just
that
participation
making
sure
we
have
kind
of
Representative
participation
among
the
budget.
Delegates
is
even
more
important
when
the
ideas
aren't
as
developed,
because
then
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
do
and
absolutely
and
then
that's
kind
of
where
the,
where
the
kind
of
power
or
influence
lies
and
really
shaping,
which
projects
kind
of
get.
What
what
ideas
turn
into
projects
that
have
a
shot
at
being
funded.
C
So,
let's
make
sure
we
do
what
we
can
to
get
get
some
a
good
cross-section
of
evidence
involved
in
that
and
and
then
yeah
again
brought
this
up,
because
in
other
PB
that
I
followed
oftentimes.
The
budget
delegates
are
like
taking
like
more
more
defined
projects
and
just
figuring
out
what
the
cost
would
be
right,
as
opposed
to
actually
shaping
the
project
itself,
which
I'm
sure
that's
been
included
in
some
PB
efforts.
But
that
is
a
difference
and
I.
H
C
That's
all
thank
you,
as
we
share.
A
Okay,
council
member
nissima
I
see
that.
D
You
have
yeah
I,
think
thank
you.
Mr
chair
and
picking
up
what
councilmember
burns
was
saying
about
a
diverse
cross-section
of
Evanston
I
am
wondering
how
many
folks
at
the
sessions
we've
had
so
far
have
been
folks
that
are
new
to
the
process
and
not
just
the
familiar
faces
that
that
we
see
at
City
at
public
comment.
D
A
That
might
be
hard
for
this
group
to
identify
I
mean.
Maybe
folks
can,
if
you
happen
to
just
sit
around
and
watch
Council
meetings
as.
C
H
A
I
I
do
want
to,
but
from
the
I've
been
to
one
eventually,
the
leadership
event
and
I
will
say
that
at
that
event,
I
did
see
quite
a
few
new
faces
that
that
aren't
typically
folks
who
are
involved,
maybe
folks,
who
are
kind
of
on
the
periphery
and
show
up
every
so
often
the
council
there's
a
term
that
goes
around.
A
You
know
the
same
30
people,
it
doesn't
feel
like
it's,
maybe
the
same
periphery
of
100
or
so
people
that
are
kind
of
getting
mixed
in
to
this
and
I.
Think
as
we
as
the
group
expands
out
and
there's
more
and
more,
you
know
almost
Affinity,
like
events
we'll
see
even
more
folks,
jumping
in.
D
Yeah
so
I
don't
know
if
you're
doing
some
data
collection
on
folks.
Maybe
the
question
is:
how
many
times
have
you
spoken
in
public
comment
over
the
last
year
or
something
like
that.
D
M
I
can
just
very
quickly.
We
do
ask
one
question
about
prior
Civic
engagement,
as
defined
by
in
the
past
12
months.
Have
you
worked
with
other
people
in
your
neighborhood
to
fix
a
problem
or
improve
a
condition
in
your
community,
not
including
work
you
may
have
done
related
to
PB
and
for
that
question
from
the
Robert
Crown
idea?
M
Collection
event,
it
was
roughly
half
that
had
said
yes
to
that
question,
but
so
that's
for
that
past
one,
but
we
I
don't
think
we
ask
about
attending
previous
Council
meetings
or
anything
to
that
degree.
Yeah.
H
D
H
We
also
do
have
the
list
of
of
each
attendee,
so
I
don't
know
that
that
I
could
code
it.
But
if
you
want
to
look
for
The
Usual
Suspects,
it
would
be
very
quick
for
you
to
to
determine
my
sense
is
that
so
the
leadership
committee
probably
had
the
highest
amount
of
people
you
might
see.
At
a
council
meeting,
the
pilot
assembly
had
fewer
and
the
Robert
Crown
had
like
far
fewer
so
I,
at
least
from
the
you
know.
Few
people
I
recognize
like
it's.
H
It
seems
like
we're
getting
a
pretty
diverse
or
a
new
a
set
of
people
in
Evanston
who
are
not
usually
showing
up
to
Council
meetings.
Good.
A
Sorry
I
couldn't
unmute
because
I
have
a
call
coming
in
so
I
see
no
further
hands.
So
with
that,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
do
you
see
a
hand
council,
member
Burns.
C
Yeah,
just
what
just
quick
thing
to
follow
up
on
what
councilman
news
she
said:
I
think
and
I'll
I'll.
You
know
work
with
Matt
on
this
at
the
Friday
meeting
at
councilman
we
talked
about,
but
I
think
we
definitely
should
just
get
it
in
data
I
like
that.
First
question
that
that
was
just
mentioned.
C
I
think
that's
a
good
one
and
we
might
be
able
to
add,
maybe
one
other,
but
I
think
we
should
understand
it
not
necessarily
scanning
a
list,
but
just
the
question
that
we
ask
at
all
the
different
events
which
again
maybe
it's
a
question
not
just
about
public
comment,
but
just
have
you
ever
attended
a
similar.
You
know
community
meeting
or
city
meeting,
especially
if
you
you
know
frequent,
do
you
you
know?
C
Well,
we
can
figure
out
exactly
what
how
to
how
to
message
it,
but
but
I
appreciate
that
first
question
that
we
are
asking-
and
that's
all
true
thank
you.
A
All
right
with
that,
seeing
no
further
business
before
so
no
further
hands
raised
for
comment
and
I'm,
giving
a
pause
to
make
sure
that's
the
case.
All
right
with
that
I
call
this
meeting
adjourn.
Thank
you
all
for
attending
and
we'll
see
each
other
likely
in
a
month
or
two
or
whenever
it's
appropriate
for
this
committee
to
come
back
together.
Happy.